Award-Winning Animated Short: Goutte d’Or

“Rich in piratical atmosphere”
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Christophe Peladan’s amazing and beautiful stop motion film from 2013 - now available for free!
A coproduction between Happy Flyfish Production ApS (Denmark) and ExFool’s Production (France).

Watch the trailer here
See tons of production stills here: http://www.gouttedor.com/gallery/

Here’s what people said about the film:
“IT’S A MASTERPIECE!”
Børge Ring (Oscar® winning film director)

“GOUTTE D’OR IS AN EXQUISITELY ANIMATED FILM - DARING, AMBITIOUS AND RICH IN PIRATICAL ATMOSPHERE - AND I SHOULD KNOW!”
Peter Lord (Oscar® nominated director for “Pirats!”)

“SIMPLY AMAZING AND UNIQUE AND BOLD AND LAVISH AND WONDERFUL!”
Barry Purves (Oscar® nominated film director)

“A FILM THAT CARESSES THE EYE IN A WAY THAT SEEMS ALMOST OVERWHELMING!”
Animation Jury at Odense Intl’ Film Festival, 2013

Produced with the support from The Animation Workshop, The West Danish Film Fund, The Film Workshop, Open Workshop, The Danish Animation Society ANIS, Viborg Council and more.

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409 comments
1
Belafon  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:03:43pm

As I mentioned in the previous thread, the About link at the top doesn’t go anywhere.

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A Cranky One  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:06:47pm

My internet controlled devices keep turning on and off. Who is messing with the “About” button?

Nationwide Light Switch humor garage door

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Lidane  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:11:59pm
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bratwurst  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:13:55pm
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Dark_Falcon  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:19:23pm
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Lidane  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:19:37pm

Easiest $5,000 ever earned:

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:25:43pm
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jaunte  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:31:33pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

That Jesus parts his head in the middle.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:37:13pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

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To appreciate Ben Carson’s ego, imagine him giving this semi-famous Alec Baldwin monologue (If you don’t want to watch the whole thing, skip to 1:24 for the critical bit):

Malice - Baldwin - “I am God”

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John Vreeland  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:38:11pm

Ben Carson refused full scholarship to SEAL Team 6

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Lidane  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:43:49pm

ROFL:

The last Harry Potter book came out in 2007. The film series ended in 2011. Yet somehow, God is still pissed off about it.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:47:14pm

re: #11 Lidane

ROFL:

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The last Harry Potter book came out in 2007. The film series ended in 2011. Yet somehow, God is still pissed off about it.

J.K. Rowling has been in the news lately, so the pastor decided it was time to dust off that old fan-favorite “God Hates Harry Potter!!1”. To everyone except the choir he was preaching to he looks like a dingbat.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:52:03pm

re: #11 Lidane

1. That’s the least of Kevin Swanson’s crazy. It’s embarrassing that any politician would get on a stage with him.

2. The “Harry Potter is of the devil” thing has never gone away in evangelical circles. The Satanic Panic never ended, and they’re still repeating debunked stuff from Warnke and “Michelle Remembers.”

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Jack Burton  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:55:19pm

re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea

1. That’s the least of Kevin Swanson’s crazy. It’s embarrassing that any politician would get on a stage with him.

2. The “Harry Potter is of the devil” thing has never gone away in evangelical circles. The Satanic Panic never ended, and they’re still repeating debunked stuff from Warnke and “Michelle Remembers.”

You mean they are still howling about already (and easily) debunked bullshit to people with weapons-grade confirmation bias? SHOCKED! /

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:59:25pm

SNL with Donald Trump is pretty awful.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 7, 2015 • 9:59:49pm

re: #10 John Vreeland

NBC News’ Brian Williams contributed reporting.

ROFL

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Timothy Watson  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:00:38pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

J.K. Rowling has been in the news lately, so the pastor decided it was time to dust off that old fan-favorite “God Hates Harry Potter!!1”. To everyone except the choir he was preaching to he looks like a dingbat.

Conservative memes never died, they just get stupider.

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Lidane  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:02:29pm

re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea

1. That’s the least of Kevin Swanson’s crazy. It’s embarrassing that any politician would get on a stage with him.

2. The “Harry Potter is of the devil” thing has never gone away in evangelical circles. The Satanic Panic never ended, and they’re still repeating debunked stuff from Warnke and “Michelle Remembers.”

RWW has a whole greatest hits of his latest unhinged nonsense, such as how he’d spread cow shit on his body if his son got gay married, and how gays shouldn’t be killed until they’ve had time to repent.

There’s also a bonus of Huckabee promising to ignore Obergefell and Roe , Ted Cruz saying that any POTUS who doesn’t fear God or start his day on his knees is unfit to lead and Jindal babbling about how no earthly court can change marriage.

These people are deranged. And many of them vote.

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prairiefire  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:04:47pm

re: #8 jaunte

I’m all for a Jesus of multi colors.

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prairiefire  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:08:35pm

Hard to imagine the next presidential election happens in under a year!

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Cheechako  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:09:47pm

re: #20 prairiefire

Hard to imagine the next presidential election happens in under a year!

And it’s going to be a long, long, long year.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:14:26pm

re: #19 prairiefire

I’m all for a Jesus of multi colors.

Joseph had that technicolor dreamcoat. Close enough?

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:16:09pm

re: #20 prairiefire

Hard to imagine the next presidential election happens in under a year!

Be sure to actually vote!

SouthPark ”Vote or Die” HD Clip

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:48:20pm

Fuck you, dude. You’re tweeting “regret” because now people know what a fucking monster you are, not because you actually regret beating the shit out of your girlfriend.

One of the big reasons I don’t watch American football anymore, it seems to be populated by horrible people.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:52:17pm

Dallas mothertrucking Cowboys. ‘nuff said.

I used to joke that “They must have all been paroled at the same time!” when a game was on. Whole counties in this state have a sports version of Stockholm Syndrome. I really Don’t Get It.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:53:20pm

re: #24 teleskiguy

And every week during autumn I read another story of a teenage football player dying of injuries sustained on the gridiron.

I sincerely hope the NFL goes out of business in my lifetime.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:55:36pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

And every week during autumn I read another story of a teenage football player dying of injuries sustained on the gridiron.

I sincerely hope the NFL goes out of business in my lifetime.

Miracles have been known to happen, but I’d be shocked if this ever did. Too much money wrapped up in football for it to go away anytime soon.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:57:13pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

I’m fighting a losing battle against the superego when it comes to American football.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2015 • 10:58:38pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

Yet Another High School Football Player Dies As Death Total Piles Up
Luke Schemm was just 17 years old.

A 17-year-old high school football player from Sharon Springs, Kansas, died on Wednesday after collapsing on the field during a game Tuesday night.

This is at least the eighth reported high school football death since September.

Luke Schemm of Wallace County High School collapsed soon after scoring on a two-point conversion. Schemm was unresponsive after collapsing. According to CBS affiliate KWCH, the teen was eventually airlifted to Denver.

In a Facebook status Wednesday morning, his father David Schemm informed people of his son’s death. Schemm mentioned that Luke had suffered trauma to his brain, “causing it to swell an[d] shut off blood flow to the brain.”

After the news of his death, Wallace County Athletics’ Twitter account tweeted out, “We’ll miss you, Luke,” with the picture of Schemm in his football uniform.

The Kansas State High School Activities Association told The Wichita Eagle that game officials said they didn’t see Schemm “sustain any head or neck contact during the game.”

The dangers high school football players face have received increased national attention as a result of the string of football-related deaths this year. As The Huffington Post previously reported, the number of high school football-related deaths has remained consistent over the past 35 years despite advancements in our understanding of brain trauma and player safety.

America, FUCK YEAH!

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:00:34pm

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey man, I’m glad to know you. Though it is tangential internet stuff, I’m still glad to know you.

lWUUhWx6Ca03ePQbmEa9iWN1Ut9MVIH7h0eBkVylN1ipr9Ss216uXELgq8gWfu2vJzOcG9U5OCrSXInOHrqRj2vJn7W4Pidzr7sJdbbGy4I=

You’re so cool in my book.

:-D

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:07:07pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

Hey man, I’m glad to know you. Though it is tangential internet stuff, I’m still glad to know you.

[Embedded content]

You’re so cool in my book.

:-D

I appreciate that. I loved Colorado when I visited a few years ago. If was moving to another state it would be high on the list. All that gorgeous rocky mountain hiking and mountain biking…maybe someday.

Back to the football thing, here’s an interesting quote that I found in a kansas.com story about the same player mentioned above:

Alan Schuckman, head coach at Bishop Carroll High School, said football builds character that cannot be taught in a classroom.

“Football is such a great game, and it brings so much to the table,” he said. “I’d hate to see it go away.”

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Dr. Matt  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:11:55pm

Chuck is even more unhinged than usual. Full moon tonight?

batshit crazy #chuckcjohnson @shaunking
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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:15:35pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

Football. Sheesh! One of my very longtime friends (known each other since before grade school) is all about that line of thinking, “Football builds character” and all that crap. He pushes his two sons to play football above all other things in their lives, at least as far as I can see being an outside observer. His sons also play baseball, ski and mountain bike, but football is the most important of all those.

My friend I speak of is a widowed father, the kids’ mom died last summer.

I had a couple of discussions with my friend this summer about football over burgers and beers and I told him how I feel. “You’re such a hippy, Charlie.”

My friend I speak of likes Donald Trump, BTW. Doesn’t say if he’ll vote for him, but he ain’t voting for anything that had a D next to it, I’ll tell you that.

He thinks football is the greatest. This is a person I’ve gone skiing with since we were little kids. Boggles my mind.

BTW, I think skiing is the greatest.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:23:25pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

What a horrible human. That’s seriously fucked up.

J. Edgar Hoover told MLK to kill himself, too. Not comparing Shaun King to MLK or UpChuck to Hoover, just noticing similar behavior.

UpChuck, like his pal weev, have nothing but hate in their hearts. Rotten horrible humans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:24:47pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

There are plenty of non contact physical sports that can “build character”. I enjoy martial arts. I don’t actively compete or try to beat the crap out of anyone, but I enjoy using the techniques for discipline and fitness.

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Jenner7  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:30:56pm

See no evil, Hear no evil with Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor.

Video

Nighty night.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:32:28pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

In high school I lettered in soccer and alpine skiing (yes, the public high school I attended has a ski team, both Nordic and Alpine, I’m a lucky guy) all four years. The soccer team definitely built character, by our senior year we were hard partyin’ crazies that listened to a lot of loud music (keep in mind I went to a very small school, graduating class of 85 or so 15 years ago) that won the state championship two years in a row. I’m still close friends with all those fuckers on the soccer team, always smiles all around whenever I see any of them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:46:29pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

In high school I lettered in soccer and alpine skiing (yes, the public high school I attended has a ski team, both Nordic and Alpine, I’m a lucky guy) all four years. The soccer team definitely built character, by our senior year we were hard partyin’ crazies that listened to a lot of loud music (keep in mind I went to a very small school, graduating class of 85 or so 15 years ago) that won the state championship two years in a row. I’m still close friends with all those fuckers on the soccer team, always smiles all around whenever I see any of them.

I always used to envy the football players in high school because it seemed like they had everything. Now when I look at how many have gone absolutely nowhere in their lives, I see how wrong I was.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2015 • 11:51:00pm

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Believe me, brother, we could go back and forth about football from here to perdition.

I know it’s here to stay, but I’ve done my part. Haven’t seen any football on TV in two years now!

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:03:38am

This is messed up. Milo-grade bullshit.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:11:39am

live blogging donald trump on snl:

the c++ 11 tutorial was more interesting

what’s up w sia she wont show her face and there’s a mime on the stage w her otherwise the music is rather conventional

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:30:27am

re: #41 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

live blogging donald trump on snl:

the c++ 11 tutorial was more interesting

what’s up w sia she wont show her face and there’s a mime on the stage w her otherwise the music is rather conventional

That’s Sia’s schtick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:50:00am

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

Apparently, BenCarson found Jesus in a bathhouse

He looks a lot like Buddy Jesus (TM) from the movie Dogma

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:53:23am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He looks a lot like Buddy Jesus (TM) from the movie Dogma

He looks like Klingon Jesus to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:53:38am

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

I always used to envy the football players in high school because it seemed like they had everything. Now when I look at how many have gone absolutely nowhere in their lives, I see how wrong I was.

And a lot of those bombshell cheerleader girlfriends are now dumpy overweight (ex-) wives.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:54:16am

So, the Navy test-fired a rocket last night. And what’s the first thing I see about this?

OMG ITZ A UFO!!

*sigh*

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:55:40am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

So, the Navy test-fired a rocket last night. And what’s the first thing I see about this?

OMG ITZ A UFO!!

*sigh*

Because that is how we are now trained to think: rule out the plausible and jump right to the sensationalist.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:06:10am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because that is how we are now trained to think: rule out the plausible and jump right to the sensationalist.

A person I know swears up and down that the 1908 Tunguska Event was a UFO exploding in the upper atmosphere. That’s her story and she’s sticking to it and absolutely nothing will convince her otherwise.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:07:51am

How about some music?

Lianne La Havas - Au Cinema (Live at Glastonbury)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:08:39am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

A person I know swears up and down that the 1908 Tunguska Event was a UFO exploding in the upper atmosphere. That’s her story and she’s sticking to it and absolutely nothing will convince her otherwise.

Erich von Däniken and dozens of other authors have made a career of selling sensationalist books to people like that.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:11:49am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Erich von Däniken and dozens of other authors have made a career of selling sensationalist books to people like that.

Heh…..yeah, she has a few of those books in her library as well as a well-worn VHS copy of Target…Earth?, a 1980 flick starring Victor Buono. I’ve seen it. Meh - I wasn’t impressed.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:13:25am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Erich von Däniken and dozens of other authors have made a career of selling sensationalist books to people like that.

And it’s a very lucrative business.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:15:26am

re: #52 Nyet

And it’s a very lucrative business.

Hell, some TV networks have allowed themselves to turn into woowoo broadcasting platforms.

*coughHistoryChannelcough*

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:18:31am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

Didn’t they call it “Hitler Channel”? If so, it could easily multitask by filming Ernst Zündel’s books about Nazi UFOs in the Antarctic./

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:19:41am

re: #54 Nyet

Didn’t they call it “Hitler Channel”? If so, it could easily multitask by filming Ernst Zündel’s books about Nazi UFOs in the Antarctic./

You Just gave away the plot to the sequel to Iron Sky!

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:22:17am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

Hell, some TV networks have allowed themselves to turn into woowoo broadcasting platforms.

*coughHistoryChannelcough*

I’m old enough to remember when TLC was The Learning Channel and I remember shows like The Human Animal on TLC that described on TV in great detail how human bodies work.

I was a child in those days. There were a couple of episodes that mom and dad wouldn’t let my younger sister and I watch because it was rather explicit with the sex stuff.

You actually learned stuff sometimes when you watched TLC. Back in the 90s. Now? Duggar/DuckDynasty/PawnWars or, fuck. I don’t know. It’s all trash to me.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:24:14am

re: #54 Nyet

Didn’t they call it “Hitler Channel”? If so, it could easily multitask by filming Ernst Zündel’s books about Nazi UFOs in the Antarctic./

Yeah; I remember that referenced in MST3K once as well, where they called the History Channel the “Hitler Channel”. “All Hitler, all the time!” or something to that effect.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:53:38am

BBL

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:19:39am

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Chuck is even more unhinged than usual. Full moon tonight?

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Chuck likes to gloat when something tangentially related to his previous “exposés” turns out to somewhat correct. He’s been boasting about how he “took out” Menendez and Brian Williams, and now he’ll boast that Shaun King is his next success story.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:22:17am

re: #59 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This sort of reminds me of how the fall of the Berlin wall and then of USSR is credited to Reagan by the wingnuts.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:23:22am

re: #49 teleskiguy

How about some music?

[Embedded content]

Video

Of Adele and Lianne, both UK singers, I prefer Lianne.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:25:28am

re: #60 Nyet

This sort of reminds me of how the fall of the Berlin wall and then of USSR is credited to Reagan by the wingnuts.

Exactly! Ronnie brought down the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtain just by uttering the words, “Mr Gorbachev, take down this wall!” It was just like Joshua and the walls of Jericho!

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:26:17am

re: #62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It was just like Joshua and the walls of Jericho!

It was: never happened.

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Lancelot Link  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:28:13am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Erich von Däniken and dozens of other authors have made a career of selling sensationalist books to people like that.

I used to be VERY interested in all that kind of thing; in my defense, I was 13 and it was the 70s.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:28:44am

re: #63 Nyet

It was: never happened.

But, but … my holy book says it did! He had a horn and it was loud, and boom! The walls came down.

I bet you never knew Reagan played trumpet.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:29:46am

re: #64 Lancelot Link

I used to be VERY interested in all that kind of thing; in my defense, I was 13 and it was the 70s.

Same here. I read von Daniken and concluded it was mediocre science fiction.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:41:40am

re: #62 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Exactly! Ronnie brought down the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtain just by uttering the words, “Mr Gorbachev, take down this wall!” It was just like Joshua and the walls of JerichoJoseph building the pyramids!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:41:53am

British pre-teen searches for “free Kindle books for teenagers” on Amazon, and the first book in the list is sexually explicit material. Her mom is upset.

bbc.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:42:22am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And filling them with grain!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:43:45am

re: #64 Lancelot Link

I used to be VERY interested in all that kind of thing; in my defense, I was 13 and it was the 70s.

I also had the lot. Then I recall reading a book on the Bermuda Triangle that just consisted of a description of planes and ships lost in the area, and the last chapter was an interview in which the author expresses his opinion that they had all been abducted by UFO’s…it started to dawn on me that it was just another racket.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:46:18am

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I tried it just now myself. Searching “free kindle books for teenagers”: #7 in the list was “MILF GUIDANCE - 5 Stories of Beautiful Older Women and a Lifetime of Naughty Experience… Younger Lovers - Mature.” #9 was “FORBIDDEN FUN - 10 Tales of Filthy Stories! Taboo Brat Encounters… Naughty Older Men, Untouched Younger Women.”

So, yeah, Amazon needs to work on its search engine indexing and merchandise categories.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:48:46am

re: #71 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Taboo Brat Encounters

A story about a Muslim/Jewish guy eating a pork bratwurst?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:49:41am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A story about a Muslim/Jewish guy eating a pork bratwurst?

That’s story #5.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:50:46am

re: #30 teleskiguy

Hey man, I’m glad to know you. Though it is tangential internet stuff, I’m still glad to know you.

[Embedded content]

You’re so cool in my book.

:-D

Canadians are like jellyfish—can’t keep them away from the Gulf coast.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:51:08am

re: #73 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

That’s story #5.

#6 being Kosher Cheerleaders?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:52:05am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

#6 being Kosher Cheerleaders?

Deborah Does Bacon

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:53:10am

re: #68 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

British pre-teen searches for “free Kindle books for teenagers” on Amazon, and the first book in the list is sexually explicit material. Her mom is upset.

bbc.com

I’m shocked there’s porn on the internet!/
Youtube Video

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:57:47am

re: #77 Nyet

I’m shocked there’s porn on the internet!/
[Embedded content]

As the article notes, Amazon recommends its site for 18+ users.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:59:18am

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

As the article notes, Amazon recommends its site for 18+ users.

That’ll stop them dead in their tracks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 2:59:59am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

That’ll stop them dead in their tracks.

Fer sure.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:01:26am

To be frank, any mom who gives her 12-year-old free access to the Internet should be surprised if the kid doesn’t turn up porn.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:01:34am

re: #76 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Deborah Does Bacon

American Pork Pie

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:02:40am

re: #80 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Fer sure.

The solution is to limit porn to CDs with DRM tracks and only let the underaged use Windows machines.

Microsoft motherfuckers.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:03:13am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

American Pork Pie

I Am Curious—Treif.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:05:10am

re: #83 Decatur Deb

The solution is to limit porn to CDs with DRM tracks and only let the underaged use Windows machines.

Microsoft motherfuckers.

I had a Windows machine whose pre-installed Windows Media Player would not play mp3s. “Licensing issues,” supposedly.

Give me a break.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:06:08am

Yeah, about that news story. You know how search engines tailor the new search results based on the old ones, i.e. your preferences? The Mom didn’t tell the whole story.

///

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:08:14am

re: #86 Nyet

Yeah, about that news story. You know how search engines tailor the new search results based on the old ones, i.e. your preferences? The Mom didn’t tell the whole story.

///

Ah. that would explain all my opportunities to meet nice Asian goats that like older men.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:10:04am

re: #86 Nyet

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Oh, of course. Someone in her family is searching for the naughty stuff if the first hit is sexually explicit.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:12:18am

Now seriously: the issue is real enough, but an attempt to make it into some sort of a moral panic on part of DM and some others is only too expected.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:13:37am

re: #89 Nyet

Now seriously: the issue is real enough, but an attempt to make it into some sort of a moral panic on part of DM and some others is only too expected.

It’s in the UK, so probably the media coverage in the USA will be minimal.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:15:18am

re: #90 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Grandmother Martha Welter, from Chicago, Illinois, told NBC she first raised the issue in November, after discovering the disturbing results while browsing the website for a book to give to her 12-year-old granddaughter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:15:31am

re: #88 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, of course. Someone in her family is searching for the naughty stuff if the first hit is sexually explicit.

Fer chrissakes, don’t they know anonymous search mode?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:16:23am

re: #88 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh, of course. Someone in her family is searching for the naughty stuff if the first hit is sexually explicit.

Could call that a likelihood, but I don’t know enough about search and advertising algorithms to say for sure. I have been getting ads for Trump swag on LGF.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:18:27am

re: #91 Nyet

That was from 2013, though. The latest one is in the UK.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:18:59am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Fer chrissakes, don’t they know anonymous search mode?

It’s Amazon, Jake.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:19:44am

re: #91 Nyet

Brain fart: followed a link in the article to an older story that’s basically just the same one but happened a few years ago. My bad.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:21:28am

re: #93 Decatur Deb

Could call that a likelihood, but I don’t know enough about search and advertising algorithms to say for sure. I have been getting ads for Trump swag on LGF.

Algorithms use the cookies on your computer to predict hits most likely to appeal to you. If you’ve been reading articles about The Donald, then you’ll see ads about Trump.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:22:59am

re: #96 Nyet

Brain fart: followed a link in the article to an older story that’s basically just the same one but happened a few years ago. My bad.

Well, it could be worse. Those 12-year-olds could have turned up books about evolution or same-sex marriage, and then the shit would have really hit the fan.
//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:23:04am

re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Algorithms use the cookies on your computer to predict hits most likely to appeal to you. If you’ve been reading articles about The Donald, then you’ll see ads about Trump.

And LGF is inexorably linked to Anders Breivik because algorithms do not understand nuance.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:24:13am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And LGF is inexorably linked to Anders Breivik because algorithms do not understand nuance.

“The algorithm consistently finds Jesus.”

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:25:05am

re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Algorithms use the cookies on your computer to predict hits most likely to appeal to you. If you’ve been reading articles about The Donald, then you’ll see ads about Trump.

Yes and no. Websites can’t access cookies deposited by other websites (which would otherwise cause some pretty huge privacy violations), but systems like Google remember what you’ve searched for in those particular systems.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:25:49am

They say it’s a small world, but you never really realize just how small sometimes. Early this morning, my weekly geni.com (family tree service) update notified me that i’m related to none other than the late great Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin. After recovering from the shock, i started a more detailed search - what family connection did we miss before?
Moments ago, the detailed analysis came in:

Huh?

If anyone’s able to figure out the precise shape of that seemingly gnarly familial tree branch, please let me know…

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:27:33am

re: #101 Nyet

Yes and no. Websites can’t access cookies deposited by other websites (which would otherwise cause some pretty huge privacy violations), but systems like Google remember what you’ve searched for in those particular systems.

Plus advertising systems are everywhere, and they gather this info too.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:28:20am

re: #101 Nyet

Yes and no. Websites can’t access cookies deposited by other websites (which would otherwise cause some pretty huge privacy violations), but systems like Google remember what you’ve searched for in those particular systems.

Apparently sources like Facebook offer some analytics that are of interest to political microtargeting. Not sure I want to go too far down that road.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:29:46am

re: #102 Archangelus

A friend of a wife’s second cousin twice removed’s grandfather’s neighbor’s dog.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:30:46am

re: #102 Archangelus

They say it’s a small world, but you never really realize just how small sometimes. Early this morning, my weekly geni.com (family tree service) update notified me that i’m related to none other than the late great Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin. After recovering from the shock, i started a more detailed search - what family connection did we miss before?
Moments ago, the detailed analysis came in:

[Embedded content]

If anyone’s able to figure out the precise shape of that seemingly gnarly familial tree branch, please let me know…

Short version. If he were alive, you could marry him.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:32:51am

Along the same lines, I’m a distant cousin of Richard M. Nixon. We have a common Quaker ancestor somewhere in the 18th century.

Woo-hoo!

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:32:51am

re: #85 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I had a Windows machine whose pre-installed Windows Media Player would not play mp3s. “Licensing issues,” supposedly.

Give me a break.

A real text from MS’s site:

This issue occurs because the Windows Media DRM system maintains information based on the hardware configuration of the computer. If certain components are changed, Windows Media DRM may not work because it may view the change as an unauthorized attempt to move protected content to another computer.

This issue may occur if you have made one or more of the following changes to your computer hardware:
You recently changed hardware components, such as the CPU or the motherboard.
You modified any one of your computer’s Basic Input/Output System (BIOS) settings that affect hardware components, such as disabling CPU hyper-threading.
You moved the hard disk drive from one computer to another computer.

Yeah, that will help to improve my already nihilist views about copyright.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:34:26am

re: #107 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Along the same lines, I’m a distant cousin of Richard M. Nixon. We have a common Quaker ancestor somewhere in the 18th century.

Woo-hoo!

We’re all literal cousins, whether by evolution or creation.

Everything we eat is also our literal cousin.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:34:50am

re: #102 Archangelus

They say it’s a small world, but you never really realize just how small sometimes. Early this morning, my weekly geni.com (family tree service) update notified me that i’m related to none other than the late great Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin. After recovering from the shock, i started a more detailed search - what family connection did we miss before?
Moments ago, the detailed analysis came in:

[Embedded content]

If anyone’s able to figure out the precise shape of that seemingly gnarly familial tree branch, please let me know…

I clicked on your page. Am I going to get offers from shadchanim?

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:35:04am

Do not taunt happy fun DRM.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:35:05am

re: #108 Nyet

A real text from MS’s site:

Yeah, that will help to improve my already nihilist views about copyright.

I guess my error was upgrading from Vista to Win7.

But I never use Windows Media Player, anyway, so I don’t care.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:36:51am

re: #109 Nyet

We’re all literal cousins, whether by evolution or creation.

Everything we eat is also our literal cousin.

Not according to some people, unless you count God the Creator as our mutual “father.”

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:38:38am

re: #112 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I guess my error was upgrading from Vista to Win7.

But I never use Windows Media Player, anyway, so I don’t care.

None of my mp3s have (or could have) drm, so I don’t care either. ;)

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:39:14am

re: #113 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Not according to some people, unless you count God the Creator as our mutual “father.”

Adam and Eve.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:40:41am

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Short version. If he were alive, you could marry him.

Yup, pretty much what I thought! I’m trying to mentally sketch out the connection in a ‘tree branch’ linear fashion and keep coming up with the mental image of a solitary piece of wood tumbling about amidst the uncertain winds of a semi-conscious and slightly embarrassed tornado…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:41:35am

I still cannot play my totally legal, documented Civ4 on my totally legal, COA’d Vista laptop. I could for years, until the September ‘security upgrade’. Fuck Microsoft and all who sail in her.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:41:52am

Philosof Rabin?

Oh, they mean Rabin-Pelossof...

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:44:23am

re: #102 Archangelus

update notified me that i’m related

I’d classify this as false advertising.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:44:32am

re: #112 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I guess my error was upgrading from Vista to Win7.

Fixed for greater accuracy.

In all seriousness, moving from Vista to anything short of Millennium Edition *shudders* is a step in the right direction.

Quite happy with my highly modified version of Win7, and much like with XP - which lasted FAR longer than MS wanted - I won’t be switching to 8, 10 or anything else in the foreseeable or distant future.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:45:45am

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Fuck Microsoft and all who sail in her.

“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

Join the Dark Side. We don’t have cookies. ;)

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:46:39am

re: #120 Archangelus

Fixed for greater accuracy.

In all seriousness, moving from Vista to anything short of Millennium Edition *shudders* is a step in the right direction.

Quite happy with my highly modified version of Win7, and much like with XP - which lasted FAR longer than MS wanted - I won’t be switching to 8, 10 or anything else in the foreseeable or distant future.

I’ve never had a problem with Vista on my old laptop.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:46:58am

re: #120 Archangelus

Fixed for greater accuracy.

In all seriousness, moving from Vista to anything short of Millennium Edition *shudders* is a step in the right direction.

Quite happy with my highly modified version of Win7, and much like with XP - which lasted FAR longer than MS wanted - I won’t be switching to 8, 10 or anything else in the foreseeable or distant future.

As of this writing, my old laptop runs Win7 and the new one, Win10. The old one has been retired — battery issues. The new one is chugging along just fine, though I have some kind of memory leak problem if I don’t reboot it every few days.

XP is still widely used in China.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:48:13am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

I clicked on your page. Am I going to get offers from shadchanim?

Seeing how the vast majority of that service’s users are international and thus mostly non-Jewish, i think you’re safe… ;)

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:48:32am

re: #121 Nyet

“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

Join the Dark Side. We don’t have cookies. ;)

I have been offered several work-arounds, all of them varying degrees of security violation or simple piracy. There are a few million old-game fanatics in this situation. Great PR effort, there.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:49:13am

Dan Snyder and the Wa. Redskins are getting desperate about having their trademark protection revoked.

NFL trademark appeal targets Big City Coffee

BOISE — One local coffee shop is gaining national attention after being named in a trademark appeal filed by the Washington Redskins. The appeal is in response to the cancellation of the NFL team’s federal trademark after a judge ruled the Redskins name derogatory.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:50:21am

re: #122 Nyet

I’ve never had a problem with Vista on my old laptop.

Then you are quite the exception to the very battered rule (written by someone who ended up literally replacing the pre-installed Vista copies from the PCs/laptops of everyone he knew who had it).

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:51:23am

re: #124 Archangelus

Also, on the off-chance that you weren’t joking about it, how did you reach MY profile?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:52:22am

re: #124 Archangelus

Seeing how the vast majority of that service’s users are international and thus mostly non-Jewish, i think you’re safe… ;)

“My mother always said our mixed marriage would never work.”
“Because I’m Jewish and you’re Irish?”
“Because I’m neat and you’re a slob.”
—Stella and Meara

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:53:39am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Hate to nitpick, but isn’t that Stiller and Maera?

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:54:01am

re: #127 Archangelus

Maybe. That was a pre-installed version too, never bothered me, in fact I’m still using it as a backup computer without problems (with an external monitor connected because the display died).

Win 8 irritated me in comparison, mainly because of the Start Menu issue.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:55:19am

re: #128 Archangelus

Also, on the off-chance that you weren’t joking about it, how did you reach MY profile?

Clicked on the screenshot you posted—it’s embiggenable.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:55:21am

re: #130 Archangelus

Hate to nitpick, but isn’t that Stiller and Maera?

Love to nitpick, but it’s Stiller and Meara. :P

134
Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:56:06am

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Clicked on the screenshot you posted—it’s embiggenable.

Not embiggable?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:56:55am

re: #130 Archangelus

Hate to nitpick, but isn’t that Stiller and Maera?

Heh. It’s Stiller and Meara. We’ll split the difference.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:56:57am

re: #133 Nyet

Love to nitpick, but it’s Stiller and Meara. :P

Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara. Anne died last year.

137
Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:57:24am

re: #134 Nyet

Not embiggable?

Quit nitpicking.

138
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 3:57:59am

Jeez. Jerry Stiller is 88.

139
Archangelus  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:01:38am

re: #132 Decatur Deb

Clicked on the screenshot you posted—it’s embiggenable.

Had to check on account of momentary terror whether or not I did in fact link my personal profile by mistake (I try to avoid that kind of stuff); Thankfully that’s just a link to Rabin’s main profile on the site, probably currated by someone in his family like with 99.2% of all profiles on the service, and not a link mine..
So thanks for the mini heart attack.. ;)

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:02:12am

re: #137 Decatur Deb

Quit nitpicking.

Why go against nature?
gilbraltar barbary apes nit picking

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:02:56am

re: #140 Nyet

Why go against nature?
[Embedded content]

Three of our cousins there.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:04:11am

re: #139 Archangelus

Today half of Israel learned they’re related to Rabin.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:09:04am

re: #91 Nyet

That settles the matter of fault, then: The first lady to raise the alarm was from Chicago, therefore the subsequent moral crisis is Barack Obama’s fault.

/

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:09:09am

re: #117 Decatur Deb

I still cannot play my totally legal, documented Civ4 on my totally legal, COA’d Vista laptop. I could for years, until the September ‘security upgrade’. Fuck Microsoft and all who sail in her.

Ubuntu and then XP in a virtual machine. Easy Peasey

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:09:26am

re: #142 Nyet

Today half of Israel learned they’re related to Rabin.

There is some math out there showing how many people in an ethnic group have to be related to successful breeders of the past. An ungodly proportion of Irish actually are descendants of Brian Boru.

The Chieftains - Brian Boru’s March [HD]

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:11:29am

re: #144 William Lewis

Ubuntu and then XP in a virtual machine. Easy Peasey

It will be something like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:13:08am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

There is some math out there showing how many people in an ethnic group have to be related to successful breeders of the past. An ungodly proportion of Irish actually are descendants of Brian Boru.

[Embedded content]

Video

What percentage of Europe’s population is descended from Genghis Khan?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:14:54am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What percentage of Europe’s population is descended from Genghis Khan?

Probably the same publication from a few years ago. Being semi-isolated on an island boosted the Irish effect.

149
Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:15:34am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What percentage of Europe’s population is descended from Genghis Khan?

Very few, as the Mongols were only in Europe for a few years and they spent more time killing than breeding.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:16:08am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What percentage of Europe’s population is descended from Genghis Khan?

And Charlemagne.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:16:53am

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

Very few, as the Mongols were only in Europe for a few years and they spent more time killing than breeding.

The Khan’s genes are more common among Asians and Central Asians than Europeans, AFAIK.

wiki entry, fwiw en.wikipedia.org

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:22:26am
The period of Mongol rule over Russia included significant cultural and interpersonal contacts between the Russian and Mongolian ruling classes. By 1450, the Tatar language had become fashionable in the court of the Grand Prince of Moscow, Vasily II, who was accused of excessive love of the Tatars and their speech, and many Russian noblemen adopted Tatar surnames (for example, a member of the Veliamanov family adopted the Turkic name “Aksak” and his descendents were the Aksakovs)[10] Many Russian boyar (noble) families traced their descent from the Mongols or Tatars, including Veliaminov-Zernov, Godunov, Arseniev, Bakhmetev, Bulgakov (descendents of Bulgak), and Chaadaev (descendents of Genghis Khan’s son Chagatai Khan). In a survey of Russian noble families of the 17th century, over 15% of the Russian noble families had Tatar or Oriental origins.[11]

The demographic impact of the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke is an interesting topic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:24:09am

re: #152 Nyet

The demographic impact of the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke is an interesting topic.

They just didn’t have the right toothpaste

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:24:09am

re: #152 Nyet

The demographic impact of the so-called Tatar-Mongol yoke is an interesting topic.

So, given time, most Americans will get to be part-Cherokee after all.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:29:10am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

So, given time, most Americans will get to be part-Cherokee after all.

D4lMO/KOSHxGnniJHC33eHYHFyXHWata5elilyp51S3aY5LvMoIO5oWtAe0hrGyHP4tarc4f1jfmpnzS55u5lQ==

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:29:24am

re: #154 Decatur Deb

So, given time, most Americans will get to be part-Cherokee after all.

Larry Niven, in his Known Space series of stories and books, predicted that the skin tones of Earthlings would eventually become a uniform cafe-au-lait color. Of course, his future Earth benefited from free and easy travel (transfer booths), but given enough time, his prediction will eventually come true even with our more prosaic means of transport.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:31:32am

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Who are we gonna hate then?/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:32:37am

re: #157 Nyet

Who are we gonna hate then?/

Thank God for revealed religions…

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:32:54am

1st world problem: commercialization of Christmas.
0th world problem: commercialization of Festivus.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:33:06am

re: #157 Nyet

Who are we gonna hate then?/

People who like pineapple on pizza //

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:33:51am

… Broken text overwrote—had to force quit FF and reload.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:35:55am

re: #156 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Larry Niven, in his Known Space series of stories and books, predicted that the skin tones of Earthlings would eventually become a uniform cafe-au-lait color. Of course, his future Earth benefited from free and easy travel (transfer booths), but given enough time, his prediction will eventually come true even with our more prosaic means of transport.

Guessing was a party game in the Anthro department. Best guess, given the alcohol level and 1960s state of the art, was something like Samoan. That’s a good look.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:37:51am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Be nice. (Wife is a bit Creek and Cherokee, and she has the family photos.)

So am I. but I wanted to try out the “private comment addressed to a listed user or group of users” feature.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:39:16am

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

So am I. but I wanted to try out the “private comment addressed to a listed user or group of users” feature.

Didn’t know you could do more than one. Correcting an over-write swallowed my whole comment anyway.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:40:49am

Speaking of dead kings, my random searching turned up this tidbit:

Tutankhamun belongs to the haplogroup R1b1a2, which more than 50% of all men in Western Europe belong to.

igenea.com

So, Tut and I are cousins.

Very, very distant cousins.

Or not. There is skepticism about igenea’s claims that Tut shared Y-DNA heritage with Western Europeans. medium.com

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:42:01am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

Didn’t know you could do more than one. Correcting an over-write swallowed my whole comment anyway.

you just put a vertical line like this one ’ | ’ between the two usernames.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:43:17am

re: #165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Speaking of dead kings, my random searching turned up this tidbit:

igenea.com

So, Tut and I are cousins.

Very, very distant cousins.

In that vein, I remember a bit from the Sagan Cosmos in which he gave the numbers on the likeihood that we have all breathed a few of Julius Caesar’s atoms.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:44:59am

re: #167 Decatur Deb

In that vein, I remember a bit from the Sagan Cosmos in which he gave the numbers on the likeihood that we have all breathed a few of Julius Caesar’s atoms.

I always knew I had a bit of Caesar in me.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:45:19am

re: #167 Decatur Deb

In that vein, I remember a bit from the Sagan Cosmos in which he gave the numbers on the likeihood that we have all breathed a few of Julius Caesar’s atoms.

Recycling is nothing new to Mother Nature.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:46:39am

re: #168 Nyet

I always knew I had a bit of Caesar in me.

Too much cholesterol. I try to stick to vinegrette.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:48:34am

re: #165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Speaking of dead kings, my random searching turned up this tidbit:

igenea.com

So, Tut and I are cousins.

Very, very distant cousins.

Or maybe not. I did some more searching. His DNA profile is still under debate.

livescience.com

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:49:25am

re: #171 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Or maybe not. I did some more searching. His DNA profile is still under debate.

livescience.com

All the grain dust contaminated the samples.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 4:59:45am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

All the grain dust contaminated the samples.

And Joseph’s skin cells.

Here’s a longer article delving into the politics of extracting DNA from long dead pharaohs. medium.com

The igenea claim is certainly spurious. I need to edit my earlier post.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:04:13am

re: #172 Decatur Deb

I always knew there was a grain of truth to the rumor that king Tut was an Akkadian plant.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:10:10am

re: #173 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

And Joseph’s skin cells.

Here’s a longer article delving into the politics of extracting DNA from long dead pharaohs. medium.com

The igenea claim is certainly spurious. I need to edit my earlier post.

I plugged this show a couple days ago.
imdb.com

An English research lab did some tissue analysis (spectroscopic, not genetic), but they already had a retained sample from studies done decades ago. American archaeology is trapped in a lot of legal hassle over when is a bone up for study, when is it tribal heritage, and when is it someone’s great-uncle? No good answers that satisfy everybody.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:11:04am

re: #174 Nyet

I always knew there was a grain of truth to the rumor that king Tut was an Akkadian plant.

His aunt Millet was always suspect.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:13:42am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

His aunt Millet was always suspect.

Well, his aunt was also his mom, so it gets confusing.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:15:15am

re: #177 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, his aunt was also his mom, so it gets confusing.

She was the flour of Egyptian womanhood.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:19:12am

re: #176 Decatur Deb

If you know how to separate the wheat from the chaff, the rumor mill is not so bad.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:20:00am

re: #175 Decatur Deb

I plugged this show a couple days ago.
imdb.com

An English research lab did some tissue analysis (spectroscopic, not genetic), but they already had a retained sample from studies done decades ago. American archaeology is trapped in a lot of legal hassle over when is a bone up for study, when is it tribal heritage, and when is it someone’s great-uncle? No good answers that satisfy everybody.

There’s been a controversy about Kennewick Man, who was clearly Native American. The local Nations want his remains buried properly, while the scientific researchers want his remains available for research, as he provides important clues about the origins of Native Americans.

Some Native populations are also not very keen on all this genetic research, as it strongly indicates descent from Asiatic populations, which contradicts Native American traditions about their origins.

I showed my students a VOA video a couple of weeks ago about Navajo students studying the Navajo language. One girl who was interviewed looked very Chinese, and my students commented on the similarities in facial characteristics.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:23:07am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There’s been a controversy about Kennewick Man, who was clearly Native American. The local Nations want his remains buried properly, while the scientific researchers want his remains available for research, as he provides important clues about the origins of Native Americans.

Some Native populations are also not very keen on all this genetic research, as it strongly indicates descent from Asiatic populations, which contradicts Native American traditions about their origins.

I showed my students a VOA video a couple of weeks ago about Navajo students studying the Navajo language. One girl who was interviewed looked very Chinese, and my students commented on the similarities in facial characteristics.

Used to have a vinyl album of Navajo war songs. The striking thing was how seamlessly they moved from forgotten wars, through WWII, to Korea.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:24:01am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

There’s cultural sensitivity, and then there’s obscurantism under the guise of cultural sensitivity. This is clearly an example of the latter.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:24:56am

re: #182 Nyet

There’s cultural sensitivity, and then there’s obscurantism under the guise of cultural sensitivity. This is clearly an example of the latter.

With a strong dose of internal and external politics.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:25:17am

re: #182 Nyet

In February 2004, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that a cultural link between any of the Native American tribes and the Kennewick Man could not be proved because of the age of the remains. Its ruling allowed scientific study of the remains to continue, while the USACE retained custody of the remains.[5][6] In July 2005, a team of scientists from around the United States convened in Seattle for 16 days to study the remains in detail. Their research results were published in 2014 in Kennewick Man: The Scientific Investigation of an Ancient American Skeleton edited by Douglas Owsley and Richard Jantz.[7][8]

Right.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:28:15am

re: #184 Nyet

Right.

Probably no cultural link, but there is a genetic link. That, however, is not enough to say Kennewick Man was related to any specific population group now in existence.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:30:27am

re: #185 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Probably no cultural link, but there is a genetic link. That, however, is not enough to say Kennewick Man was related to any specific population group now in existence.

There may be a genetic link between me and Lucy, but it doesn’t mean I should have any say on what happens to her remains.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:31:20am

re: #185 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Probably no cultural link, but there is a genetic link. That, however, is not enough to say Kennewick Man was related to any specific population group now in existence.

A PhD in our department was formally cursed by a lawyer who was also a bit of a shaman. He pretty much deserved it.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:31:34am

re: #182 Nyet

There’s cultural sensitivity, and then there’s obscurantism under the guise of cultural sensitivity. This is clearly an example of the latter.

Speaking of which:
usnews.com

HONOLULU (AP) — The first two trials for those arrested for blocking telescope construction crews on Mauna Kea have ended in guilty verdicts.

Hawaii County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Britt Bailey says a judge on Thursday convicted Ronald Fujiyoshi and Linda Lindsey-Kaapuni of obstructing.

Fujiyoshi was sentenced to six months’ probation and must remain off the mountain’s access road. Lindsey-Kaapuni was sentenced to 100 hours of community service.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:33:58am

It’s too early to be cleaning the oven.
:/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:34:22am

re: #188 Nyet

Speaking of which:

The first two trials for those arrested for blocking telescope construction crews on Mauna Kea have ended in guilty verdicts.

If it was for building a ski resort or commercial development, I could understand the protests. Here we are dealing with something that really does serve the greater good with minimal impact.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:38:29am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If it was for building a ski resort or commercial development, I could understand the protests. Here we are dealing with something that really does serve the greater good with minimal impact.

We can’t be arbitrary in whose fact-free beliefs we cater to, right? So if religious sensitivity trumps science, the logical move is to stop teaching evolution. Because teaching evolution is, actually, very offensive to creationists, whether YE or OE.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:38:31am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If it was for building a ski resort or commercial development, I could understand the protests. Here we are dealing with something that really does serve the greater good with minimal impact.

If I’m remembering my SF correctly, Arthur C. Clarke proposed a similar controversy in Fountains of Paradise.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:42:09am

re: #191 Nyet

We can’t be arbitrary in whose fact-free beliefs we cater to, right? So if religious sensitivity trumps science, the logical move is to stop teaching evolution. Because teaching evolution is, actually, very offensive to creationists, whether YE or OE.

The astronomers screwed up. They should have called it “The Thirty-Meter Cathedral”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:42:32am

re: #191 Nyet

We can’t be arbitrary in whose fact-free beliefs we cater to, right? So if religious sensitivity trumps science, the logical move is to stop teaching evolution. Because teaching evolution is, actually, very offensive to creationists, whether YE or OE.

Science and professional historians step on a lot of toes all around the world.

Meanwhile, religious extremists (like Da’esh) are doing their damnedest to destroy ancient artifacts because they’re “blasphemous.”

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:43:03am

re: #193 Decatur Deb

The astronomers screwed up. They should have called it “The Thirty-Meter Cathedral”.

Not too late to have the Satanic Temple consecrate it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:43:23am

re: #194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Science and professional historians step on a lot of toes all around the world.

Meanwhile, religious extremists (like Da’esh) are doing their damnedest to destroy ancient artifacts because they’re “blasphemous.”

Christians did that to “heathen” archaeological sites all over the world.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:45:37am

re: #195 Nyet

Not too late to have the Satanic Temple consecrate it.

A statue has gone redundant in Oklahoma.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:45:57am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Christians did that to “heathen” archaeological sites all over the world.

There are some chronicle entries as to what Vladimir did to the pagan idols after his forced baptism of Rus. They may not reflect the actual reality, but they do reflect the mental one.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:47:48am

Another day of rain, and our high temp was before dawn. Time to stir.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:50:20am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Christians did that to “heathen” archaeological sites all over the world.

Literature, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:50:39am

re: #198 Nyet

There are some chronicle entries as to what Vladimir did to the pagan idols after his forced baptism of Rus. They may not reflect the actual reality, but they do reflect the mental one.

And all the megalithic burial sites that were razed as “devil’s altars” and used as road-building material in central Europe. Only a handful remain, mostly in inaccessible areas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:52:52am

kinda cool:

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:54:42am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And all the megalithic burial sites that were razed and used as road-building material in central Europe. Only a handful remain, mostly in inaccessible areas.

I thought Rome started doing that even before they were Christians; perks of empire and all that?

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:55:26am

re: #200 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The conservative forms of all Abrahamic religions have been plain destructive in what concerned the “pagan” heritage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:56:27am

re: #203 William Lewis

I thought Rome started doing that even before they were Christians; perks of empire and all that?

I can imagine that they did not hesitate to do so to build roads, but did engage in an active campaign to wipe them out as monuments to evil.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 5:59:19am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I can imagine that they did not hesitate to do so to build roads, but did not actively set out to wipe them out as monuments to evil.

The Romans were tolerant of other religions, as long as the observers recognized the deity of the emperor (at least in name).

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:01:41am

re: #206 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Romans were tolerant of other religions, as long as the observers recognized the deity of the emperor (at least in name).

They did not give much of a shit as long as the subject peoples obeyed Roman law and paid their taxes on time.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:10:40am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They did not give much of a shit as long as the subject peoples obeyed Roman law and paid their taxes on time.

Pretty much, especially the taxes part.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:13:03am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Pretty much, especially the taxes part.

They were perfectly happy to leave the local kings and rulers in place as long as they maintained order.

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sagehen  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:15:18am

re: #142 Nyet

Today half of Israel learned they’re related to Rabin.

Since all the Ashkenazi are descended from 3 12th-century villages… they probably actually are.

I use this factoid to tell myself I must be related to Albert Einstein, Groucho Marx, Moshe Dayan and Steven Spielberg.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:16:35am

re: #210 sagehen

Good point.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:23:55am

Here’s the study:
timesofisrael.com

And at the risk of opening a can of worms, this para challenges the usual notion of “inbreeding” being necessarily bad for one’s IQ:

An analysis of the gene database shows that the original Ashkenazi Jews were about half European and half Middle Eastern. They lived in the medieval era, about 600 to 800 years ago, according to the analysis - and numbered just 350 or so people.
[…]
Because the Ashkenazi community started out so small, and remained genetically isolated, it developed a higher load of disease-causing mutations. Even today, Ashkenazi Jews are known to be at higher risk for many diseases, including breast and ovarian cancer and Tay-Sach’s disease. But many potentially disease-causing Ashkenazi mutations remain unknown.

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darthstar  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:26:28am
Not #Atheism so much as good old fashioned humor.
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:27:22am

re: #212 Nyet

Because the Ashkenazi community started out so small, and remained genetically isolated, it developed a higher load of disease-causing mutations. Even today, Ashkenazi Jews are known to be at higher risk for many diseases, including breast and ovarian cancer and Tay-Sach’s disease. But many potentially disease-causing Ashkenazi mutations remain unknown.

Does go a ways to explain why they have such a reputation for being hypochondriacs…

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:30:08am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Does go a ways to explain why they have such a reputation for being hypochondriacs…

How many of them have “I told you I was sick!” inscribed on their tombstones?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:31:57am

re: #213 darthstar

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That’s funny.

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wrenchwench  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:38:57am

re: #168 Nyet

I always knew I had a bit of Caesar in me.

Sid Caesar.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:42:02am

re: #11 Lidane

ROFL:

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The last Harry Potter book came out in 2007. The film series ended in 2011. Yet somehow, God is still pissed off about it.

Swanson is going soft on homosexuality though. He wants to give homosexuals time to repent before imposing a death sentence on them; what a bleeding heart librul./

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:54:07am

re: #218 Big Beautiful Door

Swanson is going soft on homosexuality though. He wants to give homosexuals time to repent before imposing a death sentence on them; what a bleeding heart librul./

Of course, let them repent and donate their property to the Church.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 8, 2015 • 6:56:17am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:00:38am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

GOP outreach

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:03:49am

Heh. Stumbled across this and with the clock-shifting last week it’s sort of timely.

ntsouthwest.co.uk

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:27:06am

Sunday morning, time for a Republican to blame their woes on libruls:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:29:15am

re: #223 Lidane

Sunday morning, time for a Republican to blame their woes on libruls:

The party of personal responsibility

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:30:09am

Morning!

So, Ben Carson is going to go the full God-bothering, TeaParty drinking, full-on Right Wing Nutjub and call the media out as his defense.

Please proceed.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:30:11am

re: #223 Lidane

He’s partly right. I’m afraid of what might happen if he were elected president.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:30:46am

re: #224 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The party of personal responsibility

The Party of Perpetual Butthurt and Victimhood.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:31:07am

‘They attack me because I’m so awesome, they fear me.’

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:31:53am

re: #225 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, Ben Carson is going to go the full God-bothering, TeaParty drinking, full-on Right Wing Nutjub and call the media out as his defense.

Please proceed.

Is a right wing nutjub a kind of cloak they put over themselves to protect themselves from seeing the outside world?

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:32:10am

Watching Meet The Todd because of Carson. And his panel has Hugh Hewitt and Rachel Maddow. I expect some headbutting right there.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:32:56am

re: #186 Nyet

There may be a genetic link between me and Lucy, but it doesn’t mean I should have any say on what happens to her remains.

You got some ‘splainin’ to do!

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:34:21am

The reciprocal champion/victimhood complex repeats itself.

1. Say stupid or ludicrous shit, or lie
2. When called on it claim persecution by evil forces
3. Claim evil forces are against you because you are awesome and they fear you
4. PROFIT!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:35:53am
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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:36:08am

The mainstreaming of Hugh Hewitt is extremely unnerving. He’s every bit a lunatic as the rest of them but is linguistically adept as he’s a litigator and as not prone to say stupid shit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:36:30am

re: #232 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

It’s become so common, it’s predictable.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:37:43am

re: #235 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s become so common, it’s predictable.

America’s Saving Time: Every other autumn the GOP sets us back by a decade or more.
:p

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:39:06am

re: #229 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is a right wing nutjub a kind of cloak they put over themselves to protect themselves from seeing the outside world?

I think it might just be a helmet made of glued together white oak nut shells that has become a replacement for the former tin foil hats used previously.

Though, the same technology could be used for things like cloaks, vests, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:41:45am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
I knew James Woods was a wingnut but I did not know how batshit insane he is. So sad, I really loved Disney Hercules.

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danarchy  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:46:16am

re: #26 teleskiguy

And every week during autumn I read another story of a teenage football player dying of injuries sustained on the gridiron.

I sincerely hope the NFL goes out of business in my lifetime.

How is this different than all of the stories I read about people dying skiing? Should ski slopes be put out of business?

If people choose that that is what they want to do and they accept the risk why should anyone care. Now there is a legitimate gripe that the full level of risk was being covered up, but at this point people know the risks, and if they still choose to play why should anyone care?

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:48:09am

re: #234 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

The mainstreaming of Hugh Hewitt is extremely unnerving. He’s every bit a lunatic as the rest of them but is linguistically adept as he’s a litigator and as not prone to say stupid shit.

Yeah. He is slick. And that is why they seem to love him. I know to me he seemed to come right out of right field central casting this past year. Before this political season I never heard of the guy.

Of course, before McCain lost his backbone I never heard of Sarah Palin either.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:51:14am

And Rachel goes right after Hewitt’s defending Carson.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:53:21am

re: #228 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

‘They attack me because I’m so awesome, they fear me.’

That’s their go to line. Caribou Barbie used it too.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:57:39am

Ben is basically a RWNJ internet troll. He trots out the exact same conspiracy theories about Obama’s records being sealed and now he’s proclaiming criticism is brought about because the left is “afraid”. These are the exact same standard operating procedures used by RWNJs.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:57:56am

So, Hewitt is squawking there were two Hillary scandals this past week and no reporting that. Carson feels that he is being zeroed in on and Hillary goes free.

Gwen Ifill jumped in and said there was also a report that her supposed emails that were highly classified as secret were not, and that wasn’t reported either. Hewitt shut up.

By the way, what were these two Hillary scandals? Hewitt’s reference went by too quick for me to get the info.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 8, 2015 • 7:57:58am

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Chuck is even more unhinged than usual. Full moon tonight?

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And here I was hoping Chuck doesn’t kill himself and instead gets some help when his “journalism” fantasy collapses. Now I won’t feel as bad as I would have when it happens. He’s a monster.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:01:00am

re: #245 No Country For Old Haters

And here I was hoping Chuck doesn’t kill himself and instead gets some help when his “journalism” fantasy collapses. Now I won’t feel as bad as I would have when it happens. He’s a monster.

I’d like to know how he has Shaun King’s DNA, and how he can be sure it hasn’t been contaminated somehow. Does Chuck carry a CSI kit with him wherever he goes?

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dholmes32  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:02:56am

re: #239 danarchy

How is this different than all of the stories I read about people dying skiing? Should ski slopes be put out of business?

If people choose that that is what they want to do and they accept the risk why should anyone care. Now there is a legitimate gripe that the full level of risk was being covered up, but at this point people know the risks, and if they still choose to play why should anyone care?

These are high school kids, not adults, for one. For another, I’m not too keen on my tax dollars going to fund public school sports that have the very real possibility of maiming or killing participants.

But really…these are KIDS.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:03:25am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’d like to know how he has Shaun King’s DNA, and how he can be sure it hasn’t been contaminated somehow. Does Chuck carry a CSI kit with him wherever he goes?

In a nutshell, Chuck is full of shit….as usual. For a “journalist” he certainly spends an inordinate amount of time telling bullshit tales.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:05:17am

re: #246 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’d like to know how he has Shaun King’s DNA, and how he can be sure it hasn’t been contaminated somehow. Does Chuck carry a CSI kit with him wherever he goes?

What the hell would it cost to have a test done from DNA to determine racial type giving CCJ the benefit of the doubt that he has King’s DNA?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:08:02am

re: #249 ObserverArt

What the hell would it cost to have a test done from DNA to determine racial type giving CCJ the benefit of the doubt that he has King’s DNA?

He could have used something like ‘23 and Me’ or equivalent. They have ancestry markers.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:09:09am

re: #249 ObserverArt

What the hell would it cost to have a test done from DNA to determine racial type giving CCJ the benefit of the doubt that he has King’s DNA?

Between $75- $100 at most services. But the only way to be sure if it’s King’s DNA would be to compare the results from a close relative, or a voluntary sample from King. I doubt King’s DNA is stored in some national database, despite what CSI and NCIS scriptwriters suggest.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:09:59am

re: #249 ObserverArt

What the hell would it cost to have a test done from DNA to determine racial type giving CCJ the benefit of the doubt that he has King’s DNA?

My guess is that he’s done no testing, and that he’s got a discarded Starbucks cup or something.

This is Chuck we’re talking about here. He operates in no other mode than half-assed.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:10:05am

I had no idea this exists. How cool.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:11:24am

re: #250 Dr. Matt

He could have used something like ‘23 and Me’ or equivalent. They have ancestry markers.

I think Chuck means he has a sample (hair, drinking cup, etc.) from which DNA can be extracted, not that he has King’s DNA test results. The first is creepy enough, but the second possibility suggests real privacy violations/identity theft possibilities.

besides, 23 and Me and the other services send you a kit to swab your cheek. They don’t accept random items with possible DNA on them.

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danarchy  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:13:59am

re: #247 dholmes32

These are high school kids, not adults, for one. For another, I’m not too keen on my tax dollars going to fund public school sports that have the very real possibility of maiming or killing participants.

But really…these are KIDS.

And kids don’t ski? What about ice hockey, should that go too? Competitive cheerleading, that has a pretty high rate of catastrophic injury? Lacrosse? Maybe everyone should just play chess.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:14:44am

re: #252 makeitstop

My guess is that he’s done no testing, and that he’s got a discarded Starbucks cup or something.

This is Chuck we’re talking about here. He operates in no other mode than half-assed.

I understand. I was wondering about costs because he is always concerned about raising money for his hit pieces. He might tell his ‘followers’ he needs $2500 bucks to bring down King and pocket the extra $2000+.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:17:00am

re: #256 ObserverArt

I understand. I was wondering about costs because he is always concerned about raising money for his hit pieces. He might tell his ‘followers’ he needs $2500 bucks to bring down King and pocket the extra $2000+.

He should be so lucky. His $40,000 Hillary Oppo project has raised only $1,055 so far, after six months.

I think even his followers have had enough of his grifting.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:21:12am

re: #257 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He should be so lucky. His $40,000 Hillary Oppo project has raised only $1,055 so far, after six months.

I think even his followers have had enough of his grifting.

Chucky is NEVER deterred!

Reality has no standing with the Great Chuck.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:21:14am

Trying to clean up after a police detective spent years lying on search warrants, at grand juries, and during trials:

Thus far, felony convictions against five people have been tossed out as a result of faulty, if not false, search warrant affidavits from a former Richmond police detective.

The Virginia Beach Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office has been appointed special prosecutor in the matter, and a spokeswoman said the office and the Virginia State Police are reviewing the conduct of Jason Norton, who left the department in 2013, for possible prosecution.

Meanwhile, Patrick W. Dorgan, an assistant Richmond commonwealth’s attorney, said: “We’re trying to clean up the mess.”

Richmond Circuit Court judges have taken the extraordinary step of vacating convictions against some admittedly guilty people that resulted from questionable claims about informants Norton used to obtain search warrants. An additional 10 cases are in the pipeline in a situation that may be the first of its kind in Virginia, Dorgan said.

People convicted as a result of the improprieties could clear their records through the more cumbersome process of civil challenges. But, Dorgan said, “we felt this was the quickest way to get the parties in front of the court and get these things taken care of.”

Correcting the Norton cases is winning widespread praise, but the remedy — judges vacating the convictions — is being questioned by some defense lawyers who contend authorities are going around a rule they otherwise enforce.

A Virginia Supreme Court rule takes jurisdiction away from circuit court judges 21 days after a sentencing order is entered. The rule is aimed at providing finality in criminal cases and has been invoked by prosecutors, Virginia attorneys general and the courts at times when inmates claimed new evidence of innocence they wanted to bring before a court.

richmond.com

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:21:31am

And he obsesses over another Black activist. Notice the thinly veiled, “It’ll be sooner than you think”.

#chuckcjohnson #askderay
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:24:31am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

And he obsesses over another Black activist. Notice the thinly veiled, “It’ll be sooner than you think”.

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Shaun and Deray have called Chuck out several times over his so-called Ferguson coverage, done in absentia from his basement office in Fresno County.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:30:52am

If stalking for DNA isn’t against the law, it should probably be.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:33:59am

This weekend’s local wingnut freakout - the Roosevelt Field shopping mall put up their Santa display (called ‘The Glacier Experience’ for some reason), and didn’t include a Christmas tree.

Everybody on Facebook was all ZOMG boycott boycott BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!!!11ty! The mall caved and added Christmas trees, but people are still bitching about it this morning.

I swear, our society lives for things to be pissed off about. Go find a fucking mall that has a Christmas tree and shop there and shut the fuck up already.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:35:23am

So, I’ve been thinking a bit about Ben Carson’s story about the Yale psychology class where the professor told them the final exams had been accidentally burned and they had to take them again, gave all the students a much harder test, and they all walked out except Ben.
Aside from all the painfully obvious problems with the story, I keep asking myself how the professor got that class of 150 students to reassemble after the final. There would be tons of conflicts, some students might have gone home-it would be a massive deal.

Yeah, I know the story is a complete fabrication and all, but it’s such a bad one. You’d think attention to detail would the mark of a brain surgeon, but apparently not.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:36:20am

re: #263 makeitstop

This weekend’s local wingnut freakout - the Roosevelt Field shopping mall put up their Santa display (called ‘The Glacier Experience’ for some reason), and didn’t include a Christmas tree.

Everybody on Facebook was all ZOMG boycott boycott BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!!!11ty! The mall caved and added Christmas trees, but people are still bitching about it this morning.

I swear, our society lives for things to be pissed off about. Go find a fucking mall that has a Christmas tree and shop there and shut the fuck up already.

Now they can start complaining that there is a pagan solstice symbol at the mall.
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:36:57am

re: #262 Nyet

If stalking for DNA isn’t against the law, it should probably be.

I can’t imagine how he could have obtained it, nor how he expects it’s uncontaminated.

That said, it’s a real invasion of privacy, and it should be made illegal.

Why he thinks King’s DNA is important is puzzling, since King has already stated he is mixed-race. Purported DNA results would be a real nothing-burger.

I’d rather see Chuck reveal his own DNA results, to support his claim of Viking heritage. There are haplogroups specific to the Scandinavians.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:38:01am

re: #263 makeitstop

This weekend’s local wingnut freakout - the Roosevelt Field shopping mall put up their Santa display (called ‘The Glacier Experience’ for some reason), and didn’t include a Christmas tree.

Everybody on Facebook was all ZOMG boycott boycott BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!!!11ty! The mall caved and added Christmas trees, but people are still bitching about it this morning.

I swear, our society lives for things to be pissed off about. Go find a fucking mall that has a Christmas tree and shop there and shut the fuck up already.

Roosevelt Field, as in Long Island Roosevelt Field?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:38:33am

re: #255 danarchy

And kids don’t ski? What about ice hockey, should that go too? Competitive cheerleading, that has a pretty high rate of catastrophic injury? Lacrosse? Maybe everyone should just play chess.

People die playing chess. Extended over a population of 300 million, every possible course of action is going to kill someone. The color of ambulances is a life-or-death decision.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:38:56am

re: #264 calochortus

So, I’ve been thinking a bit about Ben Carson’s story about the Yale psychology class where the professor told them the final exams had been accidentally burned and they had to take them again, gave all the students a much harder test, and they all walked out except Ben.
Aside from all the painfully obvious problems with the story, I keep asking myself how the professor got that class of 150 students to reassemble after the final. There would be tons of conflicts, some students might have gone home-it would be a massive deal.

Yeah, I know the story is a complete fabrication and all, but it’s such a bad one. You’d think attention to detail would the mark of a brain surgeon, but apparently not.

Oh, easy. he sent them all emails.
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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:39:32am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

And he obsesses over another Black activist. Notice the thinly veiled, “It’ll be sooner than you think”.

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Remember that Chuckles was thrown off of Twitter for threatening DeRay McKesson. So is not a surprise to find out that Mr. McKesson lives in Chuck’s head.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:39:39am

I think I’ve mentioned this before, I went to Chapman Law where Hewitt teaches constitutional law. I knew him in passing (I knew John Eastman now of NOM better). What you have to remember about Hewitt is that he falls into the politics as sports category. He’s on Team Red and he roots for anyone on Team Red the same way he’s a Browns fan and will root for anyone who plays for the Browns. He railed against McCain through 2007, but once he had the nomination McCain was the best man for the job since Lincoln.

In all honesty, Hewitt seemed like a decent guy in my interactions with him. And he means well, I think, but it really is a Team Red vs Team Blue thing for him.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:41:50am

OK. It’s shuteye time for me. See you all later.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:43:28am

re: #255 danarchy

And kids don’t ski? What about ice hockey, should that go too? Competitive cheerleading, that has a pretty high rate of catastrophic injury? Lacrosse? Maybe everyone should just play chess.

I agree with you: Sometimes people just get too concerned with preventing injuries. Being an athlete entails risk and some people who take that risk are going to get hurt. We can and should try to reduce that risk, but some level of it just needs to be accepted.

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allegro  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:44:58am

re: #264 calochortus

So, I’ve been thinking a bit about Ben Carson’s story about the Yale psychology class where the professor told them the final exams had been accidentally burned and they had to take them again, gave all the students a much harder test, and they all walked out except Ben.
Aside from all the painfully obvious problems with the story, I keep asking myself how the professor got that class of 150 students to reassemble after the final. There would be tons of conflicts, some students might have gone home-it would be a massive deal.

Yeah, I know the story is a complete fabrication and all, but it’s such a bad one. You’d think attention to detail would the mark of a brain surgeon, but apparently not.

I’ve asked those questions as well. What I see as most ridiculous is all students walking out on a final exam. They’re going to blow off a semester of work and trash their GPAs? All of them? No way.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:47:07am

re: #274 allegro

I’ve asked those questions as well. What I see as most ridiculous is all students walking out on a final exam. They’re going to blow off a semester of work and trash their GPAs? All of them? No way.

Yup, I’ve seen unhappy people at finals, kids who’ve almost certainly flunked them, but we all showed up for them.
And hanging around for your final isn’t a test of “honesty” as Carson claimed either.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:52:29am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Roosevelt Field, as in Long Island Roosevelt Field?

Yep. Lindbergh flew out of where the mall stands now.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:52:43am

re: #264 calochortus

So, I’ve been thinking a bit about Ben Carson’s story about the Yale psychology class where the professor told them the final exams had been accidentally burned and they had to take them again, gave all the students a much harder test, and they all walked out except Ben.
Aside from all the painfully obvious problems with the story, I keep asking myself how the professor got that class of 150 students to reassemble after the final. There would be tons of conflicts, some students might have gone home-it would be a massive deal.

Yeah, I know the story is a complete fabrication and all, but it’s such a bad one. You’d think attention to detail would the mark of a brain surgeon, but apparently not.

He didn’t think his getting caught would matter, because he’s figuring that the people he’s marketing himself to will dismiss the proof he lied as “A Lamestream media attack that only proves how much the LSM FEARS BEN CARSON!!!11”.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:52:46am

re: #263 makeitstop

This weekend’s local wingnut freakout - the Roosevelt Field shopping mall put up their Santa display (called ‘The Glacier Experience’ for some reason), and didn’t include a Christmas tree.

Everybody on Facebook was all ZOMG boycott boycott BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!!!11ty! The mall caved and added Christmas trees, but people are still bitching about it this morning.

I swear, our society lives for things to be pissed off about. Go find a fucking mall that has a Christmas tree and shop there and shut the fuck up already.

I would ask the people if they’re planning on any human sacrifices for the blot during Yule.

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Kid A  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:54:32am

re: #238 The Vicious Babushka

He was awesome in Casino. After that, he just lost his mind I guess.

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Kid A  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:56:54am

Touchdown I shot last night. The 200-400mm is an ass-saver for situations like this when a 400 is just way too tight. No one else got it.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:58:41am

re: #278 Timothy Watson

I would ask the people if they’re planning on any human sacrifices for the blot during Yule.

They’re planning to use their guns on a thug who coddled by liberals when he was younger, and in his death they will refresh the Tree of Liberty with his blood.

The preceding is entirely fictional, but it does fit some nasty wingnut memes.

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allegro  Nov 8, 2015 • 8:59:32am

re: #280 Kid A

Touchdown I shot last night. The 200-400mm is an ass-saver for situations like this when a 400 is just way too tight. No one else got it.

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You are a phenomenal photographer. Your work blows me away.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:00:03am

Says the woman who wants to convert as many Jews as possible:

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:00:12am

re: #279 Kid A

Being a good [insert profession here] generally has nothing to do with one’s political beliefs. It’s like the wingnuts who boycott stuff because HOLLYWOOD LIBRULS SHOVING THEIR PC CRAP DOWN OUR THROATS even though the work is something they’d otherwise enjoy - but the actor said something that was out of phase with the wingularity so they must be blacklisted for all eternity.

Also, James Woods has been fantastic (and a good sport) on Family Guy over the year.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:00:45am

re: #282 allegro

You are a phenomenal photographer. Your work blows me away.

Seconded. That’s an amazing shot.

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Kid A  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:02:11am

re: #282 allegro

You are a phenomenal photographer. Your work blows me away.

That’s one hell of a compliment that I’m not sure that I deserve, but thank you. I will say this: I bust my ass and I really care about doing my best.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:02:25am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

They’re planning to use their guns on a thug who coddled by liberals when he was younger, and in his death they will refresh the Tree of Liberty with his blood.

The preceding is entirely fictional, but it does fit some nasty wingnut memes.

No, no, no! We must get back to our noble Saxon and/or Celtic roots and sacrifice the Holly King on the solstice at the height of his power. Then we crown the Oak King who will rule as his strength increases as the days lengthen. Of course, come midsummer he will have to be sacrificed too, but we must do these things to insure the continuance of all life.
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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:03:02am

re: #278 Timothy Watson

my mom, who is Catholic in the sense that she goes to Midnight Mass and takes the grandkids to their first communion classes, used to always get upset with me when I’d point out that pretty much all of our Christmas traditions are really just coopted pagan traditions with some justifications from the nativity story. It was fun.

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Kid A  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:04:25am

re: #285 Lidane

Thank you. We got a lot of rain down here (Houston) yesterday, how about you in Austin?

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:06:54am

re: #279 Kid A

He was awesome in Casino. After that, he just lost his mind I guess.

“Life On the Edge of Chaos”, to use a concept Michael Crichton wrote about in The Lost World. James Woods was always a bit off but that’s what made him an effective actor. But it also meant he had a higher than average change of going Full Mental Wingnut or Full Barking Moonbat.

But Woods wasn’t political till in the summer of 2001 he witnessed what turned out to be a trial-run by some of the 9/11 terrorists of the tactics they would use to seize four airliners. After that, Mr. Woods became a fairly intense supporter of George W. Bush and for action against Radical Islamism. And like some such people, in 2008 James Woods became infected with Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS).

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:07:06am

re: #288 KGxvi

my mom, who is Catholic in the sense that she goes to Midnight Mass and takes the grandkids to their first communion classes, used to always get upset with me when I’d point out that pretty much all of our Christmas traditions are really just coopted pagan traditions with some justifications from the nativity story. It was fun.

That’s why I love the Christmas carol The Holly and the Ivy. It is just such a random appending of Nativity themes onto naturalistic ones.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:07:43am

re: #283 Lidane

Says the woman who wants to convert as many Jews as possible:

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One-sided attacks by Muslims against Jews continue in Israel. The world must condemn these Jew-hating terrorists.

They’re one-sided, all right—but not the way she means. Which side is reduced to using knives (and rocks) while their occupiers are armed to the teeth with every weapon known to man, including nukes?

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:09:36am

re: #277 Dark_Falcon

He didn’t think his getting caught would matter, because he’s figuring that the people he’s marketing himself to will dismiss the proof he lied as “A Lamestream media attack that only proves how much the LSM FEARS BEN CARSON!!!11”.

I think he may have come to believe some of his own hagiography. It all should have happened this way, so maybe it really did.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:09:46am

re: #289 Kid A

Thank you. We got a lot of rain down here (Houston) yesterday, how about you in Austin?

It rained some but not as bad as the crazy flooding last week.

I didn’t really notice because I’m shaking off the last vestiges of a nasty cold. I spent two days home from work this week because I was miserable and went in on Friday. Ugh. I’m hoping I can get rid of the last of this ick today.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:11:52am

This explains why HP went down the fucking tubes:

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:15:28am

re: #279 Kid A

He was awesome in Casino. After that, he just lost his mind I guess.

That’s similar to my thinking on Dr. Ben

Awesome in the operating room. After that, he just lost his mind.

And if he keeps up, there might be no further guessing.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:18:08am

re: #283 Lidane

Says the woman who wants to convert as many Jews as possible:

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Well, Michelle Bachmann is very wrong in toto, but she’s still ahead of the woman photographed with a knife about to attempt to murder someone simply because that other person is a Jew.

Remember: It can always get worse. Someone who fights with bad laws and dishonest internet posts is still much to be preferred to someone who comes at you with a knife.

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:19:01am

BBL

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:21:16am

re: #292 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’re one-sided, all right—but not the way she means. Which side is reduced to using knives (and rocks) while their occupiers are armed to the teeth with every weapon known to man, including nukes?

But the side with the nukes does not use them, nor does Israel use area-fire weapons at all when their use can be avoided. And Israel tries hard to avoid hurting those who are not fighting Israel. Their terrorist enemy attacks unarmed civilians with relish and thinks nothing for using IEDs, rockets, mortars, and every types of automatic weapon it can get its hands on.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:23:02am

re: #290 Dark_Falcon

“Life On the Edge of Chaos”, to use a concept Michael Crichton wrote about in The Lost World. James Woods was always a bit off but that’s what made him an effective actor. But it also meant he had a higher than average change of going Full Mental Wingnut or Full Barking Moonbat.

But Woods wasn’t political till in the summer of 2001 he witnessed what turned out to be a trial-run by some of the 9/11 terrorists of the tactics they would use to seize four airliners. After that, Mr. Woods became a fairly intense supporter of George W. Bush and for action against Radical Islamism. And like some such people, in 2008 James Woods became infected with Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS).

That all may be true Dark. But, it needs to be asked what happens to the reasoned mind that something political can trigger it to no longer reason and allows irrational thought to come in?

This is the point I was making in my previous comment. Is it normal to act that way, or is it something else? Is Woods losing it? Is Carson?

There have been successful people that had it all and then got real strange as they aged or isolated themselves into their own world. Is it something they desire, or is it something going on with their brains due to age, etc.?

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:23:22am

re: #297 Dark_Falcon

preferred

For what? She’s not a head of state or anyone influential to be coddled despite their flaws.
We can safely wish pox on both their houses.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:23:26am

re: #291 calochortus

Easter is even more fun for this kind of thing. It really does amaze me though how many Christians don’t understand (or more likely don’t want to understand) that there really aren’t many differences between their religious traditions and a lot of pagan traditions

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:23:30am

re: #296 ObserverArt

That’s similar to my thinking on Dr. Ben

Awesome in the operating room. After that, he just lost his mind.

And if he keeps up, there might be no further guessing.

Well, to be fair, being a good surgeon requires a great deal of confidence in yourself and your opinion, and doesn’t require that you be at all acquainted with larger reality.

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allegro  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:23:30am

re: #293 calochortus

I think he may have come to believe some of his own hagiography. It all should have happened this way, so maybe it really did.

I see increasing evidence of mental illness and/or severe personality disorder. He reminds me more and more of my neice-in-law who tells outlandish lies, most of which are so riduculous you gotta wonder how stupid she thinks people are. If questioned, the tears start then claims of persecution before she runs and hides saying she’s being stalked. Her husband I don’t get at all since he’s more than an enabler in this. You can see in his face that he knows she’s lying while congratulating her on her latest “accomplishment”. Damn creepy.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:26:04am

re: #223 Lidane

Anybody with a minimum level of sanity is afraid of you, Ben.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:27:51am

re: #229 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is a right wing nutjub a kind of cloak they put over themselves to protect themselves from seeing the outside world?

Sort of a reverse invisibility cloak. It makes the rest of the world invisible instead of the wearer.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:28:34am

re: #295 Lidane

This explains why HP went down the fucking tubes:

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That was bizarre. She basically refuses to put anything on paper because all politicians go off their plans anyway. Or, something.

Something about Carly that is real hard to take. Everything she says has an edge of arrogant chiding that feels like it has no real backing from her reputation. Then she openly admits she doesn’t need facts.

Policy or Planned Parenthood. No facts needed. I guess that is more of that “telling it like it is” politicians like.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:29:15am

re: #280 Kid A

Touchdown I shot last night. The 200-400mm is an ass-saver for situations like this when a 400 is just way too tight. No one else got it.

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Full frame Canon system I presume?

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:29:56am
Over half of Jewish Israelis (53 percent) believe that a Palestinian suspected of carrying out a terrorist attack “should be killed on the spot, even if he has been apprehended and no longer poses a threat,” a new survey shows.
[…]
Eighty percent of the Jewish public responded that “the home of the family of a Palestinian who has murdered Jews on a nationalist background should be demolished,” while 53 percent said that the homes of Jewish terrorists’ families should not be demolished. By contrast, 77 percent of Palestinians citizens believed that Palestinian terrorists’ homes should not be demolished, while 67 percent responded that Jewish terrorists’ homes should also not be demolished.

972mag.com

Nice.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:30:24am

re: #300 ObserverArt

But, it needs to be asked what happens to the reasoned mind that something political can trigger it to no longer reason and allows irrational thought to come in?

Maybe it is a kind of shock. As DF said, Woods changed in/around 2001 because of Islamist attacks. Quite honestly many of us did. The difference is that most of us were eventually able to process and accept the events. Some couldn’t. I think this is often the case with cases of shock and/or PTSD. Again, maybe

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dholmes32  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:30:56am

re: #255 danarchy

And kids don’t ski? What about ice hockey, should that go too? Competitive cheerleading, that has a pretty high rate of catastrophic injury? Lacrosse? Maybe everyone should just play chess.

Well, outside of John Cusack’s teen movie “Better Off Dead,” I never heard of a high school ski team. But the fact still remains, high school are getting KILLED weekly playing football. I don’t hear the same thing about competitive cheerleading or lacrosse.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:33:55am

re: #311 dholmes32

Well, outside of John Cusack’s teen movie “Better Off Dead,” I never heard of a high school ski team. But the fact still remains, high school are getting KILLED weekly playing football. I don’t hear the same thing about competitive cheerleading or lacrosse.

Actually a fair number of cheerleaders suffer fairly major injuries (it is the leading cause of catastrophic injury among girls and young women) and deaths are not unknown. The same is true of lacrosse - especially if played closer to traditional rather than by the more modern sporting rules as it is on some of the reservations.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:34:32am

re: #302 KGxvi

Easter is even more fun for this kind of thing. It really does amaze me though how many Christians don’t understand (or more likely don’t want to understand) that there really aren’t many differences between their religious traditions and a lot of pagan traditions

The religious antecedents of these “War on Christmas” wingnuts would have put someone in the stocks for acknowledging Christmas in any way. As late as the Civil War era, many (possibly most) Americans didn’t celebrate Christmas—it was regarded as an exclusively Catholic holiday. It was around then that the observations we know came filtering in from England, but even there they were really brought in by Prince Albert from Germany. Of course a lot of the Christmas “traditions” we think are ancient were created out of whole cloth by Norman Rockwell in the 1930s.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:34:51am

re: #301 Nyet

For what? She’s not a head of state or anyone influential to be coddled despite their flaws.
We can safely wish pox on both their houses.

What I meant is that if you have a foe its usually better to have one who isn’t using violence. I also wanted you to see this, in view of a conversation we had yesterday:

Sexting scandal: Colorado high school faces felony investigation

Fremont County District Attorney Thom LeDoux encouraged students to surrender phones and digital devices with the nude photos.

“For parents that may be having conversations with their children or reviewing cell phones as the superintendent recommended, they need to understand that continuing or ongoing possession of these materials does constitute a very serious crime for the adults and for the children,” the prosecutor said.

Any convictions could involve registration as a sex offender, the prosecutor said.

“We take the implications of requiring to register someone as a sex offender very seriously, and we would only seek to have that application of the law to these circumstances if we felt that it was absolutely necessary,” LeDoux said.

“It is not necessary that all of the children involved in the circumstance will have to register as a sex offender. We will only seek that remedy through the courts if we believe there is no other choice and is in the best interest in the victim involved and the children involved in our community,” the prosecutor said.

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dholmes32  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:37:18am

re: #264 calochortus

So, I’ve been thinking a bit about Ben Carson’s story about the Yale psychology class where the professor told them the final exams had been accidentally burned and they had to take them again, gave all the students a much harder test, and they all walked out except Ben.
Aside from all the painfully obvious problems with the story, I keep asking myself how the professor got that class of 150 students to reassemble after the final. There would be tons of conflicts, some students might have gone home-it would be a massive deal.

Yeah, I know the story is a complete fabrication and all, but it’s such a bad one. You’d think attention to detail would the mark of a brain surgeon, but apparently not.

Something similar happened to people in another class when I was in law school—the prof’s car was stolen and all the blue books from the final (only) exam were in the car. The car was never recovered. I do not remember what happened to the poor sods who had been in the class. All I remember is my relief at it not being *my* class.

Yeah, law school will make you self-centered like that.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:37:32am

re: #310 KGxvi

Maybe it is a kind of shock. As DF said, Woods changed in/around 2001 because of Islamist attacks. Quite honestly many of us did. The difference is that most of us were eventually able to process and accept the events. Some couldn’t. I think this is often the case with cases of shock and/or PTSD. Again, maybe

And its fair to repeat that Woods actually saw some of those terror scum rehearsing their murder plot in the same way as he would rehearse a scene in a movie. That has to mess with a person’s head.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:39:26am

re: #313 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The religious antecedents of these “War on Christmas” wingnuts would have put someone in the stocks for acknowledging Christmas in any way. As late as the Civil War era, many (possibly most) Americans didn’t celebrate Christmas—it was regarded as an exclusively Catholic holiday. It was around then that the observations we know came filtering in from England, but even there they were really brought in by Prince Albert from Germany. Of course a lot of the Christmas “traditions” we think are ancient were created out of whole cloth by Norman Rockwell in the 1930s.

There was a strong streak of Christmas celebration in Anglican/Episcopalian circles too but then that’s how there were English traditions (along with the German ones) to filter over and we always were closer to Rome even when complaining about Papists…

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:39:50am

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

The laws simply don’t keep up with the tech. progress. There must be other ways of dealing with kids just being kids than involving police or courts.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:40:23am

I need to leave soon but I just saw this on CNN. It’s Rand Paul acting like his daddy:

Rand Paul: Clinton, Rubio both ‘neoconservatives’

My Paulian-to-English program translates this as “YERP, MERP, CERP DERP!!1”

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:41:14am

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, to be fair, being a good surgeon requires a great deal of confidence in yourself and your opinion, and doesn’t require that you be at all acquainted with larger reality.

That may be it. But my question sort of remains. Do people have a chance to be separated from reality by their own hand or by physical issues? When we say someone is crazy does it not connote a physical/mental process or can someone just be crazy by allowing themselves to think a certain way, they choose to be eccentric and odd?

Is the fact that Carson is so focused on his mastery of neurosurgery allowing him to forget/not-care-for/ignore reality. And once on that road does it just keep getting deeper and stranger to the point the individual falls into the crazy world.

I’m just fascinated by the Carson character. He is obviously brilliant. But his thinking is crazy when it comes to politics. Many are thinking that. Is he really crazy mentally, sly like a fox and acting this way, or is he just mixed the hell up? And should he even be considered as a legit candidate for a high office due to it all?

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:42:47am

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

And its fair to repeat that Woods actually saw some of those terror scum rehearsing their murder plot in the same way as he would rehearse a scene in a movie. That has to mess with a person’s head.

Is it really any different than rehearsing a mission in the Army was for me? Would he freakout if he’d seen my platoon walking through a building clearing exercise that would have, in real life, killed all non US soldiers in the building? Or would that be OK because they are The Other? I think the man doth protest too much.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:45:32am

re: #311 dholmes32

Well, outside of John Cusack’s teen movie “Better Off Dead,” I never heard of a high school ski team. But the fact still remains, high school are getting KILLED weekly playing football. I don’t hear the same thing about competitive cheerleading or lacrosse.

Nah, it’s a real thing. This was my kids’ public HS. The trick is to have the terrain, obvs.

Sports

The Vernon Township High School Vikings participate in the Northwest Jersey Athletic Conference, following a reorganization of sports leagues in Northern New Jersey by the New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association (NJSIAA).[10][11] With 851 students in grades 10-12, the school was classified by the NJSIAA for the 2014-15 school year as North I, Group III for most athletic competition purposes, which included schools with an enrollment of 754 to 1,076 students in that grade range.[12]

The school had participated in the Sussex County Interscholastic League until the SCIL was dissolved in 2009.[13]

Since the school has begun participating in league sports throughout the county and state, the Vernon Vikings have received numerous awards and championships.
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The girls’ varsity ski team won the 2009 New Jersey Interscholastic Ski Racing Association (NJISRA) overall State Championship.[14]

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:48:08am

re: #321 William Lewis

Is it really any different than rehearsing a mission in the Army was for me? Would he freakout if he’d seen my platoon walking through a building clearing exercise that would have, in real life, killed all non US soldiers in the building? Or would that be OK because they are The Other? I think the man doth protest too much.

It’s different when you see The Other preparing to kill You. You can argue the difference is unreasonable, but that’s an argument that reason seldom wins over emotion and instinct.

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Nyet  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:48:08am

re: #320 ObserverArt

He is obviously brilliant

Not in the intellectual department, that’s for sure.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:51:41am

re: #262 Nyet

If stalking for DNA isn’t against the law, it should probably be.

A person’s genome is considered PHI. CCJ could be potentially invading someone’s privacy by sequencing/assaying their DNA.

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danarchy  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:51:47am

re: #311 dholmes32

Well, outside of John Cusack’s teen movie “Better Off Dead,” I never heard of a high school ski team. But the fact still remains, high school are getting KILLED weekly playing football. I don’t hear the same thing about competitive cheerleading or lacrosse.

weather.com

A lot of high school sports deaths come from heat related illness. Even in football half of fatalities are from heat related and cardiac issues not in game collisions. The rate per 100000 in football is .81 and in lacrosse is .80.

Also I think Teleskiguy mentioned earlier he was on his schools ski team. Obviously there are a lot fewer ski teams just because of proximity to a mountain or ski area.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:51:59am

re: #320 ObserverArt

That may be it. But my question sort of remains. Do people have a chance to be separated from reality by their own hand or by physical issues? When we say someone is crazy does it not connote a physical/mental process or can someone just be crazy by allowing themselves to think a certain way, they choose to be eccentric and odd?

Is the fact that Carson is so focused on his mastery of neurosurgery allowing him to forget/not-care-for/ignore reality. And once on that road does it just keep getting deeper and stranger to the point the individual falls into the crazy world.

I’m just fascinated by the Carson character. He is obviously brilliant. But his thinking is crazy when it comes to politics. Many are thinking that. Is he really crazy mentally, sly like a fox and acting this way, or is he just mixed the hell up? And should he even be considered as a legit candidate for a high office due to it all?

My take on Carson is that he has so far not had the important experience of being very obviously not the smartest person in the room. This combined with his weirdly personal ‘relationship’ with the god he imagines, who arranges lots of things just for Carson’s benefit - the stories of prayers answered are ridiculous, some are actually creepy. If you’ve never encountered someone who’s unquestionably smarter than you are, you tend to assume you’re always right, because you’ve never been successfully challenged on it. I suspect he’s never been in a situation where he said something and had someone else call him on it and successfully and absolutely refute him, so he’s never had to reexamine the things he thinks are true - not just about religion or politics, but about matters of actual fact.

Also probably explains why he gets mad when people question him about shit he says.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:53:03am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

And he obsesses over another Black activist. Notice the thinly veiled, “It’ll be sooner than you think”.

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But the whole “take out Deray” thing that got finally got him kicked off Twitter was absolutely NOT a threat. Nope, not at all, no siree…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:53:49am

When Trump supporters attempt to be sarcastic:

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 9:57:47am

I have to get busy…got some more finish remover to deal with. I was wondering if any of the Lizard crew watched The Donald™ on SNL last night? What was you’re take on it all? I read the overnight comments, just wondering if there are any others. I didn’t see it.

Lurk mode on…

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:17:21am

re: #274 allegro

I’ve asked those questions as well. What I see as most ridiculous is all students walking out on a final exam. They’re going to blow off a semester of work and trash their GPAs? All of them? No way.

I presume there is nothing about that event in the Yale student paper either. So, 150-or-so students got massively manipulated and none of them said anything that made it out through the student network and eventually into a student publication, or at least the local social media in that time period. There would be traces, especially of the “Avoid this class, the prof is a total dick!” type.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:19:04am
Sure Chuck, all over your face.
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Jenner7  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:21:01am

So I hear Trump was awful on SNL last night and that Larry David called him a racist (though it was all planned beforehand). Glad I didn’t watch. I watched Survivorman instead.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:21:55am

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

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Would it be a bad time to say: “So does yo’ Mama!”?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:24:55am

re: #332 goddamnedfrank

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Totally not creepy.

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Lidane  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:26:32am

re: #319 Dark_Falcon

I need to leave soon but I just saw this on CNN. It’s Rand Paul acting like his daddy:

Rand Paul: Clinton, Rubio both ‘neoconservatives’

My Paulian-to-English program translates this as “YERP, MERP, CERP DERP!!1”

Well, it’s demonstrably true about Rubio. His campaign slogan is A New American Century, for fuck’s sake. It’s not an accident that he’s parroting the same PNAC garbage that’s had us at war for well over a decade now.

Clinton isn’t a neocon.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:27:25am

re: #333 Jenner7

Saturday nite TV was so bad last nite that we ended up power watching a week’s worth of “The Late Show” w/ Steven Colbert…..

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:28:19am

re: #311 dholmes32

Well, outside of John Cusack’s teen movie “Better Off Dead,” I never heard of a high school ski team. But the fact still remains, high school are getting KILLED weekly playing football. I don’t hear the same thing about competitive cheerleading or lacrosse.

High school I went to in northern New York state had both alpine and nordic ski teams. They eliminated the latter between my sister’s attending high school and my attending. I was on the nordic team for three years and they eliminated it at the end of my senior year. My sister did both alpine and nordic. My brother and I did nordic only.

Issue leading to the team being cut was the cost of the bus to transport us to meets since we supplied our own skis and did a fundraiser for our team jackets and hats. And by the last year we were sharing buses with other teams, and due to insurance reasons banned from transporting skis on the bus. Our coach had to drive behind us at her own expense to carry the skis in her vehicle.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:30:29am

re: #320 ObserverArt

I’m just fascinated by the Carson character. He is obviously brilliant. But his thinking is crazy when it comes to politics.

I will snarkily say “assumes facts not in evidence” based on his “doctorly” understanding of addiction:

“As a doctor, what’s your sense of the human side of addiction?” Dickerson wondered. “Where does it come from, how should it best be treated?”

“Usually addiction occurs in people who are vulnerable, who are lacking something in their lives,” Carson opined. “And so, we have to really start asking ourselves, what have we taken out of our lives in America, what is some of those values and principles that allowed us to ascend the latter (sic) of success so rapidly to the very pinnacle of the world, and the highest pinnacle that anyone else had ever reached.”

Not only is the answer non-responsive to the question, it is totally idiotic, as are most of Dr. Ben’s responses to most questions, regardless of the topic.

the National Institute on Drug Abuse, which defines addiction as “a chronic, relapsing brain disease that is characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use, despite harmful consequences.”

“Addiction is a lot like other diseases, such as heart disease. Both disrupt the normal, healthy functioning of the underlying organ, have serious harmful consequences, and are preventable and treatable, but if left untreated, can last a lifetime,” according to the NIH. “Scientists estimate that genetic factors account for between 40 and 60 percent of a person’s vulnerability to addiction; this includes the effects of environmental factors on the function and expression of a person’s genes.”

Hey, who are those scientists at the NIH to argue with Ben god-botherer Carson? I think his “brilliance” is amazingly narrow-cast into one extremely specific skill set that does not translate into any other area. YMMV.

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retired cynic  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:33:00am

re: #339 BeachDem

I just looked at all of these, many of which I had not heard. Good Grief, Charlie Brown, this guy is totally off the planet:

mediaite.com

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sagehen  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:37:25am

re: #333 Jenner7

So I hear Trump was awful on SNL last night and that Larry David called him a racist (though it was all planned beforehand). Glad I didn’t watch. I watched Survivorman instead.

He was competent; it’s the writers who didn’t come up with a sufficient quantity of good material.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:39:44am

“Stop picking on Dr. Carson!!”
—DNC

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:42:21am

re: #341 sagehen

He was competent; it’s the writers who didn’t come up with a sufficient quantity of good material.

I wonder if that was on purpose…

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Jenner7  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:42:39am

re: #341 sagehen

The last time I really laughed watching SNL was when Will Ferrell was there. Oh, I did really like when Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake did the Beegee bits.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:45:04am

re: #344 Jenner7

The last time I really laughed watching SNL was when Will Ferrell was there. Oh, I did really like when Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake did the Beegee bits.

Last time I enjoyed it Scred was on.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:46:39am

re: #345 Decatur Deb

Last time I enjoyed it Scred was on.

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When dinosaurs roamed the Earth!

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:48:08am

re: #345 Decatur Deb

I think Kate McKinnon is really funny doing her impression of inhumanly ambitious Hillary.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:50:34am

re: #347 jaunte

I think Kate McKinnon is really funny doing her impression of inhumanly ambitious Hillary.

“The lives of many men are shorter than the time since last I watched SNL.”
—Du Fu

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:54:47am

re: #348 Decatur Deb

“The lives of many men are shorter than the time since last I watched SNL.”
—Du Fu

I stuck with them through three peaks and some pretty deep valleys, especially the ‘81-‘84 calamity. They finally lost me about the turn of the century—just a generation thing, I guess.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:55:42am

Award winning right wing journalism.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:56:59am

re: #349 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I stuck with them through three peaks and some pretty deep valleys, especially the ‘81-‘84 calamity. They finally lost me about the turn of the century—just a generation thing, I guess.

If they’re too cool for bees and Muppets, fuck ‘em.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:57:54am

beesbeesbees.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:58:18am

re: #351 Decatur Deb

If they’re too cool for bees and Muppets, fuck ‘em.

I’d use Skred to wash my car if it meant we could still have Gilda with us, though….

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2015 • 10:58:42am

I tried to figure out what was going on with the latest Shaun King uproar, but there’s so much right wing derp out there I can’t make any sense of it. I don’t see anyone offering proof that he “scammed” people, just lots and lots of wild unsourced accusations.

I’m not really a fan of King; I think he plays fast and loose with facts sometimes and jumps to unwarranted conclusions. But this looks like another right wing character assassination job.

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sagehen  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:01:42am

re: #344 Jenner7

The last time I really laughed watching SNL was when Will Ferrell was there. Oh, I did really like when Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake did the Beegee bits.

The best episodes are when the guest host does a lot of his own writing. Louis CK, Amy Schumer, Chris Rock. Or when it’s an actor whose roles lend themselves easily to parodies — Martin Freeman, Dwayne Johnson, Woody Harrelson. The politics episodes only click when they’ve got a debate to play off.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:06:01am

re: #355 sagehen

The best episodes are when the guest host does a lot of his own writing. Louis CK, Amy Schumer, Chris Rock. Or when it’s an actor whose roles lend themselves easily to parodies — Martin Freeman, Dwayne Johnson, Woody Harrelson. The politics episodes only click when they’ve got a debate to play off.

One of my favourite SNL bits of the last several years or so was Dwayne Johnson and Fred Armisen as servers in a Hawaiian restaurant. They mercilessly mocked the customers who were all variations on the “dumb American” tourist stereotype.

I love comedy-satire when its done well.

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dholmes32  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:06:54am

re: #350 Charles Johnson

Award winning right wing journalism.

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What a horrible, horrible person. But we knew that already.

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Jenner7  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:09:20am

re: #354 Charles Johnson

His organization, Justice Together, had a 50 state plan to set up shop in all 50 states. It turns out that’s hard to do because he had to deal with trolls who wouldn’t verify their identity. So, he’s going to do one state at a time now, starting in Georgia. Some of the state directors got pissed and there were questions as to the donations to the org and where they went. DeRay was on the board and he tweeted that he stepped down. Then the regular accusations of stealing money came up again.

That’s the gist of it.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:09:22am
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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:11:32am

re: #339 BeachDem

I will snarkily say “assumes facts not in evidence” based on his “doctorly” understanding of addiction:

“As a doctor, what’s your sense of the human side of addiction?” Dickerson wondered. “Where does it come from, how should it best be treated?”

“Usually addiction occurs in people who are vulnerable, who are lacking something in their lives,” Carson opined. “And so, we have to really start asking ourselves, what have we taken out of our lives in America, what is some of those values and principles that allowed us to ascend the latter (sic) of success so rapidly to the very pinnacle of the world, and the highest pinnacle that anyone else had ever reached.”

Not only is the answer non-responsive to the question, it is totally idiotic, as are most of Dr. Ben’s responses to most questions, regardless of the topic.

the National Institute on Drug Abuse, which defines addiction as “a chronic, relapsing brain disease that is characterized by compulsive drug seeking and use, despite harmful consequences.”

“Addiction is a lot like other diseases, such as heart disease. Both disrupt the normal, healthy functioning of the underlying organ, have serious harmful consequences, and are preventable and treatable, but if left untreated, can last a lifetime,” according to the NIH. “Scientists estimate that genetic factors account for between 40 and 60 percent of a person’s vulnerability to addiction; this includes the effects of environmental factors on the function and expression of a person’s genes.”

Hey, who are those scientists at the NIH to argue with Ben god-botherer Carson? I think his “brilliance” is amazingly narrow-cast into one extremely specific skill set that does not translate into any other area. YMMV.

When I used the word brilliant I wasn’t clear. I should have modified it with “in his field.”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:15:12am

re: #1 Belafon

As I mentioned in the previous thread, the About link at the top doesn’t go anywhere.

Thanks for letting me know! Fixed now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:17:21am

Charles, was it really all the venom spewing at Obama back in 07/08 that triggered your drift away from the right wing or did it start before that?

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:18:02am

re: #359 Charles Johnson

She needs to contemplate the whole plank in your own eye thing first (Matthew 7:3 after googling).

A simple test for Becky: How many investigations into the 60 diplomats that died under Bush should be conducted?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:22:43am

re: #361 Charles Johnson

Thanks for letting me know! Fixed now.

Was it stealing our socks like we theorized???

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:24:33am

re: #358 Jenner7

His organization, Justice Together, had a 50 state plan to set up shop in all 50 states. It turns out that’s hard to do because he had to deal with trolls who wouldn’t verify their identity. So, he’s going to do one state at a time now, starting in Georgia. Some of the state directors got pissed and there were questions as to the donations to the org and where they went. DeRay was on the board and he tweeted that he stepped down. Then the regular accusations of stealing money came up again.

That’s the gist of it.

How were the trolls messing things up?

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:25:15am

So it looks like Cam Newton might actually be pretty good at football, even with bad receivers.

Also, tangentially related… What in the ever loving hell is that thing on Joe Buck’s face?

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:26:48am

re: #350 Charles Johnson

Award winning right wing journalism.

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Does that sort of wish for a suicide belie his protesting that he got kicked off of Twitter for wanting someone “taken out” and he didn’t mean killed?

I suppose in this case suggesting suicide doesn’t really mean he actually want death. It was probably something like career suicide. Yeah. That’s it!

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:34:08am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Does that sort of wish for a suicide belie his protesting that he got kicked off of Twitter for wanting someone “taken out” and he didn’t mean killed?

I suppose in this case suggesting suicide doesn’t really mean he actually want death. It was probably something like career suicide. Yeah. That’s it!

UpChuck made that ‘suicide’ remark as a way of spewing his hateful bile at Shaun King without saying something that he thought could be called “threatening”. He might still be vulnerable for telling someone to kill himself, but I don’t know if Facebook considers that a Terms of Use violation (they should).

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:35:32am

re: #366 KGxvi

So it looks like Cam Newton might actually be pretty good at football, even with bad receivers.

Also, tangentially related… What in the ever loving hell is that thing on Joe Buck’s face?

I have that on as background noise. What has happened to the vaunted Packers? It looks like they are falling away from the heights of being unbeaten and one of the teams to consider for playoffs/championships.

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Jenner7  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:36:28am

re: #365 Dark_Falcon

I assume by signing up just to screw with him and his org. Here’s his explanation:

facebook.com

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:36:42am

re: #362 Eclectic Cyborg

Charles, was it really all the venom spewing at Obama back in 07/08 that triggered your drift away from the right wing or did it start before that?

It started before that, with the “counter-jihad” crowd hooking up with neo-Nazis and fascists, the acceptance of racists by right wing media and blogs, and when I realized how widespread the anti-science craziness was on the right, with creationism and climate change denial (among other things).

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:37:58am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:39:00am

re: #263 makeitstop

This weekend’s local wingnut freakout - the Roosevelt Field shopping mall put up their Santa display (called ‘The Glacier Experience’ for some reason), and didn’t include a Christmas tree.

Everybody on Facebook was all ZOMG boycott boycott BOYCOTT BOYCOTT!!!11ty! The mall caved and added Christmas trees, but people are still bitching about it this morning.

I swear, our society lives for things to be pissed off about. Go find a fucking mall that has a Christmas tree and shop there and shut the fuck up already.

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG TEH WAR ON CHRISSMUSS!!!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:40:13am

Here’s what Bernie Sanders actually wrote about 40 years ago: Bernie Sanders’s Revolutionary Roots Were Nurtured in ’60s Vermont - the New York Times

Mr. Sanders’s articles in The Freeman were consistent with the newspaper’s ethos. The paper, which had humble production values and cost $10 for a year’s subscription in 1971, was founded in 1969 by Roger L. Albright, a former minister, as a place for like-minded leftists to opine in outraged tones about the issues of the day. Often, apparently, they did it for free.

“Pay? You’ve got to be kidding — I don’t recall ever getting paid,” said Marvin Fishman, now 77, who wrote about prison issues for the paper. (He had spent a year in prison on a marijuana charge.)

“We were broke, they were broke, everybody was broke,” said Frank Kochman, who was recruited for the paper when Mr. Albright rescued his stranded Volkswagen bug from a snowbank, and who was its general manager and co-publisher from 1971 to 1973. “If we had a little money, we’d try to pay something.”

Mr. Sanders contributed only sporadically. He interviewed a “labor agitator” and an old-time farmer, and he wrote some articles about health, including one in which he cited studies claiming that cancer could be caused by psychological factors such as unresolved hostility toward one’s mother, a tendency to bury aggression beneath a “facade of pleasantness” and having too few orgasms.

“Sexual adjustment seemed to be very poor in those with cancer of the cervix,” he wrote, quoting a study in a journal called Psychosomatic Medicine.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:40:29am

re: #369 ObserverArt

Four of the Packers’ wins are against the Bears, the 49ers, the Chiefs, and the Chargers… None of those teams are particularly good this year. They also beat the Seahawks and Rams at home. Seattle was struggling early and I don’t believe in the Rams at all. In other words, I’m not sure Green Bay has really played many good teams until last week and now this week.

All that said, Carolina’s receiving corps is terrible and I’m still not sure how they’re about to be 8-0

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CuriousLurker  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:43:14am

Drive-by comment, for anyone who’s interested: A new Israeli documentary, featuring recordings (made by one of my favorite authors, Amos Oz) of interviews with IDF soldiers immediately following the Six Day War and how prescient many of their thoughts were.

Censored Voices - Official Trailer

Censored Voices Director Mor Loushy Interview

Censored Voices Q&A, Opening Night (11.5.15)

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:43:18am

re: #283 Lidane

If she thinks it’s one-sided she’s not paying attention.

reuters.com

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:44:15am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

I’ve actually been impressed by some of the Christian push back I’ve seen on this… Mostly along the lines of “if this threatens your faith you’ve got bigger problems.” Personally, I think if you’re going to Starbucks for good coffee you need to reevaluate your life choices

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:44:51am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG TEH WAR ON CHRISSMUSS!!!!!!

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That’s funny, because I didn’t see any crosses, mangers, or baby Jesus images on the previous style of Starbucks cup.

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dholmes32  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:45:27am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG TEH WAR ON CHRISSMUSS!!!!!!

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There’s a jackass named Joshua Feuerstein who lives over in Scottsdale. He posts videos to Facebook and he *really* went off on Starbucks’ new cups. Complete with brandishing a gun. I wish I was lying. Oh yeah, Feuerstein used to be pastor of a church. He’s a complete piece of work.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:46:13am

re: #368 Dark_Falcon

UpChuck made that ‘suicide’ remark as a way of spewing his hateful bile at Shaun King without saying something that he thought could be called “threatening”. He might still be vulnerable for telling someone to kill himself, but I don’t know if Facebook considers that a Terms of Use violation (they should).

And lets not forget he has a gun and he is showing and has shown his wish for violence. The dude has some troubling characteristics. He could be a main character in a book about some kind of stalker-killer type, like a Hinckley or Chapman.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:48:18am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG TEH WAR ON CHRISSMUSS!!!!!!

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Red cups = Christian culture cleansing? They keep tilting toward the Marxist Zionist conspiracy theory thing. I’m seeing it more & more.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:52:29am

re: #377 Romantic Heretic

If she thinks it’s one-sided she’s not paying attention.

reuters.com

That video was fairly neutral, though in focusing on how many times the old woman was shot the reporter did not add what I feel is needed context about how quickly modern self-loading rifles fire. Especially since these were full-auto capable rifles, and at that setting can fire 30 rounds in less than 3 seconds. But overall the piece was good.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:54:34am

re: #360 ObserverArt

When I used the word brilliant I wasn’t clear. I should have modified it with “in his field.”

And I say his field is a lot narrower than “medicine” or “brains.” To misquote Fred Allen—his mindset is so narrow that if he fell on a pin, it would blind him in both eyes.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:54:56am

re: #380 dholmes32

There’s a jackass named Joshua Feuerstein who lives over in Scottsdale. He posts videos to Facebook and he *really* went off on Starbucks’ new cups. Complete with brandishing a gun. I wish I was lying. Oh yeah, Feuerstein used to be pastor of a church. He’s a complete piece of work.

Who the fuck does he think he is, the Grand Inquisitor?

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:56:06am

re: #373 The Vicious Babushka

Starbucks Red Cups Also Emblematic Of ‘Less Is More’ Trend In Graphic Design

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:56:51am

oy vey these fundies are really off the mark.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:58:58am

re: #386 jaunte

Starbucks Red Cups Also Emblematic Of ‘Less Is More’ Trend In Graphic Design

Or websites.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 11:59:03am

re: #380 dholmes32

There’s a jackass named Joshua Feuerstein who lives over in Scottsdale. He posts videos to Facebook and he *really* went off on Starbucks’ new cups. Complete with brandishing a gun. I wish I was lying. Oh yeah, Feuerstein used to be pastor of a church. He’s a complete piece of work.

Lessee: Red is the Commie color and green is the color of Islam, so the traditional red-and-green Christmas livery is symbolic of Islamo-Communism? Except anybody who doesn’t display it from Halloween to New Years is also an Islamo-Commie? I’m very confused now….

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:00:44pm

re: #389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Lessee: Red is the Commie color and green is the color of Islam, so the traditional red-and-green Christmas livery is symbolic of Islamo-Communism? Except anybody who doesn’t display it from Halloween to New Years is also an Islamo-Commie? I’m very confused now….

You have your holiday colors wrong. It goes like this: White is the color of good Christian people, and if you’re not green with envy (or money), then there’ll be some red blood spilled.

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The War TARDIS  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:01:24pm

Ok, so apparently, there is a very good chance that their are hidden chambers in Tutankhamun’s Tomb.

So, how are they going to get there?

Because the doors to it seem to be from the Burial Chamber. The one decorated room in the tomb. Also, where the (very fragile) mummy and his coffin are.

In fact, it specifically mentions the North side, which is in the picture below, on the left hand side. The one with the monkeys.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:03:14pm

re: #369 ObserverArt

I have that on as background noise. What has happened to the vaunted Packers? It looks like they are falling away from the heights of being unbeaten and one of the teams to consider for playoffs/championships.

When Rodgers has a bad day or is injured their utterly incompetent coach and GM have no clue what to do. They then lose, usually badly. Is that happening again today?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:03:37pm

re: #391 The War TARDIS

I wonder if technology has progressed enough for them to be able to remove the whole wall without damaging it?

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The War TARDIS  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:04:30pm

re: #391 The War TARDIS

Although, that could be really smart on the part of the Egyptians. Hide one person in the tomb of another. Though, right now, Tutankhamen’s family situation is murky.

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WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:05:35pm

Bad lip reading…Guinea pig style.

mashable.com

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:07:06pm

re: #391 The War TARDIS

Ok, so apparently, there is a very good chance that their are hidden chambers in Tutankhamun’s Tomb.

So, how are they going to get there?

Because the doors to it seem to be from the Burial Chamber. The one decorated room in the tomb. Also, where the (very fragile) mummy and his coffin are.

In fact, it specifically mentions the North side, which is in the picture below, on the left hand side. The one with the monkeys.

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Blasphemy, that’s what that wall is! I didn’t come from no monkey!!1

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:07:26pm

re: #391 The War TARDIS

Ok, so apparently, there is a very good chance that their are hidden chambers in Tutankhamun’s Tomb.

So, how are they going to get there?

Because the doors to it seem to be from the Burial Chamber. The one decorated room in the tomb. Also, where the (very fragile) mummy and his coffin are.

In fact, it specifically mentions the North side, which is in the picture below, on the left hand side. The one with the monkeys.

Embedded Image

I’d suggest tunnelling from a different direction or trying to remove the whole wall intact.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:11:01pm

re: #391 The War TARDIS

Ok, so apparently, there is a very good chance that their are hidden chambers in Tutankhamun’s Tomb.

So, how are they going to get there?

Because the doors to it seem to be from the Burial Chamber. The one decorated room in the tomb. Also, where the (very fragile) mummy and his coffin are.

In fact, it specifically mentions the North side, which is in the picture below, on the left hand side. The one with the monkeys.

[Embedded content]

They haven’t tried ground-penetrating sonar? If that doesn’t show an empty volume, it’s not there. I don’t know what kind of infrared signature would tell you anything. If there is another chamber there, they’d need to tunnel from the outside—destroying the existing burial chamber to enter something that would probably wind up like Al Capone’s vault is inconceivable.

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The War TARDIS  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:11:48pm

re: #393 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s what I am wondering too. Give credit to the Egyptians, they knew how to hide things.

Problem with King Tut’s family.

We found his mummy, and two stillborn in his tomb. An unidentified mummy (Younger Lady of KV21) was found to be the mother of the stillborn, and a partial mummy/skeleton in KV55 was found to likely be Tut’s father. However, history says Tut and Ankhesenamun were half-brother and sister, but Younger Lady of KV21 is definitely NOT the daughter of KV55, which should be Akhenaten.

So either A) There is another wife of Tut that we are not aware of, or B) Tut had a different father, as we are definitely sure that Ankhesenamun was Akhenaten’s daughter.

Which would raise a really good question. Who is in KV55. I do feel it definite that Akhenaten’s Mummy was destroyed long ago.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:13:36pm

re: #397 William Lewis

I’d suggest tunnelling from a different direction or trying to remove the whole wall intact.

I’d suggest doing any earthmoving with dozer-blade equipped M1A1s. Any major activity in the Valley of the Kings is going to be a major target for Daesh (IS).

/Not kidding.

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The War TARDIS  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:15:40pm

re: #398 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here is a layout of the tomb.

Room 5 was a room where stuff was haphazardly shoved into with little care, and was undecorated.

Dig in from there? Though, look at the map, my directions were of, the right wall is the one with an anomaly. Though, they mentioned 2 anomalies. Both walls?

Room 1 is also undecorated.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:20:49pm

re: #401 The War TARDIS

Here is a layout of the tomb.

[Embedded content]

Room 5 was a room where stuff was haphazardly shoved into with little care, and was undecorated.

Dig in from there? Though, look at the map, my directions were of, the right wall is the one with an anomaly. Though, they mentioned 2 anomalies. Both walls?

Room 1 is also undecorated.

[Kevin Nealon] Never mind, I don’t know what I’m talking about! [/Kevin Nealon] These days they could drill a very small hole and send a fiber-optic cable into the suspected volume and get a picture.

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Alephnaught  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:22:09pm

re: #280 Kid A

Nice shot!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:25:08pm

re: #7 Ace-o-aces

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Jesus was a Klingon?

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:25:29pm

re: #392 William Lewis

When Rodgers has a bad day or is injured their utterly incompetent coach and GM have no clue what to do. They then lose, usually badly. Is that happening again today?

30-14 Carolina with 2 minutes to go in the third quarter.

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dholmes32  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:26:28pm

re: #386 jaunte

I thought they reminded me of red plastic Solo cups. You know, the ones beloved of frat parties.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:36:06pm

re: #405 ObserverArt

30-14 Carolina with 2 minutes to go in the third quarter.

Ah. Sounds like the “bad day” scenario and MM is in over his head. Again. Him & TT are one small reason I stopped watching American Football (the thugs like Greg Hardy & Adrian Peterson did me in for real).

Alas, my Arsenal isn’t playing too well right now.

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KGxvi  Nov 8, 2015 • 12:38:44pm

re: #398 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thermal imaging so far. GPR would likely be next. If there is a room there, the question is what’s inside: Nefertiti? Aliens? Grain?

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The War TARDIS  Nov 8, 2015 • 1:02:35pm

re: #408 KGxvi

Who the hell knows. Nefertiti would seem unlikely.She was unusually powerful, and created Atenism as much as Akhenaten did. Would have to imagine that her mummy was destroyed.

His wife died after he did, and we likely found her mummy in KV21 Younger Lady. And we have found the mummy’s of his mom and dad. Even if we don’t know who they are. I think Tut was not Akhenaten’s son, but Smenkhkare’s. And that Smenkhkare was brother to Akhenaten, and not the son. If you go with the longest possible lifespan of the body in KV55, it would fit that idea, and would explain why both Tut and Ankhesenamun were called King’s Son/Daughter, but them not being brother and sister. Because they would be the children of the king, just 2 different ones.

I wonder who else would be left?


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