Wednesday Night Podcast: The Bubble Genius Bob & Chez Show, 11/10/15

Featuring Jesus in a bathrobe
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Here’s the program for tonight’s episode of The Bubble Genius Bob & Chez Show, featuring an extremely creepy painting of Ben Carson hanging out with Jesus in a bathrobe:

Jetpacks Made Of Beef: We Preview the GOP Fox Business Debate; Ben Carson in Full Meltdown; Ben Carson’s Press Conference Freakout; The GOP are Bullies Turned Victims; The Complete List of Ben Carson Lies; Ben Carson’s Weird Jesus Painting; Hugh Hewitt versus Joe Scarborough; Starbucks Cups and the War on Christmas; and much more.

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522 comments
1
Bubblehead II  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:18:11pm

Re-post from downstairs. Night Lizards.

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retired cynic  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:24:02pm

I think it was someone on here who said it looked like Jesus parted his head in the middle. I just about lost a keyboard.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:27:44pm

Has anyone else seen this iPad-related problem reported today through the contact form?

Was wondering if anybody else has has a problem signing in?
Prompt window comes up, but when you try to enter text, the window goes
away.

Doesn’t happen on an iPhone, only on iPad. I don’t have an iPad but it works fine on the Xcode iPad simulator.

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Kragar  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:29:06pm

Whoever decided to make it so you can’t turn off the automatic updates on Windows 10 should be drawn and quartered.

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Jay C  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:36:00pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Has anyone else seen this iPad-related problem reported today through the contact form?

Doesn’t happen on an iPhone, only on iPad. I don’t have an iPad but it works fine on the Xcode iPad simulator.

Yes: happens to me every so often - hitting the “Sign In” at the top brings up the little box, but as soon as I try to enter, the box vanishes. Works OK for the sign-in at the bottom by the comment box, however : and yeah, only on my IPad.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:36:27pm

re: #4 Kragar

Whoever decided to make it so you can’t turn off the automatic updates on Windows 10 should be drawn and quartered.

Automatic updates are Satan’s henchmen.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:37:45pm

re: #5 Jay C

Hmm. All righty then.

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Kragar  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:41:19pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Automatic updates are Satan’s henchmen.

“Why the hell is my game lagging so god damn badly?”

“Windows has downloaded and installed a patch for software you never fucking use, would you like to reboot now or do you want us to reboot at random?”

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 7:59:44pm

Not to add to the issues Charles. But. When I log on on my android phone the window shows the front page & usually I hit the button of comments to get to the comment thread. It hasn’t worked (no reaction, a null click?) for the last several days. My work around is when you hover over the last comment, I select that, then I’m at the bottom of the tread. I hope this makes sense.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:01:20pm

re: #2 retired cynic

I think it was someone on here who said it looked like Jesus parted his head in the middle. I just about lost a keyboard.

Ben performed emergency life-saving brain surgery in Jesus and saved his life.

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Kragar  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:02:17pm

From Chuck’s FB:

Charles C. Johnson
11 hrs *

Greetings from Bend, OR.

Off to LA, then San Diego, then back again to Fresno, then off again to San Francisco, then back home at last.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:02:30pm

Well, I just had Dune added to my kindle collection on my tablet, it has a full charge, and I’m off to bed.

Catch you all later.

RBS

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:03:37pm

re: #4 Kragar

If you are running any version other than Windows 10 Home Edition, you can turn off automatic updates via the Group Policy - this is in place because network admins in a domain environment want absolute control over what updates get installed and when.

To access - access run window via Windows key +R
Type in gpedit.msc in the run dialog - press Enter - this will launch the Group Policy editor

Under Local Computer Policy, navigate to the following:
Computer Configuration >Administrative Templates >Windows Components>Windows Update
Double-click on “Configure Automatic Updates” on the righthand pane and it will open an editor that allows you to customize your update settings.

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Kragar  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:05:20pm

re: #13 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Take a wild guess as to which edition I happen to be using.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:05:24pm

Oh, by the way I ate Thai chicken larb for dinner


Divine.

And purchased Green Curry & rice for my microwave future.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:06:04pm

Meanwhile, this happened. Got some nice helo drop shots of a fire up in Long Canyon, about a mile from my place.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:06:13pm

re: #4 Kragar

Whoever decided to make it so you can’t turn off the automatic updates on Windows 10 should be drawn and quartered.

I will never upgrade to 10. Simple updates cause all kinds of unexpected changes, so I figure an overhaul of my system would be disastrous. If I bought a new system that had it loaded, no problem. I just think that if my system works, don’t fix it.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:07:21pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

Meanwhile, this happened. Got some nice helo drop shots of a fire up in Long Canyon, about a mile from my place.

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More fire. ?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:07:27pm

Jesus has hands like Dr. J.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:08:01pm

re: #18 Stanley Sea Toujours

More fire. ?

Of course, ‘cuz fuckin’ California.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:08:50pm

re: #19 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Jesus has hands like Dr. J.

Jesus has a sweet finger roll.

RBS

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:09:35pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

Of course, ‘cuz fuckin’ California.

nothing here. that I’m aware of.

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:10:39pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

And you have a Masters degree in photography? You’re a hack!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:12:17pm

Part of me really wants to buy an iPad Pro.

Then another part of me says that’s dumb because I don’t really need it.

Then the first part of me calls the second part a communist dill-suck that wants to let the terrorists win.

So conflicted.

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retired cynic  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:12:41pm

The wind is trying to tear the house apart. Branches crashing everywhere. Sheesh!

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:13:18pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

buy it.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:13:47pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea Toujours

buy it.

it’s really that simple Frank.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:14:37pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

What are you gonna do with it?

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:16:49pm

re: #14 Kragar

Take a wild guess as to which edition I happen to be using.

There’s a registry hack that will let you defer installation of updates for Home edition users, but unless you are really comfortable going that far under the hood, I wouldn’t recommend it. I’ve never been a fan of Microsoft doing entry-level (Home edition) versions of their operating systems - they either don’t include or simply disable too many tools that allow tweaking of necessary basic functions.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:21:41pm

re: #28 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

What are you gonna do with it?

Porn.

Actually I’m hoping that Adobe integrates the Pencil into Photoshop. I’m not much of a graphic designer and don’t have a Cintiq. I used to use a Wacom tablet a long time ago and liked it but would like a portable way to draw PS manipulations directly onto images. It’s super overkill for what I tend to do though.

Also It’d be nice for looking at documentation while I learn to code.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:21:58pm

I just put a pizza in the oven.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:23:33pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea Toujours

Not to add to the issues Charles. But. When I log on on my android phone the window shows the front page & usually I hit the button of comments to get to the comment thread. It hasn’t worked (no reaction, a null click?) for the last several days. My work around is when you hover over the last comment, I select that, then I’m at the bottom of the tread. I hope this makes sense.

On touch screens, there’s no real “hover” option, because you have to tap to select something. So I programmed it to pop up the last comment when you tap the button the first time, so you can see who posted the last comment and when. Then you can tap the commenter’s name to go into the thread.

The other way to approach this would be to not have the last comment show at all, but go directly to the top of the thread when you tap the button. I thought it was better to show the last comment posted so you can tell whether there’s something new in there that you want to read.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:26:38pm

Last thread had the video for Alice In Chain’s “Rooster” as a song/video connecting to a war or veteran theme. A couple other’s that cover that sort of thing for other wars:

Metallica’a “One” using pieces from the film “Johnny Got His Gun” (WW1)
Link

User made video using “Saving Private Ryan” clips matched to Iron Maiden’s “The Longest Day. (WW2)
Link

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:38:37pm

re: #11 Kragar

From Chuck’s FB:

He sure gets around for someone with no visible income.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:39:28pm

re: #34 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He sure gets around for someone with no visible income.

Ah, but that’s what rubes are for!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:40:06pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:46:47pm

re: #31 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I just put a pizza in the oven.

F u

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:49:52pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea Toujours

My condo still smells like fire,

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:50:09pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea Toujours

F u

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:51:08pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea Toujours

My condo still smells like fire,

Well, it could’ve been worse.
/brightside?

And you get to deal with my trolling?
/brighterside?

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:55:22pm

re: #40 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Well, it could’ve been worse.
/brightside?

And you get to deal with my trolling?
/brighterside?

Always xxxooooo. Ima going to hit my sweet sheets.

Nighty.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:58:14pm

Off to bed as well. I leave the Lizards with this image to contemplate.

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 8:59:24pm

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Alta Utah Rope Tow Wedgie

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:00:32pm

Good night.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:00:37pm

That first shot was taken at ISO 12800 BTW. Second one at 6400. It was dark and the only light came from the fire. Despeckle got rid of most of the noise tho’. I never shoot that high so I was kind of amazed they didn’t come out looking like complete dogshit.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:07:17pm
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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:44:37pm

re: #44 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Good night.

[Embedded content]

The correct answer is “Why should you care? Whoever did it just saved enough state pension money to guarantee you whole shift’s pensions for 2 years and the bomber saved enough federal dollars to buy an F-35 and two 30mm armed Strykers!”

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freetoken  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:52:45pm
… featuring an extremely creepy painting of Ben Carson hanging out with Jesus in a bathrobe.

As noted by others, a Klingon-human admixed Je$u$ to boot.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:54:39pm

And we have a new contender for biggest asshole of the week, and he puts Ben Carson in the shade, with only Donald Trump being anywhere close to him:

Sandy Hook ‘truther’ arrested after confronting victim’s younger sister at a race to say deadly shooting was ‘staged’ and that her hero sister never even existed

Matthew Mills, 32, was arrested Saturday after getting into a confrontation with a Sandy Hook victim’s family
The Brooklyn man ran in the Vicki Soto 5K run in Stratford, Connecticut and confronted the namesake’s younger sister at the end of the race
Vicki Soto was a heroic first-grade teacher who gave her life trying to protect her students from crazed gunman Adam Lanza
Police say Mills told the family the shooting was ‘staged’; he claims he just ‘politely’ asked a question
Mills was charged with trespassing and posted $10k bail after being booked; he is set to appear in court later this month

And the fucker has the unmitigated gall to trot out the “I’m just asking questions” line. Matthew Mills should be force-fed a bag of dicks.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:55:43pm

re: #48 freetoken

As noted by others, a Klingon-human admixed Je$u$ to boot.

Does that mean Ben Carson has access to a clocking device?

:D

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 9:57:17pm

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

I don’t believe in heaven or hell, but I wish there were a hellbound afterlife for fucks like these. Disgusting.

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TedStriker  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:01:16pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

I don’t believe in heaven or hell, but I wish there were a hellbound afterlife for fucks like these. Disgusting.

To borrow a line from Slim Pickens from Blazing Saddles, assholes like Mills need to get caught in a tractor’s nuts.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:04:14pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

I don’t believe in heaven or hell, but I wish there were a hellbound afterlife for fucks like these. Disgusting.

They’re emotional predators, trying to inflict the most harm with the least consequence. They select their victims pretty carefully, no doubt, but I won’t be surprised if one of them ends up dead.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:05:13pm

re: #52 TedStriker

To borrow a line from Slim Pickens from Blazing Saddles, assholes like Mills need to get caught in a tractor’s nuts.

Yeah, but he’d do just fine as part of Hedley’s Lamar’s band of thugs.

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:07:19pm

Just sayin’.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:08:36pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Just sayin’.

[Embedded content]

SMACK!

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:14:19pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:15:10pm

Meanwhile, Poland’s new Defense Minister is apparently a conspiracy nutjob.

Poland’s newly appointed defence minister has been condemned for entertaining the possibility that a fraudulent document claiming to show there is a Jewish plan for world domination may be real.

Now, if you’re thinking “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, you’d be 100% correct!

Macierewicz told listeners to Radio Maryja in 2002 that he had read Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a pamphlet that purports to be a Jewish plan to control the global economy and media, but which has been exposed as a hoax.

He acknowledged there was debate about the pamphlet’s authenticity, but told a listener: “Experience shows that there are such groups in Jewish circles.”

And that’s not all….

In the early 1990s, he led a search for communists among former Solidarity leaders, accusing them of having worked for the secret police. He even accused the union’s founder, Lech Wałęsa, of being a spy known as Agent Bolek, but his claims could not be proven.

More recently, he has been the main champion of a theory that a plane crash that killed 96 Poles in 2010, including the Polish president, was assassination orchestrated by Russia, rather than an accident as official investigations found.

“The government headed by [Russia’s then prime minister Vladimir] Putin is fully responsible for this tragedy,” he told the European parliament in March.

*sigh*

theguardian.com

BBL…..off to teach.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:57:25pm

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, Poland’s new Defense Minister is apparently a conspiracy nutjob.

Now, if you’re thinking “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, you’d be 100% correct!

And that’s not all….

*sigh*

theguardian.com

BBL…..off to teach.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right…

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teleskiguy  Nov 11, 2015 • 10:57:27pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

Seriously though, this is a hell of a shot. Nice work.

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freetoken  Nov 11, 2015 • 11:11:12pm

Courtesy of WFMU, lots of Ennio Morricone on his 87th birthday (yesterday):

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darthstar  Nov 11, 2015 • 11:14:50pm

Ben Carson and Klingon Jesus…I guess it was fate that I found this quote from the bible.

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Nyet  Nov 11, 2015 • 11:46:12pm

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Macierewicz’s been bad news for a long time now. That’s the scum that rises when you elect the right-wing.

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freetoken  Nov 12, 2015 • 12:19:37am

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Nyet  Nov 12, 2015 • 12:22:14am

re: #63 Nyet

Macierewicz’s been bad news for a long time now. That’s the scum that rises when you elect the right-wing.

Speaking of the lessons of history and what not, the designated right-wing PM Beata Maria Szydło was born in Oswiecim, of all places.

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teleskiguy  Nov 12, 2015 • 12:24:14am
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TedStriker  Nov 12, 2015 • 12:31:31am

re: #65 Nyet

Speaking of the lessons of history and what not, the designated right-wing PM Beata Maria Szydło was born in Oswiecim, of all places.

Better known as Auschwitz.

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 12, 2015 • 3:13:15am

re: #31 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I just put a pizza in the oven.

Holy crap. When’s Armageddon starting? I has soooo much Fallout to play before we go up in smoke.

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 12, 2015 • 3:16:37am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

On touch screens, there’s no real “hover” option, because you have to tap to select something.

6s pressure touching thingy is hover-like. When do we get that, huh? //////

Ok, I’ll go and sit in the corner and shut up, now.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:23:22am
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MomSense  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:28:01am

Did Carson pay someone for this pastel/painting? In actual money?

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:31:25am

re: #71 MomSense

Did Carson pay someone for this pastel/painting? In actual money?

No, Jesus did and gave it to Carson as a gift. /

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MomSense  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:36:56am

re: #72 Tigger2

I was thinking more disgruntled former patient.

This painting is a perfect example of why I can’t make sense of the Republican scene right now.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:42:10am

re: #73 MomSense

I was thinking more disgruntled former patient.

This painting is a perfect example of why I can’t make sense of the Republican scene right now.

The ruler is anointed by the god. It’s an old tradition.

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:43:37am

re: #73 MomSense

I was thinking more disgruntled former patient.

This painting is a perfect example of why I can’t make sense of the Republican scene right now.

In general that is something I don’t think any person with rational thinking can figure out.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:47:59am

Steve Crowder is being a Sodding Nutsack On Twitter (SNOT) because it is a day!

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:56:28am

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder is being a Sodding Nutsack On Twitter (SNOT) because it is a day!

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He better be glad he isn’t with my daughter talking that shit he would get his ass kicked, I always taught her to stand up for herself.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:57:27am

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 4:58:35am

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder is being a Sodding Nutsack On Twitter (SNOT) because it is a day!

[Embedded content]

He sounds so classy. No wonder why his only lady friend is his left hand with makeup on.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:00:06am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, Poland’s new Defense Minister is apparently a conspiracy nutjob.

Now, if you’re thinking “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, you’d be 100% correct!

And that’s not all….

*sigh*

theguardian.com

BBL…..off to teach.

Wow.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:00:59am

Award winning journalist, floor pooper, and financial genius!!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:05:28am

FYI: Firefox for iOS

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MomSense  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:27:57am

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The ruler is anointed by the god. It’s an old tradition.
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

Wow, it takes a lot of confidence to imagine that you have been anointed by God. I usually avoid those people.

re: #75 Tigger2

In general that is something I don’t think any person with rational thinking can figure out.
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

I had to stop watching their “debates”. I think their version of reality and the real world diverged about 40 years ago.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:34:15am

re: #81 Dr. Matt

Award winning journalist, floor pooper, and financial genius!!

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He’s convinced himself that Twitter kicking him off their service is a harbinger of Twitter’s doom.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:43:30am

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Targetpractice  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:44:41am

I’m beginning to strongly suspect that there was a discussion in the heavens the other day that went:

“This guy’s been waiting for months for this game to release, even taking a job that means that he’s got only a couple hours between working and needing to get ready to work to relax each day.”

“Let’s give him a head cold so he spends those hours instead lying in his bed and praying for death.”

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Amory Blaine  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:45:16am

Painting looks like Russell Brand slept over at Ben’s house. He is handing the good doctor some ludes (aka pep pills).

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:47:25am

I think the artist is a Star Trek fan because Jesus sure does resemble a Klingon.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:53:08am

re: #88 Dr. Matt

I think the artist is a Star Trek fan because Jesus sure does resemble a Klingon.

I’m sure the Sermon on the Mount sounds better in the original Klingon.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:55:18am

re: #85 A Mom Anon

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 5:58:38am

re: #90 Amory Blaine

I hope you’re right…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:02:18am

Very nice summary of the batshit crazy right.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:03:16am

Woopsy!

Russian TV stations broadcast secret nuclear torpedo plans
Document was left out in view when NTV and Channel One filmed Vladimir Putin meeting with military officials in Sochi

theguardian.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:06:59am

re: #92 Dr. Matt

Very nice summary of the batshit crazy right.

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Fitting that Alex Jones is pictured since he believes each every last one of those.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:10:30am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Fitting that Alex Jones is pictured since he believes each every last one of those.

I don’t know if Alex Jones or Glenn Beck actually believe the insane shit they spew but they sure know how to make money from the gullible rubes who do.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:13:18am

You must watch this video. It’s amazing she didn’t get shot. White privilege indeed.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:15:50am

Gahh. Have to do my brakes today and it’s wet and windy out there.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:16:38am

Long and thoughtful article in The Guardian about life in Beattyville, Kentucky, the poorest white community in the nation.

theguardian.com

It touches on the tendency for these folks to vote Republican and to hate Obama, because he’s not white and Republican. The mining industry has helped foster that attitude.

Davis said there had been a political campaign by the mining industry to blame the government for the decline led by an industry-funded group, The Friends of Coal.

“In the coinciding of the decline of coal jobs and the corresponding decline in the economy, the Friends of Coal campaign went from car shows and football games to music events - it was very cultural - and began to deflect pressure on the industry to blaming government policy. They put up posters: Stop the war on coal,” he said.

“We’re in a place right now where a tonne of coal costs about $68 to mine in eastern Kentucky and about $12 to mine in Wyoming. They’re importing more Wyoming coal here than they’re using east Kentucky coal. But if you ask people why this is, it’s Obama. They won’t blame the market, they blame the policy. It’s been very convenient to shift it to the black guy.”

Hostility to the US’s first black president runs deep. In an editorial, Beattyville’s largest circulation newspaper, Three Forks Tradition, described Obama as “trying to destroy the United States as we know it”. It accused him of waging war on “Anglo-Saxon males, who work for a living, believe in God and the right to keep and bear arms” and called the president and his then attorney general, Eric Holder, “race baiters with blood on their hands”.

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lizardofid  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:17:54am

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Good morning everyone.

Just testing the private feature!

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Teukka  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:18:02am

re: #92 Dr. Matt

Very nice summary of the batshit crazy right.

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Nice find. I cannot upding this enough :)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:20:15am

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t know if Alex Jones or Glenn Beck actually believe the insane shit they spew but they sure know how to make money from the gullible rubes who do.

True enough.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:20:53am
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lizardofid  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:22:15am

re: #85 A Mom Anon

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:24:06am

re: #81 Dr. Matt

Award winning journalist, floor pooper, and financial genius!!

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And all we need to do to learn CCJ’s financial genius is to pony up some dollars for his defense fund financial genius training.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:25:03am

re: #98 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Long and thoughtful article in The Guardian about life in Beattyville, Kentucky, the poorest white community in the nation.

theguardian.com

It touches on the tendency for these folks to vote Republican and to hate Obama, because he’s not white and Republican. The mining industry has helped foster that attitude.

Because the coal industry was doing awesome until 2009.

It’s also the attitude that they should be able to dig coal forever because that’s what they know how to do. No ability to change.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:26:14am

re: #98 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Long and thoughtful article in The Guardian about life in Beattyville, Kentucky, the poorest white community in the nation.

theguardian.com

It touches on the tendency for these folks to vote Republican and to hate Obama, because he’s not white and Republican. The mining industry has helped foster that attitude.

Great article. Towns like honestly are why we need a government that values its citizens welfare.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:27:22am

re: #105 Belafon

Because the coal industry was doing awesome until 2009.

It’s also the attitude that they should be able to dig coal forever because that’s what they know how to do. No ability to change.

It’s sad really. Prejudice is so deeply ingrained that people ignore reality.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:30:28am

re: #105 Belafon

Because the coal industry was doing awesome until 2009.

It’s also the attitude that they should be able to dig coal forever because that’s what they know how to do. No ability to change.

The coal companies in KY wanted only to make as much money as possible, without giving a shit about the environment or the people working for them. That went on year in, year out, no matter who was in the White House.

The GOP excoriates people who live on welfare and food stamps, yet most of the population in Beattyville survive on them. Of course, who did they vote for? Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:33:01am

my internet connection is glacial this morning.
way worse than the very worst dialup connection ever.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:39:07am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

my internet connection is glacial this morning.
way worse than the very worst dialup connection ever.

Interesting. I’ve been having the same problem the last two days….at home and work. Is Jade Helm to blame?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:40:53am

re: #110 Dr. Matt

Interesting. I’ve been having the same problem the last two days….at home and work. Is Jade Helm to blame?

I blame Friends of Coal…

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:40:57am

re: #108 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My daughter and grandkids live in a county in SE Ohio that is similar. It wasn’t mining that kept the town going, it was a Goodyear plant (now closed), a diamond wheel manufacturer (now closed) and a paper plant (they assembled notebooks, folders, etc- also closed). Now that those places are gone, the only places to work are in fast food and Walmart. So, once unemployment ran out for folks, they went and got placed on disability. This included prescription pain meds for A LOT of people. I got out while I could, took my daughter with me, but she kept running away back to there because her dad wouldn’t leave. He is now a meth and heroin addict. Once those pills aren’t legal to get, people switch over to heroin. My grandkids being raised in that environment scares the fuck out of me. And to the letter, almost everyone who lives there who votes votes Republican. My daughter and her husband vote for Dems and have managed to keep away from drugs ,but my grandson, who is 13 now is dealing with having friends who use drugs, and the number of parents who neglect their kids is astounding. This used to be a lovely little small town, nestled into the foothills of Appalachia, a beautiful place. Now it’s full of despair, addiction, and crime. I am in no position to help them get out of there and it’s heartbreaking. These companies promised to be there and then left when they decided not to pay people a living wage anymore. They also left behind toxic job sites that are abandoned and have never been cleaned up. It’s disgusting and sad.

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Archangelus  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:41:15am

Gotta love Weird Al..

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:41:51am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

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Not sure if that is true for White women, who I believe still mostly vote for Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:41:57am

Morning! The mighty winds, they are a blowing.

You know what else blows? Steven Crowder.

After seeing some of his schlock posted by VB in #76 I got to wondering what the hell is this guy’s problem(s). So, I did some searching and damn I found some stuff that tells me this guy is a bigger idiot than I could have imagined.

Check out this lame ass “comedy” video he did on Nancy Pelosi and waterboarding.This dude is a throwback…meaning I’d like to throw him back to wherever he came from. Listen to all his great little caveman terms like broad, chick, etc. Is it safe to say he is a woman hater? He has some issues.

“The Dark Pelosi” (With Waterboarding!)

And as an extra bonus that VB will love…and image of two of her favorite Tweeters in one image together. I guess Steve doesn’t hate all women. He loves him some gun-toting conservative “throwback” womens.

Gah! This guy is such a dick.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:46:33am

re: #115 ObserverArt

Morning! The mighty winds, they are a blowing.

You know what else blows? Steven Crowder.

After seeing some of his schlock posted by VB in #76 I got to wondering what the hell is this guy’s problem(s). So, I did some searching and damn I found some stuff that tells me this guy is a bigger idiot than I could have imagined.

Check out this lame ass “comedy” video he did on Nancy Pelosi and waterboarding.This dude is a throwback…meaning I’d like to throw him back to wherever he came from. Listen to all his great little caveman terms like broad, chick, etc. Is it safe to say he is a woman hater? He has some issues.

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Gah! This guy is such a dick.

We’re talking about a guy who rags about the big bad federal government and yet one of his first jobs was as a voice actor on a children’s cartoon on PBS. Not as fucked up as Paul Ryan I grant you but Lil Stevie reminds me of a lot of millenial conservatives in that he’s sexist and proud of it, has utterly no clue what previous generations fought for and won, and thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:48:14am

re: #115 ObserverArt

Morning! The mighty winds, they are a blowing.

You know what else blows? Steven Crowder.

After seeing some of his schlock posted by VB in #76 I got to wondering what the hell is this guy’s problem(s). So, I did some searching and damn I found some stuff that tells me this guy is a bigger idiot than I could have imagined.

Check out this lame ass “comedy” video he did on Nancy Pelosi and waterboarding.This dude is a throwback…meaning I’d like to throw him back to wherever he came from. Listen to all his great little caveman terms like broad, chick, etc. Is it safe to say he is a woman hater? He has some issues.

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Gah! This guy is such a dick.

He’s competing with Jim Hoft for the SMOTI title but Dim Jim still owns that so I call him SNOT (Sodding Nutsack On Twitter)

Almost all of his lame shtick is plagiarized from stupid shit that Rush Limbaugh said years ago.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:49:07am

re: #112 A Mom Anon

My daughter and grandkids live in a county in SE Ohio that is similar. It wasn’t mining that kept the town going, it was a Goodyear plant (now closed), a diamond wheel manufacturer (now closed) and a paper plant (they assembled notebooks, folders, etc- also closed). Now that those places are gone, the only places to work are in fast food and Walmart. So, once unemployment ran out for folks, they went and got placed on disability. This included prescription pain meds for A LOT of people. I got out while I could, took my daughter with me, but she kept running away back to there because her dad wouldn’t leave. He is now a meth and heroin addict. Once those pills aren’t legal to get, people switch over to heroin. My grandkids being raised in that environment scares the fuck out of me. And to the letter, almost everyone who lives there who votes votes Republican. My daughter and her husband vote for Dems and have managed to keep away from drugs ,but my grandson, who is 13 now is dealing with having friends who use drugs, and the number of parents who neglect their kids is astounding. This used to be a lovely little small town, nestled into the foothills of Appalachia, a beautiful place. Now it’s full of despair, addiction, and crime. I am in no position to help them get out of there and it’s heartbreaking. These companies promised to be there and then left when they decided not to pay people a living wage anymore. They also left behind toxic job sites that are abandoned and have never been cleaned up. It’s disgusting and sad.

My aunt was from coal country — Uniontown, PA. After she died, my uncle came to visit us in New York, then the two of us drove cross-country back to their home in Chicago. We stopped in Uniontown to visit his in-laws. This was in ‘74. The mines and steel mills were pretty much gone, and the experience for me was pretty depressing. I had never been in a post-industrial town before. Judging from the Wikipedia entry about it, Uniontown seems to be doing a lot better than Beattyville, though.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:50:18am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

my internet connection is glacial this morning.
way worse than the very worst dialup connection ever.

Weather related?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:51:58am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Crowder is a one-trick pony.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:53:16am

I actually remember my first research paper project my senior year of high school as it was on Appalachia. I was a little familiar with Appalachia since my mom’s parents came from Johnstown, Pa. That town was once bustling with tons of immigrant steel workers and coal miners like my great grandfathers. But eventually the mines did close and people left. And then you had people who dreamed other dreams like my grandfather. My grandfather briefly worked in the mines as a teenager and decided that was not the life he wanted for the family he was going to raise so not long after my grandparents got married they moved down to NoVa. The rest they say is history. I mean I feel bad for these people since the mines are all they’ve ever known for generations but economies do change and it’s not right to blame Obama for the mines closing. The real tragedy is the poverty and the prevalent drug use. Even though I have no doubt that the people of this town probably see people like me as liberal elites, I still want to use the government to improve their lives and I really think government involvement can. Even the town in Wheat’s article deputy mayor while he doesn’t like welfare admits that without welfare the town would die. Is welfare perfect? No, it’s not but I’d rather pay a little more in taxes so our fellow Americans that are impoverished can have better lives.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:54:16am

re: #120 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Crowder is a one-trick pony.

Yeah he’s what we call a lameass. He’s not witty at all and as VB gets at he’s nothing but a Limbaugh clone. Real sad to see the future generation of Rush Limbaughs in people like Steve, Ben Shapiiro, and CCJ.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:55:13am

HURR HURR WHY CAN’T I WEAR A SHIRT THAT SAYS I LOVE MY WHITENESS!!!!1!!!!!
Also clue: racism existed before deray’s Blackness shirts

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:56:05am

Steve loves to dress in drag for a lot of his skits.

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:57:21am

re: #115 ObserverArt

Morning! The mighty winds, they are a blowing.

You know what else blows? Steven Crowder.

After seeing some of his schlock posted by VB in #76 I got to wondering what the hell is this guy’s problem(s). So, I did some searching and damn I found some stuff that tells me this guy is a bigger idiot than I could have imagined.

Check out this lame ass “comedy” video he did on Nancy Pelosi and waterboarding.This dude is a throwback…meaning I’d like to throw him back to wherever he came from. Listen to all his great little caveman terms like broad, chick, etc. Is it safe to say he is a woman hater? He has some issues.

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Gah! This guy is such a dick.

I thought that was a still image of Palin on the video when I just glanced at it. lol

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:58:54am

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

Steve loves to dress in drag for a lot of his skits.

That’s very “method” for his radio gig.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 6:59:37am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

That’s very “method” for his radio gig.

He has a youtube channell too apparently.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:00:13am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

He has a youtube channell too apparently.

So he dresses out there too.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:01:06am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:02:09am

The thing is when the steel companies, coal, or whatever leave towns like Johnstown, Beattysville, and Uniontown. There’s not much in place to replace them. And that creates unemployment and poverty. That in return results in resentment. I;m not naive like I used to in that I think we can return all industrial jobs but we need to be able to help towns like these when the companies decide they’d rather take that work overseas because they’d rather pay Chinese or whatever employees less than American ones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:02:11am

re: #119 ObserverArt

Weather related?

maybe.
It keeps dropping out for long periods of time, then comes back for a few minutes, then leaves again.
Wind is starting to get gusty.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:02:20am

Derp on Derp violence:

Two enter, one leaves. Thunderdome. Good fight. Good night. Let’s get it on!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:02:30am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Oh and Section 8 housing IS NOT FREE you fucking morons

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:02:33am

re: #128 Decatur Deb

So he dresses out there too.

Ha yeah I guess so.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:02:46am

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR WHY CAN’T I WEAR A SHIRT THAT SAYS I LOVE MY WHITENESS!!!!1!!!!!
Also clue: racism existed before deray’s Blackness shirts

I am really not offended when a black person wears a shirt proclaiming their pride in who they are. It’s a statement against a prevailing societal belief that being black means being inferior in some way. It’s not a racist statement, because they are speaking against inherent racism in American society.

Wearing a shirt proclaiming one’s pride in being white, on the other hand, sends a very different message, since the wearer is a member of the majority — a majority that’s been in power for hundreds of years, lording over the minority. That message can be racist, because the message is “I’m white, and you’re not (important).”

Context matters, a concept that Crowder, CCJ and others in their neo-racist camp do not understand, or care to.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:02:55am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

That’s very “method” for his radio gig.

I noticed the video I put up references him being part of Breitbart. One of the brats I guess. I don’t think I remember seeing anything about that.

Ben Shapiro, Crowder…even Chucky C. Johnson are or have been associated with Breitbart. I wonder what you have to do or be to get a gig with them. I wonder, but I don’t think I want to know.

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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:03:03am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Has anyone else seen this iPad-related problem reported today through the contact form?

Doesn’t happen on an iPhone, only on iPad. I don’t have an iPad but it works fine on the Xcode iPad simulator.

I do. The box keeps changing size or is just dead when I manage to hit it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:03:52am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Oh and Section 8 housing IS NOT FREE you fucking morons

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Actually I’d be happy with 15.00 a hour but go ahead conservatives laugh at people wanting to be able afford housing because that’s so funny, you’re the sad pricks who cry like little girls when people wish you Happy holidays, at least we liberals get upset at shit that actually matters.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:04:39am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I am really not offended when a black person wears a shirt proclaiming their pride in who they are. It’s a statement against a prevailing societal belief that being black means being inferior in some way. It’s not a racist statement, because they are speaking against inherent racism in American society.

Wearing a shirt proclaiming one’s pride in being white, on the other hand, sends a very different message, since the wearer is a member of the majority — a majority that’s been in power for hundreds of years, lording over the minority. That message can be racist, because the message is “I’m white, and you’re not (important).”

Context matters, a concept that Crowder, CCJ and others in their neo-racist camp do not understand, or care to.

Exactly. Nailed it. You could say the same thing about gay pride and straight pride too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:05:49am

re: #136 ObserverArt

I noticed the video I put up references him being part of Breitbart. One of the brats I guess. I don’t think I remember seeing anything about that.

Ben Shapiro, Crowder…even Chucky C. Johnson are or have been associated with Breitbart. I wonder what you have to do or be to get a gig with them. I wonder, but I don’t think I want to know.

I don’t wanna know how you get that job. But I imagine it helps to make connections at your campus’s College Republicans, YAF, or even Youth for Civilization chapter. My first semster at Mason I saw a banner for Y4C advertising Tom Tancredo as a speaker.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:06:12am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Nailed it. You could say the same thing about gay pride and straight pride too.

Yup. But all of it is hard to convey in 140-character tweet-bites.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:06:12am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

The thing is when the steel companies, coal, or whatever leave towns like Johnstown, Beattysville, and Uniontown. There’s not much in place to replace them. And that creates unemployment and poverty. That in return results in resentment. I;m not naive like I used to in that I think we can return all industrial jobs but we need to be able to help towns like these when the companies decide they’d rather take that work overseas because they’d rather pay Chinese or whatever employees less than American ones.

We have a party that is at least trying to help, but it’s not the one they keep voting for. How do you get people to not vote based on resentment?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:06:47am

re: #142 Belafon

We have a party that is at least trying to help, but it’s not the one they keep voting for. How do you get people to not vote based on resentment?

If I knew the answer to that question, I wouldn’t be scanning QR codes heh.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:07:56am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe.
It keeps dropping out for long periods of time, then comes back for a few minutes, then leaves again.
Wind is starting to get gusty.

It’s blowing pretty good here in Columbus right now. I bet there is some wires on a pole somewhere that are causing the drops as the wind blows them around. Sometimes when it gets cold and windy my TV signal gets wonky and starts to pixelate.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:08:06am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I don’t wanna know how you get that job. But I imagine it helps to make connections at your campus’s College Republicans, YAF, or even Youth for Civilization chapter. My first semster at Mason I saw a banner for Y4C advertising Tom Tancredo as a speaker.

The Leadership Institute is a nexus. It’s a post-grad halfway house for CRNC shits heading for wingnut welfare.

leadershipinstitute.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:08:37am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

The thing is when the steel companies, coal, or whatever leave towns like Johnstown, Beattysville, and Uniontown. There’s not much in place to replace them. And that creates unemployment and poverty. That in return results in resentment. I;m not naive like I used to in that I think we can return all industrial jobs but we need to be able to help towns like these when the companies decide they’d rather take that work overseas because they’d rather pay Chinese or whatever employees less than American ones.

I don’t understand why solar panel, wind turbine and other alternative energy manufacturers haven’t set up shop in these towns.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:08:42am

re: #141 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yup. But all of it is hard to convey in 140-character tweet-bites.

So much is which is part of why I don’t tweet. The world is a complex place. Being proud of being black or gay is a direct response to generations of being told you are inferior because you are. Shit it’s sad even in many of these cultures, so called colorism exists where lighter skinned people are viewed more positively than dark ones. I think it’s quite prevalent in the Indian community.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:09:20am

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t understand why solar panel, wind turbine and other alternative energy manufacturers haven’t set up shop in these towns.

Not a bad idea really.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:09:48am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

The Leadership Institute is a nexus. It’s a post-grad halfway house for CRNC shits heading for wingnut welfare.

leadershipinstitute.org

Sounds like a place filled with shiny happy people..

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:09:53am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

The thing is when the steel companies, coal, or whatever leave towns like Johnstown, Beattysville, and Uniontown. There’s not much in place to replace them. And that creates unemployment and poverty. That in return results in resentment. I;m not naive like I used to in that I think we can return all industrial jobs but we need to be able to help towns like these when the companies decide they’d rather take that work overseas because they’d rather pay Chinese or whatever employees less than American ones.

Every child had a pretty good shot
To get at least as far as their old man got
But something happened on the way to that place
They threw an American flag in our face
Billy Joel - Allentown

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:10:29am

re: #132 lawhawk

Derp on Derp violence:

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Two enter, one leaves. Thunderdome. Good fight. Good night. Let’s get it on!

Maybe we can get the two of them to get into a gut-bumping fight or something.

I am surprised that anyone listens to Rove though. But then too, I wonder why anyone listens to Trump. I guess it’s a tie.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:10:37am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I don’t wanna know how you get that job. But I imagine it helps to make connections at your campus’s College Republicans, YAF, or even Youth for Civilization chapter. My first semster at Mason I saw a banner for Y4C advertising Tom Tancredo as a speaker.

In CCJ’s case, he was a con while in college, with his own blog and a growing reputation as a “fighter” for con causes. Basically, he was kindred spirit of Andrew Breitbart. Breitbart sought out youngsters like CCJ, Shapiro, Loesch, et alia, because they all shoot from the hip, using their internalized RW thought patterns, with little regard for accuracy, integrity, or fair play.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:11:01am

re: #150 BeachDem

Every child had a pretty good shot
To get at least as far as their old man got
But something happened on the way to that place
They threw an American flag in our face
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I was actually in Allentown fairly recently. But Billy Joel through song naled it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:11:05am

Second most annoying thing on Twitter: somebody you like & follow gets into a long conversation with a bunch of wingnuts & doesn’t take you out of the mentions when asked repeatedly.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:11:20am

Brake job went nice and smooth. Celebratory gif.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:11:55am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

On touch screens, there’s no real “hover” option, because you have to tap to select something. So I programmed it to pop up the last comment when you tap the button the first time, so you can see who posted the last comment and when. Then you can tap the commenter’s name to go into the thread.

The other way to approach this would be to not have the last comment show at all, but go directly to the top of the thread when you tap the button. I thought it was better to show the last comment posted so you can tell whether there’s something new in there that you want to read.

That explains it. I was having the same problem as the OP on my Windows laptop with the touch screen. Whether I clicked with a mouse or touched the button with my finger, it wouldn’t go to the comments. I ended up clicking the link to the article and then clicked the show comments button from there. I didn’t know about the commenter’s name click.

I’ll test that this evening when I get home to my computer.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:11:58am

re: #133 The Vicious Babushka

Section 8 housing:

Eligibility for a housing voucher is determined by the PHA based on the total annual gross income and family size and is limited to US citizens and specified categories of non-citizens who have eligible immigration status. In general, the family’s income may not exceed 50% of the median income for the county or metropolitan area in which the family chooses to live. By law, a PHA must provide 75 percent of its voucher to applicants whose incomes do not exceed 30 percent of the area median income. Median income levels are published by HUD and vary by location. The PHA serving your community can provide you with the income limits for your area and family size.

It will depend on the metro area. For NYC, this means gross income no greater than $24,800 for one person up to $35,450 for a family of 4.

$15 per hour, 35 hours a week, for 50 weeks = $26,250. That means a single person making $15 an hour would be ineligible, but someone supporting a family of 4 on that amount would be eligible.

Those figures might make some people in other metro areas ineligible for the voucher, but then again, these conservative nitwits want to see these programs eliminated anyways, so it’s not like it would be a bad outcome for the conservative nitwits. It would also mean more slots open up for those who are still below the poverty levels.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:13:13am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

So much is which is part of why I don’t tweet. The world is a complex place. Being proud of being black or gay is a direct response to generations of being told you are inferior because you are. Shit it’s sad even in many of these cultures, so called colorism exists where lighter skinned people are viewed more positively than dark ones. I think it’s quite prevalent in the Indian community.

It’s true for most of Asia, in fact. Dark skin = peasant. Light skin = not peasant. It’s not quite that easy, though, in reality. Genetics doesn’t follow neat occupational patterns.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:13:17am

re: #152 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In CCJ’s case, he was a con while in college, with his own blog and a growing reputation as a “fighter” for con causes. Basically, he was kindred spirit of Andrew Breitbart. Breitbart sought out youngsters like CCJ, Shapiro, Loesch, et alia, because they all shoot from the hip, using their internalized RW thought patterns, with little regard for accuracy, integrity, or fair play.

I dunno why I thought Dana was a little older- more of a Gen Xer versus CCJ/Shapiro’s Millenial. It really is ad to see a new generation of Limbaugh clones forming before our very eyes.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:13:52am

re: #155 Amory Blaine

Brake job went nice and smooth. Celebratory gif.

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Must be Automotive Karma day. I just got my motorcycle tire on the rim—both sidewalls!! Haven’t had the nerve to air it up yet. Gonna let the vegetable oil dry.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:14:33am

re: #158 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s true for most of Asia, in fact. Dark skin = peasant. Light skin = not peasant. It’s not quite that easy, though, in reality. Genetics doesn’t follow neat occupational patterns.

Yep. Be nice if we all could put away the whole skin color and just treat people as people. I think that’s part of why I like my workarea so much, it’s a diverse bunch here.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:14:33am

re: #135 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I am really not offended when a black person wears a shirt proclaiming their pride in who they are. It’s a statement against a prevailing societal belief that being black means being inferior in some way. It’s not a racist statement, because they are speaking against inherent racism in American society.

Wearing a shirt proclaiming one’s pride in being white, on the other hand, sends a very different message, since the wearer is a member of the majority — a majority that’s been in power for hundreds of years, lording over the minority. That message can be racist, because the message is “I’m white, and you’re not (important).”

Context matters, a concept that Crowder, CCJ and others in their neo-racist camp do not understand, or care to.

Besides, most black people in America have to identify by skin color since most of their ethnic history prior to coming here got stripped from them via slavery. People who are white tend to have some idea of their ancestral lands and cultures.

So its not that white people should be proud of their origins, but there’s no ‘white’ origin as such. So they should say ‘Irish-American” or “Italian-American” instead of deliberately calling attention to skin color when they have other options.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:14:58am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I dunno why I thought Dana was a little older- more of a Gen Xer versus CCJ/Shapiro’s Millenial. It really is ad to see a new generation of Limbaugh clones forming before our very eyes.

She may be older. I try to ignore her as much as possible.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:15:46am

re: #98 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Great find, Wheat—

“We’re in a place right now where a tonne of coal costs about $68 to mine in eastern Kentucky and about $12 to mine in Wyoming. They’re importing more Wyoming coal here than they’re using east Kentucky coal. But if you ask people why this is, it’s Obama. They won’t blame the market, they blame the policy. It’s been very convenient to shift it to the black guy.”

I wonder why this is? Why would it be cheaper to mine coal in Wyoming than KY?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:17:34am

re: #163 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She may be older. I try to ignore her as much as possible.

Yeah wasn’t trying to nitpick ya. She’s unhealthy that one. Anything remotely critical of guns sets her off like a time bomb.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:17:54am

re: #164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Great find, Wheat—

I wonder why this is? Why would it be cheaper to mine coal in Wyoming than KY?

Watch that they’re not comparing stripmined bituminous with deep-mined metallurgical anthracite.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:18:06am

re: #164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Great find, Wheat—

I wonder why this is? Why would it be cheaper to mine coal in Wyoming than KY?

I imagine the UMWA isn’t as involved in Wyoming as in Kentucky.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:18:50am

re: #164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Great find, Wheat—

I wonder why this is? Why would it be cheaper to mine coal in Wyoming than KY?

Probably type of coal and mining methods.
I’d google it, but the internet hamster here is on a slowdown strike…

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:18:59am

re: #164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

First guess, though it could be wrong, is the easy to get coal in Kentucky has already been removed. They’ve been digging there for a lot longer than Wyoming.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:19:49am

re: #164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Strip mining versus tunneling? It’s cheaper to strip mine versus underground mining. The cost advantages also include being able to obtain far more coal versus tunneling, where structures have to remain in place to maintain the stability of the mine. There’s also safety and other considerations.

WY is the nation’s biggest coal producer, followed by WV. WY predominantly does surface mining. WV is majority tunneling, though WV has a higher quality coal than WY.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:20:08am

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Besides, most black people in America have to identify by skin color since most of their ethnic history prior to coming here got stripped from them via slavery. People who are white tend to have some idea of their ancestral lands and cultures.

So its not that white people should be proud of their origins, but there’s no ‘white’ origin as such. So they should say ‘Irish-American” or “Italian-American” instead of deliberately calling attention to skin color when they have other options.

My background is Celtic British and Swedish. But the earliest connection to my European background is two generations back, and my three Swedish grandparents made it a point to leave the old ways behind and become Americans. So, my ties to the old world are tenuous. While I’m proud of my heritage, it’s not who I am. I am who I am. I just happen to be white and Euro-American.

I find it impossible to understand anyone who identifies first as white, then as anything else. It’s like saying you’re proud of having brown hair, or green eyes.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:22:31am

re: #132 lawhawk

Derp on Derp violence:

Two enter, one leaves. Thunderdome. Good fight. Good night. Let’s get it on!

DUMMY!!! LOSER!!!!

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:23:08am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Probably type of coal and mining methods.
I’d google it, but the internet hamster here is on a slowdown strike…

When I was living in Kentucky and reading the Lexington Herald they had articles on it. As I recall, you’re exactly right. The seams are now harder to mine (thus blowing off the tops of mountains is the least expensive way to extract).

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:23:26am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:23:45am

AP Exclusive: Carson profits from ties with convicted felon

Republican presidential contender Ben Carson has maintained a business relationship with a close friend convicted of defrauding insurance companies and testified on his behalf, even as the candidate has called for such crimes to be punished harshly.

Pittsburgh dentist Alfonso A. Costa pleaded guilty to a felony count of health care fraud after an FBI probe into his oral surgery practice found he had charged for procedures he never performed, according to court records.

Though the crime carries a potential sentence of up to 10 years in federal prison, Costa was able to avoid prison time after Carson helped petition a federal judge for leniency

The Vetting™

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:23:58am

re: #171 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My background is Celtic British and Swedish. But the earliest connection to my European background is two generations back, and my three Swedish grandparents made it a point to leave the old ways behind and become Americans. So, my ties to the old world are tenuous. While I’m proud of my heritage, it’s not who I am. I am who I am. I just happen to be white and Euro-American.

I find it impossible to understand anyone who identifies first as white, then as anything else. It’s like saying you’re proud of having brown hair, or green eyes.

I’m all over the place. I think the cultures of the people I’m descended from does define me in a way though. But it’s in strictly things like food, drink, music, and stuff ike that. I’ve always been proud of my heritage but I’ve never seen it as a reason to say I’m better than someone either. I just thnk yeah identifying first as white is silly and furthermore many of these same white nationalists are the people who used to call the Irish white “n-words” or treated the Slavs diferently because their culture and appearences wasn’t Anglo-Saxon.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:24:07am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Some of these areas used to be farm country back before the factories came in. With some help they could go back to some form of that again, especially with the current trend toward healthier and more diverse farm products, everything from fruits and veggies, to meat to cheeses etc. I’d rather see these communities get that money than big companies who screw over people like them. Farmers were promised better money and less hard work and a better future for their families, so they quit farming and didn’t encourage their kids to. My dad’s family is from this area also, this happened to their family. No one is there anymore, they got out (except my grandparents) years and years ago. Those promises were kept for two generations. That’s it. Now there are two generations living in that area that have never worked, not beyond service jobs for minimum wage or just above that. Not because they are lazy, but because they don’t have the means to leave. They are trapped in a cycle that can’t be broken without help.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:24:36am

re: #174 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Someone needs to go fuck Ayn Rand’s corpse and shut the fuck up.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:25:03am

But also in those years there was a marked shift from coal to gas-powered electrical plants, so demand was dwindling in general. And Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:25:39am

re: #177 A Mom Anon

Some of these areas used to be farm country back before the factories came in. With some help they could go back to some form of that again, especially with the current trend toward healthier and more diverse farm products, everything from fruits and veggies, to meat to cheeses etc. I’d rather see these communities get that money than big companies who screw over people like them. Farmers were promised better money and less hard work and a better future for their families, so they quit farming and didn’t encourage their kids to. My dad’s family is from this area also, this happened to their family. No one is there anymore, they got out (except my grandparents) years and years ago. Those promises were kept for two generations. That’s it. Now there are two generations living in that area that have never worked, not beyond service jobs for minimum wage or just above that. Not because they are lazy, but because they don’t have the means to leave. They are trapped in a cycle that can’t be broken without help.

Ah that’s a good point about the agriculture.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:25:53am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Someone needs to go fuck Ayn Rand’s corpse and shut the fuck up.

Maybe someone should go back in time and convince her editor to pitch her manuscripts into File 13.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:26:53am

re: #175 Dr. Matt

Perhaps the most damning bit from that story is that the relationship continues even after the conviction. Costa still profits from the relationship, as does Carson:

Before his criminal conviction and the revocation of his license to practice dentistry, Costa built a multimillion-dollar fortune through commercial real estate. Investments Carson and his wife made through Costa earn the couple between $200,000 and $2 million a year, according to financial records that Carson was required to file when he declared his candidacy.

Costa also continues to promote his involvement with Carson’s charity as part of his real estate business, prominently featuring the logo of the Carson Scholars Fund on the company’s website. His son has worked with Carson’s presidential campaign and a political committee founded by the retired neurosurgeon.

And all that’s after Carson saying that folks who engage in crimes like Costa should lose their shirts.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:27:30am

OK Lizards, I have to go run some errands before I have to take The Kid to work. BBL.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:28:32am

re: #170 lawhawk

Strip mining versus tunneling? It’s cheaper to strip mine versus underground mining. The cost advantages also include being able to obtain far more coal versus tunneling, where structures have to remain in place to maintain the stability of the mine. There’s also safety and other considerations.

WY is the nation’s biggest coal producer, followed by WV. WY predominantly does surface mining. WV is majority tunneling, though WV has a higher quality coal than WY.

Thanks for the sources

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:28:44am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Someone needs to go fuck Ayn Rand’s corpse and shut the fuck up.

I’m wondering who these people are “who work zero hours a week”

They must be the hedge fund investors whose portfolio contains McDonalds & Walmart shares.

That’s the only explanation that actually makes sense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:28:56am

re: #179 Barefoot Grin

But also in those years there was a marked shift from coal to gas-powered electrical plants, so demand was dwindling in general. And Obama.

The biggest change over the last couple of decades is that demand for coal has dropped tremendously. The market just isn’t there anymore. Market is usually the first or second reason given for shuttering mines; regulation is way down on the list. Even the coal companies admit that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:29:19am

re: #181 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe someone should go back in time and convince her editor to pitch her manuscripts into File 13.

I mean, I am sorry but people who aren’t working aren’t doing it because they’re lazy. They’re not working because they can’t find work. There’s this right wing delusion that you just send in your resume and then you get an interview and ten you get a job within days and man do I love the It’s Always Sunny bit about the land of jobbies and the job helmet. I think there’s a large amount of people in the right wing community that would be fine with letting the unemployed go homeless and starve I really do.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:30:01am

re: #185 The Vicious Babushka

I’m wondering who these people are “who work zero hours a week”

They must be the hedge fund investors whose portfolio contains McDonalds & Walmart shares.

That’s the only explanation that actually makes sense.

They don’t live in reality. They live in a reality where everyone but them and their friends and compatriots are lazy moochers trying to get a hand out.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:30:07am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

Must be Automotive Karma day. I just got my motorcycle tire on the rim—both sidewalls!! Haven’t had the nerve to air it up yet. Gonna let the vegetable oil dry.

Yesterday I was driving on the highway and then the tire indicator light came on. I went another couple miles to the store I was going to. As I atarted to park I noticed the SUV that was behind me pulled up just behind where I parked. I knew what that meant. Sure enough, as I got out I looked down and my rear driver side tire was real low. They guy in the SUV rolled his window down and said he noticed that and wanted to make me aware. That was nice of him.

So after finishing getting a 32gig SD card for my camera I went about changing the tire. I can’t remember the last time I actually had to change a tire in an emergency. Everything went great right up to where I started to put the spare on and it wouldn’t seat properly.

I have sport wheels and summer performance tires and they have little plastic inserts that go into the hub to change the size of the hub opening to match the size needed for my VW. The one for the tire I was changing was stuck on the hub. Damn thing would not come off. I spent 15 minutes tapping on it to break it free. I couldn’t be too rough with it or it would break. I already put some cracks in it, so I hope I can get a replacement, or I am screwed.

I guess I will now put on my winter tires a couple weeks early and worry about the sport rubber in March.

Modern problems. A 10-15 minute tire swap turned into 45 minutes. But at least I didn’t need to call AAA for a tow.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:31:09am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

They don’t live in reality. They live in a reality where everyone but them and their friends and compatriots are lazy moochers trying to get a hand out.

Or they are living on SS or disability but “they earned it”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:32:30am

re: #182 lawhawk

Perhaps the most damning bit from that story is that the relationship continues even after the conviction. Costa still profits from the relationship, as does Carson:

And all that’s after Carson saying that folks who engage in crimes like Costa should lose their shirts.

THIS IS MEDIA LIBERAL LYNCHING!!!!!!

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:33:22am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

The biggest change over the last couple of decades is that demand for coal has dropped tremendously. The market just isn’t there anymore. Market is usually the first or second reason given for shuttering mines; regulation is way down on the list. Even the coal companies admit that.

The demand for coal has dropped as a result of natural gas prices dropping even faster - and natural gas plants are more cost effective to run as well and can operate on a smaller footprint as a result of not requiring space to bunker the coal. It’s also quicker for natural gas plants to fire up to start generating power to match demand than coal plants. So, building new smaller distributed gas powered plants closer to where the demand is located makes more sense than building new coal powered facilities, because of the distribution costs as well (need for rail access, larger land area required to store coal, etc.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:34:12am

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

Or they are living on SS or disability but “they earned it”

There’s that too. They think they’ve “earned” their benefits while other people who want them are just “lazy.” It’s typical of the fuck you, I got mine mentality that brings this country down. Instead of looking at that poor person who may need welfare so her children have a place to eat or sleep, we call her a slut for having the kids and we mock her for working at McDonalds. We don’t think why shouldn’t she be able to her kids to college. It really is a fucked up mindset and I for one am tired of hearing it especially from presidential candidates.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:35:31am

Road-raging Marine wounded in Veterans Day shooting after he ‘scared the shit out of’ driver

Witnesses said the former Marine stopped his Infiniti SUV shortly before noon at an intersection in Murfreesboro and got out of his car and confronted another driver stopped behind him.

Police said a 22-year-old man fired one gunshot from inside his Volvo station wagon, hitting the veteran in the stomach and exiting through his side and then striking his elbow.

Witnesses said the wounded man asked the other driver why he had shot him.

“You scared the shit out of me,” the gunman said.

And THIS is exactly why SYG laws are senseless and are nothing but licenses to kills. The right-wingers are in a complete huff claiming Missouri students are too sensitive. At least they are not shooting people because they are “afraid”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:35:48am

Feels strange coming from an autistic but what we really genuinely seem to lack is empathy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:36:12am

re: #181 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Maybe someone should go back in time and convince her editor to pitch her manuscripts into File 13.

“Baby Ayn Rand!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:36:46am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

Road-raging Marine wounded in Veterans Day shooting after he ‘scared the shit out of’ driver

And THIS is exactly why SYG laws are senseless and are nothing but licenses to kills. The right-wingers are in a complete huff claiming Missouri students are too sensitive. At least they are not shooting people because they are “afraid”.

A nation of cowards whose first instinct is the gun rather than reason. That’s far more dangerous to me than political correctness and attempting to treat everyone with respect.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:39:27am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

A nation of pussies. That should bother people far more than “PC.”

My cat takes offense. He’s pretty brave.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:41:28am

re: #192 lawhawk

The demand for coal has dropped as a result of natural gas prices dropping even faster - and natural gas plants are more cost effective to run as well and can operate on a smaller footprint as a result of not requiring space to bunker the coal. It’s also quicker for natural gas plants to fire up to start generating power to match demand than coal plants. So, building new smaller distributed gas powered plants closer to where the demand is located makes more sense than building new coal powered facilities, because of the distribution costs as well (need for rail access, larger land area required to store coal, etc.)

That is why Trump was jumping all over Kasich for Ohio’s “turnaround” the other night. The eastern side of Ohio is almost all shale. And in that shale is a lot of natural gas. Fracking has unleashed tons of it. Gas heating has gotten a lot less expensive over the last couple years.

And with that, see you later Lizards. Gotta get busy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:42:16am

re: #198 Belafon

My cat takes offense. He’s pretty brave.

I corrected it. I know that pussy can be seen as sexist. But really anyhow if your first immediate instinct is always to go to the gun because you’re scared, you’re a coward to me. Sorry I must edit again as I see the wounded man was the Marine, sorry abot that.

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iossarian  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:42:46am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

Road-raging Marine wounded in Veterans Day shooting after he ‘scared the shit out of’ driver

How on earth are the 2nd amendment people going to make sense of this story?

“But he was a Marine!”

“But the driver had every right to shoot him!”

“But the Marine was right to be mad!”

Maybe one of them was black? That might help to resolve this.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:42:54am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

Road-raging Marine wounded in Veterans Day shooting after he ‘scared the shit out of’ driver

And THIS is exactly why SYG laws are senseless and are nothing but licenses to kills. The right-wingers are in a complete huff claiming Missouri students are too sensitive. At least they are not shooting people because they are “afraid”.

SYG doesn’t really apply in this case. If you’re stopped in traffic and someone is right in front of your car door, then retreat is impossible so one has no duty to do so.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:46:21am

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

SYG doesn’t really apply in this case. If you’re stopped in traffic and someone is right in front of your car door, then retreat is impossible so one has no duty to do so.

*rolling my eyes*

“You scared the shit out of me,” the gunman said.

HE FUCKING SHOT SOMEONE BECAUSE HE WAS “AFRAID”.

Can you read that??? Do you understand, or are you too busy gun humping and apologizing for pussy ammosexuals?

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:46:29am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

I corrected it. I know that pussy can be seen as sexist. But really anyhow if your first immediate instinct is always to go to the gun because you’re scared, you’re a coward to me and I don’t care if you were in the Marines or not. Maybe that’s harsh and this guy may have a form of PTSD but that’s exactly why I don’t think gun selling should be like selling normal products.

Agree. We are a nation of cowards.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:46:58am

re: #204 Belafon

Agree. We are a nation of cowards.

We are and I fuckd up, I thought the man who did the shooting was the Marine.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:47:45am

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Tenn. has Stand Your Ground self-defense law

The law here says people can use deadly force anywhere _ inside or out _ provided they have “a reasonable belief that there is an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury.”

You’re excused.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:48:53am

Sre: #206 Dr. Matt

You’re excused.

It’s time to repeal these laws.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:50:09am

Okay, what happens next? One of these fuckwads brings his gun to a haunted house and shoots one of the entertainers because he was scared? You’re gong to get “the shit scared of you” sometimes in this world. That does not give you the right to shoot at someone. And you’re a fucking cowardly piece of shit if you think that gives you that right.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:50:14am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

It’s time to repeal these laws.

I agree. Ammosexuals laughed at the Left when we voiced concerns that these laws will create a new Wild West attitude. Once again, the Left is vindicated.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:50:39am

re: #203 Dr. Matt

Cool it. I was pointing out that a given legal principal (“Stand Your Ground”) is not relevant in this case because the principal it replaced (“Duty To Retreat”) would also not have been applicable. That does not justify the shooting. But you made a comment on a given legal principal and it was that principal I was addressing and no other aspect of the incident.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:51:12am

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

SYG doesn’t really apply in this case. If you’re stopped in traffic and someone is right in front of your car door, then retreat is impossible so one has no duty to do so.

The guy with the gun needs to be acting reasonable or he doesn’t needs the gun. Had he been attacked? Did the Marine have a gun that was out pointing at him?

Last night I had a black man come up to me at a 7-11 and ask to borrow my phone while I was getting gas. I asked him to wait until I was done and then let him borrow my phone. I didn’t feel a need to pull out a gun, even though I’m in Texas, unlike this guy or the lady at the Walmart who pulled hers out before the guy could get close.

A reasonable feeling of death should be the standard for when you pull your gun, not “I was scared.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:51:52am

re: #209 Dr. Matt

I agree. Ammosexuals laughed at the Left when we voiced concerns that these laws will create a new Wild West attitude. Once again, the Left is vindicated.

We’re going to continue to be laughed at until we actually take these fuckers head on. They want to call us tyrants. Let’s fight back. Let’s point out how cavalier they are about our lives and our children’s lives.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:51:54am

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Cool it. I was pointing out that a given legal principal (“Stand Your Ground”) is not relevant in this case because the principal it replaced (“Duty To Retreat”) would also not have been applicable. That does not justify the shooting. But you made a comment on a given legal principal and it was that principal I was addressing and no other aspect of the incident.

AGAIN

Tenn. has Stand Your Ground self-defense law

The law here says people can use deadly force anywhere _ inside or out _ provided they have “a reasonable belief that there is an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury.”

People can be mistaken about the nature of the threat but it has to be “believed to be real at the time” of the confrontation and based on reasonable grounds.

Within the law, there has been a presumption that people are reasonably in fear enough to justify the use of deadly force anytime an intruder breaks in or threatens someone in the home.

The legislature changed the law in 2007, with broad bipartisan support and the backing of the National Rifle Association, to extend that same treatment to people inside businesses, other buildings, cars and even tents.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:53:11am

I’m guessing that one who shot had been looking for an opportunity to shoot another human for a long while now without having to face the legal repercussions that might come with a premeditated act.

I’m sure he was afraid, but I’m also sure he’s had the safety off on his penis extension for a while now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:55:26am

re: #214 subterraneanhomesickalien

I’m guessing that one who shot had been looking for an opportunity to shoot another human for a long while now without having to face the legal repercussions that might come with a premeditated act.

I’m sure he was afraid, but I’m also sure he’s had the safety off on his penis extension for a while now.

These laws are just so fucked the fucked up in so many ways. I still can’t get over on how the woman who fired a warning shot at her abusive boyfriend or husband was punished while guys like Zimmernam get acquitted.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:56:04am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

We’re going to continue to be laughed at until we actually take these fuckers head on. They want to call us tyrants. Let’s fight back. Let’s point out how cavalier they are about our lives and our children’s lives.

Unfortunately, and sadly, I doubt it will have any impact of them. If we have learnt anything over the last 7 years, their obsession with firearms trumps everything. This madness will only get worse.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:56:43am

re: #213 Dr. Matt

AGAIN

Tenn. has Stand Your Ground self-defense law

The problem with these laws as I see it as your belief in the “threat” is so subjective and if you kill the guy, he can’t turn around and say how it wasn’t that much of a threat at all. These SYG laws to me are nothing but an attempt to legalize certain forms of homicide.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:56:56am

re: #206 Dr. Matt

You’re excused.

The critical words are: ‘reasonable belief’. If the shooter acted unreasonably, then the law does not protect him. But I remind you that road-raging people have at times shattered the windows of those they are angry at and attacked them. So the argument that the shooter acted unreasonably cannot in my opinion be dismissed out-of-hand. I do not think he was in fact being reasonable, but nonetheless it must be shown why he was being unreasonable.

Note: I admit I look at these sorts matters from a legal not moral perspective. It’s how I see such things and I’m not going to change on that point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:57:49am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

The shooter was not the one who was road raging.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:58:12am

re: #216 Dr. Matt

Unfortunately, and sadly, I doubt it will have any impact of them. If we have learnt anything over the last 7 years, their obsession with firearms trumps everything. This madness will only get worse.

Oh it won’t. I’ve grown deeply cynical about any progress since Sandy Hook. If first graders being murdered by a gun man whose mother had gun mania and enabled him with guns doesn’t change hearts, I think nothing would. What is telling to me even though these guys want guns everywhere, the NRA’s own convention is what they’d call a “gun free zone” if it was in another realm.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 7:59:08am

Grrrr…one last comment before I lose it.

How the hell did this country ever get through over 200 years without stand your ground laws?

One of the reasons may very well be we can’t control our guns.

Maybe people wouldn’t be so fucking scared if they all didn’t have to worry about everyone carry a gun and having hair-brained tempers.

Maybe if we didn’t have politicians and their media supporters running their mouths about all the scary others in our country people would not be so damned paranoid and need to carry the guns they most likely shouldn’t be carrying.

Maybe some day some people will wake the fuck up and start to put an end to it all by not being so damn partisan and face the truth about their political party.

You are not helping this country. You are helping make it a paranoid hell-hole full of nuts.

Later.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:00:54am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

The shooter was not the one who was road raging.

I’m aware of that but it is possible the shooter had a decent reason to fear the person who was raging. I don’t have the full facts so I cannot make a definitive determination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:01:57am

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

I’m aware of that but it is possible the shooter had a decent reason to fear the person who was raging. I don’t have the full facts so I cannot make a definitive determination.

But you did make a determination when you said SYG did not apply.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:02:52am

re: #221 ObserverArt

Grrrr…one last comment before I lose it.

How the hell did this country ever get through over 200 years without stand your ground laws?

One of the reasons may very well be we can’t control our guns.

Maybe people wouldn’t be so fucking scared if they all didn’t have to worry about everyone carry a gun and having hair-brained tempers.

Maybe if we didn’t have politicians and their media supporters running their mouths about all the scary others in our country people would not be so damned paranoid and need to carry the guns they most likely shouldn’t be carrying.

Maybe some day some people will wake the fuck up and start to put an end to it all by not being so damn partisan and face the truth about their political party.

You are not helping this country. You are helping make it a paranoid hell-hole full of nuts.

Later.

I’ve seen a stat. I have no idea how true it is but apparently more people have died in gun related deaths since 1968 than have in all of our wars combined. That’s horrifying to me and yes I do blame a lot of that on the paranoia that the politicians and their like minded allies in the media foster. All that talk about good guys stopping bad guys with guns, etc. Not saying that guns cannot be and should not be used for self protection but it’s gotten out of control IMO where we see guns treated almost like any other commodity and not what they are- a machine designed to kill. And whenver you do bring that up, you’re called anti-American or a gun grabber and i for one have had it with that. The other problem is the gun lobby contradicting it fucking self. What the NRA once said were common sense measures it now acts as if you were proposing Martial Law and let’s not forget how a lot of this is stemmed in racism as well.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:03:46am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

The critical words are: ‘reasonable belief’. If the shooter acted unreasonably, then the law does not protect him. .

LOL! Thanks for proving that SYG are fucking stupid. The shooter says, “You scared the shit out of me”, i.e., he had ‘reasonable belief’ because he was scared shitless.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:04:02am

You know what would be nice though if more people decided “I don’t need a gun to feel safe.” or “It’s really absurd to hoard guns thinking my government will turn in to Nazi Germany 2.0”

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:05:06am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

But you did make a determination when you said SYG did not apply.

Because the facts I know allow me to know that retreat was not an option and therefore the standard SYG replaced would not have been a bar to the shooter’s actions.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:05:39am

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

I’m aware of that but it is possible the shooter had a decent reason to fear the person who was raging. I don’t have the full facts so I cannot make a definitive determination.

I’ll bet that if the gunman had just pointed his gun at the guy who got out of the car, it would have probably stopped the guy pretty easily. I bet if he’d just left his window up nothing more would have happened than the Marine yelling at him.

“Ready. Shoot. Aim.” is not a way to handle the gun.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:05:49am

So you feel threatened and fire. The person’s dead or badly mained. Yeah the prosecution may decide SYG does not apply but guess what someone is still dead or badly maimed. And this wouldn’t happen if we didn’t have laws like SYG that encourage this.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:06:15am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

You know what would be nice though if more people decided “I don’t need a gun to feel safe.” or “It’s really absurd to hoard guns thinking my government will turn in to Nazi Germany 2.0”

Reminds me of those Tarrant county open carry fucktards that were too scared to eat at Sonic Burgers because they were not allowed to eat with their firearms. I can’t imagine going through life as such a coward.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:06:50am

re: #227 Dark_Falcon

Because the facts I know allow me to know that retreat was not an option and therefore the standard SYG replaced would not have been a bar to the shooter’s actions.

Just because you can’t run away doesn’t require you to immediately pull out your gun. Rolling up your window and locking your door is also retreating.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:08:00am

re: #230 Dr. Matt

Reminds me of those Tarrant county open carry fucktards that were too scared to eat at Sonic Burgers because they were not allowed to eat with their firearms. I can’t imagine going through life as such a coward.

No kidding. You can’t enjoy a burger without feeling threatened? And these people think people like you and me are the wussies. At least I don’t see everyone as a potential threat. I realize the vast majority of people are like me and want to live their lives. Some are assholes sure but not all assholes want me dead.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:12:43am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

No kidding. You can’t enjoy a burger without feeling threatened? And these people think people like you and me are the wussies. At least I don’t see everyone as a potential threat. I realize the vast majority of people are like me and want to live their lives. Some are assholes sure but not all assholes want me dead.

They are afraid the workers uprising will begin while they are ranting about their order of cheeseburger with NO PICKLES & EXTRA KETCHUP WHICH STUPID UNSKILLED EMPLOYEE FUCKED UP YET AGAIN!!!! WORTHLESS LAZY MOOCHERS!!!!

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:13:17am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

The critical words are: ‘reasonable belief’. If the shooter acted unreasonably, then the law does not protect him. But I remind you that road-raging people have at times shattered the windows of those they are angry at and attacked them. So the argument that the shooter acted unreasonably cannot in my opinion be dismissed out-of-hand. I do not think he was in fact being reasonable, but nonetheless it must be shown why he was being unreasonable.

Note: I admit I look at these sorts matters from a legal not moral perspective. It’s how I see such things and I’m not going to change on that point.

You know what happens to people that cant change their thinking?

They turn into cold bitter rock heads as the world changes around them. Especially when morality doesn’t seem to want to encroach on their legalities.

Reasonable believe? What the fuck. Who is to judge that in a few scary seconds. The stand your ground laws are nothing but an excuse for a lot of bad people to do bad things.

There will be a day when Stand Your Ground laws will be drastically changed if allowed to stand at all.

I hope in the meantime you don’t get shot Dark…by someone that thought you were being a reasonable threat.

Maybe I should have pulled a gun and shot the guy that pulled up behind me to let me know my tire was going down. He could have been seen as a reasonable threat. I did not know him and he could have had a gun. Maybe I thought I saw one. Yeah, that’s it.

(yeah…yeah…someone said something on the ‘net that I disagree with…later)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:15:23am

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

They are afraid the workers uprising will begin while they are ranting about their order of cheeseburger with NO PICKLES & EXTRA KETCHUP WHICH STUPID UNSKILLED EMPLOYEE FUCKED UP YET AGAIN!!!! WORTHLESS LAZY MOOCHERS!!!!

Ha probably. Really though, if you’re that insecure about your surroundings. Stay the fuck inside and away from me and my family. I’ve been in major cities, the kind of cities these guys wet themselves thinking about and I never felt like I needed a gun to feel safe there.

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rhuarc  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:16:31am

re: #194 Dr. Matt

LOL! Same city that had the old lady pull the gun on the black guy in the Walmart parking lot asking for a light because she had never been more scared in her life than at that point. I was in Murfreesboro less than a month ago. Thankfully I wasn’t shot by some asshole while there!

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:17:01am

re: #234 ObserverArt

Reasonable believe? What the fuck. Who is to judge that in a few scary seconds?

The courts have to judge that, OA, because ‘reasonable belief’ is a critical concept in law regarding the use of force.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:17:07am

What a f-ing dick.

Utah judge orders same-sex couple to give up foster child, says baby would be better off with heterosexual parents

A married Carbon County couple says they plan to fight a judge’s order that would force them to give up their infant foster daughter simply because they are lesbians.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:17:27am

You know, I was in a fender bender recently and it actually got me thinking about these laws. Fortunately my dad and the other driver resolved what happened without conflict and hell not even any anger really. Now most things I concede will probably be more heated but we can and should be able to resolve these sorts of things without feeling the need to kill someone over it. It’s okay if you want to blow off steam and call the guy a son of a bitch or a motherfucker but for the love of God, you don’t need to use your gun there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:18:33am

re: #239 Bubblehead II

What a f-ing dick.

Utah judge orders same-sex couple to give up foster child, says baby would be better off with heterosexual parents

A married Carbon County couple says they plan to fight a judge’s order that would force them to give up their infant foster daughter simply because they are lesbians.

I’m sure all the small government conservatives will be just outraged by this. And yeah I’m trolling big time here and I don’t care. I hope they fight the order like crazy. This is shit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:19:08am

re: #237 rhuarc

LOL! Same city that had the old lady pull the gun on the black guy in the Walmart parking lot asking for a light because she had never been more scared in her life than at that point. I was in Murfreesboro less than a month ago. Thankfully I wasn’t shot by some asshole while there!

I believe Murfreesboro is where there was some fear over a mosque too. Something in the water there I guess.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:20:15am

re: #238 Dark_Falcon

The courts have to judge that, OA, because ‘reasonable belief’ is a critical concept in law regarding the use of force.

And if the courts determine there was no reason to use the force, how do they bring back a guy that may have been shot dead?

You are right. There is no morality in the damn law.

How does that fit in a conservative’s views?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:21:00am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

I believe Murfreesboro is where there was some fear over a mosque too. Something in the water there I guess.

Yes. It is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:21:32am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

Yes. It is.

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Those poor kids.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:23:23am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

I’m sure all the small government conservatives will be just outraged by this. And yeah I’m trolling big time here and I don’t care. I hope they fight the order like crazy. This is shit.

The reason he gave for the order was also a pile of crap.

“He said he has research to back that children do better in heterosexual homes,” Hoagland said.

Johansen did not provide specifics of that research in court despite questions from attorneys for the Utah Division of Child and Family Services and the Guardian Ad Litem Office assigned to represent the child, Hoagland and Peirce said.

His “research” probably came from some outfit like the FRS or other like ilk

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:25:53am

re: #246 Bubblehead II

The reason he gave for the order was also a pile of crap.

“He said he has research to back that children do better in heterosexual homes,” Hoagland said.

Johansen did not provide specifics of that research in court despite questions from attorneys for the Utah Division of Child and Family Services and the Guardian Ad Litem Office assigned to represent the child, Hoagland and Peirce said.

His “research” probably came from some outfit like the FRS or other like ilk

Probably. I feel bad for those kids too. They probably had grown to know and love their foster mothers quite a bit too. It really again shows you why homophobes like this judges aren’t believers in family values at all. Their values are hate for anyone different.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:26:21am

re: #243 ObserverArt

And if the courts determine there was no reason to use the force, how do they bring back a guy that may have been shot dead?

You are right. There is no morality in the damn law.

How does that fit in a conservative’s views?

“Is the law as just as I believe possible?” is the standard I try to use.

And I’m sorry but now I must go.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:27:48am

Watching the MOH ceremony.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:29:22am

re: #249 Stanley Sea Toujours

Watching the MOH ceremony.

What wars are the winners from? It’s always touching for me when I see people get the award that were denied it in the past due to racism. I dare any right winger to watch those ceremonies and tell me that Obama does not appreciate or respect our armed forces and the sacrifices they make.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:30:30am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

What wars are the winners from? It’s always touching for me when I see people get the award that were denied it in the past due to racism. I dare any right winger to watch those ceremonies and tell me that Obama does not appreciate or respect our armed forces and the sacrifices they make.

baltimoresun.com

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:31:02am

I think its cowardly to commit homicide just to avoid having a black eye. Of course this comes with caveats.

If a woman in an abusive relationship decides that she has found the constant cracking of her orbitals bones tiring, then she is perfectly in the right to put a slug in the bastard who is responsible if he attempts to do it again.

But two men having an argument over a traffic incident ending in one fatally wounding(or just near fatally in this case) shooting the other, then that’s anarchy.

It does not make me proud to be a citizen of this country knowing that if I purposely goad another human being into a confrontation in a very discrete manner(meaning if that I am smart enough to find a way to goad another person into attacking me without having that powers that be discover my intentions) and then I am perfectly in my rights to commit murder against them.

No one should be proud of that. No one should be proud to live in a country where a fat vigilante who never had the balls to join the military where he could kill legally, goads a young man into a confrontation that’s ends up with the young man dead and the fat fucking wannabe vigilante acquitted and a political superstar to an entire segment of this country’s political spectrum.

This countries gone fucking insane.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:34:22am

I just read one of the comments on that Rawstory link, saying that if the man had chose to run the other over with his car after he exited his vehicle then he would have been charged with assault with a deadly weapon.

I found that to both humorous and frightening.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:34:54am

re: #251 Stanley Sea Toujours

baltimoresun.com

And he’s a French immigrant, good story. Good to see a fairly local guy too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:40:31am

What exactly sparked the rise in these laws anyhow? The castle doctrine is something I remember but all this seems new.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:40:48am

re: #239 Bubblehead II

What a f-ing dick.

Utah judge orders same-sex couple to give up foster child, says baby would be better off with heterosexual parents

A married Carbon County couple says they plan to fight a judge’s order that would force them to give up their infant foster daughter simply because they are lesbians.

I wonder how the case came before the judge in the first place.

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:45:24am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Gun manufacturing lobbyists wanting to see a rise in sales of their clients products.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:47:53am

re: #257 subterraneanhomesickalien

Gun manufacturing lobbyists wanting to see a rise in sales of their clients products.

Yeah sounds right.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:48:42am

re: #256 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I wonder how the case came before the judge in the first place.

From what I have picked up in the comment section it was (possibly) a termination of parental rights hearing. Something all the involved parties had no objection to and should have been a routine matter right up to the point the Judge let his bigotry get in the way. Oh, the commenters also seem to believe this is the study he used to base his decision on.

A “reality check” for the Regnerus study on gay parenting [UPDATED]

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:49:58am

re: #259 Bubblehead II

From what I have picked up in the comment section it was (possibly) a termination of parental rights hearing. Something all the involved parties had no objection to and should have been a routine matter right up to the point the Judge let his bigotry get in the way. Oh, the commenters also seem to believe this is the study he used to base his decision on.

A “reality check” for the Regnerus study on gay parenting [UPDATED]

Seems to me that Your Honor was guilty of what is called judicial activism but then again it’s only judicial activism if it’s something the cons diagree with.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:55:22am

re: #256 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I wonder how the case came before the judge in the first place.

From the story, they were in court for a procedural hearing regarding the termination of the biological mother’s parental rights, which is needed before adoption can take place. The couple - who are licensed as foster parents - have been caring for the child for the past three months. Everyone involved in the case - from the biological mother, to Utah’s Department of Child and Family Services, and the foster care organization all are in full support of them. The judge threw EVERYONE involved in the case for a loop when he handed down the edict.

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scottslemmons  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:56:47am

re: #152 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

In CCJ’s case, he was a con while in college, with his own blog and a growing reputation as a “fighter” for con causes. Basically, he was kindred spirit of Andrew Breitbart. Breitbart sought out youngsters like CCJ, Shapiro, Loesch, et alia, because they all shoot from the hip, using their internalized RW thought patterns, with little regard for accuracy, integrity, or fair play.

On the bright side, I really do think a certain number of the Breitbartian young guns are going to burn out and vanish. Some may follow their mentor’s example and kick the bucket. Some of them will follow Todd Kincannon’s example and have a mental breakdown. Some of them will follow CCJ’s example and let their anger get them in legal trouble. It wouldn’t surprise me right now if some eventually go to jail for serious crimes.

I don’t know that the Breitbartians have started a movement that can sustain itself. They’re a bunch of delusional rageoholics — it’s a miracle they haven’t already killed each other yet…

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subterraneanhomesickalien  Nov 12, 2015 • 8:57:50am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

re: #258 HappyWarrior

In the end, when you dig deep down, its always about money somehow.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:00:40am

re: #259 Bubblehead II

From what I have picked up in the comment section it was (possibly) a termination of parental rights hearing. Something all the involved parties had no objection to and should have been a routine matter right up to the point the Judge let his bigotry get in the way. Oh, the commenters also seem to believe this is the study he used to base his decision on.

A “reality check” for the Regnerus study on gay parenting [UPDATED]

Wasn’t the Regnerus study the one where there was blatant cherrypicking of data and almost everyone who was cited as sources said that he misrepresented their statements and demanded that they be removed?

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:01:25am

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:02:47am

re: #263 subterraneanhomesickalien

In the end, when you dig deep down, its always about money somehow.

That’s what my grandfather always said. All about green. I’ve never forgotten that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:06:55am

re: #265 BeachDem

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:10:33am
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lizardofid  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:10:42am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

I agree with the “follow the money” sentiment.

It looks like the ball really got rolling in Florida, in 2005. The NRA is mentioned in this article describing the genesis of the Florida law. It should be noted, that even the 2004 case the proponents of the law cited for justification, was tweaked and embellished.

“The law passed 39-0 in the Senate and 94-20 in the House, and then it swept across the nation, driven hard by the National Rifle Association, to more than two dozen other states.”

Link

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:11:47am

re: #268 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Oh stop whining. // Okay all jokes aside, wow. Seriously this shit is getting fucking old.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:12:16am

Heh.

Detained because he’s potentially trespassing on private property. Unless he’s in public space - like the museum or other areas, he’s not allowed. Oh, poor baby.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:12:25am

re: #269 lizardofid

I agree with the “follow the money” sentiment.

It looks like the ball really got rolling in Florida, in 2005. The NRA is mentioned in this article describing the genesis of the Florida law. It should be noted, that even the 2004 case the proponents of the law cited for justification, was tweaked and embellished.

“The law passed 39-0 in the Senate and 94-20 in the House, and then it swept across the nation, driven hard by the National Rifle Association, to more than two dozen other states.”

Link

Thanks. Sounds like it passed quite easily. And man do I loathe the NRA.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:13:03am

Republican congressman wishes his district MERRY CHRISTMAS==>

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:13:25am

re: #264 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Wasn’t the Regnerus study the one where there was blatant cherrypicking of data and almost everyone who was cited as sources said that he misrepresented their statements and demanded that they be removed?

Yep. It was so bad a Mich. Judge thew it out.

The Court finds Regnerus’s testimony entirely unbelievable and not worthy of serious
consideration. The evidence adduced at trial demonstrated that his 2012 “study” was hastily concocted at the behest of a third-party funder, which found it “essential that the necessary data be gathered to settle the question in the forum of public debate about what kinds of family arrangement are best for society” and which “was confident that the traditional understanding of marriage will be vindicated by this study.” See Pls.’ Motion in limine to Exclude Testimony of Mark Regnerus, Ex. 9. In the funder’s view, “the future of the institution of marriage at this moment is very uncertain” and “proper research” was needed to counter the many studies
showing no differences in child outcomes. Id. The funder also stated that “this is a project where time is of the essence.” Id. Time was of the essence at the time of the funder’s comments in April 2011, and when Dr. Regnerus published the NFSS in 2012, because decisions such as Perry v. Schwarzenegger , 704 F. Supp. 2d 921 (N.D. Cal. 2010), and Windsor v. United States

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:13:27am

re: #267 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:13:36am

re: #271 lawhawk

Heh.

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Detained because he’s potentially trespassing on private property. Unless he’s in public space - like the museum or other areas, he’s not allowed. Oh, poor baby.

Was he wearing the “Constitution” costume with the clown shoes?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:13:54am

re: #271 lawhawk

Heh.

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Detained because he’s potentially trespassing on private property. Unless he’s in public space - like the museum or other areas, he’s not allowed. Oh, poor baby.

I really wish this pathetic little fucker would find a real job rather than just being a professional douchebag. But yeah he is trespassing on private property, tough shit Jimmy. If I were to walk around at the offices of the rich douchebag that pays for your adventures, I’d get detained too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:14:21am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

Republican congressman wishes his district MERRY CHRISTMAS==>

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That’s what I am talking about when I blame politicians for fostering the paranoia.

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iossarian  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:18:17am

You know, when I think of the birth of Christ, the two images that spring immediately to mind are chain-store coffee cups and assault rifles.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:20:08am

re: #279 iossarian

You know, when I think of the birth of Christ, the two images that spring immediately to mind are chain-store coffee cups and assault rifles.

LOL I am so stealing that & Tweeting it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:20:14am

re: #279 iossarian

You know, when I think of the birth of Christ, the two images that spring immediately to mind are chain-store coffee cups and assault rifles.

It’s just so tacky.

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:20:39am

re: #271 lawhawk

Heh.

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Detained because he’s potentially trespassing on private property. Unless he’s in public space - like the museum or other areas, he’s not allowed. Oh, poor baby.

Now that is funny, made my day. If there is one person I totally can’t stand in this world it’s O’Keefe.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:20:55am

They’ll shoot their eye out but it’s okay because the 2nd amendment is holy.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:21:51am

Isn’t that group ALEC responsible for creating many of the Stand Your Ground laws? They make it easy as they write all the laws and get state and local governments the ready-to-be-passed legislation and away they go.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:23:02am

re: #284 ObserverArt

Isn’t that group ALEC responsible for creating many of the Stand Your Ground laws? They make it easy as they write all the laws and get state and local governments the ready-to-be-passed legislation and away they go.

YEah that’s right.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:28:41am

how is it by u?

It’s hazardous in my world.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:28:41am

Picking up on the Crowderheads from yesterday:

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:29:45am

re: #286 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

how is it by u?

It’s hazardous in my world.

also electrical wires are down somewhere in town.

The wind actually blew our big gas grill off the patio and onto it’s side.

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b_sharp  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:30:24am

re: #265 BeachDem

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:30:37am

re: #287 lawhawk

Picking up on the Crowderheads from yesterday:

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Yeah I don’t get this. He should have gotten a living wage. I think it’s more evidence that conservatism is at heart a resentful ideology. I DIDN’T GET A LIVING WAGE OR AFFORDABLE COLLEGE SO NO ONE ELSE SHOULD.

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:30:55am

re: #287 lawhawk

Picking up on the Crowderheads from yesterday:

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Well hell give the boy a cookie. Because that’s about all his tweet is worth.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:31:18am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get this. He should have gotten a living wage. I think it’s more evidence that conservatism is at heart a resentful ideology. I DIDN’T GET A LIVING WAGE OR AFFORDABLE COLLEGE SO NO ONE ELSE SHOULD.

Little ability to walk in another’s shoes. I call it lack of creativity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:33:30am

re: #291 Tigger2

Well hell give the boy a cookie. Because that’s about all his tweet is worth.

It’s not worth a cookie.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:33:45am

Woke up wedged between two dogs.

They have generously given me about 1/2 a cushion on the couch.

Damn, I can get good sleep and sit on my couch despite the dogs —everyone else should too!

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wrenchwench  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:34:22am

re: #271 lawhawk

Heh.

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Detained because he’s potentially trespassing on private property. Unless he’s in public space - like the museum or other areas, he’s not allowed. Oh, poor baby.

I think he specifically threatened to go there in his most recent videos.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:36:30am

Brian Kilmeade and Marco Rubio Agree That Science and Mathematics Have no Real Value

I love that young people don’t get their news from TV and this crap will eventually die out from voter/viewer (*ahem*) aging.

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lizardofid  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:36:51am

re: #284 ObserverArt

Isn’t that group ALEC responsible for creating many of the Stand Your Ground laws? They make it easy as they write all the laws and get state and local governments the ready-to-be-passed legislation and away they go.

Yep, according to the article I read, it looks like they took the Florida law nation wide.

“Only a few months after Bush signed the Florida law, Hammer worked with NRA operatives and friendly legislators on ALEC’s “Criminal Justice Task Force” to develop a new piece of “Stand Your Ground” model legislation for passage in states across the country.”

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andres  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:38:07am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

It’s not worth a cookie.

But it would be a living wage. :P

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:38:21am

I don’t understand the difference between stand your ground and self-defense. Unless it is to give white men an excuse to murder people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:38:30am

HURR HURR TEH SJW’S ARE JUST LIKE TEH NAZIS!!!!11!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:40:28am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

Republican congressman wishes his district MERRY CHRISTMAS==>

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:40:46am
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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:42:20am

This isn’t good. Multiple reports of multiple bombings in Lebanon.

Twin suicide bombings have killed at least 35 people, wounding 200+.

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Skip Intro  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:42:38am

re: #302 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It doesn’t matter. 95%+ of them will still get re-elected.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:42:51am

re: #294 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Woke up wedged between two dogs.

They have generously given me about 1/2 a cushion on the couch.

Damn, I can get good sleep and sit on my couch despite the dogs —everyone else should too!

It’s time for some photos of Feral Girl.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:43:02am

Projecting Mightily, Trump Suggests Hillary Clinton Is Wearing a Wig

Do you think Trump is aware that many African-American women wear wigs or hair pieces?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:43:24am

re: #296 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Brian Kilmeade and Marco Rubio Agree That Science and Mathematics Have no Real Value

I love that young people don’t get their news from TV and this crap will eventually die out from voter/viewer (*ahem*) aging.

I wouldn’t expect these two morons to appreciate those disciplines. Using Marco’s “logic” and yes I know it was a joke but people shouldn’t be soldiers because they’re not paid well. There’s more to life than money.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:43:26am

re: #293 The Vicious Babushka

Apparently, he thinks his bosses were right to pay him sub-living wage.

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:43:35am

It’s funny hearing Ben call others pantywaist when Zoe made Ben her bitch.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:44:46am

re: #309 Tigger2

It’s funny hearing Ben call others pantywaist when Zoe made Ben her bitch.

No kidding.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:44:51am

re: #302 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Planned Parenthood ✔ @PPact

Congress’ job approval rating slipped to 11%. We wonder if it has to do with their relentless attacks on PP & #ACA? ppact.io

12:30 PM - 12 Nov 2015

Amazing. The idiots from Congress running for President watch all their polling numbers and wonder why they have no traction against the likes of Trump, Carson and Fiorina.

Here is your clue. America knows you suck at your jobs. They want you gone.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:45:23am

re: #306 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Projecting Mightily, Trump Suggests Hillary Clinton Is Wearing a Wig

Do you think Trump is aware that many African-American women wear wigs or hair pieces?

Trump’s daughter converted to Orthodox Judaism, do you think he wouldn’t know religious Jewish women wear wigs?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:45:24am

Yesterday it was Abortion Coffee, today it is Poop Truthers:

Meet the poop truthers: Conservatives deny Mizzou feces swastika even though police saw it

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:45:54am

re: #308 lawhawk

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Apparently, he thinks his bosses were right to pay him sub-living wage.

People like that are helpless in their ignorance and contempt for anyone who thinks they should have a better life for their families.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:46:33am

re: #303 lawhawk

This isn’t good. Multiple reports of multiple bombings in Lebanon.

Twin suicide bombings have killed at least 35 people, wounding 200+.

So fucking mad at myself for missing the chance to visit Lebanon a few years ago, weeks before Anthony Bourdain was there when the shit hit the fan. Sigh. I don’t think there will ever be another chance in the near or near distant future. :(

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:46:33am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:46:53am

re: #292 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Little ability to walk in another’s shoes. I call it lack of creativity.

More empathy then creativity IMO.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:46:58am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

Yesterday it was Abortion Coffee, today it is Poop Truthers:

Meet the poop truthers: Conservatives deny Mizzou feces swastika even though police saw it

SUPPORT OUR POLICE!!!!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:47:44am

re: #318 GlutenFreeJesus

SUPPORT OUR POLICE!!!!!!!!!!

Support our poo!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:48:04am

re: #305 Stanley Sea Toujours

It’s time for some photos of Feral Girl.

Sure, just explain to me how to get them from the icloud connected to my iphone to the icloud connected to my macbook.

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:48:40am

re: #284 ObserverArt

Isn’t that group ALEC responsible for creating many of the Stand Your Ground laws? They make it easy as they write all the laws and get state and local governments the ready-to-be-passed legislation and away they go.

And in Florida, they’re often so eager to get the legislation going, they don’t even bother to remove the ALEC byline. (This one was about taxes)

Oops: Florida Republican Forgets To Remove ALEC Mission Statement From Boilerplate Anti-Tax Bill

thinkprogress.org

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Timothy Watson  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:49:01am

re: #316 lawhawk

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HURR HURR IF IT WAS REAL WHY DIDN’T THE COPS GET A DNA SAMPLE FROM EVERYONE?!!?!?!?!?

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TedStriker  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:49:02am

re: #320 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Sure, just explain to me how to get them from the icloud connected to my iphone to the icloud connected to my macbook.

If you use these same Apple ID on both, it should be accessible from both.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:49:39am

re: #316 lawhawk

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There’s no chance that UpChuck was in Missouri when this happened…right?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:50:00am

re: #323 TedStriker

If you use these same Apple ID on both, it should be accessible from both.

I have this idea that they should just be there in my “pictures”. They may well be, but I can’t find them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:50:10am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Support our poo!

Support our poo lease!

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:50:24am

re: #315 GlutenFreeJesus

So fucking mad at myself for missing the chance to visit Lebanon a few years ago, weeks before Anthony Bourdain was there when the shit hit the fan. Sigh. I don’t think there will ever be another chance in the near or near distant future. :(

Definitely more dangerous place to go than a few years ago, what with IS trying to bogart it’s way into areas controlled by Hizbullah, plus overflow from the Syrian civil war as refugees stress a country already teetering on the edge with sectarian strife held in check by the slimmest of margins.

They are stuck between the proverbial rock and hard place.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:51:20am

re: #320 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Sure, just explain to me how to get them from the icloud connected to my iphone to the icloud connected to my macbook.

No idear.

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:51:21am

Another side effect of wage diminishment…

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Jenner7  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:51:51am

This bigot judge needs to be removed immediately.

PRICE — A juvenile court judge has ordered the removal of a foster child from a lesbian couple because they are gay, according to Utah’s Division of Child and Family Services.

The two women, April Hoagland and Beckie Peirce, were in court for a routine hearing Tuesday when 7th District Juvenile Judge Scott Johansen announced he was ordering that the 1-year-old girl they have been caring for over the past three months be removed from their home within a week, DCFS director Brent Platt said Wednesday.

According to the judge, the child would be better off with a heterosexual couple.

ksl.com

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jaunte  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:52:02am

Back to the 40’s!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:52:18am

re: #327 lawhawk

Yup. Such a shame too. Everything my friends have told me about Lebanon = I won’t give up hope for that country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:52:33am

re: #329 jaunte

Another side effect of wage diminishment…

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And we get called lazy for still living with mom and dad but no scorn at all for cheap skate employers.

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:53:00am

re: #289 b_sharp

I remember reading about that one and shaking my head so hard my eyes rolled back. If I recall, he was ridiculed unmercifully!

Yeesh, people are so damn scared of their own shadows. My theory is that when your time is up, you’re going, and that I’ll probably get run over by a tourist’s SUV in a grocery store parking lot.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:53:50am

re: #330 Jenner7

The judge in this case is Richard Posner. It seems I’ve heard his name before. Does anyone remember him for any reason?

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:54:02am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t get this. He should have gotten a living wage. I think it’s more evidence that conservatism is at heart a resentful ideology. I DIDN’T GET A LIVING WAGE OR AFFORDABLE COLLEGE SO NO ONE ELSE SHOULD.

I would also like to point out that Ann Arbor, where I believe the Crowderhead lives, has a living wage ordinance.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:54:13am

re: #330 Jenner7

This bigot judge needs to be removed immediately.

ksl.com

Your late to the show #239 :-)

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:55:06am

re: #329 jaunte

Another side effect of wage diminishment…

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:55:20am

re: #332 GlutenFreeJesus

Yup. Such a shame too. Everything my friends have told me about Lebanon = I won’t give up hope for that country.

If Israel were to engage in another peace deal with its neighbors, Lebanon would be the one to do it with - and it would probably benefit Lebanon greatly - vastly improve their business, tourism, and other industries. Relieve pressure from Palestinian refugee camps, etc.

Lebanon could actually profit from its location to take on the Gulf States that have transitioned to a banking-type economy rather than completely oil dependent. Instead of traveling hours more to the Emirates, Beirut (the old Paris of the Eastern Med) would be a welcome alternative.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:55:33am

re: #335 Belafon

The judge in this case is Richard Posner. It seems I’ve heard his name before. Does anyone remember him for any reason?

Name rings a bell.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:56:28am

re: #338 Tigger2

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Exactly. But instead stupid privileged right wing assholes will use it to call this generation lazy.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:57:28am

re: #273 The Vicious Babushka

Republican congressman wishes his district MERRY CHRISTMAS==>

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That’s a bipod and scope equipped FAL, a 7.62x51mm rifle. Congressman Smith likely uses it to hunt wild game, especially feral hogs, which are a major problem in Texas. So he’s holding up a rifle configured for hunting.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:58:04am

re: #335 Belafon

The judge in this case is Richard Posner. It seems I’ve heard his name before. Does anyone remember him for any reason?

Posner? There’s a Richard Posner who is a federal court judge in Illinois - 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to be specific. He’s also a well respected jurist and lecturer who has written quite a few books.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:58:18am

re: #342 Dark_Falcon

That’s a bipod and scope equipped FAL, a 7.62x51mm rifle. Congressman Smith likely uses it to hunt wild game, especially feral hogs, which are a major problem in Texas. So he’s holding up a rifle configured for hunting.

Don’t go all Dana on me, bro!

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Timothy Watson  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:58:21am

re: #335 Belafon

The judge in this case is Richard Posner. It seems I’ve heard his name before. Does anyone remember him for any reason?

There’s a Richard Posner who’s on the (federal) 7th Circuit Court of Appeals

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Archangelus  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:58:26am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Name rings a bell.

Isn’t he the judge who made news last year for stating that the NSA should have unlimited ability to collect whatever information it wants?

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Jenner7  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:58:54am

re: #335 Belafon

The judge is Scott Johansen. He’s a 7th district juvenile judge. He’s had many controversial rulings such as ordering a Mother to cut her daughter’s ponytail in court. He sounds like a dick.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:59:06am

re: #343 lawhawk

Posner? There’s a Richard Posner who is a federal court judge in Illinois - 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to be specific. He’s also a well respected jurist and lecturer who has written quite a few books.

Right. Keep telling yourself that that is why he is brandishing it for his idiot followers.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:59:16am

Good afternoon, lézards

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Tigger2  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:59:42am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Exactly. But instead stupid privileged right wing assholes will use it to call this generation lazy.

That might change since the problem will start affecting more and more of their kids and grand kids, they won’t want to be seen as raising lazy kids. I’m talking about the not so privileged Republican assholes.

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TedStriker  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:59:45am

re: #335 Belafon

The judge in this case is Richard Posner. It seems I’ve heard his name before. Does anyone remember him for any reason?

No, Scott Johansen is the UT state judge in this case; I don’t know where you got Richard Posner from, because he’s a federal judge for the 7th Circuit in Chicago.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 9:59:55am

re: #343 lawhawk

Posner? There’s a Richard Posner who is a federal court judge in Illinois - 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to be specific. He’s also a well respected jurist and lecturer who has written quite a few books.

I think it’s a coincidence name wise. No reason why a seventh court of appeals judge would be involved in a Utah case. Thanks I knew Posner was a federal judge but not where he was based out of.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:00:45am

re: #347 Jenner7

The judge is Scott Johansen. He’s a 7th district juvenile judge. He’s had many controversial rulings such as ordering a Mother to cut her daughter’s ponytail in court. He sounds like a dick.

OK. I guess I got the names confused when I read an article about the case.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:00:55am

re: #349 De Kolta Chair

Good afternoon, lézards

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Is that the guy who “flies through the air with the greatest of ease”?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:01:52am

Here comes the latest conservative “PC” faux outrage…..

She’s not called ‘Princess’ Leia anymore

There are heroes, and monsters, a castle, and magic and machines that defy belief. There’s even a princess, although … nobody in the galaxy calls Leia that anymore.

“She’s referred to as General,” says director and co-writer J.J. Abrams. “But … there’s a moment in the movie where a character sort of slips and calls her ‘Princess.’”

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TedStriker  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:02:09am

re: #352 HappyWarrior

I think it’s a coincidence name wise. No reason why a seventh court of appeals judge would be involved in a Utah case. Thanks I knew Posner was a federal judge but not where he was based out of.

Posner’s position on same-sex marriage:

Same-sex marriage[edit]
Posner authored the opinion of a three-judge panel on the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to rule that Indiana and Wisconsin’s bans on same-sex marriage were unconstitutional, affirming a lower court ruling.[29] During oral arguments, Wisconsin’s Attorney General cited tradition as a reason for maintaining the ban, prompting Posner to note that: “It was tradition to not allow blacks and whites to marry - a tradition that got swept away.” Posner claimed that the same-sex marriage bans were both “a tradition of hate” and “savage discrimination”.[30] Posner wrote the opinion for the unanimous panel, suggesting the laws unconstitutional under the Equal Protection Clause.

He’s one of the good guys.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:02:20am

re: #347 Jenner7

The judge is Scott Johansen. He’s a 7th district juvenile judge. He’s had many controversial rulings such as ordering a Mother to cut her daughter’s ponytail in court. He sounds like a dick.

Wow. I’m sure he’s fun at parties.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:02:36am

re: #351 TedStriker

No, Scott Johansen is the UT state judge in this case; I don’t know where you got Richard Posner in that story from, because he’s a federal judge for the 7th Circuit in Chicago.

I read some article about this case, and saw his name in it. I could have been mixing names.

To everyone: My memory’s mixing things up.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:02:52am

And that’s different than the rest of the GOP how? Most of the candidates believe junk science and are climate change denialists. That Paul dips into this malarkey isn’t surprising. It would be surprising if he said that global warming was true and backed by science.

But since Paul believes all sorts of nonsense, this is not surprising.

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Jenner7  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:02:52am

re: #337 Bubblehead II

Sorry, I buzzed through and didn’t see it.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:03:07am

re: #344 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t go all Dana on me, bro!

I’m not going Dana on you, though I am going slightly Bernie Sanders by pointing out a hunting rifle. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:03:20am

re: #356 TedStriker

Posner’s position on same-sex marriage:

Yeah and we see now that it was a Judge Johansen that issued this homophobic trash ruling.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:03:37am

Ok, I found the pix in apple something on my macbook. Now how do I get them to show up in a way I can download them. They don’t seem to appear anywhere in Finder. They are in Photos which doesn’t seem to be accessable from finder.

I go into Finder, click All my Files, type in the beginning of the file name and the picture does not show up.

there is no way to properly save it in Photos —only name it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:04:10am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

Here comes the latest conservative “PC” faux outrage…..

She’s not called ‘Princess’ Leia anymore

I find that hard to believe. Disney would make billions including Leia in the Princess franchise.

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:04:54am

re: #343 lawhawk

Posner? There’s a Richard Posner who is a federal court judge in Illinois - 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to be specific. He’s also a well respected jurist and lecturer who has written quite a few books.

Was just going to say the same thing. Also:

The two women, April Hoagland and Beckie Peirce, were in court for a routine hearing Tuesday when 7th District Juvenile Judge Scott Johansen announced he was ordering that the 1-year-old girl they have been caring for over the past three months be removed from their home within a week, DCFS director Brent Platt said Wednesday.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:05:13am

re: #361 Dark_Falcon

I’m not going Dana on you, though I am going slightly Bernie Sanders by pointing out a hunting rifle. ;)

I really think it’s unbecoming for a Congressman to pimp out weapons. Maybe that’s just me but in a time where gun violence happens frequently, I find it in poor taste. Btw I’ve never seen Bernie pose with guns like they’re toys.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:05:18am

Ok, exported it to Pictures file —it is too large to upload to LGF.

What a pain in the ass.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:05:21am

re: #242 HappyWarrior

I believe Murfreesboro is where there was some fear over a mosque too. Something in the water there I guess.

Brain eating grubs.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:06:01am

re: #368 Eventual Carrion

Brain eating grubs.

prions?

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Timothy Watson  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:07:55am

re: #356 TedStriker

Posner’s position on same-sex marriage:

He’s one of the good guys.

On SSM maybe, I seem to recall him writing something saying that torturing a terrorism suspect should be considered “civil disobedience”.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:08:16am

re: #369 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

prions?

Aliens.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:08:24am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

I find that hard to believe. Disney would make billions including Leia in the Princess franchise.

Where would mother Leia fit in as a princess?

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:08:50am

re: #354 The Vicious Babushka

Is that the guy who “flies through the air with the greatest of ease”?

No, you’re thinking of Judge Posner.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:09:12am

re: #350 Tigger2

That might change since the problem will start affecting more and more of their kids and grand kids, they won’t want to be seen as raising lazy kids. I’m talking about the not so privileged Republican assholes.

whatever it takes.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:10:57am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

Princess of what? A pile of rocks floating through space?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:11:37am

I heard a part of a report on Sirius NPR last week. A recent college graduate was interviewed about life skills. She was a mechnical engineer and had just landed a job making $81K. She didn’t understand that she had to get a car and to do so had to finance it. She had no understanding of the process and as a result did not have enough for a down payment.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:11:39am

It feels weird thinking of a middle aged woman as a princess anyhow. Same reason why I smirk when I hear “Prince Phillip”, dude is a 90+ year old prince and from what I know not always charming.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:11:59am

re: #375 Dr. Matt

Princess of what? A pile of rocks floating through space?

Hey, those rocks could be worth some money if we ever figure out a way to mine them!

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EmmaAnne  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:12:10am

re: #363 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Ok, I found the pix in apple something on my macbook. Now how do I get them to show up in a way I can download them. They don’t seem to appear anywhere in Finder. They are in Photos which doesn’t seem to be accessable from finder.

I go into Finder, click All my Files, type in the beginning of the file name and the picture does not show up.

there is no way to properly save it in Photos —only name it.

When you export them from the app you can choose the size.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:13:01am

re: #379 EmmaAnne

Export them from the app.

Serious PITA. It was easier when I just took the little SD card out of my old camera.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:13:15am

re: #376 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I heard a part of a report on Sirius NPR last week. A recent college graduate was interviewed about life skills. She was a mechnical engineer and had just landed a job making $81K. She didn’t understand that she had to get a car and to do so had to finance it. She had no understanding of the process and as a result did not have enough for a down payment.

Shit 81 K as a recent grad. I’d be happy with half that.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:14:04am

re: #375 Dr. Matt

Princess of what? A pile of rocks floating through space?

Shots fired.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:14:42am

newborn GIANT PANDAS!!!

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:15:27am

re: #382 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Shots fired.

And Han Shot First.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:15:42am

Things a GOPer would do.

Complain about a public service. Get said service shuttered. Get arrested for the act for which said public service would address.

Alas, this was in Scotland, not the US:

gawker.com

A Scottish chief councillor who voted earlier this year to shut down all public toilets in his district of South Lanarkshire was fined by police Saturday morning for hmm guess what pissing in the street.

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wrenchwench  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:15:43am

re: #376 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I heard a part of a report on Sirius NPR last week. A recent college graduate was interviewed about life skills. She was a mechnical engineer and had just landed a job making $81K. She didn’t understand that she had to get a car and to do so had to finance it. She had no understanding of the process and as a result did not have enough for a down payment.

You’d think there are some industries out there profiting from people’s financial ignorance. Otherwise they’d teach finance in high school.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:16:11am

re: #347 Jenner7

The judge is Scott Johansen. He’s a 7th district juvenile judge. He’s had many controversial rulings such as ordering a Mother to cut her daughter’s ponytail in court. He sounds like a dick.

He can have the pony tail out of my cold …

WTF?

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Timothy Watson  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:16:51am

re: #376 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I heard a part of a report on Sirius NPR last week. A recent college graduate was interviewed about life skills. She was a mechnical engineer and had just landed a job making $81K. She didn’t understand that she had to get a car and to do so had to finance it. She had no understanding of the process and as a result did not have enough for a down payment.

*sigh* A lot of college have required classes which are supposed to teach basic financial literacy to undergraduates.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:16:57am

re: #386 wrenchwench

You’d think there are some industries out there profiting from people’s financial ignorance. Otherwise they’d teach finance in high school.

I think it was a piece on schools teaching life skills.

I guess parents aren’t expected to teach it at home, like they are sex and reproduction.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:17:18am

...

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:17:44am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

Here comes the latest conservative “PC” faux outrage…..

She’s not called ‘Princess’ Leia anymore

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU START LETTING MEN USE WOMENS BATHROOMS!!!!

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wrenchwench  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:18:15am

re: #389 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I think it was a piece on schools teaching life skills.

I guess parents aren’t expected to teach it at home, like they are sex and reproduction.

Some parents are not competent to teach any of those things.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:19:02am

I did take a math course that taught some financial stuff.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:19:22am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

Here comes the latest conservative “PC” faux outrage…..

She’s not called ‘Princess’ Leia anymore

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:19:47am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

Here comes the latest conservative “PC” faux outrage…..

She’s not called ‘Princess’ Leia anymore

Do you remember the shrieks out outrage a couple of weeks ago when they decided to stop selling the doll (sorry action figure) of Leia wearing the brass bikini?

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blueraven  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:20:09am

re: #268 Stanley Sea Toujours

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That tweet has been deleted. It was not a noose.
People are on edge, nerves frayed….mistakes made.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:20:20am

re: #360 Jenner7

Sorry, I buzzed through and didn’t see it.

Was just ribbing you. Long threads tend to have several links to the same story as Lizards show up during the day.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:20:21am
Sofa Dawgs
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:20:35am

re: #393 HappyWarrior

I did take a math course that taught some financial stuff.

We did it in 7th Grade.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:21:28am

re: #385 lawhawk

Actually, Lawhawk, that foolish local legislator isn’t a Tory:

Jackie Burns, 51, was caught short just months after overseeing the closure of public loos in his area of South Lanarkshire in Scotland.

He was waiting in a taxi rank in the early hours of Saturday morning when he suddenly needed the toilet and relieved himself down a nearby lane in Hamilton town centre, Scotland.

He said: “I was approached by police, who gave me a £40 fine which I have duly paid. I am embarrassed by the incident and have apologised.”

Mr Burns is a Labour councillor and deputy leader of South Lanarkshire council.

Back in May, he announced that all the council’s public conveniences were closing as part of £22 million cutbacks by the Scottish Government.

The Labour Party under Jeremy Corbyn: Pissing its chances away.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:21:58am

re: #395 The Vicious Babushka

Do you remember the shrieks out outrage a couple of weeks ago when they decided to stop selling the doll (sorry action figure) of Leia wearing the brass bikini?

All the fanboys with the unopened packages of the Slave Leia are excited because the price for the action figure will now skyrocket.

My guess? JJ Abrams has 1 million of them sitting around waiting for the right moment to profit. /

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:22:22am

re: #394 De Kolta Chair

I’d rather be a General than a Prince(ss).

Just saying.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:23:03am

re: #399 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I did it even before that, paying attention to what my parents were doing.

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Jenner7  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:23:06am

Here is another insane ruling by this judge, he also slapped a child in court:

Judge Johansen has received criticism for his controversial rulings in the past. He once sent a teenage boy to juvenile detention for violating his probation by receiving poor grades on his report card. (The boy had initially been accused of stealing a pack of gum.) In 1997, Johansen slapped a 16-year-old boy during a meeting at a courthouse and was reprimanded by the Utah Judicial Conduct Commission for “demeaning the judicial office.” In 2012, Johansen ordered the mother of a 13-year-old girl to cut off her daughter’s ponytail in public court as punishment for the teen, who’d cut a 3-year-old’s hair at a restaurant.

jezebel.com

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:23:10am
delfriscosgrille.com
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:23:37am

re: #402 GlutenFreeJesus

I’d rather be a General than a Prince(ss).

Just saying.

Disney doesn’t make much money from Generals.

Fun trivia question: which Disney Princess is also a General?

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:24:15am

re: #400 Dark_Falcon

I never said it was. I said it’s something that a GOPer here in the states would do. Big difference. I didn’t equate the party affiliation in Scotland to that in the States.

Demand the end of a public service. Then get himself in trouble/arrested for not doing something that the public service would have addressed.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:25:14am

re: #396 blueraven

That tweet has been deleted. It was not a noose.
People are on edge, nerves frayed….mistakes made.

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Cool. Thanks.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:26:00am

re: #398 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Thank you! Sorry for the pain.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:26:12am

re: #388 Timothy Watson

*sigh* A lot of college have required classes which are supposed to teach basic financial literacy to undergraduates.

Mine sure as hell didn’t.

I taught several friends the rudiments of retirement savings and the difference between Roth and traditional IRAs during college. Most of them are very grateful to me now. I was lucky in that I learned it from my parents - but that’s because I grew up in an upper middle class household where investing was something that was done, in addition to saving money, and my dad was willing to teach me.

Mechanical engineering pays hella well because there are relatively few who make it all the way through the program and the demand is still pretty high. A lot of them take more than 4 years to get through, though, so the debt load could still be fairly high.

Also, I admit I wouldn’t have the first idea about how car financing works because that is something that is not done in my family. The negotiation for the last new car that mr. klys and I got consisted of me walking in, having figured out what the average cost for what we wanted was in the area, and informing the salesperson that this was our top figure and if they were unwilling to work with that we would go to another dealership.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:26:29am

re: #402 GlutenFreeJesus

I’d rather be a General than a Prince(ss).

Just saying.

Wimmens are incapable of fighting in combat!!!1!!

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:26:59am

re: #406 The Vicious Babushka

Mulan

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:27:44am

re: #407 lawhawk

I never said it was. I said it’s something that a GOPer here in the states would do. Big difference. I didn’t equate the party affiliation in Scotland to that in the States.

Demand the end of a public service. Then get himself in trouble/arrested for not doing something that the public service would have addressed.

I saw what you meant. And I would think that Jeremy Cornyn is fine with public bathrooms.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:27:54am

Well shitfire, looks like Mitt Romney was right after all==>

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:29:52am

re: #410 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Mine sure as hell didn’t.

I taught several friends the rudiments of retirement savings and the difference between Roth and traditional IRAs during college. Most of them are very grateful to me now. I was lucky in that I learned it from my parents - but that’s because I grew up in an upper middle class household where investing was something that was done, in addition to saving money, and my dad was willing to teach me.

Mechanical engineering pays hella well because there are relatively few who make it all the way through the program and the demand is still pretty high. A lot of them take more than 4 years to get through, though, so the debt load could still be fairly high.

Also, I admit I wouldn’t have the first idea about how car financing works because that is something that is not done in my family. The negotiation for the last new car that mr. klys and I got consisted of me walking in, having figured out what the average cost for what we wanted was in the area, and informing the salesperson that this was our top figure and if they were unwilling to work with that we would go to another dealership.

I lke the idea of a financial math gen ed.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:30:36am

re: #287 lawhawk

He is lying. You cannot support a wife and kids on less than a living wage without help. It’s not possible. Someone either gave him a place to live, help with food and utilities, or something. The math doesn’t work. Hell, rent on a cheap ass apartment takes over half of an 8-10 dollar an hour “living wage”. Unless to him living wage is more than 20 dollars an hour he’s full of shit.

But then, we know that, don’t we?

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:30:37am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

Well shitfire, looks like Mitt Romney was right after all==>

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He’s still wrong, because he was talking about Jeep, which is a division of Chrysler. Buick, as you know, is a division of GM.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:30:46am

re: #415 HappyWarrior

I lke the idea of a financial math gen ed.

In high school, preferably.

Learning how to deal with money should be standard, not advanced education.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:30:54am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

Well shitfire, looks like Mitt Romney was right after all==>

It’s the steal of the century!

1973 Buick Century Commercial - The Steal of the Century

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:32:30am

re: #418 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In high school, preferably.

Learning how to deal with money should be standard, not advanced education.

Yes.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:32:30am

re: #402 GlutenFreeJesus

I’d rather be a General than a Prince(ss).

Just saying.

Till you have to send young men to their deaths its a better job. When you have to do that it sucks massively.

BBL

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:33:11am

Have you guys heard about the new Italian sportscar that has zero emissions?

Its called the Runzonli Downhill

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:33:19am

They’re just clones.

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Archangelus  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:35:03am

Rawstory: Trump Shocked by Hillary Clinton’s hair

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said this week that he found Hillary Clinton’s hair to be “shocking.”

During an interview on Wednesday, conservative radio host Mark Levin asked the billionaire to comment on Clinton’s “new hairdo,” which he suggested was a wig.

“I tell you what it really was shocking to see it because you’re right it must be, it was massive,” Trump quipped. “Her hair became massive.”

The candidate insisted that he wasn’t concerned about any repercussions after criticizing Clinton’s appearance.

“I don’t care. I’m a person that tells the truth,” he said. “You know it was interesting to see but I’ve never seen Hillary with that hairdo so I think that’s an OK thing to say, but it was very different.”

That’s rich coming from Mr. Roadkill-top…

Trump
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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:35:21am

re: #388 Timothy Watson

*sigh* A lot of college have required classes which are supposed to teach basic financial literacy to undergraduates.

A lot of high schools do as well. And credit unions have really gotten involved.

nerdwallet.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:35:38am

re: #416 A Mom Anon

He is lying. You cannot support a wife and kids on less than a living wage without help. It’s not possible. Someone either gave him a place to live, help with food and utilities, or something. The math doesn’t work. Hell, rent on a cheap ass apartment takes over half of an 8-10 dollar an hour “living wage”. Unless to him living wage is more than 20 dollars an hour he’s full of shit.

But then, we know that, don’t we?

Everytime I read these I just think about all the bullshit these people are spewing. As I said so much of their ideology is driven by resentment. IF they didn’t get a living wage, no one else should.

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:35:52am

Yugoslavia is also putting out a new class of economy cars…

Its called the Yugo Screwyerself

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Kragar  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:36:27am

OK, those were both my car jokes. I’m done.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:36:30am

re: #424 Archangelus

Rawstory: Trump: Shocked by Hillary Clinton’s hair

That’s rich coming from Mr. Roadkill-top…

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What’s he going to next? Accuse of caring too much about material elath?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:36:56am

re: #427 Kragar

Yugoslavia is also putting out a new class of economy cars…

Its called the Yugo Screwyerself

YOU SUCK!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:37:52am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:38:27am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

Everytime I read these I just think about all the bullshit these people are spewing. As I said so much of their ideology is driven by resentment. IF they didn’t get a living wage, no one else should.

I think a lot of these Crowderbots are just making shit up. The other day I had some guy insist that he paid off all tuition AND paid for all his own rent, food, transportation, etc. on the weirdly specific amount of $7.76/hr (maybe because he knew that $1.77 was just too unrealistic)

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KGxvi  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:39:51am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

I saw that episode of Top Gear… This isn’t going to work out well

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:40:56am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

I think a lot of these Crowderbots are just making shit up. The other day I had some guy insist that he paid off all tuition AND paid for all his own rent, food, transportation, etc. on the weirdly specific amount of $7.76/hr (maybe because he knew that $1.77 was just too unrealistic)

That’s why I said bullshit, I think os many of their “stories” are either outright lies or leaving out key details like having mom and dad help out. I still think a lot of the right wing ideology is driven by resnemtne though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:42:32am

re: #432 The Vicious Babushka

I think a lot of these Crowderbots are just making shit up. The other day I had some guy insist that he paid off all tuition AND paid for all his own rent, food, transportation, etc. on the weirdly specific amount of $7.76/hr (maybe because he knew that $1.77 was just too unrealistic)

There was a time when students at state colleges could just about afford to support themselves and pay their tuition on part-time jobs during the semester and full-time summer vacation work.

That golden age ended long ago.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:43:52am

re: #424 Archangelus

Rawstory: Trump: Shocked by Hillary Clinton’s hair

That’s rich coming from Mr. Roadkill-top…

I’m sure Hill will just brush off his smarmy remarks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:43:56am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:44:19am

re: #435 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when students at state colleges could just about afford to support themselves and pay their tuition on part-time jobs during the semester and full-time summer vacation work.

That golden age ended long ago.

Which is what people who tell young people who want better wages and more afordable tutiion to shut up because I worked hard blah blah need to consider.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:44:42am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:45:17am

re: #437 The Vicious Babushka

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Preicsely, man though I did not realize that it was that huge a contrast.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:46:15am

re: #438 HappyWarrior

Which is what people who tell young people who want better wages and more afordable tutiion to shut up because I worked hard blah blah need to consider.

They won’t ever reconsider because I GOT MINE FUCK YOU

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:46:38am

My wonderful neighbor just knocked on my door to tell me he was going to right the grill. (the hazardous weather conditions hurled it from the patio to the yard and onto it’s side)

:)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:47:31am

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

They won’t ever reconsider because I GOT MINE FUCK YOU

Oh bleive me I know but but it’s that they need to consider the next time they tell a 20 some to shut up abut his wages or college tuition. They won’t but they absolutely should.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:47:40am

re: #418 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We had that at my high school as part of the general math curriculum. It was called Everyday Math, 6 weeks of the year long class and it was required for graduation. Learned balancing a checkbook, creating a household budget, about checking and savings accounts, credit cards, car loans, etc. This was in the late 70’s and probably not common. I went to a really great high school, at the time at least. From what I know now, most of those things were cut out of the budget (civics, shop and home ec classes, art, etc went too) in the mid 80s and never came back. I was a dumb ass kid then of course and didn’t realize how blessed I was to have that.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:48:09am

re: #437 The Vicious Babushka

At the current US minimum wage, you would have to work around 340 8 hr days to pay for a year of college, room, and board.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:48:44am

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

They won’t ever reconsider because I GOT MINE FUCK YOU

At some point I learned that stuff is transient. I’ve had friends work their assess off, scrimp, save, do without and still lose it all in downturn in the market, or get cancer before they get to spend on their retirement years.

I got mine is bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:49:14am

re: #445 Belafon

At the current US minimum wage, you would have to work around 340 8 hr days to pay for a year of college, room, and board.

That is just insane.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:49:23am

re: #445 Belafon

At the current US minimum wage, you would have to work around 340 8 hr days to pay for a year of college, room, and board.

and do you get to buy soap or books?

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whitebeach  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:49:51am

re: #418 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In high school, preferably.

Learning how to deal with money should be standard, not advanced education.

Absolutely. A course in basic logic and rhetoric should also be required. As it stands now kids have zero formal preparation for meeting or even recognizing the countless forms of bullshit that await them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:50:02am

re: #446 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

At some point I learned that stuff is transient. I’ve had friends work their assess off, scrimp, save, do without and still lose it all in downturn in the market, or get cancer before they get to spend on their retirement years.

I got mine is bullshit.

It is but it’s how one of our political parties operates.

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:50:28am

re: #448 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

and do you get to buy soap or books?

I’m assuming that’s what you do with the other 25 days. The number I found was just the college expenses.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:50:34am

re: #448 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

and do you get to buy soap or books?

or food or yes recreation.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:51:34am

10 years ago, the books alone were a two week paycheck for me.
Can’t imagine it’s gotten any better.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:52:13am

It’s always been amazing to me that the simplicity of household finance is lost on 90% of the population. Every month (or pay period) put something in savings first, pay your bills and the rest is yours.

Saying that, I know and understand the way to do it, doesn’t mean I’ve always been able to. Even if I never ran up a Visa or splurged on a new pair of jeans, Life happens. Sinus infections, broken arms, dog get’s sick, wind blows roof tiles off the house, car breaks down … .

The system is easy, implementation is difficult even for the most financial OCD.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:52:55am

re: #453 Not a Sparkly Vampire

10 years ago, the books alone were a two week paycheck for me.
Can’t imagine it’s gotten any better.

A lot are on-line now.

I think my kid spent less than $400.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:53:50am

re: #440 HappyWarrior

The average cost of a public college per year is over $9000 per year.

If you’re trying to support yourself while in college, that means you’d need to take out significant loans to cover since minimum wage full time nets you only - $12,687.50 (35 hours, 50 weeks x $7.25). Heck, even if you were working 40 hours, 52 weeks, you’d end up with $15,080 per year (and no time to go to actual classes).

You’d need to pay for books and other costs as well, so you’re looking at least $40,000 in student loans [for 4 years]. Because most people do not end up with full ride scholarships. Most end up having to take on loans to cover costs and tuition.

So, if you’re going to school full time, you’re decreasing your wages by a number of hours - reducing the amount of money you have available for shelter, food, and transportation.

Now, when tuition was $1600 for a year, and the minimum wage was about $5.50, you had a better chance of being able to work and go to college, without racking up huge student loans. Those days are long gone.

And all this doesn’t take into account the ability to land a job sufficient to pay off the loans at the end of the day. Or grad school (with still more loans).

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gwangung  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:54:11am

re: #435 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a time when students at state colleges could just about afford to support themselves and pay their tuition on part-time jobs during the semester and full-time summer vacation work.

That golden age ended long ago.

This is something the fundraising arm at my school emphasizes to big ticket donors: you CAN’T pay for school with a minimum wage job.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:55:10am

re: #455 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

A lot are on-line now.

I think my kid spent less than $400.

That’s awesome, actually.
I think one of mine was online at the time.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:55:25am

re: #456 lawhawk

The average cost of a public college per year is over $9000 per year.

If you’re trying to support yourself while in college, that means you’d need to take out significant loans to cover since minimum wage full time nets you only - $12,687.50 (35 hours, 50 weeks x $7.25). Heck, even if you were working 40 hours, 52 weeks, you’d end up with $15,080 per year (and no time to go to actual classes).

You’d need to pay for books and other costs as well, so you’re looking at least $40,000 in student loans. Because most people do not end up with full ride scholarships. Most end up having to take on loans to cover costs and tuition.

So, if you’re going to school full time, you’re decreasing your wages by a number of hours - reducing the amount of money you have available for shelter, food, and transportation.

Now, when tuition was $1600 for a year, and the minimum wage was about $5.50, you had a better chance of being able to work and go to college, without racking up huge student loans. Those days are long gone.

And all this doesn’t take into account the ability to land a job sufficient to pay off the loans at the end of the day. Or grad school (with still more loans).

Thanks fopr putting toegether the numbesr. Really, people don’t realize how expensive college is thse das.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:55:27am

Having something or someone’s behavior to blame doesn’t change the facts.

I’m really freaking tired of hearing that people make bad choices. Their free will go them into a certain predicament. Yeah.

That doesn’t change the outcome. We have children living on the streets, in prison or being sold.

Having a scapegoat doesn’t change that this country is destroying itself.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:57:11am

re: #409 Stanley Sea Toujours

Thank you! Sorry for the pain.

I have to keep-up —no matter how painful.

:)

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:58:12am

$5.15 an hour.
Those were the days!
/

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Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 10:58:13am

re: #456 lawhawk

The price you’re talking about doesn’t include housing or food.

All total: trends.collegeboard.org.

Tuition $9410
Room and Board: $10138

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:00:48am

I think my all time favorite was Rep Blackburn arguing against the minimum wage being raised citing her wages in 1968 which adjusted for inflation are considerably higher than the present minimum wage.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:01:47am

re: #463 Belafon

The price you’re talking about doesn’t include housing or food.

Thta hell furthers the point. Okay this is my best socialist voice but we need to start seeing education as a right in this country.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:01:54am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:02:23am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

I think my all time favorite was Rep Blackburn arguing against the minimum wage being raised citing her wages in 1968 which adjusted for inflation are considerably higher than the present minimum wage.

$10.56 in today’s dollars.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:02:27am

LOL==>

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Timothy Watson  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:03:03am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

I think my all time favorite was Rep Blackburn arguing against the minimum wage being raised citing her wages in 1968 which adjusted for inflation are considerably higher than the present minimum wage.

And it’s the GOP who gets to act as though they know everything about economics but don’t know the difference between real wages and nominal wages.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:03:16am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:04:03am

I guess playing the Blame Game takes an issue out of one’s in box and makes it a SEP

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:04:03am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

LOL==>

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Truth hurts eh Dana?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:04:38am

re: #467 Not a Sparkly Vampire

$10.56 in today’s dollars.

Thought it as in the teens but she was making that at age 18 years old.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:04:39am

re: #463 Belafon

The price you’re talking about doesn’t include housing or food.

No. It doesn’t. That’s another $9,000 or more for a public university.

The cost of “room and board” depends on the campus housing and food plans you choose. The College Board reports that the average cost of room and board in 2014-2015 ranged from $9,804 at four-year public schools to $11,188 at private schools. Colleges also provide room and board estimates for living off campus based on typical student costs.

Books and School Supplies

Most colleges estimate the average costs for required learning materials. Some colleges even include the cost of a computer and computer accessories. The College Board reports the average cost for books and supplies for the 2014-2015 school year was $1,146 at public colleges and $1,244 at private colleges.

Personal and Transportation Expenses

Colleges may estimate some expenses they don’t bill you for. These include local transportation, clothing, personal items, entertainment, etc. The College Board reports that expenses in this category for 2014-2015 ran from $2,609 at private colleges to $3,242 at public universities.

So, tuition is $9,000. Room and board is another $9,000. Books are another $1,000. Finally, personal and transportation expenses are another $3,000.

So, the top line cost for a single year at a public university is roughly $22,000 per year. That’s $88,000 for four years. If you’re going full time, you can’t work full time, unless you’re giving up sleep, and even then you still have all those expenses.

Someone can go to college, work part time, and then graduate from a private university, but they’d be doing it with $80,000+ in debt. Because if you’re working minimum wage you’re not saving up, not when you have to support yourself.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:05:44am

re: #473 HappyWarrior

Thought it as in the teens but she was making that at age 18 years old.

Still >3 bucks more than most of the states. (7.25)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:06:06am

Could still use more improvement==>

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A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:06:53am

re: #460 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Not only that, but should we really punish someone forever for making mistakes and errors in judgement? Or mistakes their parents made? We keep punishing people and not focusing on any kind of rehabilitation, be it vocational, drug, prison, educational. It accomplishes nothing. Misery in and of itself is not motivation to do better. It creates abuse and violence. How is that good for a country?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:07:02am

re: #469 Timothy Watson

And it’s the GOP who gets to act as though they know everything about economics but don’t know the difference between real wages and nominal wages.

Which is economics 101.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:07:06am

My Emily’s List tote bag arrived in the mail this week! Well worth the $40 donation!

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KGxvi  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:07:38am

re: #474 lawhawk

Nobody graduates in 4 years anymore. I pulled it off in the late 90s but needed summer school and winter session classes - which were an additional cost.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:07:41am

re: #476 The Vicious Babushka

Could still use more improvement==>

[Embedded content]

I admit that I’m a terrible speller.
Then again, I know how to use spell check.
;)

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:07:42am

OT and apologies if this has already been posted, but science: New derivation of pi links quantum physics and pure math

Researchers stumbled upon a famous pre-Newtonian formula for pi while computing the energy levels of a hydrogen atom

In 1655 the English mathematician John Wallis published a book in which he derived a formula for pi as the product of an infinite series of ratios. Now researchers from the University of Rochester, in a surprise discovery, have found the same formula in quantum mechanical calculations of the energy levels of a hydrogen atom. […]

“It was a complete surprise — I jumped up and down when we got the Wallis formula out of equations for the hydrogen atom,” said [mathematician Tamar] Friedmann.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:07:43am

re: #475 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Still >3 bucks more than most of the states. (7.25)

Oh yeah for sure. Believe me, I would hav been tickled pink to make that kind of money as a high school student.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:08:06am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

LOL==>

What’s Danagunz complaining about now?

485
HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:09:11am

re: #477 A Mom Anon

Not only that, but should we really punish someone forever for making mistakes and errors in judgement? Or mistakes their parents made? We keep punishing people and not focusing on any kind of rehabilitation, be it vocational, drug, prison, educational. It accomplishes nothing. Misery in and of itself is not motivation to do better. It creates abuse and violence. How is that good for a country?

Shit sometimes the parents don’t even make mistakes. There’s this twisted obsession with punishing people rather than giving them a chance to improve themselvse.

486
wrenchwench  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:09:43am

re: #482 De Kolta Chair

OT and apologies if this has already been posted, but science: New derivation of pi links quantum physics and pure math

Pi (and pie) is always welcome here.

487
lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:09:59am

re: #480 KGxvi

I pulled it off with AP courses. Of course, I then went to grad school and law school.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:10:02am

re: #484 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What’s Danagunz complaining about now?

Jenifer Lawrence said she’d never be a Republican because they don’t respect women’s basic rights. The truth really hurt Dana’s feelings.

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lawhawk  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:10:26am

re: #484 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What’s Danagunz complaining about now?

She haz a sad because Jennifer Lawrence called out the GOP for being, well, the GOP.

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KGxvi  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:10:32am

re: #482 De Kolta Chair

For some reason, that makes me think of this:

Image: purity.png

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:10:32am

Pie?
WHERE.

492
The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:10:33am

re: #484 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What’s Danagunz complaining about now?

J-Law’s announcement that she will never vote for a Republican.

493
I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:10:46am
slantnews.com

I coughed-up the $3.50 and sent a sendcongressyouruterus.com postcard.

The protest organizers sent me a pic of their first batch.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:11:10am

re: #488 HappyWarrior

Jenifer Lawrence said she’d never be a Republican because they don’t respect women’s basic rights. The truth really hurt Dana’s feelings.

Boycott Jennifer Lawrence movies and Hunger Games and how come she doesn’t know true anti women party is Democrat party because they hate gunz!!!!!

495
HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:12:03am

re: #494 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Boycott Jennifer Lawrence movies and Hunger Games and how come she doesn’t know true anti women party is Democrat party because they hate gunz!!!!!

Coming soon I’m sure.

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KGxvi  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:12:07am

re: #487 lawhawk

I had a couple of AP courses too (of course, one was a science one and I still had to take a science class because the AP credit didn’t cover the lab portion)… I also had a couple of semesters where I had to drop classes for various reasons, so they kind of balanced out.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:12:27am

Please Retweet. I love this protest.

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wrenchwench  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:12:57am

re: #490 KGxvi

For some reason, that makes me think of this:

Image: purity.png

I have a degree in Sociology. My older brother had a double major, physics and MATH. I should send him that.

499
KGxvi  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:14:13am

re: #498 wrenchwench

it’s from XKCD, they’ve got some good ones over there.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:15:09am

re: #498 wrenchwench

I have a degree in Sociology. My older brother had a double major, physics and MATH. I should send him that.

That would make my head hurt.

501
wrenchwench  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:16:35am

re: #500 Not a Sparkly Vampire

That would make my head hurt.

I did get a great tour of the tunnels under CalTech. And his dorm was a good place to hang out before the Rose Parade.

502
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:17:16am

re: #495 HappyWarrior

Coming soon I’m sure.

I don’t think J-Law has a Twitter account so she should be spared most of the raging spittles of rage that would show up in her mentions from the legions of Dana fans who only truly love people and value life.

///

503
The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:17:42am

re: #490 KGxvi

For some reason, that makes me think of this:

Image: purity.png

LOL My degree is in Math/Computer Science but Zedushka claims that his degree is MORE PURE because it’s only in Math.

I said “All that means is I took the exact same courses you did, but I also took classes in coding”

504
De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:17:46am

re: #486 wrenchwench

Pi (and pie) is always welcome here.

;-) No matter how you slice it, it’s a fascinating discovery.

505
I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:18:30am

Most Expensive Diamond Ever sold:
Rare Blue Diamond Sells for Record $48.5 Million at Auction

506
The Vicious Babushka  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:19:46am

re: #505 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Most Expensive Diamond Ever sold:
Rare Blue Diamond Sells for Record $48.5 Million at Auction

So it’s around Melania’s neck now?

507
I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:20:02am

re: #482 De Kolta Chair

OT and apologies if this has already been posted, but science: New derivation of pi links quantum physics and pure math

I’m so happy!

508
ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:20:35am

re: #398 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Sofa Dogs

I see a big belly I want to rub.

509
Eventual Carrion  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:20:56am

re: #378 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Hey, those rocks could be worth some money if we ever figure out a way to mine them!

Spice.

510
A Mom Anon  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:21:04am

re: #485 HappyWarrior

One look at the prison system speaks volumes. Joking about prison rape pisses me off because a) it trivializes rape and b) people will eventually get out of jail. If they have been brutalized in prison, what kind of citizen will they be? And this isn’t taking into account being victimized before they landed there. So you throw people in jail where they get no help, no chance to move forward somehow and expect what from them when they get released? They can’t find work, the prison/jail time makes sure of that. Probation and parole officers are mostly low wage private company workers with no incentive to help their clients and they don’t. They are there to collect money or throw you back in jail if you can’t pay them. Then, while they are in jail, they have to pay for the third meal of the day (and none of the food is hot, few prisons and jails have actual kitchens anymore, food is prepared by food service companies and trucked in) and insane costs for phone calls home. A lot of jails don’t even allow in person visitation anymore, you have to pay to see your loved one via a video kiosk at the jail or skip that and do it online. None of this is a crime deterrent and all it’s doing is making prison service companies rich. Some jurisdictions are getting smart and ditching this bullshit, but it’s slow and meanwhile families are being destroyed.

511
HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:21:39am

re: #502 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I don’t think J-Law has a Twitter account so she should be spared most of the raging spittles of rage that would show up in her mentions from the legions of Dana fans who only truly love people and value life.

///

That is true. I’m sure they’ll whine about how “hateful” J-Law is even while many of them love them some Ted Nugent.

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ObserverArt  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:22:16am

re: #349 De Kolta Chair

Good afternoon, lézards

[Embedded content]

Is he also credited for creating the leotard? It looks like he has one on.

513
I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:22:46am

re: #508 ObserverArt

I see a big belly I want to rub.

Fuzzy Tummy!

514
Belafon  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:23:50am

re: #488 HappyWarrior

Jenifer Lawrence said she’d never be a Republican because they don’t respect women’s basic rights. The truth really hurt Dana’s feelings.

Dana probably thinks The Hunger Games are real and that Jennifer is using a pseudonym, or she thinks Jennifer yearns for a world where she can take on a tyrannical government.

515
HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:24:19am

re: #510 A Mom Anon

One look at the prison system speaks volumes. Joking about prison rape pisses me off because a) it trivializes rape and b) people will eventually get out of jail. If they have been brutalized in prison, what kind of citizen will they be? And this isn’t taking into account being victimized before they landed there. So you throw people in jail where they get no help, no chance to move forward somehow and expect what from them when they get released? They can’t find work, the prison/jail time makes sure of that. Probation and parole officers are mostly low wage private company workers with no incentive to help their clients and they don’t. They are there to collect money or throw you back in jail if you can’t pay them. Then, while they are in jail, they have to pay for the third meal of the day (and none of the food is hot, few prisons and jails have actual kitchens anymore, food is prepared by food service companies and trucked in) and insane costs for phone calls home. A lot of jails don’t even allow in person visitation anymore, you have to pay to see your loved one via a video kiosk at the jail or skip that and do it online. None of this is a crime deterrent and all it’s doing is making prison service companies rich. Some jurisdictions are getting smart and ditching this bullshit, but it’s slow and meanwhile families are being destroyed.

I have to confess. I used to laugh at prison rape jokes. I can no longer do so. And you’re right about jail. I got to thinking about this recently when thinking about crime, punishment, and rehabilitation. The vast majority of convicts in our system are going to reenter society at some point. I think that should make people realize that instead of brutalizing or punishing these guys (we’re punishing them as is by having them imprisoned), we should be giving them the skills and hopefully reshaping their minds so they don’t re-offend. Some of them surely will re-offend. That’s going to happen but I think we can lessening re-offenders rather than acting they should just rot.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:24:23am

bbl

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:25:07am

re: #514 Belafon

Dana probably think The Hunger Games are real and that Jennifer is using a pseudonym, or she think Jennifer yearns for a world where she can take on a tyrannical government.

Yeah I don’t know why she was so desperately hpoing it was a misquote. There’s no reason to think an intelligent young woman like Jennifer would seriously consider the Republican Party as an opition.

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BeachDem  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:28:33am

re: #502 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I don’t think J-Law has a Twitter account so she should be spared most of the raging spittles of rage that would show up in her mentions from the legions of Dana fans who only truly love people and value life.

///

The rest of the Jennifer quote:

It’s 2015 and gay people can get married and we think that we’ve come so far, so, yay! But have we? I don’t want to stay quiet about that stuff.”

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:37:43am

re: #512 ObserverArt

Is he also credited for creating the leotard? It looks like he has one on.

I believe he was!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:38:48am

re: #518 BeachDem

The rest of the Jennifer quote:

It’s 2015 and gay people can get married and we think that we’ve come so far, so, yay! But have we? I don’t want to stay quiet about that stuff.”

Good for her. As I said she’s a smart woman. She sees the big picture that we have accomplished a lot but there’s still a lot of work to be done.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 12, 2015 • 11:40:05am

re: #501 wrenchwench

I did get a great tour of the tunnels under CalTech. And his dorm was a good place to hang out before the Rose Parade.

Agreed, the tunnels are awesome.

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danarchy  Nov 12, 2015 • 12:10:09pm

re: #480 KGxvi

Nobody graduates in 4 years anymore. I pulled it off in the late 90s but needed summer school and winter session classes - which were an additional cost.

I have a friend who graduated with a double major in 3 years. I swear he never slept. Works for Apple now, He literally wrote the book on OpenGL.


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