Ben Stein: Obama Hates America Because He’s “Part Black”

“Why is he so angry at America?”
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I seem to remember a time when Ben Stein was funny; but man, those days are really gone forever, with his awful movie pushing creationism and his latest far right statements. And now he’s veering into naked racism, as he tells Newsmax TV’s Steve Malzberg that President Obama is simultaneously a “bad joke” and “a very real danger” … with a “real strong hatred for America” because he’s “part black.”

“I think the question is why is he so angry at America?” Stein said. “I don’t think there’s much question that he does not wish America well. He has a real strong hatred of America. Is it because he’s part black? I don’t know. Is it because his father was mistreated by the British in Kenya? I don’t know.”

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166 comments
1
thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2015 • 4:54:49pm

I suppose it could be worse. I mean, Ben Stein hates America because he’s an asshole.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 4:56:58pm

No wonder Ferris Bueller skipped his class. His teacher was a fucking idiot.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2015 • 4:57:09pm

I was about to say “Remember when Republicans were afraid to let their racism show?,” then I realized they’ve never been afraid. They were just better at disguising it. I guess that the President being on the cusp of retirement has made them feel safe to let their freak flags fly.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2015 • 4:57:33pm

They talk about how angry and hateful Obama is. Do they ever listen to themselves and their fellow conservatives? Conservatives are some of the most hateful angry bastards out there.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 18, 2015 • 4:58:13pm

Lunch table discussions today revolved around Syrian refugees. Apparently I’m naive for thinking we shouldn’t be assholes to people in need.

I stated that I wish the party would just be honest. If the GOP would just come out and say “FCK ALL N*GGERS - AND EVERYBODY WHO AIN’T US IS A N*GGER”, then I could at least respect their honesty.

Edit:

Seriously, when the Aryan Brotherhood and the KKK have more integrity than your Presidential candidates, perhaps it’s time to be honest with yourself and the rest of the world.

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Nyet  Nov 18, 2015 • 4:58:28pm

Dear Ben, white supremacists still won’t love you, xoxo.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 4:59:59pm

Maybe it’s time that I break my DVD copy of American Pie now?

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:02:24pm

You know, considering the comments the president made the last couple days that he is getting slammed for making, I got to thinking about the love of TRUMP and Carson for telling it like it is.

Obama is telling it like it is. And everyone is crying.

Is the difference the fact running for president you can say anything no matter how untruthful and outrageous, but once you are president you have to refrain from any criticism of anyone in the government?

Fuck that. In the world of politics circa 2015, I think Obama has in a sense been fair with his words. I don’t remember him calling out Cruz directly…but Cruz is acting all butt hurt and grandstanding about a debate. A debate that if turned down Cruz can say Obama is chicken to debate.

Where is the outrage a member of Congress thinks he deserves to debate the President? I happen to believe that is out of line.

Where is any outrage that for how many years Obama has had to put up with crap like “I don’t think he is a real American” like idiot Ben Stein is dredging up again from the pond bottom. What the fuck kind of tone is that? Who deserves to be questioned like that for nearly 7 years straight?

I think a little pricking back at real stupidity about real issues is well deserved.

You know…fuck this shit. Keep doing what you are doing Pres! You have not let this American down in your decisions. I trust you way more than all the jackals trying to bite your ankles.

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plansbandc  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:02:45pm

Other than being black, can someone explain to me how Obama has ever stated or acted in a way that proves he hates America? Anyone? Anyone?

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:03:41pm

re: #5 Pawn of the Oppressor

“Naive” is the canned response every time liberals try to appeal to a sense of humanity in a wingnut.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:03:42pm

re: #9 plansbandc

Other than being black, can someone explain to me how Obama has ever stated or acted in a way that proves he hates America? Anyone? Anyone?

He required people to have health insurance.

/

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:05:01pm

re: #11 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He required people to have health insurance.

/

He cut unemployment, the hateful meanie.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:05:44pm

re: #11 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He required people to have health insurance.

/

REEL MURIKANS PERFORM THEIR OWN SURGERIES!!!

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:05:53pm

re: #9 plansbandc

He was an anti-war candidate. That’s all they ever needed to call him a traitor.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:07:03pm

When I was a kid, Ben Stein was that guy who appeared in comedy films as the comically serious guy or as the government employee.

By the time I was a teen, I was watching “Win Ben Stein’s Money,” which was actually pretty good as far as quiz shows go.

Now that I’m an adult, I can only look back at my younger self and thank Dog I was too stupid to realize just how much of an ass this guy really is.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:07:14pm

re: #14 UrbanAchiever

He was an anti-war candidate. That’s all they ever needed to call him a traitor.

I remember seeing trucks around here in Dallas in the 2003-2005 era where bumper stickers that called for the execution of anti-war protesters was widespread.

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funky chicken  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:08:08pm

re: #6 Nyet

Dear Ben, white supremacists still won’t love you, xoxo.

He’s a good Jew.

///

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Dr. Matt  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:08:14pm
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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:08:19pm

re: #16 electrotek

I remember a TEACHER telling my friend and me they used to execute people for doing what we did, namely, saying we thought the war was a huge mistake. It was… eye-opening.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:08:50pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

When I was a kid, Ben Stein was that guy who appeared in comedy films as the comically serious guy or as the government employee.

By the time I was a teen, I was watching “Win Ben Stein’s Money,” which was actually pretty good as far as quiz shows go.

Now that I’m an adult, I can only look back at my younger self and thank Dog I was too stupid to realize just how much of an ass this guy really is.

Haha same. I actually had a teacher who sounded like him too.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:09:22pm

In this part of the country there is no such thing as “part black”, so he can drop that shit right there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:09:24pm

re: #16 electrotek

I remember seeing trucks around here in Dallas in the 2003-2005 era where bumper stickers that called for the execution of anti-war protesters was widespread.

Yeah I remember that crap.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:10:44pm

I guess I differ from most of you—I never thought Ben Stein was funny.

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petesh  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:11:19pm

Things real ‘Mercans love: America
Things real ‘Mercans hate: Americans

(h/t Kinky Friedman)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:11:52pm

re: #23 BeachDem

I guess I differ from most of you—I never thought Ben Stein was funny.

Oh I never really did either but Win BS’s money was entertaining.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:12:42pm

re: #23 BeachDem

I guess I differ from most of you—I never thought Ben Stein was funny.

My only exposure to him was eye drop commercials.

Pop culture, not my forte.

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petesh  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:13:27pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Oh I never really did either but Win BS’s money was entertaining.

I agree. He was pretty good on trivia, basically.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:14:02pm

re: #23 BeachDem

I guess I differ from most of you—I never thought Ben Stein was funny.

All I know is, I never found him interesting enough to want to watch. I think all I ever saw was his bit in Ferris.

Now he is just another twitter twit nitwit like so many.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:14:26pm

re: #27 petesh

I agree. He was pretty good on trivia, basically.

He’s not really stupid but he sure knows how to pander to it. This crap bring a good example.

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:16:24pm

Today’s Ben Carson word salad:

“We have to be extremely wise…the vetting process cannot be unilateral.”

The vetting process cannot be unilateral? Does he even know, let alone understand what the word vetting means?

It is, by operation, a unilateral process wherein one party examines the other to make sure they meet qualifications.

What the heck does Carson think it means? That the refugee gets to examine the examiner?

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plansbandc  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:16:34pm

Oh yeah, the wanting peace makes you a traitor thing. Think I might have blocked that for awhile.

Great.

Thanks Obama.

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Danack  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:17:05pm

Cruzing towards the nomination, Ted ‘Backpfeifengesicht’ Cruz gets the endorsement of known loony Steve King.

I’m still standing by my prediction that Cruz is going to either get to the number 2 position in the race quite easily, or if Trump gets bored and drops out, he could easily become the number 1.

But also too, how about a Trump-Cruz ticket? Trump names Cruz when asked about VP spot

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:17:06pm
Today’s Ben Carson word salad:

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The vetting process cannot be unilateral? Does he even know, let alone understand what the word vetting means?

It is, by operation, a unilateral process wherein one party examines the other to make sure they meet qualifications.

What the heck does Carson think it means? That the refugee gets to examine the examiner?

How the fuck did he become such a successful heart surgeon?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:17:35pm

re: #33 electrotek

How the fuck did he become such a successful heart surgeon?

I think you mean brain.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:17:52pm

re: #30 lawhawk

Today’s Ben Carson word salad:

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The vetting process cannot be unilateral? Does he even know, let alone understand what the word vetting means?

It is, by operation, a unilateral process wherein one party examines the other to make sure they meet qualifications.

What the heck does Carson think it means? That the refugee gets to examine the examiner?

Keeps them from moving here, where the only art form is pulled pork.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:18:26pm
I think you mean brain.

Oh yeah oops lol

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:19:45pm

This makes me want to move to Japan and become an English teacher.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:19:49pm

re: #33 electrotek

Well it was either that or cartography…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:20:08pm

I just read this. It’s only five pages, but what a load of bullshit.

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danarchy  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:20:33pm

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Keeps them from moving here, where the only art form is pulled pork.

As art forms go it is a pretty good one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:20:56pm

re: #9 plansbandc

Other than being black, can someone explain to me how Obama has ever stated or acted in a way that proves he hates America? Anyone? Anyone?

Obama created jobs.
Bailed out the auto industry.
Lowered the deficit.
Lowered the unemployment rate.
Lowered the price of gas.
Raised the stock market.

COMMUNIST!!!1!!1!!!

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:21:03pm

This is awesome:

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:22:04pm

This dipshit has been whining about the Turkish stadium all day==>

He has nothing to say about this, however.

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:23:30pm

Attacking them for even considering creating/raising a tax, even as all of their tax schemes result in shifting tax burdens from the rich on to everyone else.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:24:14pm

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

This dipshit has been whining about the Turkish stadium all day==>

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He has nothing to say about this, however.

Guess he forgot how the Greeks booed the moment of silence a few days after 9/11 during a soccer match against Scotland and even burned US flags as well.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:24:25pm

Here are a bunch of assholes who hate America==>

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Great White Snark  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:24:40pm

About that constitution the Governors like to cite so very much when it serves their purposes, how ya like it now?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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danarchy  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:25:34pm

re: #42 electrotek

This is awesome:

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I guess even a narcissistic a-hole can have his moments.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:25:35pm

lol

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:26:33pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just read this. It’s only five pages, but what a load of bullshit.

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Okay, so they want not only DHS, but also the FBI (who has no jurisdiction outside the US) and the DNI to sign off on every…single…refugee individually. This bill seems less about making sure that America is kept “safe” and more about further complicating the process in the hopes that these refugees will just give up and apply somewhere else.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:27:18pm

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

Here are a bunch of assholes who hate America==>

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Most of the RW spectrum has finally copped to overt anti-human positions it will not be possible to disavow.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:27:20pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Okay, so they want not only DHS, but also the FBI (who has no jurisdiction outside the US) and the DNI to sign off on every…single…refugee individually. This bill seems less about making sure that America is kept “safe” and more about further complicating the process in the hopes that these refugees will just give up and apply somewhere else.

And all this time I thought they were small government.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:27:23pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

But that can’t be true, they hate bureaucracy!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:27:38pm

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

Somebody is upset that the Iraq refugee program got “paused”?
That new house bill to overhaul to refugee screening specifically mentions Syria and Iraq.

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:32:42pm
After requesting that all Roanoke Valley agencies stop Syrian refugee assistance, Mayor David Bowers wrote in a statement: “I’m reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and it appears that the threat of harm to America from Isis now is just as real and serious as that from our enemies then.”

usatoday.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:33:20pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:33:52pm

re: #49 electrotek

Time for some RWNJ bashing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:34:55pm

Carly is upset:

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:35:35pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

HAHAHAHA like she would know.

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:35:51pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

Carly is upset:

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And what are you, Carly? An iguana? A houseplant? Oh, a failed politician who took the California Republican Party into the wilderness in a way not seen since the 19th century.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:36:07pm

re: #55 gocart mozart

After requesting that all Roanoke Valley agencies stop Syrian refugee assistance, Mayor David Bowers wrote in a statement: “I’m reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and it appears that the threat of harm to America from Isis now is just as real and serious as that from our enemies then.”

Wait - ISIS sank the Pacific fleet?

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:36:36pm

re: #60 Brian J.

And what are you, Carly? An iguana? A houseplant? Oh, a failed politician who took the California Republican Party into the wilderness in a way not seen since the 19th century.

And a terrible excuse of a CEO that allowed herself to get swindled by Steve Jobs of all people hahaha

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:37:18pm

It’s been a few years since I lived in Bloomington, but if it hasn’t changed too much that would have been a great Indiana city for the Syrian family to settle down in. Small, yet diverse. Many international markets. Afghan and Turkish restaurants. Top-class music everyday at IU School of Music.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:37:19pm

gaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:37:30pm

How to prove Christianity, wingnut style==>

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:37:40pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

His parents are doing something right! So lovely to see.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:38:07pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

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THE WAR FAIRY WILL PAY FOR IT!!!1!!!!

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:38:35pm

re: #62 electrotek

And a terrible excuse of a CEO that allowed herself to get swindled by Steve Jobs of all people hahaha

It’s one thing to be outsmarted by Steve Jobs, who outsmarted a lot of people in his long and fruitful career. It’s another thing to have Barbara Boxer hand you your head while Democrats are getting hammered from the Atlantic to the Sierra Nevada.

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Tigger2  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:38:50pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

Carly is upset:

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Jenner7  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:39:11pm
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UrbanAchiever  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:39:12pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m beginning to think the rumors about him are wrong. He’s actually a warsexual.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:39:47pm

re: #9 plansbandc

Other than being black, can someone explain to me how Obama has ever stated or acted in a way that proves he hates America? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller, Bueller?

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:40:28pm

re: #70 Jenner7

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At least Democrats have no problem sidelining douchebags within their party. When will the Republican Party, the self-described party of “personal responsibility”, do the same?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:40:36pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:40:37pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

Carly is upset:

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More proof the GOP talking points got distributed. Started with Morning Joke…and as the day has worn on each and everyone has squawked out the same lines.

Good little soldiers. Rience must be proud.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:41:36pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

Graham to introduce authorization for “unlimited” war against ISIS:

Don’t think that word means what he thinks it means.

militaryfactory.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:42:34pm

current mood:

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:43:59pm

This is a good article, even though it’s on The Intercept

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:44:20pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:44:34pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

current mood:

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Gah! It’s staring into my soul!

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:45:42pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She held up under 11 hours of questioning without breaking a sweat or giving the GOP any gaffes to exploit. Trump didn’t make it an hour under “hostile” questioning before he began attacking the moderator.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:47:29pm
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:47:34pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:47:54pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My only exposure to him was eye drop commercials.

Pop culture, not my forte.

Ferris Bueller’s Day Off was mine, a long long time ago.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:48:07pm

re: #82 electrotek

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Superman was an illegal alien.

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:48:42pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

He’s not really stupid but he sure knows how to pander to it. This crap bring a good example.

He was a speechwriter for Tricky Dick.

‘Nuff said.

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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:48:47pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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For a party that regularly shits itself over the idea of a tyrannical overlord using the Armed Forces to oppress the people, the GOP certainly seems to love the idea of giving the President a blank check to make war.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:49:17pm

So someone asked Jess about Islam….

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:49:38pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clinton “doesn’t have the stamina” to be president, Trump says tonight in Massachusetts

there is a large area in the front of trump’s face that needs to be filled with words everyday doesnt matter too much which ones

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Jenner7  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:51:36pm

Ha!

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:52:48pm

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

Here are a bunch of assholes who hate America==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:53:04pm

Trump LOVES the Second Amendment!!!

Oh…wait…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:53:38pm

re: #90 Jenner7

dammit…
:D

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:55:04pm

re: #90 Jenner7

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Ha!

I had an uncle who used to live in Worcester. There goes the neighborhood.

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TedStriker  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:55:13pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see Trump’s trying the “don’t you think she looks tired” mind trick from Doctor Who…

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:55:20pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:55:34pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Eight metal detectors lined up to screen thousands of Trump

naturally all republican presidential rallies are open carry zones, arent they?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:56:20pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:57:26pm
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Tigger2  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:57:53pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump LOVES the Second Amendment!!!

Oh…wait…

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2015 • 5:59:46pm
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Great White Snark  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:00:03pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:01:29pm

re: #100 Tigger2

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Don’t wingnuts often like to joke that Democrats vote against gun rights, but keep armed guards around them at all times? Or that the President sends his girls to a school that has armed security?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:02:15pm

re: #102 Great White Snark

None.

I’d add snark tags, but that’s the reality we’re dealing with. I truly believe that if those refugees had blond hair, blue eyes, and lily white skin, we wouldn’t be hearing a peep about this. The threat is just the excuse a lot of people are telling themselves to feel better about it.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:02:35pm

So Daily Caller is jerking off to Syrian girls pulled from an Instagram account now?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:03:36pm

Chuck C. Johnson’s latest grift: generosity.com

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Tigger2  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:04:33pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

Don’t wingnuts often like to joke that Democrats vote against gun rights, but keep armed guards around them at all times? Or that the President sends his girls to a school that has armed security?

Yeah pretty much.

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:05:24pm

re: #104 klys (maker of Silmarils)

None.

I’d add snark tags, but that’s the reality we’re dealing with. I truly believe that if those refugees had blond hair, blue eyes, and lily white skin, we wouldn’t be hearing a peep about this. The threat is just the excuse a lot of people are telling themselves to feel better about it.

Or were from an ethnic group that voted for Republicans. (Of course, Arab-Americans DID vote for Republicans up until 2000. I wonder what caused the change.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:06:02pm

re: #108 Brian J.

Or were from an ethnic group that voted for Republicans. (Of course, Arab-Americans DID vote for Republicans up until 2000. I wonder what caused the change.)

The establishment might have been okay with it, but the base wouldn’t, and the base is in charge at this point.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:06:38pm

Another reason why I want the death cult to be referred to as “Da’esh” more and more instead of ISIS:

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:06:47pm

LOL!

$2,500 Have Dinner with Chuck

Spend a pleasant evening discussing the news of the day and what can be done to defeat political correctness, and to expose charlatans and liars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:07:07pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson’s latest grift: generosity.com

LOLing so much at the “Donation Levels”.

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:07:34pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

LOL!

I dunno how much effort it takes to register on a page like this, but for most of us, $10 isn’t sufficient to make it worth our time.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:08:09pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Followed by an evening of defecating on the floor. Lawsuits must be paid for out-of-pocket.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:08:20pm

re: #113 Brian J.

I dunno how much effort it takes to register on a page like this, but for most of us, $10 isn’t sufficient to make it worth our time.

Look at the bottom of the right column - that $10 was donated by Chuck himself.

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Tigger2  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:08:34pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

LOL!

I don’t need $2,500 that much to want to have dinner with him. /

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:09:32pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLing so much at the “Donation Levels”.

I notice that at the 100 dollar level, you get an autographed copy of his book. I wonder if at the 200 dollar level you get a pre-paid mailer to return it?

RBS

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:09:54pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Look at the bottom of the right column - that $10 was donated by Chuck himself.

If you’re desperate enough to seed your own account this way, why can’t you at least do so with an amount that looks impressive or at least exceeds your lowest gift-giving level?

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:10:01pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Look at the bottom of the right column - that $10 was donated by Chuck himself.

A 250.00 phone call? lol

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:10:23pm

re: #118 Brian J.

If you’re desperate enough to seed your own account this way, why can’t you at least do so with an amount that looks impressive or at least exceeds your lowest gift-giving level?

You assume he has that much money to seed his account with.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:10:57pm

Pretty rich for Greeks to condemn the Turks for booing the moment of silence when Greek fans themselves booed the moment of silence after 9/11 and burned US flags at a soccer match. They can go fuck themselves with their hypocrisy.

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Jenner7  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:12:33pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:12:39pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea Toujours

A 250.00 phone call? lol

Hey Chuck. What are you wearing???

RBS

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:13:25pm

The Guardian

In the birthplace of democracy, the right to demonstrate is viewed as a hallowed tradition. In the wake of the assault on America, the Greeks have been living up to that time-honoured practice with outbursts of anti-Americanism by protesters who chant that Uncle Sam had it coming.

Last week, around 30,000 Athenian football fans attending a Uefa match between AEK Athens and the Scottish club Hibernian jeered throughout the minute’s silence held in honour of the terror victims. The Scots looked on aghast as the fans then tried to burn the Stars and Stripes in the stalls.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:15:19pm

DES MOINES (The Borowitz Report)—In a major foreign-policy announcement on Wednesday, the Republican Presidential candidate Ben Carson unveiled a detailed plan to Google Syria.

Speaking in Iowa, the retired neurosurgeon told an audience of supporters, “Any responsible policy on Syria must begin with a fact-finding mission, and such a mission must begin with Googling.”

He said that “Google holds the key” to many questions about Syria. “Where is it? Who lives there? How many square miles is it? These are all things that have to be pinned down,” he said.

Carson, who leads several Republican Presidential polls, said that while his search for answers would start with Google, he would “not rule out” seeking information at Wikipedia and beyond. “No Web site should be taken off the table at this time,” he said.

In closing, he said that he had “no plans” to Google Egypt, since he was already extremely well versed in that nation’s history.

newyorker.com

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compound_Idaho  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:16:10pm

re: #11 klys (maker of Silmarils)

He took my health insurance away. Under penalty of law, forced me to purchase a crappy expensive policy that does not meet my needs. I’m sick and tired of people that get their insurance from their employer or subsidized by others telling me what I need and what I should pay. BTW my obamacare bronze policy premium increased 23% this year. I could look it up. I’m not going to. My memory tells me that is the biggest increase I’ve seen since I started buying my own insurance in 1995. Theory, wishful thinking, and grand plans so often do not match reality. I was promised a $2,500 /yr savings. BS

PS for some reason I find myself responding to your posts. Don’t know why that is. For some reason you must really rub me the wrong way. Nothing personal I assure you. On second thought, it probably is personal, but no particular offense intended. We must really have a different world views.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:16:26pm

re: #125 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

DES MOINES (The Borowitz Report)—In a major foreign-policy announcement on Wednesday, the Republican Presidential candidate Ben Carson unveiled a detailed plan to Google Syria.

Speaking in Iowa, the retired neurosurgeon told an audience of supporters, “Any responsible policy on Syria must begin with a fact-finding mission, and such a mission must begin with Googling.”

He said that “Google holds the key” to many questions about Syria. “Where is it? Who lives there? How many square miles is it? These are all things that have to be pinned down,” he said.
That explains the map earlier. He’s obviously been briefed by an earlier version of Apple Maps.

RBS
Carson, who leads several Republican Presidential polls, said that while his search for answers would start with Google, he would “not rule out” seeking information at Wikipedia and beyond. “No Web site should be taken off the table at this time,” he said.

In closing, he said that he had “no plans” to Google Egypt, since he was already extremely well versed in that nation’s history.

newyorker.com

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:18:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:18:37pm

re: #110 electrotek

To me Isis will be a lovable yellow lab who was a part of Downton Abbey. :)

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Feline Fearless Leader  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:20:10pm

re: #123 Reality Based Steve

Hey Chuck. What are you wearing???

RBS

If the lawsuits run against him it might actually be “Chuck. From State Farm.” on that late night help line fairly soon.

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Snarknado!  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:20:44pm

re: #1 thedopefishlives

In a post downstairs, you said you’d been having back problems. Totally off-the-wall note: many years ago (you young whippersnapper), I also had chronic back problems without any sign of injury. They went away when I increased my milk intake to about a pint a day (calcium, I suppose).

FWIW

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:21:45pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:23:19pm

re: #131 Snarknado!

In a post downstairs, you said you’d been having back problems. Totally off-the-wall note: many years ago (you young whippersnapper), I also had chronic back problems without any sign of injury. They went away when I increased my milk intake to about a pint a day (calcium, I suppose).

FWIW

Thank you. At this point, I’m willing to try simple cheap fixes like that.

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danarchy  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:23:21pm

re: #129 PhillyPretzel

To me Isis will be a lovable yellow lab who was a part of Downton Abbey. :)

To me Isis is that other 70’s super hero TV show that wasn’t as successful as Wonder Woman.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:23:42pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Yeah, those protests are all the news up here. The shutdown of I-94 is right in the area of my drive home, if I hadn’t slipped through before that happened.

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lawhawk  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:24:01pm

re: #129 PhillyPretzel

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:24:29pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:25:24pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea Toujours

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Actually, on the topic of Jamar: Mrs. Fish said he was accused of beating his girlfriend and preventing medics from attending her. Not sure that justifies him getting shot, though.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:28:59pm

re: #138 thedopefishlives

Actually, on the topic of Jamar: Mrs. Fish said he was accused of beating his girlfriend and preventing medics from attending her. Not sure that justifies him getting shot, though.

Nah, it doesn’t.

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dholmes32  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:30:27pm

re: #110 electrotek

Another reason why I want the death cult to be referred to as “Da’esh” more and more instead of ISIS:

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Isis Books in Denver has been around for a long time. They’re a New Age bookstore, not my taste, but still a bookstore!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:33:11pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson’s latest grift: generosity.com

LOL he doesn’t even know he’s in a legal tangle with NAF not PP. Is he really that clueless?

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Timothy Watson  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:34:14pm

Motherfuckers, another reason to be ashamed of Virginia tonight:

A meeting Tuesday evening to discuss a proposed Islamic mosque in Spotsylvania County quickly turned combative, with one man proclaiming, “Every Muslim is a terrorist.”

Samer Shalaby, a trustee of the Islamic Center of Fredericksburg, began what was advertised as a “community meeting” with a moment of silence for the victims of Friday’s terrorist attack in Paris. After the moment, a man said, “Amen and thank you!” and another person proclaimed “praise God!”

Shalaby then started a presentation on the Islamic Center’s plan to build an 8,000-square-foot mosque at the corner of Old Plank Road and Andora Drive. The mosque would move there from its current location on Harrison Road, across State Route 3 from Harrison Crossing.

But it didn’t take long before Shalaby was interrupted by a man who said, “Nobody, nobody, nobody wants your evil cult.”

Some people in the packed room at the Chancellor Community Center—including opponents of the project—expressed disagreement, while others clapped.

“I will do everything in my power to make sure this does not happen because you are terrorists,” the man continued. “Every one of you are terrorists.”

“How do you come up with that?” Shalaby replied.

Shortly thereafter, a uniformed sheriff’s deputy in attendance said he would stop the meeting “if this gets to a violent point.” He noted that he was greatly outnumbered.
“Can we at least please keep it civil for me and my wife and my three children?” the deputy said.

Supervisor Timothy McLaughlin, whose Chancellor District includes the proposed mosque site next to the Ashleigh Park subdivision, asked the crowd to let Shalaby give his presentation before posing questions.

That didn’t happen, and the tension continued to escalate—with shouting matches and expletives—until the deputy waved his arms and called off the meeting.

“Listen to me, it’s done,” the deputy said. The attendees complied with his order to exit the building.

One of the last exchanges happened when a man shouted, “If you want to do your thing, go to Fairfax!”

“Well guess what, we’re already here,” Shalaby replied. “And guess what, we are not going anywhere.”

He said the Islamic Center has been in the Fredericksburg area for nearly three decades and at its current location since 2000.

fredericksburg.com

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Kilroy01  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:34:38pm

re: #134 danarchy

To me Isis is that other 70’s super hero TV show that wasn’t as successful as Wonder Woman.

The intro… so 70s..The Secrets of Isis Introduction

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:37:57pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump LOVES the Second Amendment!!!

Oh…wait…

[Embedded content]

Well, someone did just steal a crap load of weapons from the National Guard armory in Worcester.
And, apparently it’s Obama’s fault

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:39:00pm

re: #142 Timothy Watson

Motherfuckers, another reason to be ashamed of Virginia tonight:

fredericksburg.com

Here in Tenn. very much the same sort of thing occurred when a congregation decided to build a bigger Mosque and Cultural Center on some land they owned. Stupid f-wads will stupid.

RBS

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:39:50pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump LOVES the Second Amendment!!!

Oh…wait…

[Embedded content]

I am sure that venue has insurance liability requirements for events like this.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:41:53pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

Well, someone did just steal a crap load of weapons from the National Guard armory in Worcester.
And, apparently it’s Obama’s fault

I would also imagine the fact the Secret Service has been assigned to provide security for Trump and Carson is going to factor into it. I remember having my one encounter with them (College Republicans, driving a press car in a Dole motorcade). They have no visible sense of humor, and most seriously do not take their charge lightly.

RBS
I’ve since gotten over the case of College Republicans. It was probably due to some girl.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:41:58pm

re: #110 electrotek

Another reason why I want the death cult to be referred to as “Da’esh” more and more instead of ISIS:

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The card reading software on the soda machines at work is called ISIS.

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electrotek  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:42:09pm

re: #142 Timothy Watson

Motherfuckers, another reason to be ashamed of Virginia tonight:

fredericksburg.com

Unfortunately this stuff even predates 9/11. Anyone recall the proposal to build a mosque in Palos Heights, IL which also met with similar anger and fear-mongering? Mind you, that happened in 2000.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:43:28pm

re: #126 compound_Idaho

PS for some reason I find myself responding to your posts. Don’t know why that is. For some reason you must really rub me the wrong way. Nothing personal I assure you. On second thought, it probably is personal, but no particular offense intended. We must really have a different world views.

LOL you’re really kind of funny.

PS for some reason your personal anecdotes still are not the absolute gospel.

If you find yourself compelled to respond to my posts though, want to address the difference in dates between the approval of the asylum application for the Tsarnaev family (2003 at the latest for the brothers) and the warnings from Russia that you claim weren’t picked up by the background checks (2011 according to a 30 second Google search)?

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:44:03pm

re: #148 Belafon

The card reading software on the soda machines at work is called ISIS.

The software that runs the dive shop (industry specific) used to be called ISIS, then about 2 years ago it was relaunched as “EVE” (Electronic Virtual Employee).

RBS

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Timothy Watson  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:47:27pm

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

I am sure that venue has insurance liability requirements for events like this.

Yep, the Republican Party of Virginia had to pay through the nose to the Richmond Coliseum for additional liability insurance for the gun fetishers back in 2009 for their statewide convention.

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William Lewis  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:49:53pm

OT: Got done at the pizza job and stopped at the local bar and grill intending to have a simple burger and fries for supper. Found a nice $10 special on for an 8 oz New York Strip, Baked Potato and Salad. Nom nom nom. Pity I have to go work at the hotel in 2 hours; even drinking coffee, I’m feeling suitably satiated that I could easily go to bed now. Ah, well, no big. Relax for a bit, then shower & off to work again.

Perhaps when I start my third job (an every other week cleaning gig) that’ll push me over the amount I need to actually cover all my bills every month. THAT’s my idea of an American Dream…

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calochortus  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:51:02pm

re: #55 gocart mozart

“After requesting that all Roanoke Valley agencies stop Syrian refugee assistance, Mayor David Bowers wrote in a statement: “I’m reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and it appears that the threat of harm to America from Isis now is just as real and serious as that from our enemies then.”

I imagine this idiot is correct in that interned Japanese (who were not, in fact, foreign nationals, but American citizens in most cases) were about as much threat as the Syrian refugees. That is to say, none at all.

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gwangung  Nov 18, 2015 • 6:54:42pm

re: #155 calochortus

I imagine this idiot is correct in that interned Japanese (who were not, in fact, foreign nationals, but American citizens in most cases) .

2/3 to be exact.

Most of whom were underage and unsuitable for anything except going to school.

Oh. Hey. Look at that….

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KiTA  Nov 18, 2015 • 7:02:43pm

Spoke with Bubblehead II on the phone for about an hour and a half just now. I forgot how much I missed his counsel, haha.

Been a good weekend all things considered, the Paris things being the exception. I work tomorrow then am off Friday — 4 tens is an odd shift but I do like it. And I work next to the Union owned Winco Foods store in the area which means grocery shopping is super easy now - can stop in and grab an armfull of groceries on the way home instead of having to give Walmart my money. Even if I do I have discovered that Winco is only ~5 minutes further away than Walmart, so…

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gocart mozart  Nov 18, 2015 • 7:03:19pm

re: #122 Jenner7

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funky chicken  Nov 18, 2015 • 7:07:51pm

re: #158 gocart mozart

so food stamps are good now?

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 18, 2015 • 7:25:19pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson’s latest grift: generosity.com

$10 so far, from one person, probably his mother.

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compound_Idaho  Nov 18, 2015 • 7:27:37pm

re: #150 klys (maker of Silmarils)

LOL you’re really kind of funny.

PS for some reason your personal anecdotes still are not the absolute gospel.

If you find yourself compelled to respond to my posts though, want to address the difference in dates between the approval of the asylum application for the Tsarnaev family (2003 at the latest for the brothers) and the warnings from Russia that you claim weren’t picked up by the background checks (2011 according to a 30 second Google search)?

When Russian intelligence calls to tell you that you have a problem, please listen. There can be no dispute the FBI f’d up. We have the bodies to prove it. There is no excuse for not “connecting the dots” when the someone connected the dots for you. Given the track record, I have no faith in our ability to screen or monitor people entering the country.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2015 • 7:31:35pm

re: #161 compound_Idaho

When Russian intelligence calls to tell you that you have a problem, please listen. There can be no dispute the FBI f’d up. We have the bodies to prove it. There is no excuse for not “connecting the dots” when the someone connected the dots for you. Given the track record, I have no faith in our ability to screen or monitor people entering the country.

Well, then, just close all the borders! I mean, people come in all the time on tourist or student visa and get virtually no screening whatsoever, so clearly we shouldn’t let any of them in. <— end result of what you are saying, taken to the extreme

Just so we’re clear, you can at least acknowledge that it was not a fuck up of the background checks related to the refugee process? That it was the same level of fuck up as if Russia had called to warn about some US citizen that had been born here and the dots failed to be connected in the same way? Because you were trotting this out as an example of why the refugee program absolutely shouldn’t be, because of this failure of the program when it turns out that the timeline completely blows that out of the water.

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A Cranky One  Nov 18, 2015 • 7:46:55pm

re: #126 compound_Idaho

He took my health insurance away. Under penalty of law, forced me to purchase a crappy expensive policy that does not meet my needs. I’m sick and tired of people that get their insurance from their employer or subsidized by others telling me what I need and what I should pay. BTW my obamacare bronze policy premium increased 23% this year. I could look it up. I’m not going to. My memory tells me that is the biggest increase I’ve seen since I started buying my own insurance in 1995. Theory, wishful thinking, and grand plans so often do not match reality. I was promised a $2,500 /yr savings. BS
…

Sorry to hear you feel you’ve been treated unfairly by the ACA. It has flaws and disadvantages, and I believe there are better ways. Given it’s origin from the Heritage Foundation* and by Mitt Romney, flaws aren’t surprising. But millions of people now have health insurance as a result of the ACA, which has significantly slowed the insane increase in the costs of medical treatment.

I fell last year while running. Seriously gashed my forehead (6 stitches) and broke/dislocated a finger (another 6 stitches). Doctors wanted multiple CT scans. Total emergency room bill was over $10,000. And then there was the cost of the physical therapy, medications, etc. on top of the emergency room bill.

Couple of years before that, they discovered a problem which has been successfully treated. Total cost was over $240,000.

My health insurance covered most of the costs for these unanticipated events. So my treatment costs weren’t passed on to other patients. Multiplied by millions of other folks, this cost savings has finally slowed health care costs.

I’m betting your previous plan wouldn’t have covered much in similar circumstances. Maybe you were comfortable with that risk. Maybe a quarter of a million dollars worth of medical bills wouldn’t be a problem for you. If so, I applaud your success.

Obamacare isn’t perfect and can be improved.

Presidents since Nixon have talked about the need to deal with the issue of health care and increasing costs. To hate a President for finally tackling the issue, even granting that the solution isn’t perfect, seems a tad self centered.

*Well after the Heritage Foundation started calling the ACA an evil plot, I was able to download a copy of their healthcare plan written as a republican counter to Hillary Clinton’s push as First Lady. I occasionally send copies to RWNJs, especially those citing the Heritage Foundation as a source against Obamacare, challenging them to find major policy differences. Tends to result in crickets.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 18, 2015 • 8:37:27pm

re: #9 plansbandc

Other than being black, can someone explain to me how Obama has ever stated or acted in a way that proves he hates America? Anyone? Anyone?

Easy.

Living wages

Affordable healthcare

Same sex marriage

No full-scale boots-on-the-ground of every brown person nation on the planet

Keystone XL

Being pissed off because of a mass shooting instead of just saying “Stuff happens”

Etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 18, 2015 • 8:41:05pm

re: #161 compound_Idaho

When Russian intelligence calls to tell you that you have a problem, please listen. There can be no dispute the FBI f’d up. We have the bodies to prove it. There is no excuse for not “connecting the dots” when the someone connected the dots for you. Given the track record, I have no faith in our ability to screen or monitor people entering the country.

Israeli intel told us Saddam had WMD. How did that work out? And Israel is an “ally”.

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majii  Nov 19, 2015 • 3:54:28pm

Let me take a run at interpreting what I think Stein is saying by making this comment. Since I’m black, I can only conclude that Stein seems to think that if one is a Black American, one automatically hates the U.S.


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