Marco Rubio: Close Down All the Places

Strict constitutionalists call for throwing out the constitution
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Marco Rubio has been (sort of) trying to position himself as relatively sane compared to the Trumps and Carsons in this presidential race — a position he does not deserve. For example, Rubio is a fanatical anti-choice extremist who would completely ban all abortions, even if the life of the mother is in danger.

And just like the rest of the Republican candidates, Rubio is spewing unconstitutional anti-Muslim craziness: Rubio On Closing Mosques: We Should Close Any Place ‘Where Radicals Are Being Inspired’.

“Well, I think it’s not about closing down mosques. It’s about closing down any place, whether it’s a cafe, a diner, an internet site, any place where radicals are being inspired,” the senator said. “The bigger problem we have is our inability to find out where these places are because we’ve crippled our intelligence programs.”

“So whatever facility is being used — it’s not just a mosque — any facility that’s being used to radicalize and inspire attacks against the United States should be a place that we look at,” Rubio added.

Rubio is basically parroting Donald Trump, of course:

There’s no downside for Republicans in saying these kinds of things; in this season of xenophobia and fear, the voting base eats it up and begs for more.

And by the way, the surveillance of Muslims these people are calling for was already tried in New York for more than 10 years; and while it definitely violated the constitutional rights of the people it spied upon, it never generated a single lead.

UPDATE at 11/20/15 12:45:20 pm by Charles Johnson

Marco Rubio tries to sound like an expert on fighting terrorism, but please note that he doesn’t feel the need to attend hearings or briefings on terrorism.

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267 comments
1
HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 10:59:26am

Fuck Marco Rubio and fuck the Republican Party.

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Kragar  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:00:18am

So Rubio intends to close down the WBC, Kevin Swanson and other Evangelicals calling for gays to be executed?

/

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:01:00am

re: #2 Kragar

So Rubio intends to close down the WBC, Kevin Swanson and other Evangelicals calling for gays to be executed?

/

Jonah Jameson laugh.

4
lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:02:35am

Shot:

Chaser:

Make it a double:

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TedStriker  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:03:43am

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Jonah Jameson laugh.

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Kragar  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:05:03am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:05:11am

re: #4 lawhawk

Shot:

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Hey now you’re a fascist, get your game, all that glitters is brown.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:05:23am

re: #6 Kragar

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Shots fired.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:05:33am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:07:36am
Rubio On Closing Mosques: We Should Close Any Place ‘Where Radicals Are Being Inspired’.

Wait, you mean he wants to shut down Texas?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:07:54am
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iossarian  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:08:12am

I look forward to the GOP’s ideological enforcement unit taking on the Bundy Ranch radicals.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:08:21am

Take a good look, “moderate” Republicans, because this guy is your best bet to win the presidency.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:08:37am
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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:09:12am

Hope you all don’t mind…I just did this ‘shop and put it in the previous thread. Since it deals with this topic’s main character, I’m going to post it again.

Trump and Rubio (and others) taking the GOP back to old times.
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:09:24am

Broken clock time again:

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:09:32am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:09:36am

re: #13 Targetpractice

Take a good look, “moderate” Republicans, because this guy is your best bet to win the presidency.

And ask yourself if selling yourself this low is really worth the price of power.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:10:49am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Lots of egg laying I see. Figures.

Just today, I’ve blocked a guy whose avi was a blackface; blocked someone else who was ranting and raving that mass shootings in US are an Obama conspiracy to take all the guns away, etc.

In other words, it’s a day ending in Y.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:10:53am

re: #16 lawhawk

Broken clock time again:

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That’s actually good answer, Jonah. Maybe you’ll finally figure out that the left isn’t fascist like you idiotically though since you’re actually seeing the fascism that is dominant on the right with somewhat clear eyes for once.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:11:06am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

I have to admit thoroughly enjoyed it when you started seriously throwing down yesterday. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you come out swinging so hard & fast, heh.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:11:23am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

And ask yourself if selling yourself this low is really worth the price of power.

A question that has never ruffled the placid consciousness of Ted Cruz.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:12:00am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Honestly from an American context, the religious right scares me far more than ISIS for one very easy reason. ISIS doesn’t have people sympathetic to its goal in our government meanwhile the RR with its dreams of theocracy has tons of sympathizers in the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:12:30am

re: #22 jaunte

A question that has never ruffled the placid consciousness of Ted Cruz.

Well yes but I meant the “moderates” who think they’re “above” this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:17:14am

re: #19 lawhawk

Lots of egg laying I see. Figures.

Just today, I’ve blocked a guy whose avi was a blackface; blocked someone else who was ranting and raving that mass shootings in US are an Obama conspiracy to take all the guns away, etc.

In other words, it’s a day ending in Y.

Today I saw a comment on a Wingnut FB thread, where the commenter was telling everyone that their frightened reactions to terrorism were bad. “Finally!” I thought, “Someone speaking sense!”

Then I read on.

Apparently the terror attack in Paris is part of Obama’s evil plan to frighten all of us into letting him impose Martial Law in the US.

Riiiiight.
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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:17:25am

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Hence ISIS can be used as a perfect scarecrow.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:18:18am

re: #26 Nyet

Hence ISIS can be used as a perfect scarecrow.

Mmmm hmmm.

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:19:08am

So, any wingnut attacks on Obama because of the Pollard release? That would be rich from the ostensibly “pro-Israel” crowd.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:19:12am

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Today I saw a comment on a Wingnut FB thread, where the commenter was telling everyone that their frightened reactions to terrorism were bad. “Finally!” I thought, “Someone speaking sense!”

Then I read on.

Apparently the terror attack in Paris is part of Obama’s evil plan to frighten all of us into letting him impose Martial Law in the US.

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You know by this point in actual Hitler’s part, he had already invaded Poland. Obama’s got a long way to go.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:19:30am

re: #28 Nyet

So, any wingnut attacks on Obama because of the Pollard release? That would be rich from the ostensibly “pro-Israel” crowd.

None I’ve seen yet but I expect some will happen.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:20:30am

Is Rubio ready to close down tourism to keep us “safe?”

At least 19 million people visit the United States through the visa waiver program every year.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:22:44am

re: #31 jaunte

Is Rubio ready to close down tourism to keep us “safe?”

At least 19 million people visit the United States through the visa waiver program every year.

Most of the GOP is coming down firmly on security over freedom.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:23:18am

re: #29 HappyWarrior

You know by this point in actual Hitler’s part, he had already invaded Poland. Obama’s got a long way to go.

He’s only got another 14 months. He better get on the stick!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:23:53am

re: #28 Nyet

So, any wingnut attacks on Obama because of the Pollard release? That would be rich from the ostensibly “pro-Israel” crowd.

This wouldn’t have happened on Ronny Raygun’s watch….oh wait…..

Mr. Pollard, who as a Navy intelligence analyst passed suitcases filled with classified documents to Israeli handlers in the mid-1980s,…..

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:24:27am

re: #16 lawhawk

Mr. Goldberg? Let me explain something to you.

Mr. Trump, Mr. Rubio, do not believe that what they are doing is evil. They believe it is a great good that will make America a better and safer place.

Very few people get up in the morning and decide, “Let’s see what sort of utterly horrible thing I can to do humanity and my nation today.” They get up thinking exactly the opposite.

Good and evil, I am sorry to say, are relative things and perspectives on those things differ greatly.

That doesn’t stop me from thinking that what the GOP presidential candidates are saying is the epitome of evil. But I realize that’s just my opinion.

So I’m afraid your advice is quite useless.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:26:37am

Carson, who was putting for unconstitutional notions just hours ago, thinks Trump might be going to far with his databases/watch list nativist nonsense?

Which one of his advisers whispered that sweet nothing in his ear?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:27:02am

I think the problem with the “moderates” is they continue to think their ideology has been hijacked rather than doing some deep soul searching that maybe it’s the ideology that’s the problem in the first place. I mean we are talking about the ideology that defended slavery, Jim Crow, etc the loudest.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:27:11am

re: #4 lawhawk

Shot:

Chaser:

Make it a double:

LEAVE DONALD TRUMP ALONE STOP QUOTING THINGS HE SAYS!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:27:30am

re: #36 lawhawk

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Carson, who was putting for unconstitutional notions just hours ago, thinks Trump might be going to far with his databases/watch list nativist nonsense?

Which one of his advisers whispered that sweet nothing in his ear?

Sad thing is this statement will probably further DROP his (Carson’s) poll numbers. Sanity doesn’t go over well in the GOP these days.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:27:37am

re: #36 lawhawk

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Carson, who was putting for unconstitutional notions just hours ago, thinks Trump might be going to far with his databases/watch list nativist nonsense?

Which one of his advisers whispered that sweet nothing in his ear?

Now I am just confused.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:27:57am

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Sad thing is this statement will probably further DROP his (Carson’s) poll numbers. Sanity doesn’t go over well in the GOP these days.

Nope sanity is a death sentence in the GOP.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:28:07am

re: #31 jaunte

Is Rubio ready to close down tourism to keep us “safe?”

At least 19 million people visit the United States through the visa waiver program every year.

WERE DOOMED!!!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:29:05am

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Today I saw a comment on a Wingnut FB thread, where the commenter was telling everyone that their frightened reactions to terrorism were bad. “Finally!” I thought, “Someone speaking sense!”

Then I read on.

Apparently the terror attack in Paris is part of Obama’s evil plan to frighten all of us into letting him impose Martial Law in the US.

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Now I’m really confused.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:30:09am

I notice he threw “internet sites” in his list of things to shut down… So, does that mean RedState, Free Republic, VDARE, and Stormfront will be shut down?

Also, what fucking part of “CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW” do these people not understand? It’s very strange to me, because they seem to be on board with that general sentiment on most other issues, particularly when it comes to economic issues.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:31:02am

re: #2 Kragar

So Rubio intends to close down the WBC, Kevin Swanson and other Evangelicals calling for gays to be executed?

/

Liberty University and Bob Jones, too.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:31:48am

re: #16 lawhawk

Meanwhile:

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:32:26am

re: #13 Targetpractice

Honestly, Rubio pisses me off the most. He and I are fairly close in age (he’s 7 years older than me), we are both the sons of Cuban immigrants, we both went to law school - I just expected so much more out of him. It is just so fucking frustrating.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:33:18am

re: #46 Lidane

Meanwhile:

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Oh of course not. Fucking dipshits.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:33:59am

re: #46 Lidane

You mean that their opposition to the existing refugee program is based on nothing but hot air and platitudes?

Not surprised in the slightest. It was craven politics.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:34:08am

re: #46 Lidane

Meanwhile:

Because the answer is “the part that lets Muslims in.”

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:34:17am
“So whatever facility is being used — it’s not just a mosque — any facility that’s being used to radicalize and inspire attacks against the United States should be a place that we look at,” Rubio added.

I should have thought of this sooner. The Biggie: NRA national headquarters.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:34:27am

re: #47 KGxvi

Honestly, Rubio pisses me off the most. He and I are fairly close in age (he’s 7 years older than me), we are both the sons of Cuban immigrants, we both went to law school - I just expected so much more out of him. It is just so fucking frustrating.

It’s quite remarkable how people of similar backgrounds can completely go different ways. But I don’t blame you in the slightest for being frustrated and pissed off by Rubio the most.

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:34:40am

OK, this you can’t blame on snakes.

Gato Asustado por plátanos (Scared Cat by Bananas)

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:34:44am

re: #47 KGxvi

I have incredible pain because he’s a fellow Florida alum.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:35:17am

re: #18 HappyWarrior

And ask yourself if selling yourself this low is really worth the price of power.

But my tax rate!! And regulations about filters on my factory smokestacks!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:35:37am

re: #54 Stanley Sea Toujours

I have incredible pain because he’s a fellow Florida alum.

Karl Rove and I are both GMU alums and a ton of economists who are way out of touch with the reality of modern economies.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:36:13am

re: #55 sagehen

But my tax rate!! And regulations about filters on my factory smokestacks!!

I can’t tell you how many times I hear someone insist they’re socially progressive but they ‘ll vote for the GOP anyhow since their taxes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:36:29am

Grrr…

Uber Driver Says Passenger Mistook Him For A Muslim, Threatened To Kill Him

Samson Woldemichael is a Christian. But the 40-year-old Ethiopian immigrant and father of two, who works as an Uber driver in North Carolina, says he was the victim of Islamophobia this weekend when a passenger threatened his life before violently attacking him during a late-night fare.

Woldemichael says he picked up his assailant, a white man in his 30s, a little before 2 a.m. Sunday outside an Irish pub in Charlotte. The ride started out normally enough, with the two men making small talk. But Woldemichael says when he arrived at what the passenger gave as his home address, the man started to threaten him.

“He told me he was going to shoot me right in face or strangle me,” Woldemichael told The Huffington Post. “He used a lot of bad words… really dirty words, and said I was a Muslim.”

Woldemichael says that even after he told the man he wasn’t a Muslim, the man continued to threaten him. “He was telling me he was going to kill me right there, next to his residence.”

At that point, Woldemichael says, he asked the passenger to get out of the car. The passenger, in turn, asked Woldemichael to get out. Woldemichael says the two stared into each other’s eyes for a few tense seconds, and then he decided to start driving again.

“I started driving because I didn’t feel safe anymore to park there,” he told WBTV this week.

Woldemichael says he drove halfway around the block before the passenger “hit me so hard on the forehead with his bare hand.”

“He then choked me with one arm,” Woldemichael added, “and started hitting me with the other one. I couldn’t move. The only thing I could do was step on the brake, and then I was honking on the horn continuously.”

Woldemichael told WBTV the man then got out of the car, ran a short distance away and then turned around and launched into another tirade, this time keeping his hand behind his back as though he were armed.

That’s when Woldemichael says he drove away and called 911. The cops, he said, arrived within a few minutes, but by that point his assailant had disappeared into the night.

[…]

Woldemichael’s assault is one among a rash of reported anti-Islam incidents across the United States since the Paris terror attacks last week by Islamic State operatives that killed at least 129 people and injured another 350.

On Saturday, there were reports of gunshots fired at a mosque in Meriden, Connecticut. Nearby, at the University of Connecticut, the words “killed Paris” were found scrawled on the door of an Egyptian student’s dorm room.

In Nebraska, someone spray-painted an image of the Eiffel Tower on the side of the Omaha Islamic Center.

In Texas, someone threw feces and torn pages of the Quran outside the Islamic Center of Pflugerville. Also in Texas, a man was arrested for making a terroristic threat after writing on social media that he was going to “shoot up a mosque.”

In Florida, a man was arrested after calling in bomb threats to two mosques.

And in Oklahoma, cops shot a man after he threatened to fire at “anything that looks like a Muslim.”

That list doesn’t include the idiots who threatened the Muslim guy at the Town Hall in Virginia the other day.

These incidents are limited to the United States either. North of the border in my homeland, there have been several xenophobic attacks on Muslims in Toronto including verbal abuse on Subway trains and the intimidation of a Muslim woman outside a school while she was waiting to pick up her kids.

There have not been any deaths yet but I fear they are coming before long. This shit is starting to get out of hand.

It’s so bizarre, I seem to remember Western society being much LESS xenophobic in the 90s. I guess perhaps 9/11 did more lasting damage to us than we thought.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:36:36am

re: #52 HappyWarrior

re: #54 Stanley Sea Toujours

Oh, that’s the other thing, we both grew up in areas with large immigrant populations and tourism (he in Vegas - which I’ve visited a lot - and in South Florida, me in Southern California).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:37:47am

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

Grrr…

Uber Driver Says Passenger Mistook Him For A Muslim, Threatened To Kill Him

Samson Woldemichael is a Christian. But the 40-year-old Ethiopian immigrant and father of two, who works as an Uber driver in North Carolina, says he was the victim of Islamophobia this weekend when a passenger threatened his life before violently attacking him during a late-night fare.

Woldemichael says he picked up his assailant, a white man in his 30s, a little before 2 a.m. Sunday outside an Irish pub in Charlotte. The ride started out normally enough, with the two men making small talk. But Woldemichael says when he arrived at what the passenger gave as his home address, the man started to threaten him.

“He told me he was going to shoot me right in face or strangle me,” Woldemichael told The Huffington Post. “He used a lot of bad words… really dirty words, and said I was a Muslim.”

Woldemichael says that even after he told the man he wasn’t a Muslim, the man continued to threaten him. “He was telling me he was going to kill me right there, next to his residence.”

At that point, Woldemichael says, he asked the passenger to get out of the car. The passenger, in turn, asked Woldemichael to get out. Woldemichael says the two stared into each other’s eyes for a few tense seconds, and then he decided to start driving again.

“I started driving because I didn’t feel safe anymore to park there,” he told WBTV this week.

Woldemichael says he drove halfway around the block before the passenger “hit me so hard on the forehead with his bare hand.”

“He then choked me with one arm,” Woldemichael added, “and started hitting me with the other one. I couldn’t move. The only thing I could do was step on the brake, and then I was honking on the horn continuously.”

Woldemichael told WBTV the man then got out of the car, ran a short distance away and then turned around and launched into another tirade, this time keeping his hand behind his back as though he were armed.

That’s when Woldemichael says he drove away and called 911. The cops, he said, arrived within a few minutes, but by that point his assailant had disappeared into the night.

[…]

Woldemichael’s assault is one among a rash of reported anti-Islam incidents across the United States since the Paris terror attacks last week by Islamic State operatives that killed at least 129 people and injured another 350.

On Saturday, there were reports of gunshots fired at a mosque in Meriden, Connecticut. Nearby, at the University of Connecticut, the words “killed Paris” were found scrawled on the door of an Egyptian student’s dorm room.

In Nebraska, someone spray-painted an image of the Eiffel Tower on the side of the Omaha Islamic Center.

In Texas, someone threw feces and torn pages of the Quran outside the Islamic Center of Pflugerville. Also in Texas, a man was arrested for making a terroristic threat after writing on social media that he was going to “shoot up a mosque.”

In Florida, a man was arrested after calling in bomb threats to two mosques.

And in Oklahoma, cops shot a man after he threatened to fire at “anything that looks like a Muslim.”
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That list doesn’t include the idiots who threatened the Muslim guy at the Town Hall in Virginia the other day.

These incidents are limited to the United States either. North of the border in my homeland, there have been several xenophobic attacks on Muslims in Toronto include verbal abuse on Subway trains and the intimidation of a Muslim woman outside a school while she was waiting to pick up her kids.

There have not been any deaths yet but I fear they are coming before long. This shit is starting to get out of hand.

It’s so bizarre, I seem to remember Western society being much LESS xenophobic in the 90s. I guess perhaps 9/11 did more lasting damage to us than we thought.

This is exactly the kind of thing I’m afraid of happening.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:39:15am

re: #59 KGxvi

Oh, that’s the other thing, we both grew up in areas with large immigrant populations and tourism (he in Vegas - which I’ve visited a lot - and in South Florida, me in Southern California).

You just think that he’d know better and the frustrating part I suspect he does.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:39:50am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Agreed. And what pisses me off is that so many of these professed “Christians” RW nutcases are doing everything they can to throw fuel on the fire.

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:40:23am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

I can’t tell you how many times I hear someone insist they’re socially progressive but they ‘ll vote for the GOP anyhow since their taxes.

That’s a pathetic excuse for voting for fascist demagogues.

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:40:29am

Du Hast in Yiddish.

Dobranotch - Du Hast (Rammstein cover)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:40:34am

Coming soon to a Congress near you…Patriot Act II: The Revenge

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:42:15am

re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg

Coming soon to a Congress near you…Patriot Act II: The Revenge

Should be titled “Patriot Act II: Defecate in panic and run away (again)”

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:42:36am

Except that GWB would be labeled a RINO and run out of the room.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:43:27am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

I think the problem with the “moderates” is they continue to think their ideology has been hijacked rather than doing some deep soul searching that maybe it’s the ideology that’s the problem in the first place. I mean we are talking about the ideology that defended slavery, Jim Crow, etc the loudest.

Their ideology has not been hijacked.

The purposefully drew in these interest groups that are now taking over the party: the Southern Strategy, wooing the Religious Right, stoking the Tea Party paranoia. They have and continue indulge the press that has exacerbated these fears with yellow journalism; heck, supposedly “reasonable” conservatives like Mr. Goldberg have happily provided pseudo-intellectual cover for reactionaries, and also create the talking points and mythology the latter uses.

At each turn, the US right has made a choice to keep this voter bloc—THE dependable bloc—-sated. They still are.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:43:37am

re: #63 EPR-radar

That’s a pathetic excuse for voting for fascist demagogues.

It really is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:44:44am

re: #68 The Ghost of What Plants Crave

Their ideology has not been hijacked.

The purposefully drew in these interest groups that are now taking over the party: the Southern Strategy, wooing the Religious Right, stoking the Tea Party paranoia. They have and continue indulge the press that has exacerbated these fears with yellow journalism; heck, supposedly “reasonable” conservatives like Mr. Goldberg have happily provided pseudo-intellectual cover for reactionaries, and also create the talking points and mythology the latter uses.

At each turn, the US right has made a choice to keep this voter bloc—THE dependable bloc—-sated. They still are.

Oh we absolutely agree, I am just saying that’s what the moderates delude themselves about. I see it here. And you’re right, “reasonable” guys like Jonah have been part of the problem for years. I haven’t forgotten and nor will I forgive him likening liberalism to fascism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:44:47am

re: #63 EPR-radar

That’s a pathetic excuse for voting for fascist demagogues.

But hey - the trains run on time!
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:45:38am

re: #64 Nyet

Now, that’s a welcome respite. Klezmer Du Hast.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:46:24am

re: #67 lawhawk

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Except that GWB would be labeled a RINO and run out of the room.

“America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country,” said Bush in his remarks at the Islamic Center in September 2001. “Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.”
Can you imagine if Obama had said that? I never was a big GWB fan but he never engaged in the hate of Muslims that these candidates including his own brother.are engaging in.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:47:00am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:47:16am

I really strongly feel though at its core and in an American context, conservatism is an inherently backwards thinking ideology that constantly seeks to exclude rather than include.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:47:31am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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Your fan club is creepy man.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:48:23am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

Oh we absolutely agree, I am just saying that’s what the moderates delude themselves about. I see it here. And you’re right, “reasonable” guys like Jonah have been part of the problem for years. I haven’t forgotten and nor will I forgive him likening liberalism to fascism.

Yeah, sorry if I sound strident.

This whole “hey, help me get this toothpaste back in the tube…and maybe I won’t squeeze it all out again…but you’re still the bane of my existence, so I probably will just to frustrate you” thing is getting on my nerves.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:51:24am

re: #77 The Ghost of What Plants Crave

Yeah, sorry if I sound strident.

This whole “hey, help me get this toothpaste back in the tube…and maybe I won’t squeeze it all out again…but you’re still the bane of my existence, so I probably will just to frustrate you” thing is getting on my nerves.

By no means, we’re on the same page. I’ve been getting fed up with the supposed moderates too because they create this machine by either MBFing or by in the past enabling them. I really as I said think the problem is with conservative ideology itself. Until that changes, the right will always have a happy home to people like Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:51:34am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

I really strongly feel though at its core and in an American context, conservatism is an inherently backwards thinking ideology that constantly seeks to exclude rather than include.

Conservatism is really only about protecting the power of whoever is in power. Rich people, white people, male people, Christian people - whoever has the power keeps the power. That’s all Conservatism is.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:54:05am

Hmmm, like the mythical Dow 30k, I’ve reached 60k comments (since registration). Thanks Charles!

To the tip jar!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:54:37am

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

Conservatism is really only about protecting the power of whoever is in power. Rich people, white people, male people, Christian people - whoever has the power keeps the power. That’s all Conservatism is.

Yes.

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:55:40am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

I really strongly feel though at its core and in an American context, conservatism is an inherently backwards thinking ideology that constantly seeks to exclude rather than include.

It is certainly difficult to think of even one instance of US conservatives being correct about any political issue. Ever.

But they aren’t just 100% wrong. The poison from the Southern Strategy has thoroughly infected the entire movement and party. The results of this embrace of evil are presently on display.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:56:13am

re: #31 jaunte

Is Rubio ready to close down tourism to keep us “safe?”

At least 19 million people visit the United States through the visa waiver program every year.

Probably tourism from “those” countries. (wink wink).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:56:56am

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Yes.

And so Conservative ideology is built around the belief that the people in power DESERVE to be in power, so that any change from that would be both upsetting the natural order of things, and taking from the deserving to give to the undeserving.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:57:03am

re: #82 EPR-radar

It is certainly difficult to think of even one instance of US conservatives being correct about any political issue. Ever.

But they aren’t just 100% wrong. The poison from the Southern Strategy has thoroughly infected the entire movement and party. The results of this embrace of evil are presently on display.

Agreed on both counts.

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nines09  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:57:04am

This just shows you how utterly insane the base is. These pandering tools are beholden to the stupid they created. There is no middle ground on the right. None.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:57:39am

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

And so Conservative ideology is built around the belief that the people in power DESERVE to be in power, so that any change from that would be both upsetting the natural order of things, and taking from the deserving to give to the undeserving.

Right . That’s definitely true.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:58:06am

No, we’re looking for candidates who know that if someone is proposing an unconstitutional, illegal, or otherwise out-of-bounds solution, that the candidate would identify and respond as much.

Saying that you’ll look into it, followed by saying that “I would implement that. Absolutely” is the precisely wrong way to respond.

So far, none of the GOPers seem to get that - and even fewer of the right wing pundits.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:58:32am

It’s a political version of kids doing stupid dares. “I bet you won’t sniff dog shit.” becomes “I bet you won’t be able to stay silent while I call for Muslims being second clsas citizens.”

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Kragar  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:58:52am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:59:27am

re: #82 EPR-radar

It is certainly difficult to think of even one instance of US conservatives being correct about any political issue. Ever.

But they aren’t just 100% wrong. The poison from the Southern Strategy has thoroughly infected the entire movement and party. The results of this embrace of evil are presently on display.

Blind pig. Acorn.

Their rejection of empirically derived knowledge in favor of belief and wishful thinking means even when they might stumble across a good policy position, it will almost certainly be for the wrong reason.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:59:34am

re: #88 lawhawk

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No, we’re looking for candidates who know that if someone is proposing an unconstitutional, illegal, or otherwise out-of-bounds solution, that the candidate would identify and respond as much.

Saying that you’ll look into it, followed by saying that “I would implement that. Absolutely” is the precisely wrong way to respond.

So far, none of the GOPers seem to get that - and even fewer of the right wing pundits.

Yeah, it’s the reporters fault. That’s the ticket, Byron. Deal with it buddy, there’s a lot of fascist and authoritiarian thought in your ideology and party, and no aount of bitching about reporters is going to change that.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 11:59:59am
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:00:28pm

re: #90 Kragar

I think Carson may need more than a few binders. Instead of following only Muslims, Carson wants a security state:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:00:59pm

re: #88 lawhawk

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No, we’re looking for candidates who know that if someone is proposing an unconstitutional, illegal, or otherwise out-of-bounds solution, that the candidate would identify and respond as much.

Saying that you’ll look into it, followed by saying that “I would implement that. Absolutely” is the precisely wrong way to respond.

So far, none of the GOPers seem to get that - and even fewer of the right wing pundits.

“Hey, it’s a gotcha question to ask me whether I’d eat a baby if it were cooked just right!”

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:01:58pm

Not only deserve to be in power, they’re God’s servants. Basic traditional Christianity.

1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

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mr.fusion  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:02:22pm

Charles, this may be worth adding to the bottom of the post

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:02:32pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

Blind pig. Acorn.

Their rejection of empirically derived knowledge in favor of belief and wishful thinking means even when they might stumble across a good policy position, it will almost certainly be for the wrong reason.

A herd of magical thinkers is ripe for abuse by demagogues. As we’re seeing.

This kind of deliberate stupidity is a real threat, since self-government is simply impossible if a large enough fraction of the population ‘thinks’ this way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:03:54pm

re: #97 mr.fusion

Charles, this may be worth adding to the bottom of the post

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You pretty much could add that to all stories involving Marco. It’s one of the big reasons to laugh at him when he portrays himself as the adult in the room.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:04:57pm

re: #93 Lidane

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Uh huh. Sour grapes, poison m&ms, rabid dogs, rats, I’ve lost count of the things that the right has compared these people to.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:05:16pm

Comment I just saw elsewhere:

Instead of comparing the fleeing WWII Jews to the Muslim refugees, a better analogy would be comparing the fleeing Germans at the end of WWII from the Soviet occupied Germany to that of Muslim refugees.

Will the American people take them in even though some of them may be Nazi or SS ? And most of them had been Nazi sympathisers or supporters at one time or another.

Ugh. These are potential voters. WTF.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:06:26pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Uh huh. Sour grapes, poison m&ms, rabid dogs, rats, I’ve lost count of the things that the right has compared these people to.

Everything and anything but human beings.

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Brian J.  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:06:39pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Uh huh. Sour grapes, poison m&ms, rabid dogs, rats, I’ve lost count of the things that the right has compared these people to.

I want to see some of those sour dogs and rabid M&Ms.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:07:01pm

re: #101 Lidane

Comment I just saw elsewhere:

Ugh. These are potential voters. WTF.

Well since you asked, we did take in plenty of German refugees who were fleeing the Soviets, yes. This is disgusting. Most of the people we’re going to take in are children or elderly people. It must be fucking sad to be that afraid all the time. No wonder why these people need their dick substitutes with them when they go everywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:07:39pm

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

Everything and anything but human beings.

Precisely. The dehumanization of these people is disgusting. Doesn’t matter if you’re likening them to rats or grapes, it’s all nasty and very dare I say Nazi like.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:08:00pm

re: #103 Brian J.

I want to see some of those sour dogs and rabid M&Ms.

I had a sour beer once if that counts.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:08:16pm
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:10:45pm

re: #107 Lidane

And remember that incident when he later declared bankruptcy on the casino.

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:11:51pm

All anti-American propaganda pales in comparison with the actions of wingnut governors and politicians.

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WhatEVs  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:12:42pm

re: #67 lawhawk

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Except that GWB would be labeled a RINO and run out of the room.

Saint Ronnie of Reagan would be labeled a RINO…he was a union presidenct, amnesty approvin’, tax raisin’ heathen.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:12:53pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Well since you asked, we did take in plenty of German refugees who were fleeing the Soviets, yes. This is disgusting. Most of the people we’re going to take in are children or elderly people. It must be fucking sad to be that afraid all the time. No wonder why these people need their dick substitutes with them when they go everywhere.

How many American military personnel married Germans? (My paternal grandmother was from Kassel, Germany, they met after the end of the war.) I guess the conservatives think we shouldn’t have let them into the country?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:13:03pm

re: #109 Nyet

All anti-American propaganda pales in comparison with the actions of wingnut governors and politicians.

They make us look so bad to the rest of the world.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:13:05pm

re: #108 lawhawk

Which time? He only managed to do it four times?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:13:26pm

re: #93 Lidane

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Wait…..we’re supposed to eat refugees?!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:14:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:14:18pm

re: #111 Timothy Watson

How many American military personnel married Germans? (My paternal grandmother was from Kassel, Germany, they met after the end of the war.) I guess the conservatives think we shouldn’t have let them into the country?

Hey I have distant family from Kassel! But yeah there’s a lot of Americans who are descended from war brides.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:14:54pm

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

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Yes, I can but I would have called you worse than a blowhard little man who can’t take any criticism without throwing a shit fit.

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:15:04pm

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Wait…..we’re supposed to eat refugees?!

He’s a Swift literalist.

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Kragar  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:16:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:16:38pm

re: #118 Nyet

He’s a Swift literalist.

Well given they think Limbaugh is satire, I’m not surprised!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:17:32pm

re: #93 Lidane

Good lord that meme is spreading like wildfire.

If a grape (or whatever) is poisonous there’s typically no changing that. A person on the other hand can become moral or immoral dependent upon how others treat them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:18:22pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Good lord that meme is spreading like wildfire.

If a grape (or whatever) is poisonous there’s typically no changing that. A person on the other hand can become moral or immoral dependent upon how others treat them.

It is just so stupid.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:22:20pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Good lord that meme is spreading like wildfire.

If a grape (or whatever) is poisonous there’s typically no changing that. A person on the other hand can become moral or immoral dependent upon how others treat them.

The flip side for those that claim to be Christian is: How many people that will die because you refused to let them into the country will God give you a pass on?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:26:38pm
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Brian J.  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:27:19pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

Good lord that meme is spreading like wildfire.

If a grape (or whatever) is poisonous there’s typically no changing that. A person on the other hand can become moral or immoral dependent upon how others treat them.

From The Ballad of Reading Gaol, Oscar Wilde:

“The vilest deeds like poison weeds
Bloom well in prison air;
It is only what is good in man
That wastes and withers there.
Pale Anguish keeps the heavy gate,
And the Warder is Despair.

For they starve the little frightened child
Till it weeps both night and day:
And they scourge the weak, and flog the fool,
And gibe the old and grey,
And some grow mad, and all grow bad,
And none a word may say.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:27:25pm

Can you just imagine this asshole throwing people in jail and closing down media outlets that say unflattering things about him? Do you know who else used to do that?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:27:45pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

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Aren’t you running for President, asshole? So thin skinned, how are you going to deal when you’re confronted with someone like President Nieto telling you Mexico’s not going to pay for your stupid wall.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:29:30pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

Every stupid meme about Detroit uses that same photo of the Packard plant which closed down in….
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1958
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When a Republican was Mayor.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:30:08pm

re: #126 The Vicious Babushka

Can you just imagine this asshole throwing people in jail and closing down media outlets that say unflattering things about him? Do you know who else used to do that?

Yep, and this guy is doing it right now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:31:05pm

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Every stupid meme about Detroit uses that same photo of the Packard plant which closed down in….
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1958
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When a Republican was Mayor.

I’m tired of them using Detroit as a punching bag honestly. No one’s stopping you wingnut assholes from revitalizing it. After all, I thought you all were business savvy and understood the economy better than us libtards. //

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:32:01pm

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

Can you believe the worst Mayor in the U.S., & probably the worst Mayor in the history of #NYC, @BilldeBlasio, just called me a blow hard!

3:13 PM - 20 Nov 2015

Hahahahahaaa. More 12 year old spoiled kid Donny.

He’s pissed having another politician call him a blowhard as he runs around America in “campaign speeches” where he calls other politicians all kinds of names like losers, dummies, commies, the worst ever…and peoples rapists, murderers, gangsters, terrorists, criminals, animals, etc.

Like many of you, I too wonder why is The TRUMP® Show still playing? At this point it is completely indescribable.

As strange as it all is…this is going into the history books.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:33:56pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

Hahahahahaaa. More 12 year old spoiled kid Donny.

He’s pissed having another politician call him a blowhard as he runs around America in “campaign speeches” where he call other politicians all kinds of names like losers, dummies, commies, the worst ever…and peoples rapists, murderers, gangsters, terrorists, criminals, animals, etc.

Like many of you, I too wonder why is The TRUMP(r) show still playing? At this point it is completely indescribable.

As strange as it all is…this is going into the history books.

We’re all stars now
In The Dope TRUMP(r) Show

*with apologies to Marilyn Manson

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:37:26pm

re: #131 ObserverArt

Hahahahahaaa. More 12 year old spoiled kid Donny.

He’s pissed having another politician call him a blowhard as he runs around America in “campaign speeches” where he call other politicians all kinds of names like losers, dummies, commies, the worst ever…and peoples rapists, murderers, gangsters, terrorists, criminals, animals, etc.

Like many of you, I too wonder why is The TRUMP(r) show still playing? At this point it is completely indescribable.

As strange as it all is…this is going into the history books.

He’s the classic bully. He can dish it out but cries like a little baby when you call him out on it.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:40:41pm

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

I was going to say that my only surprise was that DeBlasio didn’t drop an f-bomb in there. But everyone else seems to have that base covered.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:42:30pm

re: #2 Kragar

My thoughts exactly.

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No Depression  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:43:27pm

re: #93 Lidane

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Wingnuts like Steve King are like bad guests at a party. If you have 100 people, it only takes 27 assholes to put a damper on the mood. (See, it ain’t that hard to come up with a metaphor that doesn’t dehumanize people.)

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:47:06pm

A Belorussian biker turned his dacha into Sphinx.

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He had wanted a skull, but his wife was against.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:47:43pm

Ok, I’m done for the day. I just saw this and it short circuited my brain. From the “comical conservative”, I give you a piece I call “complete lack of self awareness”…

Click to Reveal
Um, your view is from the middle of the pack
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:48:42pm

re: #138 KGxvi

Ok, I’m done for the day. I just saw this and it short circuited my brain. From the “comical conservative”, I give you a piece I call “complete lack of self awareness”…

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Yeah I just don’t get how they can call fucking Nazis when their candidates are the ones scapegoating entire groups.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:49:58pm

re: #108 lawhawk

And remember that incident when he later declared bankruptcy on the casino.

LOL!! It’s hilarious comments like these which make this website so enjoyable.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:52:07pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:52:26pm

A buddy and I were talking about Trump last night. We were still both wondering if this is the real Trump or is he still jacking around saying shit knowing it sells and he doesn’t buy a half of it? Can we really know?

Our reasoning, he was successful as a business man. He was the ultimate salesman, seemingly able to get major financial institutions to carry him, governments to cater to him and contractors to build his buildings. We are told he spent very little of his own money and used others. That does take some talent.

If he was as wacky as he seems now, some of this evil stuff he says as a candidate should have been revealed throughout his career. Sure he always had the big ego, but he never blurted out this crazy bigoted bullshit as far as I can remember.

So, again, is he bullshitting everyone? Is this the real Donald Trump, or was the younger Trump the real Donald? Or, is there a real Donald Trump and he is the great chameleon/shape-shifter that is what he needs to be for what ever he is getting over on?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:52:36pm

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

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Why yes, I can Trump. Yes I can.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:53:30pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Exactly. What is the Republican Governor of Michigan doing to revitalize Detroit? Mocking people when they’re down is so Christian — it’s exactly what Jesus used to do.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:53:30pm

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

Every stupid meme about Detroit uses that same photo of the Packard plant which closed down in….
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1958
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When a Republican was Mayor.

Anybody or any tweet with a jjauthor in its mentions is one in which the only outcome is a stupid one.

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nkdee  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:53:39pm

re: #46 Lidane

Meanwhile:

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I sent an e-mail to the DLCC today. Each election cycle I get calls from them telling me they are “fighting hard” against the dangerous policies of the GOTP. Every election cycle I donate to them. Today I told them that I would not be donating ever again and the actions of these “Dems” is why. Hope they call me soon.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:54:31pm

re: #141 Lidane

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Confirmed. FACT.

They’re running lose, taking welfare benefits, shooting up schoolyards full of kids….oh wait

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:55:01pm

re: #141 Lidane

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Confirmed fact, you’re a moron Louie.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:55:27pm
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Kilroy01  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:57:22pm

re: #142 ObserverArt

So, again, is he bullshitting everyone? Is this the real Donald Trump, or was the younger Trump the real Donald? Or, is there a real Donald Trump and he is the great chameleon/shape-shifter that is what he needs to be for what ever he is getting over on?


Lt. Col. Charles R. Codman: You know General, sometimes the men don’t know when you’re acting.

Patton/Trump: It’s not important for them to know. It’s only important for me to know.

Scary thought…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:58:33pm

re: #141 Lidane

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Dr. Matt  Nov 20, 2015 • 12:59:03pm

re: #141 Lidane

Louie Gohmert says Obama is letting in terrorists, “that’s been confirmed” t.co

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 20, 2015

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A Mom Anon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:00:57pm

You know, I was thinking about this and how 9/11 kinda (kinda???) made this country lose it’s damned mind and then it occurred to me that the ONLY reason we’re not moving forward from there, and in fact drifting backwards is because of the fearmongering in the media which is then amplified 100x online. The graphics and music intros on the TV, the panicked tone on the radio, the newspaper headlines and the shit being recycled over and over online is what’s driving most of this. It’s not that terrorism is no threat at all, but this over exaggeration of what’s really happening is what is actually more scary than anything ISIL could be doing to us. Because it’s long term, it’s got into people’s heads and it’s spreading like an infection. What happened in Paris happens all over the world all the time. And yet it took an attack in France (home of the cheese eating surrender monkeys, for those who remember that bit of embarrassing stupidity) to bring back the fear?

We’re being turned on one another for a reason. The previous time was so that a few people could take a whole lot of money and line their pockets with it. Is that what’s happening now or is it something even worse? I wish I was smart enough to unravel it. I’m scared, and it’s not of ISIL.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:02:14pm

re: #152 Dr. Matt

They. Haven’t. Been. Arrested.

Then how do we know—confirmed, fact—they’re terrorists or refugees?

Youse the Google, libtard, I don’t have to do your research for you!!!

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CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:02:39pm

re: #53 Nyet

OK, this you can’t blame on snakes.

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Video

Heh, it’s the smell—some cats hate it. If you hold out a banana and ask my older cat (who always falls for the trick) if she wants some she’ll walk up to it then bolt away with an indignant kitty noise that I can’t describe, but which is probably equivalent to a human curse word.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:03:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:04:27pm

re: #156 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Heh.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:04:31pm

You cannot make this stuff up.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:05:19pm

re: #155 CuriousLurker

Heh, it’s the smell—some cats hate it. If you hold out a banana and ask my older cat (who always falls for the trick) if she wants some she’ll walk up to it then bolt away with an indignant kitty noise that I can’t describe, but which is probably equivalent to a human curse word.

Someone posted a link the other day to someone saying that cats react to things like cucumbers on the floor because it’s not normal for them to be there. He also said it’s probably not good for the cat.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:06:01pm

Close down the diners? What a disingenuous POS.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:06:07pm

re: #141 Lidane

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He actually holds the door open for them and ushers them through. FACT!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:06:28pm

re: #158 Aunty Entity Dragon

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You cannot make this stuff up.

She sounds like she’d be nice to have a conversation about Muslins over tea with. //

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:07:55pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Uh huh. Sour grapes, poison m&ms, rabid dogs, rats, I’ve lost count of the things that the right has compared these people to.

Rattlesnakes—don’t forget the rattler analogy.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:08:04pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

She sounds like she’d be nice to have a conversation about Muslins over tea with. //

It’s the thread that ties us together. She’s just dyeing to join in the witty repartee over the looming issues of the day.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:09:01pm

re: #164 lawhawk

*groan*

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:09:03pm

re: #163 BeachDem

Rattlesnakes—don’t forget the rattler analogy.

As I said I lost count. So many.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:09:49pm

re: #138 KGxvi

Ok, I’m done for the day. I just saw this and it short circuited my brain. From the “comical conservative”, I give you a piece I call “complete lack of self awareness”…

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The people who Tweet that meme NEVER studied the Holocaust in school or anywhere else.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:10:24pm

re: #156 Aunty Entity Dragon

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I can’t help myself—it cracks me up every time they say “muslin.” Maybe because it immediately makes me think of the Muslamic Ray Guns guy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:12:20pm

re: #145 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Anybody or any tweet with a jjauthor in its mentions is one in which the only outcome is a stupid one.

jjauthor, LOL I almost forgot about her since we mutually blocked each other. She’s the rich SAHM who tweets memes about MOOCHERS ON WELFARE GET A JERB!!!!! when she has never worked a day in her useless life.

The “author” in her name comes from a self-published book she wrote combining Ayn Rand values with the plot of a lame Verizon commercial.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:12:38pm

re: #156 Aunty Entity Dragon

Oh goody. He lives in Buckhead, in Atlanta. More money than brains in that part of town. Very white, very wealthy and anyone who isn’t them is well, undesirable. That area is also home to bars, shops and restaurants. Some high end, some not. Guess which ones the neighbors complain about and want shut down? I haven’t really been down there in that area in over 20 years except to pass through, it’s not what it used to be. At one point it was the place to be and be seen. Now it’s just blah.

I used to live down there, worked at a health food store owned by a gentleman that owned the place for over 25 yrs til he passed about 10 yrs ago. I met Joseph Lowery and Ralph David Abernathy there, both were customers. And sweet as could be to me too.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:14:42pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

As I said I lost count. So many.

I can never keep track of the GOP analogy of the moment…

Is it rattlesnakes (good for almost anybody)…comparing gay people to pederasts and child rapists….comparing everybody who isn’t in the GOP to Nazis…comparing the French to cheese eating surrender monkeys…comparing trans women to criminally insane perverts and exhibitionists…comparing each other to Democrats and therefore also Nazis…comparing themselves to Ronald Reagan…comparing suspect Christian churches to (insert dubious Pauline epistle insult here) and comparing Jews to Christians who just haven’t figured out they are Christians yet.

What did I miss?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:16:00pm

re: #171 Aunty Entity Dragon

I can never keep track of the GOP analogy of the moment…

Is it rattlesnakes (good for almost anybody)…comparing gay people to pederasts and child rapists….comparing everybody who isn’t in the GOP to Nazis…comparing the French to cheese eating surrender monkeys…comparing trans women to criminally insane perverts and exhibitionists…comparing each other to Democrats and therefore also Nazis…comparing themselves to Ronald Reagan…comparing suspect Christian churches to (insert dubious Pauline epistle insult here) and comparing Jews to Christians who just haven’t figured out they are Christians yet.

What did I miss?

I think you gave me a headache :).

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:16:28pm

The fact that they even have to make a statement about this is galling.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:18:43pm

re: #173 Lidane

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The fact that they even have to make a statement about this is galling.

It really is. But I can’t say how much I appreciate them speaking out. I expect the usual suspects to attack them though.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:21:52pm

re: #173 Lidane

It’s fucking embarrassing. Seriously. And most of these fools claim to support Israel while claiming anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a Nazi.

I’m truly tired of these fools and super sick of them getting so much air time. I’m wondering if maybe it’s time for some media pushback from our side of things. We have to choose our words carefully, but they need to hear from sane people too. There have to be more of us than these crazy ass mean bastards. Aren’t there?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:23:24pm

re: #175 A Mom Anon

It’s fucking embarrassing. Seriously. And most of these fools claim to support Israel while claiming anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a Nazi.

I’m truly tired of these fools and super sick of them getting so much air time. I’m wondering if maybe it’s time for some media pushback from our side of things. We have to choose our words carefully, but they need to hear from sane people too. There have to be more of us than these crazy ass mean bastards. Aren’t there?

That and they love to accuse Obama of being Anti-Israel and Anti-Semitic even though the right has a long and tired history of Antisemitism. As I got at earlier, Obama never had any advisers like Pat Buchanan or Jim Baker, both of whom said some very nasty things about the Jewish people.

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:24:31pm

re: #153 A Mom Anon

You know, I was thinking about this and how 9/11 kinda (kinda???) made this country lose it’s damned mind and then it occurred to me that the ONLY reason we’re not moving forward from there, and in fact drifting backwards is because of the fearmongering in the media which is then amplified 100x online. The graphics and music intros on the TV, the panicked tone on the radio, the newspaper headlines and the shit being recycled over and over online is what’s driving most of this. It’s not that terrorism is no threat at all, but this over exaggeration of what’s really happening is what is actually more scary than anything ISIL could be doing to us. Because it’s long term, it’s got into people’s heads and it’s spreading like an infection. What happened in Paris happens all over the world all the time. And yet it took an attack in France (home of the cheese eating surrender monkeys, for those who remember that bit of embarrassing stupidity) to bring back the fear?

We’re being turned on one another for a reason. The previous time was so that a few people could take a whole lot of money and line their pockets with it. Is that what’s happening now or is it something even worse? I wish I was smart enough to unravel it. I’m scared, and it’s not of ISIL.

What depresses me the most about all of this it that it is now painfully clear that the US will completely lose its mind again if/when there is a major terrorist attack here.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:25:15pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

What depresses me the most about all of this it that it is now painfully clear that the US will completely lose its mind again if/when there is a major terrorist attack here.

I’d seriously fear bans on Islam and pogroms if that happened.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:27:08pm

re: #177 EPR-radar

That’s what scares me, more than an actual attack. Because people will be killing each other with all the weapons they’ve been stockpiling since 9/11. There’s a small but seriously hyper segment of the population that is just looking for an excuse to start shooting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:27:09pm

The problem is no one in the GOP has any real desire to call out bigotry. They’re either okay with it or if they are troubled by it, they choose to stay silent because they’re petrified of the loonies. Either way, the GOP has presented itself as a party that is just fine with bigotry. Doesn’t matter if it’s homophobia, racism, etc. They’re a party for bigoted jackasses by bigoted jackasses who also could care less if you starve.

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SpaceJesus  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:27:40pm

“If I don’t like what someone says,’ Trump continued, imitating the sound of a typewriter, ‘bing bing bing — I say something really bad about them.’”

politico.com

America needs this man to win the Republican nomination.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:27:43pm

Actually comment left by someone at Gawker (yeah, I know) on the story about Anna Duggar calling her family situation “heartbreaking”

BonMorte>Hillary Crosley Coker
11/20/15 3:19pm
So you people are never going to let this family get over and move on? What did Josh Duggar do today that was so heinous? He was a child when he did those terrible things, people grow up. Let people start anew. Leave this family alone.

Needless to say, the commenters are having a field day with this one.

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Kragar  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:27:43pm
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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:27:50pm

re: #171 Aunty Entity Dragon

I can never keep track of the GOP analogy of the moment…

Is it rattlesnakes (good for almost anybody)…comparing gay people to pederasts and child rapists….comparing everybody who isn’t in the GOP to Nazis…comparing the French to cheese eating surrender monkeys…comparing trans women to criminally insane perverts and exhibitionists…comparing each other to Democrats and therefore also Nazis…comparing themselves to Ronald Reagan…comparing suspect Christian churches to (insert dubious Pauline epistle insult here) and comparing Jews to Christians who just haven’t figured out they are Christians yet.

What did I miss?

Ted Nugent comparing himself to Rosa Parks. Bryan Fischer comparing Christian persecution to…well, everything bad that’s ever happened to anyone. Abortion (and sometimes gun control advocacy) is the Holocaust. Being temporarily banned from Twitter is like the Gulags. Gunfuckers are just like Martin Luther King.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:28:50pm

re: #173 Lidane

The fact that they even have to make a statement about this is galling.

We’re not turning our backs, we just have concerns…..also too AMERICA FIRST!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:29:01pm

re: #182 Dr. Matt

Actually comment left by someone at Gawker (yeah, I know) on the story about Anna Duggar calling her family situation “heartbreaking”

Needless to say, the commenters are having a field day with this one.

Funny how personal responsibility goes out the window if you’re a heterosexual conservative white male Christian.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:29:38pm

re: #184 BeachDem

Ted Nugent comparing himself to Rosa Parks. Bryan Fischer comparing Christian persecution to…well, everything bad that’s ever happened to anyone. Abortion (and sometimes gun control advocacy) is the Holocaust. Being temporarily banned from Twitter is like the Gulags. Gunfuckers are just like Martin Luther King.

They just want to be victims so bad which would be annoying as is but it’s even worse that they’re saying this shit while they’re trying to persecute other people.

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Kragar  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:29:46pm

re: #182 Dr. Matt

Actually comment left by someone at Gawker (yeah, I know) on the story about Anna Duggar calling her family situation “heartbreaking”

Needless to say, the commenters are having a field day with this one.

He was a child when he cheated on his wife and paid to have rough sex with a porn star?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:29:58pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

What bigotry? They just want to be sure there aren’t any scary terrorists in the refugees. Or children who might grow up to be terrorists. (As opposed to American children, who just have the potential to grow up to be old-fashioned mass murderers instead, I guess.) Any historical comparisons should be ignored because that was a completely different situation.

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Why yes, I might have been utterly disgusted by something I read this morning, why do you ask?

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:30:37pm

re: #150 Kilroy01

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Lt. Col. Charles R. Codman: You know General, sometimes the men don’t know when you’re acting.

Patton/Trump: It’s not important for them to know. It’s only important for me to know.

Scary thought…

Yes it is.

I think I did a previous General Trump based on Patton ‘shop…let’s see. Oh, here it is.

General Trump seen ordering his foot soldiers to order the G.O.P. National Headquarters to change the rules of war or he will blow the whole thing to smithereens.
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Belafon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:31:01pm

re: #173 Lidane

The fact that they even have to make a statement about this is galling.

Comparing this to the picture at #138 and I’d have to ask people how they think they are like the Jews and not the Germans that bought into the anti-Jewish propaganda.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:31:16pm

re: #183 Kragar

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Really fuck Fox. Name one instance of a refugee actually engaging in terrorism you bigoted fuckwads. Mouton sounds like a good guy. He’s what Republicans can’t stand to see. A liberal who served in uniform and can’t be used in right wing stereotypes about what liberals are. They’re petrified of guys like that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:32:15pm

re: #189 klys (maker of Silmarils)

What bigotry? They just want to be sure there aren’t any scary terrorists in the refugees. Or children who might grow up to be terrorists. (As opposed to American children, who just have the potential to grow up to be old-fashioned mass murderers instead, I guess.) Any historical comparisons should be ignored because that was a completely different situation.

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Why yes, I might have been utterly disgusted by something I read this morning, why do you ask?

You and me both on the disgust factor.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:32:16pm

re: #188 Kragar

He was a child when he cheated on his wife and paid to have rough sex with a porn star?

Adultery can only be criticized when a Democrat does it.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:32:18pm

Il Douche meltdown on Twitter in 3…2…1…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:33:48pm

re: #195 Lidane

Il Douche meltdown on Twitter in 3…2…1…

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There’s a Pro-Rubio PAC called Baby Got Back? God this gets weirder and weirder.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:36:34pm

re: #195 Lidane

Aww the monster they helped create is running amok is it? I have a lot of trouble mustering up much sympathy for them. Good, let them spend a shit ton of money on that project.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:37:43pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

The problem is no one in the GOP has any real desire to call out bigotry. They’re either okay with it or if they are troubled by it, they choose to stay silent because they’re petrified of the loonies. Either way, the GOP has presented itself as a party that is just fine with bigotry. Doesn’t matter if it’s homophobia, racism, etc. They’re a party for bigoted jackasses by bigoted jackasses who also could care less if you starve.

They’re not going to call out bigotry if they think it can help then win elections—otherwise they would’ve done it by now. They’re close to hitting rock bottom in terms of morality now.

It doesn’t help that the MSM is focused on clickbait to the exclusion of almost anything else these days (because the news is more business than journalism thanks to huge multi-national corporations owning the media outlets).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:37:50pm

re: #197 A Mom Anon

Aww the monster they helped create is running amok is it? I have a lot of trouble mustering up much sympathy for them. Good, let them spend a shit ton of money on that project.

I gave up feeling bad for them. You fuckers have called people like me parasites for years. Deal with your creation of someone who actually believes the shit you’ve been selling your base for years. I may actually disdain the establishment types more than the rank and file idiots.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:38:47pm

re: #198 CuriousLurker

They’re not going to call out bigotry if they think it can help then win elections—otherwise they would’ve done it by now. They’re close to hitting rock bottom in terms of morality now.

It doesn’t help that the MSM is focused on clickbait to the exclusion of almost anything else these days (because the news is more business than journalism thanks to huge multi-national corporations owning the media outlets).

Ain’t that scariest thing? It works. We’ve seen Trump who in an even somewhat rational GOP would be sunk by being an unapologetic bigoted asshole.

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Kragar  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:39:09pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:41:14pm

re: #195 Lidane

Il Douche meltdown on Twitter in 3…2…1…

As long as it involves wingnuts setting more money on fire, we should be fine.

(popcorn)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:41:36pm

re: #201 Kragar

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He’s so stupid that his pandering doesn’t even make any sense. Obama’s never done anything close to that. I think Huckabee is either that stupid or he just may be mentally ill.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:41:45pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

There’s a Pro-Rubio PAC called Baby Got Back? God this gets weirder and weirder.

Baby Got PAC

Not that that’s a great deal saner.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:42:01pm

re: #202 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

As long as it involves wingnuts setting more money on fire, we should be fine.

(popcorn)

And Trump’s polls go up in 3…2..1.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:42:47pm

re: #204 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Baby Got PAC

Not that that’s a great deal saner.

Oh it’s a silly pun. Is this Marco’s people of trying to tell the kids he’s cool because he’s got a PAC named after a song that came up when many of us were really young?

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:43:23pm

The GOP doesn’t get to pretend they’re the “good guys”.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:43:45pm

God if I wanted to “gotcha” the Republican candidates, I would make this a debate thing- “Say something nice about President Obama.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:44:30pm

re: #207 Amory Blaine

The GOP doesn’t get to pretend they’re the “good guys”.

There really is nothing redeemable about them at this point that I can see.

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wrenchwench  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:44:38pm
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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:44:58pm

re: #202 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

As long as it involves wingnuts setting more money on fire, we should be fine.

(popcorn)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:45:35pm

re: #93 Lidane

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that’s why some of us prefer our grapes to be fermented…

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CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:46:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:48:02pm

re: #213 CuriousLurker

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Man those French are a bunch of pansies. Why aren’t any of them open carrying? // This is why I laugh when I see wingers act like the French are a bunch of wussies. If they were wussies, they’d be wanting to open carry guns to restaurants and cafes.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:52:05pm

re: #213 CuriousLurker

CHEESE EATING SURRENDER MONKEYS!

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A Mom Anon  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:52:52pm

re: #213 CuriousLurker

And meanwhile in America sales of Depends, toilet paper and firearms are up…. This is what freaks me out, in freaking PARIS they aren’t as terrified as a significant number of Americans are. France STILL has plans to let 30K refugees into the country.

Maybe it’s because the Europeans come from older, established countries and so they’re more grown up in some ways. America is less than 250 yrs old, and we’ve really only had one big war back in the 1800s that killed off a significant number of people, so we don’t get it. Europe survived WWII and Hitler FFS. I just wish we’d grow the hell up, this shit is so discouraging.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:54:28pm

re: #215 Lidane

CHEESE EATING SURRENDER MONKEYS!

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What amuses me is they got it from the Simpsons when Willie was espousing what is a satirical view of what many view the French to be. I was talking the other day with my Dad about how the French lost more men at Verdun and the Somme than we have in any of our wars and their experiences in both World Wars is why they’re not exactly gung ho about war. We never had an entire generation of young men wiped out like they did in WWI. We lost a lot of people in the Civil War yes but nothing like WWI where whole villages lost all their young men to the war.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:54:50pm

re: #216 A Mom Anon

Yeah, I’m beyond mortified by our collective behavior.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:55:53pm

re: #213 CuriousLurker

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I want some camembert right now!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:56:29pm

Not to mention many Americans should be aware that without a certain French speaking nation, we would have never defeated the British. Sure Louis’ reasons weren’t all together altruistic but you know what, I will never hate on the French. Are they a perfect nation, no but they deserve better than to be the punchline of some right wing asshole who would shit his pants if we actually ever were invaded by a foreign power like France was twice last century.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:56:57pm

re: #64 Nyet

Du Hast in Yiddish.

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Video

That is excellent!

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:57:35pm

re: #219 Stanley Sea Toujours

fine, just leave some chevre for me.

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:57:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:58:44pm

re: #223 electrotek

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Boo fucking yeah. Semper Fi Sgt. Rashid.

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:59:24pm

re: #195 Lidane

Il Douche meltdown on Twitter in 3…2…1…

Talking Points Memo ✔ @TPM

Republicans launch new offensive to take down Donald Trump bit.ly

4:23 PM - 20 Nov 2015

If they take down Trump, do not a few of the others have to go too?

Like Carson, Cruz, Paul and Rubio. They have all allowed Trump to influence them to some degree.

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Tigger2  Nov 20, 2015 • 1:59:47pm

re: #213 CuriousLurker

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:00:41pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

If they take down Trump, do not a few of the others have to go too?

Like Carson, Cruz, Paul and Rubio. They have all allowed Trump to influence them to some degree.

They continue to think Trump is the problem but what they refuse to admit is they’d have this problem without Trump and they’re going to find that out when Clinton’s campaign plays clips of whoever the nominee is trying to out Trump-Trump.

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Brian J.  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:01:54pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

If they take down Trump, do not a few of the others have to go too?

Like Carson, Cruz, Paul and Rubio. They have all allowed Trump to influence them to some degree.

They continue to think Trump is the problem but what they refuse to admit is they’d have this problem without Trump and they’re going to find that out when Clinton’s campaign plays clips of whoever the nominee is trying to out Trump-Trump.

That may be part of why some of the “Establishment” donors want Romney in. He’s the only guy not giving Hillary huge slabs of red meat.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:03:07pm

re: #228 Brian J.

That may be part of why some of the “Establishment” donors want Romney in. He’s the only guy not giving Hillary huge slabs of red meat.

Yeah probably. I think it would be a huge mistake to nominate Romney again. Romney’s problems haven’t exactly disappeared.

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Brian J.  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:04:23pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Oh it’s a silly pun. Is this Marco’s people of trying to tell the kids he’s cool because he’s got a PAC named after a song that came up when many of us were really young?

Sir Mix-a-Lot’s masterpiece is 23 years old. I bet some of you can feel the grey hairs growing after I said that.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:05:16pm

re: #230 Brian J.

Sir Mix-a-Lot’s masterpiece is 23 years old. I bet some of you can feel the grey hairs growing after I said that.

And for some, it may be best known for the strange Burger King-SpongeBob commercial.

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Tigger2  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:05:19pm

re: #230 Brian J.

Sir Mix-a-Lot’s masterpiece is 23 years old. I bet some of you can feel the grey hairs growing after I said that.

I already had gray hairs then.

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ObserverArt  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:05:44pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Man those French are a bunch of pansies. Why aren’t any of them open carrying? // This is why I laugh when I see wingers act like the French are a bunch of wussies. If they were wussies, they’d be wanting to open carry guns to restaurants and cafes.

If they were pansies they would all be under covers at home watching their version of FOX News (if they even have one) listening to their politicians pander bigoted thinking and worried about the next attack to come.

Like “good patriotic” Americans.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:05:55pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

If they take down Trump, do not a few of the others have to go too?

Like Carson, Cruz, Paul and Rubio. They have all allowed Trump to influence them to some degree.

We should recruit the TPM commenters.

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Brian J.  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:06:00pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Yeah probably. I think it would be a huge mistake to nominate Romney again. Romney’s problems haven’t exactly disappeared.

The only way I can see a Romney candidacy happening is if the nomination is hopelessly deadlocked (which won’t be apparent before the New York primary on April 19), and no other candidate acceptable to all factions can be found. Even then, the risk of a third- and/or fourth-party eruption is high.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:06:07pm

re: #230 Brian J.

Sir Mix-a-Lot’s masterpiece is 23 years old. I bet some of you can feel the grey hairs growing after I said that.

Yeah that was gray on my beard I just felt. Granted I was 5 that year but damn. But you know this is how I think Republicans understand young people. They tried making Paul Ryan look hip too and all his favorite bands were bands that were pretty mainstream. I am not a big Rage Against the Machine fan but I loved Tom Morello(sp?) telling Ryan flat out that he’s part of the machine they rage against.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:06:44pm

re: #235 Brian J.

The only way I can see a Romney candidacy happening is if the nomination is hopelessly deadlocked (which won’t be apparent before the New York primary on April 19), and no other candidate acceptable to all factions can be found. Even then, the risk of a third- and/or fourth-party eruption is high.

It’s gonna be interesting to watch in any case.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:19:33pm

re: #223 electrotek

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This tweet is blowing up Drumpf’s feed. I just added to it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:19:40pm

The list of Paris victims is out. I found at least 4 Muslim victims on that list.

The GOP/Conservatives think that those 4 victims are no better than those that killed them. Just let that thought sink in.

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:19:54pm

A tale of two different Armenians from Los Angeles:

Respect to Sophia for keeping a cool head, especially being an Armenian from Los Angeles.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:21:06pm

re: #227 HappyWarrior

If they take down Trump, do not a few of the others have to go too?

Like Carson, Cruz, Paul and Rubio. They have all allowed Trump to influence them to some degree.

They continue to think Trump is the problem but what they refuse to admit is they’d have this problem without Trump and they’re going to find that out when Clinton’s campaign plays clips of whoever the nominee is trying to out Trump-Trump.

If only I had faith in any DNC campaign to use such material. But they never do. This upcoming campaign needs to be different.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:21:34pm

re: #240 electrotek

A tale of two different Armenians from Los Angeles:

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Respect to Sophia for keeping a cool head, especially being an Armenian from Los Angeles.

It’s interesting how people with similiar backgrounds respond. We all know about Ted Cruz being part Cuban but he’s also part Italian and Irish. Cruz is claiming the Italians and Irish were never regarded as violent which is laughable.

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Lidane  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:21:42pm

If Trump or Carson get nominated, what are the chances we’ll see establishment GOP types pulling a VOTE FOR HILLARY, IT’S IMPORTANT move to prevent an obviously unqualified boob from making it to the White House?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:21:54pm

re: #241 GlutenFreeJesus

If only I had faith in any DNC campaign to use such material. But they never do. This upcoming campaign needs to be different.

Very true unfortunately.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:22:28pm

re: #243 Lidane

If Trump or Carson get nominated, what are the chances we’ll see establishment GOP types pulling a VOTE FOR HILLARY, IT’S IMPORTANT move to prevent an obviously unqualified boob from making it to the White House?

Back then, the GOP had some integrity.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:22:57pm

re: #243 Lidane

If Trump or Carson get nominated, what are the chances we’ll see establishment GOP types pulling a VOTE FOR HILLARY, IT’S IMPORTANT move to prevent an obviously unqualified boob from making it to the White House?

0. Ask Dark Falcon. They will think they can control him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:24:53pm

re: #246 Belafon

0. Ask Dark Falcon. They will think they can control him.

That’s adorable. I’m going to bring a leash and free a lion from the zoo. I’ll let you know how it goes.

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Tigger2  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:25:03pm

re: #243 Lidane

If Trump or Carson get nominated, what are the chances we’ll see establishment GOP types pulling a VOTE FOR HILLARY, IT’S IMPORTANT move to prevent an obviously unqualified boob from making it to the White House?

There might be more FB groups start up like the Republicans for Obama group.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:25:08pm

HRC and Bernie have moved to page 2 of the Intertubes. Right now that’s a good thing.

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:25:20pm

re: #242 HappyWarrior

It’s interesting how people with similiar backgrounds respond. We all know about Ted Cruz being part Cuban but he’s also part Italian and Irish. Cruz is claiming the Italians and Irish were never regarded as violent which is laughable.

No kidding.

Derp

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:26:56pm

msnbc.com
Yep, they did this.

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:28:27pm

Holy shit this chick is a fucking moron

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EPR-radar  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:28:57pm

re: #246 Belafon

0. Ask Dark Falcon. They will think they can control him.

Today’s GOPers will vote for any kind of evil as long as it runs as Republican.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:29:11pm

re: #252 electrotek

Holy shit this chick is a fucking moron

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Jesus.

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:30:26pm

re: #228 Brian J.

That may be part of why some of the “Establishment” donors want Romney in. He’s the only guy not giving Hillary huge slabs of red meat.

That’s only because Romney has been smart enough to not say anything this election cycle.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:30:33pm

re: #250 electrotek

No kidding.

Derp

Muslims never target other Muslims. Christians never target other Christians. Fact.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:35:29pm

re: #252 electrotek

Holy shit this chick is a fucking moron

Doubt she even existed in 1995.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:38:31pm

re: #252 electrotek

Holy shit this chick is a fucking moron

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Aum Shinrikyo ring a bell? Sarin gas…Tokyo subway….

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:39:31pm

re: #257 GlutenFreeJesus

Doubt she even existed in 1995.

There are over 100,000 Muslims in Japan for crying out loud.

It says a lot about Tokyo when I see a group of Muslims praying Maghrib prayers in fucking Shibuya of all places and not one person gives a flying fuck about it.

Yes, in Shibuya! Group of Muslim men praying, and no one cares!

Shocking, I know.

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:41:07pm

re: #258 Barefoot Grin

Aum Shinrikyo ring a bell? Sarin gas…Tokyo subway….

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:41:54pm

re: #259 electrotek

There are over 100,000 Muslims in Japan for crying out loud.

It says a lot about Tokyo when I see a group of Muslims praying Maghrib prayers in fucking Shibuya of all places and not one person gives a flying fuck about it.

Yes, in Shibuya! Group of Muslim men praying, and no one cares!

Shocking, I know.

Forgot to add that I saw this at a car park in Shibuya.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:44:55pm

re: #260 electrotek

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Wait, Japan has no terrorist attacks because no Muslims (except the thousands that you pointed out) but the terrorist attacks it has don’t count because they aren’t Muslims?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:48:15pm

re: #239 GlutenFreeJesus

The list of Paris victims is out. I found at least 4 Muslim victims on that list.

The GOP/Conservatives think that those 4 victims are no better than those that killed them. Just let that thought sink in.

There are actually at least six that I’m aware of: Halima Saadi, her sister Houda Saadi, Djamila Houd, Asta Diakité, Mohamed Amine Ibholmobarak, and Kheireddine Sahbi. (Source: theguardian.com)

The terrorists intentionally hit a very diverse part of Paris, as evidenced in this poignant article in the WSJ (not a periodical I usually read, so I was surpised):

At Paris Bistro La Belle Equipe, a Vision of France Is Damaged

PARIS—Most mornings, Hodda Saadi arrived at work before 8 a.m. to open the new bistro La Belle Equipe, where the onetime waitress had become a manager and was soon to become a shareholder.

Then on Friday, Islamist gunmen sprayed the restaurant with bullets, killing 19 people. Ms. Saadi, the French-born daughter of Tunisian immigrants, and several of her friends—including a Mexican woman, a Congolese man and the Muslim partner of the restaurant’s Jewish owner—were slaughtered.

“My boss is a Jew. He was married to a Muslim,” said Elie Renton, a chef at La Belle Equipe, who left the restaurant shortly before the attack. “White, black, Arab—who cares? They were all my friends.” […]

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2015 • 2:55:07pm

re: #230 Brian J.

Sir Mix-a-Lot’s masterpiece is 23 years old. I bet some of you can feel the grey hairs growing after I said that.

My grey hairs were well in place by the Time the good Sir hit MTV.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 20, 2015 • 3:39:13pm

re: #213 CuriousLurker

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In related news, GOP hiding under their respective beds.

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Alephnaught  Nov 20, 2015 • 3:53:16pm

re: #230 Brian J.

Sir Mix-a-Lot’s masterpiece is 23 years old. I bet some of you can feel the grey hairs growing after I said that.

As is this. (And, yes I do feel the grey hairs.)

The Prodigy - Out Of Space (Official Video)

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electrotek  Nov 20, 2015 • 7:09:03pm

re: #266 Alephnaught

As is this. (And, yes I do feel the grey hairs.)

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Saw The Prodigy in Tokyo 3 months ago and boy Maxim, Flint, and Liam Howlett still bring it out proper.


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