Good Grief; Now Ben Carson Is Also Saying He “Saw the Film” of Muslims Cheering in New Jersey on 9/11

Untethered from reality
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The avalanche of dishonest derp is gaining strength, as GOP presidential candidate Ben Carson co-signs Donald Trump’s totally false claim that “thousands” of American Muslims were seen celebrating in New Jersey after the 9/11 attacks.

Fact: neither Trump nor Carson actually saw any “film” of New Jersey Muslims cheering the attacks, because that film simply does not exist.

The Republican presidential campaign is now completely untethered from reality. They’ll obviously say anything to pander to the craziest and most extreme elements of the right wing base.

UPDATE at 11/23/15 11:53:57 am by Charles Johnson

Here’s the video:

Video

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:48:38am

And their reply when presented with the overwhelming evidence that they are wrong is to simply deny, attack and move the goal posts.

In the late 70’s early 80’s I was active with Young Republicans. I’m so glad that I’m not that person any more.

RBS

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:49:39am

And folks, this is how mass hysteria gets rolling and turns into shit like the Salem Witch Hunt and Red Panic.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:50:39am

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

And folks, this is how mass hysteria gets rolling and turns into shit like the Salem Witch Hunt and Red Panic.

or, ya know, the rise of the fourth reich: American style.

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Belafon  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:51:02am

Considering all the footage we were able to put together of the planes crashing into the towers on 9-11, we ought to be able to find footage of celebrations. It’s the 21st century, and people tape every celebration these days.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:51:21am

Is there a chance Ben Carson is under permanent hypnosis? I’ve never seen anyone so vulnerable to the power of suggestion.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:51:44am

Carly will say she saw it too, right before she saw the video of a full-term babby being delivered & harvested.

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lawhawk  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:52:57am

Repeated from below:

There are reports that were never verified/corroborated that people were partying/celebrating 9/11.

There are no confirmed reports, let alone photographic or video evidence showing people in Jersey City or Paterson partying or celebrating the 9/11 attacks.

None.

Considering all the video/photos shot in the NYC metro area in the hours and days after the attacks, that there isn’t a single image, let alone confirmed report shows just how nonsensical Trump’s statements were.

And Carson just dives headlong into a fact-challenged statement that he too saw the same video that doesn’t exist?

Who are these two nitwits getting their advise from ? Carly Fiorina who swears that she saw video that doesn’t exist either?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:53:30am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:54:20am

Video

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:54:26am

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Carly will say she saw it too, right before she saw the video of a full-term babby being delivered & harvested.

Its simple really. These people know that not only is there no penalty for lying, its positively harmful to winning the GOP nomination not to lie. The only time Carly was gaining traction in the race was when she was lying her ass off in the debate.

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:55:19am
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BeachDem  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:55:48am

The only thing I’d change is:

They’ll obviously say anything to pander to the craziest and most extreme elements of the right wing base.

It’s hard to tell the ends from the middle anymore.

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b.d.  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:55:50am

I saw that footage too, it was part of a double feature with the “Whitey Tape”

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:56:23am

re: #10 Big Beautiful Door

Its simple really. These people know that not only is there no penalty for lying, its positively harmful to winning the GOP nomination not to lie. The only time Carly was gaining traction in the race was when she was lying her ass off in the debate.

If you happen to point out to a Republican that their candidates lie about everything, all the time, they get all HURR HURR HILLARY BENGHAZI!!!!! IF U LIKE UR PLAN U CAN KEEP UR PLAN!!!! BENGHAZI HURR HURR!!!!1!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:56:31am

re: #13 b.d.

I saw that footage too, it was part of a double feature with the “Whitey Tape”

//

Does that include Frank Marshall Davis saying “No, Barack, I am your father.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:56:44am

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Carly will say she saw it too, right before she saw the video of a full-term babby being delivered & harvested.

Carly, gosh, almost forgot about her.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:57:15am

Let’s see the damn footage already, you lunatics!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:57:40am

This shit is never going to end. The Republican Party really wants to be the BNP of American politics.

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lawhawk  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:57:41am

re: #11 Kragar

And that’s the point where the block button comes out. If you cite to white supremacist/nationalist sites? You’re done. Toast. Blocked.

But this is the Trump base - and their proclivities are to go to sites that reinforce their worldview.

That’s not just Trump’s problem - it’s the GOP. This is their base. They are going down the rabbit hole and it’s not a good place for the nation.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:57:53am

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t forget Romney.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:58:07am

re: #11 Kragar

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FBI Crime Statistics are so easily accessed that if someone links to anything else, it’s pretty clear they are doing so because they know the real data don’t support them.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:58:13am

re: #20 GlutenFreeJesus

Don’t forget Romney.

What happened with Romney?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:58:34am

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

If you happen to point out to a Republican that their candidates lie about everything, all the time, they get all HURR HURR HILLARY BENGHAZI!!!!! IF U LIKE UR PLAN U CAN KEEP UR PLAN!!!! BENGHAZI HURR HURR!!!!1!!!

We got to keep our health insurance plan, probably because it was a real health insurance plan that actually covered things (thank you union!).
And it got even better with the passage of ACA.

Funny how that works.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 11:59:50am

re: #11 Kragar

Hear is are awesome truth cite read it Libtard!!!1

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:00:13pm

Lets hear it for the Satanists

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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:00:33pm

When challenged, the candidates will explain they saw a Muslim celebrating Eid in a new jersey, a Hanes or Nike perhaps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:00:33pm

uh oh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:01:00pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

What happened with Romney?

Romney, right after accusing the Obama Administration of siding with terrorists, the morning after the Benghazi attacks.

This one’s in the bag!
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:01:15pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

What happened with Romney?

The Benghazi smirk.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:01:40pm

re: #21 Blind Frog Belly White

FBI Crime Statistics are so easily accessed that if someone links to anything else, it’s pretty clear they are doing so because they know the real data don’t support them.

The Department of Injustice is just making up whatever numbers obama wants, just like the employment numbers. Don’t be a sheeple!!!!

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:02:31pm

re: #28 Blind Frog Belly White

Romney, right after accusing the Obama Administration of siding with terrorists, the morning after the Benghazi attacks.

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YEah that’s right. I remember now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:02:52pm

re: #29 GlutenFreeJesus

The Benghazi smirk.

Yeah I remember now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:03:15pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

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He’s such a toddler.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:03:36pm

Just in case you think Trump supporters are the worst, here is a reminder that there are supporters of a candidate even worse than Trump==>

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:03:41pm

re: #25 Kragar

Lets hear it for the Satanists

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That odd moment wen the Satanists ae the nice guy.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:03:42pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

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IIRC, The Donald said that his agreement with the GOP was that as long as they treated him fairly he wouldn’t go third party and would endorse the candidate that was chosen. How’s that working out for ya, GOP?

RBS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:03:48pm

So much for Trump being such an expert in making deals…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:04:08pm

re: #30 Reality Based Steve

The Department of Injustice is just making up whatever numbers obama wants, just like the employment numbers. Don’t be a sheeple!!!!

RBS

I once had a wingnut tell me that he believed an anonymous outrage email about Social Security over the actual Social Security Administration’s debunking of that specific email.

How do you deal with such willful ignorance?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:04:13pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

Just in case you think Trump supporters are the worst, here is a reminder that there are supporters of a candidate even worse than Trump==>

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Lovely.

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Teukka  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:04:35pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

That odd moment wen the Satanists ae the nice guy.

A clear indication when you have sunk too low, even Satanists will not have any of it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:05:13pm

re: #36 Reality Based Steve

IIRC, The Donald said that his agreement with the GOP was that as long as they treated him fairly he wouldn’t go third party and would endorse the candidate that was chosen. How’s that working out for ya, GOP?

RBS

“Nice political party you got here. Be a shame if sumpin’ was to happen to it…”

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:06:05pm

Charles Johnson,

Well, Ben Carson is a young Earth creationist, so off course he’s “Untethered from reality.”

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lawhawk  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:06:36pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s looking like Lando:

Robot Chicken: This Deal’s Getting Worse All The Time

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:06:38pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

That odd moment wen the Satanists ae the nice guy.

Most of the Satanists I’ve met have been a little goofy, but generally nice, people.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:07:21pm

re: #42 CriticalDragon1177

Charles Johnson,

Well, Ben Carson is a young Earth creationist, so off course he’s “Untethered from reality.”

When you have to deny obvious reality in order to maintain your belief system, you can be made to believe just about anything.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:07:21pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

He’s such a toddler.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:07:37pm

re: #40 Teukka

A clear indication when you have sunk too low, even Satanists will not have any of it.

It’s the Stanists you have to watch out for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:08:14pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:08:40pm

re: #47 Barefoot Grin

It’s the Stanists you have to watch out for.

And the followers of BeelzeBob.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:08:52pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

I once had a wingnut tell me that he believed an anonymous outrage email about Social Security over the actual Social Security Administration’s debunking of that specific email.

How do you deal with such willful ignorance?

You can’t. That is a person who refuses to listen to anything that isn’t going to slot into their preset world view. New information that challenges their “knowledge” must be wrong because if it is, in fact, correct, then they are wrong.

All you can do is keep trying to get little bits in, hope that at some point cognitive dissonance starts to kick in, and they at least re-consider their views. One problem now is that it’s so easy to simply get all your news and info from a source pre-selected for your world view.

RBS

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:09:01pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

I once had a wingnut tell me that he believed an anonymous outrage email about Social Security over the actual Social Security Administration’s debunking of that specific email.

How do you deal with such willful ignorance?

What can men do against such reckless hate?
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Theoden Rides Out

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:09:58pm

re: #1 Reality Based Steve

And their reply when presented with the overwhelming evidence that they are wrong is to simply deny, attack and move the goal posts.

In the late 70’s early 80’s I was active with Young Republicans. I’m so glad that I’m not that person any more.

RBS

I’m glad I left the right as well. I’m so ashamed of myself for how stupid I once was. Hopefully changing demographics will eventually force the GOP to become more moderate to survive.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:10:00pm

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

What can men do against such reckless hate?
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Damn! and me with no horse!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:10:15pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:11:30pm

What’s inside a wingnut’s head==>

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lawhawk  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:11:41pm
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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:13:40pm

Will anyone in the MSM call this guy out? What a shameless liar.

Why American People Are Scared of Syrian Refugees.
Read more at littlegreenfootballs.com

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darthstar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:15:11pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:16:15pm

Should go over like a Starbucks cup, but it’s for the cops, so who knows?

Rio Rancho Mayor Gregg Hull is asking Rio Rancho residents and businesses to string up blue holiday lights and decor in honor of law enforcement officers.

The city will then accept nominations for the best blue light display.

Nominations should include the specific street address, business information and a photo. The nominations can be emailed to Rose Martinez at romartinez@rrnm.gov no later than Dec. 13, 2015.

The winners will be presented with a proclamation and receive a personal delivery of cookies and hot chocolate from Mayor Hull on Dec. 20, 2015.

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:16:43pm
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lawhawk  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:17:01pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:17:38pm

How are they going to beat the big, bad ISIS when they’re skeered of Teh Wimmens!
Benny the Bedwetter==>

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Belafon  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:17:50pm

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

What can men do against such reckless hate?
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There’s a woman who works in the cafeteria where I work whose birth name is Galadriel. It’s pretty obvious her love of anime and cosplay was handed down to her.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:18:05pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

How are they going to beat the big, bad ISIS when they’re skeered of Teh Wimmens!
Benny the Bedwetter==>

TERRIFYING!!!!

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:18:43pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:18:53pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

No wonder they’re looking for a Big Daddy President to tell them everything will be safe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:19:09pm

re: #25 Kragar

You know we have a problem in America when Satanists are doing Christianity better than “Christians” are.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:19:14pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

How are they going to beat the big, bad ISIS when they’re skeered of Teh Wimmens!
Benny the Bedwetter==>

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Well it’s terrifying to be Ben Shapiro because it means being miserable 24/7. Although, I suspect that’s not what this is about. Someone call a wahblunace for Ben, he needs it.

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No Depression  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:19:18pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

How are they going to beat the big, bad ISIS when they’re skeered of Teh Wimmens!
Benny the Bedwetter==>

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:19:47pm

Anyone else have the “Lumberjack Song” running through your head all day?

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KGxvi  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:20:49pm

So, in a political climate where they will be lucky to get to 50% of the vote, their plan is to alienate minority groups so that they overwhelmingly vote for the other side? Ok, the Muslim population isn’t as big as the African American population, or the Latino population, but if you have to do everything possible to scrape your way to 50%+1, why would you piss off even 1% of the population so that they’ll vote overwhelmingly against you?

Do they really think that this kind of stuff will gin up enough support among conservative whites (without a comparably sized backlash among moderate and/or liberal whites)?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:21:54pm

re: #63 Belafon

There’s a woman who works in the cafeteria where I work whose birth name is Galadriel. It’s pretty obvious her love of anime and cosplay was handed down to her.

Yesterday was the Younger Boy’s birthday, so we went out to dinner. We found ourselves laughing at weird shit like we always do, stuff that most folks might not even find funny. I can only imagine our disappointment if either of our children had turned out to be Mundanes.

Sure, we’d still love them, but, well….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:21:58pm

It’s amazing that the LEADING GOP PRESIDENTIAL candidates can say all this stupid shit and not only does it not hurt their poll numbers (even the opposite in some cases) but their supporters then IMMEDIATELY start DEFENDING said stupid shit no matter what.

I’m almost convinced there’s not a “too far” for these people. Every time I think we’ve got there, we just keep on going further.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:22:08pm

re: #71 KGxvi

So, in a political climate where they will be lucky to get to 50% of the vote, their plan is to alienate minority groups so that they overwhelmingly vote for the other side? Ok, the Muslim population isn’t as big as the African American population, or the Latino population, but if you have to do everything possible to scrape your way to 50%+1, why would you piss off even 1% of the population so that they’ll vote overwhelmingly against you?

Do they really think that this kind of stuff will gin up enough support among conservative whites (without a comparably sized backlash among moderate and/or liberal whites)?

They really think this shit will maximize their support among the white population. It ignores of course that not all or even most whites are racist. THey’re in for a rude awakening when this shit backfires on them.

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CleverToad  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:22:36pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else have the “Lumberjack Song” running through your head all day?

Not until you mentioned it! Now I probably will.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:22:53pm

re: #71 KGxvi

So, in a political climate where they will be lucky to get to 50% of the vote, their plan is to alienate minority groups so that they overwhelmingly vote for the other side? Ok, the Muslim population isn’t as big as the African American population, or the Latino population, but if you have to do everything possible to scrape your way to 50%+1, why would you piss off even 1% of the population so that they’ll vote overwhelmingly against you?

Do they really think that this kind of stuff will gin up enough support among conservative whites (without a comparably sized backlash among moderate and/or liberal whites)?

Does Trump think?

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:23:19pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else have the “Lumberjack Song” running through your head all day?

God damn you.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:23:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:24:15pm

re: #77 Kragar

God damn you.

There are worse earworms. Really. Much worse. Trust me.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:25:26pm

People claiming a mention in a WaPo article is the smoking gun:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:25:40pm

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s amazing that the LEADING GOP PRESIDENTIAL candidates can say all this stupid shit and not only does it not hurt their poll numbers (even the opposite in some cases) but their supporters then IMMEDIATELY start DEFENDING said stupid shit no matter what.

I’m almost convinced there’s not a “too far” for these people. Every time I think we’ve got there, we just keep on going further.

I’m convinced that the only thing that sinks these guys are momentary moments of resaon. The Republican base seems eager for a nutjob zealot to be their standard bearer.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:26:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:26:28pm

re: #71 KGxvi

So, in a political climate where they will be lucky to get to 50% of the vote, their plan is to alienate minority groups so that they overwhelmingly vote for the other side? Ok, the Muslim population isn’t as big as the African American population, or the Latino population, but if you have to do everything possible to scrape your way to 50%+1, why would you piss off even 1% of the population so that they’ll vote overwhelmingly against you?

Do they really think that this kind of stuff will gin up enough support among conservative whites (without a comparably sized backlash among moderate and/or liberal whites)?

I think they believe they can prevail just on angry white voters alone, partly because they’re certain their cause is right, but also because in 2010 and 2014, they actually fucking DID.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:26:43pm

Rumors reported in a major newspaper clearly marked alleged, therefore Ben Carson saw the film.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:27:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:27:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:28:38pm

re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White

I think they believe they can prevail just on angry white voters alone, partly because they’re certain their cause is right, but also because in 2010 and 2014, they actually fucking DID.

They’re not going to be able to get away with it forever but it’s entirely possible that they could enough in 2020 to keep the state legislatures and thus redistricting in their hands until 2030. Who knows who the candidates will be then and waht the political landscape will be.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:29:11pm

Whoever was saying yesterday (gdf? sergey?) that people are manufacturing fake memories based on stories & events from the time seems most likely to me. IOW, they’re combining the story of the people who were “allegedly seen celebrating” on rooftops with the Israelis who were detained and the celebrating Palestinians.

From the WaPo article:

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river. […]

washingtonpost.com

Really, “tailgate-style parties on rooftops” is what they saw? What an odd way to describe something. I’ve never heard of a “tailgate-style” rooftop party—can anyone please describe for me what that would look like with no tailgate present?

Also, it simply says “a number of people” were detained and questioned, it says NOTHING about the nationality or ethnicity of said people. Of course, it was also only alleged, never proven. Big difference there.

Again, this leads me to believe people have the reports mixed up/combined. Oh, and BTW I believe yesterday someone here said the celebrations were in Gaza—they were not—they were in East Jerusalem, according to Reuters.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:29:42pm

re: #80 jaunte

People claiming a mention in a WaPo article is the smoking gun:

How did this even become a thing?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:30:18pm

Too much happens because people want to believe something. Even after it’s disproved.

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:30:33pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

There are worse earworms. Really. Much worse. Trust me.

Nathaniel Rateliff & The Night Sweats - S.O.B. (Official)

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:30:44pm

I think I may have found what Trump and Carson are talking about….

RBS

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:30:44pm

re: #89 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Rumors reported in a NEWS paper in the heated aftermath later become false memories of actual news events.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:31:53pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

I have to say, I think this is far too generous to Carson and Trump. I believe they’re deliberately lying about this. These guys aren’t the “false memory” type — they’re outright liars exploiting a degraded, propagandized Republican base for political gain. They know exactly what they’re doing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:32:20pm

re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White

I think they believe they can prevail just on angry white voters alone, partly because they’re certain their cause is right, but also because in 2010 and 2014, they actually fucking DID.

They live in a universe separate and apart from our own. They think the country is falling apart, because the rightwing media they are cocooned in tells them unemployment is high, inflation is skyrocketing, millions of Hispanics and thousands of terrorists are crossing an undefended border, businesses are being chocked to death by regulation and Obama green-lighted an Iranian bomb. Is it any wonder they are confident of victory in 2016?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:32:33pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

They’re not going to be able to get away with it forever but it’s entirely possible that they could enough in 2020 to keep the state legislatures and thus redistricting in their hands until 2030. Who knows who the candidates will be then and waht the political landscape will be.

2010 was a non-Presidential year, plus the first midterm election since a black guy got elected, and a bunch of Obama voters either figured they had done all they needed to, OR they were mad they didn’t get a goddam pony, so they stayed home.

2020 is a Presidential year. That makes such a sweep unlikely. But we will be years fighting our way back from 2010.

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nines09  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:32:37pm

re: #7 lawhawk

Repeated from below:

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There are reports that were never verified/corroborated that people were partying/celebrating 9/11.

There are no confirmed reports, let alone photographic or video evidence showing people in Jersey City or Paterson partying or celebrating the 9/11 attacks.

None.

Considering all the video/photos shot in the NYC metro area in the hours and days after the attacks, that there isn’t a single image, let alone confirmed report shows just how nonsensical Trump’s statements were.

And Carson just dives headlong into a fact-challenged statement that he too saw the same video that doesn’t exist?

Who are these two nitwits getting their advise from ? Carly Fiorina who swears that she saw video that doesn’t exist either?

IRRELEVANT!!!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:32:37pm
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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:32:41pm

re: #91 Kragar

So as if by magic, someone in an adjoining office just cranked up “Amie”
en.wikipedia.org

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gocart mozart  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:33:20pm
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mr.fusion  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:33:45pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

They know exactly what they’re doing.

Trump does….Carson, I’m not so sure about. I don’t think he’s pandering to an uninformed base, I think he IS the uninformed base

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:33:45pm

re: #96 Blind Frog Belly White

2010 was a non-Presidential year, plus the first midterm election since a black guy got elected, and a bunch of Obama voters either figured they had done all they needed to, OR they were mad they didn’t get a goddam pony, so they stayed home.

2020 is a Presidential year. That makes such a sweep unlikely. But we will be years fighting our way back from 2010.

I have to admit it here. I did not vote in 2010. I would have but I was a little confused on how to vote from the campus and I never seriously pursued it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:33:52pm

re: #91 Kragar

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The Younger Boy especially hates it when I start singing ‘Whistling In The Dark’ from They Might Be Giants.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:34:23pm

Another day, another wingnut outrage. I know it’s only Monday, but can somebody remind me what the outrage was last week?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:34:49pm
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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:35:14pm

re: #104 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

can somebody remind me what the outrage was last week?

/

Obama Won’t Lead/Is A Dictator

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:35:47pm

re: #104 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another day, another wingnut outrage. I know it’s only Monday, but can somebody remind me what the outrage was last week?

/

Wait, I remember now, the Syrian refugees and GOP governors barring them from their states

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b.d.  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:36:27pm

re: #104 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Another day, another wingnut outrage. I know it’s only Monday, but can somebody remind me what the outrage was last week?

/

Wrong color coffee cups

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:36:57pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:37:02pm

re: #100 gocart mozart

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Nah. A pro never laughs at a client. Not until they leave at least.

RBS

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nines09  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:37:10pm

Make It Rain

This will run around in your head….In a good way.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:37:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:37:29pm

re: #108 b.d.

Wrong color coffee cups

The color was fine. It was the absence of pagan symbols that made SOME Christians feel slighted.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:37:39pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

Always with the Hell Revenge fantasies

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:37:53pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

I have to say, I think this is far too generous to Carson and Trump. I believe they’re deliberately lying about this. These guys aren’t the “false memory” type — they’re outright liars exploiting a degraded, propagandized Republican base for political gain. They know exactly what they’re doing.

Oh I agree. Even if Trump was originally mistaken due to a false memory, he should’ve never made such an inflammatory claim without checking his facts first, but as we all know facts don’t matter to these guys. That he’s now doubling down on it and people are buying into it—not to mention the fact that Dr. Opportunist is also jumping on the bandwagon—it will soon become carved-in-stone fact for a certain portion of the population.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:38:16pm

re: #101 mr.fusion

Trump does….Carson, I’m not so sure about. I don’t think he’s pandering to an uninformed base, I think he IS the uninformed base

I watch the video above of Carson saying he “saw the film,” and I see a guy who’s consciously lying.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:39:11pm

re: #114 jaunte

Always with the Hell Revenge fantasies

That’s a problem with being an atheist - the absence of the Big Reveal at the end, so nobody knows you were right all along.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:40:20pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

I watch the video above of Carson saying he “saw the film,” and I see a guy who’s consciously lying.

I think Carson is just as craven as Trump is if not more so.

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:40:53pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:41:25pm

re: #95 Big Beautiful Door

They live in a universe separate and apart from our own. They think the country is falling apart, because the rightwing media they are cocooned in tells them unemployment is high, inflation is skyrocketing, millions of Hispanics and thousands of terrorists are crossing an undefended border, businesses are being chocked to death by regulation and Obama green-lighted an Iranian bomb. Is it any wonder they are confident of victory in 2016?

Such a wretched world they imagine they live in. How the fuck would you get out of bed in the morning?

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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:41:26pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

Here is a clue-How can anyone but a pilot or helicopter passenger even see a rooftop party? If you had film, how could you tell what the heck was being said or done? Not too many people bring protest signs to a rooftop. Mostly because hardly anyone could see what the heck ya had on there… It just makes no sense at all.

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lawhawk  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:41:37pm

Not just widely disputed CNN. It’s flat out BS. It didn’t happen. No proof. Nothing. Invented out of thin air.

And it ignores the Gish Gallop Trump’s doing to spin away from the last lie/smear regarding what he’d do with a Muslim database.

Everything Trump says is suspect.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:41:56pm

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

The color was fine. It was the absence of pagan symbols that made SOME Christians feel slighted.

It was actually only one guy who created the fake outrage & collected the grift he was after.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:42:43pm

re: #121 Great White Snark

Here is a clue-How can anyone but a pilot or helicopter passenger even see a rooftop party? If you had film, how could you tell what the heck was being said or done? Not too many people bring protest signs to a rooftop. Mostly because hardly anyone could see what the heck ya had on there… It just makes no sense at all.

Live in a taller building?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:43:14pm

re: #89 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

How did this even become a thing?

Yet the new article from WaPo debunking this whole thing makes them a lying commie liberal news rag!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:43:35pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

Live in a taller building?

Be up hill

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:44:49pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

It was actually only one guy who created the fake outrage & collected the grift he was after.

To their credit, the portion of Conservative Christians who took the bait was smaller than the portion that buy into the ‘War On Christmas’ generally. But there were some.

TO me, though, the funniest thing was bitching about the absence of pagan symbology being an insult to Christians.

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Targetpractice  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:45:20pm

re: #122 lawhawk

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Not just widely disputed CNN. It’s flat out BS. It didn’t happen. No proof. Nothing. Invented out of thin air.

And it ignores the Gish Gallop Trump’s doing to spin away from the last lie/smear regarding what he’d do with a Muslim database.

Everything Trump says is suspect.

It’s “widely disputed,” just as his retweet of a race-baiting meme was “controversial.” The media simply does not have it in them to kill the golden goose.

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:47:27pm
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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:47:41pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

With a convenient camera crew and parabolic microphones I suppose too.

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:49:02pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:49:12pm

re: #125 GlutenFreeJesus

Yet the new article from WaPo debunking this whole thing makes them a lying commie liberal news rag!

Heads I win, tails you lose.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:49:49pm

re: #121 Great White Snark

Here is a clue-How can anyone but a pilot or helicopter passenger even see a rooftop party? If you had film, how could you tell what the heck was being said or done? Not too many people bring protest signs to a rooftop. Mostly because hardly anyone could see what the heck ya had on there… It just makes no sense at all.

Well you can see rooftops if you’re in a higher building. It’s very crowded in Jersey City so buildings are close together (there are approximately 1/4 million people jammed into 21 square miles). That said, you’re correct that it in most cases would be difficult to see what was being done without binoculars, and it would be virtually impossible to hear what was being said unless people were screaming at the top of their lungs.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:50:21pm

re: #122 lawhawk

Not just widely disputed CNN. It’s flat out BS. It didn’t happen. No proof. Nothing. Invented out of thin air.

And it ignores the Gish Gallop Trump’s doing to spin away from the last lie/smear regarding what he’d do with a Muslim database.

Everything Trump says is suspect.

Well, look, some people say they saw thousands cheering in a video and some say the video doesn’t exist and that there were no crowds cheering. Let’s debate both sides.

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:50:33pm

Ben is succumbing to fear—-of walking alone while male on a feminist-dominated college campus.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:51:51pm

The lies are coming so fast it’s hard to keep up.

“Cruz also says 77 percent of the refugees “pouring into Europe right now” are young males. That’s inaccurate and misleading. There are more than 4.2 million refugees and only about 850,000 fled to Europe (62 percent of whom are men). A U.N. spokesman says those referred to the U.S. would be among those remaining in the Middle East, such as in Turkey and Jordan, and those refugees are largely women and children.”

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:55:25pm
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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:56:02pm

re: #136 jaunte

So you’re saying a 5 year old boy isn’t a young male?
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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:56:13pm

re: #133 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I mean sure possible but strains all probability especially by way of on video or film. I can see roofs from where I am now, but I have no idea what that guy with the tools is fixing or what he might be saying. They make it sound like something easily visible, like common sight or something. Rather gullibility dependent AFAIK.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:56:47pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

I watch the video above of Carson saying he “saw the film,” and I see a guy who’s consciously lying.

To me it’s like the kid who has no idea what the other kids are talking about but doesn’t want to be left out so he makes shit up on the spot.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:56:48pm

re: #138 Kragar

It’s only a matter of time!!!

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:58:00pm
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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:58:01pm

E gad, it’s getting beyond desperate. I saw the story earlier about refugees sewing their lips shut, but was waiting to hear it from a mainstream source. The other article (don’t remember where maybe Buzzfeed or some such site) showed a refugee who was being restrained & carried after attempting to slit his wrists.

Warning photos not for the squeamish: bbc.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 12:59:07pm

a brief conversation with a friend in England:

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:00:41pm

re: #49 Blind Frog Belly White

And the followers of BeelzeBob.

Beelzaboot for those nord of the border.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:01:42pm

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

Ben is succumbing to fear—-of walking alone while male on a feminist-dominated college campus.

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ISIS most definitely cares about people being fearful. That’s the entire point of terrorism asswad.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:02:17pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

a brief conversation with a friend in England:

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She’s talking about the BUF isn’t she?

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:03:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:03:54pm

re: #148 Kragar

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It’s almost like being a pathetic dickhead has consequences.

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Targetpractice  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:04:32pm

re: #142 Kragar

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*sigh* Remember when that joke would be for Duke Nukem Forever?

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:05:04pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:05:18pm

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

Things ISIS cares about:
✓Killing Westerners
✓Killing more Westerners
✓Killing non-Westerners who disagree
✗ Westerners “succumbing to fear”

Why do we call them “Terrorists” then?

It’s almost like Benny forgot the entire point of Terrorism is to use violence and the threat of violence against civilian populations to achieve a political aim.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:05:26pm

re: #151 Kragar

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What’s that even mean?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:05:51pm

re: #151 Kragar

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I thought he was a One-Trick Show?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:06:16pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

Why do we call them “Terrorists” then?

It’s almost like Benny forgot the entire point of Terrorism is to use violence and the threat of violence against civilian populations to achieve a political aim.

Well, Benny is more afraid of girls than he is of ISIS.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:06:35pm

re: #151 Kragar

Ben Carson as Emily Litella.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:06:43pm

re: #148 Kragar

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He’s also a raging wingnut and homophobe from the e-mails too.

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Targetpractice  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:07:57pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

Why do we call them “Terrorists” then?

It’s almost like Benny forgot the entire point of Terrorism is to use violence and the threat of violence against civilian populations to achieve a political aim.

He also forgot all the times during the previous decade when wingnuts would mean a call for change with “If we do this, the terrorists win!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:09:04pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

He also forgot all the times during the previous decade when wingnuts would mean a call for change with “If we do this, the terrorists win!”

I kind of think he wasn’t toilet-trained during that decade. Maybe by the end he was wearing pullups.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:09:22pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

He also forgot all the times during the previous decade when wingnuts would mean a call for change with “If we do this, the terrorists win!”

It’s funny how that changes huh.

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Tigger2  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:09:44pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

They really think this shit will maximize their support among the white population. It ignores of course that not all or even most whites are racist. THey’re in for a rude awakening when this shit backfires on them.

I have a mixed great niece and nephew any racist bone i had in my body left me when they were born and I got to hold them, I’m sure that has happened to families all over the country. This is something Trump and the other racebaters don’t seem to understand.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:09:49pm

re: #159 The Vicious Babushka

I kind of think he wasn’t toilet-trained during that decade. Maybe by the end he was wearing pullups.

How do we know he still isn’t potty trained or still wearing pull ups.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:11:33pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

How do we know he still isn’t potty trained or still wearing pull ups.

Good point.

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wrenchwench  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:12:00pm

Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson says U.S. schools, supermarkets, car repair shops and “any place where radicalization is going on” should be monitored in addition to mosques in light of terrorist threats posed by the Islamic State group.

The retired neurosurgeon called for increased surveillance at a campaign stop about an hour west of Las Vegas on Monday.

He even wants his own campaign stops monitored???

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Timothy Watson  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:12:59pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

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He even wants his own campaign stops monitored???

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Yes, we must be weary of the Cult of Chevrolet.

*ducks from the Chevy fans*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:13:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:13:58pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

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He even wants his own campaign stops monitored???

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:14:23pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

E gad, it’s getting beyond desperate. I saw the story earlier about refugees sewing their lips shut, but was waiting to hear it from a mainstream source. The other article (don’t remember where maybe Buzzfeed or some such site) showed a refugee who was being restrained & carried after attempting to slit his wrists.

Warning photos not for the squeamish: bbc.com

ThinkProgress has the mouths sewn shut story

Click to Reveal
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:14:51pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

He also forgot all the times during the previous decade when wingnuts would mean a call for change with “If we do this, the terrorists win!”

The other thing is, if all ISIS wanted to do was KILL those people, a bullet to the head is WAY simpler, neater, and quicker than decapitation. And if you just want to kill people, why publish videos of people being killed?

ISIS has been HIGHLY effective at achieving their goal of terrorizing the West, and how many Westerners have they actually killed? Probably under 300, possibly under 200. And yet we have Presidential candidates of one of the major parties demanding we cut off refugees fleeing ISIS, and that we go all in on the ‘Clash of Civilizations’ thing.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:15:02pm

re: #19 lawhawk

And that’s the point where the block button comes out. If you cite to white supremacist/nationalist sites? You’re done. Toast. Blocked.

But this is the Trump base - and their proclivities are to go to sites that reinforce their worldview.

That’s not just Trump’s problem - it’s the GOP. This is their base. They are going down the rabbit hole and it’s not a good place for the nation.

Good ol’ Rod Dreher has linked to Steve Sailer and VDARE more than once.

Here is today’s bucket of tasty wingnut tears (Charles…you may want to go over to AmCon and see his crap for yourself. The religious right establishment is starting to take Rod seriously and he is one of the loudest anti-GLBT voices out there)

This is the America that the Social Justice Warriors and their allies in the Establishment (especially media and academia) have created: a Balkanized polity where nobody trusts anybody who is not like them.

You would have to be an absolute fool, or in a position not to care, to be a white person who voiced a non-left opinion about race, sex, gender, or homosexuality these days. Last month, I communicated with a nationally prominent liberal professor who teaches at a prestigious institution, who said that he is extremely careful what he dares to say in class and anywhere on campus, for fear that some student, somewhere, will consider it a microaggression, and file charges against him. Even groundless charges that are ultimately dismissed can consume a professor’s life, and severely damage his career. In a flash this fall, we have seen university after university taken over by fanatics who despise freedom of speech and thought — the core of a university education — and who have learned that the power elite within those communities are paper tigers who can be intimidated into giving them whatever they demand, or close to it.

It has not yet occurred to these weak and unprincipled leaders that the protesters possess the dead-end politics of Ta-Nehisi Coates: construing the problem in such a way as to deny the possibility of any kind of solution. As I pointed out in my blog post on the book, Coates holds that the only reasonable path for black people in America is to quit believing in Dr. King’s vision (“The changes have awarded me a rapture that comes only when you can no longer be lied to, when you have rejected the Dream”). Actually, I’m probably wrong about that: they almost certainly agree with Coates’s politics. Coates just won the National Book Award, a sure sign that his views have been embraced by the Establishment.

White Christian grievance. Of course, Rod also said this last week about the black tape put over pictures at Harvard:

The images are very offensive, for sure, but I don’t for one second believe that this was a true hate crime. I would bet my next paycheck that it was a hoax carried about by SJW provocateurs within the school who have been mounting a campaign against Harvard Law.

Alex Jones wants to know more.

But, Rod thinks the biggest problem today is that we are not going to church enough…and that means, of course…the same church!

This is why denatured, rationalized, happy-clappy Christianity common to our time — both Catholic and Protestant — cannot survive. Felt banners will serve as its burial shroud. In Moralistic Therapeutic Deism, there’s no there there. Similarly, this is why a society built on secularism and individualism, without any meaningful religious glue holding the people together, cannot endure.

If the West is going to endure, it will have to return to its ancestral faith, Christianity, and do so in a serious, sustained way. I believe that it will, but not soon. The future of the West depends on the faithful, on those who really live the religious life, not just play at it. I believe that Orthodoxy will have a role to play in this revival. But the revival will come, one way or another.

The past couple of months, Rod has been extolling a particularly vile book from France called “The Camp of the Saints”. Written in the 70’s (I believe) the book describes a future France that has fallen under shariah law because of the degraded moral condition of the French polity. Basically, the Turner Diaries for France. Rod loves it loves it loves it! Also, he gets to rail about how civilization took a wrong turn after the 30 years War and tried out that whole Enlightenment separation of church and state thing.

This is because the Enlightenment has brought us to the dead-end life of shopping and screwing and the misery of individual sovereignty at which François has arrived….This is not to say that the Enlightenment was all bad, obviously, but only that it has taken us as far as it can, and is now a destructive force, a force that produces people who do not know how to submit to anything beyond their own disordered appetites, including rage.

UPDATE: Forgot to add that in our interview, Vodolazkin referenced a perestroika-era film, Repentance, that he described as relevant to our own time. It’s a film about the Soviet destruction of culture, and its aftermath. In the final scene, an old lady asks a woman standing in a window if the road she is on will take her to the church. No, says the woman.

“What good is a road if it doesn’t lead to church?” says the old woman, and walks on.

Yes. We have been walking this Enlightenment road for far too long, and it has us now in a dark wood.

Rod’s “Benedict Option” (which seems to mean anything and all things to religious right folks…like an ink blot test) is getting serious consideration in those circles. The guy pushing it thinks we were better off culturally in 1650 and thinks we need to rebuild that. Oh…and being a white person is now a major burden because those pesky social justice kids call him names.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:15:44pm

re: #165 Timothy Watson

Yes, we must be weary of the Cult of Chevrolet.

*ducks from the Chevy fans*

Friends don’t let friends drive Chevys!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:15:53pm

gaahhh

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:15:56pm

Triple Candidate Fact-Check:

“…Trump, Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina repeatedly have claimed that the Obama administration plans to accept anywhere from 100,000 to 250,000 Syrian refugees. That’s false. By law, the administration can admit slightly more than 10,000 in fiscal year 2016, and no refugee commitments can be made beyond that.”
factcheck.org

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:16:39pm

I am honestly tired of conservative heterosexual white Christian males bitching about how they can’t do this and they can’t do that anymore. Society has gotten better not worse. These guys are so threatened by anyone not like them whether it’s a diferent gender, different religion, race, or sexual orientation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:17:01pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaahhh

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Fuckwads.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:17:05pm

Now getting a flood of End Times idiots responding to Joel Rosenberg.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:17:33pm

re: #173 jaunte

Triple Candidate Fact-Check:

Fuck it, why not just say Obama’s going to personally invite the head of Daesh to stay as a guest o the WHite House.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:17:59pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

I am honestly tired of conservative heterosexual white Christian males bitching about how they can’t do this and they can’t do that anymore. Society has gotten better not worse. These guys are so threatened by anyone not like them whether it’s a diferent gender, different religion, race, or sexual orientation.

See my above post.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:18:06pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Now getting a flood of End Times idiots responding to Joel Rosenberg.

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These people are creepy. They say they’re praying for you but they’re actually damning you to hell.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:19:25pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
DUMB GUN-FUCKERS CO-OPTING THE HOLOCAUST. GO FUCK YOURSELVES FOOLS.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:20:12pm

re: #178 Aunty Entity Dragon

See my above post.

Oh, I saw it, your post about Rod made me think about how these guys just can’t accept they’re living in 21st century America where Muslims, trans-gendered folks, non-religious people are treated as equals.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:20:29pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Fuck it, why not just say Obama’s going to personally invite the head of Daesh to stay as a guest o the WHite House.

Silly libtard! Obummer IS the leader of ISIS and he plans our extermination and the takeover by UN black helicopters and terrorists. You can see it all in the link on twitter. You are all libtard morans and we will rise up and fight you because we have all the guns and you libtards hate guns hurr hurr hurr.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:21:10pm

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

With guns, we might be the Polish Army.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:21:23pm

re: #180 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
DUMB GUN-FUCKERS CO-OPTING THE HOLOCAUST. GO FUCK YOURSELVES FOOLS.

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Stop co-opting the Holocaust, assholes when you’re the ones who actually want to scapegoat people based on religion. No one is trying to take your stupid guns either, we just want sensible laws regarding them which shouldn’t be too much to fucking ask in a time we’re seeing tons of gun violence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:21:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:22:17pm
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A Mom Anon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:22:21pm

re: #143 CuriousLurker

That’s just. I don’t know what words I could use that even fit those pictures. Fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:22:34pm

re: #183 jaunte

With guns, we might be the Polish Army.

I’d like to point out that any occupying force is going to restrict guns to the civilians. Not every occupying force turns out to be the Nazis. I imagine we didn’t exactly allow the Germans when we occupied them to have many guns either.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:23:19pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

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No Peace For The Wicked

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:23:32pm

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:23:42pm

re: #173 jaunte

Triple Candidate Fact-Check:

Obummer doesn’t care about the law and we can’t keep the Mexicans out who are invading our country to set up a caliphate and…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:24:14pm

re: #183 jaunte

With guns, we might be the Polish Army.

Well except the Polish Army did not contain ranks of women and children.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:24:46pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

The concept the NRA and friends are pushing that rifles and handguns are needed so we can revolt against government (police and military forces) is objectively stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:24:54pm

It’s actually interesting seeing how two friends, both vets have on these type situations. One no doubt would be welcomed if he ever joined LGF and the other has views that we often see expressed through the idiots.

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wrenchwench  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:25:04pm

[…]

Castillo said the federal government is pursuing alien smuggling charges against both of the Mexican nationals who were caught with the group of five Pakistanis and an Afghani.

As for the migrants, the Border Patrol said last week that they had their identities checked against “numerous” law enforcement and national security-related databases. “Records checks revealed no derogatory information about the individuals,” the agency said.

Castillo said guides have the advantage because the undocumented migrants they are smuggling usually have no idea where they are, and he noted cases in which guides have robbed, raped and assaulted the people they are smuggling into the United States. Unfortunately, he said, the crimes rarely reported unless the undocumented migrants happen to get caught.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:25:47pm

re: #193 jaunte

The concept the NRA and friends are pushing that rifles and handguns are needed so we can revolt against government (police and military forces) is objectively stupid.

And also we should obey the police and authorities always except when tyranny and we can overthrow government.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:26:28pm

re: #193 jaunte

The concept the NRA and friends are pushing that rifles and handguns are needed so we can revolt against government (police and military forces) is objectively stupid.

What the NRA does is to try to create fear. Of course, the NRA’s not actually anti-government. Wayne LaPierre loves to wine and dine with many Republicans. He’s not some rebel. He’s a cynical opportunist jackass.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:26:55pm

re: #196 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

And also we should obey the police and authorities always except when tyranny and we can overthrow government.

/

The federal government is like Hitler but always obey the police. //

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nkdee  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:27:07pm

Ben and Donald, It is VERY easy to put this to rest. Produce the footage. Easy peasy!

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:27:48pm

re: #135 The Vicious Babushka

Ben is succumbing to fear—-of walking alone while male on a feminist-dominated college campus.

I’m guessing he’s always been afraid of getting beaten up by little girls.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:28:39pm
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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:29:17pm

re: #193 jaunte

The concept the NRA and friends are pushing that rifles and handguns are needed so we can revolt against government (police and military forces) is objectively stupid.

Unless you take the threat of fascism & violent trumhumper behavior from Trump seriously?

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A Mom Anon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:29:21pm

re: #201 Charles Johnson

YES!!!! MooohaHAHAHAHA……

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wrenchwench  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:29:25pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:30:36pm

next up:

the fact that the supposed footage can’t be produced merely shows you how the politically correct secularist sharia conspiracy shamefully manipulates the media

count on it

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:30:55pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

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Of course no one in the GOP will say anything just like few if any said anything about PAt Robertson’s comments following 9/11. Why because they agree with this twisted shit.

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:31:00pm

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

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Sure that guy / gal isn’t a Poe? Just from that image, he / she looks extremely unhinged and hilarious, even for the far right.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:31:11pm

re: #193 jaunte

The concept the NRA and friends are pushing that rifles and handguns are needed so we can revolt against government (police and military forces) is objectively stupid.

It does have historical precedent in that there are numerous quotes from various founders to that very effect. Many of the framers of the constitution were against having a standing army at all because of the unsavory reputation so many of them had in history. Also, the meme of the virtuous citizen soldier standing between his home and ‘war’s desolation’ had a powerful myth making effect, even though the militia really only won a single major battle in the Revolution (King’s Mountain, where two of my own ancestors fought)

In reality there is scarce chance that the army could ever be effectively deployed against the American populace at large. Our society has never worked in such a way that it would be feasible.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:31:49pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

But here is my Paris avi and if you don’t have a Paris avi you are a sharia-law-loving Obamabot terrorist.

//

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Timothy Watson  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:32:08pm

re: #199 nkdee

Ben and Donald, It is VERY easy to put this to rest. Produce the footage. Easy peasy!

Soros had the news agencies destroy it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:32:15pm

re: #205 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

next up:

the fact that the supposed footage can’t be produced merely shows you how the politically correct secularist sharia conspiracy shamefully manipulates the media

count on it

Suppressing all the video proof was the very first thing Obama did when he took office…on DAY ONE!!!11!!

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CriticalDragon1177  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:33:20pm

Feel the “love”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:33:59pm

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

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Wouldn’t normally associate “Christian” with “f ck”, but you never know these days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:34:11pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:34:15pm

If we don’t’ have our gunz, the turkeists will win

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TedStriker  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:34:22pm

re: #6 The Vicious Babushka

Carly will say she saw it too, right before she saw the video of a full-term babby being delivered & harvested.

Right along with the Michelle Obama “whitey” tape.

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:34:38pm

re: #208 Aunty Entity Dragon

Given the modern discrepancy between U.S. military power and militia wankers, I just can’t take the idea seriously.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:34:59pm

re: #207 CriticalDragon1177

Sure that guy / gal isn’t a Poe? Just from that image, he / she looks extremely unhinged and hilarious, even for the far right.

I have come to the conclusion that it is not possible to Poe #tcot.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:35:53pm

re: #212 CriticalDragon1177

Feel the “love”

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It’s like they don’t even care they sound like NAzis until you point out that is exactly what they sound like. But yeah liberalism= fascism. //

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:36:30pm

re: #207 CriticalDragon1177

As a Christian I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.

…and the american way

please note: jesus of nazareth and superman were not the same person

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:38:25pm

re: #217 jaunte

Given the modern discrepancy between U.S. military power and militia wankers, I just can’t take the idea seriously.

I have a dive buddy, used to be Air Force Forward Controller. He said that they had a tablet type device they used. Imagine using google earth, zooming in to individual building level, and then designating a target such as “north east corner of this building” by just tapping it. He could also laser designate it. It all went up to a central system and could be assigned to any aircraft in the area.

And that’s just the stuff he could tell me about.

RBS

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:38:45pm

As a Christian I have the duty

some christians interpret the bible in such a way that god is indistinguishable from zeus

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:39:13pm

re: #221 Reality Based Steve

But Ted Nugent is going to hide in the woods.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:39:27pm

re: #217 jaunte

Given the modern discrepancy between U.S. military power and militia wankers, I just can’t take the idea seriously.

Actually, the US military has rather poor track record with armed insurgencies. Also, in the event of a major conflict at home, you could expect up to a third of your troops would refuse to fight or desert to the other side (no link. This was according to a study I learned about in the early 90s that was commissioned by the Army when the anti Clinton militia movement started getting traction. The study supposedly concluded that some combat units may become combat ineffective due to attrition before a shot was even fired) .

Sure, the idiot over-weight wannabes would die quickly. They did in Iraq also. Then, the real trouble begins when the skilled and smart folks in the insurgency begin hitting back.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:39:59pm

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

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That looks like it might be a parody account… checked some of the tweets and it looks like sarcasm.

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TedStriker  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:40:20pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Fuck it, why not just say Obama’s going to personally invite the head of Daesh to stay as a guest o the WHite House.

In the Lincoln Bedroom.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:40:24pm

re: #70 Barefoot Grin

Well, I suppose I will now.
Thanks Obama!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:40:37pm

I don’t know how you can boast about how patriotic you are yet have such cynicism in your government that you think they’re Nazi Germany 2.0 and that’s why you need tons of gun to stockpoile.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:40:56pm

re: #217 jaunte

Given the modern discrepancy between U.S. military power and militia wankers, I just can’t take the idea seriously.

WULVEREEEENZZZ!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:41:09pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

That looks like it might be a parody account… checked some of the tweets and it looks like sarcasm.

Not something I would want to follow. It’s impossible to spoof #tcot, these guys are so batshit crazy that a parody account is just lame.

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Franklin  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:41:28pm

re: #223 jaunte

But Ted Nugent is going to hide in the woods.

Was watching That 70’s Show the other day when they go to the Ted Nugent concert. My wife is like: “Who’s that?”. I said, “Just some asshole”.

The best part is that Fez and Hyde make counterfeit shirts to sell at the concert but Fez had them printed as “Tad Nugent”. So, TAKE THAT TAD!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:41:59pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:42:05pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I don’t know how you can boast about how patriotic you are yet have such cynicism in your government that you think they’re Nazi Germany 2.0 and that’s why you need tons of gun to stockpoile.

But they are all supporters of Ted Cruz, who is even more extreme right-wing than Trump, and smart enough to not say dumb shit in public.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:42:37pm

re: #233 The Vicious Babushka

But they are all supporters of Ted Cruz, who is even more extreme right-wing than Trump, and smart enough to not say dumb shit in public.

Right.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:43:18pm

re: #222 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

As a Christian I have the duty

some christians interpret the bible in such a way that god is indistinguishable from zeus

Long grey hair… Check
Hurls Lightning… Check
Has Mortal Son… Check
Mortal Son Betrayed by Someone He Trusted… Check
Mortal Son Dies… Check
Son Resurrected … Check
Son Deified… Check
Historically True… No Check

RBS

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Dr. Matt  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:43:46pm

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

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Bald eagle, US flag, and the word “Patriot” in their handle….guaranteed he’s going to be the asshole cousin at Thanksgiving this year.

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Franklin  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:45:01pm

re: #236 Dr. Matt

Bald eagle, US flag, and the word “Patriot” in their handle….guaranteed he’s going to be the asshole cousin at Thanksgiving this year.

Trick question! At his Thanksgiving dinner, they are all assholes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:45:49pm

re: #222 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

As a Christian I have the duty

some christians interpret the bible in such a way that god is indistinguishable from zeus

When he was single digit years old, the Older Boy was asked by a Christian friend, “Don’t you know about Jesus?”

He responded, “Isn’t he the son of Zeus?”

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Dr. Matt  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:46:37pm

A disco pie for The Vicious Babushka:

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:46:37pm

“My AR-15 will protect me from government tyranny!!!”

Oh really?

Gunhumpers always get upset when I point out they’ll be shooting US troops and police officers when they “fight tyranny”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:48:03pm

re: #240 Kragar

“My AR-15 will protect me from government tyranny!!!”

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Gunhumpers always get upset when I point out they’ll be shooting US troops and police officers when they “fight tyranny”.

In their imaginary WOLVEREENS!!11!! scenario it’s the U.N. Blue Helmets.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:49:56pm

re: #240 Kragar

“My AR-15 will protect me from government tyranny!!!”

.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:50:08pm

re: #240 Kragar

And they still don’t grasp the fact that they aren’t the only civilians who have guns.

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:50:16pm

re: #241 The Vicious Babushka

In their imaginary WOLVEREENS!!11!! scenario it’s the U.N. Blue Helmets.

“AVENGE ME!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:50:41pm

re: #242 Dr. Matt

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That bomber appears to be sucking bombs up into its fuselage.

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Belafon  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:51:34pm

re: #240 Kragar

“My AR-15 will protect me from government tyranny!!!”

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Gunhumpers always get upset when I point out they’ll be shooting US troops and police officers when they “fight tyranny”.

One of the things that makes the military’s job in the ME hard is we want to minimize collateral damage. Why would a dictator, who only cares about controlling the populace, care about collateral damage in a military takeover? If he’s going to use the military, I’m pretty sure a few sacrifices will be acceptable.

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sagehen  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:51:37pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh

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So supporting other candidates, and running ads against the candidate you oppose, is unfair treatment?

Huh. He really is new to politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:52:08pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:53:39pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Surrendering sovereignty to the UN”? Jeezly H. Crow, that’s gotta be some of the stupidest nonsense I’ve ever heard. If only there weren’t a lot of stupid people primed to believe it.

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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:54:41pm

re: #88 CuriousLurker

I do maintain that the most likely explanation for these rumors are the contemporary reports about 5 “dancing Israelis” on the rooftop of their firm, Urban Moving Systems. They were identified as Palestinians/middle-eastern men in some early reports.

This is almost certainly the source of that WaPo article, and the story later grew in the “Muslim” direction.

(Note that there is an anti-Semitic theory around these Israelis that they knew about 9/11 in advance, which is of course bollocks. Their erratic behavior is however confirmed by both witnesses and their own photos.)

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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:55:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:57:18pm

re: #251 Kragar

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Shape of the Earth - opinions differ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:57:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:58:28pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You fuckwads have been saying this shit for years. Stop lyign to gun owners and actually tell them the fucking truth for once.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 1:59:18pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is why my wife and I have separate drawers for our drawers

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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:00:55pm

re: #250 Nyet

It’s the lies people want to be true that last.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:03:42pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

This was the wingnut wacko’s favorite paranoid talking point before FEMA DEATH CAMP TRAILERS!

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makeitstop  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:04:24pm

re: #249 Blind Frog Belly White

“Surrendering sovereignty to the UN”? Jeezly H. Crow, that’s gotta be some of the stupidest nonsense I’ve ever heard. If only there weren’t a lot of stupid people primed to believe it.

An old hit, by an obscure outfit called the John Birch Society.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:06:42pm

re: #258 makeitstop

An old hit, by an obscure outfit called the John Birch Society.

Covered by many other artist over the years.

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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:07:53pm

re: #256 Great White Snark

We have a proverb in Russian: u strakha glaza veliki (fear has huge eyes).

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:08:31pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

How are they going to beat the big, bad ISIS when they’re skeered of Teh Wimmens!
Benny the Bedwetter==>

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jaunte  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:08:56pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz says the US is “one justice away” from an end to gun rights and surrendering sovereignty to the UN.

Ted Cruz, up and coming young fascist, letting us all know who will “stab us in the back” and let in the exterior threat.

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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:09:04pm

re: #260 Nyet

We have a proverb in Russian: u strakha glaza veliki (fear has huge eyes).

Wow that’s really apt today.

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iossarian  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:09:08pm

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

This is why my wife and I have separate drawers for our drawers

That’s nothing: my wife and I have separate closets for our sexual hangups!

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:09:21pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

I once had a wingnut tell me that he believed an anonymous outrage email about Social Security over the actual Social Security Administration’s debunking of that specific email.

How do you deal with such willful ignorance?

I work for the evil and pernicious FDA. I deal with this all the time: food additives; aspartame, MSG; genetic modification, MonSatan will kill us all. The list is endless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:10:30pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Suppressing all the video proof was the very first thing Obama did when he took office…on DAY ONE!!!11!!

BECAUSE HE APPEARS IN IT!!!!!

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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:16:21pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:17:53pm

This was retweeted by Kat Chow:

That’s the last joke about her name that I’ll make. Sorry.

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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:17:56pm

re: #267 Great White Snark

Sexism spoils it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:19:03pm

re: #240 Kragar

“My AR-15 will protect me from government tyranny!!!”

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Gunhumpers always get upset when I point out they’ll be shooting US troops and police officers when they “fight tyranny”.

Don’t forget all the “do as the cops tell you and there won’t be any problems” people.

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Great White Snark  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:20:19pm

re: #269 Nyet

Good point.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:20:55pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Suppressing all the video proof was the very first thing Obama did when he took office…on DAY ONE!!!11!!

No. He was doing that far before he took office. He had 7 years between 9/11 and his election to do it!!!

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BeachDem  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:21:29pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaahhh

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Huh. I was wondering if there were still any candidates running on the Democratic side. The loons seemed to have sucked all the air from the room with their insane rantings, and the hapless media follow them around, hanging on their every word and calling outright lies “controversial” and “spoken incorrectly.”

Sigh.

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gocart mozart  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:24:08pm
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Kragar  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:26:12pm
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dholmes32  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:29:13pm

re: #123 The Vicious Babushka

It was actually only one guy who created the fake outrage & collected the grift he was after.

That loser didn’t like me giving a running legal commentary on his Facebook (which I am qualified to give), so he blocked me from commenting. Joshua Feuerstein is a chickenshit.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:30:30pm

Not all the stuff that comes up on my FB page is derp. A guy I worked with long ago posted this up…

I would argue Jazz was created in America as an art form also.
RBS

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Mike Lamb  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:39:25pm

re: #277 Reality Based Steve

Not all the stuff that comes up on my FB page is derp. A guy I worked with long ago posted this up…

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I would argue Jazz was created in America as an art form also.
RBS

Dandruff isn’t abstract.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:40:28pm

re: #224 Aunty Entity Dragon

Actually, the US military has rather poor track record with armed insurgencies. Also, in the event of a major conflict at home, you could expect up to a third of your troops would refuse to fight or desert to the other side (no link. This was according to a study I learned about in the early 90s that was commissioned by the Army when the anti Clinton militia movement started getting traction. The study supposedly concluded that some combat units may become combat ineffective due to attrition before a shot was even fired) .

Sure, the idiot over-weight wannabes would die quickly. They did in Iraq also. Then, the real trouble begins when the skilled and smart folks in the insurgency begin hitting back.

It’s not Bill Clinton’s Army:

There are over 1 million military personnel who are on active duty right now. Out of those soldiers, with more than half serving in the US Army, about one-third of them self-identify as a racial minority. The total number of active duty personnel with a racial or ethnic minority status was just over 420,000. This means that the Caucasian population demographic is slightly over-represented in the active duty military right now.

Only 10.5% of officers and 28.2% of enlisted personnel were of a racial or ethnic minority in 1995. In 2012, 21.9% of officers and 31.6% of enlisted personnel were of a minority status.
Hispanics are not listed as a racial minority according to official US military statistics.
11.3%. That’s the total percentage of the active duty force that is of a Hispanic ethnicity.

brandongaille.com

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Charles Johnson  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:40:37pm
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Romantic Heretic  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:43:52pm

re: #57 Great White Snark

These days much of the American People are afraid of their own fucking shadows.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:46:07pm

re: #281 Romantic Heretic

These days much of the American People are afraid of their own fucking shadows.

I’m not afraid of it. I’m angry at it. It makes me look like Homer Simpson.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:46:09pm

re: #281 Romantic Heretic

These days much of the American People are afraid of their own fucking shadows.

And they hug their big guns to prove how brave they are.

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makeitstop  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:48:46pm

re: #277 Reality Based Steve

Not all the stuff that comes up on my FB page is derp. A guy I worked with long ago posted this up…

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I would argue Jazz was created in America as an art form also.
RBS

Blues.

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gocart mozart  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:49:20pm
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iossarian  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:50:12pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

Presidential as ever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:55:28pm

so sorry…I fail to see what’s “unconventional” about the Justin Trudeau sexiness…

(hey, I’m an old lady but I still have appreciative eyes!!!)

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Teukka  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:55:32pm

I’m just gonna leave this here, k?

What Ben Carson Just Said About The Constitution Should Disqualify Him

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:56:00pm

re: #250 Nyet

I do maintain that the most likely explanation for these rumors are the contemporary reports about 5 “dancing Israelis” on the rooftop of their firm, Urban Moving Systems. They were identified as Palestinians/middle-eastern men in some early reports.

This is almost certainly the source of that WaPo article, and the story later grew in the “Muslim” direction.

(Note that there is an anti-Semitic theory around these Israelis that they knew about 9/11 in advance, which is of course bollocks. Their erratic behavior is however confirmed by both witnesses and their own photos.)

I remember that and I also remember the hysteria on FreeRepublic (fueled by batshit nutcakes like Justin Raimondo) about “Israeli spies” posing as “Art Students” in order to gain access to federal buildings.

I was like WTF ART STUDENTS? If a spy wanted to get access to a federal building they would pose as a JANITOR not an “Art Student”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:56:44pm

my shocked face!!! Where did I put my shocked face???

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:57:05pm

re: #275 Kragar

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Cheryl has 3 “Heil Hitlers” in her Twitname.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:57:36pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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so sorry…I fail to see what’s “unconventional” about the Justin Trudeau sexiness…

(hey, I’m an old lady but I still have appreciative eyes!!!)

Seconded—I’m old, not dead!

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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:58:54pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

He looks like Al Bundy on that photo.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:59:02pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

my shocked face!!! Where did I put my shocked face???

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I never saw that thing that I said that I saw. Clear?

RBS

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 23, 2015 • 2:59:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:00:32pm

LOL

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:00:53pm

Looks like Buzzfeed put all the BS together:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:01:15pm

Middle East, Jersey…
So easy to confuse the two.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:01:16pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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so sorry…I fail to see what’s “unconventional” about the Justin Trudeau sexiness…

(hey, I’m an old lady but I still have appreciative eyes!!!)

He is regular, run of the mill, straight hetero sexypants.

Although gay guys would also think he is Teh Hot.

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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:01:42pm

re: #295 goddamnedfrank

He would instantly go down in polls.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:01:51pm

re: #293 Nyet

He looks like Al Bundy on that photo.

GET OUT! Bundy never looked that good, even on his best day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:02:02pm

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

He is regular, run of the mill, straight hetero sexypants.

Although gay guys would also think he is Teh Hot.

And there’s not a single thing wrong with that.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:02:46pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Epic fumble.
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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:02:54pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

Middle East, Jersey…
So easy to confuse the two.

The Israelis were in New Jersey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:06:23pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:07:41pm

Amusing thought: Someone in the RNC is charged with outreach to the Muslim community.

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makeitstop  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:09:04pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

my shocked face!!! Where did I put my shocked face???

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Not intended to be a factual statement.
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Could you imagine the shitstorm if a Democrat walked around in a constant state of fail like The Good Dr. Meat Mechanic does?

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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:11:03pm

re: #297 CuriousLurker

So I see they also cite the Israelis story as a possible cause, even if they, like ADL, seem to downplay their actual behavior, ascribing it to an “antisemitic myth” (which it is not).

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:16:00pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Apparently we all look the same. Kinda like what happens when the cops say someone fit the description of the “black male” suspect they were looking for, huh Ben?

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Jay C  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:17:54pm

re: #306 Decatur Deb

Amusing thought: Someone in the RNC is charged with outreach to the Muslim community.

Probably Pam Geller…..

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CuriousLurker  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:19:24pm

re: #308 Nyet

So I see they also cite the Israelis story as a possible cause, even if they, like ADL, seem to downplay their actual behavior, ascribing it to an “antisemitic myth” (which it is not).

Where did the info about the Israelis come from anyway, directly from the FBI?

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Nyet  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:22:51pm

re: #308 Nyet

So I see they also cite the Israelis story as a possible cause, even if they, like ADL, seem to downplay their actual behavior, ascribing it to an “antisemitic myth” (which it is not).

Just for the record, from a site that debunks truthers:

911myths.com

It has transcripts of the ABC show:

MARIA: And I could see that they were, like, happy, you know? They—they—they weren’t—they didn’t look shocked to me, you know? They didn’t look shocked. I thought it was very strange. […]
MARIA: You know, they’re laughing. They’re laughing. One of them, I no-ticed, distinctively, put his hand on top of the other guy why they’re filming, on top of his shoulder.
[…]
MILLER: (VO) Sources tell 20/20 the FBI developed film from a camera taken from the Israelis, and that it shows the three on top of the white van were smiling and appeared to be clowning around. The five Israelis were held at this federal jail for allegedly overstaying their visas.

And an article from a NJ newspaper:

An employee of Urban Moving Systems, who would not give his name, said the majority of his co-workers are Israelis and were joking on the day of the attacks. “I was in tears,” the man said. “These guys were joking and that bothered me. These guys were like, ‘Now America knows what we go through.”

That’s three independent sources (a random witness, a co-worker and their own photos). The website also links to hundreds of pages of FBI docs about these five released in 2011, which contain more info, and specifically confirm Miller’s claim about the photos.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:23:11pm

Politifact rated Trump’s neo-nazi chart “Pants on Fire” and h/t’d LGF.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:26:15pm

re: #193 jaunte

The concept the NRA and friends are pushing that rifles and handguns are needed so we can revolt against government (police and military forces) is objectively stupid.

I keep pointing that out to them.

DOUBLE A-10 GUN RUN

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:38:13pm

re: #277 Reality Based Steve

The problem is that it is almost impossible to get Americans to do anything communally unless there is a war.

So, War on Terror, War on Drugs, War on Poverty.

Otherwise at least half of the American people would say “No way. Fuck you!” when a policy meant to handle a social problem is proposed.

It just occurred to me that’s why the wingnuts invented ‘War on Christmas’. It was a good way to get all the wingnuts onside.

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Jenner7  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:40:27pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

I’m surprised he hasn’t called anyone a “poopy head”.

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BeachDem  Nov 23, 2015 • 3:46:35pm

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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New Jersey/Middle East—who HASN’T made that mistake?

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philosophus invidius  Nov 23, 2015 • 5:38:06pm

...

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stonesean  Nov 24, 2015 • 6:43:56am

re: #1 Reality Based Steve

RBS,

In your defense, the GOP of the 1970’s and 1980’s at least used arguments grounded in the actual real world. They were poor arguments, but at least they were intellectually and morally defensible ones…..

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stonesean  Nov 24, 2015 • 6:46:08am

I vaguely recall seeing footage of a dozen people or so in the Palestinian territories celebrating.

Has footage of a handful of people in Gaza somehow transformed in Trump and Carson’s minds into “thousands” in New Jersey?


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