CNN Interviews Trump Supporters - They Don’t Care That He’s Lying

“Don’t try and screw this up - you’re not gonna convince me otherwise”
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I’ve been saying for a while that the right wing voting base simply doesn’t care whether Donald Trump is lying or not, and this CNN video appallingly demonstrates that point. These people have been so thoroughly brainwashed by years of right wing propaganda that a blatant fascist like Donald Trump can just step in and take control at this point.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:52:49pm

It’s not that they don’t care. He’s just confirming what they already believe.

ETA: sorry, I didn’t read you post-only the headline-when I wrote that. So, yes, I think it’s clear that’s what is going on.

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jaunte  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:54:02pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:55:35pm

They don’t care if Carson, Christie, Huckabee, Cruz, Fiorina, or Rubio are lying either, but they’re all boring. They don’t give a shit if Bush is saying anything.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:56:16pm

The only glue that holds the GOP together is their racist hatred of the black man in the White House. And Barefoot is right, the Trumpettes don’t give a rat’s ass about what Trump says. He could go on the stage and do a Don Rickles shtick insulting the audience and they would STILL kiss his ass!

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jaunte  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:57:53pm
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jaunte  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:58:34pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:58:53pm
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Tigger2  Nov 24, 2015 • 7:59:39pm

That’s what a brainwashed mass looks like.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:01:30pm

Ok, I’m going to bed, but I will say there is an upside to this: Trump frequently says “it may not be politically correct to say this” before his lies. He basically equates anti-pc with lies, and the lying liars who lie.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:03:20pm

re: #9 Barefoot Grin

Ok, I’m going to bed, but I will say there is an upside to this: Trump frequently says “it may not be politically correct to say this” before his lies. He basically equates anti-pc with lies.

In saying that, he’s just doing what David Duke did when he was running for governor of Louisiana.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:04:25pm

correction:

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

In saying that, he’s just doing what David Duke did when he was running for governor of Louisiana.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:04:30pm
In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable - what then?

-George Orwell, 1984

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jaunte  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:06:35pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

“Maybe a Trump casino is classy.”

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:07:51pm

Thing to remember: When someone says “”it may not be politically correct to say this, but”, its yet another example of a Negating ‘But’. Upon encountering a Negating ‘But’, an astute reader should disregard the ‘but’ and everything in the sentence that preceded it. The ‘but’ is the clue that everything in front of it is a smokescreen.

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William Lewis  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:08:36pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

Likewise, a quote from the party anthem of the east German socialist party: “The party is always right” (Die Partei hat immer Recht).

I expect Orwell would have gotten a rueful chuckle or two from that. OTOH, DF, that sometimes seems to be you and the Grand Old Party as well…

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:09:57pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

In saying that, he’s just doing what David Duke did when he was running for governor of Louisiana.

FYI, whether you realize it or not this comparison is basically another tacit admission on your part that the modern GOP is dominated by white nationalists. Otherwise how do you explain the popularity of Trump’s racist rhetoric? More importantly how do you rationalize continuing to belong to the Party?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:11:09pm

re: #15 William Lewis

Likewise, a quote from the party anthem of the east German socialist party: “The party is always right” (Die Partei hat immer Recht).

I expect Orwell would have gotten a rueful chuckle or two from that. OTOH, DF, that sometimes seems to be you and the Grand Old Party as well…

Mussolini Trumpini ha sempre ragione” is more appropriate

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:12:47pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

I’m doing my part to prevent Donald Trump from becoming the Republican nominee.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:12:59pm

What a fucking ridiculous masturbatory piece this is! I’ll recap for you: White working class men feel emasculated and Trump gives them a boner.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:13:48pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:15:36pm

re: #17 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mussolini Trumpini ha sempre ragione” is more appropriate

Here’s an example:

Appropriately treated…

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electrotek  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:17:10pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:17:27pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

I’m doing my part to prevent Donald Trump from becoming the Republican nominee.

And when you fail?

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BlueGrl21  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:18:20pm

If you ever have the distinct misfortune of having a beer or 5 with one of these people….trust me. They tell the same lies. Echo chamber.

i got over-bourboned one night with a closet Trump supporter. After I heard 10 minutes straight of conspiracy theories and lies and was shown heavily-edited YouTube videos, I was asked, “You don’t think I’m crazy, right? You believe me?”

“Honey, you’re not crazy. You’re uneducated, living in an echo chamber, and xenophobic. What you are saying is completely untrue. Where the hell are you getting this nonsense?”

To give this guy tremendous credit, he respected me enough to listen to me and has basically figured out the political process is not for him. Trump voters would be better off focusing on their roses and learning macramé.

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Great White Snark  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:20:17pm

re: #22 electrotek

A steel rainstorm awaits these killers. A little slow, a little chaotically, but nations gather against the anathema Daesh.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:21:23pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

What a fucking ridiculous masturbatory piece this is! I’ll recap for you: White working class men feel emasculated and Trump gives them a boner.

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How is that “masturbatory” if Williamson is saying those white guys are missing important things and are making a mistake supporting Donald Trump. Because this is an anti-Trump piece. And just because some people are wrong in feeling mistreated does not make their feelings any less real.

One last point: Williamson us writing from the standpoint of how to oppose Donald Trump if you are right-of-center. How to oppose him if you are left-of-center is a different proposition.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:21:27pm

re: #24 BlueGrl21

If you ever have the distinct misfortune of having a beer or 5 with one of these people….trust me. They tell the same lies. Echo chamber.

i got over-bourboned one night with a closet Trump supporter. After I heard 10 minutes straight of conspiracy theories and lies and was shown heavily-edited YouTube videos, I was asked, “You don’t think I’m crazy, right? You believe me?”

“Honey, you’re not crazy. You’re uneducated, living in an echo chamber, and xenophobic. What you are saying is completely untrue. Where the hell are you getting this nonsense?”

To give this guy tremendous credit, he respected me enough to listen to me and has basically figured out the political process is not for him. Trump voters would be better off focusing on their roses and learning macramé.

Yeah, from my own personal experience, Trumpists are politically naive and have no idea they are being played. They may think T. Rump is the shiznit now, but if he were elected, he’d sell out his supporters faster than lightning.

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electrotek  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:21:29pm

re: #25 Great White Snark

A steel rainstorm awaits these killers. A little slow, a little chaotically, but nations gather against the anathema Daesh.

If this doesn’t discourage young girls from joining this death cult, nothing will.

They need to be destroyed. Since the Pakistani Army loves to present itself as a defender of the Muslim Ummah, they should put their money where their mouth is and send a force to liberate Raqqa once and for all.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:23:06pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Frank discussions of “cuckservatives” and the divide between “alpha” and “beta” males among conservatives is considered rigorous intellectual ammo for opposing Trump.

Ooookay.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:23:25pm

Seriously, the Republican Party isn’t just sick, it has a terminal disease. Nothing can save it.

At this point even it were possible the GOP is not worth trying to save.

Just let it die and build something better.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:23:51pm

re: #25 Great White Snark

A steel rainstorm awaits these killers. A little slow, a little chaotically, but nations gather against the anathema Daesh.

To which they’d respond with: Moron Label!!1 Aloha Snackbar!!1

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:24:59pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, the Republican Party isn’t just sick, it has a terminal disease. Nothing can save it.

At this point even it were possible the GOP is not worth trying to save.

Just let it die and build something better.

I hope I live long enough to read an analytical history of the fall of the GOP.

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Great White Snark  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:25:17pm

re: #28 electrotek

FFS settle this Assad thing and lets all get after these guys before they pull off anything worse. All the great powers. NATO article 5 +. Locals on the ground so its a cleaning not a conquest.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:26:02pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

Let’s not forget that Kevin Williamson advocates for the execution of women who have abortions, and their doctors. And he’s considered a smart, articulate conservative.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:26:08pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Seriously, the Republican Party isn’t just sick, it has a terminal disease. Nothing can save it.

At this point even it were possible the GOP is not worth trying to save.

Just let it die and build something better.

As Charlie Pierce has noted again and again, the GOP is suffering from a prion disease that it contracted with Goldwater and has allowed to grow ever since. It took hold with Reagan, bloomed with Newt, and has been eating away at their higher processes for so long that they no longer have the ability to acknowledge it’s killing them.

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BlueGrl21  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:26:58pm

re: #27 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah, from my own personal experience, Trumpists are politically naive and have no idea they are being played. They may think T. Rump is the shiznit now, but if he were elected, he’d sell out his supporters faster than lightning.

Exactly. They are babes in the woods. No concept of politics. “No, he’s not a politician! He’d never lie!”

Uh huh. Let’s just talk this through. I’ll teach you how this all works. Come, child, take my hand. Let’s learn new words, like propaganda and demagogue.

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piratedan  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:27:17pm

well he gives a lot of folks exactly what they want…..

he’s supposedly a savvy businessman who’s rich, never mind the bankruptcies and starting on 3rd base… that’s irrelevant.

He’s not afraid to speak his mind and call it as he sees it, never mind that it’s easily proven false and is often unkind, he’s NOT politically correct and he gets points for that.

He’s not afraid of anyone, in his party or outside of it. Granted, we understand that its buffoonery, but his supporters see him as his own man, no one is pulling his strings and that’s a plus in their eyes.

As to what he’s saying, they’re not too concerned about that, because we’re Americans, how can we be the bad guys?

So I can see the allure of a big successful political sugar daddy, these folks are more than willing to turn things over to him so they can go back to watching football or Duck Dynasty and be left alone knowing that Big Don is looking out for them.

and to be honest, not just him, but the entire GOP slate scares the ever loving shit out of me, just like the folks that they elect to the Senate and the House, not a single fucking one of them gives a shit about creating jobs, paying people a fair wage, fixing things or making sure PEOPLE get a fair shake, no matter their race, creed, color or gender.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:28:06pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Frank discussions of “cuckservatives” and the divide between “alpha” and “beta” males among conservatives is considered rigorous intellectual ammo for opposing Trump.

Ooookay.

Williamson has never given the “Cuckservative” meme any houseroom, and he brings up the “alpha and beta” stuff because that is what informs the views of the people he is talking about. He’s not saying he believes it, but those seeking to refute Trump to someone who is currently supporting Trump need to understand what it is about Donald Trump that appeals to that person.

You have to understand the virus in order to devise a vaccine.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:28:15pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

And just because some people are wrong in feeling mistreated does not make their feelings any less real.

Just read this sentence to yourself a few times and then tell me how it’s not a bunch of stereotypically new age woo bullshit. Why the hell should anybody care about the feelings of a bunch of revanchist scapegoating fucktards? If you need these people’s votes to win then you’re in an incredibly shitty position to begin with.

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stpaulbear  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:30:10pm

re: #36 BlueGrl21

Exactly. They are babes in the woods. No concept of politics. “No, he’s not a politician! He’d never lie!”

Uh huh. Let’s just talk this through. I’ll teach you how this all works. Come, child, take my hand. Let’s learn new words, like propaganda and demagogue.

The old Trump supporters probably felt exactly the same way about Reagan.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:31:57pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

Let’s not forget that Kevin Williamson advocates for the execution of women who have abortions, and their doctors. And he’s considered a smart, articulate conservative.

I can’t defend his saying that, though I think it should be noted that he’s adopted and he’s pretty sure that the laws in Texas that prohibited abortion when his birth mother was pregnant with him are the reason he was born.

It’s a gone-so-far-its-bad version of “I couldn’t kill Baby Hitler because my father’s parents met because of WWII.”

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:33:32pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

he brings up the “alpha and beta” stuff because that is what informs the views of the people he is talking about.

So you’re saying that conservative males are terrified that their pricks are inadequate and that informs their political and social decisions.

I have one word to describe those people, troglodytes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:34:26pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

I can’t defend his saying that, though I think it should be noted that he’s adopted and he’s pretty sure that the laws in Texas that prohibited abortion when his birth mother was pregnant with him are the reason he was born.

It’s a gone-so-far-its-bad version of “I couldn’t kill Baby Hitler because my father’s parents met because of WWII.”

Sometimes context is not necessary and makes no difference.

There are no “notes” needed in this situation, and offering them comes very, very close to sounding like you are excusing him for what he’s said.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:37:08pm

re: #36 BlueGrl21

Exactly. They are babes in the woods. No concept of politics. “No, he’s not a politician! He’d never lie!”

Uh huh. Let’s just talk this through. I’ll teach you how this all works. Come, child, take my hand. Let’s learn new words, like propaganda and demagogue.

They’re also weak on history. They know little about the men who were demagogues, like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Joe McCarthy, and the entire Kim family of North Korea.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:38:53pm

Jesus Christ.

The neanderthals at officer.com are unbelievable.

They are actually insisting…after watching the video…that Laquan was running at the officers.

These are fucking cops who are seeing something utterly different from what every other human can see on the video. They are insisting the kid was running at the police.

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I wasn’t there. I am not privy to any investigation. But I know that this will not be on the level. It will be race pandering. Of the HUNDREDS of black folks murdered in Chicago by other blacks, this is the only one that Obama Emanuel wants “RESIDENTS” to be remain calm about???????? Why would that be? Don’t Black Lies Matter? I cannot seem to figure that out. If this cop is guilty, then he is not a cop , he is a perp and I will bet that COPS will make sure real justice is done, not savage extortion by threat of “street party”.
I’m not so sure about this one. I don’t understand why this kid would run so far with a knife at the police unless he wanted trouble.

Use of force one level above the assailant. In this environment officers being killed and with the amount of gunfire, murder and mayhem in Chicago I can’t tell what the officer was thinking.

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He was overcharged. I am certain this suspect was looking for trouble. I am certain the suspect did not listen to constructive force. The use of force was escalated because the suspect had a weapon. Lethal force is authorized. There were at least 3 officers past the point where the suspect was shot. The suspect was displaying this knife as he ran towards the officers, I do not know what the officer was thinking. He may have thought the suspect was about to rush him or worse run towards the unsuspecting officers past him in the direction the suspect was headed.

I am near speechless.

I don’t know what you can even call something like this. These are people with guns and badges who seem to be deranged.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:39:41pm

re: #45 Aunty Entity Dragon

The Blue Wall.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:41:21pm

re: #46 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The Blue Wall.

They are claiming to see things that are provably untrue.

I don’t know how to even respond to something like that.

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jaunte  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:42:32pm
“…In April, the Chicago Tribune revealed Van Dyke’s name and his history of civilian complaints—including several brutality complaints, one of which cost the city $500,000 in a civil lawsuit—none of which resulted in any disciplinary action. In May, Carol Marin reported that video from a security camera at a Burger King on the scene had apparently been deleted by police in the hours after the shooting.

“This case shows the operation of the code of silence in the Chicago Police Department,” said Futterman. “From the very start you have officers and detectives conspiring to cover up the story. The question is, why are they not being charged?”

Van Dyke’s history “also shows what happens when the police department consistently chooses not to look at patterns of abuse complaints when investigating misconduct charges,” he adds. This failure “is one of the reasons an officer like Van Dyke has an opportunity to execute a 17-year-old kid.”
chicagoreporter.com

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gwangung  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:42:41pm

re: #47 Aunty Entity Dragon

They are claiming to see things that are provably untrue.

I don’t know how to even respond to something like that.

And each and every one of them will be backed up by hundreds more out there in the citizenry…

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makeitstop  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:46:12pm

re: #49 gwangung

And each and every one of them will be backed up by hundreds more out there in the citizenry…

I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if that talking point made it into Buzz Windrip’s stump speech next week.

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A Cranky One  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:48:33pm

re: #47 Aunty Entity Dragon

They are claiming to see things that are provably untrue.

I don’t know how to even respond to something like that.

COPS: I saw him going to attack the officers

CARLY: I saw them harvesting brains at PP

TRUMP: I saw thousands of people celebrating in NJ on 9/11

Gee, and I was worried because I thought I saw a putty tat.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:49:06pm

re: #47 Aunty Entity Dragon

They are claiming to see things that are provably untrue.

I don’t know how to even respond to something like that.

You can’t. Trump supporters have distinct memories of seeing with their own eyes Muslims in NJ celebrating 9/11, although there are no records of such anywhere.

When Galileo invited people to look through his telescope at the craters and mountains of the Moon, they refused to see an Earth-like world. They had been taught that the Moon was a perfect crystalline sphere, smooth as a glass ball, and accused Galileo of fakery.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:49:17pm

re: #49 gwangung

And each and every one of them will be backed up by hundreds more out there in the citizenry…

I mean…hell…it’s like they are claiming that gnomes live in their houses and witches speak to them at night and give them bad thoughts. They are actually seeing things in the video that do not happen.

What the holy hell??! These are people who can walk up to you and shoot you and then claim you were making a furtive movement.

They are seeing actions on a video that demonstrably did not happen.

You know…maybe this actually explains a lot.

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Teukka  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:50:48pm

re: #53 Aunty Entity Dragon

I mean…hell…it’s like they are claiming that gnomes live in their houses and witches speak to them at night and give them bad thoughts. They are actually seeing things in the video that do not happen.

What the holy hell??! These are people who can walk up to you and shoot you and then claim you were making a furtive movement.

They are seeing actions on a video that demonstrably did not happen.

You know…maybe this actually explains a lot.

Seeing things that aren’t there is a sign of delusion, no?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:51:57pm

re: #54 Teukka

Seeing things that aren’t there is a sign of delusion, no?

I think they have been conditioned to interpret everything in such a way to the point that it distorts actual reality.

The Puritans at Salem were not insane, but they really thought they were under Satanic attack because they had been conditioned for years to believe that Satan was under every bed and behind every door.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:52:18pm

I shared this post to my Twitter. Immediately some waterhead chimes in and says WHAT ABOUT KILLARY’S LIES?!? followed by a link to Steven Crowder’s cesspool of a blog.

Say hello to my block button, motherfucker.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:52:55pm

re: #53 Aunty Entity Dragon

I mean…hell…it’s like they are claiming that gnomes live in their houses and witches speak to them at night and give them bad thoughts. They are actually seeing things in the video that do not happen.

What the holy hell??! These are people who can walk up to you and shoot you and then claim you were making a furtive movement.

They are seeing actions on a video that demonstrably did not happen.

You know…maybe this actually explains a lot.

It does. Police training — for local PDs anyway — does not include analysis, self-doubt and self-questioning. It’s just tactics, not strategy. It’s one reason why state police and FBI agents look down on local police as incompetent buffoons — “local yokels.”

Not that state police and the FBI have a much better track record in unnecessary killing of suspects.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:53:13pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

I shared this post to my Twitter. Immediately some waterhead chimes in and says WHAT ABOUT KILLARY’S LIES?!? followed by a link to Steven Crowder’s cesspool of a blog.

Say hello to my block button, motherfucker.

*ponders*

….I think I’d be more likely to vote for her if she called herself Kill-ary.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:54:45pm

re: #45 Aunty Entity Dragon

Jesus Christ.

The neanderthals at officer.com are unbelievable.

They are actually insisting…after watching the video…that Laquan was running at the officers.

These are fucking cops who are seeing something utterly different from what every other human can see on the video. They are insisting the kid was running at the police.

I am near speechless.

I don’t know what you can even call something like this. These are people with guns and badges who seem to be deranged.

I should be the key demographic for the cop-is-always-right mindset. Over 60, (extremely) white, straight, male, grew up in what would now be considered an all-white suburb (since Arabs and Lebanese and so forth aren’t “white” any more, wtf?)…and yet all I can say to people like me is: Don’t you remember the constant, daily, chickenshit harassment you were subjected to by these fuckers, at least as soon as you started to drive? Every time you left the house you had at least a 10% chance of getting pulled over and having one of these diseased animals run their dominance/abasement ritual on you. Of course the chances were higher if you were driving either a flashy car or a jalopy.

This experience has left me with a lifelong fear and hatred of cops and the cop mentality. I cannot have them anywhere near me. These assholes fancy themselves like the alpha males in a baboon troop, and they expect every individual they encounter to bend over and present themselves to be mounted. This mindset needs to be totally eliminated from our society by whatever means necessary.

I don’t want to hear about how this is a “necessary” job that needs to be done. Lifelong reflection has led me to the conclusion that we would be infinitely better off without it. The whole concept is so alien to English Common Law that you’ll notice they had to borrow the French word.

If I feel this way, a guy who’s on the right end of most axes of privilege, can you imagine how People of Color feel, growing up in this society? It’s only gotten much worse since I was young, with the progressive militarization of police departments across the country.

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jaunte  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:55:05pm

Trump also called on Americans to take action and report suspicious activity in their neighborhoods.

“The real greatest resource is all of you, because you have all those eyes and you see what’s happening. People move into a house a block down the road, you know who’s going in. You can see and you report them to the local police,” Trump said.

“You’re pretty smart, right? We know if there’s something going, report ‘em. Most likely you’ll be wrong, but that’s OK. But let the local police go in and check out and you get rid of this stuff. That’s the best way. Everybody’s their own cop in a way, you gotta do it. You gotta do it,” he said.

Trump also again claimed that “thousands” of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated the terrorist attacks of 9/11, though it has been widely debunked by fact checkers

Trump’s Vigilantes.

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palomino  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:55:51pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

How is that “masturbatory” if Williamson is saying those white guys are missing important things and are making a mistake supporting Donald Trump. Because this is an anti-Trump piece. And just because some people are wrong in feeling mistreated does not make their feelings any less real.

One last point: Williamson us writing from the standpoint of how to oppose Donald Trump if you are right-of-center. How to oppose him if you are left-of-center is a different proposition.

Williamson makes some good points about Trump’s repugnance and his sick appeal to populist xenophobic cretins. But overall KDW seems more interested in making a lot of (anti) gay jokes about Trump and his supporters. At the same time he takes Trump to task for his uber-alpha male persona, he also suggests that support of Donald Trump is all wrapped up in authoritarian homoeroticism.

He’s basically using 20 paragraphs to just say, “Trump’s supporters are stupid. AND they’re fags too.” Typical KDW dickishness.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:56:22pm
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gwangung  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:56:54pm

re: #60 jaunte

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Trump’s Vigilantes.

East Germany did it better.

I suppose Trump takes that as a challenge.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:57:44pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

I imagine that’s par for the course for Simi Valley, home of Ronaldus Maximus’ final resting place.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:58:52pm

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Radley Balko wrote that police as we now experience them would likely have been considered unconstitutional in the immediate post colonial/early Federal period. The constitutional framers considered the local militia to be sufficient for law enforcement and that a permanent large police would have been too much like an additional standing army with dangerous power.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 8:59:37pm

re: #53 Aunty Entity Dragon

I mean…hell…it’s like they are claiming that gnomes live in their houses and witches speak to them at night and give them bad thoughts. They are actually seeing things in the video that do not happen.

What the holy hell??! These are people who can walk up to you and shoot you and then claim you were making a furtive movement.

They are seeing actions on a video that demonstrably did not happen.

You know…maybe this actually explains a lot.

Someone saying that is concerned with what they think is the overall TRUTH, not with the facts of s given situation. Like committed Stalinists turning their views on a dime in response to the latest words of Comrade Stalin, those who are saying things are on the tape that clearly do not exist are trying to preserve what for them remains the central TRUTH:

Armed Black Male defies the authority of a police officer after slashing the tire of a police car. According to the pseudo-logic, if the Armed Black Male is allowed to continue to defy Authority, then ‘fill-in-the-blank disastrous collapse of authority will follow’. Adherents also believe that a similar collapse will occur if the cop is punished for having Upheld Authority.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:00:44pm

re: #60 jaunte

Trump’s Vigilantes.

It’s how life in North Korea is now, and how it was during China’s Cultural Revolution. Neighborhood busybodies (aka informers or political representatives) would visit homes to check on the loyalty and patriotism of the residents. In NoKo, they do a white-glove test on the required shrine of Kim, and check to see if the family radio or TV is tuned to the NoKo stations and not a foreign broadcast signal (even China’s).

People learn not to trust anyone, even their own family. It’s one of many reasons why North Korean defectors to the South have such a hard time adapting to their new life of freedom.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:02:15pm

re: #45 Aunty Entity Dragon

Jesus Christ.

The neanderthals at officer.com are unbelievable.

They are actually insisting…after watching the video…that Laquan was running at the officers.

These are fucking cops who are seeing something utterly different from what every other human can see on the video. They are insisting the kid was running at the police.

I am near speechless.

I don’t know what you can even call something like this. These are people with guns and badges who seem to be deranged.

The Fraternal Order of Police, like any fraternity these days, is big on the idea that every member is responsible for covering for the ass of his fellow frat brothers. That runs counter to the idea of personal responsibility, counter to the idea that you should watch your own ass because nobody else will watch it for you. Thus cops have it regularly pounded into their heads that if they don’t cover for their fellow cops, don’t say or do whatever it takes to keep their asses out of the fire, then their fellow cops won’t be there to cover for them. But many take it even farther, not simply refusing to cover for those who don’t cover for them, but see it as an actual betrayal to call out another cop for doing something they shouldn’t.

In other words, the mentality that sees a college frat swear to a man that they never saw one of their own rape a co-ed is the same that has cops swear they all saw a suspect lunge at one of their own, no matter what the actual evidence shows.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:03:03pm

Which one is the Alpha?

Bucks fighting it out

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:04:52pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

Williamson has never given the “Cuckservative” meme any houseroom, and he brings up the “alpha and beta” stuff because that is what informs the views of the people he is talking about. He’s not saying he believes it, but those seeking to refute Trump to someone who is currently supporting Trump need to understand what it is about Donald Trump that appeals to that person.

You have to understand the virus in order to devise a vaccine.

Vaccines only work if they’re administered before contraction of the disease. The GOP is suffering from terminal stage hemorrhagic racism.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:06:08pm

re: #53 Aunty Entity Dragon

I mean…hell…it’s like they are claiming that gnomes live in their houses and witches speak to them at night and give them bad thoughts. They are actually seeing things in the video that do not happen.

What the holy hell??! These are people who can walk up to you and shoot you and then claim you were making a furtive movement.

They are seeing actions on a video that demonstrably did not happen.

You know…maybe this actually explains a lot.

See my Orwell quote above, 2+2=5.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:06:12pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

Vaccines only work if they’re administered before contraction of the disease. The GOP is suffering from terminal stage hemorrhagic racism.

Then think of it as Thamiflu, damn it.

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palomino  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:06:58pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

I imagine that’s par for the course for Simi Valley, home of Ronaldus Maximus’ final resting place.

Yes, indeed. Simi Valley is a virtually all white, middle class suburb of L.A. with a lot of cops and ex-military. Very conservative territory. It’s infamous in southern California for being the site of the first “Rodney King” trial. Despite clear video evidence, an all white jury acquitted ALL the officers who beat King to within an inch of his life. Then my city burned for 3 days.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:07:21pm

The US Embassy in Beijing has sent out a worldwide travel e-mail alert effective until Feb. 24, warning that Islamist groups may attack multiple locations in the next few months.

The State Dept is not advising us ex-pats to stay home, but to use caution when traveling about. No specific destinations are named in the alert as possible danger zones, either.

My winter holiday runs from Jan. 15 to Feb. 25, and I’m going to travel anyway. Thinking Malaysia at the moment.

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palomino  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:08:14pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Then think of it as Thamiflu, damn it.

But that doesn’t cure anything, just masks symptoms. So it’s no better.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:08:43pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

Which one is the Alpha?

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Video

The buck that runs at the end of the video is the beta, the buck chasing is the alpha.

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Lidane  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:10:11pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

In saying that, he’s just doing what David Duke did when he was running for governor of Louisiana.

Since you brought up Duke and his governor’s race, what’s the over/under on the rest of the GOP having a “Vote for Hillary, It’s Important” moment if Trump gets the nomination?

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:10:29pm

re: #75 palomino

But that doesn’t cure anything, just masks symptoms. So it’s no better.

If given promptly it can keep the symptoms from killing a person who was vulnerable until their T-cells can produce the antibodies needed to kill the virus.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:11:17pm

re: #77 Lidane

Since you brought up Duke and his governor’s race, what’s the over/under on the rest of the GOP having a “Vote for Hillary, It’s Important” moment if Trump gets the nomination?

Ask someone from Vegas, because I don’t know.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:11:20pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

Then think of it as Thamiflu, damn it.

This of it as hospice care. There’s nothing to be done for the GOP except give it a comfortable place to die.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:12:59pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

The buck that runs at the end of the video is the beta, the buck chasing is the alpha.

Somehow I knew you’d be the one to answer.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:13:18pm

I’m out for the night. I may need to stay away from the news for a couple of days. I want a Thanksgiving where I am not terminally depressed…and this has been a shitty month in news.

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darthstar  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:13:19pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:13:38pm

Any thinkpiece or pundit excretion that’s suddenly all critique-y of Trump populism, but whistles in an overly casual way when passing over the evidence of where it comes from…is stupid or disingenuous.

Renting a refridgerated locker, filling it with cadaver parts, borrowing a Telsa Coil, and getting really good at sewing with heavy-gauge gut invariably precedes Frankenstein Monsters rampaging. Nobody’s going to believe that you were innocently working on meat pinatas when the neck-bolted undead just dropped out of nowhere and started smashing your equipment.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:13:50pm

If someone thinks the problem in the GOP is Donald Trump, they’re already engaging in their own fair share of reality denial.

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darthstar  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:14:33pm

What’s up everyone? DF got wood over a Playboy article? Good for you, Dark…enjoy that throbbing missile.

Sometimes it’s fun catching up.

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piratedan  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:15:17pm

re: #85 klys (maker of Silmarils)

he’s just the poster boy, emblematic of the brand itself…..

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:17:22pm

re: #86 darthstar

What’s up everyone? DF got wood over a Playboy article? Good for you, Dark…enjoy that throbbing missile.

Sometimes it’s fun catching up.

Shorter Darthstar: Penis, penis, penis.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:18:41pm

re: #83 darthstar

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“This one time, in band clamp …”

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palomino  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:20:08pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

If given promptly it can keep the symptoms from killing a person who was vulnerable until their T-cells can produce the antibodies needed to kill the virus.

Well played, Doctor.

You turned my alpha quip beta by actually knowing what Thamiflu is. That’s no fun.

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whitebeach  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:23:29pm

re: #55 Aunty Entity Dragon

I think they have been conditioned to interpret everything in such a way to the point that it distorts actual reality.

The Puritans at Salem were not insane, but they really thought they were under Satanic attack because they had been conditioned for years to believe that Satan was under every bed and behind every door.

Your point about long-term indoctrination is excellent for diagnosing how both the Puritans and today’s Republican Party arrived at their mindsets, but the fact of having been brainwashed does not make the brainwashee sane. Sort of the opposite. IMHO a large chunk of the R Party slipped the surly bonds of sanity long ago and are only drifting deeper into space.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:24:49pm

re: #90 palomino

Well played, Doctor.

You turned my alpha quip beta by actually knowing what Thamiflu is. That’s no fun.

It’s a tough room, LGF is. If you don’t want your comeback pounded into the ground you’d better be sure of its facts. Especially with Frank around, since he’s very fast with his research.

But I somewhat sheepishly admit that I first learned about what Thamiflu is from a show on “Killer Influenza” on the Discovery Health channel.

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palomino  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:27:11pm

re: #85 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If someone thinks the problem in the GOP is Donald Trump, they’re already engaging in their own fair share of reality denial.

Sounds right. The problem with the GOP is not that Donald Trump is one of them. It’s that 30% of them want Donald Trump. Throw in Carson (~20%) and Cruz (~10%), and you’re at 60% of the party supporting a complete lunatic, of one variety or another. THAT’s the problem with the GOP. Even that dickhead Kevin D Williamson gets that, sort of. The last line of his Playboy article:

But as a matter of culture, Trump is—unhappily—right where a great many conservatives are: angry, sputtering, lashing out. Trump may not last; Trumpism will.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:28:08pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

It’s a tough room, LGF is.

And believe it or not, we like having you around. Happy holidays.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:29:32pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

If given promptly it can keep the symptoms from killing a person who was vulnerable until their T-cells can produce the antibodies needed to kill the virus.

The GOP’s immuno-compromised, it’s natural defenses wiped out by a disease called “Citizens United.” The Thamiflu isn’t giving it time to develop antibodies, it’s masking the reality that the patient is dying.

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palomino  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:32:09pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

It’s a tough room, LGF is. If you don’t want your comeback pounded into the ground you’d better be sure of its facts. Especially with Frank around, since he’s very fast with his research.

But I somewhat sheepishly admit that I first learned about what Thamiflu is from a show on “Killer Influenza” on the Discovery Health channel.

Sounded like the CVS version of Theraflu. Which of course only masks symptoms. Better still, it knocks you out so you forget about the symptoms.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:33:24pm

re: #95 Targetpractice

The GOP’s immuno-compromised, it’s natural defenses wiped out by a disease called “Citizens United.” The Thamiflu isn’t giving it time to develop antibodies, it’s masking the reality that the patient is dying.

On that you and I simply do not agree.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:34:26pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

On that you and I simply do not agree.

Curious: what do you see as the problems the GOP has today?

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:35:32pm

This is me the day I find out Trump is running a third party campaign because the Republican National Committee told him “No”:

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palomino  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:36:01pm

re: #98 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Curious: what do you see as the problems the GOP has today?

Give the guy a break. He doesn’t have all night to compile such a list.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:36:13pm

re: #98 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Curious: what do you see as the problems the GOP has today?

Ask me that sometime further from my bedtime.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:36:27pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

On that you and I simply do not agree.

Denial is a strong thing to overcome, even in the best of circumstances. Enough of us still remember someone who swore he’d never support Romney, then was left doing exactly that for the latter half of 2012.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:37:28pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Ask me that sometime further from my bedtime.

palomino called it!

re: #100 palomino

Give the guy a break. He doesn’t have all night to compile such a list.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:37:30pm

re: #98 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Curious: what do you see as the problems the GOP has today?

LOL, and you thought NaNo was a challenge.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:37:44pm

I think this Williamson paragraph you folks will agree with:

The permanently outraged populist right, endlessly rehearsing the tragedy of the wicked establishment’s eternal betrayal of the holy base, is almost exclusively a creation of the entertainment wing of the conservative movement, and it is satisfyingly ironic to see Dr. Frankenstein’s monster finally turn its inchoate rage on its creator. (For here there is no Bride of Frankenstein.) Roger Ailes’s feud with Donald Trump has something of the professional-wrestling beef about it: this is his circus, and these are his monkeys.

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:39:07pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

A gem in shit is still covered in shit.

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Targetpractice  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:39:42pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

I think this Williamson paragraph you folks will agree with:

The problem with Ailes’ monkeys is that they’re now slinging shit in Trump’s name, when once they slung shit at him instead. It’s not hard to see which way they think the wind’s blowing.

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sagehen  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:43:14pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

And when you fail?

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He’ll vote for him anyway. Because Party Rah Rah!!

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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:43:56pm

re: #60 jaunte

Eerily similar to the sedition amendments to the Espionage Act of 1917.

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Belafon  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:47:24pm

James Corbin just did a good takedown of the Hillary laughing ad by putting the same flames over laughing minions, the Today show hosts, and Elmo laughing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 24, 2015 • 9:56:35pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

The entertainment wing?

Ha…no. That itself is a revision. Angry Southerners, Birchers, and ultra-Christians were working the corner of “Angry” and “Self-pitying” long before FOX News sparked to life. Indeed, it’s a calculated revision to shift the blame off the “serious” GOP insiders that encouraged Bullshit Voltron to assemble.

This is what tall tales of welfare queens with Cadillacs looks like, thirty+ years on.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:01:02pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

I think this Williamson paragraph you folks will agree with:

That’s the Kevin Williamson who thinks women who have abortions should be executed, right?

Fuck that asshole, forever. I have no idea why you insist on bringing his disgusting vile right wing bullshit in here.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:02:40pm

Off to teach young minds. See you later.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:09:07pm

the gop base is doomed to forever be frustrated and foaming at the mouth angry. for years theyve been promised impossible things, and now trump comes along upping the ante and promising to deliver the even more impossible

this is a dangerous game

i think trump figures he’ll lie his way into office, then do what he wants to do, and us libberuls will love it because it will be much more reasonable than the fascist bullshit he’s been peddling

but whatever happens, within two years his nazi army will figure out that theyve been lied to and they’ll tear him apart, and he’ll be lucky if it’s only figuratively

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Jenner7  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:18:44pm

How dare he stare at a cop.

Then there’s this:

Sigh.

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Khal Wimpo  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:19:50pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

A gem in shit is still covered in shit.

“It’s like I tellya, Pepper. Ya can’t. Polish. A turd.”
Will Darnell, “Christine” 1983

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Khal Wimpo  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:22:38pm

re: #111 The Ghost of a Flea

The entertainment wing?

Ha…no. That itself is a revision. Angry Southerners, Birchers, and ultra-Christians were working the corner of “Angry” and “Self-pitying” long before FOX News sparked to life. Indeed, it’s a calculated revision to shift the blame off the “serious” GOP insiders that encouraged Bullshit Voltron to assemble.

This is what tall tales of welfare queens with Cadillacs looks like, thirty+ years on.

Interesting. I would trace it back somewhat later, to the rise of the evil, cynical politics of Lee Atwater. Reagan may have danced around feeding the narrative, but Atwater really jammed it into a higher gear and floored the bitch with the whole Willie Horton meme.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:35:05pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

Not at all. The rise of Trump simply comes from the fact that the fascist/nativist/racist wing of the Republican Party were finally able to find a marketable face to espouse their repulsive ideology. This group has been around for decades, but every other attempt to bring one of their own into the national spotlight has failed to garner anything more than marginal support.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:43:07pm

re: #90 palomino

Well played, Doctor.

You turned my alpha quip beta by actually knowing what Thamiflu is. That’s no fun.

Except it’s not T-cells that produce antibodies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:45:57pm

re: #119 Blind Frog Belly White

And there’s no ‘h’ in Tamiflu

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:47:39pm

re: #117 Khal Wimpo

Interesting. I would trace it back somewhat later, to the rise of the evil, cynical politics of Lee Atwater. Reagan may have danced around feeding the narrative, but Atwater really jammed it into a higher gear and floored the bitch with the whole Willie Horton meme.

I actually agree with you as to where it started.

I just think Reagan perfectly illustrates how empty the claims of “serious” GOP thinkers that the crazy base are some kind of outlier camp, and that Trump’s medicine show is some kind of new, novel thing.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 24, 2015 • 10:52:05pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

And there’s no ‘h’ in Tamiflu

‘thamiflu’ is the spelling in old low franconian

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prairiefire  Nov 24, 2015 • 11:14:17pm

re: #117 Khal Wimpo

And then there was the actual malfeasance of Iran contra.

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Kragar  Nov 24, 2015 • 11:25:49pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 24, 2015 • 11:30:27pm

re: #124 Kragar

That’s the same asshole that I reference in my #56. I received the exact same tweet.

Don’t these weirdos have anything better to do?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 24, 2015 • 11:50:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 25, 2015 • 12:19:36am
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 25, 2015 • 12:26:51am

WingNut Daily has an article about how Michael Weiner is endorsing having the Mafia take out Daesh. They really need to start taking their anti-psychotics.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 25, 2015 • 12:59:03am

re: #128 Single-handed sailor

WingNut Daily has an article about how Michael Weiner is endorsing having the Mafia take out Daesh. They really need to start taking their anti-psychotics.

That worked so well with Castro….

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dell*nix  Nov 25, 2015 • 1:06:00am

re: #60 jaunte

Sounds entirely too much like how Stalin and Hitler operated Forget the names but they had building and block supervisors that collected information on tenants and reported it to the secret police.

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Nyet  Nov 25, 2015 • 1:16:05am

re: #22 electrotek

Hopefully a good lesson for all other shitheads trying to join a band of sadists. But maybe not - they are good at rationalizing things away.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 25, 2015 • 1:20:00am

Just watched the pilot episode of Syfy’s The Expanse. It’s easily the most ambitious and immersive sci fi tv show since the Battlestar reboot. The writing / acting weren’t really anything special, but also didn’t suck. On the other hand the physics, effects, sets and the universe the show inhabits are all very well crafted.

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teleskiguy  Nov 25, 2015 • 1:29:02am

A childhood friend of mine who works for one of the big ski areas took this photo with his phone while he was working. Morning of 24 November.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 25, 2015 • 1:43:10am

re: #133 teleskiguy

Big kitty!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 25, 2015 • 2:13:26am

Seriously.fucking.delusional.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 2:23:30am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Seriously.fucking.delusional.

Probably remembers seeing Bigfoot in Hackensack, too.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 25, 2015 • 3:05:48am

Same fucking clowns that blame Clinton for invading Iraq.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:02:22am

Was this mentioned yesterday?

The white supremacist mocked “social justice warriors” and other anti-racist whites, who they described in psychosexual terms.

“Best to act as much like a beta white cuck as much as you can,” one the racists said.

Emails reveal racists plotted confrontation with Black Lives Matters activists days before shooting

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Bubblehead II  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:02:42am

Morning Lizards.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:11:34am

Morning All.

Got the day off and the Bride is working. What to do, What to do??????

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Bubblehead II  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:15:43am

re: #140 Dave In Austin

Morning All.

Got the day off and the Bride is working. What to do, What to do??????

Laundry, dishes, and vacuuming the floor?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:16:40am

re: #141 Bubblehead II

Laundry, dishes, and vacuuming the floor?

That got done last nite…

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Bubblehead II  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:19:51am

re: #142 Dave In Austin

That got done last nite…

Cool. Then you can sit there and wait for day shift to wake up and start posting. East coast Lizards should be getting their act together soon. West coast Lizards are probably still slacking asleep.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:33:12am

CARL ROVE ON MSNBC!?!?!?!?!

Ah, Fuck…….

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Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:39:41am

re: #143 Bubblehead II

Cool. Then you can sit there and wait for day shift to wake up and start posting. East coast Lizards should be getting their act together soon. West coast Lizards are probably still slacking asleep.

We’re on ‘relaxed holiday schedule’. Read your freakn’ email.

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:40:56am

re: #133 teleskiguy

Nice kitty. Come inside and get warm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:48:34am

re: #144 Dave In Austin

CARL ROVE ON MSNBC!?!?!?!?!

Ah, Fuck…….

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remember, he is one of the saner members of that party…

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Bubblehead II  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:53:22am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

We’re on ‘relaxed holiday schedule’. Read your freakn’ email.

Sound too much like work. :-)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 4:55:29am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

remember, he is one of the saner members of that party…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:00:14am

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

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QED

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:04:40am

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

DUMMY!!!

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:05:23am

Trump plays to the crowds that thinks Fox News is often too Liberal.

Certain relatives of mine are among this crowd. And they are mostly over the age of 65. They willingly and enthusiastically wall themselves off from the rest of the world and believe that if you just have faith enough things you believe can be true or made manifest. Facts and real world evidence play no part in this cognitive process.

This current societal cancer will continue for the next 25 Years until the entitlement-addeled baby boomers die from old age. Their fears and belief systems have been coddled for the last 40 years and it will be interesting to witness this country evolve into its next political phase they leave the electorate.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:06:55am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Seriously.fucking.delusional.

TRUMPS BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:08:02am

re: #152 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Trump plays to the crowds that thinks Fox News is often too Liberal.

Certain relatives of mine are among this crowd. And they are mostly over the age of 65. They willingly and enthusiastically wall themselves off from the rest of the world and believe that if you just have faith enough things you believe can be true or made manifest. Facts and real world evidence play no part in this cognitive process.

This current societal cancer will continue for the next 25 Years until the entitlement-addeled baby boomers die from old age. Their fears and belief systems have been coddled for the last 40 years and it will be interesting to witness this country evolve into its next political phase they leave the electorate.

Hey! I’m a baby boomer! Just a sane one — mostly. :P

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:08:38am

re: #152 Rocky-in-Connecticut

This current societal cancer will continue for the next 25 Years until the entitlement-addeled baby boomers die from old age. Their fears and belief systems have been coddled for the last 40 years and it will be interesting to witness this country evolve into its next political phase they leave the electorate.

Ha, we’ll have life extension modes up and running soon. Boomers will be uploading their brains to SSDs and inserting them into clones. They’ll never die. /cry.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:08:44am

re: #138 Timothy Watson

Was this mentioned yesterday?

Emails reveal racists plotted confrontation with Black Lives Matters activists days before shooting

These emails do not exist but the movie of Muslims celebrating 9/11 does.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:10:31am

re: #128 Single-handed sailor

WingNut Daily has an article about how Michael Weiner is endorsing having the Mafia take out Daesh. They really need to start taking their anti-psychotics.

Why didn’t Obummer think of that?
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:14:59am

re: #155 Bird in the Paw

Ha, we’ll have life extension modes up and running soon. Boomers will be uploading their brains to SSDs and inserting them into clones. They’ll never die. /cry.

I’m sure someone must have done a SF story about old farts hanging on to life in some way to retain control of their world, only to completely screw it up.

There are some stories with the premise that being immortal either makes one very wise and compassionate, or stark raving bonkers. Compare Highlander to The Picture of Dorian Grey, for example.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:15:41am

re: #152 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Trump plays to the crowds that thinks Fox News is often too Liberal.

Certain relatives of mine are among this crowd. And they are mostly over the age of 65. They willingly and enthusiastically wall themselves off from the rest of the world and believe that if you just have faith enough things you believe can be true or made manifest. Facts and real world evidence play no part in this cognitive process.

This current societal cancer will continue for the next 25 Years until the entitlement-addeled baby boomers die from old age. Their fears and belief systems have been coddled for the last 40 years and it will be interesting to witness this country evolve into its next political phase they leave the electorate.

Yes, you can catch many of them gathering at the local McDonalds in the mornings for companionship in misery through the daily recitation of the same goddamn stories (last summer I used a McDonalds for its wifi while my son was at soccer camp one week; I got to know about “I don’t care about my gambling—I’m having fun,” and “they’re all using the welfare and that’s why we don’t get no raise in our benefits,” etc.).

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:17:29am

re: #159 Barefoot Grin

Yes, you can catch many of them gathering at the local McDonalds in the mornings for companionship in misery through the daily recitation of the same goddamn stories (last summer I used a McDonalds for its wifi while my son was at soccer camp one week; I got to know about “I don’t care about my gambling—I’m having fun,” and “they’re all using the welfare and that’s why we don’t get no raise in our benefits,” etc.).

This was a fate my mother sought to avoid. My dad toyed with the idea of retiring to some retirement community in Florida, until Mom put her foot down and said there was no way she was going to live with a bunch of old people. That ended the discussion.

As I am now edging up to my 60th birthday, I can understand why she was so adamant. Stick with people who are like you too much, and you become a fossil.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:23:10am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This was a fate my mother sought to avoid. My dad toyed with the idea of retiring to some retirement community in Florida, until Mom put her foot down and said there was no way she was going to live with a bunch of old people. That ended the discussion.

That’s important, I think, if it can be avoided.

I am not a church-goer anymore, but for my parents it’s been a life-saver. They are doing some volunteer work—delivering meals, doing maintenance at a local shelter—several times a week, and the congregation is a diverse mix of old and young (it’s also fairly progressive; the regressive members who don’t like the gays split and built their own church out in a cornfield where they don’t have to mix so much with society). My folks (dad is 90 and mom 83) are still friends with some of them, but they’re not confined to a facility with them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:26:12am

re: #161 Barefoot Grin

That’s important, I think, if it can be avoided.

I am not a church-goer anymore, but for my parents it’s been a life-saver. They are doing some volunteer work—delivering meals, doing maintenance at a local shelter—several times a week, and the congregation is a diverse mix of old and young (it’s also fairly progressive; the regressive members who don’t like the gays split and built their own church out in a cornfield where they don’t have to mix so much with society). My folks (dad is 90 and mom 83) are still friends with some of them, but they’re not confined to a facility with them.

That’s much better. Retirement communities provide a certain kind of security, but it’s an artificial community. Being part of a real, heterogeneous community is much better. My Mom liked hanging out with younger people (under 60s, that is) as much as spending time with her peers.

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Nyet  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:27:58am

I see wikileaks is in full defend-Putin-at-all-costs mode.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:28:54am

re: #162 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

For that matter, I’ve spent half my life teaching people younger than me. Now my students are 40 years younger than me (how the f did that happen!?), and I find I can still learn stuff from them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:29:44am

re: #163 Nyet

I see wikileaks is in full defend-Putin-at-all-costs mode.

Well, no surprise there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:38:29am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

This was a fate my mother sought to avoid. My dad toyed with the idea of retiring to some retirement community in Florida, until Mom put her foot down and said there was no way she was going to live with a bunch of old people. That ended the discussion.

My dear immigrant grandmother from Croatia (who lived on her own until the very end) once said “I not gonna live in old folks home, is like living in consternation camp!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:39:08am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My dear immigrant grandmother from Croatia (who lived on her own until the very end) once said “I not gonna live in old folks home, is like living in consternation camp!”

Well put, grandma from Croatia!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:41:27am

re: #154 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Hey! I’m a baby boomer! Just a sane one — mostly. :P

We of the warbaby cohort look down our noses on Boomers and their ill-disciplined spawn.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:42:43am

re: #164 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

For that matter, I’ve spent half my life teaching people younger than me. Now my students are 40 years younger than me (how the f did that happen!?), and I find I can still learn stuff from them.

Same here. Now my students are mostly 30 years younger, but they continue to surprise me. I kind of recoil whenever I hear sweeping generalization of “millennials” (I say “kind of” because I do it, too, sometimes).

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:43:03am

Morning Lizardim from the mild and cloudy wild north country. We’re anticipating some snow within the week; why it couldn’t wait until after the new year (when my contract finally ends and I don’t have to drive halfway to Wisconsin and back) is beyond me, but it’s probably Mother Nature’s last attempt to spite me. How go things among the lizardfolk on this somber pre-Thanksgiving morning?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:43:32am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My dear immigrant grandmother from Croatia (who lived on her own until the very end) once said “I not gonna live in old folks home, is like living in consternation camp!”

Ok, with that laugh, I’m going to go out and face the day!

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:46:11am

re: #163 Nyet

I see wikileaks is in full defend-Putin-at-all-costs mode.

Or as those who know what Wikileaks actually is call it, “Wednesday”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:48:07am

re: #171 Barefoot Grin

Ok, with that laugh, I’m going to go out and face the day!

Our family still chuckles about it. Along with her word for a sieve: “spaghetti stop, water go through”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:48:20am

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

Same here. Now my students are mostly 30 years younger, but they continue to surprise me. I kind of recoil whenever I hear sweeping generalization of “millennials” (I say “kind of” because I do it, too, sometimes).

For every apathetic millennial, there’s two or more who are not. My son (26) is volunteering for a reading project in Denver, and his pupil is a first grader. My daughter (29) volunteers at an animal shelter. Even my Chinese students are into community service work. One girl, from Inner Mongolia, didn’t go home this summer holiday, but spent the vacation in the countryside being a tutor to little kids.

I respect them much more than shits like UpChuck and Ben Shapiro.

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Belafon  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:48:39am

re: #138 Timothy Watson

Was this mentioned yesterday?

Emails reveal racists plotted confrontation with Black Lives Matters activists days before shooting

Caught GMA’s coverage of the shooting this morning. They never mentioned the video the shooters made, talked about the protest being there for a week, and mentioned that the family of the person killed by police has asked for the protest to end.

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:48:44am

I sat through this “song” that Wonkette so … thoughtfully … linked to and felt that I should share the, uh, experience. As Wonkette pointed out, the cognitive dissonance and sheer stupidity goes along way towards explaining the conservative, and I use the term quite loosely, mind.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:49:26am

re: #149 The Vicious Babushka

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A better question would be to ask why Donald Trump thinks its a smart idea to go after Karl Rove when Rove still is a major part of the Republican Party’s campaign and fundraising structure.

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:51:24am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

A better question would be to ask why Donald Trump thinks its a smart idea to go after Karl Rove when Rove still is a major part of the Republican Party’s campaign and fundraising structure.

Trump doesn’t think, he does. And, succeeds. Or, so he tells himself. He’s not really what one would call a team player. Eff-em, don’t need ‘em. I’m Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:51:42am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

A better question would be to ask why Donald Trump thinks its a smart idea to go after Karl Rove when Rove still is a major part of the Republican Party’s campaign and fundraising structure.

Because he knows he can pretty much say whatever he wants and it will not affect his chances of winning.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:54:40am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area on moving day (travel day before Thanksgiving). The commute was actually easier today given that everyone seems to be ready to head somewhere other than work. Good luck to everyone traveling this week; safe travels.

Meanwhile, the media continues sticking to its narratives.

Trump may be getting called a fascist from other conservatives/right wingers, but the problem is that Trump’s giving away their game. They too want draconian measures and big government imposing its will on personal decisions (like abortion and birth control) or national security - build walls, deport, and massive security efforts necessary to make deportation of illegal aliens possible.

And the demonization and dehumanization of those that oppose any such efforts.

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Nyet  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:55:58am

re: #176 Bird in the Paw

It’s like the whole thing was created by aliens.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:56:07am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

Low hanging fruit. Rove isn’t connected with any campaign, and yet he’s a tangential hit against someone like Jeb.

It’s a pain/consequence free attack. That’s why he’ll keep doing it.

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Nyet  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:58:28am

Remember, when American conservatives call people fascists, they usually mean leftists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 5:59:44am

re: #183 Nyet

Remember, when American conservatives call people fascists, they usually mean leftists.

because National “Socialism”…

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Nyet  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:01:47am

These are not savages.//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:03:23am

re: #185 Nyet

These are not savages.//

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They are just doing what Putin wants them to do: enact merciless revenge on those who would take up arms against them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:09:32am

BBC is reporting the downed Russian pilot is alive and well in Syria, but his co-pilot died. A marine involved in the rescue effort is also dead.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:20:29am

New in pages: This crazy stuff again.
Texas GOP Official Wants Secession on the Primary Ballot - Houston Chronicle

There is a Russian angle here, too.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:23:57am

Reminder: The GOP is the anti-science party:

Of the remaining GOP candidates, only Jeb and Christie are above water on climate change (if only barely). Carson and Trump are at the bottom of the heap. These are actual scientists rating the candidates on their positions. Not pundits.

The GOP doesn’t hold up to any kind of scrutiny.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:25:12am

re: #189 lawhawk

Reminder: The GOP is the anti-science party:

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Of the remaining GOP candidates, only Jeb and Christie are above water on climate change (if only barely). Carson and Trump are at the bottom of the heap. These are actual scientists rating the candidates on their positions. Not pundits.

The GOP doesn’t hold up to any kind of scrutiny.

I just paged that.

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makeitstop  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:34:30am

Here’s a great post by Driftglass, which includes a quote from ‘They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45’ that makes me really sad.

..It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.

“But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ‘43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ‘33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

“And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

“You have gone almost all the way yourself. Life is a continuing process, a flow, not a succession of acts and events at all. It has flowed to a new level, carrying you with it, without any effort on your part. On this new level you live, you have been living more comfortably every day, with new morals, new principles. You have accepted things you would not have accepted five years ago, a year ago, things that your father, even in Germany, could not have imagined.

“Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.

The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all.

I’ve been feeling like that more and more lately. Are we compromised beyond repair?

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:42:29am

This doesn’t seem like a good idea to me:

USB Controlled BB Sniper Rifle

The rational part of my brain looked at this USB-powered desktop “sniper rifle” and thought, “How childish and dumb can these little launchers get?” Unfortunately, the rational part has been overruled by both the inner-child and the lizard-parts of my brain who yearn for the simultaneous cool factor and fire-supremacy within the office (without needing real gunpowder or risking actual harm like this or this desktop cannon)

Like real field artillery, the AXniper is a one-shot wonder requiring reloading after each deployment. Fortunately, ammunition is cheap as it looks to take standard 6mm plastic airsoft BBs. Range is quoted as accurate up to 8 meters (roughly 25 feet). It will take a up a bit of desk space. Everything USB states it takes up 32 x 16 x 18 centimeters.

The bb howitzer interfaces with any windows computer via a standard USB port (separate power port needed). For those curious on ballistics, AXPro has put together some handy charts for long-range calculations. Armed with this formula, one can reach out and hit man-sized targets with roughly 50% chance of hitting them at 8 meters!

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:43:25am

re: #189 lawhawk

These are actual scientists rating the candidates on their positions. Not pundits..

But, we all know that these ‘scientists’ are really just shills for BigGreen® and raking in the cash from promoting apocalyptic climate prognoses.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:46:23am

Here’s a Blast-o from the Past-o

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:47:43am

And in Stories You Might Have Missed, the UK’s Strategic Defence and Security Review is Good News for the F-35:

The UK government has committed itself to the full programme-of-record of 138 Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft, as part of the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) released on 23 November.

Under the announcement the Royal Air Force (RAF) and Royal Navy (RN) are to get all of the short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) F-35Bs that they requested to equip the two Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carriers at sea and to replace the Panavia Tornado GR4 on land.

Under its previously held plans, the UK had committed itself to just 48 F-35s, of which only eight would be ready for use on the carriers by 2023 (the date that the full operating capability for both the ships and the aircraft were set to be declared). In pre-empting the government’s announcement for the first 42 jets to be procured at an accelerated rate (24 will be deployed on the carriers with 18 to be used for training), Chancellor George Osborne said that the 24 F-35s deployed aboard Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales would afford the UK the second most powerful carrier strike capability after the United States.

“We are going to step up the aircraft carrier punch of the United Kingdom. We are going to make sure that when these aircraft carriers are available, they are going to have planes that can fly from them in force,” he told the Sunday Times

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 6:51:04am

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel

New in pages: This crazy stuff again.
Texas GOP Official Wants Secession on the Primary Ballot - Houston Chronicle

There is a Russian angle here, too.

Odessa, Texas?

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ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:01:24am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

A better question would be to ask why Donald Trump thinks its a smart idea to go after Karl Rove when Rove still is a major part of the Republican Party’s campaign and fundraising structure.

Ahhh. There is one of the GOP’s problems. They have people that think Rove is still a major player in the party. He shouldn’t be.

But it is telling that if anyone considers Rove still viable they are not seeing the facts. Trump and the party base have proven Rove is not needed.

In some ways Trump and the base are also proving Ailes and FOX News are also on the way down. Not needed. They no longer provide the drugs the base needs. Trump does.

If Trump goes down or leaves the GOP party and goes independent, what will be left to the GOP party and all those they counted on that have been laid to waste by TRUMP®?

Scraps. Locally alive. Nationally dead. And that national problem will eat at the locals level too.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:02:56am

So I ordered a couple of books from Amazon Prime late yesterday afternoon, both books qualified for the next day free delivery deal. Decided with the holiday it would be cool to get them next day (today) rather than wait till Friday.

I expected them to arrive probably late this afternoon, early evening.

Went to drop the car off to be serviced at 7 this morning, and there were the books already.

Pretty impressed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:04:14am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s a Blast-o from the Past-o

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He’s more sane than Jeb is. I also think he’s smarter too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:05:32am

re: #197 ObserverArt

In some ways Trump and the base are also proving Ailes and FOX News are also on the way down. Not needed. They no longer provide the drugs the base needs. Trump does.

nailed it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:05:47am

re: #197 ObserverArt

Ahhh. There is one of the GOP’s problems. They have people that think Rove is still a major player in the party. He shouldn’t be.

But it is telling that if anyone considers Rove still viable they are not seeing the facts. Trump and the party base have proven Rove is not needed.

In some ways Trump and the base are also proving Ailes and FOX News are also on the way down. Not needed. They no longer provide the drugs the base needs. Trump does.

If Trump goes down or leaves the GOP party and goes independent, what will be left to the GOP party and all those they counted on that have been laid to waste by TRUMP(r)?

Scraps. Locally alive. Nationally dead. And that national problem will eat at the locals level too.

I think Trump sees Rove as symbolic of the old boy GOP establishment that Trump thinks is “disrespecting” him. As LH, he’s not formally part of any campaign but by attacking Rove, he does attack Bush and the other establishment guys without really losing much because who really outside the GOP insiders really genuinely likes Karl Rove.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:06:49am
“There’s some nastiness, there’s some meanness there. There’s something going on in the mosques and other places,” Trump said Tuesday, before asking why Obama “is so emphatic on not solving the problem?”

“There’s something we don’t know about. There’s something we don’t know about,” Trump said, before someone in the audience shouted, “He’s a Muslim!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:07:53am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

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Jesus fucking Christ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:09:28am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Jesus fucking Christ.

he plays his audience like a violin

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Dave In Austin  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:09:47am

This is all Bill Clinton’s fault….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:10:19am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

he plays his audience like a violin

That he does. He knows exactly how to push their bigot button.

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ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:11:25am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

he plays his audience like a violin

That is because he already knows all the tunes they like to hear. It is a small catalog.

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Lidane  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:11:27am

ICYMI, this happened:

Captain America: Civil War - Trailer World Premiere

Dear Marvel,

Shut up and keep taking my money. Wow.

All my love,
Me

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:13:06am

re: #208 Lidane

The Mrs. is all like - who the heck are we supposed to root for?

My response? Kevin Feige.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:13:09am

re: #207 ObserverArt

That is because he already knows all the tunes they like to hear. It is a small catalog.

Yeah he knows exactly what they want to hear.

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Black d20  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:13:18am

re: #208 Lidane

Hngh, that sure was some T’Challa.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:17:56am

Heh.

Trump says he’s got the world’s greatest memory, but can’t remember exactly where he saw the 1000s and 1000s celebrating on 9/11.

Oh, and he can predict the future too.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:20:31am

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

“There’s some nastiness, there’s some meanness there. There’s something going on in the Tea Party, in the right wing blogs mosques and other places,” Trump said Tuesday

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:21:16am

re: #212 lawhawk

Heh.

Trump says he’s got the world’s greatest memory, but can’t remember exactly where he saw the 1000s and 1000s celebrating on 9/11.

Oh, and he can predict the future too.

There are a bunch of easily suggestible assheads who claim WEE SAW IT TOO!!!!1!!!!

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ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:21:43am

re: #212 lawhawk

Heh.

Trump says he’s got the world’s greatest memory, but can’t remember exactly where he saw the 1000s and 1000s celebrating on 9/11.

Oh, and he can predict the future too.

So, he already knows he is going to be President of the United States.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:21:45am

re: #197 ObserverArt

In some ways Trump and the base are also proving Ailes and FOX News are also on the way down. Not needed. They no longer provide the drugs the base needs.

Sell outs. Not severely conservative enough.

half sarc/

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Danack  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:23:04am

re: #1 Barefoot Grin

It’s not that they don’t care. He’s just confirming what they already believe.

btw Trump’s current polling? 27%.

/that number, yet again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:25:03am

(Looking at you, CNN…)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:26:22am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(Looking at you, CNN…)

WTF.

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ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:27:01am

re: #214 The Vicious Babushka

There are a bunch of easily suggestible assheads who claim WEE SAW IT TOO!!!!1!!!!

Remember all that crap back in the early 70s about mind control? The ability to implant thoughts and control people with those thoughts.

Trump does.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:30:08am

Good morning fellow Lizards. Since I probably won’t be around to say so tomorrow, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:32:01am

re: #221 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Good morning fellow Lizards. Since I probably won’t be around to say so tomorrow, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

You’ll be around. You love LGF. You need LGF. LGF cures everything.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:34:12am

re: #197 ObserverArt

Rove set this monster in place, and like the classic story, it’s out of his control. Fuck him. I hope he fades into obscurity and has to worry about how to pay his bills. He did this to himself, and worse, to the country. This legacy he created with the Lee Atwater model will be hurting us long after Rove “retires” or whatever the fuck happens to him. There’s really no rash bad enough for me to wish on his nether regions. This country needs vocal right wingers to put a stop to this mess, and they have shown no leadership except to wring their hands and half ass whine about it. People are getting hurt and killed from this level of hate and it needs to stop. Now.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:34:46am

re: #222 I Would Prefer Not To

You’ll be around. You love LGF. You need LGF. LGF cures everything.

LOL. I may check in but between copious amounts of food and playing Assassin’s Creed Syndicate I will be pretty busy lol.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:36:55am

Dana haz a rage

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:38:56am

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

Dana haz a rage

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Why does Dana hate the free market???

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:41:05am

To update on the Minneapolis shooting of BLM protesters. All 3 suspects now in custody are, in fact, white thugs.

Minneapolis police said Tuesday that they have arrested three men in connection with the shooting. Allen Lawrence “Lance” Scarsella III, 23, was arrested in Bloomington. Sources said Nathan Gustavsson, 21, of Hermantown, and Daniel Macey, 26, of Pine City, were taken into custody after they turned themselves in. All three suspects are white. Earlier Tuesday, police arrested a 32-year-old Hispanic man in south Minneapolis, but he was later released because, police said, he was not at the scene of the shooting.

Authorities are weighing whether to treat Monday’s shooting as a hate crime, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

Not only should it be treated as a hate crime, but as domestic terrorism. Alas, we know that it’s likely to be an uphill battle to call it a hate crime (even though there’s video showing the suspects engaging in premeditation to commit acts of violence against the protesters), let alone domestic terrorism, even though that was the intended outcome - to terrorize the protesters into silence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:41:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:42:53am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:43:06am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why does Dana hate the free market???

Dana can’t take her GUNZ on an aircraft and she has to defend herself from hijackers! And now they are charging extra for her Doberman!

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:43:11am

re: #227 lawhawk

BUTBUTBUT WHITE BOYS CAN’T BE THUGS!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:47:49am

re: #231 thedopefishlives

BUTBUTBUT WHITE BOYS CAN’T BE THUGS!!!

They arrested the white guys but let the Hispanic go! You see? Reverse racism is alive and well in Obama’s America!!!

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It's on his hat!  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:49:15am

re: #227 lawhawk

As we saw with the Applebee’s beatdown of the Muslim woman, Minnesota’s hate crime statutes are wonky and stupid, so I won’t be surprised if it is not charged as a hate crime.

However, I really, really want domestic terrorism charges to happen here. Based on the story linked above, these guys are race realist/MRA/anti-feminist jackholes who need to be held up as an example for that “movement.”

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:52:02am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:52:57am

re: #233 It’s on his hat!

Hopefully the videos these freaking dumbasses made will help with the charges. They’re saying what they planned to do. And maybe, if the gods are smiling upon us, investigators can get these idiots to turn on each other somehow.

And to think these are the only guys plotting like this, right now, today, is foolish. The hate is at a fever pitch right now. This isn’t going away any time soon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:57:23am

AAAAAND who does Ben Of The Corn blame for the Laquan McDonald shooting?

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blueraven  Nov 25, 2015 • 7:58:07am

Obama to speak on National Security within the hour.

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It's on his hat!  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:00:43am

re: #235 A Mom Anon

Governor Dayton has called for the protests to end for the “safety” of the protestors, which is just a bunch of shit. I like our governor, but he’s a bit of a coward on stuff like this. He should be out there with these people, showing solidarity, not asking them to disperse and give the terrorists what they want.

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Franklin  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:00:55am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

AAAAAND who does Ben Of The Corn blame for the Laquan McDonald shooting?

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Can’t imagine his take on the justification angle will go over well with the Breitbrat comments section.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:01:10am

Wow, links still coming in from all over - Slate, Cnet, The Week, CNN, Quartz, Daily Kos, Reddit, etc. etc.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:01:41am

re: #240 Charles Johnson

Wow, links still coming in from all over - Slate, Cnet, The Week, CNN, Quartz, Daily Kos, Reddit, etc. etc.

Mr. Irrelevant strikes again I see.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:02:34am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:03:19am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

AAAAAND who does Ben Of The Corn blame for the Laquan McDonald shooting?

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He’s lying again. Rahm Emmanuel is getting lots of criticism for this.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:03:20am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:04:03am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

That mayor isn’t going to have the mass of liberal support in Ben’s fevered imagination. People are pissed off about this and I don’t think they’re going to forget it. The system failed this kid from beginning to end. He was a foster kid, killed by a state agent. And if Benny Boy really thinks a Republican wouldn’t have ever done anything like this he’s full of shit. But we know that already. What a rancid little bag of slime.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:04:34am

re: #243 Charles Johnson

He’s lying again. Rahm Emmanuel is getting lots of criticism for this.

Don’t interfere with the narrative. HURR HURR LIBRULS ALWAYS GETS TEH FREE PASS!!!!1!!!!!

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blueraven  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:06:11am

re: #243 Charles Johnson

He’s lying again. Rahm Emmanuel is getting lots of criticism for this.

He is. But it is just more deflection anyway. Look! Over there! A Democrat!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:06:45am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart

Pisses me off though that the media had to focus on this for the whole week.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:06:57am

LOL

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It's on his hat!  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:07:05am

startribune.com

4chan. My surprise, let me show you it.

Also, the three involved in the shooting are from cities that are all quite far apart from each other. Isn’t it great how the Internet brings us all together?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:08:22am

re: #243 Charles Johnson

He’s lying again. Rahm Emmanuel is getting lots of criticism for this.

At my gym this morning I saw the screen they had FOX Noise on and they were practically crowing about the video being blocked by a DEMOCRATIC government in Chicago. Couldn’t hear the audio but almost wondering if they are treating this shooting differently for just that reason, the person in charge of the city is a Democrat.

Also, Rahm and the city deserve the scorn being heaped on them, they knew about this for a long time.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:08:59am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

AAAAAND who does Ben Of The Corn blame for the Laquan McDonald shooting?

its the Democrats fault theyre the racists but Black Lives Matter still sux and their brownshirts for Obama!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:09:04am

re: #243 Charles Johnson

He’s lying again. Rahm Emmanuel is getting lots of criticism for this.

From the left. Though the left has never liked Rahm that much.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:09:58am

re: #252 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

its the Democrats fault theyre the racists but Black Lives Matter still sux and their brownshirts for Obama!!!

Leave it to Ben or Dim Jim to find a HURR HURR DEMOCRAP!!!!1!!! to blame things on.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:10:08am

The Navy is set to add the Ford to the fleet, giving it 11 carriers able to deploy. The Ford has a bunch of new tech, including electromagnetic catapults that allow the ship to not only launch more aircraft, but makes it easier on the airframes and can dial down the launch acceleration to minimize stress on even UAVs - extending capabilities further.

The power generation systems also allow the ship to eventually be fitted with electronic rail guns that allow over the horizon firepower capability (reducing reliance on even cruise missiles that cost more to fire).

It also reduces manpower requirements, which is a huge chunk of the overall cost of operating a carrier.

Of course, all this tech isn’t cheap.

The new carrier costs $13 billion. And some defense experts question building a new carrier class at a time when the Chinese are working on over the horizon carrier killer cruise missiles that include stealth capabilities, while others question the need for the carrier at a time with fewer actual conflicts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:10:25am

re: #245 A Mom Anon

That mayor isn’t going to have the mass of liberal support in Ben’s fevered imagination. People are pissed off about this and I don’t think they’re going to forget it. The system failed this kid from beginning to end. He was a foster kid, killed by a state agent. And if Benny Boy really thinks a Republican wouldn’t have ever done anything like this he’s full of shit. But we know that already. What a rancid little bag of slime.

Republicans have done stuff like this. That Ben wants to make this a partsian issue instead of what it is tells one how craven the little fuckweed is.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:10:33am

Stolen from Facebook

Turkey
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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:10:46am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

Leave it to Ben or Dim Jim to find a HURR HURR DEMOCRAP!!!!1!!! to blame things on.

They blame everything on Democrats so why not this.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:10:47am

re: #243 Charles Johnson

He’s lying again. Rahm Emmanuel is getting lots of criticism for this.

Yeah but Ben Shapiro says Rahm is getting no criticism because he’s a Democrat Party. So we should believe whatever Ben Shapiro says no matter what.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:12:36am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

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Bird in the Paw  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:13:25am

re: #212 lawhawk

Oh, and he [Trump] can predict the future too.

And, when and where a terrorist attack will be. Though, while that may be a sub-set of predicting the future, it should be explicitly noted.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:13:32am

Did she come when you called her?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:14:17am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Did she come when you called her?

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What the hell is that tweet even supposed to mean?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:15:38am

re: #263 thedopefishlives

What the hell is that tweet even supposed to mean?

I have no idea. HE’s trying to be funny but he sounds even more stupid than usual. Apparently it was consensual if she was okay with it, does Steve not know English?

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It's on his hat!  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:15:40am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Pretty sure Steve’s wife never comes

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:16:10am

re: #265 It’s on his hat!

Pretty sure Steve’s wife never comes

Not when he’s around.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:16:12am

re: #265 It’s on his hat!

Pretty sure Steve’s wife never comes

Oh, she does, just not with him.///

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calochortus  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:16:34am

re: #263 thedopefishlives

What the hell is that tweet even supposed to mean?

It’s supposed to mean that it’s A-OK to treat all women the way you want. Because.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:16:46am

re: #263 thedopefishlives

Conservative humor is based on telling people with an actual grievance that their grievance is nonsense.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:17:17am

re: #269 jaunte

Conservative humor is based on telling people with an actual grievance that their grievance is nonsense.

Yep.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:17:38am

re: #268 calochortus

It’s supposed to mean that it’s A-OK to treat all women the way you want. Because.

“My wife smiled when I did an asshole thing” is not grounds to do that asshole thing to anyone else.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:18:01am

re: #263 thedopefishlives

What the hell is that tweet even supposed to mean?

HURR HURR I JUST SAID IT TO PISS OF TEH SJW!!!!!!!!!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:18:15am

re: #260 lawhawk

Just for the halibut, I clicked on the Google search in your tweet, and there isn’t a whole lot of criticism of Rahm Emanuel.

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Nojay UK  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:18:25am

re: #255 lawhawk

The new carrier costs $13 billion. And some defense experts question building a new carrier class at a time when the Chinese are working on over the horizon carrier killer cruise missiles that include stealth capabilities, while others question the need for the carrier at a time with fewer actual conflicts.

The time to start worrying would be when the Chinese deploy functional hunter-killer subs with good crews at which point the Ford and her sisters become targets which WILL be sunk in a shooting war. There’s nothing magical about subs, they’ve been sinking large capital ships for a hundred years and more and a well-handled sub with an aggressive driver will get in and do the job and get out again quite often too.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:18:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:19:17am

re: #249 The Vicious Babushka

No One voted for Obama just because he’s Black. We voted for him because he was the best man for the job promised us free stuffs!!!

FTFT (fixed that for Trump)

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:19:50am

Just heard this morning & am beyond words that Trump requested his people start calling the cops on their Muslim neighbors.

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calochortus  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:20:06am

re: #271 thedopefishlives

“My wife smiled when I did an asshole thing” is not grounds to do that asshole thing to anyone else.

Heck, it could even be a private joke between them. Private jokes often don’t play well in the wider world, even when they are innocuous. This? Even less so.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:20:37am

LOL my boss just told everybody to get their ass out of here by 2:00.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:20:53am

re: #277 Stanley Sea Toujours

Just heard this morning & am beyond words that Trump requested his people start calling the cops on their Muslim neighbors.

As if the cops don’t already have enough to deal with, like, say, hunting down and arresting white supremacists running around shooting protesters.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:22:29am

re: #273 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Just for the halibut, I clicked on the Google search in your tweet, and there isn’t a whole lot of criticism of Rahm Emanuel.

I don’t know what you were reading, but I see lots of criticism of Emmanuel in the articles on that Google page.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:23:05am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

LOL my boss just told everybody to get their ass out of here by 2:00.

I’ve done that. Works best when there is a four day weekend looming. I also never closed on Black Friday (it was an optional day), but it was my chance to have the factory to myself and have an excuse not to drive around the malls.

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Franklin  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:23:12am

re: #257 I Would Prefer Not To

Stolen from Facebook

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Thanks, just sent that to the host for my tday tomorrow!

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Dave In Austin  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:24:47am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

LOL my boss just told everybody to get their ass out of here by 2:00.

Traditional Amer. Holiday Season starts at Noon for us… Happy T-day VB

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:25:29am

re: #255 lawhawk

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The Navy is set to add the Ford to the fleet, giving it 11 carriers able to deploy

The Ford won’t be handed over until next April-May. And isn’t scheduled to begin Initial Operational Test & Evaluation until 2017.
By the time she is deployable we will likely be in a new presidential election cycle.

That is unless President Trump suspends the Constitution

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:29:32am

re: #281 Charles Johnson

I don’t know what you were reading, but I see lots of criticism of Emmanuel in the articles on that Google page.

That’s the thing. If I look at the links and the little text bits attached, there is little that tells me that this link is to a story about somebody telling Emanuel to resign. If I’m looking for one of those stories, the only one that would lead me to click on it was the very top one with the CNN link, and only then because I saw it myself on CNN last night. the little text bit just says “City officials haven’t been immune to criticism themselves” leading me to infer that Emanuel is criticized in the piece.
For all I know the search result is dynamic and is different now than from when lawhowk put it up.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:39:10am

re: #260 lawhawk

Ben would have to read all the way down to the second half of the USA Today story to see the criticism of Emanuel.
usatoday.com

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:39:40am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Did she come when you called her?

Steven Crowder is such a comedian. Such a wise policy analyst, too.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:40:47am

re: #208 Lidane

Indeed. That looks really fucking awesome.

Oh, and here’s one for people already tired of Christmas.

Krampus - Official Trailer (HD)

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Jenner7  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:40:55am

Ugh. I wish it was Monday.

Things to accomplish today: Pumpkin pies, sugar cookies, and prepare bread for stuffing.

Hope ya’ll are having a good morning. ;)

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:43:08am

re: #290 Jenner7

Ugh. I wish it was Monday.

Things to accomplish today: Pumpkin pies, sugar cookies, and prepare bread for stuffing.

Hope ya’ll are having a good morning. ;)

I have to pack up & hit the road. ugh. I just feel like staying in my pj’s.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:43:20am

*VOMITS*
Thanksgiving recipe in spoiler tags.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:43:41am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

NOPE.

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Jenner7  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:44:21am

re: #291 Stanley Sea Toujours

Safe travels, Stanley…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:45:20am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

*VOMITS*
Thanksgiving recipe in spoiler tags.

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It’s a Southern thing.
For real.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:45:38am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

*VOMITS*
Thanksgiving recipe in spoiler tags.

[Embedded content]

WHy………………………..

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:45:47am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

Jell-O served cold

What radical innovation is this?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:46:23am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

UrpX2

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:46:45am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

*VOMITS*
Thanksgiving recipe in spoiler tags.

[Embedded content]

gag

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A Cranky One  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:47:08am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

WHy………………………..

It’s good ammo for the food fight. Messy but unlikely to cause injury. Unless it’s actually eaten, of course.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:47:17am

Tan, semi-opaque Jello not appetizing.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:47:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:48:05am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

*VOMITS*
Thanksgiving recipe in spoiler tags.

[Embedded content]

Also, why do they say “Jello served cold”?
If it’s not cold, it’s freaking liquid.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:48:05am

re: #215 ObserverArt

So, he already knows he is going to be President of the United States.

So do I.

The Missiles Are Flying - The Dead Zone (9/10) Movie CLIP (1983) HD

ETA: Sorry. Pasted wrong link. Oy. You would think three mugs of coffee would be enough. And as always the one time forget to check my links is the time I get it wrong.

Oy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:48:14am

I like Jello and I like mayo but I don’t want them togther.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:48:33am

re: #302 jaunte

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Hah Igor and me are on the same plane today.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:49:40am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nothing like a big steaming mug of Jello.

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Snarknado!  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:50:18am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

Eeeew. (I have pumpkin pie.)

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nines09  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:52:17am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

*VOMITS*
Thanksgiving recipe in spoiler tags.

[Embedded content]

Tripe. It’s not just for breakfast anymore.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:53:29am

re: #263 thedopefishlives

What the hell is that tweet even supposed to mean?

I wonder if it’s about a recent blog post on HuffPo:

huffingtonpost.com

I think the crux is that “we’re really not into your knuckle-dragging bullshit, but we often play along because some men become crazy, unhinged assholes when called on it.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:53:57am

Here is Babushka’s Baked Sweet Potatoes recipe:

4 Sweet Potatoes, scrubbed & split
Salt
Pepper
Olive Oil
Rosemary sprigs

Heat oven to 350° Arrange sweet potatoes in baking dish. Sprinkle with salt & pepper, drizzle with olive oil. Bake for 45 min or until potatoes are soft.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:54:26am

re: #289 Romantic Heretic

Indeed. That looks really fucking awesome.

Oh, and here’s one for people already tired of Christmas.

[Embedded content]

Already have this in my Netflix DVD que
A Christmas Horror Story -TRAILER

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:54:34am

re: #289 Romantic Heretic

Indeed. That looks really fucking awesome.

Oh, and here’s one for people already tired of Christmas.

[Embedded content]

Video

Must. See. Krampus!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 25, 2015 • 8:55:11am

re: #312 FormerDirtDart

Already have this in my Netflix DVD que
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Wish that one was streaming.

Another good one is Santa Slay with Bill Goldberg.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:03:11am

re: #6 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:04:30am

He speaking about national security.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:04:39am

re: #315 Ace-o-aces

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That’s pretty much what always happens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:05:35am
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:05:49am

I see hanging out with neo-Nazi has finally gotten CCJ to full on anti-semitism. I suspect he’ll be divorcing his hot Asian wife soon to find a proper white girl.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:06:41am

re: #319 Ace-o-aces

Eastern and Southern European Jews were terrorists? What the hell kind of history books has that boy been reading?

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b.d.  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:06:57am

Can we please retire the term homeland?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:08:07am

re: #319 Ace-o-aces

I see hanging out with neo-Nazi has finally gotten CCJ to full on anti-semitism. I suspect he’ll be divorcing his hot Asian wife soon to find a proper white girl.

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Proper Aryan girl you mean. That one really pissed me off. My great grandparents on my mom’s side emigrated from Eastern Europe in that era and most of their sons ended up serving in WWII or in my grandpa’s case, Korea. Oh nm, I see he’s just talking about Jews there. But it’s still fucked up and I’lll also point out that Anne and her family were German not Eastern European.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:08:22am

more disgusting mayo jello salad

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:08:30am

re: #321 b.d.

Is Forefathersland too long?

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b.d.  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:09:08am

re: #319 Ace-o-aces

I see hanging out with neo-Nazi has finally gotten CCJ to full on anti-semitism. I suspect he’ll be divorcing his hot Asian wife soon to find a proper white girl.

[Embedded content]

If today’s bedwetting bagger wingnuts had Twitter years ago:

SHE’S HIDING IN THE ATTIC!

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:10:59am

re: #320 thedopefishlives

Eastern and Southern European Jews were terrorists? What the hell kind of history books has that boy been reading?

alt.nazi.history
alt.white.nationalism
alt.shitzenfloren

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:11:41am

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:12:02am

You know what group had a lot of terrorists in the 20’s? White native born Protestants. Talking of course about the KKK.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:12:53am
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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:13:48am

Why is the Pope declaring war on Christmas?

Oh, you mean getting away from ostentatious displays and ignoring the faith element of the holiday. Yeah, the Pope’ll be ignored on that front, especially from the likes of nitwits who attack Starbucks for not including sufficient pagan symbols on its disposable red cups (but I repeat myself).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:14:15am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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He’s even more pathetic than I thought. I got this book for my brother a couple Christmases back. Fascinating read into life in the Americas before Columbus.
amazon.com

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Timothy Watson  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:16:07am

re: #329 jaunte

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Can I call it the Rodina?

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Jay C  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:17:51am

re: #320 thedopefishlives

Eastern and Southern European Jews were terrorists? What the hell kind of history books has that boy been reading?

Maybe some the contemporary ones from the turn of the previous century - where immigrant Eastern-European Jews were generally assumed to have a predilection for “radical” views: i.e. in addition to being generic Dirty Foreigners (and not even Christian!), they were prone to being Socialist/Communist/Bolshevik/Anarchist/Terrorists (terms were interchangable)and so ought to be kept out.
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Kind of like how today’s wingnuts view Moslems (and probably Jews, too)…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:19:09am

re: #333 Jay C

Maybe some the contemporary ones from the turn of the previous century - where immigrant Eastern-European Jews were generally assumed to have a predilection for “radical” views: i.e. in addition to being generic Dirty Foreigners (and not even Christian!), they were prone to being Socialist/Communist/Bolshevik/Anarchist/Terrorists (terms were interchangable)and so ought to be kept out.
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Kind of like how today’s wingnuts view Moslems (and probably Jews, too)…

There was a lot of racism there. Heck, I saw a copy of a census where my great grandfather was listed as mulatto for some reason.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:20:42am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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Jesus, he even throws in a “red-face” caricatured alcoholic “indian”. But, you know, liberals are the real racists.

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sagehen  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:22:05am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

I’lll also point out that Anne and her family were German not Eastern European.

Um… weren’t they Dutch?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:22:30am

re: #335 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, he even throws in a “red-face” caricatured alcoholic “indian”. But, you know, liberals are the real racists.

On behalf of all people my generation, I apologize for this sorry asshole. I don’t get the point of this shit spiel. Is it supposed to make Crowder feel better about being a white of European descent? Wonder how he’d feel if it was pointed out to him that the Muslim world was prospering during the Dark Ages.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:23:16am

re: #336 sagehen

Um… weren’t they Dutch?

No, they were German. They fled to the Netherlands. Ann Frank’s father Otto in act was a WWI veteran.
en.wikipedia.org
In fact, I see now they were from Frankfurt near where my German relations were from.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:23:39am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

I love these big manly men on the internet. Let’s take his ass up to the reservation and see what he has to say to a couple hundred Indians.

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Snarknado!  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:23:57am

re: #336 sagehen

No, they emigrated from Germany to Holland because of the Nazis.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:24:33am

re: #337 HappyWarrior

On behalf of all people my generation, I apologize for this sorry asshole. I don’t get the point of this shit spiel. Is it supposed to make Crowder feel better about being a white of European descent? Wonder how he’d feel if it was pointed out to him that the Muslim world was prospering during the Dark Ages.

He is PROUD to be an Asshole-American and if he has pissed off a SJW his day is made. I think it’s super extra racist and sexist to hate on Single Jewish Women but whatever.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:25:21am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

He is PROUD to be an Asshole-American and if he has pissed off a SJW his day is made. I think it’s super extra racist and sexist to hate on Single Jewish Women but whatever.

He doesn’t even piss me off. He just amuses me because he thinks he’s offending “uptight liberals” but he’s actually showing why conservatives like him are assholes and not funny.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:26:03am

re: #340 Snarknado!

No, they emigrated from Germany to Holland because of the Nazis.

Right. Understandable mistake of course.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:27:41am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

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It's on his hat!  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:27:56am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

He is PROUD to be an Asshole-American and if he has pissed off a SJW his day is made. I think it’s super extra racist and sexist to hate on Single Jewish Women but whatever.

SJW = Social Justice Warrior

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:28:23am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

FULL VIDEO! PROOFS!!

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:28:50am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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European didn’t use the wheel either until it was brought to them from——Guess where?——-the Middle East and Central Asia.

Also, we have this very important point about the absence of wheels in pre-Columbian America:

It is thought that the primary obstacle to large-scale development of the wheel in the Western hemisphere was the absence of domesticated large animals which could be used to pull wheeled carriages.

Of course, racist RWNJs can now just claim that their Aryan European ancestors invented the donkey and the horse. Hey, if Trump can claim he saw hordes of Muslims celebrating 9/11 in Jersey, anything is possible..

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:28:53am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

He doesn’t even piss me off. He just amuses me because he thinks he’s offending “uptight liberals” but he’s actually showing why conservatives like him are assholes and not funny.

Catering to a mean-spirited niche market full of DIY “humorists” copying Limbaugh, and lack of any other saleable talent means he will always struggle to make a living and will never ever be a success as a comedian.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:29:00am

re: #345 It’s on his hat!

SJW = Social Justice Warrior

because heaven forbid anyone seek justice in the world.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:29:49am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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Conservative humor!
e_e

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:30:11am

re: #344 GlutenFreeJesus

This just made my day

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Jay C  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:30:18am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

There was a lot of racism there. Heck, I saw a copy of a census where my great grandfather was listed as mulatto for some reason.

You know which census? Or why great-granddad was so listed? I’m guessing it may have been(?)1920? 1930? Immigration policy in the 1920’s was pretty much racism-based all the way down: there was a reason why the quotas set in place after 1924 were restrictively based on the “national origins” data from the Census of 1890: they figured it would keep the numbers of Italians and Jews down, among others.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:30:31am

re: #348 jaunte

Catering to a mean-spirited niche market full of DIY “humorists” copying Limbaugh, and lack of any other saleable talent means he will always struggle to make a living and will never ever be a success as a comedian.

Right as VB says, he’s just a plagiarist who steals from Rush’s schtick. Rush has had some ignorant comments about Native Americans as well. But remember liberals are the real racists because of what the parties were in the 1860’s.//

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:31:41am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:32:12am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Right as VB says, he’s just a plagiarist who steals from Rush’s schtick. Rush has had some ignorant comments about Native Americans as well. But remember liberals are the real racists because of what the parties were in the 1860’s.//

Hurr hurr were just making a joke how come you libtards can’t take a joke and HOW DARE YOU JOKE ABOUT MY CONFEDERATE FLAG HERITAGE!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:32:27am

re: #348 jaunte

Catering to a mean-spirited niche market full of DIY “humorists” copying Limbaugh, and lack of any other saleable talent means he will always struggle to make a living and will never ever be a success as a comedian.

None of his shtick is original, it’s all plagiarized from shit Rush said, right down to HURR HURR SANDRA SLUTBABE FLUKE’S WANT ALL TEH BIRTH CONTROLS SO SHE CAN DO SEXYTIMES FOREVER!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:32:51am

re: #352 Jay C

You know which census? Or why great-granddad was so listed? I’m guessing it may have been(?)1920? 1930? Immigration policy in the 1920’s was pretty much racism-based all the way down: there was a reason why the quotas set in place after 1924 were restrictively based on the “national origins” data from the Census of 1890: they figured it would keep the numbers of Italians and Jews down, among others.

1910. But yeah the quota was passed in 1924 I believe which was two years after his second wife (my great grandmother) came over.

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Franklin  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:33:14am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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When I saw that tweet, here was my interpretation:

Happy Thanksgiving! By the way, Native Americans didn’t even use the wheel, therefore….

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:33:23am

re: #354 FormerDirtDart

TRUMPS BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:33:41am

re: #354 FormerDirtDart

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How the fuck is this not terrorism or an arrest worthy offense.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:34:48am

re: #354 FormerDirtDart

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Is it legal to wear a mask in public in Montana?

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Franklin  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:34:48am

re: #360 HappyWarrior

How the fuck is this not terrorism or an arrest worthy offense.

Because America thats why.

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It's on his hat!  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:35:08am

re: #349 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It’s got about the same meaning as “politically correct,” and it’s a dogwhistle for certain groups in the same way.

SJW used to be a pejorative for someone who “fights” for “social justice” for some oddball cause or minority group — and by fight, it usually meant posting rants on tumblr or YouTube.

It’s rapidly evolved into a much broader pejorative for anyone who actually fights for social justice for women and minorities in meaningful ways, with the same connotations of whining and ineptitude.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:35:10am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:35:29am

re: #355 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Hurr hurr were just making a joke how come you libtards can’t take a joke and HOW DARE YOU JOKE ABOUT MY CONFEDERATE FLAG HERITAGE!!!!

IT really is just stnadard conservative hypocrisy. Claim liberals are uptight but then they get outraged because a stranger wishes them a happy fucking holidays.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:35:55am

re: #354 FormerDirtDart

A Muslim woman walking to the mosque followed by an armed protestor in Texas They stalk Muslims at Texas Mosque #USA pic.twitter.com
— M Barak Cherguia

Don’t these people have jobs?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:37:08am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

IT really is just stnadard conservative hypocrisy. Claim liberals are uptight but then they get outraged because a stranger wishes them a happy fucking holidays.

Ben Shapiro:
Hurr hurr libtards no sense of humor can’t take joke and WHITE MEN CANT EVEN GO TO COLLEGE ANYMORE OPPRESSED!!!

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:37:15am

They used them in toys. Larger wheels are actually kind-of useless without large draft animals to haul them. Again, can’t expect Crowder to know this, since that would require reading.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:37:41am

re: #366 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

They’re professional ‘cringers-in-fear’

But back on the sidewalk, a man who wore a name tag that read “Big Daddy Infidel” and was afraid to give his full name worried about the day he would be forced to use his hunting rifle to take a human life.

“You know, I hope 10 years from now, we just stood out here and froze to say what we wanted to say, and nothing ever came of it on either side,” he said quietly. “I hope the supplies I have in my house, the food and the water and medical supplies, I have to use up in my retirement years.”

But, he concluded, “This stuff is among us. People are blind if they don’t think it is.”
thescoopblog.dallasnews.com

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:38:08am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

#StopWhitePeopleFromTouchingFood

I’m dying…

That’s why they told you not to touch the food!
Jeez.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:38:23am

of course…

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:38:52am

Random thought, Native Americans and wheels:

Custer didn’t use Gatling guns because he thought their WHEELED carriages would slow him down.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:39:21am

re: #369 jaunte

They’re professional ‘cringers-in-fear’

WHAT ABOUT MAH FREE SPEECH AND IM SO TERRIFIED OF JADE HELM AND MUSLINS I HAVE STOCKED MY HOUSE FULL OF FOOD AND GUNZ AND DARE YOU TO COME GET THEM!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:39:33am

Jeebus he is stupider than fuck

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:39:46am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course…

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We heard all kinds of shit that day.
The thing I remember the most were reports of a car bomb at the DoJ.
Most of it was bunk.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:41:16am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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How does it #$#$#$#$ matter if Native Americans use the wheel or not? Genocide is ok for non wheeling using people only. What a fucking idiot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:42:11am
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b.d.  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:43:14am

THEY DIDN’T EVEN USE A WHEEL!!!

well, they did use a wheel after all but THEY NEVER USED THE WHEEL AS A WORKING TOOL!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:43:32am

re: #376 I Would Prefer Not To

How does it #$#$#$#$ matter if Native Americans use the wheel or not? Genocide is ok for non wheeling using people only. What a fucking idiot.

He’s getting his “history” from Ayn Rand

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:43:35am

re: #373 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Depressing. Some guy out there worries about Muslim Insurrection, and then thinks about using up his Oh Well Muslim Insurrection Didn’t Happen emergency supplies as food after he retires.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:43:46am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“He also plans to defeat ISIS by going back in time.”

He’s got my vote.

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ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:44:02am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

He just can’t stop himself from being an asshole for even one day==>

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Of course the blockhead had to have the Native American hitting the bottle.

I know you say he always copies Rushbo, but he copies all the bad historic cliches too. There is not an original bone in that boy’s body.

Maybe that is why he is liked by the RWNJs (If he is?). Well-worn nasty material they all know already.

And what is up with all the over-done facial and head movements? Did he go to clown school or something?

Yeah, I know he is a clown…but…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:44:16am

Why does it matter to him that if they had the wheel or not? It doesn’t excuse the genocide and generations of mistreatment of the Native-American people. Crowder jumped the shark on being a stupid wingnut fuckwad with that bit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:44:59am

re: #380 jaunte

Depressing. Some guy out there worries about Muslim Insurrection, and then thinks about using up his Oh Well Muslim Insurrection Didn’t Happen emergency supplies as food after he retires.

That shit will be long expired by the time he realizes he’s being ignorant. Good luck to him and his bowels.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:45:04am

re: #379 The Vicious Babushka

He’s getting his “history” from Ayn Rand

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Says a woman who of course spent her waning years on government assistance. Ayn Rand was not only a proponent of one of the most bigoted philosophies ever developed in the U.S, she was also a fucking hypocrite too.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:45:39am

re: #381 Not a Sparkly Vampire

“He also plans to defeat ISIS by going back in time.”

He’s got my vote.

What’s he gonna do? Kill Sterling Archer? Lana Kane? Really?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:45:44am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course…

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God to think I used to think Rudy Giuliani was sane.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:46:14am

re: #354 FormerDirtDart

She’d be fully within her rights to shoot that guy in self defense.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:46:55am

re: #386 lawhawk

What’s he gonna do? Kill Sterling Archer? Lana Kane? Really?

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Hey, where’s Pam? BLASPHEMER!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:48:12am

re: #386 lawhawk

What’s he gonna do? Kill Sterling Archer? Lana Kane? Really?

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Who cares, I’m getting a pony!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:48:56am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

Why does it matter to him that if they had the wheel or not?

Because he’s stupid and mean.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:49:40am

re: #391 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Because he’s stupid and mean.

He’s a typical privileged right wing brat who doesn’t dare to empathize with other people and their experiences because that would mean actually having to try to be a decent person.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:49:53am

re: #389 GlutenFreeJesus

Hey, is this better?

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:54:11am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

Why does it matter to him that if they had the wheel or not?

Because he couldn’t in a million years conceive of a wheel, and he’s never built a wheel, and he can’t repair a car, and probably would have trouble fixing a flat. But he’s a jerk with a microphone and it’s Thanksgiving.

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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:54:43am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know, it’s entirely possible that Giuliani heard reports of people cheering. There was a lot of crazy shit going on that day. But that doesn’t mean the reports were true or even credible. It’s like the fog of war - you don’t necessarily know what is going on and what information to believe until things have settled. So basically, if the next words out of his mouth weren’t “but those reports proved false” then fuck him with a rusty flaming chainsaw.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:57:20am

Riiiiiiight—this guy assaults a Muslim woman, then claims he can’t remember any of it and starts blubbering about what a nice person he actually is.

What a steaming crock of shit.

Indiana University Student Charged In Attack On Muslim Woman

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:57:59am

what in the utter fuck

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Joe Bacon  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:58:53am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Did she come when you called her?

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Maybe she was smiling because she was using her Hitachi Magic Wand…

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 25, 2015 • 9:58:58am

There are 300 + million people in this country. Some of them probably cheered. Tough shit if they did, you still can’t generalize. Millions of Muslims have fought on our side since 9/11.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:00:18am

re: #398 Joe Bacon

Maybe she was smiling because she was using her Hitachi Magic Wand…

Youtube Video

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:00:49am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course…

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Rudy’s like “Did somebody say 9/11?”

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ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:02:00am

re: #396 CuriousLurker

Riiiiiiight—this guy assaults a Muslim woman, then claims he can’t remember any of it and starts blubbering about what a nice person he actually is.

What a steaming crock of shit.

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Video

So he is a psych major. Hmmmm.

I like the fake sniffle like he is going to start crying, and he couldn’t even look the reporter in the eyes while spewing the lies.

Maybe Mr. psych major needs to watch that video and then analysis it a bit.

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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:02:08am

re: #397 The Vicious Babushka

that must be some of that creative math wingnuts are always complaining about in common core. 680,000 green cards issued to immigrants from Muslim countries over the last 5 years - that’s 136,000 per year, in a country of 319 million. Which works out to 0.0004%, if I’m doing the math right.

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jaunte  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:02:09am

This is pretty cool, if you’re interested in maps:

The Homestake Mine in Lead, South Dakota, was once “the largest, deepest and most productive gold mine in North America,” featuring nearly 370 miles’ worth of tunnels.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:03:07am

re: #402 ObserverArt

So he is a psych major. Hmmmm.

I like the fake sniffle like he is going to start crying, and he couldn’t even look the reporter in the eyes while spewing the lies.

Maybe Mr. psych major needs to watch that video and then analysis it a bit.

Yeah, his attempt at crocodile tears was lame.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:03:24am

re: #397 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

Louie Gohmert ✔ @replouiegohmert
Coming soon: More immigrants from Muslim nations than population of D.C. — 680,000

THEY’RE GOING TO PASS SHAKIRA LAW AND FORCE US TO DANCE TO THEIR MUSLIM TUNE!

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CuriousLurker  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:04:09am

re: #404 jaunte

This is pretty cool, if you’re interested in maps:

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The Homestake Mine in Lead, South Dakota, was once “the largest, deepest and most productive gold mine in North America,” featuring nearly 370 miles’ worth of tunnels.

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I’m not especially interested in maps, but it looks very cool.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:04:13am

re: #404 jaunte

This is pretty cool, if you’re interested in maps:

[Embedded content]

The Homestake Mine in Lead, South Dakota, was once “the largest, deepest and most productive gold mine in North America,” featuring nearly 370 miles’ worth of tunnels.

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Needs to be a Skyrim mod.
Make it so.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:04:20am

re: #399 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Some of them did? Based on no evidence at all. None. Nothing proffered other than rumors and innuendo from 9/11/2001 itself, and all subsequent attempts to confirm that celebrations occurred have turned up precisely - nothing.

As others have pointed out, including the guy in charge of security in NJ on 9/11, it did not happen.

If there were any kind of incident as Trump claims, the police would have responded and reported it accordingly. While there were some reports that police stopped some people, no arrests were ever made, no confirmation of “thousands” let alone “thousands and thousands” of people in Jersey City, NJ were cheering/celebrating on 9/11.

None. It did not happen. And Trump’s just flat out lying. He isn’t misremembering. He’s lying. And he continues to spread the lie, and now the more noxious conspiracy BS that it’s all a conspiracy to cover up that thousands of people were indeed celebrating in Jersey City.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:04:37am

re: #396 CuriousLurker

Riiiiiiight—this guy assaults a Muslim woman, then claims he can’t remember any of it and starts blubbering about what a nice person he actually is.

What a steaming crock of shit.

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Video

“I’m not bigot, I’m just a violent drunk!” - Has that defense ever worked?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:05:21am

re: #406 Shiplord Kirel

THEY’RE GOING TO PASS SHAKIRA LAW AND FORCE US TO DANCE TO THEIR MUSLIM TUNE!

I bet if you did that classic Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck rabbit season duck season thing with a wingnut, you could probably get him to say Shakira Law. (Sort of like “nucular”)

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:07:06am

re: #404 jaunte

I was there a few years back when I went to the Black Hills. Part of the mine is now used to search for neutrinos, dark matter, and other exotic particles.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:08:02am

re: #411 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

THEY’RE GOING TO PASS SHAKIRA LAW AND FORCE US TO DANCE TO THEIR MUSLIM TUNE!

I bet if you did that classic Bugs Bunny/Daffy Duck rabbit season duck season thing with a wingnut, you could probably get him to say Shakira Law. (Sort of like “nucular”)

Shakira Law? I would obey any law she supports…

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:08:55am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

God to think I used to think Rudy Giuliani was sane.

People forget 9/11 happened right at the tail end of his term as Mayor. If not for that, all he would be remembered for is chasing the titty-bars out of Times Square and having his mistress shuttled around on the city’s dime.

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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:09:13am

re: #406 Shiplord Kirel

You know, the more I think about it, the more I understand how this sort of thing would sell well in less populated areas of the country. Once you get outside the top 17 or 18 metro areas, you’re talking about populations under three million people, so 680,000 sounds like a lot because it is more than 20% of the local population. So it’s something of a perspective thing. Of course, bullshit is bullshit no matter your perspective, but it’s probably less offensive when you’re standing upwind rather than downwind.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:09:19am

re: #414 Ace-o-aces

People forget 9/11 happened right at the tail end of his term as Mayor. If not for that, all he would be remembered for is chasing the titty-bars out of Times Square and having his mistress shuttled around on the city’s dime.

And dressing in drag.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:10:37am

re: #410 Ace-o-aces

“I’m not bigot, I’m just a violent drunk!” - Has that defense ever worked?

Yeah, he’s not the brightest bulb.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:10:45am

re: #395 KGxvi

You know, it’s entirely possible that Giuliani heard reports of people cheering. There was a lot of crazy shit going on that day. But that doesn’t mean the reports were true or even credible. It’s like the fog of war - you don’t necessarily know what is going on and what information to believe until things have settled. So basically, if the next words out of his mouth weren’t “but those reports proved false” then fuck him with a rusty flaming chainsaw.

John Farmer Jr., former New Jersey Attorney General:
I was in charge in N.J. on 9/11 and Trump’s claims never happened

As the state’s attorney general, I was forced to rely on runners for intelligence about what was happening across the river and in New Jersey.

Among hundreds of scattered reports from that day, I recall hearing that people were wearing suicide vests in Times Square; that suspicious activity was occurring near critical power plants and refineries; that as many as 20,000 people were dead or trapped inside the twenty stories or so of burning ruins; that New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani was missing; that vigilante activity was beginning throughout the state, with vandalism of mosques and synagogues; and, notoriously, that Muslims were dancing on the rooftops and in the streets of Jersey City and Paterson.

Of the various usually false reports of that day, the last was perhaps the most disturbing.

The first World Trade Center bombing had been staged from Jersey City, and Omar Abdel-Rahman, “The Blind Sheikh,” preached there at one time. If true, the report of widespread celebrating signaled at best a collapse of civic order that could easily have resulted in rioting, and at worst the likelihood of further attacks. If true, we would have had to mobilize the State Police and National Guard and locked the place down. We followed up on that report instantly because of its implications if true.

The word came back quickly from Jersey City, later from Paterson.

False report. Never happened.

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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:11:22am

re: #413 Timothy Watson

Shakira law:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:11:32am

re: #409 lawhawk

My point is that it doesn’t matter if anybody cheered. Millions of Germans and Japanese fought like hell against us in WW2 but before you know it, they became our allies. So I don’t care if some people cheered (in all likelihood they would be some kind of antisocial people who just watched on tv and smirked or something).

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:12:40am

re: #412 lawhawk

I bet the scientists are still looking around on the floor just in case there’s still some good stuff left lying around.

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Kragar  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:14:10am
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makeitstop  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:14:51am

re: #375 Not a Sparkly Vampire

We heard all kinds of shit that day.
The thing I remember the most were reports of a car bomb at the DoJ.
Most of it was bunk.

There were also early reports about a van with a bomb, heading towards a tunnel.

Never happened.

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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:15:14am

re: #410 Ace-o-aces

“I’m not bigot, I’m just a violent drunk!” - Has that defense ever worked?

Sadly, not the worst defense I’ve heard today. Former MMA fighter War Machine (born Jonathan Koppenhaver - he changed his name due to a trademark/copyright fight with Marvel comics), raised this defense in his sexual assault and attempted murder trial:

In court on Monday, during a hearing in which his defense lawyers argued that, because she is an adult film actress, Christine Mackinday, or “Christy Mack,” couldn’t accuse their client of rape, Jonathan Koppenhaver, a mixed martial arts fighter who goes by “War Machine,” blew a kiss to the prosecutor.

As a lawyer, I could not in good conscious make that defense. I simply couldn’t.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:15:22am

re: #420 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

My point is that it doesn’t matter if anybody cheered. Millions of Germans and Japanese fought like hell against us in WW2 but before you know it, they became our allies. So I don’t care if some people cheered (in all likelihood they would be some kind of antisocial people who just watched on tv and smirked or something).

And there are plenty of asshole teenagers out there that might have cheered because they thought it was cool or funny. I seem to recall a bunch of bad jokes in high school after the Columbia disaster (“What does NASA stand for? Need another seven astronauts.”), although I don’t seem to remember any after 9/11.

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lawhawk  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:15:59am

re: #422 Kragar

So, it’ll be good for Trump’s own neighbors to report him for being a degenerate ass? Gotcha. So what if we’re wrong that he isn’t humping cats and dogs and hamsters. It’s the thought that counts. /

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wrenchwench  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:17:44am
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ObserverArt  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:18:13am

So, when is the Donald going to announce The Trump® Youth Party™?

Raise ‘em up right.

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Jayleia  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:18:54am

re: #408 Not a Sparkly Vampire

We’ve secretly replaced Cidhna Mine with a painstaking reproduction of the Homestake Mine. Let’s see if they notice the difference.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:21:18am

re: #422 Kragar

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Man he sounds more like a fucking Nazi every day. Nice going GOP voters. Nice fucking going.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:22:06am

re: #414 Ace-o-aces

People forget 9/11 happened right at the tail end of his term as Mayor. If not for that, all he would be remembered for is chasing the titty-bars out of Times Square and having his mistress shuttled around on the city’s dime.

Yeah I guess so. In hindsight, I can see that Rudy was in love with promoting Rudy from the start.

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Jayleia  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:23:31am

re: #424 KGxvi

I’m not a lawyer, but…

I couldn’t make that defense with a straight face…I probably couldn’t make that defense without ending up on charges of attempted murder of MY CLIENT.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:24:00am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

Yeah I guess so. In hindsight, I can see that Rudy was in love with promoting Rudy from the start.

And he managed to ride that gravy train into a promising candidacy for the President.

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makeitstop  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:24:49am

re: #414 Ace-o-aces

People forget 9/11 happened right at the tail end of his term as Mayor. If not for that, all he would be remembered for is chasing the titty-bars out of Times Square and having his mistress shuttled around on the city’s dime.

And announcing his divorce from Donna Hanover to the media before telling Hanover.

America’s Mayor, my ass.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:25:19am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:25:45am

re: #433 thedopefishlives

And he managed to ride that gravy train into a promising candidacy for the President.

I wasn’t surprised he did terrible. You can talk tough on terrrorism all you want but if yo don’t hate gays and abortion or love guns enough, you get nowhere in the GOP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:29:09am

She’s trolling again==>

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b.d.  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:29:27am

re: #435 No Country For Old Haters

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Funny how Crowder uses the term working tool without a hint of ironic self-awareness.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:31:45am

re: #415 KGxvi

You know, the more I think about it, the more I understand how this sort of thing would sell well in less populated areas of the country. Once you get outside the top 17 or 18 metro areas, you’re talking about populations under three million people, so 680,000 sounds like a lot because it is more than 20% of the local population. So it’s something of a perspective thing. Of course, bullshit is bullshit no matter your perspective, but it’s probably less offensive when you’re standing upwind rather than downwind.

May be something to that. Tyler (107,000) is the largest city in Gohmert’s district. The nearest larger city, Dallas, is over 100 miles away.
I’ve commented before on the apparent perception among suburban/rural RWNJs that inner city “others” exist in limitless numbers, vast hordes, who will coming swarming out, zombie-like, to loot and pillage if the welfare checks ever stop. It sounds, and is, crazy and ignorant, but the assumption is very real and is the driving force behind many of their emergency preparations, especially gun and ammo hoarding.

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Kragar  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:31:56am

re: #435 No Country For Old Haters

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Remember the Viking war chariots they used when they raided throughout Europe?

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Kragar  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:32:25am

re: #437 The Vicious Babushka

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makeitstop  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:35:48am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

Yeah I guess so. In hindsight, I can see that Rudy was in love with promoting Rudy from the start.

Remember when he tried to cancel the mayoral elections because he was the only one who could possibly run the city in the wake of 9/11?

The Wall Street Journal heartily endorsed the idea.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:37:03am

re: #442 makeitstop

Remember when he tried to cancel the mayoral elections because he was the only one who could possibly run the city in the wake of 9/11?

The Wall Street Journal heartily endorsed the idea.

I actually don’t. I didn’t really pay a ton of attention. I was fourteen when 9/11 happened. That’s honestly scary though.

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Jenner7  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:38:17am

Wow.

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makeitstop  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:39:02am

re: #444 Jenner7

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Wow.

wut

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sagehen  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:41:30am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

I actually don’t. I didn’t really pay a ton of attention. I was fourteen when 9/11 happened. That’s honestly scary though.

Everybody else in the city said “are you fucking kidding me? We didn’t cancel elections during the goddamned Civil War, we’re sure as hell not canceling them for this.”

As for cheering crowds… I do remember a certain amount of cheering when the military fly-bys started, we knew we had cover and there wouldn’t be a third hit. And the next day, people lined the west side highway to cheer the caravans of fire trucks coming in from Connecticut, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:42:07am

re: #442 makeitstop

Remember when he tried to cancel the mayoral elections because he was the only one who could possibly run the city in the wake of 9/11?

The Wall Street Journal heartily endorsed the idea.

No big deal but Obama is a dictator and is trying to steal the presidency for life.

///

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:43:10am

re: #446 sagehen

Everybody else in the city said “are you fucking kidding me? We didn’t cancel elections during the goddamned Civil War, we’re sure as hell not canceling them for this.”

Rudy and the WSJ and other patriotic America lovers who love Liberty just had concerns about holding elections…..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:43:51am

re: #446 sagehen

Everybody else in the city said “are you fucking kidding me? We didn’t cancel elections during the goddamned Civil War, we’re sure as hell not canceling them for this.”

As for cheering crowds… I do remember a certain amount of cheering when the military fly-bys started, we knew we had cover and there wouldn’t be a third hit. And the next day, people lined the west side highway to cheer the caravans of fire trucks coming in from Connecticut, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

I always had the assumption that Rudy was probably more popular outside his city than in it. I always did hate that America’s mayor title he’s gotten especially since he’s grown very nasty and reactionary snce Obama’s election with actually saying Obama doesn’t love the country and not one person in the GOP having the nads to call that out for how pathetic it is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:44:23am

re: #447 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

No big deal but Obama is a dictator and is trying to steal the presidency for life.

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Don’t forget that Reagan actually did want to gut the term limit prohibition but Obummer’s the power hungry one. //

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CuriousLurker  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:44:49am

re: #437 The Vicious Babushka

She’s trolling again==>

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She sounds like a total flake. Choose to live? You don’t get to choose where you’re born, FFS.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:44:57am

re: #449 HappyWarrior

I always had the assumption that Rudy was probably more popular outside his city than in it. I always did hate that America’s mayor title he’s gotten especially since he’s grown very nasty and reactionary snce Obama’s election with actually saying Obama doesn’t love the country and not one person in the GOP having the nads to call that out for how pathetic it is.

It was true to an extent; people who didn’t know his sordid political history did like and respect him for the little they knew of him. Until he started opening his big fat mouth. You know, he’s kinda like Sarah Palin in that regard - well-liked, until they start talking.

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Great White Snark  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:46:41am

Hey most of you recall the Not Really The 9/11 Site Mosque controversy? History echoes. Virginia this time.
littlegreenfootballs.com

By the way anyone else notice not a peep about Iraqi refugees? Weird.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:47:47am

re: #452 thedopefishlives

It was true to an extent; people who didn’t know his sordid political history did like and respect him for the little they knew of him. Until he started opening his big fat mouth. You know, he’s kinda like Sarah Palin in that regard - well-liked, until they start talking.

I’m not sure if I’d compare him to Palin since he had been in the spotlight before 9/11 i.e. the SNL guest appearances and movie cameos.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:48:18am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

I’m not sure if I’d compare him to Palin since he had been in the spotlight before 9/11 i.e. the SNL guest appearances and movie cameos.

While true, you could’ve asked me who I was and I wouldn’t have known. I sure did after, though.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:48:50am

re: #396 CuriousLurker

Riiiiiiight—this guy assaults a Muslim woman, then claims he can’t remember any of it and starts blubbering about what a nice person he actually is.

What a steaming crock of shit.

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He’s responsible for his actions but he’s also a product of the midwest, a place long steeped in virulent racism. I was in Bloomington in ‘99 when Ben Smith shot a Korean graduate student to death. He was influenced by an Illinois white supremacist. Even after the shooting I found KKK flyers around the campus. After 9/11 there were persistent cases of local “good ol’ boys” (and probably students, too) driving around and yelling at women in hijab, sometimes throwing pennies at them.

What’s sickening is that Bloomington is, in many ways, an island of acceptance and sanity. But it can’t keep all the hatred out.

BTW, there used to be a couple of really good Turkish restaurants and an outstanding Afghan restaurant….

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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:49:38am

re: #444 Jenner7

I really hope the answer involved a glass bowl being broken over his head.

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sagehen  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:49:46am

re: #449 HappyWarrior

I always had the assumption that Rudy was probably more popular outside his city than in it. I always did hate that America’s mayor title he’s gotten especially since he’s grown very nasty and reactionary snce Obama’s election with actually saying Obama doesn’t love the country and not one person in the GOP having the nads to call that out for how pathetic it is.

Everybody else thought it was so leadership of him to be walking the streets and directing response from out in public; New Yorkers knew it was because he’d been stupid enough to put the emergency command post *in* the WTC and he had nowhere else to go.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:50:24am

re: #455 thedopefishlives

While true, you could’ve asked me who I was and I wouldn’t have known. I sure did after, though.

Oh true. I just think yeah he was more of a known than Palin. I do agree with you that he was someone that many wanted to give a chance and then he opened his mouth which definitely does make him like Palin. I have to confess. I was initially intrigued by the Palin pick. Now I was voting Obama all the way but McCain was someone I had respect for which I’ve since lost it since the full extent of how ignorant and hateful Palin is along with McCain himself growing worse since the defeat.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:50:56am

re: #458 sagehen

Everybody else thought it was so leadership of him to be walking the streets and directing response from out in public; New Yorkers knew it was because he’d been stupid enough to put the emergency command post *in* the WTC and he had nowhere else to go.

I wasn’t aware of that.

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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:51:43am

re: #444 Jenner7

also, based on the side eye by the little girl there, please tell me that this picture was taken immediately after the racism happened

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:55:33am

I sense a shift in the force.

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wrenchwench  Nov 25, 2015 • 10:55:59am

It’s been a long time coming:

The city of Fullerton agreed Monday to a $4.9 million settlement for the father of Kelly Thomas, a homeless, mentally ill man who died four years ago after a violent encounter with Fullerton police.

Attorneys struck the deal early Monday, hours before a civil trial was set to begin in the wrongful death claim - a trial that would have included video recordings in which the 37-year-old Thomas screams for his father to help him.

The settlement, to be paid by Fullerton’s insurance company, also marks a possible ending to a legal saga that so far has cost Fullerton taxpayers at least $2 million. Federal officials say a criminal civil rights investigation remains open. The five-year window on that case closes in July.

The eleventh-hour deal announced Monday also renewed questions of guilt in a story that drew national attention to the Fullerton police and prompted scrutiny of police use of force during encounters with mentally ill people.

Dana Fox, an attorney for the city of Fullerton, said the $4.9 million settlement is not an admission of legal liability by the city or police.

But Thomas’ father, Ron Thomas, disagreed.

[…]

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Jenner7  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:00:55am

re: #461 KGxvi

Yeah, that was her reaction to the ridiculous question.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:01:50am

re: #461 KGxvi

also, based on the side eye by the little girl there, please tell me that this picture was taken immediately after the racism happened

LOL, I had the exact same thought.

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Great White Snark  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:02:40am

re: #463 wrenchwench

Thanks for posting that.
There was once an linkage, where cities/counties that paid big liability dollars would be able to force police/sheriff departments to change use of force and high speed pursuit rules. But this has long since failed. The budget of the area just takes the hit, a shattered family has money instead of a father of mother. At best! Much discussion has happened about what needs to change. I’ll just add this to the long list-re link liability and policy.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:06:50am

re: #463 wrenchwench

It’s been a long time coming:

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The best part:

Ron Thomas had said he would donate money he might be awarded as result of his son’s death to helping the homeless.

During Monday’s news conference he mentioned no specific plans for his part of the $4.9 million, but said, “I will continue with my advocacy, helping out a lot of charities and organizations, working with them.”

He said he has been focused on getting the most needy of the mentally ill off the street.

“If money can help with that,” Ron Thomas said, “I will use it.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:07:43am

re: #467 CuriousLurker

The best part:

That’s very admirable of him. Poor guy. Hang in there sir.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:08:28am

re: #461 KGxvi

also, based on the side eye by the little girl there, please tell me that this picture was taken immediately after the racism happened

Kool-Aid is racist? I’ve got to go back and read the memos. This could open good discussion of when a stereotype is stereotypic, but there’s really more shit going on in the country.

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wrenchwench  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:09:17am

re: #466 Great White Snark

Thanks for posting that.
There was once an linkage, where cities/counties that paid big liability dollars would be able to force police/sheriff departments to change use of force and high speed pursuit rules. But this has long since failed. The budget of the area just takes the hit, a shattered family has money instead of a father of mother. At best! Much discussion has happened about what needs to change. I’ll just add this to the long list-re link liability and policy.

Their insurance company takes the hit, premiums probably increase, and Fullerton did undertake some additional training of officers.

Since Thomas’ death, Fullerton enacted police reforms that include better training for officers in dealing with the mentally ill and more “homeless liaison” officers.

And Thomas’ story has been tracked closely by people who advocate for the mentally ill.

Steve Pitman, board president for the Orange County chapter of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, said Monday he was pleasantly surprised by the amount of the settlement but that he wants the Justice Department to pursue a civil rights case against the Fullerton police.

But, yeah, the main message is that doing things wrong could cost you money, if not jail time (nobody was convicted.)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:09:53am
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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:10:12am

re: #463 wrenchwench

Random connection to this story. Maybe 10 years ago or so, on Christmas (I think, might have been Thanksgiving but I’m pretty sure it was Christmas), my dad ran across Kelly Thomas when running to the store for last minute supplies. Thomas had busted out a window in a vacant office building for shelter. My dad (and I think my sister) went back with old shoes, clothes, and a couple of plates of food for him. Reading this story has always been weird for me because of that.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:11:13am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

Wow. That response was just breathtaking.

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Jenner7  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:11:14am
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Jenner7  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:11:31am

Off to make cookies…bbl….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:11:36am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

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Being pissed off by bigoted speech doesn’t make one an opponent of free speech. I know that things like nuance chap the asses of conservatives but that’s just not the case. As for liberal fascism, who the fuck are the people flocking to the guy espousing fascist rhetoric? They sure as fuck aren’t liberals.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:11:39am

re: #467 CuriousLurker

Just think, if cities like Fullerton spent that much on police training, say, over a 5 yr period, it would pay for itself in the absence of lawsuits AND police who actually understood the concept of community policing. Win, win and innocent people don’t have to die and fathers don’t have to file lawsuits on behalf of their dead children.

Grown ass adults who can think beyond the next 5 minutes running things. Is that too much to ask?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:12:30am

so i hear that merkel and hollande held a moment of science at the memorial

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Kragar  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:12:41am
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KGxvi  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:13:18am

re: #469 Decatur Deb

It’s all about the context. Maybe my word choice was wrong, and stereotyping might have been a better choice, but let’s also recognize that the stereotype is based on race and a perception of what members of that race do

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:13:19am

for his part, obama says we a continually monitoring threats at home from a broad

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:13:29am

re: #472 KGxvi

Random connection to this story. Maybe 10 years ago or so, on Christmas (I think, might have been Thanksgiving but I’m pretty sure it was Christmas), my dad ran across Kelly Thomas when running to the store for last minute supplies. Thomas had busted out a window in a vacant office building for shelter. My dad (and I think my sister) went back with old shoes, clothes, and a couple of plates of food for him. Reading this story has always been weird for me because of that.

Very. That was kind of your dad and sister to do that. Too often people just write off the homeless as drunks or addicts beyond hope or help.

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wrenchwench  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:13:31am

re: #472 KGxvi

Random connection to this story. Maybe 10 years ago or so, on Christmas (I think, might have been Thanksgiving but I’m pretty sure it was Christmas), my dad ran across Kelly Thomas when running to the store for last minute supplies. Thomas had busted out a window in a vacant office building for shelter. My dad (and I think my sister) went back with old shoes, clothes, and a couple of plates of food for him. Reading this story has always been weird for me because of that.

I grew up in Fullerton, but didn’t recognize a single name. I went to high school with a guy who became Mayor of Santa Ana!

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Lidane  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:14:43am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:14:54am

re: #483 wrenchwench

I grew up in Fullerton, but didn’t recognize a single name. I went to high school with a guy who became Mayor of Santa Ana!

Heh if we’re going to talk random connections, I think I remember one time I was here and one of you RTed something by a guy I went to high school with who works for one of the major networks. Not sure though.

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Black d20  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:15:45am

re: #404 jaunte

There’s a joke in there somewhere about undead dwarves and a balrog or two.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:15:58am

re: #484 Lidane

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More fascism from Herr Dumbass. The key of fascism is going after the other. Obama’s not doing anything about terrorism because he’s clearly in cahoots with the terrorists and sympathizes. The assholes know exactly what he’s telling them even if the media will just act like this is more “controversial Trump.”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:16:47am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

Just another day on the Intertubes for the dead Breitbarts.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:17:23am

re: #480 KGxvi

It’s all about the context. Maybe my word choice was wrong, and stereotyping might have been a better choice, but let’s also recognize that the stereotype is based on race and a perception of what members of that race do

I don’t know anybody who didn’t drink Kool Aid growing up. The only non-food implication I have ever heard derives from the Jonestown killings, expanded to mean political gullibility. So Oliver Willis can go “Bruh” all over me. On the other hand I do know several foods that are clearly stereotypic.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:17:30am

re: #481 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

for his part, obama says we a continually monitoring threats at home from a broad

Well, at least he didn’t say we’re monitoring threats at home from a dame.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:17:59am

I saw that Trump was telling his supporters to inform on their neighbors even if they’re wrong. It’s amusing that the right which loves to call Obama a fascist actually eats real fascism up for breakfast when Donald Trump sells it to them.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:19:04am

re: #484 Lidane

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And that something is called the Middle East.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:21:08am

re: #491 HappyWarrior

I saw that Trump was telling his supporters to inform on their neighbors even if they’re wrong. It’s amusing that the right which loves to call Obama a fascist actually eats real fascism up for breakfast when Donald Trump sells it to them.

Freedom. Liberty.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:21:59am

re: #493 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Freedom. Liberty.

/

Supposedly things the wingnuts all heartily favor, up until they understand exactly what those terms mean.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:23:58am

re: #489 Decatur Deb

These days Kool Aid in certain contexts is considered “ghetto”. What poor blacks drink. When I was a kid we got it as a treat. Time and stereotyping have changed the context. Kilmeade would never have asked this of a white woman in that same kind of segment, I’d lay money on it. He’s also not that bright, but that kinda goes without saying….

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Lidane  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:26:53am

No shit? I hadn’t noticed.

Wilson likened a Trump nomination to a “hangover and then herpes” for the GOP.

“It’s like the classic consequences of bad planning and one night stands. It’s going to be something we pay for for a long time,” he said. “He’s the guy you want to go out and drink tequila shots with all night long and then you wake up the next day and say, ‘Oh man, that hurt. What the hell?’ “

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:29:04am

re: #496 Lidane

No shit? I hadn’t noticed.

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The establishment deserves Trump. They’ve been pandering to hateful idiots for years now and one of them finally has some clout and money. You reap what you sow establishment Republicans. This is your fault for wanting the angry whites that couldn’t accept Civil Rights in the 60’s.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:30:12am

re: #495 A Mom Anon

These days Kool Aid in certain contexts is considered “ghetto”. What poor blacks drink. When I was a kid we got it as a treat. Time and stereotyping have changed the context. Kilmeade would never have asked this of a white woman in that same kind of segment, I’d lay money on it. He’s also not that bright, but that kinda goes without saying….

Gotta catch up on my stereotypes. I can’t imagine asking anyone that, because differential Kool-Aid consumption rates would never have occurred to me. Watermelon—stereotype. Menthol Kools—stereotype. Kool-Aide—huh?

(Just asked my Floridian kid—he heard of it as a stereotype, but only grape Kool-Aid.)

Got to set this fascinating bit of culinary sociology aside, the kid wants to make Civ4 mountable on this machine.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:38:58am

re: #496 Lidane

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:40:29am

re: #499 No Country For Old Haters

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Right. I mean Trump is problematic sure but him losing isn’t going to get rid of the GOP’s problem. But I don’t care if they establishment wants to lie to themselves and tell themselves that. Fuck the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:45:07am

Man one of my friends I found is one of those types. I can’t get too upset since he’s a USMC veteran and I respect the hell out of that but I am sorry but American Sniper did not get snubbed. And if you honestly feel American Sniper was last year’s best movie, that’s your right to feel that way. The Academy when they give these awards is offering their opinions not set in stone facts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:59:14am

Man I killed the internet.

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SteelPH  Nov 25, 2015 • 11:59:51am

re: #502 HappyWarrior

Man I killed the internet.

You bastard!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 25, 2015 • 12:00:38pm

New Kasich ad:

(fixed the link)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 25, 2015 • 12:01:54pm

re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth

New Kasich ad:
twitter.com

I hae to give Kasich credit but again Trump is a symptom not the illness.

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sagehen  Nov 25, 2015 • 12:15:47pm

re: #469 Decatur Deb

Kool-Aid is racist? I’ve got to go back and read the memos. This could open good discussion of when a stereotype is stereotypic, but there’s really more shit going on in the country.

It used to be… (according to my dad, when he was a kid it was called “n***** belly-wash”) — but for people under 50, Kool-Aid (as in, “don’t drink the…”) is more of a Jim Jones reference.

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electrotek  Nov 25, 2015 • 3:28:02pm

re: #456 Barefoot Grin

He’s responsible for his actions but he’s also a product of the midwest, a place long steeped in virulent racism. I was in Bloomington in ‘99 when Ben Smith shot a Korean graduate student to death. He was influenced by an Illinois white supremacist. Even after the shooting I found KKK flyers around the campus. After 9/11 there were persistent cases of local “good ol’ boys” (and probably students, too) driving around and yelling at women in hijab, sometimes throwing pennies at them.

What’s sickening is that Bloomington is, in many ways, an island of acceptance and sanity. But it can’t keep all the hatred out.

BTW, there used to be a couple of really good Turkish restaurants and an outstanding Afghan restaurant….

I remember Ben Smith, Christ that was fucked up.

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Maggiemay11  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:19:28pm

I’ve never posted a comment like this before, but I simply have to say that Donald Trump is telling the truth about seeing the people celebrating on the New Jersey side when the towers fell. Who knows for sure who they were?! But it was a large group of people yelling and praising the tower falling. I saw it too, and I’m pretty sure it was on CNN. CNN was just about the only channel we watched. I’m sure CNN has this footage, (or can find it) but I’m thinking they just want to stretch out time with this story by contending they don’t know what he’s talking about. I am not a supporter of Trump, but I do believe in truth.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:28:41pm

re: #508 Maggiemay11

I can find every Bugs Bunny cartoon, even the banned ones, somewhere on the net. I can find Havoc In Heaven, an animated film made in China before the Cultural Revolution. I can find the full single Season of UFO, an almost unknown SF series by Gary and Sylvia Anderson of Thunderbirds fame.

I can find Nazi propaganda newsreels from WWII. I can find film of the last time the guillotine was used in France. I can find the silent version of The Thief of Baghdad.

I can’t find anything to support Trump’s statement.

I wonder why?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 7:57:47pm

re: #508 Maggiemay11

I’ve never posted a comment like this before, but I simply have to say that Donald Trump is telling the truth about seeing the people celebrating on the New Jersey side when the towers fell.

So Trump is definitely telling the truth—your assertion on that point seems quite certain. The bullshit part were you fail, due to either stupidity or lack of critical thinking skills, immediately follows:

Who knows for sure who they were?! But it was a large group of people yelling and praising the tower falling. I saw it too, and I’m pretty sure it was on CNN. CNN was just about the only channel we watched.

So you saw it with your own eyes and you’re certain it was people in NJ, but you’re only “pretty sure” it was on CNN.

You say it was “a large group of people” who were allegedly yelling and “praising” the tower falling—how large? A couple of dozen people? 50? 100? 500? Trump claimed it was thousands.

If you could hear the voices on this mysteriously missing piece of footage that not a single person in the entire U.S. has been able to produce, then the camera must’ve been close enough for you to have been able to hear if they were speaking English or a foreign language—which was it? If they were speaking English, did they have accents? What did they look like—their clothing, skin color, etc.—did they appear to be Americans? Were they in the street cheering, or on the rooftops cheering? Or both? Were they dancing too? If so, which ones in which location?

I’m sure CNN has this footage, (or can find it) but I’m thinking they just want to stretch out time with this story by contending they don’t know what he’s talking about. I am not a supporter of Trump, but I do believe in truth.

It wasn’t just CNN that disputed this bullshit—ALL of the major news organizations did, including this businesswoman who wrote an opinion piece for FOX News. Even Bill O’Reilly confronted Trump over his lie, FFS.

The mayor of Jersey City said it’s not true. Former New York Gov. George Pataki said it’s not true. New Jersey’s Governor Chris Christie said it isn’t true. The police commissioner of Paterson, NJ (Jerry Speziale) said, “That is totally false. That is patently false.” (Sources: nbcnews.com, cnn.com, factcheck.org )

John Farmer Jr., the NJ state’s attorney general at the time replied to the NY Times with the following in regard to the reports of Muslims supposedly celebrating in Jersey City and Paterson:

Open jubilation at the mass death, Mr. Farmer said, might quickly be followed by rioting and more deaths. “If true, we would have had to mobilize the State Police and National Guard and locked the place down,” he said.

“We followed up on that report instantly because of its implications,” he added. “The word came back quickly from Jersey City, later from Paterson. False report. Never happened.

Are all those officials lying & conspiring to hide some incriminating video?

Pull your fucking head out of your ass before you suffocate.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 8:07:13pm

re: #509 Romantic Heretic

Five days after the article is posted a Trump Troll slithers in and leaves a trail of slime behind. Totally lame crap too. If you’re gonna invent shit at least think through what you’re going to say and work out the details first, y’know?

Yeah I know, thinking isn’t their strong suit. I don’t know if it’s laziness or stupidity. Anyway, thanks for rebutting the derpitude (and thanks to klys for pointing it out) or I would’ve totally missed it


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