Planned Parenthood Shooting Suspect Gave Neighbor Anti-Obama Pamphlets, Said Obama Should Be Impeached

“We were there for a minute and the guy was already handing us anti-Obama pamphlets”
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Details about Robert Lewis Dear Jr., the suspect in yesterday’s shootings at the Planned Parenthood office in Colorado Springs, are beginning to emerge, and it’s already pretty clear where this is headed.

Buzzfeed News spoke to one of Dear’s neighbors and learned that Dear gave the neighbor anti-Obama pamphlets and said Obama was “ruining the country and needed to be impeached.”

Zigmond Post, who told BuzzFeed News he was a neighbor of Dear’s in Hartsel, said the man once gave him anti-Obama pamphlets.

Post said he once went to Dear’s home to retrieve two dogs that had gotten loose. “We were there for a minute and the guy was already handing us anti-Obama pamphlets,” he said. According to Post, Dear said “Obama was ruining the country and needed to be impeached.”

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257 comments

1
Romantic Heretic  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:35:56am

LONE WOLF!

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Jayleia  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:36:40am

Oh god, that’s a fucking ugly dude.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:38:00am

I’ll not hold my breath but I would really appreciate it if candidates were challenged on specifics of outlawing abortion. When abortion is outlawed, every woman of reproductive age is a potential criminal suspect. Every miscarriage is reasonable cause for an investigation. In El Salvador and other Latin American countries, they chain women to hospital beds when they miscarry while they interrogate them and their (usually female) family members, doctors, friends, etc., all of whom can be held criminally liable for aiding and abetting. This is the result of allowing religion to dictate our laws. Is this the future people like Ted Cruz have in store for us? They need to answer that question but unfortunately requesting accountability for positions is now deemed liberal bias.

This article was written in 2006 but I will never forget it. Might be pay protected but I’ll post the link here. It is aptly titled “Pro Life Nation.”

nytimes.com

I like to think this would never happen here, but our state and federal government is full of people who advocate and work for these kind of laws. They are relentless but so are American women who want to own their bodies. I refuse to be made a criminal by my biology.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:38:23am

Hope he dies in prison.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:39:34am

And after reading the article let me add:

THUG!11!1!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:39:46am

He has a beard. Obviously he’s Muslim.

Do I even need a /?

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urbanmeemaw  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:40:31am

That proves Obama is responsible for the shooting. If it weren’t for Obama he wouldn’t have been upset enough to kill 3 people and wound 9.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:42:28am

re: #3 UrbanAchiever

MEN OF AMERICA!

If you ever want to have sex with a woman (even your own wife) for anything other than reproductive purposes, you need access to Planned Parenthood or similar institutions offering female health care, including reproductive health.

Any assault on PP or on abortion rights is just like someone kicking you in the balls each time you look at a woman and think anything other than “Gee! I would sure like to sire a(nother) child!!!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:43:53am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But women can just get birth control for $10 at Target…

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:45:15am

Also, fuck this guy and the cowards who don’t have the balls to denounce him unequivocally.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:47:00am

Because of course he did. Sigh. I cannot for the life of me understand what is so hard to get about this: When someone immerses themselves in hatred, be it via talk radio, TV, online forums, who they associate with or whatever, that sooner or later a percentage of people who do that will snap. The people who manufacture this hatred (which has become profitable), on TV, radio, the people who made these PP videos and others can’t tell me they have no idea what they’re provoking. There’s just too much evidence to the contrary. I know we’re a nation that prides itself on free speech, we should. I wonder though, at what point does speech move from “just” speech and into provocation or incitement of violence? Would families of those wounded or killed in these events have legal recourse against the ones manufacturing the hatred? Doesn’t one’s freedom stop where another’s begins?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:47:25am

I’m working on a short story based on the death of a good friend. Sad, but slightly therapeutic.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:48:39am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Exactly. This is about all Americans. “Women’s issues” are everyone’s issues.

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team_fukit  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:48:50am

They’ll be saying John Brown handed out anti-James Buchanan pamphlets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:50:56am

re: #13 UrbanAchiever

Exactly. This is about all Americans. “Women’s issues” are everyone’s issues.

We need to make it clear to any man with an active libido that these bastards wanna see us turn back to the time of petticoats, chaperones and segregated campuses.

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allegro  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:54:16am

re: #15 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We need to make it clear to any man with an active libido that these bastards wanna see us turn back to the time of petticoats, chaperones and segregated campuses.

And shotgun weddings.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:54:57am

re: #15 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We need to make it clear to any man with an active libido that these bastards wanna see us turn back to the time of petticoats, chaperones and segregated campuses.

You assume they’d have a problem with that…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:56:28am

re: #16 allegro

And shotgun weddings.

ah yes, forgot about that.

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gwangung  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:57:45am

re: #16 allegro

And shotgun weddings.

And more poor women dying.

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allegro  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:58:45am

re: #19 gwangung

And more poor women dying.

Metal coat hanger industry will boom again. Yay capitalism.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 10:59:13am

They want to return to iron patriarchy.

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Dark_Falcon  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:00:27am

re: #14 team_fukit

They’ll be saying John Brown handed out anti-James Buchanan pamphlets.

He did rather more than that. like hacking pro-slavery men to pieces. Brown’s ends were just, but his means were horrible.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:03:00am

He critiqued Obama from the left and shot up PP because they didn’t do enough abortions.///need I

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:03:34am

re: #11 A Mom Anon

The problem is, and I really hate to say it but it’s the fucking truth: These people know what they are doing, even down to the point of realizing that cops and the media treat white shooters VERY differently from shooters of other races and/or religions. They also know there’s a very low chance any single one of them will ever be penalized, in a court or otherwise, for whatever rhetoric they promoted that led to the violence. They also know how much profit is in their business model and they’ll be damned if they want to do anything to mess up that money train.

It’s sad truth, but in America today, hate, especially right wing hate, is very good for business. Just ask the gun manufacturers who have been raking it in since Obama was elected.

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DesertDenizen  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:04:04am

re: #22 Dark_Falcon

He did rather more than that. like hacking pro-slavery men to pieces. Brown’s ends were just, but his means were horrible.

That’s exactly the justification that the anti-abortionists will make for Dear.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:05:03am

re: #19 gwangung

And more poor women dying.

Fucking THIS. The idea that abortion will just “go away” if you make it illegal is fucking absurd. It’ll go right back underground where it was before (and in some places still is).

And these are the same assholes who, after telling you they want to stop abortion, will, in the same breath, tell you that no amount of gun laws will keep bad guys from getting guns.

So infuriating.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:06:06am

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

There are very few poor drug dealers.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:06:48am

Lucky for him he wasn’t holding a knife and walking down the street while black. If he had been he would never have been taken alive.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:07:41am

I have a friend who got pregnant at 18. She came from a very traditional Afghan family. She was not even allowed to speak to boys. She was the sweetest girl I’ve ever met and she was a friend to me when no one else was. She had an abortion because she knew her family would disown her completely if they found out about the pregnancy. She’s now married and working abroad for humanitarian rights. I can’t imagine what her life would be without access to the abortion pill. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say it may have saved her life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:09:55am
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BlueGrl21  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:10:05am

I want to see whatever manifesto he produced (it’s got to exist) or hear his words. These guys are never stable, no matter what they’ve targeted. Something sets them off…gets to the nasty bugs in their brains.

I want to know what that was and WHO it was. I also suspect, given the area, he’s a Conservative Christian. Which, of course, is not Islam, so I don’t understand HOW this could have happened.

/sarcasm

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allegro  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:10:10am

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking THIS. The idea that abortion will just “go away” if you make it illegal is fucking absurd. It’ll go right back underground where it was before (and in some places still is).

And these are the same assholes who, after telling you they want to stop abortion, will, in the same breath, tell you that no amount of gun laws will keep bad guys from getting guns.

So infuriating.

There absolutely is a prolific underground market for abortion pills from Mexico due to the onerous regulations and inflated costs of legal abortions that put them out of reach of countless women. Blessedly there are abortion pills now that are less likely to kill and maim young women. That they aren’t readily and inexpensively available from any GP is insane.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:10:16am

NRO frontpage author wants to hang women who had an abortion. But conservatism is not to blame./

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dholmes32  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:12:40am

re: #33 Nyet

NRO frontpage author wants to hang women who had an abortion. But conservatism is not to blame./

Which asshat is that? There are so many…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:13:06am

re: #34 dholmes32

Which asshat is that? There are so many…

Kevin Williamson

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:13:21am
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KGxvi  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:14:13am

re: #33 Nyet

Spectator blog has a post yesterday about a group in Canada wanting to change the name of the Edmonton Eskimos and one today about the 76ers being incredibly terrible. There is a comment on one of the posts calling the writer a hack for not mentioning the shooting.

I’m curious if there will be any discussion come Monday

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:15:06am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Right on.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:16:25am

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Case in point - the recent study showing that at least 100,000 women in Texas have attempted to abort their own pregnancies.

*edited to clarify that this is just women in Texas

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:17:36am
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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:18:00am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Oh yes, due for a retweet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:18:16am

re: #39 UrbanAchiever

Case in point - the recent study showing that at least 100,000 women have attempted to abort their own pregnancies.

Abortion needs to be legal and thus safe as possible.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:18:42am
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:19:59am
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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:20:35am

Pregnancy is not without risks. A woman in New Mexico got a heart transplant after she had a baby.

Becoming a mom changes a woman’s life, but for one New Mexico woman, getting pregnant nearly killed her. Now, she’s sharing her story in hopes of reminding other moms not to take their health for granted.

She has a picture-perfect pregnancy and a healthy newborn daughter - Amanda Gabaldon was on a lucky streak when she delivered Kassidy in Nov. 2013.

“I envisioned my husband and I sitting at home by the fire in the winter and just loving out little bundle of joy,” she said.

But her first year as a mom went nothing like she expected. Just two weeks after giving birth, she felt sick.

After a misdiagnosis and a huge scare when her heart stopped, Gabaldon learned she had developed peripartum cardiomyopathy - in layman’s terms: heart disease brought on by the pregnancy.

While rare, Dr. Brendan Cavanaugh at the Albuquerque Heart Institute says it’s something pregnant women should know about because it can affect a perfectly-healthy mom in her 20s.

Unfortunately for Gabaldon, her case was worse than most. She had to be sent out of state, and in July 2014, she received a heart transplant.

[…]

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:21:20am

More propaganda from the “Radiance Foundation”

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nines09  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:22:07am

re: #2 Jayleia

Oh god, that’s a fucking ugly dude.

The real ugly is inside his heart and head.

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BlueGrl21  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:22:59am

re: #19 gwangung

And more poor women dying.

I tell my prolife friends, “You realize the first medical treatise on abortion was from ancient Egypt, 1550 BC?

You cannot prevent abortion. You never will. If a woman wants to abort a baby she can and will. May kill her, but you STILL cannot stop it. Women will thrown themselves down stairs, take herbs, use coat hangers, Draino, anything.

If that thought horrifies you then keep abortion safe, legal, and rare. Otherwise, you’re a hypocrite when you preach about life. Because we’ll abort anyway and there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US.”

They don’t walk away because they know I’m right.

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KGxvi  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:23:22am

re: #46 jaunte

I had to do a double take. That profile pic looked like the ISIS battle flag at first glance

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:24:01am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:25:53am

re: #43 jaunte

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Yeah shocker.//

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:27:51am

IT BEGINS.

According to a fascinating report from Collin Barras of the BBC, archeologists in Africa, South America and Southeast Asia, have been digging up crude stone tools that date back thousands of years — tools that were fashioned by non-human primates.

Which means something kind of extraordinary (emphasis mine):

“The tools are crude. A chimpanzee or monkey stone hammer is hardly a work of art to rival the beauty of an ancient human hand axe. But that’s not the point. These primates have developed a culture that makes routine use of a stone-based technology. That means they have entered the Stone Age.”

upworthy.com

Yep, we’re boned. Well, OK….not like tomorrow or anything. But interesting, to say the least. Here’s the link to the original BBC story: bbc.com

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Amory Blaine  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:29:11am

Animal cruelty in his history.

Douglas Moore was working in the yard with his son in Walterboro down a driveway marked with an American flag and a “rebel flag,” according to the police report from November 1, 2002. “A shot was fired from the residence next to his and Douglas’ dog yelped out loud and ran over to him,” the report read. “Douglas checked his dog and found a small wound on the right side of the dog,” which had apparently been shot with a pellet gun. Dear allegedly denied shooting the dog but said Douglas “was lucky that it was only a pellet that hit the dog and not a bigger round,” the report read.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:29:31am

The totalitarians who are against abortion are usually the same ones against sex ed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:30:33am

re: #54 Nyet

The totalitarians who are against abortion are usually the same ones against sex ed.

I’ve never met an avid abortion opponent who supported comprehensive sex Ed.

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UrbanAchiever  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:30:58am

re: #54 Nyet

Remember Eve’s original sin was knowledge.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:33:24am

re: #48 BlueGrl21

I tell my prolife friends, “You realize the first medical treatise on abortion was from ancient Egypt, 1550 BC?

You cannot prevent abortion. You never will. If a woman wants to abort a baby she can and will. May kill her, but you STILL cannot stop it. Women will thrown themselves down stairs, take herbs, use coat hangers, Draino, anything.

If that thought horrifies you then keep abortion safe, legal, and rare. Otherwise, you’re a hypocrite when you preach about life. Because we’ll abort anyway and there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US.”

They don’t walk away because they know I’m right.

The next step, which they swear all the time will never happen even though it has repeatedly, is jailing women for “endangering their child.” Cops will be tasked with investigating cases involving pregnant women being brought to the hospital for injuries or poisoning as attempted abortions, as well as treating miscarriages as murder cases.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:34:32am

Oh hai Chucky!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:35:15am

Planned Parenthood suspect spent time in Black Mountain

Dear registered to vote in Colorado in October 2014, registering as a female and listing his political party as “UAF,” or Unite Against Facism, according to Colorado election records. Dear was not registered to vote in North Carolina, according to the NC Board of Elections.

Edited to note that the article has a glaring error: UAF in Colorado means Unaffiliated.
Unite Against Fascism is a political party in the UK.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:35:38am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Oh hai Chucky!

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Oh boo hop. Someone actually quoted what I said accurately.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:35:40am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Oh hai Chucky!

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your libel to upset him with talk like that!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:36:14am

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Planned Parenthood suspect spent time in Black Mountain

Registered as female?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:36:31am

re: #57 Targetpractice

The next step, which they swear all the time will never happen even though it has repeatedly, is jailing women for “endangering their child.” Cops will be tasked with investigating cases involving pregnant women being brought to the hospital for injuries or poisoning as attempted abortions, as well as treating miscarriages as murder cases.

Which invariably leads to this:

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:36:33am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

He’s not pleased, but he’s not displeased.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:36:40am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Oh hai Chucky!

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Perhaps he can sue you next. From his jail cell.

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calochortus  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:36:51am

re: #56 UrbanAchiever

Remember Eve’s original sin was knowledge.

I’ve never really understood what was going on in that part of Genesis-Adam and Eve are being kept from knowledge of what is good and what is evil. They gain that knowledge and realize that they shouldn’t be naked. They and their descendants are punished in perpetuity because they were trying to avoid doing something wrong.
I’m sure I’m missing something there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:37:06am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Registered as female?

That’s what is in the registration record. Could be a typo, could be Dear being non-PC.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:38:15am

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Registered as female?

Probably just checked the wrong box.
But, you absolutely know that this will be the single point of importance for some

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:38:19am

re: #63 Dr Lizardo

Which invariably leads to this:

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Yeah, let’s be honest, they see The Handmaid’s Tale not as speculative fiction, but as a guidebook.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:38:28am

So I haven’t been keeping up—how many of the GOP candidates have straightforwardly condemned the Planned Parenthood shooting?

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:39:07am

re: #70 CuriousLurker

So I haven’t been keeping up—how many of the GOP candidates have straightforwardly condemned the Planned Parenthood shooting?

Not a one.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:39:46am

re: #71 Targetpractice

Not a one.

Thanks. Good grief.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:39:59am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:40:11am

re: #71 Targetpractice

Not a one.

Not surprised.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:40:42am

OT:
Anyone else having significant problems with LGF pages viewed via Google Chrome the last week?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:40:45am

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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Yeah you totes libeled him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:41:07am

re: #68 FormerDirtDart

Probably just checked the wrong box.
But, you absolutely know that this will be the single point of importance for some

Oh I’m sure.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:41:47am

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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So he’s pro-terrorism if he doesn’t get his way politically? Good to know.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:42:32am

re: #54 Nyet

Because opposite to abortion isn’t and never has been about wanting to reduce abortions.

Image: pro-life-belief-chart.png

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:43:05am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

National Review’s Kevin D. Williamson: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged, and So Should Doctors

Once again revealing that they aren’t pro life, but forced birth. If they were truly pro-life, they would never even entertain the notion of death penalty to doctors or the women who seek a legal medical procedure.

These extremists are looking to impose a worldview that is unforgiving for anyone who doesn’t adhere to their very narrow views.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:43:06am

re: #54 Nyet

The totalitarians who are against abortion are usually the same ones against sex ed.

Against any science related to reproduction. Can you imagine having to explain why God aborts so many embryos?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:43:21am

re: #79 The Mountain That Blogs

Because opposite to abortion isn’t and never has been about wanting to reduce abortions.

Again: these people are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very idea of planning parenthood.

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Jay C  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:43:35am

re: #49 KGxvi

I had to do a double take. That profile pic looked like the ISIS battle flag at first glance

Similar ideologies, similar flags…..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:44:45am

re: #78 CuriousLurker

So he’s pro-terrorism if he doesn’t get his way politically? Good to know.

That’s pretty much what he argued. He’s fucked up in the head I guess from listening to too much Rush at an impressionable age.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:45:18am

re: #22 Dark_Falcon

Brown’s ends were just, but his means were horrible.

FTFY. The means negate the ends.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:46:20am

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

FTFY. The means negate the ends.

True, Brown did a lot to convince Southerners that there was no choice but armed resistance.

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DesertDenizen  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:46:22am

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

FTFY. The means negate the ends.

That was sort of my point earlier. I appreciate your succinctness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:47:05am

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Planned Parenthood suspect spent time in Black Mountain

BTW, “UAF” doesn’t stand for what the Asheville newspaper article says it does.
In Colorado, it mean “Unaffiliated”.

Somebody there needs to work on their google skills.

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DesertDenizen  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:48:27am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And we can’t condone or excuse terrorism simply because it’s “our side” practicing it. Every terrorist believes that their ends justify the means. To me, that’s their true evil; placing any abstract above human life.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:52:12am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Because how dare you use his own words against him!

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:53:42am

In many cities in America it is easier to get access to illegal drugs, illegal prostitution and stolen goods than a LEGAL abortion.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:54:19am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Again: these people are not just against Planned Parenthood as an institution, they are against the very idea of planning parenthood.

Think of the differing reactions you might get to ‘Planned Fatherhood’ or ‘Planned Motherhood’.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:54:29am

re: #73 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby has one leeetle problem: Planned Parenthood has not been tried and found guilty of committing a crime. So that’s why he and his cohort are getting the MoFo treatment by the NARAL.

The real problem will be if Gawker succeeds and he has to declare bankruptcy, he’ll become judgement proof-he can sue like mad and everyone will be stuck having to hire counsel to fight off this pest unless someone steps up and asks to have him declared a vexatious litigant.

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nines09  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:54:31am

re: #70 CuriousLurker

So I haven’t been keeping up—how many of the GOP candidates have straightforwardly condemned the Planned Parenthood shooting?

GOP candidates response to shooting in Colorado…. Crickets…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:55:23am

re: #94 nines09

All of them?

Every last damn one?

Holy hell.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:55:30am

re: #93 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Rage Furby has one leeetle problem: Planned Parenthood has not been tried and found guilty of committing a crime. So that’s why he and his cohort are getting the MoFo treatment by the NARAL.

The real problem will be if Gawker succeeds and he has to declare bankruptcy, he’ll become judgement proof-he can sue like mad and everyone will be stuck having to hire counsel to fight off this pest unless someone steps up and asks to have him declared a vexatious litigant.

Well, not only not tried and found guilty, but also the videos provide no evidence of lawbreaking.

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nines09  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:56:11am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

All of them?

Every last damn one?

Holy hell.

Cruz make a remark. A lame remark. That is the list and that is the text.

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calochortus  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:56:22am

re: #80 lawhawk

Once again revealing that they aren’t pro life, but forced birth. If they were truly pro-life, they would never even entertain the notion of death penalty to doctors or the women who seek a legal medical procedure.

These extremists are looking to impose a worldview that is unforgiving for anyone who doesn’t adhere to their very narrow views.

Another benefit for the upper class is that forcing birth (for the riff raff, not for them) places pressure on young men to marry the mother of their child. A man with a wife and children has a lot to lose if he stands up against the town’s major employer, or the local power structure. It is easier to pressure them to ‘behave.’
At the same time, a mother who really needs a husband to support her children won’t be causing trouble either. She’ll be competing with other young women for the most likely looking man to keep her from starving.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:56:54am

re: #97 nines09

Imagine if Obama waited two days after a shooting before making a statement. The RWNJs would be crucifying him for being “lazy” and “too slow to act”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:57:44am

re: #98 calochortus

That model seems as though it should be outdated…

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:58:05am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW, “UAF” doesn’t stand for what the Asheville newspaper article says it does.
In Colorado, it mean “Unaffiliated”.

Somebody there needs to work on their google skills.

Here in PA I am registered unaffiliated, it is abbreviated as “NF”. Guess “NA” would confuse people, but i think would be appropriate.

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calochortus  Nov 28, 2015 • 11:58:31am

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

That model seems as though it should be outdated…

It largely is, but there are always those hopeful of turning the clock back.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:00:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:03:06pm

re: #75 FormerDirtDart

OT:
Anyone else having significant problems with LGF pages viewed via Google Chrome the last week?

Is this happening in long comment threads, or on pages with no comments too?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:03:17pm

re: #97 nines09

Cruz make a remark. A lame remark. That is the list and that is the text.

Yeah, no condemnation of the shooting itself. I wonder if a Muslim candidate for public office (or Muslim organization) could get away with such a milquetoast response. How about POTUS, do you suppose he could get away with it?

(Okay, I lied—I don’t wonder, I know the answers to both).

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:04:03pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine if Obama waited two days after a shooting before making a statement. The RWNJs would be crucifying him for being “lazy” and “too slow to act”.

Heh, GMTA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:05:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:05:24pm

I remember hearing about someone who registered Indepedent in California but actually registered with a descendant of George Wallace’s “American Independent Party.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:05:42pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cowards.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:05:52pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart

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Exactly.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:06:08pm

I’m in Chrome and the Comments button on the front page hasn’t worked. If you’re going under the hood…

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dholmes32  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:09:38pm

Just so we don’t forget. Troy Newman is the current head of Operation Rescue, and he’s one of the people who set up the “Center for Medical Progress” (aka Planned Parenthood hit videos). This is from 2003 when Newman was supporting convicted murderer Paul Hill, saying that Hill should have been allowed to present a necessity defense.

Again, so we don’t forget the kind of asshats we’re dealing with here. No matter what Troy Newman says today, 12 years ago he supported Paul Hill, who killed two people in Pensacola in 1994.

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nines09  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:10:00pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine if Obama waited two days after a shooting before making a statement. The RWNJs would be crucifying him for being “lazy” and “too slow to act”.

After all the rhetoric and the kooks they are nurturing, anything else besides complacent silence would seem….posed. If this guy went in there with intentions to kill PP staff, it’s right at every one of their feet. They own it.

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nines09  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:11:47pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart

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And corporations are people too. That’s why you can read about a governor somewhere staying the execution of….a……corporation.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:14:03pm

re: #111 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

I’m in Chrome and the Comments button on the front page hasn’t worked. If you’re going under the hood…

Just checked Chrome and the buttons that go to comment pages seem to be working fine on this end. Are you talking about the buttons that have a comment number in them with a little word balloon icon?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:14:20pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Is this happening in long comment threads, or on pages with no comments too?

Any page, though long comment threads seem to cause the problem more rapidly.
I’m now using an IE and not experiencing the same problem.
Like I tweeted you yesterday, pages will utilize 1.5-2 gb of my systems RAM, and 20-40% CPU utilization

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:15:42pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Just checked Chrome and the buttons that go to comment pages seem to be working fine on this end. Are you talking about the buttons that have a comment number in them with a little word balloon icon?

Yes. Maybe a re-install?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:15:55pm

I use Chrome for LGF on my desktop and haven’t noticed any issues lately.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:16:18pm

re: #116 FormerDirtDart

Any page, though long comment threads seem to cause the problem more rapidly.
I’m now using an IE and not experiencing the same problem.
Like I tweeted you yesterday, pages will utilize 1.5-2 gb of my systems RAM, and 20-40% CPU utilization

Well, I’ll check - but I think this is something in Chrome that I can’t really do anything about. I’ve never seen this behavior in Safari or the Mac version of Chrome.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:17:04pm

re: #117 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Yes. Maybe a re-install?

Did you try restarting your computer?

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:17:06pm
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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:18:52pm

At least Canada is getting it right:

Last Friday, the local Muslim community prayed in a United church. This week, it’s a synagogue. And next week, they’ll be at an Anglican church.

Larry Gillman, Beth Israel Synagogue’s president, stood at the synagogue’s entrance Friday afternoon, greeting Muslims as they walked through the door.

“Thank you for having us,” one woman said, before removing her shoes and heading downstairs.

Arson to the Kawarthas’ only mosque on Nov. 14 has left Muslims without a place of worship.

City police deemed the fire to Masjid Al-Salaam as a hate crime.

Since the fire, many religious dominations stepped forward, offering their spaces for Islamic prayer. […]

thepeterboroughexaminer.com

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:19:38pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

In many cities in America it is easier to get access to illegal drugs, illegal prostitution and stolen goods than a LEGAL abortion.

In the red states, it’s definitely easier to get a gun than to get a legal abortion.

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Egregious Philbin  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:22:13pm

I wonder what his Freeper name is.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:23:09pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Did you try restarting your computer?

Yes, restarted. I’ve had the prob a few weeks but worked around. I found out the interim page, the Jump to Bottom button doesn’t work either.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:24:23pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Just checked Chrome and the buttons that go to comment pages seem to be working fine on this end. Are you talking about the buttons that have a comment number in them with a little word balloon icon?

Just to toss in my $0.02 - when I’m on my Kindle Fire and click that button, it doesn’t take me to comments, it just displays the latest comment in the thread.

Dunno if you can remedy that, and it’s no big if you can’t Just figured I’d point it out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:24:44pm

re: #122 CuriousLurker

Hey, Canadians are known for being polite and generous. :D

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:26:43pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

Well, I’ll check - but I think this is something in Chrome that I can’t really do anything about. I’ve never seen this behavior in Safari or the Mac version of Chrome.

This has been a recent problem, first noticed this week.
And I have submitted the issue to Google

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:29:28pm

Oh shit, we just converted to Google mail.. dammit!

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:32:43pm

In the last 3 weeks:

Upgraded to an enterprise grade server with local mirrors/cloud backups
got off GoDaddy hosted Exchange
moved to Google hosted Exchange
updated our design software and patched with Quickbooks
hired 6 employees
bought 3 more computers and got everybody on Remote Desktop

A Comments button not working? Small beans.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:35:13pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey, Canadians are known for being polite and generous. :D

I’ve only been to Canada (Toronto) once (back in ‘97), but I noticed that. Also very reserved—like when a crazy person gets on a bus or subway, they just pretend like nothing’s happening. I saw that a couple of times, heh.

One day I was down around the Queen’s Quay (on the street side) waiting for my ride when this tour bus pulled. There were some mariachis playing music in the street next to where I was sitting and the group getting off the bus just happened to be from Texas. This guy in a cowboy hat & boots takes one look at the mariachis and let’s out a whoop, followed by, “Hot damn, it feels like we’re right back in Texas!”

People were looking at the group sideways and giving them a wide berth as if a UFO had just landed and aliens disembarked. Totally cracked me up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:41:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:41:34pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:42:17pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:47:01pm

They’ll find a cat. Or a kangaroo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:51:04pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:52:56pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

JUDO KICK!

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:53:09pm

I’m annoyed that I had to link to a KT page here. Justin Raimondo & Antiwar(dot)com—srsly?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:54:45pm

re: #126 makeitstop

Just to toss in my $0.02 - when I’m on my Kindle Fire and click that button, it doesn’t take me to comments, it just displays the latest comment in the thread.

Dunno if you can remedy that, and it’s no big if you can’t Just figured I’d point it out.

That’s actually how I designed it to work on touch screen devices (since there’s no “hovering” effect), so you can check the latest comment. When the latest comment pops up, tap the commenter’s name and you’ll go into the thread directly to that comment.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:56:23pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

I remember hearing about someone who registered Indepedent in California but actually registered with a descendant of George Wallace’s “American Independent Party.”

There still is an American Independent Party in California. When I lived in South Gate, we had a couple of them running for the city council…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:56:31pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

I’m annoyed that I had to link to a KT page here. Justin Raimondo & Antiwar(dot)com—srsly?

Raimondo? Oh my.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:56:55pm

re: #140 Joe Bacon

There still is an American Independent Party in California. When I lived in South Gate, we had a couple of them running for the city council…

Gotcha. That’s crazy.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:57:24pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

I’m annoyed that I had to link to a KT page here. Justin Raimondo & Antiwar(dot)com—srsly?

Good for you. I didn’t know where to start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:57:57pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

I’m annoyed that I had to link to a KT page here. Justin Raimondo & Antiwar(dot)com—srsly?

Relieved to know I’m not the only one who has been getting a KT vibe since that one first showed up.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:58:29pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Raimondo? Oh my.

Indeed.
I had forgotten about that PoS.

/I blame CL. :P

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:59:42pm

re: #145 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Indeed.
I had forgotten about that PoS.

/I blame CL. :P

I had too. Thanks CL. //

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Great White Snark  Nov 28, 2015 • 12:59:43pm

Planned Parenthood shooting: Gunman named but motive unknown
cnn.com
Chicken Noodle News moment

Gee maybe it has something to do with Planned Parenthood? Does anyone doubt a gunman at a bank is there to rob it? if a guy with a gun shows up at PP and shoots is it not about as doubtful as a pilot showing up at an airport and maybe flying a plane?

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:00:32pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

That’s actually how I designed it to work on touch screen devices (since there’s no “hovering” effect), so you can check the latest comment. When the latest comment pops up, tap the commenter’s name and you’ll go into the thread directly to that comment.

Ah! You learn something new every day! Thanks for the tip, Charles.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:00:51pm

Sinus headache of doom. Send help. Need 3000 more words.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:01:17pm

re: #81 wrenchwench

Against any science related to reproduction. Can you imagine having to explain why God aborts so many embryos?

One would think that two embryos fusing into one, and then possibly separating again, would put the idea of personhood beginning at conception to rest. But who cares about pesky facts?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:02:37pm

re: #150 Nyet

And let’s not even talk about in-vitro fertilization….

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:03:16pm

re: #150 Nyet

One would think that two embryos fusing into one, and the possibly separating again, would put the idea of personhood beginning at conception to rest. But who cares about pesky facts?

Also, speaking of brains, have you looked into hemispherectomy? Relates to Dr. Carson, oddly enough.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:03:40pm

re: #143 wrenchwench

Good for you. I didn’t know where to start.

I just typed lgf justin raimondo into Google and it came right up—first link. I figured there had to be something here about him. There are also a couple of pages by Gus if you search the pages for his name as a tag.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:04:07pm

re: #150 Nyet

I’d just be happy if they understood simple human biology and how birth control works. That right there would solve more than a couple of issues.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:04:29pm

Can anyone help me? My Twitter account has been “compromised” and is now locked. My account started following “spam accounts” (mostly Arabic or Japanese, 200 or so) I would unfollow or block them but the next day they or similar would be back. When I try to log on it says I have been compromised and asks me to enter a phone number and they will send a verification code, they do, I enter it, and it says it’s “invalid.” WTF? Has this happened to anyone else? How did this happen/How do I fix this?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:06:52pm

Dinner tonight - sirloin steaks marinated in a homemade brown sugar bourbon mix. Just got them set on the grill; I’m hoping I have enough gas to finish them, as the oven is out of commission due to an overflow of butter from Thanksgiving that is still being cleaned out.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:06:52pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

Can anyone help me? My Twitter account has been “compromised” and is now locked. I was following “spam accounts” (mostly Arabic or Japanese 200 or so) I would unfollow or block but the next day they or similar would be back. When I try to log on it asks me to enter a phone number and they will send a verification code, they do, I enter it, and it says it’s “invalid.” WTF? Has this happened to anyone else? How did this happen/How do I fix this?

That must be the dreaded Twitter Gulag. I know nothing.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:07:32pm

re: #152 wrenchwench

Yep.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:08:10pm

re: #154 A Mom Anon

I’d just be happy if they understood simple human biology and how birth control works. That right there would solve more than a couple of issues.

Goddidit.

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Thanos  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:08:10pm

re: #153 CuriousLurker

… and if you look way back littlegreenfootballs.com

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:09:07pm

re: #158 Nyet

Yep.

No effect on ‘personhood’, correct?

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Kid A  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:09:49pm

Dim Jim says the PP terrorist “identifies as a woman.”

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:10:12pm

re: #161 wrenchwench

No effect on ‘personhood’, correct?

Nope. They still have a functioning brain.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:10:33pm

re: #162 Kid A

Dim Jim says the PP terrorist “identifies as a woman.”

Knew they would go with that angle. Fucked up assholes.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:12:39pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Knew they would go with that angle. Fucked up assholes.

They’ll go with any angle as long as fits their tortured worldview.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:12:58pm

re: #162 Kid A

Dim Jim says the PP terrorist “identifies as a woman.”

I got wingnuts here swearing he’s a Democrat. SMOTI of Freepers? No one will post a link.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:13:18pm

re: #165 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

They’ll go with any angle as long as fits their tortured worldview.

Of course. Conservative heterosexual Christian white males can do no wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:14:07pm

re: #166 Dave In Austin

I got wingnuts here swearing he’s a Democrat. SMOTI of Freepers? No one will post a link.

Pretty sure he didn’t identify with either party. His neighbors OTOH recall him spouting out anti-Obama crap.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:14:11pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Of course. Conservative heterosexual Christian white males can do no wrong.

Unless they have a mental disorder, because only someone who is mentally ill would shoot up a movie theater.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:16:19pm

re: #169 thedopefishlives

Unless they have a mental disorder, because only someone who is mentally ill would shoot up a movie theater.

Yeah that’s another thing. They have to be “mentally ill.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:17:32pm

re: #162 Kid A

If that’s the case, he wasn’t living as a woman, if the mug shots are any indication.

You know, when my kid first got an ID card (he has a driver’s license now) his eye color was listed as blue. Someone made a mistake at the DMV, it’s obvious from the photo he inherited his mom’s big brown cow eyes. So does that mean his eyes are really blue? I’m gonna go with Nope! on that one.

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Kid A  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:18:11pm

Dim Jim also is bad at math. He says an increase in renewable energy from 8.1% to 9.8% is a 1% increase. It’s actually a 22% increase. 22% of 8.1 is (roughly) 1.7 points which added equals 9.8%

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Kid A  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:19:30pm

He identifies as a woman because his voter ID has him registered as a woman. Uh, a clerical error perhaps, Dim Jim?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:20:00pm

re: #171 A Mom Anon

If that’s the case, he wasn’t living as a woman, if the mug shots are any indication.

You know, when my kid first got an ID card (he has a driver’s license now) his eye color was listed as blue. Someone made a mistake at the DMV, it’s obvious from the photo he inherited his mom’s big brown cow eyes. So does that mean his eyes are really blue? I’m gonna go with Nope! on that one.

It’s funny. When I registered to vote, I actually did almost register as female. However, I quickly noticed my error. But yeah mistakes like this do happen because human error is inevitable. I don’t see any indictation that this man was transgendered but more importantly I don’t see the relevance either. Heterosexual white Christian males shoot places up all the time and I don’t see Dim Jim fixating over that but then again that would mean self reflection.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:20:47pm

re: #172 Kid A

Dim Jim also is bad at math. He says an increase in renewable energy from 8.1% to 9.8% is a 1% increase. It’s actually a 22% increase. 22% of 8.1 is (roughly) 1.7 points which added equals 9.8%

Damn math and its liberal bias.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:21:19pm

re: #173 Kid A

He identifies as a woman because his voter ID has him registered as a woman. Uh, a clerical error perhaps, Dim Jim?

Nope, they’ll seize on any excuse to declare this guy as something other than an ordinary heterosexual Christian white male, because that would give libruls ammunition to declare the man a Christian terrorist.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:21:47pm

re: #172 Kid A

Dim Jim also is bad at math. He says an increase in renewable energy from 8.1% to 9.8% is a 1% increase. It’s actually a 22% increase. 22% of 8.1 is (roughly) 1.7 points which added equals 9.8%

Percents, percentage points… go away you libtard, my head hurts!

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:21:48pm

re: #160 Thanos

… and if you look way back littlegreenfootballs.com

Way back indeed. I tried searching the main articles for his name as a tag, but got nothing. Looks like that one was from before tags were being used. Bookmarked now.

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Kid A  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:22:14pm
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Alephnaught  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:22:40pm
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Kid A  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:23:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:23:30pm

I like how if you’re transgendered or whatever, you must be a liberal by Dim Jim’s logic. I mean all things suggest to me that this was just a clerical error but even if this guy was transgendered. It doesn’t prove anything just like Dim Jim being a middle aged white guy doesn’t indicate all white guys as being pathetic partisan hacks like Jim but as we’ve observed, if you’re part of the “other” the cons will fixate on that but just shrug it off if not. Adam Lanza, Elliott Rodger, and I were all on the spectrum. Well one of us hasn’t killed a bunch of people and would never dream of it. The same is true of millions of transgendered people and other people on the spectrum including some of you and your kids.

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Tigger2  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:23:31pm

re: #179 Kid A

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His ideology makes him a rightwing Republican in thinking as far as I’m concerned I don’t care how he’s registered.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:24:11pm

Buddha, you say…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:24:14pm

re: #179 Kid A

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I think Dim Jim forgets that many people who vote Republican don’t register Republican and claim like hell they’re independent but then support that party whole heartily.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:25:38pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I think Dim Jim forgets that many people who vote Republican don’t register Republican and claim like hell they’re independent but then support that party whole heartily.

Or, he could just be unaffiliated. That’s fine, I have no problem whatsoever saying he’s not a Republican. I will, however, call him a Christian terrorist. I will own that and, for the record, I will heartily denounce his terrorism and call him a bloody asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:27:03pm

re: #186 thedopefishlives

Or, he could just be unaffiliated. That’s fine, I have no problem whatsoever saying he’s not a Republican. I will, however, call him a Christian terrorist. I will own that and, for the record, I will heartily denounce his terrorism and call him a bloody asshole.

Exactly. Not being a Republican doesn’t mean he’s left wing. Hell if anything, I imagien he’s one of these who thinks the R’s are too liberal. And you’re right. He’s a Christian terrorist.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:27:36pm

re: #181 Kid A

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Jim fail math? That’s unpossilbe.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:29:09pm

re: #179 Kid A

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So what if he registered as a woman? Log Cabin Republicans, Caitlyn Jenner, etc.

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stpaulbear  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:30:24pm

re: #181 Kid A

Someone should point out to Jim that if a friend has $80 and you give them another $20 you’ve increased their wealth by 25%, but if you ask them for the money back, they’re only giving you 20% back! Cheaters!!1!1!!

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:30:25pm

re: #189 CuriousLurker

So what if he registered as a woman? Log Cabin Republicans, Caitlyn Jenner, etc.

HE’S NOT A WHITE MAN, THEREFORE THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE THAT WE NEED TO INTROSPECT ABOUT

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:30:56pm

re: #184 Nyet

Buddha, you say…

Image: hitchens-sidartha.gif

Ha! I’d forgotten all about that. Things that make you go, “Hmm….”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:31:31pm

re: #189 CuriousLurker

So what if he registered as a woman? Log Cabin Republicans, Caitlyn Jenner, etc.

Exactly. I personally think it was a clerical error likely but even if so, Dim Jim is just being his usual pathetic self.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:32:19pm

re: #192 CuriousLurker

Not that I’m serious. Just funny :)

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:33:48pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Exactly. I personally think it was a clerical error likely but even if so, Dim Jim is just being his usual pathetic self.

Yeah, they’re like a drowning person flailing around and grabbing hold of anything that looks like it might float and help them survive.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:34:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:35:03pm

I mean I am sorry but if your whole take away from a tragedy is “Let’s discriminate against that group”, you’ve learned nothing. It’s sort of like DJ’s fellow nut Bryan Fischer who takes away the existence of gay NSDAP members like Ernst Rohm as why we should discriminate against gay men. Well the vast majority of NSDAP members were heterosexual Lutheran German born males. Well my great grandfather and his father were just that.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:35:39pm
Did you know that, according to Irish law, the Queen is king of Ireland? Or that selling horses outside greater Dublin would result in death?

Oldie but goodie.
bbc.co.uk

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:35:49pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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Extremists work at teh Republican Party too. You dont’ see me saying it’s okay to shoot up RNC headquarters.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:36:18pm

re: #199 Nyet

Oldie but goodie.
bbc.co.uk

Now you know why my family on that side left wink.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:37:00pm

re: #195 CuriousLurker

Yeah, they’re like a drowning person flailing around and grabbing hold of anything that looks like it might float and help them survive.

It’s pretty damn pathetic honestly.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:39:20pm

Dear flew a Confederate flag in front of his home in South Carolina: Planned Parenthood Suspect Was Arrested For Being a ‘Peeping Tom’ and Shooting His Neighbor’s Dog | VICE News

A year later, in 2003, Dear was arrested for animal cruelty. The charges were dropped a year later. The complaint against him states that Douglas Moore, Dear’s other neighbor, was with his step-son doing yard work. Moore alleged that his dog was walking down the driveway when “a shot was fired from the residence next to his.” The incident report describes Dear’s home as having an American flag and a “Rebel” (Confederate) flag flying in front of it.”

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Tigger2  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:41:03pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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Never mind the fact that what PP does is legal. I don’t consider anyone working there or supporting PP extremist to support something legal.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:42:54pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

They’re flailing around just a bit more than usual because this time a police officer got murdered. I don’t think this detail is going to be lost on police departments around the country, no matter how conservative or Republican they may or may not be. It’s also a long holiday weekend and they won’t have any real talking points to work off of til Monday. So they get to flail and puff up in their faux manly bullshit a little longer than the norm.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:43:06pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

And this will be used by the twilight zone denizens to prove he’s a Dem.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:46:31pm

re: #206 Nyet

And this will be used by the twilight zone denizens to prove he’s a Dem.

Everything will.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:48:00pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Obviously he is one of those anti abortion, confederate flag waving liberals.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:54:19pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

Obviously he is one of those anti abortion, confederate flag waving liberals.

Animal abusin’ too.

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allegro  Nov 28, 2015 • 1:55:48pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Animal abusin’ too.

From his mug shot it appears he has little affinity for bathing so hippie too.

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Nyet  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:00:39pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Animal abusin’ too.

Sheep are afraid of him.

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ElaineBenis  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:05:47pm

I was shocked (I know, I know, I shouldn’t have been) that that PP clinic has a ‘safe room’ and a stockpile of bulletproof vests.

To any Right Wing Christian Patriot viewing this: Those things are not to protect PP patients and workers from Muslims. Or war refugees. Or Hispanic illegals. Or black thugs. Perhaps you should take a good long look in the mirror.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:14:31pm

I really think there needs to be a movement to get abortions moved into hospitals. These stand alone clinics are easy targets and make it super easy for women to be singled out and harassed for so much as parking their cars there. If the procedures were done in Women’s medical centers in hospitals wouldn’t they be safer over the long term? I know there’s probably always going to be medical staff that might leak information about patients or hospitals getting threatened, but I would think it would make it more difficult for these forced birth assholes to invade a hospital than a stand alone clinic. I don’t know, I just feel like what we’re doing here isn’t working, and the clinics being shut down and harassed might be more difficult if this couldn’t be just pinned on a “devil”, in this case Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood isn’t the only entity who provides or refers women to get abortions either.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:16:53pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:17:33pm

re: #213 A Mom Anon

Not much chance of that with Catholic Healthcare buying up hospitals all across the country. Three out of four where I live are all owned by CH, as well as a number of doctor’s practices. including mine.

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Skip Intro  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:20:03pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

“Live, From Trump Towers!”, so you just know it’s going to be a real classy affair.

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ElaineBenis  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:20:35pm

I was under the impression that the Catholics (and maybe some other churches) have bought up many/all the hospitals in many areas?

ETA - Oops Skip beat me to the punch.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:21:07pm

There are rumors that the shooter was a member of “Christian Identity” (does anyone have a link?) CI is a fucked up movement: notable members include Erik Rudolph and Randy Weaver. They believe that black people are subhuman and that Jews are evil. Many are pro slavery and either Holocaust deniers or think it was a good thing. The only difference between them and Nazis is they are “pro American” rather than “pro German.”

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thedopefishlives  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:21:47pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

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Baaaaaa, bitch.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:26:54pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

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She seems crazy nice…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:27:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:29:26pm
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:30:21pm

re: #204 Tigger2

Never mind the fact that what PP does is legal. I don’t consider anyone working there or supporting PP extremist to support something legal.

His meth dealer told him they were extremists and should be ill-eagle..

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:30:39pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

They’re all sky grifters.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:31:03pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:31:51pm

Looking at the mugshots, I could almost believe that this guy walked in off the street and had no idea who he was shooting at. When old mountain-dwelling white guys like that go off the rails, it’s 50/50 whether they even know who they’re aiming for. I’m not making the “mental health” excuse, but usually the explicitly political killers leave a screed somewhere, so I’m going to reserve full judgement until there’s better info.

Edit: Aaaand better info was just posted above while I was writing. If he was breaking in, he knew where he was headed.

I hope we get more info about who his friends are soon.

Edit 2 - quote from KKTV’s website:

“Authorities have confirmed that the alleged shooter Robert Lewis Dear, 57, has a Park County address in the Hartsel area. This is an extremely complex ongoing criminal investigation. THE PARK COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE IS NOT ALLOWING anyone near the residence and the entrance is being guarded by Sheriff’s Deputies. News Media are advised not to attempt to go to the address at this time…The men and women of the Park County Sheriff’s Office stand in unity with the Colorado Springs Police Department and the citizens of Colorado Springs.”

So, if he had a computer, they’re probably looking through it right now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:32:16pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Not being a Republican doesn’t mean he’s left wing. Hell if anything, I imagien he’s one of these who thinks the R’s are too liberal. And you’re right. He’s a Christian terrorist.

Republicans are not conservative enough for him

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:42:30pm
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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:42:51pm

OK here’s something that’s been bugging me since last night. All of the news reports I saw at 11 PM said this PP location was in a strip mall. But the maps and photos of the location show it’s not located in a strip mall and is a free standing building. I get that there may have been a strip mall in the area, but the PP office (unless the maps and location are not correct and this is a different PP office) I saw was by itself. Our local news coverage of this in Atlanta was abysmal, but that’s not a shock, most news outlets are crap these days. So, am I off on this or am I missing something?

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Cheechako  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:43:34pm

OT - This is for anyone complaining about their weather today. Take a look at the forecast for my hometown:

Rest Of Today Rain…heavy at times. Highs around 41. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph.

Tonight Rain…heavy at times. Lows around 39. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph.

Sunday Rain…heavy at times in the morning…then chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs around 42. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph.

Sunday Night Rain. Lows around 36. Southeast wind 15 mph.

Monday Rain likely. Highs around 41. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph.

Monday Night Rain. Lows around 37.

Tuesday Rain. Highs around 41.

Tuesday Night Rain. Lows around 36.

Wednesday Rain likely. Highs around 41.

Wednesday Night Rain likely. Lows around 35.

Thursday Rain likely. Highs around 39.

Thursday Night Rain likely. Lows around 34.

Friday Rain likely. Highs around 39.

Predicting 4-6 inches of rain between today and Sunday evening with local areas getting up to 10 inches. If it was just a few degrees colder and this amount of moisture was snow, my snow-blower would give up and die.

Thanks El Nino!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:44:28pm

re: #229 A Mom Anon

OK here’s something that’s been bugging me since last night. All of the news reports I saw at 11 PM said this PP location was in a strip mall. But the maps and photos of the location show it’s not located in a strip mall and is a free standing building. I get that there may have been a strip mall in the area, but the PP office (unless the maps and location are not correct and this is a different PP office) I saw was by itself. Our local news coverage of this in Atlanta was abysmal, but that’s not a shock, most news outlets are crap these days. So, am I off on this or am I missing something?

somebody tweeted it was a strip mall and some intern duly reported it, at which point it became news…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:44:42pm

re: #229 A Mom Anon

The building was stand-alone with its own parking lot.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:46:34pm

re: #229 A Mom Anon

The strip center was just south of the Planned Parenthood location.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:48:30pm

re: #230 Cheechako

OT - This is for anyone complaining about their weather today. Take a look at the forecast for my hometown:

Predicting 4-6 inches of rain between today and Sunday evening with local areas getting up to 10 inches. If it was just a few degrees colder and this amount of moisture was snow, my snow-blower would give up and die.

Thanks El Nino!!

Irish weather: “It only rained twice last week: From Monday to Wednesday and then from Thursday to Sunday”

Scottish weather: “If ye can see the summit o’ Ben Nevis, it means it’s aboot tae rain. If ye cannae see Ben Nevis then it’s rainin’ awready.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:49:00pm

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

somebody tweeted it was a strip mall and some intern duly reported it, at which point it became news…

When it started, there was loads of confusing and conflicting information on the police/fire scanner.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:49:13pm

Planned Parenthood Shooting Suspect Made Comment About ‘No More Baby Parts’: Sources

Robert Lewis Dear, a North Carolina native who was living in a trailer in Colorado, made statements to police Friday at the scene of the Colorado Springs clinic and in interviews that law enforcement sources described as rantings.

In one statement, made after the suspect was taken in for questioning, Dear said “no more baby parts” in reference to Planned Parenthood, according to two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case.
nbcnews.com

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:49:52pm
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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:52:14pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

See that’s what I thought. I even went and googled it again just to be sure, and it looks like it’s on it’s own, a little island in a big parking lot.

This almost makes it seem like this “it was in a strip mall” thing was manufactured to make it seem random or like a secondary location. Or it was just a dumb mistake made in the confusion and not corrected later.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:52:57pm
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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:56:17pm

re: #233 jaunte

OK, that’s a better view than the one I had seen yesterday. So I guess it could have been just an honest mistake. But to people not familiar with that area, it still sounds like it had like a shop on either side of it. When that’s not the case at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:56:47pm

re: #238 A Mom Anon

In the early part, even the emergency responders were confused.
There was chatter about PP, the bank, the King Sooper grocery, the beauty salon.
They didn’t know if there was more than one shooter.
Lots and lots of initial confusion, but that’s not unusual. A good incident command will get it under control.
But nothing can really be done about media and the public listening to the scanner traffic and reporting/repeating it all as gospel.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:57:38pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 28, 2015 • 2:57:50pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Now we’ll see what happens at the next GOP debate.

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worldknot  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:00:25pm

The lie had its desired result.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:00:44pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:00:52pm
But the sources stressed that Dear said many things to law enforcement and the extent to which the “baby parts” remark played into any decision to target the Planned Parenthood office was not yet clear.

HAHAHA okay.

The amount of sheer #WeJustDontKnow being deployed in this case is simply amazeballs.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:02:16pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. I was going off the picture here and then I just googled the shooting info itself. I probably would have been better off looking up the address and finding it on a map site. The media here in Atlanta still hasn’t corrected that info. I guess in the big picture it’s not that relevant, it just paints a different picture of the area than reality.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:03:03pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:16:28pm

Why the fuck are they humanizing this piece of shit?

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:19:10pm

re: #249 electrotek

Why the fuck are they humanizing this piece of shit?

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It’s the easy way to dehumanize his victims and intended victims.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:22:11pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got a ticket this afternoon for not wearing a seatbelt. Where the fuck were you Jesus? You should have been looking out for me.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:57:11pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey, Canadians are known for being polite and generous. :D

I can vouch for that. I used to manage a private mobile home park/campground in Spokane and we had what we called the “two C’s” as regular campers: Canadians and Californians. Canadians are polite, funny and visiting with their families, looking to get out and have some fun on their vacation. Californians came to camp and all too often they were ol’ farts with attitude that liked to do their best to make everyone around them miserable.

One perfect example was a Californian customer I will never forget, a Mrs. Solomon. Her and her husband had reservations, which was no problem. When customers made their camping reservations they were asked if they had been there before and if they had a preference for a particular site. Mrs. Solomon had not and did not so they were assigned the next open space, the number of which was given to them. A Canadian family had made a reservation too and they were regulars who had a site preference, which was open and so assigned to them.

The problem began when Mrs. Solomon arrived and unbeknownst to me, decided to instruct her husband to park in a spot of her choosing, which just happened to be the spot assigned to the Canadian family that would arrive that day. I saw the Solomon fifth-wheel arrive but assumed they were parking in the space they were assigned and would be up front to register when they were set up. The Canadian family arrived shortly afterward and stopped at the office to check in. They returned soon, stating that someone was already in their spot. When I checked and discovered that Mrs. Solomon had taken their spot, I didn’t even get a chance to say anything about how to resolve this when she informed me that they weren’t moving their rig because it was too much trouble. She told me to give them another open space and the Canadian couple even agreed to move to another space but at that point my inner mule kicked in.

I politely told the Solomons that they would have to move to their assigned space and she threw a fit, telling me that they were leaving and would never return. So they packed up and left in a huff and the Canadian family got the site they had requested. Later that evening I was invited to their site for a couple of shots of whiskey (a regular occurrence with visiting Canadians) and they got to laugh about it a bit more when I told them the rest of the story. At the moment we were tossing shots Mr. & Mrs. Solomon were camped out in an space that we sometimes used for overflow, right in front of the public restrooms. It seems she chose to throw a fit on the Fourth of July weekend and all of the other campgrounds were packed, no openings. So she came back and ‘humbly’ asked if their space was still available, which it was not. I really made it look like I was doing them a favor and set them up in front of the restrooms, which she was now grateful for…lol!

The Solomons never came back, the Canadians did and everybody was happy! ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 28, 2015 • 3:57:53pm

re: #249 electrotek

Why the fuck are they humanizing this piece of shit?

Alleged Planned Parenthood gunman was adrift and alienated

Because he has to be portrayed as an aberration, a lone wolf and atypical of the otherwise upstanding and responsible people who attack PP as baby butchers.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2015 • 6:48:12pm

re: #244 worldknot

The lie had its desired result.

All terrorists don’t blow themselves up or shoot up someplace. Some just inspire/incite.

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Thanos  Nov 28, 2015 • 7:22:30pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

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Check his twitter handle. I’m recalling some of the original “Freemen” and their splinters:
en.wikipedia.org

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Thanos  Nov 28, 2015 • 7:25:19pm
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Shimshon  Nov 29, 2015 • 2:55:01am

re: #249 electrotek

Why the fuck are they humanizing this piece of shit?

Because he’s white and most importantly not Muslim. So it is “mental health” and “alienated” rather than religious conservative lunatic terrorist.


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