Planned Parenthood Issues Statement Condemning Hateful Political Rhetoric Around Recent Tragedy

“Words matter, and hateful rhetoric fuels violence”
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Planned Parenthood Executive Vice President Dawn Laguens has issued a statement about the shootings at their Colorado Springs clinic, accusing Carly Fiorina, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz by name of contributing to the hateful rhetoric and “toxic environment” that reportedly led to this domestic terrorist attack: Planned Parenthood Condemns Political Rhetoric Around Recent Tragedy.

Laguens’ full statement:

“We are grateful for the enormous outpouring of support from people all across the country who are appalled by this act of violence and want to see an end to the hateful rhetoric that fueled it.”

“It is offensive and outrageous that some politicians are now claiming this tragedy has nothing to do with the toxic environment they helped create. Even when the gunman was still inside of our health center, politicians who have long opposed safe and legal abortion were on television pushing their campaign to defund Planned Parenthood and invoking the discredited video smear campaign that reportedly fed this shooter’s rage. Now, Carly Fiorina, Donald Trump, and others are using this tragedy to repeat false claims about Planned Parenthood. Instead of looking for lessons to prevent this from happening in the future, they’re doubling down on their effort to block women from getting preventive health care at Planned Parenthood. Just last week, Ted Cruz accepted the endorsement of a group whose leaders have been convicted and served prison time for threatening to firebomb abortion clinics.”

“One of the lessons of this awful tragedy is that words matter, and hateful rhetoric fuels violence. It’s not enough to denounce the tragedy without also denouncing the poisonous rhetoric that fueled it. Instead, some politicians are continuing to stoke it, which is unconscionable.”

“At Planned Parenthood, our top priority is the safety and wellbeing of our patients and staff. Our doors are open today, in Colorado and across the country, and nothing will deter us from providing high-quality health care to millions of people.”

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2015 • 11:52:05am
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nines09  Nov 30, 2015 • 11:56:28am

Dawn Laguens should be commended on her courage to call out the GOP on their demonization and outright lies.
This latest shooting should be laid right at the feet of the GOP. They have blood on their hands. They are the reason a lunatic killed. They are secretly happy. It’s what they wanted. I would bet the farm on that.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 30, 2015 • 11:58:47am

Glad they are fighting back.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 11:59:11am

re: #2 nines09

Dawn Laguens should be commended on her courage to call out the GOP on their demonization and outright lies.
This latest shooting should be laid right at the feet of the GOP. They have blood on their hands. They are the reason a lunatic killed. They are secretly happy. It’s what they wanted. I would bet the farm on that.

I’m sure some of them are happy, others are disgusted by what their propaganda caused, but most are probably completely in denial, since Conservatives specialize in denial.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:00:03pm

re: #1 Kragar

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Seriously. For as long as I can remember, pro-lifers have been likening abortion to murder and genocide. Hell there was even a website called the Nuremberg Files that publicized the personal info of providers.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:02:02pm

re: #2 nines09

I really hope she has security or police protection. These people are fueled by hatred and perverted righteousness combined with unlimited access to firearms. A toxic cocktail. I really hope this shit stops. I’m scared it won’t.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:04:35pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Seriously. For as long as I can remember, pro-lifers have been likening abortion to murder and genocide. Hell there was even a website called the Nuremberg Files that publicized the personal info of providers.

It goes to show how insanity escalates if no one will tell them they’ve gone off the rails.
It’s worse with the Conservative cult, because they’ll ignore anyone outside the cult who calls them out, and cult members will probably be labeled “Liberal” and expelled if they speak truth to dangerously-stupid Conservative power.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:06:18pm

re: #6 A Mom Anon

I really hope she has security or police protection. These people are fueled by hatred and perverted righteousness combined with unlimited access to firearms. A toxic cocktail. I really hope this shit stops. I’m scared it won’t.

A lot of them are armed too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:06:44pm

I posted this in a comment a few days ago:

Timothy Lee Haste pleaded guilty on Monday to criminal mischief after breaking the windows of the EMW Women’s Surgical Center twice within the past month. He was sentenced to one year in jail, though he was conditionally discharged on the grounds that he have no further contact with the complainant — the only full-time abortion clinic in Kentucky. However, volunteer clinic escorts observed him outside of EMW’s front door on Tuesday and Wednesday and claimed he was bragging about his release to the protesters gathered there.

According to Anne — executive director of EMW who declines to give her last name for security reasons — neither the Louisville Metro Police Department nor prosecutors told her he was being released, nor of the conditions that he was not to be near the clinic. She says a call to LMPD has not been returned.

Two days later, Joe tweeted this:

gaaaaaahhhhh

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:08:09pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

I posted this in a comment a few days ago:

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gaaaaaahhhhh

Well shit.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:11:35pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

“nice little clinic you got there ladies…be a shame if anything happened there….” Jesus.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:11:37pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

More fine American policing. There seem to be so many examples lately.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:12:08pm

Forget Syria. The most dangerous religious extremists are migrants from North and South Carolina.

From Slate

The Terrorists Among Us

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:13:18pm

Also I predict the GOP candidates will wear this statement like a badge of honor. Pissing off PP goes over well with the base.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:13:21pm

I need a drink…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:14:43pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I need a drink…

He sounds reasonable but yeah pro-lifers aren’t hateful at all.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:15:02pm

And in other news about domestic terrorism:

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:16:10pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can PP go over their heads, to the state level cops or the DA for failing to do their fucking jobs? Or is it worse the higher up you go?

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:16:10pm

“It didn’t happen…
…The facts are the facts. That did not happen in New Jersey that day, and it hasn’t happened since.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:16:17pm

re: #17 Dr. Matt

And in other news about domestic terrorism:

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Liberal transgendered I’m certain. //

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:16:36pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

Christie must not want the GOP nomination….

/

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:16:58pm
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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:17:24pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Liberal transgendered I’m certain. //

Democrat Party activists for sure!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:17:33pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart

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Why am I cynical enough to think if it was another state that Trump was lying about, Christie would be going along with it? Now that said, I’m glad he’s condemned it but as i said.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:17:57pm

The candidates’ feelings got all hurtsy that anyone would suggest that their calm, rational political discourse would cause anyone to attempt to attack a live baby dismemberment for lucrative baby parts clinic./

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:18:05pm

re: #23 Dr. Matt

Democrat Party activists for sure!

A false flag ot make the great conservative movement look bad!

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:18:44pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

The paper rolls might be superfluous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:18:50pm

re: #18 A Mom Anon

Can PP go over their heads, to the state level cops or the DA for failing to do their fucking jobs? Or is it worse the higher up you go?

I’ve have a fairly high opinion of the professionalism of the state police at my end of the state, but have no idea about the KSP barracks in the Louisville/western part of the state.

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sffilk  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:19:06pm

And somehow, those who follow the anti-PP candidates will say it was justified, methinks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:19:14pm

THIS ASSHOLE==>

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:19:47pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Why am I cynical enough to think if it was another state that Trump was lying about, Christie would be going along with it? Now that said, I’m glad he’s condemned it but as i said.

Maybe because in his first statement he couldn’t bring himself to actually deny it happened.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:20:01pm

re: #17 Dr. Matt

Four men charged in the shooting of Black Lives Matter protesters

You mean good guys with guns just can’t shoot whoever they want?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:21:17pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe because in his first statement he couldn’t bring himself to actually deny it happened.

naw, Trump said bad things about him in a tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:22:06pm

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

THIS ASSHOLE==>

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Typical asshole Fischer. Maybe someone should tell him that Evangelicals like him didn’t care about Roe until tehy realized they could use it as a tool to gain political influence and power.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:22:43pm

re: #31 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe because in his first statement he couldn’t bring himself to actually deny it happened.

Oh, yeah that’s right.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:22:48pm

re: #30 The Vicious Babushka

THIS ASSHOLE==>

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Obviously the good guys are falling way behind on their abortionists killing quota./

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:22:54pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

naw, Trump said bad things about him in a tweet.

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Sad.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:23:47pm

If Bryan’s that concerned about pregnant women. Maybe he should start a charity that helps poor and unwed mothers out. Oh wait, he’s a slut shaming asshole.

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:25:39pm

I’m curious, is there a non-religious pro-life/anti-choice argument to be made? Because it seems like any argument they make, no matter how superficially well reasoned it seems, is religious at its core.

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gwangung  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:26:00pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I need a drink…

In my church, I was taught abortion was allowable for the first three months.

My Southern Baptist, evangelical church.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:27:07pm
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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:27:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:28:03pm

re: #40 gwangung

In my church, I was taught abortion was allowable for the first three months.

My Southern Baptist, evangelical church.

When Roe was first decided, the only group really against the decision were conservative Catholics. Evangelicals applauded the decision. Don’t know what sparked the change exactly.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:28:18pm

re: #39 KGxvi

I’m curious, is there a non-religious pro-life/anti-choice argument to be made? Because it seems like any argument they make, no matter how superficially well reasoned it seems, is religious at its core.

Also anti-science. And above all, anti-women, which usually stems from the religion.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:29:01pm

re: #39 KGxvi

I’m curious, is there a non-religious pro-life/anti-choice argument to be made? Because it seems like any argument they make, no matter how superficially well reasoned it seems, is religious at its core.

In some science-fiction scenario where a society needs repopulation more than it needs individual rights, maybe. Not in this reality.

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gwangung  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:30:08pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

When Roe was first decided, the only group really against the decision were conservative Catholics. Evangelicals applauded the decision. Don’t know what sparked the change exactly.

Oh, I know. It was a tool used by Dixiecrats to oppose integration.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:31:01pm

re: #32 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

You mean good guys with guns just can’t shoot whoever they want?

/

They’ve only been charged. They might still get off.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:31:03pm

Frustrated Gunman Can’t Believe How Far He Has To Drive To Find Nearest Planned Parenthood Clinic

“God, the nearest one isn’t even in this state. It’s actually faster for me to drive across the border to Santa Fe, and even then it’s still a four-hour trip. That barely leaves me enough time to buy ammo.”

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:33:40pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

I think the anti-science and anti-woman stuff is wrapped up in a certain kind of fundamentalist theology. If you believe this book is divine revelation and therefore contains all the answers to every universal question, then any sort of thinking that challenges it - even when based on observation and evidence that contradicts this book - must be stopped. But I’ve known some pro-life women (usually Catholic) who I wouldn’t call anti-science or anti-woman, but I haven’t heard any of them make an argument that isn’t based on some sort of theology.

re: #45 jaunte

Yeah, about the only argument I could think of, off the top of my head, was “need babies to replace the people dying” - but when the world population is over 7 billion, I think we’re okay on that point from a policy position.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:33:51pm

Louisville Clinic Escorts tweets on Friday before the shooting in Colorado Springs:

The day after the shooting:

sigh

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Tigger2  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:34:35pm
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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:36:19pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting that both these fucking anti woman assholes were busy at clinics on the same day…..

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:37:35pm

re: #17 Dr. Matt

And in other news about domestic terrorism:

Needs mugshots.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:38:03pm

re: #49 KGxvi

I think the anti-science and anti-woman stuff is wrapped up in a certain kind of fundamentalist theology. If you believe this book is divine revelation and therefore contains all the answers to every universal question, then any sort of thinking that challenges it - even when based on observation and evidence that contradicts this book - must be stopped. But I’ve known some pro-life women (usually Catholic) who I wouldn’t call anti-science or anti-woman, but I haven’t heard any of them make an argument that isn’t based on some sort of theology.

Catholics are anti women, maybe not as a personal belief, but if they participate in the Church, they participate in keeping women down. IMHO, as an ex-Catholic.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:41:08pm

re: #39 KGxvi

I’m curious, is there a non-religious pro-life/anti-choice argument to be made? Because it seems like any argument they make, no matter how superficially well reasoned it seems, is religious at its core.

Hmmmmm…..

The arguments claim to be religious, but honestly, the Bible sure doesn’t give a lot of support to the idea of personhood upon achieving diploidy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:43:08pm

re: #52 A Mom Anon

Interesting that both these fucking anti woman assholes were busy at clinics on the same day…..

Other than the “morning after pill”, the Louisville PP doesn’t do abortions; referrals only.

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gwangung  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:43:26pm

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

Hmmmmm…..

The arguments claim to be religious, but honestly, the Bible sure doesn’t give a lot of support to the idea of personhood upon achieving diploidy.

Well, my doctrine was it achieved it with quickening (i.e., after the first trimester, when the baby starts to move).

But, as usual, men make up new doctrine and pass it off as spiritually inspired…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:43:29pm

It’s nearly 2 pm in Colorado Springs. How come Robert Lewis Dear hasn’t made an appearance in court yet?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:43:50pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Other than the “morning after pill”, the Louisville PP doesn’t do abortions; referrals only.

You speak as if that matters to them.

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b.d.  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:44:51pm

re: #59 Dr. Matt

It’s nearly 2 pm in Colorado Springs. How come Robert Lewis Dear hasn’t made an appearance in court yet?

He killed a cop, they might be cleaning him up after he fell down the stairs.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:46:13pm

I sure hope UpChuck is holding his breath while he waits.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:47:12pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sure hope UpChuck is holding his breath while he waits.

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This guy, man……

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nines09  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:49:03pm

re: #4 No Country For Old Haters

I’m sure some of them are happy, others are disgusted by what their propaganda caused, but most are probably completely in denial, since Conservatives specialize in denial.

Seems people in compounds don’t like truth seeping in. I guess I’m the only one who senses joy in the words and actions of the Cult? They shit on everything, and when the shit hits the fan, it’s the other guy. I call it like I see it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:49:08pm

re: #41 The Vicious Babushka

Don’t fuck and you won’t get pregnant and then you don’t have to murder the baby you made
— John Paul Jones (@johnjones1776)

This guy sounds like a real dear heart.

/

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Jayleia  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:49:37pm

re: #61 b.d.

and bounced…several times.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:49:49pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sure hope UpChuck is holding his breath while he waits.

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THEY STOLED UPCHUCKS STORY AND NOW SOMEBODY ELSE IS GETTING PAID FOR THIS RESEARCH!!!!!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:50:08pm

From that earlier WaPo article kerfluffle:

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:50:15pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:50:29pm

re: #61 b.d.

He killed a cop, they might be cleaning him up after he fell down the stairs.

//

He fell on a knife 9 times…..

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Snarknado!  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:50:36pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Catholics are anti women, maybe not as a personal belief, but if they participate in the Church, they participate in keeping women down. IMHO, as an ex-Catholic.

To the extent that they fully conform to current doctrine, yes. Some churches in my area (Northern California) quietly ignore “received doctrine” in all sorts of ways while not openly breaking with anyone.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:51:51pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

What the…oh wait, I see it’s Ron Fournier. That explains a lot.

/

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:52:30pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sure hope UpChuck is holding his breath while he waits.

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He spends every waking moment shilling for cash. He must be hurting. Good.

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allegro  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:54:30pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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To be more accurate it isn’t PP doing the donations, it’s the women from whom the tissues originated. PP just facilitates the donation to research facilities.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:54:51pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t think it totally matters to a lot of these guys. There are more than a few people who think PP= abortion and that’s all they do. I’ve known some people down here who honestly think that even the clinics that say they don’t do abortions are lying. The dude in Louisville was standing outside calling them murderers, he’s probably not really giving a shit what they do inside, just what he’s been told they do. I’d bet most of the people spouting all this crap have never set foot inside a private ob/gyn practice let alone a PP clinic. I just don’t get the vibe these people understand human biology in the slightest.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:54:57pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why the hell would you do the research before being paid a penny?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:55:09pm

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Why the hell would you do the research before being paid a penny?

CCJ

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:55:30pm

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Why the hell would you do the research before being paid a penny?

It’s UpChuck’s wonderful business model…

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allegro  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:56:08pm

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

Why the hell would you do the research before being paid a penny?

Extortion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:56:48pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:57:28pm

re: #39 KGxvi

I’m curious, is there a non-religious pro-life/anti-choice argument to be made? Because it seems like any argument they make, no matter how superficially well reasoned it seems, is religious at its core.

I read about one argument which I personally think is daft that we have a moral obligation to have as many children as possible to maximize the number of people who have the opportunity to experience happiness, though the people who make this argument aren’t expressly opposed to abortion rights; they just say its arguably immoral not to have as many babies as you can.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:57:30pm

At what point does PP, if at all, consider closing or moving locations due to security risks?

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:57:48pm
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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:57:55pm

Mental health break from the stupid:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:58:15pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he was on pot he would have been LESS likely to go on a rampage.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:58:28pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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1) If you provide a good or service for cost or less, is it really ‘Selling’?

2) EVEN IF the answer to #1 is “Yes”, since PP has announced it will no longer charge even its costs for tissue donations, isn’t if just a flat out lie to call it ‘Selling’?

3) Do you call it ‘selling body parts’ when a surgeon or hospital charges to remove and preserve donated organs from cadavers?

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:59:01pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

If anyone is in need of a special batch of brownies it’s this guy. He might be a lot less of an asshole, or at least not so “tanked up” on hate. Jesus, what year is he stuck in?

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allegro  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:59:12pm

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

I read about one argument which I personally think is daft that we have a moral obligation to have as many children as possible to maximize the number of people who have the opportunity to experience happiness, though the people who make this argument aren’t expressly opposed to abortion rights; they just say its arguably immoral not to have as many babies as you can.

What about the many people who would become unhappy being parents?

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Snarknado!  Nov 30, 2015 • 12:59:16pm

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

I read about one argument which I personally think is daft that we have a moral obligation to have as many children as possible to maximize the number of people who have the opportunity to experience happiness, though the people who make this argument aren’t expressly opposed to abortion rights; they just say its arguably immoral not to have as many babies as you can.

Because hungry people who are crammed together in shantytowns are the happiest on earth.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:00:13pm

Can’t listen now unfortunately.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:00:24pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I need a drink…

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:01:07pm

re: #87 A Mom Anon

If anyone is in need of a special batch of brownies it’s this guy. He might be a lot less of an asshole, or at least not so “tanked up” on hate. Jesus, what year is he stuck in?

You can order edibles on the Internet these days. It’s an age of wonders.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:02:17pm

OT - NYS corruption watch:

If Silver is convicted, he’d be the 2d Speaker of the Assembly to get convicted in the last 3 to hold the spot (though Mel Miller’s charges were ultimately overturned).

The corruption stems in part from the fact that the legislature continues to operate as a part-time venture, which means legislators can hold outside positions, opening up their actions to corrupt activities, coordinating benefits for personal enrichment, etc.

Eliminate the part time legislature - eliminating the outside jobs, and you’d reduce the corruption significantly. Curiously, there’s little support for this in the legislature (because they like their outside gigs).

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:03:03pm

re: #88 allegro

What about the many people who would become unhappy being parents?

They would be outnumbered by their happy children, presumably.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:04:23pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

CBS anchor lady:
“Still not clear at this point what motive there may have been.”

Um …

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:05:48pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White

The charges/reimbursement for transport are carved out exceptions for fetal tissue donations for research under federal law.

(d) DEFINITIONS - For purposes of this section:
(1) The term human fetal tissue’ has the meaning given such term in section 498A(f).
(2) The term interstate commerce’ has the meaning given such term in section 201(b) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
(3) The term valuable consideration’ does not include reasonable payments associated with the transportation, implantation, processing, preservation, quality control, or storage of human fetal tissue.’.

The extremists know this, but don’t want people to pay attention to the law. That’s why the whole PP hearing was a sham. It was built on a lie, and everyone knows it. The GOP just doesn’t give a shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:06:12pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:06:51pm

re: #95 goddamnedfrank

Um …

Yeah, it’s a mystery.

/

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:07:33pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WTF.

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b_sharp  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:09:58pm

re: #96 lawhawk

The charges/reimbursement for transport are carved out exceptions for fetal tissue donations for research under federal law.

The extremists know this, but don’t want people to pay attention to the law. That’s why the whole PP hearing was a sham. It was built on a lie, and everyone knows it. The GOP just doesn’t give a shit.

Have you tweeted this yet?

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:10:09pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:10:11pm

re: #93 lawhawk

Guilty on all counts.

Ouch. That’s gonna leave a mark. I worked in the legislature way back when, and Silver ran the place with an iron fist. He tolerated no dissent and closely managed the Democratic caucus which he was leader of.

One of the three men in the room that negotiated the budgets. He was there when Spitzer got canned. When Joe Bruno got canned. When David Paterson fumbled his way through, and now he’s toast. So much for being the longest running Speaker in state history when his ultimate legacy is one of corruption and covering for sexual assaults among staffers and members of the Assembly.

Good riddance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:10:33pm

Less than a week after he was released from jail for twice breaking the windows of the EMW Women’s Surgery Center — and returning to the clinic in the following days to allegedly brag about his release — Timothy Lee Haste was arrested again on Friday two blocks from the clinic on unrelated charges and currently remains incarcerated.

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Police reports indicate that Haste’s second arrest on Friday had no direct connection to the EMW clinic, though he also has been charged with violating his probation conditions from last week. Haste was charged with public intoxication, third-degree criminal trespassing and third-degree terroristic threatening on Friday after being found trespassing at a closed business while drunk. The latter charge was due to Haste allegedly telling a police officer at U of L Hospital that “the next time he saw Officer on the street, he was going to ‘Kick Officer’s ass.’”

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:11:57pm

re: #102 lawhawk

Guilty on all counts.

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Ouch. That’s gonna leave a mark. I worked in the legislature way back when, and Silver ran the place with an iron fist. He tolerated no dissent and closely managed the Democratic caucus which he was leader of.

One of the three men in the room that negotiated the budgets. He was there when Spitzer got canned. When Joe Bruno got canned. When David Paterson fumbled his way through, and now he’s toast. So much for being the longest running Speaker in state history when his ultimate legacy is one of corruption and covering for sexual assaults among staffers and members of the Assembly.

Good riddance.

HURR HURR DEMOCRAT!!!!!!111!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:12:48pm

re: #96 lawhawk

The charges/reimbursement for transport are carved out exceptions for fetal tissue donations for research under federal law.

The extremists know this, but don’t want people to pay attention to the law. That’s why the whole PP hearing was a sham. It was built on a lie, and everyone knows it. The GOP just doesn’t give a shit.

Well, certainly the ones who ran the hearing knew it. The base? They’re convinced PP higher ups are buying Lambos with all the money from fetus babby parts, which are being harvested at every PP in the entire United States.

They’re like the monsters in a horror flick, but instead of ‘Bullets don’t stop them!’, it’s facts that they’re impervious to, as long as it aligns with their preferred reality.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:13:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:13:16pm

re: #101 No Country For Old Haters

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I’m honestly surprised no one has blamed Obama yet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:14:00pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:14:20pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:15:23pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:15:34pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I’m honestly surprised no one has blamed Obama yet.

Fox News did.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:16:22pm

re: #111 Single-handed sailor

Fox News did.

My shocked face. I did miss that though.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:16:46pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

snip

Speaking of Kentucky, what’s the latest regarding Kim Davis and her campaign to overturn the Supreme Court?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:17:41pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I’m honestly surprised no one has blamed Obama yet.

If you don’t blame Obama it proves you’re a biased Obot who needs to Wake Up America!
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:18:36pm

Another dumb wingnut using a graphic with my watermark on it for an avi==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:22:04pm

re: #113 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Speaking of Kentucky, what’s the latest regarding Kim Davis and her campaign to overturn the Supreme Court?

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:22:11pm

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

Another dumb wingnut using a graphic with my watermark on it for an avi==>

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:22:42pm

re: #96 lawhawk

The charges/reimbursement for transport are carved out exceptions for fetal tissue donations for research under federal law.

The extremists know this, but don’t want people to pay attention to the law. That’s why the whole PP hearing was a sham. It was built on a lie, and everyone knows it. The GOP just doesn’t give a shit.

Thank you for posting that. I knew that there was an allowance for what you would consider “Administrative and Technological” costs, but wasn’t sure where it was. This is going to be very handy in hopefully making some people realize that they are speaking from a position of ignorance. The question will be, once that ignorance has been corrected, will they continue to say the same thing. If so, then they are willful liars and I will strike down upon them with great vengeance and furious anger. (or at least a strongly worded comment of FB)

RBS

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:23:43pm

Party of God.

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:24:54pm

re: #119 jaunte

I wasn’t aware that being Republican was a religion.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:25:31pm

re: #120 Lidane

Or being white.

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gwangung  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:25:56pm

re: #120 Lidane

I wasn’t aware that being Republican was a religion.

Neither is being white.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:26:25pm

re: #120 Lidane

I wasn’t aware that being Republican was a religion.

re: #121 jaunte

Or being white.

HURR HURR WHITE CHRISTIAN IS A MINORITY!!!! CANS HAZ AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS NOW!!!!!!!

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:26:31pm

Maybe this is a new tax-evasion ploy.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:26:55pm

re: #119 jaunte

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Party of God.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:27:25pm

re: #119 jaunte

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Party of God.

Funny since oyu guys do that with Muslims for terrorism all the fucking time. No one is blaming all Christians for this. We are blaming right wing assholes like you who liken PP to Dr. Mengele yes but your’e not all Christians.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:27:43pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks,

So in the meantime her office is continuing to allow SSM with or without her signature?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:28:01pm

re: #125 No Country For Old Haters

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Conservatives live in a world where they’re constantly minding their own busienss until meanie liberals persecute hem.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:28:51pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Funny since oyu guys do that with Muslims for terrorism all the fucking time. No one is blaming all Christians for this. We are blaming right wing assholes like you who liken PP to Dr. Mengele yes but your’e not all Christians.

It could be argued that they’re not Christian at all, since they just use religion to try to control people, and take no comfort in it at all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:28:58pm

THIS ASSHOLE==>

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:29:35pm

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

THIS ASSHOLE==>

What is comedian Steven Crowder dribbling about now?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:30:03pm

re: #127 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Thanks,

So in the meantime her office is continuing to allow SSM with or without her signature?

without her signature

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:30:36pm

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

THIS ASSHOLE==>

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Funny Phyillis Schalfry admits the pay gap exists but says women don’t care. As for rape culture, are you fucking kidding me Stevie? HOw many times do we hear shits like you say “She was asking for it the way she dressed.” As for abortion not being a right, that makes you at odds with settled law and the Western world. It does make you have a lot in common with ISIS though.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:31:13pm

re: #130 The Vicious Babushka

THIS ASSHOLE==>

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:31:26pm

re: #131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What is comedian Steven Crowder dribbling about now?

Basically the usual derp about how bad things only happen to women in Muslim countries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:31:49pm

another sigh…

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:31:59pm

re: #131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What is comedian Steven Crowder dribbling about now?

Wingnuts really believe that spewing hate and lies is “comedy.” They fail completely.

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:32:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:32:45pm

re: #137 No Country For Old Haters

Wingnuts really believe that spewing hate and lies is “comedy.” They fail completely.

Wingnut humor sucks.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:33:06pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:33:27pm

re: #137 No Country For Old Haters

Wingnuts really believe that spewing hate and lies is “comedy.” They fail completely.

He thought it was high-lari-ous when Rush said it.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:33:41pm

re: #138 Lidane

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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:33:55pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Right Wing Watch @RightWingWatch

Bryan Fischer speculates that the Colorado Planned Parenthood shooter may have just been “tanked up on pot”: bit.ly

3:45 PM - 30 Nov 2015

I know what he means. I know of times when smoking the herbs when younger made me a cereal killer!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:34:05pm

re: #138 Lidane

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Except they’er angered by asholes like you who were calling their ancestors antisemitic slurs years ago and blaming the Jewish people for the CIvil Rights movement.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:34:42pm

re: #138 Lidane

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makeitstop  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:34:47pm

re: #131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What is comedian Steven Crowder dribbling about now?

The only thing funny about Crowder is his calling himself a comedian.

The next funny thing he says will be his first. Conservatives suck at humor.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:34:49pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh FFS. Pattern of behavior anyone? Given the chance, something flammable and/or a firearm, this guy would be guilty of more than threatening a cop. Come on. WTF?

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gwangung  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:35:26pm

re: #142 No Country For Old Haters

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A lot of Jewish folks are MAKING the comparisons…

bittergertrude.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:35:34pm

The Jewish people know what it’s like to be turned away due to bigotry and paranoia. That’s why so many Jewish people have embraced the refugees. I wouldn’t expect someone who thinks he’s supportive of the Jewish people simply because he loves Bibi to get that though.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:36:27pm
“…among the 27 fatal terror attacks inflicted in this country since 9/11, 20 were committed by domestic right-wing extremists. (The other seven attacks were committed by domestic jihadists, not by foreign terrorist organizations.) Of the 77 people killed in these 27 incidents, two-thirds died at the hands of anti-abortion fanatics, “Christian Identity” zealots, white anti-Semites, or other right-wing militants.”slate.com
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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:36:33pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

Except they’er angered by asholes like you who were calling their ancestors antisemitic slurs years ago and blaming the Jewish people for the CIvil Rights movement.

If wingnuts knew their own history (or present), many of them would stop their offensive derp. Many would embrace the hate, but the fantasy-roleplayers might rein themselves in.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:36:36pm

re: #148 gwangung

A lot of Jewish folks are MAKING the comparisons…

bittergertrude.com

Yeah but they’re not Evangelical Christian speaking for Jews so they don’t count.

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Tigger2  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:37:55pm

re: #131 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What is comedian Steven Crowder dribbling about now?

That dickhead tried to follow me on twitter I blocked him fast.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:38:17pm

re: #134 No Country For Old Haters

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The last time I responded to Crowder with facts about the gender gap, I was swarmed in my mentions by his idiot followers who were all HURR HURR WOMENS DONTS DESERVE TO GET TEH SAME PAY AS MENS BECAUSE THAY TAKES DEGREES IN LESBIAN THEATER INSTEAD OF REAL HE-MAN ENGINEERING!!!!1!!!!!

When I pointed out that I have a Math degree and work in the STEM field, they were all HURR HURR TEH WOMENS TAKE OFF TEH MOAR TIMES OFF BECAUSE OF THERE BABBY-HAVINGS!!!1!!!!!! THAY DONTS WORK TEH OVERTIMES LIKE TEH MANS!!!!1!!!

When I pointed out that I have put in a shit ton of overtime, missing birthdays, anniversaries, family events they were all OH TOO BAD SUCKS TO BE U DON’T TAKE A JERB IF YOU WANT ALL TEH TIMES OFF!!!!!!!!

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:38:52pm

It’s funny because it’s true. Heh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:40:27pm

theonion.com
A very compassionate move by Wayne LaPierre.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:40:44pm

re: #147 A Mom Anon

Oh FFS. Pattern of behavior anyone? Given the chance, something flammable and/or a firearm, this guy would be guilty of more than threatening a cop. Come on. WTF?

More insanity:

Major Andrea Brown, LMPD’s First Division Commander, told IL today — prior to her learning about Haste’s second arrest — that she has been in contact with EMW’s director since last week but was not made aware of Haste’s release last Monday.

“I told our guys to please be vigilant around there, look out and make sure he’s not hanging around and harassing people,” said Brown. “I don’t want people to get up in arms… I don’t want people to think we’re not doing what we should be doing. And if we’re not, I told Anne to call and let me know so we can fix that. But unfortunately, sometimes the way the law is written there’s only so much we can do. The best thing to do is stay visible around there, and if we see people that are harassing them — of course we can’t take sides — to handle that situation accordingly.”

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Though Haste currently is in jail (he’s deemed “high risk” but has a $100 bond on his new charges), Brown previously indicated that Haste could not be arrested for standing outside the clinic with the other protesters, though she said a detective on the case would check on whether that was true today.

“He can walk on the sidewalk,” said Brown. “If he’s engaged in any kind of criminal activity and threatening them, then we can take action for that. But as we can tell right now, there’s not any kind of order that we see, but we’ll be looking into that today. And if so, we’ll let everyone know that there’s an order for him to have no contact with the facility.

The freaking order to stay away was a condition of his release last Monday!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:42:04pm

re: #155 Lidane

It’s funny because it’s true. Heh.

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Chip Kelly will be looking for new work in January.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:42:16pm

re: #68 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Damn! I know my shocked face is around here somewhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:44:30pm
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Belafon  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:45:52pm

re: #150 jaunte

So, all 27 attacks were done by right wing extremists, some of whom were Muslim.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:48:08pm

re: #161 Belafon

Jonah Goldberg’s new book will tell us all why Islamic radicals are actually leftists.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:50:12pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh Jesus Tapdancing Christ. Are you kidding me? What the hell?

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:50:30pm

Cue the GOP adding in their pet causes as amendments in 3…2…1….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:51:22pm

re: #162 jaunte

Jonah Goldberg’s new book will tell us all why Islamic radicals are actually leftists.

Many Jews are leftists. Jews don’t eat pork. Muslims don’t eat pork. Therefore Muslims are Jews!

Wait. That can’t be right.
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:51:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:52:07pm

re: #164 Lidane

Cue the GOP adding in their pet causes as amendments in 3…2…1….

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They can’t pass the AUMF because they’re not convinced Obama will do anything, 8000 airstrikes notwithstanding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:54:59pm

Totally OT, but I have only one comment about last night’s TWD.

There are certain times when duct tape is the only option.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:55:06pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Obama’s gonna let in 100,000…no, 150,000…no, 250,000 Syrian refugees! Yeah, that’s good! And he’s gonna put them in FEMA camps….no, Army bases!…no, Indian reservations! Navajo reservations! Yeah, that’s the ticket!”

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:55:09pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Miami, South Carolina, Missouri, or Maryland? Those appear to be the top jobs still open in college.

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:56:50pm

re: #165 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait. That can’t be right.

OF COURSE IT’S NOT RIGHT!!!11! IT’S LEFTISTS!! CHECKMATE LIBTARDS

leftists… all the way down.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 1:58:18pm

As always, what I need to see / read / hear seems to appear when it’s needed.

RBS

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:00:55pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

“Obama’s gonna let in 100,000…no, 150,000…no, 250,000 Syrian refugees! Yeah, that’s good! And he’s gonna put them in FEMA camps….no, Army bases!…no, Indian reservations! Navajo reservations! Yeah, that’s the ticket!”

Perhaps he should hide them at Disney’s California adventure

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:01:19pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are certain times when duct tape is the only option.

I was at a Target a while back, with a lady friend (not lady friend lady friend, but a friend who is a lady), one of us was in the process of moving or having to do some sort of home improvement project… so we were standing in the aisle where they had the duct tape (among other items), and they had Hello Kitty duct tape - I told her she should get it, just because. She kind of blew me off and I told her, “the only two tools you really need are a hammer and duct tape.” She rolled her eyes, but there was a guy standing in the aisle who kind of chuckled. We look at him and he says, “yeah, never really thought about it, but he’s right.”

So, that’s my life advice for the day: hammer and duct tape. If you can’t solve the problem with those two items, it’s not solvable.

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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:04:02pm

re: #175 KGxvi

I was at a Target a while back, with a lady friend (not lady friend lady friend, but a friend who is a lady), one of us was in the process of moving or having to do some sort of home improvement project… so we were standing in the aisle where they had the duct tape (among other items), and they had Hello Kitty duct tape - I told her she should get it, just because. She kind of blew me off and I told her, “the only two tools you really need are a hammer and duct tape.” She rolled her eyes, but there was a guy standing in the aisle who kind of chuckled. We look at him and he says, “yeah, never really thought about it, but he’s right.”

So, that’s my life advice for the day: hammer and duct tape. If you can’t solve the problem with those two items, it’s not solvable.

In the Army there were three tools - a sledge hammer, a crow bar & duct tape. But civilian items are a wee bit more fragile, I suppose.

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:05:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:05:43pm

re: #175 KGxvi

re: #176 William Lewis

And WD40.

And chocolate.

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makeitstop  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:07:33pm

re: #175 KGxvi

I was at a Target a while back, with a lady friend (not lady friend lady friend, but a friend who is a lady), one of us was in the process of moving or having to do some sort of home improvement project… so we were standing in the aisle where they had the duct tape (among other items), and they had Hello Kitty duct tape - I told her she should get it, just because. She kind of blew me off and I told her, “the only two tools you really need are a hammer and duct tape.” She rolled her eyes, but there was a guy standing in the aisle who kind of chuckled. We look at him and he says, “yeah, never really thought about it, but he’s right.”

So, that’s my life advice for the day: hammer and duct tape. If you can’t solve the problem with those two items, it’s not solvable.

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:07:40pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:07:52pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

So…sending the Syrian refugees to Indian reservations. Even if true, wouldn’t RWNJ kinda like this? This way good White Patriot Americans wouldn’t have to be terrorized by women and children from the ME, the refugees would be sequestered from the regular population?

I know, shouldn’t try to apply logic here….

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:15:55pm

“After all these years and millions of babies that have gone to their death, violence is to be anticipated,” said Judie Brown, president of American Life League, in a phone interview with MSNBC. “Because it’s acceptable to violently kill a baby, so why isn’t it acceptable to violently kill other people?

“We never approve of violence against anybody, whether it’s the unborn babies or the clients of Planned Parenthood or anybody else,” Ann Scheidler, vice president of the Pro-Life Action League, told MSNBC. But, she added, “it’s not the fault of the pro-life movement that someone found out that Planned Parenthood is doing these things. It’s the fault of Planned Parenthood for selling the baby parts.

Not so much a defense as a “Look what you made us do”.

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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:16:28pm

Steve Kornacki is filling in for Chuck Todd on his MSNBC show tonight.

He just announced he would be speaking with two of the African America pastors that met with TRUMP® today.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:16:52pm

re: #182 Kragar

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Not so much a defense as a “Look what you made us do”.

The abusive husband defense. “I didn’t mean to hit her, but she kept making me angry!”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:18:05pm

re: #182 Kragar

Not so much a defense as a “Look what you made us do”.

SELLING BABY PARTS WE HAVE PROOFS WATCH ALL HOURS OF VIDEO AND YOU SEE!!!!

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:20:10pm

Your nerd moment of the day:

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:20:53pm

re: #186 Lidane

Your nerd moment of the day:

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“Let’s go, pal.”

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:23:52pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:25:03pm

re: #182 Kragar

Not so much a defense as a “Look what you made us do”.

The Magical Balance Butcher is going to become a fixture in RW talking points from this point on…

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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:31:37pm

re: #182 Kragar

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Not so much a defense as a “Look what you made us do”.

GOP Spokesman: “People need to protect themselves from anyone that takes our lying seriously and wants to act on it. We are sorry, we are in a political season and we are just practicing good politics. So, please watch yourselves around anything and anyone we target in our hit pieces. We can not control ourselves or those weak-minded individuals that can’t tell the difference betwen bullshit and reality. Thank you and remember vote Republican!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:32:55pm
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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:32:56pm

re: #182 Kragar

That’s not how the justifiable homicide defense works.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:34:32pm

Repeat from previous threads:

ATTENTION ALL ACTIVE HETEROSEXUAL AMERICAN MALES

If you plan to have sex with a woman (even your wife) for anything other than purposes of procreation, then you had better make sure that she has access to the sort of reproductive health care that Planned Parenthood provides.

Every attack on PP, either physical or political, is like kicking you in the balls every time you look at a woman and think anything other than “Gee! I’d sure like to father a(nother) child!!!”

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:35:34pm

Worst.Dressed.Democrat.Tranny.Ever

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:35:42pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

GOP Spokesman: “People need to protect themselves from anyone that takes our lying seriously and wants to act on it. We are sorry, we are in a political season and we are just practicing good politics. So, please watch yourselves around anything and anyone we target in our hit pieces. We can not control ourselves or those weak-minded individuals that can’t tell the difference betwen bullshit and reality. Thank you and remember vote Republican!”

That is a really good imitation of a GOP apologist. Hopefully this pre-emptive mockery will keep the real thing away for a while.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:37:41pm

From the article, written by Jon A. Shields, associate professor of government at Claremont McKenna College:

“…The violent radicalism that led to abortion clinic shootings represents a historically unique phase of the right-to-life movement, one that seems to have largely died more than a decade ago. In other words, this is not same kind of violence that colored much of the abortion debate during the 1980s and the 1990s.”

So, no big deal then.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:38:58pm
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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:39:04pm

re: #196 jaunte

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From the article, written by Jon A. Shields, associate professor of government at Claremont McKenna College:

So, no big deal then.

Lone Wolf vs Franchise Policy… Dead is Dead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:39:10pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

That is a really good imitation of a GOP apologist. Hopefully this pre-emptive mockery will keep the real thing away for a while.

See #196. It ain’t working

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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:40:14pm

re: #195 EPR-radar

That is a really good imitation of a GOP apologist. Hopefully this pre-emptive mockery will keep the real thing away for a while.

Thanks. Honestly, they are way too easy to mock. The GOP never surprises. They only continue to dig down deeper.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:42:58pm

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

See #196. It ain’t working

I just meant here at LGF.

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:47:40pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

The abusive husband defense. “I didn’t mean to hit her, but she kept making me angry!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:50:37pm

Whereas Ben Shapiro wants to revert to an earlier standard of living not because he doesn’t understand technology but because he doesn’t understand human beings.

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sagehen  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:51:13pm

re: #175 KGxvi

So, that’s my life advice for the day: hammer and duct tape. If you can’t solve the problem with those two items, it’s not solvable.

And WD40.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:53:54pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

What a life it must be, to get paid for pooting out such useless brainfarts. Best use ever of a Harvard law degree, lil Benji!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:54:40pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

Whereas Ben Shapiro wants to revert to an earlier standard of living not because he doesn’t understand technology but because he doesn’t understand human beings.

A standard RW talking point is that “environmental whackos” want us to go back to living in lean-tos and wiping our asses with leaves.

The point is that environmental progress is also a challenge to develop newer and more progressive energy-saving and energy-producing technologies and to abandon the outdated 19th and 20th century fossil fuels.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:56:56pm

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A standard RW talking point is that “environmental whackos” want us to go back to living in lean-tos and wiping our asses with leaves.

The point is that environmental progress is also a challenge to develop newer and more progressive energy-saving and energy-producing technologies and to abandon the outdated 19th and 20th century fossil fuels.

IF we turn away from proven technologies like whale oil lamps, what will all the whalers do? You’ll destroy the whole industry!!!!

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:57:03pm

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Amazing how they can move the goalposts with such alacrity, isn’t it?

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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:57:23pm

Interesting. The two pastors Kornacki (MTP Daily) is interviewing said that when they met with Trump, Trump didn’t really talk much with them, his people did. They said they asked him about his overall tone in his speeches and about how Trump handled the BLM protester at his one campaign speech. Trump claims he didn’t know the protester was Black initially and as far as tone, the Trump people did all the talk about that. They aren’t flat out calling him out (and I understand that…this is Trump) but they do not seem at all impressed with TRUMP®.

Just as expected. Donald Trump is who we thought he was!

(Oh…my first Chia Pet commercial! Uggh)

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 2:59:57pm

re: #205 Jebediah, RBG

What a life it must be, to get paid for pooting out such useless brainfarts. Best use ever of a Harvard law degree, lil Benji!

I agree. I SO want to be some kind of a pundit in my next life. Doesn’t matter if you’re right or wrong. Just as long as you get the clicks, it’s all good. And by prefacing things with In My Opinion and the ever popular It is said that you can resolve yourself of any of that tedious and inconvenient fact checking.

Ho-Ho-Ho, It’s a Pundits life for me!!!!

RBS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:02:10pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:03:10pm

re: #210 Reality Based Steve

I agree. I SO want to be some kind of a pundit in my next life. Doesn’t matter if you’re right or wrong. Just as long as you get the clicks, it’s all good. And by prefacing things with In My Opinion and the ever popular It is said that you can resolve yourself of any of that tedious and inconvenient fact checking.

Ho-Ho-Ho, It’s a Pundits life for me!!!!

RBS

Pundits really do have a charmed life. E.g., David Brooks, whose only apparent function in life is to write things down that plutocrats like to believe about themselves and the country they own.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:03:49pm

re: #196 jaunte

This idiot really thinks those people from the 70s and 80s just went away? The only thing keeping them at bay has been the increased security, training and awareness of the clinic personnel and the fortification of the buildings. The Army of God still exists, they’re just underground more now and use the internet to do their shit. The fuckers are still in GA, they never left.

I often wonder how many women and doctors are harassed and threatened that we don’t hear about. The “protestors” take down license plate numbers, they have medical personnel that pass on info to them in some places. They’ve outed and harassed clinic volunteers online, even calling their places of employment. Leave it to some guy who has never set foot in a clinic to run his mouth and tell the rest of us how good it really is.

Bullshit.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:04:00pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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More like his union rep showed up with the $150,000.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:04:52pm

re: #215 Targetpractice

More like his union rep showed up with the $150,000.

yep

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:06:25pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There are photos of cops in uniform outside - they raised the funds via the FOP.

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:07:00pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:08:25pm

Great. Sources say that the Colorado PP killer “said all kinds of things in his interview, so it is not clear PP “baby parts” played a part in it.” (Erica Hill MSNBC)

Interesting how they can detail the PP “baby parts” but not all the other kinds of things he said. They emphasize it themselves.

Our liars are not even that good anymore. Everyone is just going through the motions.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:08:59pm

re: #214 A Mom Anon

Shields and Daleiden have written an article together, assembling anecdotes (no data) about all the clinic workers who have “turned pro-life” because of their experiences at clinics. So I don’t think he’s a reliable reporter on the topic.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:09:37pm

re: #218 Kragar

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Ghaaa. What a shitbag.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:09:37pm

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A standard RW talking point is that “environmental whackos” want us to go back to living in lean-tos and wiping our asses with leaves.

The point is that environmental progress is also a challenge to develop newer and more progressive energy-saving and energy-producing technologies and to abandon the outdated 19th and 20th century fossil fuels.

And of course, these are the yahoos who bitch about not being able to find inefficient bulbs and think that electric cars and various sorts of hybrids are stupid because they might not work for their particular lifestyle, rather than observing how nice it is that we have such variety available now. It’s as if the existence of any alternative technology to the most wasteful is an affront to them. My wingnut cousin is a big fan of Big Coal, always posting things about Obama’s ‘War On Coal’, as if Natural Gas’s war on coal isn’t what’s killing the coal market.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:11:39pm

Our librul media actually published this bullshit:

Ted Cruz cites reports that Planned Parenthood shooter could be ‘transgendered leftist activist.’ What?

Overmanwarrior, another conservative blog, summarized the reports thusly: “This is just further proof that liberals make most of the problems in our society. They feed anger toward Planned Parenthood with immoral justifications, then they create a loose society full of perverts, peeping toms, and losers who are men who think they are women and women who want to be men.”

And many conservatives on Twitter argue that the media has been much too quick to jump to the most obvious motive for the shooting. Some even questioned whether Planned Parenthood was specifically targeted.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:11:44pm

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

And of course, these are the yahoos who bitch about not being able to find inefficient bulbs and think that electric cars and various sorts of hybrids are stupid because they might not work for their particular lifestyle, rather than observing how nice it is that we have such variety available now. It’s as if the existence of any alternative technology to the most wasteful is an affront to them. My wingnut cousin is a big fan of Big Coal, always posting things about Obama’s ‘War On Coal’, as if Natural Gas’s war on coal isn’t what’s killing the coal market.

Obama will declare a “War On Coal” but won’t declare a “War on Terror”. Typical Liberal

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:11:56pm

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

My wingnut cousin is a big fan of Big Coal, always posting things about Obama’s ‘War On Coal’, as if Natural Gas’s war on coal isn’t what’s killing the coal market.

If we just abolished safety and environmental regulations, Coal would be King again!!!

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:13:34pm

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If we just abolished safety and environmental regulations, Coal would be King again!!!

And we could have cool cars again…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:13:38pm

It bears to keep in mind that Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains, which includes Colorado Springs PP, was a target of the Daleiden/CMP “baby parts” videos.

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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:13:41pm

re: #224 Reality Based Steve

Obama will declare a “War On Coal” but won’t declare a “War on Terror”. Typical Liberal

Yeah. Obama won’t risk a line drawn in the West Virginian or Kentucky coal dust.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:14:00pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:15:24pm

re: #210 Reality Based Steve

Yeah, it has to be the easiest job ever, since being right or coherent doesn’t matter at all. On the other hand, to really make it work, you would also have to have the gift of zero self-awareness. Otherwise knowing how useless your work is might start to get to you. Maybe that’s why Baby Ben is always so bitter and hateful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:20:21pm

“Let me be very clear: I don’t believe Donald Trump is gonna be the nominee, I don’t believe he’s gonna be our president. And I actually think the men and women in this room have something powerful to say about it. One of the reasons I love the state of Iowa, because in Iowa, y’all take politics seriously,” Cruz said at a town hall meeting Monday in Iowa.

Cruz is one of the only opponents Donald Trump hasn’t attacked during his candidacy.

Hey Ted!
Incoming Trump tweets will be arriving soon…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:20:39pm

Sigh.

Another Trump is totally telling the truth comment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:23:25pm

re: #232 klys (maker of Silmarils)

LOL!
Another dump a stupid comment and leave hatchling.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:23:47pm

re: #232 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sigh.

Another Trump is totally telling the truth comment.

It’s obvious that Trump is lying about the celebration of 9/11 by some American Muslims.

Sufficient evidence is the fact that there presently are American Muslims.

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Lidane  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:23:53pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yo, Ted — it won’t be you either. Even your fellow GOP Senators don’t like you:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:24:31pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey Ted!
Incoming Trump tweets will be arriving soon…

I would love to see how Trump would trash Cruz. I think one or the other offers each other VP.

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ObserverArt  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:25:05pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey Ted!
Incoming Trump tweets will be arriving soon…

This will be sweet to witness. Asshole fight.

Better take the children out of the room. Ben Shapiro and Steve Crowder, that means you!

Upside, they get real nasty and really hurt each other’s campaigns.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:25:38pm

re: #235 Lidane

Yo, Ted — it won’t be you either. Even your fellow GOP Senators don’t like you:

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He really is one of the most unlikable people out there.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:25:57pm

re: #235 Lidane

Of the various turds in the GOP punch bowl, Cruz is the one that worries me the most. He’s extreme, even for the GOP, and has a more plausible path to victory than most of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:26:05pm

LOL!
Nope..

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Danack  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:27:50pm

re: #235 Lidane

Yo, Ted — it won’t be you either. Even your fellow GOP Senators don’t like you:

I’m not sure that being able to point at the GOP establishment as not liking a candidate is going to be a negative at this point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:28:00pm

Lordie, it’s GOP comedy night:

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:28:08pm

office heating system not compensating for the weather which has apparently wandered in from canada

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:28:22pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz wins Iowa and emerges as the anti-establishment guy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:29:04pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Order signed copy of CRIPPLED AMERICA & have opportunity to submit question for my live streaming book signing 12/3

And if you publish a bad review, I will accuse you of mocking Crippled Americans!!!

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makeitstop  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:29:16pm

I got an interesting message this morning.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:29:31pm

re: #232 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just had to reply.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:29:37pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lordie, it’s GOP comedy night:

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That was a Democrat who said that.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:30:47pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz wins Iowa and emerges as the anti-establishment guy.

remember how in 2012 a number of gop candidates rose and fell? i think this cycle a number of alternative to trump will rise and fall

might be that cruz is peaking too early - i don’t think he can prevail, cuz he has bad mouthfeel

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:31:25pm

re: #246 makeitstop

I got an interesting message this morning.

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damn that bureau of land management

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:32:16pm

re: #249 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

remember how in 2012 a number of gop candidates rose and fell? i think this cycle a number of alternative to trump will rise and fall

might be that cruz is peaking too early - i don’t think he can prevail, cuz he has bad mouthfeel

I don’t know. I think if anyone peaked too early, ti was Carson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:32:22pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

That was a Democrat who said that.

I know

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:32:24pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lordie, it’s GOP comedy night:

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Rubio’s “innate political skill” apparently is being a hunky guy, and nothing else. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:33:08pm

Ben hasn’t found his peepee yet.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:33:49pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

Rubio’s “innate political skill” apparently is being a hunky guy, and nothing else. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.

he’s a nice guy - should count against him in the gop primaries

whenever i see him, i think “and marco rubio as The Kid”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:34:16pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know

Sorry, your comment confused me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:35:08pm

re: #255 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

he’s a nice guy - should count against him in the gop primaries

whenever i see him, i think “and marco rubio as The Kid”

I am actually amazed that Cruz is just a year older than him. Rubio seems more youthful even though he’s actually more qualified than Cruz is. Not saying much since Rubio has a shitty attendance record.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:36:03pm

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

Ben hasn’t found his peepee yet.

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Ben, you’re self-projecting again. Really dude maybe if you actually listened to someone other than the Breitbart echo chamber, you’d understand that leftists aren’t like you.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:36:09pm

re: #255 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

he’s a nice guy - should count against him in the gop primaries

whenever i see him, i think “and marco rubio as The Kid”

Rubio’s entire schtick is that he looks so “young and fresh” when he says lines that were “young and fresh” when Goldwater was running for the White House.

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No Depression  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:36:31pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey Ted!
Incoming Trump tweets will be arriving soon…

My hand just involuntarily balled into a fist.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:37:06pm

re: #257 HappyWarrior

I am actually amazed that Cruz is just a year older than him. Rubio seems more youthful even though he’s actually more qualified than Cruz is. Not saying much since Rubio has a shitty attendance record.

Cruz is just proof that ugly goes to the bone.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:37:19pm

re: #259 Targetpractice

Rubio’s entire schtick is that he looks so “young and fresh” when he says lines that were “young and fresh” when Goldwater was running for the White House.

Exactly there’s nothing original about Marco Rubio. He has no original ideas and he can’t even bother to vote most of the time.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:38:01pm

re: #261 Targetpractice

Cruz is just proof that ugly goes to the bone.

Heh yep. I think Rubio’s just a youthful looking guy though. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has a difficult time growing a beard.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:40:18pm

There was actually a good article in the WaPo about how Rubio is mostly a hit with older voters. Lots of quotes by older voters saying young people “should” like this guy. I am not impressed. He likes to play both sides of an argument, doesn’t vote a lot, and is frankly just as extreme as Cruz, Carson, and Trump in many ways. There’s nothing moderate abut a man who opposes abortion in all cases and is quite hostile to LGBT rights too. If he were nominated, I think it would become clear immediately that he’s like so many other young GOPers, an old man in a young man’s body.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:46:03pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

There was actually a good article in the WaPo about how Rubio is mostly a hit with older voters. Lots of quotes by older voters saying young people “should” like this guy. I am not impressed. He likes to play both sides of an argument, doesn’t vote a lot, and is frankly just as extreme as Cruz, Carson, and Trump in many ways. There’s nothing moderate abut a man who opposes abortion in all cases and is quite hostile to LGBT rights too. If he were nominated, I think it would become clear immediately that he’s like so many other young GOPers, an old man in a young man’s body.

If Rubio wins the nomination, the entire campaign will turn into “See this young guy run against that old crone Hillary!,” with various attempts to try to sell him as being “in” with younger voters and appealing to minority voters by virtue of being a Cubano. And all of his positions will “evolve,” but only within the confines of the base’s demands. So he won’t suddenly develop a love of gay folks, but he will suddenly express “openness” to some “compromise” measure like civil unions or a law that “protects religious freedom” while saying he won’t outright call for a federal ban on gay marriage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:46:26pm

heh

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Danack  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:46:46pm

re: #249 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

remember how in 2012 a number of gop candidates rose and fell? i think this cycle a number of alternative to trump will rise and fall

I think the model is fundamentally different. In 2012 there was a serious candidate who could obviously do reasonably do well in the actual candidate who was in the lead from Feb 2011. The GOP radicals really didn’t want to vote for him though, so they were casting around for an alternative, which lead to all the other no hopers surging to the top, pushing Romney into 2nd place temporarily, before they each faded as it was clear they had no chance in the actual election.

This time is different as i) The only person who can be classified as the front-runner is Trump, and he has been the front-runner for longer than is realistically left in the nomination process. ii) There is no clear establishment candidate who could clearly do well in the actual election. Rubio, Cruz and ¿Jeb? Bush are all terrible candidates and the GOP establishment know it. Although they could probably get behind Rubio, he is such a lightweight, and has consistent rumours surrounding him, that it would be a massively risky bet.

I don’t like making predictions - but the most likely outcome is either Cruz or Trump being the nominee. Even if all the people who wanted a ‘GOP establishment person’ to win voted for Rubio, that would still probably only put him at 25% which is a lot less than the maybe 40% a candidate needs to start appearing inevitable.

And I still say Trump is going to get bored and start looking for a way to quit his campaign without appearing to be a ‘loser’. If Cruz could make him the right offer, then I would be zero percent surprised to see Trump stop his campaign and say that he realizes that Cruz is the right guy for president.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:49:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:49:28pm

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Well shit. Let’s ask Mother Trump if she loves her son. Seriously of course an adviser is going to say that.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:50:52pm

re: #267 Danack

at this point i think trump will be the nominee, and i give him 48% chance of winning the general - in other words, just less than 50/50

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:50:53pm

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

Ben hasn’t found his peepee yet.

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That boy has such a weird fixation on genitalia. It’s not healthy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:51:53pm

Trump doesn’t have advisers, he has Yes Men.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:52:26pm

re: #270 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

at this point i think trump will be the nominee, and i give him 48% chance of winning the general - in other words, just less than 50/50

Trump’s chances in a general election will be very difficult to predict. The normal models would most likely not apply.

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Skip Intro  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:53:19pm

re: #271 Pawn of the Oppressor

That boy has such a weird fixation on genitalia. It’s not healthy.

I wish I’d known that was his site before I clicked the link.

Never again.

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Kragar  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:53:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:53:50pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:54:08pm

re: #271 Pawn of the Oppressor

$5 says he has gay porn in his history tab.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:54:40pm

re: #275 Kragar

Cruz having a Foster Friess “aspirin between the knees” flashback.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:55:24pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

How can anyone be this clueless and reactionary?

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:56:10pm

re: #267 Danack

And I still say Trump is going to get bored and start looking for a way to quit his campaign without appearing to be a ‘loser’.

Third-party candidates pretty much don’t have a prayer. If Trump goes third party, he could probably manage to crow about virtually any vote total as evidence of his awesomeness, especially if he got any EC votes. “My third-party campaign made history! My results were yoooger than any other third-party candidate ever!” It would let him do his ego thing even while not coming anywhere near winning the WH.

As for Cruz, I continue to believe that in the general, America will not rally behind Major Frank Burns.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:57:59pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Politically active clueless people will be the end of civilization.

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Lancelot Link  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:58:01pm

re: #280 Jebediah, RBG

As long as he’s not appointed Chancellor….

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Timothy Watson  Nov 30, 2015 • 3:58:05pm

re: #280 Jebediah, RBG

Third-party candidates pretty much don’t have a prayer. If Trump goes third party, he could probably manage to crow about virtually any vote total as evidence of his awesomeness, especially if he got any EC votes. “My third-party campaign made history! My results were yoooger than any other third-party candidate ever!” It would let him do his ego thing even while not coming anywhere near winning the WH.

I doubt he would win enough to beat George Wallace.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:00:16pm

re: #283 Timothy Watson

I think you’re probably right. I didn’t mean to imply that he would be correct, just that he would crow about it like that.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:00:29pm

re: #279 No Country For Old Haters

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How can anyone be this clueless and reactionary?

I’m not one to advocate drug use, but if there’s anybody on earth in dire need of a plate full of “special” brownies and an evening with an experienced, well-paid, and skilled entertainer who specializes in mommy issues, it’s our boy Benjy Baratheon there.

He needs the kind of treatment where he wakes up at about 10 A.M. thinking “Duuuude… My life was a lie….”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:01:24pm

re: #272 Eclectic Cyborg

So did Adolph.

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unproven innocence  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:02:49pm

Planned Parenthood mostly dominates the plotline of a recent episode of Scandal (S5E9), aired about 12 days ago. Available on Hulu:

Hulu Video

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:02:58pm

re: #265 Targetpractice

Stocks of Ice Mountain go through the roof.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:04:09pm

re: #279 No Country For Old Haters

Y’all need to read this piece from a few years back about good old Genocide Ben and the rest of the Breitbart Insane Asylum members.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:06:57pm

re: #279 No Country For Old Haters

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How can anyone be this clueless and reactionary?

Funny Ben because your base wants to go back to the 19th century.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:08:33pm

re: #265 Targetpractice

If Rubio wins the nomination, the entire campaign will turn into “See this young guy run against that old crone Hillary!,” with various attempts to try to sell him as being “in” with younger voters and appealing to minority voters by virtue of being a Cubano. And all of his positions will “evolve,” but only within the confines of the base’s demands. So he won’t suddenly develop a love of gay folks, but he will suddenly express “openness” to some “compromise” measure like civil unions or a law that “protects religious freedom” while saying he won’t outright call for a federal ban on gay marriage.

Sounds right to me.

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:09:39pm

re: #280 Jebediah, RBG

I’ve often wondered what it would take for a third party/independent to do well in the general election. I’m thinking one of the two major party nominees would have to have a complete and utter break down (I’m talking Stockdale at the ‘92 VP debate), and the third party/independent would have to be acceptable to the party that saw the meltdown.

So, under those circumstances, let’s say Trump wins the nomination and during his acceptance speech at the convention quotes Hitler or uses the 14 words. Is there a republican who could run as an independent that’s not currently in the race? Would his role be anything more than spoiler? And nightmare scenario: what do Republican members of the House do nobody gets to 270 electoral votes? (Given that the vote would be by state, all those square states in the middle with 1 or 2 representatives become very important).

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Danack  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:12:44pm

re: #292 KGxvi

Is there a republican who could run as an independent that’s not currently in the race?

Romney, is pretty much the only person.

And I doubt he’d want to run just to lose again.

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:14:45pm

re: #293 Danack

The only one that came to mind for me was Huntsman. Otherwise I’m drawing a blank.

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Reality Based Steve  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:19:01pm

re: #294 KGxvi

The only one that came to mind for me was Huntsman. Otherwise I’m drawing a blank.

So did he.

RBS

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:24:15pm

re: #292 KGxvi

during his acceptance speech at the convention quotes Hitler

objecting to agreeing with hitler will be condemned as “politically correct”, which as we know is the Biggest Problem Facing America Today

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:24:28pm

re: #285 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’m not one to advocate drug use

I am. I’m not at all impressed with the human baseline, and I know drugs made me a better person.

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b.d.  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:25:22pm

re: #292 KGxvi

Is there a republican who could run as an independent that’s not currently in the race?

Cheney.

//

I really can’t think of another high profile republican in the good graces of the American people.

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KGxvi  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:26:29pm

re: #295 Reality Based Steve

Sure, but in my scenario, I could see him getting a lot of institutional support from the establishment as they bail or are forced out. I just don’t know how to game it out if the feces really does meet the ventilation with Trump.

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b.d.  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:28:51pm
Is there a republican who could run as an independent that’s not currently in the race?

Does Bloomberg count? Isn’t it about time for him to wind up his cyclical threats of running?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:30:14pm

re: #41 The Vicious Babushka

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Or maybe people should mind their own damn business and let women make important decisions about their reproductive rights and their bodies with their doctors.

But tweets like those are great because they show how misogyny plays a major role in forced-birtherism. It’s all about women being sluts and being punished by having to give birth against their will. Sickening.

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scottslemmons  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:30:38pm

re: #296 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

objecting to agreeing with hitler will be condemned as “politically correct”, which as we know is the Biggest Problem Facing America Today

Ya know, if at any point in the next few months, Obama or Clinton denounce neo-Nazism, there’s a pretty good chance the always-reflexively-anti-Democrats GOP will have swastikas all over their convention.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:31:41pm

Tenure policies violate standards, UW faculty leaders warn

New tenure policies under consideration for faculty members across the University of Wisconsin System fail to meet professional standards for academia and jeopardize the system’s reputation, according to faculty leaders at three campuses.

The Legislature last summer eliminated tenure from state law — something faculty had considered ironclad — and directed the governor-appointed Board of Regents to establish its own tenure policy.

A special task force appointed by the board is meeting Monday to consider a draft policy with a key directive: It must align with broad layoff provisions legislators inserted into state law as part of the biennial budget. The provisions give the UW System flexibility to dismiss tenured faculty in the midst of tight budgets and fast-changing workforce needs.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:32:48pm

Cruz clip on Chris Matthews’ show; he’s still talking about PP “buying and selling baby parts.”

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:36:23pm

re: #303 Amory Blaine

It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if the new UW tenure policy provided for making a personal oath of loyalty to Scott Walker a condition for keeping a UW faculty position.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:38:02pm

re: #304 jaunte

Cruz clip on Chris Matthews’ show; he’s still talking about PP “buying and selling baby parts.”

The nation needs to skip these Ugly Pageant “debates” and get right to the showdowns where the candidates are at the same table. If I were directing, the debate would start AFTER the candidates had already split a case of cheap beer and are too buzzed to deflect.

In my imaginary debate, Hillary becomes “Killary” and leans right across the table, sticks a finger on Cruz’s weird bent nose, and says “YOU. ARE. A FUCKING. LIAR!”

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:39:28pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:42:00pm

Steve Crowder joins Ben on the fainting couch.
Dear Steve, if she is so fugly why are you looking at her picture? Does she make you have tickly feels in your peepee just like when you look at pictures of Caitlyn Jenner?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:42:21pm

re: #119 jaunte

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Party of God.

“Christian White Religion” is a denomination now? Fox News hosts are so bright, aren’t they?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:42:30pm

Amy is not fat, she is normal sized.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:43:03pm

re: #283 Timothy Watson

I doubt he would win enough to beat George Wallace.

Or Ross “Giant sucking sound” Perot.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:44:00pm

re: #307 jaunte

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Walk into a bar. The bartender asks “Is this some kind of joke?”

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b_sharp  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:44:54pm

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

Amy is not fat, she is normal sized.

Pretty much.

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Jenner7  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:45:42pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:45:47pm

re: #309 Patricia Kayden

“Christian White Religion” is a denomination now? Fox News hosts are so bright, aren’t they?

She’s actually right. I’d call it a Freudian slip. Christian White Republican is its own cult.

I may start referring to the GOP as American Hezbollah. It fits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:46:22pm

good grief

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:46:29pm

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

Amy is not fat, she is normal sized.

She is “fat” to people who have no clue that most pictures of models they see are photoshopped to get rid of all those ugly blemishes and to make them look thinner than they already are.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:47:02pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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Is there a wingnut meme he won’t repeat?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:47:21pm

Matzah!

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:47:30pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

Uh-oh, the Cruzbot2016 is stuck on auto-pander.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:47:34pm

re: #318 Targetpractice

Is there a wingnut meme he won’t repeat?

The fans just keep eating it all up.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:47:42pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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He meant to say Blacks but Democrats will do just fine for his purposes.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:48:14pm
He told Hewitt the reason Democrats want convicted felons to be able to vote is because they know most of them will vote for Democrats.

Has he been talking to my dad..??

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:50:38pm

re: #319 The Vicious Babushka

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Matzah!

Wing plates served at Atheist Lesbian Studies study groups.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:51:30pm

re: #309 Patricia Kayden

Christian white Republican

you must confirm your belief in the Immaculate Pigmentation

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thedopefishlives  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:52:30pm

re: #325 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

you must confirm your belief in the Immaculate Pigmentation

All hail White American Jesus.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:53:21pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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What a pathetic hack this guy is.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:53:42pm

Around Town: Scott Walker tumble makes for memorable tree lighting

Guests were given candles as they came in, and before the tree was lit, Walker encouraged them to light their candles without catching anyone on fire.

Finally, he led the crowd in counting down from 10 to the tree lighting. After the tree lit up, he suddenly fell. The crowd hushed.

He’s been “nipping at the eggnog a little bit, feeling festive,” Tourism Secretary Stephanie Klett joked as she took the microphone to help smooth over the gaffe.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:54:32pm

re: #328 Amory Blaine

Okay, holy shit. When your aide has to come out and say you’ve been drinking a bit to explain your shenanigans, it’s BAD.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:54:42pm

re: #323 Pawn of the Oppressor

Has he been talking to my dad..??

Yeah it can’t be that we believe in second chances for people Teddy. You know we actually believe in that forgiveness part your religion preaches but assholes like you never practice unless the person is a fellow conservative Christian then we should forgive them. Waht a pathetic hack Cruz really is. He sounds more and more like a comment section than President every day.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:54:55pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

Radio host Hugh Hewitt told Cruz that, given how some in the media have attempted to connect pro-life rhetoric to the shooting, he has never encountered a pro-life individual who would condone violence.

And then Hugh Hewitt jumped all over his fallacious reasoning…..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:55:21pm

re: #328 Amory Blaine

Around Town: Scott Walker tumble makes for memorable tree lighting

Drinking away his sorrows knowing he wasn’t pretty enough for the GOP?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:56:40pm

re: #331 jaunte

And then Hugh Hewitt jumped all over his fallacious reasoning…..

Never? Yeah so Operation Rescue doesn’t exist and no one has threatened abortion providers ever. Man tehse fuckers make me ill. They spew hate and violent rethroic and then act like it’s so shocking that someone would actually do something.

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b.d.  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:56:57pm

re: #329 thedopefishlives

Okay, holy shit. When your aide has to come out and say you’ve been drinking a bit to explain your shenanigans, it’s BAD.

“It wasn’t heroin, it was angel dust, PCP” - Trading Places

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:58:51pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

So Cruz is relying on the thin reed that he has never personally met anyone who would admit to condoning violence.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 4:59:33pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Never? Yeah so Operation Rescue doesn’t exist and no one has threatened abortion providers ever. Man tehse fuckers make me ill. They spew hate and violent rethroic and then act like it’s so shocking that someone would actually do something.

The cartoon in Kragar’s #1 in this thread really does say it all.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:00:58pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

The cartoon in Kragar’s #1 in this thread really does say it all.

IT really does. Anti-abortionist ashsoles have been likening supporters of legalized choice to the Nazis. Yeah no hateflu or violent rhetoric there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:01:22pm

Image: article-2013565-0CF7FAF700000578-798_634x856.jpg
A Republican criminal. And hey Ted he even shares your name.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:02:09pm

re: #335 jaunte

So Cruz is relying on the thin reed that he has never personally met anyone who would admit to condoning violence.

I guess he doesn’t know Troy Newman that well.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:02:10pm

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:03:53pm

re: #331 jaunte

he has never encountered a pro-life individual who would condone violence

all that has to happen is for the most recent pp shooter to say that he did it for pro life reasons and this whole idea goes out the window

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:03:59pm

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Or he’s just lying again.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:04:18pm

re: #340 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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He really shouldn’t be commenting on anyone’s looks but then again his Patron Saint Limbaugh was attacking Chelsea Clinton’s looks when Chelsea was barely 13 years old.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:04:38pm

re: #342 jaunte

Or he’s just lying again.

Ted Cruz? Lie why I’d never!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:04:41pm
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thedopefishlives  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:05:08pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

The pack of Camels just slays me.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:06:09pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

He really shouldn’t be commenting on anyone’s looks but then again his Patron Saint Limbaugh was attacking Chelsea Clinton’s looks when Chelsea was barely 13 years old.

and ben wasn’t even 10

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:06:46pm

I see the media is still with the ‘motives unclear’ route.
e_e

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:08:12pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Never? Yeah so Operation Rescue doesn’t exist and no one has threatened abortion providers ever. Man tehse fuckers make me ill. They spew hate and violent rethroic and then act like it’s so shocking that someone would actually do something.

They want to protect kids? I’m sure they know where drug dealers are in their towns, where the crack/herion houses are. Why don’t these manly men and holy women go confront them? Picket out front of their establishments.

P.S. I know why the little cowards won’t.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:08:31pm

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

Steve Crowder joins Ben on the fainting couch.
Dear Steve, if she is so fugly why are you looking at her picture? Does she make you have tickly feels in your peepee just like when you look at pictures of Caitlyn Jenner?

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I looked up this Crowder dude… He’s 28! He’s not even a middle-aged crank, he’s a goddamned Millennial Frat Boy… That explains soooooo much.

Good luck finding a date in ten years, motherfucker.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:08:40pm

re: #340 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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It’s not just the “fat-shaming” for pricks like Ben and Steve. They are enraged that women of any size dare to do things without their stamp of approval.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:09:43pm
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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:09:55pm

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

Hadn’t seen that. What a wonderful beautiful &, yes, sexy image of her.

To he’ll with him.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:10:29pm

re: #350 Pawn of the Oppressor

I looked up this Crowder dude… He’s 28! He’s not even a middle-aged crank, he’s a goddamned Millennial Frat Boy… That explains soooooo much.

Good luck finding a date in ten years, motherfucker.

The funny thing is that I keep thinking of him as some petulant child, I can’t believe he’s older than me (I am 27).

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Great White Snark  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:11:23pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

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if that gets put up in a public park will the spaghetti monster get equal time?

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:11:24pm

re: #308 The Vicious Babushka

The weirdest part of Ben’s comment on Amy Schumer’s photo is that he thinks it’s a picture of “genitals.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:11:24pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

Just like hatchling Maggiemay11.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:11:40pm

Naked pictures of Amy Schumer do nothing for me, but I am not into girls (NTTAWWT)

I would look at naked pictures of Justin Trudeau all day long, except that I have to work :)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:12:28pm

re: #354 Timothy Watson

The funny thing is that I keep thinking of him as some petulant child, I can’t believe he’s older than me (I am 27).

He’s a couple weeks older than I am. I didn’t know until fairly recently that I was older than you. It’s funny. I think the Virginia Lizards: Me, you, Varek, and TP are all around the same age.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:12:33pm

re: #356 jaunte

The weirdest part of Ben’s comment on Amy Schumer’s photo is that he thinks it’s a picture of “genitals.”

She is wearing panties so it’s not even a “naked” picture.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:13:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:13:58pm

re: #350 Pawn of the Oppressor

I looked up this Crowder dude… He’s 28! He’s not even a middle-aged crank, he’s a goddamned Millennial Frat Boy… That explains soooooo much.

Good luck finding a date in ten years, motherfucker.

What I love is he got his start as a child voice actor on Public Television. He really isn’t as funny or witty as he thinks he is. He’s just another right wing jackass who thinks he’s funny but he’s as VB puts it a Limbaugh plagiarist.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:13:59pm

re: #354 Timothy Watson

The funny thing is that I keep thinking of him as some petulant child, I can’t believe he’s older than me (I am 27).

He was a virgin until age 25, if his Wikipedia page is accurate. So probably no girlfriends at all before then, and he’s only been cohabiting with a flesh and blood woman for a couple of years at most.

All the Jiu-jitsu in the world isn’t going to learn you about the ladies. Poor guy is stunted.

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b_sharp  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:14:09pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

He’s a couple weeks older than I am. I didn’t know until fairly recently that I was older than you. It’s funny. I think the Virginia Lizards: Me, you, Varek, and TP are all around the same age.

Somewhere between getting up there and starting the downhill slide?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:14:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:14:46pm

re: #364 b_sharp

Somewhere between getting up there and starting the downhill slide?

I actually feel better at 28 than I did at 18 but I’m in better shape in body and mind now than I was then.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:14:52pm

re: #350 Pawn of the Oppressor

Oh, he’s the epitome of a young republican fratboy. He’s the asshole that spouts shit at people and then steps back and lets his brothers finish the job.

Dude is a world class prick. Has been for a while.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:15:19pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

He’s a couple weeks older than I am. I didn’t know until fairly recently that I was older than you. It’s funny. I think the Virginia Lizards: Me, you, Varek, and TP are all around the same age.

Obama is one month older than me. He was born Aug. 4th ‘61 (my dads BDay is the 5th, a few years before) and I was Sept. 7th ‘61.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:16:17pm

Young Hillary doesn’t do it for me but I wouldn’t call her fat or ugly. Everyone finds a different sort of thing attraction. I think Mrs. Obama is very beautiful like Jackie Kennedy was.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:16:20pm

re: #364 b_sharp

Somewhere between getting up there and starting the downhill slide?

It’s been a slide since we were born.
/Positive reinforcement.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:16:59pm

re: #368 Eventual Carrion

Obama is one month older than me. He was born Aug. 4th ‘61 (my dads BDay is the 5th, a few years before) and I was Sept. 7th ‘61.

Fortunately for me I don’t think any Congresspeople are younger than me yet. That’ll change soon though.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:17:26pm

re: #367 The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

Oh, he’s the epitome of a young republican fratboy. He’s the asshole that spouts shit at people and then steps back and lets his brothers finish the job.

Dude is a world class prick. Has been for a while.

Yet he’s only just learned what women look like naked. He’s in for a real surprise if he stays with the same woman - Edit: And has kids with her. (God help us all)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:17:34pm

re: #361 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, not a single right wing pundit or politician even slowed down with this “selling baby parts” bullshit after Colorado

the idea that mentally unstable people might be unusually susceptible to overheated rhetoric doesn’t seem to have occurred to them

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:19:11pm

Honestly the guys who do the most shaming of women’s looks are the ones who shouldn’t be judging. There was something very wrong about 300+ pound plus Rush Limbaugh making a crack at Chelsea’s appearance or John McCain saying her parents were Janet Reno and Hillary. Chelsea IMO has grown up to be an attractive young woman. Smart too like her folks.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:19:57pm

John Legend and Christine Tiegen donated to Planned Parenthood because of the shooting. It’s hilarious that these people will go after anyone:

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thedopefishlives  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:20:13pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Honestly the guys who do the most shaming of women’s looks are the ones who shouldn’t be judging. There was something very wrong about 300+ pound plus Rush Limbaugh making a crack at Chelsea’s appearance or John McCain saying her parents were Janet Reno and Hillary. Chelsea IMO has grown up to be an attractive young woman. Smart too like her folks.

I think this is what bugs me the most. Guys have so little self-awareness of their looks, and they judge women all day long by their looks. It’s like, shut up and look in the mirror, you damned hypocrites.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:20:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:20:48pm

re: #289 Eric The Fruit Bat

Y’all need to read this piece from a few years back about good old Genocide Ben and the rest of the Breitbart Insane Asylum members.

Choice tidbits from that:

Less than a week after Breitbart’s heart popped like a water balloon, the heirs to his legacy were revealed on Fox News’ Sean Hannity Show. Seated together in a remote studio were Breitbart’s new editor-in-chief Joel B. Pollak, and his mini-me, a weasel-faced anti-masturbation crusader named Ben Shapiro.

another:

Pollak and Shapiro both harbor deluded fantasies of becoming the telegenic faces and voices of the conservative movement. The only thing holding them back: their faces and voices.

last one, and I’ll stop:

Ben Shapiro’s most useful talent is that he makes Joel Pollak look sane, cool and relaxed. Shapiro’s job is to fidget nervously while holding his tongue, like his bladder’s about to explode through his nose — providing needed contrast to Pollak.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:21:17pm

re: #373 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

the idea that mentally unstable people might be unusually susceptible to overheated rhetoric doesn’t seem to have occurred to them

Even worse - I think it has occurred to them, yet they continue.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:22:33pm

re: #372 Pawn of the Oppressor

Nah, he knows. He’s just too juvenile to give a shit. He’s ‘scoring points’ and grifting rubes, all the while toeing the GOP line.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:23:18pm

re: #375 Belafon

John Legend and Christine Tiegen donated to Planned Parenthood because of the shooting. It’s hilarious that these people will go after anyone:

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Yeah we will remember Donald Trump in 100 years, the way we remember Father Couhglin now. And another thing Christie and John are self made. Donald’s a little brat who got help from Daddy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:24:17pm

Someone covered up a bunch of Donald Trump posters with a bunch of Bernie Sanders posters.

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Great White Snark  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:24:27pm

Off the White House Christmas card list that’s for sure…
Retired Lt. General Michael Flynn, former U.S. special forces commander in Iraq and Afghanistan

huffingtonpost.com
Following the violent attacks in Paris earlier this month, Flynn said that the Obama administration’s foreign policy is “amateurish” and has “its own place of responsibility in the mayhem that we are seeing right now.”

Retired generals have no business messing about in policy. Soldier go home.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:24:41pm

re: #376 thedopefishlives

I think this is what bugs me the most. Guys have so little self-awareness of their looks, and they judge women all day long by their looks. It’s like, shut up and look in the mirror, you damned hypocrites.

I mean I admit I haven’t been perfect in that regard myself but I did get better after I left my teens. Guys like Rush, Steve, and the others though are permanently teens in how they view women.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:28:01pm

re: #376 thedopefishlives

I think this is what bugs me the most. Guys have so little self-awareness of their looks, and they judge women all day long by their looks. It’s like, shut up and look in the mirror, you damned hypocrites.

Because that’s all women are to them: eye candy. A woman who doesn’t measure up to their standard of hotness is worthless garbage, to be thrown out (like Donald Trump’s first 2 wives)

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:29:09pm

HAVE MOAR STUPIDS==>

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thedopefishlives  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:29:16pm

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

Because that’s all women are to them: eye candy. A woman who doesn’t measure up to their standard of hotness is worthless garbage, to be thrown out (like Donald Trump’s first 2 wives)

Like HappyWarrior said right above you: Still in their teens in regard to how they view women. I get that men have physical and visual attractions, but that isn’t the only measure of a woman.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:30:19pm

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

Because that’s all women are to them: eye candy. A woman who doesn’t measure up to their standard of hotness is worthless garbage, to be thrown out (like Donald Trump’s first 2 wives)

I remember a stupid meme(you’ve probably seen it so need to get) but it’s really stupid and telling how tehy view women. They have some unflattering photos of Democratic/liberal women and label it as “their women” and then some flattering ones of Republican/conservative women and label it “our women.” Just shows you how they value women. You know to be honest with you, some of the wingnut women out there are easy on the eyes but then they open their mouth and show themselves to be ugly people.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:30:37pm

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

Because that’s all women are to them: eye candy. A woman who doesn’t measure up to their standard of hotness is worthless garbage, to be thrown out (like Donald Trump’s first 2 wives)

Small correction. RWNJs view women as eye candy + baby dispensers.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:30:47pm

re: #386 The Vicious Babushka

HAVE MOAR STUPIDS==>

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Political opportunism? You mean like your entire career Rand riding your Daddy’s name to the Senate and now a failed attempt to be President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:31:58pm

re: #388 HappyWarrior

I remember a stupid meme(you’ve probably seen it so need to get) but it’s really stupid and telling how tehy view women. They have some unflattering photos of Democratic/liberal women and label it as “their women” and then some flattering ones of Republican/conservative women and label it “our women.” Just shows you how they value women. You know to be honest with you, some of the wingnut women out there are easy on the eyes but then they open their mouth and show themselves to be ugly people.

That meme is about 10 years old and a lot of the “Hots” have turned into fugly, hateful old bags.

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Great White Snark  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:32:29pm

That moment when someone you really don’t like or respect at all does something wonderful.. WOW.

Michael Moore Defies Governor’s Ban On Syrian Refugees And Opens Up His Apartment
The filmmaker set up a website for others to take in refugees, too.
huffingtonpost.com

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:32:37pm

re: #386 The Vicious Babushka

HAVE MOAR STUPIDS==>

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So a series of failed crops didn’t lead Syrian farmers to crowd into Damascus asking for relief just as the Arab Spring was happening?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:33:05pm

re: #391 The Vicious Babushka

That meme is about 10 years old and a lot of the “Hots” have turned into fugly, hateful old bags.

Yeah it’s one I remember seeing in the Bush years. Honestly some of the “hots” like Ann Coulter I never found that attractive. But of course my problem with Ann is that she’s a fascist witch not that I don’t find her attractive.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:34:27pm

re: #392 Great White Snark

That moment when someone you really don’t like or respect at all does something wonderful.. WOW.

Michael Moore Defies Governor’s Ban On Syrian Refugees And Opens Up His Apartment
The filmmaker set up a website for others to take in refugees, too.
huffingtonpost.com

I have to give Moore props on this. I think Moore often has his heart in the right place but his head and mouth aren’t. That is to say I think Moore does care about people but I think he’s sometimes a little too obnoxious and not practical minded enough but you have to give the man his due here. A Massachusetts Democratic Congressman did the same thing by the way. I forget the man’s name.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:34:27pm

Beauty is skin deep but ugly is to the bone.

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:34:36pm

re: #388 HappyWarrior

I remember a stupid meme(you’ve probably seen it so need to get) but it’s really stupid and telling how tehy view women. They have some unflattering photos of Democratic/liberal women and label it as “their women” and then some flattering ones of Republican/conservative women and label it “our women.” Just shows you how they value women. You know to be honest with you, some of the wingnut women out there are easy on the eyes but then they open their mouth and show themselves to be ugly people.

As mentioned upthread, it is incredibly juvenile to bring looks into a political discussion. That goes for everyone, since I fail to see how Rush Limbaugh’s crap would be any better if Rush Limbaugh looked like a young Brad Pitt.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:34:54pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:35:50pm

This is just rich.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:35:51pm

re: #397 EPR-radar

As mentioned upthread, it is incredibly juvenile to bring looks into a political discussion. That goes for everyone, since I fail to see how Rush Limbaugh’s crap would be any better if Rush Limbaugh looked like a young Brad Pitt.

Oh absolutely.Honestly judging someone simply on their looks politics or not is stupid.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:36:15pm
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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:36:30pm

re: #391 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, that was floating around back when W was running the show. I knew a lot of people who claimed to be independents forwarding me that email. Ironically enough none of those ‘men’ could have ever even talked to any of the women involved. But I guess they found it funny.

Still shaking my head all these years later.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:37:01pm

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

Because that’s all women are to them: eye candy. A woman who doesn’t measure up to their standard of hotness is worthless garbage, to be thrown out (like Donald Trump’s first 2 wives)

And worse, if - god forbid - the woman has OPINIONS! and has the temerity to not be ashamed of not being a supermodel, and doesn’t hide her body in a shapeless sack, she must be PILLORIED!! Crucified in the public square! Shamed about her average body! Called a slut for exposing it!!!
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You know, I’ll agree that some of the GOP’s women are attractive, but seriously, their souls are so hideous…yeesh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:37:29pm

re: #399 Stanley Sea Toujours

This is just rich.

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That is some weapons-grade side-eye the lady is giving Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:37:53pm

re: #402 The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

Yeah, that was floating around back when W was running the show. I knew a lot of people who claimed to be independents forwarding me that email. Ironically enough none of those ‘men’ could have ever even talked to any of the women involved. But I guess they found it funny.

Still shaking my head all these years later.

I remember a Republican hotties website. Really when you use women to advance your political argument like it’s the swimsuit issue, it’s not working and for it’s worth there are some very attractive Democratic and liberal women out there too who also more importantly happen to be some great people too.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:38:48pm

re: #404 The Vicious Babushka

That is some weapons-grade side-eye the lady is giving Trump.

She was on the Apprentice. Apparently once you’re a b-level person on that show you are beholden to Trump for the rest of your sorry life of grifting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:38:53pm

I swear though it seems to me that Fox’s model is to have attractive fairly young women who sound like Rush Limbaugh. I guess the older male demographic finds attractive young women who sound like Rush sexy.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:39:34pm

re: #406 Stanley Sea Toujours

She was on the Apprentice. Apparently once you’re a b-level person on that show you are beholden to Trump for the rest of your sorry life of grifting.

It would be interesting to see the contract.

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dharmamark  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:39:49pm

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Damn, you’re making me feel old. My youngest is about your age…

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:40:00pm

“One day I’m going to call and ask for a favor…”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:41:41pm

I remember in the 2000 election, a very homophobic friend insisting to me that women would favor Bush over Gore because Bush was more “attractive.” I wouldn’t call GWB ugly but I do think Gore probably was the more handsome of the two men running. I think Truman had a nice quote though. He was saying that Franklin Pierce was probably our best looking president but as President, he was bad as Coolidge and Buchanan. Meanwhile Lincoln, a man who Southern papers and even his own General McClellan likened to an ape was probably our best. The last part is my attribution, Truman never talked about Lincoln’s looks in the quote just Pierce so it’s clear.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:41:44pm

re: #407 HappyWarrior

I swear though it seems to me that Fox’s model is to have attractive fairly young women who sound like Rush Limbaugh. I guess the older male demographic finds attractive young women who sound like Rush sexy.

It’s the old Conservative guy’s dream - a hot young blonde who thinks like just like him. Kind of like the Millenial guy”s dream of the hot chick who likes videogames and MCA and DC movies.

Wait, that sounds like the Older Boy’s GF. He appears to be Living The Dream!
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Belafon  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:42:02pm

re: #408 jaunte

It would be interesting to see the contract.

“And here it says you’ll become a minister if I run for president.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:42:05pm

re: #409 dharmamark

Damn, you’re making me feel old. My youngest is about your age…

Ha, sorry, sorry.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:42:42pm

re: #412 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s the old Conservative guy’s dream - a hot young blonde who thinks like just like him. Kind of like the Millenial guy”s dream of the hot chick who likes videogames and MCA and DC movies.

Wait, that sounds like the Older Boy’s GF. He appears to be Living The Dream!
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Hahaha yeah it’s the conservative version of the manic pixie dream girl.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:42:49pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

The whole concept seemed so freakin’ stupid to me. I was embarrassed by it. I know if anyone I ever dated started spewing some of the crazy shit I see from some of the fox ‘babes’ I’d laugh, shake my head and walk away.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:44:34pm

re: #412 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s the old Conservative guy’s dream - a hot young blonde who thinks like just like him. Kind of like the Millenial guy”s dream of the hot chick who likes videogames and MCA and DC movies.

Wait, that sounds like the Older Boy’s GF. He appears to be Living The Dream!
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But when a girl actually does love gaming the gamergaters just rip her head off and shit down her neck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:45:19pm

re: #416 The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

The whole concept seemed so freakin’ stupid to me. I was embarrassed by it. I know if anyone I ever dated started spewing some of the crazy shit I see from some of the fox ‘babes’ I’d laugh, shake my head and walk away.

Yeah you know I can disagree with someone but I don’t care if you are attractive if you say things like some of the women on that list did have, I’d have no desire to date you at all. I mean physical attraction does mean something but so do other things.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:45:23pm

re: #399 Stanley Sea Toujours

Man that black woman on the left be all like: “mmm-hmmm”.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:46:11pm

Bride took a 2 second look at the picture and said “Yeah, that’s him. No question”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:46:29pm

re: #416 The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

The whole concept seemed so freakin’ stupid to me. I was embarrassed by it. I know if anyone I ever dated started spewing some of the crazy shit I see from some of the fox ‘babes’ I’d laugh, shake my head and walk away.

If I were young and single, and out with some beautiful woman who spewed crazy Conservative bullshit, the pedantic, empirical Liberal in me would be at war with the horny guy who lives in my head, who’d say anything to get laid.

But at SOME POINT, I’d say, “Now hold on a minute. What you just said is total bullshit.”

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:46:48pm

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

Man that black woman on the left be all like: “mmm-hmmm”.

That’s the one who got famous on his reality show. What’s her name? Barbarossa?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:47:30pm

re: #417 The Vicious Babushka

But when a girl actually does love gaming the gamergaters just rip her head off and shit down her neck.

Because for many of them, their dream girl thinks the rampant sexism in games is okay.

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b.d.  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:47:51pm

re: #420 Dave In Austin

Bride took a 2 second look at the picture and said “Yeah, that’s him. No question”.

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I guess that Dear was only a liberal democrat when he dressed as a woman?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:48:13pm

re: #411 HappyWarrior

I remember in the 2000 election, a very homophobic friend insisting to me that women would favor Bush over Gore because Bush was more “attractive.” I wouldn’t call GWB ugly but I do think Gore probably was the more handsome of the two men running. I think Truman had a nice quote though. He was saying that Franklin Pierce was probably our best looking president but as President, he was bad as Coolidge and Buchanan. Meanwhile Lincoln, a man who Southern papers and even his own General McClellan likened to an ape was probably our best.

In terms of things I have considered when voting for president, looks has never appeared on the list.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:48:21pm

I don’t know if anyone commented on the hospital lockdown earlier:

Colorado Springs police are looking for a “suspicious person” Monday afternoon at Memorial Hospital after he allegedly made threats to shoot one of the wounded victims from Friday’s Planned Parenthood shooting, according to police.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:48:33pm

re: #420 Dave In Austin

“…It was taken on October 11 during an event held as part of ‘40 Days for Life,’ a nationwide protest campaign launched against the family planning organization in the wake of the ‘baby parts for cash’ hoax.”

It looks like him, but if it is, his beard went all-white pretty quickly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:48:55pm

re: #354 Timothy Watson

The funny thing is that I keep thinking of him as some petulant child, I can’t believe he’s older than me (I am 27).

There seems to be a small yet thriving market for predominantly male millenial dickweeds on the GOP side: Crowder, James O’Keefe, Ben Shapiro, David Daleiden, even our favourite floor shitting punching bag CCJ.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:49:27pm

re: #423 Blind Frog Belly White

Because for many of them, their dream girl thinks the rampant sexism in games is okay.

I have a feeling Mrs. Fish is going to encounter this soon enough, as she has been on a bit of a feminist rant on her gaming blog. Luckily, Mrs. Fish is perfectly capable of defending herself against any errant Gamergaters who might come after her.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:49:29pm

re: #422 Barefoot Grin

That’s the one who got famous on his reality show. What’s her name? Barbarossa?

Wasn’t he the old pirate guy from Pirates of the Caribbean?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:49:49pm

re: #425 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In terms of things I have considered when voting for president, looks has never appeared on the list.

Yeah me neither. Of course, we’ve never ran a member of the group that I am attracted to for president either but yeah the guy was saying that women would vote for W over Gore because of that and I just even then thought that was some shallow sexist bullshit.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:50:18pm

re: #420 Dave In Austin

Bride took a 2 second look at the picture and said “Yeah, that’s him. No question”.

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I don’t think so. Too fat, different nose, different ears. Dear would have had to bleach his beard too. It’s not like there’s a shortage of 50-year-old white assholes in that political category either.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:50:55pm

re: #422 Barefoot Grin

That’s the one who got famous on his reality show. What’s her name? Barbarossa?

Lol Omarossa I think. Barbarossa was the Holy Roman Emperor in the Crusades that also gave the German invasion of the USSR its name in 1941. Barbarossa is literally red beard.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:51:13pm

re: #408 jaunte

It would be interesting to see the contract.

You must ALWAYS refer to Trump as MR Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:51:33pm

re: #430 Eclectic Cyborg

Wasn’t he the old pirate guy from Pirates of the Caribbean?

That was Barbossa

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:51:51pm

re: #420 Dave In Austin

Bride took a 2 second look at the picture and said “Yeah, that’s him. No question”.

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I don’t think it’s him but I’ve only seen the one photo of Dear.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:52:26pm

re: #433 HappyWarrior

Lol Omarossa I think. Barbarossa was the Holy Roman Emperor in the Crusades that also gave the German invasion of the USSR its name in 1941.

I thought he was a pirate in one of those Disney movies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:52:41pm

re: #425 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In terms of things I have considered when voting for president, looks has never appeared on the list.

I would note that over time, ones personality often gets written on your face. Look at Mitt Romney - he LOOKS like the smug prick he IS. John McCain LOOKS like the angry crank he is. Ann Coulter looks like the soulless shill she is, and Michelle Malkin looks like the angry shrew she is.

So, no, I don’t vote based solely on looks, but looks can be a window to the soul.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:53:15pm

re: #437 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I thought he was a pirate in one of those Disney movies.

Mostly this establishes that I can’t spell.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:53:38pm

re: #430 Eclectic Cyborg

Wasn’t he the old pirate guy from Pirates of the Caribbean?

re: #433 HappyWarrior

Lol Omarossa I think. Barbarossa was the Holy Roman Emperor in the Crusades that also gave the German invasion of the USSR its name in 1941. Barbarossa is literally red beard.

Oops. She was there to support and speak for Trump, from what I understand. You know how bashful The Donald can be.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:54:11pm

re: #437 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I thought he was a pirate in one of those Disney movies.

I think that’s probably how the character got its name.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:54:31pm

re: #439 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Mostly this establishes that I can’t spell.

You’re doing better than Homer J. Simpson.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:55:07pm

re: #438 Blind Frog Belly White

I would note that over time, ones personality often gets written on your face. Look at Mitt Romney - he LOOKS like the smug prick he IS. John McCain LOOKS like the angry crank he is. Ann Coulter looks like the soulless shill she is, and Michelle Malkin looks like the angry shrew she is.

So, no, I don’t vote based solely on looks, but looks can be a window to the soul.

Romney always reminded me of your archetypal WASP bully in a movie. Marmaland in Animal House especially.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:55:45pm

For any of you who block proactively like I do: I stumbled into a rat’s nest of white supremacists about an hour ago and below are the ones I blocked. There’s a good deal of crossover between them & the really rabid Islamophobes, but I didn’t include the latter in the list.

Generally speaking they’re quite fond of Trump, Ann Coulter, and anyone with a conspiracy theory that fits their world view (I also saw a couple of mentions of Justin Raimondo). Oh and this guy, who I’d never heard of until today (thankfully): Wayne Allyn Root. He sounds suitably unhinged. Note that his Wiki page lists his religion as Jewish, Born Again Christian. I have no idea if he’s supposed to be an actual convert or a Messianic Jew (an appellation that has always struck me as a creepily disingenuous).

Speaking of those who claim both religions, I’m seeing a good bit of crossover—maybe moronic convergence is a better term— between Messianic Jews like this guy Michael L. Brown who I ran across the other day when looking into Christian Reconstructionism/Dominionism, and the white supremacists/nationalists.

Be warned, if you look at any of their timeslines you’re going to see a lot of nasty racist & antisemitic shit along with the usual Hitler love and whining about supposed white persecution and genocide.

@Lurabyss
@kccustoms2001
@LGMS56
@lee231611
@wittmann1488
@RightWingDiva
@prowhitesunite
@Ricky_Vaughn99
@_OffOurStreets_
@HailEuropa
@TradYouth
@RealistReport
@camefromempires
@wppsociety
@WhitestRabbit_
@mkapp_
@NF_14WORDS
@ChateauEmissary
@LibrarianofHate
@Brannon1066
@WhittierPal

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:57:26pm

re: #443 HappyWarrior

Romney always reminded me of your archetypal WASP bully in a movie. Marmaland in Animal House especially.

Ken, Lonny, l’d like you to meet Mohammet,Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton. Grab a seat and make yourselves at home.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 5:59:05pm

re: #445 Blind Frog Belly White

Ken, Lonny, l’d like you to meet Mohammet,Jugdish, Sidney and Clayton. Grab a seat and make yourselves at home.

I know it’s wrong but I did laugh at his and Niedermeier’s fates. Granted I’d never laugh at that IRL. What always amused me about Mitt was reading about how he PROTESTED in favor of the Vietnam War and then did his mission in France. I wonder what the Mormons who fought aside my grandpa in Korea would think of that.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:00:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:01:45pm

re: #447 Charles Johnson

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Teh religious right has always had one goal- to control people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:02:53pm
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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:02:55pm

One more thing that may be of interest, then I’m outta here:

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:04:26pm

re: #427 jaunte

It looks like him, but if it is, his beard went all-white pretty quickly.

Killing people probably does that to you.

…..

We’ll find out soon enough.

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Great White Snark  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:04:30pm

re: #450 CuriousLurker

One more thing that may be of interest, then I’m outta here:

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Thanks for carrying our water on the twitter trolls.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:04:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:05:26pm

re: #450 CuriousLurker

One more thing that may be of interest, then I’m outta here:

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Oh yeah, Billy James Hargis. Even “benevolent” Billy Graham was saying some racist and yep antisemitic things on the Nixon tapes. And I should add the RR only plays nice with Catholics because of shared opposition to abortion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:05:34pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:05:52pm

re: #398 Dave In Austin

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:05:57pm

re: #453 jaunte

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That asshole hasn’t learned a damned thing since Dr. Tiller I see. He doesn’t care if people get murdered.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:06:06pm

re: #440 Barefoot Grin

Oops. She was there to support and speak for Trump, from what I understand. You know how bashful The Donald can be.

She’s a newly minted black pastor, a representative of the people.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:06:33pm

re: #457 HappyWarrior

He’s eager for it to happen again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:06:43pm

welp…get yer popcorn ready.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:06:52pm

re: #450 CuriousLurker

One more thing that may be of interest, then I’m outta here:

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Wow, a Politico piece.

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danarchy  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:06:54pm

re: #420 Dave In Austin

Bride took a 2 second look at the picture and said “Yeah, that’s him. No question”.

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I don’t think so, the hat and sunglasses make it hard to get a real good comparison, but looking at the ears in the 2 pictures they just don’t look the same, and while a beard can grow out that much in 45 days easy, it wouldn’t go white like that.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:07:35pm
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Amory Blaine  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:07:53pm

Anyone having network issues?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:08:07pm

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*eyeroll*

Fucking carnival barker is all he is.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:08:21pm

re: #453 jaunte

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I would have sworn that graphic was fake.

No.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:08:39pm

re: #461 Belafon

Wow, a Politico piece.

Yeah, I was surprised to see it coming from there.

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b.d.  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:08:41pm

The TV show Gotham continues to entertain me.

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:09:50pm

re: #421 Blind Frog Belly White

But at SOME POINT, I’d say, “Now hold on a minute. What you just said is total bullshit.”

I’ve lost count of how many times I have not had sex because I could not go along with absurd beliefs.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:10:48pm

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not only a lying asshole, but also a grifter. One who’s exploiting his standing threat to the GOP in order to extract more concessions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:11:00pm

re: #467 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I was surprised to see it coming form there.

It’s an interesting read. Honestly the history of Evangelical Christianity is fascinating in this country. Until Billy Graham, I’d say America’s most famous one was William Jennings Bryan who was a left wing populist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:11:22pm

oh…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:11:57pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

Let’s see if the Rage Furby’s threat of exposing Rubio as some kind of Lothario actually comes from fruition - but knowing the accuracy of his so-called research and reporting, I’d be safe to say that he’s probabl safe unless someone really wants him out of the race

re: #394 HappyWarrior

Ann Coulter certainly has the old middle-aged crack-whore chic look down perfect.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:12:05pm

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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Oh he wants unpredictable. Maybe he should kiss Putin. NOW that would be unpredictable.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:13:17pm

Paul Weyrich was the RR official honest enough to admit that they didn’t want everyone voting.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:13:31pm

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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There was this guy who ran Germany back in the 30s, he was really unpredictable.

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b.d.  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:14:30pm

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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[trump] I bombed Switzerland just to get everyone’s attention [/trump]

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Great White Snark  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:14:34pm

It’s a difficult night at RWC HQ. Last night Dragon_Ladys father had The Talk with his wife. In his eighties, he is simply done fighting what ails him. Many things wrong with his health some of which the medicine is disabling and painful A man that was frankly a workaholic that provided well for his large kind family. I respect him in more ways than I can elucidate. I respect his decision, and I think he felt something coming. he is in the hospital tonight getting tests but declining in energy. I can’t imagine what it took to say those words to his wife.

I’m struck right now by how our parents teach us until they pass. They showed us how to be whatever age we saw them in as the decades flew by. In our fifties, our parents teach us how to be seventy or eighty or ninety. How to live life in that decade.

Ah crap this sounds way too much like a eulogy and his heart still beats, but damn. I wish him the best. Whatever that means now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:14:44pm

re: #476 Targetpractice

There was this guy who ran Germany back in the 30s, he was really unpredictable.

Nice guy. //

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No Country For Old Haters  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:14:51pm

re: #453 jaunte

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:16:02pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

conservababes.com ?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:16:10pm

Okay, I lied—one more for the book lovers:

A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture Wars by Andrew Hartman. The Kindle version is only $5.85 right now, so I snapped it up even though I don’t have time to read it right away.

The author appears to be a respected scholar and the book was just published in April of this year (it’s 300+ pages long). Here’s a brief interview with Hartman at the Boston Globe.

G’nite, scaly ones.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:16:36pm

re: #478 Great White Snark

It’s a difficult night at RWC HQ. Last night Dragon_Ladys father had The Talk with his wife. In his eighties, he is simply done fighting what ails him. Many things wrong with his health some of which the medicine is disabling and painful A man that was frankly a workaholic that provided well for his large kind family. I respect him in more ways than I can elucidate. I respect his decision, and I think he felt something coming. he is in the hospital tonight getting tests but declining in energy. I can’t imagine what it took to say those words to his wife.

I’m struck right now by how our parents teach us until they pass. They showed us how to be whatever age we saw them in as the decades flew by. In our fifties, our parents teach us how to be seventy or eighty or ninety. How to live life in that decade.

Ah crap this sounds way too much like a eulogy and his heart still beats, but damn. I wish him the best. Whatever that means now.

Thoughts to you and DL in this difficult time. I remember when my grandfather was sick and dying. It was so hard to see this man, one of the toughest men I’ve ever known so helpless and weak. I hope his days are peaceful and without pain.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:16:50pm

re: #481 Eric The Fruit Bat

conservababes.com ?

Yeah that sounds right.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:17:38pm

re: #480 No Country For Old Haters

Wingnut media creates a fantasy world.

And they want to drag all the rest of us down to live in it with them.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:17:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:18:02pm

re: #473 Eric The Fruit Bat

Let’s see if the Rage Furby’s threat of exposing Rubio as some kind of Lothario actually comes from fruition - but knowing the accuracy of his so-called research and reporting, I’d be safe to say that he’s probabl safe unless someone really wants him out of the race

Ann Coulter certainly has the old middle-aged crack-whore chic look down perfect.

He said he had dirt on Jeb too. Honestly, Ann is just too skinny for me. I honestly if I didn’t know her politics would find Dana Loesch attractive. I like dark haired women but she’s like Coulter a nutjob.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:19:04pm

LOL!!

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:20:13pm

re: #478 Great White Snark

It’s a difficult night at RWC HQ. Last night Dragon_Ladys father had The Talk with his wife. In his eighties, he is simply done fighting what ails him. Many things wrong with his health some of which the medicine is disabling and painful A man that was frankly a workaholic that provided well for his large kind family. I respect him in more ways than I can elucidate. I respect his decision, and I think he felt something coming. he is in the hospital tonight getting tests but declining in energy. I can’t imagine what it took to say those words to his wife.

I’m struck right now by how our parents teach us until they pass. They showed us how to be whatever age we saw them in as the decades flew by. In our fifties, our parents teach us how to be seventy or eighty or ninety. How to live life in that decade.

Ah crap this sounds way too much like a eulogy and his heart still beats, but damn. I wish him the best. Whatever that means now.

{{{RWC & D_L}}}

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:21:52pm

re: #482 CuriousLurker

Okay, I lied—one more for the book lovers:

A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture Wars by Andrew Hartman. The Kindle version is only $5.85 right now, so I snapped it up even though I don’t have time to read it right away.

The author appears to be a respected scholar and the book was just published in April of this year and it’s 300+ pages long. Here’s a brief interview with him at the Boston Globe.

G’nite, scaly ones.

CL, have you read Nixonland ever? That’s a fascinating read. The author’s thesis is pretty much to understand how a lot of people who had supported Kennedy, LBJ, and Humphrey found themselves supporting Nixon in his landslide over McGovern in 1972. Rick Perlstein apparently also has a follow up book about the rise of the Reagan era that sounds interesting. I remember an old L&O episode I watched. It was about a cold case of a campus security guard who had shot an undercover cop who was an agent provaceteur among the student activists. The guy’s son said something that stood with me “My old man made fun of Nixon in the 60’s but then he voted for him.” People like my mom’s folks were that though I don’t think either of them ever entertained the thought of voting for Nixon or Reagan for that matter. They were Reagan Democrats without the voting for Reagan part heh- conservative, blue collar, ethnic people.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:22:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:24:18pm

and they will break my heart again…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:25:46pm

re: #486 Amory Blaine

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I saw “Outrage Map”, which at first appeared to be all over Appalachia, home of some of the stupidest wingnuts out there.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:27:58pm

re: #490 HappyWarrior

CL, have you read Nixonland ever? That’s a fascinating read. The author’s thesis is pretty much to understand how a lot of people who had supported Kennedy, LBJ, and Humphrey found themselves supporting Nixon in his landslide over McGovern in 1972. Rick Perlstein apparently also has a follow up book about the rise of the Reagan era that sounds interesting. I remember an old L&O episode I watched. It was about a cold case of a campus security guard who had shot an undercover cop who was an agent provaceteur among the student activists. The guy’s son said something that stood with me “My old man made fun of Nixon in the 60’s but then he voted for him.” People like my mom’s folks were that though I don’t think either of them ever entertained the thought of voting for Nixon or Reagan for that matter. They were Reagan Democrats without the voting for Reagan part heh- conservative, blue collar, ethnic people.

No, I haven’t, but I’ll def put it on my wish list—thanks! I’m still trying to slog my way through the white nationalist stuff (Blood and Politics) and I have books on WWI, WWII, and LBJ waiting in the wings. And that doesn’t even count all the other stuff on my Kindle (fiction, art, science, etc.)

So many books, so little time. *SIGH*

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:28:25pm

re: #492 Backwoods_Sleuth

and they will break my heart again…

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At least you make the tournament. Been so long since my Patriots I think were even in the NIT. I miss Coach Larranaga. I get why he went to Miami but I miss him and that thick Bronx accent.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:29:38pm

re: #492 Backwoods_Sleuth

and they will break my heart again…

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Go Cats!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:30:14pm

re: #494 CuriousLurker

No, I haven’t, but I’ll def put it on my wish list—thanks! I’m still trying to slog my way through the white nationalist stuff (Blood and Politics) and I have books on WWI, WWII, and LBJ waiting in the wings. And that doesn’t even count all the other stuff on my Kindle (fiction, art, science, etc.)

So many books, so little time. *SIGH*

I feel that. Speaking of white nationalist stuff, I watched an interesting PBS documentary last night- Klansville USA about the North Carolina KKK in the 1960’s and how its leader a guy named Bob Jones (no relation ot the famous college in SC) took advantage of the anxieties felt by many poor Southern whites. I too am fascinated by a lot of the stuff you’re reading.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:30:36pm

re: #496 Targetpractice

Go Cats!

What kind of Virginian are you?

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:31:55pm

re: #498 HappyWarrior

What kind of Virginian are you?

A transplant.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:34:10pm

re: #499 Targetpractice

A transplant.

Oh I honestly didn’t know heh. I was just ribbing. I actually don’t root for a single D.C team. My uncle was giving me crap about at that. I pointed out to him that he was born in Detroit and I don’t see him rooting for the Lions or Tigers. He tried saying they were his second favorite teams to which I had to call bs but we laughed about it. I consider myself a Western Pennsylvanian at heart. To use an old saying, kittens born in the oven aren’t biscuits.

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Targetpractice  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:36:58pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Oh I honestly didn’t know heh. I was just ribbing. I actually don’t root for a single D.C team. My uncle was giving me crap about at that. I pointed out to him that he was born in Detroit and I don’t see him rooting for the Lions or Tigers. He tried saying they were his second favorite teams to which I had to call bs but we laughed about it. I consider myself a Western Pennsylvanian at heart. To use an old saying, kittens born in the oven aren’t biscuits.

My mother’s family is all from Kentucky, my father’s from Washington, so I find myself rooting for the Cats and the Seahawks every year. But I’ve lived so long in Virginia that I might as well be a native by this point.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:38:09pm

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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Like invade-Grenada unpredictable?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:38:33pm

Been out of the loop with De Soto’s Revenge. Did anyone point out that Assoc Professor Shields was very likely one of CCJ’s teachers/mentors at Claremont? They overlap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:38:44pm

re: #498 HappyWarrior

re: #499 Targetpractice

Technically, Kentucky was part of Virginia before it got carved out as a separate commonwealth, so Targetpractice has both of them covered nicely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:39:22pm

re: #503 Decatur Deb

yep

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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:39:47pm

re: #500 HappyWarrior

Oh I honestly didn’t know heh. I was just ribbing. I actually don’t root for a single D.C team. My uncle was giving me crap about at that. I pointed out to him that he was born in Detroit and I don’t see him rooting for the Lions or Tigers. He tried saying they were his second favorite teams to which I had to call bs but we laughed about it. I consider myself a Western Pennsylvanian at heart. To use an old saying, kittens born in the oven aren’t biscuits.

There is no phenom like a Steelers Bar. We have them in AL and FL.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:42:11pm

re: #506 Decatur Deb

There is no phenom like a Steelers Bar. We have them in AL and FL.

I can’t go to the annual Slavic picnic without seeing Steelers gear. Now granted there’s tons of W-PA transplants here. But when I was in New Mexico some years back, I even saw a Spanish Terrible Towel. Should have gotten a photo of that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:43:11pm

re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth

Technically, Kentucky was part of Virginia before it got carved out as a separate commonwealth, so Targetpractice has both of them covered nicely.

Yeah I know. I was just teasing. I like Kentucky even if you do have Bevin incoming. The horses, bourbon, and bluegrass make up for that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:43:56pm

re: #501 Targetpractice

My mother’s family is all from Kentucky, my father’s from Washington, so I find myself rooting for the Cats and the Seahawks every year. But I’ve lived so long in Virginia that I might as well be a native by this point.

Ah gotcha. Interesting mix.

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majii  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:47:17pm

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn! If I’d have known Trump was in my city, I would have attended, and I would have been the “Belle of the Ball,” being that I’d probably the only black person in Macon there. s/s The Centreplex is yooge, but it appears that Trump didn’t fill it in Macon today. Seriously, I couldn’t have attended. It would have taken all of my will to keep myself from standing up and shouting, “You lie!”

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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:47:57pm

re: #507 HappyWarrior

I can’t go to the annual Slavic picnic without seeing Steelers gear. Now granted there’s tons of W-PA transplants here. But when I was in New Mexico some years back, I even saw a Spanish Terrible Towel. Should have gotten a photo of that.

Last campaign, was on an OFA team canvassing (badly) in Crestview FL—nutcase central. We came up a driveway w/ a car covered in Steelers stickers.

“This one’s mine.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:50:17pm

re: #511 Decatur Deb

Last campaign, was on an OFA team canvassing (badly) in Crestview FL—nutcase central. We came up a driveway w/ a car covered in Steelers stickers.

“This one’s mine.”

Good move.

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Great White Snark  Nov 30, 2015 • 6:53:27pm

re: #491 Amory Blaine
re: #489 CuriousLurker
re: #483 HappyWarrior

And all of you with kind thoughts and prayers, thank you.
Signing off for now…

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WhatEVs  Nov 30, 2015 • 7:00:26pm

re: #420 Dave In Austin

Bride took a 2 second look at the picture and said “Yeah, that’s him. No question”.

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Definitely not him. Look at the tip and uptilt of the nose.


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