Tech Note: New Feature! Embedded Facebook Posts in LGF Comments

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Today I’m happy to announce a new feature that took a while to get working: you can now embed Facebook posts from any publicly viewable page in an LGF comment.

(The reason this took a while is because Facebook’s API is a confusingly inconsistent hot mess, but that’s another story.)

It’s very simple to put an embedded Facebook post in a comment; at Facebook, just right-click on the timestamp of a post (or tap and hold on a mobile device), choose “Copy” from the popup menu to copy the address of that post, then paste that address into an LGF comment on its own line.

Here’s a screenshot with the timestamp outlined in red…

When you post that comment the address will be automagically transformed into an embedded copy of the Facebook post. Quick and easy, just the way we like it.

Because the Facebook interface is a confusingly inconsistent hot mess as I mentioned above, there may still be some posts that have a URL we don’t handle, but as I become aware of more URL formats I’ll try to include them in the code.

If you’re on a work computer that doesn’t let you view embedded Facebook or Twitter posts, you’ll see a link to the page at Facebook instead. (Unlike Twitter, Facebook doesn’t give us a text version of the post that we can display if the embedding doesn’t work for some reason.)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:46:27pm

For example…

Facebook Post

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unproven innocence  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:46:56pm

I’d be impressed, except that I loathe facebook.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:47:19pm

re: #2 unproven innocence

I’d be impressed, except that I loathe facebook.

After all the work he put in to create this feature, so does Charles.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:51:17pm

I’ve always loathed Facebook, but it’s such a major force in social media I can’t afford to ignore it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:52:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:56:43pm

In the third quarter of 2015, Facebook had 1.55 billion monthly active users.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:58:06pm
… you can now embed Facebook posts from any publicly viewable page in an LGF comment.

It’s this party that I’m not getting:

It’s very simple to put an embedded Facebook post in a comment; at Facebook, just right-click on the timestamp of a post (or tap and hold on a mobile device), choose “Copy” from the popup menu to copy the address of that post

Maybe I don’t understand what is the “timestamp” on a Facebook post. I just tried, and I don’t get a pop up window.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:58:43pm
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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:58:48pm

Dammit, at least someone is doing something. Proud of our Senator Vitter from Louisiana.

Posted by Pete Doland on Thursday, November 7, 2013
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CuriousLurker  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:58:56pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I’ve always loathed Facebook, but it’s such a major force in social media I can’t afford to ignore it.

Especially when people use ad blockers, but don’t donate or subscribe. Maintaining this site (hosting fees) and putting in the time to police it, improve it technically, and write several articles a day is expensive in terms of both time & money.

That is all. Gonna go watch videos now.

Later, lizards.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 5:58:58pm

OK, trying this new shiny tool.

Facebook Post

Maybe Chuck is expecting another LEO as a visitor?

Note the laundry list of dirtbags he admires.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:00:01pm

re: #9 freetoken

Ok, that worked when I copied the link from the “embed post” pop up window, but I don’t get to it by right-clicking on the post. Instead, there is a menu to the right of the post at which I am looking.

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b.d.  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:00:01pm

What other kinds of bombs, in the hyperbolic sense, make things glow?

The Cruz folks are wasting their time trying to misdirect on that one.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:01:01pm

What struck me about that post was not the ODS, but rather the David Vitter would get so much love.

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Brian J.  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:03:12pm

re: #14 freetoken

What struck me about that post was not the ODS, but rather the David Vitter would get so much love.

And what strikes me is that, despite all of Vitter’s best efforts and the millions of dollars spent of his campaign, we’re going to expand Medicare for 250,000 poor people in this state. As Obama wanted. As Vitter and Jindal did everything they could to stop.

Even if we ignore your escapades in the House of the Rising Sun, we’re better than you, David.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:04:57pm

re: #12 freetoken

Ok, that worked when I copied the link from the “embed post” pop up window, but I don’t get to it by right-clicking on the post. Instead, there is a menu to the right of the post at which I am looking.

Here’s a screenshot with the timestamp outlined in red…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:06:03pm

re: #12 freetoken

Ok, that worked when I copied the link from the “embed post” pop up window, but I don’t get to it by right-clicking on the post. Instead, there is a menu to the right of the post at which I am looking.

Where Facebook puts the time the post was made, it’s actually a link. For Chuck’s post, I clicked on the “19hrs” to get the link for Charles’ shiny new feature.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:06:48pm

Beat me by 2 minutes, because I went to get coffee.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:07:03pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Yep. But I have to open that link in a new tab, and then when looking at a window dedicated to that Facebook post, I see the “embed” text on which I have to click, to then get a popup window with the embed code.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:08:07pm
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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:08:37pm

re: #20 freetoken

Ok, that time it worked to copy the link and post it here.

But the previous one didn’t work that way….

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:09:26pm

Does the LGF Preview function work with the Facebook embeds?

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thedopefishlives  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:09:51pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I’ve always loathed Facebook, but it’s such a major force in social media I can’t afford to ignore it.

I use it to keep my folks in touch with their first grandkids. 650 miles by road is awful taxing on a couple of retirees and a couple that’s still getting established.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:09:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:09:59pm

re: #19 freetoken

Yep. But I have to open that link in a new tab, and then when looking at a window dedicated to that Facebook post, I see the “embed” text on which I have to click, to then get a popup window with the embed code.

You can also hold the Control key while clicking to bring up the contextual menu.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:10:36pm

See, that time it didn’t work. I went to that post by Pete Doland luving David Vitter, clicked on the time stamp, and posted the link.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:11:01pm

I’m surprised that the Rage Furby didn’t add Snowden and Barret Brown into his rant.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:11:54pm

re: #24 freetoken

facebook.com

OK… you already found one of the types of links we’re not supporting yet - photo links.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:12:34pm

re: #9 freetoken

[Embedded content]

The President is named Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:13:24pm

re: #27 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’m surprised that the Rage Furby didn’t add Snowden and Barret Brown into his rant.

They probably don’t talk to him.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:13:52pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Oh… sorry about that.

Facebook is quite confusing. I am pretty sure it is designed to make people get lost.

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nines09  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:14:07pm

They did a recent study and came to the conclusion that people are happier when not reading facebook. The rational is that people become unhappy because they perceive others as having a better, or happier life. More fulfilling, blah, blah. I disagree. I think reading posts by people you thought you knew, buying shit by the pound and expecting you to applaud is a reason to bum on the Faceplant. Now type Amen and forward this or be cursed forever as a uncaring cold hearted animal. My life is perfect. And here is a picture of my oatmeal to prove it.

See? Perfect. Eat your hearts out.
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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:14:33pm

Any system that forces you to hold down the shift key to enter a new line when pressing the carriage return key is inherently evil.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:15:44pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

This is just one reason why Facebook’s API is such a nightmare. Photo pages use a completely different URL format.

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Bird in the Paw  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:17:04pm

re: #33 freetoken

Any system that forces you to hold down the shift key to enter a new line when pressing the carriage return key is inherently evil.

Bring back the line feed button.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:20:31pm
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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:20:48pm

Video link…. that was.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:21:14pm
“We know that the killers in San Bernardino used military-style assault weapons—weapons of war—to kill as many people as…Posted by Barack Obama on Saturday, December 5, 2015
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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:22:38pm

Tomorrow at 8pm ET, President Obama will address the nation from the Oval Office about the steps our government is…

Posted by The White House on Saturday, December 5, 2015
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:23:04pm

re: #35 Bird in the Paw

Ah, the good old days….

Image: DSCF1349a.jpg

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:23:13pm

I’m noticing a lot of Facebook posts are either image posts or video posts.

I do not envy Charles programming for these.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:24:36pm

re: #40 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ah yes, when teletypes were really TeleTypes.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:28:27pm

Facebook photo pages are now working.

Facebook Post

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:32:06pm

re: #32 nines09

Amen

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Reality Based Steve  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:34:52pm

Like the new feature. I’m not a big active FB person, I try to keep mine non-political / religious and focus on diving, cats, recipes and silly stuff. I don’t understand the desire to post “Here is my Egg McMuffin that I’m having for breakfast”.

I’m going diving (annual “Polar Plunge”) tomorrow. Not really going to be that polar however. High about 55 or so, be about 44 when the gates open up. Partly cloudy and no real wind. Sounds like it should be a fun day.

I’m not exactly stressed about tomorrow, but I’m actually a bit concerned. I’m making some pretty big changes to my diving rig for some advanced training I’ve got coming up in 2 weeks in Georgia. This will be my first and only time to get to do any shakedown dives on it before I go for the class.

Our shop has done training with this guy before, and one of my friends who did the class a couple of months ago said that he’s patient, he knows that this is new for you, and figure that you’re going to end up changing some stuff around because it’s not quite right for you. On the positive side, he’s absolutely not a “It’s my way, or you’re wrong and you’re going to die!!!!” type guy. He has the “If it works for you, and follows the principles, guidelines and requirements, go for it.

Should be fun. I’m going to be diving with the two shop owners that I work for (they are getting a further level cert), so gee, no pressure there to perform.

I’m going to just chill for a while here, and then play with my RC Flight Simulator. (I’ve gotten so I’m not crashing quite as often)

RBS

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:36:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:37:22pm

Facebook video URLs are now supported too.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:38:29pm

re: #45 Reality Based Steve

Reading that make me say, stay safe Steve & of course have fun.

We are due some pix I believe. It’s been awhile.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:38:51pm

I excitedly await completely out of fucks to give Obama going off on the NRA when he leaves office.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:39:26pm

This is why Facebook’s API drives me crazy. All of these URLs are differently formatted.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:39:56pm

Ugh…..

Ted Cruz easily wins straw poll of Minnesota Republican activists

The Texas senator won almost 2-1 support over second-place finisher Marco Rubio.

(and Fiorina came in 3rd, Figures, considering that we elected crazy-eyed Bachmann……)

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thedopefishlives  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:40:37pm

re: #51 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ugh…..

Ted Cruz easily wins straw poll of Minnesota Republican activists

The Texas senator won almost 2-1 support over second-place finisher Marco Rubio.

Minnesota Republicans. See, e.g., Bachmann, Michele (R-Mars). Enough said?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:42:07pm

re: #51 Eric The Fruit Bat

Ugh…..

Ted Cruz easily wins straw poll of Minnesota Republican activists

The Texas senator won almost 2-1 support over second-place finisher Marco Rubio.

I think he’s going to win Iowa if Trump doesn’t.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:43:07pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

regex getting a workout, eh?

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Reality Based Steve  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:44:35pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea Toujours

Reading that make me say, stay safe Steve & of course have fun.

We are due some pix I believe. It’s been awhile.

I’m overdue on pics. I may get some surface shots this weekend, maybe one of me all decked out. Maybe I’ll do a ‘GoFundMe’ for a trip to do some cavern and reef diving in Mexico. :)

Here’s one to tide you over, here is one of my favorite lizard shots. He was very patient with me.

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:44:48pm

So far I’ve identified four different types of Facebook URLs, totally inconsistent with each other.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:46:27pm

re: #55 Reality Based Steve

I’m overdue on pics. I may get some surface shots this weekend, maybe one of me all decked out. Maybe I’ll do a ‘GoFundMe’ for a trip to do some cavern and reef diving in Mexico. :)

Here’s one to tide you over, here is one of my favorite lizard shots. He was very patient with me.

Embedded Image

RBS

A Beaut.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:47:12pm

And nowhere at the Facebook support pages can you find a list of the different URL formats. You just have to figure it out for yourself.

Hot mess.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:49:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:50:58pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Thought crime? Riiight because threats are thought crimes.

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unproven innocence  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:54:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 6:58:56pm
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nines09  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:03:52pm

re: #44 Stanley Sea Toujours

Amen

Now forward that. To all your friends.

Another example of my perfect life. I have this flown in fresh daily.
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:03:59pm

So I got “Fury Road” on Blu-Ray from Netflix and I started to watch it. I don’t know why I ordered this movie. SO NOT FOR ME. It had good reviews so I put it in my queue thinking WHY NOT.

NOPE. JUST. NOPE.

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Interesting Times  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:04:18pm

Speaking of Facebook, this is what I’m seeing right now as the top three “Trending” items:

Amurica -_-
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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:04:40pm
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Brian J.  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:05:15pm

re: #54 Eric The Fruit Bat

regex getting a workout, eh?

Sounds like fun.

xkcd.com

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:05:21pm
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Jay C  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:09:27pm

re: #68 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Very cool picture. Is that Ted Cruz there in the foreground?

PS: I realize y’all are using that inane David Vitter tweet and its idiot response as tests for the embed functions, but can someone explain WTH Diaper Dave is on about? “Live under Obamacare”?? This makes little sense even from a GOP Senator.

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b.d.  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:10:49pm

re: #68 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That’s amazing. Always found it odd that the volcano stories are always listed under weather.

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b.d.  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:11:54pm

Good:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:11:54pm

re: #67 Brian J.

Could be worse: could be SNOBOL or APL.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:13:05pm

HEAR ARE MOAR STUPIDS==>

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:13:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:17:20pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

HEAR ARE MOAR STUPIDS==>

[Embedded content]

Offended? More like amused that Erick can’t address the oped like an adult. And no you asshole we were horrified by Gosnell too but keep on whining about imaginary liberals. To

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b.d.  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:21:29pm

Reading Andrew’s feed:

Deep sigh:

re: #74 jaunte

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Jenner7  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:22:00pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:23:40pm

Some family pride here. My grandniece has just graduated 5th in her platoon from infantry school, and will be posted to Pensacola.

Maybe any you lizards who are Marines can tell me what it’s like.

My grandniece, the Marine!
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:25:16pm

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some family pride here. My grandniece has just graduated 5th in her platoon from infantry school, and will be posted to Pensacola.

Maybe any you lizards who are Marines can tell me what it’s like.

[Embedded content]

I hear it’s hot in summer.

Congrats.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:25:51pm

re: #79 I Would Prefer Not To

I hear it’s hot in summer.

Congrats.

:D Thanks!

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b.d.  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:27:15pm

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some family pride here. My grandniece has just graduated 5th in her platoon from infantry school, and will be posted to Pensacola.

Maybe any you lizards who are Marines can tell me what it’s like.

[Embedded content]

Congratulations to her.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:28:26pm

WHUT

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:30:29pm

re: #69 Jay C

Very cool picture. Is that Ted Cruz there in the foreground?

PS: I realize y’all are using that inane David Vitter tweet and its idiot response as tests for the embed functions, but can someone explain WTH Diaper Dave is on about? “Live under Obamacare”?? This makes little sense even from a GOP Senator.

Health insurance for your fellow man is tyranny,

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:30:31pm

GotNwes bulletin:

BREAKING: Facebook tries to shut Chuck Johnson up, fails

No one like trolls … being censored

Writing in the third person, GotNewsDotCom editor-in-thief Chuck C. Johnson reports that GotNewsDotCom editor-in-thief Chuck C. Johnson has been suspended from Facebook for three days.

Except he wasn’t.

Truth in Award Winning JournalismTM!

Ever the drama queen, Johnson claimed at 9:40 am Saturday that Facebook had removed one of his posts and suspended his account for three days. His Facebook feed was still active later that day, however.

More at GotNwes.com

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:31:37pm

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Some family pride here. My grandniece has just graduated 5th in her platoon from infantry school, and will be posted to Pensacola.

Maybe any you lizards who are Marines can tell me what it’s like.

[Embedded content]

Did US Army Infantry School at the old Harmony Church down on Ft Benning. That was hard enough. Marines are that much crazier :) Tell her “Ooh-hah!” for me.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:32:14pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:33:26pm

re: #85 William Lewis

Did US Army Infantry School at the old Harmony Church down on Ft Benning. That was hard enough. Marines are that much crazier :) Tell her “Ooh-hah!” for me.

I will, thx.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:41:04pm

re: #78 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I was born in Pensacola. My Dad in the Navy stationed at Guantanamo,

My claim to fame.

Huge congratulations to your Grand Niece. Pass it on

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 5, 2015 • 7:55:49pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

I take acception at him saying that.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:00:23pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

Bubba Huck’s Cliche Shop

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:01:29pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

He deleted the tweet.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:01:44pm

Ok, thoughts on Doctor Who

I know understand, and accept the Doctor’s forgetting of Clara. The fact that he was willing to wreck the universe to keep her alive was insane

What I can’t believe is that he killed a man. In cold damn blood.

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Interesting Times  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:02:11pm

re: #82 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

[Embedded content]

Actually, the 1st amendment *does* have restrictions, e.g. false advertising, death threats, other forms of harassment, etc (though some of the enforcement there is almost as ineffective as current gun laws…)

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b.d.  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:03:44pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

He deleted the tweet.

Huck just reposted it

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:05:31pm

re: #92 The War TARDIS

Ok, thoughts on Doctor Who

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:07:54pm

re: #94 b.d.

There are no restrictions on free speech? There are no times when the government can’t punish you for using the first amendment? News to me.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:10:32pm
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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:13:00pm

re: #96 Belafon

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:15:03pm

A Republican Presidential candidate just promised a nuclear first strike against a non-state actor.

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz said Saturday he would “utterly destroy” the Islamic State if elected president.

“We will carpet bomb them into oblivion. I don’t know if sand can glow in the dark, but we’re going to find out,” Cruz said at the Rising Tide Summit in Cedar Rapids.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:16:50pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

A Republican Presidential candidate just promised a nuclear first strike against a non-state actor.

Is Ted Cruz the Barry Goldwater of 2016?

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Reality Based Steve  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:17:36pm

re: #76 b.d.

Reading Andrew’s feed:

Deep sigh:

[Embedded content]

Yep… and a favorite of the local radio stations. Doing Tennessee Proud.

RBS

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:18:42pm

re: #98 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Read through the replies, and there were people arguing that he wouldn’t get in trouble beyond being fired.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:19:24pm

re: #100 Timothy Watson

Is Ted Cruz the Barry Goldwater of 2016?

Goldwater on his worst day was never as batshit loony or overtly racist as today’s GOP. He actually warned against the Christian right-wing takeover of the party that we’re seeing today.

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dholmes32  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:19:48pm

re: #100 Timothy Watson

Is Ted Cruz the Barry Goldwater of 2016?

Not even close. By comparison to the current crop of Republicans, Barry Goldwater is a flaming liberal.

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The War TARDIS  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:20:58pm

re: #95 Belafon

Yeah. It still matters, because that is what happened to the 2nd Doctor. The 3rd was pissed at the Time Lords for it for a very long time.

Yeah, the Doctor has killed many times indirectly. But this is a little new. This happened only very rarely in the Classic Series, and is the 1st time in the new series.

I also think the next Doctor will be of a minority group, or a woman, and likely happen in Series 10. Peter Capaldi recently had surgery for a torn meniscus. This is what caused problems with Smith during the last episodes of his run, and necessitated the use of a cane during Time of the Doctor.

And we will see Clara again. I think during the regeneration.

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jaunte  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:21:21pm

re: #100 Timothy Watson

Is Ted Cruz the Barry Goldwater of 2016?

Ted Cruz is the Greg Stillson of 2016.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:25:23pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Goldwater on his worst day was never as batshit loony or overtly racist as today’s GOP. He actually warned against the Christian right-wing takeover of the party that we’re seeing today.

Yeah, but he suggested using tactical nuclear weapons against North Vietnam.

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Reality Based Steve  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:28:31pm

Before I go, I have to tell you about the cole slaw I had yesterday..

I’m not a big coleslaw fan, view it as a necessary evil at picnics and stuff. Well, one of the bosses went and got me lunch, a tuna salad wrap (and it was so big that I finished the second half of it today), and it had coleslaw with it. Now usually coleslaw is cabbage, carrots, and if they are feeling adventitious, maybe raisins, with a bland dressing.

Not this. Yes, there were cabbage (green and a little bit of red) and carrots all shredded together, but also little broccoli florets, raisins, some sunflower seeds and peanuts in it. All sliding and being tasty together in a creamy slightly sweet-sour dressing. IT WAS THE BEST COLESLAW IN THE WORLD!!!!! I want to become a woman so I can have that coleslaw’s babies. I would listen to 10 5 minutes of a Donald Trump speech for that coleslaw.

Now I have a new mission in life. To make that coleslaw at home.

RBS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:28:49pm

re: #107 Timothy Watson

Yeah, but he suggested using tactical nuclear weapons against North Vietnam.

True. Goldwater was a hawk, even compared with LBJ.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:29:44pm

re: #71 b.d.

Good:

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It’s pitch perfect.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:31:03pm

re: #107 Timothy Watson

Yeah, but he suggested using tactical nuclear weapons against North Vietnam.

But they were tactical. You know, pin-point nuclear strikes.

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Brian J.  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:32:06pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

Goldwater on his worst day was never as batshit loony or overtly racist as today’s GOP. He actually warned against the Christian right-wing takeover of the party that we’re seeing today.

That first part is hogwash. The expulsion of black delegates from Goldwater’s slates in the South. where black people had been the Republican Party since the 1870s, was entirely his doing and no one else’s. And the party loved him for it. That’s why the GOP share of the black vote plummeted from 32% for Nixon in 1960 to 10% for AuH2O, and has never climbed above 15% since.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:33:20pm

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

But they were tactical. You know, pin-point nuclear strikes.

Right, tactical nuclear weapons, as if such a thing exists.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:33:22pm

re: #105 The War TARDIS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:33:45pm

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

But they were tactical. You know, pin-point nuclear strikes.

Just like drone strikes. Never any collateral damage.
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unproven innocence  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:34:27pm

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

But they were tactical. You know, pin-point nuclear strikes.

Surgical was a term bandied about, at least in subsequent decades, much to the dismay of medical folk and sane people everywhere.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:35:52pm

re: #112 Brian J.

That first part is hogwash. The expulsion of black delegates from Goldwater’s slates in the South. where black people had been the Republican Party since the 1870s, was entirely his doing and no one else’s. And the party loved him for it. That’s why the GOP share of the black vote plummeted from 32% for Nixon in 1960 to 10% for AuH2O, and has never climbed above 15% since.

Goldwater did warn against the RR takeover of the GOP and tried to distance himself from the religious loonies, but in all other respects he was 100% conservative. I was in grade school at the time, but even then I knew I didn’t like Goldwater.

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Brian J.  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:39:18pm

And let’s not forget Barry Morris Goldwater’s other hatreds:

LBJ Eastern Seaboard 64

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:50:31pm

re: #113 Timothy Watson

Right, tactical nuclear weapons, as if such a thing exists.

They exist-they’re called variable-yield warheads. But it’s still gonna be dirty-hell, our use of depleted uranium conventional shells during both Gulf Wars is destroying Iraq as it is due to its toxicity.

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Teukka  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:51:02pm

re: #119 Eric The Fruit Bat

They exist-they’re called variable-yield warheads.

“Dial-a-yield”

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Timothy Watson  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:54:58pm

re: #119 Eric The Fruit Bat

They exist-they’re called variable-yield warheads. But it’s still gonna be dirty-hell, our use of depleted uranium conventional shells during both Gulf Wars is destroying Iraq as it is due to its toxicity.

My point was mocking the designation between “tactical” and “strategic”, as if China or Russia wouldn’t respond to the United States using “tactical” nuclear weapons anywhere.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2015 • 8:57:12pm

re: #119 Eric The Fruit Bat

They exist-they’re called variable-yield warheads.

I don’t doubt it. I’m sure a lot of thought has gone into this. But would they do any less damage—long term—than a small suitcase bomb.

I’ll admit I don’t know much. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quickly rebuilt, and people took up residence right over ground zero. But the long term effects on the bodies and psyches of the victims—was it different from conventional firebombing (I know—a howler)? I tend toward the view that “nuclear” lasts a long time. I may be wrong.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:02:20pm

re: #122 Barefoot Grin

I don’t doubt it. I’m sure a lot of thought has gone into this. But would they do any less damage—long term—than a small suitcase bomb.

I’ll admit I don’t know much. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quickly rebuilt, and people took up residence right over ground zero. But the long term effects on the bodies and psyches of the victims—was it different from conventional firebombing (I know—a howler)? I tend toward the view that “nuclear” lasts a long time. I may be wrong.

IIRC, leukemia, cancer and birth defect rates are higher in those two cities than elsewhere in Japan. Not sure about Fukushima, which has a different radiation problem.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:06:14pm

re: #123 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

IIRC, leukemia, cancer and birth defect rates are higher in those two cities than elsewhere in Japan. Not sure about Fukushima, which has a different radiation problem.

I think so. Japan also has its self-created cultural curse of ostracizing victims. It’s been a hard road for the “hibakusha.”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:13:12pm

From the Wikipedia entry

In the spring of 1948, the Atomic Bomb Casualty Commission (ABCC) was established in accordance with a presidential directive from Truman to the National Academy of Sciences - National Research Council to conduct investigations of the late effects of radiation among the survivors in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.[238] One of the early studies conducted by the ABCC was on the outcome of pregnancies occurring in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and in a control city, Kure, located 18 mi (29 km) south of Hiroshima, in order to discern the conditions and outcomes related to radiation exposure.[239] Dr. James V. Neel led the study which found that the number of birth defects was not significantly higher among the children of survivors who were pregnant at the time of the bombings.[240] The National Academy of Sciences questioned Neel’s procedure which did not filter the Kure population for possible radiation exposure.[241] Among the observed birth defects there was a higher incidence of brain malformation in Nagasaki and Hiroshima, including microencephaly and anencephaly, about 2.75 times the rate seen in Kure.[242][243]

In 1985, Johns Hopkins University human geneticist James F. Crow examined Neel’s research and confirmed that the number of birth defects was not significantly higher in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.[244] Many members of the ABCC and its successor Radiation Effects Research Foundation (RERF) were still looking for possible birth defects or other causes among the survivors decades later, but found no evidence that they were common among the survivors.[245][246] Despite the insignificance of birth defects found in Neel’s study, historian Ronald E. Powaski wrote that Hiroshima experienced “an increase in stillbirths, birth defects, and infant mortality” following the atomic bomb.[247] Neel also studied the longevity of the children who survived the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, reporting that between 90 and 95 percent were still living 50 years later.[245]

Around 1,900 cancer deaths can be attributed to the after-effects of the bombs. An epidemiology study by the RERF states that from 1950 to 2000, 46% of leukemia deaths and 11% of solid cancer deaths among the bomb survivors were due to radiation from the bombs, the statistical excess being estimated at 200 leukemia and 1,700 solid cancers.[248]

en.wikipedia.org

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Teukka  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:16:00pm

re: #122 Barefoot Grin

I don’t doubt it. I’m sure a lot of thought has gone into this. But would they do any less damage—long term—than a small suitcase bomb.

I’ll admit I don’t know much. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quickly rebuilt, and people took up residence right over ground zero. But the long term effects on the bodies and psyches of the victims—was it different from conventional firebombing (I know—a howler)? I tend toward the view that “nuclear” lasts a long time. I may be wrong.

It depends. An airburst is “cleaner” than a ground burst, because it kicks up less fallout. However, because it is up in the air, the heat, blast and radiation causes more damage. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were airbursts, so they didn’t cause that much fallout which would linger. However, Trinity was a ground burst, and the site is still quite “warm” in radiological terms. That’s why Hiroshima and Nagasaki are now rebuilt, while the trinity site and the Nevada proving grounds are still mostly off-limits.
A suitcase or terrorist-built gun device would most likely be ground bursts, and so would contaminate the area both by direct exposure and fallout for a significant time afterwards.
As to the difference between air- and groundbursts, I have a vague recollection that it goes off some multiple of the fireball radius off the ground (i.e. the higher the yield, the higher it has to be in the air to count as an airburst).

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:17:31pm

Thanks. I do sometimes get confused about the precise usages of “tactical” and “strategic.” (I really do; not trying to be an asshole.) But as a 50-something guy growing up during the Cold War, I’ve been trained to think “nuclear bomb explosion=bad” for a variety of reasons. I think there is some science to validate those concerns.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:18:06pm

re: #92 The War TARDIS

The over-arching problem with the BBC’s Doctor Who franchise is that it is designed so it doesn’t have to make sense. That is why it’s not a serious drama, even though at times there has been some very fine acting in story plot-points of deep emotional content.

Since the program was intended for children originally it never really had to be serious, just escapist. In the reincarnation since 2005 it has tried to reach more of the 18-49 demographic, with love-story angles and death scenes, etc.. These are similar to what one would find in a serious drama, but the central plot point of the story - that the main character is a time traveler who can do about anything - takes away the “serious” part of a serious drama.

So, the fact that the Doctor actually shot a fellow time lord and killed him (er… her), while seemingly out of character, can be swept under the rug.

Plus one is left with the proposition that a couple billion years of torture can change a person.

The usefulness of the memory swipe is not just so Clara can be written out of the script (at least as a continuous character), but the Doctor probably can’t remember he killed someone.

I’ve mentioned before and I’ll say it again - perhaps the BBC really needs to let the franchise rest and wait for another lead producer with a different vision to come in. But I doubt the BBC will do it as Doctor Who is a program that is not only sold in the US but all over the world and while it may not be the revenue stream that Dancing With the Stars may be, it is the only franchise other than DWTS that BBC Worldwide has that is a global product.

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bratwurst  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:23:38pm

(they actually lost, and ruined their perfect season & trip to the playoff…this is not the only time a bagger has congratulated a losing team recently either!)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:25:22pm

re: #127 Barefoot Grin

Thanks. I do sometimes get confused about the precise usages of “tactical” and “strategic.” (I really do; not trying to be an asshole.) But as a 50-something guy growing up during the Cold War, I’ve been trained to think “nuclear bomb explosion=bad” for a variety of reasons. I think there is some science to validate those concerns.

You’re right to assume that. Depending on the type of bomb, radioactivity levels can remain high for decades. ICBM yields are in the megaton range, enough to wipe out a fair-sized city and its suburbs, even before the inevitable firestorms begin.

There is really no good reason to drop a nuke on anyone, because the collateral damage — and damage to one’s own security — is too high. Any presidential candidate who flippantly suggests a nuclear strike is not worthy to be president.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:25:46pm

OK, going to try the new feature at LGF. Here goes

Facebook Post

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:26:26pm
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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:29:21pm

re: #129 bratwurst

Yeah, Iowa lost in the last minute in a very dramatic way. Which makes for a good football game, but can really catch the clueless politicians off guard.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:36:51pm

re: #133 freetoken

Yeah, Iowa lost in the last minute in a very dramatic way. Which makes for a good football game, but can really catch the clueless politicians off guard.

Not so much ‘clueless’ as ‘busy’. Senators sometimes can’t wait for the end of the game so they post the tweet when it seems in the bag or set up an email message to send a few minutes after the event is likely to end.

This need to finalize the message in advance is the sort of problem the Chicago Tribune faced because of a printers’ strike in 1948, and then as now it can lead to “Dewey Defeats Truman” moments.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:39:44pm

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Not so much ‘clueless’ as ‘busy’. Senators sometimes can’t wait for the end of the game so they post the tweet when it seems in the bag or set up an email message to send a few minutes after the event is likely to end.

This need to finalize the message in advance is the sort of problem the Chicago Tribune faced because of a printers’ strike in 1948, and then as now it can lead to “Dewey Defeats Truman” moments.

But it also can be described as “insincere.”

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:40:41pm

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

But it also can be described as “insincere.”

Yes, but with politicians insincerity is so common as to be unremarkable.

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Jenner7  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:43:09pm

How is it I’ve never heard of this guy until he gets on SNL??? Leon Bridges.

Video

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:43:35pm

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

Yes, but with politicians insincerity is so common as to be unremarkable.

That’s a fair point.

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BeachDem  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:54:57pm

Fuck Alex Jones and Donald Trump and all their fellow “truthers.” This is the most disgusting thing I’ve heard this week (and it has been a very competitive week for disgusting things.)

‘They are coming for you’: Sandy Hook truthers escalate threats by posting home address of victim’s sister

Conspiracy theorists who believe the Sandy Hook massacre of 2012 was a hoax are threatening the sister of one of the victims to the point the woman and her husband are afraid to go home on Saturday…

Soto’s husband Brent Parisi also received an unnerving message, according to the Soto family.

“They are coming after you Brent parisi,” it reads. “The truth is out. They know who you and your wife are. They know where you live. You think you won’t be questioned for the actions you do? God watches all.”

rawstory.com
What a bunch of sick fucking ghouls.

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teleskiguy  Dec 5, 2015 • 9:57:24pm

I personally know two individuals who were arrested for DUI while on horseback.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2015 • 10:09:02pm

re: #137 Jenner7

How is it I’ve never heard of this guy until he gets on SNL??? Leon Bridges.

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I guess you should be reading Little Green Footballs!

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Jenner7  Dec 5, 2015 • 10:12:40pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

Doh!

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Mentis Fugit  Dec 5, 2015 • 10:24:51pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

I guess you should be reading Little Green Footballs!

littlegreenfootballs.com

But I’d heard Litlle Green Footballs was irrelevant.

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Jenner7  Dec 5, 2015 • 10:25:17pm

This is sweet. I’m very close to my Mom. She is my best friend. I treasure every moment we have together, even the stressful and tearful moments.

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Jenner7  Dec 5, 2015 • 10:33:11pm

Lesson of the day: Pay more attention the LGF music threads.

G’night all, have a wonderful Sunday.

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WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2015 • 10:42:06pm

What’s the Examiner?

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TedStriker  Dec 5, 2015 • 10:56:05pm

re: #146 WhatEVs

What’s the Examiner?

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This Examiner is digital fish wrap.

examiner.com is fully powered by Examiners, thousands of writers who are self-motivated independent contributors. Each Examiner is able to express through words and photos a deep expertise in a topic. Their knowledge is enhanced by a viewpoint unique to their experiences and oftentimes, their location.

IOW, the “Examiner” who wrote that birther tripe on Cruz is full of caca.

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WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2015 • 11:00:11pm

re: #147 TedStriker

This Examiner is digital fish wrap.

Thanks. I Googled and there are like 20 Examiners.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2015 • 11:00:25pm

Hey Teleskiguy,

Have you skiied Squaw Valley or Whistler, BC?

I’ve never been to the Pacific Northwest or Western Canada and I’ve always wanted to go. If I do it I’m definitely going to make it like a three week journey and write a book about my experiences.

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freetoken  Dec 5, 2015 • 11:02:27pm
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freetoken  Dec 6, 2015 • 12:30:15am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 6, 2015 • 12:33:08am

re: #122 Barefoot Grin

I don’t doubt it. I’m sure a lot of thought has gone into this. But would they do any less damage—long term—than a small suitcase bomb.

I’ll admit I don’t know much. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quickly rebuilt, and people took up residence right over ground zero. But the long term effects on the bodies and psyches of the victims—was it different from conventional firebombing (I know—a howler)? I tend toward the view that “nuclear” lasts a long time. I may be wrong.

Bombing survivors had a statistically higher incidence of cancers, but as far as I’ve read, both cities are fine to live in. The reason being that the bombs went off at altitude and didn’t suck up much crud for mixing into the fireball, which itself is literally a radiation product. If the bomb didn’t deposit itself back down on the ground, then there’s nothing there to remain and contaminate the place.

You can actually see this in photos and film of the Hiroshima explosion. Hiroshima’s mushroom cloud was topped by a clean white heart-shaped cloud - the actual fireball remnant. The stem underneath was sucked up crud and smoke from the ground. They didn’t really mix.

Trinity, by contrast, went off 100 feet above sandy desert floor and created tons of radioactive junk in the form of fallout glass and dust. The glassy stuff, of course, is the famous “Trinitite”, which is a story all by itself. Look at the high-speed photos of Trinity’s fireball as it formed and you can see a “skirt” around the fireball of earth being plowed up and vaporized - that’s the birth of Trinitite. Lighter airborne fallout from Trinity drifted north and northeast after the test and frankly I think it did a lot worse damage than anybody truly knows. There were areas northeast of what is now US 380 that were considered very dangerously radioactive in the hours after the blast and while there has been 70 years of weather to wash that stuff away, I wouldn’t be surprised if counts in some of those places are noticeably higher than normal.

I bought a piece of Trinitite last year and it’s really interesting stuff. Various analyses through the years have shown that it’s not harmful - like barely above background level. As long as you don’t eat it, of course! I’ve got a piece of the more radioactive kind, too - the samples with grit on one side, like mine, are believed to have been formed from melt that got pulled up into the fireball and then rained back down onto desert sand, rather than formed from simple exposure to intense heat.

The messed up thing is that the whole planet is now covered with radioactive schmutz from decades of atmospheric testing anyway. I was looking for stats on Hiroshima and Nagasaki’s modern radiation levels, and consensus seems to be that it’s barely distinguishable from all the OTHER bomb radiation that’s been laid down since. They don’t put that in the Social Studies textbooks in school…

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2015 • 12:47:36am

Also, above-ground nuclear testing in the 1950’s killed John Wayne and more than 1/3 of the cast and crew of “The Conqueror”, filmed in St George UT. (not instantly; but their cancer rates 10-20 years later were significantly above the general population).

straightdope.com

theguardian.com

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Single-handed sailor  Dec 6, 2015 • 1:42:35am

re: #152 Pawn of the Oppressor

Neutron Activation also plays a role, and why Chernobyl (and probably Fukushima) was so much worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:21:59am

Y’all got to learn to love the bomb.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:24:49am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Atomic Test Compilation

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:28:33am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Y’all got to learn to love the bomb.

Only place to love the bomb is On The Beach…

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:29:23am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:33:53am

re: #159 Nyet

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I’m not gonna even begin to explain everything wrong with that scene.
Nope.
;)

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:36:39am

re: #158 William Lewis

Only place to love the bomb is On The Beach…

Try to reconstruct what the US and the world would look like if we had experienced the postwar era with nothing larger than 2000 lb HE bombs and an army counterpoised to Russia and China. Trump would look like a weeping liberal.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:46:18am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Try to reconstruct what the US and the world would look like if we had experienced the postwar era with nothing larger than 2000 lb HE bombs and an army counterpoised to Russia and China. Trump would look like a weeping liberal.

Nah. More like the British and German naval arms race. And probably ending in yet another spasm of destruction like that of a century ago that might kill millions but never threaten everyone. There is no new thing under the sun, as it’s said. Until…

It’s once we’re past 2000 lb bombs and it NBC of all kinds that things get messy.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:51:55am

re: #162 William Lewis

Nah. More like the British and German naval arms race. And probably ending in yet another spasm of destruction like that of a century ago that might kill millions but never threaten everyone. There is no new thing under the sun, as it’s said. Until…

It’s once we’re past 2000 lb bombs and it NBC of all kinds that things get messy.

It’s not until we get to NBC that things get scary enough that leaders actually sit down and think.

Except TPGOP candidates.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:53:59am

re: #160 Not a Sparkly Vampire

OK, so he didn’t melt during the explosion, he died from radiation couple of days later, in torment. Happy end.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:54:21am

re: #163 Decatur Deb

It’s not until we get to NBC that things get scary enough that leaders actually sit down and think.

Except TPGOP candidates.

Here’s some fun shit we’re playing with.
en.wikipedia.org

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:56:43am

re: #165 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Here’s some fun shit we’re playing with.
en.wikipedia.org

We must not permit an antimatter gap!!!

Wait…maybe the ‘gap’ part is important.

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William Lewis  Dec 6, 2015 • 2:59:26am

Hague Conventions.

Washington Naval Treaties

We talk fine. Doing what is agreed upon? That’s more difficult unless you have an example like the WWI generation did from Mustard, Chlorine and Phosgene. Of course that didn’t stop the Imperial Japanese Army… Did stop the German Chancellor though…

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 3:03:20am

re: #167 William Lewis

Hague Conventions.

Washington Naval Treaties

We talk fine. Doing what is agreed upon? That’s more difficult unless you have an example like the WWI generation did from Mustard, Chlorine and Phosgene. Of course that didn’t stop the Imperial Japanese Army… Did stop the German Chancellor though…

Even if we had evaded a multi-megadeath Eurasian war, imagine what that scale of conventional preparedness would do to a society. We wouldn’t be worrying about a Bush/Clinton dynasty, we’d have a Patton/MacArthur dynasty.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 3:04:40am

re: #167 William Lewis

Hague Conventions.

Washington Naval Treaties

… Did stop the German Chancellor though…

Perhaps because he got a whiff?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 3:08:07am

re: #170 Not a Sparkly Vampire

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Tsar Bomba?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 3:10:08am

re: #171 Decatur Deb

Tsar Bomba?

Yep.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 3:10:31am

The ultimate penis extension built by man.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 3:12:58am

57 megatons with a theoretical yield of 100.
Weighed as much as the plane that dropped it.
Completely useless.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 3:15:34am

re: #173 Not a Sparkly Vampire

The ultimate penis extension built by man.

More on the order of primate aggression display.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:01:50am
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thecommodore  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:15:23am

I like Facebook.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:35:39am
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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:37:03am
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Lani  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:42:11am

re: #177 thecommodore

I don’t. But it has become the way that my friends and I stay in touch. I prefer private emails with friends, but most of them would rather post on facebook. I personally don’t like our discussions and photos being so open on the internet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:45:23am

re: #183 Lani

I don’t. But it has become the way that my friends and I stay in touch. I prefer private emails with friends, but most of them would rather post on facebook. I personally don’t like our discussions and photos being so open on the internet.

FB has a messaging function, which is one of the main reasons I am on it.

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Lani  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:51:46am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

FB has a messaging function, which is one of the main reasons I am on it.

I use that as well, but I just don’t see it as an improvement over email. Maybe I am an old crabby person who struggles to go with the flow?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:55:08am

re: #185 Lani

I use that as well, but I just don’t see it as an improvement over email. Maybe I am an old crabby person who struggles to go with the flow?

It allows you to chat in “real time”, I find it more convenient than email when just saying hullo and howdy to someone halfway across the world

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Kent Dorfman  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:58:19am

We all know why the dogs and cats drink out of the toilet (or terlet as my north country brethren would say), because the water is colder.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 4:59:29am

Facebook mostly sucks, with maybe a couple of exceptions. It’s not for any serious discussions/debates. The commenting and archiving system is just not suited for this. Hence its ephemeral nature. But it’s OK for some group activities.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:00:40am

re: #188 Nyet

Facebook mostly sucks, with maybe a couple of exceptions. It’s not for any serious discussions/debates. The commenting and archiving system is just not suited for this. Hence its ephemeral nature. But it’s OK for some group activities.

I joined it because it is a great way to advertise public events, like band gigs or sessions. And for the messaging. I have dropped people for getting too extreme with their political ranting.

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Lani  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:01:33am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It allows you to chat in “real time”, I find it more convenient than email when just saying hullo and howdy to someone halfway across the world

I message on my phone or skype for that. Just not a fan of fb….

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:04:39am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Messaging is not better than in google mail.
One could argue that “everybody has it these days, so…”, but it’s a circular justification having nothing to do with the quality of the system itself (and no, not everybody has it).

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:07:42am

The actual best format for serious discussions/debates is the plaintext newsgroup format.

LGF and LJ come second. Facebook is not even on the list.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:18:53am

The Bomb is not the most evil of man’s inventions. Christmas tree lights are the most evil of man’s inventions.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:21:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:25:38am

re: #194 Nyet

Christmas lights, Lugansk-style.

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Don’t try this at home or you will not have a home!!!

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:25:57am
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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:32:26am

re: #194 Nyet

Christmas lights, Lugansk-style.

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“Screw it. Let’s just go with the tritium-filled soda bottles.”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:35:33am

re: #196 Nyet

More Christmas lights, Lugansk-style at 0:50

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Is “shit” a Russian borrow-word?

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lawhawk  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:37:40am

re: #92 The War TARDIS

There’s a reason that I have not liked this season. There’s an unhinged element to this Doctor that doesn’t quite make sense. Not unhinged in a happy go-lucky way, but unhinged in a malicious and angry way.

Despite knowing that he’s saved Gallifrey from the Time War, and being the hero that so many Gallifreyans look up to, he goes and kills the general? I get that he kicks Rassilon and the rest of the board off planet for their actions.

It’s that he shoots someone is so out of character. He’s willing to destroy the universe for Clara even knowing that she’s the impossible girl and that she’s around at all different points in time precisely because she helped save the universe once before and is like the Doctor’s own personal good luck charm (whether he knows it or not).

And he’s wiped memories before - of others and that hasn’t entirely worked out well.

So, he’s wiped his own this time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:38:01am

re: #198 Decatur Deb

Is “shit” a Russian borrow-word?

It is also very similar to the word for “shield” (shchit’). The sword and shield were the symbols of the KGB.

When they rebranded themselves the FSB someone came out with a T-shirt: “Same shchit’, different name!

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:41:34am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

When they rebranded themselves the FSB someone came out with a T-shirt: “Same shchit’, different name!

Doesn’t quite work in Russian, nor in English, unless you explain what shchit is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:43:59am

re: #201 Nyet

Doesn’t quite work in Russian, nor in English, unless you explain what shchit is.

It was a bilingual joke thing.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:45:08am

Sadly, those kids need some shchit. Miocrwave ovens have proven quite safe because of their shielding, the very thing they obviated. A good blast in the face from the business end of a magnetron has some bad vision effects.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:49:52am

re: #204 Nyet

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Heh—the old “Jacob’s Ladder”. Let’s go biblical again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:56:22am

re: #91 Charles Johnson

He deleted the tweet.

Because of the spelling error, not because he regrets the concept==>

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:56:57am

re: #205 Decatur Deb

Let’s go biblical again.

OK
“and their worm dieth not”

Добыча червей на 220 вольт

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 5:59:42am

re: #207 Nyet

OK
“and their worm dieth not”

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That must be the Appalachian part of Russia. Our fishermen’s “worm gitter” is the same thing, using an auto battery, vibrator, and Model T spark coil.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:01:10am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

That must be the Appalachian part of Russia. Our fishermen’s “worm gitter” is the same thing, using an auto battery, vibrator, and Model T spark coil.

It’s the Russian part of Ukraine. ;)

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:03:42am

re: #209 Nyet

It’s the Russian part of Ukraine. ;)

Birth of a new anthropological sub-discipline: Ethnoelectronics.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:07:53am

re: #167 William Lewis

Hague Conventions.

Washington Naval Treaties

We talk fine. Doing what is agreed upon? That’s more difficult unless you have an example like the WWI generation did from Mustard, Chlorine and Phosgene. Of course that didn’t stop the Imperial Japanese Army… Did stop the German Chancellor though…

Though we also were prepared to break out the gas at about any time. Churchill thought about it and ruled it out. And then there was a load of mustard gas on a Liberty ship that was sunk during an air raid in 1943 (Link). That was covered up at the time.

The naval treaties were sort of interesting looking back. They did slow/end a battleship race between the major powers, probably to the benefit of the US and UK - and also pushed the development of naval aviation since everyone then converted a few hulls under construction into large (for that time) aircraft carriers. The secondary treaties led to naval design challenges in ship design in the 1930s (35,000 ton BB and 10,000 ton cruisers.) Though essentially there was cheating there. And one of the latter treaties let Germany back into the game regarding the building of submarines.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:08:14am

re: #203 Decatur Deb

Sadly, those kids need some shchit. Miocrwave ovens have proven quite safe because of their shielding, the very thing they obviated. A good blast in the face from the business end of a magnetron has some bad vision effects.

Seems like they foresaw your objections.

СВЧ пушка из микроволновки

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:13:32am

Speaking of lights and decorations I broke down and bought an artificial tree* yesterday and put it up. It remained erect overnight, so the next step is putting on the lights.

I am doing this stage by stage so that the Feline Overlords get used to it and hopefully leave it alone. So far they seem more interested in the box it came in than the tree itself.

* - I prefer live trees, but the apartment building bans them for safety reasons. Plus I usually don’t decorate beyond minimums since it’s just me and the cats. But brother and family are coming down for a few days so I figure the traditions should be observed.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:14:36am

re: #212 Nyet

Seems like they foresaw your objections.

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ID the problem: A+
Mitigation: D

More ethnoelectronics, cool and purposeful:

CELL PHONE CHARGING STATION IN A REMOTE AFRICAN VILLAGE=SOLAR

The Rural Women Solar Engineers of Africa-Latest

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:14:51am

Pinky and Brain from Lugansk.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:15:19am

re: #215 Nyet

Pinky and Brain from Lugansk.

Do they hatch a plot to take over the Ukraine every night?

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:24:34am

re: #216 Feline Fearless Leader

Do they hatch a plot to take over the Ukraine every night?

Or Russia…

Как добраться с востока Украины в Москву БЕСПЛАТНО

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:29:09am

re: #217 Nyet

Or Russia…

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Amazing youthful determination and stupidity. (When the lady who gives you a free ride asks you not to endanger her with your damn camera, you don’t.)

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dholmes32  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:30:56am

re: #146 WhatEVs

What’s the Examiner?

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This would be interesting, if true.

I do know a California lawyer who would, if paid, take on Ted Cruz’s citizenship and his natural-born citizen status. He thinks there may really be something “there,” but it’s going to take money and research in Canada to suss out. He does have some experience in this area as he represented the Democratic party in one state where loonytunes birther attorney Orly Taitz was trying to prove Obama wasn’t a natural born citizen.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:38:15am

re: #214 Decatur Deb

I have solar batteries and the panels. I use Goal Zero products because they come in kits that are ready to use. They even have some all in one items like the Torch 250. These are great backup for when the power goes out or when there is no outlet to plug into for charging.
goalzero.com

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:39:32am

re: #220 PhillyPretzel

I have solar batteries and the panels. I use Goal Zero products because they come in kits that are ready to use. They even have some all in one items like the Torch 250. These are great backup for when the power goes out or when there is no outlet to plug into for charging.
goalzero.com

My brother has a solar recharger for batteries for when he is doing field work. Very popular when there are students along.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:40:43am

re: #221 Feline Fearless Leader

One of my batteries gets a workout on election day when I bring it to the polls.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:46:39am

I’ve seen thermo-couple based rechargers that capture energy from campfirires or tent heater stacks. IIRC they are a spinoff from the Army Yukon heater booster.

natick.army.mil

(Yes, wingnuts, the DoD has been into environmentalism for decades—they have to.)

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:49:42am

re: #223 Nyet

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Tragic, and you can compare the tone with the other vid. That’s one way to grow up fast.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:51:37am

re: #225 Decatur Deb

The other vid was made later. So the conclusion is that at some point you stop giving a fuck, I guess.

(Almost all the vids I posted are in the reverse chronological order.)

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:57:25am

A 1997 dramatic film caught that vibe—Welcome to Sarajevo.

imdb.com

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 6:59:56am

re: #139 BeachDem

Fuck Alex Jones and Donald Trump and all their fellow “truthers.” This is the most disgusting thing I’ve heard this week (and it has been a very competitive week for disgusting things.)

‘They are coming for you’: Sandy Hook truthers escalate threats by posting home address of victim’s sister

Conspiracy theorists who believe the Sandy Hook massacre of 2012 was a hoax are threatening the sister of one of the victims to the point the woman and her husband are afraid to go home on Saturday…

Soto’s husband Brent Parisi also received an unnerving message, according to the Soto family.

“They are coming after you Brent parisi,” it reads. “The truth is out. They know who you and your wife are. They know where you live. You think you won’t be questioned for the actions you do? God watches all.”

rawstory.com
What a bunch of sick fucking ghouls.

This is the same thing as “Gamergate”: It’s not much more about guns at this point than Gamergate was about ‘ethics in video game journalism’. It’s really more about men who cannot stand to be publicly contradicted by a woman and so they’ve decided to terrorize her into silence.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:02:53am

re: #227 Decatur Deb

Here they are doing their normal funny experiments, when suddenly…

Воздействие микроволн на мыло и CD. Метаморфозы

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:11:01am

re: #140 teleskiguy

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I personally know two individuals who were arrested for DUI while on horseback.

How do you get a horse drunk?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:16:59am

re: #230 I Would Prefer Not To

How do you get a horse drunk?

You can lead a horse to whisky, but you can’t make him drink.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:20:12am

So, I have smoked my first Cuban cigar (Romeo y Julieta) ever. Since I am not a smoker, all I can say is, “Really? What’s so great about it?” But it was free, so I shan’t complain.

My Chinese hosts were surprised when I said Cuban cigars were illegal in the USA. I said it was hard to explain, but maybe they won’t be now that we’ve BFFs with Cuba again.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:22:06am

re: #232 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, I have smoked my first Cuban cigar (Romeo y Julieta) ever. Since I am not a smoker, all I can say is, “Really? What’s so great about it?” But it was free, so I shan’t complain.

My Chinese hosts were surprised when I said Cuban cigars were illegal in the USA. I said it was hard to explain, but maybe they won’t be now that we’ve BFFs with Cuba again.

Rosa’s Coronas

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:27:43am

And Kadyrov has just accused the US of trying to destroy “the world of Islam”.

instagram.com

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:29:34am

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

One further thought: In a very real way, the “Sandy Hook Truthers” have actually become the Big Brother they started out hating. For what is their demand of the Soto family but that its members stop saying Vicki Soto existed, and stop memorializing her. This is quite literally demanding she become an unperson with her name and life’s work dropped into the memory hole. And all this is demanded on pain of death because the ‘truthers’ find the reality of Vicki Soto’s death inconvenient and at variance with their beliefs, so therefore it must not have happened.

All this is in perfect accord with the grim scenario George Orwell laid out. For the “Sandy Hook Truthers”, it is always 1984.

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b.d.  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:31:27am

Reason #247 why Meet The Press sucks. Chuck Todd interviews Sen. Paul followed by Sen. Graham on what Obama is doing wrong and what they would do about ISIS, their lines were laughably predictable.

Those two candidates for office have a combined 2-3% polling numbers for the Republican nomination yet they get half of the “premiere” Sunday talk show time.

DC media needs a new Rolodex and a totally new approach.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:32:49am

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

In a very real way, the “Sandy Hook Truthers” have actually become the Big Brother they started out hating.

It’s like with conservatives: whenever you see them blathering about “freedom” and “liberty”, some fascism is about to crop up on the surface.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:32:51am

re: #211 Feline Fearless Leader

Though we also were prepared to break out the gas at about any time. Churchill thought about it and ruled it out. And then there was a load of mustard gas on a Liberty ship that was sunk during an air raid in 1943 (Link). That was covered up at the time.

The naval treaties were sort of interesting looking back. They did slow/end a battleship race between the major powers, probably to the benefit of the US and UK - and also pushed the development of naval aviation since everyone then converted a few hulls under construction into large (for that time) aircraft carriers. The secondary treaties led to naval design challenges in ship design in the 1930s (35,000 ton BB and 10,000 ton cruisers.) Though essentially there was cheating there. And one of the latter treaties let Germany back into the game regarding the building of submarines.

Washington Conference and London agreements were something Japan’s more internationalist and moderate politicians could point to to say “we are responsible members of the world community” (Koreans and Chinese largely disagreed), but by the early ’30s the agreements were one of the things ultra-rightists could point to as treachery against the Kokutai (“national essence”).

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:33:35am

re: #229 Nyet

Sorry-lost vision for a few minutes of eye-drops.

I take it insurance is expensive for young experimenters in Luhansk.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:35:04am

re: #237 Nyet

It’s like with conservatives: whenever you see them blathering about “freedom” and “liberty”, some fascism is about to crop up on the surface.

That isn’t true for most conservatives. It’s true for Trump, though.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:36:48am

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

That isn’t true for most conservatives. It’s true for Trump, though.

Suddenly you are against generalizing.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:37:42am

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

That isn’t true for most conservatives. It’s true for Trump, though.

DF, remember what the Yippies did to the word “liberal”? That’s what the TPGOP has done to “conservative”. Y’all need a new word—I recommend “Regressives”.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:38:24am

re: #239 Decatur Deb

You have to see their lightning experiments…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:38:30am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

DF, remember what the Yippies did to the word “liberal”? That’s what the TPGOP has done to “conservative”. Y’all need a new word—I recommend “Regressives”.

Feudalists

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:42:30am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Feudalists

Nah, then they’ll dress in duct-tape armor and bash each other with foam swords, like my kid.

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Kid A  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:42:40am

Got to shoot the SWAC championship last night, and it made for some decent frames. Alcorn State head coach hugging a player following their victory. Nikon D4s (early work-related Spendmas present to myself) & 24-70mm.

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Kid A  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:43:24am

One more. Nikon D4s & 200-400mm.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:43:25am

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

Anytime I see the words “freedom”, “liberty”, “family”, “values”, “patriot” and so on as part of the name of a group or organization, I know that I would not be welcomed, and most likely told how Un American I am by the members. It may not be ALL conservatives, but by this point, it’s more than a scattered few. Conservatives have claimed the military, law enforcement and patriotism as THEIRS, no one else allowed. Liberals are demonized and treated like dirt, so much so that in some parts of the country the wrong bumper sticker or t shirt can provoke violent response. Don’t kid yourself.

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whitebeach  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:43:47am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Not so much ‘clueless’ as ‘busy’. Senators sometimes can’t wait for the end of the game so they post the tweet when it seems in the bag or set up an email message to send a few minutes after the event is likely to end.

Honest to God, Dark, is there no screw-up, no matter how screamingly obvious, that you won’t try to excuse if it’s done by a Republican? It was only a four-point game when State began their classic winning drive, which consumed 22 plays and over ten minutes. Also, it was past 11 o’clock in DC when the game ended. Clearly the senator was not rushing off to a vote or a committee meeting. Nothing on earth except her inherent idiocy prevented her from waiting before posting premature congratulations.

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Kid A  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:45:31am

re: #248 A Mom Anon

On my mom’s side of the family, I would be better coming out as a gay man (which I’m not) than EVER letting them know that I’m a Democrat and a borderline atheist. I could lose business if some people knew my views in the county I live in.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:50:08am

re: #250 Kid A

On my mom’s side of the family, I would be better coming out as a gay man (which I’m not) than EVER letting them know that I’m a Democrat and a borderline atheist. I could lose business if some people knew my views in the county I live in.

Being a Democrat would be a deal breaker for a lot of people in some parts of the country.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:50:14am
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electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:51:00am
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:51:47am

re: #252 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Women are just windows/hotel rooms

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:52:35am

re: #252 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

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Fewer wingnuts would get their heads wet if assholes had carports.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:53:08am

Morning. Listening to the Rand Paul American Isolation from the Mid-East (and other select) Countries policy on Chuck Mauls The Press.

Ugh.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:53:22am

re: #254 The Vicious Babushka

Whats in your WOMB WINDOW?

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:54:04am

re: #252 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Nathanson has made the personal choice to have no more abortions if he gets pregnant. Good for him.

If the thoughts of men played out on a screen on their forehead, society would kill us after we were able to give our first sperm sample. (Spoken as a man.)

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:56:50am

And now Lindsey Graham is Warning America That ISIS Is Planning An Attack On America…RIGHT NOW!

The full-on crazy is upon us. Look out.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:57:06am

re: #258 Belafon

Nathanson has made the personal choice to have no more abortions if he gets pregnant. Good for him.

If the thoughts of men played out on a screen on their forehead, society would kill us after we were able to give our first sperm sample. (Spoken as a man.)

Or maybe before.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:57:28am

Left-wing or right-wing?

treefinder.de

Starting from 1st October 2015, I do no longer permit the usage of my TREEFINDER software in the following EU countries: Germany, Austria, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain, Sweden, Denmark - the countries that together host most of the non-european immigrants. For all other countries, the old license agreement remains valid. USA has already been excluded from using Treefinder in February 2015. This is all in accordance with the license agreement stated in the TREEFINDER manual since the earliest versions, which reserves me the right to change the license agreement at any time. I can do this because Treefinder is my own property.

The reason: I am no longer willing to support with my work the political system in Europe and Germany, of which the science system is part. There is no genuine democracy, and I disagree with almost all of the policies. In particular, I disagree with immigration policy. Immigration to my country harms me, it harms my family, it harms my people. Whoever invites or welcomes immigrants to Europe and Germany is my enemy. Immigration is the huge corporations’ interest, not peoples’ interest. I am not against helping refugees, but they would have to be kept strictly separated from us Europeans, for some limited time only until they return home, and not being integrated here as cheap workers and additional consumers. Immigration unnecessarily defers the collapse of capitalism, its final crisis. The earlier the system crashes, the more damage can be avoided. Possibly a civil war in Europe. Not to mention the loss of our European genetic and cultural heritage.

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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:57:58am

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

This is the same thing as “Gamergate”: It’s not much more about guns at this point than Gamergate was about ‘ethics in video game journalism’. It’s really more about men who cannot stand to be publicly contradicted by a woman and so they’ve decided to terrorize her into silence.

What?? Her sister died at Sandy Hook and these assholes say “NO she didn’t. It was all a false flag to take our guns.” So, in their fevered minds, she is a crisis actor and her sister did not die. It has nothing to do with being contradicted by a woman—it is about being gunfucking lunatic conspiracy theorists.

How is that like Gamergate?

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:58:06am

A society full of empowered women is bad for the old ways. Women controlling procreation freak men the F out. Poor things.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:58:28am

re: #259 ObserverArt

And now Lindsey Graham is Warning America That ISIS Is Planning An Attack On America…RIGHT NOW!

The full-on crazy is upon us. Look out.

They will come swarming over the Mexican border, carrying weapons of mass destruction disguised as burritos.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:58:29am

re: #252 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Umm, if wombs had windows, you still wouldn’t be able to see the baby.

Anatomy, how does it work?

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:58:56am

Sigh

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 7:59:26am

re: #261 Nyet

Left-wing or right-wing?

treefinder.de

Stupid wing

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:00:38am

re: #261 Nyet

He doesn’t like the USA, either, I see.

License change and re-release in February 2015:

Starting from 1st February 2015, I do no longer permit the usage of my TREEFINDER software in the USA. For all other countries, the old license agreement remains valid.

This is in accordance with the license agreement stated in the TREEFINDER manual since the earliest versions, which reserves me the right to change the license agreement at any time.

My reasons:

(1) I want to protest against American imperialism, which I regard as the cause of most of all evil in the world: wars, tyranny, poverty, migration.

(2) I want to protest against EU tyranny, which is mostly the result of US imperialism.

(3) I want to demonstrate my sovereignty, something I would welcome to see much more often in science and politics.

In particular, I dislike that the USA and the EU aggressively promote a way of life that conflicts with my own way of life. I dislike the flood of immigrants they caused to come here - come here to replace unprofitable Europeans like me.

After so many years of hard work on TREEFINDER, I have still not been paid any reward.

I want to stress that this license change is not against my colleagues in the USA, but against a small rich elite there that misuses the country’s power to rule the world.

The USA is our worst enemy. I have collected many links to background information, including some in English language, here.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:00:57am

re: #265 Nyet

Umm, if wombs had windows, you still wouldn’t be able to see the baby.

Anatomy, how does it work?

Make it double pane, with shades, and have a magnifying section for the early times. Come on, work with me here.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:01:06am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Stupid wing

Both left-wing and right-wing have plenty of stupid, so…

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:01:59am

what if wombs had windows instead of stupid unix?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:02:17am

re: #266 electrotek

Sigh

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I remember when I took a history course on the history of the ME that after WWI, Persia (modern Iran) was much secular than Turkey.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:03:01am

re: #270 Nyet

Both left-wing and right-wing have plenty of stupid, so…

Stupid moebius wing. He’s wrapped around the bird and flipped over.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:03:07am

On a more serious note, it is of course right-wing, but a good reminder that right-wing can easily be anti-capitalist.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:03:25am

re: #262 BeachDem

What?? Her sister died at Sandy Hook and these assholes say “NO she didn’t. It was all a false flag to take our guns.” So, in their fevered minds, she is a crisis actor and her sister did not die. It has nothing to do with being contradicted by a woman—it is about being gunfucking lunatic conspiracy theorists.

How is that like Gamergate?

It’s worse IMO since we’re dealing with someone who actually lost family.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:03:26am

re: #271 Nyet

what if wombs had windows instead of stupid unix?

*Whack*

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:04:02am

re: #274 Nyet

On a more serious note, it is of course right-wing, but a good reminder that right-wing can easily be anti-capitalist.

I see you read my paper.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:06:01am

Going to bed, though I may still lurk via mobile phone

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A Mom Anon  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:07:02am

re: #252 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Yeah, I’m just a leeeeetle skeptical about all these “former pro abortion” people who are now adamantly anti choice.

For a couple of years I saw this book all over the place down here in Atlanta about some woman who said she was an aborted baby who lived. Rescued from the trash behind a clinic or something. The book was even sold at the damned grocery store FFS. First off, how would she know that for sure? Did her wingnut batcrap crazy parents tell her this? And seriously, do these people not understand that a late term abortion is a HOSPITAL procedure?

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:07:03am

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY==>

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:08:32am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY==>

[Embedded content]

Uh no what a stupid fucking idea.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:08:35am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka
Thankfully not, because I’m not gonna read it. The headline is enough.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:08:37am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

“We had to destroy the village country in order to save it.”

Nope.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:09:19am

re: #270 Nyet

Both left-wing and right-wing have plenty of stupid, so…

You can attack capitalism from the ultra-right. From what is shown, yon loon is libertarian/sovereign-citizen at core with a lot left over from the reptilian brain.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:09:32am

Apparently a Sanders guy. No surprises there.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:12:00am

re: #238 Barefoot Grin

Washington Conference and London agreements were something Japan’s more internationalist and moderate politicians could point to to say “we are responsible members of the world community” (Koreans and Chinese largely disagreed), but by the early ’30s the agreements were one of the things ultra-rightists could point to as treachery against the Kokutai (“national essence”).

Be sort of curious to work out a “what if” regarding those treaties not taking place. A continued naval arms race would have had political and economic issues if pursued further, and then the Great Depression comes along.

With more toys perhaps a wider war in the Pacific starts sooner, and perhaps runs differently since a lot more money was tied up in battleships, fewer (and smaller carriers), and for the US more building based on 1920’s tech and ideas as compared to the naval run-up starting in the mid-30s when they knew more.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:12:24am

re: #279 A Mom Anon

Yeah, I’m just a leeeeetle skeptical about all these “former pro abortion” people who are now adamantly anti choice.

Just like I’m skeptical of ‘former atheists’ who recount their magnificent journey on video.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:15:27am

re: #259 ObserverArt

And now Lindsey Graham is Warning America That ISIS Is Planning An Attack On America…RIGHT NOW!

The full-on crazy is upon us. Look out.

So. If he knows, obviously he can stop it!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:16:23am

re: #269 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Make it double pane, with shades, and have a magnifying section for the early times. Come on, work with me here.

Wouldn’t direct sunlight through that with the shades up be a bad thing?

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:16:23am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY==>

[Embedded content]

I seem to recall the Naderites saying something similar…

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:16:26am

Maybe we should be profiling people who buy assault weapons. And their wives. And measure the size of their penises.

For science, yall.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:16:38am

re: #287 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Just like I’m skeptical of ‘former atheists’ who recount their magnificent journey on video.

I’m skeptical of over zealous converts in general.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:16:51am

re: #271 Nyet

what if wombs had windows instead of stupid unix?

An abortion every time a security upgrade came out?

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:17:39am

re: #284 Decatur Deb

There is a reason why quite of lot of folks on the “extreme” left and right worldwide find common ground on many things, be it positions on Putin, America, Israel, gays etc., and there is a reason why Stalin and Hitler were BFFs before they weren’t. The “red-brown”/”communofascist” phenomenon is unfortunately all too real, cf. modern Russia.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:17:42am

Well, Chuck Todd’s panel on MTP today is a fine 10 minute study of the problems about discussing ISIS and the current political mess it is causing worldwide.

And an indication it is all going to be like this for some time. Add in an election year and wheeeeeee…away we go. Where we will land nobody knows.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:17:52am

I started WOMB WINDOW thread. My work, done. Internets, won.

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:18:14am

re: #252 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

[Embedded content]

Is it wrong that my first thought was: “Not good. Both are going to be breech births”?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:18:54am

re: #290 sagehen

I seem to recall the Naderites saying something similar…

It’s how they rationalized letting Bush win.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:18:55am

re: #293 Feline Fearless Leader

An abortion every time a security upgrade came out?

Fetuses wouldn’t waste their time playing Civ4.

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ObserverArt  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:21:19am

One more thang about Meme The Press before getting busy.

Rich Lowery is an odd man. But I think many of you knew that.

Edit to add. Rich Lowery says watch out for Cruz! Yeah, we are.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:21:39am

re: #297 calochortus

Is it wrong that my first thought was: “Not good. Both are going to be breech births”?

Whoosh!

(throws Croc)

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:22:18am

re: #294 Nyet

Oh, and globalization, of course.

At least initially I thought it was that simple - namely that the academic system was simply too chintzy and promoted all of this mobility of scientists only to keep the salaries low. But then I read in the internet, in the alternative media, that the European countries were being controlled or at least strongly influenced by the USA, and that the USA were pursuing a not so well-known globalization plan. Globalization, in their view, means americanisation, the destabilzation of competing powers, and the creation of a global profitable new society. They want to rule and exploit the whole world. More precisely, a small elite in the USA wants to, not the American people. The promotion of world-wide migration is part of their plan. They even start wars just to generate enough migration. They are trying to destroy the world’s nations, because nations would defend themselves against foreign rulers. A world of migrants, on the other hand, would not care much who ruled. And this is not a conspiracy theory, it is written in books by leading US-ideologists, e.g. Barnett, Brzezinski. Especially in those books that must not be translated into foreign languages. See also:

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:22:31am

The Struggle is Real:

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:23:00am

re: #249 whitebeach

Honest to God, Dark, is there no screw-up, no matter how screamingly obvious, that you won’t try to excuse if it’s done by a Republican? It was only a four-point game when State began their classic winning drive, which consumed 22 plays and over ten minutes. Also, it was past 11 o’clock in DC when the game ended. Clearly the senator was not rushing off to a vote or a committee meeting. Nothing on earth except her inherent idiocy prevented her from waiting before posting premature congratulations.

Perhaps she had pigs to castrate.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:23:42am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY==>

[Embedded content]

Boom!

langley park
5 hours ago

Shane, I can’t type what I really think of you, so this must suffice. Republican incompetence has already been laid bare, 8 years of George Bush, and we got him for the same reason that you want to give us Republican rule again, because people thought voting for Nader would “wake the Democrats up” if we got a Republican president. You would as you said endanger the United States over your feelings of being slighted by the Democratic party. I call that monstrous, ignorant, and malignant narcissism.

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Whack-A-Mole  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:25:17am

re: #252 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

If I had a womb window, I’d hang up a Hillary 2016 sign, just to piss them off.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:25:25am

re: #305 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Boom!

Not juts the US but the entire world. I find it selfish behavior to place purity of ideology above everything else. Yes, I don’t always agree with the Democratic party candidates want or do but I agree with them enough that I don’t like stupid shit like that from self styled progressives.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:25:36am

re: #303 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

The Struggle is Real:

[Embedded content]

That’s not a revolt. That’s an overlord bringing wayward staff to heel.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:27:03am

re: #305 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I support the Bernie fans as long as they’re good boys and girls and vote for Hillary when the time comes.

And if my tone reeks of condescension and paternalism, it’s because I’ve seen enough destruction - the deaths of hundreds of thousands - enabled by the Naderites last time.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:28:10am

*cue Naderites explaining how they were not to blame because DNC and Gore sucked*

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:28:42am

re: #309 Nyet

I support the Bernie fans as long as they’re good boys and girls and vote for Hillary when the time comes.

And if my tone reeks of condescension and paternalism, it’s because I’ve seen enough destruction - the deaths of hundreds of thousands - enabled by the Naderites last time.

Better your condescension than their disregard for other people. I actually like Bernie quite a bit and I recently read the interview with him in RS. A lot of what he says makes sense to me but a lot of his supporters need to consider there’s a very good if not likely possibility that their guy isn’t going to be the nominee and you’re never going to get that Sanders-Warren “dream ticket.”.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:28:42am

re: #259 ObserverArt

And now Lindsey Graham is Warning America That ISIS Is Planning An Attack On America…RIGHT NOW!

The full-on crazy is upon us. Look out.

They undoubtedly are planning to attack the USA as we speak. The question is really “How far along are their plans?”

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:29:12am

re: #308 Feline Fearless Leader

That’s not a revolt. That’s an overlord bringing wayward staff to heel.

Their progeny must learn to obey from the young age.

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:29:40am

The trouble with a womb window is that it would reassure women early in their pregnancies that the fetus isn’t a chubby baby smiling up at them trustingly. IIRC women who see what a first trimester fetus looks like actually feel better about their abortions.

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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:29:41am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY==>

[Embedded content]

That article is the biggest bunch of hogwash I’ve read in a long time. PUMAs reborn; temper tantrums clothed in “righteous, principled indignation”; spewing right-wing crap about Clinton and basking in their delusion that 4 years of batshit crazy awful with the right wing in charge of all three branches of government will be “uh, kinda bad, guys, but think ahead to the glorious revolution in 2020,” instead of truly terrible, as every social program, safety net, infrastructure project, etc. etc. is destroyed and people are suffering in great numbers.

it’s possible that Republican incompetence would be laid bare, and that they’d run the country into the ground over the next four years. If that’s what it takes to show the people that a leftist political revolution is the only viable way forward, it will have been worth watching Hillary bite the political dust. Come 2020, we could be looking at a landscape where progressive politics can finally gather enough momentum to sweep the country, and usher in a new era of FDR-esque reforms.

Hey, sure, they’ll run the country into the ground, but not to worry—the pain and suffering will be mitigated (sorry about those who die—they’ll have to be martyrs for the cause) by our bright, shiny vision for the future.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:30:45am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Hey, I like Bernie, he says all the right things and he acknowledges that Hillary is much better than the “best” Republican. It’s many of his fans I have doubts about.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:30:51am

re: #303 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

The Struggle is Real:

[Embedded content]

If a cat did that to me or my sister when we were that age my dad would have killed that cat on the spot.

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calochortus  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:31:04am

re: #313 Nyet

Their progeny must learn from the young age.

It is really kinder to train them relatively gently from youth rather than trying to “break” them when they are older and require harsher methods.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:31:22am

The people who in my observations complain most about things not being pure enough aren’t the people who are going to be fucked. Most of Bernie’s diehards are white dudes of certain privilege so they’re not going to lose their right to choose, they’re not going to see their families split up over immigration, etc.

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Whack-A-Mole  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:31:30am

re: #315 BeachDem

Not to mention the fact that, as they’ve already demonstrated in states across the country, once they achieve power, the GOP has zero compunctions about rigging the game to keep it that way.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:31:38am

re: #316 Nyet

Hey, I like Bernie, he says all the right things and he acknowledges that Hillary is much better than the “best” Republican. It’s many of his fans I have doubts about.

No, you’re fine man.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:32:22am

re: #315 BeachDem

That article is the biggest bunch of hogwash I’ve read in a long time. PUMAs reborn; temper tantrums clothed in “righteous, principled indignation”; spewing right-wing crap about Clinton and basking in their delusion that 4 years of batshit crazy awful with the right wing in charge of all three branches of government will be “uh, kinda bad, guys, but think ahead to the glorious revolution in 2020,” instead of truly terrible, as every social program, safety net, infrastructure project, etc. etc. is destroyed and people are suffering in great numbers.

it’s possible that Republican incompetence would be laid bare, and that they’d run the country into the ground over the next four years. If that’s what it takes to show the people that a leftist political revolution is the only viable way forward, it will have been worth watching Hillary bite the political dust. Come 2020, we could be looking at a landscape where progressive politics can finally gather enough momentum to sweep the country, and usher in a new era of FDR-esque reforms.

Hey, sure, they’ll run the country into the ground, but not to worry—the pain and suffering will be mitigated (sorry about those who die—they’ll have to be martyrs for the cause) by our bright, shiny vision for the future.

We should capture that rare breed and ear-tag them. Leftists who actually espouse the RW Cloward-Piven fantasy.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:32:42am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Better your condescension than their disregard for other people. I actually like Bernie quite a bit and I recently read the interview with him in RS. A lot of what he says makes sense to me but a lot of his supporters need to consider there’s a very good if not likely possibility that their guy isn’t going to be the nominee and you’re never going to get that Sanders-Warren “dream ticket.”.

I like Bernie a lot too. Some of his fans (not you) are somewhat a turn off. He responded well to BLM agitation, a little slow at first, but moved the right direction.

I don’t see him being the nominee.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:33:25am

re: #317 Dark_Falcon

If a cat did that to me or my sister when we were that age my dad would have killed that cat on the spot.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:34:24am

re: #324 Nyet

Er… so about those WOMB WINDOWS!

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:34:45am

re: #324 Nyet

His words, not mine.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:34:51am

Womb windows would mean periodic phone calls from the window replacement people.

Pella double pane?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:34:53am

re: #323 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

I like Bernie a lot too. Some of his fans (not you) are somewhat a turn off. He responded well to BLM agitation, a little slow at first, but moved the right direction.

I don’t see him being the nominee.

Right. Anyhow, there’s a nice moment in the RS feature where he takes his arm around a young Muslim-American woman and tells her about how he lost family in the Holocaust. Really, people can disagree with Bernie’s worldview all you want but those right wing hacks that call him totalitarian have no idea what the man stands for or the man himself.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:37:25am

The time for the left-wing’ier candidates will only come when the whole political landscape changes considerably.

When the country always hangs in balance between the corporatist warmongers and corporatist, neofascist, theocratic, gun-toting, crazy warmongers, you choose the former, and not someone who is seemingly better but who, without the chance of winning, will tip the balance scale in the latter’s direction.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:41:53am

Speaking of Nader, I recently saw that he apparently told Janet Yellen (Fed chairwoman) to ask her husband about economics.

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:43:11am

@ b.d.
Your #236 needs a slight edit:

Reason #247 why Meet The Press sucks. Chuck Todd interviews Sen. Paul followed by Sen. Graham on what Obama is doing wrong and what they would do about ISIS, their lines were laughably predictable.

Reason #247 #1 why Meet The Press sucks. Chuck Todd.

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sagehen  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:44:00am

re: #329 Nyet

When the country always hangs in balance between the corporatist warmongers and corporatist, neofascist, theocratic, gun-toting, crazy warmongers, you choose the former, and not someone who is seemingly better but who, without the chance of winning, will tip the balance scale in the latter’s direction.

I usually phrase it as “the mostly-useless party vs the batshit-insane party.” Until there’s another option, I’ll hang in with the mostly-useless.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:44:25am

Really, Bernie is pretty real and says a ton of great stuff. His ties to sponsorship are few so he can say what he wants and has few fucks to give. What’s not to like? Our political system makes it less likely he’ll actually progress and win and more likely that Hillary will.

I’ll vote for Hillary before any GOP fuckwit.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:46:30am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

Speaking of Nader, I recently saw that he apparently told Janet Yellen (Fed chairwoman) to ask her husband about economics.

That’s one more thing.

In hindsight, which is of course 20/20, Nader was not better than Gore. Look at this freak’s stance during the Ukrainian crisis.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:46:31am

re: #320 Whack-A-Mole

Not to mention the fact that, as they’ve already demonstrated in states across the country, once they achieve power, the GOP has zero compunctions about rigging the game to keep it that way.

And them winning in 2016 will simply convince them even more that their tactics work.

And these people don’t seem to understand how a 2020 “revolution” will work. They seem to think the electorate at large are lotus eaters who are suddenly going to wake up and go to the polls to revenge themselves. That’s delusional.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:47:52am

re: #334 Nyet

That’s one more thing.

In hindsight, which is of course 20/20, Nader was not better than Gore. Look at this freak’s stance during the Ukrainian crisis.

I actually did not see that. It’s disappointing since as I’m sure you know in his younger years Nader was a great consumer advocate but he’s become a real jerk in recent years because he’s obsessed with purity.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:49:01am

re: #336 HappyWarrior

Nader is just another rich person.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:49:16am

re: #337 Nyet

Nader is just another rich person.

Yep.

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electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:49:20am

“You ain’t no Muslim bruv”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:51:05am

Sorry folks….

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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:51:39am

re: #320 Whack-A-Mole

Not to mention the fact that, as they’ve already demonstrated in states across the country, once they achieve power, the GOP has zero compunctions about rigging the game to keep it that way.

Excellent point. But the true Berniacs believe a wave of righteousness will wash over the country, taking us forward to a brave new world (and not Aldous Huxley’s version.) All you have to do is read the Bernie diaries on the KOS wreck list and you’ll shake your head so hard, your brain will rattle.

It’s kind of like “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians.” I like Bernie and I like what he stands for, but he seldom offers up a path or plan to accomplish his goals. And his most fervent supporters are the ones who are pissed because they didn’t get a pony from Obama, like he promised.

I just hope that if (when) Bernie loses the nomination, he uses his shouty, angry voice to convince his supporters to behave like grownups and not like petulant children.

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Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:51:48am

The “you are not a true Scotsman” Scotsmen are always a part of the problem.

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Thanos  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:52:03am

I’m taking a break from the annual war of the leaves to stop in and wish everyone Happy Hanukkah!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:53:33am

re: #269 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Make it double pane, with shades, and have a magnifying section for the early times. Come on, work with me here.

A womb with a view.



Come on. Someone had to say it.

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BeachDem  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:56:55am

re: #340 Eric The Fruit Bat

Homeless Couple Found Living In Walmart Attic With Hot Plate, Meth Lab, And 42″ LED TV

The mugshots are priceless. And they got away with it for 2 YEARS!

imdb.com

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lizardofid  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:57:12am

Morning all,

HRC on TW w/GS absolutely rock solid. Such a sane contrast to any of the GOP rubes.

smh

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jaunte  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:58:09am

re: #340 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s one of those fake news “satire” sites.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:58:47am

re: #324 Nyet

His words, not mine.re: #339 electrotek

“You ain’t no Muslim bruv”

[Embedded content]

Possibly the ‘truthiest’ line ever. It’s not precisely true, but its a very clear instance of a Muslim man telling a terrorist very clearly “You don’t represent me, you’re not like me and I want nothing to do with you!”. and that’s just the right attitude for a decent man to take with a totalitarian monster.

I just hope the London Met has made sure they know who the man who said that was and is ready to protect him. They shouldn’t disclose who it was, but they should know in case Daesh and its sympathizers find out. Because that’s the downside of standing up as a symbol of the rejection of tyranny: The tyrant and his minions will surely come after you.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 8:59:17am

re: #340 Eric The Fruit Bat

Homeless Couple Found Living In Walmart Attic With Hot Plate, Meth Lab, And 42″ LED TV

The mugshots are priceless. And they got away with it for 2 YEARS!

Read the news-site’s Recent Posts.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:05:12am

re: #343 Thanos

I’m taking a break from the annual war of the leaves to stop in and wish everyone Happy Hanukkah!

Happy Hanukkah to all my Jewish friends. Save me some latkes.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:06:52am

re: #344 Barefoot Grin

A womb with a view.

Come on. Someone had to say it.

G.B.H: beat you to it.

Charged G.B.H. - Womb With A View

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Belafon  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:09:34am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY==>

[Embedded content]

I’ve said before that one of the things that truly hurt Obama’s economic reforms is that the 2008 recession happened too late in Bush’s term. Had it occurred in 2005 or 2006, and Republican reforms had a few years to really wreck the economy, true reforms would have been justified by more people. As it stands, the 2009 stimulus did just enough that most people think that things weren’t really that bad.

I wouldn’t consciously choose to put the country through the shitter just to prove a point, though.

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Thanos  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:09:45am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

So far I’ve identified four different types of Facebook URLs, totally inconsistent with each other.

Wait a few months — they will change again, from my experiences posting to FB from Lightroom they tend to break things a couple times a year with changes.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:10:42am

re: #351 Dr Lizardo

G.B.H: beat you to it.

[Embedded content]

Of course. I thought I scanned it.

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darthstar  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:11:26am
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Thanos  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:12:04am

re: #350 HappyWarrior

Happy Hanukkah to all my Jewish friends. Save me some latkes.

I’m not jewish but life’s not easy, so I never hesitate when it comes to appropriating reasons to celebrate.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:18:36am

Happy Hanukkah to all the Jewish lizards out there in Lizardom.

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Jay C  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:24:16am

re: #346 lizardofid

Morning all,

HRC on TW w/GS absolutely rock solid. Such a sane contrast to any of the GOP rubes.

smh

Yeah, I caught that this morning in a rare instance of sunday-gasbag-talk-show-watching. Whatever other cavils people may have with HRC, I still think she comes across -by far - as the most “Presidential” candidate in the field. Especially compared to, say, Jeb!, who followed her on the show gibbering about bombing ISIS, with a casual disregard for civilian casualties even Stephanopoulos had to question. For my other review, see #331

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:26:08am

The following patch is being sold to help a good cause (Alex’s Lemonade Stand Foundation for Childhood Cancer), but its still so far out there the liberal criticism writes itself:

AK Jesus Patch

$10.25

Limited edition AK Jesus patch with numbered backer card.

Limited edition AK Jesus patch with numbered backer card.

After years of people asking us to make this happen, we finally gave in. 100% of the profit from this patch is being donated to Alex’s Lemonade Stand Foundation for Childhood Cancer, the top rated charity that provides real help to children suffering from cancer and funds vital lifesaving research to end childhood cancer for good. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Each patch is made in the USA of premium Vinyl with a sewn on velcro back and individually packaged and carefully affixed to a hand numbered card. Only 500 will be made and shipped in the order of purchase.

Thank you for your support, and please visit alexslemonade.org if you would like to help more.

One would think it possible to help the children without EPIC FAILing this badly.

360
Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:28:52am

re: #359 Dark_Falcon

They should draw him with a sword out of his mouth, on a horse, hacking infidels into pieces, then it will be biblical.

361
Alephnaught  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:29:52am

Okay, thanks to my phone running out of power, I wasn’t able to finish my posts on the concert in the last thread, but suffice to say that Mànran rocked the Glasgow Barrowlands last night.

Mànran

For an encore the Donnie Munro Band joined them and led the crowd in a singalong of Runrig’s version of “Loch Lomond”. (Yes, the “You take the high road/And I’ll take the low road” song. It was one of Runrig’s first big hits in the early 80s as they crossed over from the folk scene into the rock scene, and their version gets used often at wedding parties as a closing number.)

Barrowlands audience singing “Loch Lomond”.

And after that, a nice wind-assisted walk home. Yes, the storm named “Desmond” was still going on. No traces of it this morning though.

Watch out for the Santa in the top right corner!
362
makeitstop  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:37:56am

We just had an army chopper buzzing the treetops in our nabe. Shook the whole house, made about 4 or 5 passes. I thought for sure it was going down, but after it made all of our animals (and me) nervous it just flew away.

363
Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:40:42am

re: #355 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Ah, California - where snow is a choice, not a fact of life.

364
PhillyPretzel  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:41:15am

re: #357 Dr Lizardo

Thanks. It starts tonight in Philly. :)

365
Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:42:59am

re: #355 darthstar

[Embedded content]

And easy to clip and convert into “hover dog” videos.

366
Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:44:31am

After decades of drinking Peet’s normal dark roast, this morning’s coffee from the medium roasted Ka’u beans my brother brought from Hilo tastes strange.

367
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 9:50:54am

Ka’u coffee is very mild, but very sublime. Brew it a little stronger.

368
freetoken  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:00:55am
369
Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:01:01am

Kid A - I just bought tix to the Citrus bowl! Gators V. Michigan PROJECTED to go, when do I get confirmation of that matchup? lol.

370
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:02:19am

Also try a press. Ka’u in a press is good.

371
freetoken  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:02:54am

How much more obvious does this stuff have to be?

372
Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:03:06am

re: #369 Stanley Sea Toujours

Kid A - I just bought tix to the Citrus bowl! Gators V. Michigan PROJECTED to go, when do I get confirmation of that matchup? lol.

Granddaughter2 will be one of the majorettes. She’ll be the small one with the big eyelashes.

373
Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:04:42am

re: #372 Decatur Deb

Granddaughter2 will be one of the majorettes. She’ll be the small one with the big eyelashes.

I can’t pay 500 for a ticket (for my brother as well) so I’ll be pretty high up. I’ll bring binocs.

374
Belafon  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:09:08am

re: #371 freetoken

How much more obvious does this stuff have to be?

For what? Before people do something? They are doing something. They’re supporting the one candidate who is saying out loud exactly what they think.

What else can be done?

375
Alephnaught  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:10:58am

re: #353 Thanos

Wait a few months — they will change again, from my experiences posting to FB from Lightroom they tend to break things a couple times a year with changes.

Having run an FB page for someone, I can arrest to how annoying the API is. I get a phone call saying “the page isn’t working!”, and find FB has changed some part of the API. I then go and search for what’s changed, and get results for at least two earlier versions of the API. Ugh.

376
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:13:42am

re: #280 The Vicious Babushka

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING YOU WILL READ ALL DAY==>

[Embedded content]

I waded through the argument and he was chastising the asshole hipsters who say they will not vote at all if they don’t get to vote for Bernie. He was just throwing his hands in the air and saying, fine, let’s just try to make the best of it!

377
lizardofid  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:13:58am

re: #358 Jay C

Yeah, I caught that this morning in a rare instance of sunday-gasbag-talk-show-watching. Whatever other cavils people may have with HRC, I still think she comes across -by far - as the most “Presidential” candidate in the field. Especially compared to, say, Jeb!, who followed her on the show gibbering about bombing ISIS, with a casual disregard for civilian casualties even Stephanopoulos had to question. For my other review, see #331

Perzactly! More “Presidential” by miles.

I don’t believe I have seen her this good up to this point. I loved her laughing at the deranged Trump rantings. The contrast is stark.

I’m not saying anyone can relax. But I really liked her tone.

378
Alephnaught  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:17:46am

Blimey, just found out from someone that just a fortnight before the concert last night, there was a firearms incident outside the Barrowlands.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/police-launch-probe-after-gunfire-6879035

379
Mattand  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:19:30am

re: #359 Dark_Falcon

The following patch is being sold to help a good cause (Alex’s Lemonade Stand Foundation for Childhood Cancer), but its still so far out there the liberal criticism writes itself:

AK Jesus Patch

$10.25

Limited edition AK Jesus patch with numbered backer card.

Embedded Image

Limited edition AK Jesus patch with numbered backer card.

After years of people asking us to make this happen, we finally gave in. 100% of the profit from this patch is being donated to Alex’s Lemonade Stand Foundation for Childhood Cancer, the top rated charity that provides real help to children suffering from cancer and funds vital lifesaving research to end childhood cancer for good. Your help is greatly appreciated.Su

Each patch is made in the USA of premium Vinyl with a sewn on velcro back and individually packaged and carefully affixed to a hand numbered card. Only 500 will be made and shipped in the order of purchase.

Thank you for your support, and please visit alexslemonade.org if you would like to help more.

One would think it possible to help the children without EPIC FAILing this badly.

Some ammosexual created a patch depicting one of history’s greatest pacifists humping an automatic gun, and you’re worried about liberal criticism.

This stuff writes itself.

380
Jenner7  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:20:03am

Morning Lizards….

381
Lidane  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:20:50am
382
Amory Blaine  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:24:40am

re: #361 Alephnaught

It looks like a fun time was had by all (great photos BTW). Have to listen to some Mànran, now that I’m curious.

383
Jenner7  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:28:14am

If Obama just says “Radical Islamic Terrorism” three times, ISIS will go away!!! WHY WON’T HE SAY IT?!?!?!

I shouldn’t have read the FB comments on Cspan.

384
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:34:30am

Only on Twitter would you find Muslims that support Trump and bash on Syrian refugees SMDH:

385
Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:37:45am

re: #384 electrotek

Only on Twitter would you find Muslims that support Trump and bash on Syrian refugees SMDH:

[Embedded content]

That Twitter account is a 14-yr old girl. Or an FBI agent.

386
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:38:57am

re: #385 Decatur Deb

That Twitter account is a 14-yr old girl. Or an FBI agent.

That FBI agent must be Frank Haddad for that matter lol

387
freetoken  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:41:40am

re: #374 Belafon

For what?

For the corporate suck-ups that label themselves as “journalists” to call Trump on his bigotry and fascistic tendencies.

388
Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:42:51am

re: #386 electrotek

That FBI agent must be Frank Haddad for that matter lol

Had to look him up.

389
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:45:26am

re: #388 Decatur Deb

Had to look him up.

It was a reference to The Siege haha

390
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:45:45am

But we all know how the Syrian issue is based on sectarian lines nowadays.

391
Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:46:39am

re: #384 electrotek

Or it could be a Trump supporter pretending to be a Muslim.

392
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:47:47am

re: #391 Nyet

Or it could be a Trump supporter pretending to be a Muslim.

Maybe but I have encountered Pakistanis who support Trump which boggles the mind. It’s not hard to believe that there are Muslims who still kiss ass to the Republican Party still.

393
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:49:24am

re: #391 Nyet

Or it could be a Trump supporter pretending to be a Muslim.

Plus given the intelligence of a typical white Trump supporter, I doubt they would go out of their way to pretend to be Lebanese. Does an average Trump supporter even know what ‘jnoubi’ means to begin with?

394
Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:52:08am

re: #393 electrotek

You have a point.
The height of their creativity would probably be to pretend to be a new Osama.
Like that troll arrested a few weeks ago.

395
thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:54:12am

re: #392 electrotek

Maybe but I have encountered Pakistanis who support Trump which boggles the mind. It’s not hard to believe that there are Muslims who still kiss ass to the Republican Party still.

Stupidity transcends party boundaries.

Afternoon Lizardim.

396
Lidane  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:55:40am

DUCK AND COVER!

397
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:56:17am

re: #395 thedopefishlives

Stupidity transcends party boundaries.

Afternoon Lizardim.

I did once argue with an Iranian Trump supporter on Facebook who started whining about Muslims and started mocking how Muslims pray to Makkah. Since he was a typical Iranian shah supporter, I immediately posted a photo of his blessed shah on a pilgrimage to Makkah in the 70s doing the same thing he mocks Muslims for and he didn’t respond after that.

398
thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2015 • 10:59:51am

re: #396 Lidane

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: Governor Christie, who, exactly, would want to blow up New Jersey? Nobody wants to do anything in New Jersey.

399
Charles Johnson  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:01:21am

lolwut?

Facebook Post

400
thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:03:48am

re: #399 Charles Johnson

Right now, Chuck, a good start would be you giving up the bottle.

401
Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:05:27am
A portrait of the southern California housewife who joined her husband on a deadly rampage at his office Christmas party last week has begun to emerge, with indications that she had become more devout in recent years.

nbcnews.com

Again with the weasel word. They elaborate on its meaning as follows:

The aunt, Hifza Batool, told the AP that relatives saw her niece dress more conservatively and urge people to live a religious life.

“I recently heard it from relatives that she has become a religious person, and she often tells people to live according to the teachings of Islam,” Batool told the AP from the town of Karor Lal Esan, some 280 miles southwest of the Pakistani capital of Islamabad.

So she became more conservative and preachy. Devout though? It’s a subjective term. Are they implying that the more liberal Muslims are not devout in their beliefs? If not, maybe they should drop the arbitrary and potentially inflammatory subjective delineation into devout and non-devout?

402
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:06:45am

re: #401 Nyet

For a couple minutes, I thought that was about Kim Davis.

403
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:07:25am

Oh look what slithered into my mentions

404
Skip Intro  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:08:24am

Ted Cruz makes a promise:

Cruz, who entered and exited to a standing ovation from the crowd, promised to “utterly destroy” Islamic terrorists.

“We will carpet-bomb them into oblivion,” Cruz said. “I don’t know if sand can glow in the dark, but we’re going to find out.”

abcnews.go.com

Carpet-bomb? So Cruz will just kill everybody.

405
freetoken  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:09:30am

re: #401 Nyet

Language is a difficult thing and the nominally secular media can have a real struggle with describing the religious acts of religious people.

What it sounds like is that the woman was becoming more observant of a stricter interpretation of life-codes found in some Muslim teachings.

406
Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:10:22am

re: #389 electrotek

It was a reference to The Siege haha

I picked up on it. I was like “Wow, what an obscure reference!” lol.

Sidenote: Good, eerily prophetic movie.

407
Lidane  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:11:23am

re: #404 Skip Intro

408
b.d.  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:12:00am

BREAKING!: Donald Trump’s children have their father committed to a mental institution, apologize to the nation.

GOP scrambles.

//

409
A Mom Anon  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:12:40am

re: #398 thedopefishlives

vDuMpG7YiLAhFvCuPICSwQ5xwL0XRRqfPJ4VjbU+7LyGV0i+Y67vIuV58TEwjHChu5V4EGYbD1H7z8vvR+ia4r8klUfwwPpjf3jcEwDNTZabJPlRGqOoQXsdL6s4kB7NKPEvW47kLF7Zsvu9f+rFSYx40vSfcgONKULQFhUesyWTINKGk4wb4MEu+dZP1xFbtd1B9Qm8XKiZOL1CZw79QMCG2sa/EsiDbY4l2/Lkw4BoFIy82ebjUNOnabYgFCb14l+JrJIpLYASxYs/kd+dvx4u4yXubGcbQ5nHTp3vfMh3xlnD4T94LqDeentfHRSINzWsWAxlOHluYY/i1DVhy/RmT9MF2HOJ5EA4+oGLPSfCDX1/kuiO2Uc1M7BIjoLp0v70UxJ3uY6SOsN0DaevvO1CBLI7hjwLhpQ58cMlaYzS1epmex3pxrhiRK3RxIgVdYYdcXfJ3Q0YGZ0niswMyFMFuVBy9qn6suGsnyot8DX4FF0acRLgti0UBfKRceUOMZU5ynSq22dQhfcsb/4u8kYIuT/+OnT59j/cESGdwZEMWGAcX9OZPaxbxIrjCnOYqETIUy74zMwyiFngM7MzuFNz0UeJdjta7t3ZkE3stu4ziKSUsXWEafnDrGMcy4pxxamyqMMGI8VVR7Nbs8JSTQszz3aGzx5+C3qcETO+TYPacDpmALKfs1sZGSgFH7AWogG8yVq6sm2OWshk/t/JQTCz1mHNmOY+WjTr+ZP9FX5qGblBt8ylEJyZXpMR8F8ZkCmiW3Y5mGjGlo60VDrb+o/MSsxdr90Qnldgb+MzF3cBvrGuJw/wGqps+ttmu1urmsAqzAHRbDTDK4VJFTQvr89O5jty+DkwXCztU9Yx6QStRPxx+pCltPLC4PfWb0RiMVt+iPowVAILAClAKCPBkk5eO19TUNCk7kHnBHw4o1rizlz6hAfEMPff+1pgp7FwiKZiDIfiBOckRVasAFIMU5NV7pvq8eyLStyuAyRIlcbcIiMHRMEWDzmdyU2SAIVGCBN1w9zsVW2WfHX8ZZ/mVhKZKlPvdbVy00MHfJ9Kq2C++lyrc1oRlvJ9u2Fsi1SEWfBZxny8PsnRakfarPVNg1Vgj6pNQmE9i3zVmtr1uq1nmfpYs5qV/FAGsm+PwDfsXRAXc/8CLRuyNbCeSEqg4w==

410
b.d.  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:13:09am

re: #404 Skip Intro

Ted Cruz makes a promise:

Cruz, who entered and exited to a standing ovation from the crowd, promised to “utterly destroy” Islamic terrorists.

“We will carpet-bomb them into oblivion,” Cruz said. “I don’t know if sand can glow in the dark, but we’re going to find out.”

abcnews.go.com

Carpet-bomb? So Cruz will just kill everybody.

Precision carpet bombing.

//

411
Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:13:19am

re: #405 freetoken

I’d go with “extremist” and “fanatical”, if I wanted to express it in one word. An image of a devout Muslim terrorist is the thing that ISIS wants to promote.

412
BeachDem  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:15:34am

re: #399 Charles Johnson

lolwut?

[Embedded content]

Has he always had Claremont Colleges in his facebook sig or is this something new? Just curious. He’s been out of college for years now—is he back in the CC fold somehow?

413
whitebeach  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:16:04am

re: #378 Alephnaught

Blimey, just found out from someone that just a fortnight before the concert last night, there was a firearms incident outside the Barrowlands.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/police-launch-probe-after-gunfire-6879035

You’re kidding us, right? Somebody heard a few lousy shots a couple of weeks ago and nobody was even hurt? You do realize you’re talking mainly to Americans here, don’t you? What makes you think we’re interested in some little flower-show snittery like this? Show us at least three or four good fresh corpses and maybe half a dozen bleeding wounded or GTFO.

414
Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:18:38am

re: #401 Nyet

nbcnews.com

Again with the weasel word. They elaborate on its meaning as follows:

So she became more conservative and preachy. Devout though? It’s a subjective term. Are they implying that the more liberal Muslims are not devout in their beliefs? If not, maybe they should drop the arbitrary and potentially inflammatory subjective delineation into devout and non-devout?

And telling people to “live the teachings of Islam” can mean a lot of different things as well depending on who you ask.

415
electrotek  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:19:02am

Song in reference, British grime for ya:

Skepta - Shutdown

416
The Vicious Babushka  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:19:49am

Should I go to the Menorah event this evening in downtown Detroit?

I’m trying to grab a ride with a neighbor so I don’t have to hassle with parking. It should be fun. I hardly ever go out.

417
Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:20:57am

re: #414 Feline Fearless Leader

And telling people to “live the teachings of Islam” can mean a lot of different things as well depending on who you ask.

Exactly!
It’s like saying, “she became a more and more devout Christian after joining the Westboro Church”.

418
Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:21:20am

re: #410 b.d.

Precision carpet bombing.

//

Should ask what kind of carpet he plans to drop. Shag, Persian, or Trump hairpieces.

419
Nyet  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:23:28am

re: #417 Nyet

PS: which doesn’t change the fact that Westboro freaks are Christians and that people trying to deny this are …….. not doing themselves any favors.

420
thedopefishlives  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:23:30am

re: #418 Feline Fearless Leader

Should ask what kind of carpet he plans to drop. Shag, Persian, or Trump hairpieces.

It’s the Middle East, so the logical answer is, flying carpet.

421
sagehen  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:35:23am

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

Should I go to the Menorah event this evening in downtown Detroit?

I’m trying to grab a ride with a neighbor so I don’t have to hassle with parking. It should be fun. I hardly ever go out.

Only if there’s latkes. Otherwise, don’t waste the trip.

422
Decatur Deb  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:55:07am

re: #410 b.d.

Precision carpet bombing.

//

Kilim killing.

423
Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 6, 2015 • 11:58:51am

re: #420 thedopefishlives

It’s the Middle East, so the logical answer is, flying carpet.

He can probably get a deal on Muslim prayer carpets made in Mexico.


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