Donald Trump Calls for “Total and Complete Shutdown of Muslims Entering the United States”

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This stunningly bigoted press release just came from the Donald Trump campaign. Trump is leading the Republican Party into a very dark future.

(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, — Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing “25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad” and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.” Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.” – Donald J. Trump

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:48:32pm

Trump’s poll numbers shoot up again…..

half sarc

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EPR-radar  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:49:07pm

This looks like a pretty easy way for Trump to win the GOP nomination. I’ll be surprised if anything can stop that now.

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Belafon  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:49:11pm

Finally someone wanting to do something about religious fanaticism. All the dangerous so called Christians will finally have someone to be worried about.

Wait, that’s not what he’s talking about?

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:49:28pm

“When I hear folks say, ‘Well, maybe we should just admit the Christians and not the Muslims,’ when I hear political leaders suggesting there should be a religious test for which person who’s fleeing from a war torn country — that’s shameful,” Obama said. “That’s not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have religious tests to our compassion.”
splcenter.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:49:36pm
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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:50:14pm
until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on

without looking at the various polling data

hmmmm.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:50:16pm

re: #2 EPR-radar

This looks like a pretty easy way for Trump to win the GOP nomination. I’ll be surprised if anything can stop that now.

JEB! can fix this!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:50:19pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Why would Trump say that about the Values Voters Conference attendees?

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:50:29pm
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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:50:36pm
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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:51:17pm

Basic understanding of diffusion would suggest that it’s almost impossible to have influx of religious hatred into this country.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:51:36pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:52:10pm

re: #11 Testy Toad T

Basic understanding of diffusion would suggest that it’s almost impossible to have influx of religious hatred into this country.

I seen what you done there.

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Tigger2  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:52:21pm

Repost from below.

HAHAHA
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:52:55pm
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Dr. Matt  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:53:16pm
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KGxvi  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:53:28pm

re: #10 jaunte

I swear to everything, I am actually starting to miss the days of “if we do [x] then the terrorists will have won”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:53:47pm
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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:54:12pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

What a chickenshit.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:54:15pm

That photo of Trump at the top of the page.

I can see the boogers in his nostril.

*vomits*

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:54:29pm

ISIS plan to defeat America:

Stage terrorist attacks on the eve of every GOP primary election until Trump is assured nomination.

Stage major terrorist attack near the general election.

Result: President Trump leads America down the drain.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:54:39pm

re: #10 jaunte

Our counterproductive hysteria will be yuuuuuuuuge, it’ll be built by a winner, Trump’s built bigger, shinier, winnier hysteria than Obama or Hillary ever has, they’re losers, they never built a hysteria a day in their lives.

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Jenner7  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:54:49pm
Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.” - Donald J. Trump

I can help you. The hatred is coming from you and your fans. Go fuck yourself, Mr. Trump.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:54:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:54:59pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

That photo of Trump at the top of the page.

I can see the boogers in his nostril.

*vomits*

And they’re the least disgusting thing in the picture.

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blueraven  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:56:01pm

Congratulations Mr Trump, you are the ISIS recruiter of the month.

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lockjawcanbefun  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:56:11pm

I can just imagine the yee-hah types that he’ll bring in to enforce this.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:56:11pm

DEAR MISTAH. TRUMP:

CAN U PLZ EXPLAIN TEH DIFFERENCE TWEEN TEH ISLAMIC CONCEPT TWEEN TEH LESR JIHAD AN GREATR JIHAD, AN STATE WUT KIND WUZ ON DISPLAY LAST WEEK IN SAN BERNARDINO?

KTHXBAI

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Kid A  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:56:25pm

This country is going straight to hell.

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KGxvi  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:56:27pm

re: #14 Tigger2

Needs more fire.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:56:27pm

re: #24 Kragar

He’s a deep thinker.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:57:08pm

re: #24 Kragar

He is pushing it on Twitter. I’m surprised Sean Davis seems to be skeptical - this is the same way he talks.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:57:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:57:56pm

re: #31 jaunte

Davis is a raging asshole. In other words, a typical right wing “journalist.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:58:44pm

re: #33 jaunte

I also wonder how the 3,409 Muslims serving in our active duty military feel about Trump’s statement.

…and all the other Muslim citizens and residents of America working to make and keep our country safe.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 7, 2015 • 1:58:59pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

He is pushing it on Twitter. I’m surprised Sean Davis seems to be skeptical - this is the same way he talks.

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And according to TPM, his spokesman confirmed it’s legit.

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Teukka  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:00:00pm

When I hear this latest statement of Trump, this comes to mind…

8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.

Source: The 25-point Program

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Tigger2  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:00:36pm

re: #31 jaunte

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He’s a deep thinker.

It wouldn’t have to be a stupid time if the rightwing in this country weren’t raving lunatics.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:01:10pm

re: #31 jaunte

He’s a deep thinker.

When did we Democrats say we wanted to ban due process for Muslims? I missed that one.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:01:18pm

Center for Security Policy

Oh, joy: An SPLC-designated Hate Group. Figures.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:02:23pm

I think he’ll get what he wants. 24/7 press coverage.

Now it will be negative coverage (hopefully) but..

This has got to end.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:03:06pm

re: #24 Kragar

Do interns shit in the woods? //

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Teukka  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:03:12pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea Toujours

I think he’ll get what he wants. 24/7 press coverage.

Now it will be negative coverage (hopefully) but..

This has got to end.

Question is how?

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:03:15pm

re: #40 Eric The Fruit Bat

Center for Security Policy

A SPLC-designated Hate Group. Figures.

Frank Gaffney, buds with Pamela Geller, now mainstreamed by Donald Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:03:56pm

re: #40 Eric The Fruit Bat

Center for Security Policy

Oh, joy: An SPLC-designated Hate Group. Figures.

Frank Gaffney. That’s where he’s getting his info. Frank Fucking Gaffney.

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blueraven  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:04:15pm

re: #43 Teukka

Question is how?

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:04:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:05:45pm

ya think so, Sean???

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Great White Snark  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:06:18pm

So if an American born Muslim goes to see relatives, or on the Hajj can they come home or not? Going to deny an American citizen the right to re enter?!

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:06:25pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m surprised he’s surprised.

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Teukka  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:06:48pm

It just came to my knowledge that there may be a new conservative codeword in circulation:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:07:23pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

ya think so, Sean???

I guess Sean hasn’t gotten the memo yet. By tomorrow he’ll be saying it’s the greatest idea ever and why won’t Obama ban all Muslim immigrants?

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:07:26pm

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

ISIS plan to defeat America:

Stage terrorist attacks on the eve of every GOP primary election until Trump is assured nomination.

Stage major terrorist attack near the general election.

Result: President Trump leads America the world down the drain.

FTFY. Trump is not the sort of person who will refrain from the nuclear option even if the problem is that the honour guard in a foreign country wasn’t classy or big enough.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:07:38pm

re: #49 Great White Snark

So if an American born Muslim goes to see relatives, or on the Hajj can they come home or not? Going to deny an American citizen the right to re enter?!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:08:19pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

ya think so, Sean???

But isn’t the whole “we won’t take no Syrian refugees in our state” demand from GOP governors essentially the same thing?

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EPR-radar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:08:50pm

re: #50 jaunte

I’m surprised he’s surprised.

GOP apologists have very selective vision when they look at their party. The fact that a large fraction of the GOP base are self-propagandized Fox News/hate radio idiots always comes as a surprise to them.

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blueraven  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:09:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:10:26pm
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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:10:58pm

I can’t believe I’m bothering to think about this, but I wonder who Trump would pick as a running mate, and in turn how fast he’d get the promotion after Congress impeached the shit out of The Donald.

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Teukka  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:11:08pm

re: #57 blueraven

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:12:39pm
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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:12:47pm

I have been alarmed by the Trump campaign for many months, but I have also been hesitant to paint him as some kind of fascist…until now.

This is way WAY over the line. There is a GOP debate one week from tomorrow night. I cannot wait to see how many candidates are brave enough to denounce this. My guess is that nobody in the top tier will have the intestinal fortitude. I hope I am wrong.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:13:03pm
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Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:13:28pm
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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:14:09pm

re: #62 bratwurst

I have been alarmed by the Trump campaign for many months, but I have also been hesitant to paint him as some kind of fascist…until now.

This is way WAY over the line. There is a GOP debate one week from tomorrow night. I cannot wait to see how many candidates are brave enough to denounce this. My guess is that nobody in the top tier will have the intestinal fortitude. I hope I am wrong.

To be perfectly frank, there had better be discussions going on in the RNC right now about who’s going to take one for the team and pull a campaign kamikaze.

sadlol@McCain’s “Country First” crap

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:14:40pm
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Brian J.  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:16:06pm

re: #62 bratwurst

I have been alarmed by the Trump campaign for many months, but I have also been hesitant to paint him as some kind of fascist…until now.

This is way WAY over the line. There is a GOP debate one week from tomorrow night. I cannot wait to see how many candidates are brave enough to denounce this. My guess is that nobody in the top tier will have the intestinal fortitude. I hope I am wrong.

The over-under is 0.5, and I doubt you’ll find anyone who will take the over.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:16:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:17:02pm
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KGxvi  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:17:21pm

I’ve been playing around with the new 538 model where you can slide turnout and vote preferences to see the result in the presidential election. Assuming turnout and margins stayed the same for African Americans, Latinos, and Asian voters, the GOP would have to pick up 5-7% among either college educated white voters or non-college educated white voters (again assuming turn out remained the same) - they’re already at 56% of college educated whites and 62% of non-college educated whites. That seems like a very difficult way to go about winning a national election.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:18:58pm

…

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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:19:04pm

The candidates with absolutely NO CHANCE whatsoever are already piling on:

I am waiting to hear from someone who actually has a chance to finish in the top 2 in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina (so in other words, not Bush, Kasich, Paul, Santorum or Pataki) to speak up.

Who will be a grown up?

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:19:06pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sean Davis @seanmdav
Ok, so it is for real. Which is really, really depressing and horrifying on a number of levels.
4:48 PM - 7 Dec 2015

ya think so, Sean???

Well, hopefully this is a small indication that some of the RWNJs may have a little bit of brain material left for some reasonableness to creep in.

But, I am not holding out hope it is catching. I guess we will know when the next poll comes out compiled after today.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:19:18pm

Trump’s poll numbers will soar after this grotesquely bigoted statement; this is what the GOP voting base wants. Anybody who thinks otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

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EPR-radar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:19:22pm

re: #59 Testy Toad T

I can’t believe I’m bothering to think about this, but I wonder who Trump would pick as a running mate, and in turn how fast he’d get the promotion after Congress impeached the shit out of The Donald.

Why do you think it possible for Congress to impeach Trump? GOP party loyalty will easily prevent that, even if Trump blunders his way into world war III.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:19:37pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy crap, actual factual props to a guy I don’t often praise.

I know it’s easy to throw down when you have zero chance of winning anything, but credit where due. That is unequivocal and straightforward.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:20:27pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:20:57pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey Graham ✔ @LindseyGrahamSC

Every candidate for president needs to do the right thing & condemn @Realdonaldtrump’s statement.

5:13 PM - 7 Dec 2015

Good luck with that Lindsey. And oh, are you ready to take credit for your part in helping Trump and your party get to this point? It is on all of you.

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Kryptik  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:21:05pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Trump’s poll numbers will soar after this grotesquely bigoted statement; this is what the GOP voting base wants. Anybody who thinks otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

And most of the GOPers exercising caution will probably jump right on board in a couple days if the base’s reaction is as favorable as you say. Save tweets, folks. They may have no shame, but at least the hypocrisy might convince a few other people.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:21:11pm
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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:21:22pm

re: #75 EPR-radar

Why do you think it possible for Congress to impeach Trump? GOP party loyalty will easily prevent that, even if Trump blunders his way into world war III.

If Congress liked Trump, more than zero of them would have endorsed him.

As far as I can tell from 538, zero members of either house of Congress have endorsed him.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:21:24pm
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Jenner7  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:21:42pm
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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:22:13pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Trump’s poll numbers will soar after this grotesquely bigoted statement; this is what the GOP voting base wants. Anybody who thinks otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

I’m not sure that’s true. His supporters will probably grow ever more fervent, but I’m not sure he’ll pick up anybody he hadn’t picked up already.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:22:28pm

re: #61 Kragar

When people ask “How did Germany let a man like Hitler rise to power” just look at the Trump campaign.

indeed, the whole approach is the same. exactly the same:

“the bad things are not your fault, my followers. don’t let others tell you that you are the ones who have made mistakes!! this is a lie!!

i know who is at fault, and i will tell you - ‘them’! when all of ‘them’ are eliminated from our country, all will be well and we will be great again!”

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Brian J.  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:22:34pm

re: #70 KGxvi

I’ve been playing around with the new 538 model where you can slide turnout and vote preferences to see the result in the presidential election. Assuming turnout and margins stayed the same for African Americans, Latinos, and Asian voters, the GOP would have to pick up 5-7% among either college educated white voters or non-college educated white voters (again assuming turn out remained the same) - they’re already at 56% of college educated whites and 62% of non-college educated whites. That seems like a very difficult way to go about winning a national election.

To put this in perspective, I’ve played with the Swing-O-Matic as well. If you keep black turnout where it was in 2012, halve the GOP support from Hispanics while increasing their turnout a few points, and reduce their Asian/ other support by a quarter (I think these are all reasonable guesses for 2016), then the Republicans can increase their white share of the vote by 5 percentage points and still lose.

Whites voted 59% GOP, 39% Dem, 2% other at the last election, so this new formula would give a white vote of 64% GOP, 34% Dem, 2% other.

You know who won 34% of the white vote? Walter Mondale in 1984.

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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:23:02pm

re: #76 Testy Toad T

Holy crap, actual factual props to a guy I don’t often praise.

I know it’s easy to throw down when you have zero chance of winning anything, but credit where due. That is unequivocal and straightforward.

Only because it would interfere with his idea of how to conduct a war against Islam. Note who he cares about getting harmed. < spit > He’s no better than The Leader Trump.

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nines09  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:23:06pm

He’s Benito in a suit.

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Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:23:50pm

re: #82 jaunte

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b.d.  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:23:57pm

The bagger wingnuts are screaming and crying about the fantasy of Obama taking away constitutional rights but cheer on Trump’s plan to do it?

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:24:02pm

I’d feel a lot safer if we could gather up all of the Trump supporters and ship them out of this country.

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EPR-radar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:24:04pm

re: #81 Testy Toad T

If Congress liked Trump, more than zero of them would have endorsed him.

As far as I can tell from 538, zero members of either house of Congress have endorsed him.

I think all the Republican Senators and Representatives will fall in line, if Trump ends up being the GOP nominee. It’s what they do.

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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:24:17pm

Meh.

Fail.

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nines09  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:24:56pm

re: #90 b.d.

The bagger wingnuts are screaming and crying about the fantasy of Obama taking away constitutional rights but cheer on Trump’s plan to do it?

Yes. Exactly. But it’s not their rights. It’s those other people.

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b.d.  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:25:23pm
Emperor Trump
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:25:24pm
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William Lewis  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:25:31pm

re: #88 nines09

He’s Benito in a suit.

That’s where he was. Now he’s moving from Duce to Fuhrer with his decision to use Moslems this way.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:25:45pm

re: #92 EPR-radar

I think all the Republican Senators and Representatives will fall in line, if Trump ends up being the GOP nominee. It’s what they do.

Of all the things the Season of Trump has taught us, the biggest might be that you can pretty much throw out precedent.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:26:03pm

re: #93 bratwurst

“Unfortunately I think Donald Trump’s over reaction is as dangerous as Obama’s under reaction,” says Fiorina on Trump’s Muslim statement.

“Bothsiderism” taken to an insane low.

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wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:26:52pm
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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:27:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:27:26pm
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nines09  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:27:55pm

re: #97 William Lewis

That’s where he was. Now he’s moving from Duce to Fuhrer with his decision to use Moslems this way.

He was ready to round up the Mexicans…Now’s he’s ready to lock out Muslims. Who’s next?

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:28:05pm

re: #93 bratwurst

Beyond pathetic. And now watch as our national media describes this statement as “controversial.” You know, the same language they use to describe Planned Parenthood, universal health care, Anything Obama Does, etc.

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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:28:08pm

re: #99 jaunte

“Bothsiderism” taken to an insane low.

Exactly. Christie got closer to the mark, but we are still waiting for the first legitimate GOP presidential candidate to say “I condemn this unequivocally”.

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:28:17pm

re: #83 Jenner7

Matt Katz ✔ @mattkatz00

On Trump’s Muslim ban, @ChrisChristie: “This is kind of thing people say when they have no experience & no idea what they’re talking about.”

4:52 PM - 7 Dec 2015

So what if you think that way and don’t actually say it Chris? And does it take ‘experience’ to hide the fact you feel that way but only get it out in high pitched whistles to the dogs?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:28:52pm
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De Kolta Chair  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:29:07pm
In 1961, Elvis “The Pelvis” Presley, who had recently finished a two-year stint in the U.S. Army, performed at a USS Arizona memorial concert that raised over $50,000—more than 10 percent of the memorial’s final cost.
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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:29:08pm
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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:29:44pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jeb! is not a legitimate candidate at this point, but STILL short of saying he unequivocally condemns this.

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nines09  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:29:46pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are to your base Jeb! Look around. There is no GOP. It’s a fucking cult.

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Tigger2  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:30:29pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:31:21pm

David Brody, CBN News Chief Political Correspondent:

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EPR-radar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:31:28pm

re: #97 William Lewis

That’s where he was. Now he’s moving from Duce to Fuhrer with his decision to use Moslems this way.

Agreed. I have said for some time that one of the essential conditions for the transformation of the GOP from a proto-fascist party to a fully fascist party is acceptance of scapegoating as a solution for political issues.

Right now we’re seeing if scapegoating of Muslims will be accepted in this way by the GOP.

This is a ‘Profiles in Courage’ moment for every senior GOP leader and elected official. They can either accept this dangerous nonsense or reject it. There is no middle ground here.

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Kryptik  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:32:27pm

re: #113 jaunte

David Brody, CBN News Chief Political Correspondent:

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“Bravery” is the exact last word I’d be using there, Mr. Brody.

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:32:35pm

re: #97 William Lewis

That’s where he was. Now he’s moving from Duce to Fuhrer with his decision to use Moslems this way.

Yep. Going full in now.

And he can now call on all the little Brown Pants like Chucky C Johnson to help out with the Trump Youth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:32:58pm

And he just now tweeted the actual statement.

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makeitstop  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:33:33pm

Hey, GOP - guess what?

You. Built. This. And now they’ve got nowhere to turn.

If they tell Trump he’s not welcome, he’ll run third-party and leave the GOP in ruins.

If they go the expedient and venal route (my money’s on this option), they’ll be branded as the first US political party to embrace Fascism.

Y’all made your bed. Now…do you lie down with the fascist dog and wake up with fascist fleas?

Of course you will. Because winning is fucking everything. Idiots.

119
jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:33:42pm

Christianists supporting Trump’s bigotry, all week on The 700 Club.

120
ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:34:15pm

re: #103 nines09

He was ready to round up the Mexicans…Now’s he’s ready to lock out Muslims. Who’s next?

Liberals.

121
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:34:32pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

Vague.

122
Jenner7  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:34:52pm
123
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:35:35pm

re: #113 jaunte

David Brody, CBN News Chief Political Correspondent:

Well, yeah, it’s almost like some in the RWNJ are already forgetting their anti-Syrian refugee defiance. What do they think that was about?

124
petesh  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:35:57pm

Gee, I hope Indonesia and Pakistan and Bangladesh and India and Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and all other majority-Muslim countries immediately block all US citizens from entering unless they sign a statement saying they repudiate any sentiments such as those Mr T is pushing. You betcha that includes oil executives and bankers.

Pre-emptive note: The First Amendment does not apply abroad.

125
Teukka  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:35:59pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

Liberals.

Some “acceptable” group to pile up on. Could be “libs”, could be some other group.

126
BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:36:02pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

That was a very important policy statement?

We. Are. Fucked.

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wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:36:47pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

Liberals.

Women.

Trump has described the evolution of his position on abortion; although he formerly took several pro-choice positions, he now describes himself as pro-life[15] and would ban late-term abortions except in cases of rape, incest, or health.[15] He is in favor of cutting federal funding for Planned Parenthood.[157]

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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:37:20pm
129
jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:38:27pm
130
ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:38:42pm

re: #113 jaunte

David Brody, CBN News Chief Political Correspondent:

David Brody @TheBrodyFile

Here is the truth whether you like it or not:@realDonaldTrump is only candidate to have the bravery to put out that statement on Muslims

5:27 PM - 7 Dec 2015

WTF? Jesbus…is this country even going to make it to the next election before shit just hits the fan and everyone takes to the streets looking for their enemies?

This is the nuttiest I have ever seen this country. We are so close to losing it.

131
lawhawk  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:39:04pm

And I guess Rubio’s now got his answer about anti-Muslim sentiment.

This is the GOP. A bunch of cowards - both in dealing with racists and bigots within their own party, and cowering in fear over what is truly a threat to the nation.

132
D_Red  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:39:04pm

We don’t need any silly laws or prophylactic measures-when a bunch of unwelcome people are inserted into a country it has a way of shutting that whole thing down naturally

133
Jack Burton  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:39:23pm

re: #118 makeitstop

Hey, GOP - guess what?

You. Built. This. And now they’ve got nowhere to turn.

If they tell Trump he’s not welcome, he’ll run third-party and leave the GOP in ruins.

If they go the expedient and venal route (my money’s on this option), they’ll be branded as the first US political party to embrace Fascism.

Y’all made your bed. Now…do you lie down with the fascist dog and wake up with fascist fleas?

Of course you will. Because winning is fucking everything. Idiots.

Islamophobia is ubiquitous in the GOP and beyond among the US. Even the most liberal (relatively) Republicans I know are mostly OK with shit like this and don’t see how this is at all fascist or Hitlerian, because “All Muslims are evil terrorists who hate freedom and spend every day planning on killing us all. FUCK THOSE GUYS! PUT EM ON AN ISLAND!”

I see this shit every day on social media. Right leaning people who still pull the “I’m a social liberal but fiscal conservative” crap like even I used to, and don’t hate gays to the point of being almost LGBT activists, will gobble up Islam-hate hook line and sinker.

134
UrbanAchiever  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:39:25pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

In all seriousness, probably African Americans since they are the other group least likely to vote for him and he’s already been dabbling in Klanish rhetoric.

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:40:27pm

re: #114 EPR-radar

Agreed. I have said for some time that one of the essential conditions for the transformation of the GOP from a proto-fascist party to a fully fascist party is acceptance of scapegoating as a solution for political issues.

Right now we’re seeing if scapegoating of Muslims will be accepted in this way by the GOP.

This is a ‘Profiles in Courage’ moment for every senior GOP leader and elected official. They can either accept this dangerous nonsense or reject it. There is no middle ground here.

In other words we get to find out who the real pussies are.

136
UrbanAchiever  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:40:55pm

re: #135 ObserverArt

All of them, Katie.

137
Kryptik  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:41:04pm

re: #134 UrbanAchiever

In all seriousness, probably African Americans since they are the other group least likely to vote for him and he’s already been dabbling in Klanish rhetoric.

This presumes that the right wing hasn’t already been in an unspoken cold war against blacks for decades at this rate.

138
De Kolta Chair  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:41:14pm
139
Lidane  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:41:52pm
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UrbanAchiever  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:42:20pm

re: #137 Kryptik

Well, you can guarantee with Trump it will no longer be “unspoken.”

141
EPR-radar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:42:39pm

re: #135 ObserverArt

In other words we get to find out who the real pussies are.

Indeed. I will be very surprised if any credible non-Trump candidates (i.e., Rubio, Cruz, Carson) unequivocally denounce this garbage.

They all know that this is the GOP base, and these are the votes they are seeking.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:43:26pm

and 51% of those polled, “agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah.” Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won’t convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.

im sorry is the claim here that 51% of americans agree that muslims should be allowed to murder anyone who won’t convert to islam?

143
De Kolta Chair  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:43:47pm

What, me jealous? Darn right I am!

144
unproven innocence  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:44:20pm

re: #108 De Kolta Chair

[Embedded content]

Elvis at The Mosque Theatre, 1956:
elvispresleymusic.com.au

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bratwurst  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:44:27pm

Fail.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:44:41pm

re: #118 makeitstop

Hey, GOP - guess what?

You. Built. This. And now they’ve got nowhere to turn.

If they tell Trump he’s not welcome, he’ll run third-party and leave the GOP in ruins.

If they go the expedient and venal route (my money’s on this option), they’ll be branded as the first US political party to embrace Fascism.

Y’all made your bed. Now…do you lie down with the fascist dog and wake up with fascist fleas?

Of course you will. Because winning is fucking everything. Idiots.

i think it all comes down to whether there are or aren’t enough fascist/racists in the united states to elect trump president, and i think we are about to find that out

147
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:44:48pm

what could possibly go wrong with this???

148
BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:45:12pm

re: #64 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I truly don’t understand why O’Malley can’t get any traction.

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jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:45:14pm

re: #145 bratwurst

150
Lidane  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:45:26pm
151
Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:45:29pm

re: #141 EPR-radar

Indeed. I will be very surprised if any credible non-Trump candidates (i.e., Rubio, Cruz, Carson) unequivocally denounce this garbage.

They all know that this is the GOP base, and these are the votes they are seeking.

To be honest, I think it’s absolutely terrible political strategy, amusingly copied from decades of feckless Democrats. If somebody wants to vote for a guy espousing Trumpian ideas, they have no reason to vote for half-Trump. They’ll just go fucking vote for Trump.

The fact that the combined non-Trump primary vote share is something like 75% sure ought to indicate to an intelligent campaigner that it’s at least worth a shot to call him Hitler and fucking bury the dude. Meekly MBFing in the wake of every Trump comment is pointless and leads to ¿Jeb?.

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ObserverArt  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:45:48pm

re: #125 Teukka

Some “acceptable” group to pile up on. Could be “libs”, could be some other group.

re: #127 wrenchwench

Women.

re: #134 UrbanAchiever

In all seriousness, probably African Americans since they are the other group least likely to vote for him and he’s already been dabbling in Klanish rhetoric.

Liberals all.

If you think like Trump and The Gang.

153
De Kolta Chair  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:46:10pm

re: #144 unproven innocence

Elvis at The Mosque Theatre, 1956:
elvispresleymusic.com.au

Love those photos!

154
lawhawk  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:46:57pm
155
Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:47:25pm
156
Tigger2  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:47:46pm

LOL A video made in Portland Oregon this morning.

Can’t get it to embed.

157
No Country For Old Haters  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:48:03pm

re: #131 lawhawk

158
jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:48:05pm

First, the ritual blaming and casting out of a designated minority.
Second, a public appearance filled with patriotic banners and military pomp.

159
De Kolta Chair  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:48:43pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

what could possibly go wrong with this???

Is that Snavely or Snidely?

160
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:49:15pm
161
Kryptik  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:50:24pm

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Disappointing but far, far, far from surprising.

162
BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:50:51pm

re: #68 Kragar

[Embedded content]

We Didn’t Know

We didn’t know said the Burgomeister,
About the camps on the edge of town.
It was Hitler and his crew,
That tore the German nation down.
We saw the cattle cars it’s true,
And maybe they carried a Jew or two.
They woke us up as they rattled through,
But what did you expect me to do?

[Cho:]
We didn’t know at all,
We didn’t see a thing.
You can’t hold us to blame,
What could we do?
It was a terrible shame,
But we can’t bear the blame.
Oh no, not us, we didn’t know.

163
jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:50:55pm

Some of the audience are still confused about Trump’s proposal.

164
UrbanAchiever  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:50:59pm

re: #154 lawhawk

At this point I think it is naive to blame this on “political cynicism” as the media seems wont to do. All politicians make cynical calculations. This is now outright hatred being expressed by a politician on a scale we haven’t seen since McCarthy, if that.

165
Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:51:31pm

Sorry for the duplicates.

166
BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:52:17pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

You KNOW I don’t say this often (if ever) but good job, Lindsey Graham.

167
Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:53:14pm

re: #159 De Kolta Chair

Is that Snavely or Snidley?

Embedded Image

Someone say Snavely?

168
Kryptik  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:53:25pm

re: #164 UrbanAchiever

At this point I think it is naive to blame this on “political cynicism” as the media seems wont to do. All politicians make cynical calculations. This is now outright hatred being expressed by a politician on a scale we haven’t seen since McCarthy, if that.

If the media manages to pull its usual false balance fairy dance on this, there will be no hope.

169
Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:54:14pm
170
jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:54:55pm
171
jaunte  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:55:20pm
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BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:56:14pm

re: #83 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

That’s about as “stern” as Christie’s initial response to the “Muslims Dancing in the street” bullshit. Doesn’t the big man have some teachers he can berate? Or a bridge to close?

173
Testy Toad T  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:56:18pm

re: #171 jaunte

It’s usually a bad sign when you hear a policy proposal from a candidate and say to yourself, “wow, self, that just sounds absolutely fabulously illegal.”

174
Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:56:51pm

re: #163 jaunte

Some of the audience are still confused about Trump’s proposal.

Response by Trump lovers will be divided into “No, he didn’t say we should exclude an entire religion from entering the United States” and “Fuck Yeah!!!”

175
wrenchwench  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:56:54pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

Liberals all.

If you think like Trump and The Gang.

Even RWNJs who don’t want to be pregnant will be in the back alleys.

176
Tigger2  Dec 7, 2015 • 2:57:47pm

Here’s that video I was trying to embed.

Facebook Post

177
UrbanAchiever  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:00:18pm

It’s time for the media to boycott his campaign events and his bigoted crowds. Report on his positions and press releases, fine. But we learn nothing from his “speeches.” We don’t need CNN and NBC to be his Leni Riefenstahl.

178
Kragar  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:01:41pm
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BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:04:48pm

re: #124 petesh

Gee, I hope Indonesia and Pakistan and Bangladesh and India and Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and all other majority-Muslim countries immediately block all US citizens from entering unless they sign a statement saying they repudiate any sentiments such as those Mr T is pushing. You betcha that includes oil executives and bankers.

Pre-emptive note: The First Amendment does not apply abroad.

There’s this:

Britons launch campaign to ban Donald Trump from the UK over hate speech violations

rawstory.com

180
Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:09:02pm

re: #176 Tigger2

There’s no fish on that road!

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BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:10:35pm

re: #145 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

Fail.

How the fuck is that a “response” to anything? It’s basically his stump speech.

Thanks, Jake Tapper, super newsman, for holding everyone’s feet to the fire.
/// (dripping/foaming/boiling)

182
BeachDem  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:17:53pm

re: #177 UrbanAchiever

It’s time for the media to boycott his campaign events and his bigoted crowds. Report on his positions and press releases, fine. But we learn nothing from his “speeches.” We don’t need CNN and NBC to be his Leni Riefenstahl.

I agree 100%. And enough with his telephone chats instead of actually appearing on interview shows. (I believe he’s like a regular on Morning Joke—all from what I’ve heard as I can’t bear to watch Squint and the Meat Puppet myself.)

183
Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:21:51pm

WTF-Politico said the Trump press release mentioned a Pew study.

No wonder Charles Pierce calls Politico The Tiger Beat of the Potomac. That’s not right-it’s not even wrong, FFS…..

184
Romantic Heretic  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:26:38pm

re: #158 jaunte

If aircraft carriers could retch I’m betting the Yorktown would do it the second Trump set foot on it.

185
Romantic Heretic  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:30:05pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea Toujours

As my favourite writer notes democracy is a distinctly unnatural thing constantly at odds with the natural sources of power (economic, military and political) which can be maintained only by the toughness of the citizenry.

186
Romantic Heretic  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:30:27pm

re: #167 Blind Frog Belly White

I miss Walt Kelly.

187
Romantic Heretic  Dec 7, 2015 • 3:33:06pm

re: #170 jaunte

I wonder how many US officers would react to such an order in the same manner as Erich von Manstein?

“He is an effective soldier so I refuse.”

Hopefully most of them.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 7, 2015 • 4:44:10pm

re: #144 unproven innocence

Elvis at The Mosque Theatre, 1956:
elvispresleymusic.com.au

Pittsburgh had the Syria Mosque for years.

en.wikipedia.org

Saw George Thorogood there back in the 1980s.

189
unproven innocence  Dec 7, 2015 • 5:00:33pm

re: #188 Feline Fearless Leader

Pittsburgh had the Syria Mosque for years.

en.wikipedia.org

Saw George Thorogood there back in the 1980s.

Interesting: “the birthplace of network television.[5]”

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[deleted]  Dec 7, 2015 • 5:40:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 7, 2015 • 5:44:48pm
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sagehen  Dec 7, 2015 • 6:48:20pm

re: #190 Ifnifreeze

“I also wonder how the 3,409 Muslims serving in our active duty military feel about Trump’s statement.”

I live 40 miles from San B and I’ve turned a corner. I’ve started to believe in Trump. I never, ever would have said that before.

But I’ll admit the comment about the 3,409 active duty Muslims stumps me.

Did Dylan Roof make you think everybody who waves a confederate flag is just like that? What about the shootings at Virginia Tech and Sandy Hook, both of which had higher death tolls than SB and neither of which had anything to do with Muslims — did either of those inspire you to broad-brush views of everyone who looks vaguely similar, or everyone whose family belongs to the same Christian church the shooters did?

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CuriousLurker  Dec 7, 2015 • 7:19:54pm

re: #190 Ifnifreeze

So what? I live 20 minutes from New York City. On 9/11 I lived 5 minutes away.
GO FUCK YOURSELF.

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