Donald Trump’s Brilliant Plan to Ban Muslims Is Brilliant

As in, fully stupid
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Donald Trump went on MSNBC’s Morning joe today and explained his brilliant plan for preventing Muslims from entering the US, and I just can’t even.

During an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that lasted more than 30 minutes, co-host Willie Geist repeatedly asked Trump how such a ban would work, as religion does not appear on most major passports: Would airline representatives, customs agents or border guards ask a person’s religion?

“They would say: ‘Are you Muslim?’” Trump said.

“And if they said, ‘yes,’ they would not be allowed in the country?” Geist asked.

“That’s correct,” Trump said.

This election is giving me a pain behind my left eye.

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242 comments
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:35:57am

What happened to our Twitter embeds? I am getting the shakes.

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freetoken  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:36:04am

Must be brilliant as Trump is still the most popular candidate out there:

The good news for Donald Trump: He’s still leading among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, with 41 percent of the vote in the latest Morning Consult survey. Ben Carson’s collapse continues; he’s down to 12 percent in the latest poll, just ahead of Sen. Marco Rubio’s (R-Fla.) 10 percent. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) finishes fourth at 7 percent, with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) in fifth at 5 percent.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:36:33am

So far from recanting, The Donald is double-tripling down on the Muslim ban.

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Kryptik  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:36:46am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

What happened to our Twitter embeds? I am getting the shakes.

Something wonky with the API that Charles is trying to fix, I think?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:37:30am

re: #2 freetoken

Must be brilliant as Trump is still the most popular candidate out there:

So Rand Paul is surging then?

/

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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:37:54am
This election is giving me a pain behind my left eye.

You probably don’t want Dr. Carson to take a look at that.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:38:15am
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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:38:37am

So, while the GOP rank and file are all over Trump’s idea and are even suggesting even more unconstitutional actions, like internment, you’ve got other GOPers trying to turn Trump into some kind of liberal invention.

Sorry, but the GOP owns Trump. He’s one of you. Your voters - the base GOP - support Trump more than they do other candidates who happen to share similar views on most issues. That includes immigration, where Trump’s just the most boisterous and obnoxious of the candidates. Cruz would limit Muslim refugees. So too would Jeb. Religious tests.

The list goes on and on.

And you know the GOP is in trouble when Dick Cheney is the voice of reason (though to be fair, the Bush Administration went to great lengths to distinguish between terrorists who carry out attacks claiming to be Islamic, and the more than 1 billion Muslims out there). The current crop of GOPers is incapable of making that distinction, and we see it with their inane statements on refugees, as well as the fight against Daesh/ISIL/IS, which they would just rather bomb - ignoring who, where, and how.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:40:12am

All wee need to do is spread out a copy of the Koran on the floor that Muslims would have to walk over to enter America. Problem solved.

/

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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:40:19am

The Donald’s 100% complete Muslim ban now has exemptions, it seems, for US servicemembers abroad, foreign leaders, and maybe athletes or something. I’m not going to call that “moderating”, exactly, but I think this might be the first time he’s stepped back even a millimeter from some crazy-ass hairbrained insanity he’s spewed. It’s the exact opposite of his usual trajectory, which is to say something regular-grade crazy, then let it spiral into highly-enriched crazy in retellings over the next few days.

I wonder if that’s signal or if it’s noise.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:40:26am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

What happened to our Twitter embeds? I am getting the shakes.

Some kind of problem with Twitter’s API server - “request timed out.”

I think you can still embed tweets by getting the full embed code from Twitter and pasting that in, let’s see…

Yep. The problem is related to getting the embed code automatically. I sent a question to Ben Ward at Twitter about this.

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sagehen  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:40:59am

re: #8 lawhawk

(though to be fair, the Bush Administration went to great lengths to distinguish between terrorists who carry out attacks claiming to be Islamic, and the more than 1 billion Muslims out there people whose oil they want to drill, transport and refine).

FTFY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:41:13am

Obama aide: Trump’s comments disqualify him from presidency

An Obama administration spokesman on Tuesday ripped Donald Trump’s proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S., saying it disqualifies the GOP front-runner from serving as president.

In extended diatribe against Trump, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said that any Republican candidate who does not denounce Trump is also unqualified to serve as commander in chief.

“What Donald Trump said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president,” Earnest said, comparing the real estate mogul to a “carnival barker” while mocking his “fake hair.”

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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:41:31am

re: #7 Dr. Matt

Germany required nothing less than Great Depression to make Hitler’s craziness seem attractive. America needs… I dunno, some brown people or something.

How exceptional of us.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:41:37am

re: #8 lawhawk

And you know the GOP is in trouble when Dick Cheney is the voice of reason

Yeah, when Darth Cheney is the voice of sensibility, that’s how you know the GOP is in deep, deep shit. For heaven’s sake, their leading candidate is openly espousing fascism.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:41:43am

re: #4 Kryptik

Something wonky with the API that Charles is trying to fix, I think?

Doesn’t seem to be anything I can fix - Twitter’s server is timing out.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:43:06am

re: #10 Testy Toad T

The Donald’s 100% complete Muslim ban now has exemptions, it seems, for US servicemembers abroad, foreign leaders, and maybe athletes or something. I’m not going to call that “moderating”, exactly, but I think this might be the first time he’s stepped back even a millimeter from some crazy-ass hairbrained insanity he’s spewed. It’s the exact opposite of his usual trajectory, which is to say something regular-grade crazy, then let it spiral into highly-enriched crazy in retellings over the next few days.

I wonder if that’s signal or if it’s noise.

We just want need extra better moar Vetting!!!

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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:43:48am

BEE worked with full embed code.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:44:41am

re: #10 Testy Toad T

The Donald’s 100% complete Muslim ban now has exemptions, it seems, for US servicemembers abroad, foreign leaders, and maybe athletes or something. I’m not going to call that “moderating”, exactly, but I think this might be the first time he’s stepped back even a millimeter from some crazy-ass hairbrained insanity he’s spewed. It’s the exact opposite of his usual trajectory, which is to say something regular-grade crazy, then let it spiral into highly-enriched crazy in retellings over the next few days.

I wonder if that’s signal or if it’s noise.

But Donald? How do you know they won’t become radicalized once they come back into the US???

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mr.fusion  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:44:43am

re: #8 lawhawk

Sorry, but the GOP owns Trump. He’s one of you. Your voters - the base GOP - support Trump more than they do other candidates who happen to share similar views on most issues. That includes immigration, where Trump’s just the most boisterous and obnoxious of the candidates. Cruz would limit Muslim refugees. So too would Jeb. Religious tests.

This is exactly right. People are expecting Republicans to denounce Trumps stance here. Why? This is just a natural extension of Jeb!’s “Christian test for refugees” and the entire GOP’s stance on no more refugees. We’ve had years and years of Fox “National Security Experts” screaming at their rabid base that the only solution is to bomb every Muslim country completely off the map. And we expect the GOP to denounce Trump? Please

The GOP is getting exactly what they deserve here. This is what happens when you spend 7 years yelling that anyone who has ever served in any government capacity is a socialist. That anyone who has ever taken welfare is a freeloader. That any immigrant coming in has “calves the size of canteloupes” because of all of the drugs they’re dragging across. When you call anyone who doesn’t pass your insane purity test an enemy of the state and treasonous. This is what you get. This is your Trumpenstein GOP. Own it

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Jeff Selbst  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:45:05am

re: #7 Dr. Matt

You need to add “Wrote a book no one can read.”

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:45:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:45:20am
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Lidane  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:45:21am

That sound you hear is more RWNJs going ‘splodey:

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:45:40am

If you embed it works.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:47:04am

Not an outlier. Everywhere you look, GOPers are showing themselves willing to go along with Trump, or have said as bad or worse things.

From the so called moderate in Jeb to Huckabee. And beyond.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:47:50am

Such predictions have been fraught with danger, but I think we are finally seeing peak Trump. He has done a great service for the crypto-fascists though in making their real choice, Cruz, seem reasonable by comparison. Cruz’s current, paltry 7% is highly misleading since he will inherit essentially all of Trump’s supporters once the Donald fades.

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Jenner7  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:47:51am

Trump says there are allies that are sending money to ISIS, won’t name them because he has “a lot of relationships with people…”.

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Kryptik  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:48:14am

It’s still so goddamn depressing how many people I’m running across that are rushing to fall in love with this idea so goddamn fast. Including, again, the much vaunted ‘millennials’ who still seem to be turning out just as racist as previous generations, and maybe moreso.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:48:37am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I’m not bothered when people compare me to Hitler” I DUNNO MAYBE SHOULD BE SEEN AS A RED FLAG.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:49:20am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Such predictions have been fraught with danger, but I think we are finally seeing peak Trump. He has done a great service for the crypto-fascists though in making their real choice, Cruz, seem reasonable by comparison. Cruz’s current, paltry 7% is highly misleading since he will inherit essentially all of Trump’s supporters once the Donald fades.

And I don’t think we’re at peak Trump considering that the rest of the GOP - and more importantly - the base - are willing to go along with Trump, no matter how batcrap insane or unconstitutional his proposals are. Besides, other GOPers have already tread down that path (Jeb, Cruz, etc., on Muslim bans for refugees, etc.)

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Kryptik  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:49:37am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Such predictions have been fraught with danger, but I think we are finally seeing peak Trump. He has done a great service for the crypto-fascists though in making their real choice, Cruz, seem reasonable by comparison. Cruz’s current, paltry 7% is highly misleading since he will inherit essentially all of Trump’s supporters once the Donald fades.

This was said months ago. I believed it months ago. At this rate, ‘Peak Trump’ is going to be like ‘Peak Wingnut’: we keep thinking it’ll get there, but it never does.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:50:01am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Such predictions have been fraught with danger, but I think we are finally seeing peak Trump. He has done a great service for the crypto-fascists though in making their real choice, Cruz, seem reasonable by comparison. Cruz’s current, paltry 7% is highly misleading since he will inherit essentially all of Trump’s supporters once the Donald fades.

I don’t think Trump is going to fade. I think he’s gonna go for an independent run for the White House.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:50:21am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Such predictions have been fraught with danger, but I think we are finally seeing peak Trump. He has done a great service for the crypto-fascists though in making their real choice, Cruz, seem reasonable by comparison. Cruz’s current, paltry 7% is highly misleading since he will inherit essentially all of Trump’s supporters once the Donald fades.

There are also a lot of Trump supporters who will just take their ball and go home once Donald drops out. These are the people who hate Washington politics and love DT because everything he says and does is anathema to everything a politician is supposed to do (which includes paying at least some attention to the logical consequences behind the ideas you espouse and giving some thought to how they might actually be implemented)

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:50:27am

re: #28 Jenner7

Could be these:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:50:44am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus on Trump’s proposed Muslim ban: “I don’t agree.”

Leadership. Bold. Principled.

/

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:50:47am

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

I don’t think Trump is going to fade. I think he’s gonna go for an independent run for the White House.

Best thing that could happen.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:51:40am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“I don’t agree” is now condemnation? I must have learned the English language in a parallel universe.

And, speaking of art imitating life imitating art:

Idiocracy (the movie): Brawndo’s got what plants crave. It’s got electrolytes.

Idiocracy (a witness in Ted Cruz’s upcoming climate hearing)

At his request, the money was sent to the CO2 Coalition, a climate change-denying organization where he is also a board member. The coalition’s slogan is “Carbon dioxide, a nutrient vital for life.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:53:36am

Testing:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:53:54am

re: #38 BeachDem

“I don’t agree” is now condemnation? I must have learned the English language in a parallel universe.

And, speaking of art imitating life imitating art:

Idiocracy (the movie): Brawndo’s got what plants crave. It’s got electrolytes.

Idiocracy (a witness in Ted Cruz’s upcoming climate hearing)

At his request, the money was sent to the CO2 Coalition, a climate change-denying organization where he is also a board member. The coalition’s slogan is “Carbon dioxide, a nutrient vital for life.”

Water’s vital for life, too. Here, let me put you in a tank of it.

Dirt’s also vital for life. Let me cover you with 6 feet of it.

////

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:54:04am

re: #38 BeachDem

“I don’t agree” is now condemnation? I must have learned the English language in a parallel universe.

It is the Trump Density field pulling on the meaning of words and stretching them in to unrecognizability.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:54:51am
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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:55:22am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Such predictions have been fraught with danger, but I think we are finally seeing peak Trump. He has done a great service for the crypto-fascists though in making their real choice, Cruz, seem reasonable by comparison. Cruz’s current, paltry 7% is highly misleading since he will inherit essentially all of Trump’s supporters once the Donald fades.

Is that supposed to be a positive? Cruz is just as batshit, with an extra dose of religious fervor.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:57:50am

re: #43 BeachDem

Is that supposed to be a positive? Cruz is just as batshit, with an extra dose of religious fervor.

Cruz is conniving and heartless, not actively evil.

…Yay?

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:57:51am

re: #43 BeachDem

Is that supposed to be a positive? Cruz is just as batshit, with an extra dose of religious fervor.

No, more in the nature of a warning.

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Emoprog Refugee  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:57:55am

Aside from the fascist, racist, xenophobic, idiotic policy of banning people of a particular religion from entering the country, was it ever brought up that Trump’s enforcement plan doesn’t account for the possibility that actual Muslim terrorists hell-bent on committing acts of terrorism for religious extremist reasons in this country might, maybe, you know, LIE?
I mean, aside from the actual 9/11 terrorists who lived in this country and pretended to be something other than what they were for years, I guess such a thing is unprecedented, so I see how The Donald might not have thought of that (EYE-ROLLY HEADDESK!!!).
Yes, I know, he has no actual interest in combating either terrorism or the gun violence that plagues this country, and his “plan” is not just misguided thought-excrement to deal with either issue. That’s not the point of the crap exiting his mouth. His point is to foment hatred and make a scapegoat of every Muslim.

Gods, I am so sick of this bombastic, stupid asshat, and horrified by his increasing popularity, and horrified by the various media and GOP for continuing to give him a megaphone.

And once again, we’ve started with a full year of mass shootings and ended with: but look over there!! Squirrels!!! Mooslims!!!! Can we please, please get back to the actual problem????

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Lidane  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:58:43am
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Mike Lamb  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:58:52am

re: #31 lawhawk

And I don’t think we’re at peak Trump considering that the rest of the GOP - and more importantly - the base - are willing to go along with Trump, no matter how batcrap insane or unconstitutional his proposals are. Besides, other GOPers have already tread down that path (Jeb, Cruz, etc., on Muslim bans for refugees, etc.)

And you have mainstream voices like Erickson suggesting that Trump is making astute political decisions.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:59:18am

re: #43 BeachDem

Is that supposed to be a positive? Cruz is just as batshit, with an extra dose of religious fervor.

Cruz is the choice of all the wingnuts who think Donald Trump is “too liberal” and fails the purity test.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:59:30am

re: #44 Testy Toad T

Cruz is conniving and heartless, not actively evil.

…Yay?

Citation to support that statement?
//

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 10:59:46am

re: #44 Testy Toad T

Cruz is conniving and heartless, not actively evil.

…Yay?

Disagree. Actively evil. He knew or had reason to know that the government shutdown would cost more than it would save, and he went and forced it anyways. He then offered up to do it again.

His policies and practices are actively evil.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:01:30am

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

Water’s vital for life, too. Here, let me put you in a tank of it.

Dirt’s also vital for life. Let me cover you with 6 feet of it.

////

CO2 is vital. Let me fill your room with it.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:01:49am

When white nationalists, Islamophobes, and neo Nazis embrace your positions, any rational person would know to back away. Trump? He’s reveling in it. And he’s got the voters right where he wants them - in his corner.

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Lidane  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:02:44am

It’s the messaging not the message!, paranoid nut edition:

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:04:37am

Note the specifics of the poll - 62% polled believe Trump when he said 1,000s of Muslims cheered.

Islamophobia is a central tenet of Trump’s popularity.
Nativism is a central tenet of Trump’s popularity.
Hate is central to Trump’s popularity.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:05:27am

re: #44 Testy Toad T

Cruz is conniving and heartless, not actively evil.

…Yay?

I think he is worse than Trump in that he has the political savvy to actually institute the crazed RW program. He is much closer to the theocrats, for example. Trump is a sinister clown by comparison, Goering to Cruz’s Hitler.

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Kryptik  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:05:56am

re: #55 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Note the specifics of the poll - 62% polled believe Trump when he said 1,000s of Muslims cheered.

Islamophobia is a central tenet of Trump’s popularity.
Nativism is a central tenet of Trump’s popularity.
Hate is central to Trump’s popularity.

Willful idiocy is central to Trump’s popularity.

Then again, Willful idiocy is also central to GOP popularity.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:06:23am

What bothers me most, apart from the bigotry, is the sheer stupidity and simplemindedness of everything Trump proposes, and how eagerly his supporters eat it up, with absolutely no thought to any unintended consequences.

The other point is that this is a complete destruction of the idea of American Exceptionalism - other countries undergo far worse terror attacks but don’t go to these suggested extremes. The shooting in SB, bad as it was, is only the 5th deadliest mass shooting in my adult lifetime, and yet we’re pissing our pants in fear and talking about excluding an entire religion from America.

I guess we’re exceptional, alright. Exceptionally easy to manipulate. Exceptionally easy to frighten. Exceptionally willing to give up all we claim to hold dear when somebody yells ‘Boo!’

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:06:39am

re: #55 lawhawk

If Trump goes indie, that’s about 20 to 25% of the overall electorate. Of course, it’s not enough to win the White House.

But it is enough to ensure that the Democratic Party could nominate a five day-old stale doughnut for POTUS and win in an electoral landslide.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:07:01am

See now, Ted Cruz wouldn’t implement Trump’s proposal on a NATIONAL level but thinks each state should decide for itself whether to admit Muslims==>

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:07:14am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:08:08am

Twitter embeds should be working again now. Test:

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:08:36am

Yep. You can go back to simply pasting in the URL of the tweet.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:08:42am

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

If Trump goes indie, that’s about 20 to 25% of the overall electorate. Of course, it’s not enough to win the White House.

So then he should be at 50% or 60% of the primary, right?

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nines09  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:08:51am

Trump is the natural evolution of GOP policies. For being the supposed party of responsibility, they sure don’t want any responsibility in creating this pile of rubbish. They built the room in which a voice like Trumps can be heard. All yours, GOP.

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Jenner7  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:09:23am

Watching CNN….and now I have a headache.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:09:37am

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Yep. You can go back to simply pasting in the URL of the tweet.

What was the issue?

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:10:10am

Trump gets pushback from London Police:

London’s Metropolitan police have said Donald Trump “could not be more wrong” when he claimed parts of London were so radicalised that officers feared for their lives.

“We would not normally dignify such comments with a response, however, on this occasion we think it’s important to state to Londoners that Mr Trump could not be more wrong.”
The statement continued: “Any candidate for the presidential election in the United States of America is welcome to receive a briefing from the Met police on the reality of policing London.”
theguardian.com

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Lidane  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:10:21am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:10:38am

re: #60 The Vicious Babushka

See now, Ted Cruz wouldn’t implement Trump’s proposal on a NATIONAL level but thinks each state should decide for itself whether to admit Muslims==>

Build a wall around every state!!!!!

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:10:45am

re: #55 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Note the specifics of the poll - 62% polled believe Trump when he said 1,000s of Muslims cheered.

Islamophobia is a central tenet of Trump’s popularity.
Nativism is a central tenet of Trump’s popularity.
Hate is central to Trump’s popularity.

Therefore it won’t be only Muslims, we’re just the beginning.

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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:10:57am
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Jenner7  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:11:45am

Former Chief of Staff, RNC blaming Obama for not leading as the cause of Donald Trump. He’s proud of Reince for his condemnation of Trump.

GAH!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:12:30am
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sffilk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:12:44am

So he wouldn’t let that young lady, first name (I think it’s spelled) Malallah, into the US because she’s Muslim? Charming!

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:13:04am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

Tea party tag team.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:13:22am

re: #67 GlutenFreeJesus

What was the issue?

One of our Twitter access tokens somehow became invalid, even though it’s not supposed to happen unless you call a certain API method. Just renewed the token and it’s all good now.

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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:13:37am

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

“EndTheIran” sounds like a policy proposal from Ms. Teen South Carolina.

And what’s deal.com?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:14:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:14:52am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:15:16am

re: #75 sffilk

So he wouldn’t let that young lady, first name (I think it’s spelled) Malallah, into the US because she’s Muslim? Charming!

I’m old enough to remember when the GOP, under W Bush, wanted to spread democracy and freedom around the world.

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Franklin  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:15:51am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know who else said he’s confident in his actions, even if others don’t agree?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:16:53am

re: #64 Testy Toad T

So then he should be at 50% or 60% of the primary, right?

I could see that. I admit, I don’t know his ground game is in regard to the primary states (TBH, I think Cruz may have much better organization on that point), but he’s appealing to pissed off, resentful, government-hating white nationalists and xenophobes.

And that’s now a pretty decent-sized chunk of the GOP base.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:17:52am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

NH Union Leader:
Cruz bombs: Tough talk to cover up weak record

“…Cruz, who never lacks the courage to tell people exactly what they want to hear, tends to confuse volume with strength. He uses the term “carpet bombing” like liberals say “assault weapons,” with no apparent knowledge of what it actually means.

This newfound zeal for the fight in Syria is a shift for Cruz. He spent the past year positioning himself as a fallback option for supporters of Sen. Rand Paul, arguing repeatedly “We certainly don’t have a dog in the fight” in Syria. Cruz has been transparently pandering to Donald Trump, hoping to win his supporters if and when the Trump bubble finally bursts.”
unionleader.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:18:40am

Note the hereditary nature of the top job at Liberty. Rather reminds me of the Kim dynasty in North Korea.
The proposal to arm the students is interesting in light of the incident two years ago in which a Liberty honor student (from Lubbock) was shot dead by a security guard after the student attacked the officer with a hammer.

Facebook Post

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:19:11am

re: #81 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’m old enough to remember when the GOP, under W Bush, wanted to spread democracy and freedom around the world.

Rather than restricting it here.

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Alephnaught  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:19:25am

re: #22 lawhawk

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“uncorked animals”?!?!?!?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:19:27am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because you’re a wussy Ted.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:19:31am

re: #84 jaunte

NH Union Leader:
Cruz bombs: Tough talk to cover up weak record

Hate the Union Leader—a notorious wingnut rag—but like this

Cruz, who never lacks the courage to tell people exactly what they want to hear

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:20:14am

Repeat: The problem isn’t just Trump. It’s the GOP.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:20:37am
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Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:20:40am

re: #79 Dr. Matt

Donald Trump goes there in an interview on Fox ‘news’: “I have Muslim friends, Greta, and they’re wonderful people”

Tomorrow he’ll be claiming that some of his best friends are Muslims.

What would the GOP do if Fox News wasn’t there to polish their balls?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:20:55am

re: #87 Alephnaught

“uncorked animals”?!?!?!?

It reminds me of a grade school joke about trying to fatten a pig, which I won’t share.

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Kryptik  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:21:23am

re: #91 Dr. Matt

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This man is all of us at this point.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:21:41am

re: #84 jaunte

This newfound zeal for the fight in Syria is a shift for Cruz.

I don’t think Cruz has any zeal, new or otherwise, for the fight in Syria. He just wants to criticize Obama for not doing enough of something.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:21:59am
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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:24:10am

re: #96 jaunte

I’m honestly surprised it’s only 70%.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:24:49am

UPDATE:
Added this one - for good measure (and it’s Hoft no less):

Again, the problem isn’t Trump. It’s the GOP.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:25:10am

I find reading the news very depressing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:25:56am

re: #96 jaunte

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:25:59am

re: #99 I Would Prefer Not To

I find reading the news very depressing.

I find reading the news making me think of what else I can do to get more Democrats elected.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:26:07am

re: #90 lawhawk

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Repeat: The problem isn’t just Trump. It’s the GOP.

Rand Paul cares deeply about liberty. //

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:26:32am

re: #98 lawhawk

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Again, the problem isn’t Trump. It’s the GOP.

Exactly. He’s a symptom not the illness.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:26:39am

lolwut?

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:27:15am

re: #96 jaunte

Rorschach - Do it

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:27:38am

re: #104 Charles Johnson

lolwut?

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Last I saw John, no one has forced Christians to buy condoms or to officiate gay marriages but go ahead make this about your persecution complex you pathetic piece of fuck.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:29:18am

re: #94 Kryptik

This man is all of us at this point.

At this point, Trump will have to kick newborn puppies live on TV to take a hit in the GOP polling.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:29:30am

re: #104 Charles Johnson

lolwut?

John wants the ability to have sex rubber free. Some woman telling him he has to put one on violates his religious liberty. She’s just an incubator, damn it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:30:35am

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Left/Media pretend to care about religious liberty for Muslims. Christians will be forced to buy rubbers & participate in gay marriages.
— John Nolte

Just another day on the sauce for John Nolte.

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Jenner7  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:30:57am

Hahahahahaha!

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:31:01am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Last I saw John, no one has forced Christians to buy condoms or to officiate gay marriages but go ahead make this about your persecution complex you pathetic piece of fuck.

Yeah, ‘cause Christians are the ones actually being persecuted here, not Muslims.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:31:27am

re: #108 Belafon

John wants the ability to have sex rubber free. Some woman telling him he has to put one on violates his religious liberty. She’s just an incubator, damn it.

I think he’s talking about birth control being covered under the ACA.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:32:35am

re: #110 Jenner7

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Hahahahahaha!

The very same reason I keep wondering when Pamela Geller will realize oxygen is halal.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:32:38am

re: #73 Jenner7

Former Chief of Staff, RNC blaming Obama for not leading as the cause of Donald Trump. He’s proud of Reince for his condemnation of Trump.

GAH!

When, exactly, did Reince condemn Trump? I heard he “strongly disagrees” (just checked—he didn’t even STRONGLY disagree. How the fuck is that a CONDEMNATION?

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:32:50am
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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:34:04am

re: #112 The Vicious Babushka

I think he’s talking about birth control being covered under the ACA.

I could see Nolte being against both.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:34:10am

I totally expect Obama to be blamed for Donald Trump’s bigotry somehow if he hasn’t already.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:35:30am

re: #115 Dr. Matt

More context here.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:36:24am

re: #84 jaunte

NH Union Leader:
Cruz bombs: Tough talk to cover up weak record

And…they endorsed Chris Christie/

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Jenner7  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:36:44am

Congress will miss its Friday deadline for government spending bill

WASHINGTON — Congress will blow past the Friday deadline to pass a bill to pay for running the federal government and will prepare a short-term package to keep the government open while negotiators work on a longer-term bill, Republican leaders said Tuesday.

Funding for federal agencies runs out Dec. 11, and lawmakers have been negotiating a bill to approve paying for government operations through 2016. Those talks have stalled over multiple issues, so there’s no time to pass a bill before the end of the week.

usatoday.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:36:46am

gaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:37:34am
“They would say: ‘Are you Muslim?’” Trump said.

“And if they said, ‘yes,’ they would not be allowed in the country?” Geist asked.

“That’s correct,” Trump said.

And if they said no?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:37:34am
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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:37:35am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Oh, we’re already well past that. Ben Shapiro has been harping on that all morning. The Federalist ran a piece with that premise.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:37:36am

re: #107 Dr. Matt

At this point, Trump will have to kick newborn puppies live on TV to take a hit in the GOP polling.

Some of his followers strike me as the types that do this on the weekends for fun.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:37:50am

re: #114 BeachDem

When, exactly, did Reince condemn Trump? I heard he “strongly disagrees” (just checked—he didn’t even STRONGLY disagree. How the fuck is that a CONDEMNATION?

It’s not a condemnation. I hope all people of color and those belonging to every religious and other type of minority are taking notes. If they were able to get rid of all the Muslims, they’d start looking around to see who else they’d like to see gone.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:38:13am

re: #124 lawhawk

Oh, we’re already well past that. Ben Shapiro has been harping on that all morning. The Federalist ran a piece with that premise.

Ah I figured.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:38:55am

re: #125 Barefoot Grin

Some of his followers strike me as the types that do this on the weekends for fun.

He might gain David Huckabee (Mike’s son the dog torturer)’s support if he did that. Fred Malek too.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:39:03am

re: #98 lawhawk

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Again, the problem isn’t Trump. It’s the GOP.

Trump IS the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:39:14am

re: #126 CuriousLurker

It’s not a condemnation. I hope all people of color and those belonging to every religious and other type of minority are taking notes. If they were able to get rid of all the Muslims, they’d start looking around to see who else they’d like to see gone.

Exactly.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:39:52am
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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:40:54am

re: #107 Dr. Matt

At this point, Trump will have to kick newborn puppies live on TV to take a hit in the GOP polling.

Doubt it would help. They’d say the puppies were asking for it, or they were Muslim puppies, or it was a false flag incident with crisis actor puppies created out of whole cloth by Democrats.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:40:57am

re: #113 CuriousLurker

The real problem is that none of these nanocephalic slackjawed mouthbreathing imbeciles understand the first thing about the Qu’ran, let alone that “jihad” has two distinct meanings.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:41:34am
“Not one person said they would boycott the mall; it would be unfair, said one bus driver, to associate the man with mostly Turkish businesses inside the mall. Few if anyone at the mall blamed the U.S. for Trump’s actions. “It has nothing to do with the States,” said Nil Erkoc, a 50-year-old, shopping with a friend. “It has something to do with him, Trump.”
buzzfeed.com
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Kryptik  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:42:43am

re: #134 jaunte

Please, America, prove them right. I honestly no longer have faith in you to do so, but please, prove to them that America as a collective really doesn’t condone this shit.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:43:44am

re: #135 Kryptik

Please, America, prove them right. I honestly no longer have faith in you to do so, but please, prove to them that America as a collective really doesn’t condone this shit.

Indeed if this asshole is nominated, let’s give Donald a clean sweep. Very unlikely but it would send a resounding message.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:44:11am

I guess this is the rebranding Reince talked about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:44:13am

At the Kentucky inauguration festivities right now:

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:45:07am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

At the Kentucky inauguration festivities right now:

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I always disliked that song.

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Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:45:21am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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To bad Sarah didn’t keep Dakota out of Bristol.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:45:33am

blast from the past:

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:45:41am

re: #133 Eric The Fruit Bat

The real problem is that none of these nanocephalic slackjawed mouthbreathing imbeciles understand the first thing about the Qu’ran, let alone that “jihad” has two distinct meanings.

They don’t care and wouldn’t believe it even if you told them, just as there are antisemites that are convinced the Protocols are true. Geller, Spencer and many others have taught the lies so well that they’ve become facts in the minds of many.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:46:39am

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump has always disapproved of publicity seekers.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:46:59am

re: #122 Kragar

Wow. What thorough vetting! Why aren’t we doing this with Syrian refugees already?!?!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:47:32am
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:47:37am

I forgot to /

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:50:39am
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:50:51am

“I think Trump’s idea may be too strong, but I think something jarring is very helpful in leading to a national debate in how big this problem is, and how dangerous it is,” said Newt Gingrich.
nytimes.com

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Alephnaught  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:51:08am
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KGxvi  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:52:20am

re: #142 CuriousLurker

They would just claim its TAQIYYA!!1!1 which obviously gives all muzlums the duty to lie about everything

Because of course they would

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:52:36am

Again: Not just Trump. The entire GOP is leaning this way.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:52:45am

re: #148 jaunte

“I think Trump’s idea may be too strong, but I think something jarring is very helpful in leading to a national debate in how big this problem is, and how dangerous it is,” said Newt Gingrich.
nytimes.com

No, it’s not helpful at all you pseudo-intellectual jackass.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:53:00am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:53:11am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:53:36am

The GOP is now up there with Jobbik, the BNP, FN, and other Eurofascist parties. Congratulations you are no longer the party of Abraham Lincoln but the party of George Lincoln Rockwell.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:53:46am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Did he claim paternity yet? More important issue Dakota.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:53:53am
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Kragar  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:54:05am
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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:54:33am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion: Fox News Wants Your Kids to Charge at Active Shooters

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And, of course, it’s a scary black man with the gun.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:54:36am

re: #154 Charles Johnson

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I do sort of appreciate that more and more cons are being honest about being racist. It’s what their ideology has been about for a long time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:54:47am

re: #147 Charles Johnson

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My surprise, the guy who decides that other Jews are not Jewy enough and Gays and transgenders are Teh Ewwy is having the gay sexytimes on Twitter with an Anti-Semite.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:54:47am

re: #156 Stanley Sea Toujours

Did he claim paternity yet? More important issue Dakota.

silence has been deafening.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:54:52am

re: #120 Jenner7

Congress will miss its Friday deadline for government spending bill

usatoday.com

Continuing Irresolution.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:55:15am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

I think it’s more important for kids to look up from their phones when they cross the street.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:55:48am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

WTF.

Mercy is for the weak!

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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:55:54am

re: #153 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion: Fox News Wants Your Kids to Charge at Active Shooters

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Stupider than Falwell Jr. thinking he’s going to stop two shooters with AR-15s with a six-shot .25 ACP?

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Testy Toad T  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:56:47am

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun a child’s fist or something.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:56:52am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

I always disliked that song.

My Old Kentucky Home? Written by a drunk from Pittsburgh.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:57:30am

re: #165 Dr. Matt

Mercy is for the weak!

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Johnny was the victim in that movie. Daniel was the bad guy.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:57:42am

re: #156 Stanley Sea Toujours

Did he claim paternity yet? More important issue Dakota.

Bristol claiming that she was going to name the child “Sailor” was a definite “fuck you” directed at him.

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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:57:51am

This guy was in Syria for years, now he’s in Turkey.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:58:54am

re: #169 Kragar

Johnny was the victim in that movie. Daniel was the bad guy.

Johnny was victimized by an Asian.
Johnny’s family no longer eats Asian food.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2015 • 11:59:45am
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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:00:07pm

re: #166 Timothy Watson

Almost think that it would be useful to get all of these gun “experts” in a room, give them all paintball guns (like those that would be used in police academy training).

Then let someone start opening fire on them as a bad guy, and see how many others end up casualties or killing anyone but the original shooter.

Start with a crowded theater. Then maybe a lecture center in a college classroom. Or maybe a restaurant.

Odds are, all these supposed great shots would end up with a whole lot of collateral damage.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:00:08pm

re: #168 Decatur Deb

My Old Kentucky Home? Written by a drunk from Pittsburgh.

No, Greenwood’s Proud to be American. You’re talking about Foster though aren’t you? He was from Lawrenceville where my Irish relations lived in the Burgh.

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Alephnaught  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:00:11pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:00:20pm

DO IT. PLEASE DO IT.

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SirMixALot  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:00:33pm

re: #14 Testy Toad T

Germany required nothing less than Great Depression to make Hitler’s craziness seem attractive. America needs… I dunno, some brown people or something.

How exceptional of us.

Germany got hit with a one two punch. First war reparations for WW1 and the Great Depression. The average American has lived under harsh economic conditions for years if not decades. Wage suppression goes as far back as 1974. Only corporations are making money and its not trickling down to the workforce. Most Americans are living pay check to check and in debt. Couple that with 25 years of right wing media propaganda, terrorist attacks and cuts to education and you have all the conditions for fascism to take hold.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:00:56pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

DO IT. PLEASE DO IT.

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Run Donald run!

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:01:02pm
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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:01:29pm

re: #153 Dr. Matt

NOT The Onion: Fox News Wants Your Kids to Charge at Active Shooters

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My kids went through Tae Kwan Do and learned how to handle those situations. Those were to be used in cases that the gun was pointed at you and you were out of other options. The correct moves those kids in the back should have taken since they weren’t being threatened was to run away as fast as they could.

The moment she pulled his arm down, he would have pulled the trigger and ended her participation.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:02:06pm

re: #173 Charles Johnson

I seem to be getting hate-followed by right wing crackpots a lot lately.

We pay top dollar for used hatemail.

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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:02:44pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

We pay top dollar for used hatemail.

Hatetweets included?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:04:39pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

Hatetweets included?

At a steep discount, if less than 140 characters. This ain’t no charity.

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:05:38pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

lolwut?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:05:39pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:05:48pm
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calochortus  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:05:49pm

re: #181 Belafon

My kids went through Tae Kwan Do and learned how to handle those situations. Those were to be used in cases that the gun was pointed at your and you were out of other options. The correct moves those kids in the back should have taken since they weren’t being threatened was to run away as fast as they could.

The moment she pulled his arm down, he would have pulled the trigger and ended her participation.

Also, your odds of successfully rushing the bad guy are greatly increased if you are behind him and he is just standing there with his arm extended not paying the least bit of attention to anything.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:06:18pm

re: #150 KGxvi

They would just claim its TAQIYYA!!1!1 which obviously gives all muzlums the duty to lie about everything

Because of course they would

Exactly. Their taqiyya disinformation is a key part of their effort to demonize Muslims. It’s the prefect rejoinder to any effort Muslims make to explain their beliefs or condemn extremism. They have people believing that lying is part of Islam the way praying five times a day is.

If you’re interested in reading more and haven’t already seen it, one of the very early Pages I created shorty after I joined LGF in 2010 is titled About “Taqiyyah”.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:08:03pm

re: #189 CuriousLurker

Exactly. Their taqiyya disinformation is a key part of their effort to demonize Muslims. It’s the prefect rejoinder to any effort Muslims make to explain their beliefs or condemn extremism. They have people believing that lying is part of Islam the way praying five times a day is.

If you’re interested in reading more and haven’t already seen it, one of the very early Pages I created shorty after I joined LGF in 2010 is titled About “Taqiyyah”.

The wingnut TAQQIYA!!!1!!!! meme is plagiarized from the Anti-Semitic KOL NIDRE!!!1!!!! trope.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:09:41pm

Talk about over-the-top fear. In what dimension does the US have a chance of becoming “a giant Afghanistan?”

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:09:54pm

re: #148 jaunte

“I think Trump’s idea may be too strong, but I think something jarring is very helpful in leading to a national debate in how big this problem is, and how dangerous it is,” said Newt Gingrich.
nytimes.com

Shut up and go sell some trinkets, Newt. (Reminder: That’s who the SC GOP picked last time—they’re all in for Trump this year—as of 12/4:

Trump: 30% and climbing
Carson: 20% and fading
Rubio and Cruz: about 14% each and slowly climbing (but not as fast as TRUMP)

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KGxvi  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:10:41pm

re: #181 Belafon

I didn’t have training on how to disarm someone with a gun until I was a black belt (with over seven years experience). And even then, it was meant as a last option. Anyone with half a brain isn’t going to get close enough to you with a gun for much of any of it to do you any good, not in an active shooter situation. About the only time it might help is in a mugging situation. And even then, you’re better off giving them your wallet/purse and cancelling credit cards than you are trying to fight

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:11:14pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:12:45pm

re: #190 The Vicious Babushka

The wingnut TAQQIYA!!!1!!!! meme is plagiarized from the Anti-Semitic KOL NIDRE!!!1!!!! trope.

I had to read up on that. Quite interesting; personally, I always thought the whole TAQQIYA!! was just a riff on that old BS anti-Semitic canard THE TALMUD COMMANDS JEWS TO LIE TO THE GENTILES!1!!

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:13:14pm

re: #191 jaunte

Talk about over-the-top fear. In what dimension does the US have a chance of becoming “a giant Afghanistan?”

None. I was trying to come up with a joking comment along the lines of allowing 700M muslims immigrate, but you’d have to pick all 700M from the small pool of extremists.

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:13:20pm

re: #191 jaunte

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Talk about over-the-top fear. In what dimension does the US have a chance of becoming “a giant Afghanistan?”

His profile is that of a mentally-challenged person.

I’m on the Right now, because I allowed myself to realize what’s wrong. I follow ignorant leftist, they run from me. Stop importing terrorist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:13:59pm

Confident that Donald Trump has the immigration issue covered, Ted Cruz goes back to his favorite topic of expertise, Climate Denial==>

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KGxvi  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:14:31pm

re: #188 calochortus

Distraction is the key to stopping someone with a gun. Even most of those “times that civilians disarmed a shooter” lists going around, show cases where someone held the gunman’s attention while others tackled him from behind. One on one, you have to be in close range, fast, and lucky.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:14:51pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Once again, it doesn’t matter if Clinton got Trump to run. It’s that Republicans are following him.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:15:04pm

re: #53 lawhawk

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When white nationalists, Islamophobes, and neo Nazis embrace your positions, any rational person would know to back away. Trump? He’s reveling in it. And he’s got the voters right where he wants them - in his corner.

He’s a unifier! Look how well he brings all these diversified groups together, many of them left out of the political process a long time. /

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:15:35pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:16:14pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Confident that Donald Trump has the immigration issue covered, Ted Cruz goes back to his favorite topic of expertise, Climate Denial==>

OPEN INQUIRY!!! WERE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS HERE!!!!

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KGxvi  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:16:21pm

re: #196 Belafon

In fairness, we’d probably be better off as a nation if more people had access to opium. Sadly, I’m not sure if that’s a joke or not

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:16:31pm

Maybe this is out there, but it dawned on me yesterday that Trump embodies the other aspect of fascism, namely corporatism and the merging of state and corporation. Remember “Corporations are people”? Well sometimes people are corporations. Donald Trump is not just a man, he is also a corporation, a trademarked brand known all over the world.

If we think corporations have too much influence now, wait until one becomes a major party’s nominee, or God forbid, president. I recall he’s already said that wages are too HIGH. (Another completely unchallenged statement.) I wonder what he has in mind to address this “problem.” Then again, at this point, I’m not sure I want to know.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:17:43pm

re: #191 jaunte

Talk about over-the-top fear. In what dimension does the US have a chance of becoming “a giant Afghanistan?”

What is this person dribbling about?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:17:44pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Confident that Donald Trump has the immigration issue covered, Ted Cruz goes back to his favorite topic of expertise, Climate Denial==>

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Jeb’s the only one that would “pass” and it would be barely.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:18:22pm

re: #197 No Country For Old Haters

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His profile is that of a mentally-challenged person.

So based on his profile pic he fancies himself to be Lucky Luciano? *SNORT*

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:18:28pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Ted Cruz goes back to his favorite topic of expertise, Climate Denial

Modified for comprehensiveness.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:19:30pm

re: #208 CuriousLurker

So based on hi profile pic he fancies himself to be Lucky Luciano? *SNORT*

Haha I noticed that too.

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Great White Snark  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:20:04pm

Democrats launched an aggressive push on gun control Monday, starting with a procedural move aimed at forcing the House to vote on legislation to stop individuals on a government no-fly list from buying weapons.

Read more: politico.com

Well then. Another high profile and highly problematic endorsement of a plan to take away our rights without due process.Pres. Obama, Hilary Clinton and now Dem leadership. Our right to travel by air and buy a gun as a protected individuals right under the law.

Wrong turn there guys. Removing due process is hardly good gun control, or a good way to run a no fly list

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No Country For Old Haters  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:20:26pm

re: #204 KGxvi

In fairness, we’d probably be better off as a nation if more people had access to opium. Sadly, I’m not sure if that’s a joke or not

I hope it’s a joke. Opiates will make you temporarily happy while destroying your mind.
Opiates are about the worst drugs one can get involved with. Avoid opiates, benzos, and booze, and you can have a fun, pretty safe, time with drugs.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:20:42pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

LIVE: Data or Dogma? Promoting Open Inquiry in the Debate over the Magnitude of Human Impact on Earth’s Climate t.co
— Senator Ted Cruz

This is actually pretty weasly. Not whether there is climate change, or harmful climate change, or whether human activity plays a role in harmful climate change, but whether THE MAGNITUDE of human activity leading to harmful climate change is a problem. And of course, there is no threshold for Cruz et al at which it would be.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:21:40pm

re: #198 The Vicious Babushka

Confident that Donald Trump has the immigration issue covered, Ted Cruz goes back to his favorite topic of expertise, Climate Denial==>

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littlegreenfootballs.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:22:57pm

Jeb just went into Conspiracy Land.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:23:48pm

That doesn’t explain how Hillary manipulated Jeb Bush’s polls, though.

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:24:33pm

re: #212 No Country For Old Haters

Totally agree. Opiates are devastating to so many families. I would also add meth/speed to that list of “DO NOT TOUCH.”

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:25:02pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t remember now which Lizard said it, but it was along the lines of “If Bill Clinton was the one who talked Trump into running for POTUS, Bill Clinton needs to be put up on Mt. Rushmore.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:25:35pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Jeb just went into Conspiracy Land.

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You’re desperate Jeb.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:25:59pm

re: #216 The Vicious Babushka

That doesn’t explain how Hillary manipulated Jeb Bush’s polls, though.

Easy, Hillary told all the GOP voters that Jeb thinks conservatism is stupid and they believed her.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:26:17pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

DO IT. PLEASE DO IT.

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Wait, so 68% of the 27% of the 25%? That’s 4.6% of the electorate!

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Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:26:25pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Jeb just went into Conspiracy Land.

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Can’t Jeb! Just Fix It?

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calochortus  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:26:26pm

re: #189 CuriousLurker

Exactly. Their taqiyya disinformation is a key part of their effort to demonize Muslims. It’s the prefect rejoinder to any effort Muslims make to explain their beliefs or condemn extremism. They have people believing that lying is part of Islam the way praying five times a day is.

If you’re interested in reading more and haven’t already seen it, one of the very early Pages I created shorty after I joined LGF in 2010 is titled About “Taqiyyah”.

Thanks, I missed that the first time around-I didn’t spend as much time here back then.
Not that I thought Islam commanded people to run around lying to and/or murdering random people, but specifics are always good.

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UrbanAchiever  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:26:50pm

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

It was a tweet from Oliver Willis.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:26:53pm

re: #211 Great White Snark

Democrats launched an aggressive push on gun control Monday, starting with a procedural move aimed at forcing the House to vote on legislation to stop individuals on a government no-fly list from buying weapons.

Read more: politico.com

Well then. Another high profile and highly problematic endorsement of a plan to take away our rights without due process.Pres. Obama, Hilary Clinton and now Dem leadership. Our right to travel by air and buy a gun as a protected individuals right under the law.

Wrong turn there guys. Removing due process is hardly good gun control, or a good way to run a no fly list

Maybe Republicans could suggest fixing it by adding due process to the No Fly List.

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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:27:16pm

OMG!

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:27:44pm

re: #224 UrbanAchiever

It was a tweet from Oliver Willis.

Ah, OK.

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blueraven  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:28:52pm

re: #211 Great White Snark

Democrats launched an aggressive push on gun control Monday, starting with a procedural move aimed at forcing the House to vote on legislation to stop individuals on a government no-fly list from buying weapons.

Read more: politico.com

Well then. Another high profile and highly problematic endorsement of a plan to take away our rights without due process.Pres. Obama, Hilary Clinton and now Dem leadership. Our right to travel by air and buy a gun as a protected individuals right under the law.

Wrong turn there guys. Removing due process is hardly good gun control, or a good way to run a no fly list

If someone is wrongly on that list, then call your congress person and get off. Otherwise, they should not be able to get a gun.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:29:43pm

Newt Gingrich in 2007:

If you go back and look at the greatest of the Caliphates, they were very modern, they were very cosmopolitan. They were actually better for Christians and Jews than a number of Christian places. They had very enlightened policies. So, obviously, they had really smart religious leaders who said, “Oh yeah, you know, a cosmopolitan, inclusive system with lots of dissenters is fine. And then you have other places that become very obscurantist and basically say, “If you’re not rigid we kill you.” … we should be in the business of maximizing the networking and the communicating and the capabilities of people who are prepared to defend and support a reconcilable modernizing Islam.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Starts around the 01:00 mark:

Islam, Religious Violence and Modernity

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KGxvi  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:30:59pm

re: #212 No Country For Old Haters

I’d say it’s 95% a joke. I just had the image of 19th century opium dens in my head and the thought that there’s more than a few people in this country that could stand to take the edge off.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:32:25pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:33:09pm

Jeb’s saying GOP voters are stupid, I agree with that.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:34:10pm

re: #230 KGxvi

I’d say it’s 95% a joke. I just had the image of 19th century opium dens in my head and the thought that there’s more than a few people in this country that could stand to take the edge off.

Something I read somewhere suggested that opium was quite popular in the Wild West.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:34:53pm

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

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William Lewis  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:35:56pm

re: #233 Belafon

Something I read somewhere suggested that opium was quite popular in the Wild West.

Laudinum (a tincture of opium containing approximately 10% powdered opium by weight) was the magic potion of pre-1900 America.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:38:31pm

re: #174 lawhawk

Almost think that it would be useful to get all of these gun “experts” in a room, give them all paintball guns (like those that would be used in police academy training).

Then let someone start opening fire on them as a bad guy, and see how many others end up casualties or killing anyone but the original shooter.

Start with a crowded theater. Then maybe a lecture center in a college classroom. Or maybe a restaurant.

Odds are, all these supposed great shots would end up with a whole lot of collateral damage.

I posted a comment very similar to this a couple months ago. It was right after the theater shooting in July. I wish someone (like a college) did this as a study. I think the results would be shocking.

But with a faint understanding of the heroic wingnutter mind, I bet they would think “I’d do better than that.”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:39:51pm

re: #233 Belafon

Something I read somewhere suggested that opium was quite popular in the Wild West.

And in the Wild East:

alternet.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:43:04pm

re: #174 lawhawk

Almost think that it would be useful to get all of these gun “experts” in a room, give them all paintball guns (like those that would be used in police academy training).

Then let someone start opening fire on them as a bad guy, and see how many others end up casualties or killing anyone but the original shooter.

Start with a crowded theater. Then maybe a lecture center in a college classroom. Or maybe a restaurant.

Odds are, all these supposed great shots would end up with a whole lot of collateral damage.

A 2nd Amendment rights group in Texas did just that in reenacting the attack at the Charlie Hebdo offices.

Texas gun rights group reenacts Paris massacre with ‘armed civilian’ — and everyone still dies

Over the weekend, a Texas gun rights group repeatedly reenacted the Charlie Hebdo massacre in order to determine whether it could have been prevented if one of the editors or cartoonists had been armed, CBS DFW reports.

Members of the group, “The Truth About Guns,” recreated the Hebdo offices, then took turns playing the role of the “armed civilian” in the scenario.

No matter how the situation played out, though, one thing remained consistent — if the “armed civilian” confronted the attackers, he or she died. The only time the “armed civilian” survived was when the volunteer playing him ran away at the first sound of gunfire.

“He started shooting,” volunteer Linda Cruz said, “and I started shooting, and I died” — that is, she was shot by a paintball in a area that the group designated was a “critical hit.”

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:47:41pm

re: #76 jaunte

Tea party tag team.

Bad cop, worse cop.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2015 • 12:54:43pm

re: #235 William Lewis

Laudinum (a tincture of opium containing approximately 10% powdered opium by weight) was the magic potion of pre-1900 America.

Wasn’t Wyatt Earp’s wife addicted to Laudinum in the film Tombstone?

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Great White Snark  Dec 8, 2015 • 1:31:44pm

re: #225 Belafon

Maybe Republicans could suggest fixing it by adding due process to the No Fly List.

I don’t count on them for any help. The better question might have been how the hell did anything like that happen here without due process built in? A decision that flying is not a right because you can walk or take a train or car. Buch era, held up under Obama so at this point he is just about as guilty.

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2015 • 3:04:05pm

re: #235 William Lewis

Laudinum (a tincture of opium containing approximately 10% powdered opium by weight) was the magic potion of pre-1900 America.

Imbibing of which almost sunk the Continental Op in Red Harvest.


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