Watch Live: President Obama’s Statement on the Climate Agreement
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We have surrendered our sovereignty to a bunch of tree huggers!!!
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Fix up a drink, sit back in your favorite easy chair and listen to the cheerful pop-pop-pop of wingnut heads exploding.
We need to step up subsidies big time for alternative energy/conservation.
Environmental issues aren’t something I’m very knowledgeable about but my brother who’s really into these issues was telling me how pathetic it is that the Germans who don’t get nearly as much sunshine as we do are beating us bad at the solar energy game. I’m with Amory. Let’s step up the subsidies for alterantive energy and conservation.
re: #4 Amory Blaine
We need to step up subsidies big time for alternative energy/conservation.
National security!
I guess the UN helicopters that will be patrolling our homeland will be solar powered
Honestly I look at investing in atlerantive fuels and energy sources like this. It’s good for the planet, it will create new jobs, and leave a better future for our children. My great grandfathers were coal miners. And coal did have a use but it’s time for new energy in a new century.
Key points of the landmark Paris climate agreement
- The long-term objective of the agreement is to make sure global warming stays “well below” 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) and to “pursue efforts” to limit the temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit).
- In order to reach the long-term goal, countries agreed to set national targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions every five years. The initial targets won’t be enough to put the world on a path to meet the long-term temperature goal. So the agreement asks governments to review their targets in the next four years and see if they can “update” them.
- There is no penalty for countries that miss their emissions targets. But the agreement has transparency rules to help encourage countries to actually do what they say they will do.
- The agreement says wealthy countries should continue to offer financial support to help poor countries reduce their emissions and adapt to climate change. It also encourages other countries to pitch in on a voluntary basis.
- In a victory for small island nations threatened by rising seas, the agreement includes a section recognizing “loss and damage” associated with climate-related disasters.
bigstory.ap.org
I’ve seen estimates for solar paneling a house of my size ~1200 sf of over 30k. Geothermal pricing is in the same ball park, which just baffles me. All they’re doing is drilling a fucking hole in the ground and looping a plastic hose to a heat exchanger.
re: #6 HappyWarrior
Environmental issues aren’t something I’m very knowledgeable about but my brother who’s really into these issues was telling me how pathetic it is that the Germans who don’t get nearly as much sunshine as we do are beating us bad at the solar energy game. I’m with Amory. Let’s step up the subsidies for alterantive energy and conservation.
Germany’s southern solar power facilities are essentially along the same latitudinal lines as northern Maine and the Seattle-Vancouver corridor
Can I just say again how thankful I am our country chose Obama over McCain and Romney again?
re: #12 FormerDirtDart
Germany’s southern solar power facilities are essentially along the same latitudinal lines as northern Maine and the Seattle-Vancouver corridor
So lots of rain and cloudy days?
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
You’re being a partisan hack big time here.
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
lolwut?
What (R) candidate is trustworthy/nonpartisan on science?
Yeah. Republicans and trustworthy do not belong together.
But you’re right. McConnell would be so happy to work with Sanders or Clinton on this. And if you think any of the Republican candidates all of whom got a big fat F on this issue from climate change scientists actually will do anything about this issue, you’re out of your mind.
re: #16 HappyWarrior
You’re being a partisan hack big time here.
I am indeed, and I make no apologies for it.
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
Other than Hillary, who might that be? Or is Hillary it?
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
I guess because you have no children and as you have stated more than once - don’t plan to have children - the rest of the children on the planet can suck it.
Shame on you.
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
I am indeed, and I make no apologies for it.
Well honestly shame on you for putting politics before the planet here. You really need to grow the fuck up and stop putting your party before your country and planet.
re: #26 GlutenFreeJesus
Only if the drilling is for oil, not geothermal.
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
I am indeed, and I make no apologies for it.
Where do you get untrustworthy from?
re: #27 Amory Blaine
Only if the drilling is for oil, not geothermal.
Who’s objecting to geothermal? Nobody I know. Unlike some renewables it works quite well and at an reasonable cost.
re: #26 GlutenFreeJesus
DRILL, BABY… DRILL!!!!!!
There hasn’t been a metal yet developed that can drill thorough D.Fs partisan shell. Hell, I doubt even a photon torpedo could penetrate it.
re: #24 blueraven
I guess because you have no children and as you have stated more than once - don’t plan to have children - the rest of the children on the planet can suck it.
Shame on you.
It goes beyond whether or not one has children. Having them does not guarantee empathy, and not having them does not prevent empathy.
If only empathy were available in an administerable form.
re: #28 Stanley Sea Toujours
Where do you get untrustworthy from?
Seriously, I see that thrown around. Along with lies!
I wan’t specific examples.
“…a majority of Americans (62%) think the U.S. should reduce its greenhouse gas emissions regardless of what other countries do.”
environment.yale.edu
GOP Weighs How to Undercut Obama’s Climate Talks
wsj.com
The Stupid Party.
I went to buy work boots yesterday. Not a single boot out of around 100 in the store was made in the U.S.
/sad rant.
re: #28 Stanley Sea Toujours
Where do you get untrustworthy from?
or better yet, where do you get the idea that a Republican senate led by McConnell would work with any Democratic president on this issue. Face it, DF, they’d refuse to work with Clinton this issue because she’s a Clinton, Sanders because he’s a boogeyhoogey socialist zoinks Raggy, or in the unlikelihood Marty wins, they’d find some fault with him. Or you mean your fellow Republicans whom as I got as all are big fucking failures on this issue and have no desire to address it seriously. So yeah you’re not only being a partisan hack, you’re being dishonest and this is why your party deserves to be landslided next year because of selfish shit like this.
re: #33 wrenchwench
It goes beyond whether or not one has children. Having them does not guarantee empathy, and not having them does not prevent empathy.
If only empathy were available in an administerable form.
It certainly should go beyond whether or not one has children, but in some cases I have serious doubts.
re: #37 Amory Blaine
I went to buy work boots yesterday. Not a single boot out of around 100 in the store was made in the U.S.
/sad rant.
As an aside, try White’s Boot’s in Spokane Washington. Very expensive but extremely comfortable and long lasting.
re: #28 Stanley Sea Toujours
Where do you get untrustworthy from?
Obama is totally untrustworthy. He promised to take away guns and didn’t.
Herd us all into FEMA Camps? Have Operation Jade Helm take over Texas? Neither never happened.
Can’t count on him for sh*t.
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re: #39 Stanley Sea Toujours
Get out from under that rock. :))))
Fact Sheet: Polling the American Public on Climate Change (2015)
“There is a disparity among party lines when it comes to climate change, with a large majority of Democrats believing that human actions are changing the climate, while fewer Republicans hold the same belief. However, strong majorities of self-described liberal and moderate Republicans say climate change is happening.”
eesi.org
16 polls at the link.
re: #44 jaunte
Fact Sheet: Polling the American Public on Climate Change (2015)
16 polls at the link.
They need to poll the people that really matter. Big Oil execs!
re: #44 jaunte
Fact Sheet: Polling the American Public on Climate Change (2015)
16 polls at the link.
And yet the self described liberal and moderate Republicans continue to hitch their boat to a party that wants to do nothing about the issue because they hate environmentalists and Al Gore more than they care about the planet. It reminds me of why I found Jon Huntsman detestable a few years ago. Yes, he acknowledged Climate Change was real but then he was advocating getting rid of the EPA.
re: #11 Amory Blaine
I’ve seen estimates for solar paneling a house of my size ~1200 sf of over 30k. Geothermal pricing is in the same ball park, which just baffles me. All they’re doing is drilling a fucking hole in the ground and looping a plastic hose to a heat exchanger.
I suspect the “geothermal” you are talking about is really just about conventional heat pump technology taking advantage of the fact that just a few feet down, the temperature is about 50 to 55 F year-round —at least in temperate climates. This permits far greater efficiency and reliability than when using outdoor air as the “cold” side for a heat pump.
re: #28 Stanley Sea Toujours
Where do you get untrustworthy from?
His history of making agreements on funding levels and then coming back asking for more money for departments other than Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security (sometimes State, but mostly not). All other departments should get their funds during normal appropriations only and the president should abide by agreement made once they are reached.
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
His history of making agreements on funding levels and then coming back asking for more money for departments other than Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security (sometimes State, but mostly not). All other departments should get their funds during normal appropriations only and the president should abide by agreement made once they are reached.
That’s pretty mild, as presidents go.
re: #39 Stanley Sea Toujours
OMG never saw that before. wha
re: #37 Amory Blaine
Red Wing, Danner, White. I think you can get those Whites custom built. Where were you shopping Payless? A good quality boot may seem expensive but they will last damn near forever. Just replace the soles as necessary.
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
Anyway, I don’t believe this is a treaty. It is an Agreement, and very little is legally binding.
re: #52 compound_Idaho
Where were you shopping Payless?
This is not his FIRST pair of boots, I’d wager.
re: #50 wrenchwench
That’s pretty mild, as presidents go.
I’d like to point out here that Ted Kennedy still worked with Bush on immigration after the Iraq fiasco.
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
His history of making agreements on funding levels and then coming back asking for more money for departments other than Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security (sometimes State, but mostly not). All other departments should get their funds during normal appropriations only and the president should abide by agreement made once they are reached.
Beyond weak. I’m sure that’s how business is done in Washington. Not that I even care, this example is such a minuscule example of untrustworthy.
Geeze, you’d think he said something about WMD & lots of people died.
Dark…….
We could be taking advantage of these low oil prices by adding a tax for alternative energy or conservation projects.
re: #35 Stanley Sea Toujours
Seriously, I see that thrown around. Along with lies!
I wan’t specific examples.
Never gonna get specifics. Maybe Obama’s unconstitutional takeover, he’s a dictator, other bullshit like that, but nothing real. Ever.
re: #52 compound_Idaho
Even the Red Wings were made in China. I went to Rogan’s shoes.
re: #56 Stanley Sea Toujours
Beyond weak. I’m sure that’s how business is done in Washington. Not that I even care, this example is such a minuscule example of untrustworthy.
Geeze, you’d think he said something about WMD & lots of people died.
Dark…….
Also note the departments he feels should be granted blank checks.
Dark I love ya, but your comments here get a big ole downding from me. SMDH
re: #53 blueraven
Anyway, I don’t believe this is a treaty. It is an Agreement, and very little is legally binding.
CNN is reporting it must be ratified by individual nations, which in the Us means it needs a 2/3rds vote by the US Senate.
re: #54 wrenchwench
Heh, 23 years buying steel toe boots.
re: #49 Dark_Falcon
His history of making agreements on funding levels and then coming back asking for more money for departments other than Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security (sometimes State, but mostly not). All other departments should get their funds during normal appropriations only and the president should abide by agreement made once they are reached.
Would you like him better if he just put all that stuff on the credit card?
You all have fallen under Lord Bammer’s HomoIslamic Sharia Spell.
Sheeple.
You know, this could be a good time for Mitch McConnell to show he’s a little more than the bitter prick who promised to make Obama a one term president but I guess that’s too much to ask of Mitch and the Republicans in the Senate. Man I’m sorry but this shit just makes me mad. Then again I can’t be too surprised since Mitch’s party also rejected a treaty supported by Bob Dole by the way regarding people on disabilities.
re: #60 allegro
Also note the departments he feels should be granted blank checks.
Def. I noted that immediately.
re: #64 stpaulbear
Would you like him better if he just put all that stuff on the credit card?
He’d like it better if Obama did everything the Republicans wanted. That as then Senate candidate Mourdock in Indiana admitted what his idea of bipartisanship was.
re: #60 allegro
Also note the departments he feels should be granted blank checks.
Yes, the one that has the most amount of corruption and bloating in its budget.
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re: #59 Amory Blaine
Red Wing owns some brands that are made in China, but the Red Wing line is American, Union made.
re: #70 FormerDirtDart
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I keep on expecting Cruz to emerge in Iowa. He fits the profile. Look at past Iowa winners and tell me what they have in common with Ted (being an asshole doesn’t count).
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
Oh look another outrageous comment by Dark_Falcon. And let me see. Yep, it’s Saturday. Just a little later than usual.
You can criticize the president. But to say he is not trustworthy is flatly more political bullshit.
I know who I don’t trust. A piker like McConnell.
re: #62 Dark_Falcon
CNN is reporting it must be ratified by individual nations, which in the Us means it needs a 2/3rds vote by the US Senate.
Not exactly, that liar Obama might not be as dumb as you think:
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Some elements of the accord are voluntary, while others are legally binding. That hybrid structure was specifically intended to ensure the support of the United States: An accord with binding targets would be legally interpreted as a new treaty and would have to go before the Senate for ratification. Such a plan would be dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate, where many question the established science of climate change and hope to thwart Mr. Obama’s climate change agenda.
As a result, all language on the reduction of carbon emissions is essentially voluntary. The deal assigns no concrete reduction targets to any country. Instead, each government has crafted a plan to lower emissions at home based on the country’s domestic politics and economy.
It’s not his first day.
re: #62 Dark_Falcon
CNN is reporting it must be ratified by individual nations, which in the Us means it needs a 2/3rds vote by the US Senate.
From the link
And the agreement won’t enter into force until 55 countries have ratified it. Those nations must account for 55% of total global greenhouse gas emissions.
Might not need USA to ratify.
re: #68 HappyWarrior
He’d like it better if Obama did everything the Republicans wanted. That as then Senate candidate Mourdock in Indiana admitted what his idea of bipartisanship was.
He pretty much has done what they wanted (see ACA). It’s just that they don’t want it anymore when Obama says OK, lets do that then.
My boots never last. I drag my toes across concrete while on my knees so I burn holes in them. I have Red Wings MIA currently, I was just kind of shocked that a major boot store in town had none on the shelf.
re: #74 b.d.
Not exactly, that liar Obama might not be as dumb as you think:
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It’s not his first day.
SEE!! YOU CANT TRUST HIM ON ANYTHING!!1!1!!
re: #69 HappyWarrior
Yes, the one that has the most amount of corruption and bloating in its budget.
The ones that are authoritarian and involve guns and killing.
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
I am indeed, and I make no apologies for it.
Gonna vote for Trump then aren’t you.
And with your admittance there is no longer any need to take anything you say serious.
re: #77 Amory Blaine
My boots never last. I drag my toes across concrete while on my knees so I burn holes in them. I have Red Wings MIA currently, I was just kind of shocked that a major boot store in town had none on the shelf.
I ran over a boot in the middle of the interstate today. Not a sole to be found. (Yes, really.)
re: #76 allegro
He pretty much has done what they wanted (see ACA). It’s just that they don’t want it anymore when Obama says OK, lets do that then.
Yeah I guess they want him to resign and apologize for beating the GOP at the polls twice then. There seems to be a genuine hate of this president not just politically but actual hate from the GOP. I mean look at how silent they were when Rudy Giuliani questioned Obama’s love of our country. I’ve never seen anything like that. They really do hate him because he represents a changing America and they’re afraid as hell of that. Fuck them.
re: #34 Camacho DeezNuts 2016
re: #39 Stanley Sea Toujours
re: #51 FormerDirtDart
An internet viral classic if there ever was one. Delta even included him on their Youtube version of the Safety Video.
re: #69 HappyWarrior
Yes, the one that has the most amount of corruption and bloating in its budget.
No, I didn’t mention the Department of Veteran’s Affairs.
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
*plop*
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
No, I didn’t mention the Department of Veteran’s Affairs.
Yeah keep on telling yourself the DOD isn’t filled with problems. I know a little more about the workings of the DOD than you do believe it or not.
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
No, I didn’t mention the Department of Veteran’s Affairs.
No, instead you mentioned a branch of the federal government that has admitted, time and again, that it’s impossible to audit its budget. That is cannot account for every single dollar budgeted to it because of the arcane manner in which it runs things. Not only that, it is actually exempt from the same annual audits that those branches you feel should be bound to normal appropriations bills are required to undergo.
re: #70 FormerDirtDart
Of course, Trump will say that he predicted that the DSM Register would treat him badly.
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
I am indeed, and I make no apologies for it.
SHUT THE FUCK UP, DONNY! YOU’RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!
re: #88 Targetpractice
No, instead you mentioned a branch of the federal government that has admitted, time and again, that it’s impossible to audit its budget. That is cannot account for every single dollar budgeted to it because of the arcane manner in which it runs things. Not only that, it is actually exempt from the same annual audits that those branches you feel should be bound to normal appropriations bills are required to undergo.
It’s something Eisenhower knew about 55 years ago. Really the DOD has tons of problems. There’s a lot of money to be made in war.
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
No, I didn’t mention the Department of Veteran’s Affairs.
I would argue that a hell of a lot of corruption lies in state and local government. Namely, Law Enforcement.
re: #87 HappyWarrior
I have written here many times about the problems of the Defense Department. But departments dealing in national-security matters sometimes need extra monies mid-year to deal with emerging threats.
That Cruz has the endorsement of the chief theocrat (Bob Vander Plaats) in the state is probably an important factor.
re: #93 blueraven
I would argue that a hell of a lot of corruption lies in state and local government. Namely, Law Enforcement.
That’s true, but we were talking about federal budgeting.
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re: #84 Dark_Falcon
No, I didn’t mention the Department of Veteran’s Affairs.
Oh so clever.
You know what a good defense is? Keeping the place you inhabit habitable.
You know what a good conservative is? One that reads the Preamble to the Constitution and defends items in it like #2 - promote the general Welfare.
You aren’t a conservative, you admitted you are a political hack. And you are.
Army has lost to Navy in this matchup every time since I retired.
So, this could be an insanely long winning streak.
re: #94 Dark_Falcon
I have written here many times about the problems of the Defense Department. But departments dealing in national-security matters sometimes need extra monies mid-year to deal with emerging threats.
yeah it’s funny how small government goes out the window when it comes to machines that can kill people. I know. Seriously, I didn’t propose dramatic defense budget cuts but your party has no credibility at all to criticize spending when you not only refuse to consider cutting wasteful defense spending, you want more of it. I get it, war makes your party’s policymakers hard down there, like wise providing a better chance for my fellow citizens through things like HUD, VA, Education, etc does it for me.
re: #70 FormerDirtDart
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Trump is now going to go full on attack now on Cruz because of those poll numbers, I hope he plays the birther eligibility card.
Karma is a bitch
re: #82 HappyWarrior
Yeah I guess they want him to resign and apologize for beating the GOP at the polls twice then. There seems to be a genuine hate of this president not just politically but actual hate from the GOP. I mean look at how silent they were when Rudy Giuliani questioned Obama’s love of our country. I’ve never seen anything like that. They really do hate him because he represents a changing America and they’re afraid as hell of that. Fuck them.
They hated Bill Clinton as much and still hate Hillary with the same passion. The only difference is chocolate icing (blackety blackness) on the dem cake vs tasty tuna (icky bitch woman [dont hate on my poetic license, please!]) in that dem casserole.
They’ve hated passionately every dem since Carter; actively going after Bill (and over healthcare and Hillary (Vince Foster, Whitewater, and you know those Arkansas hillbillies stood all the W’s off White House keyboards when they left, et al, in the 90s) to lying about Obama (TYRANT!!11!! DICTATOR!!11!! LIAR!!11!!) to BENGHAZI!!11!!! and EMAIL!!11!!!
re: #103 WhatEVs
They hated Bill Clinton as much and still hate Hillary with the same passion. The only difference is chocolate icing (blackety blackness) on the dem cake vs tasty tuna (icky bitch woman [dont hate on my poetic license, please!]) in that dem casserole.
They’ve hated passionately every dem since Carter; actively going after Bill (and over healthcare and Hillary (Vince Foster, Whitewater, and you know those Arkansas hillbillies stood all the W’s off White House keyboards when they left, et al, in the 90s) to lying about Obama (TYRANT!!11!! DICTATOR!!11!! LIAR!!11!!) to BENGHAZI!!11!!! and EMAIL!!11!!!
They’re not over the fact that Nixon was a crook and got brought down for being one.
re: #80 ObserverArt
Gonna vote for Trump then aren’t you.
And with your admittance there is no longer any need to take anything you say serious.
His first post on this thread relieves you of any need to take him seriously ever again. Pure GOP horseshit.
re: #95 freetoken
That Cruz has the endorsement of the chief theocrat (Bob Vander Plaats) in the state is probably an important factor.
Oh god that guy.
re: #104 HappyWarrior
They’re not over the fact that Nixon was a crook and got brought down for being one.
And yet, Nixon helped create the EPA, and I’d be willing to bet he would be in on this climate agreement.
I swear. There are no true conservatives. Only rightest radicals. Conservative as a political party term is dead in this country.
Can’t wait for that GOP Liar on Liar cage match. Trump’s ego cannot abide. This has EPIC! potential.
re: #97 jaunte
It’s not just the lying. It’s what the lies are about, and Republican lies can be incredibly damaging: sometimes resulting in violence, often resulting in ignorance.
re: #83 Eric The Fruit Bat
An internet viral classic if there ever was one. Delta even included him on their Youtube version of the Safety Video.
!!!!! Loved it
Trump’s favorite SC Justice: Clarence Thomas.
When Trump is Pres he’ll fire all of the Supremes other than Thomas and replace them with reliable members of his family.
re: #21 Dark_Falcon
I am indeed, and I make no apologies for it.
Noted and logged. This certainly explains at least one reason why you take shots at Obama-because he makes the GOP look like whiny-ass titty babies on a regular schedule. He’s actually the conservative the GOP would like to run but can’t find since the suicide caucus has seized party control and the sane ones left.
One reason why the GOP earned my emnity is that they tried to stop me from voting when I moved.
re: #107 ObserverArt
And yet, Nixon helped create the EPA, and I’d be willing to bet he would be in on this climate agreement.
I swear. There are no true conservatives. Only rightest radicals. Conservative as a political party term is dead in this country.
Well I think we know why the term reactionary exists. They have no policy of their own only reactions. Hey Obama is in favor of this, WE’RE AGAINST THIS! It’s not even principled disagreement. It’s trying to fuck this president over. Man it must suck to be a Republican in 2015 knowing your party has gone from having truly great leaders like Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower to the clowns that run the show today.
re: #111 Skip Intro
Trump’s favorite SC Justice: Clarence Thomas.
When Trump is Pres he’ll fire all of the Supremes other than Thomas and replace them with reliable members of his family.
Clones!
re: #97 jaunte
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Interesting how Martin O’Malley has a “True or Mostly Truer percentage that is less than half of any other Dem. But on the other hand he has no “Pants on Fire!” statements, a distinction he shares only with Lindsey Graham and Bernie Sanders.
re: #107 ObserverArt
And yet, Nixon helped create the EPA, and I’d be willing to bet he would be in on this climate agreement.
I swear. There are no true conservatives. Only rightest radicals. Conservative as a political party term is dead in this country.
Yup. There is no party; ideologues every one. They think they’re a party until No True Scotsman kicks in. Then the tent shrinks. It’s gotta be Barbie sized now. As long as Skipper isn’t invited, they all fit in.
re: #112 Eric The Fruit Bat
Noted and logged. This certainly explains at least one reason why you take shots at Obama-because he makes the GOP look like whiny-ass titty babies on a regular schedule. He’s actually the conservative the GOP would like to run but can’t find since the suicide caucus has seized party control and the sane ones left.
One reason why the GOP earned my emnity is that they tried to stop me from voting when I moved.
Indeed Obama is more of a conservative than any of the so called conservatives in power today ever will be. These guys aren’t conservatives. They’re reactionaries trying to send us back to a time that never was because they can’t get over the fact that Obama is the first Democrat since FDR to win over 50% of the vote twice in a presidential election. Twice the American people have affirmed that he was their choice overwhelmingly and the Republicans can’t take that. They hated FDR too of course.
re: #108 WhatEVs
Can’t wait for that GOP Liar on Liar cage match. Trump’s ego cannot abide. This has EPIC! potential.
That would never work, as Donald Trump’s ego will not fit in a WWE-sized cage.
re: #115 Dark_Falcon
Because O’M is a champion in half-true/half-false statements, it seems. Quite a wishy-washy guy.
re: #118 Dark_Falcon
That would never work, as Donald Trump’s ego will not fit in a WWE-sized cage.
His hair sure won’t.
re: #105 Blind Frog Belly White
His first post on this thread relieves you of any need to take him seriously ever again. Pure GOP horseshit.
Wait.. people took Mr. “BBL” and ‘dodges questions like Neo dodges bullets in the Matrix’ seriously?
DF - again, you’re a nice guy - you’ve just chosen to anchor yourself to the wrong boat in this Regatta. Your political party is experiencing its death throes right now.. you’ll see a few twitches here or there.. and some valiant efforts to save it - but..when you’re saddled with guys like Trump and Cruz steering the ship, you’re already dead in the water.
Here is some hard-hitting, deep subject analysis from Politifact.
Gov. Scott Walker says he bought a sweater for $1 at Kohl’s
re: #123 Amory Blaine
Politifact needs a “Low Bar” handicap on some of their ratings.
“If a protester starts demonstrating in the area around you, please do not touch or harm the protester. This is a peaceful rally. In order to notify the law enforcement officers of the location of the protester, please hold a rally sign over your head and start chanting: Trump! Trump! Trump! Ask the people around you to do likewise until the officer removes the protester. Thank you for helping us make America great again,” the campaign stated at the event on Thursday and again on Saturday.
The first round of protests was silent however, as demonstrators wore Star of David patches and turned their backs to the candidate while he spoke about his discriminatory plan to ban Muslims.
Despite being silent and non-disruptive, the demonstrators were forcefully removed from the crowd by police after five minutes.
There’s more…..bipartisanreport.com
re: #123 Amory Blaine
Here is some hard-hitting, deep subject analysis from Politifact.
Gov. Scott Walker says he bought a sweater for $1 at Kohl’s
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Well, a site like that has to serve up some softballs to keep from getting blacklisted. Otherwise campaigns would stop allowing reporters from Politifact-affiliated stations and publications access to candidates.
re: #59 Amory Blaine
Even the Red Wings were made in China. I went to Rogan’s shoes.
And Red Wings are so much crap these last few years.
MrBWS used to love them but his last few pairs fell apart in just a couple of months.
He won’t waste his money on them anymore.
re: #96 Dark_Falcon
That’s true, but we were talking about federal budgeting.
No. YOU are talking about your favorite convenient cherry-picked boogie man of the hour.
I know this was posted above, but not with this picture of the most punchable face in America.
Cruz Soars To 31 Percent In Iowa With 10-Point Lead Over Trump
The only thing stops a bunch of dicks is …
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) December 12, 2015
Finally a heartwarming American holiday story that makes my heart swell https://t.co/XIDpqM2fYN pic.twitter.com/sE8zQ2DK3s
— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) December 12, 2015
re: #134 Skip Intro
Ted Cruz is no different from Trump, but you betcha DF will vote for him.
“What the hell is Monmouth?” Trump riffed, clearly aware of Monday’s survey from the university showing Cruz leading him by five points in Iowa. “I only like polls that treat me well.”
Read more: politico.com
I’m really excited about the new Star Wars movie. I hope that Patrick Stewart and Tom Baker have a cameo in it.
/running_like_hell_for_cover
RBS
My husband just sent me this..Hard to make out, but the middle sticker says:
Hillary Rotten Clinton
“Butcher of Benghazi”
“Secretary of Secrecy”
“Foreign money whore”
re: #59 Amory Blaine
Not all Red Wing boots are made in China. I wear the same pair every day for two years, and they still have plenty of life left in them so I donate my work boots. Red Wings are the only work boots worth the money.
re: #134 Skip Intro
Reminder: Santorum won Iowa in 2012 and Huckabee won it in 2008.
The Iowa caucuses are overrated.
The thing about Cruz is he’s even less electable than Trump. https://t.co/fM1w3AtCXg
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 13, 2015
re: #142 Lidane
After twenty years in local politics in Philly I can say one thing for certain; you can never predict who will win any election until all the votes are counted.
re: #145 Eric The Fruit Bat
Super Tuesday will be the tell.
Yep. After March 1 we’ll see if the Republicans are well and truly fucked as a national party or not.
re: #145 Eric The Fruit Bat
That may give some indication but then again it may not.
re: #146 Lidane
Yep. After March 1 we’ll see if the Republicans are well and truly fucked as a national party or not.
They are anyway. Do you really think any of those dolts that are still inhabiting the clown car are worth electing, if even electable at all?
re: #111 Skip Intro
Trump’s favorite SC Justice: Clarence Thomas.
When Trump is Pres he’ll fire all of the Supremes other than Thomas and replace them with reliable members of his family.
re: #137 Skip Intro
“What the hell is Monmouth?” Trump riffed, clearly aware of Monday’s survey from the university showing Cruz leading him by five points in Iowa. “I only like polls that treat me well.”
Read more: politico.com
We’ve reached the point that I cannot tell what’s real and what’s not. I *am* in The Matrix.
Since someone brought up integrity, let’s talk about Sen. Mitch McConnell shall we?
Like how he’s been the primary block for getting the Zadroga Bill renewed and passed. Like he had to be shamed into doing anything at all by Jon Stewart being relentless about this cause. And that’s just this thing, there’s a lot more of a slime trail following this jackass from Kentucky around.
What’s fucked up is that politics has become a money soaked GAME. People die because of this shit. And way too many people don’t care because they just want to stick it to liberals or anything they are told is liberal by obscenely wealthy assholes on TV and radio or the internet. It’s too fucking bad too, because if people were fucking smarter we could defeat this shit by working together. Instead we’re fighting over Bill Clinton (!) being a rapist and Hillary’s emails and abortion and unions and whether or not a godamned minimum wage is needed FFS. We’re fighting about public schools sucking while fucking charter school corporations are taking our tax money and not doing any damned better with it (and heaven help you if your kid is in some way considered “special needs”, good luck with that shit, especially in the charter system) and charging you for the privlege of sending your kids there. Or, we’re fighting over whether clean air, soil and water, THE FUCKING THINGS WE NEED TO LIVE are actually necessary. And it won’t change until the right wing climbs off their fucking holier than thou we’re always right and you suck pedestal and joins the rest of us in reality. Yeah, I have high hopes for that shit. We were supposed to be Americans first and everything else came after, not anymore, and you know what? Liberals didn’t start that shit.
Gah. I’ve lived in the South too long, I’m surrounded by this nonsense and there’s no place to get away from it.
re: #139 Jenner7
Hillary Rotten Clinton
“Butcher of Benghazi”
“Secretary of Secrecy”
“Foreign money whore”
There’s some more of that famous Republican outreach to women.
re: #146 Lidane
Yep. After March 1 we’ll see if the Republicans are well and truly fucked as a national party or not.
They’re dead nationally. Far too alive and able to fuck up individual states.
re: #148 thedopefishlives
They are anyway. Do you really think any of those dolts that are still inhabiting the clown car are worth electing, if even electable at all?
LOL no. All of them are a disaster.
What I’m talking about is the Trump effect. If he does well on Super Tuesday I’m expecting the national party to start moving forward with a plan for a brokered convention. They’re already floating the possibility in the news. Super Tuesday will be the tipping point one way or another.
re: #151 GlutenFreeJesus
I said DART gun, not…
Happy Hanukkah! Good Week & Happy New Month.
Happy #Hanukkah 7th Light @KosherSoul @JihadiJew pic.twitter.com/GOmfByDEFk
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) December 12, 2015
Going on a date with Hubby. Have a good evening Lizards….
re: #156 The Vicious Babushka
And a good holiday to you too. :)
re: #134 Skip Intro
I know this was posted above, but not with this picture of the most punchable face in America.
Cruz Soars To 31 Percent In Iowa With 10-Point Lead Over Trump
I had to run with that…
Hmmm. Maybe we should do a CrowdSource funding and get these made. I bet we could sell ‘em.
UPDATE: Booking photo released of Coachella mosque firebombing suspect https://t.co/mzsSuGRKiA pic.twitter.com/V3tgzzFZbR
— ABC7 Eyewitness News (@ABC7) December 13, 2015
re: #137 Skip Intro
“What the hell is Monmouth?” Trump riffed, clearly aware of Monday’s survey from the university showing Cruz leading him by five points in Iowa. “I only like polls that treat me well.”
Read more: politico.com
“Monmouth is a toponym. You should know, your ancestors being from Innsmouth and all.”
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
RAH RAH RAH GO TEAM GOP
Honestly, I hope Hillary utterly annihilates Trump, Cruz, or whoever the GOP nominee is in the general election, just to take your smugness down a notch or two.
I’d like to be the Tums salesman to the GOP:
you’ve got Trump making off with the Crown Jewels while Cruz stays at the door laying down a line of fire to prevent any normal Republican from chasing after him.
re: #137 Skip Intro
Trump riffed, “I only like ______________________ that treat me well.”
Fill in the blank.
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
Seriously?
re: #142 Lidane
Reminder: Santorum won Iowa in 2012 and Huckabee won it in 2008.
The Iowa caucuses are overrated.
And crazy as all-get-out.
What the hell Iowa. Are you serious?
Don’t answer that.
re: #154 Lidane
LOL no. All of them are a disaster.
What I’m talking about is the Trump effect. If he does well on Super Tuesday I’m expecting the national party to start moving forward with a plan for a brokered convention. They’re already floating the possibility in the news. Super Tuesday will be the tipping point one way or another.
I’ve read where the reason they are looking at what to do with the convention is due to not knowing if anyone will have a clear majority so they need to plan ahead.
Not sure I buy all that.
The convention will be something to be watch for sure.
re: #66 HappyWarrior
People choose be disabled. They could not be disabled if they chose.
That’s what freedom is about: choices. If disabilities are not a choice then freedom doesn’t exist!
Alright Lizards, I hate to rant and run, but I went shopping today and I have a headache that could power a small city from dealing with nitwits and then coming home to a muddy dog and other assorted messes. I think I need a drink. Or four.
re: #135 Lidane
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God I love people with a sense of humor. Glad the assholes got the mocking they deserved.
re: #139 Jenner7
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Hard to make out, but the middle sticker says:
Hillary Rotten Clinton
“Butcher of Benghazi”
“Secretary of Secrecy”
“Foreign money whore”
Just realized that this time 4 years ago in Los Angeles I was starting to see bumper stickers for Obama and Ron Paul. Now I’m seeing Bernie and Hillary bumper stickers but I haven’t seen bumper stickers for any Republican running!
re: #172 Joe Bacon
Just realized that this time 4 years ago in Los Angeles I was starting to see bumper stickers for Obama and Ron Paul. Now I’m seeing Bernie and Hillary bumper stickers but I haven’t seen bumper stickers for any Republican running!
Saw a Carson one the other day. Yet to see a Trump one though I think one of my kid brother’s baseball coaches is going to vote for him given the way he whined about Anthony Bourdain criticizing Trump’s immigration plan.
re: #164 ObserverArt
Fill in the blank.
He really is so insecure. I guess it comes from knowing that deep down he’s nothing.
re: #169 Romantic Heretic
People choose be disabled. They could not be disabled if they chose.
That’s what freedom is about: choices. If disabilities are not a choice then freedom doesn’t exist!
I saw Dole was in the news the otehr day. He called Obama a good man and derided Cruz and Trump.
re: #146 Lidane
Considering the field I can’t see any way that can’t be the GOP’s fate.
What I worry about then is how the wingnuts will react when they realize they have no legal or ethical way to win an election. Oklahoma City style attacks might become much more common.
re: #160 jaunte
There’s a person who smiles a lot.
re: #142 Lidane
Reminder: Santorum won Iowa in 2012 and Huckabee won it in 2008.
The Iowa caucuses are overrated.
Not only overrated - “The Iowa caucuses are a fraud”
boomantribune.com
“you would have never known it in all the hype leading up to Iowa, but their caucuses have “practically no effect” on who will get the delegates from the Hawkeye state at the Republican National Convention. In 2012, Iowa had 28 delegates at the convention, and according to the New York Times, Ron Paul got 22 of them, Romney got five, and Rick Santorum got zero. One vote is listed as undetermined but probably went for Romney.”
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
The president can’t extend subsidies unilaterally, and its a treaty which means it needs 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify, and that it won’t get. The president can talk about this, but he is limited in what he can do without the approval of Congress.
Frankly, I think Mitch McConnell should simply declare that the Senate will not be taking up this treaty in 2016, but rather will wait for the next president in the hopes that he or she will be more trustworthy than Barack Obama.
Oh, President Obama, why weren’t you more trustworthy in dealing with the Republicans?
What have you witnessed over the last 7 years? Certainly not a GOP congress that wanted to work with Obama, especially not on climate change.
You’re not ignorant on climate change. And you at least see yourself as a moral person. So how can you reconcile delaying action? The health of your party over the health of the planet. Is that a lesson you want to teach your children?
No offense, but seriously you sound fucked in the head.
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