All LAUSD Schools Closed by 'Credible Threat' of Violence

All LAUSD Schools Closed by ‘Credible Threat’ of Violence

US NewsDecember 2015 • Views: 46,375

All LAUSD schools closed by ‘credible threat’ of violence:

Officials closed all Los Angeles Unified School District campuses Tuesday morning after receiving a “credible threat” of violence involving backpacks and packages left at campuses.

Authorities said they plan a search operation of all the LAUSD’s more than 900 schools. The nation’s second-largest school district has more than 700,000 students.

UPDATE at 12/15/15 9:00:54 am by Charles Johnson

Officials: Threats against nyc schools is a hoax and not credible. A school superintendent received the threat. @NY1 pic.twitter.com/H7g3extCMc

— Dean Meminger (@DeanMeminger) December 15, 2015

#nyc police commish Bratton says with info we know now, #LosAngeles over-reacted by closing schools there.

— Dean Meminger (@DeanMeminger) December 15, 2015

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263 comments

Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 8:04:52am

If they’d just allow guns in schools, they could stop this bomb threat.

Great White Snark Dec 15, 2015 • 8:06:26am

I’m staying out of the snark & speculation fun until this one is over peacefully.

b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 8:07:26am

re: #2 Great White Snark

I’m staying out of the snark & speculation fun until this one is over peacefully.

I think it already is.

b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 8:11:12am

Heh, arrests will be made today.

650,000 student Lockers WILL yield some interesting contraband; BUT let US hope LAPD’s search of all applicable AO’s finds No Threat #LAUSD

— publius (@yakendo) December 15, 2015

b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 8:12:48am

Terrorists officially just mailing it in now:

Official says threat that closed #LAUSD schools was emailed to school board member, appeared to come from overseas https://t.co/sUib2ga5cI

— The Boston Globe (@BostonGlobe) December 15, 2015

I’d love to know why they thought this threat was credible.

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 8:13:08am

Press Conference update scheduled for 9:00 a.m. at LAUSD Headquarters, 333 S. Beaudry Ave., Los Angeles 90017

— LAUSD (@LASchools) December 15, 2015

KGxvi Dec 15, 2015 • 8:18:25am

re: #4 b.d.

How many schools still have lockers? Granted, I was in Orange County but my junior high did away with lockers in 90 (before I started), and my high school dropped them in 94. They claimed it was a safety and population issue.

b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 8:19:06am

Is it me or does this whole thing stink to high heaven?

I have some information about an impending attack on the LAUSD! I just better email one member of the school board and let them know!

The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 8:19:24am

re: #7 KGxvi

How many schools still have lockers? Granted, I was in Orange County but my junior high did away with lockers in 90 (before I started), and my high school dropped them in 94. They claimed it was a safety and population issue.

Where did kids put their coats & books? Just haul them around from class to class?

Dave In Austin Dec 15, 2015 • 8:20:33am

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

Backpacks…. And that’s another ball of wax.

KGxvi Dec 15, 2015 • 8:23:13am

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

In junior high we had books we kept at home and each classroom had a set. In high school, they didn’t do that so we had to carry everything (I was on the water polo team so I had two lockers in the locker room (wet and dry) and used one for books). As for coats, it was Southern California so you just wore them if you had them, plus it wasn’t a fully enclosed campus (we pretty much had to go outside between every class)

The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 8:23:14am

re: #10 Dave In Austin

Backpacks…. And that’s another ball of wax.

Heavy backpacks in the ‘80’s caused spinal and joint stress that is affecting many middle-aged adults.

Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 8:23:27am

re: #9 The Vicious Babushka

Where did kids put their coats & books? Just haul them around from class to class?

Yep, that’s what my kids do.

KGxvi Dec 15, 2015 • 8:24:20am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

Heavy backpacks in the ‘80’s caused spinal and joint stress that is affecting many middle-aged adults.

It’s also why a lot of kids have those damn travel bags with wheels

Great White Snark Dec 15, 2015 • 8:26:49am

re: #5 b.d.

Terrorists officially just mailing it in now:

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I’d love to know why they thought this threat was credible.

San Bernardino.

Dr. Matt Dec 15, 2015 • 8:28:32am

b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 8:29:03am

re: #15 Great White Snark

San Bernardino.

Senior law enforcement official in LA tells @ABC the threat isn’t considered serious; schools closed out of abundance of caution -@BrianRoss

— ABC News (@ABC) December 15, 2015

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 8:29:03am

re: #5 b.d.

Terrorists officially just mailing it in now:

I’d love to know why they thought this threat was credible.

Well if they get Tim and Abby on it real fast I am sure they will be able to trace it back to the student who sent it to avoid today’s test.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 8:30:35am

Has the GOP front runner weighed in on this development?

The War TARDIS Dec 15, 2015 • 8:32:20am

re: #5 b.d.

Almost literally in this case.

lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 8:32:55am

Copycat?

Just in: there was a specific but NON credible threat made to NYC schools this morning

— NYPD NEWS (@NYPDnews) December 15, 2015

ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 8:34:03am

You know, reading some of the comments in the last thread and I remember Dark_Falcon saying Saturday that Barack Obama was untrustworthy as a President. And I chuckle. Why? Because the whole Republican Party is untrustworthy and frankly a joke.

Would anyone trust Trump, Cruz, Rubio and the others? I already know too much about Kasich and his hidden JobsOhio privatized business development group that is out of touch to the public and other crap he has done like it.

b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 8:36:34am

re: #21 lawhawk

Copycat?

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Chain e-mail sent to every major school district in the US

lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 8:37:22am

re: #23 b.d.

Forget the sarcasm tag…

BREAKING: Speaking to reporters, @CommissBratton says threat was sent to school districts across country. He described it as a hoax.

— Fox5NY (@fox5ny) December 15, 2015

nines09 Dec 15, 2015 • 8:37:24am

re: #22 ObserverArt

You know, reading some of the comments in the last thread and I remember Dark_Falcon saying Saturday that Barack Obama was untrustworthy as a President. And I chuckle. Why? Because the whole Republican Party is untrustworthy and frankly a joke.

Would anyone trust Trump, Cruz, Rubio and the others. I already know too much about Kasich and his hidden JobsOhio privatized business development group that is out of touch to the public and other crap he has done like it.

Just listen to the condemnation of Trump and his followers by the GOP…….Wait…..(rustling papers)………(voices in background)……..Nevermind.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 8:37:33am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

Heavy backpacks in the ‘80’s caused spinal and joint stress that is affecting many middle-aged adults.

Yep, German schoolkids have been struggling under the weight of them for decades. Good training for those long forced marches through the Ardennes…

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 8:38:46am

re: #25 nines09

Just listen to the condemnation of Trump and his followers by the GOP…….Wait…..(rustling papers)………(voices in background)……..Nevermind.

Just saw a German headline: Trump Rally Crowd Nearly Turns into Lynch Mob.

a bit over-dramatized but not that far off the mark…

Shiplord Kirel Dec 15, 2015 • 8:38:51am

Expect a tsunami of copycat threats all over the country as word spreads.

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 8:39:52am

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

Expect a tsunami of copycat threats all over the country as word spreads.

“You mean all I gotta do is send an anonymous mail and we all get the day off school?”

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 8:40:17am

Trump: “If I were there” I would’ve taken out the Paris attackers https://t.co/8qaeUxkX7I pic.twitter.com/gWZOXhwJYq

— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) December 15, 2015

Shiplord Kirel Dec 15, 2015 • 8:40:18am

re: #5 b.d.

Terrorists officially just mailing it in now:

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I’d love to know why they thought this threat was credible.

“from overseas”
Judgement of credibility may be based on analysis of origin.

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:41:18am

eieiei

ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 8:41:18am

re: #14 KGxvi

It’s also why a lot of kids have those damn travel bags with wheels

Really? I suppose the school hallways resemble an airport terminal. This I did not know.

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 8:41:27am

Pat Dollard is being predictably stupid on twitter.

nines09 Dec 15, 2015 • 8:41:33am

re: #27 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’ usually how people get killed. Mob closes in……Someone screams “Get him” and if the progression is not stopped, a beating or worse happens. In the eyes of the world, Trump must appear to be all the bad dreams rolled into one. But some folks like him. Yep.

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 8:42:12am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well his doctor says Trump is in Exceptional health and stamina!

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:42:12am

re: #16 Dr. Matt

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NO!

b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 8:43:10am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“You mean all I gotta do is send an anonymous mail and we all get the day off school?”

[school official] It must be real, they knew that we have school named after Washington and Lincoln! [/school official]

Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 8:43:13am

re: #37 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

NO!

why? he is still a far cry above any current GOP candidate in terms of qualification and ideology…

nines09 Dec 15, 2015 • 8:43:17am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

He would have fired off Tweet after Tweet after Tweet until they pulled his cold lifeless hands off his smart phone. His phone has a higher IQ at this point.

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:43:49am

Sad as it is, I’m ignoring the bomb threat.

I’m tired of bullies, scare tactics and general uproar.

Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 8:44:02am

re: #33 ObserverArt

I don’t know if you saw my note yesterday about your job interview. If you have some names, send thank you cards to them. Get some small cards with envelops and write a note about how you enjoyed the interviews. If you can remember a small personal detail, write it for each one. Send them to the company.

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:45:24am

KITTY!!!!

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:45:55am

re: #42 Belafon

I don’t know if you saw my note yesterday about your job interview. If you have some names, send thank you cards to them. Get some small cards with envelops and write a note about how you enjoyed the interviews. If you can remember a small personal detail, write it for each one. Send them to the company.

Yes, it’s amazing that the lost art of thank you notes is alive and well in the business world.

The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 8:47:37am

re: #42 Belafon

I don’t know if you saw my note yesterday about your job interview. If you have some names, send thank you cards to them. Get some small cards with envelops and write a note about how you enjoyed the interviews. If you can remember a small personal detail, write it for each one. Send them to the company.

I find it is easier to email the thank-yous. They could make a decision before receiving cards in the mail.

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 8:47:55am

Officials: Threats against nyc schools is a hoax and not credible. A school superintendent received the threat. @NY1 pic.twitter.com/H7g3extCMc

— Dean Meminger (@DeanMeminger) December 15, 2015

#Nyc mayor & police commish say they just got update on school threat. Schools will not be closed b/c it is a hoax. pic.twitter.com/n5sDIaapDy

— Dean Meminger (@DeanMeminger) December 15, 2015

#nyc police commish Bratton says with info we know now, #LosAngeles over-reacted by closing schools there.

— Dean Meminger (@DeanMeminger) December 15, 2015

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Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 8:48:32am

re: #44 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Yes, it’s amazing that the lost art of thank you notes is alive and well in the business world.

I’ve had software developers tell me the cards they received made a difference. If you can puncture that group, you can get through anyone.

ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 8:49:03am

re: #36 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Well his doctor says Trump is in Exceptional health and stamina!

This may have already been posted as I’ve been too busy to keep up today…

Mediaite - Hospital Where Trump’s Doctor Works Wants to Make It Clear His Views Are Just His Own

The hospital where Donald Trump’s personal physician works at tweeted out a statement earlier tonight about how his views are his own.

The Tweet:

Lenox Hill Hospital @lenoxhill

Dr. Bornstein is speaking on behalf of his patient and his views and opinions are his own.
6:11 PM - 14 Dec 2015

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:49:04am

re: #48 Belafon

I’ve had software developers tell me the cards they received made a difference. If you can puncture that group, you can get through anyone.

They do make an impact. Presentation is important.

The War TARDIS Dec 15, 2015 • 8:49:20am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

Man, you don’t often see one city smacking another in the US this publicly.

But, NYC>LA and Chicago>Los Angeles.

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 8:51:41am

Cool. Bet this will piss off more than a few people.

Conway woman vows to wear hijab to support Muslim women in America

“My goal is support American Muslim women who may be facing fear and discourtesy, discrimination and support of religious freedom of expression,” Allen said. “I’m not usually a big statement-maker but I was moved in a negative way by the xenophobic comments that are coming down the pike.”

lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 8:51:42am

re: #51 The War TARDIS

Considering how often schools get threats made against them, which is pretty much daily, it is odd that NYC got the same threat made, and recognized it as such, while the LA officials thought it sufficient to close the schools.

Same info, completely different reaction.

The War TARDIS Dec 15, 2015 • 8:53:57am

re: #53 lawhawk

East Coast v. West Coast thing.

I’ve noticed the East Coast to be a bit tougher than the West.

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:55:15am

Kid came home from college last night (for the season). He is still in bed. Dogs keep bugging him to get up. teehee

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 8:55:29am

I see facial hair on this guy…

This Fox contributor says growing facial hair means you are acting like a terrorist: https://t.co/lTSzGjpIfm pic.twitter.com/FoqhqPpVIZ

— Media Matters (@mmfa) December 15, 2015

Thrazidun Dec 15, 2015 • 8:56:15am

re: #5 b.d.

It’s not worth the risk. I am sure they probably don’t think it is a credible threat but with all those kids there, not worth risking it. They did the right thing.

Plus the kids get a day off!! Nothing wrong with that.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 8:57:04am

re: #57 Thrazidun

Lord knows they won’t be getting any snow days this winter.

Shiplord Kirel Dec 15, 2015 • 8:57:36am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“You mean all I gotta do is send an anonymous mail and we all get the day off school?”

We may see dozens of clueless youngsters rounded up and tossed in juvie before the day is out.
“Okay, kid, consider: E-mail from known ISIS account in occupied Syria and email from your account at Little Hope Middle School. One of these things is not like the other.”

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 8:57:39am

re: #57 Thrazidun

It’s not worth the risk. I am sure they probably don’t think it is a credible threat but with all those kids there, not worth risking it. They did the right thing.

Plus the kids get a day off!! Nothing wrong with that.

Unless you are a single working parent on a tight budget and now have to on short notice find some place safe to put your kid(s) for the day. Another day of day care can blow a budget.

lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 8:57:48am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Santa Claus as terrorist? He comes down chimneys unannounced and leaves packages all around. /

Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 8:57:52am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see facial hair on this guy…

Well, this makes it easy for me, then. A hijab would have clashed with my beard. Instead, I can just keep doing what I normally do. If someone can tell me the Arabic word for beard, I’ll call it that just to scare people.

Mike Lamb Dec 15, 2015 • 8:58:04am

re: #17 b.d.

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Bullshit. You’re creating that kind of disruption over something that isn’t serious?

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 8:58:19am

ISS docking in about 24 minutes.

The #Soyuz has almost caught up w/ @Space_Station, and is expected to dock around 12:24pm ET https://t.co/rUrtFCMVVq https://t.co/HqJDsxI064

— NASA (@NASA) December 15, 2015

Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 8:59:11am

re: #64 Bubblehead II

ISS docking in about 24 minutes.

DAESH IN SPACE?!!!

Oh, never mind.

Dr. Matt Dec 15, 2015 • 8:59:12am

re: #22 ObserverArt

You know, reading some of the comments in the last thread and I remember Dark_Falcon saying Saturday that Barack Obama was untrustworthy as a President. And I chuckle. Why? Because the whole Republican Party is untrustworthy and frankly a joke.

The GOP claim President Obama is “untrustworthy” because he has a “D” after his name. Face it, this country is in a much better place today than it was 7 years ago. His policies haven’t adversely affected GOP voters or the American people as a whole. Unlike the GOP, President Obama doesn’t alienate the public. President Obama criticizes republican politicians, but doesn’t take swipes at all conservative voters unlike the GOP who belittle liberals and progressives on a daily basis. Anyone that actually supports, defends, and votes for the GOP is untrustworthy because they are fooling themselves in believing republicans are a better choice.

I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 9:00:12am

Feral Girl is now yelling at the Kid to get out of bed!

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Eventual Carrion Dec 15, 2015 • 9:01:22am

re: #36 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Well his doctor says Trump is in Exceptional health and stamina!

And I am sure he could stop a bullet, once.

The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 9:02:45am

HURR HURR THEY KNOW HOW TO BEAT PEOPLE UP & LEAVE NO MARKS!!!1!!! CLASSY!!!11!!!

Yes, media, you’re right: Trump rallies, with their zero significant injuries, are a threat to world peace. https://t.co/xlgFo2FS4G

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) December 15, 2015

BeachDem Dec 15, 2015 • 9:03:11am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see facial hair on this guy…

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Quick, somebody question Paul Ryan!

nines09 Dec 15, 2015 • 9:03:19am

When I was earning my living driving a large car, I was at a pickup in Elkhart Indiana at a vinyl extrusion factory. I backhauled there almost weekly and knew the receivers and lower management guys well. One day I’m there on the dock and all the people on the lines are walking out, and the head receiver comes over to me and says “Come with me and” and the rest I didn’t pick up. I asked where we were going and he said he was told to walk around and look for anything out of the ordinary because someone phoned in a bomb threat. I thanked him for his consideration of me knowing what a bomb would look like. I asked him if we got clues, as in is it bigger than a bread box. We both figured it was bogus, and some disgruntled former employee or jilted lover just wanted to ride by and see a hundred people standing in 15 degree windy weather. After about 45 minutes everything went back to normal. Different times. I recall quite a few bomb threats out around Bristol, Middlebury and Elkhart Indiana back in the mid 90’s. No big deal, and I don’t even know what the Sheriff or State Patrol did. Half of them were never even reported in the papers or radio. Happened many times just at that factory and a few others I picked up at.

elizajane Dec 15, 2015 • 9:03:28am

Not to point out the obvious, but it is final exams week - at least in the public schools where I live in California. ‘Tis the season for desperate attempts to close down the school. Did they weigh in this fact when assessing the credibility of the threats?

Jenner7 Dec 15, 2015 • 9:04:27am

TBH it’s easier to imagine a liberal spectator yelling “sieg hell” to troll than a conservative yelling it for real. https://t.co/0aODrn3YU9

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) December 15, 2015

What the fuck?

lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 9:04:49am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

The Nuremberg Rallies didn’t kill or injure people either, but the content had a lasting effect.

Considering the fascist nature of Trump’s speeches, and the intent of his followers, this isn’t a leap into Godwin.

Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 9:05:51am

re: #74 Jenner7

Sounds like a good time to show off the Confederate and NAZI pictures from demonstrations earlier this year.

ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:06:12am

re: #42 Belafon

I don’t know if you saw my note yesterday about your job interview. If you have some names, send thank you cards to them. Get some small cards with envelops and write a note about how you enjoyed the interviews. If you can remember a small personal detail, write it for each one. Send them to the company.

Yes I did. Thanks for the advice.

BeachDem Dec 15, 2015 • 9:07:08am

re: #74 Jenner7

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What the fuck?

Translation: Every time we say “both sides do it” even when one side doesn’t, an MBF gets wings, or something…

nines09 Dec 15, 2015 • 9:07:58am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

So Santa…….And Jesus……. I suspect he’s against everything. It just changes from minute to minute.

Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 9:08:49am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR THEY KNOW HOW TO BEAT PEOPLE UP & LEAVE NO MARKS!!!1!!! CLASSY!!!11!!!

I don’t know how someone can be this butt-hurt about everything on a daily basis.

The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 9:10:53am

re: #80 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I don’t know how someone can be this butt-hurt about everything on a daily basis.

I’m guessing he takes the submissive position when Milo does sex to him.

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Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:13:37am

40 meters.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:14:17am

re: #74 Jenner7

I would kind of agree with Weigel. The Sieg Heil is more likely to be a troll.

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:14:29am

30 meters.

lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 9:15:43am

re: #84 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Don’t know, given that the neo Nazis, white supremacists, and general haters are flocking to him in droves. And Trump goes out of his way to cite/tweet/retweet racists and white supremacists.

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:15:59am

25 meters. Thrusters firing.

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:17:36am

Docking aborted. Switching to manual

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:18:42am

Range now 140 meters. Manual control verified.

blueraven Dec 15, 2015 • 9:18:49am

re: #84 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I would kind of agree with Weigel. The Sieg Heil is more likely to be a troll.

I think he was insinuating someone said it to the Trump crowd as an insult. He questions why a white supremacist would “cartoonishly” out himself. But he is certainly aware of the appeal and support of Trump from White Supremacists.

Maybe…maybe not.

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 9:19:17am

UPDATE: E-mail threat to L.A. schools was sent to a board member from an IP address in Frankfurt, Germany: school district spokesperson

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) December 15, 2015

Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 9:19:55am

re: #88 Bubblehead II

#SoyuzTMA19M backing away to go for manual docking. #Principia pic.twitter.com/ZCf8RngUq7

— ESA Operations (@esaoperations) December 15, 2015

ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:21:17am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR THEY KNOW HOW TO BEAT PEOPLE UP & LEAVE NO MARKS!!!1!!! CLASSY!!!11!!!

Ben Shapiro ✔ @benshapiro

Yes, media, you’re right: Trump rallies, with their zero significant injuries, are a threat to world peace. dailywire.com …

11:56 AM - 15 Dec 2015

I wonder what Benny considers a significant injury? Would that be anything less than a stay in an I.R. unit or just short of death?

Can you imagine having to be around that asshole in a social setting of any kind? He probably spouts the same shit he tweets to everyone around him.

SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:21:37am

re: #86 lawhawk

I just think the “Light the mother** on fire” is more likely to come from a supporter than the Sieg Heil. Most Trump supporters deny that they have a connection to Nazis or fascism, I believe they think that when they see that in the media it’s just hyperbole, or the left wing being the left wing.

Dr. Matt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:21:37am

re: #74 Jenner7

TBH it’s easier to imagine a liberal spectator yelling “sieg hell” to troll than a conservative yelling it for real. t.co
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) December 15, 2015

Translation: Librul Plant™!!!

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:22:01am

50 meters.

Not a Sparkly Vampire Dec 15, 2015 • 9:22:20am

re: #89 Bubblehead II

Range now 140 meters. Manual control verified.

Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow!

ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:22:50am

re: #84 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I would kind of agree with Weigel. The Sieg Heil is more likely to be a troll.

What? Sounds like excuse making to me.

Charles Johnson Dec 15, 2015 • 9:23:13am

Yep, Chuck and his hapless lawyer apparently missed the Dec. 14 deadline for responding to Gawker. Are they actually going to just try to walk away from their own lawsuit?

100

Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:23:57am

Lots of static on the radio.

101

It's on his hat! Dec 15, 2015 • 9:24:18am

re: #90 blueraven

I think he was insinuating someone said it to the Trump crowd as an insult. He questions why a white supremacist would “cartoonishly” out himself. But he is certainly aware of the appeal and support of Trump from White Supremacists.

Maybe…maybe not.

It’s really rather unimportant whether or not the “Sieg Heil” was uttered by a troll, an actual white supremacist, or something else. What matters is the Trump campaign’s reaction to such activity at rallies like this, and so far, it’s ranged from silent consent to encouragement. That’s the problem.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 9:24:26am

Ok, this is kewl sci-fi turned into reality stuff:
How technology helps nurses start IVs right the first time

My veins are difficult to puncture. Inevitably, an old, white-haired RN must be called into stick me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 9:25:08am

#SoyuzTMA19M begins another flyaround trying to re-align for docking pic.twitter.com/24Cy7sMK5t

— Anatoly Zak (@RussianSpaceWeb) December 15, 2015

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:25:08am

re: #98 ObserverArt

Hell, I would shout “Sieg Heil” if I were there, but Republicans don’t usually campaign in PA, and Donald Trump would never set foot here. Remember, protesters are showing up at the rallies, so it isn’t a stretch that they would troll the crowd.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 9:25:42am

bbl

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 9:25:49am

Wow such Presidential very leadership so class wow

I won every debate so far according to all debate polls including @DRUDGE_REPORT, @TIME @Slate and more. Too bad dopey @megynkelly lies!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 15, 2015

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:27:28am

re: #94 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I just think the “Light the mother** on fire” is more likely to come from a supporter than the Sieg Heil. Most Trump supporters deny that they have a connection to Nazis or fascism, I believe they think that when they see that in the media it’s just hyperbole, or the left wing being the left wing.

Yeah. That is why there have been links put up by Charles from crazy ass Neo-Nazi and White supremacists groups loving Trump so much. Do you think those people would love to go to a Trump event and act out? Do you think Trump would have his people around in the crowd looking for them and asking them to leave? Or, would he be fine with just a bit more passion from his passionate supporters.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:27:49am

re: #101 It’s on his hat!

I think “Burn the mother f-r” is more important. Sieg Heil might or might ot be genuine (I already stated my belief it was insincere) but whoever hollered the “burn…” meant it.

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Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 9:28:06am

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

Wow such Presidential very leadership so class wow

Remember when Republicans hated poll-driven politicians.

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lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 9:28:19am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Yep, Chuck and his hapless lawyer apparently missed the Dec. 14 deadline for responding to Gawker. Are they actually going to just try to walk away from their own lawsuit?

Missing deadlines (either the December 4 or 14th, depending on whether you buy into his claim that the deadline on record was wrong)? The court’s not going to be happy about that. But it does make it easier for the court to take action against Chucky. It wont be pretty.

Once again, the guy who claims to be the smartest one in the room shows himself to be anything but.

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Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:29:31am

Range <20 meters

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allegro Dec 15, 2015 • 9:30:29am

re: #84 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I would kind of agree with Weigel. The Sieg Heil is more likely to be a troll.

I don’t know his specific context, but I did exactly that last weekend though it was in answer to a troll of sorts. A right leaning friend who insists Trump is a fool who does not represent the GOP in spite of all evidence to the contrary said he “had a point” WRT “the Muslims”. He then started on Muslim hate that I put a quck stop to with “sieg heil.” Pissed him off big but was effective.

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Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 9:30:40am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Yep, Chuck and his hapless lawyer apparently missed the Dec. 14 deadline for responding to Gawker. Are they actually going to just try to walk away from their own lawsuit?

They seem to have done much more than that. Chuck’s attempting to remove himself from life to avoid the consequences of what he’s started.

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BeachDem Dec 15, 2015 • 9:30:59am

Ah, those poor delicate Republican grassroots flowers:

The RNC has been pushing networks to partner with conservative media outlets for the debates in order “to make sure the concerns of grassroots Republicans are addressed.”

Tonight’s debate is no exception, with CNN including Salem Radio commentator Hugh Hewitt among the panelists. Hewitt, who served as an official in the Reagan administration, was a panelist for CNN’s September debate, and is scheduled to be part of the third CNN debate in March.

In addition, NBC had partnered with National Review and ABC with the conservative IJ Review. Fox News, whose conservative credentials are well established, does not have a partner and reportedly “fought the RNC’s partner requirement and ultimately prevailed.”

mediamatters.org

The RNC issues demands, and the feckless “liberal” media complies. Spit.

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Romantic Heretic Dec 15, 2015 • 9:31:02am

My first thought on reading hearing about this?

False flag.

Some wingnut called the threat in and is now spreading Evuhl Muzlems! all over the echo chamber.

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:31:29am

re: #104 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Hell, I would shout “Sieg Heil” if I were there, but Republicans don’t usually campaign in PA, and Donald Trump would never set foot here. Remember, protesters are showing up at the rallies, so it isn’t a stretch that they would troll the crowd.

Would you be surprised if you did do that and some in the crowd gave you an “attaboy?”

I know some idiots that have messed in some of the Aryian Nation BS back in the early 90s. They didn’t actually look like what many people think they would look like and they sure as hell didn’t make it known in public. They are snakes and reside under rocks out of the light.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 9:31:37am

Crew instructed to approach to 3m then station keep. #SoyuzTMA19M Live: https://t.co/mIhuOugqcL pic.twitter.com/fZkSo0iVQP

— AmericaSpace (@AmericaSpace) December 15, 2015

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Dec 15, 2015 • 9:32:24am

re: #115 Romantic Heretic

My first thought on reading hearing about this?

False flag.

Some wingnut called the threat in and is now spreading Evuhl Muzlems! all over the echo chamber.

Honestly, I am waiting for that to happen. Some wingnut who thinks we just don’t take the threat seriously phoning in a threat or actually trying to attack (insert target here) and blame it on muslims.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood Dec 15, 2015 • 9:33:00am

ok, one more

have a great day all

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 9:33:00am

Ben that would be…ISRAEL

Planned Parenthood Fantasizes About ‘A Magical Land Where Abortions…Are Free and Plentiful’ https://t.co/MwUo5GSSNe @benshapiro

— The Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) December 15, 2015

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Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:34:09am

contact confirmed.

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Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:34:37am

capture also confirmed.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 9:35:45am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Yep, Chuck and his hapless lawyer apparently missed the Dec. 14 deadline for responding to Gawker. Are they actually going to just try to walk away from their own lawsuit?

Isn’t CCJ’s lawyer named CCJ?

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De Kolta Chair Dec 15, 2015 • 9:35:47am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

If Trump had been at the Bataclan theatre, you just know he’d have been the only one there who wasn’t in on the joke behind the band’s name.

“Oh man, this is gonna be great!!! Crank it up to twelve!!! Death metal rules!!! Uh … WTF??!!”

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:36:11am

re: #107 ObserverArt

I think the supremacists are usually more interested in white power than they are in being Nazis. I’m not saying a Trump supporter wouldn’t shout it, just that I don’t think Dave Weigel was out of line with his tweet. My gut feeling is that protesters or more inclined to think “Nazi” than the white power people. I also feel that that white supremacists are also more likely to disguise their feelings in public. They may wave a confederate flag in public to blend in with rednecks but shouting Sieg Heil sort of makes them stand out. They also know that it doesn’t help their boy Trump politically.

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Dr. Matt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:36:44am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Yep, Chuck and his hapless lawyer apparently missed the Dec. 14 deadline for responding to Gawker. Are they actually going to just try to walk away from their own lawsuit?

I’ll put my conspiracy theory hat on: He’s going to claim his “disappearance” is the reason why he missed the deadline, i.e., medical emergency, family crisis, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 9:37:47am

re: #126 Dr. Matt

I’ll put my conspiracy theory hat on: He’s going to claim his “disappearance” is the reason why he missed the deadline, i.e., medical emergency, family crisis, etc.

He’s faking his own death.

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:38:32am

re: #126 Dr. Matt

I’ll put my conspiracy theory hat on: He’s going to claim his “disappearance” is the reason why he missed the deadline, i.e., medical emergency, family crisis, etc.

He had to leave the country quickly and couldn’t get the filing in. /

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CuriousLurker Dec 15, 2015 • 9:39:01am

OFFS

For the love of God please pay attention to me https://t.co/1OEPz6dVsD

— elias isquith (@eliasisquith) December 15, 2015

Fiorina tells dog: “Obama ate one of your cousins;” WATCH: https://t.co/XIAdGo8zYj pic.twitter.com/lsD5ZRbDQc

— The Hill (@thehill) December 15, 2015

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blueraven Dec 15, 2015 • 9:40:55am

re: #129 CuriousLurker

OFFS

[Embedded content]

Her campaign has, literally, gone to the dogs.

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Bubblehead II Dec 15, 2015 • 9:40:57am

Hard dock confirmed.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 9:41:06am

[beat to the Tweet]

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BeachDem Dec 15, 2015 • 9:41:31am

re: #94 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Most Trump supporters deny that they have a connection to Nazis or fascism,

Except for, you know, his actual NeoNazi supporters.

huffingtonpost.com
nydailynews.com
news.yahoo.com

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:42:07am

re: #129 CuriousLurker

OFFS

[Embedded content]

Take this as a joke…not as a wish. I just thought of it when I saw your comment.

Nick Lowe - “Marie Provost” (Official Audio)

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makeitstop Dec 15, 2015 • 9:42:38am

re: #129 CuriousLurker

OFFS

[Embedded content]

My wife sent me that link. Talk about fail…

You can’t ‘humanize’ someone who is devoid of humanity.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:44:57am

re: #116 ObserverArt

Would you be surprised if you did do that and some in the crowd gave you an “attaboy?”

I know some idiots that have messed in some of the Aryian Nation BS back in the early 90s. They didn’t actually look like what many people think they would look like and they sure as hell didn’t make it known in public. They are snakes and reside under rocks out of the light.

I actually would be surprised. First, I think people would be looking around to see who said it. But I feel most Trump supporters reject any comparison to Nazis. They truly believe that they are just protecting America from Muslims. (Again, I think most supporters are like this, far more than the extreme white power people). As I see it, most Trumpaholics feel that the Nazi comparison are a left wing (main stream media) fabrication. Finally, white supremacists are generally more coy in public then they are online. They’ll wave rebel flags to try to blend in with your average redneck, but only the most hardcore ones really wave their Nazi shit in public.

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De Kolta Chair Dec 15, 2015 • 9:45:32am

re: #129 CuriousLurker

OFFS

“Humorous” ads worked out so well for Linda McMahon’s last senate bid (and her hubby’s bank account). ////

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allegro Dec 15, 2015 • 9:45:34am

re: #129 CuriousLurker

OFFS

[Embedded content]

When I think there is no possible way they could be any more offensive…

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CuriousLurker Dec 15, 2015 • 9:46:04am

re: #130 blueraven

re: #134 ObserverArt

re: #135 makeitstop

I swear it’s like they never developed emotionally past 6th or 7th grade.

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:47:40am

re: #136 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I actually would be surprised. First, I think people would be looking around to see who said it. But I feel most Trump supporters reject any comparison to Nazis. They truly believe that they are just protecting America from Muslims. (Again, I think most supporters are like this, far more than the extreme white power people). As I see it, most Trumpaholics feel that the Nazi comparison are a left wing (main stream media) fabrication. Finally, white supremacists are generally more coy in public then they are online. They’ll wave rebel flags to try to blend in with your average redneck, but only the most hardcore ones really wave their Nazi shit in public.

Steve, I notice you keep saying most. Isn’t that an admittance there could be some? It only takes one match to start a fire.

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De Kolta Chair Dec 15, 2015 • 9:48:29am

re: #134 ObserverArt

Take this as a joke…not as a wish. I just thought of it when I saw your comment.

[Embedded content]

Video

(^^)b for the Nick Lowe reference.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:50:32am

re: #94 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Most Trump supporters deny that they have a connection to Nazis or fascism

re: #133 BeachDem

Except for, you know, his actual NeoNazi supporters.

huffingtonpost.com
nydailynews.com
news.yahoo.com

I’m pretty sure I used the word “most” instead of “all”. (I did, I just checked) I KNOW he has actual Nazi supporters, but his poll numbers are too high for all of them to be Nazis. If you actually talk to his supporters, you’ll hear the thinks I said. I haven’t met any supporters that are actually Nazis, everyone I met just thinks he’s the guy to save America from Muslims and immigrants. They think that comparing him to Nazis is BS. At least that’s coming from the supporters I meet. Not the best sample size, but I think most supporters are like that.

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Dr. Matt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:51:55am

re: #129 CuriousLurker

OFFS

Carly who? Isn’t she back at the kiddie table today?

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makeitstop Dec 15, 2015 • 9:52:21am

I guess nobody in Trump’s crowd will wake up to how completely fucked up the whole scene is until somebody gets dead.

And maybe not even then.

And no, the ‘Good Germans’ justification cuts zero fucking ice with me.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:53:45am

re: #140 ObserverArt

Steve, I notice you keep saying most. Isn’t that an admittance there could be some? It only takes one match to start a fire.

Of course it’s an admission it could be some. I don’t think I can be much more clear than that. I was talking about Weigel’s tweet, where he said in his opinion the Sieg Heil shoutout was more likely a troll.
Neither he nor I say it’s a certainty. That’s why I’ve been using the word “most” From your responses it seems that you believe that all Trump supporters are Nazis. I think (and I’ve said it repeatedly) that Nazis are a small component of Trump supporters.

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:55:10am

re: #142 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m pretty sure I used the word “most” instead of “all”. (I did, I just checked) I KNOW he has actual Nazi supporters, but his poll numbers are too high for all of them to be Nazis. If you actually talk to his supporters, you’ll hear the thinks I said. I haven’t met any supporters that are actually Nazis, everyone I met just thinks he’s the guy to save America from Muslims and immigrants. They think that comparing him to Nazis is BS. At least that’s coming from the supporters I meet. Not the best sample size, but I think most supporters are like that.

How many were said to have yelled Sieg Heil anyway? One.

And no one said they were ‘all’ nazis.

You play the game Twister with the best.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 9:55:55am

Happy Holidays: US Rep Andy Barr, R-Lex, co-sponsors resolution to “strongly disapprove” of War on Christmas. https://t.co/wZ87PWa47F ^JC

— Bluegrass Politics (@BGPolitics) December 15, 2015

Link lists all of the co-sponsors.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:56:43am

re: #146 ObserverArt

How many were said to have yelled Sieg Heil anyway? One.

And no one said they were ‘all’ nazis.

You play the game Twister with the best.

What the hell’s the matter with you? All I’m saying is I agree with Weigel that it was more likely to be a troll then a real Nazi. Who’s playing Twister?

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Barefoot Grin Dec 15, 2015 • 9:57:17am

re: #7 KGxvi

How many schools still have lockers? Granted, I was in Orange County but my junior high did away with lockers in 90 (before I started), and my high school dropped them in 94. They claimed it was a safety and population issue.

Probably a health issue, too. Each year I found numerous old uneaten sandwiches and banana peels in the bottom of my locker on the last day of school.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 9:57:38am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think it’s great that KY has solved all its problems and is moving on to the War on Christmas.

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CuriousLurker Dec 15, 2015 • 9:57:45am

re: #136 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I actually would be surprised. First, I think people would be looking around to see who said it. But I feel most Trump supporters reject any comparison to Nazis. They truly believe that they are just protecting America from Muslims. (Again, I think most supporters are like this, far more than the extreme white power people). As I see it, most Trumpaholics feel that the Nazi comparison are a left wing (main stream media) fabrication. Finally, white supremacists are generally more coy in public then they are online. They’ll wave rebel flags to try to blend in with your average redneck, but only the most hardcore ones really wave their Nazi shit in public.

You may very well be right, though I’m not sure how you came to your conclusion about what they truly do or don’t believe. That said, from where I’m sitting (as the direct target of their hatred & fear) it doesn’t really matter because doesn’t make the trajectory they’re on any less dangerous. For me, personally. For ALL Muslims in America this is a very personal, real, and immediate threat, not some abstract mental exercise or some odd behavior we can analyze & tut-tut over from a safe distance

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 9:58:30am

re: #145 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Of course it’s an admission it could be some. I don’t think I can be much more clear than that. I was talking about Weigel’s tweet, where he said in his opinion the Sieg Heil shoutout was more likely a troll.
Neither he nor I say it’s a certainty. That’s why I’ve been using the word “most” From your responses it seems that you believe that all Trump supporters are Nazis. I think (and I’ve said it repeatedly) that Nazis are a small component of Trump supporters.

That’s it. I’m done with it. Nowhere did I imply that. Go back and read my comments.

Again. You play twist it until it becomes nothing in your head. As I said earlier, you are making excuses for it…even if it was a troll.

Sheesh. I need to go to the bank and do some shopping anyway. Later!

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 9:59:49am

re: #150 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I think it’s great that KY has solved all its problems and is moving on to the War on Christmas.

It’s not just Kentucky and Andy Barr wasn’t one of the original co-sponsors.

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Great White Snark Dec 15, 2015 • 9:59:52am

I know people are scared of Star Wars spoilers but I don’t get why… pic.twitter.com/AuA6cdk3e3

— Philip DeFranco (@PhillyD) December 15, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:00:29am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Link lists all of the co-sponsors.

He disapproves of the supposed War on Christmas or he disapproves of those who claim there is War on Christmas? I sense the former but just want to be clear about the whole War on Christmas thing.

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BeachDem Dec 15, 2015 • 10:01:59am

re: #142 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m pretty sure I used the word “most” instead of “all”. (I did, I just checked) I KNOW he has actual Nazi supporters, but his poll numbers are too high for all of them to be Nazis. If you actually talk to his supporters, you’ll hear the thinks I said. I haven’t met any supporters that are actually Nazis, everyone I met just thinks he’s the guy to save America from Muslims and immigrants. They think that comparing him to Nazis is BS. At least that’s coming from the supporters I meet. Not the best sample size, but I think most supporters are like that.

I quoted your “most” line. Never said all of his supporters are Nazis. Just pointing out that he has enough openly Nazi and white supremacist support to make it just as likely that the “sieg heil” came from a supporter rather than a plant.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 10:02:54am

re: #151 CuriousLurker

I base my feeling about Trump supporters on the ones I meet. Haven’t met a dyed in the wool Nazi yet, but the ones I meet think he’s the best guy to save Amerika from the Muslims and immigrants. I haven’t always talked Nazi with them but the times I have they think that’s just the media trying to make Trump look bad. Also, with his high numbers, they have to include far more people that the ones who are actually Nazis (or Klansmen, or anything like that).

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 10:02:59am

WATCH LIVE: White House @PressSec addresses #LAUSD threat https://t.co/WRlSXYX0by pic.twitter.com/2epXcFdEJQ

— CBS News (@CBSNews) December 15, 2015

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Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 10:03:20am

How many people have died in this War on Christmas? How many have been displaced from their homes? Where are the refugees going, and who will feed them? Hopefully, they’re not coming to America, because we won’t take care of them.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 10:04:42am

re: #152 ObserverArt

What excuse did I make for it?

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De Kolta Chair Dec 15, 2015 • 10:05:10am

NY Times published article, “How Trump Could Win.” Also, Amazon has a show about after he wins, “The Man in the High Castle.”

— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) December 15, 2015

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ObserverArt Dec 15, 2015 • 10:05:53am

re: #148 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

What the hell’s the matter with you? All I’m saying is I agree with Weigel that it was more likely to be a troll then a real Nazi. Who’s playing Twister?

There is not a damn thing wrong with me. You have completely missed the points I was making. I am saying the atmosphere at a Trump ‘show’ are ripe for a comment to be made. Therefore in my opinion it could easily be correct that it did happen as much as it didn’t. Until someone finds the guy that yelled it and gets the facts we do not know.

And I am not trying to piss you off. I was teasing you about twisting my points. Okay?

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Jenner7 Dec 15, 2015 • 10:06:24am

cc @marcorubio https://t.co/KCBsTQRYVn

— Zeddonymous (@ZeddRebel) December 15, 2015

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Belafon Dec 15, 2015 • 10:06:40am

re: #159 Belafon

I will only take non-Christian refugees in the War on Christmas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:06:59am

re: #155 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

He disapproves of the supposed War on Christmas or he disapproves of those who claim there is War on Christmas? I sense the former but just want to be clear about the whole War on Christmas thing.

RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the symbols and traditions of Christmas should be protected for use by those who celebrate Christmas.

Whereas Christmas is a national holiday celebrated on December 25; and

Whereas the Framers intended that the First Amendment of the Constitution, in prohibiting the establishment of religion, would not prohibit any mention of religion or reference to God in civic dialog: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

(1) recognizes the importance of the symbols and traditions of Christmas;

(2) strongly disapproves of attempts to ban references to Christmas; and

(3) expresses support for the use of these symbols and traditions by those who celebrate Christmas.

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I Would Prefer Not To Dec 15, 2015 • 10:10:46am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

Supid. Stupid. Stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:11:05am

If intelligence created this guy, it must have been as a party trick late Saturday night after tequila shots https://t.co/gDJweefwUo

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) December 15, 2015

@BetsyKardos @Stonekettle if u think, u would know u cant claim anything include know what is coherent, w/o being intelligently created

— v. HELENO HENZO (@THISSBRAVA) December 15, 2015

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 10:11:24am

re: #162 ObserverArt

I was replying to more than one lizard over the course of the discussion, and I felt they were overstating his level of support from Nazis. I think that given the presence of protesters at his rallies, my impression of his supporters, and the fact that many white supremacists are more coy in public than they are online, I was inclined to agree with Weigel that it was more likely a troll than a real Nazi. That was all.

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CuriousLurker Dec 15, 2015 • 10:12:58am

re: #157 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m going to assume that you’ve only met a tiny fraction of Trump supporters, unless your job or social life puts you in a position to meet hundreds or thousands of them (or however many one would need to meet & speak with to have a somewhat accurate sampling). In any event, it doesn’t change what I said—maybe it even makes it worse because that would mean they’re completely unaware of the slippery slope they’re on.

I’m pretty sure those thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of people that made up cheering, adoring crowds Hitler addressed didn’t think they were bad people, they just wanted to save the homeland from the Jewish, Roma, gay, etc. menace.

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 10:15:03am

*headdesk*

GOP Rep on Fox: ISIS Poses ‘Existential Threat’ to U.S., But So Might Obama

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:15:57am

I notice that the “Sieg Heil” guy wasn’t wrestled to the floor and escorted from the rally.

Just sayin’

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FormerDirtDart Dec 15, 2015 • 10:16:25am

Carson Outlines Plan to Protect America; Calls for Declaration of War Against ISIS

Today, I released my plan to defeat #ISIS & protect the homeland. Read my “Seven Steps to a Safer America” here: https://t.co/ey4UfHSvOe

— Dr. Ben Carson (@RealBenCarson) December 15, 2015

The plan calls for the following actions to be taken.

1. Congress should immediately issue a formal declaration of war on the Islamic State, which is also known as ISIL or ISIS.

2. The United States should lead the immediate formation of - and provide substantial advisory, financial and military support to - a military coalition in the Middle East to wage war against ISIS. Such a regional coalition would consist of countries such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

3. The United States should urge its allies and partners in the Middle East to engage in massive recruitment and training of Sunni Syrian men based in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf and of Sunni Syrian male refugees in Jordan - to establish a military force to destroy ISIS and to establish a protection zone for the victims of the terrorist state.

4. The United States should deploy its military resources and work with moderate Arab nations - as well as extend strategic support to Kurdish, Christian and Sunni tribes in the free al-Hasakah Province in northeast Syria - to establish a refugee safe zone in the Province. All refugees should be directed to that free area and to other liberated areas later, and be put under international protection.

5. Congress should immediately establish a war-time emergency visa and immigration policy; establish an emergency inter-agency task force to review all visa and immigration policies; and limit visitor visas to three months with mandatory check-ins for extensions no longer than three months.

6. President Barack Obama and Congress should immediately deploy the National Guard and military troops to patrol the U.S. southern border as well as designated spots along the northern border.

7. The Department of State should designate the Muslim Brotherhood and other organizations that propagate or support Islamic terrorism as terrorist organizations, and fully investigate the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and a supporter of terrorism.

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CuriousLurker Dec 15, 2015 • 10:19:39am

Anyway, I’m not really in the mood for this shit today and I have work to do so…

Later, lizards.

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 15, 2015 • 10:19:43am

re: #172 FormerDirtDart

Carson Outlines Plan to Protect America; Calls for Declaration of War Against ISIS

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Carson calling for big government solutions.

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 10:20:13am

re: #172 FormerDirtDart

I hope Dr. Benadryl can explain how we’re supposed to officially declare war against a stateless terrorist group.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:20:55am

re: #175 Lidane

I hope Dr. Benadryl can explain how we’re supposed to officially declare war against at stateless terrorist group.

It’ll be like the War on Christmas, but reverse.

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De Kolta Chair Dec 15, 2015 • 10:21:11am

Come to think of it, Carly Fiorini is an actual feminazi.

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Big Beautiful Door Dec 15, 2015 • 10:21:32am

re: #175 Lidane

I hope Dr. Benadryl can explain how we’re supposed to officially declare war against a stateless terrorist group.

Well the thing about ISIS is that they claim they have formed a state, so Carson apparently is going to officially recognize its existence as a state.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 10:22:03am

re: #169 CuriousLurker

I agree that these people know know they’re playing with fire. In addition to the supporters I meet, I have also seen the videos of them on tv. If there were hard core Nazis, you can bet they would be up front and center and featured on the broadcast. I’m not denying their existence, but I’m arguing that most of them are people who think we’re being overrun and need a savior.

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FormerDirtDart Dec 15, 2015 • 10:26:25am

re: #175 Lidane

I hope Dr. Benadryl can explain how we’re supposed to officially declare war against a stateless terrorist group.

I just waiting for the Lesser Paul to follow daddy Ron’s playbook, and call for the issuance of Letters of Marque and Reprisal against the ISIL leadership

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 10:26:41am

re: #175 Lidane

Love the Dr. Benadryl! Actually Congress can declare that a state of war exists, and it doesn’t really have to be precise. It would never pass, but that’s another story. Besides, declaring war is so 1940s.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Dec 15, 2015 • 10:28:54am

I like the border patrol. I just can’t tell you how many terrorists entered the country from the south. No, I really can’t tell you but there AREN’T ANY.

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lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 10:30:15am

re: #172 FormerDirtDart

Carson Outlines Plan to Protect America; Calls for Declaration of War Against ISIS
The plan calls for the following actions to be taken.

1. Congress should immediately issue a formal declaration of war on the Islamic State, which is also known as ISIL or ISIS.

That’s what the President requested during the SOTU more than 300 days ago, and the GOP led Congress has refused to budge on debating, let alone voting on an AUMF.

2. The United States should lead the immediate formation of - and provide substantial advisory, financial and military support to - a military coalition in the Middle East to wage war against ISIS. Such a regional coalition would consist of countries such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

Already being done. Operation Inherent Resolve.

3. The United States should urge its allies and partners in the Middle East to engage in massive recruitment and training of Sunni Syrian men based in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf and of Sunni Syrian male refugees in Jordan - to establish a military force to destroy ISIS and to establish a protection zone for the victims of the terrorist state.

4. The United States should deploy its military resources and work with moderate Arab nations - as well as extend strategic support to Kurdish, Christian and Sunni tribes in the free al-Hasakah Province in northeast Syria - to establish a refugee safe zone in the Province. All refugees should be directed to that free area and to other liberated areas later, and be put under international protection.

Taking 3 and 4 together, since they are at cross purposes. It also ignores that Daesh also specifically targets Shi’ites. Jordan and other US coalition partners have a force in existence that is meant to go after Daesh. That’d be the respective national military forces operated by each of those nations. Creating a new army from scratch from refugees and those fleeing? Sounds great, except you’d have to vet those to make sure Daesh hasn’t infiltrated (and we’ve seen how trainees have gone on to attack US trainers in both Iraq and Afghanistan). Establishing a military force sounds great, but answerable to whom, and where would this new force operate, given that we’re dealing with Syria (which has a central govt in Assad) and Iraq (which has a national govt in Baghdad and you’re pulling the new army from refugees in any number of nations, including Jordan). Helping the Kurds is likely to tick off Turkey as well, and Turkey’s a NATO member (and has been engaging in exchanging gifts at high velocity with Russia of late).

5. Congress should immediately establish a war-time emergency visa and immigration policy; establish an emergency inter-agency task force to review all visa and immigration policies; and limit visitor visas to three months with mandatory check-ins for extensions no longer than three months.

6. President Barack Obama and Congress should immediately deploy the National Guard and military troops to patrol the U.S. southern border as well as designated spots along the northern border.

Seeing how there’s no evidence that Daesh has infiltrated the US via illegal immigration, where’s the money going to come from to pay for this surge of troops to the US border.

7. The Department of State should designate the Muslim Brotherhood and other organizations that propagate or support Islamic terrorism as terrorist organizations, and fully investigate the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and a supporter of terrorism.
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Ah, the old Gaffney canard. It’s been asked and answered before, but Carson’s banking on Islamophobia to regain some mojo.

The rest of this is a rehashing of platitudes and wishful thinking.

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ipsos Dec 15, 2015 • 10:30:57am

Wow. That was one serious clusterfck of a news conference at LAUSD. Is ANYONE in control there?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:31:48am

Ted Cruz praises birther Frank Gaffney as a “patriot” who “loves this country” while Obama “appeases our enemies” https://t.co/F7BjlH3dz9

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) December 15, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 10:33:42am

SO MENNY PROTESTERS!!!! THEY ARE RUINING ALL TEH RALLEYS!!!!1!!!!

At Trump events, protesters are refining techniques, disrupting more than ever, defining coverage. https://t.co/nA3dXEoqyJ

— Byron York (@ByronYork) December 15, 2015

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BeachDem Dec 15, 2015 • 10:34:35am

Carson, who has struggled to grasp foreign policy intricacies on the campaign trail, posted a peculiar video Tuesday morning saying “I sure hope that we are going to get a lot of questions about foreign affairs and national defense.”

“If so, slam dunk,” Carson said.
talkingpointsmemo.com

Notice he doesn’t say who will be doing the slamming and/or the dunking.
/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 10:35:20am

re: #172 FormerDirtDart

Carson Outlines Plan to Protect America; Calls for Declaration of War Against ISIS

5. Congress should immediately establish a war-time emergency visa and immigration policy; establish an emergency inter-agency task force to review all visa and immigration policies; and limit visitor visas to three months with mandatory check-ins for extensions no longer than three months.

in other words, a Trojan Horse for the Trump Doctrine…

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FormerDirtDart Dec 15, 2015 • 10:36:17am

As if, as a NY Jets fan and natural born NYC native, I didn’t already find reason to despise Brady and think of him as a complete douche…

Tom Brady on Donald Trump: “Donald is a good friend of mine … I support all my friends.” https://t.co/QU265Hsy5T pic.twitter.com/wBMeGf68Rx

— NBC Sports (@NBCSports) December 15, 2015

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Charles Johnson Dec 15, 2015 • 10:36:57am

That’s interesting. Some time in the past few days, Chucky’s HAW made her Facebook page private - visible to friends only. Hmmm.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:37:09am

re: #183 lawhawk

7. The Department of State should designate the Muslim Brotherhood and other organizations that propagate or support Islamic terrorism as terrorist organizations, and fully investigate the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and a supporter of terrorism.

What about Friends of Hamas?

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 10:37:20am

re: #189 FormerDirtDart

Tom Brady: Donald Trump Is ‘Remarkable,’ But Keep Me ‘Out of This Debate’ https://t.co/pX2hcJRDbo pic.twitter.com/igm5gkwl3E

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) December 15, 2015

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Shiplord Kirel Dec 15, 2015 • 10:38:16am

Lubbock conservatives:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:38:20am

re: #186 The Vicious Babushka

SO MENNY PROTESTERS!!!! THEY ARE RUINING ALL TEH RALLEYS!!!!1!!!!

Weren’t wingnuts recently just complaining about how Obama has deeestroyed the Constitution by taking away all thare rites like 1St Amendment?

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Kragar Dec 15, 2015 • 10:40:03am

american democracy in 2015, everyone https://t.co/eZGPhhf92F

— AWonderfulXmasGrimes (@andreagrimes) December 15, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:40:16am

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel

Lubbock conservatives:

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Is Jerry Rogers a parody or a real live person with these actual beliefs (which despite my best efforts I was unable to discern).

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:41:08am

great piece by @jessesingal here: https://t.co/Fg2Xp25UUd pic.twitter.com/Wv5hGep5iq

— Seth D. Michaels (@sethdmichaels) December 15, 2015

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Timothy Watson Dec 15, 2015 • 10:42:01am

I was shoulder-surfing my dad’s Facebook when he was on it the other day and one of his wingnut friends had a stupid fucking meme about how Libya never did anything bad after Reagan bombed them following the 1986 Berlin discotheque bombing.

I guess we’re ignoring the attempted hijacking of Pan-Am Flight 73, the bombing of Pan-Am Flight 103, the bombing of UTA Flight 772, all their terrorist training camps, and their support for the IRA.

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Kryptik Dec 15, 2015 • 10:42:40am

re: #196 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is Jerry Rogers a parody or a real live person with these actual beliefs (which despite my best efforts I was unable to discern).

The very fact that it’s something that had to be questioned shows how crazy things kind of are right now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Dec 15, 2015 • 10:42:48am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

I notice that the “Sieg Heil” guy wasn’t wrestled to the floor and escorted from the rally.

Just sayin’

Clearly a very effective troll.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:43:02am

re: #198 Timothy Watson

I was shoulder-surfing my dad’s Facebook when he was on it the other day and one of his wingnut friends had a stupid fucking meme about how Libya never did anything bad after Reagan bombed them following the 1986 Berlin discotheque bombing.

I guess we’re ignoring the attempted hijacking of Pan-Am Flight 73, the bombing of Pan-Am Flight 103, the bombing of UTA Flight 772, all their terrorist training camps, and their support for the IRA.

Gosh, that’s an oldy but goody RWNJ yarn.

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Alephnaught Dec 15, 2015 • 10:43:18am

See this “seig heil” guy- do we know anything of the context? For example, was he shouting it at that protestor? I know there are some right wing types in the US that like to paint liberals as Nazis, so it could be sarcasm.

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 10:43:57am

Tonight’s debate is going to be a total shit show.

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InfidelOfFreedom Dec 15, 2015 • 10:44:26am

re: #129 CuriousLurker

A photo of Carly and her last remaining supporters.

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thecommodore Dec 15, 2015 • 10:45:01am

*facepalm*

Fiorina tells dog: “Obama ate one of your cousins;” WATCH: https://t.co/XIAdGo8zYj pic.twitter.com/lsD5ZRbDQc
— The Hill (@thehill) December 15, 2015

———-

Curious Lurker beat me to this one, but it is monumental stupidity all the same.

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b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 10:45:57am

re: #205 thecommodore

*facepalm*

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You know who else liked dogs?

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 10:45:59am

Carly Fiorina manages to surround herself with dogs and STILL look like a creepy cat lady. https://t.co/VLaegmHBnV

— Denali Parton (@eclecticbrotha) December 15, 2015

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Timothy Watson Dec 15, 2015 • 10:46:01am

re: #205 thecommodore

*facepalm*

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So, another SMOTI reader running for President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 10:46:12am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

I notice that the “Sieg Heil” guy wasn’t wrestled to the floor and escorted from the rally.

Just sayin’

I assume he was escorted backstage for a private audience…

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FormerDirtDart Dec 15, 2015 • 10:46:48am

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel

Lubbock conservatives:

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HOLY CRAP

It’s like finding a unicorn, or bumping into bigfoot…

I mean you hear talk of “Flat Earthers”, and the title is more often used to define science denying religious fanatics…

But to actual see someone still embracing flat earth theories…

JUST WOW

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Shiplord Kirel Dec 15, 2015 • 10:46:58am

re: #196 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is Jerry Rogers a parody or a real live person with these actual beliefs (which despite my best efforts I was unable to discern).

He’s for real, at least he seriously claims he is trying to persuade people. I suspect that like most conspira-liars he knows perfectly well that his claims are bullshit but enjoys making them just to abuse innocent people and prove that nobody can force him to act like a human being.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:47:15am

re: #206 b.d.

You know who else liked dogs?

//

A baby bear gives a suspicious dog a kiss pic.twitter.com/OVm28miSFl

— Animal Life (@MeetAnimals) December 15, 2015

BEARS!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 10:47:38am

re: #202 Alephnaught

See this “seig heil” guy- do we know anything of the context? For example, was he shouting it at that protestor? I know there are some right wing types in the US that like to paint liberals as Nazis, so it could be sarcasm.

I know that there have been such cases, such as Black Flag fans giving police the Nazi salute and subsequently being branded Nazis. But I think the context of the “Burn him!” shouts and cheers, his intent was pretty clear.

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InfidelOfFreedom Dec 15, 2015 • 10:47:45am

re: #205 thecommodore

Unfortunately, later that day she had to fire those dogs. Gotta stay competitive.

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lawhawk Dec 15, 2015 • 10:47:46am

US says it’s close to an agreement with Cuba restoring regular commercial flights between the countries: https://t.co/lL57Y2l5pI

— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) December 15, 2015

Guess Cruz and Rubio will be going batcrap crazy over this tonight.

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b_sharp Dec 15, 2015 • 10:47:56am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

HOLY CRAP

It’s like finding a unicorn, or bumping into bigfoot…

I mean you hear talk of “Flat Earthers”, and the title is more often used to define science denying religious fanatics…

But to actual see someone still embracing flat earth theories…

JUST WOW

I run across them all the time on Twitter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 10:48:20am

re: #214 UrbanAchiever

Unfortunately, later that day she had to fire those dogs. Gotta stay competitive.

Fire them? She sold them off as food…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:48:48am

re: #215 lawhawk

Guess Cruz and Rubio will be going batcrap crazy over this tonight.

APPEEZEMENT!!!!

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b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 10:48:50am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BEARS!!!

That’s a fake bear!

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FormerDirtDart Dec 15, 2015 • 10:49:16am

Pentagon Names 1st Female Commandant of @WestPoint_USMA ‘s Cadets https://t.co/PIoC9e9WXO pic.twitter.com/Ng3ks7WWTM

— military.com (@Militarydotcom) December 15, 2015

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 10:49:31am

HURR HURR LET’S MAKE A MEMORIAL OF ALL TEH WHITES PEOPLE KILLED BY TEH MESSIKAN ILLEAGLE BROWN RAPISTS!!!!1!!!!!!

#TheRemembranceProject https://t.co/zMW0mkkFEg pic.twitter.com/XHIweo9LWG

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 15, 2015

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:50:08am

re: #204 UrbanAchiever

A photo of Carly and her last remaining supporters.

Would that I had 1000 updings to grant this post.

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 10:50:51am

Carson Calls for Investigation of ‘Supporter of Terrorism’ CAIR in War Against ISIS https://t.co/qAGL48gjT0 pic.twitter.com/fzHaKJKv4O

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) December 15, 2015

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InfidelOfFreedom Dec 15, 2015 • 10:50:56am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

NO WAY!? And they think liberals need to get jobs?

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darthstar Dec 15, 2015 • 10:50:58am

Talk about Return on Investment…

Team Jeb Bush has spent $6.4 million on ads for every 1 point he has lost in the polls https://t.co/2J3RpkJNqt

— Steve Crandall (@JayandSteve) December 15, 2015

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 10:51:33am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR LET’S MAKE A MEMORIAL OF ALL TEH WHITES PEOPLE KILLED BY TEH MESSIKAN ILLEAGLE BROWN RAPISTS!!!!1!!!!!!

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They all look so happy.
Too happy…

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b.d. Dec 15, 2015 • 10:51:41am

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR LET’S MAKE A MEMORIAL OF ALL TEH WHITES PEOPLE KILLED BY TEH MESSIKAN ILLEAGLE BROWN RAPISTS!!!!1!!!!!!

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After the photo-op Donald berated the grieving family members by saying that the victims wouldn’t have died if they were packing.

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The Vicious Babushka Dec 15, 2015 • 10:51:51am

Trump is his own attack ad.

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thecommodore Dec 15, 2015 • 10:52:02am

re: #74 Jenner7

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What the fuck?

Remember that Weigel wrote a fawning apology to Andrew Breitbart on the old “Big Journalism” site over the whole “journolist” thing. He’s had zero credibility with me since.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:53:07am

re: #225 darthstar

Talk about Return on Investment…

An awful lot of money has been set on fire this election cycle already, and we haven’t even reached the primaries.

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allegro Dec 15, 2015 • 10:53:23am

re: #203 Lidane

Tonight’s debate is going to be a total shit show.

I’ll be shirking my political civic duties tonight by enjoying a lovely glass of wine while watching Childhood’s End. I’m leaving the sewer diving to others to report. My respect and sympathies to those of you who go the distance.

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wrenchwench Dec 15, 2015 • 10:53:45am

One of my best customers just brought me a pan of brownies and permission to delay the work on his bike, which finally made it into the workstand yesterday. That means not only do I have brownies, I have time to cut them and remove them from the pan like a civilized person.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse Dec 15, 2015 • 10:54:14am

re: #203 Lidane

Tonight’s debate is going to be a total shit show.

The Mother of all Shit Shows.

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 10:54:26am

re: #231 allegro

I’ll be shirking my political civic duties tonight by enjoying a lovely glass of wine while watching Childhood’s End. I’m leaving the sewer diving to others to report. My respect and sympathies to those of you who go the distance.

I’m hoping to avoid the debate at all costs. I may not be so lucky.

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Dr Lizardo Dec 15, 2015 • 10:58:36am

re: #190 Charles Johnson

That’s interesting. Some time in the past few days, Chucky’s HAW made her Facebook page private - visible to friends only. Hmmm.

Interesting coincidence; Chuckles pulls a disappearing act and his HAW sets her FB page to private.

Maybe something’s up between the two of them? She doesn’t want him to see her FB page?

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FormerDirtDart Dec 15, 2015 • 10:58:49am

I guess we should start expecting Republicans in Congress to start inserting language in NASA’s budgets to prevent it from studying climate change

NASA: 2015 will be “a scorcher relative to all other years” On Record https://t.co/jeCrqIDlj6 pic.twitter.com/AwMbxn3m1h

— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) December 15, 2015

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Dec 15, 2015 • 10:59:05am

Holy shit. Tim McGinty mocked expert witnesses in the #TamirRice GJ, pointing a toy gun in the expert’s face. pic.twitter.com/p3OEQgJz3B

— TC (@tchop_stl) December 15, 2015

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 10:59:50am

re: #236 FormerDirtDart

I guess we should start expecting Republicans in Congress to start inserting language in NASA’s budgets to prevent it from studying climate change

and to prevent the Pentagon from enacting any policies that reflect climate change.

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Kid A Dec 15, 2015 • 11:01:14am

Shot this of JJ Sunday night.

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Jenner7 Dec 15, 2015 • 11:01:19am

A few police appear to be staging in parking lot behind zoo tossing a football @BmoreBloc @rousseau_ist #FreddieGray pic.twitter.com/bWLu07Ltgi

— Baltimore Resilience (@BmoreResilient) December 15, 2015

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Kryptik Dec 15, 2015 • 11:01:30am

re: #237 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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How many times has it been that a state prosecutor has acted as the defense for the police they’re supposed to be prosecuting again?

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 11:02:17am

No one could have predicted:

Plurality of Donald Trump’s Iowa supporters favor the internment of Japanese-Americans in WWII https://t.co/CNyVBg6mWs

— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) December 15, 2015

-78% support Trump’s call to bans Muslims from entering the United States, to only 13% who oppose it. Overall 54% of Republicans support him on that to 28% who are opposed. Supporters of Cruz (62/20) and Carson (54/25) also favor a Muslim ban while backers of Rubio (28/48) and Bush (28/49) are opposed.

-65% of Trump voters think thousands of Arabs in New Jersey cheered the collapse of the World Trade Center, to only 11% who don’t think that happened. Overall 43% of Republicans think that event occurred to 29% who don’t. Supporters of Carson (44/10) and Cruz (45/26) agree with Trump’s that it happened while those of Rubio (24/47) and Bush (12/62) say it didn’t.

-59% of Trump voters support a national database of Muslims, to 18% who are opposed. Republicans as a whole are evenly divided on that issue, 40/40. Carson supporters (42/38) join with Trump’s in wanting a Muslim database but those of Cruz (38/42), Rubio (32/48), and Bush (19/62) are all against it.

-45% of Trump voters want to shut down the mosques in the United States, to only 23% who are opposed to doing that. Overall just 27% of Republicans support that to 45% who are opposed though. Supporters of all the other major GOP candidates are opposed to shutting down mosques- it’s 32/48 with Carson backers, 25/44 with those of Cruz, 9/66 with Rubio voters, and 9/69 with Bush’s.

-Finally as long as we were at it we decided we’d ask people if they thought Japanese internment had been a good idea. Among Trump voters 48% say they support the use of internment during World War II, to only 21% who say they oppose it. Overall just 29% of Republicans support that to 39% opposed, and supporters of all the other candidates are against it- 29/33 with Cruz voters, 23/54 with Rubio’s, 12/48 with Carson’s, and 13/56 with Bush’s

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allegro Dec 15, 2015 • 11:02:56am

re: #237 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Revolting. Flat out criminal.

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InfidelOfFreedom Dec 15, 2015 • 11:03:29am

re: #237 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m tempted to say this is unbelievable, but it seems to be par for the course at this point. It’s so obvious we need special prosecutors for these killer cop cases but too many people in the system are looking out for the interests of injustice.

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 11:03:31am

re: #239 Kid A

Fantastic shot. That looks so cool.

I want to root for the Texans since I grew up in Houston, but they keep giving me reasons not to. Bleah.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 11:03:54am

re: #241 Kryptik

How many times has it been that a state prosecutor has acted as the defense for the police they’re supposed to be prosecuting again?

The system is set up in most cases for the prosecutors to work with the police to obtain indictments and convictions, it seems to really fall apart when it has to work in the other direction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Dec 15, 2015 • 11:05:07am

Supermarkets are currently 95% booze, cheese, chocolates, mince pies and… Actually, this isn’t a problem, forget it

— VeryBritishProblems (@SoVeryBritish) December 15, 2015

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Jenner7 Dec 15, 2015 • 11:05:31am

EXCLUSIVE photo of terrorists in Germany who emailed L.A. pic.twitter.com/qiovLUc4J9

— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) December 15, 2015

hahahaha

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Dec 15, 2015 • 11:05:53am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

Supermarkets are currently 95% booze, cheese, chocolates, mince pies and… Actually, this isn’t a problem, forget it

you forgot the ready-made Chinese and Indian food!

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allegro Dec 15, 2015 • 11:05:57am

re: #245 Lidane

Fantastic shot. That looks so cool.

I want to root for the Texans since I grew up in Houston, but they keep giving me reasons not to. Bleah.

They’re much more lovable than the Patriots. ;)

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Kragar Dec 15, 2015 • 11:06:32am

The NRA has a video calling “the Godless Left” the “infidels of freedom,” I guess because of all the mass shootings caused by Obamacare??

— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) December 15, 2015

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InfidelOfFreedom Dec 15, 2015 • 11:07:31am

re: #251 Kragar

WTF is an infidel of freedom?

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Kragar Dec 15, 2015 • 11:08:57am

re: #252 UrbanAchiever

WTF is an infidel of freedom?

Only a commie pinko libtard would need to ask.

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allegro Dec 15, 2015 • 11:09:20am

re: #252 UrbanAchiever

WTF is an infidel of freedom?

Those of us who want to go to the movies without getting shot.

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Dr Lizardo Dec 15, 2015 • 11:10:02am

re: #252 UrbanAchiever

re: #253 Kragar

I guess the NRA has gone full John Birch.

Never go full John Birch.

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Nature'sMasterpiece Dec 15, 2015 • 11:10:30am

Why are people on here even debating the chances of someone yelling “Seig Heil” at a Trump rally? Like it is so far fetched that a candidate that has White Supremacists supporting him to have that term yelled at his rally. It’s not even the most disturbing thing yelled at the rally and yet because some dumb ass on twitter says it must have been a liberal troll we have people actually debating it. The Right is very good at getting people to argue over the most idiotic things and people continue to fall for it.

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Lidane Dec 15, 2015 • 11:12:55am

re: #250 allegro

They’re much more lovable than the Patriots. ;)

Well, true. If I have to root for anyone in the AFC it’s going to be the Texans.

I’m much more of a Packers fan, though.

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FormerDirtDart Dec 15, 2015 • 11:14:30am

re: #252 UrbanAchiever

WTF is an infidel of freedom?

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Kryptik Dec 15, 2015 • 11:14:34am

re: #256 Nature’sMasterpiece

Why are people on here even debating the chances of someone yelling “Seig Heil” at a Trump rally? Like it is so far fetched that a candidate that has White Supremacists supporting him to have that term yelled at his rally. It’s not even the most disturbing thing yelled at the rally and yet because some dumb ass on twitter says it must have been a liberal troll we have people actually debating it. The Right is very good at getting people to argue over the most idiotic things and people continue to fall for it.

It’s not even that they’re good at it, it’s that our political culture seems hardwired that anything from the Right is immediately treated as credible unless debunked in triplicate and proven without a shadow of a doubt to be a lie. Anything from the left is treated like lies from the goddamned pits of hell unless verified with double-proof trials and peer review, and even then it’s always treated as questionable at best. The right is allowed to get away with bullshit for fucking ever and they never double back on it so they get treated like solid, rockribbed and decisive heroes.

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Tigger2 Dec 15, 2015 • 11:17:12am

re: #189 FormerDirtDart

As if, as a NY Jets fan and natural born NYC native, I didn’t already find reason to despise Brady and think of him as a complete douche…

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@NBCSports I didn’t think anything could make me dislike Brady more than I already did, But him supporting Trump sure made it happen.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) December 15, 2015

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Jebediah, RBG Dec 15, 2015 • 11:25:18am

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Holy shit - is that the standard now? “No significant injuries?!!”

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Eventual Carrion Dec 15, 2015 • 11:58:04am

re: #215 lawhawk

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Guess Cruz and Rubio will be going batcrap crazy over this tonight.

And if Cuba is such a terrible place with terrible people, why are/have we been letting immigration happen from there? They could be fomenting a communist revolution here.

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Thrazidun Dec 15, 2015 • 5:20:22pm

re: #60 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Not disagreeing with your point. But again… would you risk that with your kids?

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