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Unabogie  Dec 25, 2015 • 2:44:13pm

Reposting from dead thread:

Trump is on a Twitter binge. I actually find it kind of sad. If he had any truly loving people in his life, instead of marrying trophy wives and surrounding himself with sycophants, he’d be a much happier, much less bitter old man.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 2:53:59pm
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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2015 • 2:56:47pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Snork!

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CuriousLurker  Dec 25, 2015 • 2:58:46pm

Speaking of pathetic, there was a bizarre Pamela Geller love fest going on over at her blog last night. I usually try to avoid her poisonous spewing, but I was curious to see if she could wish people Merry Christmas without trashing Muslims (no, of course not—silly of me to even consider the possibility that she might give it a rest for a few hours). Anyway, I don’t usually read comments, but I was drinking some Mexican hot chocolate and it made me feel like I could handle anything. It was hard to choose the most pathological one, but I think this one wins the prize (emphasis added)1:

chris wolf Craig Doriot • 18 hours ago

That’s very well and sincerely said.
God the Father watches as Pamela Geller walks in his path of righteousness and fights for the truth and light and good in this world as he knows we must.
I never feel so flattered and full in my heart as when I hear great, wise Jewish men and women like Mark Levine, Michael Savage and Pamela Geller praise Christianity and reach out to us as Christians. We have our faith only by way of theirs. We have a common ancestry, common values and a great Judeo-Christian society to defend — together.

Great, wise Jewish men and women… move over Maimonides! Yeah, I’m, still cleaning the hot chocolate off my monitor. //

1. The name of the blog post is “Merry Christmas Eve”. Not gonna link to it, but you can easily find it via Google if you’re feeling masochistic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:04:12pm

Alabama peeps:

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CuriousLurker  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:06:48pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alabama peeps:

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I hope DD isn’t in its path.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:07:06pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

“wise Jewish men and women like Mark Levine, Michael Savage and Pamela Geller…”

More like the 3 stooges, especially Wiener-Savage. I would nominate Levin as the least crazy of the trio but that’s like being the anthrax letter with the least powder.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:08:49pm

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

More like the 3 stooges, especially Wiener-Savage. I would nominate Levin as the least crazy of the trio but that’s like being the anthrax letter with the least powder.

LOL, perfect analogy!

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Snarknado!  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:08:49pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Where can I get one?

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:11:29pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I’m sometimes tempted to post something like this here when I see one of these mistakes ;)

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Dave In Austin  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:14:31pm

GUNS for Christmas….. Sounds like a flippin’ war zone around here……

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:16:15pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

We have our faith only by way of theirs

That’s pretty ignorant, historically.

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CuriousLurker  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:18:46pm

re: #12 Nyet

That’s pretty ignorant, historically.

It’s amazing how much #FAIL can be crammed into one paragraph.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:20:04pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

These people have been getting more and more insane for years. I keep expecting them to just melt down into a stinky puddle of white supremacist glop.

It was the best decision I ever made to run screaming away from Geller, Spencer and their fellow travelers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:23:21pm
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CuriousLurker  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:23:39pm

I think I’m gonna go watch a move.

Have a good night, everyone.

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austin_blue  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:23:59pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

These people have been getting more and more insane for years. I keep expecting them to just melt down into a stinky puddle of white supremacist glop.

It was the best decision I ever made to run screaming away from Geller, Spencer and their fellow travelers.

A lot of Lizards molted and became snakes, but jeez, you made the right call. What shocks me is how many still e-stalk you.

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Shiplord Kirel  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:24:05pm

My friends Brooke and CK have sent me a pic of themselves on the beach in balmy Atlantic City today, while I am in Lubbock helping the locals prepare for the worst blizzard in 30 years. My daughter and I are at my wife’s aunt and uncle’s house for Christmas. They have sort of adopted us in recent years, poor waifs that we are. They are in their 80s and absolutely lovely people. We are well prepared, with propane stuff and a multi-fuel generator. Stocking up on food for an event like this is kind of silly unless you are low to start with, since the storm is not likely to shut down all transport for more than a couple of days at the extreme worst. The worst part will be the usual blog and radio suspects yukking it up about “gorebull warming,” not realizing that a single storm does not a trend make, and the long term trend in this part of the country is toward decidedly warmer winters. Fortunately, the aunt and uncle are enlightened people so we will not have to endure this nonsense in person.

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Unabogie  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:24:12pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

These people have been getting more and more insane for years. I keep expecting them to just melt down into a stinky puddle of white supremacist glop.

It was the best decision I ever made to run screaming away from Geller, Spencer and their fellow travelers.

But what ever led you to align yourself with them in the first place? Not trying to badger you, but I used to avoid this place like the plague because of the things I read here, and even though I never agreed with the right wing about issues, their racism has been around since William F. Buckley, Rush Limbaugh, and Pat Buchanan.

Serious question.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:25:29pm

re: #11 Dave In Austin

GUNS for Christmas….. Sounds like a flippin’ war zone around here……

You’ll take your eye out!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:25:50pm

From Barry Ritholtiz’s site The Big Picture on the resurgence of vinyl:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:27:06pm

re: #21 Eric The Fruit Bat

Hey come on now, there is some music that only sounds right on Vinyl…

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PT Barnum  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:28:19pm

Spent two hours talking music with the night clerk at our motel last night, which just made me realize how much I miss having friends to talk about that kind of stuff with at home.

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PT Barnum  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:29:02pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey come on now, there is some music that only sounds right on Vinyl…

Yeah, The Archies.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:29:27pm

Bone-in spiral ham
Roasted asparagus
Cheddar scallop potatoes

Ham was amazing. Came pre-glazed in the wrapping but I rubbed it lightly with yellow mustard so the general purpose pork rub I use would stick. Only an 8 lb’er since it’s just the folks and I. Still a bunch of leftovers. Vacuum sealed and frozen. Saved the bone for soup.

Got a bunch of Hallmark Star Wars/Star Trek ornaments for the tree next year. Mom can’t object since she’s the one that got them for me.

Nice and quiet day with phone calls from the out-of-state immediate family. I’m not complaining.

Hoping everyone else has had a nice day too. :)

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PT Barnum  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:31:22pm

re: #25 GlutenFreeJesus

Bone-in spiral ham
Roasted asparagus
Cheddar scallop potatoes

Ham was amazing. Came pre-glazed in the wrapping but I rubbed it lightly with yellow mustard so the general purpose pork rub I use would stick. Only an 8 lb’er since it’s just the folks and I. Still a bunch of leftovers. Vacuum sealed and frozen. Saved the bone for soup.

Got a bunch of Hallmark Star Wars/Star Trek ornaments for the tree next year. Mom can’t object since she’s the one that got them for me.

Nice and quiet day with phone calls from the out-of-state immediate family. I’m not complaining.

Hoping everyone else has had a nice day too. :)

Ham n Bean soup….mmmmmmmmmmm

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PT Barnum  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:32:14pm

We failed Festivus and aired our gratitudes today

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:32:43pm

re: #26 PT Barnum

That and split pea. Definitely on the horizon. :)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:33:58pm

re: #19 Unabogie

The 9/11 attacks were a real shock to me, and I was trying to understand the forces that led to them. People like Robert Spencer presented themselves at that time as reasonable critics of radical Islam, and seemed to reject extremism and bigotry, but there was a point at which I understood it was a consciously deceptive facade - when I realized they were making alliances with outright fascists in Europe. Spencer tried to deny this for a while, but when his fascist allies called him on it and made him take a stand he couldn’t hide it any more - and I wanted absolutely nothing to do with people like that.

It was a learning experience.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:37:36pm

Well I got mountains of goodies today but thanks to a canker sore that has a death grip on the underside of my tongue, I have been unable to enjoy them. Even eating the ham and mashed potatoes at dinner was a chore.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:38:10pm

re: #6 CuriousLurker

I hope DD isn’t in its path.

IIRC, DD is way south of B’ham and lives closer to Troy and Enterprise.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:38:41pm

re: #6 CuriousLurker

I hope DD isn’t in its path.

No, but Daughter2 and Grandson1 are in the cone.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:41:04pm

re: #22 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey come on now, there is some music that only sounds right on Vinyl…

If it was pressed on virgin vinyl, the master was done at half-speed and the stampers were replaced after 40,000 pressings maybe I could agree.

But then you run into the nasty non-linearity of the RIAA equalization curve, and the sad reality is the quality of mass-produced vinyl pressed before CD’s came online was horrid.

And I mean REAL horrid. When the sound of the reground vinyl is louder than the tape hiss of the recording, that’s bad.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:41:20pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

No, but Daughter2 and Grandson1 are in the cone.

Yeah, I’ve got friends in Pelham and Calera, which sounds to be south of this, but still makes me worry.

I hope your daughter and grandson are OK.

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austin_blue  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:42:54pm

re: #32 Decatur Deb

No, but Daughter2 and Grandson1 are in the cone.

Storm appears to have run south of the southern ridge through Mountain Brook and the airport. My cousin Sandra lives in Mountain Brook. Damn.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:42:54pm

re: #33 Eric The Fruit Bat

If it was pressed on virgin vinyl, the master was done at half-speed and the stampers were replaced after 40,000 pressings maybe I could agree.

But then you run into the nasty non-linearity of the RIAA equalization curve, and the sad reality is the quality of mass-produced vinyl pressed before CD’s came online was horrid.

Waiting for the resurgence of cassette tape.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:43:50pm

re: #35 austin_blue

Storm appears to have run south of the southern ridge through Mountain Brook and the airport. My cousin Sandra lives in Mountain Brook. Damn.

High-rent district.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:47:33pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

Waiting for the resurgence of cassette tape.

It’s been happening right under your nose.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:49:53pm

re: #38 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s been happening right under your nose.


“But audiophiles refuse to be deterred, preferring “the warmth and presence in an analog recording that you will not hear in the digital recording,”

Gotta sell these folks some re-bottled box wine.

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austin_blue  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:52:45pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

High-rent district.

She and her husband bought the smallest house in MB back in 1978 so their daughter could go the school system there. Turned out to be one hell of an investment.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:54:55pm

NWS has let the Birmingham warning lapse (for now).

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austin_blue  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:55:27pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

NWS has let the Birmingham warning lapse (for now).

Any news?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:57:14pm

re: #42 austin_blue

Any news?

Not from family—they’ve been texting. Dog is losing its mind. The worst of it stayed NW of I-59, from the radars.

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austin_blue  Dec 25, 2015 • 3:59:03pm

re: #43 Decatur Deb

Not from family—they’ve been texting. Dog is losing its mind. The worst of it stayed NW of I-59, from the radars.

Good! Looked scary there for a while. When the FAA evacuates the airport tower…

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Cheechako  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:05:59pm

Typical Christmas. The microwave oven committed suicide on Christmas eve just when my wife needed it to prepare some christmas goodies. Of course neither of us had a microwave on our wish lists. Hope the stores still have some on sale tomorrow.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:07:06pm

re: #45 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Ted Cruz’s mom prays for him hours every day

Who in the hell deliberately releases hours of bloopers and re-takes?

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:09:21pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Who in the hell deliberately releases hours of bloopers and re-takes?

You know, I’m not sure it was a bad idea. I think Cruz is slime, but that video is cute and funny and shows people acting like real people around him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:16:09pm

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

Well I got mountains of goodies today but thanks to a canker sore that has a death grip on the underside of my tongue, I have been unable to enjoy them. Even eating the ham and mashed potatoes at dinner was a chore.

my sympathies. I had a tummy bug a few years ago that wrecked christmas treats for me

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:16:18pm

I’m thankful for Charles turning me onto Jarrett. Which led me back to a Joe Jackson reminisce.

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Bubblehead II  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:19:10pm

Lizards. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Sleep well and may the deity of your choice smile down upon you.

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austin_blue  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:20:43pm

re: #51 Bubblehead II

Lizards. Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Sleep well and may the deity of your choice smile down upon you.

Aaaand… a drop of pasta water just plopped on the top of my head.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:25:54pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Citizens United. Seriously.

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:34:28pm

Evening Lizardim from wingnut central. I’ve already had the awkward political talk with papa fish, so here’s hoping most of the rest of the week is peaceful. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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thedopefishlives  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:42:54pm

And of course, Merry Christmas to my scaly friends here. Y’all are awesome.

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Lidane  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:44:55pm

Merry Christmas, Lizards!

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Bear  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:47:46pm

re: #54 thedopefishlives

Guess the Eastern folks are finished with dinner and either sacked out or running around the block trying to work off all the goodies they consumed. The West gang maynbe getting set to partake in their dinner.

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Lidane  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:49:04pm
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sizzzzlerz  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:51:13pm

re: #24 PT Barnum

Yeah, The Archies.

Sugar, sugar, honey, honey.
You are my candy girl and you got me wanting you

46 years after that p.o.s. came out and I still can remember its lyrics. God, I need help!

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plansbandc  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:55:14pm

Merry Christmas Lizards! Thank you for helping me stay sane, or at least somewhat sane. I love you all.

Thank you Charles for this island of reality. It’s a wonderful thing.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 4:55:59pm

The only trivia from imdb’s trivia page for Will Zens’ cheaper than cheap-o Capture That Capsule, aka (by nobody excepting maybe Quentin Tarantino’s nerdier cousin, Quark Tarantino) Spy Squad (1961):

This movie has a two minute long car chase sequence that has no dialogue, no music, and only one car in it.

“Hey, I’m spy squadin’ here!”

“You know something, Frank, these c-sticks do smell better than burning flesh.”

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:06:15pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

The only trivia from imdb’s trivia page for Will Zens’ cheaper than cheap-o Capture That Capsule, aka (by nobody excepting maybe Quentin Tarantino’s nerdier cousin, Quark) Spy Squad (1961):

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I remember watching this with my dad, had to be 50+ years ago. Dad sad it was so bad he had to scrape the Velveeta off the picture tube…

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:07:43pm

re: #62 Joe Bacon

I remember watching this with my dad, had to be 50+ years ago. Dad sad it was so bad he had to scrape the Velveeta off the picture tube…

LOL Do you recall where you saw it? Theater or drive-in?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:10:39pm

re: #63 De Kolta Chair

LOL Do you recall where you saw it? Theater or drive-in?

It was on TV! The Early Show on KDKA 2 Pittsburgh! Damn, I remember the scene where a guy keeps stamping on the hand of a swimmer and you know it’s fake! Then the scene where a guy is holding the knife in his belly pretending he’s stabbed with no blood…

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stpaulbear  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:12:12pm

I’m going to watch A Christmas Carol with Alastair Sims this evening. I love that version, but the climactic scene where Scrooge wakes up on Christmas day has lost some of it’s magic once I noticed that the mirror Scrooge looks into reflects one of the film crew standing off set wearing a white shirt and tie. Impossible to unsee once you know it’s there.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:13:16pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon

It was on TV! The Early Show on KDKA 2 Pittsburgh! Damn, I remember the scene where a guy keeps stamping on the hand of a swimmer and you know it’s fake! Then the scene where a guy is holding the knife in his belly pretending he’s stabbed with no blood…

Oh my, I have got to see that! ;-)

Btw, I only brought it up because I watched MST3K’s riff of Zens’ equally awful The Starfighters this morning. Air Force folks might get a kitschy kick out of it.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:14:26pm

The absolute worst movie I ever saw was The Phynx. Mom, Dad and I were watching it and doing MST3K riffing on it all the way through when it was on TV in the early 70s. If you think I’m kidding, Pay to watch it.

The Phynx

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Mattand  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:16:20pm

Hey, kids:

Hope everyone has a great Christmas Day, even if you didn’t get the cybernetic Tyrannosaurus with laser beam eyes and nuclear-powered rocket thrusters you asked for.

Not that I’m bitter…

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Mattand  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:18:12pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

I look at these pictures and all I can think is Radar Secret Service.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:18:20pm
Xmas Tree 2015

Niece got this photo last night while the sun was setting. Lights, cat, city, etc.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:19:46pm

re: #67 Joe Bacon

The absolute worst movie I ever saw was The Phynx. Mom, Dad and I were watching it and doing MST3K riffing on it all the way through when it was on TV in the early 70s. If you think I’m kidding, Pay to watch it.

I vaguely recall that one. Didn’t it have lots of old movie stars working for scale, bless their hearts?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:21:46pm

re: #71 De Kolta Chair

I vaguely recall that one. Didn’t it have lots of old movie stars?

Yes it did. Mom kept saying, “…so X needs $100 that baaaaaaaaaaaad”.

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Mattand  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:22:29pm

re: #70 Feline Fearless Leader

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Niece got this photo last night while the sun was setting. Lights, cat, city, etc.

LOL, I’m such a nerd. I know exactly which skyscraper that is.

Great photo, BTW. Merry Christmas!

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:29:46pm

Was it George Orwell who wrote “If you want a vision of the future, imagine the Twilight Zone episode ‘The Midnight Sun’ running on an endless loop forever, only without the twist ending”?

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:32:23pm

re: #72 Joe Bacon

Yes it did. Mom kept saying, “…so X needs $100 that baaaaaaaaaaaad”.

I just looked it up on imdb. Practically everybody who was anybody at one time was in that! Hope the checks cleared.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:32:59pm

re: #70 Feline Fearless Leader

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Niece got this photo last night while the sun was setting. Lights, cat, city, etc.

You should let the cat in, must be cold outside!

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:44:15pm

re: #66 De Kolta Chair

Oh my, I have got to see that! ;-)

Btw, I only brought it up because I watched MST3K’s riff of Zens’ equally awful The Starfighters this morning. Air Force folks might get a kitschy kick out of it.

Also known as the public debut of (future) Congressman “B-1 Bob” Dornan.

Yeah, it’s pretty bad.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:48:29pm

re: #77 TedStriker

Also known as the public debut of (future) Congressman “B-1 Bob” Dornan.

Yeah, it’s pretty bad.

On the bright side, it’s a lot (a lot) better than Bob Dornan himself.

“Every time I see Dornan, he looks like he needs a rabies shot.” — Bill Clinton

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:55:15pm

Trump fans.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:59:20pm

For those who thought Mitt Romney’s sons weren’t creepy enough…

Tax Abatement Trump and his brother Chapter 11 Trump

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 5:59:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:00:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:03:20pm
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b_sharp  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:05:09pm

Over ate.

Had to go put on sweats.

Stomach hurts.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:07:04pm

Worst movie I ever saw, huh?

How about “Arthur”?

Didn’t see Arthur 2.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:09:05pm

Speaking of movies, I was always disappointed that they never continued the Austin Powers line just because Goldmember sucked. There was an awful lot they could have done with those characters.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:10:07pm

My nephew gave me a cool Game of Thrones t-shirt for Xmas, which I’ll wear when we see Star Wars this weekend. (He’s already seen it four times.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:10:38pm

NWS tweeted out my flowering quince is confused on Christmas Day photo:

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:11:44pm

re: #86 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Speaking of movies, I was always disappointed that they never continued the Austin Powers line just because Goldmember sucked. There was an awful lot they could have done with those characters.

Yeah, I was hoping for…Thundershag…You Only Shag Twice…Shag and Let Die…The Man With The Golden Shag…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:12:42pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:13:01pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:15:58pm

re: #89 Joe Bacon

I’d ding you but it seems my dinger buttons are broken. I get kicked out to the front page. Speaking of AP, they could have also gotten another actor to take over the role and had a Sean Connery/Roger Moore dynamic. I think Steve Carrell would have made a good Austin Powers.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:18:56pm

re: #85 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Worst movie I ever saw, huh?

How about “Arthur”?

2016 Christmas Card List:
SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:19:22pm

re: #89 Joe Bacon

Yeah, I was hoping for…Thundershag…

I hated hated hated Fat Bastard, who was obesely unfunny, pardon the pun. Maybe next time a prequel about Sir Nigel Powers’ early years?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:21:38pm

re: #93 Usually refered to as anyways

LOL! It was a close run race to the bottom between Arthur and Pretty Woman.

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b_sharp  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:22:45pm

re: #94 De Kolta Chair

I hated hated hated Fat Bastard, who was obesely unfunny, pardon the pun. Maybe next time a prequel about Sir Nigel Powers’ early years?

Get. In. My. Belly!

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:23:25pm

Worst movie I’ve seen in the past ten years — Adam Sandler’s remake of The Longest Yard. I can’t bring myself to make fun of it, it was that bad.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:25:14pm

re: #94 De Kolta Chair

I think sometimes people fall in love with a character and try to force it into a movie. As bad as FB was I thin Mini Me was great. (loved the lunar fight scene)

Austin Powers and Mini-Me Fight Scene

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:25:29pm

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:29:32pm

re: #95 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

LOL! It was a close run race to the bottom between Arthur and Pretty Woman.

Do a deal we can go with Pretty Woman, and you can be on a three month good behaviour bond.

What’s with Arthur?
I thought John Gielgud played a great part.
I think because in many ways he reminded me of my Grandfather.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:31:29pm

re: #98 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I think sometimes people fall in love with a character and try to force it into a movie. As bad as FB was I thin Mini Me was great. (loved the lunar fight scene)

Okay, that made me laugh out loud. And great use of set design.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:34:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:34:59pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:36:17pm

re: #100 Usually refered to as anyways

My beef with Arthur was the whole drunken playboy thing. Arthur was utterly incapable of anything. I just hated the character and couldn’t get into the movie at all. I’ve seen movies with bad plots, bad acting, bad jokes, but never left a movie as annoyed as I did with Arthur. Heck as disgusted as I was with the premise of Pretty Woman, the characters had some redeeming qualities and the things they did made some sort of sense.

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:36:48pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:37:03pm

re: #65 stpaulbear

I’m going to watch A Christmas Carol with Alastair Sims this evening. I love that version, but the climactic scene where Scrooge wakes up on Christmas day has lost some of it’s magic once I noticed that the mirror Scrooge looks into reflects one of the film crew standing off set wearing a white shirt and tie. Impossible to unsee once you know it’s there.

Curses! I was going to watch it today. Now I’m going to be thinking about the guy in the mirror all through the movie. The Ghost of Stagehands Past.

I love this version, too. The Patrick Stewart TV version from 1999 vies with the Alastair Sim version for my favorite movie treatment. The Stewart version uses dialogue from Dickens’ novella, word for word. I’ll see how close the Sim version follows the book’s dialogue.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:37:41pm

re: #100 Usually refered to as anyways

I think because in many ways he reminded me of my Grandfather.

John Gielgud reminded you of your grandfather?

//// Sir John was great in that. Won an Oscar for it, as I recall.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:37:50pm

re: #70 Feline Fearless Leader

Is the deer head wearing a hat?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:39:41pm

HOLY CENSORED!

I have to change what I thought was the worst movie I ever saw. I just started watching Sandler’s latest, The Ridiculous Six on Netflix. Saying it’s awful is an understatement…

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:42:42pm

re: #109 Joe Bacon

Maybe Adam Sandler should have a division all to himself.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:44:59pm

re: #110 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Maybe Adam Sandler should have a division all to himself.

My jaw is dropping from the blatant racist stereotyping! This movie is a CENSORED train wreck!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:47:59pm

re: #108 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Is the deer head wearing a hat?

Yes. My brother tossed one up there. It was a Christmas present.

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nines09  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:50:29pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Apparently he does not know when to walk away. Just like when he decided to donate his face to science.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:50:30pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon

Could be worse-Adult Swim ran a series called Minoriteam:

The plot of the show revolves around five male superheroes, each of whom is based on a racial or ethnic stereotype, who join forces to fight against a bunch of villains who are mostly discriminatory concepts. The show’s artwork is largely an homage to Jack Kirby (“King Kirby” is thanked in the show’s end credits), while the animation style parodies the limited animation of the Marvel Super Heroes Show of 1966. The opening tag declaring that Minoriteam is broadcast “FULLY COLORED” is both a racial reference and an homage to the “IN COLOR” or “IN TECHNICOLOR” line opening many old cartoons.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:53:02pm

re: #107 De Kolta Chair

John Gielgud reminded you of your grandfather?

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//// Sir John was great in that. Won an Oscar for it, as I recall.

Best actor in a supporting role.

My Grand Father was British, worked in India he was one of the big wigs for British Rail, immigrated to Australia in 1948. My father was 10-11 at the time.

My Grand Father was immaculately dressed ‘for breakfast’.
Growing up, he would write my sister and I a letter each week, and when we replied he would send our letters back with grammar and spelling corrected in red ink.
There was nothing he wouldn’t do for us.
I never heard him swear, and he always spoke the Queens English.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:53:55pm

re: #114 Eric The Fruit Bat

Could be worse-Adult Swim ran a series called Minoriteam:

I think I’m in love with a show I’ve never heard of. How’d I miss that??????? //

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b_sharp  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:54:17pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon

My jaw is dropping from the blatant racist stereotyping! This movie is a CENSORED train wreck!

We can say ‘fucking’ here.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 6:54:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:01:07pm
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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:01:08pm

re: #117 b_sharp

We can say ‘fucking’ here.

Honestly, the F word is too good for this pile of dog turds!

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:02:10pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another human sacrifice to water the tree of liberty.

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William of Orange  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:02:20pm

Arson suspected at Bill Clinton ‘s birthplace.

A fire at former US President Bill Clinton’s childhood home in Arkansas is believed to have been caused by arson, officials say.

They say the blaze in the city of Hope slightly damaged one interior room before it was extinguished.

Arson is suspected because accelerant was detected at the scene. Graffiti is also being examined.

Mr Clinton spent his first years in the house, which was designated a National Historic Site in 2011.

bbc.com

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:04:52pm
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b_sharp  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:07:11pm

re: #120 Joe Bacon

Honestly, the F word is too good for this pile of dog turds!

Just saying that a bit of creative profanity isn’t looked down on here.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:08:27pm

re: #115 Usually refered to as anyways

My Grand Father was British, worked in India he was one of the big wigs for British Rail, immigrated to Australia in 1948. My father was 10-11 at the time.

Your grandda sounds like he led an interesting life.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:10:22pm

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Curses! I was going to watch it today. Now I’m going to be thinking about the guy in the mirror all through the movie. The Ghost of Stagehands Past.

I love this version, too. The Patrick Stewart TV version from 1999 vies with the Alastair Sim version for my favorite movie treatment. The Stewart version uses dialogue from Dickens’ novella, word for word. I’ll see how close the Sim version follows the book’s dialogue.

IMO, one of the best screen adaptations of “A Christmas Carol” would have to be Scrooged.

Bill Murray (and pretty much his whole real-life family), Alfre Woodard, and a hell of a ensemble cast make it for me.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:10:36pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:15:48pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

It’s the driving force behind the Trump campaign: the clear-eyed recognition that racists & xenophobes are a huge part of the RW base.

re: #127 Charles Johnson

And it’s also the driving force behind sites like Daily Caller and Breitbart “News,” that directly appeal to racists and xenophobes.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:22:25pm

American Psychological Association Designates “Trump’s Syndrome”

inability to stop spouting rude and ignorant crap even on christmas day said to spreading so fast it’ll make your head spin

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:22:47pm

Happy Christmas one more time!

I worked seven hours at the ski shop and skied for two hours. I skied my favorite in-bounds aspen glade today and it was on point. I couldn’t hear my skis through most of the forest. Very very nice Christmas day turns today. It snowed on and off all day, a genuine White Christmas.

The owners of the shop bought all the employees and their friends a ham dinner with all the fixings. Nothing like tuning skis while stuffing yourself with a Christmas dinner courtesy of the paycheck signers!

Did I say the skiing was good? Four of the runs I did today made it the Best Christmas Ever!

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:24:18pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

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We should collect a list of bigoted Ayn Rand quotes and pass them around as “Chucky C. Johnson’s favorite Ayn Rand quotes”. However UpChuck reacted, the freakout would be amusing.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:25:28pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

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In Ayn Rand’s defense (?), she was just mimicking Winston Churchill’s imperialist racism. Jeez, she couldn’t even be original being an asshole!

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Usually refered to as anyways  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:27:54pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

We should collect a list of bigoted Ayn Rand quotes and pass them around as “Chucky C. Johnson’s favorite Ayn Rand quotes”. However UpChuck reacted, the freakout would be amusing.

You would need to find one he objected to first.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:30:10pm

re: #126 TedStriker

IMO, one of the best screen adaptations of “A Christmas Carol” would have to be Scrooged.

Bill Murray (and pretty much his whole real-life family), Alfre Woodard, and a hell of a ensemble cast make it for me.

Bill Murray’s speech at the end of Scrooged gets me all Niagara Falls every time I see it; for me, it’s probably one of the most powerful moments on film:

A Christmas Miracle - Scrooged (10/10) Movie CLIP (1988) HD

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:32:51pm

Facebook Post

What a bummer Christmas Eve for those poor 80 skiers.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:33:35pm
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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:36:13pm
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Belafon  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:42:37pm

Enjoyed the Doctor Who Christmas Special.

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Unabogie  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:44:02pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

The 9/11 attacks were a real shock to me, and I was trying to understand the forces that led to them. People like Robert Spencer presented themselves at that time as reasonable critics of radical Islam, and seemed to reject extremism and bigotry, but there was a point at which I understood it was a consciously deceptive facade - when I realized they were making alliances with outright fascists in Europe. Spencer tried to deny this for a while, but when his fascist allies called him on it and made him take a stand he couldn’t hide it any more - and I wanted absolutely nothing to do with people like that.

It was a learning experience.

Sorry for the late reply, but thanks for the honest answer. Glad you found your way on this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:45:37pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Apparently Kenny Rogers does NOT know when to run…go figure.

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Great White Snark  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:46:23pm

Well we do have rare clear crisp clean air tonight in Los Angeles. Almost perfect viewing for the full moon tonight just windy so the air softens the shot a bit. . Paged but wanted to share this one here

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:47:18pm

re: #141 Great White Snark

That power line is in the way!

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:48:49pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

Did you get to see your lady skier friend today?

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Bear  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:51:14pm

Will not see the full moon here. NWS thinks snow will start here in less than hour.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:51:33pm

The great thing about this tweet is both my British step-family and my Irish relatives will think this is funny, though for totally different reasons:

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ausador  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:51:36pm

re: #132 De Kolta Chair

In Ayn Rand’s defense (?), she was just mimicking Winston Churchill’s imperialist racism. Jeez, she couldn’t even be original being an asshole!

His utter disdain of the “fuzzies” was one of the less enlighted aspects of his character, but again, different times. His racism was not particularly remarkable in the society he inhabited, it was pretty much the status quo.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:51:44pm

A fascinating map based on a peer-reviewed CDC paper.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:54:23pm

re: #131 Dark_Falcon

They would also apply to the Speaker of the House as well, Dark.

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b_sharp  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:55:01pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

A fascinating map based on a peer-reviewed CDC paper.

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What do they mean by distinctive?

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:56:49pm

re: #146 ausador

His utter disdain of the “fuzzies” was one of the less enlighted aspects of his character, but again, different times. His racism was not particularly remarkable in the society he inhabited, it was pretty much the status quo.

I see your point, but must disagree. Churchill had many friends who told him he was a backward-thinking colonial dinosaur. Not everyone in his day was a moron; far from it in Great Britain.

Which, come to think of it, is one of the things I like about Churchill, in that he had and kept friends who would say that to his face, unlike a lot of folks in his class.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:57:35pm

re: #149 b_sharp

What do they mean by distinctive?

The resulting map depicts a variety of distinctive causes of death based on a wide range of number of deaths, from 15,000 deaths from HIV in Florida to 679 deaths from tuberculosis in Texas to 22 deaths from syphilis in Louisiana. The largest number of deaths mapped were the 37,292 deaths in Michigan from “atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, so described”; the fewest, the 11 deaths in Montana from “acute and rapidly progressive nephritic and nephrotic syndrome.” The state-specific percentage of total deaths mapped ranged from 1.8% (Delaware; atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, so described) to 0.0005% (Illinois, other disorders of kidney).

Some of the findings make intuitive sense (influenza in some northern states, pneumoconioses in coal-mining states, air and water accidents in Alaska and Idaho), while the explanations for others are less immediately apparent (septicemia in New Jersey, deaths by legal intervention in 3 Western states). The highly variable use of codes beginning with “other” between states is also apparent. For example, Oklahoma accounted for 24% of the deaths attributable to “other acute ischemic heart diseases” in the country despite having only slightly more than 1% of the population, resulting in a standardized mortality rate ratio of 19.4 for this cause of death, the highest on the map. The highest standardized mortality rate ratio after Oklahoma was 12.4 for pneumoconioses in West Virginia.

A limitation of this map is that it depicts only 1 distinctive cause of death for each state. All of these were significantly higher than the national rate, but there were many others also significantly higher than the national rate that were not mapped. The map is also predisposed to showing rare causes of death — for 22 of the states, the total number of deaths mapped was under 100. Using broader cause-of-death categories or requiring a higher threshold for the number of deaths would result in a different map. These limitations are characteristic of maps generally and are why these maps are best regarded as snapshots and not comprehensive statistical summaries

cdc.gov

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2015 • 7:57:42pm

I told my wife I wanted to learn to play bass guitar, and she bought me this:

Bass

I need to find an inexpensive amp.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:00:27pm

re: #152 Belafon

I want a bass guitar so bad. I have electric and acoustic guitars. No bass. I’ve wanted a bass for years. Every time I visit my musician friends in Denver the first thing I always do is pick up a bass. Last time I did this a month ago I was still working on my thumb slap technique.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:01:48pm

Another asshole who spewed filth on Christmas Eve:

‘The Grinch who stole the trans movement:’ Transgender solider Chelsea Manning launches Christmas attack against Caitlyn Jenner for her behavior after coming out

The disloyal slimeball says what? POS Manning isn’t fit to tie Caitlyn Jenner’s shoes.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:02:20pm

re: #152 Belafon

I need to find an inexpensive amp.

“What this country needs is a good five-watt amplifier.” —Paul W. Klipsch

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:03:36pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

I want a bass guitar so bad. I have electric and acoustic guitars. No bass. I’ve wanted a bass for years. Every time I visit my musician friends in Denver the first thing I always do is pick up a bass. Last time I did this a month ago I was still working on my thumb slap technique.

The last string instrument I played was violin about 33 years ago. My dad plays guitar, and I bought my sons mandolins, so I figured someone needs to play bass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:04:10pm

Hey Teleskiguy,

Have you ever seen that movie ‘Frozen’? NOT the one with Olaf and Elsa, this one:

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:05:01pm

re: #148 Eric The Fruit Bat

They would also apply to the Speaker of the House as well, Dark.

I haven’t seen Paul Ryan associate himself with Rand since 2012. It was made clear to him at that time that Objectivism is not compatible with Catholicism.

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b_sharp  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:06:39pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

I want a bass guitar so bad. I have electric and acoustic guitars. No bass. I’ve wanted a bass for years. Every time I visit my musician friends in Denver the first thing I always do is pick up a bass. Last time I did this a month ago I was still working on my thumb slap technique.

I have one I haven’t looked at for years.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:07:05pm
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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:09:09pm

re: #152 Belafon

I told my wife I wanted to learn to play bass guitar, and she bought me this:

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I need to find an inexpensive amp.

Nice! Go to Amazon and look up Fender Frontman 10G. Inexpensive but decent beginners solid state amp. Hope you have as much fun as I’ve been having with my guitars!

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b_sharp  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:10:51pm

re: #161 William Lewis

Nice! Go to Amazon and look up Fender Frontman 10G. Inexpensive but decent beginners solid state amp. Hope you have as much fun as I’ve been having with my guitars!

I wish my fingers still worked.

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:11:36pm

re: #158 Dark_Falcon

I haven’t seen Paul Ryan associate himself with Rand since 2012. It was made clear to him at that time that Objectivism is not compatible with Catholicismhumanity.

FTFY, though I think in his case he still believes in his goddess rather than in God but has learned to be silent about it for expediency.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:12:48pm

re: #160 Eric The Fruit Bat

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I like the innocence of “No kidding.” As if the pollution in China hasn’t been a big story lately. Sorta like tweeting “Shooter decimates school in Anywhere, USA. No kidding.”

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:13:17pm

re: #161 William Lewis

Nice! Go to Amazon and look up Fender Frontman 10G. Inexpensive but decent beginners solid state amp. Hope you have as much fun as I’ve been having with my guitars!

Not knowing anything about bass, can you use the same amp with both types of guitar?

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ausador  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:15:19pm

re: #150 De Kolta Chair

I see your point, but must disagree. Churchill had many friends who told him he was a backward-thinking colonial dinosaur.

Which, come to think of it, is one of the things I like about Churchill, in that he had and kept friends who would say that to his face, unlike a lot of folks in his class.

I think that it is probable that working with the native levies during hostilities with the Boers colored his judgement thereafter. Longer explanation than I want to attempt via phone touchpad…

Great man, yes, racist, absolutely, like many others (Lindberg, etc.) of the time he also had feet of clay. :(

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:19:10pm

re: #147 teleskiguy

A fascinating map based on a peer-reviewed CDC paper.

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Our AL distinctive cause of death: accidental discharge of firearms.

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:20:38pm

re: #165 Belafon

Not knowing anything about bass, can you use the same amp with both types of guitar?

IIUC, for low end practice amps, you can. If you get into gigging you’ll want something bass specific.

The Fender Rumble 15 is about $20 more and bass specific though so perhaps that would be a better bet?

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:23:47pm

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey Teleskiguy,

Have you ever seen that movie ‘Frozen’? NOT the one with Olaf and Elsa, this one:

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What self-respecting ski enthusiast hasn’t see “Frozen?”

I thought it was kind of stupid, personally.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:28:32pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

What self-respecting ski enthusiast hasn’t see “Frozen?”

I thought it was kind of stupid, personally.

My major complaint with it is what kind of Ski Resort worth its salt would NOT you know, DOUBLE check to make sure the lifts were clear before shutting down? With lawsuits and insurance issues at risk, it seems like a no-brainer. I know obviously that would have defeated the purpose of the movie, but if I’m suspending disbelief on something I like it to be logical whenever possible.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:30:14pm
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ausador  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:30:42pm

Spot on…

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:31:03pm

re: #168 William Lewis

IIUC, for low end practice amps, you can. If you get into gigging you’ll want something bass specific.

The Fender Rumble 15 is about $20 more and bass specific though so perhaps that would be a better bet?

Thanks. I was looking at the Rumble 15. I have a small 10 amp for an electric guitar I have if one of the kids wants to learn to play. If I can plug into that until I can get something bass specific, just to make some sound, that would be nice.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:32:16pm

re: #166 ausador

I think that it is probable that working with the native levies during hostilities with the Boers colored his judgement thereafter. Longer explanation than I want to attempt via phone touchpad…

Great man, yes, racist, absolutely, like many others (Lindberg, etc.) of the time he also had feet of clay. :(

Fair cop. And as much as I despise Churchill’s colonial and domestic views over most of his lifetime (don’t get me started on Ireland), for several years, as you know, he and his countryfolk stood up to ultimate evil, and eternal thanks to them. Apropos of that, my late step-mom’s mum died very young from asbestos poisoning working in a factory building bombers, the thought of which is very humbling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:33:18pm

re: #171 Charles Johnson

Oh hell. He would do that, wouldn’t he?

Fucking idiot.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:34:59pm

re: #168 William Lewis

William, Sergey found this unpleasant fellow on Twitter. Given your interest in the Spanish Civil War, he might be someone to watch out for online as he is an open admirer of Franco’s Nationalists:

The Fall Of Seville, 1936

The armed leftist forces then came under attack. The army brought in the feared elite Spanish Legion, which would deal with the communist and Marxist elements in the city. Anyone with even the slightest ties to left-wing groups would be targeted for execution. Years of resentment against leftist arrogance and brutality now swelled to the surface in a fury of retaliatory violence. The Legion attacked the leftist areas of the city, killing anyone who offered the slightest resistance. By July 25, the city was secure.

Although many left-wing historians have decried the violence and alleged brutality that the Legion and its Moorish auxiliaries committed in Seville, the reality is that it was the most efficient way of taking the city and restoring order. Few (if any) historians dwell on the atrocities committed by communist, anarchist, or socialist militias in Spain before and during the outbreak of war. But it happened on a very wide scale, and cannot be denied.

After the city was secure, anyone with ties to the Republican government was thrown in jail. Death sentences were handed out liberally to the unlucky ones tainted by association with left-wing causes. It has been estimated that about three thousand were shot in the first month after the city was taken. Mopping up was done by irregular forces (Civil Guards, Falangists, and militias) in the rest of the province.

The subtext of this passage is clear: “The dirty Commies got what was coming to them!!1” I suppose it was inevitable that the crop of Nazi apologists would produce a Franco apologist, but its still nasty to see.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:35:22pm

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

My major complaint with it is what kind of Ski Resort worth its salt would NOT you know, DOUBLE check to make sure the lifts were clear before shutting down? With lawsuits and insurance issues at risk, it seems like a no-brainer. I know obviously that would have defeated the purpose of the movie, but I’m suspending disbelief on something I like it to be logical whenever possible.

Believe it or not, this happened in Vail in the 90s, though it was the skiers’ own damn fault for ducking a rope past closing time.

This hapless skier got on the still-running High Noon lift when nobody was around. About a minute into his ride the lift stopped for the night. Dude ended up jumping a couple of hours after the sun set, broke his back, then proceeded to crawl back to the bottom of lift where he broke into the lift shack and started a fire with a broom that was nearby. Employees found him the next morning sleeping in the shack.

Dude couldn’t sue. He ignored two signs: CLOSED when he ducked the rope and IF LIFT IS RUNNING AND UNATTENDED DO NOT LOAD when he boarded that chairlift.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:36:14pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Yeah, completely self inflicted. Dumbass.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:36:14pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh hell. He would do that, wouldn’t he?

Fucking idiot.

He is in possession of a special kind of stupid.

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teleskiguy  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:40:24pm

re: #178 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, completely self inflicted. Dumbass.

It was all over the ski magazines in those days. One of those egregious fuck-ups that skiers read about, talk about - and in my case because of some comment on LGF - remember.

I should do a search for an article about that. I’m pretty tired, though.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:46:51pm

re: #167 Decatur Deb

accidental discharge of firearms

There is no such thing as an accidental discharge of a firearm.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:50:24pm
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:52:34pm

re: #182 Joe Bacon

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What? I have heard nothing of next year’s budget for DoVA being reduced.

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ausador  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:54:38pm

Bernie’s campaign still encouraging DNC conspiracy theories…

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 8:58:10pm

re: #181 Eric The Fruit Bat

There is no such thing as an accidental discharge of a firearm.

Take it up with Army Regulation 385-40.

cdm16635.contentdm.oclc.org

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:01:03pm

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

What? I have heard nothing of next year’s budget for DoVA being reduced.

blogs.va.gov

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:01:44pm

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

“The dirty Commies got what was coming to them!!1”

Which ironically was exactly what the commies said about the commies who disagreed with them during the Spanish Civil War. As to that subject, I highly recommend Paul Preston’s The Last Stalinist, one of my top five books of 2015. First-rate history about a third-rate character who did the most atrocious things to defend his third-rate ideology. Fascinating stuff and very well written.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:02:07pm

re: #184 ausador

Bernie’s campaign still encouraging DNC conspiracy theories…

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Sanders’ campaign is going off the tracks the same way McGovern’s did in 1972…

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Joe Bacon  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:05:28pm

Wow, the wind is now really whipping up here in Mid Wilshire! Palm leaves are flying around all over the place! Just had a couple slam against my windows…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:07:14pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

You do realize that documents is the proverbial kitchen sink document, covering just about every kind of accident conceivable?

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ausador  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:07:24pm

Tweetcecption?…

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Snarknado!  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:10:02pm

re: #65 stpaulbear

I’m going to watch A Christmas Carol with Alastair Sims this evening. I love that version, but the climactic scene where Scrooge wakes up on Christmas day has lost some of it’s magic once I noticed that the mirror Scrooge looks into reflects one of the film crew standing off set wearing a white shirt and tie. Impossible to unsee once you know it’s there.

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Curses! I was going to watch it today. Now I’m going to be thinking about the guy in the mirror all through the movie. The Ghost of Stagehands Past.

I love this version, too. The Patrick Stewart TV version from 1999 vies with the Alastair Sim version for my favorite movie treatment. The Stewart version uses dialogue from Dickens’ novella, word for word. I’ll see how close the Sim version follows the book’s dialogue.

No, no, no. That’s not a stagehand, it’s the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come, admiring his new look now that Scrooge has redeemed himself!

(I have about 13 version of Christmas Carol, and the Sims one is probably my favorite live-action one, and Mr. Magoo the best animation.)

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Decatur Deb  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:11:14pm

re: #190 Eric The Fruit Bat

You do realize that documents is the proverbial kitchen sink document, covering just about every kind of accident conceivable?

I know far more about that document than I care to remember. Had lunch today with the lady who edited the 1987 version.

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Jenner7  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:15:41pm
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:16:01pm

re: #186 Joe Bacon

blogs.va.gov

That’s not actually a budget cut. That’s the president asked for x amount more than last year for the department and Congress decided to allocate a lower amount y. The congressional decisions on where not to increase funding were in large part based on the DoVA’s continued failings. Congress is for example not too willing to allocate monies to hire new staff when the DoVA has yet to hire the staff authorized by the previous budget.

Moreover, for facilities it is entirely possible that Congress is seeing the functions the not-funded new facilities would have provided as already being covered by other non-federal facilities in the area. Understandably, the DoVA would like to keep the funds Congress is allocating for Veteran’s treatment at non-VA facilities within its own system instead, but this sometimes leads to wasteful duplication of services and that’s something Congress is right to try to prevent.

That press release is not the whole story, Joe.

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William Lewis  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:21:54pm

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

Not really a surprise to me. They’ve been there all along, usually camouflaged as supporters of the Pinochet regime. It was always PC to support the Chilean fascists thanks to Nixon but the language was always tying back to admiration of the thugs of nationalist Spain.

Like Orwell, I have no love for what the Soviets did to the Republican cause but the evil that was Franco was no better for anyone.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:25:52pm

re: #196 William Lewis

Not really a surprise to me. They’ve been there all along, usually camouflaged as supporters of the Pinochet regime. It was always PC to support the Chilean fascists thanks to Nixon but the language was always tying back to admiration of the thugs of nationalist Spain.

Like Orwell, I have no love for what the Soviets did to the Republican cause but the evil that was Franco was no better for anyone.

Agreed. I just thought it useful to let you know about this schmuck as “Know the Enemy” information. That way if he tries to troll you online, you’ll be forewarned and thus able to cut right through his BS.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 9:35:41pm

re: #191 ausador

Tweetcecption?…

Speaking of James Woods, who can be a superb actor — check out Ted Kotcheff’s badly and sadly overlooked 1985 Canadian film Joshua Then and Now, Sergio Leone’s Once Upon A Time In America, and his scene-stealing turn in Casino — and yet he’s a compleate asshole, a good friend of mine, born and raised in Tulsa, is a terrific stage actress and a total sweetheart, but years ago we agreed not to talk about politics, not because our views clashed (I have no problem with that), but because when she talks politics it’s literally like listening to a speech over the radio by Mussolini, only not in Italian.

End of that rant, and srsly, check out Joshua Then and Now, Mordecai Richler’s adaptation of his novel. It’s one of those classics that hardly anyone, at least below the 49th parallel, got a chance to see due to bad distribution and marketing. And that asshole James Woods should’ve gotten an Oscar.

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Belafon  Dec 25, 2015 • 10:02:36pm

I got Elle King’s Love Stuff album as well. Very good.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 10:29:55pm

re: #199 Belafon

I got Elle King’s Love Stuff album as well. Very good.

Nice choice. I like her song, “Playing For Keeps.”

“Playing For Keeps”

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 10:42:26pm

re: #198 De Kolta Chair

Why are you switching gender pronouns? Am I missing something?

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 25, 2015 • 10:44:39pm

re: #201 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Why are you switching gender pronouns? Am I missing something?

My fault, I miss everything. It’s part of my charm, don’t ya know? ;-[)

Nighty night!

Huck’s Tune (from Lucky You Soundtrack)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 25, 2015 • 10:53:39pm

re: #202 De Kolta Chair

Sometimes I look for the missing element. I think something happened while you were typing your post. One “she” is a typo, but it happened repeatedly. Something threw you off of your train of thought and when you came back, you were thinking of somebody else. I’ll bet whatever it was, it lasted around 10 minutes.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2015 • 11:49:46pm
Also he has grasped the falsity of the hedonistic
attitude to life. Nearly all western thought since the
last war, certainly all “progressive” thought, has assumed
tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond
ease, security and avoidance of pain. In such a view of
life there is no room, for instance, for patriotism and
the military virtues. The Socialist who finds his children
playing with soldiers is usually upset, but he is
never able to think of a substitute for the tin soldiers;
tin pacifists somehow won’t do. Hitler, because in his
own joyless mind he feels it with exceptional strength,
knows that human beings don’t only want comfort,
safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control
and, in general, common sense; they also, at least
intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to
mention drums, flags and loyalty-parades. However
they may be as economic theories, Fascism and
Nazism are psychologically far sounder than any
hedonistic conception of life. The same is probably
true of Stalin’s militarised version of Socialism. All
three of the great dictators have enhanced their power
by imposing intolerable burdens on their peoples.
Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more
grudging way, have said to people “I offer you a good
time,” Hitler has said to them “I offer you struggle,
danger and death,” and as a result a whole nation
flings itself at his feet. Perhaps later on they will get
sick of it and change their minds, as at the end of the
last war. After a few years of slaughter and starvation
“Greatest happiness of the greatest number” is a good
slogan, but at this moment “Better an end with horror
than a horror without end” is a winner. Now that we
are fighting against the man who coined it, we ought
not to underrate its emotional appeal.

George Orwell’s review of Mein Kampf, 1940.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:02:00am

re: #204 Nyet

George Orwell’s review of Mein Kampf, 1940.

brilliant

orwell continues to amaze me with how brilliant he was

however, in regad to trump, he has left us fewer clues than hitler

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Nyet  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:03:00am

re: #205 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

This basically predicts ISIS, Donbass and whatever else.

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Nyet  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:08:36am

For your perusal, a new Chick tract:

chick.com

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William Lewis  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:21:46am

re: #207 Nyet

For your perusal, a new Chick tract:

chick.com

I’m not inclined to masochism tonight. Is it anything interesting or the usual from them?

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Nyet  Dec 26, 2015 • 1:23:14am

re: #208 William Lewis

The usual.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:30:01am

re: #164 De Kolta Chair

I like the innocence of “No kidding.” As if the pollution in China hasn’t been a big story lately. Sorta like tweeting “Shooter decimates school in Anywhere, USA. No kidding.”

To each nation its own way of killing off its own population…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 2:31:22am

re: #165 Belafon

Not knowing anything about bass, can you use the same amp with both types of guitar?

Only rule of thumb is that if you use a tube amp (rare except among afficionados) you need a separate speaker and amp so that the vibrations do not wreck the tubes.

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William Lewis  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:21:57am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s funny how tube amps have made a rather spectacular comeback in guitar amps but not so much for bass players. My guitar amp is a hand wired tube amp and was less than $350; an equivalent bass amp is much more. I wonder if it really is the vibrations? Or just that there are that many few bass players?

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Big Beautiful Door  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:33:43am

re: #126 TedStriker

IMO, one of the best screen adaptations of “A Christmas Carol” would have to be Scrooged.

Bill Murray (and pretty much his whole real-life family), Alfre Woodard, and a hell of a ensemble cast make it for me.

I like Bill Murray in everything I’ve seen him in.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:00:23am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

To each nation its own way of killing off its own population…

Got a light?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:28:49am

re: #214 Decatur Deb

Yes, I do. Right this way sir. zippo.com

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:30:51am

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

Yes, I do. Right this way sir. zippo.com

Killed more people than every AR-16 ever built.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:32:18am

what a pathetic little man:

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:33:06am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes he is.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:33:38am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

what a pathetic little man:

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This is his beauty pageant. He’s not even going to make Miss Congeniality.

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Alephnaught  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:38:26am

Radiohead released their unreleased Bond Theme for “Spectre” on Soundcloud for Christmas yesterday, and already someone’s put it together with the actual titles for the movie! (Which originally featured Sam Smith singing “Writing’s on the Wall”.)

There doesn’t appear to be any edits in the video, but it syncs up pretty well in general, considering it’s edited to a different song. I expect there will be someone slaving away on their computer today making up a tighter edit. :)

(Note- it’s a Bond Title Sequence for a Cert 12A Bond Movie, so it’s may be NSFW, depending on where you work.)

Radiohead - SPECTRE Title Sequence [HD 720p]

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:53:46am

re: #194 Jenner7

Jesus wept.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:56:59am

re: #212 William Lewis

It’s funny how tube amps have made a rather spectacular comeback in guitar amps but not so much for bass players. My guitar amp is a hand wired tube amp and was less than $350; an equivalent bass amp is much more. I wonder if it really is the vibrations? Or just that there are that many few bass players?

I assume that the range of sounds for guitars is a bit broader than that for basses.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 26, 2015 • 5:57:14am

re: #204 Nyet

Perhaps later on they will get sick of it…

And then it’s too late.

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Nyet  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:01:12am

re: #223 Romantic Heretic

And then it’s too late.

The sleep of reason produces everything from Hitler to Trump.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:11:23am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

To each nation its own way of killing off its own population…

The US capitalist elite would like to improve their current way, and also strip out some laws so that they can adapt China’s method as well since we were one of the pioneers in it who have since lost their lead.

(Happy Boxing Day everyone!)

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Botsplainer  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:14:31am

Can’t believe you guys talk about bad movies without mentioning the crapfest that is “Skidoo”.

Miserable Preminger plot with hippies, LSD and the mob, it has an ensemble cast of Jackie Gleason, Carol Channing, Frankie Avalon, Burgess Meredith, Mickey Rooney - and in his last movie, Groucho Marx.

dailymotion.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:21:34am

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

The US capitalist elite would like to improve their current way, and also strip out some laws so that they can adapt China’s method as well since we were one of the pioneers in it who have since lost their lead.

(Happy Boxing Day everyone!)

How about start by making Dec 26th a holiday as well and calling it Domestic Gun Violence Day? Bound to be a hit with all the guns and relatives floating around American households at this time of year…

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:22:58am

re: #224 Nyet

The sleep of reason produces everything from Hitler to Trump.

It’s easier to think of Hitler, Trump, Stalin, Attila and the Caesars as normal. The enlightened moments in between are painfully-cultivated aberrations.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:23:29am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How about start by making Dec 26th a holiday as well and calling it Domestic Gun Violence Day? Bound to be a hit with all the guns and relatives floating around American households at this time of year…

aka “Put Your Annoying Relative in a Box” Day?

Maybe too obvious in its purpose.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:24:53am

re: #225 Feline Fearless Leader

The US capitalist elite would like to improve their current way, and also strip out some laws so that they can adapt China’s method as well since we were one of the pioneers in it who have since lost their lead.

(Happy Boxing Day everyone!)

No, I don’t think they want that. The “capitalist elite” like having cleaner air and rivers that don’t catch fire as much as anyone else. They’re content to leave the dirty stuff in China and are glad its not in the US anymore.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:26:28am

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t think they want that. The “capitalist elite” like having cleaner air and rivers that don’t catch fire as much as anyone else. They’re content to leave the dirty stuff in China and are glad its not in the US anymore.

The elites can afford to relocate to the remaining areas with clean air and water and leave the rest of the toiling masses to choke on smog and drown in sewage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:28:38am

Clean water, like in Flint, Michigan…

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:28:40am

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t think they want that. The “capitalist elite” like having cleaner air and rivers that don’t catch fire as much as anyone else. They’re content to leave the dirty stuff in China and are glad its not in the US anymore.

Elitia is it’s own place, and those decision-makers are increasingly Chinese, Japanese and Korean.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:31:02am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Clean water, like in Flint, Michigan…

Or a river that catches fire like the Cuyahoga in Cleveland or the Calumet in Gary…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:33:17am
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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:34:18am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Or a river that catches fire like the Cuyahoga in Cleveland or the Calumet in Gary…

The industrial elite of smoky Pittsburgh spent a lot of time at their hunting and fishing retreat upstream of Johnstown, until their jury-rigged Galtian dam gave way.

en.wikipedia.org

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:39:06am

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t think they want that. The “capitalist elite” like having cleaner air and rivers that don’t catch fire as much as anyone else. They’re content to leave the dirty stuff in China and are glad its not in the US anymore.

Until someone asks them to pay for the damages to local water supply after their retaining dam on that coal ash pond fails.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:40:02am

Freedom Industries’ massive chemical spill into the Elk River in W. Va. last year that eventually traveled down the Ohio River resulting in Cincinnati and other cities closing the intakes to protect the city water supplies.

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Nojay UK  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:45:15am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

Freedom Industries’ massive chemical spill…

That’s trickle-down economics for ya.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:45:59am

re: #237 Feline Fearless Leader

Until someone asks them to pay for the damages to local water supply after their retaining dam on that coal ash pond fails.

Then they just park their assets out of reach and declare bankruptcy…

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:48:35am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Or a river that catches fire like the Cuyahoga in Cleveland or the Calumet in Gary…

The Calumet got help from there being more corporate executives in Chicago, truth to tell. The number of business leaders who attacked BP’s plan to dump mercury into Lake Michigan was important in causing the big energy firm to back off before its plan could even be rejected by the federal government.

Turns out executives don’t like piloting their yachts through polluted water and they don’t want to lose staff to water problems, either. So it is at times possible to maintain standards simply by appealing to the interests of some elites to push back against others. This is actually better than just regulation alone because it causes said elites to support and bind themselves to said regulations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:51:29am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

The Calumet got help from there being more corporate executives in Chicago, truth to tell. The number of business leaders who attacked BP’s plan to dump mercury into Lake Michigan was important in causing the big energy firm to back off before its plan could even be rejected by the federal government.

Turns out executives don’t like piloting their yachts through polluted water and they don’t want to lose staff to water problems, either. So it is at times possible to maintain standards simply by appealing to the interests of some elites to push back against others. This is actually better than just regulation alone because it causes said elites to support and bind themselves to said regulations.

It’s better than regulation alone, but without regulation it is pretty hopeless.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:55:36am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

The Calumet got help from there being more corporate executives in Chicago, truth to tell. The number of business leaders who attacked BP’s plan to dump mercury into Lake Michigan was important in causing the big energy firm to back off before its plan could even be rejected by the federal government.

Turns out executives don’t like piloting their yachts through polluted water and they don’t want to lose staff to water problems, either. So it is at times possible to maintain standards simply by appealing to the interests of some elites to push back against others. This is actually better than just regulation alone because it causes said elites to support and bind themselves to said regulations.

Without regulation that sounds an awful lot like an oligarchy/pseudo-nobility making all the meaningful decisions in their clubs and on the golf course. And I expect their “standards” for the hoi polloi are fairly low, or easily purchased in exchange for a favor or inclusion on a good deal.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 6:59:16am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It’s better than regulation alone, but without regulation it is pretty hopeless.

Agreed. The regulations were needed to prevent the dumping, but it was the massive opposition to BP’s plan from every group that mattered that ensured the regulations would not be bent.

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LastYearsMan  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:00:54am

re: #198 De Kolta Chair

Yeah, Woods was great in that. Overlooked like Richard Dreyfuss in The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz.

Sadly, my favorite Mordecai Richler novel, Barney’s Version, was turned into an absolute abortion of a movie. So horrid. Who started the rumor that Paul Giamatti can act? But the movies of Kravitz and Joshua were good fun.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:03:07am

How about that cold weather, eh???

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:03:54am

re: #246 Not a Sparkly Vampire

How about that cold weather, eh???

52 F here in Philly today. Rained yesterday, and will probably start doing so again this evening.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:05:42am

re: #245 LastYearsMan

Yeah, Woods was great in that. Overlooked like Richard Dreyfuss in The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz.

Sadly, my favorite Mordecai Richler novel, Barney’s Version, was turned into an absolute abortion of a movie. So horrid. Who started the rumor that Paul Giamatti can act? But the movies of Kravitz and Joshua were good fun.

That would be this gentleman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:07:23am

re: #243 Feline Fearless Leader

Without regulation that sounds an awful lot like an oligarchy/pseudo-nobility making all the meaningful decisions in their clubs and on the golf course. And I expect their “standards” for the hoi polloi are fairly low, or easily purchased in exchange for a favor or inclusion on a good deal.

Yes, that’s why we see so many power plants, mines, landfills and the like in all of the “elite” neighborhoods…

oh, wait….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:14:49am

oops

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:23:18am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

52 F here in Philly today. Rained yesterday, and will probably start doing so again this evening.

56 F in Frankfurt and sunny.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:23:43am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

oops

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It looks like the truck was too big and heavy for the bridge, which is very old for an iron bridge:

The iron truss bridge was built in 1880 by the Cleveland Bridge & Iron Company.

Edited.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:24:30am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

It looks like the truck was big and heavy for the bridge, which is very old for an iron bridge:

The iron truss bridge was built in 1880 by the Cleveland Bridge & Iron Company.

The truck was too big. It got stuck on the bridge.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:25:27am

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alabama. Must be one of those strict gun control states.

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harlequinade  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:29:33am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

oops

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Was I the only one to giggle at “Semi,” while thinking “What would a full on, do!?”

I…I’ll get me coat.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:33:48am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

It looks like the truck was too big and heavy for the bridge, which is very old for an iron bridge:

The iron truss bridge was built in 1880 by the Cleveland Bridge & Iron Company.

Edited.

PIMF

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darthstar  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:36:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:36:33am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:37:55am

I hope you all had a great holiday! We’ve had a, shall we say, trying couple of weeks.

Hard drive on the laptop had be replaced. Lost everything, but was smart enough to back up my photos after the first issue a few weeks back.

My daughter caught her husband of not quite two years cheating on her. Three days ago. The same day that her oldest child’s dad (with whom he had been living so he could attend a slightly better school) dumped him off at her house with none of his clothes because their building was ordered evacuated by the health department. Bedbugs.Twelve apartments covered in them in that building. His stepmom threw all his clothes and shoes away. All he had was the clothes on his back and his school backpack. He may be allowed to get his PS3, books and some of his other stuff back later, but the kid has a total of 4 outfits now. So I went and purchased all I could afford to (with the gift card my mom in law sent me for Christmas) and will send it out on Monday.

Let’s just say I am glad the holidays are nearly over. I got nothing from anyone, didn’t decorate, didn’t cook. I baked some cookies and a from scratch cake. I give up. No one comes to see us, we’re never invited anywhere and I give gifts which are NEVER reciprocated. I know, that’s not the reason for giving, but it’s a little disconcerting, let’s just say. Bah Humbug. I quit. I used to be one of those Martha Stewart type women at holiday time. I had THREE trees, decorated the hearth, made all this food, ran myself stupid. No. More. This year I did the bare minimum and we ate at a crappy buffet (which I will NOT do again, I’ll cook rather than wade through that nastiness again)and I took my dog out into the yard and cried. I give up.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:45:07am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This one is from a Russian fellow who intends to dominate the coverage of the Donbass with one of the key mediums of the internet, that medium being cat photos:

I was going to post this one today anyways, given that its Caturday and I like the image of a sleigh full of cats.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:49:00am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

{A Mom Anon}

This is one reason a lot of people have trouble this season. The gray of oncoming winter and shorter days, and increased stress dealing with a holiday that is supposed to be happy happy happy and also complex if you’re organizing it. Plus the hassle with the stores being crowded, etc.

The holiday stays pretty low-key in my family. Relatively few of us, shared cooking chores, and we’re not extreme decorators.

And I have experienced the bed bug thing. Luckily here it was caught at an early stage, and not after they had spread and heavily colonized a chunk of the building.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:49:32am

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

This one is from a Russian fellow who intends to dominate the coverage of the Donbass with one of the key mediums of the internet, that medium being cat photos:

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I was going to post this one today anyways, given that its Caturday and I like the image of a sleigh full of cats.

Winterized cats with full coats I see.

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Belafon  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:50:14am

re: #247 Feline Fearless Leader

52 F here in Philly today. Rained yesterday, and will probably start doing so again this evening.

It’s supposed to be 73 in DFW today, then 55 tomorrow, then 41 on Monday.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:50:30am

An ISIS supply route between Turkey and Raqqa has been taken:

QAMISHLI, Syria: An alliance of Kurdish and Arab rebels seized a key dam on the Euphrates River from Daesh group jihadists in northern Syria on Saturday, the group said.
The Syrian Democratic Forces captured Tishreen Dam after intense clashes with Daesh, as well as seven villages along the river’s eastern bank, spokesman Talal Sello told AFP.
He said dozens of Daesh fighters had been killed.
The dam, held by Daesh since 2014, helps generate electricity for large parts of the northern Aleppo province.
arabnews.com

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:50:34am

re: #147 teleskiguy

A fascinating map based on a peer-reviewed CDC paper.

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(Upding for teleskiguy)

Great Snapshot:

[…] Some of the findings make intuitive sense (influenza in some northern states, pneumoconioses in coal-mining states, air and water accidents in Alaska and Idaho), while the explanations for others are less immediately apparent (septicemia in New Jersey, deaths by legal intervention in 3 Western states)[…]

[…] A limitation of this map is that it depicts only 1 distinctive cause of death for each state. All of these were significantly higher than the national rate, but there were many others also significantly higher than the national rate that were not mapped. The map is also predisposed to showing rare causes of death — for 22 of the states, the total number of deaths mapped was under 100. Using broader cause-of-death categories or requiring a higher threshold for the number of deaths would result in a different map. These limitations are characteristic of maps generally and are why these maps are best regarded as snapshots and not comprehensive statistical summaries (5)[…]

The Most Distinctive Causes of Death by State, 2001-2010

cdc.gov

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:50:36am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

{{{ A Mon Anon }}} I hope everything works out for you.

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dholmes32  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:55:51am

re: #194 Jenner7

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Well, at least it wasn’t a shooting and nobody was hurt. My boyfriend is convinced some asshat with a gun is going to lose it and shoot up Friday prayers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:59:22am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

re: #261 Feline Fearless Leader

This is why I have no patience for the idiots who scream about War on Christmas and get all bent out of shape because some people do not say Merry Christmas or get enthusiastic enough about the season.
There are perfectly legitimate reasons for preferring not to celebrate the holiday and it’s nobody else’s business.

Nothing more than bullies.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 7:59:26am

Something frightening that was noticed yesterday.

A Ginger Ted Cruz is loose in the world of board gaming.

It’s Ginger TED!
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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:00:23am

re: #262 Feline Fearless Leader

Winterized cats with full coats I see.

Yes, it can get very cold in that part of the world in December, so cats tend to grow long coats for the winter. This means their staff needs to brush them daily.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:02:47am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

I feel you Mom. I wasn’t filled with a lot of joy this year either. I sometimes feel pressured by the day and this was one of those years. Sometimes the real gets in the way of trying to feel any great spirit.

Believe me, I understand crying Christmas day. It is a real feeling, sometimes more real than the joy many claim. People need to appreciate it and if you want to give any gift, a little understanding can go a long long way. Stay strong Mom. It is the strong that have true feelings and let them out. If you were uncaring, you wouldn’t feel the way you do.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:03:14am
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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:05:38am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is why I have no patience for the idiots who scream about War on Christmas and get all bent out of shape because some people do not say Merry Christmas or get enthusiastic enough about the season.
There are perfectly legitimate reasons for preferring not to celebrate the holiday and it’s nobody else’s business.

Nothing more than bullies.

Madison Avenue and 5th Avenue started the War on Christmas in the early XX Cent. They’ve just about finished it off. We need a humane winter holiday, but this one has become pathological.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:06:19am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes. I usually stick to wishing people “Happy Holiday.” For the most part people accept it for what it is.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:06:40am

re: #264 jaunte

Good stuff. The @AFP Twitter feed also had this other photo from Syria I enjoyed of Santa and his little helpers:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:07:21am
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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:08:43am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

Yes. I usually stick to wishing people “Happy Holiday.” For the most part people accept it for what it is.

If I know what you celebrate, that’s what I wish you. Otherwise default to Generic.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:09:43am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

::: shudder ::: That looks very bad. I hope everyone has their generators ready to go and extra food supplies.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:12:50am

re: #278 PhillyPretzel

::: shudder ::: That looks very bad. I hope everyone has their generators ready to go and extra food supplies.

Hopefully the funds weren’t spent on guns, ammo, and fancy open carry holsters.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:13:19am

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

My major complaint with it is what kind of Ski Resort worth its salt would NOT you know, DOUBLE check to make sure the lifts were clear before shutting down? With lawsuits and insurance issues at risk, it seems like a no-brainer. I know obviously that would have defeated the purpose of the movie, but if I’m suspending disbelief on something I like it to be logical whenever possible.

As long as humans are in charge, it’s possible.

I’ve skied a little, and have no experience with folk being stranded on ski lifts.

I have worked cases where scuba tourist dive boats have left dive sites with divers left in the water.

You would think that a dive boat captain would do a simple head count of persons on board to prevent that from happening.

Where as on a long and possibly out of sight ski lift section that could happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:14:15am

re: #278 PhillyPretzel

::: shudder ::: That looks very bad. I hope everyone has their generators ready to go and extra food supplies.

That’s how Shiplord spent his Christmas in Lubbock.

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nines09  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:19:02am

re: #152 Belafon

I told my wife I wanted to learn to play bass guitar, and she bought me this:

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I need to find an inexpensive amp.

Play Sweetwater and Musicians Fiend off against each other on price matching. Fee Bay has some decent deals at times.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:20:39am
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calochortus  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:28:25am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

{{{A Mom Anon}}}

I’m sorry things didn’t go well for Christmas. Expectations do not always equal reality. You are not personally responsible for making everything merry, even though sometimes it feels that way.

We had a perfectly nice Christmas here-a few decorations, a few gifts, and the center of the celebration-dinner for the kids, a son-in-law, his parents, my brother and sister-in-law and the Jewish neighbors. Hours of work, but lovely. But, I was in no way feeling Christmas-y this year. Early on I decided what was important to me (family dinner) and focused on that and was very happy with it.
You may find something different that will make you happy. Forget the rest.

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:30:01am

re: #212 William Lewis

It’s funny how tube amps have made a rather spectacular comeback in guitar amps but not so much for bass players. My guitar amp is a hand wired tube amp and was less than $350; an equivalent bass amp is much more. I wonder if it really is the vibrations? Or just that there are that many few bass players?

Bass players tend to want cleaner tone for their instruments, and apply distortion situationally. Solid state amps are much better suited for delivering a clean tone than tube amps, which will distort by nature of the glowing bottles therein.

Power ratings are also important for keeping distortion down. If a bass player played through a 10 watt tube amp, for example, distortion would be inevitable. A higher-wattage tube amp gives the player more ‘headroom’ before distortion occurs, providing more power and volume.

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calochortus  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:30:23am

re: #279 Feline Fearless Leader

Hopefully the funds weren’t spent on guns, ammo, and fancy open carry holsters.

They can just stand their ground and shoot the storm. Problem solved.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:33:34am
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:34:15am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is sad. :( The world is a sadder place without music.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:38:21am

Wife is a Christmas addict, and goes all out to make it a major undertaking. My only requirement is a live tree, which usually stays up until New Year’s Day. (Travel to Birmingham means this year’s comes down today.) At least we flex the celebration date a week or so to accommodate everyone’s schedule. Sometimes, like this year, that means grilling 3-4 turkeys from TG—Christmas.

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Teukka  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:41:19am

So this came under my nose a coupla moments ago. Sorry if it already has been posted here. Also, be aware it is trippy and may be seizure-causing:
Image: tumblr_nzqhjx1uG81tre1zbo1_540.gif

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calochortus  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:41:27am

You say “grilling 3-4 turkeys” like that’s a bad thing. ;)
We had 3 Thanksgivings this year. And not one complaint about it.

Must clean up the remnants of last night’s festivities.
BBL

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:42:19am

We took our oldest cat to the animal hospital this morning, because he’s not doing well. He’s lost a lot of weight and muscle mass, though he remains alert and every bit as stubborn as he’s been for his whole life.

The doctor told us that his chances of pulling out of this are about 10%, but we went for blood work and rehydration anyway. He was in a similar situation nine years ago - the doctor gave him a 10% chance then of recovering from diabetic shock - and not only did he come back, but his diabetes completely went away.

My wife and I are trying to be careful not to make this about us and not the cat, but Zoey is a tough old animal, and I was sure he was going to check out the last time he wandered up to the Bridge and he surprised us. I’ll take one more chance with the big guy, and we’ll know better which way to go tomorrow. For all the joy he’s given us for the 14 years he’s been in our lives, I think we owe him that. If we need to say goodbye, we will. But where there’s life there’s hope. Cross your fingers for our old man cat.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:44:06am

re: #291 calochortus

You say “grilling 3-4 turkeys” like that’s a bad thing. ;)
We had 3 Thanksgivings this year. And not one complaint about it.

Must clean up the remnants of last night’s festivities.
BBL

Not bad at all—we freeze quarts of turkey soup made from the drippings and carcasses. By the third, we offer a ham option with it.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:44:20am

re: #292 makeitstop

We took our oldest cat to the animal hospital this morning, because he’s not doing well. He’s lost a lot of weight and muscle mass, though he remains alert and every bit as stubborn as he’s been for his whole life.

The doctor told us that his chances of pulling out of this are about 10%, but we went for blood work and rehydration anyway. He was in a similar situation nine years ago - the doctor gave him a 10% chance then of recovering from diabetic shock - and not only did he come back, but his diabetes completely went away.

My wife and I are trying to be careful not to make this about us and not the cat, but Zoey is a tough old animal, and I was sure he was going to check out the last time he wandered up to the Bridge and he surprised us. I’ll take one more chance with the big guy, and we’ll know better which way to go tomorrow. For all the joy he’s given us for the 14 years he’s been in our lives, I think we owe him that. If we need to say goodbye, we will. But where there’s life there’s hope. Cross your fingers for our old man cat.

I’ll cross my fingers and my toes, too.

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:45:39am

re: #294 Dark_Falcon

I’ll cross my fingers and my toes, too.

Thank you, Dark.

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Nyet  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:46:24am

re: #290 Teukka

So this came under my nose a coupla moments ago. Sorry if it already has been posted here. Also, be aware it is trippy and may be seizure-causing:
Image: tumblr_nzqhjx1uG81tre1zbo1_540.gif

Fhtagn.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:51:51am

One nice thing about Christmas day being over is most of the commercials go away. No more need to wonder why I am not getting a new car from someone. I’ve never gotten a new car on Christmas. I do not fit in this commercial world. ///

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 8:58:08am

re: #297 ObserverArt

One nice thing about Christmas day being over is most of the commercials go away. No more need to wonder why I am not getting a new car from someone. I’ve never gotten a new car on Christmas. I do not fit in this commercial world. ///

I meant to get you a new car, but I couldn’t suss out how to wrap the stupid thing.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:01:59am

re: #298 makeitstop

I meant to get you a new car, but I couldn’t suss out how to wrap the stupid thing.

Awww. A huge red bow and big ribbons would have been enough!

Oh…and good wishes for your cat’s health.

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PT Barnum  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:02:01am

re: #298 makeitstop

I meant to get you a new car, but I couldn’t suss out how to wrap the stupid thing.

I got my son a new car. It fit in a box 1”x3”
Classic Matchbox I found at a swap shop

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:03:29am

Leaving the cover of dog whistles for more open expressions of racism is having a measurable effect.

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Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:05:49am

So yesterday I learned from my crazy uncle that YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN BUILDING 7!!! and SANDY HOOK WAS A HOAX!!!

The Sandy Hook bullshit really sent me over the edge and I even raised my voice. Tell the parents of the twenty dead kids it was a hoax, for fuck’s sake.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:05:55am

re: #301 ausador

Leaving the cover of dog whistles for more open expressions of racism is having a measurable effect.

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That’s a good thing. Someone wake the Chief Justice.

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sagehen  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:07:27am

re: #230 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t think they want that. The “capitalist elite” like having cleaner air and rivers that don’t catch fire as much as anyone else. They’re content to leave the dirty stuff in China and are glad its not in the US anymore.

Bullshit. Why do you think they’re working so hard against the EPA?

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Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:07:39am

Oh, and then I also learned from my new step-dad (another wingnut) that the constitution was based on the ten commandments, and after the fall of the Soviet Union there are 60 suitcases filled with nuclear bombs floating around. Somewhere.

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PT Barnum  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:11:28am

re: #305 Kid A

Oh, and then I also learned from my new step-dad (another wingnut) that the constitution was based on the ten commandments, and after the fall of the Soviet Union there are 60 suitcases filled with nuclear bombs floating around. Somewhere.

They used to call people who believed swap like that cranks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:15:06am

re: #305 Kid A

Oh, and then I also learned from my new step-dad (another wingnut) that the constitution was based on the ten commandments, and after the fall of the Soviet Union there are 60 suitcases filled with nuclear bombs floating around. Somewhere.

They’re the ones you see in airports, the orphan bags on the carousel that nobody ever takes, that are there before the other bags come down the chute and are still there after the last one has been snagged by the poor schmo who’s been standing there wating for his bag for 20 minutes.

They’re in every airport, everywhere. But since they were built by Communists, they don’t work. Shoddy workmanship, by workers who realized that they didn’t get any more stuff no matter how hard they worked….

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:15:08am

Boy it is a good thing the police got called…
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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:15:40am

re: #302 Kid A

So yesterday I learned from my crazy uncle that YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN BUILDING 7!!! and SANDY HOOK WAS A HOAX!!!

The Sandy Hook bullshit really sent me over the edge and I even raised my voice. Tell the parents of the twenty dead kids it was a hoax, for fuck’s sake.

I wonder…what does it take for someone to say Sandy Hook did not happen and that it was all a hoax? Do you have to love guns that much so that everything that comes out about guns being a problem is automatically a step on that slippery slope?

Geez…I think people that think that way are already on a slippery slope. It’s called denial of reality and closing your mind completely. Not a good thing for the person or the society.

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gwangung  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:17:04am

re: #308 ausador

Boy it is a good thing the police got called…
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One of them was the downstairs neighbor, who got told to stay out of the way, and did…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:19:45am

re: #308 ausador

Boy it is a good thing the police got called…
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My brother says “There’s no situation that can’t be made worse by police”, which I used to think was a terrible thing to say, but since Ferguson and Baltimore and especially poor Sandra Bland, I understand what he means. It’s not that police automatically make things worse. It’s that a lot of them, motivated by the wrong things, DO make things worse when they could make them better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:23:44am

re: #308 ausador

Chicago police say officer fatally shot 2 people while responding to domestic disturbance call:

So Domestic Gun Violence Day is catching on already…

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ausador  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:24:47am

re: #310 gwangung

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:28:06am

re: #305 Kid A

Oh, and then I also learned from my new step-dad (another wingnut) that the constitution was based on the ten commandments, and after the fall of the Soviet Union there are 60 suitcases filled with nuclear bombs floating around. Somewhere.

Last night I fond out that there is a lot more creeping wingnut-ism in our family than I thought.

I smoked way more than I should have last night because I was the designated driver and it kept getting more difficult to hold my tongue, so I kept ducking out to have a smoke when the urge to call a family member stupid got too strong to resist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:32:44am

re: #305 Kid A

Oh, and then I also learned from my new step-dad (another wingnut) that the constitution was based on the ten commandments, and after the fall of the Soviet Union there are 60 suitcases filled with nuclear bombs floating around. Somewhere.

I remember being instructed at Christmas (in 1980 or 81) by a relative that there was an entire Soviet armored division stationed in Nicaragua just waiting to roll north across our undefended southern border.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:32:54am

re: #309 ObserverArt

I wonder…what does it take for someone to say Sandy Hook did not happen and that it was all a hoax? Do you have to love guns that much so that everything that comes out about guns being a problem is automatically a step on that slippery slope?

Geez…I think people that think that way are already on a slippery slope. It’s called denial of reality and closing your mind completely. Not a good thing for the person or the society.

The initial infection point for the SANDY HOOK WAS A HOAX!!!11 (hereafter ‘SHWAH’) conspiracy theory was in pro-gun people but its rate of infection among people who actually go to the range and shoot their guns is fairly low, mostly because almost all pro-gun orgs and gun-oriented sites are hostile to this theory and many will ban those who try to propagate it. As a result, its currently popular mostly with “The US Government is behind all crises!!1” types of conspiracists and with mall ninjas who mostly bought their guns out of fear of President Obama, Muslims, and/or black people.

The primary drivers of SHWAH nowadays are ODS and a refusal to admit that people can do very bad things for little or no reason.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:36:37am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I remember being instructed at Christmas (in 1979) by a relative that there was an entire Soviet armored division stationed in Nicaragua just waiting to roll north across our undefended southern border.

In fact the only tanks the Soviet Union sent to Nicaragua were T-55s. The M48A5s and M60A1s that the Texas National Guard fielded back then would have turned T-55s to scrap iron in open terrain. That Quasi-Bircher who told you that must also have been a Military No-Nothing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:37:25am

OMG, they can see the hole in Russia’s budget from here:

Oil’s Decline Threatens to Revive Alaska’s Income Tax After 35 Years

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:38:25am

re: #317 Dark_Falcon

In fact the only tanks the Soviet Union sent to Nicaragua were T-55s. The M48A5s and M60A1s that the Texas National Guard fielded back then would have turned T-55s to scrap iron in open terrain. That Quasi-Bircher who told you that must also have been a Military No-Nothing.

I told him that there was nothing to worry about, the Russian tankers would all stop at the Mexican border and abandon their ammo to make room for cheap souveniers and bottles of tequila and Kahlua

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:40:05am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I remember being instructed at Christmas (in 1980 or 81) by a relative that there was an entire Soviet armored division stationed in Nicaragua just waiting to roll north across our undefended southern border.

And somehow, during the entire 2200 mile trip from Nicaragua, through Guatemala and the entire length of Mexico, nobody would notice them?

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A Mom Anon  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:40:31am

Thanks for all the well wishes. I hope there were lots of you who had good times with family and friends. I need something else to do this time of year I think. My own kids got me nothing, the daughter I get, she’s poor and her marriage is falling to bits. But the son? He has no excuse. He’s working and he works at a STORE in a shopping center. I know it’s not about the gifts, trust me, I’ve been teaching that lesson since forever ago. But shit, I really thought I raised a more generous soul than this with my son. I’m very sad about that. It’s kind of heartbreaking in a way. And now it’s time to go walk the dog and clean and do laundry and all the regular things again….thanks for listening. And if you got something cool and special, share, I’d love to see what people did or got or where they went. (((((hugs))))))

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:40:48am

re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White

And somehow, during the entire 2200 mile trip from Nicaragua, through Guatemala and the entire length of Mexico, nobody would notice them?

They would be buried under piles of flowers tossed at them by the local residents…

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b_sharp  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:44:20am

re: #321 A Mom Anon

Thanks for all the well wishes. I hope there were lots of you who had good times with family and friends. I need something else to do this time of year I think. My own kids got me nothing, the daughter I get, she’s poor and her marriage is falling to bits. But the son? He has no excuse. He’s working and he works at a STORE in a shopping center. I know it’s not about the gifts, trust me, I’ve been teaching that lesson since forever ago. But shit, I really thought I raised a more generous soul than this with my son. I’m very sad about that. It’s kind of heartbreaking in a way. And now it’s time to go walk the dog and clean and do laundry and all the regular things again….thanks for listening. And if you got something cool and special, share, I’d love to see what people did or got or where they went. (((((hugs))))))

I feel your pain. Our daughter hung up on V when she tried to call her, & we haven’t seen our 4 yr old grandson for a year. Kids can get wrapped up in the same emotional nonsense we try to educate them to avoid. It happens, unfortunately and the pain we feel in response is quite real.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:45:16am

re: #316 Dark_Falcon

The initial infection point for the SANDY HOOK WAS A HOAX!!!11 (hereafter ‘SHWAH’) conspiracy theory was in pro-gun people but its rate of infection among people who actually go to the range and shoot their guns is fairly low, mostly because almost all pro-gun orgs and gun-oriented sites are hostile to this theory and many will ban those who try to propagate it. As a result, its currently popular mostly with “The US Government is behind all crises!!1” types of conspiracists and with mall ninjas who mostly bought their guns out of fear of President Obama, Muslims, and/or black people.

The primary drivers of SHWAH nowadays are ODS and a refusal to admit that people can do very bad things for little or no reason.

I have no patience for Conspiracy Theorists. There’s absolutely no intellectual rigor, no testing of hypotheses, just cherrypicking reality to match what they want to believe.

All put together, most CTs would require hundreds or thousands of people to ALL be in on it, and NOT ONE to have second thoughts and figure out how to get the documented evidence out? And when you ask the Theorists why anyone would go to all that trouble, the reasoning behind it is always ludicrously weak. Like Sandy Hook - the Obama Administration put the whole thing together just to make Americans more amenable to gun control.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:48:38am

re: #324 Blind Frog Belly White

I have no patience for Conspiracy Theorists. There’s absolutely no intellectual rigor, no testing of hypotheses, just cherrypicking reality to match what they want to believe.

All put together, most CTs would require hundreds or thousands of people to ALL be in on it, and NOT ONE to have second thoughts and figure out how to get the documented evidence out? And when you ask the Theorists why anyone would go to all that trouble, the reasoning behind it is always ludicrously weak. Like Sandy Hook - the Obama Administration put the whole thing together just to make Americans more amenable to gun control.

I have no patience for them either and online I openly ridicule them. But its important to know who is likely to believe a given conspiracy theory and why they would believe it in order to recognize and contain such BS.

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Dark_Falcon  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:48:48am

BBL

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:52:29am

re: #314 makeitstop

Last night I fond out that there is a lot more creeping wingnut-ism in our family than I thought.

I smoked way more than I should have last night because I was the designated driver and it kept getting more difficult to hold my tongue, so I kept ducking out to have a smoke when the urge to call a family member stupid got too strong to resist.

I do believe a certain ‘politician’ that is very boisterous, arrogant, and orange is giving many the ‘right’ to be able to let it all out. They have been acting too politically correct for too long, now it is okay just to let out the hate. The Triumph of Trump.

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Snarknado!  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:54:48am

re: #321 A Mom Anon

Thanks for all the well wishes. I hope there were lots of you who had good times with family and friends. I need something else to do this time of year I think. My own kids got me nothing, the daughter I get, she’s poor and her marriage is falling to bits. But the son? He has no excuse. He’s working and he works at a STORE in a shopping center. I know it’s not about the gifts, trust me, I’ve been teaching that lesson since forever ago. But shit, I really thought I raised a more generous soul than this with my son. I’m very sad about that. It’s kind of heartbreaking in a way. And now it’s time to go walk the dog and clean and do laundry and all the regular things again….thanks for listening. And if you got something cool and special, share, I’d love to see what people did or got or where they went. (((((hugs))))))

Get him a card for his next birthday and tell him you think his “no presents” policy is a good idea. (We don’t exchange gifts much in my family, but that was a joint decision.)

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:54:50am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

*HUGS*

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thedopefishlives  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:57:41am

re: #259 A Mom Anon

{{{hugs}}}

I am having a great holiday. Fishfolk, for all their faults on the wingnut end of the spectrum, are genuinely good, generous people.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:57:47am

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

I have no patience for them either and online I openly ridicule them. But its important to know who is likely to believe a given conspiracy theory and why they would believe it in order to recognize and contain such BS.

A friend of mine whom I always thought of as very intelligent and rational leaves all that behind when discussing Global Warming. Here is a guy who will immediately ding a Creationist who thinks he can debunk Evolution by attacking Darwin, but who thinks he can debunk Global Warming by attacking Phil Jones. He laughs at the idea that Biologists pretend to believe in Evolution because they want to 1) keep that sweet, sweet grant money, and 2) ‘destroy God’ so they can sin with impunity. But asked about the motivations of Climate Scientists to all like, he says it’s because they want to 1) keep that sweet, sweet grant money, and 2) destroy Capitalism - though he can’t ever say why they want to do that.

I think Conspiracy Theorists are often people who subconsciously realize that something they want desperately to not be true is in fact true, so they retreat into CT because it allows them to deny the thing the fear is true. Confirmation bias writ large.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:59:41am

re: #330 thedopefishlives

{{{hugs}}}

I am having a great holiday. Fishfolk, for all their faults on the wingnut end of the spectrum, are genuinely good, generous people.

That’s one of the hardest things - so many people who believe horrible things and support horrible policies, and often are terribly racist are otherwise sweet, funny, giving people.

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:59:44am

re: #327 ObserverArt

I do believe a certain ‘politician’ that is very boisterous, arrogant, and orange is giving many the ‘right’ to be able to let it all out. They have been acting too politically correct for too long, now it is okay just to let out the hate. The Triumph of Trump.

I heard that phrase from three different family members last night. The conditioning is going according to plan.

Each time I heard it, I wanted to scream but ended up lighting up a Red instead.

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Snarknado!  Dec 26, 2015 • 9:59:52am

re: #292 makeitstop

We took our oldest cat to the animal hospital this morning, because he’s not doing well. He’s lost a lot of weight and muscle mass, though he remains alert and every bit as stubborn as he’s been for his whole life.

The doctor told us that his chances of pulling out of this are about 10%, but we went for blood work and rehydration anyway. He was in a similar situation nine years ago - the doctor gave him a 10% chance then of recovering from diabetic shock - and not only did he come back, but his diabetes completely went away.

My wife and I are trying to be careful not to make this about us and not the cat, but Zoey is a tough old animal, and I was sure he was going to check out the last time he wandered up to the Bridge and he surprised us. I’ll take one more chance with the big guy, and we’ll know better which way to go tomorrow. For all the joy he’s given us for the 14 years he’s been in our lives, I think we owe him that. If we need to say goodbye, we will. But where there’s life there’s hope. Cross your fingers for our old man cat.

It’s always hard. When one of my cats had kidney failure, I nursed her along for almost a year because she seemed to be enjoying her life — but I wonder to this day whether I waited too long. Another stopped eating, and turned out to have inoperable stomach cancer. I tried chemo for a bit, but after two weeks she wasn’t responding, ate and drank nothing I didn’t force down her throat, and was so weak she had trouble getting to her litter box, so I decided she was done.

Both of those “cases” were cats about eight years old — your Zoey has had a splendid run no matter how it ends.

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BeachDem  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:00:18am

re: #302 Kid A

So yesterday I learned from my crazy uncle that YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN BUILDING 7!!! and SANDY HOOK WAS A HOAX!!!

The Sandy Hook bullshit really sent me over the edge and I even raised my voice. Tell the parents of the twenty dead kids it was a hoax, for fuck’s sake.

Bah, humbug. That’s why, by choice, I spend Christmas alone, at home. (Not near my family, and prefer not to spend the day with someone else’s crazies.) Binge watched Season 1 of House of Cards; made a turkey breast; ate when I wanted to and pretty much ignored the whole thing. Not my holiday anyway, but it’s hard to avoid, except by being a hermit.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:03:50am

re: #333 makeitstop

I heard that phrase from three different family members last night. The conditioning is going according to plan.

Each time I heard it, I wanted to scream but ended up lighting up a Red instead.

Oh yeah. It is Conservative Phrase Number 1 with a bullet on the Hit a Liberal Parade!

I know we have a New Year coming up…and truth be told, I am worried that it is not going to be a happy one…much to do with the political climate. Yeah, it too is warming. And with Trump and the beasts he is releasing the political hot air is heating up way too rapidly.

I hope I am wrong, but the forecast does not look good.

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BeachDem  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:04:30am

re: #314 makeitstop

Last night I fond out that there is a lot more creeping wingnut-ism in our family than I thought.

I smoked way more than I should have last night because I was the designated driver and it kept getting more difficult to hold my tongue, so I kept ducking out to have a smoke when the urge to call a family member stupid got too strong to resist.

I do that on Thanksgiving (the smoking bit.) When wingnut brother and wife get going, I head outside. I always end up with a nicotine headache, but at least there are no fistfights.

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sagehen  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:05:21am

re: #328 Snarknado!

Get him a card for his next birthday and tell him you think his “no presents” policy is a good idea. (We don’t exchange gifts much in my family, but that was a joint decision.)

On my mom’s 40th birthday, she informed us that henceforth she didn’t want “another thing to have to dust” for a present ever again. Birthdays, hannukah, anniversaries, mother’s day. The only presents she ever wanted again were “do something” presents — theater tickets, restaurant dinners, picnic in a pretty place, lessons of some kind. (although she did accept the big emerald dad gave her for their 25th; she designed the setting herself and we helped her find a goldsmith to construct what became known as the vastly delayed engagement ring.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:06:02am

re: #337 BeachDem

I do that on Thanksgiving (the smoking bit.) When wingnut brother and wife get going, I head outside. I always end up with a nicotine headache, but at least there are no fistfights.

It is assumed that those who object to racist, offensive speech want to ban it. That is not necessarily the case, they just want the people who utter it feel the real-life consequences of their bigoted, hateful speech.

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gwangung  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:07:26am

re: #317 Dark_Falcon

That Quasi-Bircher who told you that must also have been a Military No-Nothing.

Isn’t that a redundancy?

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makeitstop  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:08:29am

re: #334 Snarknado!

It’s always hard. When one of my cats had kidney failure, I nursed her along for almost a year because she seemed to be enjoying her life — but I wonder to this day whether I waited too long. Another stopped eating, and turned out to have inoperable stomach cancer. I tried chemo for a bit, but after two weeks she wasn’t responding, ate and drank nothing I didn’t force down her throat, and was so weak she had trouble getting to her litter box, so I decided she was done.

Both of those “cases” were cats about eight years old — your Zoey has had a splendid run no matter how it ends.

The doctor cautiously suggested that liver failure might be the culprit here, and that’s what it looks like to me. He’s been eating less and drinking a lot more water in the past week.

The doubts of whether you’re keeping an animal alive for them or your own comfort weighs heavy with us, my wife especially. She’s the one who would take in every stray, feed every straggler, and give zero fucks about the expense or impracticality. We brought Zoey to bed with us last night, tried to make him as comfortable as we could, and talked about the difficult decision we may have to make, and we’re both okay with it.

We’ll ride it out unless we’re told that he’s too far gone. But goddamn, I’m going to miss that cat if that turns out to be the case.

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Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:09:39am

I forgot that my wingnut step-dad also wants to cut the government by “at least 30%.” (and when asked what gets cut he had no idea, but not the military of course!!!!) I pointed out that real people would be affected such as a massive loss of jobs in the government from those cuts. His response? “They’ll have to find a real job then.”

Oh fuck off.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:12:03am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is assumed that those who object to racist, offensive speech want to ban it. That is not necessarily the case, they just want the people who utter it feel the real-life consequences of their bigoted, hateful speech.

You have no right not to be offended, but god forbid you say “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:15:36am

re: #342 Kid A

I forgot that my wingnut step-dad also wants to cut the government by “at least 30%.” (and when asked what gets cut he had no idea, but not the military of course!!!!) I pointed out that real people would be affected such as a massive loss of jobs in the government from those cuts. His response? “They’ll have to find a real job then.”

Oh fuck off.

A “real job” being, among other things, one where you can be fired at a moment’s notice at the whim of a manager, or as a result of (or an attempt to cover up) one of his mistakes.

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Snarknado!  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:16:25am

re: #338 sagehen

On my mom’s 40th birthday, she informed us that henceforth she didn’t want “another thing to have to dust” for a present ever again. Birthdays, hannukah, anniversaries, mother’s day. The only presents she ever wanted again were “do something” presents — theater tickets, restaurant dinners, picnic in a pretty place, lessons of some kind. (although she did accept the big emerald dad gave her for their 25th; she designed the setting herself and we helped her find a goldsmith to construct what became known as the vastly delayed engagement ring.)

What a shocking sacrifice of principle. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:16:55am

re: #342 Kid A

I forgot that my wingnut step-dad also wants to cut the government by “at least 30%.” (and when asked what gets cut he had no idea, but not the military of course!!!!) I pointed out that real people would be affected such as a massive loss of jobs in the government from those cuts. His response? “They’ll have to find a real job then.”

Oh fuck off.

Then they want to add layers of bureaucracy to programs for the poor - drug testing, fraud investigators, etc. These things always add to the cost and never pay for themselves, but to them, the cost is insignificant if it might stop ONE PERSON from getting benefits he doesn’t deserve. It’s like Blackstone’s Formulation turned upside down - better that 10 deserving families starve than a single drug user get welfare!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:18:09am

re: #344 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A “real job” being, among other things, one where you can be fired at a moment’s notice at the whim of a manager, or as a result of (or an attempt to cover up) one of his mistakes.

Because businesses need ‘flexibility’, which for some reason only ever works in favor of the company….

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:19:30am

re: #346 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s like Blackstone’s Formulation turned upside down - better that 10 deserving families starve than a single drug user get welfare!

To them, there are no “deserving” families, just lazy ones…

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Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:20:35am

Obviously I’m still pretty pissed off about being subjected to this rubbish for three hours yesterday. I think that I’m going to go skiing every Christmas from now on.

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Timothy Watson  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:21:55am

This will surely infuriate people:

Pet owner has a mass removed from a dog, dog is diagnosed with terminal cancer, pet survives for months before having a seizure, pet owner prepares to take the dog to a vet to be euthanized, but the dog recovers from the seizure and seems okay, a couple days later, the dog is taken to the local Animal Shelter and is euthanzied, 11 days later the pet owner is charged with cruelty to animals and is convicted:

Travis Evans never imagined what would happen to him after he drove to the Stafford Animal Shelter July 7 to euthanize his family’s yellow Labrador retriever, Buxton.

“I was hoping to deal with the grief of losing Bux, but instead, it turned into a different story,” Evans said.

Eleven days after Buxton was euthanized, Evans was charged with animal cruelty, a class 1 misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.

A judge found Evans guilty in General District Court on Oct 7. Evans appealed and the case is headed to Circuit Court.

Evans said he likely face only a fine, but still worries about the misdemeanor on his record.

“The family had just lost their dog and now the Commonwealth of Virginia arrested their father for making the difficult decision to end Buxton’s life,” Evans’ attorney, Jason Pelt, wrote in an email. “This action by the Stafford Sheriff’s Office is a complete abuse of power.”

fredericksburg.com

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Bear  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:22:24am

Looks as if i may get to play with the snow blower later today. Don’t plan on going anywhere.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:22:38am

re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

To them, there are no “deserving” families, just lazy ones…

No, no - they generally figure the disabled are deserving. But while complaining about lack of well-paid jobs, ore even jobs generally, they don’t think able bodied people who can’t find work are deserving.

That’s what gets me - on the one hand they cite the dearth of high-paying jobs so they can blame Obama, and then they piss all over the working poor for not taking the high-paying jobs they JUST SAID don’t exist!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:39:31am

No posts in 16 minutes! Is it my breath?

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b_sharp  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:40:07am

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

No posts in 16 minutes! Is it my breath?

Yes. You smell like turkey.

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Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:40:13am

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

No posts in 16 minutes! Is it my breath?

Yes.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:40:38am

Looking back on a lot of pets, the only one we feel guilty about is the poodle we let live many months too long. We made it easy on ourselves, not him.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:41:41am

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

No posts in 16 minutes! Is it my breath?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:43:04am

re: #354 b_sharp

re: #355 Kid A

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

And here I’d hoped I’d said something so profound as to be unanswerable.

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Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:43:42am

re: #358 Blind Frog Belly White

And here I’d hoped I’d said something so profound as to be unanswerable.

Nope, sorry. =)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:44:49am

re: #359 Kid A

Nope, sorry. =)

“Captain Corcoran, it is one of the happiest characteristics of this glorious country that official utterances are invariably regarded as unanswerable.”

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:49:01am

I’ve been tasked with setting up my Mom’s new cricket phone. Brother bought it, I have to complete it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 10:51:46am

re: #356 Decatur Deb

Looking back on a lot of pets, the only one we feel guilty about is the poodle we let live many months too long. We made it easy on ourselves, not him.

And, in the end, we don’t make it any easier on ourselves after all.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:01:58am

re: #346 Blind Frog Belly White

… - better that 10 deserving families starve than a single drug user get welfare!

It’s the principle of the thing libtards/progressives!!! You don’t get it, do you?!?!?!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:02:06am

re: #350 Timothy Watson

I just knew there was more to the story than the excerpt.
“Buxton was sitting under the family’s kitchen table when he started having a seizure July 2. Travis Evans said he removed his daughter from the kitchen so she wouldn’t see Buxton suffer while Aaren called nearby Stafford Animal Hospital.
The hospital couldn’t take them, according to Aaren Evans, so she made an emergency appointment at Aquia-Garrisonville Animal Hospital.
But when she returned to the kitchen about two minutes later, Aaren said Buxton was walking in the backyard. The family decided not to show up for the appointment.
“He rebounded, and he was fine. And we already knew he has cancer,” she said.
Travis Evans showed up at the Animal Shelter to euthanize Buxton four days later, on July 7. The prosecution focused on that four-day gap between the seizure and the euthanization.
According to court documents, Animal Control Officer Aaron Morelli said Evans allowed Buxton to suffer for four days.
Morelli also wrote in a criminal complaint that Evans disregarded veterinarian recommendations and didn’t show up for an appointment made to have Buxton seen by an urgent care facility.”
Further, they decided to euthanize the dog on Sunday, but waited until Wednesday so they could do it for free.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:15:10am

The fact that they knew the dog was suffering enough to make the family decide to euthanize it, AND NOT CHANGE THEIR MINDS in the four days they waited, tells me the statement that the dog rebounded and was fine a lie.

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ObserverArt  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:15:13am

You know, I think I’ll put up another tune from the home grown project. This one is more rock out noisy and all so it’ll get the blood flowing a bit. Good for the day after Christmas funks.

For the guitar lovers… You Ask A Lot.

Video

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:18:21am

re: #335 BeachDem

Bah, humbug. That’s why, by choice, I spend Christmas alone, at home. (Not near my family, and prefer not to spend the day with someone else’s crazies.) Binge watched Season 1 of House of Cards; made a turkey breast; ate when I wanted to and pretty much ignored the whole thing. Not my holiday anyway, but it’s hard to avoid, except by being a hermit.

I am trying to make today a hermit day. All the running the last 2 days has been enough. I will run a little tomorrow, but today I am not planning on leaving the house. That is subject to change if the boy decides he wants to go over to his girlfriends house. Then I will have to make a drive, but the roads aren’t snow covered so it is all good.

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Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:18:38am

I forgot this doozy- My crazy uncle also mentioned something about “…when Marx and Stalin were in power.” O_o

Uh, Marx was never “in power,” and he died 34 years before Stalin was.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:27:14am

I’m working through all the holidays this year (included Thanksgiving). Let’s the folks that care enough have the day off with family. I consider it a gift to myself mostly.

Them: “We’re going to RWNJ uncle Dittohead’s for Christmas and you must come!”

Me: “Oooo sorry but I have to work. I really, really want to be there though. Say hi to everyone”

minitribal dance

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freetoken  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:27:24am

re: #368 Kid A

I wonder what Marx would have thought about people thinking he was “in power”?

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:28:08am

Season’s Greetings from Crazy Uncle Bill Burgin, camouflaged as a pile of used wrapping paper.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:33:21am

re: #371 jaunte

He’s holding it right in front of your face

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Amory Blaine  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:36:44am

re: #371 jaunte

His witter line is full of racist filth. Even holocaust denial.

374
Kid A  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:39:59am

re: #373 Amory Blaine

His witter line is full of racist filth. Even holocaust denial.

Conservative Christian Patriot Warrior. Love my Guns, my God, my Race, my Country, and my family. In that order. Pride in your own race is not racism.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:41:14am

re: #373 Amory Blaine

Definitely one to report and block.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:41:24am

re: #371 jaunte

Looks like he deleted it.

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jaunte  Dec 26, 2015 • 11:43:30am

re: #376 Eric The Fruit Bat

His twitter timeline is like a Stormfront feed.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:11:53pm

re: #377 jaunte

Indeed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 12:36:30pm

re: #364 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

You’ve obviously never had a dog with cancer while, at the same time, having limited funds when the end has arrived.
Yes, I read the entire article when it was first shared here. And yes, I have had dogs who had cancer and dogs who have had seizures (sometimes both) since I seem to specialize in adopting special needs dogs and cats.
I would have, perhaps, responded to the situation differently, but I am not about to wag fingers and shame this family for what they did.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:18:47pm

re: #379 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’ve obviously never had a dog with cancer while, at the same time, having limited funds when the end has arrived.
Yes, I read the entire article when it was first shared here. And yes, I have had dogs who had cancer and dogs who have had seizures (sometimes both) since I seem to specialize in adopting special needs dogs and cats.
I would have, perhaps, responded to the situation differently, but I am not about to wag fingers and shame this family for what they did.

I not so obviously fricking have had one. You are the one who shared only one side of the story, which is always a giveaway that there is more to it. I think the vet staff involved probably were closer to the situation than we will ever be. Mr. Evans could have said that the family couldn’t afford care, but he didn’t. Instead he tried to insist the dog was fine, even while the family was preparing to euthanize the dog. (If the dog was fine, why did they continue to plan the euthanization for Wednesday?) I’m sure if he said they couldn’t afford the care the dog needed, there would not have been a conviction. I’m sure that if the family couldn’t afford to care for the dog, the veterinary caregivers would have realized that. Somehow I’m more inclined to think Mr. Evans was a cheap grade A asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 3:25:10pm

re: #380 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I not so obviously fricking have had one. You are the one who shared only one side of the story, which is always a giveaway that there is more to it. I think the vet staff involved probably were closer to the situation than we will ever be. Mr. Evans could have said that the family couldn’t afford care, but he didn’t. Instead he tried to insist the dog was fine, even while the family was preparing to euthanize the dog. (If the dog was fine, why did they continue to plan the euthanization for Wednesday?) I’m sure if he said they couldn’t afford the care the dog needed, there would not have been a conviction. I’m sure that if the family couldn’t afford to care for the dog, the veterinary caregivers would have realized that. Somehow I’m more inclined to think Mr. Evans was a cheap grade A asshole.

EXCUSE ME Mr. Perfect…I did NOT share that story.
Get your holier than thou shit together.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 26, 2015 • 4:08:17pm

And my apologies for not being willing to condemn people I do not know based on a knee-jerk reaction to a random news article.


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