The headline says it all. Apparently, CNN doesn’t think it’s worth mentioning that Donald Trump’s official national spokesperson is wearing a necklace made out of bullets.
This presidential campaign is now all the way into Idiocracy territory.
Reposting from the last thread—exposes what a fake Pierson is!
I think the bullet necklace is there as a distraction. I think CNN is doing the right thing to ignore it
re: #6 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I think the bullet necklace is there as a distraction. I think CNN is doing the right thing to ignore it
You have got to be kidding.
Apparently, CNN doesn’t think it’s worth mentioning that Donald Trump’s spokesperson is wearing a necklace made out of bullets.
Maybe they didn’t want to ask and get her started on some rant. You know anyone who wears something that weird wants to be asked about it.
So, for what it’s worth, my better half and I just spent a week in Columbia, SC visiting relatives.
I was astonished not just that I saw no Trump stickers, but that I saw no promotional media of any kind, for anybody. In South Carolina, for Cthulhu’s sake.
I’m not proclaiming any sort of grand knowledge, but that very much surprised me.
Press being kept in press pin by Secret Service until Trump leaves, as attendees are free to roam. pic.twitter.com/6pH6JPiV43
— Sarah McCammon NPR (@sarahmccammon) December 30, 2015
We can only interview people over fence right now. Secret Service staff told me he was told to keep us in for now. pic.twitter.com/QHVvgAxDsm
— Sarah McCammon NPR (@sarahmccammon) December 30, 2015
If you are interested in the background on Pierson’s Tea Party 2014 congressional campaign (plus her past love for Ted Cruz) and don’t mind spending a few moments with the admittedly douchey Dave Weigel, please enjoy.
re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s an over-the-top interpretation of candidate security.
re: #6 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I think the bullet necklace is there as a distraction. I think CNN is doing the right thing to ignore it
Or they could have told her that if she didn’t take it off she wasn’t going on. It’s pure bullshit. CNN doesn’t owe her a spot on the show.
re: #16 Timothy Watson
Isn’t that kidnapping/forcible imprisonment?
The media refuse to complain, unlike when Hillary Clinton’s campaign once had the temerity to ask them to stay behind a rope. Campaigns will do what they can get away with.
re: #15 jaunte
That’s an over-the-top interpretation of candidate security.
If the media had any dignity or self-respect, they’d just stop covering this piece of gold-plated shit.
But they don’t so they let themselves be herded like cattle. SMMFH
re: #20 makeitstop
Brown-nosing the brownshirts.
re: #16 Timothy Watson
Isn’t that kidnapping/forcible imprisonment?
Grounds rules that the reporters agreed to.
Brought it on themselves.
I’m listening to the album Graceland by Paul Simon right now.
Ye Gods, it’s fucking weird out there, folks.
re: #11 Testy Toad T
So, for what it’s worth, my better half and I just spent a week in Columbia, SC visiting relatives.
I was astonished not just that I saw no Trump stickers, but that I saw no promotional media of any kind, for anybody. In South Carolina, for Cthulhu’s sake.
I’m not proclaiming any sort of grand knowledge, but that very much surprised me.
What signs did you see?
re: #19 Brian J.
The media refuse to complain, unlike when Hillary Clinton’s campaign once had the temerity to ask them to stay behind a rope. Campaigns will do what they can get away with.
Good. Let the silly crap be seen by all those voters who don’t go to carnival rallies.
Thing is, at these Trump rallies there have been no real protests.
Trump is playing it safe and only going to places where he can control what goes on.
Ever notice how he doesn’t come here to California to do his gimmick?
re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth
And yet the “free press” is willing to tolerate this all in the name of ratings and ad $’s!!
Me thinks the “free press” is totally unaware of what will happen to the “free press” if Trump ever becomes POTUS.
re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth
Grounds rules that the reporters agreed to.
Brought it on themselves.
Someone could have the decency to fork a little alfalfa over the corral, and make sure they’re watered.
re: #6 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I think the bullet necklace is there as a distraction. I think CNN is doing the right thing to ignore it
It is a completely weird item to pick to wear on CNN or in front of any camera with more of an audience than a selfie. But hey, Texas. ‘Nuff said?
Sorry, but appearing on CNN with a necklace of freaking BULLETS is not a “distraction.” It’s a political statement.
re: #28 Cheechako
That’s why the media don’t really complain about campaign budgets and super pacs.
Guess where that money goes?
Into the pockets of distributors, i.e., “the media”.
Political campaigns bring cash to local news outlets who otherwise have to get by on car dealer advertisements and charging large sums for obituaries.
The weirdest ground rule is that if a reporter has to go to the restroom, they need to wait for an escort.
For what it’s worth—Trump is supposed to have a rally at U Mass Lowell on January 4 at 5 pm. The reason I know this, even though I live in Arizona is because a friend of mine and other people he knows from very liberal Cambridge, Somerville, etc., plan to carpool over to protest at the rally. According to my friend, this is the furthest into Massachusetts Trump has come. Anyway, just putting that out there because we know how much Trump supporters love to rough up protesters.
re: #31 Charles Johnson
Sorry, but appearing on CNN with a necklace of freaking BULLETS is not a “distraction.” It’s a political statement.
She might as well come on air with a semiauto slung over her shoulder.
re: #31 Charles Johnson
Sorry, but appearing on CNN with a necklace of freaking BULLETS is not a “distraction.” It’s a political statement.
She wants to let everyone know that she thinks the right people are being shot, and will continue to be.
re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth
The weirdest ground rule is that if a reporter has to go to the restroom, they need to wait for an escort.
EWWW THAT’S DISGUSTING!!! THAT’S SO DISGUSTING!!!11!!
re: #34 dholmes32
I wonder if this will be where there will be the first real large anti-Trump demonstration?
Bullet necklace is literally the least crazy thing about Katrina Pierson.
THANKS OBAMA!
Islamic State suffers double blow as Ramadi falls, leaders killed https://t.co/ukDf5eDz30
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) December 30, 2015
re: #7 Charles Johnson
You have got to be kidding.
There’s a pretty good argument for ignoring it, actually. Given the realities of social media and the behavior of Donald Trump, if the interviewer had brought up the matter of her necklace then he or she would have been made the issue. The social media feeds of both the interviewer and CNN would have turned to rivers of denunciations of TRAITOROUS ANTI-GUN MEDIA LIBERALS!!!11 and Trump would himself on Twitter and on his next campaign stop belittle the interview and act like he was knocking the interviewer aside the way a ‘Real Man’ knocks aside a foolish wimp who dares to annoy him.
Calling Pierson on her jewelry would have brought the interviewer and CNN a great deal of grief and very little gain. It would be more likely to help Trump than to hurt him.
re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth
Grounds rules that the reporters agreed to.
Brought it on themselves.
Wonder what would happen if a reporter put a sign on the fence saying “Tell us what you think! We want to know!” Bet Trump’s people would have that shut down in a minute.
re: #40 The Vicious Babushka
THANKS OBAMA!
BBC said the next move is to dislodge them from Mosul, their only remaining important base of operations. No Mosul, no money.
re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth
The Donald™ is against the First Amendment.
.@realDonaldTrump’s campaign is clearly against freedom of the press. https://t.co/sp8MH0iuJ0
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) December 15, 2015
Even after Trump finished talking, security in reporter pen was blocking media from leaving. Clearly didn’t want us talking to people
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) December 15, 2015
re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth
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How can a guy who used to do the MDA Telephon support someone that openly mocks the appearance of people with disabilities? As someone with muscular dystrophy, fuck Jerry Lewis.
re: #42 stpaulbear
Wonder what would happen if a reporter put a sign on the fence saying “Tell us what you think! We want to know!” Bet Trump’s people would have that shut down in a minute.
With a Twitter handle.
re: #38 freetoken
I wonder if this will be where there will be the first real large anti-Trump demonstration?
We can only hope, but I worry about my friend, who is short and 60 years old, getting beat up by a thug twice his weight and 20 years younger.
re: #45 No Depression
How can a guy who used to do a telethon for the MDA support someone that openly mocks the appearance of people with disabilities? As someone with muscular dystrophy, fuck Jerry Lewis.
To be honest, I didn’t even know Jerry was still alive.
Look, the “media” were all too happy to jump on Trumps’ plane to get exclusive interviews.
When your live or die by ratings, there are no ethics.
re: #40 The Vicious Babushka
THANKS OBAMA!
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Coupled with the loss of Baij in October and Sinjar in November, Daesh has had a very bad end of the year.
I marvel at just how damn good Trump is at all this.
The way Trump riles up his crazy, teabagger, gun nut crowd against the press they may not be allowed to leave for their own protection.
Wingnut Hot Topic.
Like, adults who are still teenagers and think they’re being EDGY, and you can’t handle their EDGE and its real-ness.
Except with a fixation on lethal weapons.
…that is all.
re: #41 Dark_Falcon
LOLOLOLOL!
As if none of that is already happening.
As long as politicians like #DonaldTrump and #Cameron are active on Twitter, the rest of us don’t have a chance, Daniel @DanielWickham93
— Colin Tom (@ReporterPhoenix) December 30, 2015
OH: “You know you’re in Texas when you buy ammo from a pastor at a coffee shop”
— Katie Zezima (@katiezez) December 29, 2015
— The Cult Cat (@Elverojaguar) December 30, 2015
re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth
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No. You know you’re really in Texas when you buy ammo in a church from a pastor!
Yeah, let’s just ignore that necklace of large-caliber bullets Trump’s official spokesperson is wearing, because it might lead to questioning the insanity of America’s gun cult.
And we wouldn’t want THAT.
re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth
re: #57 Charles Johnson
Well, if you two know so much more than I, then tell me: Why should CNN endure all grief it would have gotten if attention had been called to Ms. Pierson’s necklace of cartridges? What good would it have done and what would CNN have gained by doing so?
re: #7 Charles Johnson
You have got to be kidding.
She baited a hook, they chose not to take the bait. Amateur play to try and direct the air time.
Another clown exits the car:
Ex-N.Y. Gov. George Pataki announces exit from race for GOP nomination for president. https://t.co/n8PNKJGEoX. pic.twitter.com/w93rKXcDQd
— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) December 30, 2015
Not surprised. He didn’t file for the primary here in Texas. A serious candidate wouldn’t have missed the deadline.
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
Well, if you two know so much more than I, then tell me: Why should CNN endure all grief it would have gotten if attention had been called to Ms. Pierson’s necklace of cartridges? What good would it have done and what would CNN have gained by doing so?
They would have been doing some actual reporting.
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
Well, if you two know so much more than I, then tell me: Why should CNN endure all grief it would have gotten if attention had been called to Ms. Pierson’s necklace of cartridges? What good would it have done and what would CNN have gained by doing so?
In saying this, you have bought into the “horse race” bullshit hook line and sinker.
How about a necklace of aborted babbie parts!
@GeorgeTakei Heard you dropped out of the presidential race today … oh ha ha, wait, that was George Pataki. Never mind.
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) December 30, 2015
I would totally vote for @GeorgeTakei for President. I’m just saying. Totally.
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) December 30, 2015
re: #52 freetoken
I marvel at just how damn good Trump is at all this.
Why do you marvel at it? What’s so remarkable about the absolute lack of shame at play here? He’s selling retardation to retards, it’s not so much a matter of skill as it is a willingness to cross all boundaries of decency and remove all normal intellectual restraints.
.@KatrinaPierson We noticed your bullet necklace on our air. Is there a message behind it? #TheLead pic.twitter.com/NZuQyvNV4f
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) December 29, 2015
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Why do you marvel at it? What’s so remarkable about the absolute lack of shame at play here?
Because the people I personally know have, even in the tiniest proportions, some sense of shame in the bundle of traits that make up their personality.
re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
BBC said the next move is to dislodge them from Mosul, their only remaining important base of operations. No Mosul, no money.
A larger point - if they lose Mosul, their ‘caliphate’ ceases to exist and they can no longer recruit according to Islamic Law.
Al‑Qaeda is ineradicable because it can survive, cockroach-like, by going underground. The Islamic State cannot. If it loses its grip on its territory in Syria and Iraq, it will cease to be a caliphate. Caliphates cannot exist as underground movements, because territorial authority is a requirement: take away its command of territory, and all those oaths of allegiance are no longer binding. Former pledges could of course continue to attack the West and behead their enemies, as freelancers. But the propaganda value of the caliphate would disappear, and with it the supposed religious duty to immigrate and serve it.
Well I guess you could say she was…dressed to kill.
YEAHHHHHHHHHH!
re: #72 KingKenrod
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The message she’s sending?
Her Hitachi Magic Wand broke down! 😉
Trump is really good. No need to pretend he isn’t. He’s superb at manipulating the news/TV industry.
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Why do you marvel at it? What’s so remarkable about the absolute lack of shame at play here? He’s selling retardation to retards, it’s not so much a matter of skill as it is a willingness to cross all boundaries of decency and remove all normal intellectual restraints.
Yep. This is a guy who has absolutely no compunctions about playing to the very lowest common denominator of the right wing base, as he’s demonstrated over and over. And he’s enlisted people like Katrina Pierson, who will proudly wear necklaces made of bullets on CNN, to be his spokespersons.
If Trump was as shrewd a businessman as he claims he’d have those for sale on his campaign website right now.
I wonder if she got that necklace as a holiday gift?
re: #73 freetoken
Because the people I personally know have, even in the tiniest proportions, some sense of shame in the bundle of traits that make up their personality.
Lack of shame comes with inherited millions plus need to pretend he’s a self-made man.
re: #72 KingKenrod
Maybe he should have asked her during the actual interview.
re: #72 KingKenrod
We noticed your bullet necklace on our air. Is there a message behind it?
That some women really do suffer from penis envy.
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re: #72 KingKenrod
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Such classy responses. The TrumpTroopers are a very special bunch.
re: #80 stpaulbear
I wonder if she got that necklace as a holiday gift?
QUIT USING THE WORD HOLIDAY! IT’S CHRISTMAS! CHRISTMAS! CHRISTMAS!
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re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Why do you marvel at it? What’s so remarkable about the absolute lack of shame at play here? He’s selling retardation to retards, it’s not so much a matter of skill as it is a willingness to cross all boundaries of decency and remove all normal intellectual restraints.
well dog help him if he gets elected cuz all those Big Promises he’s making will come due
No. Don’t tell me to ignore it when a spokesperson for the leading presidential candidate does a CNN interview wearing a necklace made of high-caliber bullets. That’s nuts.
Ignoring this kind of extremist insanity is what brought us to this sad point in American history.
re: #74 makeitstop
A larger point - if they lose Mosul, their ‘caliphate’ ceases to exist and they can no longer recruit according to Islamic Law.
I thought Dabiq is their “must-hold” territory.
re: #86 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
well dog help him if he gets elected cuz all those Big Promises he’s making will come due
Trump will just declare intellectual bankruptcy.
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re: #87 Charles Johnson
I’ve watched a few Trump rally speeches. They degenerate little by little, over and over, over time. Tonight’s Trump speech was the worst I’ve heard. And it will get worse.
re: #87 Charles Johnson
No. Don’t tell me to ignore it when a spokesperson for the leading presidential candidate does a CNN interview wearing a necklace made of high-caliber bullets. That’s nuts.
Ignoring this kind of extremist insanity is what brought us to this sad point in American history.
What caliber are they? They kind of look like M1 Carbine rounds to me.
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
What caliber are they? They kind of look like M1 Carbine rounds to me.
Who fucking cares.
Trump gives the same goddamn speech everywhere he goes. But little by little over time he ratchets up the rhetoric and goes into outright fascist territory. And the leading candidates for the Republican nomination (Cruz, Rubio) will have to follow suit with equally insane rhetoric.
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
I care a little, mostly just out of curiosity.
Don’t know the caliber, but given who was wearing them I’ll bet they were dum dums.
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re: #74 makeitstop
It seems like Iraq is letting the Kurds handle it. The Kurds are chipping away at the defenses, and are beginning to try to encircle it, if the salient around Tel Keppe is anything to go by.
Tel Keppe was ethnicly cleansed of Assyrians, and is now home only to Arabs under DAESH.
I think a reverse cleansing may happen.
re: #95 Dark_Falcon
I care a little, mostly just out of curiosity.
Well, here you go.
Made in #Texas! Real ammo. #2A Support your local small business owners! #Trump2016 https://t.co/6T4zYWDqeR
— Katrina Pierson (@KatrinaPierson) December 29, 2015
They should have been aimed the other way IMO.
“Woman accidentally shot by hand-crafted necklace.”
re: #31 Charles Johnson
Sorry, but appearing on CNN with a necklace of freaking BULLETS is not a “distraction.” It’s a political statement.
Maybe she just wanted to show off part of her Mad Max style post apocalypse fashion collection. Point out to viewers that she and Trump aren’t too afraid to use that nuclear triad thingie (whatever it is).
Donald Trump’s speeches sound like they’re written by someone who using satire to express hatred of Donald Trump. pic.twitter.com/qb1mZt1TOs
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) December 30, 2015
re: #52 freetoken
I marvel at just how damn good Trump is at all this.
Here’s an interesting take on why:
I really can’t help but wonder if theory of Trump being a living “Producers” just might be true.
re: #74 makeitstop
I learned something! Thanks!
re: #97 The War TARDIS
It seems like Iraq is letting the Kurds handle it. The Kurds are chipping away at the defenses, and are beginning to try to encircle it, if the salient around Tel Keppe is anything to go by.
Tel Keppe was ethnicly cleansed of Assyrians, and is now home only to Arabs under DAESH.
I think a reverse cleansing may happen.
That’s not a thing to want, though it may indeed happen.
re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth
Grounds rules that the reporters agreed to.
Brought it on themselves.
Hey, a few weeks ago the stenographers were even proud of the fact that they “negotiated” the right to talk to 5 people while accompanied by Trump security goons. (Calling them “reporters” is a s-t-r-e-t-c-h.)
Mean people suck
What next?! Defaced with bacon: Local Mosque reports hate crime to police https://t.co/PEmnwoCUBZ #Islamophobia pic.twitter.com/zXYkCwZdWT
— Debbie Almontaser (@DebbiAlmontaser) December 30, 2015
re: #99 jaunte
“Woman accidentally shot by hand-crafted necklace.”
Well, if she keeps up with the overheated rhetoric she is risking a ‘cook-off’ if those rounds actually have powder in them.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
I think the bullet necklace is there as a distraction. I think CNN is doing the right thing to ignore it.
Those aren’t bullets! They’re butt plugs!
re: #109 The Vicious Babushka
Mean people suck
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Not only should these people be charged with a hate crime, but the almost as serious crime of wasting bacon.
re: #94 teleskiguy
And the leading candidates for the Republican nomination (Cruz, Rubio) will have to follow suit with equally insane rhetoric.
I think we are only about 6 weeks away from not having to call Rubio a “leading candidate” for anything except a lobbying job. He HAS TO finish top 2 in New Hampshire, and with Christie, Bush and even Kasich literally throwing their entire campaigns into that state there is not likely to be enough oxygen in the establishment lane. Good riddance.
What do you expect from a lady that was caught shoplifting at 20 and receiving over $11k in unemployment benefits while helping Ted Cruz’ campaign?
re: #109 The Vicious Babushka
Mean people suck
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The suspect:
A man defaced a mosque in Las Vegas with bacon! https://t.co/qfh6qjVXJT pic.twitter.com/zLxBwomABW
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) December 29, 2015
NO TRUE CONSERVATIVE!
Santorum: Ted Cruz Is ‘Not the Social Conserative’ He Claims to Be https://t.co/EoXYxybRhF (VIDEO) pic.twitter.com/Hmt6VeCaWM
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) December 29, 2015
re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth
Why do the press continue to put up with this bullshit???
re: #109 The Vicious Babushka
Mean people suck
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This is nothing new for American bigots. Grandma told me that the KKK did this same thing to Jewish Temples in the 20s and 30s.
re: #117 Jenner7
Why do the press continue to put up with this bullshit???
Because if they don’t, they lose access to the Trump campaign, and this circus is bringing in a lot of advertising money for the media.
re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So this was done by a fat guy with sideburns and glasses? “Put out an all points bulletin for an ‘E. Presley’.”
/Elvis has left the building.
re: #117 Jenner7
Why do the press continue to put up with this bullshit???
They seem to have forgotten their traditional role as the Fourth Estate — the “fourth branch” of American government. I can’t imagine people like Edward R. Murrow agreeing to being kept in a “reporters’ pen” during a candidate’s rally. And any candidate trying to enforce such a rule would have been roundly scorned in the press as a coward.
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
Well, if you two know so much more than I, then tell me: Why should CNN endure all grief it would have gotten if attention had been called to Ms. Pierson’s necklace of cartridges? What good would it have done and what would CNN have gained by doing so?
What if she’d had a necklace of fetuses? Would that have been acceptable? Or dildos? How about dildos?
Someone earlier had the best suggestion. Tell her to take the fucking thing off or no interview.
re: #91 Dark_Falcon
What caliber are they? They kind of look like M1 Carbine rounds to me.
It’s a mix of assorted bullshit. All of them look to be necked down, which the .30 carbine is not.
re: #6 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I think the bullet necklace is there as a distraction. I think CNN is doing the right thing to ignore it
It’s not like she’s wearing a necklace of embryos or anything.
re: #120 teleskiguy
The GOP at the convention in Cleveland.
I would not be surprised to see an open GOP convention where nobody has a majority of delegates. I would not be surprised to see the Party bosses open up the old smoke filled room and draft either Romney, Thune, Ryan or even a dark horse like Baker…
re: #117 Jenner7
Why do the press continue to put up with this bullshit???
Clickbait. But it is disturbing to see them grovel. And beg.
re: #122 Dark_Falcon
The surveillance video also shows him shoving a piece of raw bacon in his mouth.
re: #123 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
They seem to have forgotten their traditional role as the Fourth Estate — the “fourth branch” of American government. I can’t imagine people like Edward R. Murrow agreeing to being kept in a “reporters’ pen” during a candidate’s rally. And any candidate trying to enforce such a rule would have been roundly scorned in the press as a coward.
That ended when Bush 2 colluded with Fox, the media propaganda arm of the Republican party, to exclude all of the networks that went after him.
re: #124 BeachDem
What if she’d had a necklace of fetuses? Would that have been acceptable? Or dildos? How about dildos?
CNN would have mistaken a dildo necklace for ISIS propaganda.
Surely @KatrinaPierson wore bullet necklace on #CNN to bring attention to 90 Americans fatally shot daily #gunsense pic.twitter.com/o45m0V1hXe
— Shannon (@shannonrwatts) December 30, 2015
Completely off topic, but this just in………Philadelphia Eagles Fire Head Coach Chip Kelly.
re: #113 bratwurst
I think we are only about 6 weeks away from not having to call Rubio a “leading candidate” for anything except a lobbying job. He HAS TO finish top 2 in New Hampshire, and with Christie, Bush and even Kasich literally throwing their entire campaigns into that state there is not likely to be enough oxygen in the establishment lane. Good riddance.
Why do you think he needs a top 2 finish?
re: #121 Charles Johnson
Because if they don’t, they lose access to the Trump campaign, and this circus is bringing in a lot of advertising money for the media.
Yup. When the primary news sources were the TV networks and the newspapers, candidates couldn’t afford to cut access to the media without backlash. These days, with the explosion of “news” channels and web sites, candidates can refuse access with few if any consequences. Since the “reporters” need access to the candidates, they are willing to tolerate BS that was unthinkable a few years ago.
re: #113 bratwurst
I think we are only about 6 weeks away from not having to call Rubio a “leading candidate” for anything except a lobbying job.
Rubio is running an extended job interview: lobbyist or primetime Fox host.
re: #134 nines09
Wow, really expected him to be able to get at least one more year given the fact that they allowed him to remake the entire roster to his satisfaction. The next coach is going to have inherit a steaming mess.
re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth
The surveillance video also shows him shoving a piece of raw bacon in his mouth.
And he was dressed all in black just like ISIL.
Gawd these morons are… well, morons.
another version of Find the Panda:
Find the panda pic.twitter.com/Cj8bWzAO8v
— Think Atheist (@ThinkAtheist) December 30, 2015
re: #129 De Kolta Chair
You know who also wore bullets?
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Technically, she’s wearing bullet-objects that have no practical function (minus primer and powder—I hope—it ain’t a bullet anymore), but function as “bullets” within a political symbology where sartorial rituals are thought to convey strength and merit.
Especially aggro Bower bird performances, if you will.
Now I’m going to pour a shot for me, a shot for Pierre Bordieu, and another for David Attenborough. We all have headaches thinking about the ramifications of this shit.
re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg
I really can’t help but wonder if theory of Trump being a living “Producers” just might be true.
“Springtime
for Donald,
Republicannnns,
Winter
for Rubio
and Buuuuush…….”
re: #121 Charles Johnson
Because if they don’t, they lose access to the Trump campaign, and this circus is bringing in a lot of advertising money for the media.
“Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!”
Churchill: “Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”
re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea
Technically, she’s wearing bullet-objects that have no practical function (minus primer and powder—I hope—it ain’t a bullet anymore), but function as “bullets” within a political symbology where sartorial rituals are thought to convey strength and merit.
Especially aggro Bower bird performances, if you will.
Now I’m going to pour a shot for me, a shot for Pierre Bordieu, and another for David Attenborough. We all have headaches thinking about the ramifications of this shit.
But it’s the male bower birds that do that! She’s usurping the man’s role! She’s a witch!
Some sad news in Texas tonight:
Grandmother Who Gave Hugs to Thousands of Soldiers Dies at 83 https://t.co/lwxZsnmpPR pic.twitter.com/ZSzNbbZH6O
The Hug Lady was a fixture at Fort Hood. Lots of people will mourn her for sure.
re: #7 Charles Johnson
You have got to be kidding.
Didn’t mean to take so long to respond. I think this spokeswoman would like nothing more than to act bemused while the MSM gets distracted by the necklace. She knows that the less she actually has to talk about Trump, the easier her job is. It would fall right into the right wing narrative if the libz in the media get hot and bothered by a necklace made of bullets. Check the chyron (I think that’s what you call that text under her picture). Trump in 2008: Hillary would make a great president. Her boss is full of crap. I think that’s what is relevant.
re: #138 Whack-A-Mole
Wow, really expected him to be able to get at least one more year given the fact that they allowed him to remake the entire roster to his satisfaction. The next coach is going to have inherit a steaming mess.
The players he let go did not really do him in. His hurry up offense worked, but wore down his own defense. It seemed to me that he thought he could plug players in wherever he needed them and talent would take over. That they were this bad in the dumpster fire that was the NFL East…….They have talent. I’ll give them that, but the schemes were from another world. And didn’t work for long. Another fun off season.
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
Why do you think he needs a top 2 finish?
Because he won’t finish any higher than third in Iowa…and a distant third, if he even gets that. Another third place finishing going into South Carolina (where he also can’t finish any higher than third) is going to turn off the money spigot. Yes, this campaign is different than any in memory. Even so, can you think of a situation where a candidate who couldn’t get as high as second in any of the first 3 contests went on to greatness?
The establishment money will get behind whomever finishes second to Trump in New Hampshire. That is why Rubio will be done if he doesn’t get it.
Seriously, we’re talking about Katrina Pierson, who literally, verbatim said “So what? They’re Muslim,” as a defense of Trump’s call for official discrimination.
The scandal is that the networks continue to interview her bigoted ass at all.
I wonder who Pataki’s supporters will follow now, and whose car will they take?
— J. Elvis Weinstein (@JElvisWeinstein) December 30, 2015
re: #149 goddamnedfrank
Seriously, we’re talking about Katrina Pierson, who literally, verbatim said “So what? They’re Muslim,” as a defense of Trump’s call for official discrimination.
The scandal is that the networks continue to interview her bigoted ass at all.
Just imagine if any network had the cajones to say, “Who? Katrina Pierson? On what show? No. Not today. Not tomorrow. “CLICK”.”
re: #149 goddamnedfrank
I’ve given up on the US ever getting better.
re: #148 bratwurst
Because he won’t finish any higher than third in Iowa…and a distant third, if he even gets that. Another third place finishing going into South Carolina (where he also can’t finish any higher than third) is going to turn off the money spigot. Yes, this campaign is different than any in memory. Even so, can you think of a situation where a candidate who couldn’t get as high as second in any of the first 3 contests went on to greatness?
The establishment money will get behind whomever finishes second to Trump in New Hampshire. That is why Rubio will be done if he doesn’t get it.
I think Rubio might have better chance than you think in South Carolina. I could easily seen Trump not doing well there, given he’s not that evangelical friendly.
re: #148 bratwurst
The establishment money will get behind whomever finishes second to Trump in New Hampshire.
Unless it’s Cruz. If Cruz comes in second in NH the establishment GOP will trade in their Brooks Brothers suits for sackcloths and ashes.
re: #146 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Didn’t mean to take so long to respond. I think this spokeswoman would like nothing more than to act bemused while the MSM gets distracted by the necklace. She knows that the less she actually has to talk about Trump, the easier her job is. It would fall right into the right wing narrative if the libz in the media get hot and bothered by a necklace made of bullets. Check the chyron (I think that’s what you call that text under her picture). Trump in 2008: Hillary would make a great president. Her boss is full of crap. I think that’s what is relevant.
She was making a very clear political statement by wearing that necklace. It’s not a “distraction” to call her out on it. That’s just ridiculous.
re: #18 stpaulbear
Or they could have told her that if she didn’t take it off she wasn’t going on. It’s pure bullshit. CNN doesn’t owe her a spot on the show.
CNN does what they do for their own ends, not Trump’s or anybody else’s. I sort of agree with you there. But why not let the world see what kind of people are clinging to Donald Trump. Personally, I see that necklace and think to myself “What an idiot”. I think most people will do the same. Making her remove the necklace would be doing her a favor.
Nothing Trump or his campaign say or do has caught up with them. The media doesn’t want to actually do their jobs, so it really doesn’t matter whether they asked about the disgusting thing on her neck.
re: #149 goddamnedfrank
The scandal is that the networks continue to interview her bigoted ass at all.
Once more with feeling!
re: #158 Jenner7
Nothing Trump or his campaign say or do has caught up with them. The media doesn’t want to actually do their jobs, so it really doesn’t matter whether they asked about the disgusting thing on her neck.
Was going to comment, then realized you meant the necklace.
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re: #153 The War TARDIS
I’ve given up on the US ever getting better.
Cool story bro.
It’s literally gotten a ton better right in front of your nose in just the last few years. Gay marriage is legal, the ACA allows the previously uninsurable self employed to get coverage, we’re landing rockets elegantly right on their ass. Trump’s know nothing racist bullshit is little more than a reactionary speed bump.
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
I think Rubio might have better chance than you think in South Carolina. I could easily seen Trump not doing well there, given he’s not that evangelical friendly.
Trump’s at 34%; Rubio at 13% in South by dog Carolina. And, may I remind you, NEWT won the primary here in 2012.
Nope, sorry. It’s absolutely wrong-headed and ass-backwards to say this kind of stuff should just be ignored. Ignoring this extremism brought us Donald Trump. If you ignore it, you guarantee it will just continue to get worse.
“You want to book who? On my show? Really? Don’t go anywhere, I’ll call you back.” click……Yeah. That’ll happen….re: #162 goddamnedfrank
Cool story bro.
It’s literally gotten a ton better right in front of your nose in just the last few years. Gay marriage is legal, the ACA allows the previously uninsurable self employed to get coverage, we’re landing rockets elegantly right on their ass. Trump’s know nothing racist bullshit is little more than a reactionary speed bump.
All true, but you have to admit that a significant plurality will no more change their spots than a leopard.
Katrina Pierson wanted to be with us tonight but unfortunately she had dumb coming out of her where ever.
re: #167 nines09
I look at that and I think “Oh, nice curtains you have there. Be a shame if anything happened to them. Got any tuna?”
re: #147 nines09
He chose an established mediocre assistant coach to run the defense. In spite of the fact that their starting linebackers could barely walk, they still couldn’t field anything better to sub for them. When they got embarrassed this season, it was mostly their defense that rolled over and quit. The offensive line left an awful lot to be desired too. The running backs had to break tackles just to get to the line of scrimmage. If I had to guess what happened, the team owner told Chip he had to give up some power and Chip refused.
I would have liked to see Chip stay because the offense can be impressive. I like to see somebody who has a vision for the team that doesn’t involve doing everything that the teams do.
re: #80 stpaulbear
I wonder if she got that necklace as a holiday gift?
Nothing says Peace on Earth, Goodwill Towards Men like a bullet necklace!
re: #156 Charles Johnson
Where do you think the discussion would go?
CNN: I see you’re wearing a necklace made of bullets.
Her: I hope you like it.
CNN: (feel free to insert dialog.)
re: #154 Dark_Falcon
I think Rubio might have better chance than you think in South Carolina. I could easily seen Trump not doing well there, given he’s not that evangelical friendly.
Trump has triple Rubio’s number in South Carolina. Cruz has double. Finishing a distant third in Iowa is not exactly going to help matters.
re: #155 goddamnedfrank
Unless it’s Cruz. If Cruz comes in second in NH the establishment GOP will trade in their Brooks Brothers suits for sackcloths and ashes.
On the other hand…the same YouGov data from 12 days ago does indeed show Cruz in second in New Hampshire. So MAYBE third place will be good enough for the establishment candidate to survive…but again Rubio has Christie, Bush and Kasich literally betting their entire campaigns on getting a result there. It is going to be a bloodbath.
Pretend I’m the one wearing a string of bullets. What would you say?
I ask this because I think it’s worthwhile to “game” this out. Shoot, if they gamed Operation Iraqi Freedom, things would have gone very differently.
re: #172 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
More wrong than right, and no real plan for the players he got. Like I said, they have talent. I think Bradford in the right scheme can be very good. He could have walked next year. The story will come out, but right now it no longer in the hands of Chip. Here we go again.
re: #149 goddamnedfrank
Seriously, we’re talking about Katrina Pierson, who literally, verbatim said “So what? They’re Muslim,” as a defense of Trump’s call for official discrimination.
The scandal is that the networks continue to interview her bigoted ass at all.
A couple of months ago I had several doctor’s appointments (turned out to be a false alarm), and that shrill shill was ranting away on the waiting room tubes three visits in a row. Those were the only times I’ve heard her, and it was three times too many.
re: #170 goddamnedfrank
Katrina Pierson wanted to be with us tonight but unfortunately she had dumb coming out of her where ever.
I told one of my freshman students online today that I was checking on the presidential campaign news. She asked me if it was peaceful or not peaceful. I had to stop and think about that one before I answered.
re: #176 bratwurst
Trump has triple Rubio’s number in South Carolina. Cruz has double. Finishing a distant third in Iowa is not exactly going to help matters.
On the other hand…the same YouGov data from 12 days ago does indeed show Cruz in second in New Hampshire. So MAYBE third place will be good enough for the establishment candidate to survive…but again Rubio has Christie, Bush and Kasich literally betting their entire campaigns on getting a result there. It is going to be a bloodbath.
Yup. That’s about the size of it. But every media outfit that can broadcast into NH is going to get feeelthy reeech.
re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m getting a lot faster at solving those. They’re cute.
re: #162 goddamnedfrank
I’m not so sure that there won’t be a reactionary reversal.
re: #177 freetoken
The Panda is a Lie!
Son #2 believes that pandas are evolutionary wastes and should go extinct. Then he starts saying mean things about them.
If CNN hired me as a talking head, interviewing Pierson:
Me: Welcome Ms. Peirson.
KP: Hi there.
M: Before we start, let me say how striking your jewelry is tonight.
KP: *smiles*
M: Are those cast in silver?
KP: Why yes (or a puzzled look).
M: Is this part of the Lone Ranger fantasy cos-play of which you are a coordinator?
re: #113 bratwurst
I think we are only about 6 weeks away from not having to call Rubio a “leading candidate” for anything except a lobbying job. He HAS TO finish top 2 in New Hampshire, and with Christie, Bush and even Kasich literally throwing their entire campaigns into that state there is not likely to be enough oxygen in the establishment lane. Good riddance.
Presumably at least one establishment candidate will come limping out of NH, even if Trump and Cruz finish 1 and 2. If one of them (Rubio, Chrisite, Kasich or Bush) doesn’t win in SC, however, its hard to see how this doesn’t end up being a battle between Trump and Cruz for the nomination. That being said, its certainly possible one of them will suddenly surge and win in NH outright; its happened before.
re: #170 goddamnedfrank
Katrina Pierson wanted to be with us tonight but unfortunately she
had dumb coming out of her where everdropped a lit cigarette.
Saw my first Rubio commercial here in South by dog Carolina tonight. It was totally lame. All it talked about was Obama, and I never did actually get the point of what Marco was trying to say. Shot against a solid black background, with “earnest” Marco bloviating for 30 seconds. Fail.
I think it was Gore Vidal who parodied Sinclair Lewis’ famous quote, “When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross,” by quipping something along the lines of “When fascism comes to the US it will be with a smiling face.” Pierson is fascism with a smarmy grimace.
re: #116 Lidane
NO TRUE CONSERVATIVE!
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Frothy mix is getting so desperate. He and Huck will be gone shortly after Iowa.
re: #187 freetoken
KP: Why of course not. It’s just a necklace. Is it bothering you?
Freetoken, this is the part where you unleash that zinger that is going to completely discredit the Trump campaign and the gun lobby.
re: #191 De Kolta Chair
I think it was Gore Vidal who parodied Sinclair Lewis’ famous quote, “When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross,” by quipping something along the lines of “When fascism comes to the US it will be with a smiling face.” Pierson is fascism with a smarmy grimace.
The soundtrack:
re: #124 BeachDem
What if she’d had a necklace of fetuses? Would that have been acceptable? Or dildos? How about dildos?
Someone earlier had the best suggestion. Tell her to take the fucking thing off or no interview.
Instead, they were probably thrilled by the visual imagery. Ratings gold!
re: #194 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Freetoken, this is the part where you unleash that zinger that is going to completely discredit the Trump campaign and the gun lobby.
Forgive me for saying this, but I don’t think roleplaying is your thing.
re: #127 Joe Bacon
I would not be surprised to see an open GOP convention where nobody has a majority of delegates. I would not be surprised to see the Party bosses open up the old smoke filled room and draft either Romney, Thune, Ryan or even a dark horse like Baker…
Oh man, the wingnutosphere would explode in rage. Not enough popcorn.
re: #197 bratwurst
Forgive me for saying this, but I don’t think roleplaying is your thing.
It’s always interesting to see how our right wing participants rationalize horrible behavior, though.
re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth
It’s both Islamaphobic and a waste of delicious bacon! A double crime! @thedailybeast
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) December 30, 2015
Shhh, don’t tell my Rabbi I eat bacon.
re: #197 bratwurst
What part of my proposed response do you think is unrealistic? Freetoken posed a question and I suggested a quite realistic reply. The problem with overreacting to the necklace is that it gives the other side the satisfaction of having the initiative.
re: #199 Charles Johnson
It’s always interesting to see how our right wing participants rationalize horrible behavior, though.
I’m not rationalizing it. Just because I think calling attention to the damn thing on air would be counter-productive does not mean I think that ammo jewelry is cool.
re: #193 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Media: It’s porn for gun nuts. You casually wear ammunition that puts holes in human beings. It’s disgusting and an insult to humanity.
I don’t get it. She is wearing a tacky necklace… Any statement being made by it pales compared to the shit she actually says.
re: #199 Charles Johnson
It’s always interesting to see how our right wing participants rationalize horrible behavior, though.
I’m not as right wing as you think. I’m conservative, but not in the right wing sense. I’m a ball-buster, sure. I think the GOP is totally disfunctional and all Trump does is give cover to the rest of the party to pretend that they’re somehow more moderate than he. I just don’t think CNN should “take the bait”, that’s all.
But I’m just silly to think the media would call out obscenities.
re: #203 Jenner7
Media: It’s porn for gun nuts. You casually wear ammunition that puts holes in human beings. It’s disgusting and an insult to humanity.
And the families of the ninety people who are killed each and every day in this country by gun violence.
re: #201 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
My response, if I were a CNN talking head, would be insinuate the fantasy nature of the whole thing, and how obnoxious it is as jewelry.
re: #176 bratwurst
Trump has triple Rubio’s number in South Carolina. Cruz has double. Finishing a distant third in Iowa is not exactly going to help matters.
On the other hand…the same YouGov data from 12 days ago does indeed show Cruz in second in New Hampshire. So MAYBE third place will be good enough for the establishment candidate to survive…but again Rubio has Christie, Bush and Kasich literally betting their entire campaigns on getting a result there. It is going to be a bloodbath.
THUNDERDOME!
As a social tool, at some point mocking is quite appropriate.
I think if she were wearing a Confederate flag pin, I’d definitely intervene. I do think there is a line to be drawn, but if a Trump spokeswoman wants to make an ass of herself, that’s her problem.
re: #193 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
KP: Why of course not. It’s just a necklace. Is it bothering you?
M: And sometimes (dramatic pause…) a cigar is just a cigar?
re: #177 freetoken
The Panda is a Lie!
Nope he is there, standing behind the one guy with his blaster raised so it points up across his left (right in picture) shoulder. ;)
re: #200 Ace-o-aces
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Shhh, don’t tell my Rabbi I eat bacon.
My son eats bacon for every meal he can.
re: #208 freetoken
My response, if I were a CNN talking head, would be insinuate the fantasy nature of the whole thing, and how obnoxious it is as jewelry.
I understand, but first you have to articulate it. By the time you make you point about the fantasy, she would have pretty much gotten the upper hand by insinuating that your projecting your own fantasy just because she’s wearing a necklace. If you’re going to try to make an issue of that necklace, you have to be ready or else you’re just going to look like a babbling fool. That’s why you don’t take the bait.
re: #213 freetoken
KP: Exactly. I’m glad you like my necklace. What would you like to discuss about Mr. Trump today?
Nighty night lizardos
Republicans still haven’t come up with an alternative to Obamacare, but when they do, it’s sure to cover Affluenza.
— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) December 29, 2015
re: #215 Big Beautiful Door
My son eats bacon for every meal he can.
We’re going to visit Jewish friends this weekend. They asked us to bring pork roll. Lots of it.
I also fondly remember an otherwise devout Catholic college friend savoring a hamburger on a Friday in Lent because it tasted extra good.
re: #217 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
You’re missing the whole point though.
As the interviewer, I control the mic. And I control the picture. Or at least the producer does.
Throw up this picture
Image: obama-racist-latest.jpg
and ask her if a necklace is just a necklace.
re: #219 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
We’re going to visit Jewish friends this weekend. They asked us to bring pork roll. Lots of it.
I also fondly remember an otherwise devout Catholic college friend savoring a hamburger on a Friday in Lent because it tasted extra good.
Nothing so yummy as forbidden fruit.
re: #220 freetoken
You’re missing the whole point though.
As the interviewer, I control the mic. And I control the picture. Or at least the producer does.
Throw up this picture
Image: obama-racist-latest.jpgand ask her if a necklace is just a necklace.
KP: I don’t see how a necklace can be more than a necklace. I think that there is more to that caricature of the President than just a necklace. Is there something about Mr. Trump that you would like to ask about? I’m sure he wasn’t wearing a necklace tonight.
re: #220 freetoken
What should have happened in a sane world: a producer would have asked her not to go on the air wearing that politically incendiary statement.
What happened in this world: they definitely noticed it but decided not to deal with it at all because Donald Trump is good for ratings and advertising revenue. And by failing to deal with it they helped promote the insane far right Trump campaign again, as they’ve been doing for the past year.
Don’t worry, folks…she is on this:
Maybe I’ll wear a fetus next time& bring awareness to 50 million aborted people that will never ger to be on Twitter https://t.co/UTomoyYXLK
— Katrina Pierson (@KatrinaPierson) December 30, 2015
re: #219 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
We’re going to visit Jewish friends this weekend. They asked us to bring pork roll. Lots of it.
I also fondly remember an otherwise devout Catholic college friend savoring a hamburger on a Friday in Lent because it tasted extra good.
Geez, I forgot about pork roll. And I’m coming into Philly tomorrow.
I think I’ll pick some up, along with some Scrapple. :)
In no sense should CNN or any interviewer play dumb about Trump’s campaign.
That’s the whole problem with not asking Pierson about her necklace.
CNN interviewer could have been very blunt. Simply tell Ms. Pierson that her necklace is obnoxious and if she want’s to wear it that’s fine but CNN is not going to accommodate her, and say goodbye.
re: #225 bratwurst
Nothing says you’re committed to children like wearing fetuses as jewelry.
re: #225 bratwurst
“Maybe I’ll wear a fetus next time& bring awareness to 50 million aborted people”
Yup. That’s what happens when you ignore this kind of extremism. It festers and gets worse. And she’s not kidding.
re: #229 Charles Johnson
Yup. That’s what happens when you ignore this kind of extremism. It festers and gets worse. And she’s not kidding.
What will she be doing to top that? Necklace out of the bones of LGBT people?
*shudders*
re: #224 Charles Johnson
What should have happened in a sane world: a producer would have asked her not to go on the air wearing that politically incendiary statement.
What happened in this world: they definitely noticed it but decided not to deal with it at all because Donald Trump is good for ratings and advertising revenue. And by failing to deal with it they helped promote the insane far right Trump campaign again, as they’ve been doing for the past year.
“In a way, the world−view of the Party imposed itself most successfully on people incapable of understanding it. They could be made to accept the most flagrant violations of reality, because they never fully grasped the enormity of what was demanded of them, and were not sufficiently interested in public events to notice what was happening. By lack of understanding they remained sane. They simply swallowed everything, and what they swallowed did them no harm, because it left no residue behind, just as a grain of corn will pass undigested through the body of a bird.”
― George Orwell, 1984
re: #224 Charles Johnson
All you would have done is give Trump a new vein of insult to mine. It wouldn’t have changed the interview one bit. Trump and his minions feed off of these insults. As long as he has fresh fodder he keeps his schtick going. When he has to go over the same fields again and again, his supporters get bored. Besides, picking a fight over the necklace doesn’t just benefit Trump, it benefits the entire right wing.
Many people think that Trump is the problem with the Republican Party. That would suggest that things would be normal once Trump is out of the way. Nothing is farther than the truth. I think the GOP establishment loves what Trump is doing because it gives cover to their own extremism.
Trumpy hits the trifecta:
Anti-Cuban bigotry? Check.
Religious bigotry? You betcha!
Birther dog whistle? Darn tootin’!
Trump dings Cruz: “Not too many evangelicals come out of Cuba” https://t.co/vdQTo625SA pic.twitter.com/RboAAZYERe
— The Hill (@thehill) December 30, 2015
re: #232 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
All you would have done is give Trump a new vein of insult to mine. It wouldn’t have changed the interview one bit. Trump and his minions feed off of these insults. As long as he has fresh fodder he keeps his schtick going. When he has to go over the same fields again and again, his supporters get bored. Besides, picking a fight over the necklace doesn’t just benefit Trump, it benefits the entire right wing.
Many people think that Trump is the problem with the Republican Party. That would suggest that things would be normal once Trump is out of the way. Nothing is farther than the truth. I think the GOP establishment loves what Trump is doing because it gives cover to their own extremism.
And just as the networks can cut someone’s mic when that person is saying something beyond the pale, the producers could have simply cancelled the interview. No harm, no foul (except the foulness that is Katrina Pierson.)
Please, dog, let this not become a three day news cycle story like the fact that Hillary had to use the restroom!
re: #232 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
So you’re saying don’t push back because it gives him more reasons to be a bully?
re: #234 BeachDem
Please, dog, let this not become a three day news cycle story like the fact that Hillary had to use the restroom!
Could be worse. We could be stuck with more stories about how the Clinton sex scandals in the 90s are relevant now because reasons.
re: #229 Charles Johnson
Gee, I wonder why she would have escalated the necklace issue? Probably because she saw people getting offended by the bullet necklace and decided to kick it up a notch because it invigorates the entire right wing.
That’s my point about taking the bait. Her choice of imagery doesn’t just benefit her boss, it benefits the entire right wing. Hillary Clinton is no Barack Obama. She isn’t necessarily going to inspire turnout like he did. We need the GOP to be divided and demoralized, because they’re the ones who turn out to vote.
re: #232 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Donald Trump will insult whoever he wants regardless of what question was asked of Ms. Pierson.
As a journalist ought to do their background research, one would have known about Pierson’s past.
If CNN wants to do journalism, it is under no obligation to be a tool of Trump or his campaign.
I would have made a story out of Pierson herself, as an example of the kind of people Trump is enlisting to capture the know-nothing vote.
re: #233 Lidane
Not many evangelicals come out of New York, either.
re: #232 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I think the GOP establishment loves what Trump is doing because it gives cover to their own extremism.
This might have been the case over the summer, but now that it is starting to look like a ticket with Trump on top could fuck the GOP out of the Senate I can ASSURE you nobody in the GOP establishment loves what he is doing.
People don’t generally have closed door meetings to discuss how much they LOVE someone.
re: #235 stpaulbear
So you’re saying don’t push back because it gives him more reasons to be a bully?
No, because it isn’t a winning issue. It’s hard to press an attack against a necklace made of things that are, for better or worse, legal. It gives the other side the initiative. It makes you react to what they are doing, instead of picking your battles to a place and time of your own choosing to turn the tables. I just don’t see the necklace as that kind of opportunity.
re: #240 bratwurst
This might have been the case over the summer, but now that it is starting to look like a ticket with Trump on top could fuck the GOP out of the Senate I can ASSURE you nobody in the GOP establishment loves what he is doing. People don’t generally have closed door meetings to discuss how much they LOVE someone.
I’m so hoping Trump is the nominee, because that’s the worst possible outcome for the GOP.
re: #239 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Not many evangelicals come out of New York, either.
We have our share, like this pile of…
re: #237 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
It doesn’t matter if it gets the right wing going. They would have found fault with that interview regardless. The point is that CNN should have done the right thing. They should have called a spade a spade.
re: #230 Teukka
What will she be doing to top that? Necklace out of the bones of LGBT people?
*shudders*
No, she use bone for the grips of her handguns. She’s going to have a set of M1911 grips made from the bones of Social Justice Warriors vanquished by Donald Trump.
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re: #237 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
The story here really isn’t a necklace.
The story is Trump hiring someone like Katrina Pierson as his spokesman.
And the necklace only supports that story, which is this: Trump associates with some of the looniest and worst political antagonists in this country.
re: #238 freetoken
Donald Trump will insult whoever he wants regardless of what question was asked of Ms. Pierson.
As a journalist ought to do their background research, one would have known about Pierson’s past.
If CNN wants to do journalism, it is under no obligation to be a tool of Trump or his campaign.
I would have made a story out of Pierson herself, as an example of the kind of people Trump is enlisting to capture the know-nothing vote.
Donald Trump cannot start making fun of people who are offended by the necklace if they don’t make an issue of it. While he can make an issue out of nothing, why make it easier for him?
re: #242 Big Beautiful Door
I’m so hoping Trump is the nominee, because that’s the worst possible outcome for the GOP.
I am torn on that. While I think it would be the clearest path to Hillary Clinton becoming president and I would love for the ostensible adults in the GOP tent to have to deal with this mess, I really don’t want to live in a country where there is even a SMALL chance this awful man could be in power.
re: #247 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Donald Trump cannot start making fun of people who are offended by the necklace if they don’t make an issue of it. While he can make an issue out of nothing, why make it easier for him?
Did you watch tonight’s The Donald show?
I’m gonna knock it down
Anyway that I can
I’m gonna scream, I’m gonna yell
I don’t want to have to use my handsIt’s like screaming at a wall
It’s like screaming at a wall
It’s like screaming at a wall
It’s like screaming at a wall
Someday, it’s gonna fallYou built that wall up around you
And now you can’t see out
And you can’t hear my words
No matter how loud I shoutIt’s like screaming at a wall
It’s like screaming at a wall
It’s like screaming at a wall
It’s like screaming at a wall
Someday, it’s gonna fallYou’re safe inside and you know it
‘Cause I can’t get to you
And you know I resent it
And my temper growsYou better reinforce those walls
Until you don’t have no room to stand
‘Cause someday the bricks are gonna fall
Someday, I’m gonna use my head
re: #244 Jenner7
The right wing would probably never even notice the interview unless somebody makes an issue of the necklace. And you can bet that if you make an stand on this necklace now, the other candidates will adorn their own staff similarly. They love this sort of thing because it’s an emotional issue that they can run with, because their economic and political issues are such disasters.
It would be like facing your parents after you did something stupid like breaking a window. Wouldn’t you love to be able to change the subject?
re: #248 bratwurst
I am torn on that. While I think it would be the clearest path to Hillary Clinton becoming president and I would love for the ostensible adults in the GOP tent to have to deal with this mess, I really don’t want to live in a country where there is even a SMALL chance this awful man could be in power.
I agree. Between unreliable turnout, inexplicable right wing support for a party that has no respect for its own members, voter ID laws, I don’t want to take the chance.
I too, ger to be. The panda was 4th row down 3 or 4 in from my right?
I used to get a kick out of peoples response to absolute horseshoe like this being ” oh, what were we supposed to do…”
yeah.
I believe that in any competition, initiative is the most important thing to have. In the example at the top of this post, I think confronting the spokeswoman about Trump’s previous statement (I think Hillary Clinton would be a great president) is a better line of attack (I know it’s CNN, but I can dream) than going after the necklace. Make her squirm, make her try to spin that instead of letting her bait you into changing the subject. What would you like to see on that screenshot? “Trump in 2008: ‘Clinton would make a great President’”? or “Trump spokeswoman wears necklace made of bullets”?
re: #254 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I’m not really sure anymore.
I remember Trump supporters from back in the day on Jerry Springer.
re: #256 Charles Johnson
* heaves big sigh *
Kind of makes you wonder where we’ll be this time next year doesn’t it?
You know Charles, I’m not defending her choice of jewelry, and I don’t advocate trolling. Nowhere in anything I said tonight should give anybody that impression. We have a disagreement in the way CNN should react to the necklace, but I take offense that you seem to have associated me without basis with a cause I despise. I repeat: nowhere did I say that her necklace was a good thing. Politics is (are) ugly. It is a fight which has to be waged with clear thinking. While the producers are perfectly within their rights to insist she leave the necklace in the green room (or wherever they leave their stuff), I think it would ultimately be an issue that doesn’t lead anywhere productive. I also gave reasons for my position. If you want to discuss the argument (premises and conclusions), I would be all for it. I stuck around for a while to engage in discussion and state my case. I don’t think I was disrespectful or demeaning to anybody.
I have said before that if you don’t get downdinged, you’re not trying hard enough. I’m not here to troll, I was here to make an argument for a different reaction to the spokeswoman, not to support her in any way.
Anyone see this?
.@ShaunKing Good morning…
— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) December 29, 2015
re: #260 Jenner7
BTW I don’t understand how those Twitter embeds work. The bottom post has a time stamp but the top one doesn’t. Is Shaun King responding to Goldie Taylor or the other way around?
Possibly the funniest thing I’ve ever read.
Enjoy.
Someone who never saw ‘Star Wars’ hilariously live-tweeted the original trilogy: https://t.co/UxmMlPc7BT pic.twitter.com/VshtsFNcup
— Mashable (@mashable) December 30, 2015
re: #261 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
That’s Goldie’s response to his tweet.
Has there been any legal investigation of the missing money?
re: #265 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Not that I’m aware of, just accusations. But Goldie’s piece on Shaun was fairly tame. I’m not sure why he would go after her.
re: #266 Jenner7
Not that I’m aware of, just accusations. But Goldie’s piece on Shaun was fairly tame. I’m not sure why he would go after her.
Literally everything I’ve read from him in the last 4-6 weeks, Shaun has been nothing but a raging asshole. I unfollowed him.
re: #266 Jenner7
Not that I’m aware of, just accusations. But Goldie’s piece on Shaun was fairly tame. I’m not sure why he would go after her.
It seems one his followers went after her, and then Shaun tweeted the hit piece. I’m not sure what he hopes to accomplish by being a dick.
Because I believed you. I had and have no reason to believe those specific funds were misused. https://t.co/rDh4ayezJ2
— Goldie Taylor (@goldietaylor) December 29, 2015
Just finding the time to log in and catch a bit of this discussion.
Whut a thread!
It’s got a little of everything in it. I’ll make sure not to step in it.
Guitar question: I am barely a novice, so I only know enough to not be able to figure some things out. If I’m playing along with a song in G, will a pentatonic G minor scale work, or will it have discordant notes? It seems like it would work, but I don’t know if maybe I have lame ears.
re: #270 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
I’m not even sure he has stolen money, but personally attacking those (DeRay, Netta, and Goldie) who question him is dickish. I mean, little ole’ me got blocked by Shaun on FB because I criticized his anti-vaccine post. Buck up, Shaun.
re: #273 Jenner7
I’m not even sure he has stolen money, but personally attacking those (DeRay, Netta, and Goldie) who question him is dickish. I mean, little ole’ me got blocked by Shaun on FB because I criticized his anti-vaccine post. Buck up, Shaun.
Some of these “new media” types have remarkably thin skins. If you can’t take criticism, better find a new line of work, people.
Off to bed. Next we speak, I’ll be sitting in a hotel in beautiful Philadelphia, waiting for the new year to arrive.
‘Night, Lizards.
re: #276 makeitstop
I’ll be waving. I’ll be in the pier near Ben Franklin Bridge, 7th window from the end, lower level, south side.
re: #246 freetoken
The story here really isn’t a necklace.
The story is Trump hiring someone like Katrina Pierson as his spokesman.
And the necklace only supports that story, which is this: Trump associates with some of the looniest and worst political antagonists in this country.
It’s his freak show. He’s the big barker, they help him do the contortions and the snake lady bit and such. He pulls into town with the trucks and they set up the displays. Come one…come all! See The Political Death Defying TRUMP who ate the media!
Katrina Pierson is a full on loon. This smacks of Trump purposely sending out his side show performers to say outrageous things and they can call it more political correctness in the media. There will be more of this. They do want to get in peoples faces and do this low-cost but effective bullshit to grandstand on the most base issue: White people want to bitch and moan about whatever and everyone has to by law listen to them…because fucking whaa, whaaaaaaaaaa!
Okay…must be a shift change. I’ll punch out now.
Some small developments in the Planned Parenthood video case involving Chuck C. Johnson.
There was a hearing Dec. 23 about Chuck’s attempt to avoid revealing his source for the videos he has under a journalist’s shield law. The judge hearing the case posed three questions to counsels, and gave them until Dec. 28 to suggest clarifications of said questions.
Here are the judge’s original questions from Dec. 23.
1. Did you disclose any material covered by the TRO to Mr. Johnson and if so, what did you disclose?
2. Do you know the identity of “Patriotgeist,” and if so, who is or are he/she/they?
3. Do you have any information concerning the disclosure of material to Mr. Johnson or who “Patriotgeist” is, and if so, what is that information?
The judge will rule on Johnson’s motion to quash the subpoena served on him after plaintiffs and defendants respond with their declarations.
The transcript of the hearing won’t be publicly available until March 21, so it’s hard to know the context of the judge’s questions. But I suspect he is trying to close any possible loopholes before requiring Chuck to reveal his source. One of the loopholes to the state shield law is whether the plaintiffs (National Abortion Federation) have exhausted all possible methods of learning the source’s identity. The judge is also trying to get everyone on record as saying whether they provided the materials to Chuck. If Chuck is indeed the only person who knows who Patriot Geist is, the judge may well force him to reveal PG’s identity.
And now off to teach young minds. It’s the last week of classes for the first term!! Just one more day of teaching left.
re: #281 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
And now off to teach young minds. It’s the last week of classes for the first term!! Just one more day of teaching left.
You do good work. You’re like my dad, a teacher right down to the bones. You’re good people.
re: #278 ObserverArt
It’s his freak show. He’s the big barker, they help him do the contortions and the snake lady bit and such. He pulls into town with the trucks and they set up the displays. Come one…come all! See The Political Death Defying TRUMP who ate the media!
Katrina Pierson is a full on loon. This smacks of Trump purposely sending out his side show performers to say outrageous things and they can call it more political correctness in the media. There will be more of this. They do want to get in peoples faces and do this low-cost but effective bullshit to grandstand on the most base issue: White people want to bitch and moan about whatever and everyone has to by law listen to them…because fucking whaa, whaaaaaaaaaa!
Pierson is black. That’s a huge part of her perceived usefulness to Trump, her complexion runs interference, allowing the campaign to think it’s pulling one over on minority voters. That strategy will fall apart in the general election, but for now her presence is effectively being aimed at conservatives, who are more interested in the kind of token gesture towards diversity that she embodies than the real thing.
re: #225 bratwurst
Don’t worry, folks…she is on this:
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Maybe she should wear anal beads the next time to bring awareness to how much of an asshole she is.
re: #225 bratwurst
Don’t worry, folks…she is on this:
Had to Tweet that. lol
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@KatrinaPierson Maybe you should wear anal beads the next time to bring awareness to how much of an asshole you are.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) December 30, 2015
re: #282 teleskiguy
You do good work. You’re like my dad, a teacher right down to the bones. You’re good people.
Many thanks.
The entire GOP field and especially Trump is right out of some late 80’s early 90’s dystopian B-movie. Having your political spokesperson wear bullets would have been hilariously over the top back in 1991 and considered typical hack screen writing.
We now live in a world in which politcal and nationalist sentiment is required to be publicly displayed at all times for easy identification- flag lapel pins, open carry, and now bullet jewelry.
Wow. Fascism did indeed come wrapped in the American flag and carrying a cross. The one thing missed by this prediction was bullet jewelry worn by national campaign spokespersons.
re: #111 gocart mozart
That idea has possibilities for a new product…
tRumpPlugz brand suppositories, made with REAL bullets for insane a@@holes! If you’re a complete pain in the a@@, use tRumpPlugz!
Contraindications: Do not use tRumpPlugz if the rectal cavity is occupied by your cranium. Using tRumpPlugz in a rectal orifice packed with cranium will likely result in “shooting off at the mouth.”
re: #283 goddamnedfrank
Pierson is black. That’s a huge part of her perceived usefulness to Trump, her complexion runs interference, allowing the campaign to think it’s pulling one over on minority voters. That strategy will fall apart in the general election, but for now her presence is effectively being aimed at conservatives, who are more interested in the kind of token gesture towards diversity that she embodies than the real thing.
It might also be why the interviewer held fire, since he’s a white guy. He might have feared that if he’d gotten into a major argument with her over her jewelry, then she’d deploy a weaponized charge of racism.
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