Ammon Bundy Says the Bible Wanted Him to Take Over a Bird Sanctuary

These people are not right in the head
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Here’s a reminder that one of the disturbingly weird motivations behind the domestic terrorist takeover of Oregon’s Malheur Wildlife Refuge is plain old right wing religious fanaticism.

“We read in Genesis where God gives the earth to man, he did not give it to government, he gave it to man to care and to cultivate, and that means to take care of it and to use it. That is necessary and that is what the Lord has done.”

Bundy went on to say that the government is violating “scriptural” precepts by controlling land, before arguing that his militia needed to use “shock and awe” to “remove the chains of tyranny and the chains of oppression so the people can regain a hope.”

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freetoken  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:04:34pm

Because Je$u$.

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freetoken  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:04:46pm

We are not surprised.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:05:05pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:06:38pm

I’d think he was a shrewd guy, using religion to gather dimmer people to his cause, but his goals are so bonkers, and he actually thinks he’ll achieve them, so I think he’s actually mentally ill.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:06:50pm

Lame bible. My book told me to take over a lupanarium in Ostia.

Groove in G:

Groove In G | Playing For Change

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:08:28pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:08:34pm

But remember, folks, only Muslims can be terrorists.

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b.d.  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:10:32pm

Can you say “radical Christian terrorism”?

I knew you could.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:12:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:14:39pm

Wow, this tweet is taking off.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:15:00pm

Mental break. Hilarious birth at home story.

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b.d.  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:16:51pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Wow, this tweet is taking off.

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It made me chortle

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:18:26pm
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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:19:11pm

Shocked by their stupidity and awed by their incompetence?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:23:02pm
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Naked Bunny with a Whip  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:25:29pm

Ugh, these paranoid idiots who think that government is an entity that exists unto itself, apart from and imposed upon humanity. They treat it like an enemy god.

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TedStriker  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:25:56pm

Damn, that birdbrain Ammon and his posse are fucking cuckoo…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:26:17pm
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:27:39pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Because in the end Conservatives don’t want to live in their own fantasy world. Conservatives love living in the real, more Liberal World with all of its trappings, the music, the food, the arts, the social programs they publicly deride but privately collect, and being included amongst “the cool” people.

Truth is, a Conservative world does exist in various pockets around the world, but virtually nobody wants to actually live there. They just like and long for the fantasy.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:29:33pm

I don’t know if anyone else here watches Steven Universe, but it is a really good cartoon (there are lots of really good cartoons right now). They ran an episode every day this week, all of which were good, with today’s being a great episode going into hiatus.

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withak  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:31:25pm

re: #20 Belafon

My kids watched that off-and-on when it first came out and I found Steven to be really annoying, so I wrote it off. Now it sounds like it’s got a huge adult following and has Adventure Time-like depth. Maybe I’ll give it another shot.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:38:31pm

I want a quesadilla. I have no cheese or tortillas.

Haven’t shopped since my return. Will it be refrieds only or will I venture out…………………………………………………………………………………..

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CuriousLurker  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:39:39pm

#JeSuisMilo? Srsly, Twitter? The martyrdom/holocaust comparisons are too STUPID.

And WTF is a “neocohen” supposed to be? Sounds like an antisemitic slur to me. Yep, just googled it—I was right.

I should’ve stuck with the book I was reading.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:41:33pm
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Tigger2  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:42:07pm
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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:43:22pm

So coming home from Friday night out-to-dinner we drove through one of the most violent storms I’ve ever experienced. Hail slamming the car, sounding like baseballs hitting the roof. Visibility only a few feet with a solid wall of water and hail. In my friend’s brand new, pristine car, less than two months old. We sounded like guys in a comedy watching a bad fistfight or something… BAM! OOO! BAM! BAM! OOO! OOO! She’s going ow! Ow! Ow! as we crawled down the freeway… can’t stop there… BAM! OOO! in unison.

We finally got home safely and I’ve never been more ready for this rum ‘n coke. I fear seeing her brand new “baby” in the sunlight tomorrow. :(

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:43:31pm

I’ve been watching the internecine warfare on FR between the Trumpets and the Cruziers. Add in the whole “Birther” thing, and it’s amusing as hell. When Cruz wins Iowa, and Trump takes NH, I suspect that it will become downright (more) toxic than it is now.

I love the sound of Wingnut Friendly Fire in the morning.

RBS

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:45:39pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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I think 500 characters max. That would allow for slightly longer explanations, but you’d still have to stay relatively short.

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b.d.  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:45:39pm

Oooopsie!

Two Texas politicians made public details of an investigation into a terrorism suspect while it was still in progress, potentially jeopardizing the inquiry, three sources familiar with the matter said on Friday.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick released details from documents that were still under court seal, the sources said.

reuters.com

Abbott is a Twitter troll teabagger that makes Rick Perry look like Hall of Fame diplomat

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William Lewis  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:47:19pm

re: #23 CuriousLurker

#JeSuisMilo? Srsly, Twitter? The martyrdom/holocaust comparisons are too STUPID.

And WTF is a “neocohen” supposed to be? Sounds like an antisemitic slur to me. Yep, just googled it—I was right.

I should’ve stuck with the book I was reading.

Reminds me how I watched a good video by JihadiJew on Youtube and now the (*(*^*&^@*&@##!~~~~! thing keeps recommending all these anti-Semitic CT videos. Ugh.

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:48:02pm

re: #28 Belafon

I think 500 characters max. That would allow for slightly longer explanations, but you’d still have to stay relatively short.

I’d go this route…

200-250 characters excluding handles and URLs. This allows that many characters of thought and URLs never truncate. And it’s still microblogging.

My two cents worth.

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William Lewis  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:48:30pm

re: #25 Tigger2

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The NRA ceased to exist in 1977. A very different thing with the same name has been the ZombieNRA ever since.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:49:04pm

re: #16 Naked Bunny with a Whip

Ugh, these paranoid idiots who think that government is an entity that exists unto itself, apart from and imposed upon humanity. They treat it like an enemy god.

Freaking Red Scare/Cold War Parania. If people would just look around them, they’d see that we are so interconnected that some melded form of Socialism and Capitalism is necessary and, In fact, is what we have.

When the war began in the late 1930s, the world’s population was approximately 2 billion

WE now have that many in the US alone.

To talk to someone in Japan from NYC was rarely done because it was considered expensive and the quality was terrible. People send telegrams instead *STOP*

NOW we have Skype.

It is not 1960 anymore and we have contraception implants (dammit!)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:49:28pm

re: #30 William Lewis

Yeah, the recommendations are annoying as hell sometimes. WAY off base.

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Brian J.  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:49:39pm

re: #25 Tigger2

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There is only one suitable response to Chuckie’s words…

Your Proposal is Acceptable

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:49:47pm

re: #25 Tigger2

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and like all forms of worship houses, they take Mastercard, Visa, Amex, etc …

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:50:22pm

re: #25 Tigger2

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Not to long ago, I posted this to some wingnut acquaintances of mine.

I’m surprised that you aren’t reacting to Obama’s latest statement on gun control… “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.”

After they went 7 kinds of batshit crazy about “He’s destroying the Constitution, yada yada”, I simply posted to them… “Oh my mistake, that was a statement made in the 30’s by the then president of the NRA as he was gathering support for FDR’s Federal Firearms Act of 34 and the Gun Control Act of 38”

Yea, I’m a bit of dick when I get bored.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:50:51pm

re: #31 WhatEVs

I’d go this route…

200-250 characters excluding handles and URLs. This allows that many characters of thought and URLs never truncate. And it’s still microblogging.

My two cents worth.

70 characters would be twice as good.

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danarchy  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:51:48pm

re: #33 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Freaking Red Scare/Cold War Parania. If people would just look around them, they’d see that we are so interconnected that some melded form of Socialism and Capitalism is necessary and, In fact, is what we have.

When the war began in the late 1930s, the world’s population was approximately 2 billion

WE now have that many in the US alone.

To talk to someone in Japan from NYC was rarely done because it was considered expensive and the quality was terrible. People send telegrams instead *STOP*

NOW we have Skype.

It is not 1960 anymore and we have contraception implants (dammit!)

Not quite, only about 320 million.

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bratwurst  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:52:10pm

re: #30 William Lewis

Reminds me how I watched a good video by JihadiJew on Youtube and now the (*(*^*&^@*&@##!~~~~! thing keeps recommending all these anti-Semitic CT videos. Ugh.

Once I linked the ad from cable TV featuring the guy who was VERY cheerful about ordering catheters over the phone on another forum as a joke. For the next week I was seeing his cheerful catheter using face EVERYWHERE I WENT ONLINE.

And then there is the time CuriousLurker linked a mannequin head on Amazon with an evil looking facial expression…and I couldn’t escape that disturbing image for days. Still gives me the creeps.

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:52:27pm

re: #33 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

When the war began in the late 1930s, the world’s population was approximately 2 billion

WE now have that many in the US alone

We’re over 300M in the US. There are now two countries with more than that many people, though.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:53:08pm

re: #39 danarchy

Not quite, only about 320 million.

all the more illustrative.

No wait, I’m tired, forgive me.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:54:07pm

re: #40 bratwurst

Once I linked the ad from cable TV featuring the guy who was VERY cheerful about ordering catheters over the phone on another forum as a joke. For the next week I was seeing his cheerful catheter using face EVERYWHERE I WENT ONLINE.

And then there is the time CuriousLurker linked a mannequin head on Amazon with an evil looking facial expression…and I couldn’t escape that disturbing image for days. Still gives me the creeps.

YES… I remember the Mannequin heads. That seemed to have real staying power, took a LONG time for that to work its way out of my targeted ads. /casts_wary_glance_at_CL

RBS

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:54:36pm

Breitbrats strike again…

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CuriousLurker  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:54:40pm

re: #31 WhatEVs

I’d go this route…

200-250 characters excluding handles and URLs. This allows that many characters of thought and URLs never truncate. And it’s still microblogging.

My two cents worth.

I was thinking exactly the same thing earlier. If you’re following hundreds, or in some cases thousands of people, there simply isn’t time to read more than a couple of hundred characters as tweets fly by.

That’s what I like about Twitter in the first place—I can get quick, bite-sized chunks of info, allowing me to click through on what interests me & ignore the rest.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:55:15pm

re: #43 Reality Based Steve

YES… I remember the Mannequin heads. That seemed to have real staying power, took a LONG time for that to work its way out of my targeted ads. /casts_wary_glance_at_CL

RBS

Remember Max HeadRoom? A masterpiece of CGI

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:57:16pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:57:20pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:58:56pm

I’m tired of the Bible Belt sucking the rest of us nearly dry.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:59:14pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

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Goddamm! Frank.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 8, 2016 • 6:59:45pm

re: #40 bratwurst

re: #43 Reality Based Steve

You guys better watch yourselves. Don’t make me summon the creepy mannequin head again…

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:01:03pm

re: #45 CuriousLurker

That’s what I like about Twitter in the first place—I can get quick, bite-sized chunks of info, allowing me to click through on what interests me & ignore the rest.

Me too. I want to be able to go quickly through everything. A Read More button would be cumbersome. I’m def not a fan of this change.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:01:58pm

re: #51 CuriousLurker

You guys better watch yourselves. Don’t make me summon the creepy mannequin head…

ROLF…. Offers to fluff pillows, make snack, anything to not unleash the CMH

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:03:57pm
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jaunte  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:05:07pm

Check mark discipline is the first worldiest of disciplines.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:05:32pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I do believe I detect the presence of some sour grapes there.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:06:01pm

So, if I try to make a private comment and hit the preview button, does it show what I typed or the little box that says PRIVATE COMMENT. ‘cause I do not get the little box

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:06:59pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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At first I read Rage Furrie.

:)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:07:03pm

re: #25 Tigger2

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:09:06pm
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CuriousLurker  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:09:17pm

re: #57 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

So, if I try to make a private comment and hit the preview button, does it show what I typed or the little box that says PRIVATE COMMENT. ‘cause I do not get the little box

In preview I see the box that says Private Comment (FF on Win10).

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:09:31pm

My Snow Peak pack and carry fireplace showed up today, YAAASSS!

Fire! Fire!! Fire!!!
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Lancelot Link  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:11:17pm

re: #43 Reality Based Steve

YES… I remember the Mannequin heads. That seemed to have real staying power, took a LONG time for that to work its way out of my targeted ads. /casts_wary_glance_at_CL

RBS

Oh, you mean this one?

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Great White Snark  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:11:40pm

re: #52 WhatEVs

Me too. I want to be able to go quickly through everything. A Read More button would be cumbersome. I’m def not a fan of this change.

Next big hashtag just might be #tl;dr

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:11:48pm

re: #63 Lancelot Link

No. Just. No. :)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:11:50pm
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jaunte  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:11:56pm

Oregon standoff: Idaho group arrives to ‘secure perimeter, prevent Waco-style situation’

Curtiss and Chris McIntire, another group spokesman, called the situation a “double-edged sword” - the perimeter is meant to protect the occupiers from an outside attack but also to protect the Harney County community from those who arrive in solidarity with Bundy’s cause but may be prone to violence, they said. The Idaho group is here to keep the situation “peaceful” and reassure the community that it isn’t in danger, they said.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:13:04pm

So @owillis made a comment about racist Trump supporters. Getting deluged now with offended people whose slurs prove him correct…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:17:19pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:19:29pm

re: #67 jaunte

Oregon standoff: Idaho group arrives to ‘secure perimeter, prevent Waco-style situation’

Think of the money we’ve wasted on police forces.

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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:20:18pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

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If Cruz thinks his guns will always protect his daughters from being raped, he’s planning on going along on their dates. Ew. Creeeeeeepy.

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:21:50pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Waiting for the Wyoming group to arrive to protect the Idaho group from the Nevada and Arizona groups.

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Tigger2  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:24:02pm

re: #71 allegro

If Cruz thinks his guns will always protect his daughters from being raped, he’s planning on going along on their dates. Ew. Creeeeeeepy.

How I handled it was to have my daughters dates come in a meet me, They didn’t like meeting a 250 lb biker with a beard down to his belly. lol

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Great White Snark  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:24:51pm

re: #72 jaunte

Waiting for the Wyoming group to arrive to protect the Idaho group from the Nevada and Arizona groups.

The uninvited militia maze of confusion.

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lawhawk  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:25:39pm

re: #72 jaunte

Waiting for the Wyoming group to arrive to protect the Idaho group from the Nevada and Arizona groups.

Michigan will not be silent. They will not go quietly into the night. They will not be muzzled. They are the Michigan militia. And they will be heard. WOLVERINES!!!!////

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:26:07pm

re: #61 CuriousLurker

In preview I see the box that says Private Comment (FF on Win10).

I’m doing it wrong.

thx

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:26:15pm

Sigh, going for Republican lite again, do they never learn?

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:26:23pm

re: #72 jaunte

Waiting for the Wyoming group to arrive to protect the Idaho group from the Nevada and Arizona groups.

You get a Militia! And YOU get a Militia!!!! AND YOU get a MILITIA!!!!! AND EVERYBODY GETS A MILITIA!!!!

RBS

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:27:26pm

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Decatur Deb  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:28:03pm

re: #77 ausador

Sigh, going for Republican lite again, do they never learn?

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Politico is Freep with adult supervision,

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:28:09pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Michigan will not be silent. They will not go quietly into the night. They will not be muzzled. They are the Michigan militia. And they will be heard. WOLVERINES!!!!////

I think you’re thinking of the UM Basketball team.

RBS

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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:28:57pm

re: #73 Tigger2

How I handled it was to have my daughters dates come in a meet me, They didn’t like meeting a 250 lb biker with a beard down to his belly. lol

Heh. My dad was too mellow and funny to scare any of my dates. But being a nerdy kinda girl, so were my dates so he never felt any need to. If given the chance he would have been more likely to advise them “go on and kiss her, she won’t bite!”

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Tigger2  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:30:26pm

re: #77 ausador

Sigh, going for Republican lite again, do they never learn?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:31:04pm

re: #67 jaunte

Oregon standoff: Idaho group arrives to ‘secure perimeter, prevent Waco-style situation’

I hope the community is fairly strong in giving them feedback that if none of them were there at all the place would be even more peaceful.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:32:43pm

is it too early to go OT and ask a tech question?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:33:43pm

re: #84 Feline Fearless Leader

I hope the community is fairly strong in giving them feedback that if none of them were there at all the place would be even more peaceful.

little boys playing Cowboys and Indians —cold-war style

It’d be sad if it weren’t so godammed lethal.

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Tigger2  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:34:01pm

re: #83 Tigger2

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Sorry about that. I just lose my patience with Dem’s in office that don’t have a backbone.

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:34:17pm

re: #84 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve seen reports the kids there would like to go back to school.

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Great White Snark  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:34:24pm

Watching Rose Hamid (the lady kicked out of the trump rally) on CNN. She went to the rally wearing a a scarf that covers the head and neck. Big yellow star that says Muslim on it. Shirt that says SALAM. I come in peace. She expresses herself pretty clearly. Calm and sharp. Very pleasant, evenly speaking with Don Lemon.

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:40:13pm

re: #87 Tigger2

Sorry about that. I just lose my patience with Dem’s in office that don’t have a backbone.

Truth means never having to say you’re sorry.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:41:17pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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Can you imagine what it would be like if this kid had a life?

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Tigger2  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:42:09pm

re: #90 WhatEVs

Truth means never having to say you’re sorry.

I know but there are a few words I just don’t like to use, but they slip out sometimes when I get really mad.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:44:55pm

re: #67 jaunte

Oregon standoff: Idaho group arrives to ‘secure perimeter, prevent Waco-style situation’

Right-wingers have absolutely no sense of irony. Or self.

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jaunte  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:46:44pm

“You’re not the good guy with a gun, I’m the good guy with a gun!”

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b.d.  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:46:55pm

re: #93 Pawn of the Oppressor

Right-wingers have absolutely no sense of irony. Or self.

Nope

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:47:46pm

re: #25 Tigger2

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Belafon  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:48:23pm

re: #91 Pawn of the Oppressor

Can you imagine what it would be like if this kid had a life?

Luckily, his parents raised him to be lazy: dilbert.com

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:49:25pm

Well gang, I’m going to hang it up. Have to start doing some paperwork to figure out just exactly how to allocate the 700+ million dollars I plan on coming into shortly.

Have a good night.

I’m otter here!
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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:56:15pm

re: #91 Pawn of the Oppressor

Can you imagine what it would be like if this kid had a life?

Chuck is a very damaged human being. I might have some sympathy for him if he wasn’t such a malicious fuckhead dedicated to causing harm to others.

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theheat  Jan 8, 2016 • 7:58:11pm

Most of these “ranchers” are bigtime bible thumpers and homeskoolrs. I see them on Facebook, receive the same newspapers and magazines, attend many of the same events, and they’re always tripping over each other’s dicks to out-Jesus each other. And let us not forget Cowboy-effing-Church - it’s like a necessary amino acid, like Lysine to the Jurassic Park dinosaurs. From there, the babyklukkers and gun freaks all converge. It’s truly a freak show under glass.

I posted this before, but here’s your typical - not atypical - anti-government wingnut rancher: Meet Calvin Greenup. I think in the wingnut bullshit bingo game, Calvin’s scorecard is completely full.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:03:04pm

re: #98 Reality Based Steve

It’s now 800. And if no one wins on Saturday, it will be $1 Billion on Tuesday. And yes, this was planned by the Multi-State Lottery Association when they changed the odds.

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:04:01pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Chuck is a very damaged human being. I might have some sympathy for him if he wasn’t such a malicious fuckhead dedicated to causing harm to others.

Every time I’d feel any sympathy for him, he opens his foul mouth (keyboard) and any sympathy I felt evaporates. Now, I can’t muster a drop. He brings it on himself.

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:04:20pm

re: #101 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s now 800. And if no one wins on Saturday, it will be $1 Billion on Tuesday. And yes, this was planned by the Multi-State Lottery Association when they changed the odds.

Maybe it’s about time for me to buy one. Probably can’t get one here. Darn!

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BeachDem  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:08:04pm

We’re one week into the new year, and I am officially sick of:

Donald Trump
Media coverage of Donald Trump
All the Bundys
All the Bundy gangs
All the militias
Media coverage of the Bundys and the militias
Ted Cruz
Paul Ryan and his obnoxious speakerhood

Today, right up the road, a couple went to a mall to buy his 78-year-old mother (birthday tomorrow) a gift. The mother stayed in the car in the parking lot. This was 12:30 this afternoon. Couple comes out—mom’s lying in a pool of blood in the car—purse gone, gunshot wound. Died at the hospital.

America, 2016.

I. Hate. People.

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William Lewis  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:08:49pm

re: #101 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s now 800. And if no one wins on Saturday, it will be $1 Billion on Tuesday. And yes, this was planned by the Multi-State Lottery Association when they changed the odds.

There’s a secondary prize of “only” 1 million. Frankly, if God’s listening, I’d rather win that. Pay all my bills off, get a nice home and some toys. Set aside a trust for my son’s college tuition even at someplace expensive. Give some to a couple of deserving charities, and then go back to work again. Best of all possible outcomes.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:08:49pm

One thing I really admire about Snow Peak is that unlike a lot of foreign companies that sell products in America they’re all like “Wait, you don’t know Japanese? That must suck for your sad little bitch ass, you should probably learn Japanese or something.” I mean, that’s what I assume they’re saying here. It’s a refreshing alternative to the bad translation problem, just not even try.

They do this with all their stuff. I love that the single instruction actually that got translated into English is “Outdoor use only,” because their lawyers were probably like “Wait a sec, these are Americans we’re dealing with here, some asshole is going to try roasting marshmallows in their bedroom on this thing unless we tell them not to.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:08:56pm

re: #103 retired cynic

Where’s “here”?

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theheat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:09:41pm

re: #104 BeachDem

So sorry to hear that. People can be sickening animals.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:09:56pm

re: #102 WhatEVs

Every time I’d feel any sympathy for him, he opens his foul mouth (keyboard) and any sympathy I felt evaporates. Now, I can’t muster a drop. He brings it on himself.

I wonder if he has strange dreams about waking up early, and driving to a respectable 7-4 job with nice co-workers and a decent paycheck, where people like him, and he’s a decent human being who doesn’t enjoy other people’s misery. And then he wakes up with a start.

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:10:17pm

re: #101 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s now 800. And if no one wins on Saturday, it will be $1 Billion on Tuesday. And yes, this was planned by the Multi-State Lottery Association when they changed the odds.

Changed how?

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:11:11pm

re: #107 Eric The Fruit Bat

Where’s “here”?

Illinois.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:13:10pm

re: #111 retired cynic

Illinois sells powerball. :)

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:13:17pm

re: #111 retired cynic

Illinois.

Go to IN or WI. Where in IL are you?

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:13:23pm

re: #89 Great White Snark

Watching Rose Hamid (the lady kicked out of the trump rally) on CNN. She went to the rally wearing a a scarf that covers the head and neck. Big yellow star that says Muslim on it. Shirt that says SALAM. I come in peace. She expresses herself pretty clearly. Calm and sharp. Very pleasant, evenly speaking with Don Lemon.

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:13:42pm

re: #112 GlutenFreeJesus

Really? Well, I’m on that tomorrow!

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:13:47pm

re: #112 GlutenFreeJesus

Illinois sells powerball. :)

When did they start? They used to sell Mega alone.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:14:26pm

re: #111 retired cynic

Absotivley you can get it there.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:14:48pm

re: #104 BeachDem

We’re one week into the new year, and I am officially sick of:

Donald Trump
Media coverage of Donald Trump
All the Bundys
All the Bundy gangs
All the militias
Media coverage of the Bundys and the militias
Ted Cruz
Paul Ryan and his obnoxious speakerhood

Today, right up the road, a couple went to a mall to buy his 78-year-old mother (birthday tomorrow) a gift. The mother stayed in the car in the parking lot. This was 12:30 this afternoon. Couple comes out—mom’s lying in a pool of blood in the car—purse gone, gunshot wound. Died at the hospital.

America, 2016.

I. Hate. People.

The fuck

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:14:50pm

re: #117 Eric The Fruit Bat

<Grin>

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:18:43pm

re: #110 WhatEVs

The original odds were 160+ million to 1. Then they incresed the number of white balls dramatically while reducing the powerball modestly to change the odds to 292 million to 1.

In CA, the payout is parimutuel.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:19:27pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:19:51pm

re: #116 WhatEVs

Since I can’t remember what I had for lunch, I must pass this question on to another Illinois resident. :)

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Great White Snark  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:25:16pm

On a lighter note, I just Paged what I hope will help any of you rescue certain hazy outdoor images.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:26:51pm

Been there, got the T-shirt…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:26:57pm

NOTE TO SELF:

When tired do not attempt to clean disk space on your macbook. I have some app called iDoctor that won’t let me trash it. I trash it, empty the trash and the icon is still in my apps folder. I shut it down, restarted, deleted everything from Finder, monitored the disk activity …

F me!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:27:05pm

re: #122 GlutenFreeJesus

I think they added powerball sometime around 2007 or so-there was some mutual exclusion deal between Powerball and MegaMillions where you could only have one or the other, eventually the two sides hammered deals out and both became pretty much nationwide with 6 states (AK, AL, HI, MS, UT, NV) not allowing either game.

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:27:57pm

re: #120 Eric The Fruit Bat

The original odds were 160+ million to 1. Then they incresed the number of white balls dramatically while reducing the powerball modestly to change the odds to 292 million to 1.

In CA, the payout is parimutuel.

So there used to be like 56 balls, now there’s like 60?

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:29:04pm

re: #122 GlutenFreeJesus

Since I can’t remember what I had for lunch, I must pass this question on to another Illinois resident. :)

I’m from Chicago, gone about 5 years now. I used to have to go to Kenosha to get Powerball tix.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:29:05pm

re: #124 ausador

Been there, got the T-shirt…

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just went thru that with google

oy

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:29:58pm

re: #116 WhatEVs

When did they start? They used to sell Mega alone.

am an IL resident, don’t have a clue

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:30:16pm

re: #127 WhatEVs

69 White balls, 26 red.

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:32:57pm

re: #130 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

am an IL resident, don’t have a clue

I just googled it and IL does have Powerball now.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:34:11pm

It’s time to bbl it.

shut down system, go to bed, wake-up and hope for the best.

weet dreams all.

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:36:56pm

re: #133 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It’s time to bbl it.

shut down system, go to bed, wake-up and hope for the best.

weet dreams all.

Good luck! Hope it heals itself!

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bratwurst  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:37:48pm

Anyone else dreading this upcoming “13 Hours” movie? Aside from the Benghazi!!11! bleating we are going to be hearing, I have really fucking had it with the entertainment wing of the military-industrial complex.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:45:38pm

Thinks a lot of himself I guess, glad it bit him in the behind…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:45:39pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:50:55pm

I wonder what would happen if one of them got struck down by lightning…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:53:44pm

re: #135 bratwurst

I’d rather re-watch Thirteen Days.

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ipsos  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:55:08pm

re: #20 Belafon

My daughter is hooked on the show, and she’s bringing me along.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:55:10pm

I gotta say, I think the SOTU this year is going to be epic.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 8, 2016 • 8:55:49pm

re: #46 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Max Headroom, a brilliant series, was not done in CGI. Not advanced enough at that time to render on a TV series schedule.

Matt Frewer played his digital doppelganger with a prosthetic CG-looking mask.
The line-y background was CG, though.

Great series.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:09:31pm

Unloads both barrels on Trump, too bad he is an establishment RINO,. Obviously has to be one, because he sounds sane and intelligent…

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ipsos  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:15:45pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

I gotta say, I think the SOTU this year is going to be epic.

“My fellow Americans…

The state of the union is actually pretty fucking amazing.

THESE people (waves hand to left side of House chamber) have been bought and paid for to make you think it isn’t. And if you leave them to their own devices, they’ll make sure it really isn’t.

They’ve spent seven years trying to bring me down in every way they can. A few weeks ago, they opened their new term by trying to take health care away from 17 million of YOU. Fortunately, I’m still here to veto political bullshit like that. And everything I’m trying to do has the approval of a majority of all of you. If you don’t want to see it get fucked up, vote Democrat - (long pause, meaningful look to the GOP side) - IC! in November.

Otherwise, you’ll get exactly what you all deserve. And it’s going to take a generation or more for your kids and grandkids to undo what THESE people over here want to do to you. And at least some of you will wake up one day and wonder why you spent eight years obsessing over where I was born and why I wanted to take your guns away. And your kids and grandkids will wonder how anybody could have been that deluded.

And since there’s nothing at all that I can say that will change the minds of half of this room (more meaningful looks to the GOP side) or 27 percent of the country, I’m not going to waste anyone else’s time here.

Obama out.

(drops mic, walks out the middle aisle and just keeps going)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:16:35pm

re: #143 ausador

GOP operatives who say they’re not going to support Trump are lying to themselves. Yes, they will. If he’s the nominee they’ll support him, guaranteed.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:18:46pm

re: #143 ausador

Unloads both barrels on Trump, too bad he is an establishment RINO,. Obviously has to be one, because he sounds sane and intelligent…

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Sane Repubs are freaking out.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:20:55pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

GOP operatives who say they’re not going to support Trump are lying to themselves. Yes, they will. If he’s the nominee they’ll support him, guaranteed.

Country First

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TedStriker  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:23:00pm

re: #144 ipsos

“My fellow Americans…

The state of the union is actually pretty fucking amazing.

THESE people (waves hand to left side of House chamber) have been bought and paid for to make you think it isn’t. And if you leave them to their own devices, they’ll make sure it really isn’t.

They’ve spent seven years trying to bring me down in every way they can. A few weeks ago, they opened their new term by trying to take health care away from 17 million of YOU. Fortunately, I’m still here to veto political bullshit like that. And everything I’m trying to do has the approval of a majority of all of you. If you don’t want to see it get fucked up, vote Democrat - (long pause, meaningful look to the GOP side) - IC! in November.

Otherwise, you’ll get exactly what you all deserve. And it’s going to take a generation or more for your kids and grandkids to undo what THESE people over here want to do to you. And at least some of you will wake up one day and wonder why you spent eight years obsessing over where I was born and why I wanted to take your guns away. And your kids and grandkids will wonder how anybody could have been that deluded.

And since there’s nothing at all that I can say that will change the minds of half of this room (more meaningful looks to the GOP side) or 27 percent of the country, I’m not going to waste anyone else’s time here.

Obama out.

(drops mic, walks out the middle aisle and just keeps going)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:35:22pm
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BeachDem  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:35:46pm

Oh, and fuck Allen West.

President Barack Hussein Obama, on behalf of true Americans, I want to inform you that we will not follow your unconstitutional executive order…

This is your final year as president of the United States so let us come to an agreement: you leave us alone and we, the American people, will let you stay and finish your term.

Heed these words of counsel…

wonkette.com

What. An. Asshole.

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teleskiguy  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:36:46pm

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

My Snow Peak pack and carry fireplace showed up today, YAAASSS!

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Dude, that thing looks sweet!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:37:57pm

So, without warning today, I was canned.

This is probably a good thing. I sent an email to my supervisors a month ago, asking to speak to them in regards to my Autism.

Never heard back. Also, I was given verbal and physical abuse by supervisors.

I feel less stressed now, but a little worried on career. I will not go back to Customer Service.

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teleskiguy  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:41:32pm

re: #104 BeachDem

{{{BeachDem}}}

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:41:40pm

re: #152 The War TARDIS

Sorry to hear that, WT. Being verbally and physically abused by managers is unacceptable-be glad you are out of that.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:45:11pm

re: #154 Eric The Fruit Bat

I am.

The stress caused strain with friends.

Never should have taken that job.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:46:32pm

re: #152 The War TARDIS

Sorry, man.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:48:53pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:52:05pm

Shit goblin z-list actor Adam Baldwin has all the feels for Milo Yiannofuckthatguy.

This is Adam’s Twitter bio at present.

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:54:34pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

Shit goblin z-list actor Adam Baldwin has all the feels for Milo Yannafuckthatguy.

This is Adam’s Twitter bio at present.

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Bleagh!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:54:39pm

re: #158 teleskiguy

Shit goblin z-list actor Adam Baldwin has all the feels for Milo Yannafuckthatguy.

This is Adam’s Twitter bio at present.

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All this drama because @nero lost his blue checkmark? You’d think they’d come and taken away his cellphone, computer and favorite teddy bear.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:57:55pm

Moochers who want free stuff taking advantage of what they already appropriated…

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 9:59:21pm

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Here’s some delicious detailed historical background on the posterior orifice known as Milo Yiannopoulos, appropriately titled:

“The Art of Self-Loathing”.

A must-read.

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:00:51pm

re: #162 Eric The Fruit Bat

Here’s some delicious detailed historical background on the self-loathing flotsam known as Milo Yiannopoulos, appropriately titled:

“The Art of Self-Loathing”.

A must-read.

You couldn’t pay me enough.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:02:27pm

Um, no, not even close bro. Total BS.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:02:34pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

GOP operatives who say they’re not going to support Trump are lying to themselves. Yes, they will. If he’s the nominee they’ll support him, guaranteed.

And that’s confirmed by ol’ Rinsed Himself!

politico.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:03:56pm

re: #161 ausador

That’ll add some decades to their sentences once/if their caught. And unlike weev’s case, this is pure out-and-out fraudulent access.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:04:02pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:09:49pm

re: #161 ausador

Moochers who want free stuff taking advantage of what they already appropriated…

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Hope they didn’t get the launch codes.

//

Perhaps the FWS folks should put passwords on their office computers from now on.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:10:24pm

I knew this cartoon would get made sooner or later. :(

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:14:06pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

That was what my #162 was about.

Lemme cobble up a page referring this.

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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:21:59pm

re: #161 ausador

Moochers who want free stuff taking advantage of what they already appropriated…

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As a former federal employee with the FWS, this flat out pisses me off. Like taking it personally pisses me off. This is not a well funded government agency - we begged for every scrap of funding we could get and stretched it til it screamed praying we could fund our projects for another year because we were passionate and dedicated to the good work we were doing. These narcissistic scumlickers are shitting all over that with no fucking respect at all, not for the people, the land, the critters of the refuge and the future those people are trying to protect.

Just… grrrrrr.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:24:21pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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retired cynic  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:25:56pm

re: #172 Ace-o-aces

Aw, fake? Too good to be true.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:28:39pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:29:44pm

re: #173 retired cynic

Aw, fake? Too good to be true.

Really, did that fool you for even a second? I wasn’t even trying to hide it.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:31:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:32:04pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

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Milo is a completely amoral, hedonistic nihilist. He’ll write whatever the argument of the moment calls for. He believes in nothing beyond the paycheck he gets from the niche he’s current found with Breitbart. For instance, from that link:

“I’d describe myself as 90-95% gay. I would never have chosen to be this way. No one would choose it. You’d have to be mad. “

However he also wrote this diametrically opposite take on the issue recently when he was pretending he was going to go straight.

I’ll never forget the precise moment I chose to be gay. It was the endpoint in a process of rebellion against my white middle-class parents that climaxed with me smuggling a black drug dealer into my bedroom at 3 a.m. on a school night aged 15.

Today, thanks to society’s endless mollycoddling and celebration of “alternative” lifestyles, the joy of rebellion is drying up for me. You see, I only plumped for homosexuality to irritate my parents. But now even they are fine with it. A few years ago, my mum said, perhaps cannily, “All I want is for you to be happy.”

That came as devastating news. Because my sexuality was never about maternal acceptance, but rather the mischievous and incorrigible pursuit of social censure and the threat of being cut out of the will. Now my gayness was not only roundly applauded by wider society but even my own parents, what was the point?

So I find myself in the perplexing position of asking: what’s next? Casting my eye around modern Britain, in the last few months I’ve been on the look-out for the most marginalised, ridiculed and socially ostracised slice of the population. And I think I’ve nailed it: it’s time for me to become a straight white male.

Dude is pretty close to a pure psychopath.

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ausador  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:39:12pm

Hi there, welcome to the 21st century…

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:41:38pm

re: #178 ausador

Hi there, welcome to the 21st century…

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Usually refered to as anyways  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:42:10pm

I can smell the hatred from Australia, it makes me feel ill.

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Jay in Oregon  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:44:52pm

re: #56 CuriousLurker

I do believe I detect the presence of some sour grapes there.

Indeed. Is he going to try to pretend that he “escaped” from Twitter, after beclowning himself in efforts to get his account reinstated—including creating new accounts in violation of his ban and, oh yeah, posting stalkerish photos from near the Twitter HQ?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 10:51:09pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

And of course, being the psycopath he is, it’s a lie:

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:04:24pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

GOP operatives who say they’re not going to support Trump are lying to themselves. Yes, they will. If he’s the nominee they’ll support him, guaranteed.

So far the GOP has sucked at stopping Trump from sucking up all of the suckers and if they don’t stop sucking at it in the end they are going to be sucking up to Trump because being suck-ups to money and power is what they do best.

Boy there’s a lot of sucking going on in the Republican camp!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:10:33pm

re: #183 Odie Hugh Manatee

Yep-Politico’s resident Liberterian seems to agree.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:25:03pm

re: #182 Eric The Fruit Bat

And of course, being the psycopath he is, it’s a lie:

“I had all the characteristics of a human being—flesh, blood, skin, hair—but my depersonalization was so intense, had gone so deep, that my normal ability to feel compassion had been eradicated, the victim of a slow, purposeful erasure. I was simply imitating reality, a rough resemblance of a human being, with only a dim corner of my mind functioning”

-Patrick Bateman, American Psycho

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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:26:21pm

For something weird… I had this on the TV via YouTube:

all concert david garrett and brahm’s on tour

At about 25:53 there’s a shot of the audience and way up high on the back wall, or maybe even ceiling there’s like an alien or spiderman or something creeping along up there that’s kinda freaking me out. What the hell is that? LOL

Dunno why the video isn’t embedding. Another mystery.

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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:26:59pm

Oh, the video did embed after all. Cool.

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Tigger2  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:33:10pm

re: #186 allegro

For something weird… I had this on the TV via YouTube:

[Embedded content]

Video

At about 25:53 there’s a shot of the audience and way up high on the back wall, or maybe even ceiling there’s like an alien or spiderman or something creeping along up there that’s kinda freaking me out. What the hell is that? LOL

Dunno why the video isn’t embedding. Another mystery.

It looks like a camera on a cable line, They have them at some Nascar tracks they run up and down pit lane.

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:37:02pm

re: #177 goddamnedfrank

Hey, he can always become s furry. There’ll be a wait for broad acceptance. He would make a good ferret.

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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:37:58pm

re: #188 Tigger2

It looks like a camera on a cable line, They have them at some Nascar tracks they run up and down pit lane.

Ohhhh. It didn’t look connected to anything. I was like dayum, way too big to be a bug. LOL

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WhatEVs  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:41:25pm
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Tigger2  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:46:09pm

re: #190 allegro

Ohhhh. It didn’t look connected to anything. I was like dayum, way too big to be a bug. LOL

Here’s one that broke at a race.

<iframe src=’abcnews.go.com’ width=’640’ height=’360’ scrolling=’no’ style=’border:none;’></iframe><br/>ABC Breaking News | Latest News Videos

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allegro  Jan 8, 2016 • 11:58:35pm

re: #192 Tigger2

Here’s one that broke at a race.

<iframe src=’abcnews.go.com’ width=’640’ height=’360’ scrolling=’no’ style=’border:none;’></iframe><br/>ABC Breaking News | Latest News Videos

I’m just getting a general story page. Not seeing the camera thing.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:00:11am

are you clicking on the abcnews.go com link.

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allegro  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:03:30am

re: #194 Tigger2

you clicking on the abcnews.go.com link.

All 3 links take me to the same general page.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:04:10am

re: #195 allegro

All 3 links take me to the same general page.

I click on that one I get the video. lol

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:05:14am

Let’s try this.

abcnews.go.com

I always have trouble with ABCs stuff.

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allegro  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:09:35am

re: #197 Tigger2

Let’s try this.

abcnews.go.com

I always have trouble with ABCs stuff.

That one gives me a blank gray screen. :/

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:12:23am

Lets see if this one works.

bcove.me

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:13:51am

Cute little series of comics about Gyms and game mechanics:

imgur.com

Edit: Also, Allegro, is this the video you’re trying to link?
abcnews.go.com

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ausador  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:15:23am

re: #198 allegro

That one gives me a blank gray screen. :/

This is what he is talking about, also used at football games for aerial shots.
en.m.wikipedia.org

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:16:00am

re: #200 KiTA

Cute little series of comics about Gyms and game mechanics:

imgur.com

Edit: Also, Allegro, is this the video you’re trying to link?
abcnews.go.com

Yeah that’s it, for some reason I can hardly ever get abc stuff to work when I try to link it.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:16:56am

re: #201 ausador

This is what he is talking about, also used at football games for aerial shots.
en.m.wikipedia.org

Yep there’s the spiderman

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allegro  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:18:46am

re: #199 Tigger2

Lets see if this one works.

bcove.me

Yay! Yeah, that does look like the creeping alien in the concert hall. That said, the helmet on the driver makes him look like Predator. So I got my alien after all. :D

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:19:15am

storify.com

So the next obvious step was to see the Bundy Ya’ll Qaeda team trying to overrule or overthrow a local government. Turns out they’re trying that already, only via a fake government committee.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:20:19am

re: #205 KiTA

storify.com

So the next obvious step was to see the Bundy Ya’ll Qaeda team trying to overrule or overthrow a local government. Turns out they’re trying that already, only via a fake government committee.

Lets see what the Feds think about it.

On that one twitter feed Alex Jones was on it telling everyone that there was nothing going on. lol

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allegro  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:25:44am

re: #206 Tigger2

Lets see what the Feds think about it.

I’d prefer to sic the refuge critters on them for justice but wouldn’t want to see any of the critters hurt. Too cold for sneaky snakes and scorpions.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:33:58am

re: #205 KiTA

Could we be witnessing the start of our own Reign of Terror?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:39:35am

re: #208 Eric The Fruit Bat

Could we be witnessing the start of our own Reign of Terror?

Reign of Error more like.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:44:34am

If we actually had news organizations in this country we might find out something about it. But all we have are people calling themselves reporters but all they do is repeat rumors.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:48:15am

re: #205 KiTA

storify.com

So the next obvious step was to see the Bundy Ya’ll Qaeda team trying to overrule or overthrow a local government. Turns out they’re trying that already, only via a fake government committee.

Yep….that’s exactly what I thought their next step would be, and it looks like they’re going for it.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:51:52am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

Yep….that’s exactly what I thought their next step would be, and it looks like they’re going for it.

Isn’t this kind of what Synder did in Michigan.

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allegro  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:52:36am

Yanno, rather than FBI and police, a few wildlife biologists and pro trappers could do a real number on those guys. We’re sneaky as hell and have dastardly tools.

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:54:22am

re: #213 allegro

Unfortunately the answer to vigilantism can’t really be more vigilantism. Ultimately, if nothing else, because the rest of us all have jobs and can’t afford to go tresspass and play armed insurrection in the Oregon woods like the rednecks on the other side.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:56:47am

re: #214 KiTA

Unfortunately the answer to vigilantism can’t really be more vigilantism. Ultimately, if nothing else, because the rest of us all have jobs and can’t afford to go tresspass and play armed insurrection in the Oregon woods like the rednecks on the other side.

Oh Bull nobody but Republicans work. ///

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allegro  Jan 9, 2016 • 1:03:28am

re: #214 KiTA

Unfortunately the answer to vigilantism can’t really be more vigilantism. Ultimately, if nothing else, because the rest of us all have jobs and can’t afford to go tresspass and play armed insurrection in the Oregon woods like the rednecks on the other side.

Of course. I’m being silly. Mostly. The funny thing is that you immediately went to “arms” when guns weren’t even on my list of available tools.

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 1:06:37am

reddit.com

Next recipe I’m going to try. Been making Japanese Curry after finding a local source of S&B Golden Curry Roux in the area. (It’s at Winco in the asian food area.) A bit of peanut chicken might be a nice change of pace.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 1:06:46am

re: #216 allegro

Of course. I’m being silly. Mostly. The funny thing is that you immediately went to “arms” when guns weren’t even on my list of available tools.

I’m past my prime, I couldn’t sneak up on anyone like I used to I cough to much. hehe

But back in the day I could stalk hunt with the best of them around my area.

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allegro  Jan 9, 2016 • 1:26:15am

re: #218 Tigger2

I’m past my prime, I couldn’t sneak up on anyone like I used to I cough to much. hehe

You don’t have to be particularly quiet to sneak up on humans. You can even be stinky out in the woods and other humans wouldn’t notice. Modern humans are almost entirely visual and pathetically unaware of other sensorial cues. Easily distracted as well. Use those traits and lead your human targets where you want them, just like we use a coyote’s traits to trap them.

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ausador  Jan 9, 2016 • 1:28:12am

Looks like everybody is just out on a vacation there wandering around the site… (3:43 video at link)

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 2:22:21am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 2:26:46am

‘Morning, all. It is 55 degrees in Baja Alabama and 1 degree in Burns Co, Oregon.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 2:50:49am

These Guys are full of shit.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 2:56:57am

Step 1: post pro-Milo stuff on twitter.

Step 2: go back to LGF and participate as if nothing’s happened.

Step 3: ???

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:03:10am

Whereas the German police dropped the ball, the Finnish police did good:

Finnish police reported on Friday that women in its capital city experienced an unusually high level of sexual harassment on New Year’s Eve. After receiving tips about asylum-seekers’ plans to sexually harass women, police said they greatly increased the number of patrolling officers ahead of the New Year’s Eve celebrations.
“They had bad purposes in mind,” Helsinki deputy police chief Ilkka Koskimaki told DW, saying those criminal intentions included “sexual abuse, robberies and theft.” He said there were multiple attacks on New Year’s Eve, including three sexual assaults around the central train station. He added that 15 refugees were taken into custody.

dw.com

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:06:34am

re: #225 Nyet

DW has always been a favorite news service of mine. I really miss listening to their English language service on short wave radio late at night. So much better than most media here.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:07:11am

re: #225 Nyet

Whereas the German police dropped the ball, the Finnish police did good:

dw.com

Yeah, it looks like the Polizei - especially in Köln - dropped the ball. I chalk it up to the fact that they were basically overwhelmed by the situation going on pretty much everywhere around them. Why didn’t they call for backup? Was there any backup available?

In any event, this incident, and others that occurred in Germany as well during New Year’s Eve, is going to generate some serious backlash.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:24:01am

re: #224 Nyet

No dissent allowed.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:25:27am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:26:44am

After having all kinds of gross hatred spewed at me by Gamergate assholes tonight, I am really not amused.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:29:12am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, it looks like the Polizei - especially in Köln - dropped the ball. I chalk it up to the fact that they were basically overwhelmed by the situation going on pretty much everywhere around them. Why didn’t they call for backup? Was there any backup available?

Because taking the cultural background into account is apparently “racist” or something. The talk of “rape culture” should only be confined to the realm of Western males. And the police should be told to avoid mentions of crimes committed by refugees in order not to give the right their propaganda “meat”. Because cover-ups have always worked.

And after the hard right comes to power, we’ll make an innocent face, wring our hands and say: “Nobody could have expected this!”.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:36:41am

re: #231 Nyet

Because taking the cultural background into account is apparently “racist” or something. The talk of “rape culture” should only be confined to the realm of Western males. And the police should be told to avoid mentions of crimes committed by refugees in order not to give the right their propaganda “meat”. Because cover-ups have always worked.

And after the hard right comes to power, we’ll make an innocent face, wring our hands and say: “Nobody could have expected this!”.

Like my dad always said when it comes to politics, “It ain’t the crime that’ll get you in really deep shit - it’s the cover-up. That’s when people start howling for blood.” (He was referring to Nixon in that instance, but it’s generally applicable to any and all cover-ups)

And in this instance, it also serves to lend credence to PEGIDA and other hard-right groups; they’ve been talking endlessly about how German officialdom (LE, the media, the government) has been covering up, or at least downplaying, such matters. Now they’re all gonna be crowing about how they’ve been vindicated in their beliefs.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:44:59am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Cologne’s police force was severely criticized after officers failed to prevent dozens of women from being robbed and molested by groups of men gathered at the city’s central station. Chief of Police Wolfgang Albers was specifically accused of not informing the public about the attacks and withholding the countries of origin of the assaulters.
City mayor Henriette Reker also distanced herself from the police head, saying she was not given a complete picture of the security situation that night.
“I cannot accept the fact that as the mayor of this city, I get this information from the media, especially regarding the origin of the suspects who were investigated,” Reker said in an official statement. Her “trust in the police leadership” had been “severely shaken” following the revelations, she added.

dw.com

There’s a Russian saying: he who got burned by hot milk, blows on water. OK, understandable. But by not leading the discussion - not only humanely and politely, but also honestly and openly - the mainstream elites were basically giving it up to the right-wing populists, if not outright neo-Nazis. They let them frame the whole thing. A grave mistake.

Things seems to be changing, and I hope it’s not too late, although the damage has been done.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:48:33am

re: #230 Charles Johnson

I club on the GG nuts at one of the tech forums I hang out at. What a bunch of man-children.

I wish they would grow up and get girlfriends.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:50:11am

re: #233 Nyet

dw.com

There’s a Russian saying: he who got burned by hot milk, blows on water. OK, understandable. But by not leading the discussion - not only humanely and politely, but also honestly and openly - the mainstream elites were basically giving it up to the right-wing populists, if not outright neo-Nazis. They let them frame the whole thing. A grave mistake.

Things seems to be changing, and I hope it’s not too late, although the damage has been done.

Has anyone actually collected a statistically valid comparison of this year and other New Year’s crowd assault data, including a valid demographic breakout? I doubt there’s been enough time to investigate and nail that down. Failing that, it’s all a Rorschach.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:53:21am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Has anyone actually collected a statistically valid comparison of this year and other New Year’s crowd assault data, including a valid demographic breakout? I doubt there’s been enough time to investigate and nail that down. Failing that, it’s all a Rorschach.

Exactly the ostrich position that was usual until a few days ago.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:55:11am

re: #236 Nyet

Exactly the ostrich position that was usual until a few days ago.

Musn’t let facts intrude on the various worldviews.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 3:55:57am

re: #237 Decatur Deb

Musn’t let facts intrude on the various worldviews.

Exactly.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:02:49am

re: #238 Nyet

Exactly.

Though the world might be a nicer place when the German authorities are overcautious about labelling.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:10:06am

re: #239 Decatur Deb

Though the world might be a nicer place when the German authorities are overcautious about labelling.

Oh, it’s nice alright. Up to the point when it becomes a hindrance to crime prevention, which leads to overloading of the “spring” of social anxieties, which in turn may lead to wholesale disposal of any such niceties in the future. IOW, it shouldn’t be a self-destructive mechanism.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:12:33am

re: #240 Nyet

Oh, it’s nice alright. Up to the point when it becomes a hindrance to crime prevention, which leads to overloading of the “spring” of social anxieties, which in turn may lead to wholesale disposal of any such niceties in the future. IOW, it shouldn’t be a self-destructive mechanism.

Labelling is of very little value in crime prevention. Allocate resources, find the perps, try and punish them. As individuals.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:13:10am

re: #241 Decatur Deb

*shrug* If you say so.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:14:36am

re: #242 Nyet

*shrug* If you say so.

If the Cologne cops want to take another tack, they can call it “Aktion Emmett Till”.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:26:24am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:32:54am

re: #244 Nyet

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Pretty maths.

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BadExampleMan  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:41:31am

I just gotta ask: that guy behind him, is he having a stroke or something? Maybe Bell’s Palsy? Jeezum that’s a creepy-looking motherfucker.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:43:39am

re: #246 BadExampleMan

I just gotta ask: that guy behind him, is he having a stroke or something? Maybe Bell’s Palsy? Jeezum that’s a creepy-looking motherfucker.

I think that’s his brother that got his head ran over when he was a kid.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 4:44:03am

re: #246 BadExampleMan

I just gotta ask: that guy behind him, is he having a stroke or something? Maybe Bell’s Palsy? Jeezum that’s a creepy-looking motherfucker.

If you’re talking about the Ammon/Ryan Bundy 2-shot, a poster above said it’s the result of an auto accident. Don’t know if it was in another one of yesterday’s threads.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:13:22am

re: #246 BadExampleMan

re: #248 Decatur Deb

I thought it was a stroke too. Decatur thanks for clearing that up. Maybe he can get some rehab for his facial muscles.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:23:41am

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

I thought it was a stroke too. Decatur thanks for clearing that up. Maybe he can get some rehab for his facial muscles.

Medical care at federal prisons is often better than the state facilities.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:25:31am

re: #250 Decatur Deb

Medical care at federal prisons is often better than the state facilities.

I hope they all see some of that.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:27:39am

re: #249 PhillyPretzel

I thought it was a stroke too. Decatur thanks for clearing that up. Maybe he can get some rehab for his facial muscles.

It’s likely the nerves not working, that aren’t getting their signals from the brain to the muscles. No rehab for that. Sometimes they’ll reconnect after years.

Edited to get the signals to the muscles.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:28:28am

re: #191 WhatEVs

Y’allQaeda Caliphate.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:32:50am

Several photos of Ryan Bundy in situ show him with a construction tape measure on his belt. Is he in charge of patriot dick metrics?

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:39:18am

Dollar and a dream baby…. only the odds are one in 292 million to have a winning Powerball ticket that is already $800 million (nearly $500 million cash value) and could head towards $1 billion before the drawing tonight.

Oh, I’m sure everyone’s wondering what they’d do with the money. Why not. It’s free to dream.

But I have no illusion of winning, even as I plunked down to get a couple of tickets.

If I win? I put about $10 million into trust for myself and my family. If I could make do with my current fiscal situation, I could certainly make due with that.

The rest (which would be about $480 million after tax)? Charity. There’s so many needs out there, starting with my town. Infrastructure falling apart with no money to get things fixed. Thanks Christie for not funding the transportation trust fund. Thanks NJ for having a dysfunctional school construction program. Yeah, there’s a bridge I’d pay to get replaced. I’d help the local schools upgrade facilities.

I’d help fund the NPS Great Falls National Park build out their facilities and see their plan realized.

My alma maters would get new scholarships and endowments. A couple of charities near and dear to me would see my contributions increase.

I’d give back, because at the end of the day, you can’t take it with you, but you can leave a lasting impression on those around you.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:39:18am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

You need one of those keychain tapes for that. //

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:42:32am
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 5:44:29am

re: #257 wrenchwench

Aww. That is precious.

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:13:24am

Happy Saturday Lizards

Where’s Orly?

Ted Cruz’s Mother Was On Official List Of Canadian Citizens Eligible To Vote

talkingpointsmemo.com

Canadian elections official told TPM that in the process of compiling the list, enumerators asked people to affirm that they were Canadian citizens.

This karma stew is almost too delicious.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:15:46am
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Kent Dorfman  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:18:29am

So I learned a new word this morning, dead cat bounce.

A dead cat bounce is a small, short-lived recovery in the price of a declining security, such as a stock. Frequently, downtrends are interrupted by brief periods of recovery - or small rallies - where prices temporarily rise.

There is speculation another Black Monday is coming. What is the saying, opinions are like…

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:31:00am

re: #261 Kent Dorfman

So I learned a new word this morning, dead cat bounce.

There is speculation another Black Monday is coming. What is the saying, opinions are like…

Stock market crashes come and go, the new thing in China is that the CEOs just seem to vanish off the face of the earth when trouble rears its head.

businessinsider.com

Zhou Chengjian, the billionaire chairman of the well-known domestic fashion brand Metersbonwe, is missing.

Chengjian is the latest in a long line of executives across the country that have either been arrested or gone missing amid a government-led nationwide crackdown on corruption

Bu Chengjian is one of the latest high-profile executive to have gone missing in recent months, in the wake of China’s stock market crash. As many as 36 companies reported executives missing from January to September, according to a Bloomberg report.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:40:56am

re: #262 b.d.

You would think they would do the honorable thing and just jump off buildings.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:42:11am
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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:44:57am

re: #263 Kent Dorfman

You would think they would do the honorable thing and just jump off buildings.

I’d bet many of them are getting help in doing the honorable thing. I’m sure there is a happy medium between our lax SEC laws and the Chinese mob style enforcement?

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:45:05am

How come a corporate status symbol on a microblogging platform can cause such butthurt in allegedly independent, tough and not-caring conservatives?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:45:44am
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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:46:39am

re: #266 Nyet

How come a corporate status symbol on a microblogging platform can cause such butthurt in allegedly independent, tough and not-caring conservatives?

These are the same guys who threw a fit for days over the renaming of a mountain.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:47:49am

re: #228 Charles Johnson

No dissent allowed.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:50:44am

re: #228 Charles Johnson

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:54:11am

re: #266 Nyet

How come a corporate status symbol on a microblogging platform can cause such butthurt in allegedly independent, tough and not-caring conservatives?

Perhaps because they’re soft-handed, weak-minded grifters, who’ve never done any tough work, concerned only with their brand.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:58:25am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That timeline indicates trash collection/hauling service is continuing. Response to the revolution seems to be restrained.

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Jayleia  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:04:51am

re: #269 No Country For Old Haters

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:24:39am

Bout time for Wild Life Refuge militants to start trying to figure out which one of their group is an undercover federal agent.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:30:20am

re: #224 Nyet

Step 1: post pro-Milo stuff on twitter.

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Step 2: go back to LGF and participate as if nothing’s happened.

Step 3: ???

E gad. I didn’t know about the pro-Milo stuff since I don’t follow that one for reasons that are probably obvious to most rational people. Time to block.

What a prick. I hate chickenshit backbiting—if you have a gripe, say so and take whatever consequences might result. Do NOT go slithering around whining & trash talking behind people’s backs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:33:03am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:33:48am

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

I gotta say, I think the SOTU this year is going to be epic.

I hope the phrase “You people need to grow the fuck up.” is uttered at some point in his speech.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:44:53am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:55:45am

re: #274 BeenHereAwhile

Bout time for Wild Life Refuge militants to start trying to figure out which one of their group is an undercover federal agent.

If they’ve got garbage trucks, reporters, and pizza delivery crawling all over the place, it’s wired for sound, video, and smell-o-vision by now.

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Jayleia  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:05:28am

LOLWUT?!

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:06:59am

re: #275 CuriousLurker

E gad. I didn’t know about the pro-Milo stuff since I don’t follow that one for reasons that are probably obvious to most rational people. Time to block.

What a prick. I hate chickenshit backbiting—if you have a gripe, say so and take whatever consequences might result. Do NOT go slithering around whining & trash talking behind people’s backs.

As you can see, I don’t talk about GamerGate stuff here because every single time I bring it up, without fail, it turns into a shitstorm. It’s not worth the drama to even try to discuss it, so I don’t.

Hell, for a while there just because I happen to be a GamerGate supporter I had someone on this site stalking me, going to literally ever single comment I made and downvoting it regardless of content, constantly harassing me with nasty replies, going to the main threads just to call people to downvote and harass me in sub-pages (which worked, which was the sad thing), et cetera. Other people were going to my completely unrelated social media accounts like on Reddit and stalking my comments over there, too. It was freaking creepy and I had to step away from the site because of it.

Now I might deserve this because I’m a “prick” and follow the wrong people on Twitter, who knows. I disagree, but that’s just me.

Hell, the only reason I even know what GamerGate is is because when it started someone on this site called me “Less than a Shitstain” because I’m a Gamer. Play some Minecraft on my time off? Oh, I’m such a monster! The irrational response and the blind hatred flying at me resulted in me looking into the tag and discovering something quite different than what you guys see, apparently.

But again, I try to avoid GG talk here. It just turns into an irrational shitstorm and I genuinely do not want that.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:08:17am

re: #280 Jayleia

littlegreenfootballs.com

…Hell, the last time I tried to have a dissenting opinion about Gamergate here I was called “less than a shitstain” by people I respected…

I disagree with the namecalling, but it wasn’t because of Minecraft.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:09:34am

re: #280 Jayleia

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LOLWUT?!

He seems to have lost his mind.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:10:29am

re: #281 KiTA

Don’t try to change the topic from your associations with scumbags like Milo and Cernovich to gamergate. It’s not about gamergate. It’s about you supporting terrible people, regardless of any stupid -gate.

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:10:33am

re: #282 Nyet

littlegreenfootballs.com

I disagree with the namecalling, but it wasn’t because of Minecraft.

This was long before you and I spoke about it. October-December 2014ish.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:10:40am

re: #282 Nyet

littlegreenfootballs.com

I disagree with the namecalling, but it wasn’t because of Minecraft.

That’s him making the same claim, not a post calling him a shitstain.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:12:54am

Meanwhile, in Köln, Germany:

German police have used water cannons to disperse PEGIDA demonstrators in Cologne. The anti-immigration movement were rallying against a rash of assaults on women, blamed on migrants in the city on New Year’s Eve.

Scuffles between the police and PEGIDA supporters started after the demonstrators hurled firecrackers and beer bottles at law enforcers. When they continued to throw projectiles, police deployed two water cannons and used pepper spray to disperse the group. Supporters of the anti-immigration movement were then herded towards an area near the city’s station.

rt.com

Sorry; it’s Russia Today, and I’m really not a big fan, but I haven’t seen it anywhere else thus far.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:13:04am

I wonder if this has always been this way??? Again, WTF?!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:13:16am

re: #282 Nyet

Check the karma score on that post: -8

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:13:31am

re: #286 No Country For Old Haters

That’s him making the same claim,

That’s him making a different claim about the reasons for being called a shitstain.

not a post calling him a shitstain.

You think I can’t read?

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:14:08am

re: #287 Dr Lizardo

It’s on spiegel.de

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:14:40am

re: #291 Nyet

It’s on spiegel.de

Ah, OK. Thanks.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:14:56am

re: #286 No Country For Old Haters

Whatever happened, it sure made an impression on that guy. It was almost a year ago, and who pays attention to an internet insult anyway?

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:15:34am

re: #285 KiTA

This was long before you and I spoke about it. October-December 2014ish.

And? I cited your comment where you yourself give a different reason for the namecalling.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:22:08am

@OmanReagan Storified the Bundy attempt at usurping local government.

Some key tweets:

MOST IMPORTANT:

I am struggling with “laughing at them is what we need to do” because they are moving forward with this agenda and a no-response, IMHO, is not doing anything.

As more and more gun-slinging supporters arrive, what happens next?

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:23:16am

Even forgetting about Milo and Cernovich being hateful wingnut scumbags (thus rendering support of them by any consistent and self-respecting liberal pretty unthinkable), someone who were really serious about gg being about journalistic ethics would be on the frontlines denouncing Milo and breitbrats, whose pseudojournalism is as unethical, as it is poisonous.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:24:28am

re: #295 WhatEVs

Oof. That’s why 10K-chars-tweets can’t come soon enough.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:27:59am

re: #284 Nyet

Don’t try to change the topic from your associations with scumbags like Milo and Cernovich to gamergate. It’s not about gamergate. It’s about you supporting terrible people, regardless of any stupid -gate.

If he were to look at what GamerGate actually is…it is nothing about gaming. Not one goddamned thing.

I always thought it was unfair to go after KiTA. I retract that now.

Fuck you, dude. Maybe look at what you’re supporting. If you think it’s at all about gaming, you’re too dumb to contribute anything.

Oh, for a LGF block button.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:28:45am

re: #297 Nyet

I’m not a tweeter, so I don’t know exactly how it works, but I see people post images of text on their tweets which contain hundreds of characters. If people really wanted to go around the 140 character limit, why not just keep doing that?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:29:34am

I’ve said before that a picture is worth a thousand words, but on twitter it only costs 140 characters.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:30:43am

re: #297 Nyet

Oof. That’s why 10K-chars-tweets can’t come soon enough.

I was going to Private some of it but I think it’s important to show the whole thread to anyone who might visit. This is information that is not getting out. Our media is failing US on every level.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:33:56am

re: #301 WhatEVs

I kind of think you’re overreacting. If this “shadow government” starts doing something, it’s a different story. As it stands right now, a bunch of guys put on an amateur theater production to a crowd of 40.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:34:05am

re: #295 WhatEVs

@OmanReagan Storified the Bundy attempt at usurping local government.

Some key tweets:

[Embedded content]

I am struggling with “laughing at them is what we need to do” because they are moving forward with this agenda and a no-response, IMHO, is not doing anything.

As more and more gun-slinging supporters arrive, what happens next?

These people are wackjobs, and need psychiatric care.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:34:39am

re: #295 WhatEVs

Lure them all into one place. Then deal with them collectively.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:34:49am

Funny how the same lot who spew violent rhetoric at any mention of slavery reparations are the same people who want free stuff from the gub’ment because of their own claimed heritage.

Kinda funny in a sick in the head sort of way.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:37:30am

re: #303 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

These people are wackjobs, and need psychiatric care.

They’ve already driven out locals who are afraid. They are intimidating locals who show they don’t support them. They followed the sheriff’s wife and parents, the wife packing up and leaving. Government workers have fled the county because they’re afraid. Schools and government is shut down.

I agree they are wackjobs. But they’re winning when all the above happens and we just stand around.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:37:53am

re: #302 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I kind of think you’re overreacting. If this “shadow government” starts doing something, it’s a different story. As it stands right now, a bunch of guys put on an amateur theater production to a crowd of 40.

What I get from that series of tweets is the Bundy Boys know they can’t stay there indefinitely, but don’t want to embarrass themselves by cutting and running after they promised to stay for years. So, either deliberately or through some weird delusion of theirs, they concocted this “shadow government” to approve their departure. It’s symptomatic of schizophrenia, IMO.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:38:31am

re: #307 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Sort of like declare victory and go home.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:39:49am

re: #306 WhatEVs

They’ve already driven out locals who are afraid. They are intimidating locals who show they don’t support them. They followed the sherrif’s wife and parents, the wife packing up and leaving. Government workers have fled the county because they’re afraid. Schools and government is shut down.

I agree they are wackjobs. But they’re winning when all the above happens and we just stand around.

Well, they sure have fucked up Burns, Oregon, with this bullshit. The Law needs to figure out some way to get these yokels out of town, and fast, without risking innocent bystanders and LEOs.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:40:13am

Having read about gg from quite a lot of gg’rs themselves, at the start there were two (overlapping) factions: those who were pissed off about certain goings-on in the gaming journalism (whether justifiably or not is not material for this discussion - what matters is that they believed that it was about ethics) and those O’Reilly’esque “culture warriors” who were pissed about the so-called “SJWs” in gaming. E.g. I’ve seen one gg’r making sure on twitter that they’re not from the “anti-SJW” faction.
Now, it’s pretty unbelievable that the first faction is still “alive”, because whatever the issue might have been originally, it’s a dead horse by now. So the absolute majority of gamergate followers *right now* are indeed out for “SJW” scalps. Which has almost nothing to do with gaming, aside from it being only one battle in a “culture war” these folks are trying to fight.

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:40:26am

re: #294 Nyet

Nah, both reference the same event. I’ll look for the original post when i get off work.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:41:07am

re: #301 WhatEVs

Oh, not complaining about the length, only the disjointed nature :D

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:42:38am

re: #311 KiTA

Nah, both reference the same event. I’ll look for the original post when i get off work.

Being insulted for playing Minecraft and being insulted for offering an opinion on gamergate are two incompatible explanations for one event.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:43:32am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

Several photos of Ryan Bundy in situ show him with a construction tape measure on his belt. Is he in charge of patriot dick metrics?

Shoot. I thought the III on some of them stood for 3 inchers. And those are the big standouts. Factor in the cold and there is not a lot on that hill to measure up to.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:44:42am

re: #312 Nyet

Oh, not complaining about the length, only the disjointed nature :D

That was a selection so it is rather disjointed. 10k characters wouldn’t matter when you post tweets an hour apart.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:44:45am

re: #299 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m not a tweeter, so I don’t know exactly how it works, but I see people post images of text on their tweets which contain hundreds of characters. If people really wanted to go around the 140 character limit, why not just keep doing that?

Because it sucks.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:46:25am

‘Morning, Lizards,

A friend of mine has hit upon a brilliant concept on Facebook - he takes the most virulent anti-Obama (and anti-liberal) statements and shops them in on actual photos of the people posting them.

The results in some cases are absolutely jarring. An example, edited by me:

Family values, y’all.

If you’re on FB, you can see them on a group called The Dumbest People on the Internet. It might be a closed group, but I’m pretty sure it’s public.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:48:22am

I don’t have any idea how to embed photos in a tweet on my computer. I can do it on my phone in a minute. But to put a picture (with a ton of words in it) on my computer requires (to my knowledge) requires uploading the picture to some photo sharing service like Flickr or Photobucket.

It doesn’t matter to me because I am on my phone about 98% of the time.

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:51:51am

re: #313 Nyet

Being insulted for playing Minecraft and being insulted for offering an opinion on gamergate are two incompatible explanations for one event.

And if I’m a casual gamer who was mostly playing Minecraft when the event occurred?

You were spot on re: two factions of GG. You missed 2 others:

Trolls like baphomet that post both pro and anti gg harassment to stir the fighting
RWNJs who are filing the void left behind when the real media refused to actually cover this stuff.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:52:34am

re: #317 makeitstop

Closed. Pity.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:55:03am

re: #320 Nyet

Closed. Pity.

Ah. Too bad, there are a ton of them on that page. No word on whether he reposts them on the people’s pages, though.

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Jayleia  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:55:08am

re: #319 KiTA

And here you are, not only following, but supporting the RWNJs that have filled that void…arguably, they were, and still are the primary force behind GG

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:33am

re: #320 Nyet

Closed. Pity.

Request access. I did.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:55am

re: #319 KiTA

Trolls like baphomet that post both pro and anti gg harassment to stir the fighting
RWNJs who are filing the void left behind when the real media refused to actually cover this stuff.

The real media allegedly (sic) not doing their job is not an excuse for cozying up to RWNJs. Which is what you’re doing, simultaneously expecting not to get called out for that.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:56am

re: #295 WhatEVs

@OmanReagan Storified the Bundy attempt at usurping local government.

Some key tweets:

[Embedded content]

I am struggling with “laughing at them is what we need to do” because they are moving forward with this agenda and a no-response, IMHO, is not doing anything.

As more and more gun-slinging supporters arrive, what happens next?

The odds of shooting each other go up.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:58:25am

re: #324 Nyet

And if I’m a casual gamer who was mostly playing Minecraft when the event occurred?

Again, either you were insulted because of minecraft, or because of gamergate.

The latter is much more likely.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:58:40am

re: #281 KiTA

As you can see, I don’t talk about GamerGate stuff here because every single time I bring it up, without fail, it turns into a shitstorm. […]

Okay, your martyrdom has been noted—have a cookie.

Hell, the only reason I even know what GamerGate is is because when it started someone on this site called me “Less than a Shitstain” because I’m a Gamer.

Provide a link or it didn’t happen.

Play some Minecraft on my time off? Oh, I’m such a monster! The irrational response and the blind hatred flying at me resulted in me looking into the tag and discovering something quite different than what you guys see, apparently.

I don’t give a hairy rat’s ass about GG, but I find your obnoxious, ridiculously melodramatic rantings juvenile & tiresome, and talking shit about the people here with a bunch of knuckle-draggers on Twitter while supporting creeps like Milo—all while claiming to be a liberal and feminist—makes you a prick in my book. Or maybe you’re just a complete idiot. Either way, I want nothing further to do with you. Bye now.

*GAZE*

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:01:24am

re: #327 CuriousLurker

Okay, your martyrdom has been noted—have a cookie.

Provide a link or it didn’t happen.

I don’t give a hairy rat’s ass about GG, but I find your obnoxious, ridiculously melodramatic rantings juvenile & tiresome, and talking shit about the people here with a bunch of knuckle-draggers on Twitter while supporting creeps like Milo—all while claiming to be a liberal and feminist—makes you a prick in my book. Or maybe you’re just a complete idiot. Either way, I want nothing further to do with you. Bye now.

*GAZE*

Feminist my hairy, green, fat fucking ass.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:02:23am

re: #328 WhatEVs

Feminist my hairy, green, fat fucking ass.

TMI, TMI!!1//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:03:04am

re: #225 Nyet

Whereas the German police dropped the ball, the Finnish police did good:

dw.com

Serious apples and oranges: while Germany has taken in nearly a million refugees, Finland has taken only a few thousand.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:04:37am

re: #279 Decatur Deb

If they’ve got garbage trucks, reporters, and pizza delivery crawling all over the place, it’s wired for sound, video, and smell-o-vision by now.

Although I take these guys more seriously than this,
I couldn’t resist.

Candygram for Mongo

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:05:05am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Serious apples and oranges: while Germany has taken in nearly a million refugees, Finland has taken only a few thousand.

That’s a valid point: the German police should thus have been much more ready than the Finnish one. But we’re seeing the reverse.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:07:11am

re: #329 Nyet

TMI, TMI!!1//

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Great White Snark  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:08:31am

ooohkaaay I’ll just wait for lunch to eat. Coffee will do.
//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:09:13am

re: #332 Nyet

That’s a valid point: the German police should thus have been much more ready than the Finnish one. But we’re seeing the reverse.

I remember that German police were totally unequipped and unprepared to deal with gangs of Romanian ex-Securitate thugs coming over and robbing banks.

But once the proper directives and rules of engagement have been determined at the upper echelons, and distributed to the lower ranks, they will adapt.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:09:30am

re: #279 Decatur Deb

If they’ve got garbage trucks, reporters, and pizza delivery crawling all over the place, it’s wired for sound, video, and smell-o-vision by now.

Red Squad.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:11:53am

re: #317 makeitstop

Had to join. Brilliant.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:15:12am

sandiegouniontribune.com

9 Firefighters who made over 200K in overtime.

What a racket! These guys are making over 300K a year.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:16:09am

re: #326 Nyet

Again, either you were insulted because of minecraft, or because of gamergate.

The latter is much more likely.

Indeed. Though I’m not among them, I know there are quite a few avid gamers here at LGF. Someone claiming he was attacked, insulted & stalked simply for being a gamer (or even more ridiculous, simply for playing Minecraft) is absurd.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:16:24am

re: #337 GlutenFreeJesus

Had to join. Brilliant.

I’m tellin’ ya. My friend is one of the most tireless liberals I know on FB. He’ll battle the derp all day long. I don’t know how he does it, that shit just wears me out after a while.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:18:43am

re: #338 Stanley Sea Toujours

sandiegouniontribune.com

9 Firefighters who made over 200K in overtime.

What a racket! These guys are making over 300K a year.

Get some cheap immigrant laborers to take over his job!!!

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Great White Snark  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:21:53am

re: #339 CuriousLurker

I can’t recall a single instance of anyone catching hell just for gaming. I do recall some chatter among players of a couple in particular.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:22:54am

GG being about ethics in gaming journalism… LOL. It’s like an Al Queda spokesman claiming AQ is about peacefully getting U.S. forces out of Saudi Arabia when eeeeeeverybody knows you for something a little different.

There’s a lot of terrorist organization comparisons that could be made, actually. Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt. Want to not be associated with assholes? At least form a splinter group under a different name. Until then, you’re going to get laughed at and/or shunned.

No further debate required. It’s that simple.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:23:58am

re: #293 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Whatever happened, it sure made an impression on that guy. It was almost a year ago, and who pays attention to an internet insult anyway?

@TheMichaelRock: Many people don’t know this, but it’s possible to read something you don’t agree with on the internet and simply move on with your life.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:26:04am

re: #344 BeenHereAwhile

@TheMichaelRock: Many people don’t know this, but it’s possible to read something you don’t agree with on the internet and simply move on with your life.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:29:34am

re: #336 BeenHereAwhile

Red Squad.

Sandia National Laboratories
PO Box 5800
Albuquerque, NM 87185-1125
Abstract
The goal of this LDRD was to demonstrate the use of robotic vehicles for deploying and autonomously reconfiguring seismic and acoustic sensor arrays with high (centimeter) accuracy to obtain enhancement of our capability to locate and characterize remote targets. The capability to accurately place sensors and then retrieve and reconfigure them allows sensors to be placed in phased arrays in an initial monitoring configuration and then to be reconfigured in an array tuned to the specific frequencies and directions of the selected target. This report reviews the findings and accomplishments achieved during this three-year project. This project successfully demonstrated autonomous deployment and retrieval of a payload package with an accuracy of a few centimeters using differential global positioning system (GPS) signals. It developed an autonomous, multi-sensor, temporally aligned, radio-frequency communication and signal processing capability, and an array optimization algorithm, which was implemented on a digital signal processor (DSP). Additionally, the project converted the existing single-threaded, monolithic robotic vehicle control code into a multi-threaded, modular control architecture that enhances the reuse of control code in future projects.

Note: pdf file

(File describing the sensor array will not embed.)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:30:04am

re: #342 Great White Snark

I can’t recall a single instance of anyone catching hell just for gaming. I do recall some chatter among players of a couple in particular.

Of course you can’t because it hasn’t happened. This particular poster has a tendency to resort to verbosity & melodrama when challenged. It’s a weird sort of Gish Gallop.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:32:09am

re: #343 Pawn of the Oppressor

GG being about ethics in gaming journalism… LOL. It’s like an Al Queda spokesman claiming AQ is about peacefully getting U.S. forces out of Saudi Arabia when eeeeeeverybody knows you for something a little different.

Early on for quite a few people it was about what they saw as unethical behavior (e.g. the “death of gamers” series of articles that looked coordinated), but how long can one be sour about something like this? So naturally the fuel for gg had to be found elsewhere, and it happened to be “SJWs”, whereas “ethics in journalism” turned into a cover.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:33:34am

re: #320 Nyet

Closed. Pity.

There’s a join group button. Took about 10 secs to get an approval.

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dholmes32  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:33:56am

re: #330 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Serious apples and oranges: while Germany has taken in nearly a million refugees, Finland has taken only a few thousand.

I’d just like to note, as a woman, that it doesn’t have to be New Year’s Eve and it doesn’t have to involve refugees from Scary Middle Eastern Places to get sexually harassed. Just being in a public place can trigger a catcall, a whistle or worse. And don’t get me started on being out after dark. There are a lot of people (including a sibling of mine) who think women get what we ask for if we go out after dark, even if it’s just to make a run down to the local Stop’n’Rob.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:38:28am

re: #350 dholmes32

Sure, just as it doesn’t take being a black person to be harassed or killed by the police in the US, or being a Catholic choirboy to be molested in childhood. Which doesn’t mean that Catholic child abuse or the US cop anti-black abuse aren’t “things”.

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ausador  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:40:34am

Sounds plausible…

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dholmes32  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:42:24am

re: #351 Nyet

Sure, just as it doesn’t take being a black person to be harassed or killed by the police in the US, or being a Catholic choirboy to be molested in childhood. Which doesn’t mean that Catholic child abuse or the US cop anti-black abuse aren’t “things”.

Agreed—and I see your point.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:45:22am

re: #351 Nyet

How many instances of a something involving specific groups of people need to occur before it becomes a “thing,” in your opinion?

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:46:23am

Thing is, twitter taking away the stupid blue thingie for breaking the rules is a half-measure. If he broke the rules, why is he still on twitter?

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:48:42am

re: #354 CuriousLurker

How many instances of a something involving specific groups of people need to occur before it becomes a “thing,” in your opinion?

Enough to see that it’s a systemic problem.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:55:07am

re: #356 Nyet

Enough to see that it’s a systemic problem.

So more than once, but less than 100? That’s a pretty vague answer. I’m not trying to argue with you, but you tend to be very particular about details & logic, so I was hoping to get a more specific answer.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:59:19am

re: #348 Nyet

And by “early on” you mean like, the first three days or so. ;) And it started with what amounted to a vendetta against an ex-girlfriend, so the well was poisoned from the start. It just astounds me that people still have this Stockholm Syndrome, clinging to the “movement” as if the whole world didn’t classify GG as basically a misogynist terrorism movement by the end of the first week. The shooting threat called in to the university in Utah? Was it? That pretty much ended any legitimacy the “movement” had, and it went downhill from there.

BBOPITW.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:59:44am

Okay, looks like everyone is distracted or otherwise occupied, so I’m gonna go read a book or something. Later, lizards.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:04:37am
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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:05:56am

Nate Silver538:

[…] As far as I can tell, there are three main theories about the rise of Trump[…]

@jayrosen_nyu: New by @NateSilver538: Three theories to explain why Trump is leading in the polls. t.co

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:08:51am

re: #284 Nyet

Don’t try to change the topic from your associations with scumbags like Milo and Cernovich to gamergate. It’s not about gamergate. It’s about you supporting terrible people, regardless of any stupid -gate.

Notice that he never seems to address that.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:09:36am

re: #355 Nyet

Thing is, twitter taking away the stupid blue thingie for breaking the rules is a half-measure. If he broke the rules, why is he still on twitter?

I agree it’s a half measure, Milo should have been banned from Twitter a long time ago. I’m a gamer and have been gaming before computers were a thing. I’m an avid FPS player and I run eight Steam servers for our gaming community. GG is a movement much like taking a dump is a movement. Ethics in gaming journalism? No it’s not. There is no good side to GG, it’s just a bunch of immature misogynistic man-children who are upset because they think women are a threat to their gaming life.

Milo Yeahimadumbass is the poster boy for everything that is wrong about GG.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:09:59am
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Brian J.  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:11:19am

re: #306 WhatEVs

They’ve already driven out locals who are afraid. They are intimidating locals who show they don’t support them. They followed the sheriff’s wife and parents, the wife packing up and leaving. Government workers have fled the county because they’re afraid. Schools and government is shut down.

I agree they are wackjobs. But they’re winning when all the above happens and we just stand around.

Agreed. They all want to be Jefferson Davis and Stonewall Jackson, and need to be dealt with as we did with them. If FBI Director Comer is giving Obama contrary advice because of his obsession with Mooslim terrorists, Comer needs to go.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:11:35am

re: #357 CuriousLurker

So more than once, but less than 100? That’s a pretty vague answer. I’m not trying to argue with you, but you tend to be very particular about details & logic, so I was hoping to get a more specific answer.

That’s a vague answer to what I see as a rhetorical question. The first step towards a solution of a problem is recognizing it, rather than trying to relativize it. That migrants often come from countries where relations between men and women are vastly different (regardless of religion, I should add) is acknowledged by most, but the next logical step is often not made: this cultural background is likely to be an influence in their new home. This doesn’t mean that all, or even most migrants are like that, but one can predict that statistically it’s going to be a problem esp. with young single males if things are left on their own. The ways of dealing with this right do exist, e.g. Norway seems to understand it:

nytimes.com

When he first arrived in Europe, Abdu Osman Kelifa, a Muslim asylum seeker from the Horn of Africa, was shocked to see women in skimpy clothes drinking alcohol and kissing in public. Back home, he said, only prostitutes do that, and in locally made movies couples “only hug but never kiss.”

Confused, Mr. Kelifa volunteered to take part in a pioneering and, in some quarters, controversial program that seeks to prevent sexual and other violence by helping male immigrants from societies that are largely segregated or in which women show neither flesh nor public affection to adapt to more open European societies.

[…]

Mr. Kelifa, the African asylum seeker, said he still had a hard time accepting that a wife could accuse her husband of sexual assault. But he added that he had learned how to read previously baffling signals from women who wear short skirts, smile or simply walk alone at night without an escort.

“Men have weaknesses and when they see someone smiling it is difficult to control,” Mr. Kelifa said, explaining that in his own country, Eritrea, “if someone wants a lady he can just take her and he will not be punished,” at least not by the police.

Norway, he said, treats women differently. “They can do any job from prime minister to truck driver and have the right to relax” in bars or on the street without being bothered, he added.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:11:44am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:12:13am

re: #365 Brian J.

Agreed. They all want to be Jefferson Davis and Stonewall Jackson, and need to be dealt with as we did with them. If FBI Director Comer is giving Obama contrary advice because of his obsession with Mooslim terrorists, Comer needs to go.

So, we let their own men shoot them? I’m cool with that.
/////

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:13:48am

re: #355 Nyet

Thing is, twitter taking away the stupid blue thingie for breaking the rules is a half-measure. If he broke the rules, why is he still on twitter?

Actually, Twitter does have a rule that someone can have their verification removed if they break some other part of the TOS, and Milo was briefly suspended recently.

If he keeps going the way he is, he probably will end up permanently banned just like the Rage Furby.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:16:38am

This is the email Milo got from Twitter - it’s clearly a warning to stop doing what he’s doing. He’s not going to be able to stop, very obviously - his whole reason for being on Twitter is to spew hatred and abuse at “SJWs.”

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:17:09am

Jaws is on Syfy and it made me think: What if the fact that propane tanks don’t blow up when you shoot them means we’ll never have sharks that bite off the end of a boat? What if our universe is just too boring?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:19:51am
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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:22:09am

re: #358 Pawn of the Oppressor

And by “early on” you mean like, the first three days or so. ;) And it started with what amounted to a vendetta against an ex-girlfriend, so the well was poisoned from the start. It just astounds me that people still have this Stockholm Syndrome, clinging to the “movement” as if the whole world didn’t classify GG as basically a misogynist terrorism movement by the end of the first week. The shooting threat called in to the university in Utah? Was it? That pretty much ended any legitimacy the “movement” had, and it went downhill from there.

BBOPITW.

Thing is, with decentralized “movements” one can always do something bad in their name, and it’s not clear why someone doing bad stuff in the name of BLM, Occupy or anti-gamergate (there were anti-gg death threats against gg’s) should not discredit every single participant, but what someone did in the name of gg suddenly should. No, gg is not credible because of the core of what is it about now (a vehicle for wingnuts to spread their reactionary rot) rather than what someone has done somewhere.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:22:12am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:25:29am

re: #374 Charles Johnson

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HELP ! I’m being repressed !

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:26:30am

re: #373 Nyet

Thing is, with decentralized “movements” one can always do something bad in their name, and it’s not clear why someone doing bad stuff in the name of BLM, Occupy or anti-gamergate (there were anti-gg death threats against gg’s) should not discredit every single participant, but what someone did in the name of gg suddenly should. No, gg is not credible because of the core of what is it about now (a vehicle for wingnuts to spread their reactionary rot) rather than what someone has done somewhere.

I’ve had plenty of interactions with Gamergate people on Twitter, unfortunately, and there’s really no doubt at all that it’s a deeply reactionary right wing movement, with many members who are outright racists and white supremacists, and lots of ties to the deeply fucked up “men’s rights” movement. There may be some people calling themselves Gamergaters who don’t fit these descriptions — but not many.

The Gamergate movement is comprised of some of the worst people on the web - people like Roosh, Milo, Mike Cernovich, etc. Really despicable caveman types.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:30:25am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

This is the email Milo got from Twitter - it’s clearly a warning to stop doing what he’s doing. He’s not going to be able to stop, very obviously - his whole reason for being on Twitter is to spew hatred and abuse at “SJWs.”

So he’s like most wingnut trolls, taking first a request and then eventually a warning to follow the rules not as a sign that he needs to calm down, but as an insult that invites only further stupidity until he gets banned…at which point he screams he’s being discriminated against for his beliefs.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:31:47am

re: #377 Targetpractice

That sums it up. It’s a common right wing design pattern.

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Nyet  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:35:16am

re: #376 Charles Johnson

I’ve had plenty of interactions with Gamergate people on Twitter, unfortunately, and there’s really no doubt at all that it’s a deeply reactionary right wing movement, with many members who are outright racists and white supremacists, and lots of ties to the deeply fucked up “men’s rights” movement. There may be some people calling themselves Gamergaters who don’t fit these descriptions — but not many.

The Gamergate movement is comprised of some of the worst people on the web - people like Roosh, Milo, Mike Cernovich, etc. Really despicable caveman types.

I agree, right? That’s what I meant by gg being a vehicle for wingnuts to spread their reactionary views (step by step leading the followers towards further extremes - Roosh, Vox Day, then the “alt right”. etc.). Which is what is wrong with gg.

Ascribing terrorist threats of some gg’rs to all is, however, not different than ascribing various terrorist threats by anti-gamergaters to all of them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:36:07am

Man Milo is such a whiner.

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:36:22am

I promise I will consider the poor state of “gaming journalism” just as soon as something is done about the poor state of JOURNALISM, full stop.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:37:36am
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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:42:02am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

One GG moron tried to hit me with the stupid SJW label and I ripped into him for it. I told him to stop using a stupid acronym that some kid came up with to try and insult people, especially since many people who trip across this GG nonsense and comment on it have no idea what the damned acronym means. I’ve seen it happen and it makes me laugh every single time the child using it has to explain to the person he is attempting to insult exactly what SJW means. ProTip: If your attempt to insult someone requires further explanation to your intended victim after deploying it, you have failed. Massively. If you are going to do verbal battle with someone then use your own damned words, not some childish bullshit some kids made up.

The person was sheepish afterward and agreed that the whole SJW thing was lame…lol!

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Thanos  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:44:46am

Going wayyyyyyy back to the start of it all. littlegreenfootballs.com

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:44:55am

Dumb idea of the year, and we’re not even through January yet.

An iPhone case. SMH

NOPE
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:48:43am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

This is the email Milo got from Twitter - it’s clearly a warning to stop doing what he’s doing. He’s not going to be able to stop, very obviously - his whole reason for being on Twitter is to spew hatred and abuse at “SJWs.”

And thats why a right wing only social network won’t work - these people love to trash Libruls and Demonrats and SJWs. Its a full time job for a lot them.

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ausador  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:48:49am

So, you thought the town seal with a white guy strangling a Native American was bad?

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:50:10am

re: #385 makeitstop

Dumb idea of the year,…

And, remarkably impractical

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:50:51am

re: #387 ausador

So, you thought the town seal with a white guy strangling a Native American was bad?

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Sheesh.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:51:16am

re: #385 makeitstop

Dumb idea of the year, and we’re not even through January yet.

An iPhone case. SMH

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One word, why?

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ausador  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:52:02am

re: #385 makeitstop

Dumb idea of the year, and we’re not even through January yet.

An iPhone case. SMH

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That is incredibly stupid considering all the people who have been shot by police mistaking cell phones for guns already.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:52:43am

re: #385 makeitstop

Dumb idea of the year, and we’re not even through January yet.

An iPhone case. SMH

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Not recommended for black people, latino people or Muslims.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:52:53am

re: #391 ausador

That is incredibly stupid considering all the people who have been shot by police mistaking cell phones for guns already.

Exactly.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:53:24am

re: #387 ausador

Wow. I was totally oblivious to that. It’s outrageous.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:54:21am

re: #391 ausador

That is incredibly stupid considering all the people who have been shot by police mistaking cell phones for guns already.

But it’s only a worry if you’re a minority. If you’re white, cops seem to have a sixth sense that assures them it’s not a gun, and even if it was a gun, you’re not a danger to anyone.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:54:49am

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

Not recommended for black people, latino people or Muslims.

Fixt.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:54:51am

Is it cynical of me that the response to the outrage of murals depicting he execution of Native Americans will be to defend it as ‘heritage’ and ‘history?’

That it will be to defend against ‘political correctness?’

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:55:30am

re: #395 Targetpractice

But it’s only a worry if you’re a minority. If you’re white, cops seem to have a sixth sense that assures them it’s not a gun, and even if it was a gun, you’re not a danger to anyone.

Gah I was reading a headline today where a cop who held a gun to the head of a guy is saying if anything the victim owes him an apology because of some crap about being after a pay day. Yeah asshole, I’m sure the guy just loved that you had his life in your hands. Sorry another rant on another topic.

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WhatEVs  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:56:29am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Gah I was reading a headline today where a cop who held a gun to the head of a guy is saying if anything the victim owes him an apology because of some crap about being after a pay day. Yeah asshole, I’m sure the guy just loved that you had his life in your hands. Sorry another rant on another topic.

He got 5 years for that. Too bad that payout won’t come from that cop directly.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:56:55am

re: #397 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Is it cynical of me that the response to the outrage of murals depicting he execution of Native Americans will be to defend it as ‘heritage’ and ‘history?’

That it will be to defend against ‘political correctness?’

I think the word you’re looking for is realistic. It amazes me that they call the CSA their “heritage” when for most of the CSA’s existence the average Southerner was starving and needed clothes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:57:19am

re: #399 WhatEVs

He got 5 years for that. Too bad that payout won’t come from that cop directly.

Five years IMO is chump change but it’s better than nothing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:58:57am

But speaking of murals since Maine’s Governor LaPage is in the news. When he was first elected governor, he drew some eyebrows by bitching about a mural that commemorated the role of unions in the state. I imagine people like him who got upset about those murals probably think that mural is just fine and anyone criticizing is a “PC Nazi.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:14:16am
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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:30:18am

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s a good article. I read it the other day after following the links from theheat’s page posted earlier this week (if you haven’t read it yet, you should). I believe I got the link from the article she referenced in comment #5.

7I1iPPAqHAqpPfzhOXr5dvSXG7C/6Ei46ZdCe8L2zG0uRgRTquFLYa/in46fPUwSJRpEu4wm3fM4s1EOj2VKa+NcUMJW+uoemOAqrOpcjjHhcNe/RKnbA6fmZtc4TGBElZi8OJYpD+yQyeQul1NehPYP+F7Ol3IPxdPUqjhXm5hjMSEqvy7zkZg0oluo7Wq4ylyFdLO4CR4fH3UjjVRK47FURDcc5WlbIKBqFMmI3Q9GribFpuRIv+ZfFiK3zmPJurTEaASjhc9VwEIIs2/nfzPJs3PNnXZm4pTSq1KuM4VXxa6D14q4hSAsb0buz5rjei1ArzlBK8atncFnWOB35A==

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CuriousLurker  Jan 9, 2016 • 12:07:08pm

re: #366 Nyet

That’s a vague answer to what I see as a rhetorical question. The first step towards a solution of a problem is recognizing it, rather than trying to relativize it. That migrants often come from countries where relations between men and women are vastly different (regardless of religion, I should add) is acknowledged by most, but the next logical step is often not made: this cultural background is likely to be an influence in their new home.

Okay, that response is more specific and makes much more sense.

This doesn’t mean that all, or even most migrants are like that, but one can predict that statistically it’s going to be a problem esp. with young single males if things are left on their own. The ways of dealing with this right do exist, e.g. Norway seems to understand it:

nytimes.com

True, and as you said, this can occur with migrants regardless of religion, however how often do you see examples of non-Muslims used, be they Christian, Hindu, Yazidi, animist, or whatever? I don’t see it often—in fact, almost never. And when a non-Muslim is used as an example, how often is the religion of the attacker/victim mentioned?

Perhaps the media doesn’t do so consciously, but it gives the impression that it’s primarily a problem with Muslim migrants. There’s a bias there that annoys me.1

1. Last night I began reading a book I mentioned here recently called Muslims in the Western Imagination, so I’m probably going to be pointing out anything that strikes me as representing “Muslim monsters” with regularity as I read & learn more.

Here’s a YouTube conversation with the author about the book, if you’re interested. IIRC, I became familiar with her when that repository of scholarly articles was offering a month of free access (I think it’s UK-based, but can’t remember the name of the site—I remember you were happy to hear about the free access and said that you like the site).

Edit: It was Brill I was thinking of, but it wasn’t there that heard about her,

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 1:20:21pm

re: #391 ausador

That is incredibly stupid considering all the people who have been shot by police mistaking cell phones for guns already.

Not to mention the ammosexuals who will blow their ears off when they hear ‘their’ ringtone.


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