Oregon Militants’ Shopping List: Both Miracle Whip and Mayonnaise

Domestic terrorists want brats
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Via JJ MacNab, here’s the latest shopping list from the chowderheads who’ve “occupied” Oregon’s Malheur Wildlife Sanctuary on orders from God.

My favorite item on the list is outlined in red, but why would they want both Miracle Whip and mayonnaise? Are they going to put that Miracle Whip on their fresh veggies? Could they possibly be that crass?

And “gaming supplies?” Do they need some Playstation 4 controllers?

And both hot dogs and brats? Why in the ever-loving sovereign citizen world would you subject yourself to hot dogs if you had brats?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:02:58pm
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Great White Snark  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:03:15pm

Screw all that. Arrest, convict and send them to Maricopa county Arizona. Pink clothes, tents and bologna sandwiches.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:04:16pm

Miracle Whip is for sandwiches and Mayo is for hair conditioning.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:05:10pm
Gaming Supplies

You want to go back to the 1850s, here’s what you get.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:07:32pm

re: #3 PhillyPretzel

Miracle Whip is for sandwiches and Mayo is for hair conditioning.

I don’t see onions, green relish, peppers, tomatoes or pickle spears. What in the world do they want hot dogs for if they won’t prepare them properly.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:08:39pm

I made my observations in the last thread. Cut the power/roads/comms off. End of story.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:08:46pm
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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:08:48pm

And yet these folks are delusional that if only enough of them (1% / 3% ) stood up to the government, they could bring about a revolution. This whole episode shows just how bugnuts they are.

Dangerous bugnuts to be sure, but seriously delusional. They can’t even squat on a national wildlife refuge in the middle of nowhere without putting out a cry for help - with everything from money to cigarettes.

The only good thing from having more cigarettes on hand is its utility in jail (though they wont be able to keep it with them once they are ultimately arrested, charged, and convicted of a laundry list of crimes here). Oh, and to make it easier for every last one of the smokers to be pinpointed by satellite or UAV using infrared.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:08:51pm
And both hot dogs and brats? Why in the ever-loving sovereign citizen world would you subject yourself to hot dogs if you had brats?

Nathans.

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:09:34pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:10:34pm

You’re kidding, right?
/HAHAHAHAHA

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:11:24pm

Paraphrasing Marvin Gaye, ‘Mercia ‘mercia me, ahh things ain’t what they used to be…

Actually, they used to be worse, so bite on that, racists.

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Weet  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:11:28pm

So these guys basically brought nothing with them, and thought of this as a free hotel stay with someone else paying. They didn’t even bring shampoo and razors?

Body wash? French vanilla creamer?

My gosh, poor people can’t afford these kinds of luxuries — just WTF?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:11:44pm

re: #10 b.d.

And if I got either one as a “hostess gift.” That person would be out of my house in short order.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:12:53pm

Queen sized bed sheets?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:13:09pm

re: #9 Blind Frog Belly White

Nathans.

Just one time Hebrew National brats showed up at our Alabama Publix, then “poof”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:13:15pm

“Boxer briefs, medium, large, and extra-large”

Underwear? They want UNDERWEAR?!? Jesus, they really didn’t expect to live very long, did they?

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:13:19pm

re: #13 Weet

They may have thought the Hammonds were going to take them all in at the ranch and feed them, but that fell through.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:13:56pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

“Boxer briefs, medium, large, and extra-large”

Underwear? They want UNDERWEAR?!? Jesus, they really didn’t expect to live very long, did they?

“Fetch me my brown underpants.”

“Uhh, sir, they’re all brown…”

“…Oh. Shit.”

“Yes, sir, exactly.”

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:14:01pm

re: #15 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Queen sized bed sheets?

Drat, short-sheeted again!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:14:25pm

re: #14 PhillyPretzel

A better hostess gift would come from this place. yankeecandle.com

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:15:24pm

They prepared for all of one weekend, barely, and want what I would consider ‘luxury’ items for their little insurrection?
Badass, man.
Badass.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:15:32pm

This leaves a pleased smirk on my face.
Bundy clowns help create militia shadow government.
then get asked to leave by their creation…
Harney County Committee Of Safety Asks Occupiers To Leave

“…A community group that Ammon Bundy helped to create has asked him and his followers to abandon their armed occupation at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

The Harney County Committee of Safety was formed with the goal of limiting federal authority on county land.

Ammon Bundy helped create the group — but its board is made of local community members.

At a public meeting Friday night, the board split with its co-founder. Board member Melodi Molt shared a letter the group sent Bundy asking him to leave the county.

After thanking him for drawing attention to the county’s land use issues, they criticized the occupation at the refuge.

“We feel that any good which may come out of this event has reached its full potential,” Molt said. “We ask that you organize your people, explain that your point has been made and leave in a peaceful, honorable fashion.”

The group says it hasn’t heard back from Bundy. But earlier Friday, he suggested he would be interested in having the committee take over the cause…”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:16:06pm

re: #19 thedopefishlives

“Fetch me my brown underpants.”

“Uhh, sir, they’re all brown…”

“…Oh. Shit.”

“Yes, sir, exactly.”

“…because if I am shot, with my red cape my men won’t see the blood, and will not lose heart and will keep on fighting.”

“‘Ay! Atsa somma good idea! Luigi! Bringa my brown pants!”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:16:28pm

re: #15 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Queen sized bed sheets?

Even domestic terrorists need their sexy time.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:17:00pm

re: #18 jaunte

They may have thought the Hammonds were going to take them all in at the ranch and feed them, but that fell through.

Logistics.

Perhaps that should be added to the list.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:17:49pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Even domestic terrorists need their sexy time.

Love In Time Of Derp.

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:18:14pm

They need razors and safety razors?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:19:18pm

re: #28 b.d.

To teach the little ones how to do it. //

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:19:38pm

re: #28 b.d.

They need razors and safety razors?

Some of them have trouble with non-safety razors.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:19:42pm

re: #28 b.d.

They need razors and safety razors?

Some of them are edgier than others.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:20:26pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

They’re walking a thin line…

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:20:44pm

They think they can last years!
Most amusing.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:21:39pm

Check why Sean Penn is trending on twitter

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:22:19pm

re: #33 Not a Sparkly Vampire

They are legends in their own minds.

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Mike R  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:22:41pm

re: #28 b.d.Of course they needed safety razors could you imagine this gaggle of morons with straight razors, there would be blood on the scarecrow for sure. A little surprised that they didn’t ask for round nose scissors. The captain, kangaroo that is, would not approve of this bunch.

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ausador  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:23:02pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:23:48pm

We should just send them bootstraps.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:24:03pm

re: #37 ausador

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Gotta love those hats.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:24:47pm

re: #38 Eventual Carrion

And a Boy Scout manual.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:26:18pm

re: #38 Eventual Carrion

We should just send them bootstraps.

When a Roman legion occupied an enemy town, they built a wall and a ditch. Then they planted the next season’s rations. Send them seeds.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:26:26pm

Here is what I find so funny in a demented sort of way.

What sort of “Commander” would put his troops (people) into such a horrible position in the first place? Did he even have the area investigated politically before he took them into it? From the looks of it, no. He took them into this “battle” totally ignorant of local conditions and opinions and when rebuffed, instead of retreating, decided to withdrawal to a unsustainable position and then scream for help. Only to rebuff those who have so far tried to come and help him.

Can you say incompetent idiot?

That said. Time for the Fed to shut this guy down, now.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:27:12pm
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Timothy Watson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:27:29pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

When a Roman legion occupied an enemy town, they built a wall and a ditch. Then they planted the next season’s rations. Send them seeds.

BUY YOUR SURVIVAL SEEDS HERE!!1!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:28:07pm

re: #37 ausador

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Hey, but that’s a LEADER!! He decides what he wants to do, and he DOES IT! We need a leader like that, someone who’s not afraid to LEAD, to do things some say might not be legal, but NEED TO BE DONE!

Followed by…

Obama’s a dictator! Look at all those unconstitutional Executive Orders! Look at how he RAMS THINGS DOWN OUR THROATS!

As Scrooge said, “I’ll retire to Bedlam.”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:29:11pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

No twitter joy.

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ausador  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:29:34pm

re: #15 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Queen sized bed sheets?

At least one of them thought to bring an air mattress probably.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:29:37pm

re: #42 Bubblehead II

Here is what I find so funny in a demented sort of way.

What sort of “Commander” would put his troops (people) into such a horrible position in the first place? Did he even have the area investigated politically before he took them into it? From the looks of it, no. He took them into this “battle” totally ignorant of local conditions and opinions and when rebuffed, instead of retreating, decided to withdrawal to a unsustainable position and then scream for help. Only to rebuff those who have so far tried to come and help him.

Can you say incompetent idiot?

That said. Time for the Fed to shut this guy down, now.

The kind that thinks Red Dawn is a training film, and that Sun Tze runs that Buffet place down the street.

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:30:09pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:30:34pm

re: #48 Reality Based Steve

The kind that thinks Red Dawn is a training film, and that Sun Tze runs that Buffet place down the street.

RBS

Hey, every old Chinese guy must be a secret ninja warrior, right?

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:31:12pm

re: #42 Bubblehead II

Here is what I find so funny in a demented sort of way.

What sort of “Commander” would put his troops (people) into such a horrible position in the first place? Did he even have the area investigated politically before he took them into it? From the looks of it, no. He took them into this “battle” totally ignorant of local conditions and opinions and when rebuffed, instead of retreating, decided to withdrawal to a unsustainable position and then scream for help. Only to rebuff those who have so far tried to come and help him.

Can you say incompetent idiot?

That said. Time for the Fed to shut this guy down, now.

He probably figured he would either be dead or in jail by now.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:32:06pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:32:09pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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Is that El Chapo???
SMFH.

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:33:35pm

re: #53 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Is that El Chapo???
SMFH.

Who else could pull off wearing a shirt like that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:33:55pm

If these guys weren’t such morons, they’d have each arrived in their pickup or SUV loaded to the scuppers with food, propane tanks and stoves, bottled water, and toilet paper. Lots of food you don’t need to cook, that keeps, and even then, they’ve got Nature’s Fridge right outside.

Failing that - and NO WAY IN HELL should they have failed that - they could have sent someone to the nearest big box store any time for supplies.

This is why it’s so hard to take them seriously - they’re such utter fuckups!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:33:56pm

BTW, reading through that shitastic sheetfull of shit from Gregg Abbott.

Oh my God what a whiny little pizzle…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:34:22pm

re: #54 b.d.

Who else could pull off wearing a shirt like that?

You should see him in the shower… but look quick.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:34:34pm

ICE SCRAPPERS!!!!!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:34:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:35:57pm

re: #48 Reality Based Steve

The kind that thinks Red Dawn is a training film, and that Sun Tze runs that Buffet place down the street.

RBS

Nah. That place is run by his son, Sonny Tze.
//

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:38:34pm

re: #55 Blind Frog Belly White

If these guys weren’t such morons, they’d have each arrived in their pickup or SUV loaded to the scuppers with food, propane tanks and stoves, bottled water, and toilet paper. Lots of food you don’t need to cook, that keeps, and even then, they’ve got Nature’s Fridge right outside.

Failing that - and NO WAY IN HELL should they have failed that - they could have sent someone to the nearest big box store any time for supplies.

This is why it’s so hard to take them seriously - they’re such utter fuckups!

They are moochers and figure the RWNJ welfare system will support them. Because they are the only people that deserve welfare (and corporations of course).

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:39:38pm

re: #61 Eventual Carrion

They are moochers and figure the RWNJ welfare system will support them. Because they are the only people that deserve welfare (and corporations of course).

The shopping list is small change. Wait for the legal defense fundraisers.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:40:18pm

Lizards, Calling it night.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:41:46pm

So narcissist, so cray

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:46:52pm

re: #63 Bubblehead II

Lizards, Calling it night.

Just a wacky thought, but if you ever want to make Bubblehead bobbleheads, let me know. They’ll fly out the window like winged hotcakes. ;-)

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:50:34pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:50:45pm

If they put that ketchup on their hotdogs, NUKE EM!!!!!!!!!

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:51:39pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:52:01pm

re: #66 Tigger2

I would not be allowed into said rally since I use public transit.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:53:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:54:03pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:56:09pm

I like this guy. Writes very funny books too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:57:12pm

Anyone remember Occupy Wall Street begging for clean undies and mayonnaise?

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:57:27pm

My shocked face

He fits right in with the BENGHAZI! crowd.

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danarchy  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:58:14pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

A better hostess gift would come from this place. yankeecandle.com

hate yankee candle, just walking by the store at the mall gives me a damn headache.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:58:31pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

Anyone remember Occupy Wall Street begging for clean undies and mayonnaise?

There were reports of some epic Doritos runs.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:59:16pm

FEDERAL OVERREACH
FDA Rules Chemicals In Pizza Boxes Are No Longer Safe

“…The Food and Drug Administration announced it’s ready to ban three substances that are “used as oil and water repellents for paper and paperboard for use in contact with aqueous and fatty foods.” In other words, chemicals that help keep pizza grease from escaping the box…”

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2016 • 6:59:30pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

There were reports of some epic Doritos runs.

I’ve heard of the Dorito trots…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:01:21pm

Heck I’m Canadian! If I went to a Trump rally I’d get my ass whooped!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:02:20pm
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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:03:34pm

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

Heck I’m Canadian! If I went to a Trump rally I’d get my ass whooped!

Canadians get in free at the Cruz rallies

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:03:36pm

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

Heck I’m Canadian! If I went to a Trump rally I’d get my ass whooped!

Speaking of getting my ass whooped, tonight the low temperature is supposed to be -12 degrees F (-24.5 degrees C). Walking outside is literally like taking a punch to the face.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:06:39pm

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:08:01pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:08:29pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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It means we get to keep all the great white supremacist features, even if a majority of Americans wants to get rid of them.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:08:30pm

re: #74 b.d.

My shocked face

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He fits right in with the BENGHAZ! crowd.

I’m glad he now sucks at golf.

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calochortus  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:08:40pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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I’m guessing it means “we get to vote, but let’s not let those guys over there vote.”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:09:00pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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First heard it from my nutcase boss in 1973. Then it was essentially the obverse of “1 man, 1 vote”.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:09:01pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Wingnuts and other imbeciles often conflate “democracy” with “direct democracy.”

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:10:46pm

re: #82 thedopefishlives

Speaking of getting my ass whooped, tonight the low temperature is supposed to be -12 degrees F (-24.5 degrees C). Walking outside is literally like taking a punch to the face.

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theheat  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:10:56pm

“Tampons. That’s all I need. Tampons and Miracle Whip, and that’s all I need. Wait, and this lamp. Tampons, Miracle Whip, and this lamp, and that’s all I need.” I seem to remember Steve Martin in The Jerk had very similar needs.//

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:11:16pm

re: #87 calochortus

I’m guessing it means “we get to vote, but let’s not let those guys over there vote.”

So, it has nothing to do with Pericles? ///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:11:25pm

re: #89 withak

Wingnuts and other imbeciles often conflate “democracy” with “direct democracy.”

I always tell them, “Draw a big circle. Label it ‘Democracy’. Draw a smaller circle inside it. Label it ‘Republics’”.

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:12:00pm
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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:13:00pm

re: #82 thedopefishlives

Speaking of getting my ass whooped, tonight the low temperature is supposed to be -12 degrees F (-24.5 degrees C). Walking outside is literally like taking a punch to the face.

I have friends going to the Vikings game tomorrow. I’ll stay home and watch from my cozy couch, thanks.

(For the non-Minnesotans: The Vikings playoff game tomorrow is at TCF Bank Stadium, their temporary home until the new stadium is completed this year. It’s open-air, and the high is projected to be 0 degrees Fahrenheit.)

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:13:16pm

re: #90 Reality Based Steve

My Facebook feed has been full of “Meanwhile in Minnesota” memes where it’s making fun of how people who live in warmer climes respond to snow and cold, and there’s the Minnesotans, out grilling hamburgers in 2 feet of snow and -40 (degrees F or C) wind chill.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:14:03pm

re: #96 thedopefishlives

My Facebook feed has been full of “Meanwhile in Minnesota” memes where it’s making fun of how people who live in warmer climes respond to snow and cold, and there’s the Minnesotans, out grilling hamburgers in 2 feet of snow and -40 (degrees F or C) wind chill.

Nope. Not this gal.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:15:27pm

re: #96 thedopefishlives

My Facebook feed has been full of “Meanwhile in Minnesota” memes where it’s making fun of how people who live in warmer climes respond to snow and cold, and there’s the Minnesotans, out grilling hamburgers in 2 feet of snow and -40 (degrees F or C) wind chill.

I was in Houston after Christmas and over New Year’s. The weather was shitty, by which I mean upper 50s-low 60s and rainy. So many Texans walking around with parkas and mittens, shivering, while my family and I are enjoying the balmy weather, coatless and hatless.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:16:34pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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IN A REPUBLIC, THE NI-*CLANG* KNOW THEIR PLACE!!1!

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:17:10pm

re: #96 thedopefishlives

My Facebook feed has been full of “Meanwhile in Minnesota” memes where it’s making fun of how people who live in warmer climes respond to snow and cold, and there’s the Minnesotans, out grilling hamburgers in 2 feet of snow and -40 (degrees F or C) wind chill.

I spent a year at the Arctic Warfare Training Center at Ft. Greely Alaska. About 100 miles from Fairbanks, in what the Army determined was the coldest part of the state that you could still get to by road year round. We had 2 weeks where we didn’t see -20 for a high, and a month where we didn’t see 0 for a high.

So when they whine down here in TN, I just sort of chuckle.

RBS

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:17:30pm

Apropos of nothing, I just google image searched “most racist presidents” and 3/4 of the first ten results was Ben Stein.

google.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:18:11pm

re: #82 thedopefishlives

Speaking of getting my ass whooped, tonight the low temperature is supposed to be -12 degrees F (-24.5 degrees C). Walking outside is literally like taking a punch to the face.

I remember living near Erie for college, then 2 years in Ithaca. I used to have ways of knowing how cold it was. At 20 F my moustache would get wet with condensation, which would start freezing at 10 F. At 0 F, the hairs in my nose would freeze when I inhaled.

When you come inside after being outside in those temps, the 70 F air feels like sticking your head in a hot oven.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:18:12pm

re: #98 withak

I was in Houston after Christmas and over New Year’s. The weather was shitty, by which I mean upper 50s-low 60s and rainy. So many Texans walking around with parkas and mittens, shivering, while my family and I are enjoying the balmy weather, coatless and hatless.

Hell, earlier this evening I walked outside in my open-toe sandals to get the mail. Granted, I only have to go about 100 feet to the mailbox and back.

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calochortus  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:18:16pm

re: #92 De Kolta Chair

So, it has nothing to do with Pericles? ///

I could be wrong about this, but no. No it doesn’t.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:18:51pm

re: #91 theheat

“Tampons. That’s all I need. Tampons and Miracle Whip, and that’s all I need. Wait, and this lamp. Tampons, Miracle Whip, and this lamp, and that’s all I need.” I seem to remember Steve Martin in The Jerk had very similar needs.//

But the phone book listing is just not important anymore if even published. To get noticed now you go out and take over some federal lands in protest. The updated Jerk Patriot.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:18:57pm

re: #100 Reality Based Steve

A friend of mine told me about a winter in the Army when it was so cold, all the vehicles on the base froze up… Except for a little air-cooled VW Beetle.

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Great White Snark  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:20:06pm
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A Cranky One  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:20:55pm

re: #103 thedopefishlives

Hell, earlier this evening I walked outside in my open-toe sandals to get the mail. Granted, I only have to go about 100 feet to the mailbox and back.

Did you have the same number of toes upon your return as you did when you started?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:21:28pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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It means America should be ruled by a Roman style Patrician class of landed gentry, and that the lower classes should know their place.

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b.d.  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:22:46pm
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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:22:52pm

Well, I’m going to go and read for a while. Have a good evening, bundle up and remember to throw and extra dog on the bed if it’s cold.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:23:12pm

re: #100 Reality Based Steve

I spent a year at the Arctic Warfare Training Center at Ft. Greely Alaska. About 100 miles from Fairbanks, in what the Army determined was the coldest part of the state that you could still get to by road year round. We had 2 weeks where we didn’t see -20 for a high, and a month where we didn’t see 0 for a high.

So when they whine down here in TN, I just sort of chuckle.

RBS

Who did you piss off?

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:23:38pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember living near Erie for college, then 2 years in Ithaca. I used to have ways of knowing how cold it was. At 20 F my moustache would get wet with condensation, which would start freezing at 10 F. At 0 F, the hairs in my nose would freeze when I inhaled.

When you come inside after being outside in those temps, the 70 F air feels like sticking your head in a hot oven.

Edinboro? My cousin went there and my son wrestled there quite a bit in his pre high school days. The way the wind comes off the lake made that little area a freezer.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:23:48pm

re: #104 calochortus

I could be wrong about this, but no. No it doesn’t.

I seriously doubt I’m correct about what I wrote. //

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:24:30pm

re: #107 Great White Snark

And the smartest too.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:25:46pm

re: #108 A Cranky One

Did you have the same number of toes upon your return as you did when you started?

[Counts toes.]

Well, shit.///

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prairiefire  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:26:59pm

Feckin pussies. They remind me of the exhibitionists at Terry Schiavo’s nursing home, praying for the cameras.

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calochortus  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:27:36pm

re: #114 De Kolta Chair

I seriously doubt I’m correct about what I wrote. //

I know. :-)

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:28:36pm

They should get a lot of Patriot Hummus and Tyranny Tofu.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:29:40pm

re: #113 Eventual Carrion

Edinboro? My cousin went there and my son wrestled there quite a bit in his pre high school days. The way the wind comes off the lake made that little area a freezer.

About 20 miles farther south. Meadville, home of Allegheny College, and former home of Talon Zipper.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:32:12pm

re: #112 Decatur Deb

Who did you piss off?

Actually had requested it. (technically, had requested Alaska as a re-enlistment bonus, going to Greely was just the luck of the draw). I had a great time there. I was ops NCO at the air-field. We had a tiny flight detachment of 3 helos, our “military” vehicles were a Chevy Suburban and a Ford F-350 crew cab pickup. I knew our CO since I had worked for him at a prior unit.

About 4 flights a day in or out (on a busy day). No field duty, no night duty, pretty much the second best posting I ever had. The MFO (Multinational Force and Observers) at the southern tip of the Sinai on the Red Sea was better, but not by much)

RBS

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:34:12pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

About 20 miles farther south. Meadville, home of Allegheny College, and former home of Talon Zipper.

Ah, my middle son went to Allegheny for his freshman year. Many on my moms side live in Cochranton down the road.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:34:54pm

re: #121 Reality Based Steve

Actually had requested it. (technically, had requested Alaska as a re-enlistment bonus, going to Greely was just the luck of the draw). I had a great time there. I was ops NCO at the air-field. We had a tiny flight detachment of 3 helos, our “military” vehicles were a Chevy Suburban and a Ford F-350 crew cab pickup. I knew our CO since I had worked for him at a prior unit.

About 4 flights a day in or out (on a busy day). No field duty, no night duty, pretty much the second best posting I ever had. The MFO (Multinational Force and Observers) at the southern tip of the Sinai on the Red Sea was better, but not by much)

RBS

We used to send guys and stuff from Picatinny to Greeley for testing. They liked it because they got to keep some sweet coldweather gear. Later, our base in Italy was part of your MFO support.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:36:19pm

Go read this set of tweets.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:37:38pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

We used to send guys and stuff from Picatinny to Greeley for testing. They liked it because they got to keep some sweet coldweather gear. Later, our base in Italy was part of your MFO support.

Yep, Vincenza(?) if memory serves me after all these years.

RBS

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:38:47pm

re: #125 Reality Based Steve

Yep, Vincenza(?) if memory serves me after all these years.

RBS

Yep Vicenza, USASETAF.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:38:57pm

re: #120 Blind Frog Belly White

About 20 miles farther south. Meadville, home of Allegheny College, and former home of Talon Zipper.

Snap-on Tools as well. My brother has his undergraduate degree from Allegheny. I applied there as well, but ended up going to Pitt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:39:31pm

re: #122 Eventual Carrion

Ah, my middle son went to Allegheny for his freshman year. Many on my moms side live in Cochranton down the road.

Mrs. FBW and I are both Allegheny alums, as was my Mom and one sister.

Mrs. FBW’s family is from Corry, just up Rt. 19, then east on Rt. 6. Pillars of the local community, in fact. Owned the mill and the local building supply store.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:39:34pm
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Lancelot Link  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:39:57pm

re: #2 Great White Snark

Screw all that. Arrest, convict and send them to Maricopa county Arizona. Pink clothes, tents and bologna sandwiches.

Funny thing - Ammon Bundy and Sheriff Arpaio are friends and political allies.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:40:17pm

Wonder if the III%’s realize they will need French help to pull this off like last time? Maybe they should be asking them for money and supplies like last time?

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:41:39pm
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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:42:02pm

re: #131 Eventual Carrion

Wonder if the III%’s realize they will need French help to pull this off like last time? Maybe they should be asking them for money and supplies like last time?

I don’t think France likes our Rightwing very much.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:45:11pm

re: #127 Feline Fearless Leader

Snap-on Tools as well. My brother has his undergraduate degree from Allegheny. I applied there as well, but ended up going to Pitt.

Channellock also.

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:45:42pm

Ben Carson Cites Home Schooling As Education Solution For America

And hey…the fact it just might keep the next generation of marks nice and dumb for the professional grifting industry is a feature, not a bug.

The good news: we are about 4 weeks away from not having to hear from this man ever again.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:47:10pm

re: #124 darthstar

Hey, how’s you MIL?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:47:18pm

re: #135 bratwurst

Oy Vey. Carson is bad as Christie.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:47:56pm

re: #135 bratwurst

Ben Carson Cites Home Schooling As Education Solution For America

And hey…the fact it just might keep the next generation of marks nice and dumb for the professional grifting industry is a feature, not a bug.

Ben, Actually homeschooling is the dumbing down of our country.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:49:17pm

re: #132 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

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re: #118 calochortus

I know. :-)

Better to know one is wrong than to be a fool. Signed, an unabashed fool

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calochortus  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:50:25pm

re: #135 bratwurst

Ben Carson Cites Home Schooling As Education Solution For America

And hey…the fact it just might keep the next generation of marks nice and dumb for the professional grifting industry is a feature, not a bug.

And there’s the added advantage that it keeps mom out of the workforce because she’s home with the kids. Of course it’s a bit hard on single moms, but it’s what they deserve for being sluts, divorcing their husbands, or choosing a man who died young.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:50:36pm

re: #138 Tigger2

Ben, Actually homeschooling is the dumbing down of our country.

How else does he expect to get elected to public office?

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calochortus  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:52:18pm

It’s time to select a nice DVD and veg out for the rest of the evening.

Hasta mañana, Lizards.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:52:29pm
Plastic Silverware

True patriots demand silver plasticware. Paul Revere would be ashamed.

Give me pewter or give me Delft!

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:53:24pm

re: #142 calochortus

It’s time to select a nice DVD and veg out for the rest of the evening.

Hasta mañana, Lizards.

I’ve finally poured my glass of whiskey and am sitting watching Mrs. Fish go stab things on the Xbox.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:53:49pm

re: #143 De Kolta Chair

They have no appreciation for the good stuff. //

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:54:14pm

Auto Sales hit an all time high.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:55:50pm

re: #146 Tigger2

Way to go Mr President. And way to go Auto Industry.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:56:36pm

re: #146 Tigger2

And read the comments!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:56:41pm

re: #144 thedopefishlives

I’ve finally poured my glass of whiskey and am sitting watching Mrs. Fish go stab things on the Xbox.

I’m watching the Steelers trying to give away a game to the Bengals.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:57:07pm

re: #149 Eventual Carrion

I’m watching the Steelers trying to give away a game to the Bengals.

I was watching on ESPN Gamecast, but I turned it off because it appeared clear the Steelers had it well in hand. Was I wrong?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:57:38pm

re: #145 PhillyPretzel

They have no appreciation for the good stuff. //

Speaking of the good stuff, I’m starting to think this is all just a very inept way of opening a medicinal marijuana shop.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:57:48pm

re: #146 Tigger2

Auto Sales hit an all time high.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 7:59:37pm

re: #150 thedopefishlives

I was watching on ESPN Gamecast, but I turned it off because it appeared clear the Steelers had it well in hand. Was I wrong?

Ben hurt at end of 3rd (shoulder), Bengals just scored after a pass int call. 15 - 7 4th just getting started.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:02:26pm

re: #152 Tigger2

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:05:00pm

re: #149 Eventual Carrion

I’m watching the Steelers trying to give away a game to the Bengals.

Half the fun of watching the Steelers is watching them accidentally win their games.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:05:20pm

re: #148 retired cynic

And read the comments!

I see there were a lot of crybabies and assholes on there.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:08:40pm

From the list: “John ham radio”

Interesting. Most ham radio operators are not preppers, but a number of preppers are ham radio operators.

The radios would be inexpensive Chinese handhelds.

A lot of hams are very conservative, which means this liberal doesn’t talk politics on the radio much. It would not surprise me if some hams were in the periphery or even the core of the Bundyists.

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Tigger2  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:13:58pm

re: #148 retired cynic

And read the comments!

I liked the one that said Trump will turn the Country around, what the hell does that idiot want the Country to go back into a very bad recession.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:15:00pm

16 - 19 - 32 - 34 - 57 : 13

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:15:42pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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There’s this idea floating around Wingnuttia that the Demonrats want to give everybody direct democracy and let the illegals and felons vote, and then something something Republic will be repealed something no more private property something something. No idea where it comes from other than “Fucks Nooz”. Probably Bill O’Reilly, since my dad parroted this one a few months ago out of the blue and I’m pretty sure he’s become one of those people we hear about who sits around watching Fucks all evening.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:16:12pm

Sadly, I did not win the Powerball jackpot.

However, I did get the Powerball itself, alone, which is like $3. Which is $3 more than I’ve won on lotteries in a long, long time.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:16:51pm

re: #74 b.d.

My shocked face

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He fits right in with the BENGHAZ! crowd.

Remember that he snubbed the President several times, so he’s acting just like your typical Republican.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:19:07pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

Just wondering, but has anyone ever figured out what the hell this even means?

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Yes. Having been exposed to Birchers when I was a kid, they were firm believers that only property owners should be allowed to vote. They were big on repealing the 17th Amendment and having state legislatures elect Senators and of course they wanted the income tax repealed too…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:19:16pm

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

Thank you for getting the numbers. PA Lottery did not have it when I looked at 1110 and I could not get to Multi-State Lottery Assn. Their website was running slow.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:19:16pm

Tomorrow me and my nephew are going to see a blockbuster movie directed by a highly esteemed director. Word is it will win many Oscars.

For the life of me, I can’t remember what it’s called.

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rhuarc  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:20:43pm

re: #161 withak

It’s $4 now. :) Enough for 2 more tickets!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:22:40pm

I did not even get one number. :( That means I will have to go to work on Monday. :(

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:24:13pm

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

16 - 19 - 32 - 34 - 57 : 13

I think these are Wednesday’s numbers.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:26:37pm

re: #168 Single-handed sailor

These are Wednesday’s Numbers from PA Lottery: palottery.state.pa.us

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:26:44pm

New phrase for the day: “Banking While Black”

Atlanta police stop and put gun to head of rapper after he withdraws $200,000 from his bank

A rapper exiting an Atlanta bank, found himself in handcuffs and on the ground with guns pointed at his head after police stopped him for making a substantial withdrawal from his account, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution is reporting.

According to Sam Benson — who goes by the stage name of “Blac Youngsta” — he had just exited a Wells Fargo branch in the upscale community of Buckhead after withdrawing $200,000 in order to buy a new car.

“I come out the bank, I see the police, I’m walking to my car, I see one of them point to my bag like ‘him,’” explained the rapper. “They come bum-rushing me at the car, put me on the ground, putting guns to my head.”

“I’m like ‘What I’d do,’” Benson continued. “A lady was like I’m not supposed to have $200,000 on me. I’m like, ‘I’m a millionaire. How can I not have $200,000 on me?’”

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:29:47pm

Just kinda sorta remember the name of the movie we’re going to see tomorrow — The Relevant? Does it matter?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:31:31pm

Touchdown by the team with the striped hats!

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:31:34pm

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

16 - 19 - 32 - 34 - 57 : 13

4 - 8 - 15 - 16 - 23 - 42

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:32:03pm

re: #152 Tigger2

I’m going to be in the minority, and say that this is not a good thing.

We need to transition from a car-based society.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:32:47pm

re: #172 De Kolta Chair

Touchdown by the team with the striped hats!

Yep, gave it away finally. Will see in 2 minutes if they were just joshing.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:33:34pm

re: #173 sagehen

I am currently at the Powerball Home website and they have not posted the new numbers yet. Where are you getting yours?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:35:16pm

re: #175 Eventual Carrion

Yep, gave it away finally. Will see in 2 minutes if they were just joshing.

;-) I gotta admit that was a badass pickup by the striped hats.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:36:21pm

re: #172 De Kolta Chair

Touchdown by the team with the striped hats!

I hate the Bengals. But I hate the Steelers moar!

Hey…this game is not over. No one wants to win…

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:36:36pm

re: #177 De Kolta Chair

;-) I gotta admit that was a badass pickup by the striped hats.

It ain’t over till it’s over.

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:37:55pm

re: #176 PhillyPretzel

I am currently at the Powerball Home website and they have not posted the new numbers yet. Where are you getting yours?

From the television show “Lost”.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:39:05pm

re: #166 rhuarc

It’s $4 now. :) Enough for 2 more tickets!

I’M RICH BITCHES

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:39:21pm

From PA Lottery Website:

Powerball Numbers:

16 19 32 34 57 Powerball 13 Powerplay 03

palottery.state.pa.us

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:39:50pm

Steelers QB Jones intercepted by Bengals at Pit 26, 1:36 left
Steelers recover Bengals fumble at Pit 9, 1:23
Roethlisberger reenters game

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:40:17pm

re: #180 sagehen

Thank you, PA Lottery just up loaded on iPhone and state website.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:41:00pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart

Steelers QB Jones intercepted by Bengals at Pit 26, 1:36 left
Steelers recover Bengals fumble at Pit 9, 1:23
Roethlisberger reenters game

Hasn’t been a boring ending.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:41:45pm

re: #182 PhillyPretzel

Well, shit, I’m not rich, bitches. Apparently, I was looking at the last drawing.

There goes that $4.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:43:38pm

re: #186 withak

That’s okay. I do not win things like this.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:44:29pm

I guess I’ll have to drink myself into a stupor and play Fallout 4.

Which is okay, because that was the plan anyway.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:45:01pm

From Powerball’s Home website Multi-State Lottery Assoc:

powerball.com

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Joe Bacon  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:45:18pm

Damn! I got 3 numbers.

I guess I get a consolation prize…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:45:56pm

re: #188 withak

I guess I’ll have to drink myself into a stupor and play Fallout 4.

Which is okay, because that was the plan anyway.

I’m halfway there. Damn, this whiskey is kicking my pasty white ass.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:46:17pm

re: #190 Joe Bacon

Three numbers and a Powerball? that is usually in the $100 range.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:46:54pm

Twitter on spectator sports:

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Joe Bacon  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:51:18pm

re: #192 PhillyPretzel

Three numbers and a Powerball? that is usually in the $100 range.

Philly I got 3 numbers, didn’t get the Powerball… 😢

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:52:54pm

Since I did not win I am going to get some sleep and do my chores tomorrow. Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:54:23pm

Haha. Freaking Bengals. Those rascally Steelers done stole ‘nother one.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:54:51pm

What the heck did PacMan do?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:55:41pm

And Steely McBeam for the win!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:08pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

Haha. Freaking Bengals. Those rascally Steelers done stole ‘nother one.

They gave it away and then changed their minds.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:22pm

re: #74 b.d.

I’m so glad Lindsey Vonn kicked Tiger’s ass to the curb.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:33pm

re: #197 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Unsportsmanlike; looks like he tussled with/had contact with a Pittsburgh coach

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:39pm

Looks like the Steelers are running right off the field without shaking hands.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:56:46pm

The Steelers actually pulled a win out of the hat?

WAIT! I hear the Red Sea parting…🤑

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prairiefire  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:57:55pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

I think the ‘scary’ vibe around that guy has to be 4 foot thick.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:58:02pm

Night, gentle lizardfolk. I shall see you all on the morrow, sometime.

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withak  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:59:21pm

Let us hope the upsets continue tomorrow.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 8:59:53pm

re: #205 thedopefishlives

Night, gentle lizardfolk. I shall see you all on the morrow, sometime.

;-)

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Joe Bacon  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:02:36pm

ABC7 here in Los Angeles posted that nobody in California got the Powerball jackpot…

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:05:09pm

re: #135 bratwurst

Ben Carson Cites Home Schooling As Education Solution For America

And hey…the fact it just might keep the next generation of marks nice and dumb for the professional grifting industry is a feature, not a bug.

The good news: we are about 4 weeks away from not having to hear from this man ever again.

Great little rant there from Heather. Thanks for sharing. I particularly loved:

The Jack Kemp Foundation to develop, engage and recognize exceptional leaders who champion the American Idea is actually just a cavalcade of GOP liars spewing their disgustingly deleterious and delusional talking points…

Bad ideas, worse human beings. That’s your 2016 GOP field.

(and of course, the cavalcade took place in South by dog Carolina.)

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:06:45pm
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Kryptik  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:07:01pm

Why does it feel like the more this standoff goes on, the more it feels like authorities are just letting it happen, rather than trying to be cagey and letting them tantrum themselves out?

It seems to have crossed the line between humoring them and emboldening them at this point.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:09:16pm

Wow, the CBS dudes just tore The Bengals coach Marvin Lewis a few new holes.

With the outcry from someone like ex-Bengal Boomer Esiason on TV and the fact Lewis can’t get that team to ever win a playoff game Marv may be out of a job by Monday.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:10:23pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:14:54pm

re: #210 teleskiguy

I think it was the unsportsball penalties that did them in.

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Jenner7  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:15:56pm

That game was a hot mess. Glad the Steelers won, but they’ll lose to the Broncos.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:16:41pm

re: #209 BeachDem

Great little rant there from Heather. Thanks for sharing. I particularly loved:

The Jack Kemp Foundation to develop, engage and recognize exceptional leaders who champion the American Idea is actually just a cavalcade of GOP liars spewing their disgustingly deleterious and delusional talking points..

Bad ideas, worse human beings. That’s your 2016 GOP field.

I’m imagining Jack Kemp in the GOP debates. First off, he’d be at the kid’s table, second off, the other candidates would be calling him an ISIS-supporting liberal.

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Jenner7  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:17:57pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:23:24pm

re: #213 teleskiguy

Conversation stopper, and possible left jab to the jaw, on the tarmac —

Kim Jong-un: I loved you in Rock & Roll High School!

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:30:29pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:32:12pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:35:12pm

re: #212 ObserverArt

Wow, the CBS dudes just tore The Bengals coach Marvin Lewis a few new holes.

With the outcry from someone like ex-Bengal Boomer Esiason on TV and the fact Lewis can’t get that team to ever win a playoff game Marv may be out of a job by Monday.

All he had to do was bench #55 and they’d have won.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:44:22pm

re: #212 ObserverArt

Wow, the CBS dudes just tore The Bengals coach Marvin Lewis a few new holes.

With the outcry from someone like ex-Bengal Boomer Esiason on TV and the fact Lewis can’t get that team to ever win a playoff game Marv may be out of a job by Monday.

Gotta agree. Couldn’t keep the players focused on doing their jobs,

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:45:19pm

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

Matched the power and 1 other number. I’ll take that.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:46:14pm

Hmmm…
Posted to a dead thread, I hate time zones…

Feel free to have a go.

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:47:38pm

Amusing. The 3 percenters of Idaho (a white nationalist(?) militia) showed up at the Oregon insurrection, and were sent away:

abcnews.go.com

Apparently they were thrown out because they tried to push Ammon Bundy out?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:47:43pm

After dancing/cavorting/jumping/acting silly in the kitchen to Smokey Robinson & The Miracles, how y’all doing?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:51:34pm

In case you missed it.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:52:50pm

re: #107 Great White Snark

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so going on my twitter

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:53:20pm

re: #224 Usually refered to as anyways

Steroids, that is.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:54:22pm

geez, the Rolling Stone email digest is ALL El Chapo.

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:54:30pm

re: #213 teleskiguy

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So our primary diplomatic engagement with a dangerous nuclear power is Dennis Rodman and Sean Penn? We are so fucked.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:55:26pm

I keep thinking El Chupacabra.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:55:44pm

re: #231 sagehen

Well, If you can’t beat ‘em keep them confused.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 9:58:46pm

re: #227 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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In case you missed it.

Nothing to do with any of this, but imho Tim Robbins shoulda gotten the Oscar for Mystic River.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:03:56pm
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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:05:44pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

Perfect!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:07:13pm

So…
Why was Sean Penn hanging out with Chapo?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:07:14pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:07:48pm

He is a Hero?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:08:31pm

re: #234 De Kolta Chair

Nothing to do with any of this, but imho Tim Robbins shoulda gotten the Oscar for Mystic River.

Penn is a truly great artist. IMHO, he should stick to activist acting.

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Jenner7  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:09:24pm

David fucking Bowie. Wow.

Video

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:09:35pm

re: #235 teleskiguy

He was elected, he was popular, and initially he governed by relying on the same extensive powers his predecessors had wielded…But he rose to power legally, through votes. He was propelled into office by a population that was both polarized and exhausted, one that had lost faith in the idea of democratic capitalism and was still traumatized by the terror.

Any guesses?

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:09:44pm

What will really screw Ya’ll Qaeda over? They’re accessing federal documents and computers at the compound.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation is looking into whether militants at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge have accessed government computers during their occupation.

OPB observed militants interacting with computers in the compound that can only be accessed with employee ID badges. The armed men also appear to have gone through materials in an office building used by federal employees.

(Snip)

After Finicum realized he shouldn’t have allowed OPB to access the room, he quickly picked up lists of names and Social Security numbers by the computers, and hid government employee ID cards that were previously in plain sight.

Shortly after, one of the militant leaders, Ryan Bundy, walked into the room.

When asked about the computers, Bundy emphatically denied any of the work spaces had been touched since the occupation.

With any luck all access was cut, but it does appear they were directly attempting to break into federal systems while on site. That’s some pretty big jailtime if true.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:10:46pm

re: #241 Jenner7

David fucking Bowie. Wow.

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Video

his voice is gone

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:10:54pm

re: #243 KiTA

THere should be fingerprints all over the place.

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:11:22pm

re: #234 De Kolta Chair

Nothing to do with any of this, but imho Tim Robbins shoulda gotten the Oscar for Mystic River.

Um, he did get one, for best supporting actor—oh, are you saying it should have been for lead actor?

Dennis Lehane can sure tell a tale. I’m kinda bummed—heard they’re doing a movie on his latest trilogy, but my favorite of the three books was “The Given Day” and they’re skipping that one and doing “Live By Night” instead.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:11:58pm

re: #244 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

He’s almost 70 freaking years old.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:12:43pm

re: #242 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

He was elected, he was popular, and initially he governed by relying on the same extensive powers his predecessors had wielded…But he rose to power legally, through votes. He was propelled into office by a population that was both polarized and exhausted, one that had lost faith in the idea of democratic capitalism and was still traumatized by the terror.

Any guesses?

GODWIN!!!!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:13:03pm

Music is fantastic tho. imho

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:13:07pm

Who ya gonna call to sweep your kitchen floor at one in the morning?

Brother-In-Law Man, that’s who!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:14:19pm

re: #247 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

He’s almost 70 freaking years old.

yes, and is music is still relevant. The old and the new.

pretty kewl

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:14:51pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

I was trying to tiptoe through the tulips. I saw that description of Germany in 1932 and it really rang a bell.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:15:02pm

I saw some moose stuck in the snow today. Poor fuckers. Hope they got out.

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:15:41pm

A moose once bit my sister.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:16:25pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:16:55pm

re: #252 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I was trying to tiptoe through the tulips. I saw that description of Germany in 1932 and it really rang a bell.

speaking of 70’s TV Variety shows …

I won’t inflict it on you.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:17:08pm

re: #246 BeachDem

Um, he did get one, for best supporting actor—oh, are you saying it should have been for lead actor?

Dennis Lehane can sure tell a tale. I’m kinda bummed—heard they’re doing a movie on his latest trilogy, but my favorite of the three books was “The Given Day” and they’re skipping that one and doing “Live By Night” instead.

I forgot Robbins was awarded a Best Supporting Oscar, but he deserved to win the Big One.

I’ve never read Lehane’s books, but my wife, the mystery reader in the family, liked some of them. Some of them she didn’t like very much. In fact she was quite vocal about how much she didn’t like them.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:22:32pm

re: #255 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Oh, the joys of the 70’s variety …
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:23:09pm

and to all a cozy night.

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:26:17pm

re: #255 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Oh, the joys of the 70’s variety …
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Video

I would be willing to wager in that clip there was enough coke in Bowie’s nostrils for five mortal men…although NOTHING compared to what he had consumed prior to the Dick Cavett Show in 1974:

Youtube Video

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:27:31pm

re: #255 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Oh, the joys of the 70’s variety …
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But srsly, that made my day, thanks. Any idea if that was that right before or after Bowie recorded Diamond Dogs? Just wondering cuz that’s my favorite album by The Slender One.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:36:45pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:39:39pm

re: #260 bratwurst

I would be willing to wager in that clip there was enough coke in Bowie’s nostrils for five mortal men…although NOTHING compared to what he had consumed prior to the Dick Cavett Show in 1974:

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Wow! I remember Bowie on the Cavett Show! He kept thumping his cane…

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:40:44pm

re: #262 teleskiguy

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Next on Fox & Friends: Why don’t you get a job with Raul Castro, Spicoli?

Or have they already done that a dozen times?

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:42:38pm

re: #257 De Kolta Chair

I forgot Robbins was awarded a Best Supporting Oscar, but he deserved to win the Big One.

I’ve never read Lehane’s books, but my wife, the mystery reader in the family, liked some of them. Some of them she didn’t like very much. In fact she was quite vocal about how much she didn’t like them.

I wondered what that sound was!

I’ve liked some more than others. Loved “Mystic River” and “Gone Baby Gone” and “Shutter Island,” and, as I mentioned “The Given Day” was one of my favorites. Being a “Bahstin” guy, I’d think you’d like his books—I don’t really think of him as a mystery writer, and “The Given Day” has a really interesting historical story—the Tulsa Riots, the Boston Police Strike…READ THE DAMN BOOK!!!

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bratwurst  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:45:12pm

re: #263 Joe Bacon

Wow! I remember Bowie on the Cavett Show! He kept thumping his cane…

It is hard to imagine anyone has ever appeared on TV more under the influence of South American marching powder than he did on that show. Here is that appearance in full (not just the coked out bits as above!), including the songs 1984, Young Americans (which had not even been released at that point), and an embryonic version of Fame at the end called Footstomping:

David Bowie - The Dick Cavett Show [FULL]

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:47:35pm

Let’s all be Trump now!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:48:42pm

re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Please note: this would be slightly more verifiable a billionaire than Trump is.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:50:05pm

re: #265 BeachDem

I wondered what that sound was!

I’ve liked some more than others. Loved “Mystic River” and “Gone Baby Gone” and “Shutter Island,” and, as I mentioned “The Given Day” was one of my favorites. Being a “Bahstin” guy, I’d think you’d like his books—I don’t really think of him as a mystery writer, and “The Given Day” has a really interesting historical story—the Tulsa Riots, the Boston Police Strike…READ THE DAMN BOOK!!!

THIS is why I only read 13th Century illuminated manuscripts. ;^)

But I’m crazy about Rex Stout. Nero Wolfe is my hero.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:51:41pm

re: #269 De Kolta Chair

Oh, Archie!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:52:47pm

“I know Republicans who will support Hillary if Trump or Cruz is the nominee, no question,” Dick Thornburgh, an attorney general under President George Bush and a former Pennsylvania governor, said of Hillary Clinton. “Trump, especially, would split the party. But many will fall in line, seeing no choice.”

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:53:11pm

re: #270 retired cynic

Oh, Archie!

It doesn’t get any better than…

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:53:38pm

re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I wonder if the billboards can show that?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:54:26pm

re: #273 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I wonder if the billboards can show that?

No idea. We walked by a sign pegged out at 900 million tonight. Will have to go buy our ticket for the next one using the proceeds from this one.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:54:43pm

re: #255 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

The first time I heard U2, I thought it was Cher.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:55:07pm

re: #144 thedopefishlives

I’ve finally poured my glass of whiskey and am sitting watching Mrs. Fish go stab things on the Xbox.

You need to get her a cutting board.

Oh, wait…

Nevermind.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:55:10pm

re: #270 retired cynic

Oh, Archie!

Stout was a co-founder of the ACLU, as I’m sure you know.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:55:57pm

re: #267 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Let’s all be Trump now!

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Holy fuckballs…

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:57:15pm

re: #277 De Kolta Chair

Stout was a co-founder of the ACLU, as I’m sure you know.

And his sister, Ruth Stout, was big into gardening by mulching. Quite a pair, they were!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:58:02pm

re: #278 TedStriker

Holy fuckballs…

I’m okay with splitting it, just saying.

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KiTA  Jan 9, 2016 • 10:58:08pm

citylab.com

What an odd country.

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:00:51pm

re: #279 retired cynic

They had a similar writing style. Terse!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:01:19pm

They Lied To Me Before And I Believed Them But Now They Are Lying To Me Again And I Believe Them!

Dave Conger, 60, a salesman who showed up at a Cruz campaign stop last week with a Cruz pin on his chest, said he had worked to elect both President George W. Bush and his father, but “was told a lot of things and nothing ever happened.”

He added, “This time I’m actually hearing somebody who’s telling me the truth; they’re actually going to go in and do something they say they’re going to do.”

mobile.nytimes.com

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:01:21pm

re: #279 retired cynic

And his sister, Ruth Stout, was big into gardening by mulching. Quite a pair, they were!

Cheers!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:04:37pm

re: #281 KiTA

citylab.com

What an odd country.

We Yanks love that wacky country, though for some reason we keep making terrible remakes of their horror films.

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electrotek  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:16:02pm
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electrotek  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:17:01pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:17:57pm

Later gators.

Damn, Tokyo for lunch again?
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:20:20pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:20:57pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:34:42pm
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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:35:07pm

re: #251 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

yes, and is music is still relevant. The old and the new.

pretty kewl

I still like the Berlin Trilogy best but damned if this album isn’t up to that standard.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:44:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:45:39pm

Politics came up again this morning at the restaurant my Dad and I frequent on Saturdays, and one of the waitstaff who knows us well and likes to talk with us volunteered that Trump has absolutely woken up the Mexican American community in a way that will probably be disastrous for the GOP.

One of the reasons I like this restaurant so much is because the owner hires so many Mexicans as waitstaff. Which, if you’ve bothered to look around not everyone does, despite the fact that Mexicans make up the majority of the kitchen staff pretty much everywhere. So I like going to places like this that acknowledge them and give them equal opportunity to front of the house jobs. It’s kind of a small thing I guess but where other people are hyper critical about other things when they go out I’m especially sensitive to this because a long time ago I used to work in restaurants in Seattle and saw this unjustifiable divide first hand.

Anyway, back to the point. I’d remembered Thanos’ page about Cruz and Trump and the history lessons of the Prop 187 in California and asked our friend at the restaurant about it, if he’d been here in California when all that shit went down. Without missing a beat he responded immediately yes, cited Pete Wilson and all the shit from that awful campaign. It was like he was at a doctoral defense for a dissertation he’d written on the campaign.

Then he told us about his aunt who is a devout Jehovah’s Witness, and who as such has never voted. For the first time in her life she’s registered to vote and plans to vote for Hillary and whoever the Democratic nominee is in the general election. He had asked her about this and why she was going against her religious reasons for abstaining from voting now and she said something to the effect of “I have things and people I need to take care of.”

Woke.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2016 • 11:54:29pm

re: #294 goddamnedfrank

Then he told us about his aunt who is a devout Jehovah’s Witness, and who as such has never voted. For the first time in her life she’s registered to vote and plans to vote for Hillary and whoever the Democratic nominee is in the general election. He had asked her about this and why she was going against her religious reasons for abstaining from voting now and she said something to the effect of “I have things and people I need to take care of.”

Woke.

From her to God’s ear, may there be enough people who understand that.

Amen.

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nvrbl  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:01:24am

So they came prepared to stay for the long haul, they just did not bring any clothes, food or toiletries. I guess the government was supposed to supply those things for them . Bad government, bad, bad government

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:33:50am

The Bundy Boys are not only ill prepared, but pretty spoiled for a bunch of hardy rancher men. It seems they want all the comforts of home in their occupied government installation. Look over that wish list and count how many items are “well, it would be nice to have” things, rather than necessary for survival for a planned occupation of years. It’s impossible to take these guys seriously when their wish list looks like it was drawn up by a bunch of 10-year-olds building a fort in the backyard.

Meanwhile, using federal ID badges to access federal computers in a federal installation surely carries some suitable federal criminal penalties. Of all the lame-brained things they’ve done so far, that’s probably the one clear violation that will get them in trouble.

We should rename this bunch F-Troop, though I think the characters in that old TV show were far more clever than these clowns.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:35:36am
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:45:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:59:37am

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

I read the DM story; there was a good one in the comments section.

Penn may want to hire someone to start his car.

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:03:17am

re: #298 goddamnedfrank

Meh. It’s what I expect from that shitbird. He’s causes almost as much havoc for the left every time he opens his ignorant mouth as when Nugent does for the right. Same level of stupid.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:15:02am

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:16:22am

re: #301 William Lewis

Meh. It’s what I expect from that shitbird. He’s causes almost as much havoc for the left every time he opens his ignorant mouth as when Nugent does for the right. Same level of stupid.

Not sure they’re equivalent in stupidity, but Penn sure does have some enormous ideological blind spots. He did a lot of good work in Haiti after the earthquake, enough that I was willing to kind of look past his his rather embarrassing Hugo Chavez love affair. I don’t feel sorry for him here at all though, he willingly became a tool and tools get used.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:21:24am

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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No regrets here

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:44:22am

re: #303 goddamnedfrank

Good point on Haiti, I had forgotten about it.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 2:49:40am

re: #231 sagehen

So our primary diplomatic engagement with a dangerous nuclear power is Dennis Rodman and Sean Penn? We are so fucked.

Given that Penn has yet to visit North Korea, it’s Rodman and Carter. Still fucked ;)

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 2:56:13am

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:10:22am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:13:42am

re: #301 William Lewis

Meh. It’s what I expect from that shitbird. He’s causes almost as much havoc for the left every time he opens his ignorant mouth as when Nugent does for the right. Same level of stupid.

There’s also the fact that he regularly beat the shit out of Madonna when they were married and sexually assaulted her at least once.
thedailybeast.com

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:28:17am
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Shimshon  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:57:10am

The most important ingredient is a heavy dose of government subsidies. Those kids are on a government disability, unemployment, or if they have a business such as ranching and farming the large amount of government handouts guaranteeing them a profit. One of the Bundy’s went out on his own and needed half a million government subsidized loan. These people are moochers hiding this fact in their anti-government rhetoric to appear intelligent and self reliant. They are a farce and the media needs to discredit them with this.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:40:32am

Another Appalachia

When President Lyndon Johnson designated Appalachia as the battleground for the War on Poverty, black and white images of destitute families and broken-down barns came to define the region. Some 50 years later, those stereotypes remain—and Roger May is working to change that. His project, Looking at Appalachia, crowdsources images from photographers (professional or amateur) inspired by the mountainous stretch of land between New York and Mississippi. Eventually, they hope to start incorporating writing, audio and video to the project. “We’re hoping to offer a more balanced and nuanced look at an incredibly complex and diverse region,” May said.

Well… ok, I get that we urban elites can be rather snobbish when it comes to our hillbilly cousins (and it turns out I have very many of those).

But images like this one in the photo essay aren’t helping their cause, I think.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:43:57am

The latest popularity poll from New Hampshire shows Trump still crushing all his competition, yuuuuuuuuuugely:

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:46:49am

That’s an interesting poll in NH. Look at the difference between women and men for Trump - the former really groking the Donald, apparently.

Also, it’s the only poll in which Kasich can claim to be in 2nd place (among men, that is.)

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:58:45am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:03:13am

re: #312 freetoken

Uh, yeah. Happens all the time in Appalachia. //

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:08:42am

re: #136 Stanley Sea Toujours

Hey, how’s you MIL?

She’s doing okay. Still doesn’t understand what happened or why. It’s going to be a long road for us I suspect.

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Alephnaught  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:05:56am

re: #241 Jenner7

David fucking Bowie. Wow.

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Blimey, reminds me of Acoustic Ladyland when they decide to rock out.

Acoustic Ladyland - Om Konz

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:30:16am

Double super secret agent Sean Penn comes through for America once again.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:41:44am

re: #320 b.d.

Double super secret agent Sean Penn comes through for America once again.

Makes you think about how badly Dennis Rodman failed in preventing North Korea’s nuclear weapons development.
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withak  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:41:56am

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:46:05am

re: #321 FormerDirtDart

Makes you think about how badly Dennis Rodman failed in preventing North Korea’s nuclear weapons development.
//

Heh.

Rodman was really just over there doing background for that Rogan/Franco movie.

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Snarknado!  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:01:37am

re: #296 nvrbl

Greetings, hatchling! Speaking of snacks, what did you bring us?

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:05:04am

Affluenza kid and now Sean Penn, Mexico might just pay for that wall after all.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:06:52am

re: #325 b.d.

Affluenza kid and now Sean Penn, Mexico might just pay for that wall after all.

Hell they would pay for it just to keep Trump out of their country.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:12:02am

re: #326 Tigger2

Hell they would pay for it just to keep Trump out of their country.

If Trump keeps opening his mouth the whole world will come together to build a wall around America to keep Trump contained.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:13:48am

re: #327 Tigger2

It is a pity that Americans cannot build a wall around that Trump person.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:16:42am

re: #328 PhillyPretzel

It is a pity that Americans cannot build a wall around that Trump person.

That sure wouldn’t add as much to the national debt.

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:17:10am

re: #328 PhillyPretzel

It is a pity that Americans cannot build a wall around that Trump person.

It would be a much smaller wall than the border wall so we can spend extra money making it really nice.

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:19:36am

Oh boy

Bloomberg’s aides declined to discuss the poll’s finding with CNN or The New York Times.

I guess we now know the results of that poll.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:23:05am

It’s morning and I still have iDoctor trying to sell itself on my computer.

*grrr*

It’s nearly f***ing cold in my part of the world.

I’m no longer in Paradise.

you?

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:23:42am

re: #331 b.d.

Oh boy

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I guess we now know the results of that poll.

I have no trust in someone that changes parties at the drop of a hat. First a Dem that switched to a Republican to benefit himself and now leaves the Republicans to go Independent to try and benefit himself.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:24:53am

tech question.

I got an external portable harddrive for my pictures (as my start-up disk is full and I can’t do anything in photoshop because of it).

Now, should I partition it for Time Machine, or trust the Cloud backup system?

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:26:56am

re: #333 Tigger2

I have no trust in someone that changes parties at the drop of a hat.

You don’t trust an arrogant, fascist New York billionaire who was once a democrat turned republican?

Nevermind, let’s get back to talking about Bloomberg.

//

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:27:23am

re: #328 PhillyPretzel

It is a pity that Americans cannot build a wall around that Trump person.

The Brits seem to be working on a wall to keep Trump out by having Parliament ban his entry. So, it is not too far out of line to say some people are considering ways to wall out Trump. Even if it doesn’t go through, it sure sends a message to the arrogant ass. And of course, we can all guess how he will react. He’s already threatened to pull out any investment.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:28:54am

re: #334 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Time Machine is a good way to backup your drives.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:30:02am

re: #332 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It’s morning and I still have iDoctor trying to sell itself on my computer.

*grrr*

It’s nearly f***ing cold in my part of the world.

I’m no longer in Paradise.

you?

We are seeing our first real snow accumulation here in Columbus. We could get an inch, maybe a tad bit more. It’s windy as all get out, so I guess the temps are heading down too. Looks like some of that cold from the upper Midwest is gonna hit us for the first of the week. Then it looks to being mild again.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:31:43am

Once again Doonesbury nails it.

Doonesbury

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:34:22am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:34:45am

yup

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:35:24am

re: #341 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Yes she can.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:39:34am

New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for unlicensed school

So, is this a felony —would it disqualify him from office?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:42:01am

re: #343 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I hope so, but that Trump person would buy an attorney who will keep it in the courts for many years and muddy the waters so badly that it might be thrown out.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:45:12am

re: #341 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

yup

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Some of the comments are really funny.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:46:06am

with Trump:

Eliot Ness could disqualify him from office.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:46:49am

re: #345 Tigger2

Some of the comments are really funny.

:)

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:47:25am

re: #343 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

New York judge finds Donald Trump liable for unlicensed school


So, is this a felony —would it disqualify him from office?

Civil suit, not disqualifying

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:48:00am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:50:37am

get a room!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:53:59am

re: #348 FormerDirtDart

Civil suit, not disqualifying

Yet, blatant violation of the law.

I’ll bet it’s not the only instance.

Like so many with money, he thinks he is above the law.

Well, there is always Leona Hemsley.

affluenza?

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:05:12am

re: #341 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

yup

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Which is why the GOP is desperate for the DOJ to bring criminal charges against her.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:05:29am

White Supremacist are making robo calls in Iowa in support of Trump. you can listen to it here.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:10:32am

re: #351 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Yet, blatant violation of the law.

I’ll bet it’s not the only instance.

Like so many with money, he thinks he is above the law.

Image: Well, there is always Leona Hemsley.affluenza?

Worse. He thinks he is above everyone. Just listen to him…that he can tell you!

(By the way, I’m so glad that after he utters one of his many outrageous claims The Donald can assure me with one of his “that I can tell you” TRUMP® stamps of self-approval.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:14:11am
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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:16:31am

re: #333 Tigger2

I have no trust in someone that changes parties at the drop of a hat. First a Dem that switched to a Republican to benefit himself and now leaves the Republicans to go Independent to try and benefit himself.

Free Market Politics.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:17:17am

have we yet seen Trump’s 1040?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:18:15am

re: #341 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

yup

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Yes, she would. Cruz and Trump aren’t going to bring people into the Republican Party. They will OTOH bring a lot of people happily into Hillary’s camp just by a simple compare and contrast. One acts like how a leader should and the other two are attention junkies who constantly try to out wingnut the other.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:18:55am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think the wind chill is like negative 20 up there. I don’t care how nice they are in Minnesota. I could never live that.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:20:08am

Groan.

I’m removing some plaster to put in an electric box and switch and have Meet The Todd on. Chuck just said:

“Does these poll numbers concerns you?”

He was talking to a panel member about polls showing Bernie is within three points in Iowa.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:21:44am

re: #315 Dr Lizardo

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Wheat-based fried tribble rinds?

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:24:20am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

I think the wind chill is like negative 20 up there. I don’t care how nice they are in Minnesota. I could never live that.

Heck, the windchill is -15 here, and I’m hundreds of miles south of Minnesota. I’m staying in!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:24:20am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

I think the wind chill is like negative 20 up there. I don’t care how nice they are in Minnesota. I could never live that.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:25:21am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:25:41am

re: #361 Feline Fearless Leader

Wheat-based fried tribble rinds?

rye!

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:25:57am

re: #341 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

yup

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Crush?

More like EX-TER-MIN-ATE!

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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:26:29am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

I think the wind chill is like negative 20 up there. I don’t care how nice they are in Minnesota. I could never live that.

Is there a rule about how to call the play if the football shatters when caught?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:27:02am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Holy fuck. I think the coldest temps I’ve been was 0. I can’t imagine being in a negative 28 wind chill.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:27:22am

re: #366 Joe Bacon

Crush?

More like EX-TER-MIN-ATE!

That would only be after Hillary gets pissed about all the sexist commentary and opts to put on a Dalek suit.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:29:33am

Holy Crap!

Just looked at the California Lottery Powerball page and saw that 6 people in California matched 5 numbers. They didn’t match the Powerball but each of them got $779, 264!

When I got out of the gym this morning there were already lines forming outside of Lotto Retailers…

I matched 3 without the Powerball and got a consolation prize of $7…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:29:35am

dailynorseman.com
This one will be up there for sure.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:30:07am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Holy fuck. I think the coldest temps I’ve been was 0. I can’t imagine being in a negative 28 wind chill.

I have drove a payloader all night up and down a back ally where I used to work in -47 wind chill weather. My beard would freeze to my ski mask.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:30:11am

I have a dream. In the first two Republican contests a complete surprise candidate, like Jebby wins in Iowa and Kasich in Hew Hampshire and the media suffers a massive nervous breakdown due to their poll numbers being so out of place.

Yes, open up the carnage…let’s get it all out of our systems!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:30:24am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Holy fuck. I think the coldest temps I’ve been was 0. I can’t imagine being in a negative 28 wind chill.

Heh. Coldest weather I was ever outside in was during high school. Our x-country ski team had practice the one day when it was -35F outside with a wind chill of -70F.

If you kept moving it wasn’t too bad once you got on the trail in the woods that cut down the wind. Crossing the stretch between the woods and the school was an experience I remember.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:30:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:31:24am

re: #374 Feline Fearless Leader

Heh. Coldest weather I was ever outside in was during high school. Our x-country ski team had practice the one day when it was -35F outside with a wind chill of -70F.

If you kept moving it wasn’t too bad once you got on the trail in the woods that cut down the wind. Crossing the stretch between the woods and the school was an experience I remember.

Oh man I can’t even imagine it. I admit, I’m a wimp when it comes to the cold though.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:32:19am

re: #373 ObserverArt

I have a dream. In the first two Republican contests a complete surprise candidate, like Jebby wins in Iowa and Kasich in Hew Hampshire and the media suffers a massive nervous breakdown due to their poll numbers being so out of place.

Yes, open up the carnage…let’s get it all out of our systems!

Pollsters keep calling me and I keep lying to them that I’m all in for Trump. Damn, it’s gonna feel so good when I go to the polls and vote for Bernie!

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:34:55am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Holy fuck. I think the coldest temps I’ve been was 0. I can’t imagine being in a negative 28 wind chill.

About 35 years ago, we had to sew up a wound on a horse when the wind chill was -45. It took all day, because we could only manage about 1/4 inch at a time before we froze solid and had to go back inside and thaw out. We had to thaw that 1/4 inch out with hot packs before we could sew it up. I didn’t like being cold before that, and AFTER that, I just can’t STAND it!

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:35:16am
Last week Trump announced he had filed the details of his personal finances, as all presidential candidates must, and was worth “in excess of TEN BILLION DOLLARS” (his emphasis). On Wednesday, his financial disclosure form was released by the Federal Election Commission, and it backs up his bluster. It also tells the complicated—and entertaining—story of Trump’s financial life.

Trump’s net worth does appear to be in the billions, though he owes hundreds of millions of dollars to creditors. The total amount of his liabilities is not provided in this disclosure. Government regulations do not not require him to specify the actual amount of any liability over $50 million, but he does list four liabilities in excess of that sum. The minimum amount for his total debt is $270 million, but he could owe far more than that. A Trump spokeswoman did not immediately reply to a query asking if Trump would reveal the full extent of his debt.

Trump is good at the 3rd one.

Like the same government he accuses (and the whole GOP) of holding too much debt

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:35:49am

When one puts their left foot a bit too far forward..

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:35:59am

Well, Ohio never gets as cold as say Minnesota but we have seen -15 to -20 a few times with the wind chills that come with it. I remember a playoff game between the Bengals and Chargers (‘81?) that was pretty damn cold. I thought it was in the negatives, but maybe that was just wind chill.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:36:37am

re: #2 Great White Snark

Screw all that. Arrest, convict and send them to Maricopa county Arizona. Pink clothes, tents and bologna sandwiches.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:37:51am

re: #380 Great White Snark

When one puts their left foot a bit too far forward..

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Man Penn, talented actor but idiot in so many ways off the camera.

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danarchy  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:37:56am

re: #378 retired cynic

About 35 years ago, we had to sew up a wound on a horse when the wind chill was -45. It took all day, because we could only manage about 1/4 inch at a time before we froze solid and had to go back inside and thaw out. We had to thaw that 1/4 inch out with hot packs before we could sew it up. I didn’t like being cold before that, and AFTER that, I just can’t STAND it!

Imagine how the horse felt!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:38:25am

re: #381 ObserverArt

Well, Ohio never gets as cold as say Minnesota but we have seen -15 to -20 a few times with the wind chills that come with it. I remember a playoff game between the Bengals and Chargers (‘81?) that was pretty damn cold. I thought it was in the negatives, but maybe that was just wind chill.

It was Bengals vs Charges playoff game in Cincinnati in 1982. I remember it well: temp was -9F and windchill was -37F

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:38:37am

re: #384 danarchy

I do! She healed with just a tiny scar!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:38:45am

re: #381 ObserverArt

Well, Ohio never gets as cold as say Minnesota but we have seen -15 to -20 a few times with the wind chills that come with it. I remember a playoff game between the Bengals and Chargers (‘81?) that was pretty damn cold. I thought it was in the negatives, but maybe that was just wind chill.

That’s the coldest NFL game on record per wind chill. They called it the Freezer Bowl. -59 with the Wind Chill. I didn’t realize Cincy could get that cold.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:38:53am
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withak  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:39:06am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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noooooooooo

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:39:15am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

Oh man I can’t even imagine it. I admit, I’m a wimp when it comes to the cold though.

Living in extreme northern New York in that time you basically had three options in the winter:
1. Dress for it and go out and do things (my family)*
2. Go to Florida
3. Lay in supplies and hole up in the house.

If you liked clear and cold (20s) weather it was a nice place. Not as much “northeast gray” like Philly is today.

* - My family all skied. Many people in that area played ice hockey. And we usually kept any snow that fell in November through March. We only got 3-4’ of snow per year (as compared to places like Buffalo), but what we got we kept since the area was generally north of the jet stream and thus stayed cold.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:39:25am

nap time

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:39:29am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was Bengals vs Charges playoff game in Cincinnati in 1982. I remember it well: temp was -9F and windchill was -37F

My mistake. What I read was -59 but only “-37” is nothing to sneeze at.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:40:11am

re: #381 ObserverArt

Well, Ohio never gets as cold as say Minnesota but we have seen -15 to -20 a few times with the wind chills that come with it. I remember a playoff game between the Bengals and Chargers (‘81?) that was pretty damn cold. I thought it was in the negatives, but maybe that was just wind chill.

I have one truly chilly memory of growing up in Pittsburgh—One day the high was -18. Mom did not let me go to school that day and she made me sit in front of our old forced air heater the whole day. Still remember the which frost and ice on the windows. Touching the brick walls was like sticking my hand in a freezer to grab an ice tray…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:40:18am

re: #390 Feline Fearless Leader

Living in extreme northern New York in that time you basically had three options in the winter:
1. Dress for it and go out and do things (my family)*
2. Go to Florida
3. Lay in supplies and hole up in the house.

If you liked clear and cold (20s) weather it was a nice place. Not as much “northeast gray” like Philly is today.

* - My family all skied. Many people in that area played ice hockey. And we usually kept any snow that fell in November through March. We only got 3-4’ of snow per year (as compared to places like Buffalo), but what we got we kept since the area was generally north of the jet stream and thus stayed cold.

I have some friends from upstate New York. Some of the coldest winters I’ve heard about. I just couldn’t do it.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:40:43am

re: #390 Feline Fearless Leader

Living in extreme northern New York in that time you basically had three options in the winter:
1. Dress for it and go out and do things (my family)* Go to Maui
2. Go to Florida Stay on Maui
3. Lay in supplies and hole up in the house. Grow-Old and die on Maui

If you liked clear and cold (20s) weather it was a nice place. Not as much “northeast gray” like Philly is today.

* - My family all skied. Many people in that area played ice hockey. And we usually kept any snow that fell in November through March. We only got 3-4’ of snow per year (as compared to places like Buffalo), but what we got we kept since the area was generally north of the jet stream and thus stayed cold.

FTFY

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:41:00am

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was Bengals vs Charges playoff game in Cincinnati in 1982. I remember it well: temp was -9F and windchill was -37F

Thanks. I thought I remembered that scenario. Are any of the sports media mentioning that or is that not in the hype for this year?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:42:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:42:52am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

My mistake. What I read was -59 but only “-37” is nothing to sneeze at.

That -59 was the “old” method of measuring windchill.
I was in Greater Chicago at the time watching the game. Wind chill up there was -70 something. We could see thick ice building up inside the house along the door and window frames.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:42:52am

re: #393 Joe Bacon

I have one truly chilly memory of growing up in Pittsburgh—One day the high was -18. Mom did not let me go to school that day and she made me sit in front of our old forced air heater the whole day. Still remember the which frost and ice on the windows. Touching the brick walls was like sticking my hand in a freezer to grab an ice tray…

Speaking of Pittsburgh, my cousin was telling me about my great grandmother’s sister and their cousin. They worked at a cork manufacturing company. The Allegheny or maybe it was the Ohio river would freeze and they would cross the frozen river to get to work. They would throw corks at each other when the other was dozing off. Tough ladies. and characters too.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:43:08am

I am subjected to Fox News consistently.

Their early morning ads are all geriatric meds and ED meds.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:43:46am

re: #394 HappyWarrior

I have some friends from upstate New York. Some of the coldest winters I’ve heard about. I just couldn’t do it.

There’s a reason the US Army does winter training at Ft Drum. And that was southeast of us a ways.

The town we lived in (Massena) challenged places in Minnesota for coldest place in the lower 48 every so often. Old Forge, which is near Ft Drum was often as cold (or colder), but I don’t think they had an official weather station. They got more snow too since they sit on the lee side of Lake Ontario on an elevation (Tug Hill Plateau).

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:44:11am

re: #360 ObserverArt

Groan.

I’m removing some plaster to put in an electric box and switch and have Meet The Todd on. Chuck just said:

“Does these poll numbers concerns you?”

He was talking to a panel member about polls showing Bernie is within three points in Iowa.

Nothing would give me more pleasure than to see a smiling Bernie holding up a newspaper that says “Clinton Defeats Sanders” while Chuck U Todd and his fellow stenographers heads explode a la Cronenberg!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:44:31am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

That -59 was the “old” method of measuring windchill.
I was in Greater Chicago at the time watching the game. Wind chill up there was -70 something. We could see thick ice building up inside the house along the door and window frames.

Oh okay, thanks, that does make sense. I never thought of Cincy being a particularly cold place. I mean certainly not a city that doesn’t get cold but if you had asked me, what city holds the record for coldest wind chill in a NFL game, I would have guessed Green Bay, Buffalo, or Minneapolis before Cincy.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:45:31am

re: #334 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

tech question.

I got an external portable harddrive for my pictures (as my start-up disk is full and I can’t do anything in photoshop because of it).

Now, should I partition it for Time Machine, or trust the Cloud backup system?

This wasn’t a rhetorical question.

I’m too old for this shit.

really napping now.

bbl

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:46:02am

re: #401 Feline Fearless Leader

There’s a reason the US Army does winter training at Ft Drum. And that was southeast of us a ways.

The town we lived in (Massena) challenged places in Minnesota for coldest place in the lower 48 every so often. Old Forge, which is near Ft Drum was often as cold (or colder), but I don’t think they had an official weather station. They got more snow too since they sit on the lee side of Lake Ontario on an elevation (Tug Hill Plateau).

I see. I remember my grandfather, Korean War veteran who experienced some pretty cold winters as a kid in Johnstown, Pennsylvania telling me that Korea was one of the coldest places he had ever gone to. I think when we talk about the Korean War, we never factor in the climate. I think a lot of Americans don’t realize how close to Siberia the Koreas are.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:46:27am

re: #401 Feline Fearless Leader

There’s a reason the US Army does winter training at Ft Drum. And that was southeast of us a ways.

The town we lived in (Massena) challenged places in Minnesota for coldest place in the lower 48 every so often. Old Forge, which is near Ft Drum was often as cold (or colder), but I don’t think they had an official weather station. They got more snow too since they sit on the lee side of Lake Ontario on an elevation (Tug Hill Plateau).

I remember a town in Pennsylvania, Kane, that was referred to as the “Icebox of the Commonwealth”. Weather forecasters in Pittsburgh would refer to it once in a while during their segments…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:47:22am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Holy fuck. I think the coldest temps I’ve been was 0. I can’t imagine being in a negative 28 wind chill.

Been to Alaska three times for training, temps were around -25F to -35F without wind chill.
It looked like we were going to parachute into the Yukon at -75F during Brim Frost ‘89, but jump got scrubbed when the Canadians crashed a C-130 at Elmendorf AFB.
The cold temps saved a bunch of the Canadians, slowed their blood loss.

But nothing was quite as fun as dropping your drawers outside to take a crap at 30 below in a 20 knot breeze

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:47:24am

re: #395 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

FTFY

A valid option if you can afford it and have employment there. For us, and many in the area, we were dependent on the aluminum industry* for the most part.

* - More IKE work. St Lawrence Seaway project included hydroelectric dams. More electricity was valuable to the aluminum companies for smelting. Aluminum smelting there attracted a GM parts plant. ALCOA was already there, but expanded operations. Reynolds Metals came and built an operation.

Nowadays, none of it is still operational. And the paper plant across the river in Cornwall, ON is also long gone.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:47:27am

re: #369 Feline Fearless Leader

That would only be after Hillary gets pissed about all the sexist commentary and opts to put on a Dalek suit.

No, because she actually does care for Chelsea and her grandchild (soon to be grandchildren). For that reason alone, Hillary Clinton could never be a Dalek. We don’t have anyone still running for president who could actually fill that role.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:48:53am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart

Been to Alaska three times for training, temps were around -25F to -35F without wind chill.
It looked like we were going to parachute into the Yukon at -75F during Brim Frost ‘89, but jump got scrubbed when the Canadians crashed a C-130 at Elmendorf AFB.
The cold temps saved a bunch of the Canadians, slowed their blood loss.

But nothing was quite as fun as dropping your drawers outside to take a crap at 30 below in a 20 knot breeze

Man I just can’t imagine that. As I said, I’m a wuss when it comes to cold weather. First day of fall and I’m waiting for it to be Spring or Summer. I’m a warm weather person all the way.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:50:13am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

That’s the coldest NFL game on record per wind chill. They called it the Freezer Bowl. -59 with the Wind Chill. I didn’t realize Cincy could get that cold.

It is rare. I think if you look at a map, you see Ohio is almost like in a cup of hills/mountains. If a cold front drops down out of North Dakota/Minnesota it seems to come down from the Northwest and settle into Ohio and makes its lowest point along the Ohio Valley and then arcs back up through Pennsylvania to the New York/New England area.

Ohio can get pretty cold. Columbus is bad because it is flat and when we get wind, we get wind straight on from the west. Brrr. Cleveland has the lake effect and can be just miserable. It’s why we even have skiing! (Though I doubt many agree…it’s more like sliding)

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:50:30am

Action-NK sets off yet another atomic bomb, further testing, developing, perfecting their warheads.

Reaction-U.S. Flies B-52 Bomber Over South Korea In Show Of Force Against North Korea
The United States is also considering sending a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to waters off the Korean peninsula.

Angry letters in the bomb bay?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:51:22am

re: #412 Great White Snark

Action-NK sets off yet another atomic bomb, further testing, developing, perfecting their warheads.

Angry letters in the bomb bay?

DVD copes of “The Interview”

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:51:24am

re: #405 HappyWarrior

I see. I remember my grandfather, Korean War veteran who experienced some pretty cold winters as a kid in Johnstown, Pennsylvania telling me that Korea was one of the coldest places he had ever gone to. I think when we talk about the Korean War, we never factor in the climate. I think a lot of Americans don’t realize how close to Siberia the Koreas are.

I think one reason my parents didn’t think northern New York was that bad was that my mother was from near Buffalo and my father from a little coal town not that far from Johnstown. So they’d seen their share of cold weather before, and probably in homes that were heated less efficiently than ours.

And per nastiness of Korea there is the climate. And also the odds are that the accommodations they had were probably with limited heating, damp, and drafty. All of which make things more miserable.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:52:03am

well here I am at the airport & my flight to LAX has been delayed for 2 hours. All the runways are snowed over! We have to wait for a clear runway.

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danarchy  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:52:24am

re: #389 withak

noooooooooo

Is it just me or does that “horn” look like it has a solid core?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:53:13am

re: #411 ObserverArt

It is rare. I think if you look at a map, you see Ohio is almost like in a cup of hills/mountains. If a cold front drops down out of North Dakota/Minnesota it seems to come down from the Northwest and settle into Ohio and makes its lowest point along the Ohio Valley and then arcs back up through Pennsylvania to the New York/New England area.

Ohio can get pretty cold. Columbus is bad because it is flat and when we get wind, we get wind straight on from the west. Brrr. Cleveland has the lake effect and can be just miserable. It’s why we even have skiing! (Though I doubt many agree…it’s more like sliding)

Interesting. Not surprised about Cleveland since I have heard about the Lake Effect before. Never really considered the westward wins for Columbus. though.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:54:07am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Man I just can’t imagine that. As I said, I’m a wuss when it comes to cold weather. First day of fall and I’m waiting for it to be Spring or Summer. I’m a warm weather person all the way.

For six years I delivered the Pittsburgh Post Gazette in the morning to around 75 people. Remember getting up at 530 in the morning to deliver those papers in the cold, bundling up with the thermal underwear and face masks as I went out.

Grandma kept telling me how wonderful it was in California with the mild winters. Always had that on my mind. I made the decision to leave Pittsburgh and fly to Los Angeles 34 years ago next Saturday. I left Pittsburgh as a massive blizzard was developing, got to Grandma’s house while a thick fog enveloped the city. Next morning, I woke up at 12. Grandma baked crescent rolls, she told me to go outside and pick some tangerines off the tree for breakfast. In January. It was 70 degrees. Right then I knew I was NEVER going back to Pittsburgh!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:54:15am

re: #406 Joe Bacon

I remember a town in Pennsylvania, Kane, that was referred to as the “Icebox of the Commonwealth”. Weather forecasters in Pittsburgh would refer to it once in a while during their segments…

Kane is an interesting spot. Relatively high altitude in northwestern PA along US-6, and I think right on the edge of the lake effect belt off Lake Erie.

I drove through there a lot going between Pittsburgh and western NY when I took secondary roads instead of I-79 and I-90. Trade off decision between 4-lane highways and distance driven. Going via Kane and Cuba, NY was at least 20 miles shorter and more scenic.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:54:54am

About 20 years ago, I was living in north-central Wisconsin, in a little burg called Antigo. On New Year’s Eve, the wind chill hit -76 degrees. Unsurprisingly, the bars were still full.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:55:53am

re: #414 Feline Fearless Leader

I think one reason my parents didn’t think northern New York was that bad was that my mother was from near Buffalo and my father from a little coal town not that far from Johnstown. So they’d seen their share of cold weather before, and probably in homes that were heated less efficiently than ours.

And per nastiness of Korea there is the climate. And also the odds are that the accommodations they had were probably with limited heating, damp, and drafty. All of which make things more miserable.

Yeah your folks would have had experience. But yeah that’s absolutely true about Korea. It just amazes me that he and the other guys in his unit did it. That gets me to another thought about how the most compelling battle episodes of Band of Brothers I felt were in the Battle of the Bulge episodes in Belgium. From what I recall reading correctly, the winter of ‘45 was the coldest winter Western Europe had experienced in some time just like the Winter of ‘41 ended up being one of the coldest Russia had which played a big role in why the Germans never reached Moscow.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:55:55am

When I was littler, I read a war comic about a battle in the Russo-Finnish war, told from the Finns’ side.

The morning of the battle, it was nippy and very cold. Later, at dusk, the Finns are encamped and one asks for a weather report. “Fifty degrees below zero, with a fifty-knot wind chill, and it’s still snowing”

“Fifty-knot winds, and one knot is one degree of wind chill at fifty below”

(in the lowest voice) “It’s a hundred degrees below zero out there.”

The Finns wondered where their opposing force was. They were still there. They were sent out with summer uniforms.

The comic said it was based on a true story. I wonder.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:56:15am

re: #393 Joe Bacon

I have one truly chilly memory of growing up in Pittsburgh—One day the high was -18. Mom did not let me go to school that day and she made me sit in front of our old forced air heater the whole day. Still remember the which frost and ice on the windows. Touching the brick walls was like sticking my hand in a freezer to grab an ice tray…

Much the same being a northern Ohio kid. We even had a damn coal furnace when I was real young. I can still remember the work it took to keep that sucker functioing in weather like we are talking about. It was all gravity heat too. No fan at all. So you had hot spots and in the same room you could freeze. I remember all the work my father had to do to maintain it too. It was a full year job in a way.

Back later…going to put on the mask and tear at some plaster.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:56:21am

re: #331 b.d.

Oh boy

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I guess we now know the results of that poll.

I would have voted for him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:58:14am

re: #422 Sherlock Hound

When I was littler, I read a war comic about a battle in the Russo-Finnish war, told from the Finns’ side.

The morning of the battle, it was nippy and very cold. Later, at dusk, the Finns are encamped and one asks for a weather report. “Fifty degrees below zero, with a fifty-knot wind chill, and it’s still snowing”

“Fifty-knot winds, and one knot is one degree of wind chill at fifty below”

(in the lowest voice) “It’s a hundred degrees below zero out there.”

The Finns wondered where their opposing force was. They were still there. They were sent out with summer uniforms.

The comic said it was based on a true story. I wonder.

I don’t know if it’s true or not but what certainly is true is that the Russians were greatly unprepared for the Finns and the weather. Amazes me really since you’d think the Russians of all people would know. I don’t care if Stalin had purged alot of his good officers by then, any Russian soldier from the highest marshal to the lowest private should factor in weather.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:59:10am

Off to the store. I need some celery for the chicken stock I am making. Plus some dip for the watching of the handegg games.

Feline Overlords are sated on their share of the meat trimmed from the roast chicken and are thus napping in the other room.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:00:15am

About time for lunch and then to go to the basketball game. Looks like I’m stuck scoring today since none of the parents want to but it’s all good.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:03:23am

re: #405 HappyWarrior

I see. I remember my grandfather, Korean War veteran who experienced some pretty cold winters as a kid in Johnstown, Pennsylvania telling me that Korea was one of the coldest places he had ever gone to. I think when we talk about the Korean War, we never factor in the climate. I think a lot of Americans don’t realize how close to Siberia the Koreas are.

I’m sure you have noticed America really doesn’t talk about the Korean War…period!

That is almost the forgotten war. So, all aspects get lost in discussion of wars in general. I’ve always been amazed by the Korean War. It was so brutal in many ways.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:04:40am

One of my former factory managers grew up near International Falls. He said the coldest winter he ever spent was in WI when he was training for submarine duty in early 1942.
(He had a stroke of extreme good luck when he was pulled off his original sub when they tendered and put on a different one. The original never came back.)

The coldest weather I experienced was a weekend in VT. Temp was around -10, and the condensation on the inside of the bus was actually frozen solid. I had these transition type lenses in my glasses that got darker in the cold for some reason and they were like welders’ goggles.

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:05:59am
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sagehen  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:07:40am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

dailynorseman.com
This one will be up there for sure.

1982… San Diego at Cincinnati… wind chill -59.

I’m surprised San Diego didn’t just forfeit.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:07:56am

re: #425 HappyWarrior

I don’t know if it’s true or not but what certainly is true is that the Russians were greatly unprepared for the Finns and the weather. Amazes me really since you’d think the Russians of all people would know. I don’t care if Stalin had purged alot of his good officers by then, any Russian soldier from the highest marshal to the lowest private should factor in weather.

The Red Army had adequate cold weather uniforms, but finding them and getting them to the troops proved very hard in 1939-1940 due to all the holes the purges had put in the logistics pipeline and in chains of communication.

There was an positive result from the chaos, though: An ordered surge in winter uniform production did not do much in the Winter War, but those uniforms were available in November-December of 1941 and their locations were known. As a result, the Red Army was able to outfit its soldiers quickly, giving them a major advantage against the Germans.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:16:09am

“I would be surprised if the Republicans don’t take 45, 46, 47 states out of the 50…”

“I think Donald Trump is phenomenal, I think Rand Paul has done a great job, I even like Jeb Bush — I think Jeb Bush is great, he did a wonderful job in Florida,” he added. “Chris Christie - phenomenal.”

Dick Morris? Nope. From the wonderful guy who brought us Reaganomics, Arthur Laffer.

Yeah, let’s listen to THAT guy.

rawstory.com

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:18:15am

re: #430 Great White Snark

What would justice look like if Donald trump had his way?

Must not happen.

Wrong image for the page, since a bullet to the head was how Kim Jong Un’s granddaddy did it. The younger Kim prefers a more Trumpian (If that wasn’t a word it is now) method of execution:

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:21:47am
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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:22:45am
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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:24:49am

re: #436 wrenchwench

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As usual, the Lizard took the big hit.
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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:34:52am

re: #433 BeachDem

“I would be surprised if the Republicans don’t take 45, 46, 47 states out of the 50…”

“I think Donald Trump is phenomenal, I think Rand Paul has done a great job, I even like Jeb Bush — I think Jeb Bush is great, he did a wonderful job in Florida,” he added. “Chris Christie - phenomenal.”

Dick Morris? Nope. From the wonderful guy who brought us Reaganomics, Arthur Laffer.

Yeah, let’s listen to THAT guy.

rawstory.com

He’s one of the Three Stooges who fucked the economy up in the 80s—along with Kemp and Millken.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:38:02am

Such a policy wonk!

“One of the first things you did this year, though, was offer that [Obamacare] repeal.”

“How is than an alternative?” Dickerson wondered.

“It’s not,” Ryan replied, laughing. “It’s why we have to come up with an alternative. So, you’re right about that one.”

Yeah, during your 62 (?) repeal attempts, you just haven’t had time to come up with anything, right, Mr. Zombie-Eyed-Granny-Starver?

rawstory.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:44:53am

re: #422 Sherlock Hound

The Finns know how to make tires for the cold.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:46:08am

re: #439 BeachDem

Such a policy wonk!

“One of the first things you did this year, though, was offer that [Obamacare] repeal.”

“How is than an alternative?” Dickerson wondered.

“It’s not,” Ryan replied, laughing. “It’s why we have to come up with an alternative. So, you’re right about that one.”

Yeah, during your 62 (?) repeal attempts, you just haven’t had time to come up with anything, right, Mr. Zombie-Eyed-Granny-Starver?

rawstory.com

Forcing Obama to actually veto an Obamacare repeal is the fulfillment of an important base demand. Being able to force it through the Senate is a sign to the base that they aren’t sitting at the kids table anymore.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:46:20am

re: #439 BeachDem

Ah, but Joni Ernst keeps bullshitting the masses about having the churches take care of the needy.

I’LL BELIEVE THAT BULLSHIT WHEN JOEL OSTEEN SELLS HIS $10 MILLION MANSION TO CARE FOR THE POOR!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:46:23am

re: #435 wrenchwench

Ravens pair for life.

Have you seen their freakn’ pre-nup?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:47:07am
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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:48:12am

Wow! I just realized that they forgot to ask for Durkee Sauce on their list…

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:48:39am

re: #336 ObserverArt

The Brits seem to be working on a wall to keep Trump out by having Parliament ban his entry. So, it is not too far out of line to say some people are considering ways to wall out Trump. Even if it doesn’t go through, it sure sends a message to the arrogant ass. And of course, we can all guess how he will react. He’s already threatened to pull out any investment.

Imagine for a moment Trump, as President unable to legally travel to our closest ally. It would be reminiscent of Arafat, unable to travel to so many places and speak for his people. because of his own actions.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:49:20am

re: #443 Decatur Deb

Have you seen their freakn’ pre-nup?

” If either of this pair should stray,
shall return return to this house, Nevermore!”

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Jenner7  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:50:54am

re: #441 Dark_Falcon

Then the base is stupid. Either way, it was a gigantic waste of time and money.

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:51:42am

re: #420 Whack-A-Mole

About 20 years ago, I was living in north-central Wisconsin, in a little burg called Antigo. On New Year’s Eve, the wind chill hit -76 degrees. Unsurprisingly, the bars were still full.

Oh, I know Antigo! As a child, I vacationed every summer at Summit Lake, and when we hit Antigo, we knew we were almost there! Gosh, 60 years ago! I’m old.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:51:45am

re: #446 Great White Snark

Imagine for a moment Trump, as President unable to legally travel to our closest ally. It would be reminiscent of Arafat, unable to travel to so many places and speak for his people. because of his own actions.

I don’t think it would apply if Trump became president. Those exclusions have exceptions for heads of state and heads of government of states. Arafish was never able to take advantage of those exceptions because he was not actually a head of state.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:51:47am

re: #441 Dark_Falcon

Forcing Obama to actually veto an Obamacare repeal is the fulfillment of an important base demand. Being able to force it through the Senate is a sign to the base that they aren’t sitting at the kids table anymore.

Sending something up to the President they know is going to get vetoed still seem kind of adolescent to me. so they are only one baby step away from the kids table.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:51:49am

re: #441 Dark_Falcon

Forcing Obama to actually veto an Obamacare repeal is the fulfillment of an important base demand. Being able to force it through the Senate is a sign to the base that they aren’t sitting at the kids table anymore.

No, they are just being ridiculously childish and proving that they do not plan on accomplishing anything of value to anyone.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:53:07am

re: #448 Jenner7

Then the base is stupid. Either way, it was a gigantic waste of time and money.

And there are lots of brainwashed people in the GOP base who are getting help from the ACA who vote to repeal it. Note where Bevin ran strongest in Kentucky—the poorest counties that got the most help…

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:53:23am

re: #441 Dark_Falcon

Forcing Obama to actually veto an Obamacare repeal is the fulfillment of an important base demand. Being able to force it through the Senate is a sign to the base that they aren’t sitting at the kids table anymore.

Kinda says it all right there.

No policy, no solution—just wah wah, pay attention to MEEEE!!

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:54:22am

re: #450 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think it would apply if Trump became president. Those exclusions have exceptions for heads of state and heads of government of states. Arafish was never able to take advantage of those exceptions because he was not actually a head of state.

Maybe so, but even if there is an exemption, the mindset of unwelcome would surely persist. That would be like when Arafat was allowed here, technically not “here” but in fact to the UN to speak. Very unwelcome here, scorned as such.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:56:49am

re: #450 Dark_Falcon

I don’t think it would apply if Trump became president. Those exclusions have exceptions for heads of state and heads of government of states. Arafish was never able to take advantage of those exceptions because he was not actually a head of state.

Just imagine President Trump going on a foreign visit and being denied entry to a bunch of countries. And then imagine the jeering, ridiculing and humiliation he receives in countries that let him in. Think Nixon in the 50s getting his car window smashed…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:57:33am

Doing the first or last BBQ of the season. (They sort of overlap.) Mmmm planked salmon.

Between grill runs, I’ve put the poly skin on the growhouse—we are supposed to drop to 27 degrees tonight.

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A Cranky One  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:58:41am

re: #454 BeachDem

Kinda says it all right there.

No policy, no solution—just wah wah, pay attention to MEEEE!!

Yup. Do they have an alternative to the ACA? Nope. Will their plan reduce the national debt? Nope, just the opposite. This is nothing more than a “We HATE Obama” vote. As if we didn’t already know that. But they are willing to hurt millions of people, because that’s what their base wants, just to diss Obama.

I’m not sure the Repubs are even mature enough for the kid’s table. Bunch of babies, send them to the nursery.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:02:32am

re: #456 Joe Bacon

Just imagine President Trump going on a foreign visit and being denied entry to a bunch of countries. And then imagine the jeering, ridiculing and humiliation he receives in countries that let him in. Think Nixon in the 50s getting his car window smashed…

People would never get close enough to the president to do that nowadays. And Trumps answers insults with insults, and he’d answer an attacking crowd with drone strikes.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:02:38am

re: #458 A Cranky One

I’m not sure the Repubs are even mature enough for the kid’s table.

Their argument is that they’re allowed to be at the adult table because they’re as old as everyone else. And because we’re civil people, we go along with it. But they’re acting like the uncle that starts telling crazy stories which causes everyone else to get up as soon as they finish eating, leaving the uncle at the food all by himself. The problem is, this uncle starts spitting in the food.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:02:47am

I only served a few weeks the real military, ~1,040, not in some junior academy.
But, I’ve never seen, or heard of any Company Commander being “promoted” to the S-4 logistics officer position.
And, his listed record in the academy yearbook doesn’t even list his stint as a Company Commander.
In any military structured organization, a “Command” position is a pretty damn big deal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:02:59am

It’s not just the people who finally have insurance due to ACA that would be adversely affected by its repeal.
My own insurance (which I was able to keep) benefited from ACA by removing annual and lifetime benefit caps, getting rid of the pre-existing conditions nonsense, requiring wellness and preventive coverage, etc.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:03:07am
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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:03:53am

‘Morning, Lizards,

Apropos of nothing - Radio Paradise just played side one of Jethro Tull’s 1972 album ‘Thick As A Brick,’ Ian Anderson’s epic send-up of progressive rock albums of the time. The album was one song, spanning both sides of a single album. It went on to become one of Tull’s biggest albums in the States, and remains my favorite Tull album.

I remember two things upon first hearing it. One, that the production was miles beyond any Tull album to that point and the band sounded amazing on it. And two, I was working at my college radio station at the time, and Chrysalis provided us with a ‘banded’ copy of the album so we could play snippets of it rather than a whole side at a time. We just filed that copy in the music library and played either side one or side two, and sometimes loaded up the turntables with two copies of the record and played the entire album in one go.

Behold, the strange story of ‘Thick As A Brick.’

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Jenner7  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:06:22am
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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:07:10am

re: #465 Jenner7

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That was about as predictable as the sunset.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:07:33am

re: #406 Joe Bacon

I remember a town in Pennsylvania, Kane, that was referred to as the “Icebox of the Commonwealth”. Weather forecasters in Pittsburgh would refer to it once in a while during their segments…

Kane is where dad and I would go deer hunting. And yes, it could get deathly cold there. It isn’t much more north than I am here in my hometown PA but it is much higher elevation.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:07:44am

re: #458 A Cranky One

Yup. Do they have an alternative to the ACA? Nope. Will their plan reduce the national debt? Nope, just the opposite. This is nothing more than a “We HATE Obama” vote. As if we didn’t already know that. But they are willing to hurt millions of people, because that’s what their base wants, just to diss Obama.

I’m not sure the Repubs are even mature enough for the kid’s table. Bunch of babies, send them to the nursery.

Here’s how the ACA helps me:

1) I have health insurance through my employer. My premium has gone DOWN and I don’t have to worry about getting jacked because of my diabetes and RA!
2) The copay for the Humira IVs I have to have to keep RA in check went DOWN from $50 to $10.
3) My lab tests were $10 each,now they are $0.
4) My prescription copay went DOWN from $25 to $10.
5) My diabetic test strips and supply copayment so went DOWN from $25 to $10.
6) My doctor visit copays went DOWN from $25 to $10.
7) Additional services were covered such as the Arestin my dentist injected to stop periodontal decay.
I hit my annual limit of $1500 in August, after that I didn’t have to pay anything for any services or prescriptions for the rest of the year.

This is what Paul Fucking Ryan and his Asshole Republican pals want to take away not only from me but from millions of others.

FUCK THEM!!!!!!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:08:42am

Another week, another binge.

Two weeks ago, it was ‘River’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who hallucinates about dead people to solve the case.

Last week it was ‘Broadchurch’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who has to solve the case for his own salvation.

This week it’s ‘Luther’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who’s so driven to solve the case he keeps getting in trouble and doing dangerous things.

I’m starting to see a pattern.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:08:55am

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

People would never get close enough to the president to do that nowadays. And Trumps answers insults with insults, and he’d answer an attacking crowd with drone strikes.

Folks, just imagine Asshole Trump ordering a drone strike on a mob jeering him in France…

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Jenner7  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:08:55am

re: #466 Dark_Falcon

My bad. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:09:32am

re: #468 Joe Bacon

Exactly.
I get so sick and tired of the deliberate misrepresentation surrounding ACA.

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Jenner7  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:09:34am

re: #471 Jenner7

So sorry. That was the wrong post. I apologize Dark. That was uncalled for.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:10:47am

re: #473 Jenner7

So sorry. That was the wrong post. I apologize Dark. That as uncalled for.

Apology accepted. Just alter the post or delete, please.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:11:42am
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A Cranky One  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:11:48am

re: #469 Blind Frog Belly White

Another week, another binge.

Two weeks ago, it was ‘River’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who hallucinates about dead people to solve the case.

Last week it was ‘Broadchurch’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who has to solve the case for his own salvation.

This week it’s ‘Luther’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who’s so driven to solve the case he keeps getting in trouble and doing dangerous things.

I’m starting to see a pattern.

It’s about time people started recognizing that cranky people are the best. ;-)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:11:51am

re: #468 Joe Bacon

Here’s how the ACA helps me:

1) I have health insurance through my employer. My premium has gone DOWN.
2) The copay for the Humira IVs I have to have to keep RA in check went DOWN from $50 to $10.
3) My lab tests were $10 each,now they are $0.
4) My prescription copay went DOWN from $25 to $10.
5) My diabetic test strips and supply copayment so went DOWN from $25 to $10.
6) My doctor visit copays went DOWN from $25 to $10.
7) Additional services were covered such as the Arestin my dentist injected to stop periodontal decay.
I hit my annual limit of $1500 in August, after that I didn’t have to pay anything for any services or prescriptions for the rest of the year.

This is what Paul Fucking Ryan and his Asshole Republican pals want to take away not only from me but from millions of others.

FUCK THEM!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, but the President is a Ni-BONG!, so your lifeand health is a secondary consideration to making sure he fails.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:12:38am

re: #469 Blind Frog Belly White

Another week, another binge.

Two weeks ago, it was ‘River’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who hallucinates about dead people to solve the case.

Last week it was ‘Broadchurch’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who has to solve the case for his own salvation.

This week it’s ‘Luther’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who’s so driven to solve the case he keeps getting in trouble and doing dangerous things.

I’m starting to see a pattern.

If none of them drives a sweet Mk2 Jaguar, they can all sod off.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:13:44am

re: #469 Blind Frog Belly White

Another week, another binge.

Two weeks ago, it was ‘River’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who hallucinates about dead people to solve the case.

Last week it was ‘Broadchurch’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who has to solve the case for his own salvation.

This week it’s ‘Luther’, a British show about a cranky loner detective who’s so driven to solve the case he keeps getting in trouble and doing dangerous things.

I’m starting to see a pattern.

You will love Luther. Idris Elba plays an incredibly complex character and protrays him extremely well.

The violence is over the top in spots, but that’s part of the show’s charm.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:14:08am

re: #475 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Poor kitty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:14:27am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:14:53am
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jamesfirecat  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:14:56am

re: #466 Dark_Falcon

That was about as predictable as the sunset.

It’s almost like those people who have had their lives actively affected by this nation’s gun violence, want to see something actively done about it….

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:16:29am

re: #455 Great White Snark

Maybe so, but even if there is an exemption, the mindset of unwelcome would surely persist. That would be like when Arafat was allowed here, technically not “here” but in fact to the UN to speak. Very unwelcome here, scorned as such.

A President Trump *gag* would turn the U.S. into an international pariah. He trash talks a lot, but doing the stuff he claims he would do would ruin us, financially & morally. Far from making America great again, he would be a disaster—not only for us, but for the rest of the world. People need to grow the hell up.

Like it or not, we’re part of a global community and can’t separate ourselves from the rest of humanity under some impenetrable glass dome where we do whatever we please regardless of who gets hurt and without consequences. We’re NOT invincible, and anyone who thinks we are needs to have their head examined.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:17:07am
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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:17:50am

re: #485 wrenchwench

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:18:07am

re: #482 Dr. Matt

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Sub headline
“Self radicalized fanatics dominate proposals”

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:18:08am

re: #483 jamesfirecat

It’s almost like those people who have had their lives personally affected by gun violence, want to see something actively done about it….

It has little to do with guns. Gabby Giffords would have endorsed HRC in this election no matter what. She represented a swing district, so she’s not that far to the left economically, so she wasn’t going to endorse Sanders.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:19:01am

re: #484 CuriousLurker

A President Trump *gag* would turn the U.S. into an international pariah. He trash talks a lot, but doing the stuff he claims he would do would ruin us, financially & morally. Far from making America great again, he would be a disaster—not only for us, but for the rest of the world. People need to grow the hell up.

I can see it now, ‘Ambassador Sean Penn’.

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WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:20:14am

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

It has little to do with guns. Gabby Giffords would have endorsed HRC in this election no matter what. She represented a swing district, so she’s not that far to the left economically, so she wasn’t going to endorse Sanders.

Do you really think Giffords supporting Clinton has nothing to do with guns? Seriously? Wow. I mean, really, just wow.

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:21:35am

re: #490 WhatEVs

Do you really think Giffords supporting Clinton has nothing to do with guns? Seriously? Wow. I mean, really, just wow.

Not nothing, but it wasn’t a notable factor.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:22:36am

re: #489 wrenchwench

I can see it now, ‘Ambassador Sean Penn’.

Add:

Ambassador Chuck Norris,
Ambassador Ted Nugent,
Ambassador James Woods,
Ambassador Jon Voight,
Ambassador Janine Turner,
Ambassador Patricia Heaton

Need I go on???????

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:22:37am

re: #489 wrenchwench

I can see it now, ‘Ambassador Sean Penn’.

OMG, I’d never paid much attention to Sean Penn, but last night I read that piece in RS about EL Chapo. Gawd, he’s an obnoxious prick—especially his self-righteousness.

Edit: And he can’t write worth a shit either.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:23:45am

re: #491 Dark_Falcon

Not nothing, but it wasn’t a notable factor.

Is it not too early to make that determination? What if she becomes Clinton’s main gun control policy person for the campaign?

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:24:30am

re: #488 Dark_Falcon

It has little to do with guns. Gabby Giffords would have endorsed HRC in this election no matter what. She represented a swing district, so she’s not that far to the left economically, so she wasn’t going to endorse Sanders.

Did you know that the issue Giffords has devoted herself to since stepping down from her office is guns? Everything she does politically has to do with guns. And not on your side.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:24:36am

re: #476 A Cranky One

It’s about time people started recognizing that cranky people are the best. ;-)

And usually we arrive at the show we end up watching by being cranky at each other:

Me: I’m gonna watch [insert noisy shoot-em-up or Marvel movie].

Mrs. FBW: That’s too loud! Isn’t there something we both like?

Me: Good luck. Can I go back to [insert noisy shoot-em-up or Marvel movie] when you fall asleep in half an hour?

(Mrs. FBW takes remote. Scans all available channels failing to find anything)

Mrs. FBW: Isn’t there anything on Netflix?

(I take remote, click Netflix button)

Me: What about this?

Mrs. FBW: No!

(Repeat 1-10 times)

Me: Okay, then, I’m gonna watch THIS!

Mrs. FBW: What is it?

Me: Some British detective thing.

Mrs. FBW: Oh, FINE! I’ll give it half an hour!

Me: FINE!

(3 hours later…)

Mrs. FBW: What time is it?

Me: Midnight.

Mrs. FBW: Okay, just one more…

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:26:59am

re: #495 wrenchwench

Did you know that the issue Giffords has devoted herself to since stepping down from her office is guns? Everything she does politically has to do with guns. And not on your side.

I think what Dark is doing is called downplaying Giffords’ value to the current politics of America and how she will be valuable to Hillary.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:27:17am

re: #490 WhatEVs

Do you really think Giffords supporting Clinton has nothing to do with guns? Seriously? Wow. I mean, really, just wow.

There’s something about the two of them, something I can’t quite put my finger on, that just meant Giffords would support Clinton automatically. Something…

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:27:40am

re: #495 wrenchwench

Did you know that the issue Giffords has devoted herself to since stepping down from her office is guns? Everything she does politically has to do with guns. And not on your side.

I’m all about the crosswalks.

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:28:32am

Okay on things more fun than serious-Sunday matinee anyone?
Passed on hateful Eight because basically the Road Show 70mm was sold out all weekend. So H’wood Arclight it is for Revenant. Not my usual kinda film but can’t resist seeing the craft of how it was made it it’s best possible format. All natural light. Outdoors. In a forest. Fascinating backstory on how that was made possible by the Director, DP and the cameras.

In a role like this I like DiCaprio. Last film with him I saw i could not get through, That awful wall street thing. But look at this still, it’s art already.

The two-time Oscar-winning cinematographer on the making of that infamous bear scene—and his sudden Instagram fame.
Emmanuel “Chivo” Lubezki can’t help but chuckle at the thought of a bear having its way with Leonardo DiCaprio.

“Oh, it’s so sad,” the Oscar-winning cinematographer wryly chided on a bright afternoon in Beverly Hills, thinking back to exaggerated reports of DiCaprio’s tangle with a mama grizzly in the brutal, beautiful 19th century survivalist saga The Revenant.

“It’s funny for a second, but then it’s so sad that somebody published that and then we read it. It was incredibly depressing even though it was very funny,” he laughed, sunlight streaming into his cozy suite. “I hope SNL makes a skit about it.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:29:18am

re: #493 CuriousLurker

OMG, I’d never paid much attention to Sean Penn, but last night I read that piece in RS about EL Chapo. Gawd, he’s an obnoxious prick—especially his self-righteousness.

Keep reading if he doesn’t sicken you too much. He has been controversial his entire time in Hollywood. This isn’t the first time people have wondered WTF is he doing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:31:27am

re: #501 ObserverArt

Keep reading if he doesn’t sicken you too much. He has been controversial his entire time in Hollywood. This isn’t the first time people have wondered WTF is he doing.

He gets his comeuppance in Team America

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:33:12am

re: #493 CuriousLurker

OMG, I’d never paid much attention to Sean Penn, but last night I read that piece in RS about EL Chapo. Gawd, he’s an obnoxious prick—especially his self-righteousness.

Edit: And he can’t write worth a shit either.

I liked him a lot better when he was Jeff Spicoli.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:34:00am
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451_Montag  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:34:09am

re: #498 Belafon

There’s something about the two of them, something I can’t quite put my finger on, that just meant Giffords would support Clinton automatically. Something…

They both have 2 is in their name, which makes them the antichrist?

I is the 9th letter of the alphabet so 4 x 9 is 36…3x6…666, join the dots people.

Therefore any republican would be the better choice.

I may be channeling here

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:34:09am

re: #503 makeitstop

I liked him a lot better when he was Jeff Spicoli.

I thought it was cool he wrote about holding his dick. Edgy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:34:17am

re: #503 makeitstop

I liked him a lot better when he was Jeff Spicoli.

He did a good job in The Thin Red Line, and I haven’t seen Milk, but I hear that was a good performance

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Dark_Falcon  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:34:51am

re: #497 ObserverArt

I think what Dark is doing is called downplaying Giffords’ value to the current politics of America and how she will be valuable to Hillary.

That’s what I was doing. Giffords’ endorsement of Clinton was predictable, given her policy preferences, and I don’t think it will change the minds of a significant number of people. People for whom gun control is a top concern were never going to vote for Bernie Sanders anyways, nor was Giffords as a woman going to endorse O’Malley.

No, Gabby Giffords’ endorsement of Hillary Clinton was entirely predictable. Doesn’t anything bad personally about anyone to say that. Politics is about alliances and calculation.

BBL

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:36:16am

Too soon?

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:36:27am

re: #507 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He did a good job in The Thin Red Line, and I haven’t seen Milk, but I hear that was a good performance

I like The Falcon and the Snowman a lot. But that was a long time ago.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:38:18am

re: #508 Dark_Falcon

That’s what I was doing. Giffords’ endorsement of Clinton was predictable, given her policy preferences, and I don’t think it will change the minds of a significant number of people. People for whom gun control is a top concern were never going to vote for Bernie Sanders anyways, nor was Giffords as a woman going to endorse O’Malley.

No, Gabby Giffords’ endorsement of Hillary Clinton was entirely predictable. Doesn’t anything bad personally about anyone to say that. Politics is about alliances and calculation.

BBL

Your downplaying Giffords’ value was even more predictable. As was your ignoring of my comment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:38:22am
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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:39:26am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:39:32am

re: #504 Dr. Matt

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Seriously?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:40:15am

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

He really ought to put on a jacket. Sub-zero temps can be very dangerous to uncovered skin.

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wrenchwench  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:40:17am

re: #507 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He did a good job in The Thin Red Line, and I haven’t seen Milk, but I hear that was a good performance

Milk was good.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:41:12am
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sagehen  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:41:40am

re: #464 makeitstop

‘And two, I was working at my college radio station at the time, and Chrysalis provided us with a ‘banded’ copy of the album so we could play snippets of it rather than a whole side at a time. We just filed that copy in the music library and played either side one or side two, and sometimes loaded up the turntables with two copies of the record and played the entire album in one go.

Behold, the strange story of ‘Thick As A Brick.’

Something I only did when it was coming up on finals week and I needed to continue studying through my shift. “The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway”, “Quadrophenia”, “The Wall”.

Special Programming!! A Treat For Our Listeners!!

Not at all a lazy, distracted DJ.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:41:43am

re: #500 Great White Snark

E gad, I just looked up the actual story about Hugh Glass. *gulp*

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:43:11am

re: #507 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He did a good job in The Thin Red Line, and I haven’t seen Milk, but I hear that was a good performance

One of my favorite fact-based crime movies is At Close Range with Penn as the son of Christopher Walken’s Bruce Johnston Sr. A lot of other good young actors and bit players in it too.

Penn and Walken had a nice tension going on that whole film. And the story is outrageous enough on its own…it made a great little movie that very few seemed to have seen. Walken has a great scene where he realizes he is going down and he just goes into a mind-losing rage driving a truck out in a farm field.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:48:30am

re: #518 sagehen

Something I only did when it was coming up on finals week and I needed to continue studying through my shift. “The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway”, “Quadrophenia”, “The Wall”.

Special Programming!! A Treat For Our Listeners!!

Not at all a lazy, distracted DJ.

Absolutely! The perfect soundtrack for a long lunch or a trip outside for a couple of pulls on a joint. :)

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Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:50:01am

re: #519 CuriousLurker

E gad, I just looked up the actual story about Hugh Glass. *gulp*

Where else is there but the frontier or the military for those who have the desire and capacity for hard dangerous places and jobs? We Americans already make too much of that mindset in more modern/urban circumstances. We get little glimpses from Alaska reality shows. Then we have the heroes of the high frontier. Hello ISS. A very different kind of danger and those that can cope well. Exceed in it. Anyway gotta go off to Hollywood.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:54:16am

re: #466 Dark_Falcon

That was about as predictable as the sunset.

And so is your voting for Trump.

“BBL”

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:56:10am

re: #523 GlutenFreeJesus

And so is your voting for Trump.

“BBL”

The “BBL” was a nice touch. lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 10:57:03am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:02:15am

re: #407 FormerDirtDart

Been to Alaska three times for training, temps were around -25F to -35F without wind chill.
It looked like we were going to parachute into the Yukon at -75F during Brim Frost ‘89, but jump got scrubbed when the Canadians crashed a C-130 at Elmendorf AFB.
The cold temps saved a bunch of the Canadians, slowed their blood loss.

But nothing was quite as fun as dropping your drawers outside to take a crap at 30 below in a 20 knot breeze

My father worked in Clear, AK in the early 60’s and he’s said that after -20 it just doesn’t matter anymore, you can’t feel the difference. :P

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:03:39am

Makes you wonder, elected by who?
Don’t these seditionists consider their “Committee of Safety” leaders to be duly elected?

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Jenner7  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:05:13am

re: #527 FormerDirtDart

Did he bring his tarp?
//

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:08:18am

Afternoon Lizardim from the brisk, beautiful wild north country. Damn cold day for a football game, but who’s counting? Well, the pizza delivery guys are - I picked up a pizza for fish family after church, and the ladies on the phone were saying that delivery times were between 1 and 1.5 hours. Egad. How go things among the lizardfolk on this clear, sunny, well-below-zero-degrees-F day?

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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:08:42am

Sure, he posted this to his blog but then deleted it..
Was he also flying on a winged unicorn at the time?

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:08:50am

And in other news…Hawaii Dem asks to break Congress dress code for ‘Aloha Fridays’

I’d hold out for Jimmy Buffett music and umbrella drinks, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:09:21am

well, except for tarpman…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:09:25am

re: #531 makeitstop

And in other news…Hawaii Dem asks to break Congress dress code for ‘Aloha Fridays’

I’d hold out for Jimmy Buffett music and umbrella drinks, too.

Isn’t Margaritaville a suburb of Washington, D.C.?///

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:11:12am

re: #532 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, except for tarpman…

New meme: “Tarpman was unavailable for comment.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:11:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:12:20am

re: #528 Jenner7

Did he bring his tarp?
//

Real men don’t go anywhere without their tarps

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:16:14am

re: #533 thedopefishlives

Isn’t Margaritaville a suburb of Washington, D.C.?///

I remember we went to the Margaritaville restaurant in New Orleans while on vacation one year. They have a drink on the menu that’s supposedly the margarita that the song was written about, and I ordered one.

The waitress said ‘Ugh, I hate bringing those to the table. The fumes make me nauseous.’

‘Fumes?’, I thought. But hey, vacation, what the hell. And sure enough, when she delivered the drink I could smell it coming from three booths away. Three different tequilas in a ridiculously oversized glass.

I drank half of it, and my poor wife had to load my drunk ass into a cab to make the three blocks back to the hotel. Good times.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:17:37am

re: #531 makeitstop

And in other news…Hawaii Dem asks to break Congress dress code for ‘Aloha Fridays’

I’d hold out for Jimmy Buffett music and umbrella drinks, too.

Next, pineapple on pizzas.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:19:06am

re: #537 makeitstop

Holy smokes. When you can smell it coming from the bar to your table, you know you’re in trouble.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:19:14am

re: #538 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Next, pineapple on pizzas.

Come on, dude. We gotta draw the line somewhere.

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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:19:38am

re: #536 FormerDirtDart

Real men don’t go anywhere without their tarps

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No they misread, it is “don’t panic and always bring your towel.”

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:20:48am

re: #541 ausador

No they misread, it is “don’t panic and always bring your towel.”

Towel, tarp, same difference.

///

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:21:24am

re: #539 thedopefishlives

Holy smokes. When you can smell it coming from the bar to your table, you know you’re in trouble.

Indeed. That was an industrial-strength margarita. If Buffett was drinking those, I’m surprised he ever finished the damn song.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:21:39am

re: #540 makeitstop

Come on, dude. We gotta draw the line somewhere.

I’ve always wanted to Pineapple Pizza a thread really early and see if it’s totally destroyed all day.

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:22:18am

I thought the Wingnuts hated TARP/

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:23:34am

re: #544 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

I’ve always wanted to Pineapple Pizza a thread really early and see if it’s totally destroyed all day.

It ain’t as bad as it used to be. The early Pineapple Pizza battles were truly epic. Many Lizards were pilloried in the LGF Town Square in those days, I can tell you.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:23:51am

re: #544 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

I’ve always wanted to Pineapple Pizza a thread really early and see if it’s totally destroyed all day.

Ham and pineapple pizzas are awesome for a change up every once in a while.

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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:25:50am

Sounds about right. :(

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:26:05am

This is apparently the “Articles of Resolution” the Pacific Patriots Network (PPN) Gave to Bundy group, Sheriff and FBI yesterday

For easier reading:
Page 1
Page 2

And then this

Again, easier to read Jan. 10 PPN statement

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:26:29am

re: #530 ausador

Sure, he posted this to his blog but then deleted it..
Was he also flying on a winged unicorn at the time?

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Heh, just viewed the responses to that and blocked about 20 people.

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sagehen  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:28:04am

re: #532 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, except for tarpman…

If they’re all at church, wouldn’t this be the perfect time for law enforcement to move in, change the locks, block the driveway…

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:31:15am

re: #546 makeitstop

It ain’t as bad as it used to be. The early Pineapple Pizza battles were truly epic. Many Lizards were pilloried in the LGF Town Square in those days, I can tell you.

Ham and pineapple - nothing better, especially as a calzone.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:31:24am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart

This is apparently the “Articles of Resolution” the Pacific Patriots Network (PPN) Gave to Bundy group, Sheriff and FBI yesterday

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Again, easier to read Jan. 10 PPN syayement

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:32:44am

re: #551 sagehen

If they’re all at church, wouldn’t this be the perfect time for law enforcement to move in, change the locks, block the driveway…

Naaaah! You can’t deny right wing terrorists their freedom of religion, but if they were Muslims…

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:34:49am

re: #553 Tigger2

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I find it funny how they don’t want to fight the Native American tribe now, but wants to unite. Wonder if the tribe will comment on that request?

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Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:35:08am

re: #552 William Lewis

Ham and pineapple - nothing better, especially as a calzone.

You’ve not had a Kalua pig and jalapeno pizza.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:35:56am

re: #556 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

You’ve not had a Kalua pig and jalapeno pizza.

I would try that.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:38:02am

re: #556 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

You’ve not had a Kalua pig and jalapeno pizza.

I can’t do jalapenos on anything but I do like banana peppers.

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KingKenrod  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:38:13am

re: #549 FormerDirtDart

Again, easier to read Jan. 10 PPN syayement

LOL “… open dialogue by any means necessary”.

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retired cynic  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:38:38am

re: #559 KingKenrod

LOL “… open dialogue by any means necessary”.

Crowbar.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:38:46am

re: #530 ausador

Sure, he posted this to his blog but then deleted it..
Was he also flying on a winged unicorn at the time?

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LOL, just found the site they got it from. I’ve run across it before—it’s so totally over-the-top I don’t know how any rational person could take it seriously.

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ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:40:13am

re: #552 William Lewis

Ham and pineapple - nothing better, especially as a calzone.

That’s cool…because it’s not a damn pizza!!!

/// : )

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:40:21am

re: #555 Eventual Carrion

I find it funny how they don’t want to fight the Native American tribe now, but wants to unite. Wonder if the tribe will comment on that request?

The tribe made a statement a couple days ago the wanted the idiots to go home and get off of their sacred land. but don’t know if they will to this.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:42:23am

re: #561 CuriousLurker

LOL, just found the site they got it from. I’ve run across it before—it’s so totally over-the-top I don’t know how any rational person could take it seriously.

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b_sharp  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:43:15am

re: #562 ObserverArt

That’s cool…because it’s not a damn pizza!!!

/// : )

We’re having pizza tonight. Ham & pineapple with mushrooms on half.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:43:22am

re: #564 FormerDirtDart

“Oh, here’s my date. I met him on the Internet. He’s a French model.”

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:43:37am

re: #564 FormerDirtDart

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LOL, I had no idea they had internet access back then.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:44:56am

re: #566 thedopefishlives

“Oh, here’s my date. I met him on the Internet. He’s a French model.”

569
CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:45:12am

re: #565 b_sharp

We’re having pizza tonight. Ham & pineapple with mushrooms on half.

Pizza blasphemy!

570
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:45:27am

re: #567 CuriousLurker

LOL, I had no idea they had internet access back then.

They called it Cowboy WiFi. Here in HI we call it Coconut Wireless.

571
thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:46:03am

re: #570 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

They called it Cowboy WiFi. Here in HI we call it Coconut Wireless.

Coconut Wireless, is that what Gilligan had on the island?

572
makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:47:01am

re: #569 CuriousLurker

Pizza blasphemy!

Here we go! The first shots in the Pizza War of 2016 have been fired! :D

573
ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:47:36am

re: #565 b_sharp

We’re having pizza tonight. Ham & pineapple with mushrooms on half.

It’s too early in the day to upset the pizza gods with false toppings.

574
thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:47:53am

re: #565 b_sharp

We’re having pizza tonight. Ham & pineapple with mushrooms on half.

That’s the kind of pizza Mrs. Fish likes. Either that, or chicken with white sauce. White sauce on a pizza, honey, really?

575
PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:49:35am

re: #572 makeitstop

Oh darn a pizza fight.

576
ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:49:40am

ABC “analyst” imparts his wisdom…

577
b_sharp  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:49:55am

re: #574 thedopefishlives

That’s the kind of pizza Mrs. Fish likes. Either that, or chicken with white sauce. White sauce on a pizza, honey, really?

My grandson & I chose it.

578
Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:50:22am

re: #552 William Lewis

Ham and pineapple - nothing better, especially as a calzone.

That is good. I always order it “hold the pineapple,” though.

579
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:50:25am

If anyone is ever lucky enough to come across a Happy Joe’s pizzeria, you must have the Happy Joe’s Special. Canadian bacon and sauerkraut. That pie got me through many a day in college. :)

happyjoes.com

580
Eventual Carrion  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:50:54am

re: #574 thedopefishlives

That’s the kind of pizza Mrs. Fish likes. Either that, or chicken with white sauce. White sauce on a pizza, honey, really?

They make a white sauce Philly cheese-steak at my friends place in town that is good.

581
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:51:03am

re: #575 PhillyPretzel

Oh darn a pizza fight.

Pizza fights are so cheesy.

582
thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:51:22am

re: #580 Eventual Carrion

They make a white sauce Philly cheese-steak at my friends place in town that is good.

It’s good, don’t get me wrong, but it just seems so un-pizza-like.

583
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:51:29am

re: #576 ausador

ABC “analyst” imparts his wisdom…

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Senator and Secretary of State are just honorary positions, I guess.

584
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:52:51am

re: #576 ausador

His fee fees are a little hurted by Woman Front Runner.

585
Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:53:02am

Pizza wars lack pizzazz.

586
The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:53:16am

re: #575 PhillyPretzel

Oh darn a pizza fight.

We could try and unite the pizza fans by giving them a common enemy, those sinister foreign flatbreads cooked with toppings, like manukish and lahmacun.

587
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:53:52am

re: #576 ausador

ABC “analyst” imparts his wisdom…

[Embedded content]

Additionally, it looks like, once again, they’re angling to call any candidate or President who isn’t an old white guy an ‘Affirmative Action President’. Fuck that noise.

588
FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:53:53am

re: #583 Blind Frog Belly White

Senator and Secretary of State are just honorary positions, I guess.

Yeah, but she was only given those positions because she is a woman
//

589
PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:54:00am

re: #586 The Ghost of a Flea

Hmm. That might work.

590
I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:54:41am

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

People would never get close enough to the president to do that nowadays. And Trumps answers insults with insults, and he’d answer an attacking crowd with drone strikes.

So he has your vote?

591
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:54:42am

re: #586 The Ghost of a Flea

We could try and unite the pizza fans by giving them a common enemy, those sinister foreign flatbreads cooked with toppings, like manukish and lahmacun.

Love me some lahmacun too!

592
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:55:00am

re: #583 Blind Frog Belly White

Senator and Secretary of State are just honorary positions, I guess.

Just some womanly windowdress positions, for which she has been investigated for BENGHAZI.

Makes me think: Benghazi sounds like a type of pizza.

593
CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:55:13am

re: #579 GlutenFreeJesus

Sauerkraut?? ZOMG, that like 10 times worse than pineapple. //

594
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:55:18am

re: #588 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, but she was only given those positions because she is a woman
//

Right. A man would have had to win an election, or be nominated by the President and approved by the Senate.

Hey, wait….

595
Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:56:57am

re: #592 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Just some womanly windowdress positions, for which she has been investigate for BENGHAZI.

Makes me think: Benghazi sounds like a type of pizza.

It’s a fairly uninteresting pizza, hardly distinguishable from many similar pizzas, but Wingnuts think it’s AMAZING!!!
///

596
ObserverArt  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:57:10am

re: #585 Nyet

Pizza wars lack pizzazz.

We should just launch the pineapples in air cannons, maybe ham mortars too.

Leave the sauce and crust out.

Would that help?

597
CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:57:53am

re: #586 The Ghost of a Flea

We could try and unite the pizza fans by giving them a common enemy, those sinister foreign flatbreads cooked with toppings, like manukish and lahmacun.

I had to google both of those.

598
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:58:47am

re: #593 CuriousLurker

Sauerkraut?? ZOMG, that like 10 times worse than pineapple. //

lol Believe me. It’s so dang good!

599
calochortus  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:59:51am

re: #572 makeitstop

Here we go! The first shots in the Pizza War of 2016 have been fired! :D

Hmmm, here I am about to start the annoying part of a colonoscopy prep (that gallon of floor wax/antifreeze or whatever it is-certainly not a dessert topping.) Will it be better than a pizza with pineapple? Probably not, but who knows? Currently I’m just at the crabby/hungry stage of the prep.

600
CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:00:13pm

Dammit, now I’m hungry. BBL

601
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:00:46pm

Benghazi Pizza:

barely any sauce, lots of cheese, overcooked till super toasty

602
b_sharp  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:02:05pm

re: #599 calochortus

Hmmm, here I am about to start the annoying part of a colonoscopy prep (that gallon of floor wax/antifreeze or whatever it is-certainly not a dessert topping.) Will it be better than a pizza with pineapple? Probably not, but who knows? Currently I’m just at the crabby/hungry stage of the prep.

Been there, done that.

Just remember the hunger is better than the pain.

603
Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:02:09pm

re: #601 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Benghazi Pizza:

barely any sauce, lots of cheese, overcooked till super toasty

“And that will be $15 million; would you like that delivered?”

604
FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:03:53pm

re: #603 Barefoot Grin

“And that will be $15 million; would you like that delivered?”

and the driver never understands the directions, and never delivers as promised

605
makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:04:32pm

re: #595 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s a fairly uninteresting pizza, hardly distinguishable from many similar pizzas, but Wingnuts think it’s AMAZING!!!
///

They’ve held 11 taste tests and find it just yummy!

/

606
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:05:44pm

re: #603 Barefoot Grin

“And that will be $15 million; would you like that delivered?”

That will be $15m, then $5m, then $7m, then $2m. And it will be cold when it arrives.

607
The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:06:27pm

STILL at the fucking airport.

First, they had to clear the runways. Then, the plane we were supposed to be on, had to arrive from the other airport it was diverted to.

Then it landed. Then all the passengers had to deplane. Then they had to clean the goddamn plane.

Now they just announced that the flight attendants have to arrive from the airport the flight they were on was diverted to.

Also, the airport wifi sucks.

608
The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:12:02pm

re: #597 CuriousLurker

I had to google both of those.

I didn’t because my brain prioritizes baked disks of dough with cheese and toppings. That is an easily-retrievable bit of data.

609
calochortus  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:12:34pm

re: #602 b_sharp

Been there, done that.

Just remember the hunger is better than the pain.

In reading the instructions for the jug ‘o disgusting liquid I noticed they had information on what can go wrong with “geriatric patients.” That would be people over 60. Over 60???!!! Really?

610
FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:12:52pm

I’m beginning to think they’re doing this stuff just to get some coverage away from Candidate Trump®

611
Camacho DeezNuts 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:29:45pm

See? Pineapple Pizza = Destroyer of Threads.

612
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 12:29:52pm

This is Brandon Rapolla:

613
A Cranky One  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:05:57pm

re: #579 GlutenFreeJesus

If anyone is ever lucky enough to come across a Happy Joe’s pizzeria, you must have the Happy Joe’s Special. Canadian bacon and sauerkraut. That pie got me through many a day in college. :)

happyjoes.com

Mrs Cranky’s favorite pizza!

614
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:22:13pm

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 10, 2016 • 1:34:47pm

re: #614 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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