From David Bowie’s Brilliant New Album: “Sue (Or in a Season of Crime)”

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The new album from David Bowie, Blackstar, is absolutely fantastic — moving, surreal, cacophonic and wildly inventive. One of the best albums I’ve heard in a long time.

And this track is one of the best on it. Oddly enough, though, the version on the album is not the one you hear in this video. The music video is a sort of twisted jazz big band track; the album version is more rock-oriented, with more prominent drums and guitars. Both versions are great, but I think I prefer this one because it’s truly unsettling, like a soundtrack for a very dark film noir in which the horn section keeps veering from beautiful harmonies to disquieting dissonance.

Music video by David Bowie performing Sue (Or in a Season of Crime). (C) 2014 ISO Records, under license to Sony Music Entertainment

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204 comments
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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:54:45pm

From HuffPo:

President Obama Is Preparing A Plan To Close Guantanamo Bay

huffingtonpost.com

His failure (so far) to deliver on this has been the only major disappointment of his terms.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:56:17pm
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Velvet Elvis  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:56:51pm

I’ve listened to this album at least five times since it came out.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:56:56pm

re: #1 Decatur Deb

From HuffPo:

President Obama Is Preparing A Plan To Close Guantanamo Bay

huffingtonpost.com

His failure (so far) to deliver on this has been the only major disappointment of his terms.

The reason he hasn’t been able to achieve this yet is the usual one - he’s been subverted by Congress at every turn. The Republican Party seems to want to keep this open sore around forever.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:59:01pm

re: #2 Dr. Matt

Good idea. I also like the idea of native Americans sending them blankets.

That’s cold, man.

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Velvet Elvis  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:59:11pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

The reason he hasn’t been able to achieve this yet is the usual one - he’s been subverted by Congress at every turn. The Republican Party seems to want to keep this open sore around forever.

Congressional Democrats mostly opposed it too.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 3:59:52pm

This version of ‘Sue’ blows my mind. Bowie’s considerable body of work continues to expand in unexpected directions.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:00:02pm

re: #6 Velvet Elvis

Congressional Democrats mostly opposed it too.

Then fuck them too, just for consistency.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:01:14pm

re: #7 makeitstop

This version of ‘Sue’ blows my mind. Bowie’s considerable body of work continues to expand in unexpected directions.

This track reminds me a little bit of some of the stuff on T-Bone Burnett’s “Tooth of Crime” - another terrific album that was sadly overlooked.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:01:24pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

The reason he hasn’t been able to achieve this yet is the usual one - he’s been subverted by Congress at every turn. The Republican Party seems to want to keep this open sore around forever.

Well, of course, Charles, because TERRORISTS!!!!!

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:07:55pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:09:17pm

re: #11 Tigger2

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:10:31pm
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lockjawcanbefun  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:14:17pm
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dharmamark  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:15:24pm

It’s really a surprising treat. I really liked it.

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Tigger2  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:15:47pm

LOL

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:18:16pm

re: #16 Tigger2

LOL

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From FMyLife.com: “Today, I found out that I’m going to be a father. Too bad I can’t tell my wife. FML”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:18:32pm

We are 2 hours out from LA. Finally took off after waiting 4 hours at the terminal and another hours & a half on the tarmac.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:19:06pm

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

We are 2 hours out from LA. Finally took off after waiting 4 hours at the terminal and another hours & a half on the tarmac.

An hour and a half on the tarmac? Dafuq?

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:19:32pm

re: #14 lockjawcanbefun

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Changing my avatar in honor of @nero

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:21:28pm

re: #20 b.d.

Changing my avatar in honor of @nero

Shouldn’t it have mourning crepe or something around it?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:21:56pm

re: #19 thedopefishlives

An hour and a half on the tarmac? Dafuq?

Waiting for the pilot & co pilot, and also for the gate agent to close the door because there were still some empty middle seats

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:23:00pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Waiting for the pilot & co pilot, and also for the gate agent to close the door because there were still some empty middle seats

Interesting. Last time we didn’t have a flight crew, they held us at the gate until the flight crew arrived. I thought you meant actually out on the taxiway or (worse) parked in a maintenance lot.

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:23:03pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Shouldn’t it have mourning crepe or something around it?

I can’t believe that the wingnuts haven’t created a Twitter ribbon for @nero, they’re slacking.

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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:24:19pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

The reason he hasn’t been able to achieve this yet is the usual one - he’s been subverted by Congress at every turn. The Republican Party seems to want to keep this open sore around forever.

Because they (and some Democrats in reddish districts that may be vulnerable to a challenge from TPers) still want a offshore black site to use in the Eternal War on Terror.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:24:50pm

And Baby Snidely Whiplash said this==>

WTF. HURR HURR IF U DON’T LIKE TEH WORKING CONDITIONS DON’T TAKE TEH JERB GET A BETTER JERB HURR HURR

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:25:18pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart

Apparently I’m not human, because, having not understood what it is about, I haven’t even smiled.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:26:31pm

re: #23 thedopefishlives

Interesting. Last time we didn’t have a flight crew, they held us at the gate until the flight crew arrived. I thought you meant actually out on the taxiway or (worse) parked in a maintenance lot.

When I flew to Vegas last May, I sat in Dallas for an extra hour because the airline couldn’t find the pilot.

Couldn’t find him. Dafuq?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:27:08pm

re: #19 thedopefishlives

An hour and a half on the tarmac? Dafuq?

Easy at snowy airports - get de-iced, wait in line of slow take-offs due to conditions. Wait too long and have to go de-ice again. Rinse and repeat.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:27:46pm

re: #25 TedStriker

Because they still want a offshore black site to use in the Eternal War on Terror.

That’s a reasonable explanation, but I think it’s just because they’re pricks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:28:09pm

re: #28 makeitstop

When I flew to Vegas last May, I sat in Dallas for an extra hour because the airline couldn’t find the pilot.

Couldn’t find him. Dafuq?

That happened to us last spring when we flew from Amsterdam to Prague. Our first flight was cancelled and then they had to find another airplane. Then when they bussed us out to the airplane OOPS WHERE’S THE FLIGHT CREW.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:28:21pm

re: #28 makeitstop

When I flew to Vegas last May, I sat in Dallas for an extra hour because the airline couldn’t find the pilot.

Couldn’t find him. Dafuq?

He left the number for the wrong bar.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:29:29pm

re: #29 Feline Fearless Leader

Easy at snowy airports - get de-iced, wait in line of slow take-offs due to conditions. Wait too long and have to go de-ice again. Rinse and repeat.

The flight crew and the pilots were on different flights that were re-routed to Cleveland & Minneapolis due to the conditions in Detroit. So we had to wait for them to get in from there.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:30:10pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

That happened to us last spring when we flew from Amsterdam to Prague. Our first flight was cancelled and then they had to find another airplane. Then when they bussed us out to the airplane OOPS WHERE’S THE FLIGHT CREW.

Could that have been what happened to your luggage that time - they left it on the first plane?

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:30:18pm

re: #29 Feline Fearless Leader

Easy at snowy airports - get de-iced, wait in line of slow take-offs due to conditions. Wait too long and have to go de-ice again. Rinse and repeat.

It’s a common enough occurrence here, but I’ve never had to de-ice more than once. Minneapolis has a pretty good system in place for de-icing aircraft; I got to see them once, lined up in a row, and the de-icers would just go up and down the line spraying planes as they wheeled up, then they’d wheel off to the active runway and blast off.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:31:49pm

re: #34 makeitstop

Could that have been what happened to your luggage that time - they left it on the first plane?

That’s probably what happened.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:31:51pm

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

The flight crew and the pilots were on different flights that were re-routed to Cleveland & Minneapolis due to the conditions in Detroit. So we had to wait for them to get in from there.

A lot of people seem not to understand the logistics involved in this sort of industry. On the flight where we were waiting for our flight crew, it was similar to your circumstances, except they didn’t let us on the plane. They knew where the flight crew was, but people were still grumbling about, “Why don’t they just get another flight crew and get us in the air?” That would’ve screwed over a whole bunch of other people, that’s why.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:32:15pm

re: #27 Nyet

I don’t get why you’re being down-dinged for fairly innocuous comments in yesterday’s Geller thread. Weird. Once could be an accident, but twice starts to look like a pattern…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:32:54pm

re: #37 thedopefishlives

A lot of people seem not to understand the logistics involved in this sort of industry. On the flight where we were waiting for our flight crew, it was similar to your circumstances, except they didn’t let us on the plane. They knew where the flight crew was, but people were still grumbling about, “Why don’t they just get another flight crew and get us in the air?” That would’ve screwed over a whole bunch of other people, that’s why.

The flight crew arrived so they opened up the aircraft but we still had to wait on board for the pilots.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:33:40pm

BTW, why was @nero de-verified?

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:34:44pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

BTW, why was @nero de-verified?

The first step toward purging conservatives on Twitter being an asshole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:35:37pm

Nothing says “Family Values” like forced birth, but then don’t allow the mother to recover from the birth or stay with her newborn.

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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:35:38pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

BTW, why was @nero de-verified?

I’m guessing because, in part, he’s a fucking douchebag.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:36:40pm

MEMO TO SELF: Try and not book the same flight as VB.

RBS

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:37:01pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

“Some women enter VOLUNTARY employment situations with these conditions.”

Rather than starve. Oddly enough.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:37:01pm

re: #43 TedStriker

I’m guessing because, in part, he’s a fucking douchebag.

Why does Ben Shapiro have a blue checkmark & is a yooge douchebag.

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:37:07pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

BTW, why was @nero de-verified?

The bigger question is why was he ever verified to begin with?

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:38:49pm

re: #38 CuriousLurker

Doesn’t seem to be a wingnut, so I’m still tempted to ascribe it to fat fingers.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:39:19pm

re: #47 b.d.

The bigger question is why was he ever verified to begin with?

Ha! I just noticed your blue check mark.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:39:45pm

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

Why does Ben Shapiro have a blue checkmark & is a yooge douchebag.

He colored it himself, and stayed within the lines.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:43:09pm
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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:43:38pm

What does he mean, parody?

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:44:14pm

Hey Philly, if you’re still around here’s a shout-out to your hometown in the pages. ;-)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:44:58pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

BTW, why was @nero de-verified?

Twitter hasn’t specified a reason, but it could have been for any one of thousands of abusive tweets.

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:45:48pm

re: #49 CuriousLurker

Ha! I just noticed your blue check mark.

I’m me, I checked.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:47:12pm

re: #46 The Vicious Babushka

Why does Ben Shapiro have a blue checkmark & is a yooge douchebag.

He just got that recently. If Twitter ever de-verifies him, the right wing screaming is going to be deafening. Let’s hope it’s soon - he’s just as much of an asshole as Milo, maybe even worse.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:47:39pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Twitter hasn’t specified a reason, but it could have been for any one of thousands of abusive tweets.

I found this piece on buzzfeed.com about his unverifing. The writer surmises that it may be the backlash from this tweet:

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:48:38pm

Fusing the topics together: Milo should paint his checkmark yellow, to match his sense of victimhood to his arrogance.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:49:30pm

re: #53 CuriousLurker

That was a good story to read. :)

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:49:33pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

He just got that recently. If Twitter ever de-verifies him, the right wing screaming is going to be deafening. Let’s hope it’s soon - he’s just as much of an asshole as Milo, maybe even worse.

Serious question.

Does anyone really care if a person has a blue check mark? They treat it as some sort of award or high honor?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:49:54pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

He just got that recently. If Twitter ever de-verifies him, the right wing screaming is going to be deafening. Let’s hope it’s soon - he’s just as much of an asshole as Milo, maybe even worse.

Ben & Milo are BFF’s which is kinda weird since Ben is always complaining about Anti-Semites.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:51:04pm

re: #60 b.d.

Serious question.

Does anyone really care if a person has a blue check mark? They treat it as some sort of award or high honor?

Blue checkmarked Twitter users get action on abuse complaints, non-blue-checkmarks are ignored by @support.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:51:21pm

re: #59 PhillyPretzel

That was a good story to read. :)

It was. Stories like that help you maintain your faith in humanity amid all the negative stuff swirling around.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:51:23pm

re: #60 b.d.

Serious question.

Does anyone really care if a person has a blue check mark? They treat it as some sort of award or high honor?

Some people apparently see it as a status symbol. It can be useful in some cases to know whether you’re looking at a real person’s account or an imposter.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:53:11pm

Have to make sure all Ben Shapiro content is the real thing or the mockery is less targeted.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:53:25pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

Blue checkmarked Twitter users get action on abuse complaints, non-blue-checkmarks are ignored by @support.

Not always - I’ve gotten action on more than a few of my abuse reports, for the douchebags who stalk me on the web 24/7. Just got another one of the cretins suspended for good, in fact.

But I’ve had to file multiple reports in each case before they take action.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:55:31pm

re: #65 jaunte

Have to make sure all Ben Shapiro content is the real thing or the mockery is less targeted.

If it makes sense, it’s an impostor.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:55:52pm

What’s the criteria for having a blue checkmark? Do you have to be some kind of celebrity?

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CuriousLurker  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:56:05pm

Well, I’m off to go mentally prepare for the work week, which is gonna start with a plumber coming to fix my kitchen sink between 8 am - 9 am, so I have to sleep early.

Later, lizards.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:58:23pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 4:58:55pm

re: #57 Dr. Matt

I found this piece on buzzfeed.com about his unverifing. The writer surmises that it may be the backlash from this tweet:

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Yeah that could do it, Milo has like 140,000 followers so telling them to harass someone is not a joke.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:04:31pm

Good stuff on the Sunday night intertubes:

Paul: Cruz eligibility may reach SCOTUS

thehill.com

I’m so old I remember when the Dems were the suicidal backstabbing ratfuckers.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:07:03pm

Speaking of Media Suckage, Gawker is all hurted cuz they got Borowitzed:

Believing the Fake ISIS Sean Penn Story Is Bad, But Andy Borowitz Is Worse

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ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:07:10pm

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

What’s the criteria for having a blue checkmark? Do you have to be some kind of celebrity?

support.twitter.com

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gocart mozart  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:10:22pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:10:54pm

Charles I gotta say it’s pretty fucking sad some of these E-list conservative nutbars have blue checkmarks and you don’t.

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:13:15pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:16:12pm

re: #77 b.d.

I know I said it earlier if these silly people had watched Ken Burns’ Nat’l Parks they would know that everyone in this country owns the nat’l parks.

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Jenner7  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:16:53pm

Cool. Good show.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:17:35pm
One can never be too safe
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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:18:44pm

re: #78 PhillyPretzel

I know I said it earlier if these silly people had watched Ken Burns’ Nat’l Parks they would know that everyone in this country owns the nat’l parks.

And if the US government didn’t own it then some rich dude would and there would be a Trump sized fence around the place, I think that they think that it should belong to them for some reason.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:19:47pm

re: #78 PhillyPretzel

I know I said it earlier if these silly people had watched Ken Burns’ Nat’l Parks they would know that everyone in this country owns the nat’l parks.

If they watched a lot of Ken Burns they would know who won the Civil War.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:20:57pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

If they watched a lot of Ken Burns they would know who won the Civil War.

PBS?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:21:29pm

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

Yes. PBS.

And right now I am watching Downton Abbey. :)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:21:54pm

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

PBS?

Sure as hell not the Hysterical Channel.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:21:56pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:22:43pm

re: #75 gocart mozart

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:23:05pm

re: #80 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

Not shown: The fact that those things are like a yard long and weigh five pounds. I’m comfortable with my own penis, thanks.

“The fastest way to make the salesman your enemy is to ask, ‘What’s it for?’ ” - Jeff Cooper, paraphrased, regarding gimmicky gee-whiz shit in the gun world.

Edit: And I say this as somebody who almost bought himself a 6” barrel S&W 686 Plus .357 for Christmas. I do like old-style revolvers. But that .50 shit is just too much.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:26:14pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:26:19pm

re: #87 Ace-o-aces

I really just want to air-drop that little shitgoblin into the middle of fucking Burma with nothing but a sharp stick and his own personal charm to survive with, to see if he makes it out.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:26:19pm

[whispering] I couldn’t possibly give less of a shit about the Golden Globe awards. [/whispering]

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:29:41pm

re: #80 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

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I’ve seen more of them on the used shelf than the new shelf. They all come with a box of 50 rounds with only 6 or 12 used for some reason O_o

Not shown but even stupider? The gold plated Desert Eagle in .50 Action Express…

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Jenner7  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:31:42pm

If it weren’t for Twitter, I wouldn’t have known they were on. lol

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:31:42pm

re: #80 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

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re: #92 William Lewis

I’ve seen more of them on the used shelf than the new shelf. They all come with a box of 50 rounds with only 6 or 12 used for some reason O_o

Not shown but even stupider? The gold plated Desert Eagle in .50 Action Express…

Because when the bears get armed, you’re going to need to be bearing this arm.

RBS

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:32:08pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I hate most industry award shows period.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:33:30pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:34:10pm
Not shown but even stupider? The gold plated Desert Eagle in .50 Action Express…

Is that the Desert Eagle with the tiger striped slide? I once saw the same gun for sale at a show back up north for four consecutive years - A Desert Eagle .50, gold plated, with darker-tone gold tiger striping down the slide. Even the tackiest Saudi sheikh would pass on that. And they must have, because nobody was buying it.

That was back at the beginning of the Barbie For Men gun market explosion though, early in the Iraq war period.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:36:25pm

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

PBS?

And Netflix. :)

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Lancelot Link  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:38:19pm

re: #96 Ace-o-aces

To Milo, Twitter taking back the little blue checkmark they gave him is just as bad as being murdered by religious extremists.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:39:25pm

If you refresh the page, we now have a custom tag to make text really, really tiny.

I’m not kidding. This is some tiny shit right here. We’re talking small. Really, really small. Micro-fucking-scopic.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:40:37pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Cool.

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b.d.  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:41:19pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

[whispering] I couldn’t possibly give less of a shit about the Golden Globe awards. [/whispering]

But you hardly ever get a chance to see that many Twitter blue checkmarked people together in a room together.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:41:31pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Is that for when you don’t want old people to be able to see your posts? :p

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:42:56pm

I don’t mind the awards. By all means do the awards, just don’t make a big fucking show out of it.

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makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:44:44pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

If you refresh the page, we now have a custom tag to make text really, really tiny.

I’m not kidding. This is some tiny shit right here. We’re talking small. Really, really small. Micro-fucking-scopic.

Ah, the ‘whispering’ tag. :)

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:44:55pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t mind the awards. By all means do the awards, just don’t make a big fucking show out of it.

Just like the Oscars, they drag the thing out with BS nobody cares about. They should be able to do the whole thing in less than 2 hours.

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gocart mozart  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:45:17pm

re: #96 Ace-o-aces

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:46:11pm

[small]WINGNUT SHOUTING FROM DOWN THE BLOCK[/small]

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:48:02pm

re: #107 gocart mozart

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:48:03pm

What happens if you combine a small and large custom tag?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:48:25pm

You get slightly larger text.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:49:11pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

You get slightly large text.

looks more like really big little text to me

RBS

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:49:30pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

What happens if you combine a small and large custom tag?

I wonder what the CSS rendering path must look like for that.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:49:49pm

I hate to burst your bubble, but I have: BIFOCALS!

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:52:38pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

I wonder what the CSS rendering path must look like for that.

would it make a difference what order you put the tags in?

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 5:54:13pm

re: #115 Reality Based Steve

would it make a difference what order you put the tags in?

RBS

Nope. You get the same text, 0.2em larger than the body text size.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:02:38pm
118
bratwurst  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:03:04pm

re: #40 Dr. Matt

BTW, why was @nero de-verified?

I got the impression it had something to do with playing Minecraft, but I am not sure. /

119
freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:05:13pm

Politifact revisits a formerly answered claim:

Donald Trump repeats wrong claim that prisoners swapped for Bergdahl are ‘back on the battlefield’

We looked into whether there were any new developments around the detainees, sometimes called the Taliban Five. The new information shows they’re still where they were last — in the Persian Gulf nation of Qatar under government supervision. So Trump is still wrong.

Ok, assuming Politifact is correct in this, how can any of Trump’s fellow Republican candidates not call him on such an obvious lie?

120
Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:06:55pm

re: #119 freetoken

Politifact revisits a formerly answered claim:

Donald Trump repeats wrong claim that prisoners swapped for Bergdahl are ‘back on the battlefield’

Ok, assuming Politifact is correct in this, how can any of Trump’s fellow Republican candidates not call him on such an obvious lie?

Because they all want to benefit politically from the same lie.

121
Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:08:17pm

re: #119 freetoken

Politifact revisits a formerly answered claim:

Donald Trump repeats wrong claim that prisoners swapped for Bergdahl are ‘back on the battlefield’

Ok, assuming Politifact is correct in this, how can any of Trump’s fellow Republican candidates not call him on such an obvious lie?

Show me one single Republican running for President who tells the truth. Just one. Can’t do it because every one of them lie. Every word out of A Republican Presidential candidate’s mouth is a lie including the “and’s” and “but’s”.

Even when they fart and belch, they lie.

122
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:08:32pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

He’s practically screaming: “Just ban me now you Twitter fucks!!”

123
Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:09:31pm

We’re waiting for Milo to do the James Brown Mock Faint as he does the Please Please!

124
freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:10:32pm

The latest NBC/WSJ poll also has Cruz ahead in Iowa:

maristpoll.marist.edu

This is now typical of polls in Iowa.

Remember a month ago, when Trump bombasted the Des Moines Register for showing the same thing in their poll?

Now Trump seems to avoid talking about Iowa polls.

125
Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:10:37pm
126
Great White Snark  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:10:56pm

Yup, the Revenant really looked this good. Frighteningly violent and yet crafted like few films ever.

127
Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:14:19pm
128
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:19:27pm

re: #124 freetoken

Unfortunately Iowa is a shitty bellwether. Trump is far from finished even if he loses there.

129
Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:25:11pm
130
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:25:55pm

re: #109 Ace-o-aces

131
I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:26:56pm
I studied nearly every word the Texas senator uttered during the immigration showdown. He may be the most spectacular liar ever to run for president.

From Slate

Do you really need to read the article to know this????

132
Jay C  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:40:00pm

re: #119 freetoken

Politifact revisits a formerly answered claim:

Donald Trump repeats wrong claim that prisoners swapped for Bergdahl are ‘back on the battlefield’

Ok, assuming Politifact is correct in this, how can any of Trump’s fellow Republican candidates not call him on such an obvious lie?

So does The Donald really think there’s all that much political mileage in slagging Bowe Bergdahl 24/7 like he does? He seems to make it a staple of his stump speech, but I really wonder how many people “out there” know who Bergdahl even is, or give a rat’s ass even if they do? *

* my guess is “minuscule” …

133
Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:45:36pm
134
Charles Johnson  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:53:17pm

What it feels like when a conservative star sics his flying monkeys on you:

The Matrix Reloaded (2/6) Movie CLIP - The Burly Brawl (2003) HD

135
thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:55:34pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

What it feels like when a conservative star sics his flying monkeys on you:

“Where’s Charles?”

“He’s doing his Superman thing again.”

136
451_Montag  Jan 10, 2016 • 6:58:07pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately Iowa is a shitty bellwether. Trump is far from finished even if he loses there.

But imagine how many people get to tweet “LOSER” at him. Comedy gold

137
ipsos  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:03:29pm

Question for Charles about this new micro-font thingy:

Can you make it small enough to accurately render the size of the male assets of, say, a typical #WhiteISIS yahoo?

138
Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:07:00pm

re: #137 ipsos

Question for Charles about this new micro-font thingy:

Can you make it small enough to accurately render the size of the male assets of, say, a typical #WhiteISIS yahoo?

I think we run into the problem of the actual size of the pixels on the display.

RBS

139
Belafon  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:07:26pm

re: #137 ipsos

Question for Charles about this new micro-font thingy:

Can you make it small enough to accurately render the size of the male assets of, say, a typical #WhiteISIS yahoo?

The first few letters [small]should be big, and then get small very quickly.[/small]

140
dholmes32  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:23:03pm

Well, the Mormon church has decided to double down on the “children of gays/lesbians can’t become members” by claiming it’s a revelation.

After same-sex marriage became legal in several countries, including the United States, the LDS Church’s top 15 leaders wrestled with what to do, weighed all the ramifications, fasted, prayed, met in the temple and sought God’s guidance on the issue.

Then Thomas S. Monson, considered a “prophet, seer and revelator” in the 15 million-member Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, declared “the mind of the Lord and the will of the Lord.”

That led to the Utah-based faith’s policy regarding same-sex Mormon couples — that they would labeled “apostates” and that their children would not be allowed baptism and other LDS religious rites until they turn age 18.

“Each of us during that sacred moment felt a spiritual confirmation,” Russell M. Nelson, head of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and next in line for the Mormon presidency, said Sunday night in a worldwide speech to the faith’s young adults. “It was our privilege as apostles to sustain what had been revealed to President Monson.”

sltrib.com

Basically, the leadership is telling the membership, “the prophet has spoken, now line up.” I’m hoping people keep in mind this policy was designed to hurt children. I’m so disgusted.

141
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:25:36pm

re: #140 dholmes32

How many people, upon turning 18, would be rushing to join an organization which has effectively told them to fuck off for the previous 17 years??

142
dholmes32  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:27:17pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

How many people, upon turning 18, would be rushing to join an organization which has effectively told them to fuck off for the previous 17 years??

A few, at least. The same rule has been in place for years for children from polygamist relationships. One of the “Sister Wives” daughters wanted to join the Mormon Church, but because she wouldn’t absolutely cut her father, mother and the other wives out of her life, she was denied. That is exactly what it means.

And, this is going to be hell on child custody cases in Utah. I just can’t even begin to predict what kind of a disaster this is going to be.

143
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:29:15pm

re: #142 dholmes32

But remember: these people are pro-LIFE

144
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:29:41pm

OT: is Lifelock as useless as I think it is??

145
Brian J.  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:30:13pm

re: #142 dholmes32

A few, at least. The same rule has been in place for years for children from polygamist relationships. One of the “Sister Wives” daughters wanted to join the Mormon Church, but because she wouldn’t absolutely cut her father, mother and the other wives out of her life, she was denied. That is exactly what it means.

And, this is going to be hell on child custody cases in Utah. I just can’t even begin to predict what kind of a disaster this is going to be.

If President Clinton 2: Electric Boogaloo gets Congress to pass an anti-discrimination law to prevent this sort of thing, expect the elders to suddenly have another revelation.

146
TedStriker  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:30:56pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: is Lifelock as useless as I think it is??

Yes…it’s pretty much a scam. They’ve been dinged by the FTC at least once or twice for their questionable ads and practices.

147
bratwurst  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:31:32pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: is Lifelock as useless as I think it is??

Not only useless, but frequently guilty of flat out lying about their service.

148
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:31:47pm

re: #145 Brian J.

If President Clinton 2: Electric Boogaloo gets Congress to pass an anti-discrimination law to prevent this sort of thing, expect the elders to suddenly have another revelation.

I don’t think the government can force churches to admit people as members.

149
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:32:31pm

re: #147 bratwurst

Not only useless, but frequently guilty of flat out lying about their service.

So my next logical question: Is there any kind of reputable alternative service?

150
Brian J.  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:32:35pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think the government can force churches to admit people as members.

No, but they can prevent the government from enacting sexually discriminatory legislation, and the LDS Church and Utah state government are essentially one and the same.

151
dholmes32  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:32:56pm

re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg

But remember: these people are pro-LIFE

The whole thing is simply despicable. Now that the marching orders have come down, we’re going to see all manner of foot dragging in the legal arena, and kids harassed at the elementary level on up because they don’t conform because of their gay and lesbian parents. I can’t even imagine what the newly installed lesbian mayor of Salt Lake City is thinking right now. She has an elementary-age child.

152
Belafon  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:33:11pm

re: #145 Brian J.

If President Clinton 2: Electric Boogaloo gets Congress to pass an anti-discrimination law to prevent this sort of thing, expect the elders to suddenly have another revelation.

The first amendment would prevent this from applying to churches, or for that matter any non-business/government organization.

153
Belafon  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:34:06pm

re: #150 Brian J.

No, but they can prevent the government from enacting sexually discriminatory legislation, and the LDS Church and Utah state government are essentially one and the same.

But they aren’t the same. It’s like if I ran a business. The government can make the company cater to all customers, but it can’t make me take them into my house.

154
teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:50:05pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

[whispering] I couldn’t possibly give less of a shit about the Golden Globe awards. [/whispering]

155
FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:52:41pm

“…The out-of-state legislators were Reps. Graham Hunt and Matt Shea of Washington; Reps. Judy Boyle, Heather Scott and Sage Dixon of Idaho; and Rep. Michelle Fiore of Nevada, who joined by telephone…”

156
Romantic Heretic  Jan 10, 2016 • 7:58:56pm

re: #80 Camacho DeezNuts 2016

[Embedded content]

Or those times you need an excuse to get off work and a broken wrist is perfect for that.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:01:07pm

re: #155 FormerDirtDart

Jerry DeLemus, 61, of Rochester, New Hampshire, arrived in Oregon last week to also help convince Bundy - son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy - and his band to give up the occupation. He is well acquainted with the Bundys, having assumed the role of commander of the private militia involved in the Nevada ranch standoff in 2014.

DeLemus said in an interview he has been to the refuge once to talk to Bundy and will continue efforts “to get him to pack his bags.”

He said he approached the Federal Bureau of Investigation in Burns as recently as Saturday to offer to be a mediator. “I think I can get this resolved,” he said, but the FBI so far hasn’t accepted his offer.

Hard to believe that the FBI wouldn’t trust someone who had men aiming sniper rifles at BLM personnel.

158
WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:03:10pm

re: #70 Eric The Fruit Bat

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ipsos  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:05:14pm

re: #157 jaunte

Isn’t DeLemus’ wife the state rep who Hillary wouldn’t call on in that Q&A last week because she was being obnoxious? Or am I confusing the names?

160
makeitstop  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:08:47pm

re: #159 ipsos

Isn’t DeLemus’ wife the state rep who Hillary wouldn’t call on in that Q&A last week because she was being obnoxious? Or am I confusing the names?

She’s the one who was in that Luntz focus group who got so angry while describing how Obama ‘goes on TV and lies to her!!!!11111!!’

Nutjob.

161
jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:09:44pm

re: #159 ipsos

Same name, I don’t know if it’s the same person.
npr.org

162
FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:10:36pm

re: #157 jaunte

Hard to believe that the FBI wouldn’t trust someone who had men aiming sniper rifles at BLM personnel.

Had pretty much the same thought.

Can’t see how anyone could any of the crap these yahoos are selling. It’s all a show, trying to mainstream the militias.
“See, we can be a valuable tool for the community”

163
jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:11:36pm

Looks like it’s the same guy:
washingtontimes.com

164
thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:11:54pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

Had pretty much the same thought.

Can’t see how anyone could any of the crap these yahoos are selling. It’s all a show, trying to mainstream the militias.
“See, we can be a valuable tool for the community”

Their value is debatable. Their status as tools, not so much.

165
FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:12:01pm

re: #160 makeitstop

She’s the one who was in that Luntz focus group who got so angry while describing how Obama ‘goes on TV and lies to her!!!!11111!!’

Nutjob.

Yeah, the elected official who was never involved in politics until Candidate Trump started running…

166
ipsos  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:15:00pm

re: #165 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, the elected official who was never involved in politics until Candidate Trump started running…

They both seem nice.

////////

167
teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:19:29pm
168
Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:19:43pm

Trump asked the cretins attendees at his rally today in Reno if Cruz was a NBC….

RENO, Nev. — After days of coyly raising questions about Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be president, given that he was born in Canada to an American mother and a Cuban father, Donald Trump let his audience weigh in at a rally Sunday afternoon.

“Is he a natural-born citizen?” the Republican White House hopeful asked several thousand gathered in a Reno ballroom. Members of the crowd shouted back, “No!”

“I don’t know,” Trump said. “Honestly, we don’t know. Who the hell knows.”

I don’t think that there is enough popcorn for this GOP campaign season. I”m just waiting for it to be raised at the upcoming debate.

I’ll need to stock up on Ginger Ale, popcorn makes me thirsty.

RBS

169
thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:20:19pm

re: #168 Reality Based Steve

Turning his Nirtherism on Ted Cruz? Oh, this is going to get good…

170
FormerDirtDart  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:23:24pm

Jeez, I really don’t need that image dancing around in my dreams…

171
ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:34:59pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

A.P. does that all the damn time, tweet says one thing but link goes to a different article. :(

Between that and the Bitly screen for their app you get before being allowed on to any article I’m about ready to unfollow.

172
jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:35:21pm
173
BillinGlendaleCA  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:35:36pm

re: #18 The Vicious Babushka

We ordered up some nice weather for ya.

174
ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:40:15pm
175
Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:53:33pm

re: #172 jaunte

[Embedded content]

What’s next? Someone dressed up like Stonewall Jackson????????

176
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:59:36pm

Whoever invented internet slideshows should be executed by firing squad.

177
BillinGlendaleCA  Jan 10, 2016 • 8:59:43pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Hey dude, ya wana get small?

[/late 70’s Steve Martin]

178
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:02:53pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Whoever invented internet slideshows should be executed by firing squad.

It was the latest Internet gimmick a few years back, then everyone jumped on the bandwagon and killed the appeal. I appreciate those sites that give you the option of seeing all the photos at once, instead of viewing the slideshow.

Much worse are the sites that reload THE ENTIRE FREAKING PAGE for each slide.

179
Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:04:49pm

KNOW YOUR BUNDYS!

Looks like Cliven is the big winner!
180
jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:05:14pm
181
Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:05:31pm

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It was the latest Internet gimmick a few years back, then everyone jumped on the bandwagon and killed the appeal. I appreciate those sites that give you the option of seeing all the photos at once, instead of viewing the slideshow.

Much worse are the sites that reload THE ENTIRE FREAKING PAGE for each slide.

My pet peeve are sites (especially e-commerce ones) that FORCE you to enter a password simply to be able to view the site. I may be interested in the things you have, but I’m not giving you an email account to view your store. I don’t ask people to show me an ID when they come into my store, don’t ask me to show one to go into yours.

/rant

RBS

182
jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:05:31pm
183
jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:05:54pm
184
jaunte  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:07:10pm

Former Alaska man sued for harassing federal employees with paperwork

The government has sued a former Alaska man for filing bogus financial documents seeking nearly $1 billion against Social Security Administration employees.

Trapper Killsmany, formerly of Manley Hot Springs, filed liens at the Alaska Department of Natural Resources Recorder’s Office in February and March. The February filing claimed two state agencies and seven federal employees owed him an undetermined amount of debt, and as such he was entitled to all their assets. The most recent lien went a step further, stating he is owed $950 million.

185
Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:08:41pm

re: #184 jaunte

Former Alaska man sued for harassing federal employees with paperwork

This is something a lot of employees at Social Security have to deal with—fucking idiotic “sovereign citizens” filing liens against them…

186
freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:08:41pm

re: #172 jaunte

See, it really is cosplay for middle-age white men.

187
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:09:04pm

re: #181 Reality Based Steve

My pet peeve are sites (especially e-commerce ones) that FORCE you to enter a password simply to be able to view the site. I may be interested in the things you have, but I’m not giving you an email account to view your store. I don’t ask people to show me an ID when they come into my store, don’t ask me to show one to go into yours.

/rant

RBS

The email collection gimmicks burn me up. No, webmaster, I really don’t want to hand out my email so you can spam me later on. Show me what you’ve got, and then we’ll talk.

188
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:11:02pm

re: #186 freetoken

See, it really is cosplay for middle-age white men.

Midlife crisis, writ large. They should just go out and buy a Harley or a sports car, or a badass 4-wheeler, instead of screwing up the lives of Harney County residents.

189
freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:11:10pm

re: #132 Jay C

So does The Donald really think there’s all that much political mileage in slagging Bowe Bergdahl 24/7 like he does? He seems to make it a staple of his stump speech, but I really wonder how many people “out there” know who Bergdahl even is, or give a rat’s ass even if they do? *

Remember, this is the same guy who constantly brings up Gen. MacArthur, and how we ought to fear the Japanese.

Either Trump fell out of a time warp, or he thinks his audience are reliving memories from their childhood 50 years ago.

190
Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:11:13pm

Gosh, the landline ringed again with another pollster asking who I will vote for in the Republican primary.

Once again, I lied and said I made my mind up for Trump…

These idiots are too stupid to request the voter registration files to see that I’m a registered Democrat…

191
freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:12:58pm

re: #190 Joe Bacon

You could really mess with them and answer “Gilmore”.

192
Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:16:37pm

re: #191 freetoken

You could really mess with them and answer “Gilmore”.

I’m leaning toward King Kong Bundy myself.

RBS

193
Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:20:19pm

re: #180 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I didn’t know that auditions were being held for The New Village People…

194
freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:21:00pm

re: #192 Reality Based Steve

I’m leaning toward King Kong Bundy myself.

RBS

America’s fine art:

King Kong Bundy vs Uncle Elmer, 1986

195
sagehen  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:28:43pm

For anybody in NYC, Kendrick Lamar’s episode of Austin City Limits starts in 5 minutes. For anybody not in NYC… it’s up on the PBS website.

196
Reality Based Steve  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:30:19pm

re: #194 freetoken

America’s fine art:

[Embedded content]

Video

Do you think we can get “Mean Gene” Okerlund out of retirement to do the commentary on the GOP debate this week?

RBS

197
ausador  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:31:52pm

Godwin???

198
teleskiguy  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:33:18pm

re: #197 ausador

Godwin???

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Joe Bacon  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:34:21pm

The moment we’ve all been waiting for…Will Dan Bidondi go to Oregon….

Naaah, he’s too chicken to show up…
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freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:34:31pm

re: #196 Reality Based Steve

Do you think we can get “Mean Gene” Okerlund out of retirement to do the commentary on the GOP debate this week?

If only.

Although I will readily deride much of American pop culture, I have a bit of admiration for both Okerlund and for Bobby Heenan. As far as American television goes I think both were delightful characters. Note how Heenan uses “limpet” in that video. He was always good at that sort of stuff. From my memory, so much of American television of the 70’s and 80’s left me unengaged, and both Okerlund and Heenan were far from the worst things on American television.

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freetoken  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:35:17pm

I will take this opportunity to point out that if you listen to the Trump intro video he plays at his rally, Trump includes the part where Vince McMahon is praising him on TV.

202
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2016 • 9:37:46pm

re: #200 freetoken

Heenan and Okerlund were indeed great. I used to love listening to Heenan on commentary alongside Gorilla Monsoon.

203
BadExampleMan  Jan 10, 2016 • 11:11:28pm

Holy shit, the BBC just reported that Bowie has died.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2016 • 3:56:44am

re: #197 ausador

Godwin???

[Embedded content]

Pretty useless. If we give a maniac the keys to the nuclear igloos, Hitler might be remembered as an also-ran. And we will be the Good Germans.


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