The Sad Tale of the Milo Yiannopoulos Blue Checkmark Tantrum

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The most idiotic news from Twitter this week concerns malevolent self-hating weirdo Milo Yiannopoulos and the calamity that befell him recently.

You see, the Gamergate-exploiting Breitbrat has been behaving badly on Twitter, harassing women and engaging in what Twitter calls “targeted abuse,” and on Friday last week, Twitter’s safety and security team decided it was time to remove his little blue checkmark, the sign that his account was “verified.” Note that Yiannopoulos wasn’t unverified because he’s a “conservative,” but because he’s a well-known and extremely blatant serial abuser of women on Twitter.

And one of the most massive tantrums ever witnessed on Twitter has ensued, as Yiannopoulos did his best to enlist his legions of Gamergate chowderheads to scream and yell at Twitter until they give him back his checkmark, in which he apparently stores his self-esteem.

According to this mob of idiots, Milo is being “censored,” although he’s still posting up a storm, ranting and whining and crying and complaining and boasting and posting pictures of himself taking showers (really), with thousands of tweets on the subject of his “censorship” and a total lack of self-awareness.

Apparently, the censorship Milo is experiencing doesn’t involve actually being, you know, censored.

His followers started using the hashtag #jesuismilo, imitating the hashtag #jesuischarlie which sprang up when the journalists of French satirical journal Charlie Hebdo were murdered in a terrorist attack. Nobody ever accused these morons of a sense of proportionality, not to mention simple human decency.

Here’s just one of the thousands of crazed tweets Milo has posted since Friday, to give you a sense of how utterly unhinged he’s become since losing his cherished checkmark.

And here’s another tweet he posted, attacking a female journalist who wrote about his meltdown and pointed out some of the awful things he’s put on Twitter.

Yes, he was directing his tens of thousands of crazed followers to harass her, and that’s exactly what happened after his tweet.

But the reason I’m writing this tonight is that Milo and his crackpot corps of swivel-eyed cretins have now crossed the threshold into a dimension of entitled lunacy so extreme and ridiculous it’s actually become quite hilarious.

Because now they’ve filed a petition at the White House website asking President Obama to issue a statement demanding the restoration of Milo Yiannopoulos’s Twitter verification badge. Yes, they really did this.

So far they’ve got about 1% of the signatures they need to get the White House to respond to their moronic petition. Maybe if they scream and cry and keep throwing tantrums for the rest of the month they’ll be able to get the other 99%. But I doubt it.

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537 comments

1
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:19:29pm

People care about this goofball enough to like… Read what he posts?

Really?

Twitter, giving voice to the Useless.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:20:16pm

re: #1 Pawn of the Oppressor

People care about this goofball enough to like… Read what he posts?

Really?

Twitter, giving voice to the Useless.

Isn’t it more like Twitter giving voice to the Twits?

3
Jebediah, RBG  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:20:33pm

Maybe he and Rage Furby can pool their resources and sue. That is a complaint I would like to read.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:21:08pm

To watch a grown man and his followers throw a shit fit over something as patently ridiculous as a blue checkmark is a sad commentary on the state of the Internet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:21:32pm

What does it take to get a Twitter “verified” account? Minor celebrity status?

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Kragar  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:21:38pm

So people who routinely rant about the President overstepping his authority want him to step in and instruct a privately owned and operated business to change the way they work for a single user?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:22:02pm

WHUT

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:22:14pm

The best part of this whole brouhaha is that both the pink poofter and the Rage Furby when he got the permanent mallet of loving correction used their incidents as the gospel proof that because these incidents occurred caused a huge loss of market value to Twitter stock.

Seriously.

These wunderkind’s seems to have never grasped the concept that correlation does not mean causation.

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b.d.  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:22:18pm

The party of personal responsibility strikes again.

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:22:57pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:23:06pm

This Milo Y. idiot could go places in GOP politics in 15 years or so.

Meanwhile, I hope Twitter goes for a complete ban. This tantrum alone should more than suffice.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:24:07pm

re: #10 gocart mozart

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The constitution, how does it work?

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b.d.  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:24:09pm

re: #1 Pawn of the Oppressor

People care about this goofball enough to like… Read what he posts?

Really?

Twitter, giving voice to the Useless.

It’s not like he just isn’t another cookie-cutter, talking point spewing, aping wingnut that isn’t replaceable in two seconds, his only catch is that he claims to be gay

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:27:41pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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I’m shocked. She’s not complaining about criticism of guns.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:27:42pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

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darthstar  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:28:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:28:42pm

re: #1 Pawn of the Oppressor

People care about this goofball enough to like… Read what he posts?

Really?

Unfortunately, they really do. He has more than 140,000 followers on Twitter.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:31:03pm

Gosh, I’m waiting for the Million Milo March when the White House refuses to have Twitter give ol’ Marsupial Face his blue check mark back!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:31:27pm
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b.d.  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:32:59pm

re: #8 Eric The Fruit Bat

The best part of this whole brouhaha is that both the pink poofter and the Rage Furby when he got permanent mallet of loving correction used their incidents as the gospel proof that because these incidents occurred caused a huge loss of market value to Twitter stock.

Seriously.

These wunderkind’s seems to have never grasped the concept that correlation does not mean causation.

Help me out.

Milo is claiming that his maltreatment is part of the reason of the Twitter stock collapse (never mind the rest of the market of late).

Milo is cheering Twitter’s fall while simultaneously demanding that have his Twitter crown put back upon his head so he can be a big shot at the place that he hates so much and constantly lives in?

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:33:36pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:33:46pm
Because now they’ve filed a petition at the White House website asking President Obama to issue a statement demanding the restoration of Milo Yiannopoulos’s Twitter verification badge.
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:34:42pm

If I were Twitter I would give him the checkmark back then suspend him one day later.

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Kragar  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:35:04pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:35:37pm

re: #24 Kragar

BB Crew sounds like some lame rap act from 1993.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:37:34pm

Felt, with the stuff I learned about Capaldi and his attempt to get Bowie on Doctor Who, I needed to change my nic.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:37:50pm

re: #18 Joe Bacon

Gosh, I’m waiting for the Million Milo March when the White House refuses to have Twitter give ol’ Marsupial Face his blue check mark back!

Combine the Bundy and Milo petitions. Demand that the White House have Task Force 160 drop Milo into Malheur by fastrope.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:38:05pm

re: #26 StardustTARDIS

Felt, with the stuff I learned about Capaldi and his attempt to get Bowie on Doctor Who, I needed to change my nic.

Oh my, Bowie on Dr. Who would have been amazing.

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:38:35pm

Kinda had my say earlier, but gotta say really astounded at what kind of sheer cretin can garner so many followers.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:39:04pm

re: #28 Eclectic Cyborg

He was trying for it. Now, we will never know what that would have been like.

Hopefully, we get a Tribute Episode.

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A Cranky One  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:39:25pm

re: #29 Great White Snark

Kinda had my say earlier, but gotta say really astounded at what kind of sheer cretin can garner so many followers.

See Trump: Donald

/wish it was snark

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Joe Bacon  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:39:37pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

Combine the Bundy and Milo petitions. Demand that the White House have Task Force 160 drop Milo into Malheur by fastrope.

Milo sings “It’s Raining Men” as he’s dropped into Bundyland…

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:39:51pm

re: #24 Kragar

This whole Nero thing is about to get a whole lot dumber as the rest of the BB crew starts chiming in

Just one example from that call and response:

No, Twitter is not a paper company.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:39:57pm

So many wingnut whiners, so little time.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:40:09pm

Link takes you to Harney Co. Sheriff emergency message board where you can download the statement as a document.
Or:

and for easier reading: Image 1, Image 2, Image 3, Image 4

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:40:43pm

As most of you know I’m a poet. Bowie’s death has got my creative juices going and I’ve given some consideration to putting together a poetry “album”. Essentially 16 poems, combined with original graphics and illustrations, focused on a centralized theme. I figure to test the waters I’d sell it for like 2.99 on Amazon.

Does anyone here think they’d be interested in such a thing?

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Kragar  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:42:10pm

Dying here.

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ausador  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:42:38pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

What does it take to get a Twitter “verified” account? Minor celebrity status?

It is invitation only you can’t apply, Twitter picks athletes, artists, musicians, reporters, pundits, politicians, etc, etc…

They say that number of followers does not matter, just that the person is known in their field.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:42:41pm
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scottslemmons  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:44:22pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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IOW, Dana knows that her abusive posts could one day see her getting zapped, too. Monsters gotta stick up for their fellow monsters, ya know.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:44:50pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:46:42pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

WHUT

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:48:17pm

Milo always acts like a little shithead. Not surprised that Twitter had enough of it. People like Chuck, Dana, Milo think that Twitter is their personal playground where they can harass people at will without repercussions.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:48:37pm

re: #33 jaunte

Just one example from that call and response:

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No, Twitter is not a paper company.

This is apparently going to be the next absurdly stupid right wing argument - that companies like Twitter are obligated by the 1st Amendment to the Constitution to let them spew as much hatred and abuse as they want.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:49:39pm

re: #33 jaunte

Just one example from that call and response:

[Embedded content]

No, Twitter is not a paper company.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:51:21pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

This is apparently going to be the next absurdly stupid right wing argument - that companies like Twitter are obligated by the 1st Amendment to the Constitution to let them spew as much hatred and abuse as they want.

So they are advocating for a government takeover of Twitter?

/

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:52:12pm

re: #20 b.d.

That’s pretty close-his minions definitely are running with it for sure and gleefully brought it to his ragegy attention.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:53:06pm

re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg

So they are advocating for a government takeover of Twitter?

/

Just a Federal Department of Blue Checkmarks. Anything else would be over-reaching, and you know the right just doesn’t over-reach.

RBS

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:53:11pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

This is apparently going to be the next absurdly stupid right wing argument - that companies like Twitter are obligated by the 1st Amendment to the Constitution to let them spew as much hatred and abuse as they want.

They get confused over a basic concept and it just spins out of control. Start by confusing 1st amendment protections against government suppression of speech for something that says what business can do, and you’ll reach some really bizarre conclusions.

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:53:29pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Thanks again for a great forum, renewed way early by way of a contribution.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:54:11pm

EW, just EW

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:55:22pm

The first amendment is not a license to say whatever the hell you want with no consequences. I can’t show up for work wearing a t-shirt with obscene language directed at Republicans. Now where my free speech is protected is that the government can’t jail me for that. But a private entity is allowed to do decide. Milo does NOT have the right to Twitter. Twitter is a privilege. These little shitheads think they can act as hateful and threaten people and that there shouldn’t be any consequences. .

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:55:29pm

“The paper is violating my free speech rights! They won’t print my raging, abusive letter encouraging my followers to mob my enemies.”

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Dave In Austin  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:55:37pm

Rick Snyder is s a piece of shit and needs to be arrested.

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scottslemmons  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:55:42pm

re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg

So they are advocating for a government takeover of Twitter?

/

It’s how they intend to run the government if they’re ever allowed into power again. They don’t want small government; they want tyranny, as long as they’re the tyrants.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:55:57pm

I’ve read today that, when asked, both Reince Priebus and Mitch McConnell have said they, and institutions they lead, will be staying out of whether Cruz is a natural born citizen. Considering that in 2008 the Senate unanimously confirmed that McCain was natural born, it seems that a lot of people want to make it as hard as possible on Cruz.

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A Cranky One  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:56:04pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart

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and for easier reading: Image 1, Image 2, Image 3, Image 4

So the Patritos are terrorizing the area. Is it still too soon to call them terrorists, MSM?

Unreal.

One aspect of this affair that I’ve been thinking about lately: the fact that the Patritos are heavily armed delays any government response. With the proliferation of guns in the country, will LEOs become more and more reluctant to enforce the law because the suspect is openly armed? Or worse, use deadly force immediately against any suspect carrying a weapon, legally or not?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:56:39pm

re: #51 FormerDirtDart

EW, just EW

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I wasn’t aware he was divorced from his current wife. Poor Mick, he’s got second Rupert germs. Rupert Murdoch is one disgusting bugger.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:56:59pm

re: #51 FormerDirtDart

EW, just EW

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He’s just getting back at his liberal offspring.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:57:24pm

re: #56 Belafon

I’ve read today that, when asked, both Reince Priebus and Mitch McConnell have said they, and institutions they lead, will be staying out of whether Cruz is a natural born citizen. Considering that in 2008 the Senate unanimously confirmed that McCain was natural born, it seems that a lot of people want to make it as hard as possible on Cruz.

I think it really shows you how much the GOP establishment detests Cruz. Honestly, the whole thing I find amusing as hell.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:57:43pm

re: #50 Great White Snark

Renewed your subscription until July ‘17. Thank you sincerely for your support!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:58:05pm

When you’ve got a few minutes to spare, you might want to check out this audio skit by the Rifftrax (mostly former MST3K) crew, big David Bowie fans all, riffing a certain line in Bowie’s “Space Oddity” a couple of years ago. Quite silly.

rifftraxmike.tumblr.com

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:58:13pm

re: #57 A Cranky One

So the Patritos are terrorizing the area. Is it still too soon to call them terrorists, MSM?

Unreal.

One aspect of this affair that I’ve been thinking about lately: the fact that the Patritos are heavily armed delays any government response. With the proliferation of guns in the country, will LEOs become more and more reluctant to enforce the law because the suspect is openly armed? Or worse, use deadly force immediately against any suspect carrying a weapon, legally or not?

I saw an interesting question: Is the DHS equipped to handle a large armed standoff and siege?

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Kragar  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:58:27pm

re: #56 Belafon

Republicans Lining Up To Punch Foreigner Ted Cruz Right In His Poutine Curds

If there is a clearer way of saying “Fuck you, Ted Cruz,” we have never seen it. And we practically invented saying “Fuck You, Ted Cruz.” Sure, the Senate was willing to rally around Panamanian-American John McCain — not exactly known for being unanimously loved by his colleagues either — to put to rest any silly birther questions. But even McCain thinks Cruz’s eligibility is a totally fair question because fuck you, Ted Cruz.

Isn’t there anyone, besides Hispanic-American Iowa Rep. Steve King (R-WTF?), willing to have Cruz’s back? He has Ivy League lawsplained it until he’s blue in the face; he has even released his mother’s birth certificate (though not the original long-form one, so haha, totally doesn’t count). Won’t someone from the Republican establishment Cruz has made a point of running against stand up for Cruz? Reince Priebus, head of the Republican National Committee, maybe?

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 11, 2016 • 6:58:30pm

Well, I’m going to watch a fairly recent documentary on Hood and the Bismark. Don’t anybody tell me how it ends.

RBS

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:00:13pm

re: #62 De Kolta Chair

Just found out, Bowie was almost Sharaz Jek in Caves of Androzani, the last episode of the 5th Doctor.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:00:34pm

re: #51 FormerDirtDart

Thankfully, there won’t be any spawn from this union unless there’s some purchased eggs a-lurking.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:01:52pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:04:16pm

re: #38 ausador

It is invitation only you can’t apply, Twitter picks athletes, artists, musicians, reporters, pundits, politicians, etc, etc…

They say that number of followers does not matter, just that the person is known in their field.

And in Milo’s case, what field would that be? The field of being a yooge asshole?

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:04:51pm

re: #56 Belafon

I’ve read today that, when asked, both Reince Priebus and Mitch McConnell have said they, and institutions they lead, will be staying out of whether Cruz is a natural born citizen. Considering that in 2008 the Senate unanimously confirmed that McCain was natural born, it seems that a lot of people want to make it as hard as possible on Cruz.

That’s the part of these guys I worry about the most. Self declared advocates of constitutional laws and ideals only until merely inconvenient. They don’t bend a little when lives are at stake. They break in two when ego or greed is just trifled with. Just look at Trump having a guy that called him boring escorted out quite briskly and if not forcefully certainly with added momentum from two rented guards.

Screw that a check and balance/due process system only protects us when unmolested.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:05:39pm

re: #66 StardustTARDIS

Just found out, Bowie was almost Sharaz Jek in Caves of Androzani, the last episode of the 5th Doctor.

That would have been superbad! I just read he was offered the villain role in a Roger Moore James Bond flick that eventually went to Christopher Walken. Supposedly he turned it down because he “didn’t want to spend six months watching my stunt double falling off a cliff,” or words of that effect.

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:07:05pm
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ipsos  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:08:16pm

re: #72 gocart mozart

Dana Muhgunz actually does research for her books?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:09:30pm

re: #40 scottslemmons

IOW, Dana knows that her abusive posts could one day see her getting zapped, too. Monsters gotta stick up for their fellow monsters, ya know.

But she gets really outraged if someone send her a mean Tweet.

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Kragar  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:11:39pm

re: #73 ipsos

Dana Muhgunz actually does research for her books?

No, she was researching how to stand up in whatever ludicrous getup they cram her into for the cover photo

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scottslemmons  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:12:29pm

Hell, Bowie was Pontius Pilate, he was Andy Warhol, he was Nikolai Tesla, he was the leader of the Guild of Calamitous Intent, he inspired two different comic-book versions of Lucifer — even outside of music, he had the coolest career around…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:13:14pm

So apparently, Bowie did a movie in the 70s called The Man Who Fell to Earth.

Has anyone seen it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:13:26pm

re: #76 scottslemmons

He was also the Gremlin King. :P

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KingKenrod  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:13:32pm

Speaking of the Guild, Venture Bros. are back in 3 weeks (Jan 31).

The Venture Bros. Season 5 Recap | The Venture Bros. | Adult Swim

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KingKenrod  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:15:03pm

re: #77 StardustTARDIS

So apparently, Bowie did a movie in the 70s called The Man Who Fell to Earth.

Has anyone seen it?

I have seen it many times. :)

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:15:09pm

re: #77 StardustTARDIS

So apparently, Bowie did a movie in the 70s called The Man Who Fell to Earth.

Has anyone seen it?

Yes, a guilty favorite of mine. First watched it as a fan of the book, but Bowie brought more dimension to the character than the author did. IMO anyway. I’m hoping for a screening somewhere near, never saw it in the theater.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:15:15pm

re: #76 scottslemmons

Still a bit sad that Capaldi won’t get his wish.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:16:21pm

I’m off to bed. Here I am as an 18 year old in 1982 doing my best Bowie as the singer. It’s not great, but it wasn’t for a lack of trying:

martyrs 82 - rebel rebel.wmv

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:17:13pm

He looks creepy.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:18:32pm

Yoshitaka Amano, one of the original artists for the Final Fantasy Series, has done a tribute to Bowie, at some point.

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Kragar  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:18:39pm

Bowies in Space by Flight of the Conchords

Flight of the Conchords Ep 6 Bowie’s In Space

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:20:25pm

Grifting won’t get you a place at the grownup’s debate, Rand.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:20:53pm

re: #77 StardustTARDIS

So apparently, Bowie did a movie in the 70s called The Man Who Fell to Earth.

Has anyone seen it?

One of the best movies of that decade, and the 70’s saw a lot of great movies. A major studio wouldn’t go near it today.

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:21:24pm

Trailer for the Man Who Fell to EarthVideo

IMDB

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:21:26pm

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

Grifting won’t get you a place at the grownup’s debate, Rand.

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You realize, you are calling Trump vs. everybody as “grownup”?

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:22:14pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:24:27pm

re: #56 Belafon

I’ve read today that, when asked, both Reince Priebus and Mitch McConnell have said they, and institutions they lead, will be staying out of whether Cruz is a natural born citizen. Considering that in 2008 the Senate unanimously confirmed that McCain was natural born, it seems that a lot of people want to make it as hard as possible on Cruz.

Assholes shouldn’t expect the people they shit all over to come running to their aid.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:24:37pm

re: #90 freetoken

You realize, you are calling Trump vs. everybody as “grownup”?

OK the “primetime” debate.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:24:45pm

Sad little Jon Ritzheimer isn’t happy with people sending the YallQaeda clan dildos and bags of gummy dicks

“…Rather than going out and doing good, they just spend all their money on hate, and hate, and hate…”

Yeah

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:25:06pm

re: #92 Big Beautiful Door

Assholes shouldn’t expect the people they shit all over to come running to their aid.

I am so stealing that to Tweet.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:26:13pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:26:15pm

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

A lot of times I sing along in the car and the radio isn’t too loud so it’s easy to get along with the tune. Slate posted a vocal only version of Under Pressure. I like them because you hear the song differently without all the competition from the other musicians. Problem is I get blown out by the pros! The 2:00 mark did me in.
Under Pressure (A-Capella) - Only Vocals

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:26:43pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart

He cleared that table off very dramatically. Sort of.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:26:51pm

I would love to see a White House response. It would be somewhere along the line of “what the fuck is wrong with you?”, but much more tactful.

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:26:58pm

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

OK the “primetime” debate.

The main event:

Michael Buffer: Let’s Get Ready To Rumble!! Starrcade 97

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ausador  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:27:21pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

And in Milo’s case, what field would that be? The field of being a yooge asshole?

UK correspondent/pundit for Breitbart, he is lucky he got one in the first place. Many more deserving people haven’t.

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Kragar  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:27:31pm
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ipsos  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:28:54pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart

Will SOMEONE please explain to me, amidst all the rationalization of letting these people commit open treason against our nation’s government, stealing our commonly-owned property for their own purposes….why the hell are they still being allowed to receive mail delivery at the Burns PO?

What in the hell is going ON there?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:29:11pm

LOL all 4 of them?

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:29:40pm

Have I ever said that the WaPo headline writers make my ass tired?

Obama’s last State of the Union will try to counter electorate’s anger

I don’t know about you, but I’m not particularly angry. Certainly not at President Obama. Not even at my fellow Americans, stupid as they can be at times. Occasionally some idiot will get my anger up, but that’s just part of life.

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:30:34pm

Bowie as Warhol
Basquiat & Warhol

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:31:28pm

Also David Bowie’s part in Basquiat Part 2

Is Saddle River in New York or New Jersey?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:32:08pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:32:52pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:32:58pm

re: #95 The Vicious Babushka

Be my guest!

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:35:13pm

Oh, those sweet, innocent, Millennials…

Millennials Want to See a Trump vs. Sanders Matchup

[…]

A new survey of 18-to-34-year-olds found that if the Democratic primary were held today, 46% of millennials would vote for Sanders, while 35% would back Hillary Clinton—a shift from national polls, which give Clinton a more than 10-point lead over Sanders. In a Republican primary, Trump would win the votes of 26% of millennials, the survey found, followed by Ben Carson at 11%, a better showing than the retired doctor is currently seeing in national polls.

[…]

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:37:10pm

re: #111 freetoken

IIRC, millenials don’t vote.

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:38:01pm

Trump jabs Cruz by playing ‘Born in the U.S.A.’ at rallies

Doesn’t Springsteen still own the rights to the song? I wonder what he thinks.

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:38:53pm

re: #112 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

IIRC, millenials don’t vote.

According to the story, 60% of them plan to vote. In 2008, 51% of the age group under 35 turned out.

It’s the midterm elections which they don’t care about.

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worldknot  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:39:17pm

Where the fuck did Monday go?

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Cheechako  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:39:27pm

re: #99 GlutenFreeJesus

I would love to see a White House response. It would be somewhere along the line of “what the fuck is wrong with you?”, but much more tactful.

Sent from their verified twitter account.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:39:31pm

re: #112 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

IIRC, millenials don’t vote.

Can confirm, am a millenial, have never voted.

//////

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:39:36pm

re: #81 Great White Snark

Yes, a guilty favorite of mine. First watched it as a fan of the book, but Bowie brought more dimension to the character than the author did. IMO anyway. I’m hoping for a screening somewhere near, never saw it in the theater.

I like the spacey (pardon the pun) mood set by director Nicholas Roeg, but Bowie’s performance really made that flick, and Candy Clark being so underrated as an actor is an international show biz disgrace!!!

119
FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:39:59pm

Poppa Cliven doesn’t pay his government bills, why would anyone expect his grifting son to?

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:40:13pm

Reporting from Burns (OR) community meeting going on now:

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:40:33pm

re: #114 freetoken

According to the story, 60% of them plan to vote. In 2008, 51% of the age group under 35 turned out.

It’s the midterm elections which they don’t care about.

Right but that’s still a demographic that Hilary needs to work on. Lest her primary be a close one.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:41:30pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart

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Finally Santilli got his ass kicked! Wonderful!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:42:18pm

As a Yankee, am I supposed to care who wins or loses this game?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:43:06pm

re: #122 Joe Bacon

Finally Santilli got his ass kicked! Wonderful!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:43:18pm

re: #123 De Kolta Chair

As a Yankee, am I supposed to care who wins or loses this game?

Well yes, you can root for either San Jose or Florida against the evil Canadians.

Oh, you mean there’s another game on?

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:44:10pm
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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:44:43pm

re: #121 Great White Snark

Right but that’s still a demographic that Hilary needs to work on. Lest her primary be a close one.

Today’s polls shows Sanders beating her in NH, and Hillary has a very small lead in Iowa.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:45:54pm

re: #119 FormerDirtDart

Poppa Cliven doesn’t pay his government bills, why would anyone expect his grifting son to?

In lieu of snacks, Pete Santilli asks that supporters send him steroids. Lots and lots of those huge bottles of ‘roids you see in the window of GNC.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:46:38pm

re: #113 freetoken

Why wouldn’t he choose a song already associated with someone who makes racist statements?

Beavis Butthead Watch Rick Derringer Hulk Hogan - Real American

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:47:31pm

re: #127 freetoken

Today’s polls shows Sanders beating her in NH, and Hillary has a very small lead in Iowa.

I think she prepared for a tough primary fight. Cautious, methodical process. I don’t think she expected a close one. Nor did the big donor base.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:49:51pm

re: #121 Great White Snark

Right but that’s still a demographic that Hilary needs to work on. Lest her primary be a close one.

It won’t be close. The Clintons have inherited Obama’s ground game GOTV infrastructure, along with their own expertise.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:50:16pm

re: #127 freetoken

Today’s polls shows Sanders beating her in NH, and Hillary has a very small lead in Iowa.

A month or two ago I posted some criticisms of Hillary Clinton that were not very well received. Quite rudely, in fact. Clinton had better not be on her way to blowing another Presidential campaign, because there’s no way in hell Bernie Sanders beats a Republican candidate.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:53:26pm

re: #79 KingKenrod
Good thing I got my Home Server and my HTPC back up and operational. This ought to be good. And they did mention Bowie.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:54:26pm

re: #77 Ziggy_TARDIS

Watched it in a drive in. Definitely was out there.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:54:30pm

Community meeting attendees (residents only) being given 60 seconds each to speak:

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:55:09pm

re: #132 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Well, way back in 2007 and 2008 I was posting here that I thought that Clinton would beat Obama, given the Clinton machine.

I was wrong. I underestimated Obama’s appeal to young people.

So this time around I don’t know what to think.

To me the Clintons come with so much baggage that I think it has not been wise for so many Democratic operatives to have been pushing Hillary for the past couple of years.

Sure, any of the Republicans still in the race are worse, I think, for the job (though in theory both Bush and Kasich ought to have been good choices in their own ways), than Hillary, but I am out of touch with some large fraction of my society.

I don’t really grok 25 year olds today.

I also find it hard to understand the 65 year olds voting for candidates who want to end their social security and medicare/medicaid. But some do.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:57:37pm
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Reality Based Steve  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:57:44pm

Well I’m off to bed. I’ve had a very lazy weekend / monday (work Saturday, Monday is my day off). Didn’t accomplish much at all, and I’m pretty comfortable with that.

See ya all later.

RBS

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2016 • 7:59:57pm

re: #127 freetoken

Today’s polls shows Sanders beating her in NH, and Hillary has a very small lead in Iowa.

NH doesn’t mean as much to Clinton as Sanders. He has to win it. Were he to lose that, it would be over for him.

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lockjawcanbefun  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:00:28pm

Ladies and germs, Canada’s version of Donald Trump. Just as much smarm, but thankfully not running for office.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:00:34pm

re: #136 freetoken

I’ve been checking out the Clinton campaign’s social media activities lately, and they’re most definitely targeting the yutz vote, or what an old fart like me considers the yutz (forty and under).

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danarchy  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:01:43pm

re: #136 freetoken

I also find it hard to understand the 65 year olds voting for candidates who want to end their social security and medicare/medicaid. But some do.

That’s the trick isn’t it? There isn’t a single candidate that says they would change social security or medicare for people who are already 65. There is always that caveat that the changes wont affect people who are already at or close to retirement, so it dovetails well with the “I’ve got mine” attitude.

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bratwurst  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:04:40pm

To repeat myself from earlier today (because it is happening again):

This time last year people right of center were “concerned” Hillary had no competition.

Now that she has competition in two small demographically atypical states, they are also “concerned”.

Go figure.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:05:22pm

Awwwww

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:05:40pm

re: #140 lockjawcanbefun

Ladies and germs, Canada’s version of Donald Trump. Just as much smarm, but thankfully not running for office.

$1 million? You can’t buy a city councilperson for that in the states. So, what’s the average income for Canada’s 1%, $25,000? ////

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:06:07pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

No one will buy his screenplay.

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ipsos  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:11:35pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

Awww…he lost his blue checkmark, too?

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Jenner7  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:11:40pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:14:33pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well yes, you can root for either San Jose or Florida against the evil Canadians.

Oh, you mean there’s another game on?

Is it true that in Canada hockey is called football? Asking for a friend.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:14:35pm

re: #148 Jenner7

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Troll level: epic

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:15:12pm

CNN and Anderson Cooper. I used to like that guy. Now having legal experts on about the Cruz birther thing. Is it not completely obvious Trump is playing it forward against charges of racism from Hilary supporters on his birther crap in the general? Srsly? You don’t need legal experts you only need political experts to parse all this.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:18:13pm

re: #148 Jenner7

///

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:19:27pm

re: #76 scottslemmons

Hell, Bowie was Pontius Pilate, he was Andy Warhol, he was Nikolai Tesla, he was the leader of the Guild of Calamitous Intent, he inspired two different comic-book versions of Lucifer — even outside of music, he had the coolest career around…

Don’t forget the video game he starred in and scored the music for.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:22:20pm

re: #151 Great White Snark

Ah, Trump went all in on Cruz with the Birther shit and I’m enjoying every second of it!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:24:37pm

I’m taking bets on when Trump disses Copernicus and the crowd roars its approval.

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bratwurst  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:30:14pm

A formerly respectable magazine that is now mostly garbage is also doing some Hillary concern trolling:

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worldknot  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:30:43pm

re: #155 De Kolta Chair

I’m taking bets on when Trump disses Copernicus and the crowd roars its approval.

They wouldn’t know who he is.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:31:32pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:32:20pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:32:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:33:21pm

re: #154 Joe Bacon

Ah, Trump went all in on Cruz with the Birther shit and I’m enjoying every second of it!

Dude’s just burning every bridge in sight.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:34:22pm
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LadyBehir  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:34:49pm

I don’t know if this will work but this link is an amazing tribute to David Bowie.

Facebook Post

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:35:34pm

First food in 2 days. Chicken broth.

I caught a horrible stomach bug.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:37:49pm

Though I couldn’t care less about either of the teams, I gotta admit the Alabama-Clemson game is exciting. Does anybody know how much the players are getting paid?

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:38:13pm

This made its way into my social media. I thought it was funny.

Feel The Leg Bern!
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Jenner7  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:39:06pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea Toujours

Yucky. Hope you get to feelin’ better.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:39:49pm

re: #166 teleskiguy

This made its way into my social media. I thought it was funny.

“Needz moar guns.” — The Clinton campaign

(And that graphic made me chuckle)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:42:09pm

re: #163 LadyBehir

I don’t know if this will work but this link is an amazing tribute to David Bowie.

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If I were on a spacecraft and one of my fellow crewmembers started singing “Major Tom”, I think we’d have a zero-G brawl right about now.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:42:15pm

re: #167 Jenner7

Yucky. Hope you get to feelin’ better.

Thanks, I’m going to hot shower & go back to the cocoon.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:42:41pm

U.S. bombs ‘millions’ in ISIS currency holdings

In an extremely unusual airstrike, the U.S. dropped bombs Sunday in central Mosul, Iraq, destroying a building containing huge amounts of cash ISIS was using to pay its troops and for ongoing operations, two U.S. defense officials told CNN.

The officials could not say exactly how much money was there or in what currency, but one described it as “millions.”

Two 2,000-pound bombs destroyed the site quickly. But the longstanding impact may be even more significant. The officials said the U.S. plans to strike more financial targets like this one to take away ISIS’s ability to function as a state-like entity.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:43:34pm

re: #158 jaunte

Michael Oman-Reagan @OmanReagan

The irony of this phrase considering the “Committee of Safety” was created in secret by 40 people and Bundy

The Koch’s deserve some of the credit. Won’t anyone think of the Koch’s???

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:43:43pm

re: #171 jaunte

U.S. bombs ‘millions’ in ISIS currency holdings

Talk about a hit to the wallet.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:44:32pm

re: #171 jaunte

That’s a great idea.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:45:17pm

re: #173 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Talk about a hit to the wallet.

Why does Obama hate money??11!!!

(I’m using a different computer than usual. Does anyone have the wingnut font code?)

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:45:18pm

On the commute today, the local rock station played wall-to-wall David Bowie. It’s staggering how much good hooky music the man created. Staggering.

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:45:48pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea Toujours

First food in 2 days. Chicken broth.

I caught a horrible stomach bug.

Oh ouch get well fast!

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:48:19pm

re: #156 bratwurst

A formerly respectable magazine that is now mostly garbage is also doing some Hillary concern trolling:

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Literally the same argument Hillary and her team tried to use against Obama in 2008. I see Bernie and his team repeating a lot of Hillary’s old failed tactics, they’re the new PUMA’s, good with threats and condescension while offering simplistic answers to intrinsically complex problems.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:49:22pm

re: #176 teleskiguy

Philadelphia has 3 stations that did it. One of them kept playing the same half dozen songs all day (our cliche rock station). Another one did it in bursts but included a lot of stories and interviews. A third one played solid Bowie.

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:49:38pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:50:30pm

re: #85 Ziggy_TARDIS

Yoshitaka Amano, one of the original artists for the Final Fantasy Series, has done a tribute to Bowie, at some point.

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yoshitaka-amano.kouryu.info

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:50:50pm

re: #179 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The station I was listening to delved pretty deep in his catalog. They even played Blackstar in its entirety.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:52:10pm

re: #178 goddamnedfrank

I feel the same way about Sanders. My issue is that Clinton is simply not a strong politician. A primary fight will not make her come out stronger.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:54:09pm

Oh for God’s sake. Trump’s on with Fallon.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:54:11pm

re: #175 De Kolta Chair

hover over the big green question mark and all your questions shall be answered, young padawan.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:55:44pm

El Oh EL

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:56:03pm

re: #170 Stanley Sea Toujours

Thanks, I’m going to hot shower & go back to the cocoon.

Having just gone through this with mr. klys, ease yourself back into normal foods. Rice, bananas, applesauce, and Saltines.

He was very happy when he was allowed oyster crackers.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:56:55pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

And let’s not forget that he’s also responsible for writing this….
David Bowie - All the Young Dudes

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:57:31pm

Skiers are weird, man.

Facebook Post

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 8:59:41pm
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Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:03:32pm

And these children that you spit on as they try to change their worlds.

Posted by Flea on Monday, January 11, 2016
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:07:34pm

OT, but my nephew the film student and I caught The Revenant yesterday, and I’m still thinking about the excellent cinematography and sound design, both of which serve the story extremely well; for all I know, they might even be the story. If you plan to see it, see it on the biggest movie screen you can find.

Btw, on the way home, my nephew opined that he didn’t care for it. To which I brilliantly quipped, “That’s cuz it didn’t have any superheroes.” And then I remembered he really liked Nebraska, so I had him pull into a package store and bought him a six pack of his favorite brew.

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ausador  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:07:41pm

Hey just thought, Bundy bunch are not only moochers/protesters now, they are also vandals. Destruction of government property means the RWNJs can’t use the “they aren’t looting and destroying stuff” line anymore. ;)

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:13:04pm

Whoa dude. Tim Tebow is going full-on Joe Dirt.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:13:40pm
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Jenner7  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:14:46pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

It look like the woman’s hair next to him.

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:15:26pm

re: #196 Jenner7

It look like the woman’s hair next to him.

D’oh!

I wanted that haircut to be real-life!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:15:38pm

Awesome if it pans out.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:15:56pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

Whoa dude. Tim Tebow is going full-on Joe Dirt.

Tim Tebow rocking the Pony Tail

Pretty sure the “ponytail” is the hair of the lady standing to his right

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:17:07pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

Pretty sure the “ponytail” is the hair of the lady standing to his right

I just bared for all to see a glaring confirmation bias. Tim Tebow with a mullet like that would be EPIC!

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Tigger2  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:17:16pm

Julian Castro is on the Tonight show with Colbert, if Hillary get’s the nomination he should be the VP pick.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:17:48pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

I just bared for all to see a glaring confirmation bias. Tim Tebow with a mullet like that would be EPIC!

It would be one for the ages.

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:18:54pm
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:21:57pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

I just bared for all to see a glaring confirmation bias. Tim Tebow with a mullet like that would be EPIC!

Yeah it would. But since I’ve had on ESPN (the Tebow network) all night, I’m sure they would have had multiple cameras covering that ‘do, if real

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:22:52pm

re: #194 teleskiguy

Whoa dude. Tim Tebow is going full-on Joe Dirt.

I used to call Tebow the American David Beckham, until a relative in the UK informed me that Beckham not only actually played more than a few games but was actually pretty good at it.

Shite, did I just compliment David Beckham out loud?

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:22:52pm

Speaking of sportsball, Alabama beat Clemson 45-40.

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ausador  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:24:24pm

Sigh…

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Great White Snark  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:24:57pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

Uh huh.

Russia Can’t Afford To Buy Its New Super Weapons

The T-14 has been Russia’s most celebrated new weapon system as of late. Regardless of its capability (though it’s by no means a “silver bullet” weapon system), in order to be really effective it needs to be fielded in relevant numbers. Originally the idea was to replace the majority of Russia’s front-line stable of ‘legacy’ main battle tanks with the T-14, amounting to about 2,300 in total, with production ramping up in the short term.

Instead of producing thousands of the tanks over next five years or so, some analysts put the number as little as a few hundred. This is partly because the cost of the tank has ballooned to about two and half times what was originally projected. As a result, the Kremlin will likely focus on modernize existing system, such as its T-72 and T-90 tank force.

The same situation is also occurring with the Kremlin’s new stealthy fighter, the Sukhoi T-50. Originally the Russia was aiming at building about 150 T-50s by 2020, then the number was scaled back to just 52 units with the first batch entering operational service in 2016. Now, that number is being drastically scaled back once again to just 12 aircraft, which really equates to an expanded test and operational validation force at best. What’s worse is that as production numbers plummet, unit costs increase. This is what is commonly referred to in Pentagon parlance as a weapons program “Death Spiral.”

foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:26:24pm

re: #208 Great White Snark

BUT BUT BUT…PUTIN IS A MANLY MAN WHO GETS SHIT DONE!!!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:32:44pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

BTW, Vlad, how well has the ruble doing against the benchmark USD?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:39:41pm

re: #207 ausador

Sigh…

I suggest that their next ballot initiative address their village/hamlet/burgh/whatever being named fecking Whitesboro.

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ausador  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:44:43pm

Why do I suddenly have the insane image of herds of wild feral cows terrorizing the countryside in my head?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:50:05pm

re: #212 ausador

Why do I suddenly have the insane image of herds of wild feral cows terrorizing the countryside in my head?

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I was thinking latch key cows

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:54:47pm

Speaking of Milo Yiannofuckthatguy, the lead singer/bassist of NOFX Mike Burkett (@FatMike_of_NOFX) has over 130,000 followers on Twitter (@Nero has over 142,000 followers). Fat Mike does not have a blue check mark. And he don’t give a fuck because he’s punk rock and he wears a woman’s nightie in public everywhere he goes now (he says it’s “punk” for a middle-aged man to wear dresses in public).

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ausador  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:55:04pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart

I was thinking latch key cows

Cows with guns…
Cows With Guns - The Original Animation

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 9:57:53pm

re: #214 teleskiguy

instagram.com

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:01:14pm

Charles, any way you can work something into your marvelous code to allow for Instagram embeds?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:02:47pm

re: #215 ausador

Cows with guns…

The Great Cow Guru…hmm

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:03:40pm

I had a strange thought about all these right-wing Twitter “personalities”. I was thinking these people were like some kind of gang, or crew, which made me wonder:

What would a Star Trek show be like, if the crew were all conservatives? Like Dana Guns as the security officer… Chucksie could be a red shirt. Trump would be some kind of Admiral. Who would play Kirk??

To seek out new worlds, and to exploit them like no man has before! The show sure as fuck wouldn’t be about helping anyone. It would be about as thought-provoking as an Ayn Rand novel. I wonder what the ship would be called… Maybe USS Hot Dog, because it would be full of ground bone and assholes.

I’ve had a long day full of crumminess and my creativity is tapped out, but I feel like such a show would be a deliciously dystopian nightmare.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:07:18pm

And being ushered out by a Vladimir Putin cosplayer must’ve been a tad embarrassing. Or maybe he took it as a compliment. I don’t know and I don’t care.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:08:26pm

re: #212 ausador

Why do I suddenly have the insane image of herds of wild feral cows terrorizing the countryside in my head?
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You do what we did to our surplus cattle.

Butcher and serve ‘em for dinner.

“Beef, it’s what’s for dinner.”

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:15:32pm

All this shit I’m seeing right now about Alabama winning a sportsball game is a picture of Nick Saban, the coach. No pictures of players, no GIFs of players playing (it’s early for that, I know), nothing about the student athletes. Just the coach.

And people wonder why I don’t watch sportsball.

We need to change the name of the game from football to sportsball.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:17:29pm

Upset rightwinger wants the same SCOTUS that okayed commie Obamacare to do something something because his brain hurts===>

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:20:32pm

What’s up with this picture?!?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:25:58pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:26:07pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

What’s up with this picture?!?

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Rup’s great-great-great grandson in the background of the photo looks suitably shocked.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:27:52pm

re: #219 Pawn of the Oppressor

I had a strange thought about all these right-wing Twitter “personalities”. I was thinking these people were like some kind of gang, or crew, which made me wonder:

What would a Star Trek show be like, if the crew were all conservatives? Like Dana Guns as the security officer… Chucksie could be a red shirt. Trump would be some kind of Admiral. Who would play Kirk??

To seek out new worlds, and to exploit them like no man has before! The show sure as fuck wouldn’t be about helping anyone. It would be about as thought-provoking as an Ayn Rand novel. I wonder what the ship would be called… Maybe USS Hot Dog, because it would be full of ground bone and assholes.

I’ve had a long day full of crumminess and my creativity is tapped out, but I feel like such a show would be a deliciously dystopian nightmare.

It would be about the Ferengi, and the Prime Directive would be replaced by the Rules of Acquisition.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:28:39pm

‘Night all/peace out

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:33:57pm

I am now sitting at an even 40,000 karma. Didn’t have spy on, so I don’t know who exactly pushed me above 40K, thank you anyways!

My karma to comment ratio stands at 4:1.0855.

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ausador  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:40:55pm

Lol…

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BeachDem  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:41:34pm

re: #56 Belafon

I’ve read today that, when asked, both Reince Priebus and Mitch McConnell have said they, and institutions they lead, will be staying out of whether Cruz is a natural born citizen. Considering that in 2008 the Senate unanimously confirmed that McCain was natural born, it seems that a lot of people want to make it as hard as possible on Cruz.

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:47:26pm

I want to say this. LGF makes me laugh. I can count on expert-level snark on the comings and goings of the day here. Thanks Lizards!

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:49:40pm

re: #227 Big Beautiful Door

It would be about the Ferengi, and the Prime Directive would be replaced by the Rules of Acquisition.

And all the male protagonists would have copious ear hair.

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TedStriker  Jan 11, 2016 • 10:52:35pm

re: #233 BeenHereAwhile

And all the male protagonists would have copious ear hair.

And lobes galore.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 12:29:13am
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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 12:31:56am

Here’s a photo of me taken last year through an Instagram filter. Yes, I am skiing backwards. Yes, I can’t really see where I’m going or what’s in my way. Yes, nobody got hurt.

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Alephnaught  Jan 12, 2016 • 1:39:05am

re: #77 Ziggy_TARDIS

So apparently, Bowie did a movie in the 70s called The Man Who Fell to Earth.

Has anyone seen it?

It is a Nicolas Roeg movie, so it’s a bit out there compared to even most movies of it’s time, but once you get used to the style, it is very good.

EDIT: Also, the covers for Station to Station and Low feature stills from the movie.

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Alephnaught  Jan 12, 2016 • 1:51:05am

re: #198 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Awesome if it pans out.

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Update: The Guardian’s reporting on it:

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 2:14:21am

The reactionaries are becoming violent:

Anti-refugee right-wingers go on rampage in Leipzig, say police

Over 200 masked right-wing supporters, carrying placards with racist overtones, went on a rampage in the eastern city of Leipzig on Monday night, throwing fireworks, breaking windows and vandalizing buildings, police said.

Emotions are running high in German cities after gangs of young migrant men sexually assaulted women at New Year in mass attacks in Cologne and other towns.

The attacks have deepened public scepticism towards Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open-door refugee policy and her mantra that Germany can cope with the 1.1 million migrants who arrived in the country last year. It has also fueled right-wing groups.

As roughly 2,000 anti-Muslim “LEGIDA” protesters marched peacefully in the city center, police said a separate group of 211 people walked through the southern Connewitz district before setting of fireworks, erecting barricades and vandalizing property. The top floor of one building caught fire.

The group carried a placard reading “Leipzig bleibt Helle”, or “Leipzig stays light”, an apparent reference to the skin color of residents.

[…]

As I noted yesterday, two rapes were reported in what this article refers to as “mass attacks in Cologne”, though it appears most of the crimes were groping. Not to dismiss any of those, as those crimes are serious enough.

But here we see the racist reactionaries running with these stories to foment their violent xenophobia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 2:14:51am

re: #77 Ziggy_TARDIS

So apparently, Bowie did a movie in the 70s called The Man Who Fell to Earth.

Has anyone seen it?

I saw it in the cinema when it came out, did not understand it or like it at the time. Would probably be interested in seeing it again for nostalgia’s sake.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 12, 2016 • 2:26:23am

It would have been better (or a good troll) for Twitter if rather than telling MeeLo that he lost his check mark due to targeted harassment they instead should have apologized to him and told him that they made a mistake in giving it to him in the first place because he did not warrant one. Then explain how it’s reserved for personalities, people of note and the like, things that he’s not.

The little peckerhead would have gone up in flames…lol!

The GG thread over at the tech forum I’ve mentioned in the past is still dead of commentary, just the OP’s recent breathless updates on how oppressed poor, poor MeeLo is and how Milo’s Barrel of Flying Ass Monkeys are out there white knighting the fight against whatever and whoever to bring victory to their cause, keeping virtual boobs in games because that’s the closest they will ever get to a pair of them.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 12, 2016 • 3:21:43am

I hate Alberta clippers. That is all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 3:24:32am

re: #242 Amory Blaine

I hate Alberta clippers. That is all.

I dislike Ontario shears.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 3:45:48am

Bolero on the pipes. Going to be that kind of day.

CARLOS NUÑEZ, BOLERO DE RAVEL

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:22:45am

The high cost of bigotry to taxpayers: Attorneys who challenged Tennessee”s same-sex marriage ban and won are seeking $2.3 million in fee’s from the state.
tennessean.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:27:39am

re: #245 Big Beautiful Door

The high cost of bigotry to taxpayers: Attorneys who challenged Tennessee”s same-sex marriage ban and won are seeking $2.3 million in fee’s from the state.
tennessean.com

And that’s only one side’s billing. Our judicial whiz, Roy Moore, just decided to plow that same field yet again, but that’s OK because Alabama has money to burn.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:35:55am

Biden is feeling the Bern! Great interview with Vice President Biden.

Vice President Joe Biden offered effusive praise for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders Monday, lauding Hillary Clinton’s chief rival for doing a “heck of a job” on the campaign trail and praising Sanders for offering an authentic voice on income inequality.

And while Biden said Democrats had a slate of “great candidates” running for president, he suggested Clinton was a newcomer to issues like the growing gap between rich and poor.

“Bernie is speaking to a yearning that is deep and real. And he has credibility on it,” Biden said during an interview with CNN chief political analyst Gloria Borger.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:42:20am

re: #247 Kent Dorfman

Biden is feeling the Bern! Great interview with Vice President Biden.

Bernie is the cheerleader you lust after. HRC is the glockenspiel player you’re going to marry.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:45:06am

re: #247 Kent Dorfman

Biden is feeling the Bern! Great interview with Vice President Biden.

I just can’t get the Bern because I know even if he gets to be President he wont be able to get hardly any of the stuff he talks about done, unless he gets a majority in congress and that probably wont happen.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:47:33am

re: #249 Tigger2

We really don’t know what kind, if any, coat tails any candidate will have. I really think Bernie could sit down and talk to the American people and push his agenda. One thing is for certain, the day after Election Day, everyone will be an expert.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:49:07am

re: #250 Kent Dorfman

We really don’t know what kind, if any, coat tails any candidate will have. I really think Bernie could sit down and talk to the American people and push his agenda. One thing is for certain, the day after Election Day, everyone will be an expert.

To many gerrymandered districts. And if you think they blocked Obama’s middle of the road bills then Bernie’s will be dead before they arrive.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:50:29am

re: #250 Kent Dorfman

… I really think Bernie could sit down and talk to the American people and push his agenda…

And that’s his job. If he does it well, we might get what we want in one or two generations.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:51:22am

re: #251 Tigger2

Not in New York, where the Republicans in power managed to gerrymander their districts even further Democratic.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:54:00am

re: #253 Kent Dorfman

Not in New York, where the Republicans in power managed to gerrymander their districts even further Democratic.

The word Socialist doesn’t bother me but it sure bothers a lot of people in the country, I just wish Bernie hadn’t called himself that so much.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:55:23am

re: #254 Tigger2

The word Socialism doesn’t bother me but it sure bothers a lot of people in the country, I just wish Bernie hadn’t called himself that so much.

If he disguised his ideology for electoral gains, he’d be a politician.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:56:59am

He is a Politician.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:57:26am

re: #256 Tigger2

He is a Politician.

Not on the national stage, he isn’t.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:57:38am

re: #254 Tigger2

I thought Vice President Biden addressed that in an interview I previously posted.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:58:23am
Gus

I have some extra help today in the office.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:58:42am

re: #258 Kent Dorfman

I though Vice President Biden addressed that in an interview I previously posted.

I bet there won’t be very many older people voting for him. to many people set in their way of thinking.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 4:59:55am

re: #260 Tigger2

I bet there won’t be very many older people voting for him.

He isn’t my first choice. I don’t want to die under a Republican president.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:00:40am

re: #260 Tigger2

All those hippies and flower children? They are all grown up now.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:01:18am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

He isn’t my first choice. I don’t want to die under a Republican president.

Oh I’ll vote for him if he gets the nomination.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:01:32am

re: #262 Kent Dorfman

All those hippies and flower children? They are all grown up now.

Yes, but we Beats are still wiping their noses and asses for them.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:02:12am

re: #262 Kent Dorfman

All those hippies and flower children? They are all grown up now.

And plenty of them are now hard core bible thumping Republicans…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:03:26am

re: #263 Tigger2

Oh I’ll vote for him if he gets the nomination.

I would vote, donate, and go back to Florida to work GOTV for him. I hope he doesn’t get the nomination.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:03:47am

re: #264 Decatur Deb

Yes, but we Beats are still wiping their noses and asses for them.

yep a lot of those hippies and flower children call themselves Independents now because that just how they are.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:04:03am

re: #265 Joe Bacon

And plenty of them are now hard core bible thumping Republicans…

(They were actually self-indulgent shits even then.)

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:05:05am

re: #266 Decatur Deb

I would vote, donate, and go back to Florida to work GOTV for him. I hope he doesn’t get the nomination.

Vote and donate for me get out and work is not going to happen.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:05:07am

re: #229 teleskiguy

My karma to comment ratio stands at 4:1.0855.

I have to say, this is the oddest way of noting a ratio: whole Karma units per fractional posts.

1:3.69 is karma units per post.

/geek

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:05:07am

re: #265 Joe Bacon

Just the loud and annoying ones.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:05:37am

re: #270 Le Lapin Tueur

It’s bad karma to check your karma.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:08:32am

I love her chops, even if she’s a Putin lover.

Chopin Etude Op 10 No.4 Valentina Lisitsa

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:12:09am

re: #269 Tigger2

Vote and donate for me get out and work is not going to happen.

Today is my second shift registering kids at the community college.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:19:36am

re: #274 Decatur Deb

Today is my second shift registering kids at the community college.

cool, hope you get a bunch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:24:05am

re: #274 Decatur Deb

Today is my second shift registering kids at the community college.

re: #273 Amory Blaine

I love her chops, even if she’s a Putin lover.

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The Soviet Union fell out of favor with most of its creative and intellectual types. Putin has been very good about keeping most of Russia’s on his side.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:25:19am

re: #274 Decatur Deb

Today is my second shift registering kids at the community college.

At my age and with my health it’s a bitch just going to the store or mini mart.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:25:29am

So I bought a case of black berry preserves because I thought the jars would make nice drinking glasses. $2 a jar, not bad, brings back fond childhood memories of drinking out of old mustard jars.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:25:40am

re: #275 Tigger2

cool hope you get a bunch.

It’s good exercise, and will help down the road, but this state is a write-off. We don’t prosletyze on state property, or register by party, so some of them will even be GOP.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:27:00am

re: #279 Decatur Deb

The more people that exercise their right to vote is good for the whole country.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:27:45am

re: #280 Kent Dorfman

The more people that exercise their right to vote is good for the whole country.

Yup. And these are kids with a lot of miles left in them.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:28:59am

re: #278 Kent Dorfman

So I bought a case of black berry preserves because I thought the jars would make nice drinking glasses. $2 a jar, not bad, brings back fond childhood memories of drinking out of old mustard jars.

We used to drink out of jelly jars with handles on them when I was young, they were nice thick and hard to break.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:29:48am

re: #282 Tigger2

Exactly like that!!!

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:31:53am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

He isn’t my first choice. I don’t want to die under a Republican president.

I don’t think you’re their type.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:31:58am

re: #278 Kent Dorfman

So I bought a case of black berry preserves because I thought the jars would make nice drinking glasses. $2 a jar, not bad, brings back fond childhood memories of drinking out of old mustard jars.

Remember Welch’s Grape Jelly decorative jars when I was a kid. I loved to scoop out lots of jelly on toast, peanut butter sandwiches so I could have a new glass to drink from…

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:32:22am

re: #283 Kent Dorfman

Exactly like that!!!

Made a good coffee mug to because back then you only little coffee cups.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:32:46am

So who wants a PB&J sammich with chunky peanut butter and a very seedy blackberry preserve. Aw jeez you are probably all tactile sensitive. Pick the seeds and nuts out yourself :)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:33:04am

re: #284 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I don’t think you’re their type.

Visions of Howard Taft. Ewww. BBL.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:35:19am

My Chinese music service (comes with my cell phone — don’t ask about copyright permissions) has a David Bowie playlist. Of course, I am listening to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:37:13am

re: #289 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My Chinese music service (comes with my cell phone — don’t ask about copyright permissions) has a David Bowie playlist. Of course, I am listening to it.

Ground Control to Major Tong…

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:38:29am

re: #289 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You want that with fried rice?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:39:55am

Hasn’t the 15 minutes expired on this vile asshole?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:39:57am

re: #291 Kent Dorfman

You want that with fried rice?

Just leave out the Diamond Dog…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:41:08am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I saw it in the cinema when it came out, did not understand it or like it at the time. Would probably be interested in seeing it again for nostalgia’s sake.

I did see it, but have no memory of it. Must have been in the 80’s.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:41:57am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:43:01am

re: #292 Dr. Matt

Hasn’t the 15 minutes expired on this vile asshole?

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I would love to know who gave the Family Research Council seats.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:43:27am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:43:37am

re: #296 Timothy Watson

I would love to know who gave the Family Research Council seats.

I’ll bet my powerball winnings on Gohmert.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:45:07am

It’s f—-king cold in my part of the world.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:45:24am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:46:57am

re: #296 Timothy Watson

I would love to know who gave the Family Research Council seats.

I like how he hasn’t excluded those who disagree with the rest of the world. It will do more to help people accept change than all the Bundy’s and the other whackos will ever do to prevent change.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:48:14am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Ground Control to Major Tong…

The very song playing right now. Tom, though

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:49:46am

The rise of the firebaggers

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:51:00am

“It puts the lotion in the basket”

A Pennsylvania couple is struggling to sell a house used as the home of psychotic killer Buffalo Bill in the 1991 film “The Silence of the Lambs.”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:53:25am

re: #304 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

This was a set-up with actors, posted on fb as real.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:54:04am

jalopnik.com: We Are Living In The Detroit Auto Show

That’s not a typo, or a metaphor. We are actually living in the Detroit Auto Show. Right now, and for the next two days. In vans.

Why we’re living in vans is a tough question to answer. Partially because it’s free, mostly because it’s the only way to make sure we are CLOSEST TO THE ACTION, and entirely because my ex-boss, Matt Hardigree, is a diabolical sociopath who surely despises me and my colleague, Raphael Orlove.

Did Rage Furby finally get a job??!?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 5:57:39am

re: #306 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

This was a set-up with actors, posted on fb as real.

I started to watch it, it seemed too cliche to be real.

My ex was a La Leche League breastfeeding counselor and I am amazed at the lack of enlightenment on the subject, among both men and women.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:00:46am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:01:11am

Aiming to bring smart guns to U.S. market

Gun-safety technologies like these wouldn’t have prevented mass violence such as the Nov. 27 attack on a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs or the Dec. 2 San Bernardino shooting attack. The goal instead is to reduce firearms injuries caused by unauthorized or unintended users, including suicide victims, especially youths, and children who encounter loaded guns in the home, and criminal suspects who get their hands on officers’ weapons.

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To me, this is a good idea. Since I can’t have my Star Trek Phaser permanently set to “stun”, this sounds like a next best thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:03:32am

re: #309 Dr. Matt

Oregon judge plans to bill Ammon Bundy up to $70,000 a day for security costs to county

They are free to leave any time, you know…

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b.d.  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:05:02am

re: #309 Dr. Matt

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They should also get the energy bill on that place.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:05:07am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:06:23am

re: #309 Dr. Matt

They can go to court and sue to attach his assets, if he fails to pony up.

Also, I doubt the Bundys will ever get another SBA loan.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:07:29am

re: #312 b.d.

They should have occupied Federally owned property with solar panels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:08:16am

re: #313 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Donald Trump: The Chinese Sure Knew How to Display Toughness at Tiananmen Square

Like his divorces, those words don’t count: he uttered them before he became a presidential candidate.

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Great White Snark  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:08:37am

re: #310 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

It is a good idea. For our phones and laptops too. Reliability is a huge challenge. One of the first applications will be for police. Unlike a rifle at home for hunting trips that gets shared among family members, a cop needs a gun to go inert if taken. But if he has to reboot the biometrics or that gun fails to shoot (the most common malfunction by miles) we have a problem. It will take money like that grant and much more. DARPA/DOD cash.

I think some forget what a big engineering and design challenge this is. For instance name the device of similar size that has that kind of one person only feature? Anything at all anywhere?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:10:20am

re: #314 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They can go to court and sue to attach his assets, if he fails to pony up.

Also, I doubt the Bundys will ever get another SBA loan.

Why do I feel like these guys think they are living on the Ponderosa - fighting the farmers for putting up fences?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:11:18am

re: #313 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

The exact quote:

When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak … as being spit on by the rest of the world—

For reference, hundreds of students and other protesters (some say thousands) were killed, and most families were never notified of their child’s decease, nor where they were buried.

China set its own army on its own people to put down a large scale protest for more democracy in China.

Trump admires all that, it seems.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:12:31am

re: #317 Great White Snark

It is a good idea. For our phones and laptops too. Reliability is a huge challenge. One of the first applications will be for police. Unlike a rifle at home for hunting trips that gets shared among family members, a cop needs a gun to go inert if taken. But if he has to reboot the biometrics or that gun fails to shoot (the most common malfunction by miles) we have a problem. It will take money like that grant and much more. DARPA/DOD cash.

I think some forget what a big engineering and design challenge this is. For instance name the device of similar size that has that kind of one person only feature? Anything at all anywhere?

I’m so tired of the lack of creativity and the resistance to change in the firearm industry.

It’s very much the same as the auto industry. We could have had flex fuel cars in 30 years ago if they hadn’t been so dedicated to the status quo.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:14:46am

re: #320 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I’m so tired of the lack of creativity and the resistance to change in the firearm industry.

It’s very much the same as the auto industry. We could have had flex fuel cars in 30 years ago if they hadn’t been so dedicated to the status quo.

Sorry for the frustration. If we can put a man in space and map our genetic code, we can make a safer firearm. It’s just money and dedication (will power). It’s doable.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:15:12am

re: #318 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Why do I feel like these guys think they are living on the Ponderosa - fighting the farmers for putting up fences?

They are living in a fantasy land of their own device. The Range Wars ended a century or more ago, and the romantic vision of wranglers driving cattle over hundreds of miles of high prairie to KC are long, long gone.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:16:12am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:19:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:21:19am

re: #324 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Fox News Is Literally Dying Of Old Age As Younger Viewers Refuse To Watch Fox

Soon they are just going to broadcast shots of passing clouds and commentators yelling at them…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:22:08am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:23:19am

In some states, it’s the loaded pistol box.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:24:07am
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Great White Snark  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:24:53am

re: #320 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I’m so tired of the lack of creativity and the resistance to change in the firearm industry.

It’s very much the same as the auto industry. We could have had flex fuel cars in 30 years ago if they hadn’t been so dedicated to the status quo.

Agreed. Honestly these guys need to start with long gun designs. I know we all want handguns first, but rifles have room to put technology. Electronic triggers that are tied to optics with google glass (using the term really loosely) could prevent friendly fire and misses. Imagine a gun with ROE built in. Sound SciFi? Okay guilty. So is my smart cell phone. All that tech shrinks over time.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:25:19am

Greets and saluts from the brisk but bright NYC metro area. The situation in Flint Michigan should be a front-page above the fold kind of story. A GOP led administration pushing penny pinching that ignores clear science about how dangerous it would be to use river water as even a temporary water source while a new source is being set up. The penny pinchers go ahead and use the river water with inadequate water treatment, exposing the entire city to lead poisoning - with foul smelling water and kids being medically treated for lead poison at many times the EPA safety threshold.

Officials warned Monday that the tap water still isn’t safe to drink, but it took five days after the emergency declaration for the state to start handing out bottled water.

And Flint’s economically challenged citizens are still being billed for water that authorities say they shouldn’t consume or even use to brush their teeth.

(snip)

The crisis began in April 2014 when Flint switched from using Detroit’s water supply to water from the Flint River to save money. The river water was saltier and began corroding the old pipes and leaching lead into the system.

An email obtained by researchers at Virginia Tech revealed that six months ago, the governor’s chief of staff was concerned enough that he told the state health department Flint’s residents were “rightfully” worried about initial reports of lead levels and were “getting blown off” by the state.

Snyder insisted his epiphany about the Flint situation didn’t come until Oct. 1, when testing done by a hospital lab affirmed the results a local doctor had been reporting.

“We started taking actions on Oct. 2,” he said. He blamed the three-month gap between that and the emergency declaration to the need to follow protocol.

The state goes MIA and the emergency manager installed by the state’s GOP governor is essentially MIA as well.

No one should drink the water in Flint until the water is hooked up to a safe water supply (which it was until the GOP decided penny pinching was the way to go) but it took days before the state and city finally brought in bottled water after it was declared unsafe to drink.

Of course, Flint residents are paying for the undrinkable water, and will be paying for years to come for having been exposed to the dangerously leaded water for months - children who were given/drank that water can have lasting medical effects.

Those are costs that the GOP’s penny pinchers inflicted on Flint.

It further shows just how dangerous the GOP is when it comes to clean water/air, the environment generally, and how the anti-science bias affects every corner of GOP thinking. The Michigan DEP claimed the water was safe to drink for months, despite residents saying that there was something wrong with the taste/smell, and doctors began finding elevated lead levels in blood samples of kids in the city (the lead test isn’t something done in the normal course of tests - you do it when you suspect heavy metal poisoning).

This is the lead weight around the neck of the GOP, and Michigan’s situation is the tip of the iceberg of what the GOP wants to do with national environmental protection standards. Every time they call for gutting EPA regs/enforcement, it could lead to people being directly harmed. Every time they deny the science, it could lead to people being harmed.

This is what Democrats need to focus on. The GOP is dangerous.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:30:51am
Militants in Oregon hijack government bulldozer to take down fence at occupied refuge
On Monday, the armed group occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon, hijacked a federal Wildcat excavator and ripped out an 80-foot section of fence separating the public birding refuge from a private cattle ranch. “I feel like this is the first step of many in restoring ranchers’ rights,” group leader Ammon Bundy told reporters and the two dozen or so people occupying the nature preserve with him. He said the tearing down of the barbed wire will allow cattle from the Puckett family ranch to graze in the refuge.

yup, these people need to learn what century it is. We need the birds a hell of a lot more than we need humans right now.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:32:31am

re: #329 Great White Snark

Agreed. Honestly these guys need to start with long gun designs. I know we all want handguns first, but rifles have room to put technology. Electronic triggers that are tied to optics with google glass (using the term really loosely) could prevent friendly fire and misses. Imagine a gun with ROE built in. Sound SciFi? Okay guilty. So is my smart cell phone. All that tech shrinks over time.

Sci-fi has a habit of becoming Sci-reality.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:32:55am

re: #119 FormerDirtDart

Poppa Cliven doesn’t pay his government bills, why would anyone expect his grifting son to?

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And debtors jail is only for poor people who can’t pay $100 fines. These guys will skate. Fines. Bah. Never going to see a dime.

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sagehen  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:36:05am

re: #330 lawhawk

Of course, Flint residents are paying for the undrinkable water, and will be paying for years to come for having been exposed to the dangerously leaded water for months - children who were given/drank that water can have lasting medical effects.

And when those Flint children flunk out of school and can’t earn a living… conservatives will blame “black culture” or “liberals who tell them they’re victims” or “lack of personal responsibility” for their continued poverty.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:40:03am
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makeitstop  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:41:13am

I notice that with my laptop (Win 10, running Chrome), longer threads have gotten balky since I turned off Ad Blocker for this site, and the Flash plugin stops, then starts, then hangs, then sits there, then crashes - at which point the site starts breezing right along.

My semi-serious request for Charles - could we just get a kill switch for Flash and be done with it?

I’m being facetious - it really doesn’t bother me that much.

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Dave80  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:42:28am

re: #334 sagehen

Isn’t that the truth. Never mind that lead is a known neuro-toxin etc. It will be used to show excuse and reinforce prejudice. It’s so damned frustrating.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:43:32am

re: #324 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Fox News Is Literally Dying Of Old Age As Younger Viewers Refuse To Watch Fox

Well, the ratings for shows like for Bill O’ still show very good numbers. I’m sort of skeptical, and I wonder if politicususa is writing more about what they wish to be true.

Indeed, let’s look at this claim:

Fox continues to march towards extinction as the average age of Fox News, primetime viewers is stuck at 68, …

In other words, they are claiming that the average age hasn’t changed for Fox viewers.

But let’s think about what this means:

Every year we each grow a year older.
Every year people die.

So if the average age of Fox viewers is “stuck” at a certain age, that means it must be getting replacement viewers for those who are not only pass away, but also for those who have aged a year since last year.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:44:18am

Feral Girl does not understand why her humans won’t go outside and play in the snow with her.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:45:10am

re: #10 gocart mozart

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No offense to poopyheads intended, of course.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:45:17am

re: #329 Great White Snark

Agreed. Honestly these guys need to start with long gun designs. I know we all want handguns first, but rifles have room to put technology. Electronic triggers that are tied to optics with google glass (using the term really loosely) could prevent friendly fire and misses. Imagine a gun with ROE built in. Sound SciFi? Okay guilty. So is my smart cell phone. All that tech shrinks over time.

You read sites that the gun-porn enthusiasts/ammosexuals frequent? They think things like the ROE and things associated with technology are bad/evil. They want their guns as stupid as they are. These changes will only occur by fiat from way up high in the federal food chain. And, that being politics, all circles back to the power the NRA has over the House and Senate

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:46:09am

re: #331 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

yup, these people need to learn what century it is. We need the birds a hell of a lot more than we need humans right now.

These guys need to be arrested.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:46:26am

re: #338 freetoken

Well, more non-white people are being born than white people. I don’t think the older non-white people are watching Fox. So by attrition, they will eventually lose viewers.

??

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:47:04am

Well tonight’s my first day of creative writing class. Not really nervous since this is just for fun and to sharpen up my skills.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:47:33am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

These guys need to be arrested.

In principle, yes. But I think the current no-escalation policy is the prudent one. There are too many people who want to provoke the Feds into responding with force.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:47:53am

re: #343 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Well, more non-white people are being born than white people. I don’t think the older non-white people are watching Fox. So by attrition, they will eventually lose viewers.

??

I am just glad my parents aren’t getting right wing as they age. Small victories.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:48:17am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In principle, yes. But I think the current no-escalation policy is the prudent one. There are too many people who want to provoke the Feds into responding with force.

Right, I agree with that.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:50:43am

going around fb under “Three Brave Girls”, hosted by Occupy Democrats:
#BNV14 Finals: Los Angeles “Somewhere in America”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:51:22am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Well tonight’s my first day of creative writing class. Not really nervous since this is just for fun and to sharpen up my skills.

Just remember that a story must have a beginning, a middle and and end. :)

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:52:16am

re: #346 HappyWarrior

I am just glad my parents aren’t getting right wing as they age. Small victories.

My parents went lefter and lefter as they aged. And, my dad was an NSA spook for almost 40 years.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:52:22am

Bernie is getting lots of luv today, I see from the newsfeed.

I never know quite how to think about Sanders. On the one hand he really is fresh air in the stale room dominated by right-wing talking points.

On the other hand, I just don’t see a majority of Americans voting for him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:53:45am

re: #351 freetoken

Bernie is getting lots of luv today, I see from the newsfeed.

I never know quite how to think about Sanders. On the one hand he really is fresh air in the stale room dominated by right-wing talking points.

On the other hand, I just don’t see a majority of Americans voting for him.

You nailed it.

I am not going to vote for HIllary, just voting against the GOP.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 6:59:23am

re: #352 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You nailed it.

I am not going to vote for HIllary, just voting against the GOP.

whatever works

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:01:39am

my mother has moderate dementia. I’m really concerned that she will just vote a straight GOP ticket out of habit.

I don’t think she is mentally able to truly vote her conscious. I don’t know what to do about it. She has some strong feminist leanings —which for her generation means GOP.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:01:45am

I have come to like Hillary.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:03:02am

re: #355 Le Lapin Tueur

I have come to like Hillary.

please, share these thoughts with everyone u know. So many seem to be stuck in the 90’s regarding their opinion of her.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:06:10am

re: #309 Dr. Matt

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And when Ammon refuses to pay, there will be no consequences. How much does the Father owe the federal government now on that bill he refuses to pay?

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:06:15am

I know that some may think me mostly a cynic, and I am, but my society is a cynical one too.

And I wonder how that is working into our elections this year.

I think one reason Trump gets such a reaction is that he knows how to work in the year 2016. So many of the other candidates seem to be lost somewhere in the past. They can’t play the game of rapid social media. They can’t really grasp how to get way ahead of the media steam rollers.

When Trump criticizes Jeb! for being “low energy” what Trump is really saying is that Jeb! has failed to know how to manipulate the system in the year 2016. Jeb!’s strategies now seem a couple of decades out of date, as he does personally.

It’s takes a lot of skill to maneuver around our cynical society. A sharp tongue and quick wit are necessary. The good ol’ boy network can put one on stage, but they can’t make one be a contemporary shaker on that stage, in our world of weekly trends.

And that is the story of this year’s campaign, so far, I gather.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:07:02am

re: #350 Le Lapin Tueur

My parents went lefter and lefter as they aged. And, my dad was an NSA spook for almost 40 years.

That’s interesting. My parents have pretty much stayed the same. My mom’s always been more centrist minded than my Dad though but I’d be shocked to see either spouting FNC talking points.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:08:17am

re: #356 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

please, share these thoughts with everyone u know. So many seem to be stuck in the 90’s regarding their opinion of her.

They do, don’t they. It’s hard to crack those entrenched thoughts, though.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:08:35am

re: #351 freetoken

Bernie is getting lots of luv today, I see from the newsfeed.

I never know quite how to think about Sanders. On the one hand he really is fresh air in the stale room dominated by right-wing talking points.

On the other hand, I just don’t see a majority of Americans voting for him.

Senator Sanders is a straight up, passionate guy. But he’d be too easy for the GOP money machine to run against. It’s bad enough that they’ve painted President Obama as a Kenyan Muslim Communist. Could you imagine what they’d do to an actual Jewish Socialist? It would be a bloodbath. I’d vote for Senator Sanders but am not sure about the masses.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:08:53am

re: #358 freetoken

I know that some may think me mostly a cynic, and I am, but my society is a cynical one too.

And I wonder how that is working into our elections this year.

I think one reason Trump gets such a reaction is that he knows how to work in the year 2016. So many of the other candidates seem to be lost somewhere in the past. They can’t play the game of rapid social media. They can’t really grasp how to get way ahead of the media steam rollers.

When Trump criticizes Jeb! for being “low energy” what Trump is really saying is that Jeb! has failed to know how to manipulate the system in the year 2016. Jeb!’s strategies now seem a couple of decades out of date, as he does personally.

It’s takes a lot of skill to maneuver around our cynical society. A sharp tongue and quick wit are necessary. The good ol’ boy network can put one on stage, but they can’t make one be a contemporary shaker on that stage, in our world of weekly trends.

And that is the story of this year’s campaign, so far, I gather.

i think you got at it about Trump v Jeb. Jeb hasn’t ran a serious campaign since 1998 and it really shows.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:09:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:10:10am

re: #356 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

please, share these thoughts with everyone u know. So many seem to be stuck in the 90’s regarding their opinion of her.

My current opinion of here is no worse than in the 90’s, and she is certainly qualified for the office she is campaigning for.

My reasons are strictly personal: once she is officially nominated, the political discourse and level of media whining, pissing and hyperventilating are going to get so ugly that I will probably have to give up on my favorite hobby, namely following politics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:10:46am

re: #363 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Rupert Murdoch and Jerry Hall announce engagement

???

At least he is not likely to get caught cheating on her like Mick did with that Brazilian fashion model…

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:16:51am

re: #248 Decatur Deb

Bernie is the cheerleader you lust after. HRC is the glockenspiel player you’re going to marry.

I caught a bit of Savannah Guthrie (Today Show) interview Biden this morning and she asked him about that comment about Bernie. He clarified and said that Bernie has made income equality and banking issues his life work…for as long as they have known each other. He said it was a comment about the comparison between the two. Hillary has worked more in foreign affairs, women’s issues, health etc.

But people are going to hear in the comment what they want to hear.

Here is a link to the Today Show interview. All interviews with Biden are worth watching. The Today show did their whole first two hours from the White House. Other parts of show are available at the link.

Savannah Guthrie Interviews Joe Biden - Jan 12, 2016

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:21:52am
Proctor explains that ignorance can often be propagated under the guise of balanced debate. For example, the common idea that there will always be two opposing views does not always result in a rational conclusion. This was behind how tobacco firms used science to make their products look harmless, and is used today by climate change deniers to argue against the scientific evidence.

also Paged.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:25:15am

re: #367 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

also Paged.

I think it was John Oliver who pointed out that although 97 out of 100 scientists support current climate change theories and 99 out of 100 support Evolution, they always bring on just one person from each viewpoint on the air at a time.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:27:42am
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Timothy Watson  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:28:42am

re: #369 lawhawk

The Federal Reserve has given us liberal-style, trickle down economics.

lolwhut

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:30:37am

re: #370 Timothy Watson

lolwhut

lolwhut the fuck?

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:32:32am

re: #313 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Donald Trump: The Chinese Sure Knew How to Display Toughness at Tiananmen Square

Can you imagine how Trump would have handled the Kent State protests in 1970? It was bad enough under Ohio Governor Rhodes and President Nixon. Under Trump it wouldn’t even matter that the was an Ohio Governor (Kasich!) he would send in the Army/National Guard and shut down the college and then shot anyone still around.

“So we killed some damn stinky hippie kid losers, big deal. They got what they deserved and it sends a message to the rest of the lazy trash.”

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:36:49am

re: #370 Timothy Watson

lolwhut

Exactly, WFT does that mean? The rethugs are really going down the rabbit hole with the “words mean exactly what I say they mean,” derpidtude.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:37:40am

re: #373 Le Lapin Tueur

Exactly, WFT does that mean? The rethugs are really going down the rabbit hole with the “words mean exactly what I say they mean,” derpidtude.

Because they are appealing only to an audience who already agrees with what they say, no matter how they phrase it.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:38:07am
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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:38:08am

re: #336 makeitstop

I notice that with my laptop (Win 10, running Chrome), longer threads have gotten balky since I turned off Ad Blocker for this site, and the Flash plugin stops, then starts, then hangs, then sits there, then crashes - at which point the site starts breezing right along.

My semi-serious request for Charles - could we just get a kill switch for Flash and be done with it?

I’m being facetious - it really doesn’t bother me that much.

Do what I do, keep a tab open with the Chrome PlugIns page. Enable/Disable Flash as needed. It works great. I keep Flash off as a default and then enable as needed. It really is not needed that much for LGF.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:39:55am

re: #375 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Here is a twist:
Lax gun laws in Indiana fuel gun violence in Chicago

It is a common RW meme that Chicago has tough guns laws but high rates of crime.

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withak  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:40:19am

re: #376 ObserverArt

Do what I do, keep am tab open with the Chrome PlugIns page. Enable/Disable Flash as needed. It works great. I keep Flash off as a default and then enable as needed. It really is not needed that much for LGF.

Even better, make Flash click-to-play.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:40:36am

re: #368 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I think it was John Oliver who pointed out that although 97 out of 100 scientists support current climate change theories and 99 out of 100 support Evolution, they always bring on just one person from each viewpoint on the air at a time.

I think this is what we used to call the Magical Balance Fairy Act or False Equivalence.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:41:49am

re: #377 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is a common RW meme that Chicago has tough guns laws but high rates of crime.

which is true.

IT is also true that gun crimes are also unevenly used and often buried in a plea deal.

Indiana, OTOH, has few laws to break.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:43:58am
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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:46:54am
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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:48:03am

re: #378 withak

Even better, make Flash click-to-play.

Yeah…that too! I just got in the habit of having the tab open. It seemed to me the browsers just run better without it, where it seemed a bit slower with the click to play.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:48:42am

re: #375 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Here is a twist:
Lax gun laws in Indiana fuel gun violence in Chicago

Virginia’s laws definitely effect gun violence in DC. Those who bitch about D.C and CHicago’s gun laws act like we all live in vaccums and someone who wants a gun can’t go to a place that has lax gun laws and get a weapon. That frankly to me is a good argument for centralized gun laws.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:48:48am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:49:30am

re: #375 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Here is a twist:
Lax gun laws in Indiana fuel gun violence in Chicago

AL JAZEERA IS JUST AYE-RAB MOOSLIM PROPAGANDA TRYIN’ TO WEAKEN ‘MURICA FOR TH JEE-HAD

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:50:05am

Of course, my all time favorite is that stupid meme that claims the high rates of gun violence are all in what happens to be the 2004 presidential election map because you know the upper range of Minnesota is filled with gun violence.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:50:30am

re: #386 FormerDirtDart

AL JAZEERA IS JUST AYE-RAB MOOSLIM PROPAGANDA TRYIN’ TO WEAKEN ‘MURICA FOR TH JEE-HAD

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Their moniker starts with “fact-based”.

made me snicker

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:50:50am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

Of course, my all time favorite is that stupid meme that claims the high rates of gun violence are all in what happens to be the 2004 presidential election map because you know the upper range of Minnesota is filled with gun violence.

Hey, they are protecting us from Canada!

:)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:50:57am

re: #387 HappyWarrior

Of course, my all time favorite is that stupid meme that claims the high rates of gun violence are all in what happens to be the 2004 presidential election map because you know the upper range of Minnesota is filled with gun violence.

Self defense against gangs of rampaging fermented-berry drunk moose.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:51:54am

re: #390 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Self defense against gangs of rampaging fermented-berry drunk moose.

I thought they just got stuck in trees.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:52:09am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

once she is officially nominated, the political discourse and level of media whining, pissing and hyperventilating are going to get so ugly

and that’s just coming from the Bernie supporters!
:)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:52:09am

So I see that Obama apparently personally helped out Biden when Beau was sick. That’s beautiful. I always felt that Biden and Obama had a relationship that went beyond politics. I think there’s a lot of genuine love and respect between both men and their families.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:53:17am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Well tonight’s my first day of creative writing class. Not really nervous since this is just for fun and to sharpen up my skills.

I for one am expecting to see the results here.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:54:35am

I see GGT mentioned the weather. I wonder how the rest of the lizards are doing?

Here in Columbus we are having our first decent snow of the season. Probably two plus inches so far this morning. Forecast is for strong Southwest winds to pick up throughout the day thus dropping temps to a low of 5° tonight (wind chill of -5°) through tomorrow morning. Brrr.

Thankfully back up to high 30s and low 40s later in the week. Half way through January…I’ll take it. Groundhog days is fast approaching…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:55:47am

re: #394 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I for one am expecting to see the results here.

I’ve never actually done any before. Most of my past writing has been non-fiction but I’ve always wanted to write a collection of short stories ala Dubliners.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:56:12am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Virginia’s laws definitely effect gun violence in DC. Those who bitch about D.C and CHicago’s gun laws act like we all live in vaccums and someone who wants a gun can’t go to a place that has lax gun laws and get a weapon. That frankly to me is a good argument for centralized gun laws.

WARNING: SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!

WARNING: SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!

WARNING: SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!

Probably caused by some damn liberal thinking./

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:00:38am

re: #397 ObserverArt

WARNING: SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!

WARNING: SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!

WARNING: SLIPPERY SLOPE!!!

Probably caused bu some damn liberal thinking./

Run penguin slide

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:01:03am

re: #369 lawhawk

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It is quite fortuitous that their minions have the memory span of a goldfish or these people would sound real foolish, as they do to people not afflicted with memory problems.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:01:27am

morning nap time

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:02:59am

re: #331 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

yup, these people need to learn what century it is. We need the birds a hell of a lot more than we need humans right now.

Gee, why would the cattle need more land to graze upon? Is it perhaps because they’ve overgrazed the land that family actually owns?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:08:18am

re: #401 Targetpractice

Do cattle really need humans around? I think from their perspective, we’re more of a hindrance.

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makeitstop  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:08:42am

re: #395 ObserverArt

I see GGT mentioned the weather. I wonder how the rest of the lizards are doing?

Here in Columbus we are having our first decent snow of the season. Probably two plus inches so far this morning. Forecast is for strong Southwest winds to pick up throughout the day thus dropping temps to a low of 5° tonight (wind chill of -5°) through tomorrow morning. Brrr.

Thankfully back up to high 30s and low 40s later in the week. Half way through January…I’ll take it. Groundhog days is fast approaching…

Cold here this morning, but we’re expecting a high in the mid-forties today. We might get some snow in the evening, but it’s not supposed to be anything of consequence.

Even if we did get a substantial snowfall, I think I’d be okay with it. We’ve kinda dodged that bullet here this Winter and we’re probably due.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:12:12am

Outstanding headline:

Outstanding headline
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:14:33am

re: #401 Targetpractice

Gee, why would the cattle need more land to graze upon? Is it perhaps because they’ve overgrazed the land that family actually owns?

It is the same logic that justified settlers taking land from the Native Americans: the natives were not using it to any productive purpose, so we had every right to take it from them. Ditto for fine grazing land that the tyrannical Federal government is just wasting on birds.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:14:34am

re: #404 Dr. Matt

Outstanding headline:

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Murdoch’s fourth marriage.

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EmmaAnne  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:16:45am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

My current opinion of here is no worse than in the 90’s, and she is certainly qualified for the office she is campaigning for.

My reasons are strictly personal: once she is officially nominated, the political discourse and level of media whining, pissing and hyperventilating are going to get so ugly that I will probably have to give up on my favorite hobby, namely following politics.

I remember when that was an argument for Obama - he was new and low key (no drama Obama) and therefore Republicans would be less crazed and more willing to work with him. Having seen how that worked out, I am confident that Republican will bring the crazy and the hate for whoever the Dem nom is.

Actually, being an old, I remember when Bill Clinton was considered a good choice to work with repubs. Southern, DNC, personable. They sure figured out how to hate him.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:16:55am

re: #406 Timothy Watson

Murdoch’s fourth marriage.

Family Values!

Many family values. 4 of them!

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makeitstop  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:16:56am

re: #404 Dr. Matt

Outstanding headline:

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Top Facebook comment so far: ‘Well, she’s a Texan. She’ll probably shag him to death by Easter.’

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:17:26am

re: #406 Timothy Watson

Murdoch’s fourth marriage.

#FamilyValues

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calochortus  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:17:56am

re: #402 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Do cattle really need humans around? I think from their perspective, we’re more of a hindrance.

From the individual bovine’s perspective we might be annoying, but from a species’ perspective, humans have made cattle one of the most successful mammals ever. We feed them, remove the competing species, protect them from predators and have moved them all over the planet.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:18:32am

re: #407 EmmaAnne

I remember when that was an argument for Obama - he was new and low key (no drama Obama) and therefore Republicans would be less crazed and more willing to work with him. Having seen how that worked out, I am confident that Republican will bring the crazy and the hate for whoever the Dem nom is.

Actually, being an old, I remember when Bill Clinton was considered a good choice to work with repubs. Southern, DNC, personable. They sure figured out how to hate him.

Sanders will be a Socialist, and therefore a Communist. They can hate on anyone they choose to for anything they want.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:18:56am

re: #405 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is the same logic that justified settlers taking land from the Native Americans: the natives were not using it to any productive purpose, so we had every right to take it from them. Ditto for fine grazing land that the tyrannical Federal government is just wasting on birds.

Ayep, it’s a very conservative mindset, the one that says “It could be used to make somebody money!” The government owns an area that’s most desert? Why, some farmer could pipe water hundreds of miles to it and turn it into more farmland! Or a mining company could come in and strip mine! Or hell, there might be oil under there, we need to drill/frack our little hearts out!

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:19:13am

re: #411 calochortus

From the individual bovine’s perspective we might be annoying, but from a species’ perspective, humans have made cattle one of the most successful mammals ever. We feed them, remove the competing species, protect them from predators and have moved them all over the planet.

And could cows handle not having their human protectors?

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:19:47am

re: #407 EmmaAnne

I remember when that was an argument for Obama - he was new and low key (no drama Obama) and therefore Republicans would be less crazed and more willing to work with him. Having seen how that worked out, I am confident that Republican will bring the crazy and the hate for whoever the Dem nom is.

Actually, being an old, I remember when Bill Clinton was considered a good choice to work with repubs. Southern, DNC, personable. They sure figured out how to hate him.

I think some big guy on radio had a lot to do with that. Let me think. Yeah, that’s right…Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh.

Taking down Clintons and making them the most evil beings ever was his whole gig.

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calochortus  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:20:11am

re: #413 Targetpractice

Ayep, it’s a very conservative mindset, the one that says “It could be used to make somebody money!” The government owns an area that’s most desert? Why, some farmer government could pipe water hundreds of miles to it for the farmer and turn it into more farmland! Or a mining company could come in and strip mine! Or hell, there might be oil under there, we need to drill/frack our little hearts out!

Fixed.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:20:21am

re: #411 calochortus

From the individual bovine’s perspective we might be annoying, but from a species’ perspective, humans have made cattle one of the most successful mammals ever. We feed them, remove the competing species, protect them from predators and have moved them all over the planet.

Yep, we pretty much exterminated the wolf in the continental United States to protect livestock.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:21:00am

re: #414 Belafon

And could cows handle not having their human protectors?

Dairy cow breeds are probably too devolved to survive on their own, but range cattle have little contact with humans except at roundup.

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calochortus  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:21:13am

re: #414 Belafon

And could cows handle not having their human protectors?

I imagine it depends. Dairy cattle might have a lot more trouble with it than range cattle.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:21:19am

OFFS

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calochortus  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:22:19am

re: #418 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Dairy cow breeds are probably too devolved to survive on their own, but range cattle have little contact with humans except at roundup.

13 seconds. Must type faster.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:22:57am

re: #407 EmmaAnne

Actually, being an old, I remember when Bill Clinton was considered a good choice to work with repubs. Southern, DNC, personable. They sure figured out how to hate him.

Conservatives are perpetual children and sore losers. They will hate anyone with a ‘D’ after their name. Conservatives actually believe a ‘D’ never belongs in the White House. They are like Yankee fans that believe the Commissioner’s Trophy is theirs.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:23:46am

re: #420 lawhawk

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OFFS

Why? They might get all crazy and yell “LIAR” out at some point in the proceedings?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:24:10am

re: #420 lawhawk

Ben Carson calls for investigation of Muslim guests attending State of the Union

An UNemployed M.D. calling for an investigation….what.fucking.nerve.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:24:13am

re: #421 calochortus

13 seconds. Must type faster.

Your fingers are obviously more adept at milking…

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calochortus  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:24:46am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Your fingers are obviously more adept at milking…

LOL.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:25:35am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Your fingers are obviously more adept at milking…

“You fight like a dairy farmer”?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:30:15am

re: #420 lawhawk

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OFFS

WTF.

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makeitstop  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:30:50am

re: #424 Dr. Matt

An UNemployed M.D. calling for an investigation….what.fucking.nerve.

Seriously. He’s obviously been reading old articles from back when he was a little bit relevant.

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withak  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:31:17am

re: #420 lawhawk

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OFFS

loook at meeeeeeee, I’m still relevant! I can say offensive things still!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:35:05am

Looks like the Bundy crew are trying to win favor with the Dudebros, searching illegally obtained government documents and such. Waiting for Snowden to weigh in from his comfortable dacha in Russia….

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:40:52am
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Jenner7  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:40:59am

Glenn Beck said on his program that Hillary’s national numbers against Bernie have disappeared, she’s down double digits in NH, and Dems are so panicked they are considering Elizabeth Warren to get into the race. Then he said “Joe Scarborough…” and I turned it off.

Where do they get this stuff? Oh yeah, out of their ass.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:42:28am

re: #433 Jenner7

Glenn Beck said on his program that Hillary’s national numbers against Bernie have disappeared, she’s down double digits in NH, and Dems are so panicked they are considering Elizabeth Warren to get into the race. Then he said “Joe Scarborough…” and I turned it off.

Where do they get this stuff? Oh yeah, out of their ass.

He really should be worried about his own damn party.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:43:06am

re: #432 lawhawk

Why are white people scared about becoming a minority in the 2040’s? Are minorities treated badly in America or something?

White people fear revenge?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:43:10am

SCOTUS 8-1 ruling with only Justice Alito dissenting, and following the Florida Supreme Court’s broader employment of retroactivity doctrine the ruling may, or may not Florida’s entire death row.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:44:33am

re: #431 Blind Frog Belly White

Looks like the Bundy crew are trying to win favor with the Dudebros, searching illegally obtained government documents and such. Waiting for Snowden to weigh in from his comfortable dacha in Russia….

Bundy saying he’s sure there’s evidence in the files that will exonerate the Hammonds. Yeah, I’m sure the BLM keeps records that say “We deliberately burned 130 acres of our own land to blame on some two-bit rancher, then bribed/extorted their own kin to lie on the stand about the fire being set to cover up evidence of poaching, simply to put the guy in prison for 5 years, bankrupting him so that we can finally buy his land from him and add it to our own.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:46:13am

re: #436 FormerDirtDart

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SCOTUS 8-1 ruling with only Justice Alito dissenting, and following the Florida Supreme Court’s broader employment of retroactivity doctrine the ruling may, or may not Florida’s entire death row.

If you’ve lost Thomas and Scalia………….

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No Depression  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:46:51am

Paris Saint-Germain, a French soccer club, isn’t too happy with British rapper M.I.A for wearing this doctored version of their jersey in her new “Borders” music video about the refugee crisis:

They sent her a long-winded C&D letter that simultaneously whines about the “harm” she’s caused their image and brags about their on-field success, charitable contributions and Facebook followers. Basically, PSG is the Donald Trump of sports teams: thin-skinned, petty and self-aggrandizing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:46:58am

re: #437 Targetpractice

Bundy saying he’s sure there’s evidence in the files that will exonerate the Hammonds. Yeah, I’m sure the BLM keeps records that say “We deliberately burned 130 acres of our own land to blame on some two-bit rancher, then bribed/extorted their own kin to lie on the stand about the fire being set to cover up evidence of poaching, simply to put the guy in prison for 5 years, bankrupting him so that we can finally buy his land from him and add it to our own.”

They’re plain old diabolical and they would have gotten away with it if not for the Hammonds and their dumb dog too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:47:05am

re: #437 Targetpractice

Bundy saying he’s sure there’s evidence in the files that will exonerate the Hammonds. Yeah, I’m sure the BLM keeps records that say “We deliberately burned 130 acres of our own land to blame on some two-bit rancher, then bribed/extorted their own kin to lie on the stand about the fire being set to cover up evidence of poaching, simply to put the guy in prison for 5 years, bankrupting him so that we can finally buy his land from him and add it to our own.”

and that these files are going to be accessible from a computer at a wildlife refuge….

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:47:45am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:48:39am

re: #442 Dr. Matt

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Yeah but he made conservatives feel good about being resentful assholes and Obama didn’t so he’s okay.

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JDRhoades  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:49:15am

re: #11 EPR-radar

Online forums have always put up with a lot more from wingnuts than they do from liberals who cross the line, for the very reason that even the mildest sanction against one of their sick tribe draws down a firestorm of loons screaming “censorship” and threatening retaliation.

Say what you like about bullying, it works.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:49:38am

re: #436 FormerDirtDart

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SCOTUS 8-1 ruling with only Justice Alito dissenting, and following the Florida Supreme Court’s broader employment of retroactivity doctrine the ruling may, or may not Florida’s entire death row.

I guess it should come as no surprise that Alito is the sole dissenting vote, considering in the majority opinion on a case last summer on the usage of second-rate lethal injection drugs, he actually argued that lethal injection should be painful because capital punishment is supposed to be painful.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:50:49am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

Yeah but he made conservatives feel good about being resentful assholes and Obama didn’t so he’s okay.

And, of course, his skin tone is the appropriate and accepted hue.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:50:49am

re: #442 Dr. Matt

You are talking about the real Ronald Reagan, not the viewed-through-rose-colored-glasses-idealized-version Reagan.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:51:08am

re: #445 Targetpractice

I guess it should come as no surprise that Alito is the sole dissenting vote, considering in the majority opinion on a case last summer on the usage of second-rate lethal injection drugs, he actually argued that lethal injection should be painful because capital punishment is supposed to be painful.

And here I thought Scalia and Thomas were the biggest assholes on the court. Something wrong with that guy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:51:27am

re: #446 Dr. Matt

And, of course, his skin tone is the appropriate and accepted hue.

Of course, that’s part of why.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:51:45am

re: #447 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You are talking about the real Ronald Reagan, not the viewed-through-rose-colored-glasses-idealized-version Reagan.

There’s that too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:52:06am

re: #445 Targetpractice

I guess it should come as no surprise that Alito is the sole dissenting vote, considering in the majority opinion on a case last summer on the usage of second-rate lethal injection drugs, he actually argued that lethal injection should be painful because capital punishment is supposed to be painful.

Just not cruel or unusual…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:54:02am

re: #451 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just not cruel or unusual…

IT’S ONLY UNUSUAL BECAUSE WE DON’T DO IT OFTEN ENOUGH!!!

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Dr. Matt  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:54:31am

re: #447 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You are talking about the real Ronald Reagan, not the viewed-through-rose-colored-glasses-idealized-version Reagan.

Case in point: Would Reagan Be Nominated Today? The gymnastics and tap dancing to make Raygun out as a modern day conservative is quite amazing.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:54:35am

re: #436 FormerDirtDart

Goes to how the death penalty is applied. The Court said the state law that allows the judge to determine applicability of death penalty violates the 6th. It is the job of jury to determine applicability.

The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday declared Florida’s death penalty law unconstitutional because it requires the trial judge and not the jury to make the critical findings necessary to impose capital punishment.

That’s at odds with a string of Supreme Court cases which held that facts that add to a defendant’s punishment — known as aggravating circumstances — must be found by a jury.

“The Sixth Amendment requires a jury, not a judge, to find each fact necessary to impose a sentence of death. A jury’s mere recommendation is not enough,” wrote Sonia Sotomayor for the court’s 8-1 majority.

The ruling means the case of Timothy Lee Hurst, who was convicted of the stabbing murder of his co-worker in 1998, goes back to the lower courts.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:56:24am

One could earn a Ph.D in derpology just specializing in Cruz-enfruede:

Ted Cruz’s Macbeth Problem

Whether Ted Cruz would make a good president is a separate issue from whether he is eligible to be president. But both questions have this in common: They are for the people to decide.

Good thing we didn’t waste money on things like courts and such.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:56:54am

re: #453 Dr. Matt

Case in point: Would Reagan Be Nominated Today? The gymnastics and tap dancing to make Raygun out as a modern day conservative is quite amazing.

His opponents would bring up that he signed a pro-choice bill, had gay friends in Hollyweird, and that he was in charge of a hated union. He couldn’t charm his way out of the modern GOP.

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Dave80  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:57:57am

re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)
What really fascinates me about this. Is that they probably actually believe it’s true. That the BLM does things like this, that the Federal Govt does nefarious thing because of “Agenda 21” or whatever, that it would then keep records of this that are accessible from a wildlife refuge etc etc. It’s so mindbogglingly dumb and yet they really believe it.

Worse been in the military and worked for federal govt as a civilian at one point and worked with people that believe things like this. It blue screens of death my brain. Really they should know better. It’s not that it never does anything nefarious but that the things it does are typical of any large organization. When I was a teen had a bit of attraction to conspiracy theories, grew up watching X-files after all, after a few years in the army was completely cured of that tendency.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:58:13am

re: #440 HappyWarrior

They’re plain old diabolical and they would have gotten away with it if not for the Hammonds and their dumb dog too.

I think they have a pet sheep, if you know what I mean.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:58:32am

re: #453 Dr. Matt

Case in point: Would Reagan Be Nominated Today? The gymnastics and tap dancing to make Raygun out as a modern day conservative is quite amazing.

Reagan signed the California Therapeutic Abortion law. He’d be fucked.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:00:04am

re: #459 Blind Frog Belly White

Reagan signed the California Therapeutic Abortion law. He’d be fucked.

Yep. Reagan would probably be where Kasich or Bush is now. Not quite at the little kid’s table but he definitely wouldn’t be Mr. Popularity with the right wing.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:01:05am

re: #445 Targetpractice

I guess it should come as no surprise that Alito is the sole dissenting vote, considering in the majority opinion on a case last summer on the usage of second-rate lethal injection drugs, he actually argued that lethal injection should be painful because capital punishment is supposed to be painful.

And this person is supposed to uphold and rule of the constitution?

“Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:02:37am

re: #453 Dr. Matt

Reagan’s a RINO in the current GOP tent. The biggest differentiation between Reagan and the rest of the GOP is that Reagan’s positive outlook is completely at odds with an angry GOP that thinks our best days are behind us. He was a governor of a big state, and at least showed he had some executive branch experience. The clown car is being driven by a demagogue/racist/misogynist whose experience amounts to shouting at people if he doesn’t get his way (Trump).

Make America Great Again indicates we aren’t great. Reagan’s Shining City on the Hill implies we are that city on the hill, and that we’re striving to do as well or better.

The rest of the GOP candidates can’t get out of their own way to denounce the nation and its direction (even when the economy is doing well, Main Street isn’t getting hammered by high oil prices, etc.) because all roads lead to anti-Obama rhetoric, and by extension, smearing Hillary.

Outlooks matter. It’s why Bill Clinton focused on the economy. That’s what matters, and the GOP has tapped into anger and angst, but the facts don’t support all that anger/angst. Hillary and the Democrats can’t count on a media to separate the BS from the facts on the economy or anything else that matters in this election. And she’s got to do better at convincing people she’s going to hold the line against a GOP that is intent on rolling back every social policy and program from Medicare/Medicaid to Social Security and Obamacare - shifting the burden from the rich on to everyone else.

While there’s an enthusiasm gap between GOPers and Democrats for their respective candidates, Democrats have got to rally around Hillary who is more electable. The alternative is a rollback of everything that Democrats stand for - particularly if Democrats can’t regain control of at least the House or Senate.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:02:45am

re: #461 Eventual Carrion

And this person is supposed to uphold and rule of the constitution?

“Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

There is only one amendment to the constitution, and that is the second.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:05:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:05:46am

re: #463 Belafon

There is only one amendment to the constitution, and that is the second.

And there is only one clause to that Amendment that counts, and it is the second one.

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sagehen  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:05:56am

Meet The White Supremacists Who See Trump As Their ‘Great White Hope’
talkingpointsmemo.com

William Daniel Johnson has a vision for America. The Los Angeles-based lawyer thinks that the United States will see the creation of a white ethno-state within his lifetime.

“I think Trump’s candidacy is helping move us in that direction,” Johnson said in a Monday phone interview with TPM. “Whether he is elected or not, his candidacy is a big factor in helping destroy this middle-of-the-road Republican mindset.”

Johnson is the chairman of the American Freedom Party, a white nationalist political party, and the founder of a super PAC that plans to blanket early voting states with robocalls encouraging voters to turn out for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.

According to a 2008 article in the Metropolitan News-Enterprise, a Los Angeles daily focused on law and the courts, Johnson made waves as a young attorney after he was revealed to be the author behind a pseuodonymously published book that advocated repealing the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments. “Amendment to the Constitution,” published in 1985 under the pen name James O. Pace, laid out Johnson’s proposal that “No person shall be a citizen of the United States unless he is a non-Hispanic white of the European race…Only citizens shall have the right and privilege to reside permanently in the United States.”

Taylor also serves as the spokesman for the Council of Concerned Citizens, a white nationalist group Charleston shooter Dylann Roof credited with making him aware of the problem of “brutal black on White murders” in the U.S.

After Roof gunned down nine parishioners at a historically black church in June 2015, Taylor condemned the killings but defended the “legitimacy” of Roof’s grievances.

In a Monday phone interview with TPM, Taylor called Trump “the first candidate in many, many years to take positions that may in fact be beneficial to the white majority.”

He seems nice.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:08:09am

re: #464 freetoken

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Yes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:11:24am

re: #464 freetoken

New word: cruzenfruede (cruz*en*free*de) - the joy from watching wingnuts argue over Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be POTUS. ]

They are trying to make it sound like it is originating from the Democratic camp (which might make sense in a less insane political climate), but it isn’t…jut like the folks who claim that the Clintons convinced Trump to run.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:12:33am

re: #468 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They are trying to make it sound like it is coming from the Democratic camp (which might make sense in a less insane political climate), but it isn’t…

Hell Preibus couldn’t even say Cruz was a NBC. They can try to blame the Dems all they want but it’s obvious that they’re cannibalizing Cruz.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:14:13am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:17:22am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:18:30am

re: #470 FormerDirtDart

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But dog made them to fit perfectly in our hands. Why does s/he want to take them away? Gay marriage?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:18:41am

re: #471 Dave In Austin

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Hahaha very true.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:19:21am

re: #468 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They are trying to make it sound like it is originating from the Democratic camp (which might make sense in a less insane political climate), but it isn’t…jut like the folks who claim that the Clintons convinced Trump to run.

It only makes sense that the guy who is running as the wingnut candidate would try the exact same tactic that wingnuts used in ‘08, namely creating a lie that they then pinned on Democrats but kept repeating because it was politically advantageous to do so.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:20:34am

Among the polls out today of course the Monmouth NH Dem poll is hot, because it shows Sanders with a huge lead, but I find more interesting the PPP poll of Republicans in Iowa:

Scribd Document

I find it interesting because the results are nearly identical to their results from the same polling one month ago.

This implies that, at least by the PPP methods, that the popularity rankings have basically frozen in Iowa (along with the outdoor temps.)

For all the zillions being spent on campaign ads, perhaps the results of the caucus are pretty much set by now? That is, no matter how much campaigning in done between now and Feb 1, the Iowa Republicans seem to have made up their collective minds.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:21:42am

Um …

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:23:06am

re: #476 goddamnedfrank

Um …

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The same geniuses who believed Obama was born in Hawaii but don’t think Obama was born in the U.S. I’m sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:23:07am

Meanwhile in Greater Cincinnati right now:

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:23:12am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:23:42am

re: #479 lawhawk

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Bitter much Senator Warmongrel?

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:26:23am

re: #476 goddamnedfrank

If you look at question 26 of the poll, 47% of the respondents say that someone born outside the US should not be President of the US.

Question 27 then goes on to plainly state that Cruz was born in Canada and then asks if that makes a difference. 24% say it makes them less likely to support Cruz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:26:57am

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile in Greater Cincinnati right now:

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The crashes stretch for about three miles from mile marker 168 in Indiana to the Ohio state line, police said.

wlwt.com

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:26:59am

We may not like Donald Trump, but he is not ignorant.

Trump knows that he can chip away at Cruz support over this question of birth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:28:21am

re: #483 freetoken

We may not like Donald Trump, but he is not ignorant.

Trump knows that he can chip away at Cruz support over this question of birth.

Karl Rove tried to warn the GOP years ago that birtherism was a trap, but even he probably did not realize what a deeply-seated disease it was in his party.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:28:43am

re: #483 freetoken

We may not like Donald Trump, but he is not ignorant.

Trump knows that he can chip away at Cruz support over this question of birth.

Oh definitely, Trump understands what makes Republican voters tick. He hasn’t gotten to frontrunner status by being unaware of their bigotry.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:29:02am

Question 24 clearly asks if Obama was born in the US.

Only 28% said yes.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:29:26am

Color me weird, but I think that could be a headline in itself.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:30:25am

re: #486 freetoken

Question 24 clearly asks if Obama was born in the US.

Only 28% said yes.

The inverse crazification factor?

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:31:54am

re: #488 Timothy Watson

The inverse crazification factor?

Question 35: President Obama teared up while announcing an executive action on gun control this week. Do you think his tears were sincere, or do you think he faked them?

69% responded the tears were fake.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:32:47am

Just look at all that goodwill Cruz bought himself by being the one candidate who refused to attack Trump LOL.

Trump has thrown the poor guy so far under the bus it’s impossible for him to even nominate Cruz as his VP.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:33:48am

Well, I guess this means the Feds can slap on a conspiracy charge when/if they get around to preferring charges

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:33:59am

re: #479 lawhawk

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Oh yeah, great idea, John. Perhaps it should be the chair next to the Syrian refugee who has been invited, with a little plaque saying “All your fellow countrymen who died because of the asshats in Congress who wanted this war because don’t want me to fight it.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:34:48am

re: #491 FormerDirtDart

Well, I guess this means the Feds can slap on a conspiracy charge when/in they get around to preferring charges

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I really can’t wait to see this little shithead in handcuffs and in an orange jumpsuit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:35:10am

re: #489 freetoken

Question 35: President Obama teared up while announcing an executive action on gun control this week. Do you think his tears were sincere, or do you think he faked them?

69% responded the tears were fake.

Of course, Republicans believe the worst about Obama.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:36:23am

re: #305 Kent Dorfman

“It puts the lotion in the basket”

They need a better real estate agent. That should be a selling point not a hindrance. “Dude, this house is FAMOUS! Do you know the amazing people who stood in this very spot!”

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:36:48am

re: #455 freetoken

One could earn a Ph.D in derpology just specializing in Cruz-enfruede:

Ted Cruz’s Macbeth Problem

Good thing we didn’t waste money on things like courts and such.

Courts are oppressive and taking my rights away and have I told you how much I love the US Constitution more than you do?

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:39:04am

Also in that PPP poll - the Trump supporters respond that they are the most set for their candidate, less fluid than supporters of other candidates, including Cruz, whose supporters are about set in their ways as Paul and Carson supporters.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:40:27am

re: #497 freetoken

Also in that PPP poll - the Trump supporters respond that they are the most set for their candidate, less fluid than supporters of other candidates, including Cruz, whose supporters are about set in their ways as Paul and Carson supporters.

I think that’s quite important. Trump appears if the polls are accurate appears to have built up a loyal following.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:40:30am

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

Meanwhile in Greater Cincinnati right now:

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No surprise that happened. About a half hour ago I looked out the window and couldn’t even see the houses across the street. Total whiteout. Blowing driving snow in strong winds. I bet if people were caught in that on the highway in this state’s first big snow panic would set in.

Suns out right now, snow may be over. I’m getting ready to head out to do some shoveling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:41:34am
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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:41:37am

Exhibit A on why health care, insurance, and provisioning of care is screwed up in the US.

When even the VP faces the possibility of having to sell their home and liquidate assets to make sure that they’ve got the funds to provide for a loved one’s health care, you know that the costs are out of control.

Someone with lesser means would have had to sell their home. Or declare bankruptcy. Or have to figure out some way to reduce their health care costs, which would likely reduce their quality of life and shorten the life of their loved one.

Obamacare only begins to bend those health care costs, but much more must be done.

What is the GOP response to this? Repeal Obamacare and return to the pre-ACA dysfunction that had premiums rising even higher than they are since the ACA took effect, and covered fewer people for less service.

We need to see how much medical related stuff costs - even more transparency. If you know that Procedure X costs $100,000 in one hospital, but $50,000 in another, with the same outcome, why would you go to the first hospital?

For instance, see this article, where the highest costs can be nearly $200,000 while the lowest cost for the same procedure is $15,000.

Then there are the drug costs, and as we’ve also seen, they’re manipulated by people who put their personal profits ahead of providing a social good. Never mind that many of these drugs are now generic, but pharmaceutical companies have figured out ways to extend the patent protections by compounding them with other drugs to create new formulations that are more expensive b/c of exclusivity, but not necessarily more successful at treating the condition.

There’s also the insane high costs to learn to be a doctor, and the doctors’ need to pay off said loans (which can be hundreds of thousands of dollars) and shift interest from general practice where the loan payoff will be decades to specialties where the payoff can be much quicker.

Home health care workers aren’t paid enough to do the work they do. Same goes for staff at nursing homes, rehab centers, and there aren’t enough people on staff to provide what should be a proper level of care. And as the nation ages, those classes of workers will be even more pressured to do more with less pay.

All these burdens/issues on the health care system, and the GOP solution is to think only of trashing the safety net, including Obamacare.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:42:15am

re: #500 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cute kid. Anti-vaxxers are such assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:42:23am

re: #499 ObserverArt

No surprise that happened. About a half hour ago I looked out the window and couldn’t even see the houses across the street. Total whiteout. Blowing driving snow in strong winds. I bet if people were caught in that on the highway in this state’s first big snow panic would set in.

Suns out right now, snow may be over. I’m getting ready to head out to do some shoveling.

NWS in Wilmington posted this about your white-out:

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iossarian  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:43:31am

re: #501 lawhawk

Current US health system -> money goes to rich people -> money goes to GOP -> senate supermajority impossible to achieve -> current US health system

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:44:20am

re: #483 freetoken

We may not like Donald Trump, but he is not ignorant.

Trump knows that he can chip away at Cruz support over this question of birth.

I think he is doing everything he can to win Iowa which would possibly deal a blow to the Cruz campaign that he possibly would never recover from and if Trump does win New Hampshire, Cruz will be hurting bad.

My question is…how long will Cruz remain an admirer or Trump before he realizes he needs to get nasty?

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iossarian  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:44:23am

Oh, and: Supreme Court thinks that poor people being able to see the doctor would have made Thomas Jefferson cry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:44:42am

re: #495 WhatEVs

They need a better real estate agent. That should be a selling point not a hindrance. “Dude, this house is FAMOUS! Do you know the amazing people who stood in this very spot!”

I recall that the fellow who rented the bicycles for the nude shot used to promote the Queen song Bicycle Race tried to sue them for damages…He missed a great opportunity: he should have had each of the girls autograph the seat they sat on and auctioned them off to the highest bidder…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:45:01am

re: #501 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Exhibit A on why health care, insurance, and provisioning of care is screwed up in the US.

When even the VP faces the possibility of having to sell their home and liquidate assets to make sure that they’ve got the funds to provide for a loved one’s health care, you know that the costs are out of control.

Someone with lesser means would have had to sell their home. Or declare bankruptcy. Or have to figure out some way to reduce their health care costs, which would likely reduce their quality of life and shorten the life of their loved one.

Obamacare only begins to bend those health care costs, but much more must be done.

What is the GOP response to this? Repeal Obamacare and return to the pre-ACA dysfunction that had premiums rising even higher than they are since the ACA took effect, and covered fewer people for less service.

We need to see how much medical related stuff costs - even more transparency. If you know that Procedure X costs $100,000 in one hospital, but $50,000 in another, with the same outcome, why would you go to the first hospital?

For instance, see this article, where the highest costs can be nearly $200,000 while the lowest cost for the same procedure is $15,000.

Then there are the drug costs, and as we’ve also seen, they’re manipulated by people who put their personal profits ahead of providing a social good. Never mind that many of these drugs are now generic, but pharmaceutical companies have figured out ways to extend the patent protections by compounding them with other drugs to create new formulations that are more expensive b/c of exclusivity, but not necessarily more successful at treating the condition.

There’s also the insane high costs to learn to be a doctor, and the doctors’ need to pay off said loans (which can be hundreds of thousands of dollars) and shift interest from general practice where the loan payoff will be decades to specialties where the payoff can be much quicker.

Home health care workers aren’t paid enough to do the work they do. Same goes for staff at nursing homes, rehab centers, and there aren’t enough people on staff to provide what should be a proper level of care. And as the nation ages, those classes of workers will be even more pressured to do more with less pay.

All these burdens/issues on the health care system, and the GOP solution is to think only of trashing the safety net, including Obamacare.

This is why I’m proud to say I’ve voted for this guy twice. He’s not only a good president but a good person as well. I’ve never seen a President and VP bond like how Obama and Biden have. There’s a lot of respect and also love between the two families that exists. It’s not just political them. As much as I love Biden, I’m glad for his sake he’s not running because I want him to be able to enjoy retirement with his family and have some fun after a long and distinguished career.

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Kryptik  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:45:33am

I’m hardly a ray of sunshine, but goddamn, even by that standard I’m depressed at the spiking xenophobia I see fucking everywhere. Especially whenever someone brings up Europe and the shit about the ‘invaders’ and ‘plague’ come up, treating all immigrants as a mass collective of criminals, rapists, and savages all to the fucking one. Even ostensibly liberal people are jumping on that side to closed border bullshit, and it fucking amazes and depresses me. And trying to plead caution about rushes to judgment about this shit only gets me tarred, mocked, and essentially ostracized, and I can’t get away from it outside of specific safe havens like here, BJ, etc., because it seems like it’s fucking everywhere. I may as well be soaking in it.

I swear, it’s fucking hopeless it seems like. Once again, anything breathless and hyperbolic from the right wing gets treated with the utmost credulity and given as much leeway as possible, but try and talk back against cries of collective guilt and culpabilty, and you’re the greatest fucking horror demon in the history of fucking ever.

I know I sound like a broken record too with this shit, but I’ve been literally driven to screaming in despair over this shit.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:45:41am

re: #484 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Karl Rove tried to warn the GOP years ago that birtherism was a trap, but even he probably did not realize that what a deeply-seated disease it was in his party is diseased.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:45:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:46:51am

re: #511 lawhawk

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You want tone Deminted? How about the tone your party has shown to this President his entire presidency from the day he took the oath of office you Heritage Foundation hack.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:47:04am

re: #501 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Exhibit A on why health care, insurance, and provisioning of care is screwed up in the US.

When even the VP faces the possibility of having to sell their home and liquidate assets to make sure that they’ve got the funds to provide for a loved one’s health care, you know that the costs are out of control.

Someone with lesser means would have had to sell their home. Or declare bankruptcy. Or have to figure out some way to reduce their health care costs, which would likely reduce their quality of life and shorten the life of their loved one.

That was the case with my sister and bro-in-law, two totally upstanding, hard-working, middle-class, Fox-News-viewing Americans. She had a bout with cancer, he had a nasty car accident and they have had to declare bankruptcy to cover their medical bills.

Sick fucking shit.

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withak  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:47:27am

re: #511 lawhawk

Style over substance, that’s what matters. Got it, GOP.

515
freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:52:14am

re: #505 ObserverArt

Polling shows Cruz with very weak support in NH. So I agree with your statement, which I think everyone sort of accepts as true, that Cruz has to do well in Iowa (at least tie Trump if not win outright.)

Remember, Iowa is a caucus state and the actual end count of the delegates’ commitment depends upon a process of sorting - it starts at a precinct level but then eventually winds up in state convention. Cruz can use his local support from the Vander Plaats machine to husband his delegates all the way through the process.

Now, supposedly for 2016, the process implemented is supposed to make sure the final delegate selection is proportional to what it started out being (this is different than previous years.) But, I wonder if there isn’t a bit of flexibility that will come about when the lesser candidates “suspend” their campaigns before the national conventional. To me that seems like a possible place for loopholes, through which the institutional players will be able to drive their support for, say, Cruz over Trump, if it comes down in the end to those two.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:52:47am

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

NWS in Wilmington posted this about your white-out:

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Yep. That looks even a little bit better than what I saw. Amazing right now it looks nice outside. Powdery white snow all over glistening in the sun. But I know it is deceiving. Probably cold as hell. Will be finding out in a few minutes.

517
Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:53:12am

re: #509 Kryptik

That xenophobic sentiment is common as hell here in the Czech Republic. Even the President spouts it. But there’s a very widespread “no refugees” sentiment here. I’d say 80% to 90% of the population.

518
Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:54:52am

re: #517 Dr Lizardo

That xenophobic sentiment is common as hell here in the Czech Republic. Even the President spouts it. But there’s a very widespread “no refugees” sentiment here. I’d say 80% to 90% of the population.

The Germans are making a lot of other European countries look like assholes…interesting change of pace.

519
ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:57:03am

re: #508 HappyWarrior

This is why I’m proud to say I’ve voted for this guy twice. He’s not only a good president but a good person as well. I’ve never seen a President and VP bond like how Obama and Biden have. There’s a lot of respect and also love between the two families that exists. It’s not just political them. As much as I love Biden, I’m glad for his sake he’s not running because I want him to be able to enjoy retirement with his family and have some fun after a long and distinguished career.

Joe sounded kind of sad in the interview with Savannah Guthrie this morning. He said he is not sad that he isn’t running for President as much as he is sad that since 27 years old he has been working for the people and he sees that coming to an end and that makes him sad the most. Sounds like Joe needs some kind of a political position to keep him going after this year.

Hey…how about Joe takes over the head of the Democratic Party? Maybe too old, but damn he would be so good at something like that. Nobody knows Democratic politics like Joe!

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:57:17am

re: #501 lawhawk

I made the mistake of checking on this story over at FR, figuring there might be some moment of human decency amongst the wingnuts, that they might find it in themselves to applaud the President for looking out for his good friend.

Nope, the majority either believe it’s a hoax, think it “proves” that Obamacare makes healthcare more costly, or think the story becoming public is a way for the White House to needle Hillary because it was Joe they wanted to see run. Only a handful actually expressed approval of the man supporting his friend, and they got met with hostility by those who think it’s a crock.

521
HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:58:07am

re: #519 ObserverArt

Joe sounded kind of sad in the interview with Savannah Guthrie this morning. He said he is not sad that he isn’t running for President as much as he is sad that since 27 years old he has been working for the people and he sees that coming to an end and that makes him sad the most. Sounds like Joe needs some kind of a political position to keep him going after this year.

Hey…how about Joe takes over the head of the Democratic Party? Maybe too old, but damn he would be so good at something like that. Nobody knows Democratic politics like Joe!

DNC Chair, yeah that would be a good gig for him. But yeah he’s been a lifer in this. He wasn’t much older than I am when he got elected to the Senate.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:59:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:01:30am

re: #522 FormerDirtDart

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You first Randy Rand. He’s accomplished more than you ever will.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:02:11am

re: #518 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Germans are making a lot of other European countries look like assholes…interesting change of pace.

Generational changes are striking everywhere.

525
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:02:56am

re: #522 FormerDirtDart

these people, man

526
Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:03:19am

re: #514 withak

Style over substance, that’s what matters. Got it, GOP.

What else have they got by this point? It was just four years ago that the GOP was running against the man, making all sorts of predictions about his reelection that didn’t come to pass. They said the economy would crash, but it has only gotten better. They said we should get used to 8% unemployment under a second Obama term, but it’s now down to 5%. They predicted gas prices above $4/gal if he was reelected, but they’re now below $2. All sorts of foreign policy doom and gloom that has failed to come to pass.

And so now, the state of the union is stronger than when the man took office, leaving them with nothing to do but declare that the man’s tone is what really matters.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:03:38am

re: #522 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

Dear Rand Paul,

Please go away you egotistical little twit. No one likes you, when the hell are you going to be able to figure that out?

Signed,

Me.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:03:57am


Better than the countries comprising the EU. Better than Russia. Better than China. Better than most of the Middle East, Africa, and South or Central America.

So year, better than most.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:04:43am

re: #522 FormerDirtDart

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The guy who failed to make the Fox stage for a second time because of his poll numbers says what?

530
Jenner7  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:05:00am

re: #522 FormerDirtDart

Bwahahahahahahahahaha! You funny Rand.

531
Kryptik  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:05:56am

re: #518 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Germans are making a lot of other European countries look like assholes…interesting change of pace.

That apparently is on the flip because of the Cologne thing, which still seems to have unclear info all over the place but is being bandied about with great steadfastness and assurance as proof that all migrants are an invading menace of an army.

And of course, trying to preach caution not only gets you branded as a dirty muslim lover, but also used to attack the very concept of feminism, especially online, where despite the label being generally toxic, Gamergaters have essentially won in making feminism into a Super-Fascist boogeyman that immediately tars you as the most horrible person in the world.

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withak  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:07:23am

re: #531 Kryptik

That apparently is on the flip because of the Cologne thing, which still seems to have unclear info all over the place but is being bandied about with great steadfastness and assurance as proof that all migrants are an invading menace of an army.

And of course, trying to preach caution not only gets you branded as a dirty muslim lover, but also used to attack the very concept of feminism, especially online, where despite the label being generally toxic, Gamergaters have essentially won in making feminism into a Super-Fascist boogeyman that immediately tars you as the most horrible person in the world.

I’m really glad Gators don’t wield the sort of influence they seem to think that they do.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:11:53am

I’d love “No Fucks To Give” Obama to take the podium and declare “The state of the union is a lot stronger than my opponents would like, stronger than when I took office after the failure of the last Republican to hold it, and would be much stronger today if I had a Democratic majority in Congress who would be willing to work with me to get things done than the current Republican majority that gets off on being opposed to anything I try to do. Millions of Americans are insured for the first time thanks to a healthcare reform bill that Democrats wrote, Democrats championed, Democrats made law, and Democrats have defended again and again. Every American now has family or friends that are insured for the first time through Obamacare. They might want to keep that in mind when they go to the polls this November.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:12:50am

re: #531 Kryptik

That apparently is on the flip because of the Cologne thing, which still seems to have unclear info all over the place but is being bandied about with great steadfastness and assurance as proof that all migrants are an invading menace of an army.

And of course, trying to preach caution not only gets you branded as a dirty muslim lover, but also used to attack the very concept of feminism, especially online, where despite the label being generally toxic, Gamergaters have essentially won in making feminism into a Super-Fascist boogeyman that immediately tars you as the most horrible person in the world.

Imagine what the pushback to an incident like that would have been in most any other nation.

People are still generally more annoyed at the politicians, who failed to anticipate or warn people of the extent of the crisis than they are upset about the refugees of other immigrants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:22:44am

Just got back from barn chores and saw the weirdest thing.
A little lizard walking very very slowly on top of the newly-fallen snow.
Picked it up and put it in a woodpile inside the workshop.
Hope it makes itself to home until warmer weather arrives.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 12, 2016 • 11:03:37am

re: #529 Targetpractice

The guy who failed to make the Fox stage for a second time because of his poll numbers says what?

Yeah, it’s hard to hear him with his sphincter so tight around his neck.

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Shimshon  Jan 14, 2016 • 6:54:37am

re: #534 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Imagine what the pushback to an incident like that would have been in most any other nation.

People are still generally more annoyed at the politicians, who failed to anticipate or warn people of the extent of the crisis than they are upset about the refugees of other immigrants.

Minorities in the spotlight always have to answer for anything their fellow minorities do, and any action is always representative of everyone else in that group. It’s classic racism/bigotry/xenophobia. A handful of horrible attacks by less than 1% of the refugee population being representative of all refugees should never be an acceptable argument but the media will never stop controversy because it sells. And sadly the internet has become a haven for these crazy people.


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America Isn’t Growing Hostile Towards Christians, It’s Growing Hostile Towards Religious Bullies. Christians are not a marginalized minority in America, but the majority and the ruling class. In fact, some polls show that around 83% of Americans are Christians. That long line of U.S presidents stemming back to the founding of ...
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President Trump Must Ask Congress to Draft Articles of Cyberwar Against Russia - or ElseOn April 27th, 2017, Ars Technica did an in-depth post on how a Russian-controlled telecom hijacked financial services’ Internet traffic: On Wednesday, large chunks of network traffic belonging to MasterCard, Visa, and more than two dozen other financial services companies ...
Eric The Fruit Bat
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Why Aren’t Americans Happier Than They Were in the ’70s? These results are disconcerting because American society superficially seems to have improved in many ways since the National Opinion Research Center began performing these surveys — in terms of general wealth, technology, civic equality, and various other metrics, as ...
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Donald Trump’s First 100 Days Have Been a Success Story Matthew Yglesias, Vox: Donald Trump’s first 100 days have been a moneymaking success story There is something grating about this, especially from a president who is making a big show of donating his salary to charity. Trump is directly ...
Big Beautiful Door
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