Tuesday Night Jam: Mariachi Flor De Toloache: Tiny Desk Concert

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To follow President Obama’s State of the Union speech, here’s an amazing performance by Mariachi Flor de Toloache, live in the NPR’s Tiny Desk studio, tearin’ it up.

January 8, 2016 by FELIX CONTRERAS

Mariachi Flor de Toloache’s 2014 self-titled debut album earned a Latin Grammy nomination in the Best Ranchera category — quite an accomplishment, given that the category celebrates an incredibly long tradition of Mexican music. But it was no fluke: The group’s members come by their mariachi skills honestly and with endless practice, while still looking for ways to take chances.

Still, the best way to introduce yourself to Mariachi Flor de Toloache is to see it live — something many have done as the band tours with The Arcs, both as members and as an opening act. It’s got top-notch musicianship, mariachi swagger for days, and a performance style that captures all the power and emotion you’d hope for.

Mariachi Flor de Toloache is available now.
iTunes: itunes.apple.com
Amazon: amazon.com

Set List

“Let Down”
“Dicen”
“Guadalajara”

Credits

Producers: Bobby Carter, Morgan Walker; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Walker, Julia Reihs; Production Assistant: Kate Drozynski; Photo by Jun Tsuboike/NPR

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462 comments
1
Jenner7  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:47:58pm

WOW

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:48:26pm

My wife told me that Chris Thile is taking over Prairie Home Companion.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:49:34pm

re: #1 Jenner7

These are the people that think wearing a gun on your hip makes you brave.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:50:34pm

re: #1 Jenner7

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WOW

What it tells me is that Republicans want to believe in a contradiction: That the President doesn’t say enough nice things about America, but when he does they’re ridiculous.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:50:52pm

Good night all.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:58:39pm

I know everybody may be worn out by tonight’s political festivities, but don’t miss this band, folks. They’re absolutely fucking amazing.

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b.d.  Jan 12, 2016 • 7:59:10pm

re: #1 Jenner7

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WOW

What nation do they think is stronger than the USA?

I don’t get it?

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:00:16pm

re: #7 b.d.

They’ve been told to be miserable for the past seven years, and it took.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:00:16pm

re: #7 b.d.

What nation do they think is stronger than the USA?

I don’t get it?

All of them, Katie. All of them.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:00:25pm

re: #7 b.d.

What nation do they think is stronger than the USA?

I don’t get it?

“That’s not the point!”

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:00:59pm

All the good Obama did in the last 7 years and all you hear from the GOP is how awful everything is.

I can’t imagine how much he could have accomplished if the GOP had tried even a little to actually accomplish absolutely anything.

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:02:36pm

re: #7 b.d.

What nation do they think is stronger than the USA?

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Great White Snark  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:02:53pm

Okay you guys what do you think of this voice? This is Sass Jordan, new to me anyway…

Video

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:03:00pm

re: #1 Jenner7

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WOW

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:04:48pm

Thanks for calling attention to another great group, Charles. For a while now I’ve wanted to see them live, but alas tickets in NYC for bands I’m dying to see too often sell out in minutes.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:07:37pm

Amazing singers.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:08:39pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

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I never understood this. Comparing America and China is like comparing apples and oranges. American and Chinese power and influence is exerted in different ways. The Chinese do not, contrary to popular opinion, “have us by the balls”. I’d like to see a prominent Republican answer that question honestly.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:09:35pm

This tweet could apply to any situation…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:10:27pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:11:06pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

What in the living hell? I don’t even understand her comment… Or is Ann a Trump supporter?

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:11:37pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:12:06pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

What in the living hell? I don’t even understand her comment… Or is Ann a Trump supporter?

Ann is a Christianist and closeted white supremacist.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:12:39pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Ann is a Christianist and closeted white supremacist.

I get that, but what does any of that have to do with deporting someone who is purportedly on your side? I know, I know… Ann is just that much of an evil, cold-hearted bitch.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:13:08pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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Any guess on when this trend for SCREAMING EXTREMIST BULLSHIT TO GET ATTENTION will wane?

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:13:50pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

What in the living hell? I don’t even understand her comment… Or is Ann a Trump supporter?

Total Trump supporter.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:14:30pm

re: #24 De Kolta Chair

Any guess on when this trend for SCREAMING EXTREMIST BULLSHIT TO GET ATTENTION will wane?

Sometime shortly after Satan opens a ski resort, would be my guess.

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Brian J.  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:15:16pm

re: #24 De Kolta Chair

Any guess on when this trend for SCREAMING EXTREMIST BULLSHIT TO GET ATTENTION will wane?

Well, I see Bernie Sanders at 40% in a Democratic primary, a party in which he has never spent a single day, and I realize that it’s likely to be a while until sanity is back to American politics; it’s just that both sides are insane right now in different ways.

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ausador  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:15:38pm

re: #11 Maxwell Not So Smart

All the good Obama did in the last 7 years and all you hear from the GOP is how awful everything is.

I can’t imagine how much he could have accomplished if the GOP had tried even a little to actually accomplish absolutely anything.

The Democratic party wasted the chance, if the people who showed up in 08 & 12 to elect him had also showed up 10 & 14 the dems would still have congress and would have been in control of redistricting after the 2010 census!

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:16:29pm

Ha!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:19:13pm

re: #26 thedopefishlives

Sometime shortly after Satan opens a ski resort, would be my guess.

Funny you should say that, because I just booked a room at the Trump Overlook Hotel…

This photo was taken before he had it painted gold.

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451_Montag  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:19:22pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

Ann is a Christianist and closeted white supremacist.

Closeted?

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:20:13pm
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Belafon  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:20:42pm

re: #31 451_Montag

Closeted?

I think teleskiguy means that Ann keeps her sheets hanging in her closet.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:21:55pm

re: #30 De Kolta Chair

Funny you should say that, because I just booked a room at the Trump Overlook Hotel.

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I can’t be the only person who sees that and “the Shining” comes to mind

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:23:56pm

re: #29 WhatEVs

Ha!

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Nikki Haley speaks, media goes “oooh awesome future VP,” base hates it.

I’ll ask again the question I asked in the previous thread. Would seriously like to hear any thoughts anyone has:

All the tongue-bathing on MSNBC about what a great VP she’d make—I’d like to know for whom? Nobody on the GOP side really needs any help carrying South Carolina. Trump wouldn’t pick her—not “pretty enough” and he’s already about a zillion points ahead here. Rubio and Cruz? They don’t need another minority on their ticket—and again, don’t need Nikki to carry SC. The only two I can see having any interest in her at all would be Kasich or Christie, and they don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the nomination.

Plus, Nikki is not very bright and has a lot of dirty laundry that has not been fully aired.

Why do they think she’d be such a great VP pick? I don’t get it…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:24:41pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart

I can’t be the only person who sees that and “the Shining” comes to mind

The Trump-Bates Motel?

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:25:08pm
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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:26:00pm

re: #35 BeachDem

Nikki Haley speaks, media goes “oooh awesome future VP,” base hates it.

I’ll ask again the question I asked in the previous thread. Would seriously like to hear any thoughts anyone has:

All the tongue-bathing on MSNBC about what a great VP she’d make—I’d like to know for whom? Nobody on the GOP side really needs any help carrying South Carolina. Trump wouldn’t pick her—not “pretty enough” and he’s already about a zillion points ahead here. Rubio and Cruz? They don’t need another minority on their ticket—and again, don’t need Nikki to carry SC. The only two I can see having any interest in her at all would be Kasich or Christie, and they don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the nomination.

Plus, Nikki is not very bright and has a lot of dirty laundry that has not been fully aired.

Why do they think she’d be such a great VP pick? I don’t get it…

I can only guess because she didn’t sound nuts…something the GOP desperate needs.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:27:02pm

re: #35 BeachDem

Nobody on the GOP side really needs any help carrying South Carolina.

That’s the thing.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:27:48pm

Remember that time when four or five people took these seriously, and they all worked at Fox?

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Kragar  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:28:03pm

re: #1 Jenner7

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thedopefishlives  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:28:22pm

re: #40 De Kolta Chair

Remember that time when eight or nine people took these seriously, and they all worked at Fox?

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My response to Luap Dnar’s response: Go fuck yourself sideways.

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:29:30pm

re: #31 451_Montag

Closeted?

Ann subscribes to “scientific racism” that Charles Murray sharted into the world back in 1994. She’s also a big fan of the European far right. She keeps her white supremacy shrouded in an intellectual veneer.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:30:49pm

This is hysterical.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:31:48pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart

I can’t be the only person who sees that and “the Shining” comes to mind

That’s a screencap from The Shining, and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that it hasn’t seen that much snow since the day it was shot.

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Tigger2  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:32:43pm

re: #40 De Kolta Chair

Remember that time when four or five people took these seriously, and they all worked at Fox?

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:34:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:37:33pm

It says here the President talks like a fag and his shit’s all retarded.

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danarchy  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:38:13pm

This is a pretty gloomy prediction:

city.wsj.com

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:39:43pm

Oh, right wingers.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:42:17pm

The very definition of awkward would be a Trump/Haley ticket.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:43:53pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

What in the living hell? I don’t even understand her comment… Or is Ann a Trump supporter?

Given she doesn’t understand that YOU CAN’T DEPORT A CITIZEN, I’m going with Ann being a Trump supporter. She’s dense as dense as platinum, so that also makes sense.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:45:52pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

It says here the President talks like a fag and his shit’s all retarded.

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I love it when Trump goes into his patented let’s change presidents real fast sci-fi time travel schtick.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:46:06pm

re: #29 WhatEVs

Ha!

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The GOP “response” was really the party leadership trying desperately to keep people convinced that they’re a viable political party.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:47:46pm

Bob Schneider “C’mon Baby”

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:48:37pm

Wow. Coulter really went on quite the tirade.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:49:05pm

re: #35 BeachDem

In a sane world, it would be the same reason Obama picked Biden - he didn’t need any help carrying Delaware (or any part of the Northeast). But he needed someone with a career’s worth of Washington experience. Haley would provide executive (government) experience for whomever wins the GOP nomination.

In the world we have, Haley wears a skirt and as we saw with Palin, the GOP thinks that’s all you need to get women to vote for you. Also, she’s not lily ass butt white, so that will help with minorities in their warped minds.

The truth is a VP pick rarely affects a national election. It’s one of those things that if you do it wrong, it could cost you the election, but otherwise it doesn’t really matter for most voters.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:53:10pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:53:16pm

re: #46 Tigger2

What’s Rand gotta complain about? The great thing about the kid’s table is there’s cookies!

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ausador  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:53:38pm

Trolling…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:53:50pm

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:55:10pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:57:45pm

re: #35 BeachDem

Why do they think she’d be such a great VP pick? I don’t get it…

The people who, prior to this speech, thought she’d be a great pick for Trump forgot that a month ago she called his immigration freeze un-American and unconstitutional.

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley did not mince words on Tuesday when she called Donald Trump’s proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States “absolutely un-American” and “unconstitutional.”

“It defies everything that this country was based on and it’s just wrong,” the Republican said, speaking to reporters in Columbia and adding later that the policy was “an embarrassment” to her party. A clip of her remarks were posted to Twitter by her communications director.

Any candidate other than Trump might be able to bridge a certain level of policy disagreement with their running mate. However there’s no way someone as misogynistic as him picks a woman who’s stood up to him in such unequivocal terms on an issue so central to their campaign.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:58:27pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Right wingers are going to be so disappointed not to have their war.

That pretty much sums up wing nut foreign policy since late 2007 or so.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 8:58:30pm

Clueless GOP strikes again. They really are completely clueless.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:00:06pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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OH MY DOG, what are we gonna do????????????? /gop

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:00:16pm
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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:00:31pm

re: #57 KGxvi

In a sane world, it would be the same reason Obama picked Biden - he didn’t need any help carrying Delaware (or any part of the Northeast). But he needed someone with a career’s worth of Washington experience. Haley would provide executive (government) experience for whomever wins the GOP nomination.

In the world we have, Haley wears a skirt and as we saw with Palin, the GOP thinks that’s all you need to get women to vote for you. Also, she’s not lily ass butt white, so that will help with minorities in their warped minds.

The truth is a VP pick rarely affects a national election. It’s one of those things that if you do it wrong, it could cost you the election, but otherwise it doesn’t really matter for most voters.

Thanks for responding. Yeah, I guess that all makes sense. Guess it’s hard for me to look at it objectively, having had Nikki as my governor for the past 5 years, and knowing she’s as dumb as a box of rocks and has the integrity of pond scum.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:01:39pm

re: #60 ausador

Trolling…

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The “state of denial” talking point only makes sense to wingnuts. To everybody else, it’s projection of IMAX proportions. The GOP simply will not deal with the excellent state the nation is in and so choose to believe in an apocalyptic Hell on Earth that only electing one of them can be turned back into the Mighty Nation of Real ‘Murika!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:02:51pm

BREAKING — Reince Priebus has caved to Rand Paul’s strident demands that the kid’s table include copious amounts of Play-Doh and Baby Huey comic books.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:03:40pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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Not to worry, the GOP will have a way to spin this all as a bad thing. Something to the tune of “Iran did this to show us they could, demonstrating how weak Obama has made us!”

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:05:56pm

These ladies are good!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:06:29pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:07:41pm

re: #72 Romantic Heretic

These ladies are good!

Indeed they are. Friends of mine have seen them a couple of times in Tucson and rave about them.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:08:49pm
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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:12:12pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

I have an extreme problem with calling Jindal by his birth name as a slur, this is just the same. Racism.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:13:26pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

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[racist] She ain’t white and that ain’t right!! [/racist]

But srsly, aside from base racism, I’m not getting it. Halley is conservative as all get out, but they want to bring her down in flamboyant flames. ???

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:14:29pm

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

[racist] She ain’t white and that ain’t right!! [/racist]

But srsly, aside from base racism, I’m not getting it. Halley is conservative as all get out, but they want to bring her down.

Never underestimate the unreasonableness of incoherent rage.

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:14:56pm

re: #68 BeachDem

One other thing, the way it typically works is if a presidential nominee has Washington experience, they pick a governor; and if they are a governor, they pick someone with Washington experience. With one exception: when the nominee has little experience they tend to pick someone with lots of experience (JFK and LBJ, Obama and Biden).

It’s a trend that mostly holds:
Romney picked Ryan; McCain picked Palin; Clinton picked Gore; GWB picked Cheney; Reagan picked GHWBush; Carter picked Mondale.

About the only exceptions I can think of were GHWBush taking Quayle and Gore picking Lieberman.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:16:17pm

re: #68 BeachDem

Thanks for responding. Yeah, I guess that all makes sense. Guess it’s hard for me to look at it objectively, having had Nikki as my governor for the past 5 years, and knowing she’s as dumb as a box of rocks and has the integrity of pond scum.

Hey, boxes of rocks can contribute to science!

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:17:06pm

More than a dozen local residents have reported to authorities that they were harassed in the weeks leading up to the occupation and in the days since. Different trucks, SUVs and other vehicles — most with out-of-state licenses — have followed the residents.

Four of the people who filed reports agreed to share their accounts with The Oregonian/OregonLive only if their names and identifying information were withheld because they feared further harassment. Law enforcement sources confirmed each had reported the episodes.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:18:44pm

Night yall, nyquil finally beating my political enthusiasm

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ausador  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:19:37pm

RINO ——->

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:20:37pm

The Republican Party is splintering faster than I imagined. We’ll know after Super Tuesday for sure if The Donald™ will mount a third party run. That’s when the real fun begins.

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:23:52pm
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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:24:43pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

Trump is pretty emphatic that he is only running to win. Since almost everyone agrees that a 3rd party candidate ain’t goin’ to be POTUS, even Trump won’t take that one on.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:24:43pm

re: #78 freetoken

Never underestimate the unreasonableness of incoherent rage.

Yeah, I keep forgetting.

Blazing Saddles… You know, morons.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:25:10pm

This just in…email from the GOP.

Yawn

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:26:17pm

So, two things here:

1.) Republican governor and champion of small govt. admits he needs the poster child of big government federal agencies to bail him out after he poisoned an entire fucking city through ideologically based, depraved criminal negligence.

2.) Snyder’s twitter handle is actually @onetoughnerd wtf?

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BeachDem  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:26:56pm

re: #79 KGxvi

One other thing, the way it typically works is if a presidential nominee has Washington experience, they pick a governor; and if they are a governor, they pick someone with Washington experience. With one exception: when the nominee has little experience they tend to pick someone with lots of experience (JFK and LBJ, Obama and Biden).

It’s a trend that mostly holds:
Romney picked Ryan; McCain picked Palin; Clinton picked Gore; GWB picked Cheney; Reagan picked GHWBush; Carter picked Mondale.

About the only exceptions I can think of were GHWBush taking Quayle and Gore picking Lieberman.

Also good points. As I said, it’s hard for me to be objective about Haley, as I truly loathe her. Before becoming governor, her resume was so thin as to be nearly transparent, and until the boost she got when Palin (just another reason to hate and despise Palin) came out for her, she wasn’t even a serious contender for governor. She has really only gotten this far by cronyism (at one time, she was Mark Sanford’s go-to gal) and bullshit.

I worked for/supported her Dem opponent both times—of course, it’s a straight vertical uphill battle for Dems here in South by dog Carolina. But, it let me know just about everything there is to know about Nikki. Most of it, not very pretty. It’s just amazing to me when she’s touted as such a strong contender for the national stage.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:28:22pm

Latest popularity poll is from NYT shows not much change, other than Carson continues to tank:

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:30:05pm

re: #86 freetoken

We’ll see. I’m thinking maybe The Donald’s™ yooge ego might compel the man to do crazy things. Can it get worse?

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:30:38pm

Dear Nobel Prize Committee,

You know what would really blow a lot of crackers’ minds? Give President Obama another Peace Prize.

C’mon, work with me here.

Signed, De Kolta Chair

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:32:34pm

Da Ali G Show - Ali G interviews Donald Trump

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:34:52pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I don’t know what to think of my fellow Americans. Go read question 31 in that NYT poll.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:37:24pm

re: #81 jaunte

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This is why I’m so pissed they’re taking this hands-off, don’t escalate approach. These guys are terrorizing law-abiding citizens. The only difference is they haven’t killed anyone. Yet. But they invaded a town, took it over, and expect locals to do their bidding.

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:37:27pm

re: #95 freetoken

Oh. My. Fuck.

It’s stuff like that that can drive one to do this.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:37:59pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Video

Oh my, that was good on several levels.

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Targetpractice  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:42:26pm

re: #95 freetoken

I don’t know what to think of my fellow Americans. Go read question 31 in that NYT poll.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:45:28pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:45:29pm

what in the utter fuck

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:46:48pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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Hey! We were looking for you during the SOTU.

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No Depression  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:47:39pm

re: #95 freetoken

I don’t know what to think of my fellow Americans. Go read question 31 in that NYT poll.

George Carlin Stupid People

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:49:10pm

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ausador  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:49:46pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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NAMBLA is very excited about the fact that “kiddie pecker checker” may soon be a real sanctioned job.
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:50:15pm

re: #102 WhatEVs

Hey! We were looking for you during the SOTU.

I was at Universal Studios theme park with my grandbabies.

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:51:21pm

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

I was at Universal Studios theme park with my grandbabies.

Time better spent. Enjoy L.A.!

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:52:00pm

re: #106 The Vicious Babushka

I was at Universal Studios theme park with my grandbabies.

I did WB when I was there a few months ago. Universal was insanely expensive. Next time, though, I think I’d cough up the dough. It looked really cool. Did you like it?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:53:07pm

re: #108 WhatEVs

I did WB when I was there a few months ago. Universal was insanely expensive. Next time, though, I think I’d cough up the dough. It looked really cool. Did you like it?

Yes it was horrifically expensive but still a bargain compared to Disneyland.

We had a fantastic time and the Minions attraction is awesome!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:53:54pm

re: #100 WhatEVs

Well I’ll be darned. Great news and congrats to her!

I’ve been burnt too many times in the past to call something a trend, but for OK this is very something.

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ipsos  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:54:40pm

re: #100 WhatEVs

Say what you will about dKos - and I hung out there for a long time before migrating over here - it’s always been THE place to turn when it comes to a wonkish devotion to the state and local races that too often go neglected. If Democrats have any hope of regaining Congress in 2020 and beyond, they need to take a lesson from the GOP and start contesting those small races harder, both to build up benches of good candidates and of course to get some control of the next House redistricting.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:55:10pm

re: #95 freetoken

I don’t know what to think of my fellow Americans. Go read question 31 in that NYT poll.

Pretty heavy Republican primary voter lean. Max education level of high school or less at least ten points oversampled from 2012 turnout.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 12, 2016 • 9:58:24pm

Washington Post writes an entire puff piece about this fucker, even describing his racist memes, without mentioning what a hate-crazed racist he is.

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ausador  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:01:06pm

Ughh, had to unfollow a couple of people tonight, not because they turned into Berniebots, but because doing so changed them. Got sick of all the people they were retweeting tonight who did nothing but badmouth Obama.

He didn’t close gitmo, he uses drones, he didn’t get every poor person in the country a job, etc, etc…

I’m really getting scared of this election, I just don’t think enough of our people are going to show up to win it.

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:04:11pm

A picture of the good ol’ days according to a lot of conservatives in the United States.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:05:08pm

re: #115 teleskiguy

A picture of the good ol’ days according to a lot of conservatives in the United States.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:05:22pm
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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:06:04pm

re: #113 The Vicious Babushka

You missed this shit.

littlegreenfootballs.com

littlegreenfootballs.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:06:59pm

re: #118 WhatEVs

You missed this shit.

littlegreenfootballs.com

littlegreenfootballs.com

Yeah well, I was having fun.

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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:07:38pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah well, I was having fun.

You were smart. This stuff is maddening.

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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:09:37pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:11:42pm
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WhatEVs  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:14:45pm

Bedtime. Good night all!

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ausador  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:15:00pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

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KGxvi  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:19:58pm

re: #86 freetoken

Trump is pretty emphatic that he is only running to win. Since almost everyone agrees that a 3rd party candidate ain’t goin’ to be POTUS, even Trump won’t take that one on.

In order for a third party candidate to win, there has to be several things going on. You need (in addition to a national campaign):

1. disillusionment with both major parties
2. name recognition (or money to quickly create name recognition, without the benefit of a primary system like the major parties have in Iowa and New Hampshire)
3. ballot access in all 50 states (whether this is through a third party or as an independent or some combination)
4. an electoral college path that avoids the election being thrown to the House

Basically, you need the perfect storm. Perot came close in 1992, before going crazy/exposing himself as crazy. Of the four conditions above, Trump has #2. He’s screwed on #1, as Democratic voters, while not overly enthusiastic about Clinton, are not willing to leave the party for Trump. I’m not sure if he can get on the ballot in all 50 states without some trickeration because of sore loser laws. And I don’t see GOP House members going with him over the official GOP nominee if it were to be thrown to the House.

Now, it’s possible that Trump would be dumb enough to think he can win anyway. But it’s more likely that GOP voters would eventually fall in line with the nominee than abandon the party for Trump (who at that point will be painted as a sore loser, his greatest fear, I think), and his total would top off somewhere around 5%.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:21:47pm

re: #114 ausador

That whole “the other side of the aisle is human” bit was aimed at people on both sides, and people on both sides completely missed the point of it.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:26:33pm

Having state troopers deliver water door-to-door has to be the stupidest, most inefficient thing I’ve seen all day. Ever hear of a coupon? Gov Snyder is a disgraceful fucktard. Don’t fall for this stupid shit Flint!!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:30:02pm

‘Night all. Oh, and just a silly thought…

You would think seats belts would have been a thing long before the 23rd Century
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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:49:00pm

I’m sitting here in my garage/man cave and I hear a soft “mmmm?” slightly behind me. I turn and one of my cats is in the lawn chair behind me, giving me ‘the look’. So I say “OK Stewie, I hear ya…”, get up, grab a couple of clean rags and lay them out in the chair, take my coat off, drape it across the back and arms and tell him “Here ya go…”. I get a slight “mmm” and he ducks under and into his ‘tent’.

I spoil my cats.

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Jenner7  Jan 12, 2016 • 10:52:20pm
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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 11:05:18pm

re: #130 Jenner7

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The wonders of DNA.

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ausador  Jan 12, 2016 • 11:41:36pm

re: #127 Amory Blaine

Having state troopers deliver water door-to-door has to be the stupidest, most inefficient thing I’ve seen all day. Ever hear of a coupon? Gov Snyder is a disgraceful fucktard. Don’t fall for this stupid shit Flint!!

Fema will be stepping in to help now…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2016 • 11:43:05pm

re: #128 De Kolta Chair

‘Night all. Oh, and just a silly thought…

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Kirk looks like he’s puking, with Spock watching and Uhura drawing back in disgust.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 12, 2016 • 11:44:28pm

re: #129 Odie Hugh Manatee

A pic of the well spoiled little guy in his tent right now…

The things we do for our little ones…

and one of him and his partner in crime, Morty, from last summer…

Our little monsters at rest…
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freetoken  Jan 12, 2016 • 11:47:00pm

Still looking to place an entry into the next OED:

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 12, 2016 • 11:53:04pm

re: #135 freetoken

It has been hilarious to watch the birther meltdown on the right. As much as they have played the game over the years it’s really something to see them turn it against themselves. It proves that even if Republicans could clear the country of every impure soul and attain their perfect union with perfect people, all they would do is turn inward and consume themselves.

Thanks to Trump they don’t have to wait for their nirvana, its here…lol!

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 12:33:45am

A bit of agribusiness news:

Iowa, Nebraska post record corn and soybean crops

It is a record year for Iowa and Nebraska crop farmers.

The final harvest report released Tuesday by the U.S. Department of Agriculture says Iowa farmers brought in 2.5 billion bushels of corn, 4 percent higher than the 2009 record. Iowa has led the nation in corn production for 22 consecutive years. The average per-acre yield of 192 bushels also is a new record.

Soybean farmers did very well too producing a record crop and the nation’s largest soybean bounty, beating out Illinois for the first time since 2012. At 554 million bushels, this year’s Iowa soybean harvest exceeds the 2005 record by 5 percent. The per-acre yield also beat the 2005 record.

[…]

If my calculations are correct, the 2015 corn production in Iowa alone, if eaten directly by humans, would provide every American over 2000 calories per day for the entire year.

Think of that for a moment.

That’s just corn.

Now in reality only a tiny fraction of the corn is intended for direct-to-human use. A great portion now goes to ethanol production and livestock feed, and the portion for humans is mostly through processed products (corn syrup, corn oil, etc.) There are industrial uses too.

Still, I remember when LVQ would rant about how the US was vulnerable to climate change - and we are - and he would fret about food. I kept telling him that we don’t have to worry about food. Even with climate change. At least for this century.

The US is capable of producing vastly more food than even we could consume in a gluttonous orgy of daily feasts.

FWIW: a bushel of corn is .0254 metric tons, i.e., 25.4 kilograms. Dry corn provides around 386 food calories (i.e., kilo-calories in chemistry) per 100 grams. So a bushel of “indian corn” provides a bit over 98 thousand food calories.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 1:54:48am

From back when Japanese record labels were uninhibited:

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MP3 Audio

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Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2016 • 2:03:19am

David Brooks:

But Cruz manufactures an atmosphere of menace in which there is no room for compassion, for moderation, for anything but dismantling and counterattack. And that is what he offers. Cruz’s programmatic agenda, to the extent that it exists in his speeches, is to destroy things: destroy the I.R.S., crush the “jackals” of the E.P.A., end funding for Planned Parenthood, reverse Obama’s executive orders, make the desert glow in Syria, destroy the Iran nuclear accord.

Some of these positions I agree with, but the lack of any positive emphasis, any hint of reform conservatism, any aid for the working class, or even any humane gesture toward cooperation is striking.

Which ones ?

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Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2016 • 2:26:26am

Iran media says captured U.S. naval crew members have been released

Iran’s Fars News Agency is reporting that Iran has freed the U.S. crew members from two Naval vessels that had strayed into Iranian waters, prompting their seizure and detention by Iranian coastal forces.

Fars quoted a statement by the “Islamic Revolution Guard Corps” saying Iran “has released the U.S. marines and their vessels in international waters’ after its investigations showed that they had gone astray during their voyage in the Persian Gulf. In its statement, the IRGC pointed out that its investigations show that the U.S. combat vessels illegal entry into Iranian water was not the result of a purposeful act,” Fars said.

There was no immediate comment or verification from U.S. officials. But they had said earlier Tuesday that they expected a release Wednesday morning.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 13, 2016 • 2:39:16am

“Frost quake” amid bitterly cold temps in SE WI, or sonic boom? National Weather Service says both possible

MILWAUKEE — The bitterly cold temperatures may have caused a “frost quake” in southeastern Wisconsin on Tuesday night, January 12th. This, according to the National Weather Service in Milwaukee.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 2:58:57am

re: #128 De Kolta Chair

‘Night all. Oh, and just a silly thought…

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Not to mention the kind of force required to shake a huge starship around like a pair of maracas.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2016 • 3:02:48am

Kinda like how his brother apologized to China after a Chinese fighter rammed one of our airplanes in international airspace forcing the plane to land inside China where the crew was held for weeks?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 3:44:30am

re: #95 freetoken

I don’t know what to think of my fellow Americans. Go read question 31 in that NYT poll.

Check the sample selection as party primary voters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 3:51:21am

re: #137 freetoken

A bit of agribusiness news:

Iowa, Nebraska post record corn and soybean crops

If my calculations are correct, the 2015 corn production in Iowa alone, if eaten directly by humans, would provide every American over 2000 calories per day for the entire year.

According to my math, it’s 20 million calories!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:15:26am

re: #137 freetoken

Putting it another way, that’s about 9 kg of corn for every human being on Earth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:22:18am

re: #146 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Putting it another way, that’s about 9 kg of corn for every human being on Earth.

How many cans of Coke can you sweeten with that?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:24:01am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How many cans of Coke can you sweeten with that?

I think the USA is the only country that sweetens soft drinks with corn syrup. Cane sugar is cheaper everywhere else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:27:31am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How many cans of Coke can you sweeten with that?

according to my research one bushel of corn can sweeten 400 cans of coke and one bushel is is roughly 62 kg, so 9kg would be enough for around 58 cans of soda

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:28:10am

The good folks in Kentucky have developed a technology for preserving the value of excess corn.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:28:36am

re: #148 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think the USA is the only country that sweetens soft drinks with corn syrup. Cane sugar is cheaper everywhere else.

all a matter of how it is subsidized. In Germany a lot of sugar comes from sugar beets. Also subsidized.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:29:46am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

The good folks in Kentucky have developed a technology for preserving the value of excess corn.

and for finding a use for old fruit jars.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:31:00am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

according to my research one bushel of corn can sweeten 400 cans of coke and one bushel is is roughly 62 kg, so 9kg would be enough for around 58 cans of soda

Your figure disagrees with freetoken’s 25.4 kg/bushel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:33:09am

re: #153 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Your figure disagrees with freetoken’s 25.4 kg/bushel.

you mean we don’t get as much soda? I just wanted a PEPSI!!! She wouldn’t even bring me 240 cans of PEPSI!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:39:00am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

you mean we don’t get as much soda? I just wanted a PEPSI!!! She wouldn’t even bring me 240 cans of PEPSI!!!

Nope, you can only get Passover Coke — no HFCS.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:43:47am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and for finding a use for old fruit jars.

We lived a few miles from the Jim Beam bonded aging warehouses when the Good Friday tornadoes tore many of them apart. Barrels, some of them intact, were scattered over several square miles. Long stretches of I-65 smelled like a roadhouse for quite some while.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:49:17am

re: #126 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That whole “the other side of the aisle is human” bit was aimed at people on both sides, and people on both sides completely missed the point of it.

“Human” isn’t the ringing endorsement it once seemed.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:52:27am

re: #148 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I think the USA is the only country that sweetens soft drinks with corn syrup. Cane sugar is cheaper everywhere else.

Gotta keep those sugar tariffs in place to protect the one or two families still growing sugar in the United States.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:55:33am

re: #158 Timothy Watson

Gotta be more than just 2.

Sugar cane is a grass native to Asia and grows mostly in tropical and subtropical areas. In terms of the U.S. sugar cane production by state, it is mainly concentrated in the federal states of Florida, Louisiana, Texas and Hawaii. In 2014, Florida produced around 15.05 million tons of sugar cane and was expected to yield more than 15.2 million tons the following year. During this period, Florida accounted for almost half of the country’s total sugar cane production. Some nine hundred thousand acres of sugar cane are harvested yearly in the United States, generating over one billion U.S. dollars in annual revenues. In 2013, revenues from sugar cane harvesting reached two billion U.S. dollars.

statista.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 4:59:42am

Ain’t No More Cane on the Brazos

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Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:00:43am

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

But a lot of the farm land is owned by just a couple of families. Example:

Various business holdings and ventures

The Fanjuls began vertically integrating their sugar holdings in 1991 with the creation of the company’s own sugar marketing arm. Previously, their Florida sugar was marketed by Savannah Foods & Industries of Georgia.[10]

In a turn of diversification, in 1994, Flo-Sun broke ground on a joint venture with U.S Generating Co. to construct a cogeneration power plant adjacent to the company’s Okeelanta sugar mill in western Palm Beach County. At a cost of $200 million, the power plant would produce energy from sugar cane stalks and woody waste that would be delivered via Florida Power and Light to an estimated 46,000 homes.[11] After the partnership dissolved, Flo-Sun began operating the biomass power plant on its own in 1996 and expanded it to the largest in the nation by 2006 [12]

In 2010, the Fanjul family celebrated the 50th anniversary of their American sugar companies, which at the time included 187,000 acres of farming in Palm Beach County, Florida with 2,000 jobs and more than 650,000 tons of sugar.[13] Worldwide the Fanjul companies at the time included four raw sugar mills and 10 refineries in six countries, making them the world’s largest refiner of cane sugar, producing 6 million tons of sugar annually.[14]

In 2011, Fanjul Corp. was ranked the third largest private company in Florida. CEO Alfonso Fanjul granted a $1 million charitable contribution to the University of Miami to build a research center for the top eye hospital in the nation.[15]

The Fanjul brothers were large shareholders and directors of Southeast Bank before its takeover and liquidation by the U.S. Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation in 1991. In addition, they are the majority shareholders and directors of FAIC Securities, which was investigated by the United States Securities and Exchange Commission for regulatory violations.[16]

en.wikipedia.org

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:02:49am

re: #161 Timothy Watson

But a lot of the farm land is owned by just a couple of families. Example:

en.wikipedia.org

Well, it’s a cartel.

Even more sugar facts: ers.usda.gov

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:10:05am

Virginia GOP Bill Requires That Schools Verify Children’s Genitals Before Using Restroom

I think they truly don’t want to be elected to power.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:14:31am

re: #163 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Virginia GOP Bill Requires That Schools Verify Children’s Genitals Before Using Restroom

I think they truly don’t want to be elected to power.

These are the same kind of people who went ballistic about the TSA scanning machines taking nudie photos of them.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:15:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:15:47am

re: #163 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Virginia GOP Bill Requires That Schools Verify Children’s Genitals Before Using Restroom

I think they truly don’t want to be elected to power.

They just want the power to chortle testicles…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:17:48am

Watch El Chapo’s Exclusive Interview in Its 17-Minute Entirety

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:18:10am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They just want the power to chortle testicles…

and the power to decide who does the chortling.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:19:17am

re: #168 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

and the power to decide who does the chortling.

Chortling wholly in the name of the Lord

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Timothy Watson  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:20:42am

re: #163 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Virginia GOP Bill Requires That Schools Verify Children’s Genitals Before Using Restroom

I think they truly don’t want to be elected to power.

Sadly, Mark Cole will continue to be reelected until he dies given the people who are in his district.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:27:52am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:28:53am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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That is a high mountain to climb.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:29:45am

re: #22 teleskiguy

Ann is a Christianist and closeted white supremacist.

If she is closeted, the closet door is clear glass.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:31:08am

Tiger Kitty!!!!

http://www.zooborns.com/zooborns/2016/01/a-tiger-cubs-christmas-list.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ZooBorns+%28ZooBorns%29
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:34:08am

Morning everyone. Didn’t get a chance to watch the SOTU last night, but reading through the threads here help out. Thanks again LGF.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:34:56am

re: #143 Timothy Watson

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:35:19am

re: #35 BeachDem

Nikki Haley speaks, media goes “oooh awesome future VP,” base hates it.

I’ll ask again the question I asked in the previous thread. Would seriously like to hear any thoughts anyone has:

All the tongue-bathing on MSNBC about what a great VP she’d make—I’d like to know for whom? Nobody on the GOP side really needs any help carrying South Carolina. Trump wouldn’t pick her—not “pretty enough” and he’s already about a zillion points ahead here. Rubio and Cruz? They don’t need another minority on their ticket—and again, don’t need Nikki to carry SC. The only two I can see having any interest in her at all would be Kasich or Christie, and they don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the nomination.

Plus, Nikki is not very bright and has a lot of dirty laundry that has not been fully aired.

Why do they think she’d be such a great VP pick? I don’t get it…

She has a vagina and brown skin, which is supposed to help hide the GOP’s misogyny and racism.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:38:19am

New poll from Iowa out, and it’s from the DSM Register, the paper Trump likes to hate.

Because it shows Cruz in the lead:

desmoinesregister.com

Note however that Cruz’s lead is noticeably less than the last iteration of that poll. The other pollsters are showing Trump edging ahead of Cruz in Iowa popularity, and this DSMR poll does show changes in Trump’s direction.

Sure, this is all just popularity polling… but soon the real thing will be here, and if as conjectured by endless pundits is true - that Trump’s bubble will burst - then that better come soon.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:39:59am

Bobby Jindal left office today. 100,000 residents of Louisiana will gain health care tomorrow.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:41:16am

scribd.com

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:41:57am

better:

Scribd Document

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:42:15am

Dog Copies Little Girl’s Cartwheel
Dog Copies Little Girl’s Cartwheel

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:45:53am

re: #90 BeachDem

Also good points. As I said, it’s hard for me to be objective about Haley, as I truly loathe her. Before becoming governor, her resume was so thin as to be nearly transparent, and until the boost she got when Palin (just another reason to hate and despise Palin) came out for her, she wasn’t even a serious contender for governor. She has really only gotten this far by cronyism (at one time, she was Mark Sanford’s go-to gal) and bullshit.

I worked for/supported her Dem opponent both times—of course, it’s a straight vertical uphill battle for Dems here in South by dog Carolina. But, it let me know just about everything there is to know about Nikki. Most of it, not very pretty. It’s just amazing to me when she’s touted as such a strong contender for the national stage.

But then, the GOP picked Palin for VP, so the bar is very, very low.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:48:39am

I almost feel sorry for the St. Louis NFL fans….almost. But, considering Missouri is a red state (sans the Govenor), I won’t lose much sleep.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:51:43am

Still f—cking cold in my part of the world. Dogs still want to stay-out in it and play.

Moving Mom today. From one apt to another in the same complex.

Not . looking . forward . to . it.

you?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:54:13am

where is Baba?

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William Lewis  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:57:00am

re: #184 Dr. Matt

I almost feel sorry for the St. Louis NFL fans….almost. But, considering Missouri is a red state (sans the Govenor), I won’t lose much sleep.

It makes me all the more convinced that there needs to be a Federal law banning the use of any taxpayer money for the construction of facilities for privately held sports teams. Let the billionaire owners pay for their own stadiums.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:57:27am

re: #184 Dr. Matt

I almost feel sorry for the St. Louis NFL fans….almost. But, considering Missouri is a red state (sans the Govenor), I won’t lose much sleep.

I don’t. The state and city would have been saddled with debt from building a stadium and related infrastructure for a billionaire owner that they can ill afford. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the existing stadium except that the owner thinks that they can make more money with a new stadium.

Some other municipality will now be paying for the privilege of hosting a billionaire sports owner’s team.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 5:59:04am

re: #187 William Lewis

It makes me all the more convinced that there needs to be a Federal law banning the use of any taxpayer money for the construction of facilities for privately held sports teams. Let the billionaire owners pay for their own stadiums.

Like Road Constrution, the purpose of Building Construction is not to build anything, but to employ people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:00:30am

If billionaire owners can convince taxpayers that they should spend tax money on stadiums instead of roads and schools, then more power to them…

I wish I could be less cynical about America’s gullibility when it comes to the supposed social and cultural benefits of professional sports.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:00:52am

off to start my day

Have a good one all!

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Great White Snark  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:01:06am

Some Navy families can breathe easier this morning, calm heads prevailed all around.

DUBAI, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Iran released ten U.S. sailors on Wednesday after holding them overnight, bringing a swift end to an incident that had rattled nerves days ahead of the expected implementation of a landmark nuclear accord between Tehran and world powers.
Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said it had freed the sailors after determining they had entered Iranian territorial waters by mistake. The sailors had been detained aboard two U.S. Navy patrol boats in the Gulf on Tuesday.
“Our technical investigations showed the two U.S. Navy boats entered Iranian territorial waters inadvertently,” the IRGC said in a statement carried by state television. “They were released in international waters after they apologized,” it added.
Confirming the sailors’ safe release, the Pentagon said there were no indications they were harmed while in Iranian custody.

huffingtonpost.com

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:06:31am

Meanwhile, the Iranians released the US sailors and their boats at first light - exactly as they said that they would. The right wingers goes apoplectic anyways. They’re busy questioning whether there were actually mechanical problems with the boats, or that there’s more at work here than basic law of the seas and common courtesy stuff - that the Iranians were within their rights to detail the USN boat and sailors until they sorted out that they were having mechanical problems and that they’d let them go on their way.

The US and Iranian authorities are both on the same page, so the right wing automatically goes into conspiracy mode. It’s worse than clockwork.

The GOP is currently constituted to be the party of anger and hate (which leads to suffering). They need bad stuff to happen to the nation to somehow prove that their worldview is the one that’s an accurate reflection. Problem is that every one of their predictions for doom and gloom have not come to pass. They warned of sky high oil prices - they’re cratering. They warned of high unemployment that was intractably stuck above 8%. It’s now at 5%. They warned of continuing recession and poor economic growth. They’re wrong as the economy continues to grow. Job growth? Yeah that too.

They warned that opening relations with Cuba would be bad too. They’re looking wrong on that as well.

Everywhere you look, the GOP has been wrong, and are pushing the nation down the wrong path. Same with Obamacare. They warned it would destroy the jobs market and insurance industry. Wrong again. They warned it would increase the number of uninsured. It hasn’t.

But the GOP remains fixated on repealing Obamacare to the exclusion of all else.

On and on it goes, and no one in the GOP is going to stop it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:14:19am

Rage Furby has published another lengthy screed, this time about how Twitter is massively overvalued and was also mean to him. Naturally, he uses the JeSuisMilo hashtag in the headline, after dissing Milo for being a crybaby.

Oddly enough, he admits to being a troll.

Go figure.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:19:13am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:25:30am

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:26:57am

re: #196 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

All of which actually undermines his whole economic argument why being banned from Twitter cost him thousands each month.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:32:45am

re: #198 Great White Snark

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When did Los Angeles look any better?

there’s liquid gold in them there hills!

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:37:28am

Finally finished the 10th episode of The Man In The High Castle on Amazon.

Engaging enough made-for-internet series. I can see why some got a bit frustrated with it. It’s not really a spoiler to say the plot can seem sort of slow at times.

I wonder how the 2nd season will do. Amazon reaches many customers but it’s still not like a major broadcast network. But I bet this series will be viewed by many Prime members for years to come.

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:38:12am

hehehe

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:42:48am

re: #200 freetoken

Finally finished the 10th episode of The Man In The High Castle on Amazon.

Engaging enough made-for-internet series. I can see why some got a bit frustrated with it. It’s not really a spoiler to say the plot can seem sort of slow at times.

I wonder how the 2nd season will do. Amazon reaches many customers but it’s still not like a major broadcast network. But I bet this series will be viewed by many Prime members for years to come.

I saw the pilot but have not sat down to watch the rest. Hope they do not spoil one of my favorite PK Dick novels.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:50:41am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Ah, so he’s the one behind that bill.

I’m guessing he has more, um, personal reasons for checking children’s genitalia.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:54:42am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I saw the pilot but have not sat down to watch the rest. Hope they do not spoil one of my favorite PK Dick novels.

Typical negative reviews of the series complain about not really following the book. For my viewing pleasure, I don’t really care if a screen production is faithful to a printed story.

spoiler 1 - plot critique (doesn’t really give away much.)

Click to Reveal

I find the plot slow but complex enough to have some substance. By plot here I mean the overall progress of the story. There is considerable weakness in the personal plotlines of the characters, especially the lead characters, as I don’t think they portray rational humans well enough. I.e., the characters make choices that I believe real humans would not do. The main heroine in particular, in how she deals with the men in her life.

spoiler 2 - final scenes - real spoilers

Click to Reveal

I wonder if in season 2 the resistance will realize they have been duped by Hitler and have been collecting films for him all along.

Also, I wonder if Frank’s naive buddy will in fact end up dead. That was sort of left hanging out there.

That the head of the Japanese Imperial police unit would interrupt his Seppuku ceremony I find somewhat questionable. It goes against a great deal of how they built his character.

That trade minister Tegami ends up in our timeline in his vision is interesting but I don’t see how the plot can really make use of that, unless a time machine is introduced.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 6:57:03am

Missed SOTU last night since it was the first night of creative writing class. Went pretty well. I’m going to like this.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:05:43am

re: #1 Jenner7

“The United States is still the strongest nation on Earth.” Republicans in my focus group literally LOL’ed. #SOTU pic.twitter.com
— Frank Luntz

LOLwat?

Has a new contender for strongest nation emerged when I wasn’t looking?

/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:11:09am

re: #197 lawhawk

All of which actually undermines his whole economic argument why being banned from Twitter cost him thousands each month.

Consistency is not his strong suit.

GotNwes has condensed his tome into something more digestible.

Why $TWTR is massively overvalued and also very mean to me #JeSuisMilo

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:13:01am

re: #193 lawhawk

Yeah but if Trump was president Iranians would never have done this because Trump would bomb them to smithereens. Make America Great Again!!!111

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Teukka  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:14:43am

Dunno if this got posted yet, but too funny to ignore :3
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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:15:23am

re: #194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He says he was “paid to tweet by consultants”… he’s lying, of course. Nobody paid him to tweet any of the garbage he posted. It all came out of his sick mind.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:19:16am

re: #210 Charles Johnson

Another one who is a legend in his own mind. //

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:21:35am

Chucky also says Dick Costolo was “fired” by Twitter - another blatant lie. Costolo resigned. It was totally his own decision.

nytimes.com

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:22:07am

re: #198 Great White Snark

See that black helicopter? It sees all and is coming for you.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:25:26am

re: #212 Charles Johnson

Chucky also says Dick Costolo was “fired” by Twitter - another blatant lie. Costolo resigned. It was totally his own decision.

nytimes.com

Facts are a liberal lie!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:30:22am

re: #204 freetoken

Typical negative reviews of the series complain about not really following the book. For my viewing pleasure, I don’t really care if a screen production is faithful to a printed story.

spoiler 1 - plot critique (doesn’t really give away much.)

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not worried about maintaining the plot line, but whether they uphold the spirit of the thing.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:31:06am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Missed SOTU last night since it was the first night of creative writing class. Went pretty well. I’m going to like this.

Expanding your brain and talents is a good thing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:31:35am

One fact is true, though, TWTR is at $19/share right now. But nearly everything else is down, too.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:34:04am

re: #217 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Markets are mixed. Typical for this time of day. kitco.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:35:57am

If these claims about being paid to tweet and making $25K a month from Twitter are Chuck’s idea of how to create a basis for a lawsuit against Twitter, he apparently doesn’t realize he’ll have to actually prove this stuff to use it in a suit.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:36:27am

So the Rams are moving to Inglewood. Wonder how much that’s going to cost the taxpayers.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:36:49am

Sage advice from a senior Lizard:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:36:56am

re: #204 freetoken

I noticed he began the process without his second around. That’s also contrary to tradition.

In this reality, anyway.

I also finished the series. Really dark, but I suppose the message is that imperial, fascist control and occupation of the USA would be really, really bad, kids, so let’s not do that. Mmkay?

[And it’s now almost midnight here and I’m thinking that cup of (really good) coffee after dinner was maybe not a good idea, as I am wide awake.]

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:40:00am

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

Thanks. I needed a good laugh. :)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:40:33am

re: #219 Charles Johnson

If these claims about being paid to tweet and making $25K a month from Twitter are Chuck’s idea of how to create a basis for a lawsuit against Twitter, he apparently doesn’t realize he’ll have to actually prove this stuff to use it in a suit.

I doubt he’s going to file a suit. His present legal battles are not going too well for him. A judge reading his BS and Twitter’s TOS & rules would just toss the suit out. It’s a contract with a private company, and he broke his side of the contract more than once. Too bad, so sad.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:41:13am

re: #216 ObserverArt

Expanding your brain and talents is a good thing.

Yeah it is. I always wished I had taken a creative writing class in high school or during my years as an undergrad. Honestly it’s a perfect time since I’ve had a lot of experiences during and since then that have inspired my writing.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:42:15am

OK, I’m going to try to go to sleep. Later, people.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:44:13am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

not worried about maintaining the plot line, but whether they uphold the spirit of the thing.

This is a very minor spoiler and I don’t think I need to hide this:

Well, I’m not sure if this seires is in the “spirit” of the original book or not, but one thing I did notice in all the episodes is how both the Imperial officials in the west, and the American Reich citizens in the east, very clearly wear lapel pins to publicly declare their patriotism to their in-group.

It’s very conscious costuming and scenes are shot to clearly emphasize regalia.

It reminded me of these “debates” of ours where the candidates are all sure they have their shiny little flag lapel pins all polished and presented clearly on the lapels of their very dark suits.

Now I guess I’m one of those who are very tired of our fiction always going back to WWII and Nazi-this and Nazi-that. It’s beyond tropish. But I guess if one is going to to an alt-history of the 20th century it’s likely WWII is going to loom large in the story.

One of my take-aways from the 10 episodes is that Americans make better Nazis than they make Japanese citizens.

The show does lean quite a bit on stereotypes.

minor spoiler:

Click to Reveal

I think there is the underlying Japanese-are-sneaky theme going on in the entire story. It’s an old meme. I’m not even sure most Japanese find it offensive. But it is a stereotype.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:47:41am

re: #227 freetoken

The show does lean quite a bit on stereotypes.

The conflict that comes out in the book is that there is a faction in post-Hitler Germany that wants to turn on their erstwhile Japanese Allies and use the atomic bomb on them, forcing Japanese to take sides in the struggle by supporting the SS, who favor a continued alliance with Japan.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:48:42am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Click to Reveal

Elements of that are in the series in season 1.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:48:51am

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

I once choked on an ice cube. I was by myself and I can just imagine everybody shrugging and saying “He just must have keeled over I guess”. I wound up doing a headstand and the ice cube slid out.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:52:07am

What I think could be a neat mini-series for alt-history lovers is King’s “11/22/63: A Novel ” .

Oh… look… some time traveler must have just stolen my idea and gone back and made it:

imdb.com

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:54:32am

re: #210 Charles Johnson

He says he was “paid to tweet by consultants”… he’s lying, of course. Nobody paid him to tweet any of the garbage he posted. It all came out of his sick mind.

If only there were some federal agency with the responsibility to know his income.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:55:02am

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

Sage advice from a senior Lizard:

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These are so awesome, how come the stupid media won’t report them?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:55:13am

re: #232 Decatur Deb

IRS?

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:55:14am

What is Hulu’s track record for making originals?

11.22.63 on Hulu Trailer (Official)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:57:43am

re: #231 freetoken

What I think could be a neat mini-series for alt-history lovers is King’s “11/22/63: A Novel ” .

Oh… look… some time traveler must have just stolen my idea and gone back and made it:

imdb.com

I thought it was gonna be the Red Dwarf version, where Lister uses the time drive to go pick up more Indian food supplies and they inadvertently save JFK.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:57:52am

re: #221 Shiplord Kirel

Sage advice from a senior Lizard:

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Riding a motorcycle without a helmet significantly reduces your risk of prostate cancer.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 7:59:59am

So, TRUMP® thought Obama’s address last night was boring. Does the pudgy man-child ever listen to his own crappy “speeches?”

Repetitive fragments of borrowed conservative talking points from all over the internet and TV media shouted out in Trumpese is not good speechifying.

I suspect he is once again giving the marks what they want to hear…Obama bad, not great like Trump, very bad, not great.

Is there one original thought in Trump’s fruity-colored head?

Not that he really need one to be elected the GOP nominee, just wondering where all the real original thinking from the world’s greatest negotiator can be found. Has anyone seen any sign of it yet?

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:00:53am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:02:03am

re: #238 ObserverArt

So, TRUMP(r) thought Obama’s address last night was boring. Does the pudgy man-child ever listen to his own crappy “speeches?”

Repetitive fragments of borrowed conservative talking points from all over the internet and TV media shouted out in Trumpese is not good speechifying.

I suspect he is once again giving the marks what they want to hear…Obama bad, not great like Trump, very bad, not great.

Is there one original thought in Trump’s fruity-colored head?

Not that he really need one to be elected the GOP nominee, just wondering where all the real original thinking from the world’s greatest negotiator can be found. Has anyone seen any sign of it yet?

Trumps speeches are not boring. Every paragraph, sometimes every sentence, has a surprise ending.

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:05:37am

A fairy tale ending where Trump is always the winner.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:06:58am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Trumps speeches are not boring. Every paragraph, sometimes every sentence, has a surprise ending.

You mean like the lapel flower that squirts you in the face and the little buzzer in the hand that buzzes when he shakes your hand. Yeah…clowns do have surprise endings.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:07:18am

re: #239 Tigger2

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Well that’s natural given Sanders’ record on the issue isn’t what they’d like.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:07:22am

‘Morning, Lizards,

This morning’s jumbled thoughts…

My wife Skyped me a little while ago and told me her place of employment is on lockdown. A bank in the area was robbed, and the robber has eluded police to this point. She doesn’t seem too concerned about it because they’re in a pretty secure building. Kinda bugging me, though.

Didn’t watch the SOTU last night, opting to watch the Knicks pull out a short-handed win against Boston (Carmelo was running down the floor and a ref didn’t get out of the way, so sprained ankle). The Knicks playing winning ball is something I haven’t seen much in this century, so I’m watching when I can - I watched the game live, then a 60-minute condensed version and a full replay while tracking guitars in my studio, finally getting to bed at 2:00 AM. The game was that good, playoff atmosphere.

And finally - we’ve got tickets to see the one and only Tommy Emmanuel at Town Hall in NYC in February! So excited about that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:08:10am

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Trumps speeches are not boring. Every paragraph, sometimes every sentence, has a surprise ending.

To riff off what Biden said about Rudy Giuliani, every Trump speech has a noun, verb, and loser.

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nines09  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:08:31am

Just wanted to say this to someone. I picked you.
Heard a bit of the SOTU last night as I came back from eastern Pa on the PATP in squalls and high winds. Once again I heard a very articulate argument on how as Americans we are all in this together. I heard a man ask for understanding and empathy and a plea for all of us to look inward and be the best we can be as a people and a nation. I heard a man stand before the body of our government and our nation and say that we are a good and decent people. I heard no rancor or hate. I heard no fear and loathing. I heard a leader speak of the bright future and the ability of America to be what she has always been. A beacon of light in a sometimes dark world. I guess I’ll now spend the next few days watching those very people who he attempted to reach on the other side of that aisle crawl back under the rock and feed the baser darkness that has enabled a grifter like Trump to use their machine to advance bigotry and ignorance and ugly. He could have stood there and summed up the last 7 years by asking for one of his illustrious colleagues from across that aisle to point out one thing that Grand Old Party has done in those last 7 years to advance the welfare and prosperity of the American people. Just one. No one is perfect. No political party is perfect. As I say under my gif, “We are all damaged in our own exquisite way.” But one party has some serious soul searching to do. Very serious.
Back to the tasks at hand.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:12:37am

I missed the SOTU as I said since I was at class. It did get me thinking since I had taken a classes there 8 years ago when Obama was still a candidate that one of my favorite professors had a large Obama sign outside her office. I asked my professor that I had last night if she was still teaching on the campus and he said yes and told me he’d say hello for me. I was going to visit her office during our midway break(class is 2 1/2 hours) last night but realized that there was no way she was in her office. I was looking at footage Obama as the SOTU drew to an end and it’s sad that this is his last year. He’s done a lot of good but I hope he enjoys a much deserved retirement and I know he will be a good ex president.

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:12:37am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:13:18am

re: #248 jaunte

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Oh shut the fuck up already Chris, does everything have to be tough guy posture with you right wing fucks?

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gwangung  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:14:07am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Oh shut the fuck up already Chris, does everything have to be tough guy posture with you right wing fucks?

He’s a Republican, right?

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:14:24am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Oh shut the fuck up already Chris, does everything have to be tough guy posture with you right wing fucks?

*Checks the party affiliation of those who carry guns on their hips outside of work* Yep.

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bratwurst  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:14:57am

Just getting online here today…wondering if someone can direct me to the excited response from the GOP to the news of the American sailors being released by Iran.

Considering the enormous concern yesterday, even leading some to call for the SOTU to be postponed, I assume there must be a LOT a lot of praise for the State Department for resolving this almost immediately.

Anyone?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:15:26am

Heh touche guys.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:16:01am

re: #242 ObserverArt

You mean like the lapel flower that squirts you in the face and the little buzzer in the hand that buzzes when he shakes your hand. Yeah…clowns do have surprise endings.

It’s more obvious when you see his text transcripts: “No… nope… nope: Holy shit, that one was actually an English sentence!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:16:29am

re: #248 jaunte

Christie, re: Iran, says that if America doesn’t show that it will hit back, it will “get its lunch money taken every time.”

Hmmm…

Okay, yeah, let’s ‘hit them back’ for briefly detaining and then releasing unharmed the boats and crews that drifted into their territorial waters.

What would that response look like, Governor? A Swirlie? Purple Nurple? Indian Burn? Wedgie? ATOMIC Wedgie?

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:17:17am

re: #252 bratwurst

Just getting online here today…wondering if someone can direct me to the excited response from the GOP to the news of the American sailors being released by Iran.

Considering the enormous concern yesterday, even leading some to call for the SOTU to be postponed, I assume there must be a LOT a lot of praise for the State Department for resolving this almost immediately.

Anyone?

How are Republicans supposed to justify a war with Iran if it keeps acting rational?

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sagehen  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:17:21am

re: #235 freetoken

What is Hulu’s track record for making originals?

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Most of what they call “a Hulu original”really isn’t… like they picked up The Mindy Project after Fox cancelled it. Or they buy shows from overseas.

But they’ve done some cute documentary series that I’ve enjoyed; “Behind the Mask” follows the real lives of sportsball mascots (pro, semi-pro, college and high school) when out of costume. Or “Rocketjump” about a company that makes short films; each episode is 10 minutes of behind-the-scenes, then they premiere the clip.

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:18:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:19:22am

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Hmmm…

Okay, yeah, let’s ‘hit them back’ for briefly detaining and then releasing unharmed the boats and crews that drifted into their territorial waters.

What would that response look like, Governor? A Swirlie? Purple Nurple? Indian Burn? Wedgie? ATOMIC Wedgie?

I mean Christie needs to ask himself how we would have responded if the same thing happened. I naturally feel for the families of those involved but it’s part of the risk that does happen when you’re in another country’s waters on an armed ship. Christie is showing that arrogance that makes a lot of foreigners hate our government and it’s one that disgusted me in the Bush years and I hope we won’t return to after Obama.

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sagehen  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:19:49am

re: #244 makeitstop

And finally - we’ve got tickets to see the one and only Tommy Emmanuel at Town Hall in NYC in February! So excited about that.

Aha!! Another PBS supporter… (those tix are better than a tote bag fershur)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:20:20am

re: #258 jaunte

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Kerry is a good SoS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:21:26am

Finished up season 3 of “Luther” last night. Well, I finished it up. Mrs. FBW called it a night after the 3rd episode, but it was only 10:00.

Click to Reveal

I am tempted to leave it there, and not seek out the 4th season. I like the idea of Luther running away with Alice and them finding some kind of life balancing his morality and her amorality and devotion to him.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:21:45am

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Hmmm…

Okay, yeah, let’s ‘hit them back’ for briefly detaining and then releasing unharmed the boats and crews that drifted into their territorial waters.

What would that response look like, Governor? A Swirlie? Purple Nurple? Indian Burn? Wedgie? ATOMIC Wedgie?

Build a big expensive bridge across the Straits of Hormuz, then….

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:22:11am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

It’s more obvious when you see his text transcripts: “No… nope… nope:Holy shit, that one was actually an English sentence!”

Yeah, I guess I forgot. If you actually speak proper English the people Trump is trying to get to vote for him would never understand. My bad.

I blame the nuns…they beat that proper stuff into you and it is hard to shake.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:23:45am

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Hmmm…

Okay, yeah, let’s ‘hit them back’ for briefly detaining and then releasing unharmed the boats and crews that drifted into their territorial waters.

What would that response look like, Governor? A Swirlie? Purple Nurple? Indian Burn? Wedgie? ATOMIC Wedgie?

I’d be very worried about all the bridges in Iran.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:24:34am

re: #264 ObserverArt

My excuse was my dad is an English teacher. You had to learn it as a matter of pride.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:25:36am

re: #266 PhillyPretzel

My excuse was my dad is an English teacher. You had to learn it as a matter of pride.

It gets worse if your daughter is an English teacher.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:25:48am

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

Finished up season 3 of “Luther” last night. Well, I finished it up. Mrs. FBW called it a night after the 3rd episode, but it was only 10:00.

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I just saw Season 1, EP 2 on PBS and I had no clue what the Ruth Wilson character was supposed to be about. Obviously seeing EP 1 would have helped, I imagine.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:26:30am

It’s clear we need to build a wall around the Straits of Hormuz….

AND THE IRANIANS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!!!!

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:26:37am

re: #264 ObserverArt

Yeah, I guess I forgot. If you actually speak proper English the people Trump is trying to get to vote for him would never understand. My bad.

I blame the nuns…they beat that proper stuff into you and it is hard to shake.

It’s not that it’s proper English, it’s that if you let the sentence run too long, you’re probably going to say something that your audience will disagree with. It’s better to just grunt and call other people ugly idiots.

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:27:05am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:27:05am

re: #266 PhillyPretzel

My excuse was my dad is an English teacher. You had to learn it as a matter of pride.

I got a lot of shit growing up because I spoke in complete sentences and had a reasonably large vocabulary. Once I escaped from rural Pennsylvania, of course, those things actually made life easier.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:27:09am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

That is very true. Most of my co-workers are afraid to talk to me because of the fact I used to be a tutor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:27:39am

re: #268 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I just saw Season 1, EP 2 on PBS and I had no clue what the Ruth Wilson character was supposed to be about. Obviously seeing EP 1 would have helped, I imagine.

Too bloody right!

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:28:03am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

It gets worse if your daughter is an English teacher.

Ohhhh…that’s gotta be tough. Does she teach in ‘bammy?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:28:09am

re: #270 Belafon

It’s not that it’s proper English, it’s that if you let the sentence run too long, you’re probably going to say something that your audience will disagree with. It’s better to just grunt and call other people ugly idiots.

VOTE OGG. OGG KILL CRO-MAGNONS.

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bratwurst  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:28:21am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:29:01am

Just imagine if Iranian sailors accidentally floated into US waters. Do you think a Republican president would be so quick to release them as the Iranians were of our sailors?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:29:40am

re: #277 bratwurst

Tough bird.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:29:48am

re: #270 Belafon

It’s not that it’s proper English, it’s that if you let the sentence run too long, you’re probably going to say something that your audience will disagree with. It’s better to just grunt and call other people ugly idiots.

Unless you’re Sarah Palin and compound your sentences entirely of talking point fragments.

Yes, I realize that’s a sentence fragment. Fuck off!
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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:30:16am

re: #270 Belafon

It’s not that it’s proper English, it’s that if you let the sentence run too long, you’re probably going to say something that your audience will disagree with. It’s better to just grunt and call other people ugly idiots.

Is this a contrary corollary to the adage “It’s better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are ignorant, rather than open it and prove them correct” ?

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:30:41am

re: #270 Belafon

It’s not that it’s proper English, it’s that if you let the sentence run too long, you’re probably going to say something that your audience will disagree with. It’s better to just grunt and call other people ugly idiots.

I think you have figured it out. Ugly Grunts.

Hmmm. A good punk band name too.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:31:19am

re: #275 ObserverArt

Ohhhh…that’s gotta be tough. Does she teach in ‘bammy?

She taught at a multi-county kids’ prison—US Youth Corrections teacher of the year, once. That wasn’t enough crazy, so now she’s a free-lance editor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:33:54am

re: #272 Blind Frog Belly White

I got a lot of shit growing up because I spoke in complete sentences and had a reasonably large vocabulary. Once I escaped from rural Pennsylvania, of course, those things actually made life easier.

Ditto for me in a working-class neighborhood in Gary, Indiana. People gave me a hard time because they thought I was trying to intimidate them by using big words. Those were just the words I was used to reading and hearing. (My parents were big readers, my dad was an unpublished author),

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:41:01am
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Jenner7  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:41:49am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:42:28am

While we’re talking teachers and Christie, here’s the Gov’s dread nemesis:

‘America’s oldest teacher’ turns 102, still going strong

foxnews.com

(Teaches private school now—must be a woose.)

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:43:52am

So, wasn’t Nikki Haley’s response to Obama last night sold as the GOP’s way to get back at Trump??? It appears to have failed in that regard. All the crazy wingnuts are dumping on her.

And of course Mr. Ugly Grunt TRUMP® was critical. From this NPR online article…

NPR - Trump And Supporters Hit Back At Nikki Haley’s Jabs

Trump responded to Haley’s comments Wednesday, calling in to Fox & Friends. “She’s weak on illegal immigration, and she certainly has no trouble asking me for campaign contributions,” Trump said.

“I feel very strongly about illegal immigration. She doesn’t, and I think the people in her great state, I love her state, I’m there a lot, and by the way I have a massive lead in South Carolina. We have a massive lead. They’re incredible people, and they feel like I do. Believe me. Because they don’t like what’s happening in our country,” he continued.

And a tweet from Laura Ingrham…

Laura Ingraham ✔ @IngrahamAngle

The country is lit up w/ a populist fever & the GOP responds by digging in, criticizing the GOP candidates dominating polls?! NOT SMART.

10:46 PM - 12 Jan 2016

Stand back ever’one…that party is going to blow!!!

(well, we knows it blows…but this would be blow up!)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:44:47am

I can’t stay, but I just had to come drop this off. I don’t remember how I found it, but this prepper guy is apparently ex-military and he gives a rundown of what he can tell about the Oregon situation from looking at photos from news reports. He’s clearly not impressed, but there’s one part where he’s reading through the list of the supplies they want and when he gets to French Vanilla Creamer (around 2:00) the WTF look on his face is absolutely priceless. I nearly fell out of my chair LOL:

Militia/Bundy needs french vanilla creamer..what the heck

Gotta get back to work. BBL

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Dave In Austin  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:45:48am

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She may be a better grifter the SP. Do a quick search.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:46:16am

re: #289 ObserverArt

I think the people in her great state, I love her state, I’m there a lot, and by the way I have a massive lead in South Carolina. We have a massive lead.

How presidential much gravitas.

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sagehen  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:47:12am

re: #279 PhillyPretzel

Tough bird.

If he was a “tough bird”, he’d be rolling his own instead of smoking store-bought. Real Mancunians are laughing at him.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:47:16am

Does Trump ever tire of being an obnoxious, bragging asshole?

I know, I know… rhetorical question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:48:05am

re: #293 sagehen

If he was a “tough bird”, he’d be rolling his own instead of smoking store-bought. Real Mancunians are laughing at him.

He stole that cig from a baby’s mouth…

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:48:14am

re: #290 CuriousLurker

Well, you can’t drink a proper cup of coffee without French vanilla creamer. ///////

Seriously, I don’t know how anyone drinks coffee with that crap in their coffee. Who do they think they are? Cheese eating surrender monkeys? /

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:51:35am

re: #296 lawhawk

Well, you can’t drink a proper cup of coffee without French vanilla creamer. ///////

Seriously, I don’t know how anyone drinks coffee with that crap in their coffee. Who do they think they are? Cheese eating surrender monkeys? /

They have enough cows, they can make their own cheese before surrendering…

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:52:57am

re: #296 lawhawk

Well, you can’t drink a proper cup of coffee without French vanilla creamer. ///////

Seriously, I don’t know how anyone drinks coffee with that crap in their coffee. Who do they think they are? Cheese eating surrender monkeys? /

Heh. Reminds me of a little mishap our (former) lead guitarist had in our basement music studio. We were jamming and he stopped quick and ran out the door to grab a towel from my laundry room. I looked down and noticed he had kicked over his cup of coffee he had brought with him. I went to help him and I saw this light brown puddle of what looked to me like baby upchuck. I said to him I thought you said it was coffee. He had so much creamy French whatever in it it had no look or consistency of coffee. WTF?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:54:12am

re: #290 CuriousLurker

Have they renamed it to Patriot Freedom Vanilla Creamer yet?

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:55:32am

re: #299 Dr. Matt

Have they renamed it to Patriot Freedom Vanilla Creamer yet?

They probably refuse to hold their pinky up when drinking.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:57:56am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Just imagine if Iranian sailors accidentally floated into US waters. Do you think a Republican president would be so quick to release them as the Iranians were of our sailors?

Precisely.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 8:59:17am

re: #289 ObserverArt

So, wasn’t Nikki Haley response to Obama last night sold as the GOP’s way to get back at Trump??? It appears to have failed in that regard. All the crazy wingnuts are dumping on her.

And of course Mr. Ugly Grunt TRUMP(r) was critical. From this NPR online article…

NPR - Trump And Supporters Hit Back At Nikki Haley’s Jabs

And a tweet from Laura Ingrham…

Stand back ever’one…that party is going to blow!!!

(well, we knows it blows…but this would be blow up!)

That convention is going to be the establishment’s worst nightmare come true. Serves them right.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:00:02am

re: #290 CuriousLurker

I am no military expert. This gentleman who is in this video knows his stuff. I would rather hear more from him rather than anybody else. He is going over almost every detail and picking out all of their, Bundy and his supporters, mistakes. People should pay attention to this gentleman.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:01:19am

re: #246 nines09

It happened immediately after the SOTU. The GOP don’t let no moss grow on their hate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:01:20am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Just imagine if Iranian sailors accidentally floated into US waters. Do you think a Republican president would be so quick to release them as the Iranians were of our sailors?

Just imagine if the Iranians had a strategic interest in the natural resources of our region and maintained a military presence there to protect access, and that the Iranians had launched a secret coup in the 1950’s to overthrow our democratically elected government and replace it with a corrupt monarch in order to protect their investments…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:03:40am

re: #293 sagehen

If he was a “tough bird”, he’d be rolling his own instead of smoking store-bought. Real Mancunians are laughing at him.

City or United? Or has this bird been priced out of football?

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:04:55am

re: #304 WhatEVs

It happened immediately after the SOTU. The GOP don’t let no moss grow on their hate.

They didn’t even wait for Obama to deliver the address before they were slamming it. Dickheads.

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sagehen  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:05:34am

re: #306 Barefoot Grin

City or United? Or has this bird been priced out of football?

ManU, of course. And he’s got his own way into the stadium, he don’t need no stinkin’ ticket…

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:06:10am

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

Finished up season 3 of “Luther” last night. Well, I finished it up. Mrs. FBW called it a night after the 3rd episode, but it was only 10:00.

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There’s talk of a Luther feature film.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:07:36am

re: #303 PhillyPretzel

Ditto—I’m no military expert, but the guy sounded rational for the most part and seems like he knows what he’s talking about. I actually watched the entire video, which I usually don’t do with preppers because most tend to veer off into conspiracy theory land.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:09:08am

re: #309 WhatEVs

There’s talk of a Luther feature film.

I don’t go to the movies (the last one we went to in a theter was the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie, LOL), but I’d make an exception for that.

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KGxvi  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:10:05am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

My guess is the establishment still thinks that there’s enough “reasonable”/”Main Street”/non-Tea Party Republicans left in the primary electorate that they’ll eventually be able to turn back Trump and/or Cruz. In part because that’s the way it’s always gone down for them. Reagan was the crank in ‘76 and Ford got the nomination; Buchanan in ‘92 and ‘96 was the same thing; Huckabee in 2008, Santorum in 2012. There’s always the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving who yells inappropriately at guests (usually not realizing that said guest is gay or has a biracial child or wasn’t born in the US or whatever), but eventually the electorate settles down and goes with the respectable choice.

I’m just not sure there’s enough of those reasonable Republicans left. The older ones have died off and many of us younger ones have left the party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:11:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:12:55am

Ann Coulter reared her ugly head again I see. She says Haley should be deported by Trump. Stay kkklassy Annie. I mean the disgusting bigotry aside, Haley is as American as bigoted Ann is. The Trump wing of the party is really showing how ugly they are when they’re dealing with Haley’s response. Haley of course remains part of a party filled with people who think this way so she’s not exactly someone I feel a ton of sympathy for just like Cruz having birthers.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:13:17am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But guns should be allowed at bars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:14:04am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:14:20am

re: #312 KGxvi

My guess is the establishment still thinks that there’s enough “reasonable”/”Main Street”/non-Tea Party Republicans left in the primary electorate that they’ll eventually be able to turn back Trump and/or Cruz. In part because that’s the way it’s always gone down for them. Reagan was the crank in ‘76 and Ford got the nomination; Buchanan in ‘92 and ‘96 was the same thing; Huckabee in 2008, Santorum in 2012. There’s always the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving who yells inappropriately at guests (usually not realizing that said guest is gay or has a biracial child or wasn’t born in the US or whatever), but eventually the electorate settles down and goes with the respectable choice.

I’m just not sure there’s enough of those reasonable Republicans left. The older ones have died off and many of us younger ones have left the party.

Sounds pretty spot on to me. I think this is the time the Crazy Uncle is finally going to get his voice heard loud and clear.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:14:57am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But he would have done so while smiling and telling a self depreciating joke. Sell arms for the Gipper!

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:15:22am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was just running in to post that. Geez, these guys are stupid.

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sagehen  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:15:25am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another Responsible, Law-Abiding Gun Owner.

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:16:45am

Seems to be a habit with these guys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:16:57am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anti-Obama march organizer fatally shoots right-wing militant buddy in drunken dispute

WELL REGULATED MILITIA

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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:17:14am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Oh shut the fuck up already Chris, does everything have to be tough guy posture with you right wing fucks?

They’re tough guys except when right wing terrorists take over government property with arms. Then, well, maybe they have a point.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:17:16am

Only in Austin…cool.

Bowie Street sign ch-ch-changed to honor David Bowie in Downtown Austin

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:21:36am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Guns, guns, guns, glorious guns!

And alcohol added to people that are in full-time rage…not a good mixture.

And the dead guy was the guy that had the failed 2 Million Bikers 2 DC protest a couple years back. These guys are so freaking crazy. It’s just like Jon Ritzheimer…they keep trying to get all these people to be as wingnutty as they are and yet when it blows up and falls apart as the dud protest it was always going to be they can’t get it through their pee-sized brains no once cares.

I think I’ve had my full morning dose of conservative/wingnut craziness. Back later.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:22:06am

Exposing the right wing as delusional know-nothings who hope for US failure so as to gain political power.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:23:54am

re: #326 lawhawk

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Exposing the right wing as delusional know-nothings who hope for US failure so as to gain political power.

Exposing the deep seated racism that has always existed in the conservative movement, easy. But yeah Bill-O, ISIS running wild is all President Obama’s fault. Nevermind the fact that the Republican Congress refuses to help him with jack shit because they hate him more than they love our country.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:24:40am

All’s I wanted for my combat coffee was some FVC and all I got was a Bag-O-D*cks……. Haters!

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:24:53am

re: #196 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

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If memory serves, he would usually get about 10 retweets per idiotic tweet. How would that have advanced anyone’s policy objectives? Methinks, once again, the Rager has vastly over-estimated his influence and importance.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:27:01am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the most unbelievable part of that Raw Story post. :-)

Texas law prohibits licensed gun owners from carrying firearms while intoxicated, regardless of whether the weapon is holstered or concealed.

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Jenner7  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:29:07am

re: #326 lawhawk

His legacy is leading the country out of a recession with ZERO help from Republicans.

His legacy is providing millions more with healthcare with ZERO help from Republicans.

His legacy is saving the auto industry with ZERO help with Republicans.

Lesson: Republicans are useless, don’t put them in charge any time soon.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:29:41am

re: #330 WhatEVs

But hey, we’ll let you carry ‘em into restaurants, bars, and other establishments that serve alcoholic beverages.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:30:29am

re: #331 Jenner7

His legacy is leading the country out of a recession with ZERO help from Republicans.

His legacy is providing millions more with healthcare with ZERO help from Republicans.

His legacy is saving the auto industry with ZERO help with Republicans.

Lesson: Republicans are useless, don’t put them in charge any time soon.

I wouldn’t even put them in charge of a play I wanted to flop on purpose.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:30:33am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anti-Obama march organizer fatally shoots right-wing militant buddy in drunken dispute

Two fewer armed assholes on the streets.

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:35:41am

Looks like they have something in common.
ISIS supporter joins Ammon Bundy’s armed occupation as resident computer expert

rawstory.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:36:13am

Let’s start dropping some FAE’s and suck up as much oxygen as we can.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:36:41am

re: #335 Tigger2

Looks like they have something in common.

rawstory.com

Unpossible, ISIS loves the US government. //

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Jenner7  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:36:43am

Oh dear. Time to go to war with Iran now.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:37:36am

re: #335 Tigger2

Looks like they have something in common.
ISIS supporter joins Ammon Bundy’s armed occupation as resident computer expert

rawstory.com

Yeah, he’s a charmer. This is from his Google page. Yup, a real charmer.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:38:03am

Back to ask a question for anyone that knows about all stringed instruments. The 5-stringed guitar-like instrument the main singer is playing is called a what? I can’t say I’ve ever seen a 5-stringed instrument like that. Is it still considered a guitar or is it called something else.

By the way…they are very good. They get a lot of sound and textures out of their instruments. And they can sing.

Charles always puts up the great tuneage for us. Thanks Charles.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:38:15am

re: #339 WhatEVs

Yeah, he’s a charmer. This is from his Google page. Yup, a real charmer.

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This person must have a wonderful newsletter. I would like to subscribe.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:39:05am

re: #339 WhatEVs

Yeah, he’s a charmer. This is from his Google page. Yup, a real charmer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:40:58am

re: #340 ObserverArt

Back to ask a question for anyone that knows about all stringed instruments. The 5-stringed guitar-like instrument the main singer is playing is called a what? I can’t say I’ve ever seen a 5-stringed instrument like that. Is it still considered a guitar or is it called something else.

By the way…they are very good. They get a lot of sound and textures out of their instruments. And they can sing.

Charles always puts up the great tuneage for us. Thanks Charles.

guitarron, I believe, a sort of cello/bass, common in mariachi music

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jaunte  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:41:46am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:42:03am

re: #339 WhatEVs

Yeah, he’s a charmer. This is from his Google page. Yup, a real charmer.

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He looks to be 90 lbs soaking wet. i.e., another armed wimp who is upset he was dealt a lousy hand in life.

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withak  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:43:48am

re: #345 Dr. Matt

He looks to be 90 lbs soaking wet. i.e., another armed wimp who is upset he was dealt a lousy hand in life.

Aren’t all the cool MRA kids calling that a “manlet” nowadays?

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:45:48am

Lottery Ha! Oh, reality. You are so cruel.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:46:34am

re: #321 jaunte

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Seems to be a habit with these guys.

Just think tho’, if he didn’t have a gun he would have had to beat the guy to death with a baseball bat. Not nearly as clean, quick and effective.

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:46:44am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

guitarron, I believe, a sort of cello/bass, common in mariachi music

Isn’t that the what the taller woman on the far left is playing? I was wondering about the smaller 5-string instrument the woman next to her is playing.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:47:05am
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iossarian  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:47:14am

re: #347 WhatEVs

So, you’re telling me there’s a chance?

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:47:44am

re: #340 ObserverArt

Back to ask a question for anyone that knows about all stringed instruments. The 5-stringed guitar-like instrument the main singer is playing is called a what? I can’t say I’ve ever seen a 5-stringed instrument like that. Is it still considered a guitar or is it called something else.

By the way…they are very good. They get a lot of sound and textures out of their instruments. And they can sing.

Charles always puts up the great tuneage for us. Thanks Charles.

I believe it’s called a Vihuela. They can have up to 12 strings (in courses, or pairs, like a regular 12 sting guitar), but they are popular in the five-string configuration.

The Guitarron is also made in a 5-string configuration, but I notice that the woman playing the one in the video has a six-string model.

Also - they are good. The vocals were surprisingly contemporary for the style they’re working in, and the melding of the two works a lot better than I’d have imagined.

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Skip Intro  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:48:14am

re: #330 WhatEVs

This is the most unbelievable part of that Raw Story post. :-)

What a stupid oversight. Nothing in the 2nd Amendment says anything about being drunk. I’m sure the Texas legislature will fix this shocking infringement on 2A rights.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:48:49am

re: #350 WhatEVs

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She’s gone a long way from being South Carolina flavored Palin. I notice the people hating on ehr like Trump, Ingraham, and Coulter are people who have never had to govern before. I mean I don’t like Nikki Haley at all, I think she’s a big part of the problem that is the GOP but she actually is responsible for the welfare of a state rather than those three that just fling shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:49:42am

re: #352 makeitstop

I believe it’s called a Vihuela. They can have up to 12 strings (in courses, or pairs, like a regular 12 sting guitar), but they are popular in the five-string configuration.

The Guitarron is also made in a 5-string configuration, but I notice that the woman playing the one in the video has a six-string model.

Also - they are good. The vocals were surprisingly contemporary for the style they’re working in, and the melding of the two works a lot better than I’d have imagined.

I never woulda noticed, I just assumed it was a 5-string guitar.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:50:02am

re: #351 iossarian

So, you’re telling me there’s a chance?

Heh when I first saw Dumb and Dumber, I was seven so i really didn’t understand odds so I didn’t get why Mary saying one in a million (by the way more of a chance than we have of winning Powerball) was so funny. That movie is actually more funny to me now that I get things that I didn’t as a kid.

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:50:24am

re: #312 KGxvi

My guess is the establishment still thinks that there’s enough “reasonable”/”Main Street”/non-Tea Party Republicans left in the primary electorate that they’ll eventually be able to turn back Trump and/or Cruz. In part because that’s the way it’s always gone down for them. Reagan was the crank in ‘76 and Ford got the nomination; Buchanan in ‘92 and ‘96 was the same thing; Huckabee in 2008, Santorum in 2012. There’s always the crazy uncle at Thanksgiving who yells inappropriately at guests (usually not realizing that said guest is gay or has a biracial child or wasn’t born in the US or whatever), but eventually the electorate settles down and goes with the respectable choice.

I’m just not sure there’s enough of those reasonable Republicans left. The older ones have died off and many of us younger ones have left the party.

All I can say is that the Tea Party is alive and well in South Carolina. Their annual orgasmafest in Myrtle Beach is this weekend, and I believe it is sold out. Unfortunately, their presence on MLK weekend means that several of them will show their ugly mugs at the MLK breakfast next Monday (last time around it was Perry and Newt), pretty much ruining the event from my perspective.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:50:29am

re: #347 WhatEVs

And yet almost everyone is playing. We all have a dream of quitting the 9-5 rat race and being our own bosses. Being one’s own boss is much tougher than most 9-5 jobs. That is why when my co-workers ask me what would you do if you win; I respond the first thing I will do is make a print out of said numbers attach it to “winning” ticket and then call my accountant and attorney. My co-workers do not get it.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:50:43am

re: #351 iossarian

So, you’re telling me there’s a chance?

Of course! I bought tickets. WTH, right?

That dot…6000 rows down, 12th from the left…that’s ME!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:51:19am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

She’s gone a long way from being South Carolina flavored Palin. I notice the people hating on ehr like Trump, Ingraham, and Coulter are people who have never had to govern before. I mean I don’t like Nikki Haley at all, I think she’s a big part of the problem that is the GOP but she actually is responsible for the welfare of a state rather than those three that just fling shit.

She had the Confederate flag removed from the state capitol building. Few things as sacred in wingnut world as the flag flown by those who fought against the US.

#patriots

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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:52:41am

re: #352 makeitstop

I believe it’s called a Vihuela. They can have up to 12 strings (in courses, or pairs, like a regular 12 sting guitar), but they are popular in the five-string configuration.

The Guitarron is also made in a 5-string configuration, but I notice that the woman playing the one in the video has a six-string model.

Also - they are good. The vocals were surprisingly contemporary for the style they’re working in, and the melding of the two works a lot better than I’d have imagined.

You are correct. I just found that out in a google search under “5 string guitar mariachi” for the search term.

I remember having dinner in Orlando Florida many years ago at a real Mexican restaurant and they had a full Mariachi band with I believe 8 guys in it. I was amazed at how they could play so dynamically at such a low volume that did not disturb the diners.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:54:08am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

She’s gone a long way from being South Carolina flavored Palin. I notice the people hating on ehr like Trump, Ingraham, and Coulter are people who have never had to govern before. I mean I don’t like Nikki Haley at all, I think she’s a big part of the problem that is the GOP but she actually is responsible for the welfare of a state rather than those three that just fling shit.

Wasn’t Haley a tea party darling just a few years back, i.e., before the confed rag came down?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:56:25am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t Haley a tea party darling just a few years back, i.e., before the confed rag came down?

She never really caught fire withe the base.

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:57:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:58:22am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:58:28am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t Haley a tea party darling just a few years back, i.e., before the confed rag came down?

Yeah she was. Palin loved her hence why I called her South Carolina flavored Palin. She has wrongly taken even from some SC Democrats crap about her ethnicity which is irrelevant to that she’s a hack and terrilbe governor. I do appreciate that she signed the bill but just before she was acting like the flag wasn’t a big deal.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 9:58:50am

re: #358 PhillyPretzel

And yet almost everyone is playing. We all have a dream of quitting the 9-5 rat race and being our own bosses. Being one’s own boss is much tougher than most 9-5 jobs. That is why when my co-workers ask me what would you do if you win; I respond the first thing I will do is make a print out of said numbers attach it to “winning” ticket and then call my accountant and attorney. My co-workers do not get it.

I am an anomoly, I guess. I love my job and wouldn’t want to quit. I would be happy to reduce hours (I tend to do 60-75 on a regular basis…some days, like today, are light, which I relish!), but I have been having trouble:

1) wrapping my head around this much money. If you did the 20 year payout, that is $75,000,000 per year. That alone I can barely comprehend.

2) what on earth would I spend that much money on (a new house, new car, possibly a mini-winnegago van, and, I’m done).

That said, I would definitely create my own PAC and go the MoveOn route, so for that alone, winning would be great.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:00:16am

re: #364 Tigger2

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Not surprised. Trump is a right wing populist. Despite being a billionaire, his big appeal is with the right wing masses more so than the fat cat crowd.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:00:22am

re: #361 ObserverArt

You are correct. I just found that out in a google search under “5 string guitar mariachi” for the search term.

I remember having dinner in Orlando Florida many years ago at a real Mexican restaurant and they had a full Mariachi band with I believe 8 guys in it. I was amazed at how they could play so dynamically at such a low volume that did not disturb the diners.

We went to one of our favorite Mex joints for dinner over the weekend, and they used to have Mariachi every weekend. But as the place got more popular, they added more tables and now there’s not enough room to squeeze in a small Mariachi band.

They had a woman singing Spanish songs to tracks. She was good, but it wasn’t the same. Pity, I enjoyed watching a good Mariachi band.

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:01:35am
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ObserverArt  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:02:11am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t Haley a tea party darling just a few years back, i.e., before the confed rag came down?

Yep.

And you’d think by now the Tea Party types would have figured out candidates like Haley were just there to be used by the GOP. Once elected into the party the party tried to mainstream, or establish them as real Republicans. It is why it has been a rocky relationship. This election might bring the big breakup.

Even TRUMP is using them, it is just not clear as to what end. If he is the nominee, will he too be just another Republican and the people he conned into thinking he was for them get screwed? If Trump thinks he can be this crazy and then do a complete turn to be seen as electable in the presidential elections there is going to be hell to pay.

I wonder if Trump realizes he is playing with unstable characters and if they do not get what they want, they may well take it all out on him.

Later…

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Jenner7  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:06:38am

This is reason #4030 we need to keep a Democrat (and cooler heads) in the WH.

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withak  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:08:02am

re: #372 Jenner7

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This is reason #4030 we need to keep a Democrat (and cooler heads) in the WH.

Does Woods think that that situation would have ended more peaceably had there been no #IranDeal?

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ausador  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:09:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:09:51am

re: #372 Jenner7

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This is reason #4030 we need to keep a Democrat (and cooler heads) in the WH.

I respect Woods’ talents as an actor but as a political commentator, he shows himself to be nothing but a pathetic hack. Really, they were in Iranian waters. Woods, ask yourself how we would feel if we found an Iranian Navy ship in our waters. All things considered giving our countries relationship, I think the situation was handled as well as it could. SO no James, no shame on Barack Obama, shame on right wing assholes like you who think he’s always wrong no matter what.

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:10:21am
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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:10:34am

re: #373 withak

Does Woods think that that situation would have ended more peaceably had there been no #IranDeal?

There’s no evidence that anything would have been different with or without the deal.

This was an instance where a sovereign nation addressed an armed ship/boat entering their territorial waters and investigating and determining that there were mechanical issues - not anything else.

They were released as promised.

The right wing wants to turn this into another Benghazi. #FactFreeGOP since 93.

378
sagehen  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:10:49am

re: #367 WhatEVs

2) what on earth would I spend that much money on (a new house, new car, possibly a mini-winnegago van, and, I’m done).

If you immediately put 80% of your winnings into a tax-free foundation, you don’t have to pay income tax on that $. Then you spend your days looking for worthy causes and writing checks. If you give away $20M a year, that would take your whole life.

And the 20% you kept… that’s for the really nice house you live in meantime, and as many really fun vacations as you want. (pro-tip… chartering a jet means you’re not subject to airline schedules, TSA checkin, etc. Makes the trips a whole lot more fun).

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wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:11:02am

re: #373 withak

Does Woods think?

Shortened for pertinence.

380
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:11:44am

re: #372 Jenner7

This is reason #4030 we need to keep a Democrat (and cooler heads) in the WH.

But I guess Woods doesn’t mind seeing Americans without healthcare.

381
BeachDem  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:11:45am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

She’s gone a long way from being South Carolina flavored Palin. I notice the people hating on ehr like Trump, Ingraham, and Coulter are people who have never had to govern before. I mean I don’t like Nikki Haley at all, I think she’s a big part of the problem that is the GOP but she actually is responsible for the welfare of a state rather than those three that just fling shit.

And such an excellent job she’s doing:

SC #1 in deadly violence against women thestate.com

7th worst for teachers
wjbf.com

42nd in per capita income. 45th in well-being of children. Below average for dam safety. And on and on.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:12:01am

re: #372 Jenner7

This is reason #4030 we need to keep a Democrat (and cooler heads) in the WH.

Conservatives are so desperate to turn the Iran non-situation into some sort of diplomatic failure and controversy. They hate the fact that it was settled quickly, cleanly, and amicably.

383
Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:12:34am

Just posted a round-up on all the screeching in the RWNJ-o-sphere about Nikki Haley, now that she’s dared attack the Holy Trumpster. I even scrolled through the comments on Breitbart and Ace o’ Spades.

You’re welcome.

Now I need a shower. And some cute kitty videos.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:13:04am

re: #381 BeachDem

And such an excellent job she’s doing:

SC #1 in deadly violence against women thestate.com

7th worst for teachers
wjbf.com

42nd in per capita income. 45th in well-being of children. Below average for dam safety. And on and on.

But hey she stood up to the hated unions!(even though unions are a historical weak and SC has always been pretty hostile to them.) Speaking of that, when doing my family tree, I found an old article from Stars and Stripes about how hostile the South was to Unionization and my grandfather- NLRB man was quoted in it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:13:27am

re: #383 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

I even scrolled through the comments on Breitbart and Ace o’ Spades.

Without pay?

386
WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:13:57am

re: #377 lawhawk

The right wing wants to turn this into another Benghazi. #FactFreeGOP since 93.

Precisely correct. That’s exactly what they wanted.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:15:08am

re: #383 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

Just posted a round-up on all the screeching in the RWNJ-o-sphere about Nikki Haley, now that she’s dared attack the Holy Trumpster. I even scrolled through the comments on Breitbart and Ace o’ Spades.

You’re welcome.

Now I need a shower. And some cute kitty videos.

The way they treat their own is why one should have little faith in their ability to govern us all. Haley’s not a RINO, she’s not a moderate, she’s every bit part of why the GOP is a toxic vat of shit in the Obama years but because she criticized King Donald, she’s suddenly a RINO and not a real conservative. You know purer than thou conservatives, there’s a place for you and it’s in the dustbin of history. Modern American doesn’t have a place for racist reactionary assholes.

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Lidane  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:15:10am

LOL:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:16:21am

re: #388 Lidane

LOL:

[Embedded content]

I’m ready for my close up, Mr. Ailes.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:16:21am

re: #388 Lidane

LOL:

Sounds like Dr. Rand is taking career advice from Rage Furby. Was Dr. Rand relegated to the kiddie debate? Are they still having those?

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:16:23am

re: #388 Lidane

I think the #Bundymilitia has a box of dicks that they can send to Rand.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:17:11am

Speaking of which, when is the next GOP debate?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:18:08am

re: #392 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Speaking of which, when is the next GOP debate?

Tomorrow? Hot diggity-doggies. How’s our popcorn stash?

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:18:46am

re: #393 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Pass the popcorn
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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:19:29am

re: #392 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Speaking of which, when is the next GOP debate?

You mean the Republican infomercial.

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Lidane  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:20:19am

re: #393 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Tomorrow? Hot diggity-doggies. How’s our popcorn stash?

Running a bit low:

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:20:46am

re: #360 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

She had the Confederate flag removed from the state capitol building. Few things as sacred in wingnut world as the flag flown by those who fought against the US.

#patriots

She only came around to taking the flag down when it was politically expedient for her to do so. Her immediate response after the Charleston massacre:

But Haley said her job right now is to heal, not to have policy conversations.

“To start having policy conversations with the people of South Carolina, I understand that’s what y’all want. My job is to heal the people of this state,” Haley said…

Haley has argued that the flag over the state’s Capitol is a “sensitive issue,” but has said it’s not worth removing the flag. Haley also argued that South Carolina’s image problem with race was “fixed” when the state elected her, the first Indian-American female governor, and appointed Republican Tim Scott, an African American, to replace Jim DeMint in the U.S. Senate.

huffingtonpost.com

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:21:57am

re: #388 Lidane

After Boycotting Debate, Rand Paul Asks Fox Business to Include Him on Main Stage

Translation: A republican presidential candidate’s overly emotional first response was wrong.

Once again proving that the GOP have zero business being in positions of leadership.

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Alephnaught  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:23:19am

re: #383 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

Just posted a round-up on all the screeching in the RWNJ-o-sphere about Nikki Haley, now that she’s dared attack the Holy Trumpster. I even scrolled through the comments on Breitbart and Ace o’ Spades.

You’re welcome.

Now I need a shower. And some cute kitty videos.

This page?

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BeachDem  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:23:57am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Yeah she was. Palin loved her hence why I called her South Carolina flavored Palin. She has wrongly taken even from some SC Democrats crap about her ethnicity which is irrelevant to that she’s a hack and terrilbe governor. I do appreciate that she signed the bill but just before she was acting like the flag wasn’t a big deal.

One slight correction, it was a SC REPUBLICAN who called her that name, not a Democrat.

cbsnews.com

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Dave80  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:24:15am

re: #377 lawhawk

Main thing is without the deal is that it would have been more likely that this escalated into dick waving and chestbeating? Especially if our policy towards Iran at the time involved that. As it is relations are still sour enough that Iran will use this as a small propaganda boost at home; I don’t care because really harmless to us. And I don’t know why running around freaking out about things is considered manly and tough by a certain set.
Obviously no way to establish that minus the deal that this would have been worse but I do think it’s reasonable to posit that the odds of it being more confrontational somewhere would have been higher. As it is the body language of the Sailors (Marines I haven’t followed closely enough to be sure) doesn’t even seem that worried. Wary yes, following commands cause they were smart enough not to escalate yes, but not the posture of people that think they are really screwed.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:24:37am

re: #388 Lidane

After Boycotting Debate, Rand Paul Asks Fox Business to Include Him on Main Stage bit.ly

CAPITULATION!!!!11!! ONLY A RINO OR DEMONCRAP CAPITULATES!!!11!! NEVILLE SOMEONEOROTHER!!!11!!! ARRRRRGH!!1111!!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:24:59am

Welp, this morning I’m being lectured on Twitter that using the word “moron” to describe people like the followers of Milo Yiannopoulos is “ableist,” and they’re not going to recommend my article on his blue checkmark tantrum until I take a “pledge” to refrain from using words like that ever again because it hurts them so much.

I just can’t even.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:25:08am

Being investigated as suspected suicide. He was in prison awaiting further charges for killing a cellmate.

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lawhawk  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:25:53am

re: #403 Charles Johnson

Welp, this morning I’m being lectured on Twitter that using the word “moron” to describe people like the followers of Milo Yiannopoulos is “ableist,” and they’re not going to recommend my article on his blue checkmark tantrum until I take a “pledge” to refrain from using words like that ever again because it hurts them so much.

I just can’t even.

Substitute asshat for moron and you’re all set.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:26:47am

re: #405 lawhawk

Substitute asshat for moron and you’re all set.

Or ‘douche nozzle’.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:26:49am

re: #403 Charles Johnson

Left Twitter can be just as obnoxious as right Twitter. Just in different ways.

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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:27:09am
409
Dr. Matt  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:27:42am

re: #407 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Left Twitter can be just as obnoxious as right Twitter. Just in different ways.

Dude bros vs. wingnuts is like Aliens vs. Predators: two loads of shits.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:27:51am

The right wing of the party just can’t stand being told they’re wrong. They think they are the only heirs to the Founding Fathers when frankly I think many of them would have been fine to stay with the British. They think only they understand the Constitution even though the President himself is a trained Constitutional lawyer.They think they are the only real Americans. They’re mental toddlers who can’t accept that this is a different and better I might add America than the one they grew up in.

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Dave80  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:27:51am

re: #382 Dr. Matt

Definitely as opposed to seeing that this is how disputes between nations that aren’t allies or super friendly but not really enemies and barely even adversaries end up resolved. At least as long as people behave like adults. 50/50 if a R administration would have made it worse by chest-pounding or being expected to chest pound (I only say 50/50 because that’s about the split I see for cynically hoping this went worse and using it because of Obama and the group that actually think this is some huge affront deal)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:28:06am

re: #400 BeachDem

One slight correction, it was a SC REPUBLICAN who called her that name, not a Democrat.

cbsnews.com

Thanks.

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Belafon  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:28:35am

re: #370 Tigger2

What the billionaires on the right have are more rubes that will take their money to kill the other side.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:28:51am

re: #404 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Being investigated as suspected suicide. He was in prison awaiting further charges for killing a cellmate.

Just as the Rams move back to LA weirdly enough. That guy’s a sad story. He had a lot of talent but he had a lot of problem too. I think Dick Vermeil even teared up when he had to cut him.

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Lidane  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:29:09am

Sounds like these guys are finally getting tired of all the bags of dicks they’re getting instead of food:

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:33:39am

re: #415 Lidane

Exit strategy: We are sick and tired of this place so we are leaving.

Let us hope and pray that this situation does not explode.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:34:44am

re: #415 Lidane

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:34:46am

re: #390 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Sounds like Dr. Rand is taking career advice from Rage Furby. Was Dr. Rand relegated to the kiddie debate? Are they still having those?

Amazingly, yes. All its denizens will be out of the race by mid February, however.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:36:29am
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Belafon  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:36:40am

re: #415 Lidane

As they walk out, they get handed a bill, a court summons, and put in handcuffs. They won’t need to worry about their own transportation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:36:56am
422
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:37:10am
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iossarian  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:37:24am

re: #416 PhillyPretzel

Exit strategy: We are sick and tired of this place so we are leaving.

Let us hope and pray that this situation does not explode.

If there are still people on the right who are a bit slow on the uptake about why “black lives matter” is a thing (which there are), this whole fiasco is exhibit A through Z as to why “all lives matter” entirely misses the fucking point.

12-year old black kid plays with BB gun in park -> cops roll up and shoot on sight

Black man picks up gun for sale in store -> cops roll up and shoot on sight

Heavily armed white guys illegally occupy property and threaten neighbors -> careful de-escalation is negotiated so that everyone can go home with pride intact.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:38:36am

re: #408 WhatEVs

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Of course. She’s the Pope’s law-talkin’ dudette in Alaska.

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wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:38:53am

In New Mexico, Mariachi is a high school activity.

DMD (Deming Mariachi Department): El Rey

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ausador  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:40:53am

re: #416 PhillyPretzel

Exit strategy: We are sick and tired of this place so we are leaving.

Let us hope and pray that this situation does not explode.

I’ll believe it when I see it, maybe they realized public opinion is against them and see them as a joke. But I think that might be giving them too much credit for intelligence.

With this sovereign court nonsense getting into gear I don’t see any signs of improvement yet.

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wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:41:22am

re: #425 wrenchwench

In New Mexico, Mariachi is a high school activity.

[Embedded content]

Totally outclassed by Texas.

2013 Texas State High School Mariachi Competition Stephen F Austin Middle School Academy Performance

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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:43:55am

re: #426 ausador

I’ll believe it when I see it, maybe they realized public opinion is against them and see them as a joke. But I think that might be giving them too much credit for intelligence.

With this sovereign court nonsense getting into gear I don’t see any signs of improvement yet.

I agree with the joke part.

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Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:44:11am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

The gem from that story? This:

Texas law prohibits licensed gun owners from carrying firearms while intoxicated, regardless of whether the weapon is holstered or concealed.

The jokes pretty much write themselves, at that point.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:44:35am

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Lidane  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:45:17am
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WhatEVs  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:45:27am

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sometimes comments are the best.

FreedomOfSpeechInOregon

The media, (i.e. Olive), is playing this to scare the really, really stupid people of Portlandia (redundant). Why isn’t President Obozo proposing restrictions and standards on the MM (Mindless Media)? Clearly the MM is trying to get people killed so they can profit from it. Clearly the MM is frightening Portlandia for profit.

What is sad is that Portlandia can’t see when they are being played.

@ FreedomOfSpeechInOregon it is a redflag operation by the sex toy industry to sell more bags of dks. Really what is your address, I’ll send you some.

433
b_sharp  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:47:09am

re: #430 CuriousLurker

[Embedded content]

We can do that?

[smell]This is a test of my deodorant[/smell]

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HappyWarrior  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:47:25am

re: #431 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Embedded Image

Of course, diplomacy isn’t in Gohmert’s dictionary. Thanks Louie, showing us again why your party shouldn’t be trusted even running a swimming pool.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:47:56am

re: #404 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Being investigated as suspected suicide. He was in prison awaiting further charges for killing a cellmate.

the fuck

436
Kragar  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:48:54am
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iossarian  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:49:30am

The GOP is seriously disappointed that we didn’t get to have a war.

What a bunch of fuckwits.

438
CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:50:08am

Heh, I don’t know why the small text thing isn’t working for me. Maybe I need to log out, clear my cache & log back in. Not in the mood to do it right now tho.

439
Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:52:24am

re: #385 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Without pay?

Oh, I’m paying for it, believe me. I found myself having to stop and walk around a bit, the concentrated frustration, hatred and rage was so intense.

440
CuriousLurker  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:53:03am

re: #433 b_sharp

re: #438 CuriousLurker

Argh! My #438 was supposed to be in response to b_sharp’s #433. I clearly can’t do two things at once, so I’m gonna continue working and will BBL.

441
Kragar  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:55:14am
442
Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:56:17am
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Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:56:23am

re: #399 Alephnaught

This page?

Yep, that’s the one. Sorry I didn’t include the link earlier. It really is stunning, to see the fracture lines in the GOP start to come out into the open. The establishment is bailing, backing & filling as frantically as they can, and The Base, poisoned by decades of Hate Radio and Fox News, has got the bit between its teeth.

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Kilroy01  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:56:44am

re: #436 Kragar

I’m sure some of these Militia assholes will give them a good home when no one is watching.

445
wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:57:45am

re: #439 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

Oh, I’m paying for it, believe me. I found myself having to stop and walk around a bit, the concentrated frustration, hatred and rage was so intense.

Have a four minute cat video.

Crazy cats clip video - Very FUNNY

446
retired cynic  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:58:19am

re: #408 WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

Jim Wright (Stonekettle) is epic on the topic of ‘Judge Anna.’ Highly recommended.

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makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:59:05am

re: #425 wrenchwench

In New Mexico, Mariachi is a high school activity.

[Embedded content]

Video

That’s so cool.

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2016 • 10:59:31am

re: #444 Kilroy01

I’m sure some of these Militia assholes will give them a good home when no one is watching.

“C’mon guys. If we practice with them long enough, think of all the stuff we could could conceal carry!”

449
makeitstop  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:03:26am

re: #427 wrenchwench

Totally outclassed by Texas.

[Embedded content]

Video

They’re obviously so proud of their culture. It must really hurt those kids to see their state leaders (not to mention national would-be leaders) denigrate them so.

450
wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:03:43am
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Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:04:05am

re: #445 wrenchwench

Have a four minute cat video.

[Embedded content]

Video

Ahhh. Much better now.

(Pauses to go into next room, pick up fat lazy white kitty & plop onto lap)

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:04:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:04:58am
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Tigger2  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:05:28am
455
wrenchwench  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:06:15am

re: #452 Kragar

[Embedded content]

They’ll be radicalizing the 4-Hers at the rodeos.

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Kragar  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:07:10am
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Lidane  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:08:06am

Heh.

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retired cynic  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:08:11am

re: #445 wrenchwench

Have a four minute cat video.

[Embedded content]

Video

I particularly enjoyed the short clip of the cat running on water.

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Alephnaught  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:08:25am

re: #339 WhatEVs

Yeah, he’s a charmer. This is from his Google page. Yup, a real charmer.

Embedded Image

I saw this one on an earlier thread, and wondered aloud if his profile pic on the Google+ page was him doing Sarah Palin in drag. You know, as a sort of tribute. And also similar to the way some young RWNJ’s like Steve Crowder seem to like dragging up even though they’re homophobic knob-ends.

I was wrong though- that’s the way Mr Fry actually looks, apparently.

460
ausador  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:15:50am

Example of money being the root of all evil?

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Le Lapin Tueur  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:18:06am

re: #383 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

Just posted a round-up on all the screeching in the RWNJ-o-sphere about Nikki Haley, now that she’s dared attack the Holy Trumpster. I even scrolled through the comments on Breitbart and Ace o’ Spades.

You’re welcome.

Now I need a shower. And some cute kitty videos.

Eggsellent post. And, thank you for doing the truly grimy disgusting work that you did.

Have a cat vid:

Video

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Decatur Deb  Jan 13, 2016 • 11:34:26am

re: #403 Charles Johnson

Welp, this morning I’m being lectured on Twitter that using the word “moron” to describe people like the followers of Milo Yiannopoulos is “ableist,” and they’re not going to recommend my article on his blue checkmark tantrum until I take a “pledge” to refrain from using words like that ever again because it hurts them so much.

I just can’t even.

What’s their position on “bag of dicks”?


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