Oath Keepers Militia Leader Fantasizes About Civil War on Far Right Radio: Obama Wants ‘Dead Cops’ in Oregon

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The rhetoric of the far right “Patriot” movement reveals a deeply disturbed and dangerous world view. Here’s Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes (recently disbarred from practicing law in Montana) on an extremist radio show called “The Common Sense Show,” fantasizing about civil war.

White asked Rhodes what percentage of the military he thought would turn on the government “when the call comes out from Obama, for example, to confiscate guns and maybe fire on American people.” Rhodes responded that the government is imposing gun restrictions in a more incremental manner now but that if the government’s move was “taking all guns,” then a great number of the military would turn against them and “our greatest danger at that point would be a military coup.”

Hodges had a follow-up question: “If Obama does make a full-out move and if a military coup is in the cards, do you think that Obama will resort to the use of UN troops, specifically the Russians and the Chinese, to subjugate Americans and put down any rebellion?”

Rhodes responded that Obama’s use of foreign troops to quash a rebellion would be “the greatest gift” he could give the “resistance” because then “it would just piss off every other American.”

This led White to ask if the government was inflating statistics on the number of police officers who are shot on duty in an attempt to “incite incidences between the police and the citizens” because the “powers that be” want to “throw them out in the front lines and have them chewed up first in their big plan.”

“Of course, that’s what they want,” Rhodes responded. “They would love to have what they would consider the eye candy of dead cops killed by gun owners. That would give them the great PR coup of being able to point to that and say, ‘See, this is why we have to have more gun control.’”

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132 comments
1
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:28:41am

Oh yeah Putin would just be thrilled to send Obama troops!

Also, the “Common Sense Show”?? Fuck, these people are over the edge.

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Tigger2  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:29:48am

It wouldn’t piss me off I don’t agree with these asshole even a little bit. Besides it wouldn’t be Russia and China it would be Britain and other of our Allies that would come to help. But these guys are a minority I don’t really think we would need any help to stop their little fantasy rebellion.

“Rhodes responded that Obama’s use of foreign troops to quash a rebellion would be “the greatest gift” he could give the “resistance” because then “it would just piss off every other American.”

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:30:57am

First Order: Round up the Gunzzz

Second Order: FEMA Camps

Third Order: Party at Soros’ place!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:32:32am

Rand is having a sad day.

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Kryptik  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:33:35am

Yes, it’s Obama that wants dead cops, not the fuckers fantasizing about a massive shootout and trying folks in “citizen’s court” for treason because of Posse Comitatus.

Fucker.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:35:43am

The only people who keep talking about wanting to see cops dead are those assholes walking around with assault rifles saying they need them to “fight tryanny”.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:35:56am

That’s an old picture of Rhodes: the most recent ones have him wearing a leather left eyepatch a-la Moshe Dyanne.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:36:33am

Meanwhile, Milo Yiannopoulos’s followers are also getting really out there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:36:33am

re: #7 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s an old picture of Rhodes: the most recent ones have him wearing a leather left eyepatch a-la Moshe Dyanne.

Arrrrr!

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:36:56am

Resistance? To what, Vichy, D.C.?

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Kryptik  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:38:12am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Milo Yiannopoulos’s followers are also getting really out there.

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Sweet crunchy christ, are people really saying that some guy loosing his checkmark on Twitter is a hill worth dying on? I mean, fuck’s sake, he hasn’t even been suspended.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:38:25am

re: #7 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s an old picture of Rhodes: the most recent ones have him wearing a leather left eyepatch a-la Moshe Dyanne.

He’s a Nick Fury wannabee.

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Nyet  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:38:31am

Looks like there’s 69 Club now, and it’s not as much fun as it sounds :(

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:39:03am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:39:49am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Milo Yiannopoulos’s followers are also getting really out there.

Does @jack think this is just a game? If his public shaming of a public figure leads to violence, it’s on him. @TwitterIR @Nero #JeSuisMilo

“public shaming”? LOL. Conservatives are such politically correct wimps.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:39:55am

It would be interesting to look into the service history of many of these gung-ho patriots. Several of the leaders did not finish their training/tours of duty successfully. Might be simply because they were yardbirds, or the failure somehow pushed them into their militia roles.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:40:16am

re: #10 Barefoot Grin

Resistance? To what, Vichy, D.C.?

They’re resisting the nonexistent call to confiscate all the guns. This is a no-lose proposition for them, because when the order that was never going to be issued fails to be issued, they’ll claim it was their stalwart defense of liberty that dissuaded Obama from doing what he never, ever even hinted he wanted to do.

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:40:31am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Milo Yiannopoulos’s followers are also getting really out there.

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Well, these are people who think it’s cool to shoot up churches and grade schools and restaurants and movie theaters. Of course they’re fantasizing about shooting random people in the Twitter HQ — fantasizing about violence is the only thing they’re good at.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:40:47am

re: #12 The Vicious Babushka

He’s a Nick Fury wannabee.

Except for that one thing…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:41:54am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Wow, he’s into full blown CCJ territory now.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:41:58am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Rand is having a sad day.

@RandPaul has a message for the media today after his #debate demotion

From downstairs:
re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Fox News and the GOP are trying to pre-decide the election

Poor lil’ Rand, just now figuring out that the GOP actually has some say on who will be the GOP candidate.

What a putz

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:42:19am

re: #15 Dr. Matt

“public shaming”? LOL. Conservatives are such politically correct wimps.

Milo, and his BFF Baby Whiplash, are just totes down with public shaming of women they don’t like.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:42:37am

Last time the Bundys staged a standoff, two cops did get killed, and at least one other shot.

I am going to keep repeating this.

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Michael McBacon  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:43:18am

Why do so many of those who claim they have common sense exhibit so little of it?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:43:22am

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re resisting the nonexistent call to confiscate all the guns. This is a no-lose proposition for them, because when the order that was never going to be issued fails to be issued, they’ll claim it was their stalwart defense of liberty that dissuaded Obama from doing what he never, ever even hinted he wanted to do.

This is a perfect summation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:43:41am

re: #23 The Ghost of a Flea

Last time the Bundys staged a standoff, two cops did get killed, and at least one other shot.

I am going to keep repeating this.

True, but of course you know that those cops were killed by No True Scotsman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:44:05am
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freetoken  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:44:09am

Once again I will point people downstairs to my comments on the notebook of domestic terrorist Houser:

littlegreenfootballs.com

littlegreenfootballs.com

Note how the Oath Keeper fantasies are from the same playbook as Houser.

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Alephnaught  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:45:47am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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Blimey, it’s like he’s trying to provoke that mythical “purge” of Tweeter RWNJs he was blathering on about a few days ago when he first lost the blue checkmark. It’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy as slow motion car crash.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:47:56am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

give property back to The People

There really isn’t much difference between the far left and the far right, is there?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:48:04am

re: #25 Barefoot Grin

This is a perfect summation.

It’s the end of the Clinton Administration all over again. Clinton was going to declare Martial Law and cancel the election - there was even the CT about the trucks full of ‘Martial Law Declared Here’ signs.

And when Clinton stepped down on 20Jan2001, as he was always going to do, some of the folks who’d been making the claims said it was because the plot had been exposed. The other ones never mentioned it again, never said they’d been wrong about Clinton, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:48:18am

His ego is just as big as Trump’s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:48:41am

There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth on twitter right now:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:49:08am

This is why, regardless of complaints about what happens to black or Native American occupiers, the government is doing the right thing in practising a policy of complete non-escalation.

Too many people are just waiting for this to blow up and for the government to use force, justified or not. It will be held up as verification of all their paranoid gunfucker fantasies.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:49:42am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“We’re giving Pilate two days to dismantle the entire apparatus of the Roman Imperialist State!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:50:18am

This militia horseshit is just an especially vivid form of the malaise that is supposedly conservatism in the US: laws for thee, but not for me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:50:24am

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

His ego is just as big as Trump’s

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Delusions of anyone giving a fuck about his blue check mark.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:51:59am
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Emoprog Refugee  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:52:15am
Hodges had a follow-up question: “If Obama does make a full-out move and if a military coup is in the cards, do you think that Obama will resort to the use of UN troops, specifically the Russians and the Chinese, to subjugate Americans and put down any rebellion?”

What bizarro-world are these people living in? I don’t recognize their “reality” at all. Military coup, Obama makes a full-out move, Obama chooses to use the Russians and Chinese to subjugate Americans — what the fuckityfuckfuck? Is this dude broadcasting from a mental institution somewhere? Tell me he is broadcasting from a mental institution somewhere. My Zeus, Obama has been president for 7/8 years. Things are much better than they were under Bush. They’re still expecting him to bring on the zombie Russo-Chinese apocalypse? Lunatics. Utter lunatics.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:53:21am

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

The press likes to pick key moments in trends as iconic turning points. #JeSuisMilo will be seen as one of those in Twitter history.
— Milo Yiannopoulos ✘ (@Nero) January 14, 2016

He has 146K followers of which 99% are extreme radical RWNJs. He’s not that important. Most people don’t know who he is. He, like CCJ, sound like jilted lovers over twitter.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:53:47am

re: #30 Timothy Watson

There really isn’t much difference between the far left and the far right, is there?

The operational definition of “The People” makes the difference.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:55:59am

SHOCKER

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:56:34am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:56:43am

When I was living in south-central Indiana a friend told me about some guys he worked with who refused to drive on IN-37 or any other highway with certain reflective tags on the backs of official signage. He explained their belief that these were guidance devices for UN forces.

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:57:33am

re: #39 Emoprog Refugee

What bizarro-world are these people living in? I don’t recognize their “reality” at all. Military coup, Obama makes a full-out move, Obama chooses to use the Russians and Chinese to subjugate Americans — what the fuckityfuckfuck? Is this dude broadcasting from a mental institution somewhere? Tell me he is broadcasting from a mental institution somewhere. My Zeus, Obama has been president for 7/8 years. Things are much better than they were under Bush. They’re still expecting him to bring on the zombie Russo-Chinese apocalypse? Lunatics. Utter lunatics.

They’ve been dreaming of having their all-out super-heroic shootin’ war against the Heathen Commies and the Red Chinese and the Ayatollah Khomeni and Simon Bar Sinister since they were wee infinks. You can’t expect them to change the fantasies in their heads. The fantasies are the only way they can make sense of the world.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:59:06am

re: #38 Kragar

West calls US sailors “cowards”

When I mentioned RW leaders above, those who did not complete their tours successfully, West was at the top of my mind.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 10:59:54am

These guys have a frequent tendency to project their violent fantasies onto Obama.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:00:12am

re: #44 Barefoot Grin

That would be the date of installation tag.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:00:38am

re: #38 Kragar

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West is a coward who should be grateful he’s not in prison. Tough talk Allen, rot asshole.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:00:50am

re: #42 FormerDirtDart

“Coalition of Western States”?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:01:21am

re: #48 Kent Dorfman

That UN is really efficient/

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:01:30am

re: #50 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

“Coalition of Western States”?

The Cowfederacy.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:01:35am

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, pretty much, another day on Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:02:01am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:02:49am

re: #50 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

“Coalition of Western States”?

I was on this topic for a conversational English class I have here in town, and one of my students piped up, “Why haven’t these people been liquidated in an orderly fashion yet?”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:02:53am

re: #48 Kent Dorfman

That would be the date of installation tag.

Or so the government wants you to believe!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:03:12am

re: #44 Barefoot Grin

When I was living in south-central Indiana a friend told me about some guys he worked with who refused to drive on IN-37 or any other highway with certain reflective tags on the backs of official signage. He explained their belief that these were guidance devices for UN forces.

The galling thing about so much of the wingnut belief system is that there’s never any effort to compare with reality and adjust. Nothing they ever predict comes true, but they never say, “Gee, I guess I was wrong!”

It’s like those doomsday cults that repeatedly predict the date and time of the End Of The World, and time after time they’re wrong.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:03:14am

Heh.

CMP’s now getting sued by Planned Parenthood over the BS videos taken by Chucky’s buddy Daleidin.

Hope PP has been taking notes (by reading LGF of course).

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:03:17am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That reminds me. Isn’t today supposed to be some kind of deadline for CCJ in either the Gawker or NAF cases?

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451_Montag  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:04:09am

The thing that gets me about these militant\freeman\libertarian types is that they think after the revolution they will be sitting at the top table, doing all that being in chargey-type stuff.

Imagine if there was a military coup in the states. Do they really think that after that, the military as a whole is going to lay guns down at their feet and swear loyalty to their vision of a “New ‘Murika”?

All they will have done is swap an elected government for one that is a bit happier with the old bang sticks and aren’t afraid to use it.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:04:26am

re: #59 The Vicious Babushka

The Gawker suit has a deadline for tomorrow.

Defendants shall have through and including Friday, January 15, 2016 to file their response(s) to Plaintiffs’ Motion for Stay (Doc. 62) and Motion for Discovery (Doc. 65). Signed by District Judge Charles A. Shaw on December 28, 2015. (SMH)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:06:31am

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s just an endlessly recurring loop of what’s described in When Prophecy Fails.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:07:54am

re: #58 lawhawk

Heh.

CMP’s now getting sued by Planned Parenthood over the BS videos taken by Chucky’s buddy Daleidin.

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Hope PP has been taking notes (by reading LGF of course).

And this probably means our pal the Rage Furby is going to be included in this suit too.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:08:36am

re: #30 Timothy Watson

There really isn’t much difference between the far left and the far right, is there?

That’s what I was just thinking—sounds very similar to communist propaganda.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:09:15am

re: #30 Timothy Watson

There really isn’t much difference between the far left and the far right, is there?

It is called the ‘Moronic Convergence’.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:09:36am

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

The galling thing about so much of the wingnut belief system is that there’s never any effort to compare with reality and adjust. Nothing they ever predict comes true, but they never say, “Gee, I guess I was wrong!”

It’s like those doomsday cults that repeatedly predict the date and time of the End Of The World, and time after time they’re wrong.

This morning I was taking my son to the dentist and happened to be following a pick-up with two “InfoWars” bumper stickers. I explained to him the mindset of the Alex Jones set and told him about the influx of “free staters” supposedly moving to New Hampshire. While I was waiting for him, I picked up the local newspaper only to read about a fire in an old church—turns out it had been purchased by a free stater who claimed to have started a new church. He lived there and I don’t think he had a congregation, so he had to pay taxes on it. Of course, he refused, claiming the building was a religious institution, and was just about to get evicted. I would suspect arson, but he died in the fire. Anyway, his fellow free staters apparently liked to film themselves harassing the local tax assessor and putting their antics on youtube. Patriots, donchaknow.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:09:59am

re: #63 Charles Johnson

And this probably means our pal the Rage Furby is going to be included in this suit too.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:10:23am

re: #50 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

“Coalition of Western States”?

“Northwest Secessionist Forces”?

No, wait, that’s Deus Ex.

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Tigger2  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:10:40am
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:10:56am

re: #52 Decatur Deb

The Cowfederacy.

These “militia” members should know that it’s a lot easier to grow cows where grass grows. For some reason they’re focused on land in these arid western states.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:11:54am

Exhibit No. Eleventy thousand on how to answer a question by not answering the question asked:

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:11:58am

These loons are most upset by the fact that with all the guns in the world they still are really no closer to their “revolution” taking place.

And really…they are still thinking Obama wants to stay in power? Sheesh… He can smell the post-Presidency speaking engagement money now by traveling all over the world. He’ll gladly walk away and leave these loons behind stuck in their little fictional world.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:12:08am

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

BREAKING: PP is suing the extremists behind the smear videos. Add your name

PP be like:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:12:38am

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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Maybe, MAYBE if a Twitter executive is shot dead, they’ll start taking security on their site seriously…maybe.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:13:05am

OFFS Jeb!

The Republican presidential candidate talked specifically about whether the government has a role in addressing police shootings when it comes to civil rights issues. He said he supported the government becoming involved when there is “overt discrimination.”

“Putting aside a police officer shooting a black man, most of the crimes are black on black in the communities. Most by far,” Bush added. “The police shooting of unarmed black males, which is what the conversation is about as I understand it, is very small.”

Jeb’s understanding is… wrong. Minorities are disproportionately stopped by law enforcement. Minorities are also disproportionately the victim of excessive force, including officer involved shootings.

And part of the problem is that there’s incomplete reporting of officer involved shootings, let alone deaths. The FBI stats are incomplete in this area.

First step in figuring out how bad things truly are? Require all law enforcement to report all in-field firearm discharges and situation reports.

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451_Montag  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:13:14am

re: #68 Timothy Watson

“Northwest Secessionist Forces”?

No, wait, that’s Deus Ex.

Which just happens to be IMHO the single greatest game ever.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:16:32am

re: #75 lawhawk

OFFS Jeb!

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Jeb’s understanding is… wrong. Minorities are disproportionately stopped by law enforcement. Minorities are also disproportionately the victim of excessive force, including officer involved shootings.

And part of the problem is that there’s incomplete reporting of officer involved shootings, let alone deaths. The FBI stats are incomplete in this area.

First step in figuring out how bad things truly are? Require all law enforcement to report all in-field firearm discharges and situation reports.

Discriminatory enforcement against minorities starts in pre-K.

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:18:05am

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

I would suspect arson, but he died in the fire.

I’d still suspect arson. Sometimes, the idiot dies while committing the crime.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:18:30am

re: #75 lawhawk

OFFS Jeb!

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Jeb’s understanding is… wrong. Minorities are disproportionately stopped by law enforcement. Minorities are also disproportionately the victim of excessive force, including officer involved shootings.

And part of the problem is that there’s incomplete reporting of officer involved shootings, let alone deaths. The FBI stats are incomplete in this area.

First step in figuring out how bad things truly are? Require all law enforcement to report all in-field firearm discharges and situation reports.

When we start talking about numbers in this context, I think about the incidents where the Official Version was that the victim ‘went for my gun’, or the cop ‘feared for his life’, but where video shows a completely different story. Walter Scott was just another guy who made the mistake of gong for the cops gun, till the video of his murderer shooting him in the back as he ran away surfaced. How many of those incidents STILL occur without being revealed?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:19:10am

re: #60 451_Montag

The thing that gets me about these militant\freeman\libertarian types is that they think after the revolution they will be sitting at the top table, doing all that being in chargey-type stuff.

Imagine if there was a military coup in the states. Do they really think that after that, the military as a whole is going to lay guns down at their feet and swear loyalty to their vision of a “New ‘Murika”?

All they will have done is swap an elected government for one that is a bit happier with the old bang sticks and aren’t afraid to use it.

Well, there’s the ones that lack the imagination to extrapolate that far into the future, the ones vain enough to imagine that they’ll win or just woo over the military with their rectitude, and the ones that are deeply excited at the prospect of all the retaliatory violence that will be dished out against anybody that objects.

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451_Montag  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:19:11am

re: #69 Tigger2

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Is it “The right wing are horrible people” or “Horrible people are right wing”?

Which comes first? The blackened dead soul or the politics?

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:19:59am

I just realized if I sat here and typed all the bad things the insane assholes on the right think are going to happen I would be here a fucking week. It’s like a blanky, a warm soft blanket that gives them solace. They carry it everywhere. They are abject cowards. Punks. Children of Rush Limbaugh and other flaming ass wipes who burrow into their pea brains and plant seeds of stupid. Fear is the drink and loathing the meal and they can never get enough. And tonight we get to witness the plank of idiots who represent these bacteria.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:20:01am
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:20:41am

re: #81 451_Montag

Is it “The right wing are horrible people” or “Horrible people are right wing”?

Which comes first? The blackened dead soul or the politics?

I don’t think you can be a right winger without being horrible. You can be horrible and not a right winger.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:22:19am

re: #80 The Ghost of a Flea

Well, there’s the ones that lack the imagination to extrapolate that far into the future, the ones vain enough to imagine that they’ll win or just woo over the military with their rectitude, and the ones that are deeply excited at the prospect of all the retaliatory violence that will be dished out against anybody that objects.

Another strain easily found on the patriot/threeper sites, are those who do not expect to live through their cherished CW2/RevWarIII scenarios. Suicide by CosPlay.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:22:20am

re: #44 Barefoot Grin

When I was living in south-central Indiana a friend told me about some guys he worked with who refused to drive on IN-37 or any other highway with certain reflective tags on the backs of official signage. He explained their belief that these were guidance devices for UN forces.

That reminds me of someone who thought the barriers to on ramps on interstates were, instead of keeping people off highways in treacherous conditions, a method of keeping people contained from those invisible UN forces.

That ended that relationship. I don’t care how much I like someone…if you’re nuts, you’re not someone I want to be friends with.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:23:32am

re: #60 451_Montag

The thing that gets me about these militant\freeman\libertarian types is that they think after the revolution they will be sitting at the top table, doing all that being in chargey-type stuff.

Imagine if there was a military coup in the states. Do they really think that after that, the military as a whole is going to lay guns down at their feet and swear loyalty to their vision of a “New ‘Murika”?

All they will have done is swap an elected government for one that is a bit happier with the old bang sticks and aren’t afraid to use it.

The Military isn’t run like a democracy. These morons never seem to understand that.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:23:55am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:26:30am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:26:37am

re: #87 GlutenFreeJesus

The Military isn’t run like a democracy. These morons never seem to understand that.

In their minds, the military is composed entirely of people like them, just as in their minds the Government is some alien force, and ‘The People’ all agree with them.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:27:01am

re: #83 Kragar

“Rand Throws A Libertariantrum”

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Lidane  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:27:48am

Mental health break from the stupid. If you have not watched this, you should:

Adele Carpool Karaoke

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:28:06am

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

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Because everyone should be so afraid of us that we can violate their territorial waters with impunity!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:28:19am

re: #91 jaunte

“Rand Throws A Libertariantrum”

Libertantrum?

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:28:51am

re: #94 Blind Frog Belly White

Piazzola and Paul, together at last.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:28:53am
Hodges had a follow-up question: “If Obama does make a full-out move and if a military coup is in the cards, do you think that Obama will resort to the use of UN troops, specifically the Russians and the Chinese, to subjugate Americans and put down any rebellion?”

Hey were just asking questions here

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:30:33am

Astor Piazzolla - Libertango
Astor Piazzolla - Libertango

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:32:38am

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

This morning I was taking my son to the dentist and happened to be following a pick-up with two “InfoWars” bumper stickers.

Sort of the ALL CAPS version of bumper stickers. WE AREN’T JUST A LITTLE BIT CRAZY…WE’RE FULL BLOWN NUTS.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:32:46am
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Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:32:58am

Just posted a follow-up to the post that you all found so interesting yesterday - and thanks again for all the kind words & encouragement.

Unfortunately, there’s some very Bad News brewing about Trump. At least for the GOPe. The poll numbers show that rather than snapping the GOP base back into reality, they’ve followed Trump’s lead, and doubled-down on their support for him.

This is what a GOP populist uprising looks like. The know-nothings ain’t gonna go quietly this time.

So I cast about for an appropriate metaphor to describe what’s happening, and due to my core nerdiness and chance viewing of X-Men: First Class, settled on supervillain Sebastian Shaw. It’s a page now, if you wanna fisk my thinking on this.

Sebastian Shaw is one of the more interesting villians, because you can’t simply punch him into submission. You can’t use any of the traditional methods of defeating a villain, because he just laughs and then turns your own energy against you.

It’s supervillain aikido, and the GOP has never faced anything remotely like this in its existence.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:33:51am
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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:33:53am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:34:00am

re: #81 451_Montag

Theoretically, there exists a conservative governance style that emphasizes efficiency of bureaucracy and individual liberty that would be…not actively malicious. “Goodness” couldn’t be discerned without more detail.

The thing is, that’s not what we have in the US. What we have is a “conservatism” that is about preservation of the status quo, even when it’s harmful to big groups of people. Part of this is driven by profit, part of this is driven by attempts to codify cultural norms and theology as law of the land. In both cases, “conservatism” has become synonymous with the allocation of power (including but not exclusively money and capital) to small groups, and limiting franchise.

Basically…precede forward from the power/money/political implications of the 3/5s Compromise.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:34:32am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

Another war should fix this right up.

/

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:34:41am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

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The stupid in that tweet just burns.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:34:53am

Humiliating Hypotheticals.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:36:47am

What if we invaded a whole country, killed thousands, spent trillions, and didn’t find any WMDs?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:36:51am
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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:37:54am
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Emoprog Refugee  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:38:10am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

Do you think Iran would have acted so tough if they were Russian sailors? Our country was humiliated.

Absolutely, The Donald! Putin would have had them released in 20 hrs, not the 22 or whatever that wimpy Kerry took! How humiliating!
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smh.
Again, what the hell world do wingnuts inhabit? It’s clearly very different from the one I’m in.

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No Depression  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:39:30am

re: #66 Barefoot Grin

This morning I was taking my son to the dentist and happened to be following a pick-up with two “InfoWars” bumper stickers. I explained to him the mindset of the Alex Jones set and told him about the influx of “free staters” supposedly moving to New Hampshire. While I was waiting for him, I picked up the local newspaper only to read about a fire in an old church—turns out it had been purchased by a free stater who claimed to have started a new church. He lived there and I don’t think he had a congregation, so he had to pay taxes on it. Of course, he refused, claiming the building was a religious institution, and was just about to get evicted. I would suspect arson, but he died in the fire. Anyway, his fellow free staters apparently liked to film themselves harassing the local tax assessor and putting their antics on youtube. Patriots, donchaknow.

That reminds me of a pick-up I saw in my area: it had an InfoWars bumper sticker on it and a stick figure family in which every member was holding an AR-15. I couldn’t decide which was worse: that this nutjob had guns or that he had kids.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:40:15am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:40:19am

re: #107 jaunte

What if we invaded a whole country, killed thousands, spent trillions, and didn’t find any WMDs?

If there is a GOP president: “Whoops

If there is a Dem president: “IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:42:22am

re: #112 Kragar

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HitlerTrumpjugend.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:42:34am

re: #67 Kragar

I am not wearing anything under my jacket either.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:45:32am

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

He humiliates himself every time he opens his pie hole. Gives WHOLE new meaning to the phrase Ugly American

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:46:58am

How can they not find a venue?
They have the entire bird sanctuary!

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EPR-radar  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:47:42am

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

Theoretically, there exists a conservative governance style that emphasizes efficiency of bureaucracy and individual liberty that would be…not actively malicious. “Goodness” couldn’t be discerned without a more detail.

The thing is, that’s not what we have in the US. What we have is a “conservatism” that is about preservation of the status quo, even when it’s harmful to big groups of people. Part of this is driven by profit, part of this is driven by attempts to codify cultural norms and theology as law of the land. In both cases, “conservatism” has become synonymous with the allocation of power (including but not exclusively money and capital) to small groups, and limiting franchise.

Basically…precede forward from the power/money/political implications of the 3/5s Compromise.

Conservative free market ideology (if not completely insane) can be a good antidote in a nation ruled by communist ideologues.

It’s difficult to see any real use for it in a country (like the US) which is already feral-capitalist.

In the US ‘free markets uber alles’ is pretty much already the centrist position. That means that when US RWNJs gallop off to the hard right at full speed, their resulting starting point is the formation of an aristocracy of wealth, with assorted culture war bullshit to distract from this goal.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:48:22am

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

His ego is just as big as Trump’s

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And his twenty retweets prove what a dynamo of influence he truly is. (Much like Rage Furby with his usual 10 back when he was a FORCE on Twitter.)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:49:47am

Dear Stanley Tools,

FFS, 9/11 aside, not all of us Muslims are adept at using box cutters. D’ya think maybe just maybe you could make the blades easier to change? I almost sliced & diced my fingers half a dozen times and it took me 15 frigging minutes to get the new blade properly seated and the cover screwed back on.

End rant. //

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:53:40am

re: #120 CuriousLurker

Dear Stanley Tools,

FFS, 9/11 aside, not all of us Muslims are adept at using box cutters. D’ya think maybe just maybe you could make the blades easier to change? I almost sliced & diced my fingers half a dozen times and it took me 15 frigging minutes to get the new blade properly seated and the cover screwed back on.

End rant. //

I have a very nice box cutter that needs no tools to change the blades (which are stored inside). I just checked— it’s a Stanley.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:02:39pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How can they not find a venue?
They have the entire bird sanctuary!

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Can’t let locals inside the security perimeter—might steal the coffee creamer.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:04:50pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

I have a very nice box cutter that needs no tools to change the blades (which are stored inside). I just checked— it’s a Stanley.

Guess it’s time I got myself a new one. I have one of those old heavy-duty all metal ones. They last forever but, sheesh. Me & sharp things, uh-uh not good.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:07:33pm

re: #122 Decatur Deb

Can’t let locals inside the security perimeter—might steal the coffee creamer.

Or make off with the underwear.

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calochortus  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:14:22pm

re: #120 CuriousLurker

Dear Stanley Tools,

FFS, 9/11 aside, not all of us Muslims are adept at using box cutters. D’ya think maybe just maybe you could make the blades easier to change? I almost sliced & diced my fingers half a dozen times and it took me 15 frigging minutes to get the new blade properly seated and the cover screwed back on.

End rant. //

My old school metal Stanley box cutter has a little teeny button at the top left, right by the blade. When you fully extend the blade and push in the little button, you can then just pull the blade out. You stick in a new blade, pushing the button until it is seated (little notches on top of the blade are within the body) and then just retract it as normal. If it doesn’t go in, you haven’t done it right. If you handle the blades from the top (non-sharp) side, you shouldn’t cut yourself.

You may have a different model, but do look for the button.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:25:26pm

re: #125 calochortus

My old school metal Stanley box cutter has a little teeny button at the top left, right by the blade. When you fully extend the blade and push in the little button, you can then just pull the blade out. You stick in a new blade, pushing the button until it is seated (little notches on top of the blade are within the body) and then just retract it as normal. If it doesn’t go in, you haven’t done it right. If you handle the blades from the top (non-sharp) side, you shouldn’t cut yourself.

You may have a different model, but do look for the button.

You described my good one except the button is at the back of the handle, on the side. Oh, mine’s different, because the whole thing rotates open, revealing the stored blades and the replaceable blade. We call it ‘the banana’ because it’s yellow. It has no screw.

I also have the one with the screw (I dug it out f the back where the stuff I never use is). It’s gray, and it’s also a Stanley.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:27:27pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth on twitter right now:

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The lowly Cleveland Browns seemed to have gotten their man in Hue Jackson. Let’s hope he can get something good out of that franchise. All the sports talking heads made him seem to be the number one coaching prospect this year and many said he would never go to the Browns. So, something happened that he took the job.

One thing he did ask for though. No more Johnny Football Manziel in a Brown’s uniform. Looks like Johnny may have screwed himself out of a job as it is doubtful anyone else would take a chance on him.

And, it is strange for a former offensive coach from Cincinnati to stay in the AFC North.

Since I’ve followed the Brownies from my childhood days I just can’t give up on them. I’m a lifer. I’m also realistic. I don’t live and die with a sports team. Would I like to see then be more successful? Yes.

But it is only a game, and it pales in comparison to the game we follow here at LGF…politics. That is a true life and death thing and this country is in a world of hurt right now with its politics.

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WCBadger  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:31:48pm

Elmer needs to lose weight.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:38:38pm

re: #99 The Vicious Babushka

Didn’t Turkey shoot down a Russian jet?

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:08:12pm

re: #112 Kragar

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I swear the kid on the right is one of the girls in the ‘Respect Authority’ video.

Same super-clumsy lyrical phrasing, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:34:24pm

re: #69 Tigger2

The father of a boy killed at #SandyHook gets death threats from people (gun nuts) who say the shooting was a hoax

I have proof that it was the FBI, behind both the threats and the shooting.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:35:20pm

re: #89 The Vicious Babushka

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Trump should not give a shit about those sailors: only losers let themselves get captured…


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