Overnight Jam: Sara Watkins, Sarah Jarosz, Aoife O’Donovan: “Crossing Muddy Waters”

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Here’s another excellent music video to hold us over until morning, with three immensely talented women joining forces.

iTunes: itun.es
7” vinyl available now: bit.ly

Music video by Sara Watkins, Sarah Jarosz, Aoife O’Donovan performing Crossing Muddy Waters. (C) 2015 I’m With Her, LLC. Under exclusive license to Sugar Hill Records, A Welk Music Group Company.

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512 comments

1
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 27, 2016 • 9:50:09pm

Okay, I think we’ve officially broken the record for Most Threads in a Single Day…

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 9:52:16pm

Cool, I got a retweet and a like from Becca Stevens for my Tiny Desk Concert tweet from the thread for her here. :)

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 27, 2016 • 9:52:41pm
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Jenner7  Jan 27, 2016 • 9:53:52pm

Ugh.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 27, 2016 • 9:53:53pm
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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 9:58:32pm

re: #3 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Always liked that song.

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:02:08pm

File under: I have no clue how the Federal budget works, but that doesn’t stop me from having strong opinions about it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:02:26pm

re: #6 Tigger2

Always liked that song.

Apocalypse Now was my intro to that song and it blew me completely away in the theater as a kid.

One of the best matches of film and music I have ever seen and heard.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:03:20pm

I’m out. See you all tomorrow.

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:05:19pm
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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:08:45pm

re: #8 Aunty Entity Dragon

Apocalypse Now was my intro to that song and it blew me completely away in the theater as a kid.

One of the best matches of film and music I have ever seen and heard.

The Doors were awesome.

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:10:48pm

Current Project

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:13:24pm

The music I most associate with Apocalypse Now is the Adagio for Strings. One of the most devastatingly powerful scenes I have ever seen on film:

Platoon Music Video - Adagio for Strings

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:14:35pm

re: #4 Jenner7

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Ugh.

Typical teabagging Republican with the “I got mine and Fuck You” mentality. I deal with folks like this every day…

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:15:04pm

re: #13 allegro

The music I most associate with Apocalypse Now is the Adagio for Strings. One of the most devastatingly powerful scenes I have ever seen on film:

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Video

Except it’s from a different movie. LOL Both Nam war movies though so there’s that.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:17:06pm
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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:19:35pm

Daily dose…

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:22:16pm

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:25:23pm

re: #17 ausador

Daily dose…

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If only she’d had a gun…. Gun free streets… Ill eagle with a fast and furious Obama gun… right?

Too soon?

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TedStriker  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:25:42pm

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

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To whoever did that:

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:26:11pm

New icon.

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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:28:12pm

Might be old news on here, I slept for a while.

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:31:48pm

re: #22 Tigger2

That’s what I was waiting for. I’m giving up for the night!

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WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:35:06pm

Allegro, did you see my meatball thing downstairs?
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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:35:16pm

re: #17 ausador

Daily dose…

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I just now noticed that “why ask” was you. lol

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:38:09pm

re: #24 WhatEVs

I did. Thank you! I’m gonna make those tomorrow to go with my spaghetti sauce cooked in the crock pot experiment I tried today. Sauce came out perfect!

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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:40:58pm

re: #26 allegro

I did. Thank you! I’m gonna make those tomorrow to go with my spaghetti sauce cooked in the crock pot experiment I tried today. Sauce came out perfect!

This girl I knew used to make meatballs with grape jelly and chili sauce. She would put tooth picks in them and serve by themselves.

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:43:19pm

I always just used my meatloaf recipe and made balls instead. Fry and serve in your favorite marinara.

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:48:13pm

re: #22 Tigger2

Feel a little sorry for Duane Ehmer, the horse guy, reporters who talked with him at the refuge say he is kinda “simple.”

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:49:01pm

re: #28 William Lewis

I always just used my meatloaf recipe and made balls instead. Fry and serve in your favorite marinara.

I’ve tried that but was never pleased with the results. I was gonna try to bake them instead to see if they were any better but then I remembered that LGF is like the definitive answer to pretty much anything and knew someone would turn me on to a better meatball. :D

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:50:51pm

re: #27 Tigger2

This girl I knew used to make meatballs with brown sugar and chili sauce.

That actually sounds pretty good for an appetizer. (Filing away in memory recipe box.)

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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:52:30pm

re: #31 allegro

That actually sounds pretty good for an appetizer. (Filing away in memory recipe box.)

It was grape jelly instead of brown sugar.

allrecipes.com

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:53:31pm

re: #32 Tigger2

It was grape jelly instead of brown sugar.

Ohhh yeah, that I’ve had but usually with the little smokey things.

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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:54:24pm

re: #33 allegro

Ohhh yeah, that I’ve had but usually with the little smokey things.

I could sit and eat a whole pot of them.

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:55:20pm

re: #34 Tigger2

I could sit and eat a whole pot of them.

You’d have to fight me for them.

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:55:53pm

Twitter is slowly turning into Stormfront, Trump has these people crawling out of the woodwork in droves. Arggh….

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:58:30pm

Fuck, now I want swedish meatballs

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:59:33pm

re: #37 Kragar

Fuck, now I want swedish meatballs

Gonna be a loooong day for you tomorrow, ain’t it.

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 10:59:54pm

Can you hide a tweet with a spoiler?
Never tried it…

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:01:16pm

re: #39 ausador

Can you hide a tweet with a spoiler?
Never tried it…

Heh, can you imagine saying that a decade ago?

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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:01:45pm

How do you do private comment

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WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:03:12pm

Welp, bedtime. Night all!

Allegro, let me know what you thought of them.

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allegro  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:04:02pm

re: #42 WhatEVs

Welp, bedtime. Night all!

Allegro, let me know what you thought of them.

I will! Thanks again!

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:06:10pm

re: #38 allegro

Gonna be a loooong day for you tomorrow, ain’t it.

Yup, and on into Friday. I won’t get home till at least noon and I’ll be out of it for a few hours past that. Might go to an all you can eat Chinese place that night.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:06:28pm

re: #39 ausador

Can you hide a tweet with a spoiler?
Never tried it…

Yes, you should be able to. Just stick it between the spoiler tags.

re: #41 Tigger2

How do you do private comment

The question mark below the comment box answers all. (Or: [ private] [ /private] with no spaces.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:07:02pm

re: #44 Kragar

Yup, and on into Friday. I won’t get home till at least noon and I’ll be out of it for a few hours past that. Might go to an all you can eat Chinese place that night.

At least it’s not because of food poisoning?

That’s how mr. klys did his last clear liquids diet.

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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:08:18pm

re: #45 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yes, you should be able to. Just stick it between the spoiler tags.

The question mark below the comment box answers all. (Or: [ private] [ /private] with no spaces.)

ok thanks

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Tigger2  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:15:26pm
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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:24:08pm

Great, now i have racist/anti-semitic holocaust deniers in my mentions.
Report, block, report, block, etc…

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TedStriker  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:24:08pm

re: #48 Tigger2

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What a fucking moron.

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Kragar  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:39:54pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:41:11pm

re: #48 Tigger2

Patrick’s friend though told us Jason was tricked, told he could walk away freely, then immediately arrested.

Because he assumed that white guys in cowboy hats with guns can flout the law and walk away unscathed.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:42:16pm

re: #48 Tigger2

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Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false!

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:43:30pm

More of Bernie’s vaunted integrity…

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ausador  Jan 27, 2016 • 11:57:08pm

Assume this is citing same research I saw ealier today that said 62% of Trump’s retweets were of people who followed white supremacists.

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ausador  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:13:36am

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:25:58am

re: #55 ausador

Thanos Paged that.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:28:25am
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:32:09am

That’s a happy song ね。

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:43:43am

re: #55 ausador

Assume this is citing same research I saw earlier today that said 62% of Trump’s retweets were of people who followed white supremacists.

I see a silver lining in this cloud: I do not believe that the majority of Americans are white supremacists and should Trump get the GOP nomination, he would not be able to get a majority of votes in the general election.

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thecommodore  Jan 28, 2016 • 1:08:30am

re: #3 Aunty Entity Dragon

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They wish.

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ausador  Jan 28, 2016 • 1:19:03am

So Fry says there are only five people left on the refuge besides himself. Tweet is out of date since Patrick is under arrest now, but like his 2nd amendment “badge.”

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20Hz  Jan 28, 2016 • 1:22:11am

re: #62 ausador

So Fry says there are only five people left on the refuge besides himself. This is supposedly the current leader, nice 2nd amendment “badge” he’s got there.

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Jason Patrick was arrested earlier today.

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ausador  Jan 28, 2016 • 1:26:48am

re: #63 20Hz

Yeah, my post already updated, name finally rang a bell in my tired brain.

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Sophist: Make America Grate Again  Jan 28, 2016 • 2:37:10am

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

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Too bad “Hateful 8” was already taken…

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Nojay UK  Jan 28, 2016 • 3:00:34am

re: #62 ausador

Is it a requirement of the physical to become a militia member in the US that your waist measurement must be at least 80% or more of your standing height?

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Insanity  Jan 28, 2016 • 3:27:12am

re: #66 Nojay UK

Is it a requirement of the physical to become a militant in the US that your waist measurement must be at least 80% or more of your standing height?

Maybe he’s pregnant with ignorance.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 3:50:05am

There’s a beer drinking requirement tied to a couch sitting standard time.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 4:08:57am

‘Morning all. Sounds like the stoner militia is still alive, though probably regretting their beach party.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 28, 2016 • 4:24:28am

re: #58 freetoken

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おかしなこいびとか。。。。

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 28, 2016 • 4:44:45am

re: #7 ausador

“…part of me feels like he does the National Debt on purpose…”

Are we sure the Wonkette didn’t write that line?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:01:43am

re: #71 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

“…part of me feels like he does the National Debt on purpose…”

Are we sure the Wonkette didn’t write that line?

Yeah, it seems like he would first up the fluoride content of the nation’s water supplies.

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Kent Dorfman  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:05:16am

re: #27 Tigger2

This girl I knew used to make meatballs with grape jelly and chili sauce. She would put tooth picks in them and serve by themselves.

Oh noes, I feel a song coming on.
I know a girl who don’t use jelly, she uses vaseline.
The Flaming Lips - She Don’t Use Jelly [Official Music Video]

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:11:40am

re: #62 ausador

So Fry says there are only five people left on the refuge besides himself. Tweet is out of date since Patrick is under arrest now, but like his 2nd amendment “badge.”

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If he’s convicted of the felony he’s charged with he can toss that badge in the trash.

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:19:14am
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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:28:02am

re: #62 ausador

So Fry says there are only five people left on the refuge besides himself. Tweet is out of date since Patrick is under arrest now, but like his 2nd amendment “badge.”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:29:47am

re: #76 Tigger2

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19 degrees there, rain forecast.

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:32:34am

re: #77 Decatur Deb

19 degrees there, rain forecast.

Sure glad I’m not there.

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:33:55am
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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:37:06am

Packed my bag last night. Tomorrow, I’m heading for Union Station in downtown LA and I’m going to hop on Amtrak’s Coast Starlight to ride to Oakland. Then, I’ll get on BART to go to downtown San Francisco, spending the weekend at the Sir Francis Drake to celebrate my 60th birthday. Monday, I get back on the train to go home…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:39:07am

re: #80 Joe Bacon

Packed my bag last night. Tomorrow, I’m heading for Union Station in downtown LA and I’m going to hop on Amtrak’s Coast Starlight to ride to Oakland. Then, I’ll get on BART to go to downtown San Francisco, spending the weekend at the Sir Francis Drake to celebrate my 60th birthday. Monday, I get back on the train to go home…

Well, sir, happy birthday! My 60th birthday just so happens to be today. I’m enjoying a comfortable stay in the Cameron Highlands of Malaysia, where it is cloudy and about 70 degrees outside.

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:39:46am

re: #80 Joe Bacon

Packed my bag last night. Tomorrow, I’m heading for Union Station in downtown LA and I’m going to hop on Amtrak’s Coast Starlight to ride to Oakland. Then, I’ll get on BART to go to downtown San Francisco, spending the weekend at the Sir Francis Drake to celebrate my 60th birthday. Monday, I get back on the train to go home…

Happy Birthday and have fun.

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:40:40am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, sir, happy birthday! My 60th birthday just so happens to be today. I’m enjoying a comfortable stay in the Cameron Highlands of Malaysia, where it is cloudy and about 70 degrees outside.

Happy Birthday

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:42:30am

re: #80 Joe Bacon

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You punks stay off my lawn.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:43:40am

re: #83 Tigger2

Happy Birthday

Thx

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:44:09am

re: #84 Decatur Deb

You punks stay off my lawn.

Check your tree for TP decorations.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:54:49am

INTRODUCING FAT BARBIE

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:57:48am

re: #65 Sophist: Make America Grate Again

Too bad “Hateful 8” was already taken…

Refuge Dogs is also acceptable alternative.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:59:14am

re: #88 lawhawk

Refuge Dogs is also acceptable alternative.

Prairie Homeless Companions.

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lizardofid  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:13:42am

re: #80 Joe Bacon

Packed my bag last night. Tomorrow, I’m heading for Union Station in downtown LA and I’m going to hop on Amtrak’s Coast Starlight to ride to Oakland. Then, I’ll get on BART to go to downtown San Francisco, spending the weekend at the Sir Francis Drake to celebrate my 60th birthday. Monday, I get back on the train to go home…

Very envious, enjoy!

Oh, and Happy Birthday!

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:13:51am

re: #27 Tigger2

This girl I knew used to make meatballs with grape jelly and chili sauce. She would put tooth picks in them and serve by themselves.

The recipe my wife uses is grape jelly and cocktail sauce.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:14:35am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, sir, happy birthday! My 60th birthday just so happens to be today. I’m enjoying a comfortable stay in the Cameron Highlands of Malaysia, where it is cloudy and about 70 degrees outside.

Have a GREAT Day!!!!

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:16:03am
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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:16:08am

Thanks for all the birthday wishes! Props to all of you!

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:16:31am

re: #94 Joe Bacon

Thanks for all the birthday wishes! Props to all of you!

Happy belated?

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:17:21am

re: #94 Joe Bacon

Thanks for all the birthday wishes! Props to all of you!

re: #95 darthstar

Happy belated?

Nope…still your day…Happy birthday Bacon!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:18:02am

Wingnuts are still spamming that Liesel Von Sharpp audio, but seem to have totally forgotten all about CMP and Planned Parenthood.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:19:53am

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

Now that is funny.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:20:06am

re: #92 Joe Bacon

Have a GREAT Day!!!!

Thanks, though it’s nearly over, thanks to the time zone difference.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:52am

Watch Mike Huckabee Cover Adele in a Campaign Ad

Oh yes, it’s a melange of awkwardness and crazy. Comparable to Fiorina’s Demon Sheep ad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:56am

Welp, Richard Dawkins has joined Milo in the He Man Woman Haters Tree House

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:28:47am

re: #91 Belafon

The recipe my wife uses is grape jelly and cocktail sauce.

We often take it to potlucks, named it for a co-worker. Think it was her old college dorm-room recipe.

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:29:24am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, sir, happy birthday! My 60th birthday just so happens to be today. I’m enjoying a comfortable stay in the Cameron Highlands of Malaysia, where it is cloudy and about 70 degrees outside.

Happy Wheat-dogghazi-day too!

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:52am

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Lindy West is letting him have it. She’s awesome.

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sagehen  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:57am

re: #80 Joe Bacon

Packed my bag last night. Tomorrow, I’m heading for Union Station in downtown LA and I’m going to hop on Amtrak’s Coast Starlight to ride to Oakland. Then, I’ll get on BART to go to downtown San Francisco, spending the weekend at the Sir Francis Drake to celebrate my 60th birthday. Monday, I get back on the train to go home…

What/where will you be eating?

And you’ll bring back enough Ghirardelli for all of us, yes?

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:32:21am
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Snarknado!  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:35:39am

Joe Bacon and Wheatdogg, happy birthday!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:37:50am

re: #104 SoundGuy 2016

Lindy West is letting him have it. She’s awesome.

Yes, she is great.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:40:55am

Somebody on the Lawrence ODonnell show last night had a good description of the GOP debates. He (I couldn’t see the screen so I didn’t get his name) said the GOP debates were about each candidate trying to dominate the other candidates instead of promoting ideas, and Trump’s threat of boycotting the next debate is his way of trying to dominate Fox

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:44:25am

Good guy with a gun?
We’ll have to wait and see.

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lizardofid  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:45:04am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks, though it’s nearly over, thanks to the time zone difference.

Well do enjoy the remainder of it WD!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:46:01am

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

Good guy with a gun?
We’ll have to wait and see.

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Awful.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:47:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:51:01am

re: #109 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Somebody on the Lawrence ODonnell show last night had a good description of the GOP debates. He (I couldn’t see the screen so I didn’t get his name) said the GOP debates were about each candidate trying to dominate the other candidates instead of promoting ideas, and Trump’s threat of boycotting the next debate is his way of trying to dominate Fox

How can we dominate the world if our candidate cannot dominate the GOP debates?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:52:00am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

Yeah, the downside of my birthday for the past 30 years.

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:52:27am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

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Had just got home from work and laid down on the couch to watch TV, turned on the news just in time to see it take off. It took a while for it to sink into my brain to what just happened.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:54:27am

re: #115 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah, the downside of my birthday for the past 30 years.

Happy Bday, nonetheless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:55:02am

re: #116 Tigger2

Had just got home from work and laid down on the couch to watch TV turned on the news just in time to see it take off. It took a while for it to sink in to just what happened.

That was one of those “I remember exactly where I was” moments when I heard the news, working at the Athletic Department of Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, had just come down the stairs from my upstairs office and the secretary informed me.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:56:12am

re: #116 Tigger2

Had just got home from work and laid down on the couch to watch TV turned on the news just in time to see it take off. It took a while for it to sink in to what happened.

I was in Junior High. Most of the school was in the library watching it live on numerous TVs placed throughout the library. It was surreal.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:58:28am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I was here: 9.356694, -79.871277, the houses weren’t there and then Colon Airport was barely functioning.
Living in a G.P. Small & over self medicating with Benadryl
Today would also have been my dad’s 80th birthday

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:59:50am

re: #119 Dr. Matt

I was in Junior High. Most of the school was in the library watching it live on numerous TVs placed throughout the library. It was surreal.

I was working for a furniture store at the time and was driving back from a service call, listening to the launch on the radio. The extended silence from Mission Control after the explosion was wrenching.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:01:06am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

re: #80 Joe Bacon

Happy Birthday!!!!

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:03:05am

Rude Pundit’s story about, “where were you during the Challenger explosion”, is pretty freakn depression:

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:03:52am

re: #119 Dr. Matt

I was in Junior High. Most of the school was in the library watching it live on numerous TVs placed throughout the library. It was surreal.

I was sitting in my First Grade classroom with all the other students watching on tv that day. Man…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:06:41am

I was driving home after class. My 4-year-old daughter was in the car with me (for some reason I took her to class with me instead of leaving her at the daycare). We heard the launch on the radio.

She now says it’s one of her earliest memories.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:08:37am

re: #4 Jenner7

Man, I almost broke my brain trying to follow that person’s logic.

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Snarknado!  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:12:26am

I was at home, and heard it annouced over the radio. A “this can’t be happening” moment.

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ipsos  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:12:29am

I know I should just pony up and subscribe already, yes…but in the meantime, between the “Before You Go” Spoutable ad that keeps popping up when I’m not, in fact, even going, and the new “While Your Content Is Loading” thing that keeps me from seeing LGF for 30 seconds while it has very much already loaded…ugh. I hope they’re at least bringing you some decent revenue, Charles!

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:14:12am

re: #21 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

Art of War 2 - The Crafts of War by Sun Tzu

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:14:31am

re: #121 makeitstop

I was working for a furniture store at the time and was driving back from a service call, listening to the launch on the radio. The extended silence from Mission Control after the explosion was wrenching.

I was working 2nd shift for the county government central data processing. I had just gotten up and was watching before getting ready to head downtown for work.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:16:04am

6th grade. Lunch room. Had tvs carted in so everyone could watch. Remember like it was yesterday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:17:58am

re: #126 Romantic Heretic

Man, I almost broke my brain trying to follow that person’s logic.

Jim Halpert, the character from The Office in Benghazi?

Yes, the same fellow plays in the 13 hours, but what has that got to do with the price of copier paper?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:20:31am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I was at work, someone walked in saying they had heard that the shuttle exploded-I jury-rigged an antenna to the VCR in our AV room to catch the replay. Awful.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:21:19am

re: #110 FormerDirtDart

More human sacrifices for the American faith.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:22:32am

re: #134 Romantic Heretic

More human sacrifices for the American faith.

Someday, good guys with guns will overthrow a tyrannical usurper and we we realize that it was all worth it…

/

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:25:33am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Someday, good guys with guns will overthrow a tyrannical usurper and we we realize that it was all worth it…

/

In the meantime Khorne is having a good laugh.

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:27:28am
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:29:22am

re: #137 Tigger2

Only if the FBI gets to change their names to Captain Runaway.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:34:31am

You just know someone is going to complain about the white girl getting the big ass

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:36:31am

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

You just know someone is going to complain about the white girl getting the big ass

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I think the new body types come in all colors.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:36:53am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are still spamming that Liesel Von Sharpp audio, but seem to have totally forgotten all about CMP and Planned Parenthood.

Unfortunately, they are of the mind of Never Forget! Never Surrender!

Unlike Y’all Qaeda. ;-)

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:37:06am

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

Where is Goth Barbie?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:39:47am

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:39:48am

re: #142 Dr. Matt

Where is Goth Barbie?

In rehab.//

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:41:17am

re: #144 nines09

In rehab.

With heroin chic Barbie.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:42:05am

re: #142 Dr. Matt

Where is Goth Barbie?

Too moody to come out right now.

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teleskiguy  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:45:51am

Ski shop is quite slow right now.

jaunte says I should get this poster.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:46:43am

The new Michelle Barbie. The eyes follow you as it incoherently screams bible passages.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:47:05am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:47:48am

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

They’re still missing WalMart scooter-riding Barbie.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:48:22am

re: #80 Joe Bacon

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You both say it’s your birthday…so Happy Birthday to you!

Crossed that goal a little over a year and a half ago…glad to have made it considering I lost a few friends along the way.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:48:54am

re: #150 Eric The Fruit Bat

They’re still missing WalMart scooter-riding Barbie.

Who has to handle every last freaking piece of fruit in produce.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:49:27am

re: #152 nines09

Who has to handle every last freaking piece of fruit in produce.

and leave thumb indentations in the avocados

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:50:05am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and leave thumb indentations in the avocados

“How else would you know they were good?”

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:51:13am

re: #97 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are still spamming that Liesel Von Sharpp audio, but seem to have totally forgotten all about CMP and Planned Parenthood.

So much to be outraged about…not enough time.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:51:21am

re: #150 Eric The Fruit Bat

They’re still missing WalMart scooter-riding Barbie.

barbiesofwalmart.com

Not real.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:52:49am

The Bundy ranch bridge sniper, Eric Parker, was reported at the Malhuer derp-in. Has he been accounted for?

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:53:32am
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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:55:28am

re: #158 lawhawk

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My nightmare is a 1918 style Spanish Influenza pandemic. Think about that in this enlightened modern age.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:56:19am

To Joe Bacon and Wheatdogg, hoppy, hoppy birthday!

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:05am

Looking like they may get the last few out of Malheur without any shots fired. That’s a good thing.

But the petulant ammosexual movement is out loud and proud.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:07am

re: #159 nines09

My nightmare is a 1918 style Spanish Influenza pandemic. Think about that in this enlightened modern age.

This one’s worse. It’s affect show up in the children of pregnant women.

Having said that, I actually don’t think we’ll have the large scale deaths like the earlier ones. Medically, and disaster preparedness wise, we know a lot more. Part of my CERT training includes working a distribution site for emergency medicine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:47am

re: #161 SoundGuy 2016

Looking like they may get the last few out of Malheur without any shots fired. That’s a good thing.

But the petulant ammosexual movement is out loud and proud.

They have their martyr so they will call it a “tactical victory”.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:56am

re: #159 nines09

My nightmare is a 1918 style Spanish Influenza pandemic. Think about that in this enlightened modern age.

It will be a government conspiracy, or a contrails upgrade gone awry.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:01:00am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They have their martyr so they will call it a “tactical victory”.

From their point of view, better all had been incinerated by drones. The massive beclownment is starting to flow through their media.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:01:32am

re: #159 nines09

My nightmare is a 1918 style Spanish Influenza pandemic. Think about that in this enlightened modern age.

My grandfather died in the 1918 pandemic :(

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:03:45am

re: #158 lawhawk

We must erect a 10,000 ft. mosquito net atop the Great Wall of Trump, and hang a bug zapper every five yards

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:05:35am

re: #162 Belafon

I’ve followed Zika. It’s horrible. Very bad. Cruel. But 50 million worldwide died from the Spanish flu. Things are better now, but airborne viruses are that shadow on humanity since the beginning. There is an avian flu here that is being quietly contained. You do not hear about it. But that is the type that freak out doctors because it can cross species..

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:06:22am

Gawker/Reuters headline:

A few militant stragglers remain at Oregon wildlife refuge — drinking beer, smoking weed and waiting to die

Their need for snacks is more urgent than ever!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:06:52am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

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I was 2 years old.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:07:47am

re: #161 SoundGuy 2016

Looking like they may get the last few out of Malheur without any shots fired. That’s a good thing.

But the petulant ammosexual movement is out loud and proud.

They will spit and bitch for a good year. Hopefully during that time they won’t act out. After about a year they will be back on to new things.

And some of them will have died along the way, because that happens to people that are too wound up and too quick to lash out. I just hope no innocents, family members and law enforcement aren’t hurt or worse in the meantime.

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CleverToad  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:09:04am

re: #142 Dr. Matt

Goth Barbie is in the Monster High line. However, there will probably be a ‘Barbie tattoo and piercing kit’ to be sold as a one of the many separate accessories.

//(or maybe not)

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:09:40am

re: #170 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I was 2 years old.

OMG, you’re like the same age as my son. I feel so old… *sniffle*

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:10:58am

I wonder how long until the white genocide crowd takes on the new Barbies: “She’s not 100% white! They’re killing off the whites!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:11:39am

Trump retweets YET ANOTHER white racist
This guy has previously made racist Photoshops of Michelle Obama

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:11:47am

re: #173 CuriousLurker

OMG, you’re like the same age as my son. I feel so old… *sniffle*

Don’t ground me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:12:30am

“We’re willing to leave,” Fry said. “Out of five people left here, four of us are allowed to leave and one of them, he’s charged with a felony.”

Fry said an FBI negotiator told them the fifth man has a warrant for his arrest for the federal charge of conspiracy to interfere with federal employees. Federal authorities have used that charge to arrest 11 occupiers in the past two days.

Fry identified the man as “Sean,” a possible reference to Sean Anderson, a militiaman from Idaho.

The charge stands in the way of a peaceful end to the occupation, now in its 27th day. The remaining occupiers are trapped at the refuge. Police have established roadblocks and checkpoints at several locations around the refuge headquarters, allowing no one in. Anyone leaving the refuge is stopped, identified and searched.

The man identified as Sean said on the video he has been to the refuge on four occasions for two to three days at a time, returning home between visits.

Fry said others with more involvement in the occupation have been allowed to leave the refuge without charges. He specifically cited one of the bodyguards for Ammon Bundy, a possible reference to Mark McConnell, who released his own video Wednesday describing his role as a driver for Bundy at the time of the highway stop that resulted in one death.

Sean shouldn’t be arrested, Fry said on the video.

“We’re asking them to just drop the charges,” Fry said. “And nobody dies.”

He said those remaining were willing to have their weapons checked by police as they leave to ensure they aren’t stolen.

“We’re being reasonable,” Fry said.

Without the charge being dropped, the remaining occupiers will stay at the refuge, Fry said.

“Are they really going to kill five people for refusing to drop a charge?” Fry asked.

Somebody get this child a clue, or several…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:12:56am

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

Trump retweets YET ANOTHER white racist
This guy has previously made racist Photoshops of Michelle Obama

Is popcorn halal?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:13:07am

re: #171 ObserverArt

They will spit and bitch for a good year. Hopefully during that time they won’t act out. After about a year they will be back on to new things.

And some of them will have died along the way, because that happens to people that are too wound up and too quick to lash out. I just hope no innocents, family members and law enforcement aren’t hurt or worse in the meantime.

We’re at the start of several years of trials and appeals. All through that the RWNJs will be goaded to internal recriminations. There are a lot of groups and some really hate each other.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:13:47am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

From their point of view, better all had been incinerated by drones. The massive beclownment is starting to flow through their media.

Heh, speaking of—a link I received from a friend this morning (NSFW, but funny as hell):
An Oral History of The Arrest And Capture of Ammon Bundy

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:13:49am

re: #173 CuriousLurker

OMG, you’re like the same age as my son. I feel so old… *sniffle*

There…there Curious.

After what you have been through be glad you can say you are getting older and be able to share it with your friends here and everywhere.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:14:51am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Somebody get this child a clue, or several…

Everybody learns Civics, sooner or later.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:16:37am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody get this child a clue, or several…

“You know, Fry, the longer you stay here, the more like it is you will receive the same charge. Is that what you want?”

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:17:54am

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

Thanos posted a page on how Trump’s approvingly tweeting/quoting/retweeting white supremacists, and how some intrepid soul has dug into the backgrounds of the people he’s retweeting - and there’s a disproportionate number of overt white supremacists and racists in his tweeting patterns.

This isn’t a coincidence. Trump’s diving into the sewers of the right wing/GOP to find these dung droppings.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:19:13am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Somebody get this child a clue, or several…

Gah:

The charge stands in the way of a peaceful end to the occupation […]

Um, NO. These douchebags’ sense of entitlement stands in the way.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:22:06am

I say we occupy an IHOP.
Or something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:23:06am

my surprise…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:23:07am

I’d prefer Chock Full ‘o Obama to this…

tworiversco.com

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:24:00am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Defying his own son, Cliven Bundy rallies Oregon militants to ‘fight’ to the end

I do believe that cow has left the barn, so to speak.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:25:34am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my surprise…

Awww shut up you ol’ coot. And get off ‘our’ yard!

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:26:06am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

my surprise…

His son’s not going to get killed. What’s he got to lose?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:26:11am
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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:26:15am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, that makes it so much easier to get Cliven indicted and charged on conspiracy and related charges. Well done!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:26:27am

Still with the daily pressers…jail can not contain the Ammon ego!

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:26:38am

re: #186 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I say we occupy an IHOP.
Or something.

I would totally occupy a wine bistro, sushi joint, or outdoor paella smorgasborg. For liberty and shit.

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:29:02am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still with the daily pressers…jail can not contain the Ammon ego!

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Ammon’s statement - Get me outta here!!!

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:29:34am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my surprise…

A textbook example of “Go get ‘em boys — we’re behind you all the way!”

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:30:02am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my surprise…

Just arrest this seditionous prick - please.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:30:50am

re: #197 De Kolta Chair

A textbook example of “Go get ‘em boys — we’re behind you all the way!”

Way, way behind.
In another state.
Have fun!

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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:31:00am

Fox News FB feed has story on Secdee Patriots. Comments are chock full of ‘he was murdered with hands up!’ and ‘this is what happens when peaceful patriots protest under Socialist government.’

The Wingnut Virus is spreading.

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:31:21am

re: #197 De Kolta Chair

A textbook example of “Go get ‘em boys — we’re behind you all the way!”

‘Let’s you and him fight!’

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:32:33am

GOP misogyny, Ohio style:

Note too that Ohio’s Senate (GOP controlled) also just passed a bill to cease all funding to Planned Parenthood. These GOPers are pushing a misogynistic and dangerous ideology that puts women at risk.

And it’s happening at every level of government across the nation.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:33:43am

re: #202 lawhawk

“Young gal”

He sounds like he’s 90.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:34:26am

re: #184 lawhawk

Thanos posted a page on how Trump’s approvingly tweeting/quoting/retweeting white supremacists, and how some intrepid soul has dug into the backgrounds of the people he’s retweeting - and there’s a disproportionate number of overt white supremacists and racists in his tweeting patterns.

This isn’t a coincidence. Trump’s diving into the sewers of the right wing/GOP to find these dung droppings.

Was Pat Buchanan this blatant when he ran?

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:36:46am

re: #202 lawhawk

GOP misogyny, Ohio style:

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Note too that Ohio’s Senate (GOP controlled) also just passed a bill to cease all funding to Planned Parenthood. These GOPers are pushing a misogynistic and dangerous ideology that puts women at risk.

And it’s happening at every level of government across the nation.

I predict that if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, there will be such a constant, ongoing and violent eruption of open misogyny that even some Republican women will begin to be disgusted.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:37:02am

This has to go down in the hall-of-fame of pathetic TV.

I was looking for video on this because I had heard about it last night. Check out the little pop-up messages throughout.

What a sorry state that this is ‘news.’ and these two massive jerks are in the public eye. I hope FOX starts to lose viewers from all this…even if I doubt that will be the case. Asses on parade. Yuck.

O’Reilly Hysterically Begs Trump to Debate

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:39:24am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still with the daily pressers…jail can not contain the Ammon ego!

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I really wish the media would stop giving these guys the attention they want.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:39:56am

re: #159 nines09

My nightmare is a 1918 style Spanish Influenza pandemic. Think about that in this enlightened modern age.

During some kind of flu scare In 2010, some yokel TV talking heads called my grandmother, then 102 years old, and asked her to talk about the 1918 epidemic. She was probably the only coherent person they could find who could remember it (grandma retained all of her mental faculties right to the last day of her life, which wasn’t till 2013). She told them basically to jump in the river. “You’re trying to spread needless fear and sensationalism because that’s how you make your money. I won’t be part of it. Come back when you have ten thousand people a day dying from this new flu, and we’ll talk about 1918.”
She always said the great flu epidemic was the worst public event of her life, which is saying a hell of a lot. Among other things, her teacher and 5 of her 27 sixth grade classmates died, as did two of her cousins. Her brother was desperately ill for days. He survived but never really did recover. He was always weak after that and died in 1948 at the age of 37.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:40:45am

Oh, BTW, my original reason for dropping by this morning: I brought you guys a lizard, sleeping in a rose…

SQUEEEE!!

I’m pretty sure I will never see a more adorable lizard as long as I live. Found at imgur.com, in case anyone wants the full-size pics (they’re 2764 x 2073 px).

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:41:03am

Meanwhile, up in Maine,

Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) wants state residents to starting shooting drug dealers on sight in order to help alleviate Maine’s heroin crisis.

huffingtonpost.com

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:41:18am

re: #205 jaunte

I predict that if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, there will be such a constant, ongoing and violent eruption of open misogyny that even some Republican women will begin to be disgusted.

One can hope. Alas, it is only a hope. I have little faith.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:42:00am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:42:29am

re: #149 FormerDirtDart

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In that picture, Shaggy looks like a guy I jam with every once in a while.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:42:55am

re: #210 Skip Intro

Meanwhile, up in Maine,

Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) wants state residents to starting shooting drug dealers on sight in order to help alleviate Maine’s heroin crisis.

huffingtonpost.com

Doesn’t that get in the way of his plan to guillotine them? Gov. LePetoname is living up to his reputation as a nut.

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withak  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:42:57am

re: #210 Skip Intro

Meanwhile, up in Maine,

Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) wants state residents to starting shooting drug dealers on sight in order to help alleviate Maine’s heroin crisis.

huffingtonpost.com

What.

The.

Fuck.

Inciting the masses to commit murder. What could possibly go wrong?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:44:08am

re: #210 Skip Intro

Meanwhile, up in Maine,

Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) wants state residents to starting shooting drug dealers on sight in order to help alleviate Maine’s heroin crisis.

huffingtonpost.com

Before they impregnate the white women, or afterwards?

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:44:34am

re: #202 lawhawk

GOP misogyny, Ohio style:

[Embedded content]

Note too that Ohio’s Senate (GOP controlled) also just passed a bill to cease all funding to Planned Parenthood. These GOPers are pushing a misogynistic and dangerous ideology that puts women at risk.

And it’s happening at every level of government across the nation.

Uggh. Many here in Ohio are learning how all this works. But in it is a lesson that I think some are s-l-o-w-l-y beginning to understand. Hopefully this will turn in another election or so.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:46:02am

re: #210 Skip Intro

Meanwhile, up in Maine,

Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) wants state residents to starting shooting drug dealers on sight in order to help alleviate Maine’s heroin crisis.

huffingtonpost.com

We could send some prosecutors from Illinois. We know how to deal with out of control Governors. They serve their terms, then they serve their sentences.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:47:38am

re: #204 WhatEVs

Was Pat Buchanan this blatant when he ran?

In some ways. But most media was short with him. With Trump and the state of media now, they allow him to bellow a lot more than anyone has ever.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:48:13am

re: #214 lawhawk

Doesn’t that get in the way of his plan to guillotine them? Gov. LePetoname is living up to his reputation as a nut.

He could go Saudi and urge the vigilantes to trade their guns for swords.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:48:30am

re: #173 CuriousLurker

OMG, you’re like the same age as my son. I feel so old… *sniffle*

Yeah, my oldest turns 31 in a couple months.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:50:24am

re: #205 jaunte

I predict that if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, there will be such a constant, ongoing and violent eruption of open misogyny that even some Republican women will begin to be disgusted.

I’m still hoping there are conservative women in this 2016 election that are playing along and when they get in the booth, or filling out their ballots at home, etc. they vote for women issues and Hillary. They do not need to tell their mates and friends how they voted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:50:47am

Really amazing that these people believe civil disobedience can include guns and all this threatening to kill police officers is just “peaceful” action.

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:53:16am

re: #204 WhatEVs

Was Pat Buchanan this blatant when he ran?

Pre-Twitter. If Pitchfork Pat had Twitter at his disposal, he probably would have used it.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:53:49am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:55:03am

re: #209 CuriousLurker

Oh, BTW, my original reason for dropping in this morning: I brought you guys a lizard, sleeping in a rose…

SQUEEEE!!

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I’m pretty sure I will never see a more adorable lizard as long as I live. Found at imgur.com, in case anyone wants the full-size pics (they’re 2764 x 2073 px).

Dang, that does look peaceful and pleasant. And can you imagine all that aroma?

Edit…put my comment in the wrong place…

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:57:18am

re: #116 Tigger2

Had just got home from work and laid down on the couch to watch TV, turned on the news just in time to see it take off. It took a while for it to sink into my brain to what just happened.

My spouse saw the explosion plume from her home in south coastal Georgia(and today is her birthday of all things). I remember being home sick from college that morning and watching tv when the show was interrupted for the special newscast.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:57:39am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The People are the rightful rulers of this land.”

Of course! So we all got together and formed a Government, headed by the people we choose, to run it. We get to throw them out every 2-6 years, depending. They in turn appoint others to work for them, the more powerful of whom are subject to confirmation by the people we choose to represent us.

All the land that doesn’t belong to any of us, belongs to all of us. And it is administered for us by the government we set up to do our bidding, for the benefit of all of us.

I’m not sure what part of this he has a problem with, unless he think it should be administered for the benefit of only a few of us, against the wishes of the rest of us.

In that case, fuck him.

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KingKenrod  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:58:02am

re: #202 lawhawk

GOP misogyny, Ohio style:

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Note too that Ohio’s Senate (GOP controlled) also just passed a bill to cease all funding to Planned Parenthood. These GOPers are pushing a misogynistic and dangerous ideology that puts women at risk.

And it’s happening at every level of government across the nation.

I know it won’t happen, and lawmakers are somewhat shielded from prosecution for official acts, but I’d love to see the GOP at a national level charged with conspiracy to deny civil rights. There’s evidence that a lot of this was planned.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:58:29am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

BJ Soper doesn’t seem to realize (or doesn’t want to admit) that the “bully” government he’s describing is a representative of the wishes of the majority of the American people.

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:59:33am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Really amazing that these people believe civil disobedience can include guns and all this threatening to kill police officers is just “peaceful” action.

Pretty big talk for a guy who has all of five militia members currently at his protest.

The FBI is probably pissing themselves laughing at this message.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:00:16am

re: #221 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, my oldest turns 31 in a couple months.

Mine turned 32 in November, but in my head he’s still like 5 years old—prolly always will be. The good part is that he’s become more responsible and has decided that good ol’ mom is not as clueless as he’d thought when he was younger. He even calls and says, “Hey, mom, I need your advice about…”

The first time he said that I just kinda sat there blinking uncomprehendingly, “Wait. What? You’re requesting that I give you advice?” *THUD*

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:01:43am

re: #226 ObserverArt

Dang, that does look peaceful and pleasant. And can you imagine all that aroma?

Edit…put my comment in the wrong place…

That’s what I was thinking—what a nice, soft place to sleep and it must smell really, really good.

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:02:09am

re: #202 lawhawk

GOP misogyny, Ohio style:

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Note too that Ohio’s Senate (GOP controlled) also just passed a bill to cease all funding to Planned Parenthood. These GOPers are pushing a misogynistic and dangerous ideology that puts women at risk.

And it’s happening at every level of government across the nation.

And here’s what “sane/moderate/nice guy” John Kasich had to say about that bill:
Kasich: Yeah, I just think it’s an organization that’s totally discredited itself…

Well, you have it in hospitals, it’s not that difficult.

Q: Well, you don’t go to a hospital for women’s health.

Kasich: Look, we can. Let me just explain to you—you seem like a very nice lady—I’m just not going to agree with you. Sorry. I’ve heard all the arguments. My mind is made up.

plunderbund.com

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:02:21am

re: #230 jaunte

BJ Soper doesn’t seem to realize (or doesn’t want to admit) that the “bully” government he’s describing is a representative of the wishes of the majority of the American people.

You can claim, with some justification, that the government no really responds to the wishes of the American people because of dirty money(see Koch brothers) and capture by special interests (see NRA).

However, as long as we still have elections, it remains a representative Republic, however compromised, and it is up to us to fix it peacefully.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:04:26am

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel

My mother was about 8 years old then. She told me stories when I was young, and I would sit and wonder how that would play out today. I’m not going to go into details, she was living in Philadelphia, in a poorer part of town. The fear and loathing that goes on today nonstop is enough to make you puke. If they had their hands on something like that….

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:04:53am

re: #200 SoundGuy 2016

Fox News FB feed has story on Secdee Patriots. Comments are chock full of ‘he was murdered with hands up!’ and ‘this is what happens when peaceful patriots protest under Socialist government.’

The Wingnut Virus is spreading.

That’s why it was important to get that version of the story out on the Intertubes as early as possible. Now it will live forever as and Article of Wingnut Faith.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:04:59am

re: #234 BeachDem

And here’s what “sane/moderate/nice guy” John Kasich had to say about that bill:
Kasich: Yeah, I just think it’s an organization that’s totally discredited itself…

Well, you have it in hospitals, it’s not that difficult.

Q: Well, you don’t go to a hospital for women’s health.

Kasich: Look, we can. Let me just explain to you—you seem like a very nice lady—I’m just not going to agree with you. Sorry. I’ve heard all the arguments. My mind is made up.

plunderbund.com

A great example of how arrogant and hard-headed he can get. Fucker. He shows a good side every once in awhile, but overall he’s a creep.

Later folks…warming up nicely today, think I’m gonna run out and blow the salt and grime off my car.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:05:30am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:05:50am

re: #228 Blind Frog Belly White

Of course! So we all got together and formed a Government, headed by the people we choose, to run it. We get to throw them out every 2-6 years, depending. They in turn appoint others to work for them, the more powerful of whom are subject to confirmation by the people we choose to represent us.

All the land that doesn’t belong to any of us, belongs to all of us. And it is administered for us by the government we set up to do our bidding, for the benefit of all of us.

I’m not sure what part of this he has a problem with, unless he think it should be administered for the benefit of only a few of us, against the wishes of the rest of us.

In that case, fuck him.

re: #230 jaunte

BJ Soper doesn’t seem to realize (or doesn’t want to admit) that the “bully” government he’s describing is a representative of the wishes of the majority of the American people.

But “I” didn’t create that government! It doesn’t represent me!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:07:02am

re: #210 Skip Intro

Meanwhile, up in Maine,

Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) wants state residents to starting shooting drug dealers on sight in order to help alleviate Maine’s heroin crisis.

huffingtonpost.com

He should give them all mobile guillotines. Less chance of wounding bystanders…

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:07:37am

re: #230 jaunte

BJ Soper doesn’t seem to realize (or doesn’t want to admit) that the “bully” government he’s describing is a representative of the wishes of the majority of the American people.

They’re doing it for all of us because we just don’t realize we need it. They’re doing peaceful demonstrations. They’re intimidating locals…but it’s just sweet talkin’, they really wouldn’t hurt a fly with their automatic weapons, bombs and shit.

Really, it’s for our own good.

Deranged isn’t even close to what these guys are. They’re delusional, deranged and very dangerous.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:09:25am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That’s why it was important to get that version of the story out on the Intertubes as early as possible. Now it will live forever as and Article of Wingnut Faith.

Thanks to an elected official. This country has taken a wrong turn. We’re feeding - and electing - crazy people.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:09:48am

re: #230 jaunte

BJ Soper doesn’t seem to realize (or doesn’t want to admit) that the “bully” government he’s describing is a representative of the wishes of the majority of the American people.

THIS. All their whining is such bullshit. Our leaders are our freely elected representatives. Like the sheriff said, that’s not how we do stuff in America—if you don’t like how things are, then use the proper channels to effect change. Vandalism and armed threats & intimidation are NOT the way to do it (unless you want to end up like Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.)

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:09:56am

re: #230 jaunte

BJ Soper doesn’t seem to realize (or doesn’t want to admit) that the “bully” government he’s describing is a representative of the wishes of the majority of the American people.

He just doesn’t care, because most people don’t count in his reckoning.

It’s the same thing with the sovereign citizens that were just at Malheur. “The people” were the ranchers that signed on for their horseshit. Everybody else could either be dismissed as stupid, or was actively part of “government”—not government is the normal sense, because they’d include any unfriendly press or social institution that didn’t share their politics.

At best, you’ve got people like the remaining dolts, who imagine that it’s just that their message hasn’t got out far enough, and that any moment big groups of people will jump to their aid. But…and this “but” is why these patriot/militia movement overlap with racist and theocratic causes so often…many participants have already adapted to the idea that they are the sole “real Americans.” Everybody else must be compelled to comply or punished for the treason of noncompliance.

Which is what makes the whole claim of Malheur as “peaceful protest” horseshit. The basic premise of their movement, and the root of setting up a para-government (the Public Safety Committee) with a para-judicial (the same people, along with the fake judges) is to implement a system of punishments…and their authority to do this in the county was predicated on their ability to apply force.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:11:29am

re: #243 WhatEVs

Thanks to an elected official. This country has taken a wrong turn. We’re feeding - and electing - crazy people.

The next occupation/standoff might not be as poorly organized and executed by a pathetic bunch of gunfucking loonies. And it could well produce more “martyrs”. These assholes long to see the Tree of Liberty watered again…

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:17:04am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The next occupation/standoff might not be as poorly organized and executed by a pathetic bunch of gunfucking loonies. And it could well produce more “martyrs”. These assholes long to see the Tree of Liberty watered again…

Exactly. The “patriots” laughed at these guys begging for snacks. Look at that announcement to send REAL “patriots” to Burns. Bring your own shit and be prepared to do some long-term winter camping.

There are going to be well prepared yokels who are going to wind up doing the fight-to-the-death thing. They’ll lose. Then another McVeigh will crawl out of the woodwork.

I feel sorry for the community. It’s unfortunate that some in that community are ok with all this.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:20:23am

re: #232 CuriousLurker

Mine turned 32 in November, but in my head he’s still like 5 years old—prolly always will be. The good part is that he’s become more responsible and has decided that good ol’ mom is not as clueless as he’d thought when he was younger. He even calls and says, “Hey, mom, I need your advice about…”

The first time he said that I just kinda sat there blinking uncomprehendingly, “Wait. What? You’re requesting that I give you advice?” *THUD*

November?
Funny, so did I.
the 2nd, to be exact.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:22:18am

re: #248 Not a Sparkly Vampire

November?
Funny, so did I.
the 2nd, to be exact.

Mom, is that you?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:22:18am
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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:27:04am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder which one of them brought the weed.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:28:27am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fry is a sleep-deprived psycho. Ol’ Sean is the one with a warrant. He has some decisions to make. YT has posted Fry’s video of Sean & wife’s ‘last dance’.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:29:16am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah… Have fun with that.

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20Hz  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:33:30am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sean Anderson is the guy in one of the videos Fry made yesterday, that was ranting in a rage about bloodshed and killing LE officers and Federal agents in front of an excavator yesterday.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:34:53am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

Fry is a sleep-deprived psycho. Ol’ Sean is the one with a warrant. He has some decisions to make. YT has posted Fry’s video of Sean & wife’s ‘last dance’.

How maudlin. Ugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:35:41am

and only one is from Oregon.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:36:13am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

Fry is a sleep-deprived psycho. Ol’ Sean is the one with a warrant. He has some decisions to make. YT has posted Fry’s video of Sean & wife’s ‘last dance’.

They’re all starring in their own reality tv show.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:36:20am

re: #255 CuriousLurker

How maudlin. Ugh.

His wife can waltz out of there if he faces the conspiracy charge.

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20Hz  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:36:21am

Sean Anderson:
Video

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:36:49am

Speaking of punk ass weasels/criminals, the guy who killed 4 people while DUI but got off with a slap on the wrist is back in the US after dropping extradition appeal.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:37:42am

So it’s Commando Baby, his wife, ISIS Boy, and Banta remaining?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:38:42am

re: #261 Pawn of the Oppressor

So it’s Commando Baby, his wife, ISIS Boy, and Banta remaining?

Yup. None of their stupid, stupid livestreams show them with NBC gear.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:38:57am

re: #261 Pawn of the Oppressor

So it’s Commando Baby, his wife, ISIS Boy, and Banta remaining?

Not quite a movie title.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:39:55am

re: #261 Pawn of the Oppressor

So it’s Commando Baby, his wife, ISIS Boy, and Banta remaining?

re: #262 Decatur Deb

Yup. None of their stupid, stupid livestreams show them with NBC gear.

Need more marijuana.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:41:32am

re: #257 jaunte

They’re all starring in their own reality tv show.

Which one?
Cops?
America’s Most Wanted?
Outrageous Acts of Insurrection?
Watering the Tree of Liberty With Bitter Tears?
Loon Hunting on Federal Lands?
Wingnut Welfare Queens?

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ElaineBenis  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:44:03am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody Twittering these braintrusts live feed yesterday said that Mrs Anderson told ol’ Sean that they couldn’t leave until he got a job.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:45:14am

re: #148 nines09

The new Michelle Barbie. The eyes follow you as it incoherently screams bible passages.

Not as bad as the new Sarah Palin Barbie which hunts wolves from helicopters and spews word salad incoherently for hours on end. Luckily it will quit working after a few days.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:45:22am

re: #234 BeachDem

And here’s what “sane/moderate/nice guy” John Kasich had to say about that bill:
Kasich: Yeah, I just think it’s an organization that’s totally discredited itself…

Well, you have it in hospitals, it’s not that difficult.

Q: Well, you don’t go to a hospital for women’s health.

Kasich: Look, we can. Let me just explain to you—you seem like a very nice lady—I’m just not going to agree with you. Sorry. I’ve heard all the arguments. My mind is made up.

plunderbund.com

Such a prick. And yeah this needs to be mentioned if Kasich is brought up as a “moderate” “sane” or “nice.” He’s just an as big prick as Cruz, Trump, etc when he can be. PP is “discredited” because of a doctored video based off lies. They did this same shit ot ACORN, the fuckers.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:45:32am

re: #266 ElaineBenis

Somebody Twittering these braintrusts live feed yesterday said that Mrs Anderson told ol’ Sean that they couldn’t leave until he got a job.

He’ll have a job. It just won’t make enough money to support her. She’ll have to find her own place to live as well, unless she stays there too long, and then she won’t be able to see him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:45:53am

re: #266 ElaineBenis

Somebody Twittering these braintrusts live feed yesterday said that Mrs Anderson told ol’ Sean that they couldn’t leave until he got a job.

Not likely to get a job after this…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:46:16am

re: #265 lawhawk

Which one?
Cops?
America’s Most Wanted?
Outrageous Acts of Insurrection?
Watering the Tree of Liberty With Bitter Tears?
Loon Hunting on Federal Lands?
Wingnut Welfare Queens?

A Long Night’s Journey Into Derp.

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ausador  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:46:53am
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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:46:58am

The imbeciles at Burns are no different than a lynch mob or a gang. No difference. They recognize nothing but themselves and think that might makes right. Bullies. The Bundy gang are tax cheats and freeloaders who probably hate tax cheats and freeloaders. In the end they are blowhards and cowards. All the guns you can carry will not change the fact you are a craven coward just trying to act hard. Piss off.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:47:13am

It’s getting down to a One-Flashbang scenario, almost.

I’m still wondering, where are ISIS Boy’s parents? I read that he ran off while they were on vacation.

Fitting that the last image of this embarassment may be a fat camouflaged derp-twinkie ranting about self-inflicted problems.

It helps when the bad guys are morons. Next time the nation might not be so lucky.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:47:47am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:48:06am

re: #266 ElaineBenis

Somebody Twittering these braintrusts live feed yesterday said that Mrs Anderson told ol’ Sean that they couldn’t leave until he got a job.

…in a van down by the river….

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:48:06am

re: #200 SoundGuy 2016

Fox News FB feed has story on Secdee Patriots. Comments are chock full of ‘he was murdered with hands up!’ and ‘this is what happens when peaceful patriots protest under Socialist government.’

The Wingnut Virus is spreading.

These are the exact same racists who are fine with cops shooting down or otherwise assaulting unarmed Black people though, including 16-year old girls clad in bikinis. They can all go to hell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:49:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:49:28am

re: #277 Patricia Kayden

These are the exact same racists who are fine with cops shooting down or otherwise assaulting unarmed Black people though, including 16-year old girls clad in bikinis. They can all go to hell.

Yep. Bunch of fucking hypocrites. They flat out lack not even a moral compass but a compass at all.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:49:58am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yep. More are showing up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:50:05am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:50:30am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:50:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:51:01am

They told the waitress they have been here on and off for a month. All 3 ordered the biscuits and gravy special.

as an appetizer…

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:51:58am

re: #280 Aunty Entity Dragon

Yep. More are showing up.

So, people are still sending dildos.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:52:11am

I’m tired of militias.

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ElaineBenis  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:52:41am

re: #269 Belafon

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being in the midst of an armed occupation with Feds surrounding and aimed at you is an inconvenient time to be sending out resumes.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:52:55am

re: #285 jaunte

So, people are still sending dildos.

You’d think they’d know to bring their own by now. No learning curve.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:53:06am

Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:53:47am
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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:54:40am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They told the waitress they have been here on and off for a month. All 3 ordered the biscuits and gravy special.

as an appetizer…

With some extra graby….
I wonder who paid for over a month of hanging out all strapped up and ready to rumble. Three Dildos in camo walk into a restaurant…

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:55:16am

Arizona’s right-wing state lawmakers seem to be aware that this episode has put one of their states’-rights cause in a very bad light and are either condemning the occupation or remaining silent (a couple claiming they weren’t following it—bullshit):

Arizona lawmakers react to Oregon standoff

Rep. Kelly Townsend, R-Mesa, tweeted that Finicum’s death was “#suicide by cop, just as he said he wanted.” She linked to a YouTube video narrated by Victoria Sharp, who said she was with Finicum when his car was stopped by police.

Townsend condemned the occupation, which started three weeks ago. She said the unfortunate shooting death does not equate the Oregon situation to other cases where states’-rights advocates believe the federal government overreacted to standoffs.

“This is not Waco, it’s not Ruby Ridge,” she said. “It’s discredited our cause. It wasn’t the right way to go about it.”

Rep. Bob Thorpe, R-Flagstaff, said he is still a strong supporter of states’ rights, but said bringing guns to a protest is not the way to make a point.

“From day one, I didn’t think they were going to accomplish a lot,” said Thorpe. “They weren’t going to get the federal government to step down, that wasn’t going to happen.” […]

Rep. David Livingston, the No. 3 Republican in the House of Representatives, said through a spokesman he had no comment on the situation.

Two years ago, Livingston could not stop talking about his experience traveling to the Bundy ranch, when protesters were ready to face off against federal agents attempting to end Bundy’s standoff in Nevada. He preceded his vote on a number of Arizona bills by commenting on how the trip changed his life. […]

Senate President Andy Biggs, R-Gilbert, an ardent supporter of states’ rights, also declined to weigh in on the Oregon standoff. He said he hadn’t been following the situation. Sen. Steve Smith, R-Maricopa, also an advocate of states’ rights, said he also hadn’t been following the Oregon situation.

“The need to take control of our land from the federal government is a plight we share,” Smith said. “But it’s unfortunate this situation came to that (Finicum’s death).” […]

More: azcentral.com

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:56:13am

re: #274 Pawn of the Oppressor

It’s getting down to a One-Flashbang scenario, almost.

I’m still wondering, where are ISIS Boy’s parents? I read that he ran off while they were on vacation.

Fitting that the last image of this embarassment may be a fat camouflaged derp-twinkie ranting about self-inflicted problems.

It helps when the bad guys are morons. Next time the nation might not be so lucky.

Imagine being on vacation and casually flipping on the TV and seeing your kid making an ass of himself on worldwide news. I’d die of embarrassment.

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Emoprog Refugee  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:56:51am

re: #289 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Is that one in white going for the Jedi Master look? Someone should tell him the light saber is all wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 9:59:22am

re: #292 CuriousLurker

Arizona’s right-wing state lawmakers seem to be aware that this episode has put one of their states’-rights cause in a very bad light and are either condemning the occupation or remaining silent (a couple claiming they weren’t following it—bullshit):

I really wish if these people hated the government as much as they claim to would stop drawing a salary from the American taxpayer adn give their job to someone who actually respects our federal government’s existence.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:00:05am

re: #289 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Look at them hiding their faces.

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Mattand  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:00:18am

re: #292 CuriousLurker

Arizona’s right-wing state lawmakers seem to be aware that this episode has put one of their states’-rights cause in a very bad light and are either condemning the occupation or remaining silent (a couple claiming they weren’t following it—bullshit):

Arizona Republicans: we’re crazy, but not that crazy!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:00:46am

Guess the Seals missed their flight.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:01:22am

re: #296 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Look at them hiding their faces.

It’s like that when you still live at home. “Where you going Jimmy Bob?” Campin!

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:02:13am

Jim Wright goes in on the Patritos, and really goes in on Lavoy.

Facebook Post

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:02:50am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*GAG* They’re apparently completely oblivious to how absurd they look and the fact that their dilemma is self-inflicted.

Drama Llama
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SoundGuy 2016  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:03:18am

re: #259 20Hz

He seems nice.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:03:51am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

I once told my mother that if I ever made the news for doing something spectacularly bad, she was forbidden from going on TV and saying I was a “good boy”, or playing the victim card.

I told her that she & my father should say that they did the best they could, and that I was the one who screwed up, and deserved whatever I got.

I told her this (half joking) after about the 20th time some killer’s mom showed up on TV defending her son. They were not allowed to waste any time in mourning or defending me if I commited some huge crime.

Point being, responsibility was a value in my family, but so was common sense. It’s expected that I wouldn’t end up throwing my future away for The Stupid.

I may be dull, and not as responsible as I should be, but at least I’m not That Guy. I keep my failure OFF of TV.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:06:23am

Has “State’s Rights” ever NOT been an excuse to act like assholes?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:06:34am

re: #298 Decatur Deb

Guess the Seals missed their flight.

They’re at the truck stop having biscuits and gravy….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:07:36am

re: #304 Pawn of the Oppressor

Has “State’s Rights” ever NOT been an excuse to act like assholes?

It really seems that way. I mean I think there are things that are better left off to the state/localities but too often I see in history states rights being used to defend anything from slavery to denying gay couples equal rights under the law. If you’re using states rights to deny people rights, you’re a shitty person.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:07:59am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re at the truck stop having biscuits and gravy….

That’ll leave a mark. “Look. It’s Seals brothers!”

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:08:07am

re: #304 Pawn of the Oppressor

Has “State’s Rights” ever NOT been an excuse to act like assholes?

Our side’s kind of hoping it prevails in Colorado, but doesn’t expand beyond legalizing marijuana.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:11:11am

The latest NBC/WSJ popularity poll in Iowa shows Trump with a lead, a flip from the last installment of this poll. An 11 point flip, very similar to the Monmouth poll yesterday:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:11:29am

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:11:59am

re: #307 nines09

That’ll leave a mark. “Look. It’s Seal brothers!”

They meant ACTUAL SEALS… Oops.

Ha ha!
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:13:27am

re: #307 nines09

That’ll leave a mark. “Look. It’s Seal brothers!”

They just want their bucket back.

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:15:31am

re: #300 makeitstop

Jim Wright goes in on the Patritos, and really goes in on Lavoy.

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I’d be lying if I said I was upset by Finicum’s death. Does that make me a bad person? I don’t really care. People die every day, many under tragic circumstances that they have no control over and for no reason that makes any sense. They die from age and disease and hunger and disaster and war and poverty and accident and violence and many get no choice in their fate at all.
Finicum?
Finicum CHOSE the manner of his death. He defiantly bragged about it. He looked forward to it. He engineered it.
Finicum’s death is entirely on him and nobody else. Nobody.

Pretty much describes my feelings exactly. (but with fewer “fucks”)

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:15:31am

Pathetic GOP candidate is pathetic.

First, she used toddlers without permission. Now she’s hoping to get on the bandwagon by tying donations to debating Trump outside the regular debate setup.

She’s an asterisk. But more than that, she’s a loathsome person who is an opportunist who thinks that she can latch on to Trump in hopes of raising her profile. If she cared that much about veterans, she’d donate regardless. Or push for more VA funding (because why should be need to rely on donations and charity to make sure the troops are properly cared for during/after service/separation?

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Mattand  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:15:31am

re: #244 CuriousLurker

THIS. All their whining is such bullshit. Our leaders are our freely elected representatives. Like the sheriff said, that’s not how we do stuff in America—if you don’t like how things are, then use the proper channels to effect change. Vandalism and armed threats & intimidation are NOT the way to do it (unless you want to end up like Somalia, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.)

Y’all Queda, IMO, is just one more example of how conservatives have utterly lost their frigging minds because an African-American was legally and honestly elected President.

Twice.

If Hillary Clinton manages to get elected, expect to see a comparable wave of misogyny from the Republican Party.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:18:04am

re: #314 lawhawk

Pathetic GOP candidate is pathetic.

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First, she used toddlers without permission. Now she’s hoping to get on the bandwagon by tying donations to debating Trump outside the regular debate setup.

She’s an asterisk. But more than that, she’s a loathsome person who is an opportunist who thinks that she can latch on to Trump in hopes of raising her profile. If she cared that much about veterans, she’d donate regardless. Or push for more VA funding (because why should be need to rely on donations and charity to make sure the troops are properly cared for during/after service/separation?

She really is.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:18:28am

re: #289 Aunty Entity Dragon

Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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A Beta-C drum? What a mall ninja.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:18:49am

re: #315 Mattand

Y’all Queda, IMO, is just one more example of how conservative have utterly lost their frigging mind because an African-American was legally and honestly elected President.

Twice.

If Hillary Clinton manages to get elected, expect to see a comparable wave of misogyny from the Republican Party.

Yep the sexism mask will come off like the racism one did.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:19:34am

re: #300 makeitstop

Jim Wright goes in on the Patritos, and really goes in on Lavoy.

Finicum’s death is entirely on him and nobody else. Nobody.

Yeah, but what about those kids he left behind, 11 of them? What about his wife? What about those who loved him?

What about them? Finicum didn’t give enough of shit about those people NOT to get himself killed. The guy was a selfish, self-centered, self-involved asshole who put his own lunacy above everything else and it killed him. […]

THIS. I was pretty much thinking the exact same thing last night. I’m not happy he got killed, but I’m gonna cry for him either. He put himself in harm’s way. They were given opportunities to leave peacefully and they refused.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:22:01am

re: #319 CuriousLurker

THIS. I was pretty much thinking the exact same thing last night. I’m not happy he got killed, but I’m gonna cry for him either. He put himself in harm’s way. They were given opportunities to leave peacefully and they refused.

Right, I’ll save my sadness for someone who deserves it. I’m not happy he’s dead either but at the same time I don’t feel bad for him either since he chose to take part in this. A lot of people who have gotten killed have not had a choice.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:22:38am

re: #113 Dr. Matt

My mother was apparently nursing me while watching the launch.

Needless to say I don’t have any memory of this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:22:58am

OT but it shouldn’t be this hard to find a federal job with a BA. Blah. So frustrating.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:25:15am

re: #319 CuriousLurker

THIS. I was pretty much thinking the exact same thing last night. I’m not happy he got killed, but I’m gonna cry for him either. He put himself in harm’s way. They were given opportunities to leave peacefully and they refused.

Which is what makes the authorities’ no-escalation approach so admirable: none of them could complain that they had been coerced, threatened, backed into a corner or forced to act in “self-defense”.

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Kragar  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:25:59am
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Mattand  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:26:01am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

OT but it shouldn’t be this hard to find a federal job with a BA. Blah. So frustrating.

At least you’ve got youth on your side. Try job hunting when your hair starts to turn. Oy.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:28:08am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

OT but it shouldn’t be this hard to find a federal job with a BA. Blah. So frustrating.

I know how you feel.

I have a B.S., Criminal Justice, minor in Homeland Security & Emergency Preparedness. I’ve completed the requirements for a post-baccalaureate certificate in Accounting which will be awarded in May.

I’ve applied for 35 jobs with the state and haven’t gotten a single interview. On their site, I keep getting marked “not qualified” for jobs where I met every one of the minimum requirements.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:28:13am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

OT but it shouldn’t be this hard to find a federal job with a BA. Blah. So frustrating.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:29:15am

re: #325 Mattand

At least you’ve got youth on your side. Try job hunting when your hair starts to turn. Oy.

I know. It’s just tough getting a good job on the spectrum. I prepared for this though. It’s just frustrating because to be honest the last job I had while I enjoyed it was something I could have done in high school. I wanted something that I can actually use my academic skills I acquired in college in. These HR managers are way too picky IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:29:39am

re: #327 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Thanks.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:29:58am

re: #326 Timothy Watson

You need experience to get job. You need job to get experience.

Vicious cycle to be sure.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:30:20am

re: #326 Timothy Watson

I know how you feel.

I have a B.S., Criminal Justice, minor in Homeland Security & Emergency Preparedness. I’ve completed the requirements for a post-baccalaureate certificate in Accounting which will be awarded in May.

I’ve applied for 35 jobs with the state and haven’t gotten a single interview. On their site, I keep getting marked “not qualified” for jobs where I met every one of the minimum requirements.

Yeah I’ve applied for so many and I can’t even land an interview. I mean it’s just tough because I really want the challenge and to be able to prove myself.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:30:56am

re: #330 lawhawk

You need experience to get job. You need job to get experience.

Vicious cycle to be sure.

Or take a small loan from your parents….say, a million dollars.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:31:04am

re: #330 lawhawk

You need experience to get job. You need job to get experience.

Vicious cycle to be sure.

Exactly. I mean yeah maybe it was a mistake by not working in college but that was something I chose to because I wanted to make my grades as strong as possible.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:31:27am

re: #332 Dr. Matt

Or take a small loan from your parents….say, a millions dollars.

Heh the Romney, take a loan from your parents and start a business. I wanted to smack him for that.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:31:52am

re: #314 lawhawk

Pathetic GOP candidate is pathetic.

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First, she used toddlers without permission. Now she’s hoping to get on the bandwagon by tying donations to debating Trump outside the regular debate setup.

She’s an asterisk. But more than that, she’s a loathsome person who is an opportunist who thinks that she can latch on to Trump in hopes of raising her profile. If she cared that much about veterans, she’d donate regardless. Or push for more VA funding (because why should be need to rely on donations and charity to make sure the troops are properly cared for during/after service/separation?

But it’s not about them. It’s about her. Some people are just pieces of shit. She is a piece of shit.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:32:08am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Heh the Romney, take a loan from your parents and start a business. I wanted to smack him for that.

We sort of did.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:32:19am

re: #159 nines09

My nightmare is a 1918 style Spanish Influenza pandemic. Think about that in this enlightened modern age.

My mother lived thru the 1918 influenza pandemic.

Everyone in the family became very ill, including aunts and uncles, except for my mother.
She was 7 at the time, and remembered washing dishes and doing housework every waking minute.
One of her sisters died.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:33:16am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

Heh the Romney, take a loan from your parents and start a business. I wanted to smack him for that.

Trump said he started out with “only” a million dollar loan from his father. Romney was more modest, he held up for an example the Jimmy John’s founder who got a $20K loan from his parents.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:34:00am

re: #336 Decatur Deb

We sort of did.

Heh yeah we did. I’m glad he’s not President.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:34:24am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

Trump said he started out with “only” a million dollar loan from his father. Romney was more modest, he held up for an example the Jimmy John’s founder who got a $20K loan from his parents.

Yeah that was some ridiculous crap too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:37:01am

re: #337 BeenHereAwhile

My mother lived thru the 1918 influenza pandemic.

Everyone in the family became very ill, including aunts and uncles, except for my mother.
She was 7 at the time, and remembered washing dishes and doing housework every waking minute.
One of her sisters died.

There was a family legend that my grandfather had siblings that were twins that died in the flu pandemic but my research seems to suggest that wasn’t true. He did have two stillborn siblings though. In fact all ny grandparents but my dad’s mom had a sibling die as children but my dad’s mom lost her mother at ten so she didn’t exactly skate free to tragedy. I think that’s why I laugh when people try to pass off those days as the quote on quote good old days. I mean I know children still die in childhood these days but it’s not nearly at the rate it was.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:38:05am

re: #330 lawhawk

You need experience to get job. You need job to get experience.

Vicious cycle to be sure.

Yep, entry level accounting jobs where they want to you have experience in proprietary policy and practices or software.

Or am I suppose to take a job as a clerk, which pays less than what I make now, which I would be vastly over-qualified for?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:40:09am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

There was a family legend that my grandfather had siblings that were twins that died in the flu pandemic but my research seems to suggest that wasn’t true. He did have two stillborn siblings though. In fact all ny grandparents but my dad’s mom had a sibling die as children but my dad’s mom lost her mother at ten so she didn’t exactly skate free to tragedy. I think that’s why I laugh when people try to pass off those days as the quote on quote good old days. I mean I know children still die in childhood these days but it’s not nearly at the rate it was.

I only just thought about it, but my dad would’ve been four or five years old and my mom less than a year old when the epidemic hit…ducked a bullet there, so to speak.

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Kragar  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:40:33am

Honestly, as far as Trump ditching the GOP debate, I can’t really fault him as far as publicity goes. He could just sit there watching the debate, ripping on the other candidates and the format at his event and it would still get more rating than the actual debate.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:40:51am

I stumbled across this in an old message to my BIL and it made me smile. So for a break and a laugh here’s something from August last year. Pointless Planet, Inane advertising in an irrelevant world

Jeb!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:41:07am

John Sepulvado tweeted several days ago that garbage was overflowing from the dumpsters and the whole place smelled really really bad.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:42:13am

A lot of paralegal positions give preference to people who have worked at the firm as a receptionist or admin assistant. While I think I could be a capable AA, receptionist work would be a terrible fit for me. I mean it just seems so often prospective employers expect too much of applicants. I mean yeah I get that they don’t want to pay for a lot of on site training but I think it would be in their interest to look more at candidates who may not necessarily have the direct experience but have promise. I had zero legal experience going into my paralegal class outside an introductory administration of criminal justice class that I had to take for my history BA. Ended up getting a 98%. I did my English minor on a gamble too.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:42:41am

And now, a Public Service Announcement from Deadpool regarding testicular cancer:

(mildly NSFW, so it’s in a spoiler tag)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZEP6glW4AQ

Actually, it’s a pretty damned decent PSA, I’d say.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:43:52am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I only just thought about it, but my dad would’ve been four or five years old and my mom less than a year old when the epidemic hit…ducked a bullet there, so to speak.

It’s really interesting to think about all the pandemics i.e. the flu one and also of course the Bubonic Plague and thinking how all of us are descended from someone who was lucky enough to survive that. And of course war. I realized during my research of Germany that the part of Germany where my family’s from was a huge part of the 30 Years War. I’m also descended from a lot of youngest sons and daughters as well.

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:45:05am

One more. BBL.

Trump; Great again

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:45:37am

re: #344 Kragar

Honestly, as far as Trump ditching the GOP debate, I can’t really fault him as far as publicity goes. He could just sit there watching the debate, ripping on the other candidates and the format at his event and it would still get more rating than the actual debate.

He gets to be the focus without even showing up. He can snipe from the sidelines, and then complain when the debate mentions him or his absence (and the candidates that are there do the same) that he’s not there to address them personally.

It’s all win win for him. His supporters don’t care what he does at this point. He could admit to being a serial killer and they’d still support him (especially if they were all liberal victims).

It’s also mind boggling that he’s even in this position given that statements/actions he’s made would have completely destroyed any other person in his position. The racism/misogyny/xenophobia gets a pass - or worse - increases his polling/standing among GOPers who vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:46:26am

re: #342 Timothy Watson

Yep, entry level accounting jobs where they want to you have experience in proprietary policy and practices or software.

Or am I suppose to take a job as a clerk, which pays less than what I make now, which I would be vastly over-qualified for?

It really is a Catch-22 with that. Honestly, and maybe this is my slight persecution complex but I think I’ve been passed over for a lot of work due to my Asperger’s. Maybe that’s not fair but employment is a problem for people on the spectrum. See, that’s what pisses me off about Republican governors like Rautner in Illinois. These guys bitch about welfare and public assistance going to people but they also cut resources that will help people. I’ve become much better at interviewing due to things like the Virginia Department of Rehabilitative Services. These programs help people like me on the spectrum.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:47:48am

re: #330 lawhawk

You need experience to get job. You need job to get experience.

Vicious cycle to be sure.

The Secret of My Success - Job Hunting - HD

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:49:53am

re: #351 lawhawk

He gets to be the focus without even showing up. He can snipe from the sidelines, and then complain when the debate mentions him or his absence (and the candidates that are there do the same) that he’s not there to address them personally.

It’s all win win for him. His supporters don’t care what he does at this point. He could admit to being a serial killer and they’d still support him (especially if they were all liberal victims).

It’s also mind boggling that he’s even in this position given that statements/actions he’s made would have completely destroyed any other person in his position. The racism/misogyny/xenophobia gets a pass - or worse - increases his polling/standing among GOPers who vote.

The debates have already served their purposes for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:50:46am

re: #353 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

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Video

Quite something since that came out the year I was born. Not a whole lot has changed.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:51:45am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

Trump said he started out with “only” a million dollar loan from his father. Romney was more modest, he held up for an example the Jimmy John’s founder who got a $20K loan from his parents.

I wasn’t aware that Romney heart the Jimmy John’s founder, makes perfect sense given how they encourage managers to steal from employees.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:51:50am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

I think that’s why I laugh when people try to pass off those days as the quote on quote good old days. I mean I know children still die in childhood these days but it’s not nearly at the rate it was.

This. My paternal great-grandparents lived in Brooklyn and had 12 children. In the space of two years in the 1880’s they lost five of their children to things like tuberculosis, meningitis, diphtheria, etc. I can’t even begin to fathom how painful that must have been. Shortly thereafter they picked up and moved to Connecticut.

My dad visited New York on occasion, but never lived there, yet nonetheless always expressed a deep dislike of it—my best guess is that he got that from his dad, who lost so many siblings to disease and God-knows-what-else in NYC. I mean, back in those days the conditions there were horrifyingly bad. *shudder*

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:52:31am

re: #344 Kragar

Honestly, as far as Trump ditching the GOP debate, I can’t really fault him as far as publicity goes. He could just sit there watching the debate, ripping on the other candidates and the format at his event and it would still get more rating than the actual debate.

He has succeeded in turning it into just another Kiddie Table debate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:57:14am

re: #357 CuriousLurker

This. My paternal great-grandparents lived in Brooklyn and had 12 children. In the space of two years in the 1880’s they lost five of their children to things like tuberculosis, meningitis, diphtheria, etc. I can’t even begin to fathom how painful that must have been. Shortly thereafter they picked up and moved to Connecticut.

My dad visited New York on occasion, but never lived there, yet nonetheless always expressed a deep dislike of it—my best guess is that he got that from his dad, who lost so many siblings to disease and God-knows-what-else in NYC. I mean, back in those days the conditions there were horrifyingly bad. *shudder*

Right. It was so common to lose children in those days. And it really wasn’t just a class thing. President McKinley and his wife outlived their daughters. Abraham and Mary Lincoln had only one son live beyond the age of 18. The only people who talk about the good old days are the people who never lived it.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:58:20am

re: #353 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Is anyone else seeing sort of Star Wars themed youtube? i.e., every time I adjust the volume, there is a lightsaber noise.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:58:30am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

There was a family legend that my grandfather had siblings that were twins that died in the flu pandemic but my research seems to suggest that wasn’t true. He did have two stillborn siblings though. In fact all ny grandparents but my dad’s mom had a sibling die as children but my dad’s mom lost her mother at ten so she didn’t exactly skate free to tragedy. I think that’s why I laugh when people try to pass off those days as the quote on quote good old days. I mean I know children still die in childhood these days but it’s not nearly at the rate it was.

At the turn of the 20th Century, it was horrifically high. 10% (100/1000 live births). Maternal mortality (death in childbirth) was 90/100,000 births. It’s HUGELY better now.

In my own family, my Mom’s twin sister died in infancy. Her little brother died at 2 years old from bad ice cream while the family was visiting my Great Grandparents in MO.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:02:10am

re: #361 Blind Frog Belly White

At the turn of the 20th Century, it was horrifically high. 10% (100/1000 live births). Maternal mortality (death in childbirth) was 90/100,000 births. It’s HUGELY better now.

In my own family, my Mom’s twin sister died in infancy. Her little brother died at 2 years old from bad ice cream while the family was visiting my Great Grandparents in MO.

It really is. Before I had researched, I had heard about my grandfather losing a sister. As I had never known him, I never knew for sure but sure enough and to make matters even more tragic for his parents it was on Christmas Eve. My grandfather was only six months old when it happened so no memories of her. It’s just amazing what we take for granted these days. And as I said it really can’t even be called a class thing though certainly you can infer (haven’t seen the data) that morality was much higher among the poor for obvious reasons.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:03:23am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

It really is. Before I had researched, I had heard about my grandfather losing a sister. As I had never known him, I never knew for sure but sure enough and to make matters even more tragic for his parents it was on Christmas Eve. My grandfather was only six months old when it happened so no memories of her. It’s just amazing what we take for granted these days. And as I said it really can’t even be called a class thing though certainly you can infer (haven’t seen the data) that morality was much higher among the poor for obvious reasons.

Infectious disease is no respecter of wealth and status.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:04:21am

re: #360 Dr. Matt

Is anyone else seeing sort of Star Wars themed youtube? i.e., every time I adjust the volume, there is a lightsaber noise.

Never mind. Fixed—-> google.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:04:41am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:04:55am

re: #363 Blind Frog Belly White

Infectious disease is no respecter of wealth and status.

Yep.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:07:21am

Tonight Trump is playing the Sheslow at Drake University:

drake.edu

Holds 775. Small venue for Trump, but it looks pretty anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:10:17am

the ducks are relieved…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:11:22am

re: #363 Blind Frog Belly White

Infectious disease is no respecter of wealth and status.

But it helps if you are not living in filth, squalor and close quarters with other infected people…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:11:23am

ok, I laughed…

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:12:58am

re: #269 Belafon

He’ll have a job. It just won’t make enough money to support her. She’ll have to find her own place to live as well, unless she stays there too long, and then she won’t be able to see him.

Even on Thursday’s and Saturday’s.

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Great White Snark  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:14:23am

Um, er, gee, how nuts is THIS guy? Russian fighter jet to shoot down a Fox news Airliner?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:15:29am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:16:24am

re: #372 Great White Snark

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Um, er, gee, how nuts is THIS guy? Russian fighter jet to shoot down a Fox news Airliner?

President Trump’s first EO on Day One will be to repeal the 1st Amendment and make the 2nd Amendment into the 1st and remove that silly “well regulated” part.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:17:51am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That last tweet is indicative of how Ammon is trying to change his criminal trial into some sort of constitutional argument thing.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:18:10am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Somehow, I don’t think they’ll listen.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:18:18am

re: #369 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But it helps if you are not living in filth, squalor and close quarters with other infected people…

True, although we’d probably consider the living conditions of the relatively affluent at that time to be fairly squalid. It’s especially worth noting that any time you too antibiotics in your life is a time when, before antibiotics, you might have died. Also a lot of deaths in childhood were due to diseases which have been nearly eradicated by vaccination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:18:52am

oh good freaking grief…

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Great White Snark  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:19:11am

re: #374 The Vicious Babushka

First time I ever saw an impeachable platform.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:19:43am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:20:02am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ammon Bundy: I am committed to freedom, not force. We are done with the culture of force

Then wth were they doing occupying the reserve in the first place?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:20:20am

re: #377 Blind Frog Belly White

True, although we’d probably consider the living conditions of the relatively affluent at that time to be fairly squalid. It’s especially worth noting that any time you too antibiotics in your life is a time when, before antibiotics, you might have died. Also a lot of deaths in childhood were due to diseases which have been nearly eradicated by vaccination.

along with indoor plumbing, sanitation, water treatment and public waste removal services…

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:20:25am

re: #344 Kragar

Honestly, as far as Trump ditching the GOP debate, I can’t really fault him as far as publicity goes. He could just sit there watching the debate, ripping on the other candidates and the format at his event and it would still get more rating than the actual debate.

You’re probably right, and it is a sad situation indeed when the selecting of a presidential candidate has been reduced to what makes for the most highly rated “reality” show.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:20:30am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“We planned this whole thing out like this…yeah, yeah, that’s it!”

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Great White Snark  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:20:40am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freaking grief…

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As opposed to back at the Bundy Ranch I suppose. Dude has had a defense lawyer come to Jesus moment for sure.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:20:44am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

Phase I has suceeeded Winning!

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Timothy Watson  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:20:53am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freaking grief…

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But, but, I was assured by the wingnuts that none of them had guns!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:21:25am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

along with indoor plumbing, sanitation, water treatment and public waste removal services…

“But apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:21:31am

but only the particular constitutional rights they approve of as they apply to them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:22:03am

re: #388 Blind Frog Belly White

“But apart from that, what have the Romans eve done for us?”

lead pipes!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:22:18am

re: #381 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Then wth were they doing occupying the reserve in the first place?

It didn’t work out so easy as they thought it would.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:22:25am
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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:23:39am

re: #345 nines09

I stumbled across this in an old message to my BIL and it made me smile. So for a break and a laugh here’s something from August last year. Pointless Planet, Inane advertising in an irrelevant world

Jeb!

I love that site. Wish they had more time to devote to adding content. I also love the Christie and Huckabee spots.

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:24:13am

Remember this? I wonder if all this money from his rally is going to this phony group?

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:24:22am

Time for the ol’ smack-your-face-onto-his-fist move.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:25:26am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

It didn’t work out so easy as they thought it would.

They must’ve assumed “like father, like son”…

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:25:56am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

That last tweet is indicative of how Ammon is trying to change his criminal trial into some sort of constitutional argument thing.

The problem Bundy is going to have is that no one’s constitutional rights are being violated by the government owning property. But let’s assume, for a moment, that they are. What he and his compadres should have done was go into the compound, sit until the feds come in, get arrested, and go to trial for that. There are so many other laws he’s broken since then that he’ll be spending time in jail for all of those.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:27:24am

LOLOLOLOL!
The point you made is that you are all feckless eejits.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:27:26am

re: #397 Belafon

The problem Bundy is going to have is that no one’s constitutional rights are being violated by the government owning property. But let’s assume, for a moment, that they are. What he and his compadres should have done was go into the compound, sit until the feds come in, get arrested, and go to trial for that. There are so many other laws he’s broken since then that he’ll be spending time in jail for all of those.

FREE THE DILDO NINE!!1!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:28:26am

re: #399 Decatur Deb

FREE THE DILDO NINE!!1!

well, it’s only four now (six if you count the Andersons’ two dogs)

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:29:13am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

Did the point have to end with Lavoy’s death? That’s on your head, Ammon. Not the governments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:29:20am

“conflict of interest”…hmmmm

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withak  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:29:25am

Much like the Rage Furby and Gawker, everything is going exactly according to plan with Ammon Bundy and the Feds.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:29:50am

re: #384 TedStriker

“We planned this whole thing out like this…yeah, yeah, that’s it!”

Like CCJ: “Now I have Planned Parenthood, Twitter and Gawker just where I want them!”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:30:02am

re: #400 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, it’s only four now (six if you count the Andersons’ two dogs)

Ammon’s circus troupe plus 3 more last night minus whichever one/two are Feds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:30:25am

re: #384 TedStriker

“We planned this whole thing out like this…yeah, yeah, that’s it!”

So did Pee-Wee Herman on his bicycle…

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:31:30am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

“conflict of interest”…hmmmm

Given how Ammon’s currently talking, my money is that’s he cut a deal contingent on getting the rest to surrender.

Hence the utter re-invention of what the occupation was about.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:32:24am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That last tweet is indicative of how Ammon is trying to change his criminal trial into some sort of constitutional argument thing.

Exactly what I said yesterday. First Amendment Rights.

With guns and explosives in case no one listens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:32:26am
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:32:32am

“The world is listening.” Yep, and wondering just how fucked in the head you guys are.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:32:49am

re: #332 Dr. Matt

Or take a small loan from your parents….say, a million dollars.

Then you too can be a self-made man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:33:29am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:33:46am

“Take that, you bastards!”, yelled the thief from his cross.

And the passing Romans just shook their heads.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:34:20am

re: #384 TedStriker

“We planned this whole thing out like this…yeah, yeah, that’s it!”

From the CCJ school of My Plan Is Going Eggcellently!!11!!!! whatthefuckever.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:36:18am

re: #403 withak

Much like the Rage Furby and Gawker, everything is going exactly according to plan with Ammon Bundy and the Feds.

Beat me to it!

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sagehen  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:36:29am

re: #304 Pawn of the Oppressor

Has “State’s Rights” ever NOT been an excuse to act like assholes?

Of course. And on those occasions, the right wing is TOTALLY opposed to the concept. How fucking dare those outlier liberal states think they can defy the will of DC and do something that isn’t national standard?

Like when Pennsylvania wanted stricter mortgage standards and Massachusetts had wanted more bankruptcy protections for individuals and Connecticut had some ideas about gun control and California wanted to reduce carbon emissions, or Colorado legalized pot…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:37:44am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:40:05am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ammon Bundy: We are done with the culture of force

.

“Now we try the Culture of Farce.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:40:09am
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wrenchwench  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:41:25am

The song st the top is a very nice cover, but the original is hard to beat:

John Hiatt - Crossing Muddy Waters

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:42:01am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Gunman” would have fit nicely.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:42:11am

re: #409 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:42:24am

re: #361 Blind Frog Belly White

At the turn of the 20th Century, it was horrifically high. 10% (100/1000 live births). Maternal mortality (death in childbirth) was 90/100,000 births. It’s HUGELY better now.

I think infant mortality is still shamefully way too high for a country like ours. Three states with 7.7-9.7%; more than 20 with 6.2-7.6%. And so many of those fighting against Medicaid, against Planned Parenthood and against nutrition program. Ugh.

datacenter.kidscount.org

Edited to add (Thanks Dave80) those are #s per thousand, NOT percentages. Still too high, but not as nuts as I originally thought)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:43:16am

re: #423 BeachDem

I think infant mortality is still shamefully way too high for a country like ours. Three states with 7.7-9.7%; more than 20 with 6.2-7.6%. And so many of those fighting against Medicaid, against Planned Parenthood and against nutrition program. Ugh.

datacenter.kidscount.org

Yeah it’s way too high in a country like ours. Too many people would rather have lower taxes than live with progress. Fuckers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:43:23am

re: #423 BeachDem

I think infant mortality is still shamefully way too high for a country like ours. Three states with 7.7-9.7%; more than 20 with 6.2-7.6%. And so many of those fighting against Medicaid, against Planned Parenthood and against nutrition program. Ugh.

datacenter.kidscount.org

Because we should have the right to get sick and die without government meddling.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:44:06am

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Which is why I gave up on the Lies Angeles Times years ago…

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Dave80  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:45:58am

re: #423 BeachDem

It is high but reread the chart its it is 7.7 or 9.7 out of a 1,000 not a hundred. Still shamefully high for a developed nation but an order of magnitude less that 7.7%-9.7%

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:46:46am

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, I can see that. Ryan is going to claim that he wasn’t in on the conspiracy or that he wasn’t giving orders, while Ammon was. There are different defenses at play for each of the brothers, and they might try to play one off the other.

In any event, these nuts should spent a lot of time occupying federal prison.

They weren’t merely protesting, but engaging in quite a few documented criminal acts:
1) theft of government property (taking/using FWS vehicles);
2) illegal access of federal computer systems;
3) vandalism (destruction of fences, defacing FWS vehicles);
4) harassment;
5) threats to federal law enforcement;
6) domestic terrorism (18 USC 2332B);
7) conspiracy;
8) damage/destruction of Native American antiquities;
9) damage/destruction of utility property;
10) endangering the welfare of minors (for that period of time when children were brought into the refuge during standoff);
11) etc.

And why did they engage in these criminal acts? Because they don’t like the federal and state law that gives the federal government the right to manage millions of acres of federal lands. In particular, the Bundy nuts think that they should not have to pay for the right to graze on federal lands at all (even though they used to pay for that privilege until the BLM changed the fee structure, which is still well below market rate), and therefore decided to go up to a remote NWR in Oregon to make trouble. They picked Malheur NWR because of a bunch of other nuts who decided that they had the right to set fires and damage federal property (putting firefighters at risk, and also potentially covering up criminal acts - poaching). Those local nuts, the Hammonds, actually went to jail peacefully as the standoff began its opening phase, so this became a Bundy nut production.

They attracted all the wrong sorts - crazed extremists who threatened violence, had criminal records, and who explicitly stated that they’d die rather than surrender to cops peacefully.

For all my criticism of the BLM and FBI in handling the Bundy ranch and NWR situations, they still managed to pretty much end these standoffs with minimal casualties (except for the suicide by cop). That’s tremendous restraint when these nuts are for all intents and purposes domestic terrorists - particularly with their ongoing and repeated threats against federal officials and demands for changes to federal policy or else there’d be consequences.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:47:22am

Harney County Judge Grasty.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:48:42am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Except they totally did make this crap up.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:48:55am

re: #369 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But it helps if you are not living in filth, squalor and close quarters with other infected people…

These days it’s airliners that are the best way to spread disease.

Which makes sense if filth, squalor and close quarters with other infected people are the worst conditions for illnesses to catch something awful. semi/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:49:55am

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Except they totally did make this crap up.

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Do these people spend their days coming up with stupid memes? Sounds like a real pathetically lonely existence.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:50:22am

re: #420 wrenchwench

There you are. This is for you:

Haughty goat giving someone the side-eye //
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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:50:39am

So, Trump goes to find Russians to stand in for our vets. Then he finds a white rapper in face-paint to stand in for our troops.

Sheesh.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:52:03am
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wrenchwench  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:52:18am

re: #433 CuriousLurker

There you are. This is for you:

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I’ve goat to thank you for that!

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Stanley Sea  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:52:39am

re: #434 lawhawk

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So, Trump goes to find Russians to stand in for our vets. Then he finds a white rapper in face-paint to stand in for our troops.

Sheesh.

And it’s to HIS OWN foundation. What a grift!

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:53:59am

re: #416 sagehen

Of course. And on those occasions, the right wing is TOTALLY opposed to the concept. How fucking dare those outlier liberal states think they can defy the will of DC and do something that isn’t national standard?

Like when Pennsylvania wanted stricter mortgage standards and Massachusetts had wanted more bankruptcy protections for individuals and Connecticut had some ideas about gun control and California wanted to reduce carbon emissions, or Colorado legalized pot…

Don’t forget when California didn’t want to torture chickens.

California Won’t Let Iowa Rep. Steve King Torture Chickens, So Now He Hates States Rights

wonkette.com

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:55:14am

re: #436 wrenchwench

I’ve goat to thank you for that!

You’re welcome! Might be a good one for trolls, heh.

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Mattand  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:56:03am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freaking grief…

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In Oregon, maybe. Care to explain Nevada,?

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wrenchwench  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:58:02am

re: #439 CuriousLurker

You’re welcome! Might be a good one for trolls, heh.

Sergey will like it, too. He likes the Sassy Goats. He can serve your side eye goat to Shimshon.

Thanks also for the lizard in a rose (see ‘top comments’ for a link, folks)!

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 11:58:46am

The Bundy nuts are going to go full metal sovereign citizen BS in the courts.

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BeachDem  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:00:01pm

re: #427 Dave80

It is high but reread the chart its it is 7.7 or 9.7 out of a 1,000 not a hundred. Still shamefully high for a developed nation but an order of magnitude less that 7.7%-9.7%

Oops, you’re right—those are #s per thousand, not percentages. Thanks.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:00:27pm

Okay, one more before Charles puts up a new thread. This one made me giggle:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:00:58pm

re: #442 lawhawk

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The Bundy nuts are going to go full metal sovereign citizen BS in the courts.

I pretty much got that hint loud and clear with his lawyer’s presser yesterday.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:01:08pm

re: #442 lawhawk

The Bundy nuts are going to go full metal sovereign citizen BS in the courts.

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

I want to see what Bundy thinks that means.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:01:31pm

re: #442 lawhawk

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The Bundy nuts are going to go full metal sovereign citizen BS in the courts.

What does he mean by that?
law.cornell.edu

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:02:21pm

It probably boils down to “you’re not the boss of me.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:03:01pm

re: #325 Mattand

At least you’ve got youth on your side. Try job hunting when your hair starts to turn. Oy.

Tell me about it. I think this is a little secret that America does not discuss. Since I list my job at 58 (closing company) I’ve grown more aware of how big an issue this is. There are many people I know directly or through friends that are unable to find decent paying work in the mid-50 up age bracket. It sucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:03:14pm

re: #442 lawhawk

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japa21  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:04:07pm

re: #439 CuriousLurker

Surely you kid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:04:49pm
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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:05:30pm

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was thinking maybe it’s a call for 3%’s to come rescue him.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:06:48pm

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:08:31pm

WHY, MERCIFUL G-D????

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:08:37pm

re: #453 Belafon

I was thinking maybe it’s a call for 3%’s to come rescue him.

That was my first thought too.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:09:53pm

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

WHY, MERCIFUL G-D????

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In-freaking-credible. *smh*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:11:04pm

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:12:57pm

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if he thinks he’s greater than or just equal to MLK.

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:13:00pm

Just in case you missed lunch, here’s some word salad:

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Dr. Matt  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:16:52pm

re: #460 Lidane

Just in case you missed lunch, here’s some word salad:

There is nothing more amusing than hearing the RWNJs whine about Fox’s bias.

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withak  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:18:09pm

re: #460 Lidane

What are the chances this will damage my brain and/or my calm?

Ah, fuck it, I’m goin’ in.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:18:21pm

I seriously hope the feds have been paying attention to these militia idiots and not just the pack of dipshits in Oregon. I think we’re going to see more of this, and to excuse all these guys as being as inept as this group is a big mistake. People are going to get killed, and I would not at all be shocked to see another OKC type attack being planned and carried out in the near future.

It’s funny how the wingnuts lost their shit when the report came out about these groups, how they whined and cried that conservatives were being singled out for being the violent stereotype they chose for themselves.

And what they did to this piece of public land is a travesty. They’ve plowed and dug, messed with artifacts, thrown trash all over the place, gone through people’s personal belongings and work computers. God only knows what personal information they found about the park rangers and other staff and what they did with it. They’ve menaced and threatened the locals, kept kids from attending school because of safety concerns and on and on. Every fucking one of these people should be forced to clean up their mess and be fined.

There’s a subculture of farmers, ranchers, hunters and “outdoor sports enthusiasts” who seem to think that they the only ones who know anything about the land and know best how to use it. If they had their way, the entire NPS, NFS, NFWS and any other public land would be a mud pit with not a single thing left on it inside a year. They destroy everything they touch and just move on. They’re a small minority and they are bullying the rest of us. It’s pissing me off, the parks service and our forests are one of the best ideas this country ever had and it’s always been under attack. John Muir was writing about these kinds of assholes back in his day and he warned us they would never stop and we always had to be vigilant and teach our kids to be too.

I’m so sick of people breaking things and then blaming the people who care. Fuck thse assholes, 10 yrs in jail isn’t enough. Neither is 20.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:19:03pm

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

I call modified BS.

Variety had the story, in which the TLC execs were hammered by media during the look-sees for other shows. They mentioned only that the last couple of specials relating to the Duggars did well and that they might consider something down the road.

No promises of anything beyond that.

But imagine my shock that the Christian Post completely dropped any mention of Josh Duggar’s admissions of molesting his sisters/engaging in criminal acts against other girls, or the coverup by his parents in coordination with local law enforcement, and instead claimed the show stopped airing because of Josh being involved in Ashley Madison.

The stars of the series recently suffered through some scandals when it was revealed that Joshua Duggar took part in AshleyMadison . com, a website that serves as an online dating site for married men. With the family known as devout Christians, the news of Joshua’s infidelity led to the show’s cancellation.

The fuckers at the Christian Post can’t even be honest about why the show was cancelled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:19:29pm

sorry, once the stoned and drunken yule log on YT is quenched one last time, not as many will be watching.

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Mattand  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:19:56pm

re: #462 withak

What are the chances this will damage my brain and/or my calm?

Ah, fuck it, I’m goin’ in.

Calculon - Noooooo

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:21:49pm
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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:22:24pm

re: #463 A Mom Anon

And, these assholes usurped the meaning of patriot. Whenever I see “patriot” these days, I know they are the exact opposite, lunatics who think they, alone, are above the law.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:22:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:24:11pm

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s somewhat amusing seeing these twitter “legal experts” going on and on believing that the complaint filed yesterday is the entire case against these bozos.

ETA: I’m not talking about JJ.

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:26:07pm

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

There will superseding indictments that take into account every act, up through their arrest. The initial indictment is just the start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:26:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:27:39pm

I do have to say that Ammon going on and on about how the only reason his group of thugs were there was to “educate” the local people pisses me off to no end.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:29:13pm

re: #471 lawhawk

There will superseding indictments that take into account every act, up through their arrest. The initial indictment is just the start.

Exactly.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:29:59pm

all bernie is doing is proposing that we consider policies that have worked well for decades in many other industrialized democracies

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lawhawk  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:30:05pm

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Bundy nuts theme song of the day (behind spoiler for potentially NSFW themes/images) - I’m Guilty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8S0_DppB14

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:30:17pm
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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:30:52pm

re: #473 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I do have to say that Ammon going on and on about how the only reason his group of thugs were there was to “educate” the local people pisses me off to no end.

Everyone else is stupid and uninformed. That’s why they brought guns…to edumacate the masses of fools and idiots. Not by force, but by love, as they strokejaculate their long ones - while pointed at those fools who don’t listen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:30:54pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:31:22pm

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If you’d wanted to be home, you should have stayed there, moron.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:31:56pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:32:02pm

re: #464 lawhawk

I call modified BS.

Variety had the story, in which the TLC execs were hammered by media during the look-sees for other shows. They mentioned only that the last couple of specials relating to the Duggars did well and that they might consider something down the road.

No promises of anything beyond that.

But imagine my shock that the Christian Post completely dropped any mention of Josh Duggar’s admissions of molesting his sisters/engaging in criminal acts against other girls, or the coverup by his parents in coordination with local law enforcement, and instead claimed the show stopped airing because of Josh being involved in Ashley Madison.

The fuckers at the Christian Post can’t even be honest about why the show was cancelled.

What happened to that thing you read about in Exodus 23:7, Proverbs 30:8

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Jay C  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:34:24pm

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

That isn’t Ammon Bundy in that shot, in the jacket and tie, is it?
A lawyer?

Can’t imagine Ammon spending his (presumably bailed out) time at the mens’ store and barber shop…..

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:35:03pm

re: #473 Backwoods_Sleuth

My paternal family were ranchers in Oregon.

My great-grandmother would have put a bullet in someone’s brain pan the first time they ripped up good fence to “open” the preserve. These are stupid, stupid, vain people.

These people know fuck all about ranching, preserving land *at all,* and they gave exactly zero shits about “locals” that aren’t already subscribers to their wacky ideas…as evidenced by their doublespeak at every single public event they attended.

Make no mistake, this talk of “returning” land was never sincere. Whatever they could grab, they’d “find” paper to justify handing it to allies. That’s what they do when they seize houses, commit fraud, or put liens on stuff—all of which, notably, have fuck all to do with “government” and everything to do with private property: muggles don’t get to own stuff the same way the double patriots do.

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EPR-radar  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:35:24pm

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

Federal terrorism laws are so broad that the Oregon idiots could face dozens of terror-related charges if the authorities ever start thinking along these lines.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:35:51pm

re: #483 Jay C

That isn’t Ammon Bundy in that shot, in the jacket and tie, is it?
A lawyer?

Can’t imagine Ammon spending his (presumably bailed out) time at the mens’ store and barber shop…..

No, those are his two lawyers.

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:36:33pm

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nothing says “family” like leaving your brother to twist in the wind with an overworked public defender while you hire yourself an attorney.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:38:46pm

The 154-year-old law under which Ammon Bundy and others were arrested this week was created to deal with a nation torn apart by war.

But it made sense for the armed occupiers who holed up at Oregon’s Malheur National Wildlife Refuge to be charged under the Civil-War era statute, experts say, because like the Confederates, the occupiers rejected federal power.

Really fascinating article.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:42:04pm

re: #442 lawhawk

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The Bundy nuts are going to go full metal sovereign citizen BS in the courts.

Bad for them; if they don’t present a valid defense they have no hope of avoiding prison.

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sagehen  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:42:22pm

Stephen Colbert: Bernie can’t be the only candidate with an ice cream..

cbs.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:42:24pm

re: #481 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JJ also had coffee probs today:

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:42:57pm

re: #489 Big Beautiful Door

Bad for them; if they don’t present a valid defense they have no hope of avoiding prison.

Downside?

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TedStriker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:44:28pm

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

WHY, MERCIFUL G-D????

We knew TLC might do this eventually, just as soon as the furor surrounding Josh died down, because it was too much of a cash cow for them as one of their cornerstone shows.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:44:33pm
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:46:29pm

re: #455 The Vicious Babushka

WHY, MERCIFUL G-D????

]

Because America has a Duggar problem.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:46:37pm

re: #480 Targetpractice

If you’d wanted to be home, you should have stayed there, moron.

Exactly. I can’t figure out if these idiots actually believed their own nonsense or if they’re just incapable of thinking ahead more than for 15 minutes at a time.

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Snarknado!  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:47:08pm

Back to the golden days of yore for a moment — I have a book on my shelf, “The Good old Days — They Were Terrible” (Bettmann) that I recommend. Lots of detail, and shows why we have and need the FDA and other blessings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:47:16pm

well, Ammon, you can say the same thing about LE. See how that ended up?

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:48:38pm

re: #489 Big Beautiful Door

Bad for them; if they don’t present a valid defense they have no hope of avoiding prison.

Yeah, but the good thing is it’ll show all of America just how truly swivel-eyed, bat guano crazy these so called “patriots” are.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:51:00pm

This from a guy who constantly whines about “microagressions” and “safe spaces” on college campuses.

He has to set up a safe space for himself where nobody challenges his premise that the commoners in the1500s were moar betterer Christians and had a sacramental view of time and space that those nominalist heathens n the Reformation stole from all of us DAMN YOU ENLIGHTENMENT!!!!

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:51:51pm

re: #430 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Except they totally did make this crap up.

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Tampering with documents? What? Her own emails?

Yeah…made up out of thin air.

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ChuckJager95  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:52:36pm

From the magazine article near the top of this page.

I’m pretty sure I’m done internetting for the day.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:54:33pm

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

JJ also had coffee probs today:

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Heh, several months ago I bought one of the AeroPress things for my coffee. I love it, but I’ve learned to be really careful about checking to make sure I put a filter in AND tightly screwed in the plastic thingy that hold the filter in. Nothing grabs your attention like flipping the damned thing over and ending up with hot coffee and hot coffee grinds all over you, your cup, whatever the cup is sitting on, and the floor.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:57:34pm

re: #502 ChuckJager95

Yosemite Sam? Elmer Fudd? Tom and Jerry?

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:59:17pm

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

My paper called them “protesters”.

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Timothy Watson  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:59:23pm

re: #502 ChuckJager95

Embedded Image

From the magazine article near the top of this page.

I’m pretty sure I’m done internetting for the day.

Shouldn’t he be whining about political correctness and the lack of guns in most modern cartoons? The Spider-Man series back in the ’90s was censored as hell by Fox.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:59:43pm

re: #502 ChuckJager95

Guess he watched a different Bugs Bunny than I did. There were plenty of cartoon shooting, especially when Daffy & Elmer were around. Case in point:

Hunting Season

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Franklin  Jan 28, 2016 • 12:59:53pm

Christ, has he watched Bugs Bunny or Tom n Jerry lately? Or is he misremembering the days of yore? That was some violent and racist shit.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 1:02:31pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 1:05:32pm

re: #508 Franklin

Christ, has he watched Bugs Bunny or Tom n Jerry lately? Or is he misremembering the days of yore? That was some violent and racist shit.

Some of the more anti Japanese WW2 racial stuff has been cleansed out of the compilations. They definitely were violent (in a slapstick way ftmp). Some of the sexual innuendo that I did not get as a kid floored me when I saw it as an adult. They really did get away with a lot in the old Warner Bros cartoons.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 28, 2016 • 1:16:58pm

re: #463 A Mom Anon

And another thing….

What the hell is up with the military cosplay and stolen valor shit with these asshats? Yes, I know, some of them were in one of our service branches at some point or other. It just seems to be a sort of pattern emerging. They’re creating these manly personas which are in turn just feeding their “patriotic” delusions. There really is a break here, something is really broken in a lot of these people. Those who have served need to push back on these fools, intimidate the fuck out of them, it’s the only message they understand. I don’t like seeing violence, don’t want it, am not advocating for it. But sometimes being nice doesn’t do a good job of fixing things and we have to be a bit fucking hostile to make the bullshit stop. I am so sick of this nonsense. GAH.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 3:32:52pm

re: #330 lawhawk

And sometimes employers stack the deck to make sure even if you are well qualified you won’t get the foot in the door by hiring attorneys who tell you how to not hire US citizens in order to hire H1-B labor.


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