GOP Debate: Without Trump, Is It Still a Clown Show?

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One of the very few times you’ll see LGF linking to Fox News without exposing a comment thread full of outright virulent racism is when they’re hosting a GOP debate. This differs from the aforementioned comment threads because the racism is thinly veiled in the debate, instead of overt.

Donald Trump is infamously boycotting this clown show because he hates Megyn Kelly so much. Is that a reason to watch? Well, I’m kind of suffering from GOP debate PTSD but I’m going to watch just to see how pathetically weak the other candidates look without the billionaire alpha dog to snarl at them and spur them on.

Meanwhile, here’s how Ted Cruz is preparing to discuss issues of international importance:

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347 comments
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:53:44pm

MP3 Audio

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:55:35pm

… I’m so conflicted… whatever shall I do?

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:55:37pm

Will any speak the name of that which is not present?

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:56:20pm

Trumpers pumping their fists… probably at a protester…..

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:56:40pm

re: #3 nines09

Will any speak the name of that which is not present?

Dumbledore had strong opinions on that subject.

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Mattand  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:57:14pm
GOP Debate: Without Trump, Is It Still a Clown Show?

Yes.

Next question.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:58:29pm

Without Trump around to steal his thunder, we get to see how batshit insane Ted Cruz really is.

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:58:56pm

Anyone going to watch Trump?

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:59:26pm
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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 5:59:49pm

re: #8 Jenner7

Anyone going to watch Trump?

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:00:06pm

Hmm…watch the Insane Clown Posse on Fox…or catch up on Steven Universe…

Decisions, decisions…

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:01:43pm

re: #10 darthstar

My Mom was so upset they are showing Trump, she called MSNBC. lol She loves Rachel and she’ll be damned if they are going to interrupt her show.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:01:47pm

From the press conference, they did deploy something similar to pepper spray after the shooting.

It was relatively clear that he was reaching for his jacket.

About ten minutes to feel they were confident they had the situation under control before they provided medical assistance.

Three other loaded weapons in the truck, in addition to the one he had on him.

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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:01:58pm
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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:02:45pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Hmm…watch the Insane Clown Posse on Fox…or catch up on Steven Universe…

Decisions, decisions…

Washing dishes has more appeal than the other options.

American Idol on in the background. I’d prefer teen drama. At least that’s authentic. More so than any of these GOP clowns.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:02:47pm

There will be no debate drinking game, because our livers don’t deserve that level of abuse.

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:02:59pm

Oh boy, this is going to be AWFUL!

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:03:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:03:15pm
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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:03:21pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Hmm…watch the Insane Clown Posse on Fox…or catch up on Steven Universe…

Decisions, decisions…

The latter…or I will cut you.

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Brian J.  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:03:27pm

re: #5 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

Dumbledore had strong opinions on that subject.

Does not apply in this case. (During Deathly Hallows, Voldemort cast a spell cast so that anyone saying You-Know-Who would come to his attention.)

And the first person to mention Trumpy Dumpy is the moderator, in her first question. A long night this will be.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:03:27pm

Right out of the gates: “Take some swings at the empty space!”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:03:38pm

Nine people have left the refuge since the roadblocks were established.

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:03:52pm

Hey! It’s Frank Underwood!

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Brian J.  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:04:17pm

Mr. Cross, no state with six electoral votes is “fly-to” country.

And we already knew you were a maniac.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:04:38pm

… lots of meaningless Google stats…

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:05:02pm

Fox stream is buffering… not as good as Trump stream…

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:05:27pm

Paulbots in crowd…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:06:03pm
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:06:05pm

Trumpers seem to be having a problem…

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nines09  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:06:06pm

Nope. Don’t care. Do not give a rabid rats ass. Seen all I needs to see, heard all I needs to hear. The rest is window dressing. Fuck them all. Each. And. Every. Single. One. Twice. Goodnight and fare thee well. Out.

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Brian J.  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:06:30pm

Mr. Cross, if you think your record should be the focus, then explain why a guy with three years in elective office and who has alienated literally everyone he’s met in that time deserves even cursory attention.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:07:05pm

Rubio gulped his usual handfuls of uppers.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:07:08pm

Thirsty Rubio on Red Bull again.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:07:08pm
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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:07:15pm

Someone please remind Marco Rubio that Obama isn’t running again.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:07:17pm

Rubio-bot seems to be running on OS 2.1: “I’m not Hillary!”

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:07:41pm

“my dad to preach at your churches…” - not going to be as big a pop as hoped.

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451_Montag  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:07:56pm

Rubio… Random words, Obama bad, yadda yadda, gibber gibber hatstand.

I can’t listen to him

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:08:15pm
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Brian J.  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:08:34pm

Jeb goes with the Dean Scream on training wheels. Maybe there will be a more full-throated version later.

Jeb calls his dad the greatest man alive. This version of Jeb might have done some damage a year ago.

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451_Montag  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:08:49pm

And JEB preternds he has a personality

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:08:54pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:09:39pm

re: #36 Lidane

Someone please remind Marco Rubio that Obama isn’t running again.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:09:47pm

How did that small moon get so close to the stage…oh, that’s just Chris Christie.

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:10:06pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart

Disturbing to watch…

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Brian J.  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:10:25pm

re: #44 The Vicious Babushka

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$2.50? Here, gas is $1.45 a gallon.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:10:41pm

Re: the video… Holy shit. For anybody who didn’t see it:

Finnicum running away from the first roadblock is true. When they’re first stopped, I did see for a moment that he had his hands out the window, but after the Bundy brother got out, he did speed away.

Their SUV was hauling ass and plowed right into deep snow right next to the roadblock, and the agent narrating was right, Finnicum just barely missed an agent/cop.

Then Finnicum gets out and he’s clearly on an adrenaline spike, yelling, and was getting ready to shoot. I think if he had better footing in the snow and had only one LEO near him instead of two, he would have gotten shots off. LEO dropped him QUICK because you can see even from the airborne video that he had committed to pulling his gun, inside his jacket on the left.

He had at least a half minute or so on his back in the snow to come to terms. It wasn’t fun to watch.

Interestingly, the accounts about the truck being gassed and shot repeatedly are true, because the agents threw flash-bangs and shot pepper rounds into the SUV after Finnicum was shot.

Left out of the martyrdom narrative is that there was plenty of daylight and the truck was buried up to the windows in snowdrift.

Edit: OK, I didn’t see the FBI had the full video up that fast, so no need to read my summary.

I was amused hearing an FBI agent say “You can view the whole video on our Youtube channel.” I know everybody has one these days, but c’mon, it’s the FBI. LOL.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:10:43pm

I have to self-censor so many of the zingers that occur to me when I watch these debates.

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jaunte  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:10:43pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

He forgot to bring a mop.

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451_Montag  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:10:44pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

How did that small moon get so close to the stage…oh, that’s just Chris Christie.

Why does he keep pointing at me?

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:11:00pm

re: #47 Brian J.

$2.50? Here, gas is $1.45 a gallon.

$1.59/gal here. Was actually gobsmacked last night when I saw it that low.

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:11:09pm

Rand Paul must be overjoyed The Donald is sitting this one out. “I’m back with the big boys!”

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:11:31pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

Don’t suppress, let your spirit free to fly.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:11:57pm

re: #46 Jenner7

Disturbing to watch…

It does show the death, but it’s not graphic in the normal sense we think of.

It also shows the situation leading up to this, and his movements are consistent with what the police have said so far - that he was reaching for a gun, that was in his pocket, loaded.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:12:07pm

re: #53 BongCrodny

Rand Paul must be overjoyed The Donald is sitting this one out. “I’m back with the big boys!”

He’s there because he’s gotten a small bump in the polls.

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:13:04pm

re: #55 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I agree, just hard to watch.

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:13:34pm

re: #51 451_Montag

Why does he keep pointing at me?

He’s singling you out so that later on, he can remind you that he was a former federal prosecutor.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:13:34pm

Marco checks “Rebuild military” box off his debate checklist.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:14:10pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

Marco checks “Rebuild military” box off his debate checklist.

It’ll be back. America must rule the world, sez PNAC.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:14:20pm

Looks to me like Finnicum was trying to draw, and he damned near killed an agent when he went into the snow. I thought he actually did hit the guy.

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Great White Snark  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:15:34pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart

Hands up and then pretty clearly drew or reached for a handgun from waist…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:15:53pm

re: #57 Jenner7

I agree, just hard to watch.

The people I have the most sympathy for in this case are the police officers who had to pull the trigger. While I’m sure there are those for whom it wouldn’t be a problem (and I would argue those are the ones who shouldn’t be officers), I’m equally sure there are those for whom this is a traumatic experience that they hope never to deal with.

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KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:16:12pm

re: #11 Targetpractice

Hmm…watch the Insane Clown Posse on Fox…or catch up on Steven Universe…

Decisions, decisions…

The real ICP is probably offended by the comparison to these amateurs. And they’re probably in the running for the most reasonable guests to ever appear on O’Reilly:

Video

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:16:24pm

PNAC talking…

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:17:21pm

Ben reminding us that he’s a surgeon.

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:17:26pm
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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:18:09pm

“You’ve landed a lot of planes in the O.R.”

Jesus, Mike Wallace must be spinning in his grave tonight.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:19:05pm

re: #61 Aunty Entity Dragon

Looks to me like Finnicum was trying to draw, and he damned near killed an agent when he went into the snow. I thought he actually did hit the guy.

re: #62 Great White Snark

Hands up and then pretty clearly drew or reached for a handgun from waist…

Might be wise for FBI/LE to allow press to see Finicum’s truck, to show it is not riddled with “hundreds” of bullet holes

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:19:29pm

Trump on ….

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:19:53pm

Cruz doesn’t tell the truth, the ship reductions are very long term planned.

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Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:20:10pm

We used carpet bombing in the First Iraq War because A) we didn’t have JDAMs and B) our enemy was largely in armored vehicle that moved in groups!

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:20:12pm

ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS! ISIS!

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:20:19pm

Here’s Rubio with the PNAC rationale for invading everyone in the Middle East.

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:20:45pm

ISIS is the most dangerous jihadi group of all time? Really?

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Great White Snark  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:21:03pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

Might be wise for FBI/LE to allow press to see Finicum’s truck, to show it is not riddled with “hundreds” of bullet holes

Might be marked up from the flash bangs but yeah very different than say the Dorner manhunt newspaper delivery truck.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:21:34pm

Trump - ” this is like the Academy Awards..”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:22:07pm

He could have lived, even after every stupid thing he did up to getting out of the truck. He made a decision and it was the wrong one. You can see it in the video, he’s got several seconds where he’s stumbling and his hands are out, and he commits to the draw, but he can’t get the gun out, and that’s it. He wasn’t trying to surrender, he just couldn’t get the gun out.

He got a generous amount of time to NOT try to pull his 9mm on armed federal agents. He used that time poorly.

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451_Montag  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:03pm

Safter Romney’s ass kicking I’m a bit surprised that they are quoting numbers of ships and planes

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:07pm

Trump - “we raised close to $6 million…”

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:22pm

re: #75 bratwurst

ISIS is the most dangerous jihadi group of all time? Really?

Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn Yūsuf ibn Ayyūb, circa 1180 CE on the phone, line 2.

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:38pm

These assholes are acting like our Air Force is nothing but a fleet of Sopwith Camels and a few Spruce Geese and our soldiers are fighting with pop guns and firecrackers.

We spend more than the next dozen countries COMBINED on our military and we’re somehow weak? Bitch plz.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:54pm

“Carl Icahn gave $500,000…”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:23:58pm

re: #78 Pawn of the Oppressor

He could have lived, even after every stupid thing he did up to getting out of the truck. He made a decision and it was the wrong one. You can see it in the video, he’s got several seconds where he’s stumbling and his hands are out, and he commits to the draw, but he can’t get the gun out, and that’s it. He wasn’t trying to surrender, he just couldn’t get the gun out.

He got a generous amount of time to NOT try to pull his 9mm on armed federal agents. He used that time poorly.

Like the FBI agent giving the conference pointed out, the truck sat for 4 minutes after the initial stop before speeding off to the road block - and one of the occupants surrendered just fine. They were doing everything they could for a peaceful resolution - and barring that, a well documented one. Apparently there were two planes in the air for this.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:24:07pm

Just flipped over to MSNBC to check…so they ARE showing The Donald Lump show.

Blah. Back to basketball…

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:24:21pm

“Donald Trump gave one million dollars…”

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:24:37pm

re: #78 Pawn of the Oppressor

He could have lived, even after every stupid thing he did up to getting out of the truck. He made a decision and it was the wrong one. You can see it in the video, he’s got several seconds where he’s stumbling and his hands are out, and he commits to the draw, but he can’t get the gun out, and that’s it. He wasn’t trying to surrender, he just couldn’t get the gun out.

He got a generous amount of time to NOT try to pull his 9mm on armed federal agents. He used that time poorly.

Yep, he struggles to get the gun out, didn’t realize he had a agent coming out of the woods along with agents behind him.

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Skip Intro  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:24:52pm

re: #80 freetoken

Trump - “we raised close to $6 million…”

“For me.”

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:25:05pm

Hmmm….a root canal or a total hip replacement…root canal or total hip replacement.

Having trouble deciding this one, fellers.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:25:29pm

… shouting down protester…

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:26:08pm

TRUMP!!!! CHYNA!!!!!

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:26:19pm

The Fox stream is a few minutes behind the broadcast, I think.

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:26:36pm

re: #87 Aunty Entity Dragon

didn’t realize he had a agent coming out of the woods along with agents behind him

UNPOSSIBLE! Guns give people magical powers and total situational awareness.

////

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:27:21pm

Watched the video. Takes off after sitting there for minutes. He reached down twice to get to the gun. Didn’t see the guy in the woods.

Did he never watch an episode of Cops? Did he think he was going to get away?

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:27:37pm

“What we need is someone tough and tested with a 31% approval rating.”

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KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:27:51pm

re: #82 Lidane

This is something I’ve never understood. Not only do we spend more than the next dozen countries combined, ten of those countries are our allies. Depending on the metric you use, we either double or triple up Russia and China COMBINED! And while Putin might be willing to consider a proxy war with us, China isn’t going to pick a fight with us because if they couldn’t trade with us, their economy would tank.

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KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:28:38pm

re: #95 BongCrodny

“What we need is someone tough and tested with a 31% approval rating.”

Doesn’t really narrow it down with this group, does it?

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:28:54pm

Jeez, what a pandering dick. Feeding Jeb! a line like that so he can come off as holier-than-though righteous about his brother. Fucking shameful.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:29:49pm

re: #64 KGxvi

Probably the most honest guests on the O’lieley Factor ever.

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:29:50pm

Wow, Ted Cruz is a loathsome man.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:29:57pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart

Might be wise for FBI/LE to allow press to see Finicum’s truck, to show it is not riddled with “hundreds” of bullet holes

The last time in history that famous outlaws were shot to death on a country road by Federal agents, they DID show the car riddled with dozens of holes… To schoolchildren. As a message. Remember kids, don’t be like Bonnie and Clyde. Stay in school!

(I have visited both the ambush site and the elementary school in question. I work with, and have met, two people who’s grandparents were students at the school that day, and remember being shown the car).

We’ve come a long way from setting up a murder ambush with Colt Monitors and no witnesses. The guys who confronted Finnicum didn’t even have rifles, they were armed with handguns only, and they were actually firing towards their own barricade line.

They really did do everything reasonable to keep things non-inflammatory. Finnicum bears the responsibility for being shot.

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:30:06pm

Oh poor Ted…

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451_Montag  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:30:20pm

I still think Jeb@%&££& is a playaaaar in this. They all hate Cruz, so much.

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thecommodore  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:30:24pm

Please Ted. Leave the stage. And the campaign. Maybe even the planet.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:30:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:07pm
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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:10pm

Kill! Kill! Kill!

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:18pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Rubio-bot seems to be running on OS 2.1: “I’m not Hillary!”

Is there really a Marc Rubio? That guy defines empty suit.

“Whatever you tell me to say boss.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:42pm
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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:31:56pm

re: #100 bratwurst

Wow, Ted Cruz is a loathsome man.

There’s a reason he’s universally despised by the GOP power brokers.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:32:59pm

I kind of wish the FBI would turn comments on for the video. They might gather some great intel.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:33:02pm

re: #89 BongCrodny

A myelogram where the injection site doesn’t close.

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:34:18pm

re: #113 Eric The Fruit Bat

A myelogram where the injection site doesn’t close.

Ew.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:34:20pm

re: #100 bratwurst

I fear Cruz more than I fear Trump.

And the ultimate Armageddon scenario is a Trump/Cruz ticket.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:35:17pm
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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:35:36pm
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Sionainn  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:35:44pm

Hate to tell you, Rubio, you have no chance of being president.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:35:52pm

re: #94 Belafon

Watched the video. Takes off after sitting there for minutes. He reached down twice to get to the gun. Didn’t see the guy in the woods.

Did he never watch an episode of Cops? Did he think he was going to get away?

Not the brightest bulbs on the planet. Even kids who steal flavored cigars know better.

Didn’t see the agent in the woods, failed to assess his situation, reacted poorly, and even when he decided to start shooting he couldn’t get his gun out.

Everybody who carries a gun, no matter which side of the law they’re on, has at least read on the internet that you should practice your draw and be able to use your equipment under stress and non-optimal physical situations. That’s the whole point. If you need a gun, it’s not going to be while sitting at your desk reading Facebook. There are even games for grown men where you practice this.

Even when they talk shit, they don’t have anything to back it up. There’s got to be a condition in the DSM that explains what a bunch of fucking adrenal-charged rubes these guys are. “SMH” as the kids say.

And you know, judging by his body language… I see a lot more “Do you want a piece of me?!” than I do “I’m trying to surrender”. Martyr, my pale white ass.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:36:10pm

Paul is getting some air time with Trump out of the room.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:36:34pm

Shuckabee and Sanctimonius just arrived at the Trump gathering…

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:36:41pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

I have to self-censor so many of the zingers that occur to me when I watch these debates.

Please don’t!

The more fun Lizard comments the better for us not watching tonight. I get to use my imagination (boy, do I have one) and that makes it way better.

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:36:42pm

re: #115 Eric The Fruit Bat

I fear Cruz more than I fear Trump.

And the ultimate Armageddon scenario is a Trump/Cruz ticket.

I don’t think you have to worry about a Trump/Cruz ticket, but I agree…Cruz is a MUCH more dangerous man than Trump.

The Rand cheering section needs to chill out. They can’t hoot and holler his number over 3%.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:37:19pm

re: #114 BongCrodny

Ah-yep. Been there, done that. Needed a blood patch to cure the cerebrospinal fluid leaking out when I raised my head, giving me the mother of all fucking headaches.

Hopefully, that procedure went out ages ago.

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thecommodore  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:38:03pm

Political correctness - drink!

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:38:17pm

re: #78 Pawn of the Oppressor

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:38:32pm

POLITICAL CORRECTNESS WILL KILL US ALL!!!!!11!!!

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CuriousLurker  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:38:34pm

OT: As requested downstairs by Bubblehead, here are some of the “No Soliciting” signs That were funny/snarky:

Grumpy Cat

Hell Hounds

Thin Mints

Too broke, found Jesus…

Wine, laundry…

British, Handsome…

Biker Occupant

Giant Spiders

G’nite, lizards. ;-)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:39:43pm

Megyn Kelly’s fake eyelashes are trying to eat her cheekbones.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:40:06pm

Nothing yet from Fox on domestic American terrorism.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:40:52pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:40:56pm

Zombie Reagan! Drink!

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:41:07pm

A co-worker from Ohio is currently rolling his eyes at Kasich.

Also, what the fuck does any of this have to do with domestic terror?

134
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:41:22pm

Why do those on the stage sound like the nuts out in Oregon?

135
Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:42:12pm

re: #130 freetoken

Nothing yet from Fox on domestic American terrorism.

There is no right wing terrorism there is only ZHUL!!!!

136
Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:42:19pm
137
darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:42:29pm

So…

138
Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:42:39pm

re: #134 freetoken

Why do those on the stage sound like the nuts out in Oregon?

Because their voting base consists of the nuts in Oregon…

139
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:42:51pm

Something just popped into my mind. There’s a theory that when voting for president one of the reasons likability and trustworthiness are important is because voters, on some level, consider whether they want to see this person on a daily basis. If you watch the news (whether national, local, or cable) or read the newspaper or blogs, you’re probably going to hear or see the president on pretty much a daily basis. So, my question is, do voters really want to see one of these people every day for the next four years? I can’t imagine that there’s a large portion of the population that would be okay with seeing/hearing Trump daily for four years.

140
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:43:04pm
141
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:43:05pm

Jeb! gets a question about the Wounded Warrior Project’s lavish spending and turns it into a rant about the VA. Unbelievable.

142
ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:43:44pm

re: #104 thecommodore

Please Ted. Leave the stage. And the campaign. Maybe even the planet.

Imma all for that!

143
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:43:53pm

Kasich - “I was there”!

144
Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:44:07pm

re: #126 Aunty Entity Dragon

Good point.

145
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:44:51pm

Wow, a decent question about Ferguson and body cameras. I can’t believe they let that through.

146
Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:45:04pm

Stopped clock time…Rand Paul says something reasonable.

147
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:45:04pm

Rand almost sounded human in his Ferguson answer. Too bad he’s such a raging douche.

148
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:45:25pm

re: #138 Aunty Entity Dragon

Because their voting base consists of the nuts in Oregon…

Actually, since they will soon be convicted felons, those nuts in Oregon will have their right to vote revoked…

149
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:45:27pm

The online Fox stream seems to be a full 5 minutes behind the cable-cast.

150
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:46:00pm

So I’m probably out of sync with most of you.

151
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:46:19pm

re: #140 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

“I release my voter. Fly, little one, fly!”

152
gocart mozart  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:46:46pm

This is just sad.

153
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:47:05pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Go with it!

Hashtag it!

Dr. Who it!
Youtube Video
(3:26)

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:47:12pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

Megyn Kelly, shuttin’ Kasich down like a boss.

The clowns are getting restless.
9:34 PM - 28 Jan 2016

Do tell. Ohio wants to know.

(There will be video at the Columbus Dispatch later)

155
WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:48:54pm

re: #119 Pawn of the Oppressor

Not the brightest bulbs on the planet. Even kids who steal flavored cigars know better.

Didn’t see the agent in the woods, failed to assess his situation, reacted poorly, and even when he decided to start shooting he couldn’t get his gun out.

Everybody who carries a gun, no matter which side of the law they’re on, has at least read on the internet that you should practice your draw and be able to use your equipment under stress and non-optimal physical situations. That’s the whole point. If you need a gun, it’s not going to be while sitting at your desk reading Facebook. There are even games for grown men where you practice this.

Even when they talk shit, they don’t have anything to back it up. There’s got to be a condition in the DSM that explains what a bunch of fucking adrenal-charged rubes these guys are. “SMH” as the kids say.

And you know, judging by his body language… I see a lot more “Do you want a piece of me?!” than I do “I’m trying to surrender”. Martyr, my pale white ass.

That’s exactly what that ABC show showed. After training(!), the people could not get their weapons out quickly enough to do anything but get killed.

In this case, thankfully, he didn’t.

These days people think they’re stars of Call of Duty when they’re closer to Howdy Doody.

156
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:48:55pm

Something’s wrong with the universe when the Paul on the stage seems like the most reasonable one…

157
Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:48:59pm

re: #146 Aunty Entity Dragon

Stopped clock time…Rand Paul says something reasonable.

I think the term for the Paul’s is “Five minute rule.”

158
thecommodore  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:49:04pm

Planned Parenthood - drink!

159
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:49:10pm

gdf is doing an excellent job of finding the idiots on Twitter who want to insist that he was shot in the back with his hands up.

160
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:49:31pm

Rather modest applause there for revoking Planned Parenthood funding.

161
goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:49:31pm

White contrarian bros are already telling me the video doesn’t show what it plainly shows.

162
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:49:32pm

re: #126 Aunty Entity Dragon

[Embedded content]

Indeed. He got twice as long as any black kid we’ve ever heard of.

If it was the agent coming out of the woods that shot him (it’s hard to tell), the agent was shooting left-handed and off-balance in knee-deep snow with a small gun. Looks like good shooting. I hope the investigation releases their findings to the public.

I wonder if the Bundy in the SUV was hurt by the chemical and stun rounds instead of bullets. It doesn’t look like there was a lot of gunfire.

163
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:49:46pm

Christie saw thousands and thousands of fetuses being murdered?? Wow.

164
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:50:21pm

“America is the greatest thing to happen to this planet in its history…” - Trumpbot.

165
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:51:04pm

It’s difficult to listen to two events at the same time while writting posts…

166
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:51:04pm

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

I DENY YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN. CHECKMATE, TOOL OF THE STATE!!!1

167
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:52:11pm

re: #164 freetoken

“America is the greatest thing to happen to this planet in its history…” - Trumpbot.

“Fuck you.”

- The Romans

168
ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:53:02pm

re: #139 KGxvi

Something just popped into my mind. There’s a theory that when voting for president one of the reasons likability and trustworthiness are important is because voters, on some level, consider whether they want to see this person on a daily basis. If you watch the news (whether national, local, or cable) or read the newspaper or blogs, you’re probably going to hear or see the president on pretty much a daily basis. So, my question is, do voters really want to see one of these people every day for the next four years? I can’t imagine that there’s a large portion of the population that would be okay with seeing/hearing Trump daily for four years.

Well…they do watch FOX News R.E.L.I.G.I.O.U.S.L.Y!

RELIGIOUSLY

169
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:53:41pm

re: #164 freetoken

When the history of the early 21st century is written, this quote will be used to lead into an explanation of the Spartan-Roman-Persian-Sino alliance.

170
goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:54:08pm

re: #159 klys (maker of Silmarils)

gdf is doing an excellent job of finding the idiots on Twitter who want to insist that he was shot in the back with his hands up.

This shit is my mutant superpower.

171
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:54:46pm

re: #168 ObserverArt

I’m thinking more general election than primary. But maybe I misunderestimate my fellow Americans.

172
ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:55:35pm

re: #150 freetoken

So I’m probably out of sync with most of you.

(Big smile)

173
goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:55:44pm

Fuckin Langdale man. I thought, maybe, that he’d somehow navigate his way out of his own asshole after his falling out with ChuckCJohnson. But no, he’s just as unstable and fucktarded as ever.

174
Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:56:14pm

The shooting scene occurs between 9:20-9:40.

175
Feline Fearless Leader  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:56:45pm

Trying to lose a little weight.

limiting myself to only one piece of chocolate per day…

Having a company 3-day IT conference at Hershey, PA did not help.

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:58:14pm

re: #175 Feline Fearless Leader

Trying to lose a little weight.

[Embedded content]

Having a company 3-day IT conference at Hershey, PA did not help.

You could say that if you don’t buy it, you’ve lost a pound anyway.

177
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:58:40pm

P.R. question is a quiet dog whistle.

178
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:58:49pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Assholes don’t bother to move to the next few seconds in the vid.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:59:28pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

This shit is my mutant superpower.

[Embedded content]

I’d ask for a refund.

180
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 6:59:38pm

“something you’ve never seen before” - an accurate question on terrorism?

181
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:00:02pm

re: #175 Feline Fearless Leader

Milk chocolate? DARK chocolate. Won’t touch that diluted shit.

182
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:00:33pm

“Amnesty!”
“No, blanket amnesty!”
“Amnesty!”
“No, blanket amnesty!”

183
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:00:37pm

re: #180 freetoken

I’m rooting for a presidential feat of strength challenge. But I’m prepared to be disappointed by it actually being something we see all the time.

184
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:01:22pm

Umm…was there some plan to hire 20,000 new IRS agents I didn’t hear about?

I better get to the bank.

185
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:01:46pm

I’m watching the rest of it now, and the other people in the SUV all had to walk out past Lavoy’s dead body with lasers painting them. Brutal. They are definitely going to need some PTSD counseling down the road.

186
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:02:09pm

re: #181 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yes. Dark Chocolate is the best. Hands down.

187
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:02:31pm

And has any one of those fucks said anything about the Flint water fuckup?

Me bad, sorry for asking…..

188
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:02:54pm

re: #184 BongCrodny

I’d need to check my wingnut-to-reality dictionary, but I think that’s an old talking point because ZOMG OBUMMERCARE IZ GONNA BE INFURRCED BY TEH EYE ARE ESS11!1!

189
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:03:31pm

re: #181 Eric The Fruit Bat

Milk chocolate? DARK chocolate. Won’t touch that diluted shit.

190
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:03:59pm

re: #187 Eric The Fruit Bat

Kasich said he didn’t have all the info on it.

191
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:04:02pm

re: #187 Eric The Fruit Bat

And has any one of those fucks said anything about the Flint water fuckup?

Me bad, sorry for asking…..

“Sorry bro, we used up all our inquisition funds on Benghazi. It is what it is!”

192
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:04:51pm

Okay, I’m recasting “Animal House” here.

I’ve got Chris Christie as Bluto, Marco Rubio as Pinto, Jeb! as Dean Vernon Werner…

193
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:05:00pm

Rubio - “fencing” - I think he means “Wall”.

194
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:05:51pm

Bush - “I’m kind of confused…” - we know Jeb!, that’s the problem.

195
Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:06:54pm
196
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:08:28pm

Jeff Sessions has gotten more name checks tonight than he’s gotten in at least six years.

197
ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:10:35pm

re: #190 Jenner7

Kasich said he didn’t have all the info on it.

How convenient. I think I have heard him say that before. Usually about something he does not want to talk about.

Do Not Buy.

198
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:10:58pm

Christie: I’ll bring a mop to Washington….

199
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:12:10pm

“We all love immigrants.”

Feel the love.

200
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:12:36pm

Carson is incoherent. What the fuck.

201
Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:12:44pm

re: #186 Jenner7

#allchocolatematters

202
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:12:50pm

Q: “Immigrants entrepreneurs are feeling unloved, why should we vote for you?”

Carson: “Let me talk about ISIS…”

203
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:16:28pm

Trump has declared victory, exits stage right.

204
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:16:33pm
205
thecommodore  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:17:18pm
206
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:17:40pm

“I’m running hard…”

Keep it in your pants, Jeb.

207
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:17:44pm

Jeb! - “…entrepreneur of the Youtube…”

208
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:17:46pm

From nakedcapitalism.com, links 1/28/2015, on the East Coast Caribou Ken’s beheading for drug dealers:

Paul LePage Floats Idea of Publicly Beheading Drug Dealers With Guillotine New York Magazine (resilc). As sadistic-looking as the results are, we have not improved over the guillotine in terms of immediate (therefore no unnecessary suffering) pretty fail safe ways of killing people. Separately, I want to have a mini guillotine business. They could be the Pet Rocks of Christmas 2016. You have kitchen sized ones, say big enough to cut a grapefruit or a carrot. But how do you get the force on such a short run to cut a carrot? The physics don’t work very well scaled down. Plus image the liability with kids who decide to play with them.

C’mon, lizards-I think we could come up with something both micro and macro…..

209
Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:17:48pm

re: #205 thecommodore

210
thecommodore  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:18:35pm

Rubio: JAYSUS!

211
Timothy Watson  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:18:51pm

re: #181 Eric The Fruit Bat

Milk chocolate? DARK chocolate. Won’t touch that diluted shit.

ELITIST!

212
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:19:13pm

re: #205 thecommodore

Seems to be the consensus in the office.

Also universal groans around the office at Rubio’s pandering when he talked about Jesus being the only Savior.

213
Teukka  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:19:16pm

re: #211 Timothy Watson

ELITIST!

75%+ FTW.

214
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:19:19pm

Oh, good Lord.

215
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:19:31pm

BENGHAZI! DRINK!

216
goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:19:35pm

It’s fuckwits galore!

217
bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:19:36pm

Rubio doing the Benghazi boogaloo!

218
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:19:39pm

re: #209 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

219
Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:20:51pm

They’re all horrible, in their own horrible ways.

220
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:20:56pm

Your state has also had its credit rating downgraded repeatedly and has a budget that’s only kept above water by raiding pensions.

221
goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:21:20pm

Cognitive bias on fleek.

222
Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:21:31pm

WTF are these black women doing on the stage stumping for Trumpenstein?

Somewhat more coherent than Palin.
223
William Lewis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:22:03pm

re: #181 Eric The Fruit Bat

Milk chocolate? DARK chocolate. Won’t touch that diluted shit.

Feh on that nasty bitter tasting waste of cocoa.

Good Swiss milk chocolate remains the best.

224
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:22:16pm

Did you guys know that Chris Christie was a former federal prosecutor? AND that he’s going to prosecute Hillary?

225
Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:22:43pm

re: #223 William Lewis

#whitechocolatecide

226
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:23:01pm

re: #222 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

WTF are these black women doing on the stage stumping for Trumpenstein?

[Embedded content]

They produce videos for Trump.

227
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:23:32pm

GOP debates should come with a health warning: “Not to be watched while sober.”

228
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:24:37pm

re: #223 William Lewis

Swiss? I’m half-Dutch. Droste or nothing else.

229
retired cynic  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:24:55pm

My opinion, worth exactly what you are paying for it, is that Finicum acted precisely like someone would who wanted to commit suicide by cop.

230
No Country For Old Haters  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:25:09pm

re: #166 Pawn of the Oppressor

I DENY YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN. CHECKMATE, TOOL OF THE STATE!!!1

I guess this is how the nuts are going to spin it.

The reality is that if you threaten the police, let them know you have guns and do not intend to be taken alive, then go for a gun, they will put you right down, and you won’t even see it coming. This isn’t an old west gunfight.

The assholes who are so upset with this are totally cool with unarmed black kids getting shot.

231
Stanley Sea  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:25:14pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

They’re all horrible, in their own horrible ways.

I’m just peeking into the thread. At least I’m seeing the GOP debate v. Trump’s repeat of his trash speech.

232
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:25:19pm

Iowans are evangelicals? The hell you say!

/////

233
WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:25:25pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

GOP debates should come with a health warning: “Not to be watched while sober.”

“Severe liver damage may occur if you take more than one every three months.”

234
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:25:31pm

So, Christie wins the catchy phrase award.

235
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:25:33pm

The President doesn’t decide who to prosecute, Christie. As a “prosecutor”, you should know that.

236
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:26:07pm

re: #229 retired cynic

Even a Fox News analyst agreed with that. Can’t get more right-wing vetted than that.

237
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:26:14pm

re: #223 William Lewis

Feh on that nasty bitter tasting waste of cocoa.

Good Swiss milk chocolate remains the best.

Best chocolate I’ve ever had came from the middle east, made with camel’s milk.

238
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:26:56pm

re: #235 Jenner7

The President doesn’t decide who to prosecute, Christie. As a “prosecutor”, you should know that.

Shorter Christie: “HILLARY WON’T GET WITHIN TEN MILES OF TEH WHITE HOUSE! I’LL CLOSE EVERY BRIDGE IN MURICA IF I HAVE TO!”

239
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:28:51pm

Christie has managed to turn a question about Kim Davis into an answer about ISIS.

What the fuck.

240
retired cynic  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:29:40pm

re: #237 KGxvi

Best chocolate I’ve ever had came from the middle east, made with camel’s milk.

That joy awaits me, but I’ve heard from a ME friend that camel milk in cooking is the wonderful.

241
KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:29:49pm

re: #239 Lidane

I’m guessing he wasn’t doing so in order to draw parallels between Islamists and Christianists?

242
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:29:56pm

“Judeo-Christian values!”

DRINK!

243
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:30:12pm

Hey! If these guys are so patriotic, how come they wear their flags on their LEFT lapels? Huh? Huh?

244
Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:30:46pm

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Yet they also share a common horribleness.

Sort of like a turd in a sundae glass. I mean, jimmies, lead chips, and toenails are awful sundae toppings, but….

245
bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:30:57pm

Rubio getting all churchy tonight.

246
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:31:02pm

re: #232 Targetpractice

Iowans are evangelicals? The hell you say!

/////

My daughter and her husband would be quite surprised.

247
ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:31:07pm

re: #222 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

WTF are these black women doing on the stage stumping for Trumpenstein?

[Embedded content]

Are those the two that had the YouTube video that was posted around these parts a day or two ago?

248
BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:31:22pm

Oh, jeez…I’d kind of forgot Rand was even there. That’s not good.

249
A Cranky One  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:31:44pm

All chocolate is great. Unless you put pineapple on top.

250
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:32:14pm

re: #249 A Cranky One

All chocolate is great. Unless you put pineapple on top.

I had a chocolate chip cookie with bacon in it. Tasty.

251
Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:32:16pm

re: #230 No Country For Old Haters

I guess this is how the nuts are going to spin it.

[Embedded content]

The reality is that if you threaten the police, let them know you have guns and do not intend to be taken alive, then go for a gun, they will put you right down, and you won’t even see it coming. This isn’t an old west gunfight.

The assholes who are so upset with this are totally cool with unarmed black kids getting shot.

The UnLogic amazes me.

If he was trying to surrender at that moment, then what was he doing the moment before? Or when he got out of the truck? Or when he could have decided not to blow past a police barricade? Or when he could have surrendered down the road?

“HE WAS TOTES UNARMED AND TRYING TO GIVE UP DOODS”

Well why didn’t he surrender any of the fifty other times he had a chance to do it the easy way?

“SHUT UP WATCH THE VIDEO”

252
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:32:48pm

re: #249 A Cranky One

You HAD to go there, didn’t you?…….

Fuck.

253
Single-handed sailor  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:33:04pm

I’ve had enough. Time to fire up DC’s Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1 Episode 2 - Pilot (2).

254
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:33:23pm

Rand: “I believe in states’ rights but if they don’t agree with me on abortion we’ve got a federal law I want passed.”

Uh…that’s not states’ rights.

255
No Depression  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:33:51pm

Just watched this on Lip Sync Battle:

Josh Gad as Donald Trump performs The Divinyls’ “I Touch Myself” | Lip Sync Battle

256
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:34:40pm

Dr. Carson, joining the rest of the field in trying to revive the Cold War as an answer to Putin’s saber rattling.

257
Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:35:39pm
258
Stanley Sea  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:35:50pm

So the Drumpf didn’t keep up with the actual debate?

259
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:36:33pm

re: #258 SS. Trump = that splat on your window

So the Drumpf didn’t keep up with the actual debate?

Low energy.

260
makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:36:39pm

re: #250 Lidane

I had a chocolate chip cookie with bacon in it. Tasty.

Dark chocolate with sea salt is my kryptonite.

261
Targetpractice  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:37:04pm

“Do business with Iran or do business with the American economy.”

Yeah, great idea, not only slapping our allies in the face by ripping up the deal, but then telling them to rip up business deals with Iran if they want to do business with us.

Great idea, if you want to further isolate us from our allies.

262
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:37:07pm

re: #221 goddamnedfrank

You could do a frame by frame analysis of the video from the time he exits the truck to the time he’s down on the ground, and no matter what facts you present, they will stick to their story that Finicum was gunned down by Teh Ebil Fedz.

I watched it with the sound off. I see Finicum exit the truck with his hands in the air. He stumbles around in the snow, still with hands up. Meanwhile, an LEO approaches from the woods. Then Finicum, still stumbling around, reaches down to his pocket — something no one should ever do when several LEOs are pointing guns at you — fumbles trying to get whatever is in the pocket out, and BANG! He’s down.

It’s not clear who shot him. The LEO in the woods was the closest, but one of the others in front of Finicum could have taken the shot.

263
Stanley Sea  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:37:36pm

re: #259 freetoken

Low energy.

He sat on a hay bale? Need photo. His tie prob touched the sawdust.

264
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:38:11pm

re: #251 Pawn of the Oppressor

Was Finicum driving? He exits from the passenger side.
Nevermind. He was driving. Momentary confusion on my part, because I’ve switched my brain to RHD in Malaysia.

265
Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:38:17pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

The FBI video corroborates that driver’s account in almost every respect. Finicum did flee, he did drive into a snowbank when he saw a roadblock, and he did jump out of the car, run at the officers and reach into his pocket, where he had a loaded gun.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:38:51pm

re: #262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Just commenting to say there was no sound on the video, so sound off doesn’t make a difference.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:40:44pm

re: #254 Lidane

Rand: “I believe in states’ rights but if they don’t agree with me on abortion we’ve got a federal law I want passed.”

Uh…that’s not states’ rights.

Hold on, isn’t that how “state’s rights” are always waved about?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:40:51pm

re: #266 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Just commenting to say there was no sound on the video, so sound off doesn’t make a difference.

OK. I had my PC muted.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:41:00pm

Watching Top Chef. HUGE San Diego Micro (not really but) Brewery promo!

YEAH

Stone & Ballast Point

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makeitstop  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:41:27pm

Jim Wright on Facebook nicknamed the debate ‘Shitfight on Monkey Island.’ LOL

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:41:50pm

Kasich - “Belgiums”

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:43:58pm

Fox talking head - “more to come…”

whooppiiieeeeeeeeeee….

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:44:12pm

re: #265 Charles Johnson

The FBI video corroborates that driver’s account in almost every respect. Finicum did flee, he did drive into a snowbank when he saw a roadblock, and he did jump out of the car, run at the officers and reach into his pocket, where he had a loaded gun.

Exactly.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:45:13pm

I think I’m punch drunk

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:46:25pm

Is there no question they can’t reframe to a terrorism question?

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BongCrodny  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:46:39pm

re: #271 freetoken

Kasich - “Belgiums”

North and South.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:46:46pm

re: #275 BongCrodny

Is there no question they can’t reframe to a terrorism question?

Nope

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:47:32pm

re: #276 BongCrodny

He was trying to compete with Trump’s BRUSSELS!! crowing earlier.

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:47:46pm

re: #267 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

Hold on, isn’t that how “state’s rights” are always waved about?

Rand was asked about his belief in abortion being left to the states. He was specifically asked if that meant that he’d be okay with a more liberal state having fewer restrictions on abortion. His answer was that he would be fine with the states making their own laws but that he has a federal plan which amounts to a “life at conception” plan that would apply the 14th (Rand said the 15th, which is a mistake on his part) Amendment to the unborn that they’d have to follow.

That’s the exact opposite of “states’ rights” as the nutters understand it.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:47:59pm

MONICA!

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:48:08pm

re: #274 freetoken

Read the letters on this chart from top to bottom.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:48:40pm

re: #262 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

You could do a frame by frame analysis of the video from the time he exits the truck to the time he’s down on the ground, and no matter what facts you present, they will stick to their story that Finicum was gunned down by Teh Ebil Fedz.

I watched it with the sound off. I see Finicum exit the truck with his hands in the air. He stumbles around in the snow, still with hands up. Meanwhile, an LEO approaches from the woods. Then Finicum, still stumbling around, reaches down to his pocket — something no one should ever do when several LEOs are pointing guns at you — fumbles trying to get whatever is in the pocket out, and BANG! He’s down.

It’s not clear who shot him. The LEO in the woods was the closest, but one of the others in front of Finicum could have taken the shot.

I agree. And when you watch the video, as they come up on the barricade and then hit the snow, they almost hit one of the LEO’s. I’ve got a pretty high standard for police related shootings, but this one sure passes the “looks OK to me” standard.

When they made that run at the barricade after being stopped, that’s assault with a deadly weapon IIRC.

RBS

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:49:00pm

I think Ailes is trying to do something here…

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:49:07pm

Ok Senator Cruz…we know you love Steve King already…give it a fucking rest.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:49:31pm
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:50:25pm

re: #284 bratwurst

It’s Cruz’s only real Iowa elected official that is his ally.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:50:47pm

re: #279 Lidane

I was thinking how parallel it was to the Fugitive Slave Laws fracas, hence my amusement.

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:51:41pm

Carson is still incoherent.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:52:43pm

Oh, is GOP3k on?

RBS

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:52:48pm
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KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:53:00pm

re: #279 Lidane

Rand was asked about his belief in abortion being left to the states. He was specifically asked if that meant that he’d be okay with a more liberal state having fewer restrictions on abortion. His answer was that he would be fine with the states making their own laws but that he has a federal plan which amounts to a “life at conception” plan that would apply the 14th (Rand said the 15th, which is a mistake on his part) Amendment to the unborn that they’d have to follow.

That’s the exact opposite of “states’ rights” as the nutters understand it.

Nah, for the nutters, States’ Rights are trumped by Individual Rights and because the individual exists at conception (because, shut up, that’s why), abortion doesn’t get the States’ Rights treatment. Also, the Law of God trumps the Law of Man, which is why states’ rights don’t apply to gay marriage either.

I wish I was kidding.

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:53:18pm

You heard the man: THINK ABOUT THAT.

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KGxvi  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:53:56pm

re: #285 Charles Johnson

I’m guessing this was the original plan, but was ruined by Trump getting in.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:54:33pm

re: #292 bratwurst

The chairborne are really going to hate on Fox now.

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Reality Based Steve  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:54:40pm

re: #292 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

You heard the man: THINK ABOUT THAT.

Can I not? I want to protect what remaining brain cells I have as my senior years approach.

RBS

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:56:36pm

Did you know that Christie has prosecuted terrorists? And that his wife was in New York on 9/11?

*headdesk*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:57:34pm

there are other, closer, videos.

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bratwurst  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:01pm
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:24pm

I declare Trump the victor.

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Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:44pm

Someone clearly showed Carson a few Schoolhouse Rock videos. His closing statement was a near verbatim recitation of the Preamble.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:58:47pm
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A Cranky One  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:59:34pm

re: #285 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Best way to do the debates: Turn down the sound, and listen to this instead:

I THINK WE’RE ALL BOZOS ON THIS BUS!
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darthstar  Jan 28, 2016 • 7:59:59pm
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:00:17pm

re: #282 Reality Based Steve

I agree. And when you watch the video, as they come up on the barricade and then hit the snow, they almost hit one of the LEO’s. I’ve got a pretty high standard for police related shootings, but this one sure passes the “looks OK to me” standard.

When they made that run at the barricade after being stopped, that’s assault with a deadly weapon IIRC.

RBS

I noticed watching again that the second guy out of the truck ditches his handgun after he exits.

Running through barricades only works in the movies. A real car running into a barricade would be totaled, or at least undriveable. Hard to say if Finicum was thinking of ramming his way through, then at the last moment swerved left, maybe hoping he could barrel through the snow and keep going. If he had succeeded in doing that, LEOs would have opened fire on the truck, probably.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:01:21pm

re: #302 A Cranky One

Best way to do the debates: Turn down the sound, and listen to this instead:

[Embedded content]

I have that album.
In vinyl.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:01:34pm

Carson thinks he’s back in 6th grade and the homework was memorizing a Preamble…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:01:44pm
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:02:29pm

“New American Century” - pay off to the PNAC pockets.

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electrotek  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:02:57pm

Is it that bad to hope that Trump wins the Republican nomination so the GOP can wither further in the abyss?

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:02:59pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

Magick words.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:03:02pm

re: #292 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

You heard the man: THINK ABOUT THAT.

Can you put that through a right wing lunatic speak decoder ring for me? I have no idea what that means.

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cat-tikvah  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:03:07pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

I heard “prey”.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:03:50pm

re: #312 cat-tikvah

I heard “bray”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:05:13pm

re: #313 freetoken

I heard “bray”.

And gills.

Donkeys and fish.

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Jenner7  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:05:33pm

That was more of the same…..bullshit. Didn’t miss Trump. Going to watch Rachel. BBL.

316
Lidane  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:07:33pm
317
FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:08:18pm
318
GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:08:34pm

You, Me and the Apocalypse looks like it’ll be fun. Enjoyed the first episode.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:09:58pm

re: #303 darthstar

I miss Schoolhouse Rock. I wish they still did it. What a great learning tool.

Especially since civics is no longer taught.

When I was a kid I had to pass a Constitution test in the 7th and 11th grades or I wouldn’t have graduated grade or high school.

320
Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:12:28pm

The next long weekend is a couple of weeks away.

Ironically, that’s President’s Day.

Unfuckingbeliveable what we have turned into.

321
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:13:52pm

Lots of polls out tonight, all good news for Trump:

The less-than-chaste IBD:

Trump’s Lead Shrinks As Attacks On Cruz Appear To Backfire — Poll

Problem with the IBD poll is that it uses a rather small pool for a nationwide poll. Regardless of the headline, Trump still leads by 10 points. The change since the last installment is no larger than the estimated error.

In Iowa, the NBC/Marist poll Trump an easy lead:

This is an 11 point swing than the previous installment 3 weeks ago, at which time Cruz was leading.

Finally, the PPP Iowa poll has Trump up by 8, which is 6 more than the last installment a little less than 3 weeks ago.

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A Cranky One  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:16:10pm

re: #319 WhatEVs

I miss Schoolhouse Rock. I wish they still did it. What a great learning tool.

Especially since civics is no longer taught.

When I was a kid I had to pass a Constitution test in the 7th and 11th grades or I wouldn’t have graduated grade or high school.

I’m a military brat, and we moved a lot. Several of the states where we lived also required a test on the State constitution. So I had the privilege of learning multiple states worth of civics.

Kids today. So spoiled and worse, they won’t stay off my lawn.

/

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:16:58pm
Shelbot
324
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:17:54pm
Since we last polled Iowa two and a half weeks ago Trump and Cruz are the only candidates to see their support move by more than a couple points- Trump’s seen a 3 point gain in his support from 28% to 31%, while Cruz has seen a corresponding 3 point decline in his support from 26% to 23%.

Cruz has seen a large drop in his favorability rating over the last few weeks, from 69/18 down to just 56/35. Trump’s continued focus on the ‘Canadian birther’ issue may really be a big part of what’s helping him at Cruz’s expense. We found on our last Iowa poll that only 32% of Republican voters thought someone born in another country should be allowed to serve as President, and attention to Cruz’s birthplace has been a constant since that last poll.

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Belafon  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:19:49pm

re: #319 WhatEVs

I miss Schoolhouse Rock. I wish they still did it. What a great learning tool.

Especially since civics is no longer taught.

When I was a kid I had to pass a Constitution test in the 7th and 11th grades or I wouldn’t have graduated grade or high school.

My fifth grader had to learn the writer of the Declaration, the point of it and the parts; the names of four presidents, including the two founders, of the Democratic-Republican party; and asked to think about the consequences of white males being the only ones who could participate in politics at the beginning of the country. The reason I know this is we had to review it tonight.

326
prairiefire  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:26:08pm

re: #48 Pawn of the Oppressor

Aggressive action from the “perp”. How could it not go down as justified.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:26:36pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:27:44pm

re: #322 A Cranky One

I’m a military brat, and we moved a lot. Several of the states where we lived also required a test on the State constitution. So I had the privilege of learning multiple states worth of civics.

Kids today. So spoiled and worse, they won’t stay off my lawn.

/

But it’s such a pretty lawn, I remember the pictures!

329
freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:28:49pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:28:52pm

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

That’s a …special one.

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A Cranky One  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:30:05pm

re: #328 klys (maker of Silmarils)

But it’s such a pretty lawn, I remember the pictures!

Oh that’s it, blame the victim! ;)

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Tigger2  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:31:12pm

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:32:14pm

Were you Marvel fans surprised to find out Marvel is behind Trump?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:33:07pm

re: #331 A Cranky One

Oh that’s it, blame the victim! ;)

I just wanted to have a picnic…

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Charles Johnson  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:33:31pm
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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:33:36pm
Tonight, Donald Trump announced that Marvel Comics CEO Isaac “Ike” Perlmutter, dubbed the most powerful person in comic books by this very website, and his wife Laura Perlmutter donated one million dollars to Trump’s “Donald Trump For Veterans” event, held as counter programming to the Fox News presidential debate that Trump is not attending.

That was a bit of a run-on sentence but it’s late.

Was this solely in support of the veterans? Or in support of Trump? Spin doctors may swing it one way or another. But some will see that as an alliance made in heaven. Or somewhere else not too far away…

It is also worth noting that Stan Lee previously assisted Hillary Clinton over fundraising events. And that last year, Laura Perlmutter donated $2 million to a Super PAC supporting the presidential candidacy of Marco Rubio.

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freetoken  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:35:11pm

Make Captain America Great Again.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:36:27pm
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A Cranky One  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:39:05pm

re: #334 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just wanted to have a picnic…

The ants are the size of dogs.

Oh wait, those are dogs. They just swarm like ants when I get home.

Never mind.

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ObserverArt  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:46:04pm

Thanks for the coverage of tonight’s events. Later.

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:48:44pm

re: #325 Belafon

My fifth grader had to learn the writer of the Declaration, the point of it and the parts; the names of four presidents, including the two founders, of the Democratic-Republican party; and asked to think about the consequences of white males being the only ones who could participate in politics at the beginning of the country. The reason I know this is we had to review it tonight.

That’s excellent! Where do you live, if you don’t mind me asking m?

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:50:11pm

re: #326 prairiefire

Aggressive action from the “perp”. How could it not go down as justified.

They should have just said they feared for their lives. That always works. /

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:51:06pm

re: #152 gocart mozart

This is just sad.

[Embedded content]

This is nothing new. This is typical JEB political campaign style.

He ran the same kind of campaigns for Governor of FL.

It cost him the first election:
e.g. [paraphrased] in an interview JEB was asked what will you do for black/poor folks?”

“Probably nothing.”

(Lawton Child’s “Bull Coon speech also played a large part in JEB losing the first election)

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WhatEVs  Jan 28, 2016 • 8:55:55pm

Gah. Dead thread.

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PeterWolf  Jan 28, 2016 • 10:39:31pm

Rubio: Fantastical deluded view of America and its politics. Not to mention truth and accuracy.

Christie: Windbag, with an ego exceeded only by his girth.

Cruz: Nasty, specious, annoying, whiny brat.

Carson: Woke up once or twice.

Paul: The rest make him sound sane and considered.

Bush: Like Paul, comes out sounding sane compared to the rest.

Kasich: I’m sure I heard him say something.

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steve_davis  Jan 29, 2016 • 5:26:09am

re: #43 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

Never forget, I won a copy of that on DVD from LGF many, many years ago!

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steve_davis  Jan 29, 2016 • 6:05:34am

re: #253 Single-handed sailor

I’ve had enough. Time to fire up DC’s Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1 Episode 2 - Pilot (2).

tell me this is on either Amazon Prime or Netflix so I can stream it.


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