Podcast o’ the Day: The Bob & Chez Show, 1/28/16

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Today’s program on our podcasting affiliate, The Bob & Chez Show:

The Hairless Bigfoot: Farewell to the Tarp Man; The Oregon Militia Takes Its First Casualties; Oregon Militia Doofus Screams About the Cops; Trump vs Fox News Channel; Trump Fans Tweet Sexist Slurs at Megyn Kelly; Sarah Palin Defends Trump Against Fox News; Robert Reich’s Bernie Sanders Video; and much more.

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180 comments
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Tigger2  Jan 29, 2016 • 11:54:38am
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Targetpractice  Jan 29, 2016 • 11:55:29am

*sigh*

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 11:59:56am
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KGxvi  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:00:41pm

re: #1 Tigger2

KNO TRUE PATRIOT!!11!

The only question is how soon will the militanuts be rewritten into tree hugging ecoterrorists that none of the real true Murkans ever supported?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:03:27pm
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Mattand  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:03:49pm

If anyone gets the chance, listen to Chez’s description of Brian Kilmeade in the last podcast.

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:10:54pm

I am having a “I’m a 12 year old boy” moment…maybe afternoon.

I so love the internet. God bless DARPA.

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ObserverArt  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:16:21pm

re: #1 Tigger2

HGTomato @HGTomato

Some “Patriots” turning on Pete Santilli. #Oregonstandoff

2:51 PM - 29 Jan 2016

No surprise. I almost posted a comment when it was going down and Santilli was caught away from the compound. That all sounded a bit fishy. And even if he is not an informant, the fact they are all eating each other is a good thing.

Before this is all over, I bet there are going to many more ‘patriots’ identified that were not even in Oregon. These fools can’t shut up their yaps!

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:19:00pm

Yes, there is a blue tarp

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Tigger2  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:19:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:19:31pm

I have a theory of my own.
When word of the Bundy arrests reached Burns, and Santilli called Blaine Cooper at the refuge to tell him he was now in charge, Cooper said something that completely freaked out Santilli. (All of this caught on video as it was happening).
Santilli is arrested right there and remains in jail.
Cooper packs up his wife and (kidnapped) kids and they depart the refuge in the dark of night, past checkpoints, to parts unknown…leaving the rest of the losers holding the collective bag of flaming dog poop and no porch.
Cooper has no recognizable means of support but lives extremely well and has managed to insert himself into every militia group he can find.
In the FBI complaint filed in court, Blaine Cooper is referred to in text and photos as “unidentified man”.

Who’s the potential inside guy?

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TedStriker  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:21:36pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a theory of my own.
When word of the Bundy arrests reached Burns, and Santilli called Blaine Cooper at the refuge to tell him he was now in charge, Cooper said something that completely freaked out Santilli. (All of this caught on video as it was happening).
Santilli is arrested right there and remains in jail.
Cooper packs up his wife and (kidnapped) kids and they depart the refuge in the dark of night, past checkpoints, to parts unknown…leaving the rest of the losers holding the collective bag of flaming dog poop and no porch.
Cooper has no recognizable means of support but lives extremely well and has managed to insert himself into every militia group he can find.
In the FBI complaint filed in court, Blaine Cooper is referred to in text and photos as “unidentified man”.

Who’s the potential inside guy?

Sounds plausible to me that Cooper’s a rat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:23:18pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, my theory also includes someone putting bugs in the bird sanctuary:

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:26:05pm

What is it that the remaining morons think they have to offer that gives them any leverage to have “demands?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:26:52pm

re: #14 BeachDem

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What is it that the remaining morons think they have to offer that gives them any leverage to have “demands?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:27:26pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:28:03pm

re: #14 BeachDem

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What is it that the remaining morons think they have to offer that gives them any leverage to have “demands?”

A bird’s nest from an endangered species.

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TedStriker  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:28:05pm

re: #14 BeachDem

What is it that the remaining morons think they have to offer that gives them any leverage to have “demands?”

The refugeniks are acting like they have a royal flush, when all they have is a pair of threes.

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:28:09pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And again I ask, why do these morons think they’re such very special snowflakes?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:28:30pm
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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:28:56pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a theory of my own.
When word of the Bundy arrests reached Burns, and Santilli called Blaine Cooper at the refuge to tell him he was now in charge, Cooper said something that completely freaked out Santilli. (All of this caught on video as it was happening).
Santilli is arrested right there and remains in jail.
Cooper packs up his wife and (kidnapped) kids and they depart the refuge in the dark of night, past checkpoints, to parts unknown…leaving the rest of the losers holding the collective bag of flaming dog poop and no porch.
Cooper has no recognizable means of support but lives extremely well and has managed to insert himself into every militia group he can find.
In the FBI complaint filed in court, Blaine Cooper is referred to in text and photos as “unidentified man”.

Who’s the potential inside guy?

Someone who is sitting in jail right now. That would be my guess.

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:28:59pm

re: #18 TedStriker

The refugeniks are acting like they have a royal flush, when all they have is a pair of threes.

I don’t even think they have a pair of threes.

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TedStriker  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:29:02pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:29:13pm

re: #14 BeachDem

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What is it that the remaining morons think they have to offer that gives them any leverage to have “demands?”

As someone pointed out to me the other day, time is now on the FBI’s side. They’ve got the place surrounded, there’s no reinforcements coming, and there’s not enough militants left to set up even a half-assed watch system. Mix in the paranoia that will prevent them from getting even cat naps and it won’t be long before their own exhaustion undoes them.

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Tigger2  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:29:40pm

re: #20 Aunty Entity Dragon

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:29:49pm

re: #18 TedStriker

The refugeniks are acting like they have a royal flush, when all they have is a pair of threes.

But they’re both spades!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:30:24pm

re: #21 WhatEVs

Someone who is sitting in jail right now. That would be my guess.

And Cooper managed to leave the refuge, past the checkpoints without being arrested, while others who attempted to leave were arrested.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:30:30pm

re: #19 BeachDem

And again I ask, why do these morons think they’re such very special snowflakes?

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Jay C  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:30:36pm

re: #14 BeachDem

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What is it that the remaining morons think they have to offer that gives them any leverage to have “demands?”

Nothing, of course, but it sounds more like simply making the “demands” is the main point: to buy time. Time for more publicity, more clicks, more breathless bullshit FB posts, more “martyrdom” sympathy from Wingnuttistan, etc. Of course it’s all a waste of time, but then, these assclowns don’t seem to have much of anything else to do with their lives…

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calochortus  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:30:40pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

As someone pointed out to me the other day, time is now on the FBI’s side. They’ve got the place surrounded, there’s no reinforcements coming, and there’s not enough militants left to set up even a half-assed watch system. Mix in the paranoia that will prevent them from getting even cat naps and it won’t be long before their own exhaustion undoes them.

The feds should send them some more beer.

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:30:58pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holeee. Schnitzel.

That boy is…touched.

(Bless his heart ;-)

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:32:15pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Cooper managed to leave the refuge, past the checkpoints without being arrested, while others who attempted to leave were arrested.

Not disputing the possibility. If it was my shitshow, that’s just how I would handle someone on the inside.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:33:30pm

David Fry is completely and totally mentally ill.
I am not joking. He needs serious psychiatric help.

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withak  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:33:45pm

re: #28 Aunty Entity Dragon

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@BarryWirth has got to be a Poe.

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lawhawk  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:34:01pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Master baiting heading of the day eh?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:34:18pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Cooper managed to leave the refuge, past the checkpoints without being arrested, while others who attempted to leave were arrested.

Cooper has been accused of theft from other groups and there is general suspicion on patriot boards of how he has a lot of expensive toys and no job or income.

I have been wondering how the hell he ran out to Idaho myself.

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Stanley Sea  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:34:19pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I caught that!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:34:22pm

re: #34 withak

@BarryWirth has got to be a Poe.

Barry Wirth is a parody account that has been around for a very long time.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:34:55pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Nicely done, Time, nicely done.

Golf Clap - Men at Work - 1990 Charlie Sheen & Emilio Estevez

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makeitstop  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:35:10pm

re: #1 Tigger2

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Jesus, I’d hate to belong to that outfit. They seem to run on suspicion and paranoia.

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TedStriker  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:35:22pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Cooper managed to leave the refuge, past the checkpoints without being arrested, while others who attempted to leave were arrested.

Not only that, but the FBI didn’t come after them after Cooper and his wife pretty much kidnapped their kids from the relative that was taking care of them after that relative called CPS about the kids’ welfare (and, IIRC, CPS was enroute to the kids and passed Cooper and family on the road).

Anywhere or anybody else, that would have been an instant AMBER Alert.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:36:46pm

re: #34 withak

@BarryWirth has got to be a Poe.

I think so. This was the clincher…

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:37:17pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Fry is completely and totally mentally ill.
I am not joking. He needs serious psychiatric help.

How old is he? Can’t remember. And have his parents returned from vacation yet? Anybody know?

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:38:34pm

re: #43 BeachDem

How old is he? Can’t remember. And have his parents returned from vacation yet? Anybody know?

He’s 27 based on OPB. I don’t know about the parents.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:39:42pm

re: #19 BeachDem

And again I ask, why do these morons think they’re such very special snowflakes?

We’re True Muricans. The holy land Murica, which we worship and defend, protects us!

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:40:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:40:51pm

re: #43 BeachDem

How old is he? Can’t remember. And have his parents returned from vacation yet? Anybody know?

He’s 27, I think.
His parents are back from vacation and have been in contact with him and the authorities and the press.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:43:50pm

oh, good luck with THAT you guys:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:44:16pm

re: #46 Aunty Entity Dragon

RINO!!!

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:44:19pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

*sigh*

Every one of these types of articles should include a statement saying “and the House of Representatives provided everyone with access to the emails.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:44:49pm

re: #36 Aunty Entity Dragon

Cooper has been accused of theft from other groups and there is general suspicion on patriot boards of how he has a lot of expensive toys and no job or income.

I have been wondering how the hell he ran out to Idaho myself.

[totally made up]
He is really David Blaine Cooper, Jr. Or DB, for short….
[/totally made up]

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:44:49pm

re: #34 withak

@BarryWirth has got to be a Poe.

@BarryWirth is definitely a parody account.

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:46:07pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s 27, I think.
His parents are back from vacation and have been in contact with him and the authorities and the press.

Did I miss this before? According to the Plain Dealer, he was on vacation WITH his parents and left to go to Oregon—so they would have known all along.

Fry reportedly was on vacation with his parents in Costa Rica when he left them and traveled to Oregon to join the occupation. He told reporters in Oregon he drove through a blinding snowstorm to get there.

This says he actually did an interview with the Plain Dealer (and counts fetuses as people):

“I’m holding up alright,” Fry told The Plain Dealer. “Everybody is still holding their ground. We did get the women, children, most of them out of here — all the children. I think there’s one woman who’s pregnant. That still counts as a child.”

cleveland.com

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:46:30pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a theory of my own.
When word of the Bundy arrests reached Burns, and Santilli called Blaine Cooper at the refuge to tell him he was now in charge, Cooper said something that completely freaked out Santilli. (All of this caught on video as it was happening).
Santilli is arrested right there and remains in jail.
Cooper packs up his wife and (kidnapped) kids and they depart the refuge in the dark of night, past checkpoints, to parts unknown…leaving the rest of the losers holding the collective bag of flaming dog poop and no porch.
Cooper has no recognizable means of support but lives extremely well and has managed to insert himself into every militia group he can find.
In the FBI complaint filed in court, Blaine Cooper is referred to in text and photos as “unidentified man”.

Who’s the potential inside guy?

No doubt the whole movement is infested with informants and agents. This would be especially true of the most radical elements; that is, the nutburgers who take it seriously. Some of these may not be working for the government, or our government at any rate. NGO monitors, media, foreign agents, and maybe even wealthy free lance activists would all have a potential interest.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:46:39pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

We should all start whispering so none of them notice that stuff online is insanely insecure.

But seriously. There are lemur troupes with better grasps of sigint.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:46:41pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

His parents left him alone?

I’m guessing his grip on reality wasn’t so tenuous until very recently.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:46:52pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

militant supporters are meeting online RIGHT NOW to discuss a potential rescue attempt.

If the occupiers need to be rescued, why did they choose to occupy the reserve in the first place?

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:47:47pm

re: #56 Romantic Heretic

His parents left him alone?

I’m guessing his grip on reality wasn’t so tenuous until very recently.

I’m thinking his parents felt the need for a break.

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calochortus  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:48:12pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, good luck with THAT you guys:

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Who would be dumb enough to get involved at this point?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:48:26pm

re: #52 The Vicious Babushka

@BarryWirth is definitely a parody account.

His stuff is funny as hell.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:48:36pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel

No doubt the whole movement is infested with informants. This would be especially true of the most radical elements; that is, the nutburgers who take it seriously. Some of these may not be working for the government, or our government at any rate. NGO monitors, media, foreign agents, and maybe even wealthy free lance activists would all have a potential interest.

The whole movement is also filled with drama llamas and people who are basically fraudsters. The former would totally dime someone because of a grudge, the latter because fuck it, more income.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:48:52pm

re: #59 calochortus

Who would be dumb enough to get involved at this point?

BJ Soper and his band of sooper patritos…

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:49:18pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:49:40pm

re: #57 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If the occupiers need to be rescued, why did they choose to occupy the reserve in the first place?

If it’s safe for nuthatches, must be safe for nutbars.

/they figgered

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:50:11pm

David Fry and his parents live in Blanchester, Ohio. His parents run a dental clinic.

I know this because they live within a couple of hours from me and it’s typical small town stuff between here and there.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:51:00pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dammit, now I’m hungry for patritos and salsa.

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calochortus  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:53:15pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

BJ Soper and his band of sooper patritos…

He’s calling for a response, but is he heading out to help get arrested himself?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:53:26pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:53:30pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Fry and his parents live in Blanchester, Ohio. His parents run a dental clinic.

I know this because they live within a couple of hours from me and it’s typical small town stuff between here and there.

Had you read anywhere else that he was on vacation WITH the parents when he left for Oregon as the Plain Dealer article says?
littlegreenfootballs.com

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ausador  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:53:59pm

First you start in the 97-98 strong El Nino year then claim very little warming since. Of course if you were to start in 79 when the satellite records began it shows definite warming, but Cruz conveniently ignores that.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:55:20pm

re: #57 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’m still trying to figure out what the fuck their point was in the first place. All this bullshit about the Hammonds and freedumb is just a load of horseshit. They were poorly supplied and organized, hell, I’ve seen little kids plotting to run away to grandma’s who were more prepared for a journey than these dipshits.

Honestly, there probably are a few core members who are totally serious about taking the government away from all of us and enforcing their own rules and laws and blah, blah, but the rest of them? I honestly think this was just the idea of getting their drink on with their boys and being all manly and comparing, um, firearms. Who plans for an indefinite occupation and brings literally nothing to sustain that? That idiot Ritzenheimer or whatever his name is MISSED FREAKING CHRISTMAS with his kids because he’s been grifting around following all these fools, like some sort of band groupie. And really, don’t these people work? And if they’re collecting disability from their hated government, then how in the hell are they managing to travel around and tote a bunch of guns and stuff? Shouldn’t someone be looking into the validity of those benefits?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:55:22pm

re: #60 Aunty Entity Dragon

His stuff is funny as hell.

He used to be but now he can’t keep up with the real deal.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:57:17pm

The seditious militia-right reminds me of an NFL team: About 50 players with millions of fans and hundreds of media collaborators cheering them on.

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calochortus  Jan 29, 2016 • 12:59:57pm

re: #71 A Mom Anon

They were leading uninteresting, not very successful lives and saw their chance to Be Somebody. To take the lead in a Great Thing. Death or Glory. No longer to be the little guy. (See also: terrorism recruitment)

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:01:49pm

A nice one just hopped up:

A mean looking one came up yesterday:

Or the day before. Whatever.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:03:00pm

re: #70 ausador

First you start in the 97-98 strong El Nino year then claim very little warming since. Of course if you were to start in 79 when the satellite records began it shows definite warming, but Cruz conveniently ignores that.

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I guess I should have kept watching that last night since I missed Cruz getting his ass kicked by everybody.

Natch, Sacramental Rod Dreher is very upset with all of us the GOP candidates:

But Rod can still make a funny! (allegedly)

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makeitstop  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:04:39pm

re: #57 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If the occupiers need to be rescued, why did they choose to occupy the reserve in the first place?

They may be talking about ‘rescuing’ Ammon, even though he’s in a Fed facility somewhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:05:29pm

re: #67 calochortus

He’s calling for a response, but is he heading out to help get arrested himself?

He was actually physically there the other night when Jason Patrick was supposed to “surrender” to him.

Why Jason would surrender to BJ and not the FBI is a mystery…

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ObserverArt  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:06:16pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Fry is completely and totally mentally ill.
I am not joking. He needs serious psychiatric help.

I swear I went to art school with a guy that looked just like Fry. And this dude was just a little weird too. Painfully shy and scared of his own shadow. Thin as a rail too, just like Fry. Had the same mustache and really long hair kept in a pony tail. I would think Fry is his son, but his last name was not Fry.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:07:38pm

re: #76 Aunty Entity Dragon

I don’t understand how what Rob Dreher wants converts into policy, at all, such that any politician could address them.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:07:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:08:27pm

re: #69 BeachDem

Had you read anywhere else that he was on vacation WITH the parents when he left for Oregon as the Plain Dealer article says?
littlegreenfootballs.com

Nope, first I heard of that was when you posted that.
David supposedly drove all the way from Cincinnati to Oregon in a blizzard.
His car is there at the refuge.

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KGxvi  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:09:24pm

re: #80 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

I don’t understand how what Rob Dreher wants converts into policy, at all, such that any politician could address them.

Government run religion, you know:

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:10:34pm
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ausador  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:11:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:11:39pm

LOLOLOLOL!!!

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:11:47pm

re: #80 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

I don’t understand how what Rob Dreher wants converts into policy, at all, such that any politician could address them.

Rod has been wandering further out into the weeds with his obsession that all the damned world is wrong and the 12th Century is right.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:12:36pm

Dan Tilkin @DanTilkinKOIN6 is posting reams of court documents on Bundy clan detention hearing
twitter.com

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KGxvi  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:12:45pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart

Of course they’d want them held pending trial - they have a history of threatening violence (and in fact, one of their (now dead) co-conspirators attacked federal agents), they’re probably a flight risk, and conviction is pretty straight forward since we have, what, three weeks worth of news footage of them breaking the damn law?

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:14:24pm

re: #87 Aunty Entity Dragon

Rod has been wandering further out into the weeds with his obsession that all the damned world is wrong and the 12th Century is right.

EDGY

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KGxvi  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:14:52pm

re: #87 Aunty Entity Dragon

Rod has been wandering further out into the weeds with his obsession that all the damned world is wrong and the 12th Century is right.

There’s either a novel series or TV series worth writing about the feudal system surviving the industrial revolution… But I don’t think it’d be as great as Rod thinks it would be.

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calochortus  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:15:33pm

BBL Actual constructive work awaits.

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ObserverArt  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:15:40pm

re: #53 BeachDem

Did I miss this before? According to the Plain Dealer, he was on vacation WITH his parents and left to go to Oregon—so they would have known all along.

Fry reportedly was on vacation with his parents in Costa Rica when he left them and traveled to Oregon to join the occupation. He told reporters in Oregon he drove through a blinding snowstorm to get there.

This says he actually did an interview with the Plain Dealer (and counts fetuses as people):

“I’m holding up alright,” Fry told The Plain Dealer. “Everybody is still holding their ground. We did get the women, children, most of them out of here — all the children. I think there’s one woman who’s pregnant. That still counts as a child.”

cleveland.com

The Plain Dealer? Is the little creep from Cleveland or that area of Ohio?

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No Depression  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:15:51pm

re: #87 Aunty Entity Dragon

Rod has been wandering further out into the weeds with his obsession that all the damned world is wrong and the 12th Century is right.

If he likes the 12th Century so much, maybe he should move to the Islamic State.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:16:34pm

re: #76 Aunty Entity Dragon

Rubio not talking realistically abt religious liberty. Deeply frustrating that none if the Republican candidates are. It’s so urgent.
— Rod Dreher

I wonder what religious liberties Rod feels he is unfree to exercise?

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EPR-radar  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:16:36pm

re: #76 Aunty Entity Dragon

Dreher’s idea of ‘religious freedom’ being the Church Militant burning heretics at the stake, no doubt.

In fact, Dreher should just shut up about religious freedom because it is one of the core ideas of the Enlightenment, which he rejects.

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:17:16pm

re: #95 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder what religious liberties Rod feels he is unfree to exercise?

The God-given ability to stone others.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:17:53pm

re: #91 KGxvi

There’s either a novel series or TV series worth writing about the feudal system surviving the industrial revolution… But I don’t think it’d be as great as Rod thinks it would be.

But it would be sacramental and have none of that nominalism!!!!! Those self willed nominalist hyper-pluralized icky tranny fake wimminz ( I hates them I hates them) would never exist and the gheyz would be invisible!!!!!

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:18:05pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nope, first I heard of that was when you posted that.
David supposedly drove all the way from Cincinnati to Oregon in a blizzard.
His car is there at the refuge.

Sorry to keep bugging you ;-) but you said his parents have been in touch with the press since he’s been out there—know where there are any articles? What did they say to the press?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:18:54pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

The Plain Dealer? Is the little creep from Cleveland or that area of Ohio?

Blanchester, just a few miles NE of Cincinnati.

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:19:47pm

re: #76 Aunty Entity Dragon

Shorter Dreher: Goddamnit, you’re not theocratic enough!

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:19:51pm

re: #95 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I wonder what religious liberties Rod feels he is unfree to exercise?

He has been pretty specific about that.

He feels he shouldn’t have to let us into his place of business, rent any facility to us, acknowledge our marriages in a legal sense or have us as employees. All of those things oppress him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:19:56pm

re: #99 BeachDem

Sorry to keep bugging you ;-) but you said his parents have been in touch with the press since he’s been out there—know where there are any articles? What did they say to the press?

Amanda Peacher and others from OPB have talked with his parents. Maybe other reporters too, but I know OPB has been in contact with them.

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ObserverArt  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:21:52pm

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

David Fry and his parents live in Blanchester, Ohio. His parents run a dental clinic.

I know this because they live within a couple of hours from me and it’s typical small town stuff between here and there.

Well, there is my answer for why the Cleveland Plain Dealer interviewed him. They still have a couple of actual journalists up there unlike The Columbus Dispatch.

I’ve never heard of Blanchester, so it must be small. Gonna look it up on Google maps.

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:22:10pm

re: #79 ObserverArt

I swear I went to art school with a guy that looked just like Fry. And this dude was just a little weird too. Painfully shy and scared of his own shadow. This as a rail too, just like Fry. Had the same mustache and really long hair kept in a pony tail. I would think Fry is his son, but his last name was not Fry.

I really hate to stereotype but I, too, met an IT guy who looked just like Fry. Actually, I think two (IT is my industry) that were close, but one was pretty much dead on.

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Emoprog Refugee  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:23:13pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

Nevada Assemblywoman Shelley Shelton believes FBI playing tricks w/ Finicum video. facebook.com
1:45 PM - 29 Jan 2016

What is it with Nevada Assemblywomen?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:23:43pm

re: #104 ObserverArt

Well, there is my answer for why the Cleveland Plain Dealer interviewed him. They still have a couple of actual journalists up there unlike The Columbus Dispatch.

I’ve never heard of Blanchester, so it must be small. Gonna look it up on Google maps.

straddles the line between Clinton and Warren Counties.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:24:02pm

re: #106 Emoprog Refugee

What is it with Nevada Assemblywomen?

All that desert iconoclastic contrarionism.

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Jay C  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:25:03pm

re: #76 Aunty Entity Dragon

Rod Dreher:

Disappointed that the GOP candidates & Fox moderators are COMPLETELY ignoring the twin menaces of univocity and nominalism.

Maybe they might address the issue(s) if they had any idea WTH Dreher is talking about?

I like to think of myself as reasonably well-read; and I had to look these terms up. And STILL don’t really understand what Dreher is talking about.
But then, IIRC, this IS the guy who converted to some sort of Orthodoxy or other because the Roman Catholic Church wasn’t authoritarian enough for him …

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:25:45pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

The Plain Dealer? Is the little creep from Cleveland or that area of Ohio?

Nope—Cincinnati area. But the Plain Dealer article SAYS they did an actual interview with him.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:25:57pm

Rep. Darrell Issa: FBI Director ‘Would Like To Indict’ Clinton

So…is there any fallout if he’s lying…which he does, and is likely doing yet again?

But if there is an indictment, doesn’t this throw doubt on the motives and objectivity of the FBI director?

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:26:34pm

re: #106 Emoprog Refugee

What is it with Nevada Assemblywomen?

Plutonium in the water

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makeitstop  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:27:13pm

re: #108 Aunty Entity Dragon

All that desert iconoclastic contrarionism sun on their brains.

Tweaked that a bit.

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:27:27pm

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amanda Peacher and others from OPB have talked with his parents. Maybe other reporters too, but I know OPB has been in contact with them.

Ah, thanks. Can’t find anything with “the google” about any articles.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:27:52pm

re: #109 Jay C

Rod Dreher:

Maybe they might address the issue(s) if they had any idea WTH Dreher is talking about?

I like to think of myself as reasonably well-read - and had to look these terms up. And STILL don;t really understand what Dreher is talking about.
But then, IIRC, this IS the guy who converted to some sort of Orthodoxy or other because the Roman Catholic Church wasn’t authoritarian enough for him …

I looked up all that stuff myself when he first started using it as the basis for his screeds against transgendered people and the rest of the GLBT community.

I have little patience for metaphysical philosophy and less still for vainglorious efforts to disguise bigotry behind 25 cent words.

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EmmaAnne  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:27:53pm

So I take it there are still four Patritos at the refuge? I am actually a little bit impressed that they are all hanging tough so far. I wonder how their stash of snacks and beer (and pot!) are doing.

I am very impressed with law enforcement catching Tarp Man’s entire flight and crash and subsequent thrashing around and trying to get his gun out of its holster on camera. That took both planning and skill. It won’t convince the dead enders, of course, but most people can plainly see that LE was doing its damnedest to avoid bloodshed and this was suicide by cop.

I was griping about the slow response to this situation a few days ago, but I take it all back. These people have learned from previous run-ins and are being professional and thorough so far.

I shudder to think what the refuge will look like after all of this. :-(

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Tigger2  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:28:14pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:28:46pm

re: #109 Jay C

I’d at least heard of nominalism, but ‘univocity’ was new to me. Theocrats take theology terribly seriously, while it bores just about everyone else to tears.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:29:06pm

re: #110 BeachDem

Nope—Cincinnati area. But the Plain Dealer article SAYS they did an actual interview with him.

Plain Dealer probably did do an actual interview with him.
David is so full of himself as some sort of huge freedum fighter/martyr, he’s talking to anyone who calls him on the phone.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:29:24pm

re: #117 Tigger2

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:32:00pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

Plain Dealer probably did do an actual interview with him.
David is so full of himself as some sort of huge freedum fighter/martyr, he’s talking to anyone who calls him on the phone.

Good thing they called him, instead of going the p/m on the fake twitter account route like so many of the media morons did with the fake Ammon Bundy account.

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Skip Intro  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:32:27pm

Covering up nude statues: Iranians say thanks but no thanks to Italy

bbc.com

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Belafon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:32:55pm

re: #111 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

I think the FBI director would like to indict both Huma and Hillary as we speak,” the congressman told the Examiner at a debate-watch party for Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL).

There is no evidence that the FBI is targeting Clinton with its investigation into the security of the private email server she used to conduct business as secretary of state. Last year, The New York Times erroneously reported the Justice Department was asked to open a criminal probe into Clinton’s use of the private email server and added several corrections to the story.

I think pigs might fly out of your butt, Issa. Doesn’t mean it might be true.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:34:14pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

I’d at least heard of nominalism, but ‘univocity’ was new to me. Theocrats take theology terribly seriously, while it bores just about everyone else to tears.

I wold sooner chew my own arm off. I know that stuff I can relate to in mineralogy would just absolutely bore most other people into a drunken stupor…but this shit is actually bizarre.

Anyway, he is all excited by this book amazon.com showing how the Protestant Reformation has just destroyed everything for everybody forever. He has been bragging about it in his twitter feed.

All I can say is thank God nobody like Dreher or Santorum has ever been handed the keys to the White House.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:34:53pm

re: #111 Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis

Rep. Darrell Issa: FBI Director ‘Would Like To Indict’ Clinton

So…is there any fallout if he’s lying…which he does, and is likely doing yet again?

But if there is an indictment, doesn’t this throw doubt on the motives and objectivity of the FBI director?

Director Comey is a registered Republican. He may well have told people like Issa that he would personally like to indict Hillary, but that the evidence doesn’t support it. That wouldn’t surprise me at all. After all the Harris County Prosecutor wanted to indict Planned Parenthood, but the investigation resulted in the grand jury indicting Daleiden and Meritt instead.

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gwangung  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:35:33pm

re: #116 EmmaAnne

So I take it there are still four Patritos at the refuge? I am actually a little bit impressed that they are all hanging tough so far. I wonder how their stash of snacks and beer (and pot!) are doing.

I am very impressed with law enforcement catching Tarp Man’s entire flight and crash and subsequent thrashing around and trying to get his gun out of its holster on camera. That took both planning and skill. It won’t convince the dead enders, of course, but most people can plainly see that LE was doing its damnedest to avoid bloodshed and this was suicide by cop.

I was griping about the slow response to this situation a few days ago, but I take it all back. These people have learned from previous run-ins and are being professional and thorough so far.

I shudder to think what the refuge will look like after all of this. :-(

In retrospect, the feds were VERY patient. They waited until ALL the leaders were off the reserve to cut off the head. And they waited until they were on a road that was winding, isolated and with obstructed visibility; all other roads apparently had tens of miles of visibility.

That’s decent planning.

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:36:06pm

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Nojay UK  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:37:53pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

I’ve been rereading a series of alt-history SF books set in the 6th century where Monophysitism is a minor but recurring feature, mentioned quite often and playing a part in some of the storyline. The authors, being Bastards of the first water, never ever explain exactly what Monophysitism is to the modern reader. I approve.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:39:07pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart

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PPN’s call for patritos to come to Harney County.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:41:04pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:42:03pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But David Fry is not Hilary Clinton’s friend.

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Tigger2  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:42:18pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:42:38pm

re: #118 EPR-radar

I’d at least heard of nominalism, but ‘univocity’ was new to me. Theocrats take theology terribly seriously, while it bores just about everyone else to tears.

I think they take it seriously because they need to keep convincing themselves. So they keep researching and digging and conjuring and hoping, wishing and praying it is all true.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:42:58pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

Director Comey is a registered Republican. He may well have told people like Issa that he would personally like to indict Hillary, but that the evidence doesn’t support it. That wouldn’t surprise me at all. After all the Harris County Prosecutor wanted to indict Planned Parenthood, but the investigation resulted in the grand jury indicting Daleiden and Meritt instead.

Right, wanting to indicate someone and there being enough evidence to is a different story. Issa’s being his usual unprofessional self.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:44:19pm

re: #28 Aunty Entity Dragon

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Pay close attention to the grammatical errors in that tweet. These racists are just not that bright.

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Tigger2  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:45:57pm

re: #135 Patricia Kayden

Pay close attention to the grammatical errors in that tweet. These racists are just not that bright.

They wouldn’t understand it if it was spelled right./

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Mike Lamb  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:47:57pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

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I’m sure she believed that Mike Brown charged Darrin Wilson, sooooooo……

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:49:57pm

re: #42 Aunty Entity Dragon

I think so. This was the clincher…

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Okay. It’s someone taking the mickey out of Rightwingers. LOL.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:50:09pm

re: #106 Emoprog Refugee

What is it with Nevada Assemblywomen?

It is about rationalizing, rather than inciting, hatred of the federal government. The GOP’s gentry/grifter/wannabe base in that part of the world already hate the feds with a white hot rage, since it is the federal government that brings EPA, OSHA, the Department of Labor, integration, consumer protection, and countless other restrictions on their liberty. They can’t say so directly, at least most of them can’t, so they need a strawman they can hang their hate on. The hate is real, the stated reasons are bullshit.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:50:42pm

re: #137 Mike Lamb

I’m sure she believed that Mike Brown charged Darrin Wilson, sooooooo……

Yeah, look who’s all “Hands up, don’t shoot” now.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:51:00pm

re: #137 Mike Lamb

I’m sure she believed that Mike Brown charged Darrin Wilson, sooooooo……

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:51:39pm

This reporter for the Oregonian is bringing the derp.:

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lawhawk  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:52:50pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:56:42pm

re: #133 ObserverArt

I think they take it seriously because they need to keep convincing themselves. So they keep researching and digging and conjuring and hoping, wishing and praying it is all true.

Honestly, I think a certain type of person loves to read and talk about this kind of thing were they can throw polysyllabic Greek jargon around and (pseudo) intellectualize a Grand Unified Theory of why they have better beliefs and morals than anybody else, why they absolutely should be able to silence and humiliate GLBT people, and that the world is all going down the drain.

In fact, that is actually going to be Rod’s next book (not joking).

It’s about The “Benedict Option” where he will discuss how special believers can hide their children from the tyranny of unsanctified nominalist culture and keep their enclaves safe from wicked transgendered people and “Moral Therapeutic Deists”. (his made up term for everybody who isn’t quite as zealous as he is)

I wouldn’t normally care, except that Rod has been one of the louder anti trans-women voices out there and conservative Christians of that particular type have been hawking him as a “serious intellectual”. Moreover, he is a senior editor of one of the better regarded conservative online periodicals. His attempts to dress up anti GLBT bigotry and give it elocution lessons do affect me and others.

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ObserverArt  Jan 29, 2016 • 1:58:59pm

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel

It is about rationalizing, rather than inciting, hatred of the federal government. The GOP’s gentry/grifter/wannabe base in that part of the world already hate the feds with a white hot rage, since it is the federal government that brings EPA, OSHA, the Department of Labor, integration, consumer protection, and countless other restrictions on their liberty. They can’t say so directly, at least most of them can’t, so they need a strawman they can hang their hate on. The hate is real, the stated reasons are bullshit.

Can you imagine the hellholes some of these states would be without some of the Fed agencies?

If people are making fun of the trash heaps left at the refuge in Oregon imagine that on a grand scale.

And yes, some states probably had some of that going on prior to people learning to freaking live a little cleaner forced by government to get their acts together.

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:01:59pm

That’s NOT a ridiculous example, though.

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:02:17pm

OK—this is fucked up, but it’s South by dog Carolina, so what else would you expect?

South Carolina Bill Would Create Registry For Police To Track Refugees

Though the bill does not single out refugees from Syria, Mulvaney did when speaking to state senators.

“If you let in the wrong Irishman-I’m fourth generation- if you let in the wrong Irishman the downside is really not that serious, okay,” he said, according the AP. “You let in the wrong Syrian refugee, one, then people can die as a result.”
talkingpointsmemo.com

Why Mulvaney and Duncan felt compelled to add their idiocy to the already overwhelming GOP idiocy in the state leg, I don’t know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:04:17pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

This reporter for the Oregonian is bringing the derp.:

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If it’s a white guy, he has to actually shoot a bullet at LE.

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WhatEVs  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:04:46pm

Days after the new contract was signed, a cafeteria manager quietly began calling some workers into his office. He demanded they sign paperwork acknowledging new job titles.

“I’m a cook, and I’ve always been a cook,” said 45-year-old Bertrand Olotara. “Now suddenly he’s telling me I’m a ‘food service worker.’ “

Olotara’s duties didn’t change; he’s still cooking burgers, eggs and Philly cheesesteaks, just as he always had.

Rather than getting the big raise Olotara expected as a cook — which would have upped his pay to $17.45 — he was entitled to just $13.80 as a “food service worker.”

Sure, that’s better than his old pay (which was $12.30). But it’s nowhere near what he was promised — or what senators proclaimed workers such as Olotara were entitled to.

Maybe the difference between $13.80 and $17.45 doesn’t sound like much. To Olotara, a single father of five children, it would have meant everything.

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ObserverArt  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:04:56pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

This reporter for the Oregonian is bringing the derp.:

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Well it’s obvious Frank. They didn’t give him a fighting chance.

Plus they only protect and side with police when they are shooting African Americans, Hispanics, Muslims and White Punks on Dope.

“Okay LaVoy…get your gun out of your jacket and then we will count to ten before unloading. So, you can get in a few free shots or take off running into the woods. Sound fair? ‘kay? Here we go…1…2…3…

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Nojay UK  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:05:17pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

And yes, some states probably had some of that going on prior to people learning to freaking live a little cleaner forced by government to get their acts together.

They have been living with the benefits of clean water, clean air and safe food for a generation or more and the anti-regulationists believe that is the natural state of the world and if outsiders would just stop telling them what to do they’d be even better off.

The idea that an untreated and unmonitored water supply could sicken and kill, that untested food might be swimming in harmful bacteria and the air they breathe could be thick with toxic waste from smokestacks upwind is not something they consider.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:07:09pm

re: #147 BeachDem

OK—this is fucked up, but it’s South by dog Carolina, so what else would you expect?

South Carolina Bill Would Create Registry For Police To Track Refugees

Though the bill does not single out refugees from Syria, Mulvaney did when speaking to state senators.

“If you let in the wrong Irishman-I’m fourth generation- if you let in the wrong Irishman the downside is really not that serious, okay,” he said, according the AP. “You let in the wrong Syrian refugee, one, then people can die as a result.”
talkingpointsmemo.com

Why Mulvaney and Duncan felt compelled to add their idiocy to the already overwhelming GOP idiocy in the state leg, I don’t know.

I think there are some serious constitutional problems with that proposal.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:08:36pm

re: #143 lawhawk

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Really Tucker is like Oskar Schindler. I missed where Tucker risked his life and saved the lives of thousands of people by standing up for Ann’s fascist asshole friend Donny.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:09:10pm

Yeah…why do I have the feeling that most of the people are members of the Harney County Committee of Public Safety?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:09:42pm

re: #147 BeachDem

OK—this is fucked up, but it’s South by dog Carolina, so what else would you expect?

South Carolina Bill Would Create Registry For Police To Track Refugees

Though the bill does not single out refugees from Syria, Mulvaney did when speaking to state senators.

“If you let in the wrong Irishman-I’m fourth generation- if you let in the wrong Irishman the downside is really not that serious, okay,” he said, according the AP. “You let in the wrong Syrian refugee, one, then people can die as a result.”
talkingpointsmemo.com

Why Mulvaney and Duncan felt compelled to add their idiocy to the already overwhelming GOP idiocy in the state leg, I don’t know.

Pretty rich shit Mick considering they said our people were dangerous. Really, you’re a disgrace to any Irish-American who actually knows what our ancestors went through. Way to go Mick, you’re just like Bill the Butcher and the Bowery Boys.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:10:09pm

re: #152 Aunty Entity Dragon

I think there are some serious constitutional problems with that proposal.

Hasn’t stopped them before.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:11:00pm

re: #151 Nojay UK

And yes, some states probably had some of that going on prior to people learning to freaking live a little cleaner forced by government to get their acts together.

I can’t find the reference right now, but troops were used to enforce New York City sanitation standards at times in the 19th Century.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:12:04pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart

Yeah…why do I have the feeling that most of the people are members of the Harney County Committee of Public Safety?

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Robespierre and Louis Antoine de St-Just would be amused.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:12:39pm

Link goes to entire memorandum in support of pretrial detention for all defendants

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:13:53pm

So Bristol Palin is whining about Tina Fey’s portrayal of her mother. “It’s been seven years.” Ah yes Bristol but your mother chooses to insert herself in the spotlight and act like we should somehow give a goddamn what she has to say.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:15:05pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:15:40pm

Yay!

Brandi Carlile: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:16:21pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

Yay!

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I’ve heard some of her stuff. Good artist. Congrats to her.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:16:33pm

re: #161 Dr. Matt

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Win.

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:18:06pm

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I’ve heard some of her stuff. Good artist. Congrats to her.

Have another:

Brandi Carlile - The Eye (Official Video)

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:18:24pm

re: #161 Dr. Matt

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Actually, not going was freaking brilliant. He still made it all about himself and being an outsider while allowing the others to pile on Ted Cruz.

Trump is smarter than the populist bullshitter he plays for the camera, which should be alarming us all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:18:41pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

Have another:

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Thanks

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:20:00pm

re: #152 Aunty Entity Dragon

I think there are some serious constitutional problems with that proposal.

Absolutely, but my lovely state morons love to spend money on worthless lawsuits (that way, they don’t have to use it to, you know, actually provide anything for the people of the state.) The whole thing is head-shakingly stupid, but his comment stood out as even more moronic than usual.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:20:30pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

Yay!

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Video

That was a tasty little set right there!

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Tigger2  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:21:19pm

re: #166 Aunty Entity Dragon

Actually, not going was freaking brilliant. He still made it all about himself and being an outsider while allowing the others to pile on Ted Cruz.

Trump is smarter than the populist bullshitter he plays for the camera, which should be alarming us all.

That’s why I don’t think he really believes a lot of that stuff that pops out of his mouth. But I still don’t want him to be the President.

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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:23:17pm

re: #158 Aunty Entity Dragon

Robespierre and Louis Antoine de St-Just would be amused.

The irony is that a lot of the fed-hating grifters and their tools would be carted off to the guillotine forthwith if the federal regulatory and law enforcement structure they profess to hate so much did somehow collapse. I have always thought that FDR, a bluebood and aristocrat of the highest order, created the New Deal to head off the kind of totalitarian revolution he saw sweeping the world in those days. It can’t happen here because we didn’t, and haven’t, let it happen. There is a whole political party and mass movement stupidly attempting to change that.

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BeachDem  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:23:38pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

Win.

Would be “winnier” if he spelled her name correctly. (Pedants r us)

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wrenchwench  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:24:54pm

re: #169 Aunty Entity Dragon

That was a tasty little set right there!

If they’ve ever had a bad Tiny Desk Concert, they must have had the desk eat them.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:25:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:32:48pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

Can you imagine the hellholes some of these states would be without some of the Fed agencies?

If people are making fun of the trash heaps left at the refuge in Oregon imagine that on a grand scale.

And yes, some states probably had some of that going on prior to people learning to freaking live a little cleaner forced by government to get their acts together.

I see it firsthand here in Texas. Before I left Lubbock, a certain local business was fined $40K plus six figures in restitution for not paying overtime to its hourly employees. These workers received an average wage of $8.40/hour during the period involved. The louts who own the place live in huge, if grossly tacky, mcmansions and drive the biggest 4WD crewcabs that will fit in the driveway, this being the apparent limit of their definition of the good life. One of them is a prominent leader and Sunday school teacher at one of the local gun-churches, widely praised for his love of the Lord and his inspiring lessons.
People like this are honestly perplexed that I despise them.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:35:27pm

re: #152 Aunty Entity Dragon

I think there are some serious constitutional problems with that proposal.

I think Irishmen everywhere feel slighted.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:36:59pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Really Tucker is like Oskar Schindler. I missed where Tucker risked his life and saved the lives of thousands of people by standing up for Ann’s fascist asshole friend Donny.

It’s probably about bow ties.

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TedStriker  Jan 29, 2016 • 2:38:28pm

re: #127 WhatEVs

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What’d you wind up getting? That MSI gaming laptop you posted a link to had good specs, but the Newegg reviews didn’t look so hot, especially about upgradability.

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Botsplainer  Jan 29, 2016 • 3:37:50pm

re: #105 WhatEVs

Fry is going to be very sad when he realizes that he’s going to miss the releases of the next 3 or 4 versions of Fallout, HALO, Call of Duty and Angry Birds…

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 29, 2016 • 4:02:08pm

re: #179 Botsplainer

If they go not-easy on him, what’s your guess for a likely sentence for him?


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