Monday Night Jam: Leon Bridges, “River”

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A beautiful video for a powerful song from Leon Bridges.

“River’ taken from Leon Bridges’ debut album ‘Coming Home’ - available now.

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Writer & Director: Miles Jay
Production: Smuggler & OPC
Executive Producer: Patrick Milling Smith, Brian Carmody, Harland Weiss, Allison Kunzman, Donovan Boden, Geoff McLean, Liz Dussault
Producer: Dennis Beier
Video Commissioner: Saul Levitz

Cast: Leon Bridges, Brittni Jessie, Maiya Mcknight, Grenard Barr, Jaylin J.J. Barr, Darien Whitaker, Jayme Delly

Cinematographer: Chayse Irvin
Production Design: Jade Healy & Erika Lobko
Wardrobe: Emma Potter
Editor: Ben Jordan - Work Editorial
Color: Tom Poole - Company 3
VFX: Steve Mottershead - Artjail
Sound Design: Stefano Campello - Heard City

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:13:10pm

Off topic, kind of, but his news from earlier today caught my eye:

British Researcher Gets Permission to Edit Genes of Human Embryos

But then, upon reading it, my most troubling thought is this - why is the NYT still publishing articles by f*cking Nicholas Wade.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:15:01pm
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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:15:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:18:29pm

re: #3 ausador

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You still suck NRO. So well done. Your efforts got a man who openly admires Jesse Helms the winner of Iowa. And you’re still the leading magazine for white nationalists who are too afraid to admit what they actually are.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:21:01pm

re: #3 ausador

He seems nice.

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:21:05pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Makes more sense now that the first tweet has been corrected to the one it was supposed to be.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:22:55pm

re: #5 Kragar

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He seems nice.

Clearly a liberal. Everyone knows only lefties are antisemites. Hey NRO, WFB would love that since he loved the Antisemitic Franco too.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:23:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:24:13pm

re: #8 Kragar

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Yep Ted Cruz who just today appeared with a man who thinks people who believe in same sex marriage should be wiped off the Earth but same sex marriage supporters are the intolerant ones because they believe secular law should be well secular law.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:24:40pm
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freetoken  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:24:42pm

US election 2016: who is Iowa caucus winner Ted Cruz?

[…]

He and his wife Heidi, a managing director at Goldman Sachs, live in Houston with their two daughters, Caroline and Catherine. His father is now a Texas pastor who draws plenty of his own attention, saying in the past that Barack Obama is a “Marxist” who should be sent “back to Kenya.”

[…]

In his 20s the high-flying Mr Cruz became an adviser on domestic policy to George W Bush during his 2000 presidential campaign. He then served as an associate deputy attorney general in the Bush administration. Did his boss like him? Not much. Mr Bush said recently: “I just don’t like the guy.”

[…]

Mr Cruz’s enjoys high levels of support from America’s millions of creationist, who deny evolution. As many as 46 per cent of Americans espouse a creationist view of the world in which God created humans in their present form in the last 10,000 years, according to a 2012 Gallup Poll.

[…]

The Brits know how to boil down Cruz’s essential nature. This, from the Torygraph at that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:25:38pm

re: #11 freetoken

US election 2016: who is Iowa caucus winner Ted Cruz?

The Brits know how to boil down Cruz’s essential nature. This, from the Torygraph at that.

He really is in some ways worse than Trump. They’re both bad of course.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:25:49pm
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Jenner7  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:26:29pm

Rabid Bernie supporters are only going to get worse…

Ugh.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:26:44pm

re: #13 Kragar

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Her record as a kingmaker is still awful. Hopefully she comes out strong for the GOP nominee.

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:27:44pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:27:50pm
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jaunte  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:27:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:28:19pm

re: #14 Jenner7

Rabid Bernie supporters are only going to get worse…

Ugh.

In some ways they really do remind me of Paul supporters- the purer than thou, the condescending bs ot anyone who doesn’t think their candidate is the white knight that’s going to save the country, etc. I like Bernie but he has real limitations that are fair game to discuss and it doesn’t make someone a DLC corpartist to point that out.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:29:16pm

I just received an email from Barbara Boxer asking for money because Ted Cruz won in Iowa. How in the hell did her SuperPAC get my email address? Grrr!

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:29:32pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

He really is in some ways worse than Trump. They’re both bad of course.

It’s between a shit sandwich and a giant douche.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:29:34pm

re: #18 jaunte

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I have no idea. He really is pathetic. Destroyed the coutnry? Ted can’t do anything but lie and scare up his supporters because if he ahd to be honest, they’d see what a coniving bastard this guy is.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:29:42pm

Relative checking in from Iowa… sez the majority of registered folk in the party in the precinct showed up at the caucus, largest turnout for them.

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TedStriker  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:30:07pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart

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Beck - Loser

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:30:27pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Ted probably raises money in Texas blaming Obama for low gas prices.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:30:38pm

re: #18 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:30:42pm

re: #25 jaunte

Ted probably raises money in Texas blaming Obama for low gas prices.

Probably.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:31:18pm

Best read while imagining the sound of a slamming door…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:31:19pm

re: #26 Kragar

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But somehow same sex marriage opponents are victimized because those who have the power to issue marriages can’refuse to do them.

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Sic semper evello dildos tyrannis  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:31:28pm

re: #18 jaunte

Yes.

How that for jet-black humor? Unambiguously, that is exactly what he means, yes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:31:33pm

Just fuck it. I’m in a mood right now, so I’m taking myself off to avoid friendly fire.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:31:54pm
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Testy Toad T  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:33:09pm

re: #8 Kragar

Trump did his job. He was so rat fucking insane he made that psychotic fuckstick Ted Cruz seem reasonable.

On the other hand, the last Iowa winner was Rick friggin’ Santorum…

Basically all’s I’m sayin’ is fuck the GOP.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:34:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:34:25pm

re: #33 Testy Toad T

On the other hand, the last Iowa winner was Rick friggin’ Santorum…

Basically all’s I’m sayin’ is fuck the GOP.

Really when the most sane GOP candidate is John Kasich. That really says a lot.

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:34:33pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:34:44pm

re: #14 Jenner7

Rabid Bernie supporters are only going to get worse…

Ugh.

“Hillary already declared victory an hour after voting closed. She’s garbage!”

Is all I’m hearing. Bernie is going to end up being the Modern Day Nader. And Trump will win because of his supporters.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:35:08pm

… Said relative being a Democrat… ‘nuther relative checks in, went to a Republican caucus, voted for the surging one…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:36:13pm
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allegro  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:36:21pm

re: #25 jaunte

Ted probably raises money in Texas blaming Obama for low gas prices.

I found a poll done by the Houston NBC news affiliate this evening kinda hilarious. It came in something like 42% Rubio, 28% Trump, 12% Cruz. Texans can’t stand Cruz either.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:36:52pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

“Hillary already declared victory an hour after voting closed. She’s garbage!”

Is all I’m hearing. Bernie is going to end up being the Modern Day Nader. And Trump will win because of his supporters.

I hope not. You’d really think that people would learn after 2000 but there are those who really think what needs to happen is for a Republican to really “ruin the country” and then for their progressive knight to ride in 2020 and save the day.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:37:29pm

Home from Union Station here in LA, amazed at the downed trees, date palm leaves all over the place and cold winds! Have my heater on full since I shut it off when I left on Friday morning. Thermometer in my main room showed 55 degrees. Oh i’m going to definitely sleep under my electric blanket tonight!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:37:53pm

re: #40 allegro

I found a poll done by the Houston NBC news affiliate this evening kinda hilarious. It came in something like 42% Rubio, 28% Trump, 12% Cruz. Texans can’t stand Cruz either.

I hope teh Texas Dems find a good candidate to run against him in 2018. I think he’s beatable.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:41:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:42:03pm

re: #44 De Kolta Chair

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I thought it was a lost Munsters episode where Grandpa runs for President.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:44:05pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:44:20pm

re: #42 Joe Bacon

That has to be absolutely miserable weather for L.A. Stay warm!

Here in the mountains at the headwaters of the Colorado River we’ve seen almost three feet of snow fall up high since Sunday evening.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:44:50pm

re: #46 Kragar

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I’m afraid this could be ugly.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:46:48pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

I hope teh Texas Dems find a good candidate to run against him in 2018. I think he’s beatable.

I don’t think Ted Cruz is going to run for reelection to the Senate in 2018. He’ll take some cushy lobbyist job with Americans For Prosperity or the Heritage Foundation and draw a multi-million dollar salary writing position papers advocating theocracy and Ayn Rand economics.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:47:26pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

I don’t think Ted Cruz is going to run in 2018. He’ll take some cushy lobbyist job with Americans For Prosperity or the Heritage Foundation and draw a multi-million dollar salary writing position papers advocating theocracy and Ayn Rand economics.

That honestly wouldn’t surprise me at all.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:47:29pm

re: #46 Kragar

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Many of the people who don’t like Hillary Clinton really don’t like her, and a visible minority of those people are Democrats.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:49:14pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Many of the people who don’t like Hillary Clinton really don’t like her, and a visible minority of those people are Democrats.

SHE’S A WITCH!

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Testy Toad T  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:49:39pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Many of the people who don’t like Hillary Clinton really don’t like her, and a visible minority of those people are Democrats.

Opposite, we consider Ted Cruz.

~~~ Concern!!! ~~~

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:51:30pm

I think a lot of Democratic voters do dislike her but her colleagues(who actually know her) like her which is more than you can say about the guy who won the Republican Party caucus tonight.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:52:53pm

DeRay knows what’s up.

Ever since I started following him last summer I’ve found his Twitter to be engaging and thoughtful. Dude is smart.

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Jenner7  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:53:24pm

They can hate her guts all they want, as long as they vote for her against a Republican.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:54:34pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I thought it was a lost Munsters episode where Grandpa runs for President.

;-) Bit o’ trivia: I and 53,532 other NYers voted for Al “Grampa Munster” Lewis in 1998 when he ran for governor on the Green Party ticket. (The pro-environment Green Party, not to be confused with the Lenora Fulani psychobabble-cult Green Party)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:55:06pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

DeRay knows what’s up.

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Ever since I started following him last summer I’ve found his Twitter to be engaging and thoughtful. Dude is smart.

The man flat out said he wished there had been 100 JEsse Helms in the Senate. He’s as racist as Trump. As theocratic wet dreaming as Huckabee and Santorum. He’s as uncaring about poor people as Bush, CHristie, and Paul are. And he’s an as big an asshole as Rubio is.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:55:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:55:50pm

re: #57 De Kolta Chair

;-) Bit o’ trivia: I and 53,532 other NYers voted for Al “Grampa Munster” Lewis in 1998 when he ran for governor on the Green Party ticket. (The pro-environment Green Party, not to be confused with the Lenora Fulani psychobabble-cult Green Party)

I think Malachy McCourt (brother of Frank of Angela’s Ashes fame) did one year too.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:56:05pm

re: #56 Jenner7

They can hate her guts all they want, as long as they vote for her against a Republican.

They won’t.

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Dark_Falcon  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:56:13pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I think a lot of Democratic voters do dislike her but her colleagues(who actually know her) like her which is more than you can say about the guy who won the Republican Party caucus tonight.

No argument there.

And I think we can agree on this: It’s now entirely a two-person race for the Democrats and largely a three-person race for the Republicans. Some other GOP candidates may linger a while, but Cruz, Trump and Rubio took 75% of the vote between the three of them and that is pretty decisive. And with O’Malley gone the final Dem debate will need to be held and its going to be a straight up Clinton-Sanders duel.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:57:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 9:59:38pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

No argument there.

and I think we can agree on this: It’s now entirely a two-person race for the Democrats and largely a three-person race for the Republicans. Some other GOP candidates may linger a while, but Cruz, Trump and Rubio took 75% of the vote between the three of them and that is pretty decisive. And with O’Malley gone the final Dem debate will need to be held and its going to be a straight up Clinton-Sanders duel.

Yeah I can go on with that.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:02:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:03:40pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

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Remember when she thought Clinton was petrified of her. That was a good one.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:03:58pm

Man, I don’t know about this. Radley’s inner dudebro is showing.

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gwangung  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:06:40pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

Man, I don’t know about this. Radley’s inner dudebro is showing.

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Pretty much. She MAY be a terrible candidate, but I doubt there’s more than two people in the last 40 years that could run a better campaign to beat her.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:07:34pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

Man, I don’t know about this. Radley’s inner dudebro is showing.

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Isn’t he a libertarian? Honestly, while I appreciate Radley’s critiques of the police system, I do wish him and his fellow libertarians would learn about how governing actually works. I’m not a huge HRC fan but I do think she takes issues seriously and isn’t completely ignoring them. She’s also most importantly not a so-con wacjob who would have appoint reactionary judges that would make Scalia look like Earl Warren.

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BeachDem  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:08:04pm

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

No argument there.

And I think we can agree on this: It’s now entirely a two-person race for the Democrats and largely a three-person race for the Republicans. Some other GOP candidates may linger a while, but Cruz, Trump and Rubio took 75% of the vote between the three of them and that is pretty decisive. And with O’Malley gone the final Dem debate will need to be held and its going to be a straight up Clinton-Sanders duel.

Not really the final debate, as they just added 4 (?) more, beginning with one next week in NH.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:08:18pm

I think if she wasn’t a Clinton, a lot of people wouldn’t feel so negatively about her. I really do. And I do think there’s definitely sexism too.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:08:41pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I think Malachy McCourt (brother of Frank of Angela’s Ashes fame) did one year too.

That was in 2006, but I voted for Spitzer because he did a good job as State Attorney General. Oh well. A late great bartender friend of mine here in NYC grew up with the McCourt’s in Limerick and always had a good word to say about Malachy, but he permanently 86ed Frank from McGovern’s Bar in the ’70s for being a consistent pain in the arse to the female patrons.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:10:00pm

re: #72 De Kolta Chair

That was in 2006, but I voted for Spitzer because he did a good job as State Attorney General. Oh well. A late great bartender friend of mine here in NYC grew up with the McCourt’s in Limerick and always had a good word to say about Malachy, but he permanently 86ed Frank from McGovern’s Bar for being a consistent pain in the arse to the female patrons.

Interestign stuff. I had high hopes for Spitzer. Thought he was at the very least AG material in a Democratic presidential administration.

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:13:41pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:13:57pm
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Jenner7  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:15:57pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

Sure. Both candidates say stuff that’s impossible to actually do.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:20:47pm

‘Night all. Now on to New Hampshire! Oh wait, WTF?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:21:46pm

The reason I don’t have much respect for Sanders is that he doesn’t really seem all that interested in governing. He make promises he doesn’t even realize he can’t keep, he doesn’t know snot about foreign policy I bet he really thinks he’s the next Barack Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:22:05pm

re: #76 Jenner7

Sure. Both candidates say stuff that’s impossible to actually do.

Indeed. I just can’t help but to think that these people who are so excited for Bernie are getting their hopes up. I really do. I mean if they seriously think he’s going to be able to deal with opposition in Congress better than Obama? I’m sorry but I just can’t. It’s not even ideological disagreement with me and that campaign. It’s that I think they are utterly unprepared for roadblocks and I think they really think that Bernie’s ideology will trumpet all.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:22:18pm

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

‘Night all. Now on to New Hampshire! Oh wait, WTF?

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WTF indeed.

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Jenner7  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:23:08pm

re: #77 De Kolta Chair

Oh goody.

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gwangung  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:23:23pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

WTF indeed.

Maybe. BUt I kinda doubt it’s going to change the delegate counts

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:24:00pm

re: #78 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The reason I don’t have much respect for Sanders is that he doesn’t really seem all that interested in governing. He make promises he doesn’t even realize he can’t keep, he doesn’t know snot about foreign policy I bet he really thinks he’s the next Barack Obama.

I’m really discouraged that someone who has been in Congress since 1990 hasn’t taken the time to educate themselves about FP. It’s a big part of the job. I winced when his campaign’s response to Iraq was pretty much “Well he voted against it.” SHit I was against Iraq from the start too but that doesn’t qualify me. They just think they can get by being right and that’s just simple minded.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:24:16pm

re: #82 gwangung

Maybe. BUt I kinda doubt it’s going to change the delegate counts

I don’t think so either but still carzy.

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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:24:21pm
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:30:03pm
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Jenner7  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:30:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:32:35pm

Whoa - the Rage Furby is going totally wacko on his Facebook page.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:33:07pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Whoa - the Rage Furby is going totally wacko on hos Facebook page.

As opposed to…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:34:20pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Whoa - the Rage Furby is going totally wacko on hos Facebook page.

What else is new? But seriously, I thought he’d be happy since he liked Cruz I thought. Granted I think Trump was gaining more favor with him as of late. Or is this related to something else.

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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:35:23pm

Let’s just hope this gets sorted out quickly.
“Some Democratic precinct results unaccounted for” - Desmoines Register

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:35:28pm

They went there

Iowa caucus: Cruz tops Trump, while Clinton and Sanders are in virtual tie

Virtual tie… as opposed to, well, just a tie?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:36:44pm

Is it just me or is the constant whining about the Democratic Party by the Sanders campaign really annoying? Okay listen, it’s a political party. And like it or not, they’re going to have favorites and they’re definitely going to have a favorite when one candidate isn’t even technically a member of said party. I get that Bernie caucuses with the Democrats but he technically hasn’t been a Democrat his career. Now you don’t have to love Clinton but Clinton has done a lot of work for the Democratic Party her career and that does mean something.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:38:00pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Whoa - the Rage Furby is going totally wacko on his Facebook page.

UpChuck is cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

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Brian J.  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:38:12pm

re: #92 freetoken

They went there

Iowa caucus: Cruz tops Trump, while Clinton and Sanders are in virtual tie

Virtual tie… as opposed to, well, just a tie?

Hillary leads by three delegates, 696 to 693, with 10 precincts left statewide. That’s eight to ten delegates probably left. Time has almost run out for Mr. Sanders.

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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:39:15pm

re: #92 freetoken

They went there

Iowa caucus: Cruz tops Trump, while Clinton and Sanders are in virtual tie

Virtual tie… as opposed to, well, just a tie?

Well, as of the last time I looked there is 0.2 difference. So, it is accurate to say virtual tie as opposed to an absolute tie.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:40:24pm

This is UpChuck on Facebook, this gesture to Ted Cruz over and over and over.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:41:47pm
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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:42:25pm

I could definitely see it with some of them…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:42:39pm

You’d think that little shit monkey would have learned a thing or two from the LAST time he went after Deray…

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Brian J.  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:43:04pm

re: #98 Kragar

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Yeah, it’s big. He’s a very popular… second place in his third most favorable state demographically. That path leads right back to his Senate office.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:44:13pm

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d think that little shit monkey would have learned a thing or two from the LAST time he went after Deray…

Does he ever learn?

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:44:36pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:46:48pm

UpChuck is a serious man. Ted Cruz has a fake-ass smirk that looks like two annelids hugging. And there’s UpChuck’s “hot Asian wife.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:46:54pm

re: #98 Kragar

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I actually do understand what Shaun is saying here. But honestly I just can’t take that too seriously since part of the reason why her lead was so big in the first place was name recon where she had it near universally and he had none. In those early polls, a lot of people just say they’ll vote for whoever the most famous name is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:49:30pm

re: #99 ausador

I could definitely see it with some of them…

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It wouldn’t shock me either unfortunately. All it takes is one disillusionment to a mindset like that and they feel the need to remake themselves over in the opposite extreme.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:49:48pm

There has to be twenty Facebook posts or so of UpChuck proclaiming his certainty of a Ted Cruz presidency and practically begging him for a position in his administration.

It’s fucking pitiful.

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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:51:22pm

re: #99 ausador

I could definitely see it with some of them…

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That’s sort of a sweeping generalization about the future. Hard to say what will happen… whatever the case is; the word socialism is becoming less of a hot potato now.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:54:13pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 10:56:57pm

I know some LGF denizens don’t like UpChuck being discussed, that we should ignore him. There’s the whole Charles Johnson thing, and if I were our Charles I would expose this fucker as the hound of hell he is just on name alone.

UpChuck is largely marginalized. And bringing up his bigotry and insanity at LGF when it pops up, I think, will keep UpChuck marginalized.

Besides, UpChuck hasn’t been a part of any discussion around here for some time. I’ve been wondering the last few days what the Rage Furby Ginger Avenger was up to. All it took was Ted Cruz winning the Iowa Caucus and UpChuck is spewing all kinds of fucking whatever.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:01:22pm

My first name is Charles.

Like Charles, I’m in this fight against UpChuck because he besmirches good Charles’s everywhere!

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Jenner7  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:03:01pm
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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:05:51pm

Smirk…

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:08:12pm

36 years ago this photo was taken.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:09:11pm

re: #113 ausador

Smirk…

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:10:37pm
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freetoken  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:13:49pm

re: #116 ausador

I find this kind of essentialism and attachment to social constructs like race rather off-putting.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:14:54pm

re: #116 ausador

I don’t think that is well thought out. In numbers, minorities make up about half the registration, but the Democrats can’t win a national race on their own. They need independents and crossovers. They overwhelming majority of them are white…

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:18:23pm

re: #118 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

…Many people think Barack Obama won in 2008 only because the black voters turned out, but the fact is that he landed a tremendous number of white voters. I wish I had time to look up the numbers, but that is my recollection.

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freetoken  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:18:24pm

What is “white”?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:19:47pm

re: #120 freetoken

White is when you don’t have to cross the street when you see one coming. When your mother in law doesn’t have to hit the door lock button in the car.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:20:27pm
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Jenner7  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:22:21pm

G’night. I’m not turning the news on tomorrow.

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:22:54pm

re: #120 freetoken

What is “white”?

“Western European”
/

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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:23:54pm
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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:28:38pm

re: #117 freetoken

I find this kind of essentialism and attachment to social constructs like race rather off-putting.

But it is the absolute truth, yuppies and Ivy league college students don’t elect Presidents. McCain took 59% of the White vote, Romney took 51%, without the minority vote Obama would have lost both races.

The GOP will still have the majority of white Voters this year too. He is just saying that much of the media pundit focus on upscale white opinion is misplaced while the lynchpin of the electorate is being ignored.

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gwangung  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:28:38pm

re: #119 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

…Many people think Barack Obama won in 2008 only because the black voters turned out, but the fact is that he landed a tremendous number of white voters. I wish I had time to look up the numbers, but that is my recollection.

If I recall, Obama LOST the white vote. By 20 percentage points.

His voting population was somewhere around 56% white, 44% minority.

nbcnews.com

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:34:08pm

re: #127 gwangung

It’s still 56%. That’s why some people are treating liberal whites as the Democratic base. What those numbers tell me is that Obama could not have won without white voters. There simply aren’t enough minority voters to carry the Democrats to a national win.

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Scout  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:34:29pm

I wonder if Trump’s lame results are the result of a bad ground game, as opposed to lack of supporters. The goobers who like him tend to be under-educated — the hardest type to get to actually show up, especially for a caucus-style primary.

Anyway, Rubio has always been the one who scares me the most. First off, I think he could actually be electable in the general, and he’s a PNAC neo-con, meaning he’ll get the U.S. into more wars, like the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq we saw in the Bush administration. (I guess that might be a sore spot on this blog, but I was one of those who protested against both those wars.)

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:36:52pm

re: #125 20Hz

My respect for Andy Richter has baby-stepped grown for many years just from watching him on Conan. And then I followed him on Twitter a while back. I can say one thing, he’s very honest on Twitter. And he’s also quite funny.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:37:34pm

re: #129 Scout

I wonder if Trump’s lame results are the result of a bad ground game, as opposed to lack of supporters. The goobers who like him tend to be under-educated — the hardest type to get to actually show up, especially for a caucus-style primary.

Anyway, Rubio has always been the one who scares me the most. First off, I think he could actually be electable in the general, and he’s a PNAC neo-con, meaning he’ll get the U.S. into more wars, like the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq we saw in the Bush administration. (I guess that might be a sore spot on this blog, but I was one of those who protested against both those wars.)

attn: Dark_Falcon

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gwangung  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:38:58pm

re: #128 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

It’s still 56%. That’s why some people are treating liberal whites as the Democratic base. What those numbers tell me is that Obama could not have won without white voters. There simply aren’t enough minority voters to carry the Democrats to a national win.

You cannot win without white liberals….and you cannot win without minorities. You need BOTH. And to speak of white liberals as the “base” is more than a little ethnocentric—-you’re not looking at nearly half your population.

And with demographic change, that 56% is shrinking.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:39:21pm

re: #129 Scout

I think his numbers are the result of the process. Caucusing is far different from voting in a primary. I think they’ll turn out next time.

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blueraven  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:41:00pm
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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:41:40pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

My respect for Andy Richter has baby-stepped grown for many years just from watching him on Conan. And then I followed him on Twitter a while back. I can say one thing, he’s very honest on Twitter. And he’s also quite funny.

I have had a similar experience in regards to Richter. When I first saw him on the Conan many years ago, I thought he was sort of funny but nothing special. I now think he is quite funny. It might just be my age \_(ツ)_/¯

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BeachDem  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:41:49pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

My respect for Andy Richter has baby-stepped grown for many years just from watching him on Conan. And then I followed him on Twitter a while back. I can say one thing, he’s very honest on Twitter. And he’s also quite funny.

Also smart (I love having the occasion to post this!)

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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:43:31pm

re: #136 BeachDem

Also smart (I love having the occasion to post this!)

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Is that Wolf Blitzer?

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blueraven  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:45:03pm

re: #134 blueraven

Just dropping this off before I drop off. Nasty, if true though.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:45:08pm

re: #132 gwangung

I’m not looking at white anything as the base. The question was posed about why people act like white liberals are the base of the party. I’m just giving my opinion on why that guy on ausador’s post said that. I think the Democrats do look at the whole spectrum of the population. Democrats can’t win without big support from whites AND minorities.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:45:34pm

re: #129 Scout

I wonder if Trump’s lame results are the result of a bad ground game, as opposed to lack of supporters.

No need to wonder. Ted Cruz had the ground game going on with the political and religious for a long time in Iowa, especially the religious. Robert Lee Van Der Plaats’ endorsement, Ted going to an evangelical church to speak at every campaign stop, these things helped Ted garner 40,000 or so votes towards a delegation that will vote on the nominee for president at the convention in Cleveland this summer.

Did any of that make sense?

Some number above 40,000 people voted Ted Cruz for President tonight. And it’s treated like a BFD by most corporate media.

I don’t get it.

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:48:00pm

re: #134 blueraven

A reporter I follow who is embedded with Carson was talking about that earlier. Apparently Cruz representatives at many of the caucus precincts were telling people Carson was withdrawing from the race. Carson’s people were not happy…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:48:35pm

Yes, Donald Trump’s fortune came from gambling, drinking and whoremongering. Not going to play well with God-fearin’ Christians in the American heartland. Might look different in other primaries where the voters are less righteous.

Downside is that Cruz’ smirk is going to grow even more intolerably self-satisfied.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:51:13pm

re: #141 ausador

Any Carson supporter who was dumb enough to believe it deserved to be tricked.

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:51:30pm

re: #139 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

The tweets were discussing news pundits, not the Democratic party itself.

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BeachDem  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:53:26pm

re: #137 20Hz

Is that Wolf Blitzer?

Yep—here he is in all his stupidity:
Wolf Blitzer FAILING on Celebrity Jeopardy - Highlights

That’s just the high (low)lights. There are other clips with more.

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ausador  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:53:44pm

I think they might be a tad premature…still funny though.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:54:00pm

re: #144 ausador

I know. I even said that the Democratic Party knows it can’t depend on just one type of voter. They need white and non-white voters to carry a national election. I think the pundits are going with the white liberal voter thing because that is where the real battleground is, trying to hang on to enough of them to get over the top.

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20Hz  Feb 1, 2016 • 11:56:29pm

re: #140 re: #145 BeachDem

Yep—here he is in all his stupidity:
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Video

That’s just the high (low)lights. There are other clips with more.

Holy crap! That is amazing! hahaha! No wonder his reporting sucks. He has a horrible memory for facts.

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ausador  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:13:41am

We can’t?

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:17:00am

Brazil says Zika virus outbreak worse than believed

Brazil’s top health official said on Monday that the Zika virus outbreak is proving to be worse than believed because most cases show no symptoms, but improved testing should allow the country to get a better grip on the burgeoning public health crisis.

Health Minister Marcelo Castro told Reuters that Brazil will start mandatory reporting of cases by local governments next week when most states will have labs equipped to test for Zika, the mosquito-borne virus that has quickly spread through Latin America. The virus has no vaccine or cure at present.

[…]

In Brazil, believed to be the country hit hardest by Zika, the outbreak has sparked fear especially among pregnant women after local experts linked the virus to thousands of cases of microcephaly, or abnormally small heads and underdeveloped brains, in newborns.

[…]

The Zika emergency comes at a particularly bad time for President Dilma Rousseff’s unpopular government, adding a new burden to a public health system hit by budget cuts in the midst of a severe recession. It has also cast a shadow on Brazil’s hosting of the Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro in August.

The Rousseff government said there was no chance the Games will be called due to the health scare.

[…]

No pandemic is going to stop our entertainment - nope, not any.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:21:12am

re: #150 freetoken

Brazil says Zika virus outbreak worse than believed

The Rousseff government said there was no chance the Games will be called due to the health scare.

No pandemic is going to stop our entertainment - nope, not any.

But you know that it is going to put a serious dent in the number of fans coming to Brazil to see the games.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:22:42am

Merciless journalism:

Bush’s Iowa performance is even worse than expected

The bar was low for Jeb Bush’s finish in Monday’s Iowa caucus. He failed to clear it anyway.

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ausador  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:24:30am
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Tigger2  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:25:04am

Beat me by a second lol

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:25:45am

… great minds and all that….

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ausador  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:28:03am
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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:32:31am

WHO declares global emergency over Zika virus

The World Health Organization declared a global emergency over the explosive spread of the Zika virus, which has been linked to birth defects in the Americas, calling it an “extraordinary event” that poses a public health threat to other parts of the world.

The U.N. agency took the rare step despite a lack of definitive evidence proving the mosquito-borne virus is causing a surge in babies born with brain defects and abnormally small heads in Brazil and following a 2013-14 outbreak in French Polynesia.

[…]

So, at the next GOP debate, what are the chances of someone raising a question about the UN and how we have to dismantle it… and then someone asking about the Zika virus?

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ausador  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:40:22am

re: #157 freetoken

WHO declares global emergency over Zika virus

So, at the next GOP debate, what are the chances of someone raising a question about the UN and how we have to dismantle it… and then someone asking about the Zika virus?

Zero minus infinty?

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ausador  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:41:20am
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Tigger2  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:42:55am

re: #159 ausador

Rubbing it in…

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Ouch I bet that hurts Trumps ego.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:49:53am

re: #160 Tigger2

Ouch I bet that hurts Trumps ego.

Two Corinthians come back to kick him in the butt…

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ausador  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:55:23am

One precinct remaining…

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Kragar  Feb 2, 2016 • 12:56:29am
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Kragar  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:02:01am
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ausador  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:16:26am

Dem caucus turnout numbers were just so so, record turnout still belongs to 2008 (Obama). So where is this revolution that is going to allow Bernie to bend a GOP Congress to his will? Where is the giant turnout that will alter the downticket races, hmm?

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:45:34am

So the only ‘Palin bump’ that still exists is when Bristol develops one to a dubious sire?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:50:04am

re: #167 100th Monkey

So the only ‘Palin bump’ that still exists is when Bristol develops one to a dubious sire?

I could make a joke about a bump that appears on the forehead of Track’s girlfriend, but that would be in utterly bad taste…

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:50:34am

re: #166 ausador

Republicans had a big turnout.

Can Rubio beat Hillary?

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D Koch  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:51:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:51:49am

re: #169 freetoken

Republicans had a big turnout.

Can Rubio beat Hillary?

I think he would be their best chance, Ted is despised and Donald is a joke.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:55:35am

RCP calls the Republican turnout “massive” (not “YUUUUUUUUGE”):

Ted Cruz Wins Iowa Caucuses with Massive Republican Turnout

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:58:26am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well it’s Obama’s fault, so I hear.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:59:05am

So, negative Nellie that I am, I’m wondering if the lackluster Dem turnout versus the record Republican turnout forebodes anything for November.

For all we criticize Sanders, at least his supporters are excited about him.

Not sure the same can be said for too many Hillary voters.

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teleskiguy  Feb 2, 2016 • 2:00:58am

re: #174 freetoken

Forget it, Jake. It’s Iowa.

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D Koch  Feb 2, 2016 • 2:06:05am
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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 2:09:20am

And now, an update on a story we all should follow:

‘Vagina Kayak’ Artist Faces Absurd Obscenity Fine In Japan

[…]

In an ongoing Japanese obscenity case, Megumi Igarashi heard Monday in Tokyo District Court that prosecutors want her to pay an 800,000-yen (about $6,600) fine for transmitting images of her genitals that could be reproduced into 3D objects, artnet.com reported.

[…]

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Scout  Feb 2, 2016 • 3:09:55am

re: #129 Scout

These guys confirm what I suspected. Jon Ward, Andrew Romano and Holly Bailey

While Trump’s staffers bluffed about their “fantastic” ground game — yet refused, when pressed, to divulge any details — members of Team Cruz openly boasted about the 5,000 volunteers they had lured to Iowa; the 100 state leaders and pastors they’d signed up, including Rep. Steve King, talk-radio host Steve Deace, and social conservative leader Bob Vander Plaats; and the millions they spent on data analytics and psychological profiling. All of their efforts were carefully calibrated to identify and turn out the most reliable caucusgoers of all: older, evangelical conservatives.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 3:30:53am

re: #178 Scout

These guys confirm what I suspected. Jon Ward, Andrew Romano and Holly Bailey

… turn out the most reliable caucusgoers of all: older, evangelical conservatives.

‘cause Je$u$ told ‘em to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 3:32:36am

re: #178 Scout

These guys confirm what I suspected. Jon Ward, Andrew Romano and Holly Bailey

All of their efforts were carefully calibrated to identify and turn out the most reliable caucusgoers of all: older, evangelical conservatives.

And these are the sort of people who look askance at a thrice married fellow who has made his fortune from gambling, selling booze and whoremongering, preferring a person who smirks, condescends and quotes scripture while trampling on the poor and afflicted.

Those Two Corinthians really came back to bite Trump in the butt.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2016 • 3:34:13am

This one goes out to all those Trump voters, who voted for a loser:

MP3 Audio

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:27:07am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

You still suck NRO. So well done. Your efforts got a man who openly admires Jesse Helms the winner of Iowa. And you’re still the leading magazine for white nationalists who are too afraid to admit what they actually are.

NRO is fine with everything you said though. They have no problems with White Supremacists. That’s why they’ve hired several on staff over the years.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:30:46am

re: #169 freetoken

Republicans had a big turnout.

Can Rubio beat Hillary?

He would be the most likely.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:32:55am

This is amazing, especially the incongruity in the sound and the video footage.

Peter Rowan, Tony Rice, & Tim O’Brien - “Shady Grove”

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:33:35am

After this Iowa caucus, as the great Captain Jack Sparrow has said, “I feel sullied and unusual.”

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:43:16am

re: #56 Jenner7

They can hate her guts all they want, as long as they vote for her against a Republican.

Amen. I hope Senator Sanders is gracious when he loses against Secretary Clinton and enthusiastically endorses her campaign in the general election. We have to go into November as a united front against whichever Clown Car Occupant is on the other side.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:43:38am

re: #169 freetoken

Republicans had a big turnout.

Can Rubio beat Hillary?

Trump is a joke and Cruz is reviled even within his party, Rubio is fresh and could be easily doctored up to have a lot of appeal to people who do not want to vote for Hillary.

Heck, even I don’t wanna vote for her, I just don’t see any other reasonable alternative, so I probably will.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:48:47am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

What exactly do you not like about Secretary Clinton? Is some of it based on the relentless smear campaign which Republicans have been operating against her since the 1990s?

I do not love her like I love our current President, but I have no ill feelings about her. She’s alright and will make a good President (or a measurably better one than any Republican currently running).

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:54:45am

re: #188 Patricia Kayden

What exactly do you not like about Secretary Clinton? Is some of it based on the relentless smear campaign which Republicans have been operating against her since the 1990s?

I do not love her like I love our current President, but I have no ill feelings about her. She’s alright and will make a good President (or a measurably better one than any Republican currently running).

Hillary brings a lot of unpleasant baggage with her, but I have no major ill feelings about her, she is certainly the most qualified candidate campaigning and immeasurably better than anyone the GOP could field.

My main problem is personal: when she is officially nominated, the political climate is going to get so shrill and ugly (even more so than under Obama) that I will probably be forced to forego my favorite pastime, namely following politics.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:57:30am

So has The Donald spoken about his second place finish last night?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 4:59:58am

re: #190 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So has The Donald spoken about his second place finish last night?

I imagine he is just going to let it wash over and concentrate on his first Big Win

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:01:08am

GAAAKK—Every damn YouTube vid here in AL is forwarded by an unskippable Richard Shelby blurb. Puke bastard.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:05:49am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The Clinton years to come will be remarked upon as being a necessary, if awkward use of a veteran Democrat to uphold the Obama years’ progress.
Clinton will make her mistakes. She will no doubt disappoint. But good-goddamn it she knows whose legacy she upholds and, at this point knows, what the disloyal opposition stands for.
If you’re even casting your vote merely as a berm against the hordes of know-nothings or the swell of ignorant let’s-try-another or even if your vote stands in the place of a person you know well who is too apathetic to even try: your foot-dragging is noted, but when Castro is the VP pick, know the future is being cultivated now and belly-aching is getting fucking old.
Cannot wait for the obligatory ‘look, I like Bernie’ disclaimers to end for the precious petals whose unicorns are already ordered for the advent of the glorious revolution. This shit is too important and I’m counting on you Yankee bastids to bring it about.

I aim to be an utter asshole about this. Issues about foreign influence be damned.

Night.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:06:59am

Apologies for the tone. I have Canadian manners.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:09:54am

The librul MSM is cackling like a bunch of Stepford wives acting like the Clinton campaign is on the verge of death.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:10:20am

re: #140 teleskiguy

No need to wonder. Ted Cruz had the ground game going on with the political and religious for a long time in Iowa, especially the religious. Robert Lee Van Der Plaats’ endorsement, Ted going to an evangelical church to speak at every campaign stop, these things helped Ted garner 40,000 or so votes towards a delegation that will vote on the nominee for president at the convention in Cleveland this summer.

Did any of that make sense?

Some number above 40,000 people voted Ted Cruz for President tonight. And it’s treated like a BFD by most corporate media.

I don’t get it.

Also worth noting that Trump did little to no voter-to-voter, “retail” politicking in Iowa, just flew in and out for large rallies. Very unconventional for Iowa. For a so-called “ordinary” guy, not a good look.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:12:11am

Ted’s dad just does not look like a pleasant fellow.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:13:18am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:15:38am

Marco-Mentum!!!

Just shoot me.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:15:46am

re: #193 100th Monkey

Your diatribe is the reason I support Bernie.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:21:18am

re: #188 Patricia Kayden

What exactly do you not like about Secretary Clinton? Is some of it based on the relentless smear campaign which Republicans have been operating against her since the 1990s?

I do not love her like I love our current President, but I have no ill feelings about her. She’s alright and will make a good President (or a measurably better one than any Republican currently running).

For a long time, it’s felt like her views on the most contentious issues have been “what will it be good to tell voters five years from now that I supported today?” That’s why she voted for the Iraq War, that’s why she took her sweet time about coming around on gay marriage, that’s why when her husband was president they were all-in on DOMA, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, welfare reform, three strikes and repealing Glass-Stiegel.

She knows which voters she’s aiming for, and she’s relentlessly practical about pursuing them, but everything’s so poll-tested I have a hard time finding anything she Truly Deeply believes. She’s like those people you knew in college who were just slightly above average intellectually, and got their excellent grades from being the grindiest grinders who ever grinded.

As President, she’ll be competent every day. When stuff happens that a President has to respond to, she’ll respond non-stupidly. She’ll research the hell out of everything, know all the details, and follow the right experts. But she’ll have no pro-active agenda of her own.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:22:29am

In my opinion, many Hillary supporters feel she is the ‘anointed one’. I am a New Yorker, and my views my be jaded, but I see her as a carpet bagger and a quitter.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:22:54am

CNN is running a countdown clock for a Democratic Town Hall debate in three days.

Make it stop.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:24:20am

?re: #202 Kent Dorfman

In my opinion, many Hillary supporters feel she is the ‘anointed one’. I am a New Yorker, and my views my be jaded, but I see her as a carpet bagger and a quitter.

You don’t speak for [many] Hillary supporters.

You do sound jaded. Are you upset because she didn’t buy you a pony?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:24:47am

re: #193 100th Monkey

In an ideal world, Bernie would be my man, but in the real world, HRC is the only viable choice.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:25:02am

re: #203 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

CNN is running a countdown clock for a Democratic Town Hall debate in three days.

Make it stop.

Have they started running Town Hall simulators yet? Wait for it….

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:25:57am

re: #202 Kent Dorfman

In my opinion, many Hillary supporters feel she is the ‘anointed one’. I am a New Yorker, and my views my be jaded, but I see her as a carpet bagger and a quitter.

She’s a lot of things, but quitter isn’t one of them. Nobody sees her as that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:26:03am

re: #204 Dr. Matt

?

You don’t speak for [many] Hillary supporters.

You do sound jaded. Are you upset because she didn’t buy you a pony?

I am glad to see that Bernie is giving her a run, stepping up as the “Anointed One” would have put her at a disadvantage. Let her work for her nomination.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:28:05am

re: #204 Dr. Matt

That’s why I am voting for Bernie, reading comprehension, how does it work?!

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:29:40am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In an ideal world, Bernie would be my man, but in the real world, HRC is the only viable choice.

I’ll support any ‘D’ that can will the White House for one single and vital reason: The SCOTUS. The next POTUS will likely nominate 2 or more openings on the High Court. If Bernie loses and his dudebros decide to stay home because they didn’t get their way, they deserve every shitty decision the High Court will bring down on this country for another generation.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:31:16am

re: #209 Kent Dorfman

That’s why I am voting for Bernie, reading comprehension, how does it work?!

Clearly you are voting for Bernie for very obtuse and non-consequential reasons. Please proceed.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:33:07am

re: #200 Kent Dorfman

Your diatribe is the reason I support Bernie.

I’ll say it one last time, and you can have the honour of being the recipient.

I like Bernie Sanders. Quite a bit. I was thrilled when he entered the race.

I’m glad you said that it was my diatribe that makes you support him because it merely suggests a contrarian attitude. An attitude all too common amongst Sanders supporters.
Still I notice that people tend to tread on eggshells when approaching the subject of support of Clinton.
You’re welcome.

Night for reals now.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:33:24am

re: #211 Dr. Matt

No need to insult those who disagree with you.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:33:59am

re: #194 100th Monkey

Apologies for the tone. I have Canadian manners.

As a former Canadian, I approve of your manners.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:34:50am

re: #210 Dr. Matt

I’ll support any ‘D’ that can will the White House for one single and vital reason: The SCOTUS. The next POTUS will likely nominate 2 or more openings on the High Court. If Bernie loses and his dudebros decide to stay home because they didn’t get their way, they deserve every shitty decision the High Court will bring down on this country for another generation.

The GOP is fully and openly in favor of rescinding almost all the gains we have made in personal freedoms, gay, women’s and minority rights over the past 50 years (or more).

Not to mention the progress we have made in environmental and consumer rights, while the already disastrous erosion of labor rights we have seen in recent decades would become even more pronounced.

I cannot imagine supporting anyone that party nominates.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:34:55am

I love it, Hillary wins by a red curly hair, and her supporters are already picking out the color of the drapes in the White House.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:36:44am

re: #216 Kent Dorfman

I love it, Hillary wins by a red curly hair, and her supporters are already picking out the color of the drapes in the White House.

Once again, you don’t speak for her supporters.

Let me guess, your reply will be: “That’s why I’m voting for Bernie”

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:37:51am

re: #216 Kent Dorfman

I love it, Hillary wins by a red curly hair, and her supporters are already picking out the color of the drapes in the White House.

So if Secretary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, will you vote for her in November? That’s really what this all boils down to in the end.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:38:19am

Trump’s Twitter feed has been inactive for over 12 hours.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:39:35am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Trump’s Twitter feed has been inactive for over 12 hours.

Translation: Butthurt

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:39:41am

Rage Furby has an actual news story on his blog, but, true to form, manages to make the story as murky as pea soup.

Instead he takes time to mock Gawker Media, his nemesis, and violate someone else’s copyright.

Here’s the gist of the story.

Nick Denton has sold has proposed selling a minority stake in Gawker Media to a Russian conglomerate headed by Viktor Vekselberg. This same Vekselberg was implicated in a plot to kill an Australian free-lance journalist, John Helmer, in 2010. Rage Furby attempts to connect the dots, but mostly just copies a large section of prose from a South African website with Afrikaner/white supremacist leanings.

The website’s banner says this: “Censorbugbear reports… detailed reports are posted daily about the Afrikaner/Boer genocide …”

Link to report about the Gawker deal wsj.com

Link to Rolling Stone article about Helmer rollingstone.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:40:15am

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Trump’s Twitter feed has been inactive for over 12 hours.

He got his thumbs stuck in his big, pouty, swollen lower lip.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:42:06am

re: #218 Patricia Kayden

Right now, no, but my decision may evolve as the race plays out. This country needs to be united by a strong leader. This leader needs to reach across the aisle.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:43:06am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area the day after Iowa spent 24 hours in relevance politically.

Now, Iowa can recede back into the recesses of history to reemerge four years from now.

The state’s ability to prognosticate is on par with the groundhogs around the country.

For all the talk of who won last night, let’s remember who else won the state previously. Say hello to President Santorum (2012). President Hucakbee (2008). President Harkin (1992). President Gephardt/Dole (1988). President Bush (1980). Uncommitted (1976; 1972). In the other years/races, the candidate was either unopposed, or the eventual winner of the caucus became the nominee.

A dartboard has more accuracy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:43:53am

re: #223 Kent Dorfman

Right now, no, but my decision may evolve as the race plays out. This country needs to be united by a strong leader. This leader needs to reach across the aisle.

To get her hand smacked down…

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:46:11am

re: #223 Kent Dorfman

Right now, no, but my decision may evolve as the race plays out. This country needs to be united by a strong leader. This leader needs to reach across the aisle.

President Obama reached out across the aisle and was slapped down by Republicans. Remember that?

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:46:30am

re: #216 Kent Dorfman

There’s something to be said for the demographics of Iowa and how they favor one candidate over another, and how the process of caucus differs from actual primary election voting.

Hillary’s still likely to prevail in the general election, and she did rack up more delegates (and superdelegates), which is the only thing that matters at this point.

So, all the talk of a close result last night doesn’t exactly spell doom, or eventual success, but whoever racks up the most delegates/superdelegates has a much easier time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:47:42am

re: #227 lawhawk

So, all the talk of a close result last night doesn’t exactly spell doom, or eventual success, but whoever racks up the most delegates/superdelegates has a much easier time.

So Hillary has a better rack…

…of delegates?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:48:01am
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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:48:09am

re: #223 Kent Dorfman

There isn’t anyone on the Democrat side that the GOP will find willing to work with. The GOP has moved so far to the right that they’re the party of No. They’re the party of obstructionism, and anything that requires even the slightest bit of negotiation or compromise is seen by the GOP rank and file as a giveaway, rather than politics - where everyone gets something.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:49:59am

re: #229 Dr. Matt

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re: #229 Dr. Matt

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It really says a lot that someone like this can get elected to Congress. She really is a special kind of loony.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:51:08am

re: #229 Dr. Matt

Bachmann warns Obama will take over the United Nations — and then reveal he’s the Antichrist

The point is that nobody in the GOP will disavow or distance themselves from such utter batshit lunacy; if anything they will praise her for her courage and her passion to speak her mind on important issues.

And that is why the party is still in a race to hit bottom and despite some of the ridiculous things we have heard so far, still far from hitting it.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:51:31am

re: #230 lawhawk

There isn’t anyone on the Democrat side that the GOP will find willing to work with. The GOP has moved so far to the right that they’re the party of No. They’re the party of obstructionism, and anything that requires even the slightest bit of negotiation or compromise is seen by the GOP rank and file as a giveaway, rather than politics - where everyone gets something.

And if a Democrat wins the White House again this year, the GOP will only move further to the right and will continue to do everything in their power to undermine the Presidency and this country.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:52:17am

re: #230 lawhawk

Keep in mind that on the day President Obama was inaugurated in 2009, top Republicans met together to discuss how they would vote against every single one of President Obama’s initiatives and obstruct him in every way possible. You can see how that played out.

I have zero reasons to believe that Republicans would work with a President Sanders any more than with a President Clinton.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:53:25am

Under this scenario, what would be the advantage of a Clinton presidency over Sanders?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:53:58am

Honestly, I do wish the likely nominee was someone other than Clinton. But let’s not kid ourselves the nominee will always be despised by the Republicans and there will be created a cottage industry to despise him from the ground up. Look at Carter, Bill Clinton, and Obama, three people who weren’t that well known when they first ran for President but have been made into comic book villains by the right. Obama in 2004 gave one of the most uniting keynote speeches I ever seen and I think despite his frustration with Republican bullshit still does want to work across the aisle. Frankly the past is romanticized. Yeah it’s true O’Neill and Reagan did work together on some stuff but it’s also true that Reagan went behind the O’Neill House’s back with what they did with the Contras.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:54:38am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The point is that nobody in the GOP will disavow or distance themselves from such utter batshit lunacy; if anything they will praise her for her courage and her passion to speak her mind on important issues.

And that is why the party is still in a race to hit bottom and despite some of the ridiculous things we have heard so far, still far from hitting it.

Yep. No one in the GOP has the courage to say that this Anti-Christ talk is really unbecoming for any party.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:55:32am

re: #235 Amory Blaine

She’s far more attuned to the politics and policy, and might be more able to keep parts of her agenda intact. Sanders is less likely to achieve that.

But both candidates would benefit greatly from reducing the GOP majority in the House and/or Senate (if not retaking them outright). Doubt it’s possible to retake both, but pushing out some of the extremists might go a long way to making sure that the next four years aren’t an incessant stream of Obamacare repeal bills (a repeat of the past 6+).

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:56:01am

re: #235 Amory Blaine

Under this scenario, what would be the advantage of a Clinton presidency over Sanders?

There probably isn’t an advantage or disadvantage with either one in today’s political climate. Both would make fine and competent Presidents who will unfortunately have to spend every waking moment battling the Party of No and Obstructionism.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:57:37am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Yep. No one in the GOP has the courage to say that this Anti-Christ talk is really unbecoming for any party.

Reagan (and even HW Bush) would have laughed, mocked, and ignored anyone that said such nonsense in their days.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:58:03am

re: #201 sagehen

For a long time, it’s felt like her views on the most contentious issues have been “what will it be good to tell voters five years from now that I supported today?” That’s why she voted for the Iraq War, that’s why she took her sweet time about coming around on gay marriage, that’s why when her husband was president they were all-in on DOMA, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, welfare reform, three strikes and repealing Glass-Stiegel.

She knows which voters she’s aiming for, and she’s relentlessly practical about pursuing them, but everything’s so poll-tested I have a hard time finding anything she Truly Deeply believes. She’s like those people you knew in college who were just slightly above average intellectually, and got their excellent grades from being the grindiest grinders who ever grinded.

As President, she’ll be competent every day. When stuff happens that a President has to respond to, she’ll respond non-stupidly. She’ll research the hell out of everything, know all the details, and follow the right experts. But she’ll have no pro-active agenda of her own.

I was at HQDA, writing PowerPoint haikus for the generals when DADT was introduced. It was the most progressive possible advance at the time. The choice was between DADT and continued criminalization.

Edited: DOMA DADT

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 5:59:02am

re: #235 Amory Blaine

Under this scenario, what would be the advantage of a Clinton presidency over Sanders?

That there could actually be a Clinton presidency under this astral plane.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:05:03am

This is why an armed society is a society more likely to shoot one another for no good reason:

I really hope Law Enforcement catches up with these hillbilly hicks.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:08:19am

Yikes:

The plane landed without incident, and there’s reportedly only minor injuries. Several passengers were being questioned. That definitely looks like someone smuggled some kind of explosive on board with the hopes of knocking the plane out of the sky.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:09:06am

re: #103 ausador

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Strip away the real ruin and misery these people want to bring on the rest of us, and underneath you find a sitcom plot, every single time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:11:35am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Yep. No one in the GOP has the courage to say that this Anti-Christ talk is really unbecoming for any party.

and for anyone with a brain

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:13:17am

re: #242 Decatur Deb

That there could actually be a Clinton presidency under this astral plane.

Again, in an ideal world, Bernie would be my man. But in this tedious real world we live in, Hillary is the only viable option.

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Great White Snark  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:16:51am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:17:36am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and for anyone with a brain

Heh yeah no doubt. Really, this talk is part of why in some ways things have gotten more nuts.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:17:53am

re: #243 Dr. Matt

This is why an armed society is a society more likely to shoot one another for no good reason:

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I really hope Law Enforcement catches up with these hillbilly hicks.

Psychotic dickbags.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:19:27am

I think what we have to realize is what our opposition is. Over 50% of Iowa Republicans voted for Cruz or Trump last night. They want people like that not only in Congress but as our President. We’re not dealing with a sane opposition, shit we’re not even dealing with Newt Gingrich circa 1995.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:21:04am

www.loser.com

Consider yourself ReDirected….

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Great White Snark  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:30:10am

vine.co

Local news, 92 year old WW2 vet was threatened by a man breaking into his home. he grabbed a pistol, put a shot into the wall next to the intruder, who then fled. He says he practices regularly.

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withak  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:33:07am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

It really says a lot that someone like this can get elected to Congress. She really is a special kind of loony.

She’s really shown her true colors since deciding not to run again, and thankfully, while her replacement is a Tea Party doofus, at least he’s a quiet, unassuming Tea Party doofus who seems actually interested in, y’know, governing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:38:52am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

It really says a lot that someone like this can get elected to Congress. She really is a special kind of loony.

Louie Gohmert will be with us until they wheel him out on a stretcher…

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:39:31am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Hillary brings a lot of unpleasant baggage with her, but I have no major ill feelings about her, she is certainly the most qualified candidate campaigning and immeasurably better than anyone the GOP could field.

My main problem is personal: when she is officially nominated, the political climate is going to get so shrill and ugly (even more so than under Obama) that I will probably be forced to forego my favorite pastime, namely following politics.

I personally realize we’ll probably get less done with the first female president than a white male, but we’re never going to grow as a country until it, like the racism, is brought out into the open. To tell you the truth, I think the next president needs to be a black female (lesbian would be a nice trait as well). We’ve seen the racism, but we haven’t dealt with it. We’re going to see the misogyny, but will we have time to deal with it? Now, is there a black female willing to take that kind of abuse? I don’t know, but if she runs for president, I will support her.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:39:48am

re: #254 withak

She’s really shown her true colors since deciding not to run again, and thankfully, while her replacement is a Tea Party doofus, at least he’s a quiet, unassuming Tea Party doofus who seems actually interested in, y’know, governing.

I was wodnering about her replacement.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:40:18am

re: #200 Kent Dorfman

Your diatribe is the reason I support Bernie.

Really?

I should hope people put a little thought into why they are voting for someone not making that decision on what and why someone else says who they are voting for.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:42:18am

re: #256 Belafon

I personally realize we’ll probably get less done with the first female president than a white male, but we’re never going to grow as a country until it, like the racism, is brought out into the open. To tell you the truth, I think the next president needs to be a black female (lesbian would be a nice trait as well). We’ve seen the racism, but we haven’t dealt with it. We’re going to see the misogyny, but will we have time to deal with it? Now, is there a black female willing to take that kind of abuse? I don’t know, but if she runs for president, I will support her.

Only one black female senator in history, Donna Edwards is running in Maryland though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:42:42am

re: #256 Belafon

… if [Hillary] runs for president, I will support her.

I suppose I will too, I just wish there was someone else to vote for and not just a least-worst-case scenario..

But I am not about to get whiny and stamp my feet and threaten to do something stupid just because I do not get to vote for my favorite color of Unicorn Rainbow…

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withak  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:43:01am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

I was wodnering about her replacement.

He’s gone from a Limbaugh wannabe to an establishment kinda guy. I still don’t like him or his positions, but at least he’s not a total loon — I expected us to just get Bachmann Redux given his past on the radio.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:43:30am

re: #201 sagehen

For a long time, it’s felt like her views on the most contentious issues have been “what will it be good to tell voters five years from now that I supported today?” That’s why she voted for the Iraq War, that’s why she took her sweet time about coming around on gay marriage, that’s why when her husband was president they were all-in on DOMA, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, welfare reform, three strikes and repealing Glass-Stiegel.

She knows which voters she’s aiming for, and she’s relentlessly practical about pursuing them, but everything’s so poll-tested I have a hard time finding anything she Truly Deeply believes. She’s like those people you knew in college who were just slightly above average intellectually, and got their excellent grades from being the grindiest grinders who ever grinded.

As President, she’ll be competent every day. When stuff happens that a President has to respond to, she’ll respond non-stupidly. She’ll research the hell out of everything, know all the details, and follow the right experts. But she’ll have no pro-active agenda of her own.

You might need to go look at her history, such as when she impersonated a mom in the South looking to get her kid into a white-only school in the early 70s. She was part of a group that tried to stop the rise of academies made to continue segregation.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:43:38am

re: #202 Kent Dorfman

In my opinion, many Hillary supporters feel she is the ‘anointed one’. I am a New Yorker, and my views my be jaded, but I see her as a carpet bagger and a quitter.

Ahhh. The truth comes out. It has nothing to do with what someone says about Hillary.

By the way, aren’t you really a conservative/Republican ultimately?

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whitebeach  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:44:30am

re: #235 Amory Blaine

Under this scenario, what would be the advantage of a Clinton presidency over Sanders?

Foreign policy alone would make enough difference for me. From her years as First Lady through her years as Secretary of State, Hillary has FP experience that is wide and deep. Meanwhile Bernie shows only marginally more knowledge of or interest in FP than, say, Ben Carson. And even if the Repubs maintain numbers and continue to kick and scream and hold their breaths, FP will remain largely the responsibility of the president.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:46:45am

re: #216 Kent Dorfman

I love it, Hillary wins by a red curly hair, and her supporters are already picking out the color of the drapes in the White House.

Drama!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:48:24am

re: #261 withak

He’s gone from a Limbaugh wannabe to an establishment kinda guy. I still don’t like him or his positions, but at least he’s not a total loon — I expected us to just get Bachmann Redux given his past on the radio.

Our old and longtime Congressman, Frank Wolf was very much an establishment guy. He retired and his replacement was Barbara Comstock who has filled that mold- she’s endorsing Rubio and really hasn’t been a Fire Eater like Dick Black(state senator, an apologist for rape, and Cruz’s state co-chair). It’s good he’s not a total loon. I mean you take what you can get.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:48:41am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I suppose I will too, I just wish there was someone else to vote for and not just a least-worst-case scenario..

But I am not about to get whiny and stamp my feet and threaten to do something stupid just because I do not get to vote for my favorite color of Unicorn Rainbow…

I’m actually enthusiastic about Hillary, as I was when I supported Obama in 2008. I’m a pragmatic Democrat: I still believe the future will be better if we pick the right people, I don’t think things make big jumps but small changes over time, and I think Clinton is the best one to do it right now.

I personally do not understand the hold-my-nose mentality. But then again, I’ve had to accept lots of small wins over my life rather than a super big win. The flip side is, I don’t accept “here’s one small trick for getting Single Payer and free college education.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:50:02am

re: #262 Belafon

You might need to go look at her history, such as when she impersonated a mom in the South looking to get her kid into a white-only school in the early 70s. She was part of a group that tried to stop the rise of academies made to continue segregation.

I never heard about this. Sounds interesting.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:50:33am

One was a guy who sought out a violent confrontation with cops and ended up engaging in suicide by cop - all while pushing violent threats while occupying federal lands.

The other was a black guy who was walking in the street.

Yeah, they’re just alike. /

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withak  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:51:12am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Our old and longtime Congressman, Frank Wolf was very much an establishment guy. He retired and his replacement was Barbara Comstock who has filled that mold- she’s endorsing Rubio and really hasn’t been a Fire Eater like Dick Black(state senator, an apologist for rape, and Cruz’s state co-chair). It’s good he’s not a total loon. I mean you take what you can get.

I was pissed at first when Graves, the hotel magnate who narrowly lost to Bachmann on her last go-round, packed it in when Bachmann announced she was retiring. But he knew he had no chance against a not-insane R candidate in this district, so yeah, I’ll take what I can get…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:51:24am

re: #269 lawhawk

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One was a guy who sought out a violent confrontation with cops and ended up engaging in suicide by cop - all while pushing violent threats while occupying federal lands.

The other was a black guy who was walking in the street.

Yeah, they’re just alike. /

Right, the two situations couldn’t be moer different.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:51:53am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:52:48am

re: #270 withak

I was pissed at first when Graves, the hotel magnate who narrowly lost to Bachmann on her last go-round, packed it in when Bachmann announced she was retiring. But he knew he had no chance against a not-insane R candidate in this district, so yeah, I’ll take what I can get…

Yeah I’ve had GOP representation on Congressional level I think my entire life. Comstock isn’t as bad as Black. It does suck though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:54:00am

re: #269 lawhawk

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One was a guy who sought out a violent confrontation with cops and ended up engaging in suicide by cop - all while pushing violent threats while occupying federal lands.

The other was a black guy who was walking in the street.

Yeah, they’re just alike. /

In the modern RWNJ mentality, the two are identical.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:56:16am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

In the modern RWNJ mentality, the two are identical.

Hands up don’t shoot - but resist law enforcement at every opportunity because freedom!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:56:45am

In today’s climate, neither Hillary or Bernie will be able to do much. I’ll happily vote for either one, as their own individuals.

I am anxious to see who they pick as their VPs. Bernie will most likely pick someone just like himself. I think Hillary will pick an up-and-comer younger male Liberal. Possibly a minority… Someone that would offset the “she’s old/she’s a Clinton” crowd. And someone who could refresh the party as a whole. Who that may be? I’m clueless.

I don’t care about Iowa. It’s meaningless. The only poll that matters is the one in November. But seeing Trump lose something, the looks on his trophy wife’s/kids faces, and the fact he hasn’t Tweeted anything in 12+ hours has made my week.

Cruz is unelectable on a national stage. He scares me, but him ever becoming President? Never. Gonna. Happen. (Unlike Trump, which very well could still be a possibility)

Bernie supporters who think Hillary is evil/just like the rest: get off your high horse already. If you sit out the election and don’t vote, you forfeit your right to complain about anything.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:58:32am

re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus

I am anxious to see who they pick as their VPs. Bernie will most likely pick someone just like himself. I think Hillary will pick an up-and-comer younger male Liberal. Possibly a minority… Someone that would offset the “she’s old/she’s a Clinton” crowd. And someone who could refresh the party as a whole. Who that may be? I’m clueless.

The top of that list are the Castro brothers here in Texas, and I really expect her to pick one of them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 6:59:36am

re: #277 Belafon

The top of that list are the Castro brothers here in Texas, and I really expect her to pick one of them.

I think Julian’s got the edge with his keynote, mayoral experience, and now HUD experience.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:00:31am

re: #263 ObserverArt

I prefer to to be called an Evil Conservative. I am also open minded and not blinded by whatever letter is next to someone’s name. I have been reading about Hillary for most of my adult life. In my opinion, she will divide this country even more. We, as a country, do not need that.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:00:52am

re: #277 Belafon

I remember them being brought up. I’d definitely be on board with that. But can you imagine the Republican backlash, having someone named CASTRO opposing them? That would be so great to see. lol

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:01:12am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I think Julian’s got the edge with his keynote, mayoral experience, and now HUD experience.

I couldn’t remember which one was which, so I left it open. That’s the one I think will be picked as well.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:01:44am

re: #279 Kent Dorfman

She won’t be doing the dividing. Just like Obama hasn’t. Look at your fellow conservatives.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:02:01am

re: #281 Belafon

I couldn’t remember which one was which, so I left it open. That’s the one I think will be picked as well.

He’s been campaigning for her a lot too lately.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:03:30am

re: #282 GlutenFreeJesus

What are the Democrats willing to give up?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:03:47am

re: #263 ObserverArt

Ahhh. The truth comes out. It has nothing to do with what someone says about Hillary.

By the way, aren’t you really a conservative/Republican ultimately?

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:03:55am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:04:27am

re: #280 GlutenFreeJesus

I remember them being brought up. I’d definitely be on board with that. But can you imagine the Reoublican backlash, having someone named CASTRO opposing them? That would be so great to see. lol

Hey why not, the last guy with Hussein as a middle name and whose last name is one letter from being Osama infuriates them. I really do think he’d be a great choice though. I think he’s got an unique amount of experience as San Antonio’s mayor and now HUD Secretary. She doesn’t need someone like Biden.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:05:50am

re: #279 Kent Dorfman

In my opinion, she will divide this country even more. We, as a country, do not need that.

Conservative translation: “We lost the election. And such, the Democrat is dividing this country. “

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:06:34am

re: #279 Kent Dorfman

I prefer to to be called an Evil Conservative. I am also open minded and not blinded by whatever letter is next to someone’s name. I have been reading about Hillary for most of my adult life. In my opinion, she will divide this country even more. We, as a country, do not need that.

Oh, no, white men are going to feel so impotent. A woman in charge? What ever will we do? A white man has never been elected president and now we’ve have both a black man and a woman. What’s next? A dog?

As a white man, I say fuck all those men whose feelings are so tender that they can’t handle a woman being in charge. And fuck the “She’ll divide the country” shit. She’s not going to divide the country. Whiny white men will.

Edit: And in response, they’ll wave their dicks guns around even more, pretty much openly threatening any one who irritates their little feefees.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:07:24am
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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:08:47am

It’s good to see so much passion. I am looking forward to this election.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:09:57am

I have heard often that Obama divided this country and I’m curious as to why.
Was it proposing the Republican response to Bill Clinton’s health care plan of the 90’s?
Was it fixing foreign policy errors made by the Bush administration in regards to our perception abroad?
I know what it was, it was having the audacity to be the first Democratic President to win two terms with over 50% of the popular vote since FDR.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:09:57am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Only one black female senator in history, Donna Edwards is running in Maryland though.

In 1972, Shirley Chisholm (congresswoman from NY) was the first woman (and black) to run for President as a Democrat. She got 152 first ballot votes at the convention.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:12:25am

re: #284 Kent Dorfman

Hmmm. Let’s see. Same sex marriage? Affordable healthcare? Protecting the environment? Equal pay? No more unnecessary wars? A muclear Iran. Minority justice? Universal background checks for all purchasers of firearms? Ad nauseum.

You should be asking yourself why your fellow conservatives are against such things. Because as far as I am concerned, that’s the Democrat/Liberal platform

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:13:50am

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Rage Furby has an actual news story on his blog, but, true to form, manages to make the story as murky as pea soup.

Instead he takes time to mock Gawker Media, his nemesis, and violate someone else’s copyright.

Here’s the gist of the story.

Nick Denton has sold has proposed selling a minority stake in Gawker Media to a Russian conglomerate headed by Viktor Vekselberg. This same Vekselberg was implicated in a plot to kill an Australian free-lance journalist, John Helmer, in 2010. Rage Furby attempts to connect the dots, but mostly just copies a large section of prose from a South African website with Afrikaner/white supremacist leanings.

The website’s banner says this: “Censorbugbear reports… detailed reports are posted daily about the Afrikaner/Boer genocide …”

Link to report about the Gawker deal wsj.com

Link to Rolling Stone article about Helmer rollingstone.com

OK. I delved into this story a little deeper to find — surprise! — there’s not much there.

GotNwes explains:

BUSTED: GotNewsDotCom once again fouls up a story

Gawker Media has accepted may be accepting an investment from a Russian oligarch, who’s buddies with another Russian oligarch who might have a connection to a failed murder attempt on a journalist in 2010. The journalist, Australian freelancer John Helmer, had been reporting on the possibly criminal activities of Russian billionaires.

According to The New York Times and Wall Street Journal, Gawker CEO Nick Denton has proposed selling a minority stake in the company to Columbus Nova Technology Ventures, the US-based arm of a Russian conglomerate. The details of the proposed deal have not been made public, and shareholders would need to approve the deal, in any event.

[EDITOR’S NOTE: Johnson’s GotNewsDotCom, which is by the way not us, erroneously reported it as a done deal. Don’t expect a retraction or correction by him any time soon.]

Columbus Nova is part of the business empire of Viktor Vekselberg, a Ukrainian-born Russian billionaire. Vekselberg owns Renova, a huge metals and petroleum concern, which includes assets in the aluminum producer, Rusal.

Helmer was reporting on Rusal and its boss, another Russian billionaire, Oleg Deripaska, in 2009 and 2010, particularly about some shady business dealings. As reported in The Weekend Australian (and republished here), Russian police arrested three armed men outside Helmer’s home in Moscow, who said they were working on behalf of Rusal.

So, Denton is so many degrees removed from the alleged attempt on John Helmer’s life that there is in fact no story at all. It’s just Rage Furby hating on Nick Denton. Nothing to see here. Move along now.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:14:33am

re: #294 GlutenFreeJesus

Then why reach across the aisle?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:15:08am

re: #296 Kent Dorfman

Are you against anything I just mentioned?

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KGxvi  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:15:59am

re: #119 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

…Many people think Barack Obama won in 2008 only because the black voters turned out, but the fact is that he landed a tremendous number of white voters. I wish I had time to look up the numbers, but that is my recollection.

Turnout in 2008 was the highest we’ve had since 1968, at 57% (‘68 was the last time we had turnout over 60%). According to the NYT exit polls, black voters made up 13% of the electorate in 2008, versus 11% in 2004. Hispanic voters also picked up 2 percentage points as a share of the electorate. Obama had 95% of the African American vote (Kerry had 88%), and 67% of the Hispanic vote (Kerry had 56%). Obama also picked up about 2% among white voters.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:16:42am

re: #297 GlutenFreeJesus

What’s the point of reaching across the aisle if these are non-negotiable?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:17:17am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I have heard often that Obama divided this country and I’m curious as to why.
Was it proposing the Republican response to Bill Clinton’s health care plan of the 90’s?
Was it fixing foreign policy errors made by the Bush administration in regards to our perception abroad?
I know what it was, it was having the audacity to be the first Democratic President to win two terms with over 50% of the popular vote since FDR.

I think the RW talking point is that he got elected by promising the takers a ton of free stuff all to be paid for by the makers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:18:14am

re: #298 KGxvi

Turnout in 2008 was the highest we’ve had since 1968, at 57% (‘68 was the last time we had turnout over 60%). According to the NYT exit polls, black voters made up 13% of the electorate in 2008, versus 11% in 2004. Hispanic voters also picked up 2 percentage points as a share of the electorate. Obama had 95% of the African American vote (Kerry had 88%), and 67% of the Hispanic vote (Kerry had 56%). Obama also picked up about 2% among white voters.

The electorate is why I think the GOP is fucked presidential elections wise. Until they show that their party rank and file is more than middle aged to old whites then they’re going to have problems. Watch the nominating conventions this summer and you’ll see what I mean.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:18:49am

For decades Republican politicians have openly and proudly attacked not just liberal politicians but also liberal voters. AND, this happens on a daily basis. Republican politicians have called us moochers, lazy, low-information voters, communists, Nazis, uninformed, government-dependent, and the list goes on and on. By contrast, Democrat politicians (sans Alan Grayson) have generally stayed away attacking constituents and go after Republican politicians. So, someone remind me, who exactly is dividing this country?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:19:46am

It’s looking to be fugly in my part of the world today.

Leon is certainly a rare talent.

you?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:22:21am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:24:26am

re: #299 Kent Dorfman

What’s the point of reaching across the aisle if these are non-negotiable.

What do you want to negotiate about those issues GlutenFreeJesus brought up?

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BlackPearl  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:24:57am

re: #299 Kent Dorfman

You’re the one who thinks that reaching across the aisle is important. Which presidential candidate do you think would be willing and able to do so? (I’d say Clinton and Sanders would be willing, but would be slapped down; I can’t see any of the Republicans willing, and with the House and Senate staying R of course they wouldn’t need to.)

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:25:18am

I just saw a graphic that says: “Marijuana is safer than Michigan.”

teehee

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:25:42am

re: #302 Dr. Matt

For decades Republican politicians have openly and proudly attacked not just liberal politicians but also liberal voters. AND, this happens on a daily basis. Republican politicians have called us moochers, lazy, low-information voters, communists, Nazis, uninformed, government-dependent, and the list goes on and on. By contrast, Democrat politicians (sans Alan Grayson) have generally stayed away attacking constituents and go after Republican politicians. So, someone remind me, who exactly is dividing this country?

No kidding.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:26:24am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:29:16am

re: #299 Kent Dorfman

What’s the point of reaching across the aisle if these are non-negotiable?

Like I asked. Which of those do you disagree with?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:30:27am

re: #306 BlackPearl

You’re the one who thinks that reaching across the aisle is important. Which presidential candidate do you think would be willing and able to do so? (I’d say Clinton and Sanders would be willing, but would be slapped down; I can’t see any of the Republicans willing, and with the House and Senate staying R of course they wouldn’t need to.)

Here are the Republicans’ plans to “unite America” on the first day in office:

Every Candidate’s Impossible First-Day Agendas:
1. Ted Cruz will…
* Rescind every single executive order issued by President Obama (which total 184 thus far)
* Open a Department of Justice investigation into Planned Parenthood
* “Rip up” the Iran nuclear deal (which would look something like this)
* Order the IRS to end its “persecution of religious liberty”
* Order the Department of Justice to end its “persecution of religious liberty”
* Move the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem
* Send flowers and condolence notes to “all the editors and reporters who have checked themselves into therapy”

2. Donald Trump will…
* Eliminate gun-free zones at schools and on military bases
* Round up and ship out all 11 million “bad” illegals
* Stop all American companies from continuing to build their products outside of the U.S.
* Have the U.S. Treasury Department declare China a currency manipulator
* Rescind every single executive order issued by President Obama (which total 184 thus far)

3. Jeb Bush will…

* Rescind every single executive order issued by President Obama (which total 184 thus far)
* Repeal Obamacare
* Lift the “regulatory burdens” off of business’s backs

Enough said.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:31:38am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

That’s what qualifies as “reaching across the aisle” apparently.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:31:45am

re: #305 Not a Sparkly Vampire

That’s not the point I was trying to make.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:33:03am

re: #313 Kent Dorfman

That’s not the point I was trying to make.

Your inability to answer that question is noted.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:33:07am

re: #310 GlutenFreeJesus

Like I asked. Which of those do you disagree with?

He just wants you to compromise. Otherwise, you’re not being fair to Republicans. How are they supposed to go back home and tell their constituents that Democrats refused to outlaw gays on Sunday and Wednesday?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:33:50am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:34:14am

re: #313 Kent Dorfman

No. You’re trying to avoid the issue here.

But ok. How about this? How about getting an AUMF so we can use more of our assets to fight ISIS/et al? Obama has reached across the aisle trying to get that done. What’s the result been?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:34:42am

re: #315 Belafon

Shhhhhhh…

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:35:17am

re: #262 Belafon

You might need to go look at her history, such as when she impersonated a mom in the South looking to get her kid into a white-only school in the early 70s. She was part of a group that tried to stop the rise of academies made to continue segregation.

For a northerner hoping to make a future in the Democratic party, being anti-segregation was a mainstream position. The Rockefeller Republicans would have been onboard with it too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:36:15am
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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:36:31am

re: #279 Kent Dorfman

I prefer to to be called an Evil Conservative. I am also open minded and not blinded by whatever letter is next to someone’s name. I have been reading about Hillary for most of my adult life. In my opinion, she will divide this country even more. We, as a country, do not need that.

Yeah. Sorry. Not buying today. Don’t think I’ll be buying tomorrow either. I doubt I’d buy it ever.

Your line about her dividing this country even more says all you need to say as it ignores the fact that it takes two to have a divide and often time the divide is because of that ‘other’ party.

Since you are admitting you are a conservative and have been following Clinton for a long time, I know you are well aware of that divide and the Republicans hold to that divide.

Nice try. Too bad it is full of more conservative BS like “she will divide this country even more” when you know damn well you evil conservatives work hard to keep the divide alive.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:36:56am

re: #314 Not a Sparkly Vampire

What’s the point, they are non-negotiable.
Tastes great or less filling?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:38:47am

Whoa! Wack-a-doodle alert!

Just posted a page about it.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:38:55am

re: #319 sagehen

For a northerner hoping to make a future in the Democratic party, being anti-segregation was a mainstream position. The Rockefeller Republicans would have been onboard with it too.

Yes, but would you go into the South, impersonating a parent like she did?

And, the thing is, not all Republicans outside the south we’re on board. A lower percentage of Republicans than Democrats outside the south voted for the CRA. And MLK explicitly stated that one of the problems he had in trying to get rights for blacks was with Republicans.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:39:21am

Another reminder about Iowa:

Let that sink in. One of the smallest states in the country, which also is one of the least diverse, had record turnout for the GOP that amounted to only 8.9% of registered votes, and less than 8% of all adults.

That’s who set the tone for the opening round of primary season.

So, of that 8.9%, you had a bit more than a quarter going for Cruz, just under a 1/4 going to Trump, and slightly less than that going for Rubio.

Let’s do the math:

27.7% x 8.9% = 2.467% (rounded up) - of registered IA votes went for Cruz.
24.3% x 8.9% = 2.16% went for Trump
23.1% x 8.9% = 2.056% went for Rubio.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:39:23am

heh

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:39:33am

re: #322 Kent Dorfman

What’s the point, they are non-negotiable.
Tastes great or less filling?

Yeah. Basic rights, equality, peace, and the environment are absolutely not negotiable.

Thanks for playing.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:39:39am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Only one black female senator in history, Donna Edwards is running in Maryland though.

We have already had a black female senator.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:40:14am

re: #323 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

She must be sad that she’s still a virgin.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:40:40am

re: #322 Kent Dorfman

What do you want to negotiate about them?
You want a compromise?
Ok.
What about those need to be changed to suit you?
Not bringing them up at all?
That’s not compromise.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:41:21am

re: #321 ObserverArt

I am speaking from the heart, no need to get defensive. Am I wrong? Maybe. It’s all good.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:41:44am

re: #323 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Whoa! Wack-a-doodle alert!

Just posted a page about it.

Yeah good luck with that one.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:42:25am

re: #328 Eric The Fruit Bat

We have already had a black female senator.

I know, I said we’ve only had one and I was referring to CMB.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:43:13am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I have heard often that Obama divided this country and I’m curious as to why.
Was it proposing the Republican response to Bill Clinton’s health care plan of the 90’s?
Was it fixing foreign policy errors made by the Bush administration in regards to our perception abroad?
I know what it was, it was having the audacity to be the first Democratic President to win two terms with over 50% of the popular vote since FDR.

Don’t over think it. It is just another cheap conservative excuse for when they don’t get their way. No one has divided more Americans over stupid crap than the conservatives. History is hard to deny.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:43:33am

It always cracks me up to see people treat compromise as an end goal in itself, rather than as a tool to actually, like, enact legislation or craft coherent and thoughtful policy to improve the general well-being of the population of the country.

It’s the most bizarre damn thing. I didn’t know the likes of Wolf Blitzer was an LGF commenter.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:43:49am

re: #331 Kent Dorfman

You are being evasive.
I find that annoying.
What are your thought on AGW?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:44:05am

re: #279 Kent Dorfman

I prefer to to be called an Evil Conservative. I am also open minded and not blinded by whatever letter is next to someone’s name. I have been reading about Hillary for most of my adult life. In my opinion, she will divide this country even more. We, as a country, do not need that.

What exactly have you been reading about Hillary? You realize she hasn’t been the object of anything but gossip and rhetoric until very recently.

Yes, a woman in the Oval Office will divide this country —we will learn alot about ourselves, just as with the Obama Presidency.

We will survive.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:44:07am

re: #331 Kent Dorfman

Is your heart telling you that any of what I mentioned is bad/wrong?

And when I say “nuclear Iran”, I mean the 5+1 deal that actually just ended their nuclear program.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:44:16am

re: #334 ObserverArt

Don’t over think it. It is just another cheap conservative excuse for when they don’t get their way. No one has divided more Americans over stupid crap than the conservatives. History is hard to deny.

Hearing ‘WHY ARE YOU SO DIVISIVE’ from the party of the Southern Strategy is always amusing.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:45:47am

re: #327 GlutenFreeJesus

Yeah. Basic rights, equality, peace, the choice of parenthood, and the environment are absolutely not negotiable.

Thanks for playing.

FTFY

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:45:50am

re: #339 Testy Toad T

Hearing ‘WHY ARE YOU SO DIVISIVE’ from the party of the Southern Strategy is always amusing.

or the party that treats Rush Limbaugh like a respected commentator. I still can’t get over that pig calling Chelsea Clinton a dog. Real tough guy Rush calls 13 year old girls names..

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:46:30am

re: #202 Kent Dorfman

In my opinion, many Hillary supporters feel she is the ‘anointed one’. I am a New Yorker, and my views my be jaded, but I see her as a carpet bagger and a quitter.

I’m not thrilled with Hillary Clinton, but what on Earth did she quit? Further, why do you bring up her supporters? That shows a level of unfocused thinking. Finally, if you concede “your views may be jaded”, stop what you’re typing and come back when your views are firm. It’s one thing to see her as a carpet bagger (she was) or a quitter (she wasn’t), but it’s another when you you can’t state your opinion without acknowledging that your opinion might be flawed. Think it through, then come back.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:46:49am

re: #336 Not a Sparkly Vampire

It doesn’t matter. We aren’t talking about AGW, we are talking about uniting the country.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:47:40am

re: #322 Kent Dorfman

What’s the point, they are non-negotiable.
Tastes great or less filling?

Do you think civil rights *should* be negotiable? Or breathable air and drinkable water? Or access to health care and education?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:48:06am

re: #343 Kent Dorfman

It doesn’t matter. We aren’t talking about AGW, we are talking about uniting the country.

Yeah, it does. It’ll tell me whether I’m wasting my time arguing with you or not.
Seems like I am, since you evaded that question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:48:32am

re: #323 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

This confirms my assertion that these people are not just against Planned Parenthood, they are against planning parenthood by anything other than abstinence (before marriage) and rhythm method (after)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:49:12am

What exactly is uniting a country? Honestly, seems to me that the only things that really could be said to unite the country are things like Depression and World War and even those didn’t stop FDR from being attacked as a Communist or tool of “International Jewry.”

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:49:35am

re: #338 GlutenFreeJesus

I am not here to judge. We are all passionate about different things. I respect what your passions are and I want to know why and learn, so that I better understand the world around me.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:49:36am

It’s real simple.
If you deny science then I ain’t gonna waste my time arguing with you on anything.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:50:38am

I think the level of misogyny in this country can be correctly measured by the opposition to a Hillary Clinton Presidency.

It’s greater than racism.

Kinda pathetic isn’t it. HATE and fear of 1/2 the population, unlike skin color or religion, everyone has known a women. In fact, has had an intimate relationship with one.

It’s not xenophobia, it’s worse. And it is destroying us.

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Emoprog Refugee  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:52:18am

re: #279 Kent Dorfman

I prefer to to be called an Evil Conservative. I am also open minded and not blinded by whatever letter is next to someone’s name. I have been reading about Hillary for most of my adult life. In my opinion, she will divide this country even more. We, as a country, do not need that.

I rarely ever downding, but this is just trolling. And if it’s not, do yourself a favor, and stop reading rwnj sites.
As for Evil Conservative, I’ve got 3 kids to leave the planet to. People who are openly anti-science are threatening life on this planet. That’s bloody evil.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:52:22am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:52:47am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Where’s Gandalf when you need him?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:53:24am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re roaming free since Carly’s big loss last night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:53:45am
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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:53:55am

re: #331 Kent Dorfman

I am speaking from the heart, no need to get defensive. Am I wrong? Maybe. It’s all good.

You can try to knock down what I say by calling it defensive all you want. It seems to be your style…the subtle knock on what people say.

It doesn’t work. Just like your statement about dividing as the reason you can’t vote for Hillary. A statement made to cover the fact that you probably never intended to vote for Hillary, but you needed to word it that way for the audience. Same as the “Am I wrong, maybe”

What I wrote is the truth…downplay it all you want. The passive aggressive writing style aside, you said nothing about the real point that it takes two to have a divide. Funny you don’t acknowledge it. Wait, no it isn’t, it was to be expected.

And no, it is not all good. You aren’t as cunning as you think.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:54:10am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:54:20am

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You can almost feel the rage building.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:54:40am

re: #269 lawhawk

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One was a guy who sought out a violent confrontation with cops and ended up engaging in suicide by cop - all while pushing violent threats while occupying federal lands.

The other was a black guy who was walking in the street.

Yeah, they’re just alike. /

And I’m sure there will be many a misspelled/poorly punctuated sign on display.

HAND’S UP indeed.

On a more serious note, these assholes usurping a real phenomenon to try to apply it to their “cause” is extremely off-putting (and obnoxious.)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:55:30am

re: #358 Not a Sparkly Vampire

You can almost feel the rage building.

He’s going to brag that Babe Ruth comes to his baseball field of dead players and all that loser Ray could get in iowa was Shoeless Joe Jackson.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:56:12am

re: #324 Belafon

And MLK explicitly stated that one of the problems he had in trying to get rights for blacks was with Republicans.

Conservative Republicans, yes. But when hundreds of black kids were arrested on a march and bail was high, it was Nelson Rockefeller who gave MLK a couple of duffel bags full of cash to get them out.

It wasn’t until the Reaganauts took power that the party started purging liberals and moderates.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:57:30am

You know who I feel sort of bad for?
O’Malley.
0%.
Ouch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:58:45am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 7:59:11am

re: #361 sagehen

Conservative Republicans, yes. But when hundreds of black kids were arrested on a march and bail was high, it was Nelson Rockefeller who gave MLK a couple of duffel bags full of cash to get them out.

It wasn’t until the Reaganauts took power that the party started purging liberals and moderates.

I was actually reading about Biden’s early political career. One of the first people he supported was a Republican because he didn’t like the Democratic’s weak stance on civil rights. There was a lot more over lap in ideology those days. The Northern/Liberal GOP wing deserves a lot of credit but the problem is Nixon ran away from a lot of that and by the time Reagan was nominated in 1980, Reagan was channeling George Wallace talking about states rights in the town where the three civil rights workers were kidnapped and murdered.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:00:19am

re: #356 ObserverArt

I have been here since 2008, I have always been polite. I am trying to be humble, you can read into that all you like.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:01:29am

re: #348 Kent Dorfman

#327 is all you need to know. If you disagree with any of those “hot topics”, then I have nothing more to say to you.

Call that non-negotiable all you want. I’ll just call you stuck in the past.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:02:28am

re: #350 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I think the level of misogyny in this country can be correctly measured by the opposition to a Hillary Clinton Presidency.

It’s greater than racism.

Kinda pathetic isn’t it. HATE and fear of 1/2 the population, unlike skin color or religion, everyone has known a women. In fact, has had an intimate relationship with one.

It’s not xenophobia, it’s worse. And it is destroying us.

Over half the population of the country. Women have the upper hand. Many conservatives fear that more then anything.

They can break and divide over unions, religion, sexual identity, etc.

Pretty damn hard to come right out and say we fear what will happen when the “little ladies and gals get sick of all our male-centered thinking and gang up on us with their sympathetic male associates.”

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:02:51am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it starts with “FL man” you know it quickly goes to Hell.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:03:46am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Over half the population of the country. Women have the upper hand. Many conservatives fear that more then anything.

They can break and divide over unions, religion, sexual identity, etc.

Pretty damn hard to come right out and say we fear what will happen when the “little ladies and gals get sick of all our male-centered thinking and gang up on us with their sympathetic male associates.”

Hell, they might get the vote!
/

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:03:48am

re: #343 Kent Dorfman

It doesn’t matter. We aren’t talking about AGW, we are talking about uniting the country.

As John Cole alluded to, right now, the Republican party is like the date where you ask where she would like to go for dinner and you suggest steak and she suggests anthrax and tire rims. One side wants to compromise, the other side wants to destroy. And if you don’t believe that, look at the compromising Obama did, and got nothing for them.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:04:08am

The Republican Party’s tragedy, yes I’d use that word here is that they went from being a respectable party that produced the likes of Thomas Dewey, Dwight Eisenhower, and Nelson Rockefeller, to become the party of Strom Thurmond, Reagan, and Jesse Helms,. That’s the sad thing. The Republican Party from its birth in the mid 1850’s always had a strong liberal wing that cared about the rights of the little guy but that wing is long dead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:04:14am

...

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:04:23am

Mealy-mouthed position-agnostic concern trolling is one of the most uninteresting things on the internet.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:05:04am

re: #362 Not a Sparkly Vampire

You know who I feel sort of bad for?
O’Malley.
0%.
Ouch.

No need to fell sorry for him anymore. He’s out.

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CleverToad  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:05:46am

re: #201 sagehen

For a long time, it’s felt like her views on the most contentious issues have been “what will it be good to tell voters five years from now that I supported today?” That’s why she voted for the Iraq War, that’s why she took her sweet time about coming around on gay marriage, that’s why when her husband was president they were all-in on DOMA, Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, welfare reform, three strikes and repealing Glass-Stiegel.

She knows which voters she’s aiming for, and she’s relentlessly practical about pursuing them, but everything’s so poll-tested I have a hard time finding anything she Truly Deeply believes. She’s like those people you knew in college who were just slightly above average intellectually, and got their excellent grades from being the grindiest grinders who ever grinded.

As President, she’ll be competent every day. When stuff happens that a President has to respond to, she’ll respond non-stupidly. She’ll research the hell out of everything, know all the details, and follow the right experts. But she’ll have no pro-active agenda of her own.

I agree that she’s practical, and she’s definitely a grinder. I admire grinders, they get results from their hard work. I don’t agree that she has no pro-active agenda of her own — case in point, her support for repealing the Hyde Amendment. We know she’s pro-choice, she didn’t have to take it that extra step, but she did and I hope it happens even if it’s most likely to be in her second term (or Castro’s first). Sanders has jumped on that bandwagon too now, I’m glad to see.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:05:58am

re: #374 ObserverArt

No need to fell sorry for him anymore. He’s out.

Hey that’s my 15th cousin you’re talking about pal. //

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:06:08am
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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:07:10am

re: #365 Kent Dorfman

I have been here since 2008, I have always been polite. I am trying to be humble, you can read into that all you like.

I don’t need your permission. You are easy to read.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:07:53am

If you ask me, Trump came in second only because he didn’t kill enough Cruz supporters with his Hypno-Death Stare(TM).

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:07:59am
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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:09:22am
In my opinion, many Hillary supporters feel she is the ‘anointed one’.

Here we go with the ‘Messiah’ shit again…

You know, for all the times I’ve seen conservatives accuse liberals of thinking this, I’ve never once heard a liberal actually say it.

Not about Obama, not about Clinton, not about anybody. Not even once.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:11:57am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

The Republican Party’s tragedy, yes I’d use that word here is that they went from being a respectable party that produced the likes of Thomas Dewey, Dwight Eisenhower, and Nelson Rockefeller, to become the party of Strom Thurmond, Reagan, and Jesse Helms,

The scary thing is (and it’s been noted before) is that compared to the current crop of wackaloons, Reagan was a moderate. I hated the mad while he was in office, but looking back it with the current cloud of stupid in the R party, I think, maybe he wasn’t so bad…

Then I feel the need to slap my head in to a brick wall to bring back sanity. It’s not a good thing.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:12:23am

Well someone has to stir the pot once in while. Being in agreement all the time gets so boring!

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:12:54am

re: #381 makeitstop

But how many times have we heard GOP candidates say that they’ve been compelled to run for office because god said to do so.

God, it seems, has a wicked sense of humor.

Either that, or the voices in their head aren’t from god, but Cthulhu, and he is most pleased.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:13:06am

Chili is up, I have yet to perfect the perfect corn bread.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:13:16am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Reagan (and even HW Bush) would have laughed, mocked, and ignored anyone that said such nonsense in their days.

I don’t know. HW said he doesn’t consider atheists to be citizens.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:13:24am

re: #381 makeitstop

It’s just projection. Bernie supporters think he’s the anointed one. And republicans think any of their guys are as well.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:14:13am

re: #382 Le Lapin Tueur

The scary thing is (and it’s been noted before) is that compared to the current crop of wackaloons, Reagan was a moderate. I hated the mad while he was in office, but looking back it with the current cloud of stupid in the R party, I think, maybe he wasn’t so bad…

Then I feel the need to slap my head in to a brick wall to bring back sanity. It’s not a good thing.

i know. I used him though to represent what they were in the 50’s when my Dad was a child to what they became in the late 80’s and early 90’s when i was a kid and I never miss an opportunity to point out Reagan’s alliances and flirting with segregation supporters. What was really sad last time around was that the so called moderate- Hunstman was a guy who wanted to abolish the EPA and was staunchly anti-choice.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:14:17am

Trump breaks his self-imposed silence:

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:15:32am

re: #375 CleverToad

I agree that she’s practical, and she’s definitely a grinder. I admire grinders, they get results from their hard work. I don’t agree that she has no pro-active agenda of her own — case in point, her support for repealing the Hyde Amendment. We know she’s pro-choice, she didn’t have to take it that extra step, but she did and I hope it happens even if it’s most likely to be in her second term (or Castro’s first). Sanders has jumped on that bandwagon too now, I’m glad to see.

And we can’t forget, it was Hillary that once again tried to get some kind, any kind, of better healthcare system going. I think that was pretty pro-active.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:16:34am

re: #389 lawhawk

Trump breaks his self-imposed silence:

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I was disappointed, I really wanted a melt down last night but then again I think he’s probably aware that Iowa’s electorate favors theocrats like Cruz. I still think Donald can perhaps win NH and as Charles has pointed out, that him and Cruz were 2 and 1 says a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:16:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:17:15am

re: #389 lawhawk

Trump breaks his self-imposed silence:

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And he still doesn’t understand how a caucus works.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:17:20am

re: #389 lawhawk

Loser convinces self not loser.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:17:34am

re: #389 lawhawk

Trump breaks his self-imposed silence:

I’m wondering how long he’ll be chastened before going back to being The Best At Every Single Thing Since The Beginning Of Time again.

You know in your gut that this loss is gnawing at him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:17:46am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

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See, I had heard that no one was excited about her.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:19:34am

re: #386 Eventual Carrion

I don’t know. HW said he doesn’t consider atheists to be citizens.

I always thought that was a particularly douchey statement by him. But that said, I think he would roll his eyes at talk of the President revealing himself as the Antichrist at the UN . I think HW was pandering with that statement honestly. That’s not an apology for the man but I think that’s what a lot of what his post 1980 campaign stuff was because the Republican base has never really trusted him.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:19:58am

re: #381 makeitstop

Here we go with the ‘Messiah’ shit again…

You know, for all the times I’ve seen conservatives accuse liberals of thinking this, I’ve never once heard a liberal actually say it.

Not about Obama, not about Clinton, not about anybody. Not even once.

Oh, you know those damn Republicans. Creative thinkers for all the wrong reasons. Too bad they can’t be as creative thinking about real policy and future thinking.

All you need to know is 60+ attempts to overturn the ACA (Obamacare) and all failures. That is the extent of their creativity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:21:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:22:06am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:23:00am

re: #386 Eventual Carrion

I don’t know. HW said he doesn’t consider atheists to be citizens.

HW said that!? I must have missed that one. I always considered HW to be the last semi-reasonable Republican. Wow.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:23:03am

re: #398 ObserverArt

Oh, you know those damn Republicans. Creative thinkers for all the wrong reasons. Too bad they can’t be as creative thinking about real policy and future thinking.

All you need to know is 60+ attempts to overturn the ACA (Obamacare) and all failures. That is the extent of their creativity.

What I’ve seen and I even see it sometimes here with our Resident staunch GOPer, DF is an attribution of attributes on to Democrats by Republicans. Call it projection if you will. An assumption that one’s opposition is more partisan than they are. I’ve seen this in the polls a lot but Democratic voters seem to value elected officials who are willing to work together while Republican ones feel the total opposite. I mean obviously you will find differences among individual people but as a whole, Republicans want hyper partisans representing them in Congress who refuse to budge whlie Democrats prefer people who would rather get a piece of the pie than no pie. And with that mmmmmmm pie.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:23:19am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So when does Cruz start handling snakes and speaking in tongues?

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:23:43am

re: #382 Le Lapin Tueur

The scary thing is (and it’s been noted before) is that compared to the current crop of wackaloons, Reagan was a moderate. I hated the mad while he was in office, but looking back it with the current cloud of stupid in the R party, I think, maybe he wasn’t so bad…

Then I feel the need to slap my head in to a brick wall to bring back sanity. It’s not a good thing.

In a way I understand your point. There was some good in Ronnie.

I think he was used. He was quit old when he assumed office and I have a feeling he was more disconnected from reality than what was let on. Sure, he could read a good script…he was an actor.

The evil that we see now was going on in the background of Reagan and was really made more obvious with Bush 1.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:23:54am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

HW said that!? I must have missed that one. I always considered HW to be the last semi-reasonable Republican. Wow.

He did yeah. He also let Lee Atwater do his thing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:23:55am

re: #389 lawhawk

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:24:38am

re: #403 nines09

So when does Cruz start handling snakes and speaking in tongues?

no shit!

dude is scary

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:24:41am

re: #403 nines09

So when does Cruz start handling snakes and speaking in tongues?

Wait, you mean everyone else can’t understand Parseltongue? /

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:25:03am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

“God doesn’t do tractor pulls.” — Leviticus 84:17

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:25:12am

re: #404 ObserverArt

In a way I understand your point. There was some good in Ronnie.

I think he was used. He was quit old when he assumed office and I have a feeling he was more disconnected from reality than what was let on. Sure, he could read a good script…he was an actor.

The evil that we see now was going on in the background of Reagan and was really made more obvious with Bush 1.

They wanted a smiling and charismatic face. Grandpa Reagan worked since older people could remember him from their younger days and he could project optimism. I think he was used too honestly especially in his second term.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:25:31am

he is such a sore loser

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:26:01am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

HW said that!? I must have missed that one. I always considered HW to be the last semi-reasonable Republican. Wow.

I think the veracity of the quote is at least slightly in question. Google informs me that only a single reporter took note of this quote, and there is no recording of any sort.

It wouldn’t really surprise me either way. Certainly that sort of thinking is not dramatically out of step with the modern GOP.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:26:09am

re: #407 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

no shit!

dude is scary

Damn right he is. Consummate creep. I think the fucker is a black hearted bastard.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:26:36am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

He called Iowans idiots because the GMO corn was effecting their brains.

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Mattand  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:26:44am

re: #331 Kent Dorfman

I am speaking from the heart, no need to get defensive. Am I wrong? Maybe. It’s all good.

Coming late to this, but from what I’ve reviewed, you could not be more wrong.

I’m sorry, but this “She’s a divider” shtick is utter bullshit. It’s no different than calling Obama a divider.

Obama is a “divider” because he’s a black guy who got elected President: legally, unambiguously, and did it twice.

Clinton is a “divider” because she’s married to Bill Clinton, and if she gets elected, because she’s a woman.

That’s how conservatives work anymore. I’m including you in that bunch because I’m seeing little evidence to dissuade me otherwise. And quite frankly, your ilk is a fucking danger to this country. If you guys had actually worked with the President for the better of the country, rather than trying to destroy him at every opportunity, we’d have 3% unemployment and a health care system that would be better than the ACA.

Bonus points if you claim to be an ‘independent” who somehow how manages to vote GOP 99.9% of the time.

And while I’m at it: the only reason you think Bernie Sanders is better because if he wins, it guarantees a Republican President. The entire campaign will be “OMG HE’S A SOCIALIST!!!”, and American voters are too lazy and stupid to make the effort to see what a distortion that is.

So, yeah, it’s all good.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:26:58am

re: #406 GlutenFreeJesus

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Jenner7  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:26:59am

Good morning, Lizards.

Turned the radio on…hear Ted Cruz:

“something, something in the body of Christ…”

Turn radio off.

Ugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:27:02am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:27:31am

re: #412 Testy Toad T

I think the veracity of the quote is at least slightly in question. Google informs me that only a single reporter took note of this quote, and there is no recording of any sort.

It wouldn’t really surprise me either way. Certainly that sort of thinking is not dramatically out of step with the modern GOP.

The interesting thing is and I granted don’t know for sure if he was an atheist but the baseball player/WWII and Korean War hero Ted Williams was an atheist I’m pretty sure and also a big backer of H.W Bush. Not sure if he was an atheist as I said but I know he wasn’t too fond of organized religion.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:27:37am

re: #414 GlutenFreeJesus

He called Iowans idiots because the GMO corn was effecting their brains.

In other words, he was uniting Americans!

//

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:27:52am

re: #279 Kent Dorfman

Still caught on this “divide the country” meme.

A Trump, Cruz or Rubio presidency would also divide the country.

Those anti-war liberals might think differently if theocracy is on the table.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:28:33am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

See, I had heard that no one was excited about her.

They are there to witness The Anointing™.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:29:00am

re: #422 ObserverArt

They are there to witness The Anointing™.

God save the queen, she ain’t no human being.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:29:15am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

And how many times is this? 56?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:29:48am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:29:50am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

HW said that!? I must have missed that one. I always considered HW to be the last semi-reasonable Republican. Wow.

He’s also one of the assholes that helped to start the ‘political correctness on college campuses is killing America’ shtick.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:30:14am

re: #424 Eric The Fruit Bat

And how many times is this? 56?

Oh I think we’re over 60 times now. I mean the first time I got it. Symbolic reasons, That’s fine. But by the 3rd and now whatever it is, it’s just said. And these jackasses have the nerve ot act like Obama’s not doing his job.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:30:47am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:31:37am

re: #421 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Still caught on this “divide the country” meme.

Fitting that today is Groundhog Day.

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japa21  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:31:56am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, Trump is on pretty solid grounds feeling good about coming in second (much as it must stick in his craw).
The most common theme running around prior to the caucus was that he could draw crowds but most of his followers were not likely to vote and that his actual performance would tell a lot.
Well, he got 24% of the votes, not much below his polling numbers. So I guess his voters will get out there and vote for him. And remember, his ground game was pretty putrid.
NH will be a big test because he has been having a strong lead there and in SC for a while. If he gets those supporters to actually get out and vote, he will be hard for the GOP to get rid of.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:32:26am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:32:59am

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:33:02am

re: #426 Timothy Watson

He’s also one of the assholes that helped to start the ‘political correctness on college campuses is killing America’ shtick.

Oh yeah? I wasn’t aware of that. Honestly, I’m sick of the whining about political correctness in modern America. Really because the past was so much better? I mean in the 50’s they couldn’t even indicate that couples slept together in the same bed on TV. A flushing toilet was controversial in Psycho. Oh I’m sorry Mr. Conservative, you don’t like that there are social consequences to being bigoted to people who aren’t like you. Tough shit dude. Really the whining about political correctness is worse than the actual political correctness. Most political correctness I see is people just trying to be polite. And a lot of times when people bitch about political correctness, they’re not even bitching about political correctness, they’re bitching that real America- with gays, immigrants, religious minorities, etc is represented.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:33:04am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

he is such a sore loser

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Nothing is ever Trump’s fault.

Can there be any other way for an arrogant rich kid bully to respond?

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:33:06am

re: #428 Dave In Austin

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:33:15am

re: #431 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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If we had a super-upding, this is news I’d use it for.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:33:25am

re: #432 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

Herbert Walker, I think.

1988-1992 Bush.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:33:36am

re: #432 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

Bush the elder

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:33:40am

re: #432 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

GHWB, aka Bush the Elder.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:34:00am

re: #432 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

George HW Bush.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:34:08am

re: #432 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

H.W Bush. Not me. I wasn’t a Republican president in the late 80’s and early 90’s who led the coalition to oust Saddam from Kuwait. I did tell Jeb it was a good idea to run though wink.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:34:19am

re: #432 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

George Herbert Walker Bush, the first Bush President, as distinguished from George Walker Bush

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:34:30am

re: #432 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Help my morning brain, please:

HW?

Gearoge Herbert Walker Bush

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:34:31am

re: #383 Kent Dorfman

Well someone has to stir the pot once in while. Being in agreement all the time gets so boring!

It’s fine to make an anti-Clinton case, but if you do, make it a good one. Hell, I did better than that a couple of months ago. You really can do better, but the problem is you don’t have a case to make for something. When that happens, it really limits what you can do and the arguments you can make. Your arguments are not really thought out to completion, and it really shows.

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Franklin  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:34:44am

re: #368 nines09

If it starts with “FL man” you know it quickly goes to Hell is going to be a funny|horrifying story.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:35:05am

heh

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:37:17am

re: #444 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Hell, I am to Sander’s left, and I support Clinton.

We have to be pragmatic, and wait until we are in a stronger position.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:39:00am

re: #214 Patricia Kayden

As a former Canadian, I approve of your manners.

Sorry to say this, but Canadian manners are overrated.

My apologies if I’ve offended anyone.

Sorry, for the above apology.

My grandfather was a lumberjack.

My sister once bit a moose.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:39:22am

re: #447 Ziggy_TARDIS

Hell, I am to Sander’s left, and I support Clinton.

We have to be pragmatic, and wait until we are in a stronger position.

That’s much better formulated than “In an ideal world, I would vote for Bernie, but in the real world HRC is the only viable option”.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:40:14am

re: #444 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

It’s fine to make an anti-Clinton case, but if you do, make it a good one. Hell, I did better than that a couple of months ago. You really can do better, but the problem is you don’t have a case to make for something. When that happens, it really limits what you can do and the arguments you can make. Your arguments are not really thought out to completion, and it really shows.

That wasn’t your plea for left leaning people to help vote for a sane GOP candidate to save the party was it?

Take no offense…but I still get a chuckle out of that one. : )

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:41:37am

re: #433 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah? I wasn’t aware of that. Honestly, I’m sick of the whining about political correctness in modern America. Really because the past was so much better? I mean in the 50’s they couldn’t even indicate that couples slept together in the same bed on TV. A flushing toilet was controversial in Psycho. Oh I’m sorry Mr. Conservative, you don’t like that there are social consequences to being bigoted to people who aren’t like you. Tough shit dude. Really the whining about political correctness is worse than the actual political correctness. Most political correctness I see is people just trying to be polite. And a lot of times when people bitch about political correctness, they’re not even bitching about political correctness, they’re bitching that real America- with gays, immigrants, religious minorities, etc is represented.

political correctness is so turn of the century!

it’s a meme that has run it’s course.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:42:18am

re: #437 Testy Toad T

Herbert Walker, I think.

1988-1992 Bush.

ah!

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:43:18am
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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:43:18am

Some days, the page down button is your best friend on LGF.

I’m only here to look at the pictures.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:43:35am

re: #448 b_sharp

Sorry to say this, but Canadian manners are overrated.

My apologies if I’ve offended anyone.

Sorry, for the above apology.

My grandfather was a lumberjack.

My sister once bit a moose.

The Weather Channel carries a series on Canadian highway recovery tow trucks. The boss and almost every one of his drivers are sane, genteel, well-spoken, and public spirited—everything TPGOP candidates are not. Even the Canadian.

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Lidane  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:45:38am

Heh:

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:45:44am

re: #454 b_sharp

Some days, the page down button is your best friend on LGF.

I’m only here to look at the pictures.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:45:52am

My position is this. I think we need a left alternative to Clinton. I am glad we have Bernie to be that but I don’t think he’s presidential material. My problems with Sanders are less about WHAT but more with HOW. It’s been documented here that he doesn’t plan to raise much money or do much for down ticket Dems and I just think that’s a terrible strategy. Yeah some of them may be more conservative than you but Bernie needs to look at how past Presidents passed trans-formative legislation. I also think this idea that people will be so angry that they will just vote the Republicans out in anger or take to the streets if they oppose his legislation is foolish. Finally, I also think his way of looking at the world through a Democratic Socialist’s lens clouds his judgement. Yes, economic injustice is a problem but there’s a lot of other problems too. Now granted I will concede that a lot of racial problems are also economic. Another thing is I think he and his surrogates simplify things way too much. It’s graet he’s been right about many an issue but as I said I’m about HOW rather than WHAT. I already know I want a reasonable liberal agenda but I don’t know how that’s going to happen with Bernie. And last of all is FP. I think Sanders for a man who has spent 25 years in the Senate has demonstrated that he hasn’t learned much on the issue. It’s more than just having voted against the Iraq war resolution. Now Clinton does have baggage I’ll be the first to concede but I also think shes ready to be President and would be more competent than Sanders. I just think Sanders, although a good guy and a great voice for good causes is not the guy that’s going to implement social change in America.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:46:32am

re: #451 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

political correctness is so turn of the century!

it’s a meme that has run it’s course.

I know but I see people whining about it all the time.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:46:41am

re: #450 ObserverArt

That wasn’t your plea for left leaning people to help vote for a sane GOP candidate to save the party was it?

Take no offense…but I still get a chuckle out of that one. : )

No. Actually my plea was for millions and millions of normal people to register Republican and chase those assholes back where they came from: The Democratic Party!//
In all seriousness I argue that our country is designed to work for better or worse with two viable political parties. Right now we only have one, and the dysfunctional one is really crippling any efforts to move forward. Right now it wouldn’t matter whether Jeb? Bush or Ted Cruz were President. Either way the hard right would run wild.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:46:48am

re: #424 Eric The Fruit Bat

And how many times is this? 56?

I think we’re at least at an even 60 now. Maybe 61.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:46:50am

re: #455 Decatur Deb

The Weather Channel carries a series on Canadian highway recovery tow trucks. The boss and almost every one of his drivers are sane, genteel, well-spoken, and public spirited—everything TPGOP candidates are not. Even the Canadian.

The Weather Channel also has a great survivalist show, “Fat Guys in the Woods.” Clueless out-of-shape city dudes learning how to construct a shelter, find water, start a fire…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:46:59am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:47:03am

re: #457 Dr. Matt

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Christ that’s actually scary kinda.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:47:23am

re: #455 Decatur Deb

The Weather Channel carries a series on Canadian highway recovery tow trucks. The boss and almost every one of his drivers are sane, genteel, well-spoken, and public spirited—everything TPGOP candidates are not. Even the Canadian.

That’s not my fault.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:47:46am

re: #457 Dr. Matt

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Well, not that one.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:47:51am

re: #462 sagehen

The Weather Channel also has a great survivalist show, “Fat Guys in the Woods.” Clueless out-of-shape city dudes learning how to construct a shelter, find water, start a fire…

Are they going on location to Malheur?

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:49:24am

re: #458 HappyWarrior

You could boil that down to “Bernie thinks it’s still 1968.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:49:51am

re: #463 Charles Johnson

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:50:28am

re: #451 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

political correctness is so turn of the century!

it’s a meme that has run it’s course.

It not just a matter of using or avoiding certain words, it is also a matter of intent and context, and those concepts are way too complex to fit into our media environment of tweets, bullet points and sound bytes.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:50:40am

re: #457 Dr. Matt

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Just another boob picture.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:51:32am

re: #468 sagehen

You could boil that down to “Bernie thinks it’s still 1968.”

‘68 was a very good year for city girls who lived up the stairs with all that perfumed hair.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:51:49am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, that didn’t take long. Back to being The Best At Everything Since The Beginning Of Time again.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:52:04am

So, with only two Democratic Party candidates, does the 2nd place finisher get the VP nod? Thoughts?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:52:10am

re: #468 sagehen

You could boil that down to “Bernie thinks it’s still 1968.”

Ha I guess I could. I mean I get the excitement and for the longest time, I told myself I would vote for him but I’ve been doing some soul searching this winter and I’ve come to conclude while I agree with a lot of his agenda, I do not see him as presidential material.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:52:23am

re: #472 Decatur Deb

‘68 was a very good year for city girls who lived up the stairs with all that perfumed hair.

And it came undone!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:52:36am

re: #474 Dr. Matt

So, with only two Democratic Party candidates, does the 2nd place finisher get the VP nod? Thoughts?

No. Much too similar.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:53:24am

re: #467 Decatur Deb

Are they going on location to Malheur?

Nah… the contestants are the kind of guys who’d greet the cops with “Thank god you found me, can I get a ride to the nearest B&B?”

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lizardofid  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:54:11am
So when does Cruz start handling snakes and speaking in tongues?

I would guess South Carolina.

// “sorta”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:54:18am

re: #474 Dr. Matt

So, with only two Democratic Party candidates, does the 2nd place finisher get the VP nod? Thoughts?

That is up to the candidate and their staff…the general idea is to “balance the ticket”, in Obama’s case, it meant getting someone who was older and well established in the party (Biden). In McCain’s case it was about getting someone younger and less established in the party.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:54:19am

re: #478 sagehen

Nah… the contestants are the kind of guys who’d greet the cops with “Thank god you found me, can I get a ride to the nearest B&B?”

I wouldn’t let these clowns into a nice clean cell until they beg for it.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:54:33am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jeebus. Shut the hell up Trump.

And people were wondering why they hadn’t seen any tweets. Sheesh. That was the good times.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:54:45am

re: #474 Dr. Matt

So, with only two Democratic Party candidates, does the 2nd place finisher get the VP nod? Thoughts?

Nope. Sanders would be far less useful as VP than senator, and I have yet to see anyone who really would be better than Julian Castro, both in qualifications and as a future for the party. Plus, I’m hoping that the combination of him and the Republicans attitudes towards immigration will get Latinos here in Texas to finally vote.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:54:59am

re: #474 Dr. Matt

So, with only two Democratic Party candidates, does the 2nd place finisher get the VP nod? Thoughts?

No, it’s going to be someone else. No way they go with two senior citizens on the ticket. Not trying to sound ageist but Sanders-Clinton or Clinton-Sanders wouldn’t work. I honestly have no idea who Bernie would consider but I think Clinton would have a lot of good choices to pick from like Julian Castro but also perhaps Cory Booker who like Castro has experience as a mayor of a fairly large city. I think Sanders would need to pick a woman honestly, a minority woman at that.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:55:03am

re: #478 sagehen

Nah… the contestants are the kind of guys who’d greet the cops with “Thank god you found me, can I get a ride to the nearest B&B Waffle House?”

FTFY

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:55:03am

re: #477 Decatur Deb

No. Much too similar.

You think? Hillary is much stronger on Foreign Policy (much like Biden). And Bernie is much more progressive on social issues (much like Biden). Hell….remind why Biden isn’t running????? :)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:55:17am

re: #458 HappyWarrior

This is partly why I argue that we need two functioning parties. The Republican Party is about one thing, and that is domination. There are no ideas to discuss, only how horrible Obama is, and how evil libtards are. That leaves the Democratic Party holding the rest of the bag, so to speak, and people on the left, who should be the core constituency of the party, are actually pushed aside because if anybody wants to get anything done at all, they have to slide to the center, and make deals with banks, delay pushing for further progress on their issues and endure lots of bad local and state governance like voter ID laws. If we had a viable Republican Party, the Democratic Party could go back to doing what it should do and advocate for more issues that the left side of the country wants it to.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:55:17am

re: #451 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

political correctness is so turn of the century!

it’s a meme that has run it’s course.

Political correctness is social engineering, an attempt to denormalize specific socially harmful attitudes. The problem has become that too many jumped on the PC wagon without understanding the purpose behind it, thinking that PC was an end in itself.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:56:24am

re: #474 Dr. Matt

Didn’t happen in 2008.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:56:27am

re: #486 Dr. Matt

You think? Hillary is much stronger on Foreign Policy (much like Biden). And Bernie is much more progressive on social issues (much like Biden). Hell….remind why Biden isn’t running????? :)

Personal reasons, from what I gather and not just “personal reasons” in polit-euphemism-speak.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:56:38am

re: #472 Decatur Deb

‘68 was a very good year for city girls who lived up the stairs with all that perfumed hair.

Armpit hair?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:56:38am

re: #484 HappyWarrior

No, it’s going to be someone else. No way they go with two senior citizens on the ticket. Not trying to sound ageist but Sanders-Clinton or Clinton-Sanders wouldn’t work. I honestly have no idea who Bernie would consider but I think Clinton would have a lot of good choices to pick from like Julian Castro but also perhaps Cory Booker who like Castro has experience as a mayor of a fairly large city. I think Sanders would need to pick a woman honestly, a minority woman at that.

Good point: “Optics”. It’s an unfortunate evil in politics.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:56:44am

re: #477 Decatur Deb

No. Much too similar.

Much too OLD.

I don’t want the backup to be drawing Social Security, thanks.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:56:55am

re: #448 b_sharp

A Møøse even. Did it bite?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:58:17am

re: #483 Belafon

Nope. Sanders would be far less useful as VP than senator, and I have yet to see anyone who really would be better than Julian Castro, both in qualifications and as a future for the party. Plus, I’m hoping that the combination of him and the Republicans attitudes towards immigration will get Latinos here in Texas to finally vote.

I really think that’s the plan. And I think it’s a solid one. Now there will be some complaints about his lack of experience but I’ll point out that San Antonio has twice as much people as Alaska does(thus a bigger economy to manage) and he was mayor much longer than Palin was governor of Alaska. And he’s presently administering a cabinet agency department. I really think he would be a great choice. Clinton doesn’t need a Biden like pick since she frankly is the Biden in this situation.
Edit- he’s administering an entire department not an aegncy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:58:25am

re: #488 b_sharp

Political correctness is social engineering, an attempt to denormalize specific socially harmful attitudes. The problem has become that too many jumped on the PC wagon without understanding the purpose behind it, thinking that PC was an end in itself.

Because, again, it is a matter of intent and context, and that is too much nuance to ask of people who want to complain about the unfairness of why “rappers can use the n-word and we can’t!”

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:58:50am

re: #494 lawhawk

A Møøse even. Did it bite?

Didn’t have a chance. My sister ate it with some fava beans.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:58:56am

re: #489 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Didn’t happen in 2008.

2008 is a bit different from today. There were more candidates early on and through the primaries. Biden, Edwards, and several others withdrew during the primaries.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 8:59:44am

re: #486 Dr. Matt

You think? Hillary is much stronger on Foreign Policy (much like Biden). And Bernie is much more progressive on social issues (much like Biden). Hell….remind why Biden isn’t running????? :)

re: #493 Testy Toad T

Much too OLD.

I don’t want the backup to be drawing Social Security, thanks.

Age, geography, social/political leanings—except for gender they are hardly different.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:00:26am

The saddest thing you’ll read this morning…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:01:03am

In 20 years our world is going to be so different from what it is now. I just smile at the old white men who want to Restore the Republic (that never was). Gawd, it was lost long ago—we’ve moved on to something new and diffferent.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:03:00am

re: #501 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

In 20 years our world is going to be so different from what it is now. I just smile at the old white men who want to Restore the Republic (that never was). Gawd, it was lost long ago—we’ve moved on to something new and diffferent.

Unfortunately, many of those old white men had children and raised their children to carry on their legacy of narrow mindedness.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:04:54am

re: #496 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because, again, it is a matter of intent and context, and that is too much nuance to ask of people who want to complain about the unfairness of why “rappers can use the n-word and we can’t!”

Nuance takes time & effort to unpack, best done by someone who questions everything, including themselves. Conservatives complain about liberals being wishy-washy and unable to come to quick decisions, but conservative’s snap to judgment approach can dig some pretty deep holes pretty quickly and become an impediment to progress.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:06:21am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

How hard would he whine when a foreign leader doesn’t bow and scrape at his feet? And, how long after that would it take for him to threaten war unless they apologized?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:07:13am

re: #502 Dr. Matt

Unfortunately, many of those old white men had children and raised their children to carry on their legacy of narrow mindedness.

Yeah, but those children will rebel. They are now and will continue to be an ever shrinking minority. As they grow, marry and have children with people who don’t look like them, I think we’ll see a positive change in thinking.

The whacko contingent will continue, as usual, to be on the fringe.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:11:01am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump really is in junior high school.

And his “Brought in record voters and got second highest vote total in history!” sounds like Carly bragging about the number of votes she got in her massive loss to Barbara Boxer.

Oh, and Donald, if success is measured by amount of time spent in a state, then I guess Santorum has a lock on South Carolina, as he is about to embark on a 46 county sweep. (He, Santorum, is currently polling at 0.3% in SC, so he obviously has his work cut out for him//)

Why in the world is anyone still giving money to Santorum? Lighting bills on fire would at least provide a few seconds of warmth.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:11:33am

re: #501 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

In 20 years our world is going to be so different from what it is now. I just smile at the old white men who want to Restore the Republic (that never was). Gawd, it was lost long ago—we’ve moved on to something new and diffferent.

The old white men want the serene, crime free, white picket fence neighbourhoods they remember from the past, not realizing their memories are selectively filtering out the hell holes they drove by and ignored every day that were the result of their bigotry & economic practices.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:13:08am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

The media has not covered my long-shot great finish in Iowa fairly. Brought in record voters and got second highest vote total in history!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 2, 2016

LOL. Donald Trump is bragging about finishing second and TIED with Rubio for number of delegates. You know who else finished in second: John McCain and Mitt Romney!

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:13:17am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s turned on the faucet. Here it comes. Ratcheting up to a scream ever so slowly. “WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:14:29am

re: #507 b_sharp

The old white men want the serene, crime free, white picket fence neighbourhoods they remember from the past, not realizing their memories are selectively filtering out the hell holes they drove by and ignored every day that were the result of their bigotry & economic practices.

There is so much “In my day” crap that I see from older people. I hope I don’t come off as attacking the older generation here with that. I just think older people tend to romanticize the past. My Mom was doing it one day and my brothers and I had to point out segregation existed back then, that gay people were put in mental asylums and treated as sick perverts, etc. I get why people get nostalgic about the past, I really do since it’s something every generation does as they get older but I think people need to take a firm look at the past and compare it with now.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:15:26am

Every notice that the comments you make that you expect to be updinged the most seldom are but your silliest comments, like “poopyheaded fart bender” can garner far more updings than they deserve?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:15:44am

re: #507 b_sharp

The old white men want the serene, crime free, white picket fence neighbourhoods they remember from the past, not realizing their memories are selectively filtering out the hell holes they drove by and ignored every day that were the result of their bigotry & economic practices.

Must have missed that part of the ’40s, ’50s, ’60s, ’70s, ’80s, ’90s…..

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:19:10am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:19:23am

re: #511 b_sharp

Every notice that the comments you make that you expect to be updinged the most seldom are but your silliest comments, like “poopyheaded fart bender” can garner far more updings than they deserve?

When you google “poopyheaded fart bender”, this comes up:

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:19:54am

re: #510 HappyWarrior

There is so much “In my day” crap that I see from older people. I hope I don’t come off as attacking the older generation here with that. I just think older people tend to romanticize the past. My Mom was doing it one day and my brothers and I had to point out segregation existed back then, that gay people were put in mental asylums and treated as sick perverts, etc. I get why people get nostalgic about the past, I really do since it’s something every generation does as they get older but I think people need to take a firm look at the past and compare it with now.

I remember those idyllic neighbourhoods. My grandparents lived in one, as did we. I also remember not seeing poor people, blacks or aboriginals living there, women not working outside of the home, and child/spousal abuse accepted as ‘natural’.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:20:36am

re: #513 lawhawk

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Oh so he wants a show trial?

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:20:55am

re: #514 Dr. Matt

When you google “”poopyheaded fart bender”, this comes up:

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Why did you Google it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:21:40am

re: #517 b_sharp

Why did you Google it?

I was holding his beer while he did that.

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Franklin  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:21:46am

re: #517 b_sharp

Why did you Google it?

The same reason that dogs lick their b*lls. Because they can.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:22:46am

re: #517 b_sharp

Why did you Google it?

Why wouldn’t I?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:23:04am

re: #515 b_sharp

I remember those idyllic neighbourhoods. My grandparents lived in one, as did we. I also remember not seeing poor people, blacks or aboriginals living there, women not working outside of the home, and child/spousal abuse accepted as ‘natural’.

Should have visited our slum. We’d have taught you how to swipe roofing tar to use as chewing gum.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:23:14am

LOL

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:23:24am

I’m seeing mentions on Facebook that Bernie has ended up with a .3% lead now. No sources, just much whooping and hollering.

Is this for real, or wishful thinking by the Berniacs?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:23:50am

re: #502 Dr. Matt

Unfortunately, many of those old white men had children and raised their children to carry on their legacy of narrow mindedness.

and a lot more of them grew up highly cynical and ready support which ever political ideology or movement promoted their own personal ambitions…

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:23:58am

re: #520 Dr. Matt

Why wouldn’t I?

Because it’s the internet and that is a dangerous search.

:P

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:24:26am

re: #523 makeitstop

I’m seeing mentions on Facebook that Bernie has ended up with a .3% lead now. No sources, just much whooping and hollering.

Is this for real, or wishful thinking by the Berniacs?

At this point, what difference does it make?

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Jenner7  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:24:50am

re: #523 makeitstop

Just checked and as far as Huffington Post poll goes, she’s won.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:25:12am

re: #503 b_sharp

Nuance takes time & effort to unpack, best done by someone who questions everything, including themselves. Conservatives complain about liberals being wishy-washy and unable to come to quick decisions, but conservative’s snap to judgment approach can dig some pretty deep holes pretty quickly and become an impediment to progress.

Just find a verse of Scripture that supports your viewpoint and lay it down…what could be quicker or easier….or more RIGHT?!?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:25:12am

Watch, share and watch again:
Jimmy Carter: Why I believe the mistreatment of women is the number one human rights abuse

Pay attention, especially, around 13:33

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:25:46am

re: #522 De Kolta Chair

LOL

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This is going to be fun. Either they nominate Cruz or Trump or they nominate someone like Rubio. They’re fucked either way IMO.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:25:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:25:57am

re: #523 makeitstop

I’m seeing mentions on Facebook that Bernie has ended up with a .3% lead now. No sources, just much whooping and hollering.

Is this for real, or wishful thinking by the Berniacs?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:26:43am

re: #531 GlutenFreeJesus

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:26:53am

re: #510 HappyWarrior

There is so much “In my day” crap that I see from older people. I hope I don’t come off as attacking the older generation here with that. I just think older people tend to romanticize the past.

You mean things like strong unions and a 90% tax rate on upper income brackets?

Selectivity goes both ways…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:27:08am

re: #523 makeitstop

I’m seeing mentions on Facebook that Bernie has ended up with a .3% lead now. No sources, just much whooping and hollering.

Is this for real, or wishful thinking by the Berniacs?

As of 11:37 am, AP is reporting that Clinton has a 0.3% lead.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:28:01am

re: #521 Decatur Deb

Should have visited our slum. We’d have taught you how to swipe roofing tar to use as chewing gum.

Holy shit. You chewed pitch too??!?? I’m not kidding.

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Lidane  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:28:21am

re: #529 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I’ve got President Carter’s newest book on my Kindle. Got it from the library the other day and I’ve been reading it to remind myself that yes, I’m a liberal. Working in a Republican office doesn’t change that.

Good stuff. He’s the first POTUS I remember, since he got elected when I was 3. I still have a soft spot for him now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:28:29am

re: #534 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You mean things like strong unions and a 90% tax rate on upper income brackets?

Selectivity goes both ways…

Sure absolutely. I’ve pointed out to lefty friends who think we can return to those brackets and labor being what it was then are being foolish. I’m staunchly pro labor and very much a supporter of a progressive income tax but I’m also realistic in that I know you can’t go from having a labor force that is in the teens unionized to I believe 40% at the peak and a bracket from 35% to 90%.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:28:59am

re: #507 b_sharp

The old white men want the serene, crime free, white picket fence neighbourhoods they remember from the past, not realizing their memories are selectively filtering out the hell holes they drove by and ignored every day that were the result of their bigotry & economic practices.

Or the hell that was happening behind those picket fences.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:29:07am

re: #533 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the trend that has me pessimistic. GOP voters are more motivated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:29:17am

re: #532 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes. The Iowa SOS declared it. They split the statewide pledged delegates 22 Clinton, 21 Sanders.

But she was a liar the first time she announced it!!!

/

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:29:23am

re: #536 nines09

Holy shit. You chewed pitch too??!?? I’m not kidding.

Had to get it from the proper spill on the side of the pot, chewable, but not too hot. Brighter, whiter teeth.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:29:24am

Fun with Arabic numerals===>

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:29:35am

re: #521 Decatur Deb

Should have visited our slum. We’d have taught you how to swipe roofing tar to use as chewing gum.

We did the same, but the roofing tar was from new houses & schools being built. One thing I noticed at the time (’60s), was that the newer areas started putting 5’ wooden fences around the yards where in my grandparent’s areas the fences were only a couple of feet high. And they actually were white picket fences.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:29:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:30:49am

re: #538 HappyWarrior

Sure absolutely. I’ve pointed out to lefty friends who think we can return to those brackets and labor being what it was then are being foolish. I’m staunchly pro labor and very much a supporter of a progressive income tax but I’m also realistic in that I know you can’t go from having a labor force that is in the teens unionized to I believe 40% at the peak and a bracket from 35% to 90%.

Instead we have people like MItt Romney paying a lower tax rate than a McDonald’s employee…

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Unabogie  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:30:49am

So I love this so much. Two months ago I trolled Kurt Schlichter about some hilarious brain fart he had on TV. And he’s still butthurt about it! I get a few likes and retweets of this a week. By far the only thing I’ve ever said on Twitter that anyone ever noticed :-)

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:31:24am

CNN just updated their data a minute ago at: cnn.com

clinton 50% 24
sanders 50% 21
o’malley 0% 0

Yet, it is CNN….

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:31:36am

re: #546 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Instead we have people like MItt Romney paying a lower tax rate than a McDonald’s employee…

Right, my position is we need to fix that and then we can talk about having higher brackets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:31:37am

re: #543 De Kolta Chair

Fun with Arabic numerals===>

357

CCCLVII

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:31:57am

re: #536 nines09

Holy shit. You chewed pitch too??!?? I’m not kidding.

We sure did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:32:04am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:33:03am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Really asshole you want to make it okay for me to be denied because of my heart condition again? Wait don’t you actually focus on improving ACA rather than trying to get rid of it because you can’t stand that Obama has accomplishments.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:33:10am

re: #544 b_sharp

We did the same, but the roofing tar was from new houses & schools being built. One thing I noticed at the time (’60s), was that the newer areas started putting 5’ wooden fences around the yards where in my grandparent’s areas the fences were only a couple of feet high. And they actually were white picket fences.

Probably the result of shrinking lot sizes, for line-of-sight privacy.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:35:24am

re: #542 Decatur Deb

There was a lumber yard close to where we would play Home Run Derby with wiffle ball. They had 5 gallon cans of roof pitch and someone poked a nail into one of the cans, and in the heat it would slowly ooze out. It was right by the chain link, and our little arms could reach it. Break off a piece, roll it up, and chew. Did that quite a few times. Had to have chaw to play HRD. Crazy others did that. How about that.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:35:26am

re: #554 Decatur Deb

Probably the result of shrinking lot sizes, for line-of-sight privacy.

Possibly, but our yard was much bigger than my grandparent’s yard. The short fences were neighbourly, while the taller fences were privacy.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:35:50am
Yeah, those serene booze colored days of yore. Martini lunches and dinner on the table when you got home.

So peaceful, when everyone is walking on egg-shells around you. They serve, they doted, so fearful of your rages.

Life is good when you are king of the hill.

Thing is there never was such a time in this country in which life was serene. We’ve been working, fighting, evolving, settling and building since 1492.

What is there to restore?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:37:24am

re: #551 b_sharp

We sure did.

I used to make spruce gum out of the pitch from spruce trees.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:38:52am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rep Tom Price: pretty sure rescission and denial of care isn’t “patient centered” and that’s what you advocate.

“Patient centered” in the sense that individual patients and families rather than state exchanges would be expected to negotiate for terms of care with multi-million-dollar health-care providers.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:39:07am

re: #555 nines09

There was a lumber yard close to where we would play Home Run Derby with wiffle ball. They had 5 gallon cans of roof pitch and someone poked a nail into one of the cans, and in the heat it would slowly ooze out. It was right by the chain link, and our little arms could reach it. Break off a piece, roll it up, and chew. Did that quite a few times. Had to have chaw to play HRD. Crazy others did that. How about that.

Mmmmmm. Coal-tar derivatives.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:39:41am

re: #560 Decatur Deb

Mmmmmm. Coal-tar derivatives.

I hear they prevent dandruff.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:39:46am

re: #558 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I used to make spruce gum out of the pitch from spruce trees.

We also made gum of wheat.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:40:16am

re: #559 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“Patient centered” in the sense that individual patients and families rather than state exchanges should be expected to negotiate for terms of care with multi-million-dollar health-care providers.

Because they have so much spare time to do this properly???

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:41:11am

re: #563 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Because they have so much spare time to do this properly???

yes, and they have massive reserves to fall back on, too…that is the point: there is no level playing field in a market where individual and families are pitted against corporations.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:41:11am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

Patient centered care? Stick sick folks with bill, prevent them from getting insurance in first place, and destroy a marketplace that allows insurers to compete for insureds.

Oh, and the CBO/JCT have repeatedly and categorically stated that any repeal of ACA would end up costing nation billions more than it’d save.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:41:16am

re: #562 b_sharp

We also made gum of wheat.

gluten-full gum?

BTW, I was from one of those idyllic white picket fence neighborhoods.

I wasn’t allowed to chew gum —better for one’s teeth.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:45:56am

re: #323 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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Whoa! Wack-a-doodle alert!

Just posted a page about it.

She needs laid.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:47:04am

re: #566 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

gluten-full gum?

BTW, I was from one of those idyllic white picket fence neighborhoods.

I wasn’t allowed to chew gum —better for one’s teeth.

I was thin and limber, so it was my job to go over the transom when the landlords locked us out of our one-room rentals. That way my mother could rescue as much as we could carry.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:47:17am

Heh.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:47:39am
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:48:32am

re: #550 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

CCCLVII

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:48:56am

re: #567 Eventual Carrion

She needs laid.

and maybe some weed.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:49:11am

re: #561 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I hear they prevent dandruff.

Kills lice. It was a smell once you knew, you could pick out of a crowd. Kids would be terrified you would know. Go out and buy some coal tar dandruff shampoo. Rinse hair and lather up (don‘t worry, it’s supposed to be stinky). Leave the shampoo in for at least 15 minutes (30 minutes for adults). Before rinsing out the shampoo, brush the hair with a fine-toothed, metal, lice comb. You might already see the slightly disgusting results of your work in the form of tiny corpses. Remain calm. Rinse hair. Then repeat brushing to remove lice and eggs (aka “nits”). Repeat this treatment three days consecutively and then 2-3 times during the following week or until no lice/eggs remain. I know the most annoying part of the process is going through the hair and scalp with a lice-comb (hence the phrase “nit-picking”) but it is important. Don’t shirk the duty and you’ll be lice-free in no time.

Make sure you use a dandruff shampoo that contains coal tar (such as Denorex Shampoo Therapeutic with coal tar) and not another active ingredient. It’s coal tar that is the key. Now, you should know (full disclosure and all that) that anything containing over 5% coal tar is considered a carcinogen and could be dangerous with continual use. If you don’t care a hoot about the dangers we’d still encourage you to have a chat with your doctor before proceeding with a product over 5%. However, according to the National Psoriasis Foundation up to 5% coal tar is safe for human use. Which is great news for us and lousy news for your average louse.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:49:21am

re: #569 lawhawk

Heh.

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I was thinking that pic was from Caddy-Shack.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:50:24am

It’s getting dark outside.

OMINOUS!

MAKES me think of Vincent Price.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:50:35am

I’ve been seeing on Twitter claims that Hillary won because of a coin toss. What does that mean?

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Lidane  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:52:28am

re: #576 b_sharp

I’ve been seeing on Twitter claims that Hillary won because of a coin toss. What does that mean?

Six coin tosses, apparently. I have no idea what it means either, but one of my friends was talking about it on FB.

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Lidane  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:53:14am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:53:41am

re: #577 Lidane

Six coin tosses, apparently. I have no idea what it means either, but one of my friends was talking about it on FB.

sounds like someone is implying that the whole dog n’ pony show is orchestrated.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:53:57am

¿Jeb? spent about $2800 per vote in the Iowa caucuses. I wish he had been advertising this.

I would have driven to Iowa and caucused for ¿Jeb? for half that!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:54:03am

re: #576 b_sharp

I’ve been seeing on Twitter claims that Hillary won because of a coin toss. What does that mean?

Lol@how we run our primaries and such.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:54:31am

re: #580 Testy Toad T

¿Jeb? spent about $2800 per vote in the Iowa caucuses. I wish he had been advertising this.

I would have driven to Iowa and caucused for ¿Jeb? for half that!

The Election Industry is lucrative.

583
De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:54:35am

What is it about the food at the Harney County Jail that makes people want to stay? //

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Lidane  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:54:48am
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:55:21am

re: #584 Lidane

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Ok, 10 points. Raise his grade to an F-.

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harlequinade  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:56:33am

re: #579 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

desmoinesregister.com

Apparently they flipped a coin…

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:56:38am

re: #578 Lidane

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Yep.
That’s where I am.
ProNotaR

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:57:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:58:37am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:59:38am

re: #589 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sorry, Jeb@.
We don’t speak to losers round these parts.
/BAM!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 9:59:57am

re: #589 Backwoods_Sleuth

It means Jeb won 3% last night.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:00:09am

re: #589 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:00:13am

Well if I learned one thing this Ground Hog Day, besides VooDoo Phil sez early spring, it’s that others chewed roof pitch as children and lived.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:01:33am

re: #589 Backwoods_Sleuth

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God, ¡Jeb! is such a liberal on foreign policy. How that Democratic Peace Theory work out in Iraq and Afghanistan?

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:01:50am

re: #589 Backwoods_Sleuth

JEB? Talking to the flora and fauna of Teabagistan.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:01:52am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

Patient Centered!!!! Sell insurance across state lines!!!!

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:02:59am

re: #573 nines09

Or… shave your head.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:03:21am

re: #565 lawhawk

Patient centered care? Stick sick folks with bill, prevent them from getting insurance in first place, and destroy a marketplace that allows insurers to compete for insureds.

Oh, and the CBO/JCT have repeatedly and categorically stated that any repeal of ACA would end up costing nation billions more than it’d save.

By ‘patient centered care’ they mean the system that existed before the ACA, including pre-existing condition denials and such.

/

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:03:31am

Stop it. Just stop it.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:03:32am

Trumps almost came in third.
I am most amused.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:03:54am

re: #577 Lidane

Six coin tosses, apparently. I have no idea what it means either, but one of my friends was talking about it on FB.

In a few precincts, they were exactly tied. And the state party doesn’t accept ties.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:04:28am

but Obama is the messiah…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:04:33am

re: #598 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

By ‘patient centered care’ they mean the system that existed before the ACA, including pre-existing condition denials and such.

/

Teh ban on pre-existing conditions as a reason to deny coverage is a big reason why I defend the law. The law isn’t perfect but because right wing opponents of ACA don’t have a problem with pre-existing condition denials, they really can kiss my ass.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:04:33am

re: #586 harlequinade

desmoinesregister.com

Apparently they flipped a coin…

I read the article. It certainly doesn’t look like the coin flips decided anything.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:04:54am

re: #553 HappyWarrior

Really asshole you want to make it okay for me to be denied because of my heart condition again?

Why, yes, yes they do.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:05:11am

re: #599 De Kolta Chair

Stop it. Just stop it.

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I like your Bernie, I do not like your supporters. Your supporters are so unlike your Bernie.
- Gandhi, maybe.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:05:20am

re: #599 De Kolta Chair

Stop it. Just stop it.

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Seriously.

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Bass Reeves  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:05:48am
Now granted I will concede that a lot of racial problems are also economic.

This is a problem I have with Bernie. He believes this, contrary to the actual evidence. Racists don’ t hate minorities because they are poor, they hate them because they are ‘other’. The economic angle is used to *disguise* the actual racism, or further punish minorities in the first place. When the big mortgage lenders were found to have basically screwed over minority couples, they weren’t only doing it to people on the lower end of the economic spectrum, or those who were credit risks. They were doing it to *minorities*.

You can’t solve racial problems with economic solutions.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:06:24am

re: #593 nines09

Well if I learned one thing this Ground Hog Day, besides VooDoo Phil sez early spring, it’s that others chewed roof pitch as children and lived.

Oh, I didn’t survive it. I’m a zombie.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:06:39am

Why that isn’t bigger news: The GOP don’t have the numbers to make that happen. But that wont stop them from trying.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:07:25am

re: #608 Bass Reeves

This is a problem I have with Bernie. He believes this, contrary to the actual evidence. Racists don’ t hate minorities because they are poor, they hate them because they are ‘other’. The economic angle is used to *disguise* the actual racism, or further punish minorities in the first place. When the big mortgage lenders were found to have basically screwed over minority couples, they weren’t only doing it to people on the lower end of the economic spectrum, or those who were credit risks. They were doing it to *minorities*.

You can’t solve racial problems with economic solutions.

Absolutely.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:07:33am

re: #608 Bass Reeves

This is a problem I have with Bernie. He believes this, contrary to the actual evidence. Racists don’ t hate minorities because they are poor, they hate them because they are ‘other’. The economic angle is used to *disguise* the actual racism, or further punish minorities in the first place. When the big mortgage lenders were found to have basically screwed over minority couples, they weren’t only doing it to people on the lower end of the economic spectrum, or those who were credit risks. They were doing it to *minorities*.

You can’t solve racial problems with economic solutions.

Racists also don’t hate minorities for being wealthy. They just hate minorities.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:08:33am

re: #597 sagehen

Or… shave your head.

Do you realize what your head would look like with a Gillette Blue safety razor dragged across it? “Let your sister do it” as her eyes light up….in a not good way. They didn’t intend styptic pen to cover gouges.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:09:07am

re: #612 Belafon

Racists also don’t hate minorities for being wealthy. They just hate minorities.

If they happen to be wealthy, it’s just another reason but it’s never the reason. I think Clinton has handled the BLM issue a lot better than Sanders has and honestly the way Sanders’ supporters responded to BLM activists was something I found really really condescending. They really think that Bernie shouldn’t be protested. There’s a lot of smugness in them that I don’t like.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:09:10am

re: #612 Belafon

Racists also don’t hate minorities for being wealthy. They just hate minorities.

I think some hate them because for being POTUS.

Literally. It’s as if they blame all Afrikan-American’s because our POTUS is AA.

non-logical hate think

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:10:01am

re: #608 Bass Reeves

This is a problem I have with Bernie. He believes this, contrary to the actual evidence. Racists don’ t hate minorities because they are poor, they hate them because they are ‘other’. The economic angle is used to *disguise* the actual racism, or further punish minorities in the first place. When the big mortgage lenders were found to have basically screwed over minority couples, they weren’t only doing it to people on the lower end of the economic spectrum, or those who were credit risks. They were doing it to *minorities*.

You can’t solve racial problems with economic solutions.

Noun, verb, big banks!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:10:11am

re: #615 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I think some hate them because for being POTUS.

Literally. It’s as if they blame all Afrikan-American’s because our POTUS is AA.

non-logical hate think

Well let’s be clear here, they hated African-Americans before most of us knew who Barack Obama was and with the older ones before he was even born.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:11:04am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:11:47am

re: #275 lawhawk

Hands up don’t shoot - but resist law enforcement at every opportunity because freedom!

Run a road block, almost kill a cop, reach for your gun. DON’T SHOOT!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:13:33am

re: #614 HappyWarrior

Things I’ve seen indicate that Clinton is doing much better among minority voters than Bernie is.

That’s the reason there were the tweets posted here last night about how the pundits are dealing with the blind spot of the “white liberal” base. Because if you’re insisting that Bernie has a shot nationally, that this could be a tie …you’re disregarding the fact that the voters in the Democratic primary are not all white. And while it might be close to a tie among the white liberals, it’s not particularly close among the minority liberals.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:14:31am

re: #614 HappyWarrior

the way Sanders’ supporters responded to BLM activists was something I found really really condescending. They really think that Bernie shouldn’t be protested. There’s a lot of smugness in them that I don’t like.

Personal anecdotes may vary, but eight times out of ten when I explain to a bern-feeler why I support Clinton on the issues, I’m met with either a treasonous stare or genuine befuddlement.

“He’s, but… he’s Bernie. Are you sure you’re even a Democrat?”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:14:41am

re: #617 HappyWarrior

Well let’s be clear here, they hated African-Americans before most of us knew who Barack Obama was and with the older ones before he was even born.

Not so sure. Xenophobia is a weird thing.

There an idea that there is some mythical “them” —the hoards, I guess. Those who will never be useful to society or clean or whatever. Those that would always take what you have than work. I think some basic human fear in people came to the surface and is expressed as hate after 9/11 and really hit home when Obama was elected.

Someone referred to it upthread. About hating the poor because they are poor. In this country that has a dark skinned face —although the majority of the poor are white. The majority of those who “take” thru social entitlements are white.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:15:02am

Racism does have economic causes I will admit but it also has to do with culture as well. I think he never considers how in the Deep South that white people for generations were weened on the lie that the South’s secession was just, that it was about states rights, and that African-Americans liked the system of Jim Crow. Now is there economic factors here? But I think not the way is being thought. The Southern Planter class for generations could point to enslaved African-Americans and say to the poor whites “Hey, you may be poor as hell but at least you’re free and not a n-word.” There’s also the role of religion too. Religion was used to justify slavery and Jim Crow. Economics is something but culture means a whole lot too.

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gwangung  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:15:37am

re: #620 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Things I’ve seen indicate that Clinton is doing much better among minority voters than Bernie is.

That’s because Clinton has been working with minorities for a much longer time than Sanders has. That still means something.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:17:12am

re: #623 HappyWarrior

Racism does have economic causes I will admit but it also has to do with culture as well. I think he never considers how in the Deep South that white people for generations were weened on the lie that the South’s secession was just, that it was about states rights, and that African-Americans liked the system of Jim Crow. Now is there economic factors here? But I think not the way is being thought. The Southern Planter class for generations could point to enslaved African-Americans and say to the poor whites “Hey, you may be poor as hell but at least you’re free and not a n-word.” There’s also the role of religion too. Religion was used to justify slavery and Jim Crow. Economics is something but culture means a whole lot too.

It’s about Power. Those with fewer economic resources are less powerfull —therefore God must love them less, they are deserving of whatever abuse they get and the powerful feel they are absolved from whatever abuse they give.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:17:15am

re: #624 gwangung

That’s because Clinton has been working with minorities for a much longer time than Sanders has. That still means something.

And credit to her for that.

She also does seem to understand that racism does not flow from economic issues, and fixing economic issues will not magically make racism go away.

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Lidane  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:17:29am

In sportsball news, this just happened:

My surprise, etc.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:17:45am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:17:57am

re: #620 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Things I’ve seen indicate that Clinton is doing much better among minority voters than Bernie is.

That’s the reason there were the tweets posted here last night about how the pundits are dealing with the blind spot of the “white liberal” base. Because if you’re insisting that Bernie has a shot nationally, that this could be a tie …you’re disregarding the fact that the voters in the Democratic primary are not all white. And while it might be close to a tie among the white liberals, it’s not particularly close among the minority liberals.

I’ve observed that as well Re: minority voters and I think it’s something his diehards just don’t get. They like that he has an impressive record but Clinton has more meat on the bone so to speak. I personally think Sanders has come perhaps well intentioned but a little distant of issues important to minority voters in the party.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:18:38am

A reasonable explanation of last night (from a kos commenter)

Rubio won by coming in third. Trump lost by coming in second. Sanders won by coming in second. Hillary lost by coming in first. Everyone hates Cruz.

And then there’s this, in light of the media’s ebullience about Marco

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:18:42am

re: #624 gwangung

That’s because Clinton has been working with minorities for a much longer time than Sanders has. That still means something.

Yep and she has my respect and praise for that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:20:13am

re: #626 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And credit to her for that.

She also does seem to understand that racism does not flow from economic issues, and fixing economic issues will not magically make racism go away.

Yep. One thing I’ve noticed with her and this is why she’s grown on me is that I think she really tries to like the President try to look at many angles of an issue. I think Bernie too often is only looking at economics as a cause of things whether it’s war, racism, etc. Fixing income inequalities would be great but we’d still have social inequalities.

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Franklin  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:20:39am

Apologies if already posted…

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:20:43am

re: #627 Lidane

In sportsball news, this just happened:

My surprise, etc.

There’s a high probability he’ll get picked up by the Cowboys.

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Kragar  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:21:29am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:22:02am

re: #635 Kragar

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The right ot have bombs should not be restricted. //

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:22:19am

re: #627 Lidane

In sportsball news, this just happened:

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My surprise, etc.

Yeah no surprise there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:22:51am

all kinds of weather today

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:22:57am

Have a good one all!

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:23:06am

re: #635 Kragar

Militant member of ‘United States Patriot Army’ busted in Florida with shrapnel-filled bombs t.co

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 2, 2016

Here is a pic of the terrorist patriot:

And no one is surprised…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:23:37am

re: #612 Belafon

Racists also don’t hate minorities for being wealthy. They just hate minorities.

Obama could have been an absolute poster child for the right to hold up to prove that we live in a post-racial America where anyone who works hard and applies themselves can get ahead, even achieving the nation’s highest elected office.

But that would have meant saying nice things, however indirectly, about Obama, which is something they just could not bring themselves to do, so they branded him an Affirmative Action baby who probably edged out a much more qualified white applicant for job of editor of the Harvard Law Review…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:23:59am

For the record, I thought last night’s X-Files was pretty epic.

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nines09  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:25:38am

re: #640 Dr. Matt

I wonder how his neighbors feel? I’ll bet he was a great guy. Easy to talk to. Calming influence. All round square Joe. //

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Franklin  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:25:41am

re: #642 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

For the record, I thought last night’s X-Files was pretty epic.

Indeed. Best of the season so far.

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harlequinade  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:25:55am

re: #604 b_sharp

they….just read the headline…?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:25:59am

re: #622 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Not so sure. Xenophobia is a weird thing.

There an idea that there is some mythical “them” —the hoards, I guess. Those who will never be useful to society or clean or whatever. Those that would always take what you have than work. I think some basic human fear in people came to the surface and is expressed as hate after 9/11 and really hit home when Obama was elected.

Someone referred to it upthread. About hating the poor because they are poor. In this country that has a dark skinned face —although the majority of the poor are white. The majority of those who “take” thru social entitlements are white.

Well remember Reagan was speaking about states rights in Philadelphia, Mississippi and often talked about “young bucks” buying steaks on Welfare, the Willie Horton ad, and also of course Jesse Helms who promised to make life miserable for the first African-American woman in the Senate. I do think hating the other is a time honored tradition though but I think blacks are a constant target of hate whereas other targets of hate like Catholics and Jews change.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:26:52am

re: #641 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Obama could have been an absolute poster child for the right to hold up to prove that we live in a post-racial America where anyone who works hard and applies themselves can get ahead, even achieving the nation’s highest elected office.

But that would have meant saying nice things, however indirectly, about Obama, which is something they just could not bring themselves to do, so they branded him an Affirmative Action baby who probably edged out a much more qualified white applicant for job of editor of the Harvard Law Review…

Yeah they can’t bring themselves to admit that the President has accomplished a lot in his life. It’s really truly sad.

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Kragar  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:27:21am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:27:52am
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gwangung  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:29:24am

re: #647 HappyWarrior

Yeah they can’t bring themselves to admit that the President has accomplished a lot in his life. It’s really truly sad.

Repeat with any other prominent Democratic minority. They’re all affirmative action/pity hires (Sotomayor et al). Which is kinda racist in and of itself.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:29:36am

re: #649 Dr. Matt

Ted Nugent is klassy as ever:

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Hey Ted aren’t you supposed to be dead or in a cell? Really are you that miserable? Oh and by the way your guns suck even worse than your music and that make you look like a loser who needs to hoard to compensate for having a tiny schlong.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:30:33am

re: #650 gwangung

Repeat with any other prominent Democratic minority. They’re all affirmative action/pity hires.

Of course, I’m expecting it if Julian Castro or Cory Booker is the nominee for VP. Especially with Julian who admits that him and his brother benefited from AA.

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:31:01am

re: #638 Backwoods_Sleuth

all kinds of weather today

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Does the US get tornadoes in every month of the year?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:32:00am

re: #653 b_sharp

Does the US get tornadoes in every month of the year?

I think so yeah.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:36:38am

re: #653 b_sharp

Does the US get tornadoes in every month of the year?

weather.com

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b_sharp  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:40:16am

re: #655 Not a Sparkly Vampire

weather.com

Thanks.

Wow. We only get them for 4 months of the year.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:41:23am

re: #656 b_sharp

Thanks.

Wow. We only get them for 4 months of the year.

USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!USA!
/USA!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:43:48am

re: #619 GlutenFreeJesus

Run a road block, almost kill a cop, reach for your gun. DON’T SHOOT!

Wrong script. Even LaVoy’s supporting witness said he kept repeating “Shoot me, shoot me.”

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blueraven  Feb 2, 2016 • 10:45:10am

re: #319 sagehen

For a northerner hoping to make a future in the Democratic party, being anti-segregation was a mainstream position. The Rockefeller Republicans would have been onboard with it too.

Being “onboard” and taking action are two different animals.
Hillary has proven herself to be a person of action, not just a person of talk.

re: #586 harlequinade

desmoinesregister.com

Apparently they flipped a coin…

These were county delegates, not statewide delegate equivalents.

Similar situations played out at various precincts across the state, but had an extremely small effect on the overall outcome, in which Clinton won 49.9 percent of statewide delegate equivalents, while Sanders won 49.5 percent. The delegates that were decided by coin flips were delegates to the party’s county conventions, of which there are thousands selected across the state from 1,681 separate precincts. They were not the statewide delegate equivalents that are reported in the final results.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2016 • 11:00:28am

re: #646 HappyWarrior

I do think hating the other is a time honored tradition though but I think blacks are a constant target of hate whereas other targets of hate like Catholics and Jews change.

Because they’re easier to identify at 50 paces.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 2, 2016 • 11:20:20am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

HW said that!? I must have missed that one. I always considered HW to be the last semi-reasonable Republican. Wow.

It was reported

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EPR-radar  Feb 2, 2016 • 11:30:55am

re: #223 Kent Dorfman

Right now, no, but my decision may evolve as the race plays out. This country needs to be united by a strong leader. This leader needs to reach across the aisle.

This is stupidity on stilts. There is no such thing as reaching across the aisle between Democrats and this Republican party.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2016 • 11:47:38am

re: #210 Dr. Matt

I’ll support any ‘D’ that can will the White House for one single and vital reason: The SCOTUS. The next POTUS will likely nominate 2 or more openings on the High Court. If Bernie loses and his dudebros decide to stay home because they didn’t get their way, they deserve every shitty decision the High Court will bring down on this country for another generation.

Hell, no…if that ever came to pass, I’d give Bern-bros shit to the end of time, because their temper tantrum will have affected not just them, but every American, for decades to come.

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TedStriker  Feb 2, 2016 • 11:49:10am

re: #223 Kent Dorfman

Right now, no, but my decision may evolve as the race plays out. This country needs to be united by a strong leader. This leader needs to reach across the aisle.

Let me clue you in: Bernie ain’t it.

He’s got some good ideas, but a President they do not make.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:38:10pm

re: #634 Belafon

There’s a high probability he’ll get picked up by the Cowboys.

Ahh yes, the Cowboys. This way when he gets in trouble in Texas, like this past weekend, he won’t have far to go for trials and his friends ad family can come visit him in jail.

He has some talent, but he has a ten cent brain.

As a Browns fan…good riddance.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 2, 2016 • 1:58:11pm

Haven’t read the thread yet, but will take the opportunity to post comment number 666. Cuz how often do I get to do that?
Obligatory debbil-worshippin’ backward masking:
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palomino  Feb 2, 2016 • 2:08:49pm

re: #223 Kent Dorfman

Right now, no, but my decision may evolve as the race plays out. This country needs to be united by a strong leader. This leader needs to reach across the aisle.

The fact you think that’s possible is cute, but hopelessly ignorant and naive. Have you paid attention to the last 16 years of American politics? What makes you think any of the people in this race (mostly ideological diehards) can reach across the aisle? Continue to enjoy the Peppermint Park candy land you currently reside in.

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WCBadger  Feb 3, 2016 • 10:02:43am

A beautiful song.


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