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Kragar  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:06:00pm

So, did I miss anything?

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:06:37pm

Bernie’s life story is more compelling.

But then again, so is Rick Santorum’s.

A life story with which one can sympathize or identify doesn’t mean that person is a good choice for President.

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Brian J.  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:06:45pm

I’m biased, I know, but a great job by Secretary Clinton. She “won” the debate pretty handily by knowing what she was about on all of the issues, while Bernie’s got some pretty big lacunae in his knowledge base. Sadly, I doubt it’ll be enough to turn things around in New Hampshire, but hope springs eternal.

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:06:51pm

re: #1 Kragar

So, did I miss anything?

Chuck Todd carrying water for Donald Trump.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:09:45pm

re: #4 freetoken

Chuck Todd carrying water for Donald Trump.

Must be tough carrying water from his knees.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:09:50pm

re: #2 freetoken

Bernie’s life story is more compelling.

But then again, so is Rick Santorum’s.

A life story with which one can sympathize or identify doesn’t mean that person is a good choice for President.

I can relate to Senator Sander’s story:

My family fled the Nazis from Poland. My paternal grandfather fought (and died) in WW2 in the American Army. My grandmother was in the WAC.

(Rep. Steve King would deport me though as the child of an “anchor baby.”)

The point (though not clear) is that immigrants to the country help strengthen it (Sander’s father was penniless, Sanders himself is now running for President).

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Tigger2  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:10:12pm

Well Chuck your Email questions sucked, you were beating a dead horse.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:10:39pm

re: #1 Kragar

Chuck. Todd. You lucky bastard.

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:11:12pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:11:21pm

re: #3 Brian J.

New Hampshire is next door to Vermont. It’s practically hometurf for him.

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Great White Snark  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:11:23pm

Pulled another extra long day. Missed the show. Just kinda hoping President HRC might get Bernie to head up SEC. Put that guy where he can make his best points into the point of the regulatory spear.

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:11:32pm

Repeat from downstairs…

Stand up you millions, and say loudly we are not going to take it anymore, we want revolutionary change…

And the Republicans in their tight little controlled districts sing…
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo dooooooooo….

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Brian J.  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:13:12pm

re: #12 ObserverArt

Repeat from downstairs…

Stand up you millions, and say loudly we are not going to take it anymore, we want revolutionary change…

And the Republicans in their tight little controlled districts sing…
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo dooooooooo….

Of course, it’s not all gerrymandering. My state would have to be pretty aggressively gerrymandered for Democrats to win more than one of six districts now; the white-majority areas won’t vote for any Democrat. Putting a socialist on a ticket would be accepting the challenge to win none.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:13:13pm

This showed up on my TL. Looks like Bernie vs. Hillary supporters over the last few days:

This is what happens when gators don’t respect each other’s personal space. #FloridaWildlife #WeLiveHereThis happened…

Posted by FOX 13 News - Tampa Bay on Thursday, February 4, 2016
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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:13:43pm

re: #10 Ziggy_TARDIS

New Hampshire is next door to Vermont. It’s practically hometurf for him.

New Hampshire is practically next door to New York for Mrs. Clinton too (well, about a hundred miles away).

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Jenner7  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:13:59pm

I thought Hillary won this one, hands down. Hillary basically gave Bernie a way to go after her and he failed spectacularly. He turned it into a general speech. Also, he’s way out of his league on foreign policy. It was embarrassing.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:14:51pm

re: #15 Anymouse

New Hampshire is practically next door to New York for Mrs. Clinton too (well, about a hundred miles away).

In terms of demographics, New Hampshire has a whole lot more in common with Vermont than it does with New York.

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jaunte  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:15:02pm

This evening I listened to Chris Matthews explain that he had just learned “mano-a-mano” meant hand to hand, not man to man. Stunning.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:15:56pm

re: #17 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In terms of demographics, New Hampshire has a whole lot more in common with Vermont than it does with New York.

New Hampshire has a lot more in common with New York than it does Nebraska or Wyoming. (I live near the Wyoming line.)

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:16:14pm

re: #16 Jenner7

I believe the NH primary will not be so important to the Democratic nomination process.

Iowa showed that Bernie did not have the insurgent power that Obama had.

So as the weeks go forward, from state to state Hillary will just collect more delegates than Bernie.

The Republican nomination, OTOH, looks like it will provide a bit more fun for at least a few more weeks.

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ObserverArt  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:17:38pm

re: #13 Brian J.

Of course, it’s not all gerrymandering. My state would have to be pretty aggressively gerrymandered for Democrats to win more than one of six districts now; the white-majority areas won’t vote for any Democrat. Putting a socialist on a ticket would be accepting the challenge to win none.

I agree. One of the reason’s I said tight little districts.

Control of those districts comes in a variety of ways…and the Republicans in the House especially are going to be hard to get out of those seats they hold so tightly.

And with that I am just about outta gas…later lizards!

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Jenner7  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:17:50pm

I thought Hillary’s answer about her emails was her best yet. And Bernie was great not to make it an issue, because it really isn’t.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:18:54pm

re: #9 Kragar

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To them I say:

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:19:08pm

re: #20 freetoken

We’ll have to see how Senator Sanders does going into the next primaries after New Hampshire.

That said, my former Libertarian Party wife (she is a Democrat now) wants to be out of the country for the Republican National Convention, as she is concerned that Mr. Trump’s brownshirts might try to take over the convention hall or any one of the Dominionist candidates might inspire wingnut attacks on atheists.

Thus, we will be in Churchill, Manitoba for the month of July.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:20:02pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:20:14pm

re: #19 Anymouse

New Hampshire has a lot more in common with New York than it does Nebraska or Wyoming. (I live near the Wyoming line.)

Depends on what metric we’re using.

Since Bernie hasn’t been polling terribly well with the minority voters in the Democrat primary, that’s the one I was talking about.

Vermont: 95% white
New Hampshire: 94% white
New York: 66% white

(Slight rounding, all numbers from Wikipedia from the 2010 census.)

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Jenner7  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:20:42pm
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makeitstop  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:21:49pm

re: #22 Jenner7

I thought Hillary’s answer about her emails was her best yet. And Bernie was great not to make it an issue, because it really isn’t.

Could you paraphrase? I was out and missed the whole thing.

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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:22:40pm

re: #9 Kragar

Updinged because of the use of Kristyn Ritter based gif

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:23:09pm
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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:23:09pm

re: #26 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Depends on what metric we’re using.

Since Bernie hasn’t been polling terribly well with the minority voters in the Democrat primary, that’s the one I was talking about.

Vermont: 95% white
New Hampshire: 94% white
New York: 66% white

(Slight rounding, all numbers from Wikipedia from the 2010 census.)

Well, we’re closer to New York than New Hampshire then. That said, if you took Omaha out of the demographics you could probably count the minorities on your fingers and toes.

Edit: However, no way no how does this state weigh in as liberal.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:24:06pm

re: #31 Anymouse

Well, we’re closer to New York than New Hampshire then. That said, if you took Omaha out of the demographics you could probably count the minorities on your fingers and toes.

Nebraska is 86% white. Still closer to NH than NY. :)

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Tigger2  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:24:07pm

LOL

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Sophist: Domo Arigato, Marco Ruboto  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:24:27pm

re: #9 Kragar

An embryo is a child in early development or it wouldn’t be a child at birth.

The ingredients for a cake must be a cake, or else they wouldn’t be a cake when they came out of the oven.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:25:01pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

‘Alright, who opened the clams’.

The last thing said in most kitchens before someone gets dragged out into the alley…

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:25:11pm

re: #20 freetoken

I believe the NH primary will not be so important to the Democratic nomination process.

Iowa showed that Bernie did not have the insurgent power that Obama had.

So as the weeks go forward, from state to state Hillary will just collect more delegates than Bernie.

The Republican nomination, OTOH, looks like it will provide a bit more fun for at least a few more weeks.

And the Bernie folks are now saying that the Ben Jealous endorsement (which is good to have) is going to set fire to and burn down the Hillary firewall in South Carolina. The fact that Hillary just got support from 170 African American women leaders who are going to canvas for her doesn’t seem, in their minds, to be equal.
nbcnews.com

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:25:33pm

re: #32 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nebraska is 86% white. Still closer to NH than NY. :)

How about if we split the difference? (I think that would be somewhere around Indiana. On the other hand, you can keep Indiana.)

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Jenner7  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:25:48pm

re: #28 makeitstop

She brought up the classified system and how idiotic it was and the news of Colin Powell and Rice’s aides having “classified information” in their private emails. She noted that these emails were retroactively being made classified and that she never sent out classified information and she is confident nothing will come of this issue.

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jaunte  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:25:50pm

re: #33 Tigger2

Actions: Attempt to incite violence, dissemination of false information for provocation.

That pretty well covers all of them.

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:25:54pm
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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:26:03pm

Honest question… If Clinton had decided not to run, who would have been in this race? And, relatedly, if she were to lose, who runs in four years? I’m assuming those lists would have a lot of cross over

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:26:44pm

re: #15 Anymouse

New Hampshire is practically next door to New York for Mrs. Clinton too (well, about a hundred miles away).

New Hampshire has something in common with parts of upstate NY, but not where most of the people live.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:27:02pm

re: #37 Anymouse

How about if we split the difference? (I think that would be somewhere around Indiana. On the other hand, you can keep Indiana.)

I have no desire for an Indiana. Too flat.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:27:48pm

re: #41 KGxvi

Honest question… If Clinton had decided not to run, who would have been in this race? And, relatedly, if she were to lose, who runs in four years? I’m assuming those lists would have a lot of cross over

Possibly Vice-President Biden, though due to the loss of his son he might still have opted out. Senator Sanders might still be in it, as Governor Martin O’Malley. Might have seen a few other people join in or at least consider it (but there wouldn’t be a clown car like the GOP is running).

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:27:49pm
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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:28:17pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:29:14pm

re: #43 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have no desire for an Indiana. Too flat.

I am originally from Michigan, though I live in the Nebraska Panhandle now. Lower Michigan is quite flat too. (Looks like Indiana with more trees.) Western Nebraska is definitely not flat (but has fewer trees than Indiana).

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:29:32pm

re: #41 KGxvi

See, this gets to my belief that the DNC has not done a good job with developing a deep bench, so to speak.

I get the feeling that the DNC this year has ended up being too much like the Republicans, where the nominee is the last contest’s runner-up.

Name recognition is really important - see Trump.

Clinton is one of the few Dems that has very high name recognition.

Many of the so-called rising stars of the Democrats have very little name recognition outside their little corner of this big country.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:29:42pm

re: #27 Jenner7

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Every Democratic commercial that runs from now to November should include that clip (or a facsimile thereof) as its tagline.

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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:31:11pm

re: #44 Anymouse

I wouldn’t expect a clown car. I’m just wondering because this seems like the smallest field for either party in an open election (with the exception of the Dems in 2000). I’m wondering if it’s just a weird thing where there’s a generational shift among Dems where too many governors and senators are either too old or too inexperienced

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:31:35pm

re: #48 freetoken

See, this gets to my belief that the DNC has not done a good job with developing a deep bench, so to speak.

I get the feeling that the DNC this year has ended up being too much like the Republicans, where the nominee is the last contest’s runner-up.

Name recognition is really important - see Trump.

Clinton is one of the few Dems that has very high name recognition.

Many of the so-called rising stars of the Democrats have very little name recognition outside their little corner of this big country.

The DNC needs to do some serious work on the brand and then worry about candidates.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:32:17pm

re: #48 freetoken

See, this gets to my belief that the DNC has not done a good job with developing a deep bench, so to speak.

I get the feeling that the DNC this year has ended up being too much like the Republicans, where the nominee is the last contest’s runner-up.

Name recognition is really important - see Trump.

Clinton is one of the few Dems that has very high name recognition.

Many of the so-called rising stars of the Democrats have very little name recognition outside their little corner of this big country.

Senator Sanders did bring up Dean’s fifty state strategy.

Here I am the only elected Democrat in any position in my county (a village trustee in a tiny town). The county Democratic Party won’t talk to me (there are two guys, 68 and 67 years old, one dying of cancer). The state party has never heard of me.

Reminds me of the song “I’m Blue” … in a sea of red out here.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:32:42pm

re: #22 Jenner7

I thought Hillary’s answer about her emails was her best yet. And Bernie was great not to make it an issue, because it really isn’t.

And I thought her finest little moment was when Rachel asked her if she’d like to respond to that stupid question about the Bernie endorsement ads and the Las Vegas crap, and Hillary just smiled, said NOPE, and refused to take the bait.

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:33:04pm

re: #41 KGxvi

Honest question… If Clinton had decided not to run, who would have been in this race? And, relatedly, if she were to lose, who runs in four years? I’m assuming those lists would have a lot of cross over

Kirsten Gillibrand
Julian Castro

are the first two names that pop into my head.

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:33:08pm

Oh Dog, next debate expect a lot of tweets with just the candidates @ address in them.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:34:30pm

OT

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:35:37pm

re: #25 De Kolta Chair

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:36:31pm

re: #52 Anymouse

Senator Sanders did bring up Dean’s fifty state strategy.

Here I am the only elected Democrat in any position in my county (village trustee of a tiny town). The county Democratic Party won’t talk to me (there are two guys, 68 and 67 years old, one dying of cancer). The state party has never heard of me.

Reminds me of the song “I’m Blue” … in a sea of red out here.

The party is too busy being mousy. We need firebrand who aren’t afraid to point out the GOP is just nuts and that there are good reasons to vote Democratic. We need people who will clench their fists, not cower in fear.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:37:35pm

re: #56 De Kolta Chair

Just how juicy is that? Hope that smeghead disappears from the intertubes for that revelation along with his blowup doll.

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:39:10pm
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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:39:50pm

re: #58 Schroedinger’s Dog

The party is too busy being mousy. We need firebrand who aren’t afraid to point out the GOP is just nuts and that there are good reasons to vote Democratic. We need people who will clench their fists, not cower in fear.

I am not much of a firebrand, alas. I also don’t think I would be a good candidate for a wider race (such as against my US Representative Adrian Smith-NE3). I might take a shot at the county board of supervisors in the next election, though I have a built-in advantage in my village—the minority of liberals in the village all voted for me in the last election, thus I retained my seat on the village board. (I beat the gun shop owner by four votes.)

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:40:00pm

re: #51 Schroedinger’s Dog

The DNC needs to do some serious work on the brand and then worry about candidates.

Well, in this case, won’t the “brand” be built on popular figures?

Obama has brought a surety to the Democratic party, but a bit of stability at the top doesn’t mean that at the local level more supporters show up.

Where I live, the local politics is carefully managed to divy up the districts, so that I simultaneously live in a district designed for Republicans in one chamber of the legislature, and one district designed for Democrats in the other chamber.

Weird, but true. It’s an anomaly of how bicameral California system works.

When living in a society with such a tightly engineered political system, I just look at Bernie’s assertion that he can change the political system with quite a bit of skepticism.

Even here in California, it is not clear to me who can pick up the Democratic reins once our current governor leaves stage left.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:40:34pm

re: #59 Eric The Fruit Bat

Republicans are angry that people have too many rights. Democrats are angry that people don’t have enough.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:41:27pm

re: #60 ausador

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The Patriots Artistic Militia will now express our dissatisfaction with the BLM through interpretive dance.

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:43:16pm

Hey Anymouse, I’m curious about cannabis and law enforcement in the Nebraska panhandle. Nebraska and Oklahoma brought a lawsuit to the Supreme Court against Colorado because we have legal grass. Law enforcement folks are saying that their resources are strained and there’s just too many weed busts with almost all the product coming from Colorado. Thoughts?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:43:31pm

This stat is so useless it should have an asterisk after it.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:43:36pm

re: #54 Belafon

Kirsten Gillibrand
Julian Castro

are the first two names that pop into my head.

I think Elizabeth Warren might have reconsidered as well. And possibly, Tim Kaine or Corey Booker.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:43:48pm

re: #60 ausador

What is this “militia” meetup on Feb. 6? I don’t have a Twitter or Facebook account so I cannot follow the derp going on there.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:43:54pm

re: #63 GlutenFreeJesus

You responding to the right post, dude?

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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:44:12pm

re: #62 freetoken

Well, in this case, won’t the “brand” be built on popular figures?

Obama has brought a surety to the Democratic party, but a bit of stability at the top doesn’t mean that at the local level more supporters show up.

Where I live, the local politics is carefully managed to divy up the districts, so that I simultaneously live in a district designed for Republicans in one chamber of the legislature, and one district designed for Democrats in the other chamber.

Weird, but true. It’s an anomaly of how bicameral California system works.

When living in a society with such a tightly engineered political system, I just look at Bernie’s assertion that he can change the political system with quite a bit of skepticism.

Even here in California, it is not clear to me who can pick up the Democratic reins once our current governor leaves stage left.

With Harris running for the Senate, it looks like Newsom will be the favorite for governor. Unless one of the Sanchez sisters gets involved or possibly Villarigosa? Though I’m not sure any of them will make good statewide candidates

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jaunte  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:44:28pm
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mr.fusion  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:46:01pm

re: #66 De Kolta Chair

This stat is so useless it should have an asterisk after it.

[Embedded content]

He came in 1247th behind 1246 porn terms and Nebraska asking “what is dabbing?”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:46:09pm

re: #69 Eric The Fruit Bat

You responding to the right post, dude?

Lol meant 58. Oops!

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Tigger2  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:46:36pm

re: #66 De Kolta Chair

This stat is so useless it should have an asterisk after it.

[Embedded content]

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:46:43pm

re: #62 freetoken

Well, in this case, won’t the “brand” be built on popular figures?

Obama has brought a surety to the Democratic party, but a bit of stability at the top doesn’t mean that at the local level more supporters show up.

Where I live, the local politics is carefully managed to divy up the districts, so that I simultaneously live in a district designed for Republicans in one chamber of the legislature, and one district designed for Democrats in the other chamber.

Weird, but true. It’s an anomaly of how bicameral California system works.

When living in a society with such a tightly engineered political system, I just look at Bernie’s assertion that he can change the political system with quite a bit of skepticism.

Even here in California, it is not clear to me who can pick up the Democratic reins once our current governor leaves stage left.

The problem is you can’t attract people to a cause when the cause won’t stand up for itself. The GOP has somehow managed to become the worlds biggest bully with the most delicate fee fees ever. The Democrats have got to stop worrying about hurting anyone’s feelings and start getting aggressive about calling it what it is. Whining.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:47:32pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

Hey Anymouse, I’m curious about cannabis and law enforcement in the Nebraska panhandle. Nebraska and Oklahoma brought a lawsuit to the Supreme Court against Colorado because we have legal grass. Law enforcement folks are saying that their resources are strained and there’s just too many weed busts with almost all the product coming from Colorado. Thoughts?

The last I heard, Nebraska was still pursuing the case (and finding reasons to pull over cars on I-76 and various state highways along the state line). Oklahoma’s state attorney noted to Governor Mary Fallin that if Oklahoma was successful with this case then Colorado could make the same claim over Oklahoma’s permissive gun laws and thought the state should pull out. (Mary Fallin nixed that.)

Funny how these red states are all about “states’ rights” right up until they aren’t.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:48:14pm

re: #56 De Kolta Chair

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:48:25pm

re: #72 mr.fusion

He came in 1247th behind 1246 porn terms and Nebraska asking “what is dabbing?”

What is dabbing (asking from Nebraska)

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mr.fusion  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:48:48pm

re: #78 Anymouse

What is dabbing (asking from Nebraska)

google it

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:49:05pm

re: #75 Schroedinger’s Dog

The problem is you can’t attract people to a cause when the cause won’t stand up for itself.

Well, what is the “cause”?

For a long time I’ve accepted the belief that a “Democrat” is anyone who is “not a Republican”.

That is, there is no uniform ideology that defines a “Democratic party” member. The Democratic party is a functionary of our society, a way of providing names to fill in spaces on ballots.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:51:16pm

re: #79 mr.fusion

google it

Okay … I am about eighty miles too far north to have understood “dabbing.” Sounds fun though.

I guess I added to the Nebraska hits for “dabbing.” Too bad we can’t do that here… .

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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:51:58pm

re: #80 freetoken

Well, what is the “cause”?

For a long time I’ve accepted the belief that a “Democrat” is anyone who is “not a Republican”.

That is, there is no uniform ideology that defines a “Democratic party” member. The Democratic party is a functionary of our society, a way of providing names to fill in spaces on ballots.

Being “not the other guy” is a really tough way to win an election.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:53:00pm

re: #62 freetoken

Well, in this case, won’t the “brand” be built on popular figures?

Obama has brought a surety to the Democratic party, but a bit of stability at the top doesn’t mean that at the local level more supporters show up.

Where I live, the local politics is carefully managed to divy up the districts, so that I simultaneously live in a district designed for Republicans in one chamber of the legislature, and one district designed for Democrats in the other chamber.

Weird, but true. It’s an anomaly of how bicameral California system works.

When living in a society with such a tightly engineered political system, I just look at Bernie’s assertion that he can change the political system with quite a bit of skepticism.

Even here in California, it is not clear to me who can pick up the Democratic reins once our current governor leaves stage left.

Living in a really red county in a really red state, it’s always a challenge. We’re trying to grow the county party with a lot of outreach—booths at any and all events, members joining civic clubs to spread the word, setting up sub-groups/caucuses for special interests, and, because we get a lot of new move-in retirees, reaching out to them.

Then, we’re trying to encourage and help people who want to run for office—city, county, local school boards, etc. We worked our asses off to get a Dem on County Council in a special election last month (and that was to retain the sole Dem seat—previous council member took a job with the County and had to give up his seat.) We won, but just for that one seat it was a major effort.

It sure isn’t easy, and that’s why I think Bernie’s fantasy that if he wins, it will be a giant wave election that will sweep Democrats into office across the country is hugely naive.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:53:39pm

re: #80 freetoken

Well, what is the “cause”?

For a long time I’ve accepted the belief that a “Democrat” is anyone who is “not a Republican”.

That is, there is no uniform ideology that defines a “Democratic party” member. The Democratic party is a functionary of our society, a way of providing names to fill in spaces on ballots.

I’d like to think the Democratic Party stands for Government that works for the people that pay the taxes to support it, regardless of the proportion of the total taxes they pay. It stands for thoughtful decision making, based in evidence and logic. It stands for giving everyone a chance who is willing to work for it..

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:53:49pm

re: #76 Anymouse

Funny how these red states are all about “states’ rights” right up until they aren’t.

I won’t soon forget all those anti-government loons out on the plains trying to secede from Colorado and put it up to a vote. Every county said no, but a few thousand people showed up and said yes. They wanted to make a new state called North Colorado with Greeley as the capitol.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:55:36pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

I won’t soon forget all those anti-government loons out on the plains trying to secede from Colorado and put it up to a vote. Every county said no, but a few thousand people showed up and said yes. They wanted to make a new state called North Colorado with Greeley as the capitol.

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Weld County’s sheriff is a wingnut. He is way crazier than anyone in this state.

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:57:34pm

re: #81 Anymouse

Okay … I am about eighty miles too far north to have understood “dabbing.” Sounds fun though.

I guess I added to the Nebraska hits for “dabbing.” Too bad we can’t do that here… .

Dabbing is like mainlining THC to your brain. For someone who may smoke a little weed here and there, one dab can knock you on your ass.

All these THC oil explosions happening in houses you may have read about, that’s folks trying to make the THC concentrate using mass amounts of butane fuel. There was an explosion this summer just a few houses down from a couple of ski patrol friends of mine.

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:59:20pm

re: #86 Anymouse

Weld County’s sheriff is a wingnut. He is way crazier than anyone in this state.

Ken Buck is a Weld County man, and he’s wingnut extraordinaire. What’s scary is he has some pull with politics in Colorado, as do all those religious fanatics in Colorado Springs. The politics here are so bipolar!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:59:24pm

re: #80 freetoken

Well, what is the “cause”?

For a long time I’ve accepted the belief that a “Democrat” is anyone who is “not a Republican”.

That is, there is no uniform ideology that defines a “Democratic party” member. The Democratic party is a functionary of our society, a way of providing names to fill in spaces on ballots.

Maybe it’s just me, but that seems to be almost the opposite of true.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 8:59:30pm

re: #87 teleskiguy

Dabbing is like mainlining THC to your brain. For someone who may smoke a little weed here and there, one dab can knock you on your ass.

All these THC oil explosions happening in houses you may have read about, that’s folks trying to make the THC concentrate using mass amounts of butane fuel. There was an explosion this summer just a few houses down from a couple of ski patrol friends of mine.

Well, exploding houses aren’t much fun.

Huffington Post is reporting on the debate as if it was some battle of titans using clubs fifty feet long in its splash headline. Ugh. They must have watched a different debate than I did; it seemed quite civil to me.

Edit: They are haranguing on the “definition of Progressive” question.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:01:29pm

re: #33 Tigger2

LOL

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Jenner7  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:01:51pm

They had a town hall with Trump tonight??

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:03:49pm

re: #80 freetoken

Well, what is the “cause”?

For a long time I’ve accepted the belief that a “Democrat” is anyone who is “not a Republican”.

That is, there is no uniform ideology that defines a “Democratic party” member. The Democratic party is a functionary of our society, a way of providing names to fill in spaces on ballots.

I think the two party platforms pretty well define the difference between the parties.
compare2012.returncontrol.com

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:03:50pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

Ken Buck is a Weld County man, and he’s wingnut extraordinaire. What’s scary is he has some pull with politics in Colorado, as do all those religious fanatics in Colorado Springs. The politics here are so bipolar!

Colorado Springs: My wife used to live there (when she was a software engineer for Digital Equipment).

Y’all are saddled with such wonderful characters as Gordon Klingenschmitt and Focus on the Family. I feel for you.

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:04:40pm

re: #92 Jenner7

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They had a town hall with Trump tonight??

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:06:29pm

Think the PPN is trying to pull something, everyone is still spreading that “all call” to assemble Saturday, not the retraction issued later.

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:08:08pm

re: #94 Anymouse

Colorado Springs: My wife used to live there (when she was a software engineer for Digital Equipment).

Y’all are saddled with such wonderful characters as Gordon Klingenschmitt and Focus on the Family. I feel for you.

Good to have you around, Anymouse. We’re neighbors in real ways. Heh!

I don’t know if you read this Newsweek article from a while back. Breaks down Colorado politics well.

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:11:21pm
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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:11:54pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Good to have you around, Anymouse. We’re neighbors in real ways. Heh!

I don’t know if you read this Newsweek article from a while back. Breaks down Colorado politics well.

We were in Colorado Springs a couple months ago. (My wife wanted to visit her friend there … his father was once mayor of Colorado Springs.)

A nice thing just happened: The woman who lives across the street from me just brought her six-year-old granddaughter to my door. The granddaughter found the keys to my Smart car in the snow in front of my house. (I was not aware they were missing, and my car is buried from the blizzard.) I thanked her (and gave her a Kit Kat bar.)

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:12:28pm

Just saw a commercial for some flim-flammery called California Psychics. “Only $1 a minute!” Small print: “First call only. Additional calls will cost $4 to $13 a minute.”

I’m in the wrong business. (If you must know, I’m a professional kidnapper and extortionist).

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:13:35pm

re: #100 De Kolta Chair

Just saw a commercial for some flim-flammery called California Psychics. “Only $1 a minute!” Small print: “First call only. Additional calls will cost $4 to $13 a minute.”

I’m in the wrong business.

But if you get Sarah Palin as your psychic, the price goes up to $150… .

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:14:14pm

re: #99 Anymouse

We were in Colorado Springs a couple months ago. (My wife wanted to visit her friend there … his father was once mayor of Colorado Springs.)

A nice thing just happened: The woman who lives across the street from me just brought her six-year-old granddaughter to my door. The granddaughter found the keys to my Smart car in the snow in front of my house. (I was not aware they were missing, and my car is buried from the blizzard.) I thanked her (and gave her a Kit Kat bar.)

Aww! That’s some endearing shit, for sure!

I’m reminded of a Bill Hicks quip, “Children are smarter than anyone, man! I mean, I don’t know any children that has a full time job or children.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:16:40pm

Meanwhile, back up at the ranch…

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:18:28pm

re: #100 De Kolta Chair

Just saw a commercial for some flim-flammery called California Psychics. “Only $1 a minute!” Small print: “First call only. Additional calls will cost $4 to $13 a minute.”

I’m in the wrong business.

Back in the day in Steamboat it took me a little over an hour to make $13 and I was busting my ass on a hot restaurant kitchen line cooking food for a hundred people.

The Thamesmen - ‘Gimme Some Money’

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:18:31pm

re: #101 Anymouse

But if you get Sarah Palin as your psychic, the price goes up to $150… .

And after 5 minutes you realize you’re talking to Bristol.

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:19:16pm

re: #105 De Kolta Chair

And after 5 minutes you realize you’re talking to Bristol.

AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaa… … .

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allegro  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:30:02pm

Trump is doing a town hall on CNN with Cooper, on right now. Trump makes outrageous claims and statements and Cooper has yet to even ask a follow up much less confront him. F’rinstance Trump talking about how China is taking our jobs and we’ve made billions of dollars for China. Bad! Not even a hint from Cooper that Trump has been one of those who sent jobs to China to make his brand clothes. Trump sez Pfizer is moving to Ireland, among other big companies leaving the US, then sez he’ll stop that “in 2 seconds.” Wouldn’t the obvious next word out of Cooper’s mouth be “how”?

I only listened to maybe 5 minutes before my disgust made me hit the off button.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:32:18pm

Tomorrow Ted Cruz is releasing a campaign ad stating that the only war against women he’s aware of is the war against S.A.

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Jenner7  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:32:20pm

re: #107 allegro

I find it odd that it’s a town hall just for him.

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:32:40pm

re: #109 Jenner7

I find it odd that it’s a town hall just for him.

The hall could only fit his ego.

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freetoken  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:33:01pm

CNN must be real desperate for ratings.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:34:23pm

re: #109 Jenner7

Maybe it was one of those rapist meetings and Trump didn’t get the cancellation notice.

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allegro  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:35:20pm

re: #109 Jenner7

I find it odd that it’s a town hall just for him.

Is it? I hadn’t heard anything about it, just flipping. And yeah that is odd.

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Jenner7  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:35:44pm

This was the very first question from Anderson Cooper to Hillary in that first CNN debate:

Secretary Clinton, I want to start with you. Plenty of politicians evolve on issues, but even some Democrats believe you change your positions based on political expediency.

You were against same-sex marriage. Now you’re for it. You defended President Obama’s immigration policies. Now you say they’re too harsh. You supported his trade deal dozen of times. You even called it the “gold standard”. Now, suddenly, last week, you’re against it.

Will you say anything to get elected?

But asking Trump how he intends to do things as President?? ::crickets::

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:36:17pm

Never read the comments at Huffington Post. Arguments from Hillary supporters claiming that Sanders supporters are really “shape shifting Republicans,” arguments from Bernie supporters that there is “no difference between Hillary and Trump.”

Gaaa. While I favour Bernie’s positions over Hillary’s (and for a large part their positions are the same, just how they want to achieve them), I think I can tell the difference between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump. And I have no problem voting for Mrs. Clinton should she get the nomination—she is parsecs ahead of any of the folk on the GOP side.

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:39:18pm

Kelly Carlin retweeting a reply of mine makes me feel good!

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:43:51pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

Uh oh. Someone named @HalSparks retweeted this, 105,000 followers. So far, my mentions haven’t blown up.

I got retweeted by Garry Shandling once and I had, uh, a lot of mentions.

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allegro  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:45:20pm

Damn, I was all mellow after a lovely evening til I channel flipped and watched a very few minutes of that revolting…. gaaaah. Why did I do that to myself?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:54:57pm

Night all

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Anymouse  Feb 4, 2016 • 9:56:54pm

I’m off to bed. Too much cheap whiskey and Kool-Aid. (Yeah, that’s a drink around my house.)

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2016 • 10:04:34pm

BTW, I picked up XCOM 2

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 10:07:46pm
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retired cynic  Feb 4, 2016 • 10:09:50pm

re: #122 ausador

Washington Times?

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Kragar  Feb 4, 2016 • 10:10:46pm
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Kragar  Feb 4, 2016 • 10:16:05pm
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WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2016 • 10:16:39pm

re: #94 Anymouse

Colorado Springs: My wife used to live there (when she was a software engineer for Digital Equipment).

Y’all are saddled with such wonderful characters as Gordon Klingenschmitt and Focus on the Family. I feel for you.

FotF freaks me out. How is it legal to require your employees must pray? I worked in CS for a six-week period and as beautiful as it is there, that was a weirdness I couldn’t get over.

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 10:30:23pm

re: #123 retired cynic

Washington Times?

Beats me…Sarah back to her old lying self again though, almost nostalgic.

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ausador  Feb 4, 2016 • 11:10:04pm

Hey JEB! why not just pile all that money up and set fire to it?

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WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2016 • 11:13:31pm

re: #117 teleskiguy

Uh oh. Someone named @HalSparks retweeted this, 105,000 followers. So far, my mentions haven’t blown up.

I got retweeted by Garry Shandling once and I had, uh, a lot of mentions.

Hal Sparks is one of the people on the Stephanie Miller radio show. I used to listen on Sirius. They’re also on AM radio in some markets. Pretty funny show.

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teleskiguy  Feb 4, 2016 • 11:23:20pm

MRA 7 Commandments

1. Men and women are genetically different, both physically and mentally. Sex roles evolved in all mammals. Humans are not exempt.
2. Men will opt out of monogamy and reproduction if there are no incentives to engage in them.
3. Past traditions and rituals that evolved alongside humanity served a net benefit to the family unit.
4. Testosterone is the biological cause for masculinity. Environmental changes that reduce the hormone’s concentration in men will cause them to be weaker and more feminine.
5. A woman’s value significantly depends on her fertility and beauty. A man’s value significantly depends on his resources, intellect, and character.
6. Elimination of traditional sex roles and the promotion of unlimited mating choice in women unleashes their promiscuity and other negative behaviours that block family formation.
7. Socialism, feminism, cultural Marxism, and social justice warriorism aim to destroy the family unit, decrease the fertility rate, and impoverish the state through large welfare entitlements.

Good people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:00:48am

re: #82 KGxvi

Being “not the other guy” is a really tough way to win an election.

Unless the “other guy” is a dangerously reactionary asshole. Then even Hillary can win…

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:11:39am

Tomgram: Ann Jones, Social Democracy for Dummies

Water drips from a leaky roof. The heat brings on a “moldy, rancid odor.” A child volunteer is tasked with killing giant roaches. Welcome to the Detroit public school system, which, according to a recent New York Times report, is “run down after years of neglect” and “teetering on the edge of financial collapse.” And yet, last Thursday, this was the closest thing to a “good news” story about Michigan on the front page of that newspaper. A companion piece covered the even more dismal “water crisis in the poverty-stricken, black-majority city of Flint,” a penny-pinching state “austerity” measure turned public health emergency that has left children there with elevated levels of lead in their blood, putting them at risk of lifelong adverse health effects.

How did it come to this? An America dotted with feral cities left to decay into ruin? Man-made catastrophes spawned by harebrained austerity schemes? A country of crumbling roads, unsafe bridges, failing schools, a woefully neglected mental health system whose ample slack has been taken up by a disastrous criminal justice system? Take your pick when it comes to rotten institutions and rotting infrastructure, since the list goes on and on. Presidential candidates are vowing to “make America great again” or talking about “reigniting” its “promise,” but perhaps a counterfeit, sepia-tinged trip to the beginning of the road that got us here isn’t really the solution to twenty-first-century America’s problems. TomDispatch regular Ann Jones has a different idea. In her latest piece, a joint TomDispatch/Nation article which will appear in print in the new issue of that magazine, Jones takes a welcome detour to a place where welfare isn’t a dirty word, the social safety net isn’t the preferred place for budget cuts, and axe-wielding children are — believe it or not — fostered, not feared: Scandinavia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:21:47am

re: #132 Amory Blaine

Tomgram: Ann Jones, Social Democracy for Dummies

I remember when America went from a place where my unionized steelworker dad enjoyed his 13-week vacation in the 60’s to a capitalist playground in the 80’s where we were taught that you were a failure if you had not made your first million by the time you were 40 and retired at 45…

And so many of us bought into that ridiculous dream, and became convinced that if we all just cut taxes to a bare-bones minimum, we would all become so rich that we wouldn’t need a government.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:40:28am

Went to go visit my dad last week. Really loved his unsubstantiated anecdotes about how shitty the VA is. Especially when the mailman delivered a big box of medicine, free of charge to him of course. “These cost $175 apiece” he tells me as he sucks on a purple disk to help his breathing. “I use 2 of these a month, doesn’t cost me a penny”. I wanted to ask him how it makes him feel that my tax dollars are paying so he can breathe. See, he smoked 3+ packs of cigarettes a day for 40 years, but he’s entitled because veteran. Pointing out the obvious hypocricy he engages in constantly, reduces me to a spittling asshole. So I just keep my mouth shut as his brain is shut. A universal health care discussion derails because, “some people” don’t deserve it. I tell him it’s a moral issue and let it slide again. n***** this, n***** that, spic this spic that, yada yada yada, just pass me the joint old man.

He always had a special bigotry for asian people. Yet my step sister (who lives close to him) recently married a Filipino and had a child. He loves the child but I don’t know how he squares it with himself when every other filipino on the face of the earth is just another slant to him. I keep my fucking mouth shut. Smoke more weed. My new niece, who I couldn’t wait to see for the first time, is being held by her great uncle. A man I never met before. Tall and fit he holds baby in his arm and comes toward me to greet. He extends an arm tattooed “Molon Labe”. I sigh in despair as my eyes look up his arms. They’re all there. “Oath Keepers”, “III%” , the second amendment gracefully tattooed on the inside of his bicep as if a penned from James Madison’s own quill. Yes it was a man I never met before, but before I released from our handshake, I felt like I knew exactly who he was.

And I do know who he is. An EMT that works for a big city that pays him well and will provide for his retirement. But he hates the government too. More hypocricy. I smoke more weed…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:43:06am

re: #134 Amory Blaine

All ideal customers for that notion of the American Dream currently being peddled by the snake-oil sellers.

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William Lewis  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:57:28am

re: #134 Amory Blaine

“is a dream a lie if it don’t come true,
Or is it something worse
That sends me down to the river
Though I know the river is dry? “

The River, B. Springsteen

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 1:01:03am

re: #136 William Lewis

yes, it is worse. There is nothing more detestable than cynically exploiting people’s idealism and better nature for personal gain.

except maybe exploiting a pizza as a place to put pineapple

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 2:39:53am

re: #132 Amory Blaine

I take issue with some of Ms. Jone’s assertions. She is shaping her narrative, obviously, by her own beliefs, but in doing so she is leaving out quite a bit about Scandinavia.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 2:41:01am

Her assertion that it is the nuclear family that holds women back, and that the goal of Norwegian welfare is thus to free women of that institution, I find rather forced.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 2:45:42am

We are moving away from the traditional family in which one breadwinner (usually the male) earns enough to support an entire family.

Unless we develop models to successfully allow both partners to contribute to the family income while still having time for home and family, we are going to depress fertility rates and ultimately destroy the concept of family as we know it.

America is already well advanced in that respect.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 2:47:18am

There’s also a real lack of a global perspective.

Scandinavian countries do what they do because they participate in a world economy that allows them to specialize in a few goods that are exported widely, in turn allowing them to import lots of the good things they get to share.

I find it extremely naive to believe that a Norwegian using an Apple computer made in China isn’t dependent upon relatively low wages in Asia, just like I, the American, does.

Likewise, it’s hard to treat Norway’s contribution to global warming as anything but outsized, given their export of carbon as a key role to their national wealth.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 2:54:57am

Also, Scandinavians are among the most a-religious people in the world. The social influence that religion plays in America is no longer present in any of the Nordic countries.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 3:29:09am

re: #142 freetoken

Also, Scandinavians are among the most a-religious people in the world. The social influence that religion plays in America is no longer present in any of the Nordic countries.

And they are highly racially and culturally homogeneous, there is a lot less of the us-vs-them mentality that makes up a lot of US politics.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 3:39:35am

re: #130 teleskiguy

No wonder MRAs also tend to be politically conservative. Their view of the world hasn’t changed much since caveman days.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 5, 2016 • 3:48:57am

re: #58 Schroedinger’s Dog

The party is too busy being mousy. We need firebrand who aren’t afraid to point out the GOP is just nuts and that there are good reasons to vote Democratic. We need people who will clench their fists, not cower in fear.

I suspect too many of them are not willing to risk their power by drawing attention to themselves.

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Teukka  Feb 5, 2016 • 3:50:20am

OT, but heads up, this is surely going to generate a lot of claims that Obummer administraton got to the poor girl! from the usual suspects:
German teen admits she lied about migrant gang rape

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 3:51:47am

re: #144 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

No wonder MRAs also tend to be politically conservative. Their view of the world hasn’t changed much since caveman days.

iron age

it was not until we started herding animals and cultivating land that the issue of inheritance and paternity became an important issue

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 3:54:23am

re: #146 Teukka

OT, but heads up, this is surely going to generate a lot of claims that Obummer administraton got to the poor girl! from the usual suspects:
German teen admits she lied about migrant gang rape

I remember a case of a woman who was drunk and fell off a tram and tried to claim it was skinheads who pushed her off.

but once a story like this gets into the Intertubes, it gains a life of its own and travels around the whole world

an orbital blowout, so to speak…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 4:26:34am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I remember a case of a woman who was drunk and fell off a tram and tried to claim it was skinheads who pushed her off.

but once a story like this gets into the Intertubes, it gains a life of its own and travels around the whole world

an orbital blowout, so to speak…

Especially if it agrees with stereotypes and prejudices of the viewing audience.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 4:30:21am

re: #149 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Especially if it agrees with stereotypes and prejudices of the viewing audience.

You mean if it corresponds to a Higher Truth…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 4:34:56am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You mean if it corresponds to a Higher Truth…

Indeed, a Higher Truth than no one may question, because it’s unquestionably true.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 4:36:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 4:51:05am

re: #151 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Indeed, a Higher Truth than no one may question, because it’s unquestionably true.

and it will get the person banned from any more interviews…

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2016 • 4:54:51am

re: #152 Dr. Matt

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If she ends up cutting his victory down to single digits, I will laugh my ass off.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 4:56:23am

re: #154 Targetpractice

If she ends up cutting his victory down to single digits, I will laugh my ass off.

And the media will have a meltdown.

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:00:37am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

And the media will have a meltdown.

I certainly know that every Bernie supporter from here to Azerbaijan will. The incoherent screaming will be audible from space.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:01:25am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

And the media will have a meltdown.

They just want a horse race. The more Bernie, the more attention on the media coverage of it.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:05:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:06:16am

re: #158 Dr. Matt

Pro-Rape Meet-Up Canceled After Women’s Boxing Club Threatens to Show Up

Shall we prepare them a “safe room”?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:07:45am

re: #156 Targetpractice

I certainly know that every Bernie supporter from here to Azerbaijan will. The incoherent screaming will be audible from space.

When Bernie closed the gap in Iowa, the media and Bernie supporters were practically gloating that Hillary’s campaign is on the verge of defeat.

Now that Hillary is closing in the gap in NH, we can almost certainly guarantee that the media and Bernie supporters will claim Hillary is cheating.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:12:06am

re: #160 Dr. Matt

When Bernie closed the gap in Iowa, the media and Bernie supporters were practically gloating that Hillary’s campaign is on the verge of defeat.

Now that Hillary is closing in the gap in NH, we can almost certainly guarantee that the media and Bernie supporters will claim Hillary is cheating.

horse race

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:21:05am

re: #142 freetoken

Yes they have problems, we have problems too. Doesn’t mean we can’t have family leave, sick leave, universal health care etc. Canada has 35m, Germany 80m, France 60m, etc. They manage ways of maintaining these basic levels for their populations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:23:52am

re: #162 Amory Blaine

Yes they have problems, we have problems too. Doesn’t mean we can’t have family leave, sick leave, universal health care etc. Canada has 35m, Germany 80m, France 60m, etc. They manage ways of maintaining these basic levels for their populations.

But then we would no longer be exceptional!

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:26:36am

re: #162 Amory Blaine

Study: No sick leave for nearly half of Arizona workers

Close to half of Arizona’s private-sector workers, more than 934,000 people, do not have access to paid sick leave, according to a report Wednesday by a group pushing for such laws.

But the National Partnership for Women and Families said Arizona is not alone: More than 43 million people, accounting for about 39 percent of private-sector workers in the country, currently don’t have the ability to earn paid sick leave, it said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:28:58am

re: #164 Amory Blaine


Study: No sick leave for nearly half of Arizona workers

Arizona is a Right to Work state, which makes it also a Right to Starve to Death if You Get Sick state.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:34:09am

I was looking for Wisconsin because I know it’s around half as well. But couldn’t locate the data. Milwaukee tried by referendum to enact sick leave for workers but the state pounced and banned these types of referendum, retroactively even.

Wisconsin Governor Signs Bill Nullifying Milwaukee Paid Sick Leave Ordinance

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signed legislation on May 5, 2011, that creates uniformity in Wisconsin with respect to family and medical leave standards. The effect of the new law will be to nullify Milwaukee’s controversial paid sick leave ordinance and bar other municipalities from enacting family and medical leave rules that differ from state standards.

“Patchwork government mandates stifle job creation and economic opportunity,” Walker, a Republican, said in a statement. “This law gives employers the flexibility they need to put people back to work, and that makes Wisconsin a more attractive place to do business.”

Under current law, Wisconsin employers with at least 50 employees must accommodate leave requests for various family and medical reasons. Qualified full-time workers are entitled to take up to six weeks of family leave and two weeks of medical leave during a 12-month period.

The measure ensures that no community can enact a more restrictive workplace standard. The new law pre-empts cities, villages and counties from enacting ordinances that would require employers to implement leave policies that deviate from the statewide standard. The new law also voids any ordinance that conflicts with the statewide standard.

The new law was enacted less than two months after the Wisconsin Court of Appeals issued a decision upholding the Milwaukee ordinance, which would have required large employers to provide up to nine paid sick days per year to workers. The ordinance, which was supported by 69 percent of Milwaukee voters during a 2008 public referendum, was challenged by business groups on several grounds, but the appeals panel unanimously determined that the ordinance violated no state or federal laws.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:36:13am

Teacher in-service today. Can’t have our computers out, so will be following along today on the phone. Keep me sane Lizards…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:36:23am

re: #166 Amory Blaine

I was looking for Wisconsin because I know it’s around half as well. But couldn’t locate the data. Milwaukee tried by referendum to enact sick leave for workers but the state pounced and banned these types of referendum, retroactively even.

Wisconsin Governor Signs Bill Nullifying Milwaukee Paid Sick Leave Ordinance

Only slackers get sick…

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:41:37am

Can’t wait to watch how the GOP will spin this:

That’s 4.9% unemployment, and another 150,000 jobs created in January, which is usually a slow month, particularly as retailers shed seasonal jobs.

What’s good news for the rest of us is bad news for the GOP, who keeps pushing nonsensical economic jibber jabber.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:45:05am

The crane collapse was at Worth and Church Street, which is about 1/4 mile north of the WTC. Reports that there’s a person trapped in a car.

It could be weather related given that there’s gusty winds and heavy wet snow.

Here’s a live feed - looks like a tower crane came down. The crane came down on a whole string of cars parked on the street. What a mess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:47:50am

re: #169 lawhawk

Can’t wait to watch how the GOP will spin this:

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That’s 4.9% unemployment, and another 150,000 jobs created in January, which is usually a slow month, particularly as retailers shed seasonal jobs.

What’s good news for the rest of us is bad news for the GOP, who keeps pushing nonsensical economic jibber jabber.

Just as they did with the jobs report that came out in October of 2012: those numbers are fudged and hide the true unemployment.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:48:56am

Lazer focus on jobs!! Don’t get fucking sick!! The dominant republicans are taking a break from abusing teachers for five minutes to pass legislation that is really important.

Scott Walker signs bill allowing fluorescent pink for hunters

Gov. Scott Walker signed bills Thursday allowing hunters to wear fluorescent pink instead of blaze orange, shorten amount of time people have to recover damages from vehicle crashes and set new a new policy for returning firearms to people whose weapons were seized but weren’t convicted.

Backers of the hunting measure, Assembly Bill 291, say it gives hunters more options at a time when interest in the sport is declining.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:51:18am

re: #172 Amory Blaine

I really thought Scott Walker was going to be a major star in the GOP firmament this campaign season, but he went nowhere.

I also thought the same of Rick Perry in 2008.

I am not very good at picking a wiener.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:51:55am

re: #172 Amory Blaine

Wait, so interest in sport hunting is declining in WI, but we all need still more guns? Really. That’s kind of difficult to reconcile. As is fact that allowing different color bright clothes will somehow spur economic growth.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:52:32am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Don’t feel bad. A couple months back I said that Rubio was irrelevant.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 5:59:00am

re: #174 lawhawk

Wait, so interest in sport hunting is declining in WI, but we all need still more guns? Really. That’s kind of difficult to reconcile. As is fact that allowing different color bright clothes will somehow spur economic growth.

Interest will pick up when more people need alternate sources of food…

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Amory Blaine  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:02:47am
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CleverToad  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:03:40am

re: #174 lawhawk

Wait, so interest in sport hunting is declining in WI, but we all need still more guns? Really. That’s kind of difficult to reconcile. As is fact that allowing different color bright clothes will somehow spur economic growth.

It will encourage the girls to go hunting, y’know. They can coordinate their camo outfits to match their black-and-pink guns.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:06:11am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But then we would no longer be exceptional carrying NATO.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:09:31am

Looks like it was one of the large crawler lattice boom cranes (which has a boom lattice similar to tower cranes, so that explains my initial thought it was a tower crane collapse). It also appears that the crane somehow flipped over backwards (there’s photos showing the cab and crawler section flipped up on its back).

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:10:00am
Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are more progressive than almost anyone who’s ever run for POTUS. This is a small and distracting debate

— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) February 4, 2016

(Since I’m not allowed to use twitter at work, I’m copying the text and link of this tweet from Balloon Juice.)

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Decatur Deb  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:10:26am

“In both Norway and Sweden, whose economies are literally dwarfed by the size of our affluence and the extent of our technology, they have no unemployment and no slums. There, men, women and children have long enjoyed free medical care and quality education. This contrast to the limited, halting steps taken by our rich nation deeply troubled me.”
-Dec 17, 1964-

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:12:50am

re: #180 lawhawk

Yikes! That must have been scary watching that thing topple into the street.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:13:00am

re: #181 Belafon

The distinctions between Bernie and Hillary are slight when compared to the gulf between them and the GOP candidates, each of whom is more extreme than the next. The radical right wing is intent to slash and burn the safety net and shift tax burdens from the rich on to everyone else.

So, electing a Democrat to the White House might reduce the impact of the GOP’s plans, but retaking the House or Senate would be an even more important step. That’s got to be part of the plan for November.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:13:46am

re: #172 Amory Blaine

Lazer focus on jobs!! Don’t get fucking sick!! The dominant republicans are taking a break from abusing teachers for five minutes to pass legislation that is really important.

Scott Walker signs bill allowing fluorescent pink for hunters

Distract the rubes. While they’re out hunting in their new bright pink outfits, you go in and rob their house give more to the rich so everyone else has to scrape by with less.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:18:03am

re: #169 lawhawk

Can’t wait to watch how the GOP will spin this:

“Low unemployment is bad for the economy. Fewer people will be looking for work, which means companies will have to lay people off.”

Nope, it doesn’t have to make sense. Kind of like low gas prices.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:24:25am

GUN FUCKER IN MY MENTIONS

Automatic Block Function triggered==>

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:28:25am

re: #180 lawhawk

Judging by the flags in the second picture, the operator probably boomed up too high, and with so much stick in the air, the wind took it and the crane flipped over backwards.

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makeitstop  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:30:14am

Good morning from snowy Long Island! At least one family member seems to be enjoying it…

This is awesome.

Me? I gotta load that lunkhead and my wife into the truck and drive to Philly for a family get-together. Should be fun.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:34:17am

re: #188 Kent Dorfman

Getting caught in the wind is the most likely scenario. Alternatively, they could have been moving the crane and it somehow tipped off the timbers used to protect the street, and it toppled backwards. Or a combination of the two. The DOB, along with OSHA, will look at the whole setup.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:38:22am

New popularity polls out today - many of them.

In NH, Rubio is surging. Surging - that’s the verb of the week.

Meanwhile, nationally, the first post-Iowa polls are showing Trump support weakening, Rubio surging, and Cruz sort of improving.

PPP’s newest national poll finds the race on the Republican side tightening considerably in the wake of Donald Trump’s surprise loss in Iowa on Monday night. Trump’s lead has fallen to just 4 points- he’s at 25% to 21% each for Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, 11% for Ben Carson, 5% each for Jeb Bush, John Kasich, and the now departed Rand Paul, 3% each for Chris Christie and Carly Fiorina, and 1% for Jim Gilmore. Rick Santorum had literally zero supporters on our final poll including him.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:38:46am

The unemployment rate is at 4.9%, yet according to Rubio, Trump, et al., America is a terrible place thanks to Obama.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:39:51am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

The unemployment rate is at 4.9%, yet according to Rubio, Trump, et al., America is a terrible place thanks to Obama.

Yeah, thanks, Obama, for turning America into the sort of place where 4.9% unemployment is a bad thing!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:43:39am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Yeah, thanks, Obama, for turning America into the sort of place where 4.9% unemployment is a bad thing!!!

HURR HURR IT TERRIBLE FOR TEH BUSINESS OWNERS WHO CAN’T FIND WORKERS SO DESPERATE THEY’LL TAKE TEH LOWEST PAY1!!11!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:46:23am

re: #194 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR IT TERRIBLE FOR TEH BUSINESS OWNERS WHO CAN’T FIND WORKERS SO DESPERATE THEY’LL TAKE TEH LOWEST PAY1!!11!!!

Bad enough that gas prices are so low they don”t have to spend so much getting to their minimum-wage jobs at odd hours when no public transportation is running…

/

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:46:45am

Speaking of Norway:

Norway goes to Brussels to dump its dirty fossil assets on Europe

“What was clear from today’s event is that the Norwegian government is but an arm of the oil and gas industry. As if it wasn’t clear enough from the agenda, a large portion of the audience, including political leaders, only appeared interested in the gas portion” says Bellona Advisor Marika Andersen.

[…]

In a rapidly changing energy market with plummeting oil and gas prices, one message was clear from both sides: The EU depends on Norway for its gas supply as Norway depends on the EU for its gas demand.

Nearly all the gas produced in Norway is sold to Europe and Norway delivers about 25 % of the EU’s gas needs. Commissioner Arias Cañete underlined, Norway is the friendliest of the EU’s friends with gas.

[…]

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:48:43am
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:52:01am

re: #197 lawhawk

I’m assuming there’s an accompanying tweet I can’t see. What’s he announcing?

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:56:39am

re: #198 Belafon

He said that he requested financial assistance for small businesses -

michigan.gov

Gov. Rick Snyder today requested an Economic Disaster Declaration for Genesee County and the City of Flint, from the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA). A disaster declaration from SBA would pave the way for financial assistance for Flint residents and business owners impacted by lead-contaminated water in the City of Flint.

That doesn’t help individuals whose homes are screwed because of the corrosive water that coursed through the pipes for months. And all of this was inflicted on Flint by the GOP installed emergency manager.

It’s all on the GOP here - every last bit. Calling for the SBA to extend loans is akin to offering a band aid when the injury is a severed limb.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:57:35am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 6:58:10am

BABY SNIDELY WHIPLASH IS A HORRIBLE GARBAGE HUMAN BEING==>

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:07:34am

Another verb-of-the-week - raging:

In fight between Clinton and Sanders, a raging battle over Democrats’ future

Outside of some online-warriors, on twitter especially, I’ve not come across Americans, Democrats, raging over the political party.

Indeed, I gather the opposite - that the majority are apathetic to anything regarding the future of the political party.

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KGxvi  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:08:12am

re: #192 Dr. Matt

The unemployment rate is at 4.9%, yet according to Rubio, Trump, et al., America is a terrible place thanks to Obama.

It’s actually rather amazing that the economy is as sound as it is. The three leading composites (NASDAQ, the Dow, and the S&P) have all more than doubled during the Obama administration, wage growth is back in the 5% range after being negative in late 2008 through 2010. There are still troubling aspects - I think there’s too much consolidation in certain industries (like banking) - but considering where we were when Bush left office, damn.

If you want to have fun with wingnuts point out these facts:

When Clinton took office the stock market was at 3223/633/408 (Dow/Nasdaq/S&P), when Bush took office it was 10495/2151/1239 (so during the Clinton administration the markets tripled), when Obama took office it was 7062/1377/735 (that’s a 30-40% loss during Bush’s presidency, start to finish), today they’re at 16466/4454/1940 (which means the Nasdaq and S&P have tripled while the Dow has doubled).

It almost makes you wonder why Wall Street sides with Republicans anymore.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:08:51am

re: #202 freetoken

Another verb-of-the-week - raging:

In fight between Clinton and Sanders, a raging battle over Democrats’ future

Outside of some online-warriors, on twitter especially, I’ve not come across Americans, Democrats, raging over the political party.

Indeed, I gather the opposite - that the majority are apathetic to anything regarding the future of the political party.

Yeah, but your title doesn’t show conflict, and how’s that going to sell news/confuse people?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:09:09am

re: #202 freetoken

Another verb-of-the-week - raging:

In fight between Clinton and Sanders, a raging battle over Democrats’ future

Outside of some online-warriors, on twitter especially, I’ve not come across Americans, Democrats, raging over the political party.

Indeed, I gather the opposite - that the majority are apathetic to anything regarding the future of the political party.

rage sells in any form

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:10:20am

re: #203 KGxvi

It almost makes you wonder why Wall Street sides with Republicans anymore.

I assume they show up to dinner meetings with better looking hookers…

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:10:35am

re: #200 freetoken

Coolest thing about that video is all the lightning caused by the eruption and static discharges. Amazing stuff.

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freetoken  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:11:57am

re: #207 lawhawk

It’s a night-time eruption, and you can see the stars on the camera, I think.

There’s better quality versions from the NHK floating around that show more detail.

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b.d.  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:12:13am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

BABY SNIDELY WHIPLASH IS A HORRIBLE GARBAGE HUMAN BEING==>

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Ben’s lot in life is just to be a dickish troll forever and ever?

What a miserable life.

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KGxvi  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:13:17am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I assume they show up to dinner meetings with better looking hookers…

You’d think both sides would be able to supply high class call girls, though.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:13:22am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:16:41am

CNN Commentator: Powell, Rice Revelations Validate Clinton’s Email Explanation

But Hillary’s indictment will be handed down any day now…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:18:56am

re: #212 Dr. Matt

CNN Commentator: Powell, Rice Revelations Validate Clinton’s Email Explanation

But Hillary’s indictment will be handed down any day now…..

Colin and Condi are not running for President and they did not kill anyone in Benghazi!!!

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:19:54am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Colin and Condi are not running for President and they did not kill anyone in Benghazi!!!

AND VINCE FOSTER!

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Timothy Watson  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:23:39am

re: #214 Dr. Matt

AND VINCE FOSTER!

RIP VINCE FOSTER
NEVER FORGET!!1!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:24:19am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

BABY SNIDELY WHIPLASH IS A HORRIBLE GARBAGE HUMAN BEING==>

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I think it’s literally impossible for Baby Ben to act like a decent human being. His parents must be so proud of their little Eddie Munster.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:25:30am

re: #209 b.d.

Ben’s lot in life is just to be a dickish troll forever and ever?

What a miserable life.

You want to know how miserable he is? The little bastard’s child was being born and he was still raging on Twitter against Obama. I feel bad for his wife and kid. He’s miserable probably because he knows he’s a pathetic hack.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:26:39am

re: #203 KGxvi

It’s actually rather amazing that the economy is as sound as it is. The three leading composites (NASDAQ, the Dow, and the S&P) have all more than doubled during the Obama administration, wage growth is back in the 5% range after being negative in late 2008 through 2010. There are still troubling aspects - I think there’s too much consolidation in certain industries (like banking) - but considering where we were when Bush left office, damn.

If you want to have fun with wingnuts point out these facts:

When Clinton took office the stock market was at 3223/633/408 (Dow/Nasdaq/S&P), when Bush took office it was 10495/2151/1239 (so during the Clinton administration the markets tripled), when Obama took office it was 7062/1377/735 (that’s a 30-40% loss during Bush’s presidency, start to finish), today they’re at 16466/4454/1940 (which means the Nasdaq and S&P have tripled while the Dow has doubled).

It almost makes you wonder why Wall Street sides with Republicans anymore.

I honestly why business except the homophobic and really really greedy ones sides with Republicans at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:27:05am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

You want to know how miserable he is? The little bastard’s child was being born and he was still raging on Twitter against Obama. I feel bad for his wife and kid. He’s miserable probably because he knows he’s a pathetic hack.

I can only guess that at one point, some people led him to believe that he was at the vanguard of a great movement to restore America or the like and he is bitter that things are not developing the way he thought they should.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:27:59am

Morning though everyone. Caught American Crime Story, the People versus O.J last night and it just occured to me how little I actually knew about the case. Did not know that Nicole was nearly beheaded, that O.J was friends with Robert Kardashian before the trial and that Kardashian was not a criminal lawyer by training, and that O.J tried to kill himself.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:28:43am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I can only guess that at one point, some people led him to believe that he was at the vanguard of a great movement to restore America or the like and he is bitter that things are not developing the way he thought they should.

Sounds pretty spot on to me. I just think it’s sad that he couldn’t even take a break from raging against Obama for one day to enjoy fatherhood.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:30:50am
Unemployment rate from 1998 to Present
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:33:31am

Yeesh, this is a block from my apartment building. My wife was awake and heard the crash. (NY Times photo)

(Dry Bar is a beauty salon. When it opened, I thought it was a tavern for recovering alcoholics.)

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:33:49am

re: #175 Amory Blaine

Don’t feel bad. A couple months back I said that Rubio was irrelevant.

Ahhh…the boy in the bubble!

In a way Christie is right…so far Marco is protected in the Republican bubble. The establishment seems to be trying very hard to protect him so he can be the establishment pick when it all comes down to making the decision if they are going to pick the nomination at the convention.

Should Marco be the candidate all his relevancy will be up for discussion and the bubble will no longer protect him.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:36:49am

Asshole needs to go crawl under his sheet.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:38:11am

re: #223 De Kolta Chair

Yeesh, this is a block from my apartment building. My wife was awake and heard the crash.

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Sure seems like crane collapses are happening way to often in NYC

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:38:36am

re: #180 lawhawk

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Looks like it was one of the large crawler lattice boom cranes (which has a boom lattice similar to tower cranes, so that explains my initial thought it was a tower crane collapse). It also appears that the crane somehow flipped over backwards (there’s photos showing the cab and crawler section flipped up on its back).

Wow. That is freaking scary. That crane looks like it was pretty damn tall.

Wasn’t there a big crane collapse in the city a year or two ago? I seem to remember you posting some info and images of a similar incident.

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Botsplainer  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:38:48am

re: #203 KGxvi

It’s actually rather amazing that the economy is as sound as it is. The three leading composites (NASDAQ, the Dow, and the S&P) have all more than doubled during the Obama administration, wage growth is back in the 5% range after being negative in late 2008 through 2010. There are still troubling aspects - I think there’s too much consolidation in certain industries (like banking) - but considering where we were when Bush left office, damn.

If you want to have fun with wingnuts point out these facts:

When Clinton took office the stock market was at 3223/633/408 (Dow/Nasdaq/S&P), when Bush took office it was 10495/2151/1239 (so during the Clinton administration the markets tripled), when Obama took office it was 7062/1377/735 (that’s a 30-40% loss during Bush’s presidency, start to finish), today they’re at 16466/4454/1940 (which means the Nasdaq and S&P have tripled while the Dow has doubled).

It almost makes you wonder why Wall Street sides with Republicans anymore.

Wall Street sides with Republicans and Main Street sides with Republicans. So do white suburbanites, exurbanites and impoverished rurals. They do it in opposition to their best economic interests because of structural, enduring racism, which they internally deem their higher interest without saying it.

Punishing the black, brown, different and poor is so ingrained via everything from Calvin to Rand, and we’re absolutely awash in it.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:39:35am

re: #225 Dave In Austin

The oil tax is indeed DOA, and it would be regressive, but considering the falling oil prices, it would amount to about 25 cents per gallon increase all to fund mass transit and other infrastructure projects. That’s a clear pay-go with definite and clear funding as opposed to GOP plans that provide no clear way to pay for any infrastructure.

That is, when the GOP isn’t actively screwing up infrastructure, like they did in Michigan.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:40:58am

re: #227 ObserverArt

The last major crane incident I can recall in NYC was probably during Sandy - when the crane atop One57 collapsed during the storm causing damage to the structure and threatening other buildings, but otherwise was without casualties.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:41:03am

re: #228 Botsplainer

As Propane Jane said in a tweet, they’ve decided that White Privilege is more important than economic security.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:43:27am

re: #203 KGxvi

And despite Wall Street getting spanked the last 4 weeks, the unemployment rate and job growth/creation are both improving. GOP Butthurt at elevenity.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:43:42am

re: #203 KGxvi

It’s actually rather amazing that the economy is as sound as it is. The three leading composites (NASDAQ, the Dow, and the S&P) have all more than doubled during the Obama administration, wage growth is back in the 5% range after being negative in late 2008 through 2010. There are still troubling aspects - I think there’s too much consolidation in certain industries (like banking) - but considering where we were when Bush left office, damn.

If you want to have fun with wingnuts point out these facts:

When Clinton took office the stock market was at 3223/633/408 (Dow/Nasdaq/S&P), when Bush took office it was 10495/2151/1239 (so during the Clinton administration the markets tripled), when Obama took office it was 7062/1377/735 (that’s a 30-40% loss during Bush’s presidency, start to finish), today they’re at 16466/4454/1940 (which means the Nasdaq and S&P have tripled while the Dow has doubled).

It almost makes you wonder why Wall Street sides with Republicans anymore.

Heh. Maybe that is why Wall Street is so willing to give moar bucks to a Clinton.

/x3

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makeitstop  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:43:49am

re: #223 De Kolta Chair

(Dry Bar is a beauty salon. When it opened, I thought it was a tavern for recovering alcoholics.)

Those Dry Bars are all over the city now. Proof positive that you can sell anybody anything with the right marketing.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:44:37am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart

Sure seems like crane collapses are happening way to often in NYC

There was certainly a rash of them a few years ago, and the way Bloomberg dragged his feet over responding to the situation was a scandal largely swept under the table rug by his pals in the press.

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Billy Batts  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:44:43am

What did the poor cat do to deserve such cruelty?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:45:18am

re: #236 Billy Batts

What did the poor cat do to deserve such cruelty?

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Cats are generally assholes.

Asshole Cats Compilation

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:47:50am

re: #236 Billy Batts

What did the poor cat do to deserve such cruelty?

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Cats are the only true libertarians.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:51:52am

re: #235 De Kolta Chair

There was certainly a rash of them a few years ago, and the way Bloomberg dragged his feet over responding to the situation was a scandal largely swept under the table by his pals in the press.

I try to avert my eyes when walking by one. There’s something yuppie-creepy about them.

Btw, I miss seeing older NYers with blue rinses, especially the ladies in Little Italy who’d be hanging out chatting and keeping an eye on the neighborhood in their chairs that were chained to their buildings (the chairs, not the ladies). But that Little Italy doesn’t exist anymore. ;_(

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:55:19am
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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:55:51am

re: #230 lawhawk

The last major crane incident I can recall in NYC was probably during Sandy - when the crane atop One57 collapsed during the storm causing damage to the structure and threatening other buildings, but otherwise was without casualties.

Looked that one up. It must have been the one I was thinking of as it happened in October of 2012. Still within the memory bank.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:56:01am

re: #199 lawhawk

He said that he requested financial assistance for small businesses -

michigan.gov

That doesn’t help individuals whose homes are screwed because of the corrosive water that coursed through the pipes for months. And all of this was inflicted on Flint by the GOP installed emergency manager.

It’s all on the GOP here - every last bit. Calling for the SBA to extend loans is akin to offering a band aid when the injury is a severed limb.

SBA disaster assistance is in the form of low-interest loans, which are indeed available to individuals. I know this because I have 3% disaster loan from them for damage we incurred here at the farmhouse as a result of the 2003 ice storm (every household electrical appliance was damaged or destroyed due to all of the power surges before the power finally went out). FEMA gave us an outright grant to replace our generator and chainsaw (we were using our ancient welder for generating power and our chainsaw burned out after the first week…we were without power for three weeks).

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:56:51am

CNBC’s Larry Kudlow Attacks Hillary Clinton

KUDLOW: Right, she did the same thing. “[inaudible] have human rights, and this rights, and that rights, and free student loans, and free” — she just went on and on and on. It was like something out of Lenin or Trotsky. I don’t know what it was.

Is he auditioning for Fox?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:57:38am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

CNBC’s Larry Kudlow Attacks Hillary Clinton

Is he auditioning for Fox?

Yeah because affordable education for all is such a terrible concept.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 7:58:34am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Yeah because affordable education for all is such a terrible concept.

And well established facts that Lenin and Trotsky were both advocates for free higher education for everyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:05:21am

jeebus…this family:

A son of Bunkerville cattle rancher Cliven Bundy was sent to prison Wednesday, less than two weeks after being dropped from a specialty court program.

Cliven Lance Bundy, 35, was ordered to serve between two and eight years in prison on felony burglary and firearms charges, which he pleaded guilty to in February 2013.

For about two years, Bundy participated in the drug court program, under house arrest and receiving treatment in an inpatient facility and a sober living house, according to Clark County court records. He was in the third stage of the program and nearing graduation when he missed multiple court appearances.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:06:42am

THIS LITTLE SHITGOBLIN==>

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:07:00am

Fatal crane collapse
Wow, headache ball in an office.

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nines09  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:07:44am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:09:18am

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

THIS LITTLE SHITGOBLIN==>

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Oh I’m so scared Ben. Why don’t you grow up and find a more productive hobby than pissing on the graves of people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:09:43am
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Kent Dorfman  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:11:05am

Dow

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:11:51am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Agh.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:11:58am

I had a post yesterday on Johnny Football Manziel’s newest problems in Texas. I closed it by saying he was a danger to himself and others. Looks like he very well may be.

ESPN - Johnny Manziel’s father worried QB won’t ‘live to see his 24th birthday’

If Johnny Manziel doesn’t receive help, he won’t make it to his next birthday, his father told the Dallas Morning News on Friday.

Manziel’s father, Paul, told the newspaper that the Cleveland Browns quarterback has refused to enter area rehab facilities twice in the last week. He said the family tried to get Manziel, 23, to enter a local addiction facility on Saturday, but Manziel refused to stay. Paul Manziel said he tried to have his son admitted to a psychiatric and chemical dependency hospital on Tuesday but Manziel was allowed to leave, despite his father telling officers that he believed Manziel was suicidal.

“I truly believe if they can’t get him help, he won’t live to see his 24th birthday,” Paul Manziel told the paper.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:12:28am

In sports ball news: More Johnny Manziel Fiasco
They immediate question that came to my mind was : Who is this “they” Pop Manziel is talking about?
I get the feeling that most of the “parenting” lil Johnny received growing up was from a collection of football coaches

Here’s the related article from The Dallas Morning News

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:13:54am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MeBWS is a member of IBEW.
His dues are $32 $43 a month.
edited to fix my fat fingers….

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:14:26am

re: #255 ObserverArt

I had a post yesterday on Johnny Football Manziel’s newest problems in Texas. I closed it by saying he was a danger to himself and others. Looks like he very well may be.

ESPN - Johnny Manziel’s father worried QB won’t ‘live to see his 24th birthday’

30 seconds

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:15:13am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart

In sports ball news: More Johnny Manziel Fiasco
They immediate question that came to my mind was : Who is this “they” Pop Manziel is talking about?
I get the feeling that most of the “parenting” lil Johnny received growing up was from a collection of football coaches

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They? Isn’t the older Manziel loaded? He needs to help his son too.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:15:33am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

A bunch of criminal welfare queens.

Yet the right keeps portraying them as upstanding citizens.

Cliven steals from taxpayers by refusing to pay grazing fees. His herds trespass on federal lands.

His sons engage in all manner of criminal acts.

There’s nothing heroic or patriotic about the Bundy clan. They’re a criminal enterprise.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:15:47am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

More ALEC legislation to reduce workers power.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:15:59am

Last week, in front of my office (30 mph zone straight-away), a vehicle drifted off the road and snagged the power pole’s guy wire. Today, someone drifted off the road and totally took out all three mailboxes. I blame republican cats, people texting, and Obama.

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:16:06am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

They? Isn’t the older Manziel loaded? He needs to help his son too.

In cases like Johnny Football’s, it’s not enough for help to be offered; it needs to also be accepted.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:16:28am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

I stand corrected.

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:16:42am

re: #162 Amory Blaine

Yes they have problems, we have problems too. Doesn’t mean we can’t have family leave, sick leave, universal health care etc. Canada has 35m, Germany 80m, France 60m, etc. They manage ways of maintaining these basic levels for their populations.

A big part of why Europe can have universal health care and we can’t is WWII.

We needed lots more workers doing lots more hours, but wage controls were in place, so health insurance benefits was an employers’ workaround to attract sufficient personnel, or poach them from other employers. Unions have since built on that.

In Europe, government institutions and economies and every other damn thing was entirely reduced to rubble. They re-built from scratch, workers needed to be kept working and not distracted by personal problems, so the emergency wartime ad hoc medical system evolved into a government agency.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:18:25am

re: #258 FormerDirtDart

30 seconds

Yep! I was going to ESPN to catch the recap of the Columbus Blue Jackets game form the west coast (Vancouver) late last night and being a Browns fan (it’s a loyalty sickness) and that was the number two story.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:18:36am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart

“I get the feeling that most of the “parenting” lil Johnny received growing up was from a collection of football coaches”

…called his Dad. There’s no way some kid from Texas, who goes by the name Johnny Football isn’t gonna end up screwed.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:20:36am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

They? Isn’t the older Manziel loaded? He needs to help his son too.

Sounds like the family has tried to help…maybe even an intervention. But the hardheaded Johnny is refusing. Train wreck coming.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:21:24am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

So, states that have slashed their birth control/reproductive health care budgets are most at risk of seeing this disease spread. Gotcha.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:24:27am

re: #270 lawhawk

So, states that have slashed their birth control/reproductive health care budgets are most at risk of seeing this disease spread. Gotcha.

And these are the same states that have the highest rates of obesity, cancer, heart disease, and smoking and have the lowest rates of educational attainment.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:25:17am

re: #269 ObserverArt

Sounds like the family has tried to help…maybe even an intervention. But the hardheaded Johnny is refusing. Train wreck coming.

Yeah this isn’t going to end well.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:25:20am

re: #269 ObserverArt

Sounds like the family has tried to help…maybe even an intervention. But the hardheaded Johnny is refusing. Train wreck coming.

Affluenza

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:26:14am

re: #270 lawhawk

So, states that have slashed their birth control/reproductive health care budgets are most at risk of seeing this disease spread. Gotcha.

If I were a religious person and didn’t constantly think God was on my side, I might think that He was sending Texas a message.

But the religious people here always think God’s in their side.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:26:52am
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:27:02am

re: #273 FormerDirtDart

Affluenza

Not in this case. There are plenty of cases of kids of all income levels leaving home and destroying themselves, and not caring what others think.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:28:13am

re: #276 Belafon

Not in this case. There are plenty of cases of kids of all income levels leaving home and destroying themselves, and not caring what others think.

Well in this case, I do remember his parents were with him when he got caught underaged drinking as a college student at a bar.

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:29:00am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Morning though everyone. Caught American Crime Story, the People versus O.J last night and it just occured to me how little I actually knew about the case. Did not know that Nicole was nearly beheaded, that O.J was friends with Robert Kardashian before the trial and that Kardashian was not a criminal lawyer by training, and that O.J tried to kill himself.

I didn’t watch it…I lived it. Was the prosecution shown as being as feckless as they were?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:29:14am

Looks like Ritzheimer has been extradited to Oregon.

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:30:09am

re: #199 lawhawk

He said that he requested financial assistance for small businesses -

michigan.gov

That doesn’t help individuals whose homes are screwed because of the corrosive water that coursed through the pipes for months. And all of this was inflicted on Flint by the GOP installed emergency manager.

It’s all on the GOP here - every last bit. Calling for the SBA to extend loans is akin to offering a band aid when the injury is a severed limb.

It’s more like… there’s a PBS show called Mercy Street about a Civil War hospital. Some of the staff wants to prioritize care (and access to medications) on the basis of who’s most badly injured, others want to prioritize on the basis of what uniforms the patients were wearing when they came in. Some people deserve morphine, others deserve to writhe in pain.

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danarchy  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:31:30am

re: #270 lawhawk

So, states that have slashed their birth control/reproductive health care budgets are most at risk of seeing this disease spread. Gotcha.

Well no, sexual transmission is a secondary transmission vector. States that have the type of mosquito that spreads it are at most risk of seeing it spread, which is mostly Texas and other gulf coast states.

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:34:04am

re: #203 KGxvi

It almost makes you wonder why Wall Street sides with Republicans anymore.

Because income tax brackets, earned income v capital gains, and the carried interest loophole.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:34:55am

re: #282 danarchy

On NPR the other day there was a report on how well-adapted the aedes egyptii mosquito (zika vector) is to living with humans; they live inside our houses, in our yards. A discarded plastic water bottle cap which had filled with rain was described as ‘the perfect breeding environment.”

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:35:44am

re: #282 danarchy

Right now, there haven’t been any cases of the mosquito-human transfer within the US though. The cases are all imported (the person got infected overseas, and came back with the illness). Once spring/summer rolls around, the possibility of the spread by mosquito-human transfer increases (as does the secondary transfers).

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:35:48am
Senator Bernie Sanders admitted this morning that he hasn’t quite got the hang of air quotes yet
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:36:28am

re: #279 WhatEVs

I didn’t watch it…I lived it. Was the prosecution shown as being as feckless as they were?

Well it’s episodic so the first episode ends with O.J getting in to Cowens’ Bronco.

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:36:41am

re: #260 lawhawk

A bunch of criminal welfare queens.

Yet the right keeps portraying them as upstanding citizens.

Cliven steals from taxpayers by refusing to pay grazing fees. His herds trespass on federal lands.

His sons engage in all manner of criminal acts.

There’s nothing heroic or patriotic about the Bundy clan. They’re a criminal enterprise.

And there are 14 kids. YIKES!

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:36:44am

re: #286 De Kolta Chair

He’s a Python programmer.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:37:41am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Here’s What Happens When You Try and Track Down a Ted Cruz College Rumor

Ted Cruz

I wonder if he may not be mildly on the spectrum and that could be why CCJ is drawn to him in part. Or maybe he’s just a dick. Or maybe just a dick on the spectrum. Because I can be a dick too. Not sympathizing with Cruz though as he goes out of his way to piss people off.

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:38:38am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Here’s What Happens When You Try and Track Down a Ted Cruz College Rumor

Ted Cruz

One responded to a three-line email inquiry (which did not contain the specifics of the rumor) by asking to be connected with my HR department, referring to my request for an interview as “a breach of privacy.”

I’d love to know who this special snowflake is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:39:09am

Baby Whiplash is retweeting all the hate Tweets he got for his Trayvon & Michael Brown trolltweets.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:41:06am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

I wonder if he may not be mildly on the spectrum and that could be why CCJ is drawn to him in part. Or maybe he’s just a dick. Or maybe just a dick on the spectrum. Because I can be a dick too. Not sympathizing with Cruz though as he goes out of his way to piss people off.

While reading the story I was thinking that Ted Cruz and Rage Furby sound so much alike.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:43:49am

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

Good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:44:21am

re: #282 danarchy

Well no, sexual transmission is a secondary transmission vector. States that have the type of mosquito that spreads it are at most risk of seeing it spread, which is mostly Texas and other gulf coast states.

So people should stop having sex with mosquitoes?

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sagehen  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:44:36am

re: #225 Dave In Austin

Asshole needs to go crawl under his sheet.

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Price of gas has gone down $3/gallon since he’s been in office. Now Congressman Pothole resents the idea that 25¢ of that should be spent on maintaining highways?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:45:43am

re: #296 sagehen

Price of gas has gone down $3/gallon since he’s been in office. Now Congressman Pothole resents the idea that 25¢ of that should be spent on maintaining highways?

It’s a tax, and taxes are evil.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:46:41am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

While reading the story I was thinking that Ted Cruz and Rage Furby sound so much alike.

I really do think that’s why he’s so drawn to him. A kindered spirit if you will. FWIW I don’t know if Chuck is actually on the spectrum like he says he is. I do know this, being on the spectrum isn’t an excuse for being an immature dick.

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makeitstop  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:52:59am

re: #275 FormerDirtDart

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Man, I know those things are tall, but I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the sheer length of that thing.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:54:07am

re: #291 withak

If this special snowflake is on LinkedIn, then that in-duh-vidual needs to look in the mirror as the source of the privacy breach.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:54:52am

re: #293 Dr. Matt

While reading the story I was thinking that Ted Cruz and Rage Furby sound so much alike.

He also reminds me of the sort of pernicious bastards who would rise to prominence in the USSR or in any other authoritarian states: the sort of people who had no social life to sacrifice in the course of pursuing their own goals within a malicious, all-controlling organization.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:55:33am

Rage Furby is bragging on his FB page that he’s raised almost a million dollars for some venture he’s doing.

bwahahaaaaaa

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:56:04am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

So people should stop having sex with mosquitoes?

Only certain species-specific mosquitoes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:56:53am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rage Furby is bragging on his FB page that he’s raised almost a million dollars for some venture he’s doing.

bwahahaaaaaa

Monopoly money?

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:57:49am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart

In sports ball news: More Johnny Manziel Fiasco
They immediate question that came to my mind was : Who is this “they” Pop Manziel is talking about?
I get the feeling that most of the “parenting” lil Johnny received growing up was from a collection of football coaches

[Embedded content]

Hope he gets help.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:59:32am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gawker will love know about that given the state of his lawsuits and likely anti-SLAPP in CA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:59:34am
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Skip Intro  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:59:40am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

CNBC’s Larry Kudlow Attacks Hillary Clinton

Is he auditioning for Fox?

He’s the reason I stopped watching CNBC.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 8:59:58am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Gold pressed latinum. Only currency with any worth. /

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:01:38am

Maybe I’m being too sensitive or something, but it strikes me that the fact that “Our Country” is all white is kinda subliminally suggestive about just who “WE” are that we want “OUR” country back.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:02:08am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:02:43am

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe I’m being too sensitive or something, but it strikes me that the fact that “Our Country” is all white is kinda subliminally suggestive about just who “WE” are that we want “OUR” country back.

Embedded Image

I dunno but it’s pretty obvious want the message is. They want an America where minorities know their place and whether Carly knows it or not, women fit into that too.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:02:51am
Drama queen

“The world appears to be trapped in a circular reference death spiral,” Citi strategists led by Jonathan Stubbs said in a report on Thursday.

“Stronger U.S. dollar, weaker oil/commodity prices, weaker world trade/petrodollar liquidity, weaker EM (and global growth)… and repeat. Ad infinitum, this would lead to Oilmageddon, a ‘significant and synchronized’ global recession and a proper modern-day equity bear market.” cnbc.com

*rolling my eyes*

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:04:01am

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe I’m being too sensitive or something, but it strikes me that the fact that “Our Country” is all white is kinda subliminally suggestive about just who “WE” are that we want “OUR” country back.

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Yeah, I notice that the people screaming the loudest about “taking our country back” universally are white folks who seem to think that things were better during some long-past “golden era.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:05:17am

what in the utter fuck

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Targetpractice  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:05:42am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

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*rolling my eyes*

Wait, wasn’t the whole point of “Drill Baby, Drill” that if we just drilled and fracked every plot of land possible, we’d rapidly end not only our need for foreign imports, but the days of high gas prices? Are we now supposed to buy that high oil prices is what the economy needs to remain upright?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:06:11am

re: #315 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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How is that not illegal?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:08:21am

re: #316 Targetpractice

Yeah, but recall, according to Fox “news”, cheap gas is a bad thing.…when there is a Blah Man in the White House.

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:10:12am

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Here’s What Happens When You Try and Track Down a Ted Cruz College Rumor

Ted Cruz

Finally, something about Cruz I can agree with. :-)

A fellow debater who often traveled to debates with Cruz described him, witheringly, as “an extreme fan of the Les Misérables soundtrack.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:12:22am

re: #318 Dr. Matt

Yeah, but recall, according to Fox “news”, cheap gas is a bad thing.…when there is a Blah Man in the White House.

Fox News would find fault if we achieved world piece under Obama because it would allow for a decrease in military personal and spending. Everything’s got a reverse silver lining with Obama in charge to those cretins.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:14:24am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Well it’s episodic so the first episode ends with O.J getting in to Cowens’ Bronco.

So the whole next episode is just a slow “chase” down the freeway?

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:14:39am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

How is that not illegal?

I posed as someone delivering a present to serve a subpoena, but I would think impersonating a city agent; employee or volunteer, would be illegal. Certainly immoral.

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Botsplainer  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:14:58am

re: #319 WhatEVs

Finally, something about Cruz I can agree with. :-)

So Calgary Ted is a big fan of musicals?

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:16:32am

re: #322 wrenchwench

I posed as someone delivering a present to serve a subpoena, but I would think impersonating a city agent; employee or volunteer, would be illegal. Certainly immoral.

Right.

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thecommodore  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:16:40am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Fox News would find fault if we achieved world piece under Obama because it would allow for a decrease in military personal and spending. Everything’s got a reverse silver lining with Obama in charge to those cretins.

Obama could have been Ronald Reagan on steroids the moment he took office - he could slash the top marginal tax rate to 20%, eliminate the capital gains tax altogether, triple military spending, make sure to say “radical Islam” in everything he said - and he would still be hated by the GOP because…well…he’s one of those blah people stirring up trouble…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:16:53am

re: #275 FormerDirtDart

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The first time I saw it I thought, “That’s a big fucking crane,” might even have said it out loud. Must’ve passed it at least a half dozen times since and thought nothing of it. Amazing what you get used to living in the big city.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:18:03am

re: #325 thecommodore

Obama could have been Ronald Reagan on steroids the moment he took office - he could slash the top marginal tax rate to 20%, eliminate the capital gains tax altogether, triple military spending, make sure to say “radical Islam” in everything he said - and he would still be hated by the GOP because…well…he’s one of those blah people stirring up trouble…

Exactly. They’ve hated him from the start and I think the reason is simple, the guy’s worked hard for everything he’s got and he’s a black guy to boot. The GOP is filled with people like Romney, Jeb Bush, etc who got to where they are because of Daddy’s money adn friends.

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:19:36am
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makeitstop  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:19:43am

re: #321 Eventual Carrion

So the whole next episode is just a slow “chase” down the freeway?

During a Knicks playoff game. I’ll never forgive NBC for that.

Anyways, we out. When I rejoin the conversation it’ll be from somewhere outside of Philly!

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:20:23am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:21:42am

re: #322 wrenchwench

I posed as someone delivering a present to serve a subpoena, but I would think impersonating a city agent; employee or volunteer, would be illegal. Certainly immoral.

JAMES BOND THEME

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:22:09am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:23:14am

re: #332 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m convinced now. I’m voting Trump. //

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:23:19am

re: #326 De Kolta Chair

The first time I saw it I thought, “That’s a big fucking crane,” might even have said it out loud. Must’ve passed it at least a half dozen times since and thought nothing of it. Amazing what you get used to living in the big city.

The seems like an even longer clip of the collapse, and with some awesome New York City play-by-play

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Slap  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:23:36am

re: #324 HappyWarrior

I think that’s skirting the edge, but….

Criminals, by and large, are dumbfucks. I remember when I was living in Northern VA, a police dept (maybe DC?) mailed notices out to a bunch of warrant scofflaws that they had been selected to receive Redskins tickets. All they had to do was show up.

I believe it resulted in a nice double-digit total of arrests.

I’m not sure I have a problem with this type of sting.

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:24:51am

re: #334 FormerDirtDart

The seems like an even longer clip of the collapse, and with some awesome New York City play-by-play

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I’d love to hear the unbleeped version.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:25:13am

re: #335 Slap

I think that’s skirting the edge, but….

Criminals, by and large, are dumbfucks. I remember when I was living in Northern VA, a police dept (maybe DC?) mailed notices out to a bunch of warrant scofflaws that they had been selected to receive Redskins tickets. All they had to do was show up.

I believe it resulted in a nice double-digit total of arrests.

I’m not sure I have a problem with this type of sting.

I dunno. Just sounds fishy to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:25:43am

Marco Rubio is just as batshit insane as Donald Trump and Ted Cruz

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:26:13am

re: #315 The Vicious Babushka

Police in Flint used guise of water filter delivery to arrest people

when life hands you lemons?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:26:49am

re: #338 The Vicious Babushka

Marco Rubio is just as batshit insane as Donald Trump and Ted Cruz

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As I said Monday night, the man’s a piece of shit.

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:26:50am

re: #335 Slap

I think that’s skirting the edge, but….

Criminals, by and large, are dumbfucks. I remember when I was living in Northern VA, a police dept (maybe DC?) mailed notices out to a bunch of warrant scofflaws that they had been selected to receive Redskins tickets. All they had to do was show up.

I believe it resulted in a nice double-digit total of arrests.

I’m not sure I have a problem with this type of sting.

That’s one thing, but even dumbfucks have rights and should get legal help to ensure they keep ‘em.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:28:03am

re: #339 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Babies Eating Lemons for the First Time Compilation 2014

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:28:12am

re: #341 wrenchwench

That’s one thing, but even dumbfucks have rights and should get legal help to ensure they keep ‘em.

Correct, in that sting, I’m sure once the perps showed up, they were greeted by men in blue. Given Flint’s water problems as of late, this just rubs me the wrong way. But yes even dumbasses have rights which is why the ALCU stood up for Limbaugh, the American Nazis, etc.

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teleskiguy  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:29:52am
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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:32:14am

re: #285 lawhawk

Right now, there haven’t been any cases of the mosquito-human transfer within the US though. The cases are all imported (the person got infected overseas, and came back with the illness). Once spring/summer rolls around, the possibility of the spread by mosquito-human transfer increases (as does the secondary transfers).

I thought the guy that got infected overseas gave it to his wife here, someone who had not gone overseas.

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451_Montag  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:35:18am

re: #344 teleskiguy

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Michelle Bachmann has let herself go hasn’t she?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:35:27am
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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:35:54am
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:38:18am

re: #342 Kent Dorfman

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Video

When life gives you babies, make lemonade?

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:39:19am

I guess I have missed a fun week.
Glad that Hillary won the first round (Iowa), even if it was close.
And yeah, I still have some misgivings about Bernie’s FP stances. There must be a reason why he is promoted heavily by RT.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:39:20am

re: #345 WhatEVs

The imported cases have since spread in at least three other cases through human-to-human contact, which is what the CDC issued warnings about.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:40:16am

Well fuck…

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:40:53am

re: #352 FormerDirtDart

Martyrdom celebration.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:42:54am

Also pitting moderates v. progressives was a silly move. He doesn’t need the moderate vote? Okay.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:43:19am

re: #98 Kragar

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I’m not sure if America’s ready for GWAR. I’mma thinking about half the country would drop dead of a stroke.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:52:47am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

As I said Monday night, the man’s a piece of shit.

He is getting even more shitty. He must figure he has to be a bad ass now to make sure he puts Christie down. And then if the little putz gets the nomination he’ll be sweet Marco again.

The guy is an empty suit. I don’t believe he has an original thought in that head. It’s all recycled claptrap he has been told to say.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:53:01am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

I’m not sure if America’s ready for GWAR. I’mma thinking about half the country would drop dead of a stroke.

I have never heard their music, I gather it would be directed towards teenage headbangers.

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:53:14am

OMG, some people…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:53:27am

re: #356 ObserverArt

He is getting even more shitty. He must figure he has to be a bad ass now to make sure he puts Christie down. And then if the little putz gets the nomination he’ll be sweet Marco again.

The guy is an empty suit. I don’t believe he has an original though in that head. It’s all recycled claptrap he has been told to say.

Yep. I don’t believe he has any original ideas either.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:54:27am

re: #358 ausador

OMG, some people…

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More food than they can cope with? FFS people. Anyhow good for France. This is great. Why throw that food out when it can ya know help someone?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:54:28am

re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I have never heard their music, I gather it would be directed towards teenage headbangers.

GWAR covers Kansas’ “Carry On Wayward Son”

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:54:52am

re: #357 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I have never heard their music, I gather it would be directed towards teenage headbangers.

They’re a parody metal band. They’re funny.

NSFW.

qtkDVZlTxr8yswcjs6XXNHYlBveln02Ck4ArNzJOm1IdyRHE33/+205mAEpERTzQAF3PK7o1i50=

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:55:06am

re: #334 FormerDirtDart

I found it funny that the New York Times uses/uses this same clip on their online front page: bleeps and all.

Though my amusement over the NYT was pretty well tempered by reading their coverage of last night’s Clinton-Sanders debate: they must have made it a part of their official style book that ANY reportage on ANY Clinton (except maybe Chelsea’s baby) HAS to be couched in as negative a manner as possible, without veering into actual insult Their whole takeaway from the debate seems be “Hillary’s ties to Wall Street”. And how she was booed by the Bernistas….

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:55:11am

re: #358 ausador

OMG, some people…

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only the lazy are needy…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:56:24am

re: #362 Dr Lizardo

They’re a parody metal band. They’re funny.

NSFW.

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I recall some places trying to ban them for being obscene or overly violent

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:57:32am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I recall some places trying to ban them for being obscene or overly violent

I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest.

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:58:08am

A guy I used to work for just came in to ask me for a job, because the city laid him off from one of his half-jobs. I’m not hiring, which he probably knew before he got here. The irony didn’t hit me until he left. When I went into the shop where he (and his co-owner) hired me (in 1995), he said, ‘I always wanted to hire a female!’ That’s certainly a nice sentiment in the bicycle industry, but I didn’t like the way he expressed it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:58:31am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I recall some places trying to ban them for being obscene or overly violent

They are just Power Rangers villains who formed a band. They are harmless! :)

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 9:59:34am

These patriot nuts are nuts. Listen to this “judge”. Wow.

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:02:43am

Wages starting to finally inch up as unemployment drops…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:02:44am

re: #369 WhatEVs

The youtube guy in that tweet has chemtrail stuff. lol

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:03:26am

re: #368 GlutenFreeJesus

They are just Power Rangers villains who formed a band. They are harmless! :)

Elizabeth Banks is going to play Rita Repulsa in the new Power Rangers. I guess she didn’t have enough to do.

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allegro  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:04:07am

re: #363 Jay C

I found it funny that the New York Times uses/uses this same clip on their online font page: bleeps and all.

Though my amusement over the NYT was pretty well tempered by reading their coverage of last night’s Clinton-Sanders debate: they must have made it a part of their official style book that ANY reportage on ANY Clinton (except maybe Chelsea’s baby) HAS to be couched in as negative a manner as possible, without veering into actual insult Their whole takeaway from the debate seems be “Hillary’s ties to Wall Street”. And how she was booed by the Bernistas….

What I have yet to hear, even from Hillary, is that a successful run for high office costs a LOT of money with our current system. Do we really want to just hand elections to the Republicans/oligarchs, who have no qualms about outright buying elections, by standing on some moral financial highground by refusing cash support?

Reform would be outstanding and would certainly garner my full support but that isn’t the way the game works right now. Show that Hillary has been bought as reflected by her votes, etc. or STFU and let her do her job which includes support for down ticket races.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:05:26am

re: #373 allegro

GOLDMAN-SACHS!!!!!!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:06:50am

re: #373 allegro

What I have yet to hear, even from Hillary, is that a successful run for high office costs a LOT of money with our current system. Do we really want to just hand elections to the Republicans/oligarchs, who have no qualms about outright buying elections, by standing on some moral financial highground by refusing cash support?

Reform would be outstanding and would certainly garner my full support but that isn’t the way the game works right now. Show that Hillary has been bought as reflected by her votes, etc. or STFU and let her do her job which includes support for down ticket races.

I was trying (badly) to make that point last night during the debate. Democrats can be as pure as the driven snow and get driven right out of every office.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:07:05am

It’s a shitty game and everyone is forced to play in some way. It’s why I would not want a political career at all. Honestly, I wish Bernie would get off his high horse. He’s not as pure as he claims to be and I was glad that Clinton and her allies pointed that out. You just know somewhere out there that is someone who thinks Bernie is too right wing.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:07:35am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

A few years ago a GWAR clone won the Eurovision contest.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:08:34am

MR. TRUMP. BUILD THAT WALL!!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:08:40am

re: #344 teleskiguy

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Looks like Rhacodactylus auriculatus.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:09:02am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

I suppose quite a few Berniacs think of him as a lesser evil on the way to the Glorious Revolution.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:09:46am

re: #378 GlutenFreeJesus

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MR. TRUMP. BUILD THAT WALL!!!!!

As I said, the Asian-American community is a group to watch. They actually gave a higher percentage of their votes to Obama than Hispanics did which is honestly quite remarkable given Asian-Americans were once a small part of the Republican bloc.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:09:57am

re: #380 Nyet

I suppose quite a few Berniacs think of him as a lesser evil on the way to the Glorious Revolution.

Wouldn’t shock me.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:10:20am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

Wait for his supporters to turn on him when he inevitably endorses Clinton for POTUS.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:10:22am

I am increasingly amazed and disappointed with how clueless Bernie is on FP.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:10:42am

The irony of irony would be if Bernie were to be nominated and the Greens and various small socialist parties put up their own candidates and the Bernie supporters had to tell them to be pragmatic.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:11:04am

re: #383 GlutenFreeJesus

Wait for his supporters to turn on him when he inevitably endorses Clinton for POTUS.

Some I think will but others I think will fall in line.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:12:03am

re: #384 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I am increasingly amazed and disappointed with how clueless Bernie is on FP.

It really is a big disappointment. He’s not someone who is new to this. He’s been in Congress since 1990. And what’s even more honestly disappointing is using votes as how he thinks he’s qualified. Shit I thought Iraq was a mistake too but please for the love of God do not nominate me for the Senate.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:12:20am

re: #384 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I am increasingly amazed and disappointed with how clueless Bernie is on FP.

He is actually quite up to date on 2002 foreign policy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:13:06am

re: #388 ObserverArt

He is actually quite up to date on 2002 foreign policy.

Sweet I can get my learners permit. Still three years left of high school though.

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:13:18am

re: #384 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I am increasingly amazed and disappointed with how clueless Bernie is on FP.

Every time I see that thought expressed, I read FP as ‘Family Planning’. Where I don’t think he’s as clueless, but I haven’t heard him denounce the Hyde Amendment like I have Hillary.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:13:19am

re: #348 wrenchwench

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“What are we gong to do tonight, Brain?”

“Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world!”

Pinky, where did you put the Red Rubber Nub?
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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:14:00am

re: #384 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I am increasingly amazed and disappointed with how clueless Bernie is on FP.

What’s the worst in your opinion?

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:14:21am

re: #384 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I am increasingly amazed and disappointed with how clueless Bernie is on FP.

And I think that’s why Warren will never run for president. I don’t think she is really all that excited about foreign policy, and I think she knows it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:14:35am

re: #390 wrenchwench

Every time I see that thought expressed, I read FP as ‘Family Planning’. Where I don’t think he’s as clueless, but I haven’t heard him denounce the Hyde Amendment like I have Hillary.

It’s frankly just another issue to him. I think he does value women’s rights obviously but he doesn’t see it as a priority like Hillary does which is why you saw PP endorse her rather than him which is what I think his supporters miss when they tout his record.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:15:21am

re: #393 Belafon

And I think that’s why Warren will never run for president. I don’t think she is really all that excited about foreign policy, and I think she knows it.

Yeah i think so as well. I like Senator Warren but the Presidency is an all encompassing job.

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allegro  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:17:10am

re: #390 wrenchwench

Every time I see that thought expressed, I read FP as ‘Family Planning’. Where I don’t think he’s as clueless, but I haven’t heard him denounce the Hyde Amendment like I have Hillary.

I was just thinking about that. I don’t think he has addressed the issue of reproductive rights at all, though I haven’t watched all of the debates and don’t know if the question has even been asked of him. My feeling is that it isn’t important to him at all and he may just see it as some silly “special interest”. I am entirely willing to be corrected if I’m wrong.

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:17:29am

re: #394 HappyWarrior

It’s frankly just another issue to him. I think he does value women’s rights obviously but he doesn’t see it as a priority like Hillary does which is why you saw PP endorse her rather than him which is what I think his supporters miss when they tout his record.

I’ve never believed one should vote for a woman just because she’s a woman (had an argument as a teenager with my mom about how wrong it would be to vote for Phyllis Schlafley), but I do think it is time to smash the glass ceiling, and Hillary is a good person to do that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:18:21am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Yeah i think so as well. I like Senator Warren but the Presidency is an all encompassing job.

Yeah, but if you keep talking about “winning”, and calling everyone else losers and dummies, you can fool some of the people all of the time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:19:29am

re: #397 wrenchwench

I’ve never believed one should vote for a woman just because she’s a woman (had an argument as a teenager with my mom about how wrong it would be to vote for Phyllis Sclafley), but I do think it is time to smash the glass ceiling, and Hillary is a good person to do that.

Right. I think a lot of people underestimate that about her. I think a lot of people feel she’s the right woman to smash that glass ceiling. She’s very qualified for the job not only compared with past women candidates but all candidates. Secretary of State used to be the stepping stone to the Presidency.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:21:23am

re: #367 wrenchwench

A guy I used to work for just came in to ask me for a job, because the city laid him off from one of his half-jobs. I’m not hiring, which he probably knew before he got here. The irony didn’t hit me until he left. When I went into the shop where he (and his partner) hired me (in 1995), he said, ‘I always wanted to hire a female!’ That’s certainly a nice sentiment in the bicycle industry, but I didn’t like the way he expressed it.

When I read this, it made me think about Obama’s election. I didn’t vote for him because he’s black, but it was cool voting for a black man. In the same way, I’m not supporting Clinton because she’s a woman, but it will be cool voting for a woman.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:21:35am

I can’t say I agreed with Obama on everything, FP-wise, but on the whole: that’s how you do it. And for quite some time it was Clinton’s FP too. That makes her a much safer bet for me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:21:51am

re: #396 allegro

I was just thinking about that. I don’t think he has addressed the issue of reproductive rights at all, though I haven’t watched all of the debates and don’t know if the question has even been asked of him. My feeling is that it isn’t important to him at all and he may just see it as some silly “special interest”. I am entirely willing to be corrected if I’m wrong.

I dunno if I’d go that far but I think he really limits himself by looking at issues only in an economics prism. I mean a lot of societal problems are yes economic in origin for sure but a lot are frankly due to long rooted sexism, racism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:23:05am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:23:38am

re: #400 Belafon

When I read this, it made me think about Obama’s election. I didn’t vote for him because he’s black, but it was cool voting for a black man. In the same way, I’m not supporting Clinton because she’s a woman, but it will be cool voting for a woman.

I got really pissed when people acted like it was oh so terrible that people liked Obama because he was black. Yeah, he has a perspective as an African-American man not to mention a son of an immigrant which we hadn’t had I want to say since Woodrow Wilson (his mother was from England by way of Scotland) and that perspective was needed for a change.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:24:36am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:25:29am

re: #392 Nyet

What’s the worst in your opinion?

The worst?
He seems to boil all the the FP issues brought out in debates to a simplistic, “I voted against the Iraq War” response.

He seems to have memorized some basic talking points on dealing with ISIL, sort of, but then flounders when asked about Afghanistan. “We can’t leave” is pretty much all he managed to say, apart from something about Jordan and troops. (Not sure where he was going with that).

I don’t know, I just expected him to learn about what is his greatest weakness.
The worst part is that he isn’t interested in doing so.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:26:18am

re: #397 wrenchwench

I’ve never believed one should vote for a woman just because she’s a woman (had an argument as a teenager with my mom about how wrong it would be to vote for Phyllis Schlafley), but I do think it is time to smash the glass ceiling, and Hillary is a good person to do that.

That construction, “Voting for a (blank) just because he/she is a (blank)” has always bothered me. Hillary Clinton is at least as qualified as anyone in the race. Obama, while he’d only been in the Senate a short time, had been in the Illinois legislature for a while, and started studying this stuff in College, and anyone who saw his debate performances - and didn’t look through racist eyes - could see he was qualified.

Does their gender/race play a part in why you might vote for them? Sure! Why not? They bring a different set of experiences to the job. Women are > half the electorate. Blacks are 13%, and minorities generally more like 40%. Their experiences are not the same as old white guys’ experiences and that’s a perspective that’s been lacking.

But “Voting for a (blank) just because he/she is a (blank)” suggests you don’t even look at their qualifications or positions, or how they comport themselves in debate or during the campaign.

(rant off)

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:27:01am
“Clearly North Korea is a very strange situation because it is such an isolated country run by a handful of dictators, or maybe just one, who seems to be somewhat paranoid. And, who had nuclear weapons.”

Painful.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:27:06am

re: #405 CuriousLurker

How typical. Just seen on Media Matters:

National Review’s Rich Lowry: “I Don’t Think [Trump] Goes Far Enough” On Immigration

Thanks I’ll remember that the next time NRO is linked to like it’s somehow a reasonable publication and not this shit. This is where Lowry especially infuriates me having immigrant in laws and having grandparents that were the children of immigrants. What a pathetic little man Rich and his publication are. They don’t have a problem with Trump because Trump’s a bigot, they have a problem with Trump because they won’t be able to control him like they would Rubio.
LOWRY: Yeah, and if we didn’t have any immigration tomorrow the country would still be great.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:27:38am

re: #404 HappyWarrior

It would only have been wrong, had there been a more deserving candidate. When candidates are equal, such things are fair play. And tbh, Clinton’s campaign was horrible, so Obama was the most deserving one.
There’s nothing wrong with being glad that a minority candidate (black, Jewish, gay…) has won.

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allegro  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:28:05am

re: #402 HappyWarrior

I dunno if I’d go that far but I think he really limits himself by looking at issues only in an economics prism. I mean a lot of societal problems are yes economic in origin for sure but a lot are frankly due to long rooted sexism, racism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc.

For women reproductive self-determination is THE most essential economic issue in our lives. (You are right, of course - just wanted to throw that out there.)

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:28:36am

re: #406 Not a Sparkly Vampire

That’s where his lack of experience is sorely showing.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:29:52am

/re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…this family:

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Ugh. Isn’t LaVoy Finicum due to be buried today? I cloud swear I read that somewhere last night when I was half asleep, and also that Cliven Bundy intended to show up.

Effing welfare ranchers are getting on my last nerve. They’ve already gotten one of their own killed with their arrogant stupidity. Assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:29:55am

re: #410 Nyet

It would only have been wrong, had there been a more deserving candidate. When candidates are equal, such things are fair play. And tbh, Clinton’s campaign was horrible, so Obama was the most deserving one.
There’s nothing wrong with being glad that a minority candidate (black, Jewish, gay…) has won.

Absolutely. I really didn’t like Clinton’s campaign in 2008. I think her campaign is better now. But yeah there’s nothing wrong with that. The most touching moments for me were seeing old black men and women who remembered Jim Crow being able to cast their ballots for him. I can’t imagine the emotion that went through them when they made that vote and that at heart is why the Republican disrespect of this President is so awful.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:30:46am

re: #410 Nyet

It would only have been wrong, had there been a more deserving candidate. When candidates are equal, such things are fair play. And tbh, Clinton’s campaign was horrible, so Obama was the most deserving one.
There’s nothing wrong with being glad that a minority candidate (black, Jewish, gay…) has won.

Ah, but define ‘deserving’.

There’s a distressingly large portion of the population that seems to think that having never worked in government at all is more of a qualification for President than having spent time in the trenches, learning how the machinery of government works. I think they’re full of shit, but they get to vote, too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:30:59am

re: #411 allegro

For women reproductive self-determination is THE most essential economic issue in our lives. (You are right, of course - just wanted to throw that out there.)

Right, I just disagree with you that he sees it as a special interests issue. I think he does value the right to choose but he as I got really limits himself but your point is sound as well.

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:31:37am

re: #405 CuriousLurker

How typical. Just seen on Media Matters:

National Review’s Rich Lowry: “I Don’t Think [Trump] Goes Far Enough” On Immigration

Not only an asshole, but a factually-challenged one, as well:

LOWRY: I don’t think he goes far enough in some respects though, Lou. Because for forty or fifty years after World War II, we basically had no net immigration to this country, and this country was still great.

Wrong, Rich: the “forty years” curtailment of immigration stretched from 1924, when it was severely restricted (basically due to prejudice) until 1965, when quotas were liberalized as part of LBJ’s “Great Society” program(s).

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:31:55am

re: #415 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah, but define ‘deserving’.

There’s a distressingly large portion of the population that seems to think that having never worked in government at all is more of a qualification for President than having spent time in the trenches, learning how the machinery of government works. I think they’re full of shit, but they get to vote, too.

He does, two sentences later.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:31:56am

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s also the stupid racist Republican (birm) stereotype of blacks voting for blacks. Except for all the black Republicans that got trounced when the majority of blacks voted for a white Dem.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:32:00am

re: #412 Nyet

That’s where his lack of experience is sorely showing.

Josh Marshall’s take on Hillary, by comparison, is that domestic policy is something she knows and knows well, but foreign policy is where she lives.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:32:43am

re: #417 Jay C

Not only an asshole, but a factually-challenged one, as well:

Wrong, Rich: the “forty years” curtailment of immigration

Yep. Really fuck Lowry and NRO.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:32:44am

What I want Bernie to do is sit down with some experts on what’s going on around the world and just learn. That’s all I want him to do.
It would help certainly make me feel better about entrusting the Presidency to him.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:33:23am

re: #417 Jay C

Not only an asshole, but a factually-challenged one, as well:

Wrong, Rich: the “forty years” curtailment of immigration

Which version of America has he been living in? We’ve pretty much always been a net positive immigration country.

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:33:40am

True…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:33:47am

re: #419 Nyet

There’s also the stupid racist Republican (birm) stereotype of blacks voting for blacks. Except for all the black Republicans that got trounced when the majority of blacks voted for a white Dem.

Right. “96% of blacks voted for Obama! How is that not racist?!?” Except that nearly that percentage voted for Gore, or Kerry.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:34:33am

re: #420 Blind Frog Belly White

Josh Marshall’s take on Hillary, by comparison, is that domestic policy is something she knows and knows well, but foreign policy is where she lives.

That sounds an awful lot like Obama.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:34:58am

re: #424 ausador

True…

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I thought we stopped it briefly in the late 90s when we taxed rich people and controlled spending?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:35:05am

WE CONSTANTLY DISPARAGE YOU WITH RACIAL STEREOTYPES!
WHY U NO VOTE FOR US?!?!
-GOP

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:35:39am

re: #419 Nyet

There’s also the stupid racist Republican (birm) stereotype of blacks voting for blacks. Except for all the black Republicans that got trounced when the majority of blacks voted for a white Dem.

And then they claim the white Democrats who voted against the black Republican are the real racists. It’s such juvenile shit they do. But the one I really hate is how they do these stupid memes about what the parties were during the Civil War era. Yes, the Democrats of the 1860’s were awful and yes, the Republicans championed abolition and the 13th-15th amendment but it’s also true that in the 1960’s as Civil Rights became a huge issue for our country, the Democrats embraced Civil Rights nationally while the Republicans were running away from it. They love to show the figures of the CRA-1964 which show a higher percentage of Republicans voting for that law but what they ignore is their party went out and nominated an opponent of that bill. There was a very good reason why African Americans went from giving Nixon 30% of the vote in 1960 and it may have even been more to around 5% for Goldwater four years later and in the years since the GOP has never come close to what Nixon got that year. African-American voters aren’t stupid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:35:45am

re: #426 Belafon

That sounds an awful lot like Obama.

Hence my increasing support for HRC, and not just because my wife has the same first name.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:35:57am

re: #425 Blind Frog Belly White

And of course it’s usually the same guys that would vote for anybody but niCLANG!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:36:08am

re: #423 Belafon

Which version of America has he been living in? We’ve pretty much always been a net positive immigration country.

Well he probably like Mr. Burns considers Joe DiMaggio too ethnic.

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:36:29am

re: #400 Belafon

When I read this, it made me think about Obama’s election. I didn’t vote for him because he’s black, but it was cool voting for a black man. In the same way, I’m not supporting Clinton because she’s a woman, but it will be cool voting for a woman.

When I first read that, I thought you had hit ‘reply’ on the wrong comment. Now I see it was a happy convergence of ideas in my comments.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:38:05am

re: #405 CuriousLurker

How typical. Just seen on Media Matters:

National Review’s Rich Lowry: “I Don’t Think [Trump] Goes Far Enough” On Immigration

Tell me again how the NRO doesn’t like Trump? Oh wait, the NRO’s position is more extreme than even Trump goes.

They’re extremists - one and all. They just want to wrap up their crapwich in a bow.

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allegro  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:38:08am

re: #422 Not a Sparkly Vampire

What I want Bernie to do is sit down with some experts on what’s going on around the world and just learn. That’s all I want him to do.
It would help certainly make me feel better about entrusting the Presidency to him.

I would think that after his many years in Congress he would already have that foundation. Find it pretty disconcerting to think that a congressman who wields votes that determine FP funding etc. has had no idea what he’s voting for or why. Kinda discounts to me his muchly claimed wisdom in voting against Iraq war. Just get lucky in retrospect?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:38:17am

Anyhow a lot of people say the roots of African-Americans going to the Democrats started with FDR but I’ve heard other historians say the Great Flood of 1924 and Herbert Hoover’s weak response to it was the real spark for many African-Americans that the Republican Party just didn’t care about their well being. Not sure what Hoover’s exact role in the 1924 flood relief but I’ve read this.

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:38:34am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:38:35am

re: #428 Not a Sparkly Vampire

WE CONSTANTLY DISPARAGE YOU WITH RACIAL STEREOTYPES!
WHY U NO VOTE FOR US?!?!
-GOP

What amazes me is how Republicans don’t see just how racist it is to tell black people that they’re too stupid to know what’s good for them, and so corrupt and venal that their votes can be bought with ‘free stuff’ that everyone else also can get. It’s astonishingly patronizing, and racist, and the folks who say it somehow don’t get that.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:39:01am

“BBUT WHAT BOUT SARAH SHES WIMMEN TOO WHY U NO VOTE FOR HER!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:39:16am

re: #434 lawhawk

Tell me again how the NRO doesn’t like Trump? Oh wait, the NRO’s position is more extreme than even Trump goes.

They’re extremists - one and all. They just want to wrap up their crapwich in a bow.

In many ways NRO has a problem with Trump for not being extreme enough. Trump while he talks an anti-choice game I don’t think would care if Ivanka had an abortion. He probably definitely doesn’t feel like Kevin Williamson that women who get them should be hanged.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:39:37am

re: #438 Blind Frog Belly White

What amazes me is how Republicans don’t see just how racist it is to tell black people that they’re too stupid to know what’s good for them, and so corrupt and venal that their votes can be bought with ‘free stuff’ that everyone else also can get. It’s astonishingly patronizing, and racist, and the folks who say it somehow don’t get that.

DEM PLANTATION!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:40:00am

re: #431 Nyet

And of course it’s usually the same guys that would vote for anybody but niCLANG!

Oh, they might at least SAY they’d vote for “One Of The Good Ones”.

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Kragar  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:41:51am

re: #437 ausador

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Call for vengeance?

Arrest this motherfucker for incitement

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:42:01am

re: #442 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, they might at least SAY they’d vote for “One Of The Good Ones”.

That reminds me of a conversation with a right-wing Russian-French woman in ca. 2003: “I don’t dislike Arabs. For example, I like Joseph Farah.”.

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Jay C  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:43:06am

re: #421 HappyWarrior

re: #421 HappyWarrior

Sorry, for some reason my #417 posted before I had a chance to finish it.

But yeah, the US has always - one way or another - had a positive influx of immigrants vs. emigrants, even back in the restrictive pre-WWII era. That the 1924 laws were - overtly in those days - designed to keep America as lily-white (and Protestant) as possible never seems to be a factor with these clowns. Or at least - and I guess it’s a sign of progress that they’re embarrassed to overtly admit it - they agree.

Yeah, fuck Lowry and the NR : Yesterday’s hacks flogging the Day-Before-Yesterday’s policies.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:43:22am

For some reason I have a tendency to confuse right wing harpy Phyllis Schlafly with the renowned psy-quack Jeane Dixon. I guess this is because I first became aware of both in the early 60s, they were about equally prominent in the media then, and they were both somewhat scary old ladies (Schlafly was about 40 then, Dixon even more ancient).
Like Schlafly, Dixon stuck around a long time, finally shuffling off this mortal sphere in 1997 at age 93.
One of my aunts was a big fan of Dixon’s newspaper column, constantly extolling Dixon’s “uncannily accurate” predictions and duly ignoring the much greater number of inaccurate ones. This tendency, which underpins the whole psychic subculture and industry, is known as the Jeane Dixon effect.

John Allen Paulos, a mathematician at Temple University, coined the term ‘the Jeane Dixon effect’, which references a tendency to promote a few correct predictions while ignoring a larger number of incorrect predictions. Many of Dixon’s predictions proved false, such as her claims that a dispute over the offshore Chinese islands of Quemoy and Matsu would trigger the start of World War III in 1958, that American labor leader Walter Reuther would run for President of the United States in the 1964 presidential election, that the second child of Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau and his young wife Margaret would be a girl (it was a boy), and that the Russians would be the first to put men on the moon

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:44:59am

re: #446 Shiplord Kirel

Everyone knows Nazis were the first on the moon.
DUH.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:46:44am

re: #445 Jay C

Sorry, for some reason my #417 posted before I had a chance to finish it.

But yeah, the US has always - one way or another - had a positive influx of immigrants vs. emigrants, even back in the restrictive pre-WWII era. That the 1924 laws were - overtly in those days - designed to keep America as lily-white (and Protestant) as possible never seems to be a factor with these clowns. Or at least - and I guess it’s a sign of progress that they’re embarrassed to overtly admit it - they agree.

Yeah, fuck Lowry and the NR : Yesterday’s hacks flogging the Day-Before-Yesterday’s policies.

My great grandmother (last direct person in my tree to emigrate) emigrated just a few years before the quotas. Who knows what would have happened if she had decided she wanted a better life after the 1924 quota. But yeah, the 1924 laws were all about keeping America as white and Protestant as possible.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:48:27am

re: #446 Shiplord Kirel

For some reason I have a tendency to confuse right wing harpy Phyllis Schlafly with the renowned psy-quack Jeane Dixon. I guess this is because I first became aware of both in the early 60s, they were about equally prominent in the media then, and they were both somewhat scary old ladies (Schlafly was about 40 then, Dixon even more ancient).
Like Schlafly, Dixon stuck around a long time, finally shuffling off this mortal sphere in 1997 at age 93.
One of my aunts was a big fan of Dixon’s newspaper column, constantly extolling Dixon’s “uncannily accurate” predictions and duly ignoring the much greater number of inaccurate ones. This tendency, which underpins the whole psychic subculture and industry, is known as the Jeane Dixon effect.

Kind of a Nostradumbass.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:48:49am

Let’s be honest though about conservatism in this country. It’s always been about exclusion versus inclusion. First the exclusion of blacks for being able to enjoy the freedom to work for a wage, then the freedom of Catholic Germans and Irish to emgirate, then Eastern Europeans, Jews, and Italians, and now they target Muslims, Latinos, and Asians.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:48:50am

Heard over the PA system in the Tribeca Whole Foods 15 minutes ago: “Attention shoppers, due to heavy traffic there will be no deliveries today.”

That sound you heard was thousands of yuppies caterwauling.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:48:54am

An advisory (SITREP listed below) issued Wednesday by the Utah Statewide Information and Analysis Center — and reported on by the libertarian outlet Reason — alerts law enforcement officials near Kanab, Utah, where the funeral is being held Friday, to be “vigilant and aware that confrontation with these potentially volatile persons, may include more than one individual.” The advisory notes that the Finicum family has asked for a quiet service; “however, extremists may utilize such a high profile funeral for media attention or to further ideological beliefs.”

“With the amount of support on social media which some domestic extremists involved in the funeral have received, law enforcement should remain cognizant of the likelihood of the presence of domestic extremists travelling [sic] within their [area of responsibility],” it said. “This may include both militia extremists and sovereign citizen extremists.

SITUATION REPORT (SITREP)
Funeral for LaVoy Finicum
Release: 03 February 2016

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Stanley Sea  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:51:31am
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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:51:40am

I think I should make a page on how the Russian state media and German neo-Nazis basically cooperated in spreading a story about a 13 y.o. Russian-German girl from Berlin allegedly kidnapped and raped by several Arab migrants for 30 hours, which was heavily promoted in Russia and was subsequently debunked by the Berlin police (the girl lied). If that doesn’t show the true face of the Putinist propaganda, I don’t know what does.
Then there’s the story about a prominent Russian priest calling for violence against female spouses (“break her around your knee”…). Maybe tomorrow.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:52:16am

re: #447 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Everyone knows Nazis were the first on the moon.
DUH.

Nah, it was the French. They love green cheese.

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:53:53am

re: #413 CuriousLurker

/

Ugh. Isn’t LaVoy Finicum due to be buried today? I cloud swear I read that somewhere last night when I was half asleep, and also that Cliven Bundy intended to show up.

Effing welfare ranchers are getting on my last nerve. They’ve already gotten one of their own killed with their arrogant stupidity. Assholes.

Yes, I believe it is today.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:55:33am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Let’s be honest though about conservatism in this country. It’s always been about exclusion versus inclusion. First the exclusion of blacks for being able to enjoy the freedom to work for a wage, then the freedom of Catholic Germans and Irish to emgirate, then Eastern Europeans, Jews, and Italians, and now they target Muslims, Latinos, and Asians.

That’s because Conservatism, in every era, is mostly about maintaining the current power structure. It presumes that the people who are currently on top are SUPPOSED TO BE on top. Hence the support of monarchy, or the aristocracy, or the rich, or the Protestants, or white people.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:55:35am

re: #447 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Werewolf women of the SS.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:56:09am

re: #447 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Everyone knows Nazis were the first on the moon.
DUH.

Keep thinking that, no one has made it to the moon.

//

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:56:18am

I’m sorry, Cali will always be a city in Colombia, not a state on the US west coast.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:56:41am

Oh, great.

‘As An African-American, I Support Him 100 Percent’: Newsboys Lead Singer Michael Tait Endorses Ted Cruz (via donotlink)

Singer-songwriter Michael Tait, the frontman for the Christian pop-rock band Newsboys, has officially endorsed Texas Sen. Ted Cruz for president, citing the GOP hopeful’s principles, saying that, as an African-American, he supports him “100 percent.”

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:57:34am

re: #458 lawhawk

Werewolf women of the SS.

SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO?!

Totally NSFW

rVnNo+LGNLVSUDgMvfYXnslvxnBVk5ymCcTfIsLdehZc68FDxflqvnXM9+yJzBnqK4OAWORQZtU=

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:57:35am

re: #459 Eventual Carrion

Keep thinking that, no one has made it to the moon.

//

Because it’s a hologram.

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:57:57am

re: #414 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. I really didn’t like Clinton’s campaign in 2008. I think her campaign is better now. But yeah there’s nothing wrong with that. The most touching moments for me were seeing old black men and women who remembered Jim Crow being able to cast their ballots for him. I can’t imagine the emotion that went through them when they made that vote and that at heart is why the Republican disrespect of this President is so awful.

You know, it’s funny. While I will enthusiastically vote for Clinton, it’s not that I am voting for the first woman for president. I think she’s the most qualified. While I appreciate people for voting for Obama, I think in the same way, he was most qualified. There were other black candidates (and no, the country wasn’t ready for them) before him, but I couldn’t, for example see Jesse Jackson as POTUS.

I wouldn’t have voted for Obama if I didn’t think he would be a good president. Likewise, I feel the same about Clinton.

Of course, the last couple of elections had exceptionally unqualified people running on the other side. I would have cast a vote for Edwards (spit) before I would have let Palin anywhere near 1600 Penn Av. Which is how I feel about this election.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:58:38am

re: #459 Eventual Carrion

Keep thinking that, no one has made it to the moon.

//

Bullshit. Wallace and Grommit made it, in a homemade space ship.

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 10:59:12am
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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:00:24am

re: #461 Shiplord Kirel

Oh, great.

‘As An African-American, I Support Him 100 Percent’: Newsboys Lead Singer Michael Tait Endorses Ted Cruz (via donotlink)

And, by extrapolation, all African Americans support Cruz. It’s all over.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:00:43am

re: #465 Blind Frog Belly White

Bullshit. Wallace and Grommit made it, in a homemade space ship.

I have it on good authority that Wallace is a 33rd° Mason, and Gromit is on the board of directors of Goldman Sachs. Still believe them?

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:01:34am

I will just leave this here.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:02:28am

Hmmmm…

How many Kurds are dead due to Erdogan’s actions?

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:03:13am

Finicum: stupid name, stupid face, stupid life, stupid death.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:03:29am

re: #453 Stanley Sea

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Clintonistas are wise to stick to Myspace.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:04:34am

re: #469 WhatEVs

I believe that what you did is called a mic drop.

Giphy

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:06:39am

re: #471 Nyet

Finicum: stupid name, stupid face, stupid life, stupid death.

Finicium. A guy who bought into the whole sovereign citizen movement, thought he should die in blaze of glory and be a martyr for the cause - his blood watering the tree of liberty. He wanted to die in a shootout with law enforcement - he said so on several occasions.

Meanwhile the rest of his militia pals should get their just desserts for breaking countless laws. Prison for all of them.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:06:53am

re: #462 Dr Lizardo

SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO?!

Totally NSFW

Werewolf women of the SS

Strangely not available on Netflix, DVD or streaming

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:07:57am

re: #474 lawhawk

Finicium. A guy who bought into the whole sovereign citizen movement, thought he should die in blaze of glory and be a martyr for the cause - his blood watering the tree of liberty. He wanted to die in a shootout with law enforcement - he said so on several occasions.

Meanwhile the rest of his militia pals should get their just desserts for breaking countless laws. Prison for all of them.

And yuuuuuge fines.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:09:38am

re: #475 FormerDirtDart

Strangely not available on Netflix, DVD or streaming

I think this refers to one of Tarantino/Rodriguez-related fake trailers.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:10:35am

re: #403 Stanley Sea

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I watched that. Many times I have The Dan Patrick show on as noise in the background in the mornings. That was a very good and real segment.

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:11:08am

re: #477 Nyet

Yup. Rob Zombie also released a song of the same name.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:11:24am

re: #478 ObserverArt

I watched that. Many times I have The Dan Patrick show on as noise in the background in the mornings. That was a very good and real segment.

He always was one of the better guys on Sportscenter. Well grounded and not an ego.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:12:10am

I still want to see Don’t.
And that Thanksgiving flick.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:12:59am

(Squeakers is a hamster)

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:13:21am

re: #477 Nyet

I think this refers to one of Tarantino/Rodriguez-related fake trailers.

Yeah, it’s a fake trailer from Grindhouse. Rob Zombie did it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:13:54am

re: #457 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s because Conservatism, in every era, is mostly about maintaining the current power structure. It presumes that the people who are currently on top are SUPPOSED TO BE on top. Hence the support of monarchy, or the aristocracy, or the rich, or the Protestants, or white people.

Right, good point.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:15:50am

re: #453 Stanley Sea

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Well that’s obnoxious. I swear the Paul analogy looks closer and closer every day because that sounds like something Ron Paul supporters would do.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:17:17am

re: #422 Not a Sparkly Vampire

What I want Bernie to do is sit down with some experts on what’s going on around the world and just learn. That’s all I want him to do.
It would help certainly make me feel better about entrusting the Presidency to him.

Did Bernie ever answer the question about who his foreign policy advisers were? Frankly, when Chuck Todd asked a question, I started zoning out as soon as his smarmy visage was on the screen.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:19:38am

re: #486 BeachDem

Did Bernie ever answer the question about who his foreign policy advisers were? Frankly, when Chuck Todd asked a question, I started zoning out as soon as his smarmy visage was on the screen.

I’m curious about who his advisers are too. I know Robert Reich is a big backer of his.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:19:53am

re: #423 Belafon

Which version of America has he been living in? We’ve pretty much always been a net positive immigration country.

Amazing we even celebrate Thanksgiving, what with Pilgrims and the Mayflower and all that coming over on the boat crap. And what the hell were the French doing anyway giving us some dumb old copper-clad statue?

People!

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:20:14am
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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:20:24am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:21:30am

re: #489 lawhawk

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Christie really talks a lot of smack for a guy whose presidential chances went down the tubes because his own party couldn’t handle that he embraced Obama. He really is the last guy who should be talking trash to Bernie here and I hope Bernie reminds the gas bag of that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:22:25am

re: #490 jaunte

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I won’t allow my daughters to have the same opportunities I had along with my father, grandfather, and other male relatives. What a load of shit. If I were this guy’s daughter, I’d want nothing to do with him.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:22:54am

re: #469 WhatEVs

I will just leave this here.

[Embedded content]

So not only are Trumps words used in ISIS propaganda, but in Vanilla ISIS propaganda as well.

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:23:57am
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:25:34am

This North Korea Twitter parody account is so funny that I suspect that it might actually be the real deal:

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lawhawk  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:25:34am
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allegro  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:26:47am

re: #494 wrenchwench

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Dunno about that but many thousands of visitors from around the world to Brazil for the Olympics will undoubtedly turn the virus into an international thing.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:27:28am

re: #496 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

I just heard blood vessels pop from Ben Shapiro and CCJ’s brains.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:27:42am

re: #439 Nyet

“BBUT WHAT BOUT SARAH SHES WIMMEN TOO WHY U NO VOTE FOR HER!”

I likes women to have powerful brains! They are much more attractive when they can debate world politics, arts, philosophy, etc., and like to know how things generally work.

‘tis one of the reasons I see Sarah as very ugly, yet so many guys think she is hot. Ugh.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:31:22am

re: #490 jaunte

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gocart mozart  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:33:15am
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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:34:03am

re: #500 Eric The Fruit Bat

“…None of the people who carry on about “racial inequality” in the coaching ranks seem to care about the reverse racial inequality among players. You don’t hear anyone proposing a policy where teams have to try out at a certain quota of white dudes at the cornerback and wide receiver positions.”

Right away you know where he’s coming from.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:34:49am

re: #447 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Everyone knows Nazis were the first on the moon.
DUH.

They did have some pretty good camera equipment and cold fake it all as well as anyone!

(Heh)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:36:29am

re: #501 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

I think Barbara wishes Jeb would fight his own battles and leave her out of it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:38:07am

re: #502 jaunte

If his family lived in Israel and his daughters grew up and stayed there they would have to serve time in the IDF.

I swear, the more I think about creating a render no aid app, I think it would take off. The hard part would be the face recognition part.

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ausador  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:38:35am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:38:49am

re: #502 jaunte

Right away you know where he’s coming from.

What a bunch of whiny bs. And uh there are a good amount of white receivers out there actually. Not a lot of white corners because maybe that’s not a position a lot of white kids go out for. The reason why the Rooney Rule was implemented in the first place is that teams were overlooking some very qualified minority candidates for head coaching positions and I am proud to say as a fan of the team that the rule is named after that they followed their own rule and hired an African-American man who has been very successful so suck it racist fuckers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:39:47am

re: #506 ausador

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Agh, thanks Bernie. You sound like a right wing hack. And this coming from someone unemployed no less.

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:43:48am

re: #506 ausador

Is he going to start talking about the 62 million out of work?

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:44:16am

re: #501 gocart mozart

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This guy… *smh, headdesk*

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:45:18am

Know what is nice?

A little background. I am thinking of moving a little farther south, so looking for change in positions. This is because my wife had her right foot amputated a year ago and NW PA winters here in the snow belt (except for this strange year) are hard enough for people with 2 good feet, let alone a prosthetic. And truthfully, my wife has never been a great driver and her getting used to the left foot accelerator control we have installed in her car is enough on dry, clear roads. So a move a little more south should help. Someplace whose “regular” winter is less snow and icy (and less hills).

I contacted 4 old bosses/VP’s for references. So far 2 have replied back saying they would. One wanted to offer me a position at his place (he is a CEO of a hospital), but I explained why I was leaving the area. The other I just got email back from is lead software architect at a consulting firm. He also said sure, but wants me to call him. I’m sure he will try to get me to join up with his team.

It’s nice to know you left enough of an impression that the people you used to work for/with respected your work enough to want you to come work with them again.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:45:20am

re: #480 HappyWarrior

He always was one of the better guys on Sportscenter. Well grounded and not an ego.

And he is an Ohio boy. He has that dry/sarcastic Ohio humor. About my age too, so I feel a connection to him in a way.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:45:30am

re: #501 gocart mozart

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:45:33am

re: #506 ausador

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Aaaaaaand Clinton had/has what to do with the unemployment rate, Bernie?

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withak  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:47:43am

re: #513 jaunte

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“please clap for my boy”

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:48:34am

re: #515 withak

“please clap for my boy”

“He’s special!”

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Belafon  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:48:44am

re: #514 De Kolta Chair

Aaaaaaand Clinton had/has what to do with the unemployment rate, Bernie?

She’s going to continue Obama’s failed policies.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:48:48am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:48:54am

re: #512 ObserverArt

And he is an Ohio boy. He has that dry/sarcastic Ohio humor. About my age too, so I feel a connection to him in a way.

Oh I didn’t know he was an Ohioan. Always did get that midwestern vibe though. Just seems like a nice guy to talk sports with. Other ESPN guys I like are Kornheiser and Wilbon. And I have to say even though I agree with a lot of his political views, I am not a huge Olbermann fan, I find Keith to be a little too full of himself.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:49:51am

re: #514 De Kolta Chair

Aaaaaaand Clinton had/has what to do with the unemployment rate, Bernie?

Yeah he really should have welcomed that news because his policies are a lot closer to President Obama’s than the GOPs on that front. Seriously what was he thinking?

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wrenchwench  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:52:46am

re: #518 De Kolta Chair

[Your last chance to make bad choices before Lent. ]

My favorite line from a Tom Lehrer song, ‘The girl I pay the rent for, the girl I gave up Lent for…’

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:56:06am

In a Shyamalanesque twist, Donald Trump’s Achilles heel turns out to be soft, white, fluffy ice particles.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:57:32am

re: #513 jaunte

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Gawd, I can’t believe he did that. The jokes will make themselves—he’s never going to live it down. What a dork.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:58:57am

re: #519 HappyWarrior

Oh I didn’t know he was an Ohioan. Always did get that midwestern vibe though. Just seems like a nice guy to talk sports with. Other ESPN guys I like are Kornheiser and Wilbon. And I have to say even though I agree with a lot of his political views, I am not a huge Olbermann fan, I find Keith to be a little too full of himself.

Olbermann is unique. He is smarter than all get out and he just doesn’t know when to keep it in and use it later. He can’t hold back. From my understanding Patrick and Olbermann were great friends at ESPN and had a lot to do with making Sports Center a fun show. I think ESPN lost a lot when they lost them.

And yes, Patrick was born in Zanesville Ohio…on the Muskingum River, a very historic Ohio town due to location. Then his family moved to Mason Ohio just north of Cincinnati. I think he was recruited to play basketball at Dayton but he was too much a gunner type and transferred to Eastern Kentucky. Colorful dude. Sharp wit.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:59:11am

re: #523 CuriousLurker

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 11:59:36am

re: #523 CuriousLurker

Definitely poor political judgment on his part.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:00:09pm

Argh. Internet connection’s been down for two hours. Finally got back online.

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danarchy  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:00:42pm

re: #514 De Kolta Chair

Aaaaaaand Clinton had/has what to do with the unemployment rate, Bernie?

I don’t see where he tied anything to Clinton or even mentioned her…

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WhatEVs  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:01:48pm

OMFG. I am sorry, this just cracks me up. We’re supposed to take these guys seriously? SERIOUSLY? LMAO!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:02:00pm

re: #524 ObserverArt

Olbermann is unique. He is smarter than all get out and he jsut doesn’t know when to keep it in and use it later. He can’t hold back. From my understanding Patrick and Olbermann were great friends at ESPN and had a lot to do with making Sports Center a fun show. I think ESPN lost a lot when they lost them.

And yes, Patrick was born in Zanesville Ohio…on the Muskingum River, a very historic Ohio town due to location. Then his family moved to Mason Ohio just north of Cincinnati. I think he was recruited to play basketball at Dayton but he was too much a gunner type and transferred to Eastern Kentucky. Colorful dude. Sharp wit.

Yeah I think I’ve heard of Zanesville. Yeah I wasn’t knocking Olbermann’s abilities as a sportscaster. He is a very intelligent guy and as I said I often agree with him not just on politics but sports, he was for example spot on about the Derek Jeter stuff a couple years ago which got him a lot of crap but he’s got that smugness that can annoy people. Didn’t know Dan was a basketball recruit. Interesting. I really like his Just My Type feature in SI where he has a little chat with an athlete or coach.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:02:05pm

re: #527 Charles Johnson

Argh. Internet connection’s been down for two hours. Finally got back online.

*shhhh* *shhh*

Things were quiet while you were gone. The hockey stick in the fish tank? That was there when we got here.

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jaunte  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:02:30pm

Pieces of the true tarp soon to be for sale on Patriot Etsy.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:04:50pm

re: #529 WhatEVs

OMFG. I am sorry, this just cracks me up. We’re supposed to take these guys seriously? SERIOUSLY? LMAO!

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OFFS. I Itried not to LOL, I swear I did, but I couldn’t help it.

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Botsplainer  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:05:37pm

re: #486 BeachDem

Did Bernie ever answer the question about who his foreign policy advisers were? Frankly, when Chuck Todd asked a question, I started zoning out as soon as his smarmy visage was on the screen.

Bernie’s foreign policy advisors are from a conglomeration of drum circles, plus one very illustrative giant puppet showing how corporations oppress the masses.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:06:57pm

re: #527 Charles Johnson

Argh. Internet connection’s been down for two hours. Finally got back online.

Admit it, you overslept…..

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EPR-radar  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:07:31pm

re: #452 FormerDirtDart

Why am I reminded of funerals for dead militants in the middle east?

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:07:50pm

re: #530 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think I’ve heard of Zanesville. Yeah I wasn’t knocking Olbermann’s abilities as a sportscaster. He is a very intelligent guy and as I said I often agree with him not just on politics but sports, he was for example spot on about the Derek Jeter stuff a couple years ago which got him a lot of crap but he’s got that smugness that can annoy people. Didn’t know Dan was a basketball recruit. Interesting. I really like his Just My Type feature in SI where he has a little chat with an athlete or coach.

I was double checking. I had the college thing wrong. He was recruited to play at Eastern Kentucky and then he apparently transferred to Dayton, but I don’t think he played ball for them. He did go into broadcast journalism.

Also share another similar experience with him. Wiki says his father died of cancer when he was 25. I lost mine to same at 24.

And he is a rocker. Huge Led Zep fan.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:09:03pm

re: #531 Eventual Carrion

*shhhh* *shhh*

Things were quiet while you were gone. The hockey stick in the fish tank? That was here when we got here.

Did you get the beer bottles and the ash tray we slid under the couch when someone knocked on his door?

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:09:21pm

re: #528 danarchy

I don’t see where he tied anything to Clinton or even mentioned her…

Fair cop. I just took for granted that everything he says has a Hillary subtext.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:09:35pm

re: #524 ObserverArt

Olbermann is unique. He is smarter than all get out and he just doesn’t know when to keep it in and use it later. He can’t hold back. From my understanding Patrick and Olbermann were great friends at ESPN and had a lot to do with making Sports Center a fun show. I think ESPN lost a lot when they lost them.

And yes, Patrick was born in Zanesville Ohio…on the Muskingum River, a very historic Ohio town due to location. Then his family moved to Mason Ohio just north of Cincinnati. I think he was recruited to play basketball at Dayton but he was too much a gunner type and transferred to Eastern Kentucky. Colorful dude. Sharp wit.

Were you a Sports Night fan? (my favorite TV show ever.)

Shortly after Sports Night’s premiere, Keith Olbermann—former co-host of ESPN’s SportsCenter—couldn’t help but notice the similarities between Sports Night’s fictional anchors Dan Rydell (played by Josh Charles) and Casey McCall (played by Peter Krause) and he and his SportsCenter co-host, Dan Patrick, respectively.

mentalfloss.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:10:14pm

re: #537 ObserverArt

I was double checking. I had the college thing wrong. He was recruited to play at Eastern Kentucky and then he apparently transferred to Dayton, but I don’t think he played ball for them. He did go into broadcast journalism.

Also share another similar experience with him. Wiki says his father died of cancer when he was 25. I lost mine to same at 24.

And he is a rocker. Huge Led Zep fan.

Always tough to lose your dad that young. My dad was around the same age when my grandfather died. It’s hard I imagine to juggle journalism and athletics. I did interview one athlete, a volleyball player who also worked for the paper in addition to her volleyball playing so she was familiar with what to expect when I did a profile on her as part of my Volleyball beat.

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ObserverArt  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:13:06pm

re: #540 BeachDem

Were you a Sports Night fan? (my favorite TV show ever.)

Shortly after Sports Night’s premiere, Keith Olbermann—former co-host of ESPN’s SportsCenter—couldn’t help but notice the similarities between Sports Night’s fictional anchors Dan Rydell (played by Josh Charles) and Casey McCall (played by Peter Krause) and he and his SportsCenter co-host, Dan Patrick, respectively.

mentalfloss.com

No I never did see that show. I wasn’t too in to regular TV much at the time. Still watch very little of the big 4. I understand it was a fun show. I’ll have to check to see if I can find some online replays. I imagine there might even be some YouTube.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:15:47pm

re: #532 jaunte

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Pieces of the true tarp soon to be for sale on Patriot Etsy.

— the new saint awaiting his martyrdom, and who, if he shall suffer, will make the tarp glorious like the cross.

(apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson and John Brown)

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:16:25pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

Kelly Carlin retweeting a reply of mine makes me feel good!

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Because it’s Old English.
TIL that the synonym starting with “de” is decollate.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:16:39pm

re: #527 Charles Johnson
Yesterday my Internet connection went down late in the afternoon. I called up my ISP and told them my internet was down. They said there wasn’t an outage in my area, and then they tried to send a reset signal to my cable modem a few times-no joy. So they said my cable modem is bad and I needed a new one and at the same time they try to get me to change my cable plan to one that will ‘cut my bill’ (the service center had the definite sound of being offshore.)

Needless to say, I asked the person on the phone to send me the Terms and Conditions on the new plan before I agreed to the switch-needless to say, the wouldn’t do that. So I moseyed over to Costco and pick up a replacement cable modem on the odd chance that my old Moto Surfboard did indeed die. No sooner as I had pulled into the center turn lane into my complex I noticed a truck parked on the right-hand side of the road. Ka-Ching! It’s the ISP mucking with the fiber optic snowshoe at the pole. 20 minutes later my service was restored.

Gaah. Maybe I need to spring for business class service, but I’m afraid that the customer service will also be offshored. But at the same time it was obvious others complained, because the outage was under two hours total.

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BeachDem  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:20:39pm

re: #542 ObserverArt

No I never did see that show. I wasn’t too in to regular TV much at the time. Still watch very little of the big 4. I understand it was a fun show. I’ll have to check to see if I can find some online replays. I imagine there might even be some YouTube.

I watched every episode when it was on, bought the boxed set, and watch it about once a year. I loved that show. ABC promoted it all wrong, moved it around so it was almost impossible to find. I think it was Aaron Sorkin at his best—sports, social issues—it was all there. The episode about the confederate flag was exceptional. The way they handled it when Robert Guillaume had a stroke in real life was masterful. An arc about drugs in sports etc. etc.—the show had it all. (Can you tell I like that show?)

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CuriousLurker  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:21:53pm

re: #536 EPR-radar

Why am I reminded of funerals for dead militants in the middle east?

That was the first thing I thought of too.

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:22:59pm

re: #540 BeachDem

Were you a Sports Night fan? (my favorite TV show ever.)

Shortly after Sports Night’s premiere, Keith Olbermann—former co-host of ESPN’s SportsCenter—couldn’t help but notice the similarities between Sports Night’s fictional anchors Dan Rydell (played by Josh Charles) and Casey McCall (played by Peter Krause) and he and his SportsCenter co-host, Dan Patrick, respectively.

mentalfloss.com

Really good show, even for someone who isn’t into sports.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 5, 2016 • 12:25:45pm

re: #538 ObserverArt

Did you get the beer bottles and the ash tray we slid under the couch when someone knocked on his door?

And hid the roaches.

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Nyet  Feb 5, 2016 • 1:23:35pm

re: #529 WhatEVs

Holy relics. Pieces of the True Tarp.


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