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1
WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:38:30am

And that god awful singing starts again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:38:34am

Some horrible screeching feedback on the audio

Oh wait they’re singing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:39:08am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:39:38am

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

Some horrible screeching feedback on the audio

Oh wait they’re singing.

Get somebody to pipe in sounds of cats in heat. That ought to be entertaining.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:40:04am

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

Some horrible screeching feedback on the audio

Oh wait they’re singing.

Kumbayah?

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:40:10am

I guess I’ll check back in 12 hours to see how things are going.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:40:23am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:40:33am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:40:39am

How have the occupiers been eating, showering, washing clothes, etc for a whole month?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:40:48am

needs moar shofar…

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thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:40:55am

re: #9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

How have the occupiers been eating, showering, washing clothes, etc for a whole month?

You assume way too much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:41:12am

re: #9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

How have the occupiers been eating, showering, washing clothes, etc for a whole month?

they haven’t

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:41:28am

That was the Melissa Cooper announcement, but I have no idea how to embed that Facebook post.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:41:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:41:53am
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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:42:03am

I think the video in the OP is from yesterday, Charles.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:42:17am

re: #13 freetoken

That was the Melissa Cooper announcement, but I have no idea how to embed that Facebook post.

Right-click the timestamp on the post - that should be a link to the post itself. Then paste that link here and it’ll embed as Facebook.

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:42:29am

“COME AND GET US!” Oh no! They’re coming to get us! They ought to slap that ignorant deadbolt Michele Fiore for being a public nuisance and a threat to others. Or child endangerment with her half assed gun fetish. Merry Fucking Christmas. Jesus packed.

Jesus Loves You And He Packed Says Idiot Family
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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:42:43am

Something to brain-bleach the singing for those listening:

Joe Satriani - Flying In A Blue Dream (Satriani LIVE!)

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:42:49am

Franklin Graham is proud of these losers. Gah.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:43:14am

My husband Blaine Cooper was just arrested by the FBI….

Posted by Melissa Cooper on Thursday, February 11, 2016
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:43:26am

re: #7 freetoken

facebook.com

I think I should Like that…but I am confused. /

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KerFuFFler  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:43:34am

Who is Melissa Cooper? Never mind.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:44:09am

re: #23 KerFuFFler

Who is Melissa Cooper?

Blaine Cooper’s wife. He’s one of the Patritos who bailed early on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:44:57am

re: #23 KerFuFFler

Who is Melissa Cooper?

Blaine Cooper’s wife. The two of them left the refuge in the middle of the night when Finicum was shot and the Bundy gang were arrested.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:45:16am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:45:16am

re: #23 KerFuFFler

Who is Melissa Cooper?

We need playing cards for all the Bundys and Oregon Occupiers and their prominent supporters.

/

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:46:01am

These fools are lucky they live in the US, though the rest of us aren’t. Imagine an armed gang like this taking over a federal facility in a Brazilian favela. The government’s response would be short but spectacular.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:46:02am

re: #27 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We need playing cards for all the Bundys and Oregon Occupiers and their prominent supporters.

/

All jokers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:46:05am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:46:06am

re: #21 freetoken

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:46:34am
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:47:02am

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:47:14am

Fiore tells them to go pee.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:47:14am

They want lunch at Denny’s & govt has to pay for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:47:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:47:55am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

They want lunch at Denny’s & govt has to pay for it.

Fiore was supposed to bring them takeout from McDonald’s! She promised!

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calochortus  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:48:18am

re: #33 WhatEVs

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That is exactly what they thought. Except for the part where Cliven Bundy has now been arrested.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:48:20am

OMG this is awesome. My kids in class are playing some sort of interactive amoeba game…and a giant amoeba named Donald Trump just devoured one of my kids amoeba avatars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:48:42am
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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:48:58am

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

They want lunch at Denny’s & govt has to pay for it.

FBI - you’ll get 3 squares a day occupying ADX Florence. That’s the last federal lands you’ll occupy.

And then play these jokers the scene from Robot Chicken:
Robot Chicken: This Deal’s Getting Worse All The Time

If you don’t like the deal, pray we don’t alter it any further.

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ausador  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:49:44am

Live footage of FBI cat assualting Constitutional patriot dog!

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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:50:31am

I hope I am wrong but this still could go sideways. David Fry is about as unstable and unbalanced as it gets.

Fiore just brought up 50 Shades of Gray for writing up this whole mess. Seriously? Wow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:50:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:51:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:51:29am

LOLOLOLOL

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:51:35am

re: #39 Aunty Entity Dragon

OMG this is awesome. My kids in class are playing some sort of interactive amoeba game…and a giant amoeba named Donald Trump just devoured one of my kids amoeba avatars.

My youngest loves that game.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:51:58am

re: #33 WhatEVs

Sure, why not?

If it worked for Bundy….

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:52:26am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

Talk about effed in the head.

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calochortus  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:52:58am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL

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I was going to make fun of that, but really, it is way too sad.

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Black d20  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:53:24am

re: #39 Aunty Entity Dragon

Sounds like agar.io to me. Simple, silly, but an okay timewaster.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:53:27am

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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i can imagine the FBI hearing that, and making ‘jerk off’ motions at each other.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:53:38am

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah, OK, I’m seeing a bit of the plan now. They get RWNJ notoriety, each of them writes a “book”, then get a gig at Fox “News”. It all makes sense now.

/

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Le Lapin Tueur  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:53:53am

re: #27 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

We need playing cards for all the Bundys and Oregon Occupiers and their prominent supporters.

/

Kickstarter card game idea…

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:54:36am

Yes, America is watching.

And we judge you criminally insane.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:54:49am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

michele fiore says lawmakers can make proclamations, when Sean Anderson says he want to be an honorary marine.
— John Sepulvado

Whut?

Fiore says lawmakers can create honorary Marines?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:54:53am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:55:36am

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel

These fools are lucky they live in the US, though the rest of us aren’t. Imagine an armed gang like this taking over a federal facility in a Brazilian favela. The government’s response would be short but spectacular.

FN FALs fired from helicopters. I’ve seen those videos. They measure success by body count, Vietnam-style. Our obese warriors for justiss have it easy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:55:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:56:07am
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Black d20  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:56:07am

re: #54 Le Lapin Tueur

It’s be like Guillotine only the aforementioned guillotine standee being a federal prison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:56:43am
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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:57:11am

Longest fucking talk-down ever.

If this were the Samaritans they’d have said “OK, then jump, you silly bastards” hours ago.

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piratedan  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:57:33am

well… I hope that they get taken into custody without incident. Then are calmly informed about what laws they broke and are given the maximum sentence for their idiocy when found by a jury of their peers to be guilty of the crimes committed.

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Whack-A-Mole  Feb 11, 2016 • 8:59:14am

Is there a federal version of obstruction of justice? Interfering with an investigation? Something along those lines? Because if there is, the feds should slap some bracelets on Fiore as soon as they bundle up the 4 twits. She’s been encouraging and escalating this situation from day 1.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:00:41am

re: #65 Whack-A-Mole

Is there a federal version of obstruction of justice? Interfering with an investigation? Something along those lines? Because if there is, the feds should slap some bracelets on Fiore as soon as they bundle up the the 4 twits. She’s been encouraging and escalating this situation from day 1.

I believe it’s the one we’ve seen some of the others charged with, something like interfering with a federal officials ability to do their job.

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Whack-A-Mole  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:00:47am

At the very least, I hope her opponent in her next election hammers her mercilessly for her support of lawlessness and criminals.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:01:36am

Ranchers…simple farmers…the common clay of the New West.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:01:59am

re: #67 Whack-A-Mole

At the very least, I hope her opponent in her next election hammers her mercilessly for her support of lawlessness and criminals.

Won’t help. They elected her because of that support.

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calochortus  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:02:30am

OK, I need to get on with my morning. Here’s hoping everything ends quietly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:03:30am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Ranchers…simple farmers…the common clay Cliven of the New West.

Or in its Latin name, bundis vulgaris

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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:05:02am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Or in its Latin name, bundis vulgaris

fundamentum lacuna maximus

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:05:12am

re: #65 Whack-A-Mole

There is.

18 USC Chapter 73 (Sec 1501 and following).

Of note, Section 1510(a) - obstruction of a criminal investigation.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:05:26am

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Ranchers…simple farmers…the common clay of the New West.

You know. Mo-rons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:06:01am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:06:02am

re: #74 lawhawk

You know. Mo-rons.

That line never gets old.

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Sophist: Domo Arigato, Marco Ruboto  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:06:29am

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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To prison.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:06:46am

Damn…lurking and didn’t realize another thread opened.
I just posted this in the now old thread…

- - -

So Cooper is kaput.

Nice job feds. Everyone that is a major player now under control and facing charges.

And they let it all play out to show the entire country and world how stupid this all was. Even how stupid Finicum was for getting his dumbass killed for nothing.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:06:51am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:07:17am
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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:07:24am

Yes, you’re surrendering.

The only choice you have is if you are taken out in a body bag, of if you’re walking out.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:07:45am

They’re not surrendering. Right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:08:30am
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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:09:09am

I get the feeling that Fiore was told by the FBI to keep them talking. She’s gabbing incoherently.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:09:42am

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

The convoy carrying Michele Fiore and Franklin Graham approaching the turn to the refuge which puts them six miles from occupiers.
— Les Zaitz

Couldn’t the occupiers have demanded a Fox “News” personality or some wingnut radio talk show host?

/

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:09:57am

re: #84 makeitstop

I get the feeling that Fiore was told by the FBI to keep them talking. She’s gabbing incoherently.

That’s just Michele being Michele.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:10:17am

re: #84 makeitstop

I get the feeling that Fiore was told by the FBI to keep them talking. She’s gabbing incoherently.

The person that was babbling was KrisAnne. That was not Fiore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:10:21am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:10:46am

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is like watching grass grow.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:10:52am

re: #86 No Country For Old Haters

That’s just Michele being Michele.

Good point.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:12:18am

“Set aside reason”

LOL good one

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:12:24am

re: #87 20Hz

The Person that was babbling was KrisAnne. That was not Fiore.

I was talking about Fiore. ‘We’re at the Narrows. We’re at…we’re at…’ etc.

KrisAnne is pretty full of herself, though. Just like all these assholes.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:12:28am

The lady babbling her ridiculous stuff about teaching legislators was Kris Anne Hall.
A disbarred prosecutor.

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:12:30am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Silt of the Earth.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:12:34am

re: #86 No Country For Old Haters

That’s just Michele being Michele.

Palin-esque, but slightly more coherent

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:13:16am
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Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:13:17am

re: #9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

How have the occupiers been eating, showering, washing clothes, etc for a whole month?

They haven’t and the birds are starting to complain.

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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:13:54am

re: #93 20Hz

The lady babbling her ridiculous stuff about teaching legislators was Kris Anne Hall.
A disbarred prosecutor.

Oh, so she’s a constitutional “lawyer” and she practices in front of constitutional “judges”?
Awesome.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:14:33am

re: #92 makeitstop

I was talking about Fiore. ‘We’re at the Narrows. We’re at…we’re at…’ etc.

KrisAnne is pretty full of herself, though. Just like all these assholes.

I see. My mistake. Misunderstood you.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:15:02am

Graham - “It’s going to work out great”.

Sure… if “great” is a mental institution.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:15:44am
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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:16:05am

re: #100 freetoken

Graham - “It’s going to work out great”.

Sure… if “great” is a mental institution.

‘Federal prison is great, you guys!’

Says the guy who gets to go back to his Jesus mansion after this is all over.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:16:36am

re: #100 freetoken

Graham - “It’s going to work out great”.

Sure… if “great” is a mental institution.

It will be great when I see them in cuffs and I see their mugshots.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:17:11am
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:17:49am

This Gavin guy is so full of shit.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:17:55am

re: #98 WhatEVs

Oh, so she’s a constitutional “lawyer” and she practices in front of constitutional “judges”?
Awesome.

Yes, one of those types.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:18:16am

re: #105 WhatEVs

This Gavin guy is so full of shit.

He wants to be the next Alex Jones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:18:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:18:57am
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jayjaybear  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:19:25am

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m half-surprised Fry didn’t shoot them both in the back as traitors. That boy is seriously bent, probably more than any of the others, including Anderson.

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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:19:35am

I don’t really judge Graham, Fiore et al. in the context of this specific moment. Yes, they’re part of the broader nutty right wing problem over the long term, but right now I suspect they’re doing and saying exactly what the feds are telling them to do and say, within certain parameters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:20:00am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gavin Seim says refuge is in better shape than when militants arrived…I’m not so sure about that one from what I’ve seen on vids]

I can only assume he means that it is more Constitutionally sound…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:20:05am

Either they shoved a bunch of socks in his mouth last night or they found the meds he should have been taking…

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:20:13am
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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:20:19am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Moar MOLON LABE posters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:20:52am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:21:21am

re: #110 jayjaybear

I’m half-surprised Fry didn’t shoot them both in the back as traitors. That boy is seriously bent, probably more than any of the others, including Anderson.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends with him killing himself after the other three leave.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:21:55am

re: #114 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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I really hope he doesn’t get attacked over this but nothing surprises me anymore in politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:22:30am
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:23:12am

Odds on how long before Fry loses his shit?

He’s on about Obamacare now.

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KGxvi  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:24:05am

I’m always amazed by the various breeds of wingnuts we stumble across. The COME AND TAKE IT breed (scientific name: wingnutis moron label) is fun because they are equally surprised when the government doesn’t come and take it (Jade Helm) and when they do (Oregon).

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:24:33am

re: #114 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I can’t go to the link in the first tweet, because I can’t go to twitter. What does it say?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:25:12am
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bubba zanetti  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:25:36am
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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:25:38am

re: #122 Belafon

I can’t go to the link in the first tweet, because I can’t go to twitter. What does it say?

Basically John Lewis saying that Bernie Sanders wasn’t a feature in the Civil Rights movement, which is a) true and b) a pretty obvious sign of Clinton campaign panic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:26:20am
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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:28:03am

re: #125 iossarian

b) a pretty obvious sign of Clinton campaign panic.

How so? I caught the news this morning and they played a clip of Sanders talking about his record on civil rights. He knows he’s seriously behind in NV and SC and that it’s with minority groups.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:28:21am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:28:33am

Yet, these clowns can’t seem to grasp it

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:28:37am

I just got the stream back. Kris Anne still is yammering?

I would have disbarred her for being annoying.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:29:09am

re: #127 Belafon

How so? I caught the news this morning and they played a clip of Sanders talking about his record on civil rights. He knows he’s seriously behind in NV and SC and that it’s with minority groups.

It’s something that has gotten ignored. It’s true that Clinton struggles with younger voters but I think his struggles with minority voters are more of a problem given their reliability as voters.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:29:20am

re: #127 Belafon

How so? I caught the news this morning and they played a clip of Sanders talking about his record on civil rights. He knows he’s seriously behind in NV and SC and that it’s with minority groups.

Basically he was asked if he had met, or run into Sanders during events, marches, ect. He said no, never met him, but I did meet Hillary Clinton.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:29:29am

re: #129 FormerDirtDart

Yet, these clowns can’t seem to grasp it

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I have read it, it says you’re a jackass.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:30:54am
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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:31:04am

re: #127 Belafon

How so? I caught the news this morning and they played a clip of Sanders talking about his record on civil rights. He knows he’s seriously behind in NV and SC and that it’s with minority groups.

To be fair, Lewis did say this in the context of the Congressional Black Caucus’s endorsement of Clinton. On the other hand, why mention Sanders at all, other than to say they prefer Hillary?

Maybe I’m reading too much into the Iowa-NH results. It becomes too easy to interpret everything as reaction to recent events.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:32:11am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

It’s something that has gotten ignored. It’s true that Clinton struggles with younger voters but I think his struggles with minority voters are more of a problem given their reliability as voters.

And this will hark back to 2008. Obama struggled with whites compared to Clinton during the primaries, but most of the Democrats showed up when it came time to choose the president.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:32:53am

Earth to Kris Anne: For the love of God, shut up!

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:33:12am

I don’t think that Bernie Sanders would be a bad President for black people in this country, and he does need to reach out to the Black Community. But right now, it seems that outreach is forced and not genuine. That doesn’t mean he is a bad guy, but just let it go a little bit more natural. Accept that Hillary Clinton was there in the Black community before you, and just work hard from this point on.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:33:17am

re: #136 Belafon

And this will hark back to 2008. Obama struggled with whites compared to Clinton during the primaries, but most of the Democrats showed up when it came time to choose the president.

Especially working class whites.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:33:18am
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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:33:24am

re: #135 iossarian

To be fair, Lewis did say this in the context of the Congressional Black Caucus’s endorsement of Clinton. On the other hand, why mention Sanders at all, other than to say they prefer Hillary?

Maybe I’m reading too much into the Iowa-NH results. It becomes too easy to interpret everything as reaction to recent events.

In 2008, Obama lost NH. I’m pretty sure Clinton remembers how her win there helped her later.

Edited because I originally put Iowa instead of NH.

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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:33:51am

re: #137 makeitstop

Earth to Kris Anne: For the love of God, shut up!

This is never going to end, is it?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:33:58am

re: #141 Belafon

In 2008, Obama lost Iowa. I’m pretty sure Clinton remembers how her win there helped her later.

Obama won Iowa and lost New Hampshire.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:34:21am

re: #114 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Gah! The Bernie supporters show their true colors in that first tweet of Gus’.

I have a feeling House Rep John Lewis can handle the cries of the Bernie supporters.

I hate to see this all get ugly, but I have a feeling it is going to get ugly.

I hope it doesn’t begin to have any effect on the good members here at LGF. I likes everyone.

By the way…has Dark_Falcon been around? Have not seen any comments for days. I hope his health is okay, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:34:31am
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:34:32am

The only voice you hear is the one that is yapping inside your mind.

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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:34:37am

re: #138 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I don’t think that Bernie Sanders would be a bad President for black people in this country, and he does need to reach out to the Black Community. But right now, it seems that outreach is forced and not genuine. That doesn’t mean he is a bad guy, but just let it go a little bit more natural. Accept that Hillary Clinton was there in the Black community before you, and just work hard from this point on.

I think that’s fair. It’s also pretty likely that Clinton will be the nominee.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:12am

re: #54 Le Lapin Tueur

Kickstarter card game idea…

More like a Bingo card…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:15am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Obama won Iowa and lost New Hampshire.

Yeah, I caught that when I clicked post. I fixed it. Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:19am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:21am

re: #144 ObserverArt

Gah! The Bernie supporters show their true colors in that first tweet of Gus’.

I have a feeling House Rep John Lewis can handle the cries of the Bernie supporters.

I hate to see this all get ugly, but I have a feeling it is going to get ugly.

I hope it doesn’t begin to have any effect on the good members here at LGF. I likes everyone.

By the way…has Dark_Falcon been around? Have not seen any comments for days. I hope his health is okay, etc.

Of course Lewis can handle it. He handled the bigoted Southern police departments of the 60’s. Yeah I’ve wondered about DF too. I hope he’s doing well. I disagree like hell with the guy but I have no ill will towards him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:35am

re: #149 Belafon

Yeah, I caught that when I clicked post. I fixed it. Thanks.

No sweat.

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No Country For Old Haters  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:50am

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:51am

re: #142 WhatEVs

This is never going to end, is it?

Feels like it.

This Kris Anne woman really thinks she’s the smartest person in the room.

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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:35:59am

Maybe if they play the Battle Hymn of the Republic they will walk out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:36:22am
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:36:31am

Bagpipes? Shoot me now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:36:56am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:37:11am

re: #157 WhatEVs

Bagpipes? Shoot me now.

Fookin’ really?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:37:27am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:37:36am

Are they singing a song about guns?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:37:55am

Bagpipes = Braveheart

Keep up folks!

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:37:56am

re: #157 WhatEVs

Bagpipes? Shoot me now.

It had better be Peter Capaldi trying to charm the snakes.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:38:00am

Ooh, bad music to go along with the bad rhetoric.

Longest bad SNL skit ever.

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gwangung  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:38:12am

re: #138 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I don’t think that Bernie Sanders would be a bad President for black people in this country, and he does need to reach out to the Black Community. But right now, it seems that outreach is forced and not genuine. That doesn’t mean he is a bad guy, but just let it go a little bit more natural. Accept that Hillary Clinton was there in the Black community before you, and just work hard from this point on.

Yeah, a little humility wouldn’t hurt. You know you have to play catch up, and it’s no sin to admit that; in fact, folks will sense the genuineness about it.

Instead, you had the disaster of yesterday’s “black outreach” effort and what’s apparently the total ignoring of black media.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:38:17am

BAGPIPES NOOOOO

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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:38:37am

re: #144 ObserverArt

I hate to see this all get ugly, but I have a feeling it is going to get ugly.

This is where I think that the Democrats in general can do themselves a favor by choosing their words very carefully. I don’t find much fault with what Lewis said, but on the other hand, he could also have answered that question with something along the lines of “we’re here to talk about Hillary Clinton and what she can do for the black community, lots of people were engaged in the Civil Rights movement…” or some such.

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stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:38:37am

Please don’t tell me they’re playing ‘Amazing Grace’.

That was my dad’s favorite song.

For the three days before he died.

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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:38:46am

Now the supposed walk out.

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Reckless Disregard  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:39:25am

Bagpipes? I guess the Braveheart mention last night has come full circle.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:39:59am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bagpipes = Braveheart

Keep up folks!

Ah of course.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:40:00am

re: #166 Charles Johnson

BAGPIPES NOOOOO

I love bagpipes. I don’t love it when they are abused by these idiots.

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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:40:05am

Maybe they want to be honorary Scots Guard as well as Marines.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:40:34am
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:40:45am

Oy. Get on with it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:41:00am

re: #173 iossarian

Maybe they want to be honorary Scots Guard as well as Marines.

The 42nd Highlanders would have shot them and laughed as they downed a pint or three of stout.

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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:41:16am

“Put your phone in your pocket. Oh, wait, don’t put your hands near your pocket.” Jeebus.

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Nojay UK  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:41:17am

re: #163 Belafon

It had better be Peter Capaldi trying to charm the snakes.

Ken Russell reference for the win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:41:40am

no shit, David

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:41:42am

re: #172 Aunty Entity Dragon

I love bagpipes. I don’t love it when they are abused by these idiots.

Yeah I hate how right wing fuckers hijack Celtic interests. Fuck em. Still love the harp and happy to be descended from Connemara.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:42:21am

Jesus, will you hang up on this self-aggrandizing motormouth already?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:42:49am

Kris Anne hijacked the livestream again. Somebody shove a tomato in her mouth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:43:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:44:03am
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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:44:20am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:44:26am

Although I root for the Scots in Braveheart, I can’t help but to be amused by that the only real difference between Longshanks and The Bruce is nationality really.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:44:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:45:20am
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WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:45:26am

I knew it. David Fry is going to go nuts.

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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:45:46am

Oh, FFS! David won’t come out.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:46:02am

I’m still worried Fry is going to do something stupid. I hope he’s well-covered.

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stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:46:07am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

While this stuff is happening, KrisAnne wants to continue lecturing her bullshit.

It’s really only fitting that it ends this way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:46:13am

Festivus is over, David

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:46:25am

Just tell David if he comes out, his parents will only ground him from the computer for a couple weeks.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:46:33am

re: #190 WhatEVs

I knew it. David Fry is going to go nuts.

He started out that way.

This whole episode was all about talking the suicidal maniacs out of killing themselves.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:46:42am

I fucking knew it

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KerFuFFler  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:46:42am

Did Banta come out too, or just the Andersons?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:47:11am

re: #198 KerFuFFler

Did Banta come out too, or just the Andersons?

Banta has surrendered

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:47:16am

re: #135 iossarian

To be fair, Lewis did say this in the context of the Congressional Black Caucus’s endorsement of Clinton. On the other hand, why mention Sanders at all, other than to say they prefer Hillary?

Maybe I’m reading too much into the Iowa-NH results. It becomes too easy to interpret everything as reaction to recent events.

Patience during American elections is always advised. It is way too easy to freak out early. And truthfully, this really is an unprecedented election so far. It will be easy to freak out.

Have some popcorn! Unlax.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:47:16am

re: #188 lawhawk

Bagpipes palette cleanser:

This one goes back a bit further….

ERIC BURDON & THE ANIMALS- “SKY PILOT” (LONG VERSION)

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:47:20am

re: #196 freetoken

He started out that way.

This whole episode was all about talking the suicidal maniacs out of killing themselves.

Aaaand the FBI snipers give him a long, lingering examination…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:47:42am

re: #100 freetoken

Graham - “It’s going to work out great”.

Sure… if “great” is a mental institution.

Make Occupying Great Again

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:48:27am
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Whack-A-Mole  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:48:32am

Fuck, he’s psyching himself up to finish this. Not good.

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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:48:39am

David is feeling suicidal. Great.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:48:39am

David Fry - ” I am feeling suicidal now.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:48:44am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:48:52am

Comment at Balloon Juice thinks Fry is going to suicide.

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Targetpractice  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:48:59am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Festivus is over, David

OFFS, toss a flashbang in there and drag his ass out.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:49:05am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

He decided to go there didn’t he? Sigh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:49:33am
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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:49:34am

Shoot Fry with a tranquilizing dart.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:49:41am

Move in and use tear gas, flashbangs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:49:49am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:49:58am

re: #213 Amory Blaine

Shoot Fry with a tranquilizing dart.

Those do not work fast enough.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:50:02am

The FBI ought to bring in a few hundred pounds of marijuana, light it up, and blow the smoke toward the compound.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:50:15am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Festivus is over, David

OK, President Obama and Congress have agree to give you all the federally owned land everywhere.

/

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:50:56am

Oh, boy…

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KingKenrod  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:51:00am

BONUS THEOLOGY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:51:15am

another accidental duplicate…

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:51:23am

O/T

The kids I have at the school where I am at today are frakking awesome. Quiet, do their work and not one whisper of a disciplinary issue these last two days. Great school!

(which is also how I am able to tune in from time to time today since the kids are working on their tablets and have music privileges. I have nothing to do except make sure nothing unexpected happens)

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:51:34am

re: #124 bubba zanetti

I’ve found this Conference Call useful at times.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:52:00am

These talk-show idiots are not so skilled with suicidal nuts.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:52:25am

Davy thinks he’s Jimmy Cagney in White Heat…

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:52:31am

Come out and you can visit Disney World. And get a free car. And a trip to Jamaica. And a membership to Wally World…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:52:38am
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ramex  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:52:52am

re: #216 Aunty Entity Dragon

How about a heroin dart?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:53:07am
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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:53:08am

re: #157 WhatEVs

Bagpipes? Shoot me now.

Hey, welcome to America. Throw every damn cliche at it.

I said in the past thread…these idiots are replaying every wingnut theme they can remember. It shows how effective Rush, Glenn, FOX, Jones, Farrah, etc. have been at feeding them this crap for so many years.

Sure they are going to regurgitate it all back…

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:53:10am

re: #224 freetoken

These talk-show idiots are not so skilled with suicidal nuts.

For real. This kid is right on the edge right now.

Kris Anne talking down to him probably isn’t helping.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:53:32am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:53:33am

re: #225 Joe Bacon

Davy thinks he’s Jimmy Cagney in White Heat…

Bogart in High Sierra.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:53:37am
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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:53:45am

This is what Hillary faces:

Facebook Post

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thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:54:21am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Okay, I’ll put the blankets back up. Do you want a glass of warm milk?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:54:24am
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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:54:28am

re: #233 Aunty Entity Dragon

Bogart in High Sierra.

Pacino in Scarface.

Fry declares war. Not good.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:54:30am

re: #235 freetoken

Flagboating!

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:54:45am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:54:46am

re: #228 ramex

How about a heroin dart?

Get some scopolamine and a big fan. That stuff is effective very quickly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:55:03am

re: #235 freetoken

This is what Hillary faces:

[Embedded content]

And that’s why I have sympathy for her. She puts up with so much shit compared to the others because of who she is and that’s wrong.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:55:17am

ROMAN RED

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:55:34am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

This is my fort!
There are many others like it but this one is mine!
My fort is my life!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:55:34am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:55:54am
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jayjaybear  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:05am

re: #235 freetoken

God, I hate flag fetishism. Some people are as bad about it with the US flag as some others are with the Confederate flag.

It’s a freaking piece of CLOTH. The “Flag Code” isn’t enforceable. I’m more worried about the huge level of disrespect of what the flag STANDS FOR by people who go nutshit over how the symbol is treated than I am by someone not following the Flag Code to the letter.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:05am

Here’s some scripture for David. Fuck off.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:07am

“TOP OF THE WORLD, MA!”…

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iossarian  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:09am

BREAKING: VETS INVESTIGATE ALL AMERICANS WHO WEAR STARS AND STRIPES T-SHIRTS

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:29am

I was hoping it would all be over and I could go to sleep. But it’s 2 am here and I’m crashing. Hope Fry and the FBI do the right things.

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Whack-A-Mole  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:34am

If this ends as badly as it looks like it is going to, I hope all of these fucking enabling, encouraging, attention-seeking scumbags like Fiore and Seim and the rest take a good hard look at themselves and recoil at the rotten, putrid souls they see.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:42am

Yeah, this is going to end with dead idiot kid.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:43am

re: #247 jayjaybear

God, I hate flag fetishism. Some people are as bad about it with the US flag as some others are with the Confederate flag.

It’s a freaking piece of CLOTH. The “Flag Code” isn’t enforceable. I’m more worried about the huge level of disrespect of what the flag STANDS FOR by people who go nutshit over how the symbol is treated than I am by someone not following the Flag Code to the letter.

Well said. I couldn’t say it better myself.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:50am

re: #185 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Putin: “What? Armed gangsters have taken over a federal park facility? They make demands?”
Lackey: “Da, that is correct, comrade, er, Mr. President.”
Putin: “Do they have hostages?”
Lackey: “No, com-, Mr. President.”
Putin: “Foreign media with them?”
Lackey: “No, Mr. President.”
Putin: “Are the facilities valuable?”
Lackey: “No, Mr. President. Just some out-buildings and a small house.”
Putin: “Good, call Long Range Aviation. They will know what to do.”
Lackey: “Yes, excellent call, sir. It shouldn’t take more than 5 or 6 of their TU-160s to get the job done.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:56:55am

Now he’s saying he doesn’t want his tax money to pay for abortion.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:57:12am

re: #249 Joe Bacon

“TOP OF THE WORLD, MA!”…

I did it ma! Top of the World!

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:57:21am

re: #253 Aunty Entity Dragon

Yeah, this is going to end with dead idiot kid.

Really starting to look like it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:57:32am

re: #252 Whack-A-Mole

If this ends as badly as it looks like it is going to, I hope all of these fucking enabling, encouraging, attention-seeking scumbags like Fiore and Seim and the rest take a good hard look at themselves and recoil at the rotten, putrid souls they see.

Self awareness is not what they do when Big Gubmint and ‘Obummer’ are available to blame.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:57:36am

re: #251 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I was hoping it would all be over and I could go to sleep. But it’s 2 am here and I’m crashing. Hope Fry and the FBI do the right things.

I wonder how people from other countries view this stuff. Because if this were the PRC, these guys would have been taken down weeks ago.

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stpaulbear  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:57:48am

re: #252 Whack-A-Mole

If this ends as badly as it looks like it is going to, I hope all of these fucking enabling, encouraging, attention-seeking scumbags like Fiore and Seim and the rest take a good hard look at themselves and recoil at the rotten, putrid souls they see.

Ha. They’ll blame the feds. It’s their only thing.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:57:49am

re: #253 Aunty Entity Dragon

Yeah, this is going to end with dead idiot kid.

He is not a kid. He is 27 years old.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:57:49am
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Egregious Philbin  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:58:09am

Seriously..they keep lowering the bar for insanity.

No one will miss them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:58:12am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Now he’s saying he doesn’t want his tax money to pay for abortion.

Not gonna be an issue for him for the foreseeable future.

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:58:16am

re: #250 iossarian

BREAKING: VETS INVESTIGATE ALL AMERICANS WHO WEAR STARS AND STRIPES T-SHIRTS

Flag headbands, flag vests, flag mud flaps, flag pants, and a million others proudly worn and used by the idiots who would buy this.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:58:34am

re: #262 20Hz

He is not a kid. He is 27 years old.

Why did I think he was younger. Yeah not a kid at all.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:58:53am
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:59:01am

re: #253 Aunty Entity Dragon

Yeah, this is going to end with dead idiot kid.

I hope they can wait him out, because he can’t stay awake by himself forever.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:59:04am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Why did I think he was younger. Yeah not a kid at all.

I thought he was younger also.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:59:11am

re: #262 20Hz

He is not a kid. He is 27 years old.

Same age as Chuck?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:59:17am

re: #268 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Well then.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:59:43am

Can anyone explain the Hyde Amendment to this idiot?

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:59:55am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Just tell David if he comes out, his parents will only ground him from the computer for a couple weeks.

Good one Happy!

Fry needs to rejoin the real world.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 9:59:58am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Now he’s saying he doesn’t want his tax money to pay for abortion.

Every goddamned right wing trope. Easily led by the nose.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:00:06am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’ve been shouting about your ‘grievances’ for a month, David. We’ve heard them over and over and over.

We’re just not going to implement them. ‘Heard’ and ‘Implement’ are totally different words with totally different meanings. A concept you don’t seem to understand.

Although that’s not surprising.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:00:07am

re: #269 Big Beautiful Door

I hope they can wait him out, because he can’t stay awake by himself forever.

Either he’ll shoot himself or it’ll be suicide by cop.

Sad.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:00:23am

re: #273 Big Beautiful Door

Can anyone explain the Hyde Amendment to this idiot?

I can try. From what I understand, it prohibits federal funding of abortion.

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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:00:26am

The morons on the webcast are not helping matters at all. He says he doesn’t know them. Ugh.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:00:37am

Still making demands. Good God.

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JDRhoades  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:03am

re: #273 Big Beautiful Door

Can anyone explain the Hyde Amendment to this idiot?

No.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:06am

re: #228 ramex

Demerol and Valium-but it needs to hit a vein to take quickly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:14am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:14am

So how come conservatives rag on millennials when we want things like more affordable tuition but not when they engage in an armed stand off with the government?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:34am

re: #270 Aunty Entity Dragon

I thought he was younger also.

Delayed adulthood is a feature of this generation. I’m not being snarky - it’s been studied.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:38am

re: #257 Dr Lizardo

I am Invincible!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:01:59am
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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:02:26am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

Either he’ll shoot himself or it’ll be suicide by cop.

Sad.

They supposedly loaded their weapons into a car outside the camp last night.

Unless he held on to one.

Even Fry is fed up with Kris Anne’s yammering.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:02:27am

I don’t have audio here since I am keeping the classroom quiet…but damn. This reminds me of the SLA shootout in Los Angeles back in the early 70’s where it was all live on local news.

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:02:35am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

And I’ll bet he never got a Christmas card from her either…….

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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:03:02am

Oh noez!! The FBI didn’t take the blue m&m’s out of the bowl. Fry has a sad.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:03:27am

Fry was promised he’d be part of something bigger than his current crappy life, and then life interfered and he came to the realization that his life is now going to be worse than his current crappy one.

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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:03:29am

Is that Kris Anne he’s yelling at?

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:03:31am

Kris Anne calls Fry a coward. Good move.
///

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:03:43am

They need a suicide hotline professional. This will not end well. His mind is made up.

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rhuarc  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:03:44am

I have to shut this off. This guy is ridiculous and I feel my brain cells dying one by one listening to his idiotic rambling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:03:51am
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withak  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:04:05am

If Fry decides he wants to die, Fiore and Hall should think long and hard about how their actions might have influenced his decision.

But they won’t do that; they’ll just call him a martyr and use him to further their own purposes.

Vultures.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:04:39am

why, yes.
Yes she does.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:05:11am

This last guy is going to try for the Finicium last stand BS. Suicide by cop. But it looks like the FBI is all out of martyr cookies.

And as Stonekettle notes, there’s a reason so many of the sovereign citizens oppose mental health screening for firearms ownership - too many of them wouldn’t pass because they’re mentally unstable, unhinged, suicidal, or otherwise a threat to themselves or others around them.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:05:35am

re: #247 jayjaybear

God, I hate flag fetishism. Some people are as bad about it with the US flag as some others are with the Confederate flag.

It’s a freaking piece of CLOTH. The “Flag Code” isn’t enforceable. I’m more worried about the huge level of disrespect of what the flag STANDS FOR by people who go nutshit over how the symbol is treated than I am by someone not following the Flag Code to the letter.

The flag is a symbol of the American faith (as opposed to the American nation). To the faithful ‘disrespecting the flag’ is the same as spitting on God.

So they lose their shit.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:05:41am
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Bass Reeves  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:05:44am

re: #285 Pawn of the Oppressor

It’s funny the shade thrown towards millennials, like they raised themselves or something and aren’t the product of the world they were born into.

They need to stop trying to puff up his ego and aim more towards how he’s actively harming the cause he’s trying to support. Stop talking bravery and start talking futility. He’s already in a unstable emotional state, a *skilled* negotiator could take him to the point where he realizes even suicide won’t be a statement of anything, just and end to his journey. And we won’t care.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:05:46am

re: #235 freetoken

This is what Hillary faces:

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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:05:51am

I’m willing to bet every goddamned nickle Fry ever made will not pay for the resources his little camping trip has and will cost taxpayers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:06:03am
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CleverToad  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:06:08am

re: #168 stpaulbear

Please don’t tell me they’re playing ‘Amazing Grace’.

That was my dad’s favorite song.

{{sympathies for the memories}}

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:06:42am

re: #250 iossarian

BREAKING: VETS INVESTIGATE ALL AMERICANS WHO WEAR STARS AND STRIPES T-SHIRTS

Except the conservative ones. It’s okay then.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:06:44am

He wants to opt out of paying taxes? Just walk out and let them take your ass to prison. QED.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:07:29am

re: #305 Eventual Carrion

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Don’t forget she also blamed the President for her son being a domestic abuser. If I were a veteran, that kind of talk would infuriate me because for every one tTrack Palin who abuses their SO, there are literally millions who do NOT.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:07:29am

re: #310 makeitstop

He wants to opt out of paying taxes? Just walk out and let them take your ass to prison. QED.

Is there withholding from prison wages?

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dharmamark  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:07:58am

re: #266 nines09

Flag headbands, flag vests, flag mud flaps, flag pants, and a million others proudly worn by the idiots who would buy this.

What about my Captain America t-shirt?

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KerFuFFler  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:08:02am

Too bad Fry is likely going to end up dead. I am so happy that Cliven, Cooper, Banta and the Andersons are in custody, but if Fry dies my cheerful reaction to the other arrests may come off as inappropriate:

Video

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:08:03am

re: #310 makeitstop

He wants to opt out of paying taxes? Just walk out and let them take your ass to prison. QED.

I think he’s seen Armageddon too many times.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:08:13am

… now lying about Finnicum…

These nutters ought to be charged for assisting a suicide.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:08:28am

Man, he’s given up already. And these assholes are going to talk him into getting himself killed.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:08:46am
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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:08:52am

re: #313 dharmamark

What about my Captain America t-shirt?

Exactly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:16am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:24am

re: #317 makeitstop

Man, he’s given up already. And these assholes are going to talk him into getting himself killed.

They want another martyr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:36am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:43am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:43am

Actually, now would be the time for a fentanyl flood. His brain is so addled he wouldn’t be able to tell if his own mind has snapped or not.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:50am

re: #247 jayjaybear

God, I hate flag fetishism. Some people are as bad about it with the US flag as some others are with the Confederate flag.

It’s a freaking piece of CLOTH. The “Flag Code” isn’t enforceable. I’m more worried about the huge level of disrespect of what the flag STANDS FOR by people who go nutshit over how the symbol is treated than I am by someone not following the Flag Code to the letter.

Just another sign of fascist thinking. Symbols are important you know.

I got in a huge argument with my older block headed brother once about flag burning back in the 80s when it was a big thing.

To put an end to it I asked him does the flag represent freedom or does burning it?

He gave me that ‘whut’ look.

Then I said, if you lost your wedding ring, is your marriage over or are you still married?

I think he is still trying to figure it out.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:50am

re: #318 Charles Johnson

The ladies he knocked up?

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Bass Reeves  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:09:54am

HAHAHAH. I won’t be forced to pay for my existence!

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piratedan  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:10:04am

re: #318 Charles Johnson

with bitcoins, I presume…..

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:10:26am
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:10:34am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh my God.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:10:50am
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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:11:15am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

They want another martyr.

If you think for a minute they would not embrace his suicide and milk it for every damn cent to sell their sedition to the other lost souls….He’s better dead to them.

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withak  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:11:17am

re: #329 The Vicious Babushka

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You don’t have an income when you’re in prison, David. I don’t think your taxes will be paying for much of anything.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:11:24am

23 hour a day lockdown in a solitary cell in a supermax, David. You will be safe.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:11:30am
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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:11:44am

re: #262 20Hz

He is not a kid. He is 27 years old.

With the brain of a 12 year old. You be the judge.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:11:51am

re: #331 FormerDirtDart

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I don’t think it ever was for Fry.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:12:37am

I don’t want any of them dead.

And I don’t want someone’s suicide live-streamed on the Internet.

I am just hoping for a good resolution at this point.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:12:38am

re: #332 nines09

If you think for a minute they would not embrace his suicide and milk it for every damn cent to sell their sedition to the other lost souls….He’s better dead to them.

Exactomundo.

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Skip Intro  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:12:49am

Time for a crass political headline.

Jeb Bush says he cheered against Panthers ‘because Peyton Manning wrote me a check’

sanluisobispo.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:13:34am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:13:42am

re: #304 Bass Reeves

I’m not blaming him entirely. I’ve been there myself. I know the anger and the hopelessness and the cynicism and isolation well, watching everything crumble and finding everything you were raised to strive for is unattainable. I dropped out, and boomeranged home, too.

But at some point you have to realize that cynicism is self-defeating and go outside for fresh air. Lots of people, especially men with missing or bewildered parents, do not. Hence, the news.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:13:56am

re: #336 ObserverArt

With the brain of a 12 year old. You be the judge.

He is still a 27-year-old. He is a man and he needs to take responsibility for what he has done and is doing, that is if he doesn’t die first.

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:13:59am

re: #340 Skip Intro

Time for a crass political headline.

Jeb Bush says he cheered against Panthers ‘because Peyton Manning wrote me a check’

sanluisobispo.com

And how would this be different than every other thing he has done in his addled sheltered life?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:14:01am

Pretty sure this is what is popularly known as a psychotic break.
David has had mental issues throughout the entire occupation and not one of the Bundy gang did a thing to get him out of there earlier.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:14:09am
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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:14:12am

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

Fry rants about anti-Muslim prejudice. He is all over the map. I think he is very afraid.

Bingo. Scared out of his mind.

Kris Anne making promises now. Millions of journalists. Go ahead, confuse him even further.

And it boils down to a fear of prison rape, from the sound of it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:14:28am

re: #332 nines09

If you think for a minute they would not embrace his suicide and milk it for every damn cent to sell their sedition to the other lost souls….He’s better dead to them.

Surrendered and in custody, he’s a mentally unhinged loser whose rantings make the whole movement look bad. Killed by cops, he’s a martyr to the cause. Not sure which way it goes if he shoots himself.

I suspect the FBI is under orders not to shoot him under practically any circumstances.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:14:39am

Just think, Beck, Rush, and McConnell, here’s the end result of all of the things you’ve said over the years. Here’s a true believer.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:14:50am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

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This is going to be used in LE training for the next 50 years on good and horribly bad techniques.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:14:55am

Jesus took Mary Magdelin to the clinic on his dinosaur.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:15:24am

re: #340 Skip Intro

Time for a crass political headline.

Jeb Bush says he cheered against Panthers ‘because Peyton Manning wrote me a check’

sanluisobispo.com

Rubio cheered against whoever Obama was rooting for. Trump probably when he found out Carolina’s coach is named Rivera wanted to deport him.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:15:38am

re: #343 20Hz

He is still a 27-year-old. He is a man and he needs to take responsibility for what he has done and is doing, that is if he doesn’t die first.

I’m afraid to the wingnuts freedom means ‘freedom from responsibility’. But it just doesn’t work that way.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:15:39am
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EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:15:55am

I would be a bad choice for the person Fry is talking so, since I’d say something like this:

This is what happens when you binge on Fox News and hate radio while sniffing the glue, go online to find like-minded jackasses, and then engage in seditious fuckwittery that will get you into serious trouble.

Meanwhile, the enablers of this crap in the RW noise machine just use your fate as fuel for their propaganda.

How does it feel to be so thoroughly used?

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:16:02am

re: #346 Charles Johnson

And this is why prison rape jokes are bad. So many people take them seriously.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:16:32am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:16:44am

re: #343 20Hz

He is still a 27-year-old. He is a man and he needs to take responsibility for what he has done and is doing, that is if he doesn’t die first.

I’m pretty sure that some therapy and maybe medication would be required before he’s at the point where that’s possible.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:16:59am

re: #342 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’m not blaming him entirely. I’ve been there myself. I know the anger and the hopelessness and the cynicism and isolation well, watching everything crumble and finding everything you were raised to strive for is unattainable. I dropped out, and boomeranged home, too.

But at some point you have to realize that cynicism is self-defeating and go outside for fresh air. Lots of people, especially men with missing or bewildered parents, do not. Hence, the news.

Well speaking as a 28 year old. I do feel a lot of frustration myself. I’ve got a BA and even a paralegal certificate. Now that said I express my frustrations in uh very different ways than young Fry here.

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:02am

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

Surrendered and in custody, he’s a mentally unhinged loser whose rantings make the whole movement look bad. Killed by cops, he’s a martyr to the cause. Not sure which way it goes if he shoots himself.

I suspect the FBI is under orders not to shoot him under practically any circumstances.

His suicide would be anyone but his fault. He’s nucking futs and his little band of seditious inbreds knew that. He’s just a tool, and they could care less about him alive. He’s their possible future bookend to the other self destroyed mental patient.

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:05am

re: #354 The Vicious Babushka

He doesn’t.

And he belongs in a padded cell.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:17am

Going to prison is scary. I went to a prison for a hearing, just inside to the conference room, and I was seriously creeped out.

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Lidane  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:20am

Is it bad that David Fry’s fears of being raped in prison remind me of the Tom DuBois character on The Boondocks?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:37am

re: #356 Belafon

And this is why prison rape jokes are bad. So many people take them seriously.

Actually wrote a little about that in my dramatic monologue. So many people think prison rape is a funny thing and ti’s not.

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:38am

re: #351 Amory Blaine

Jesus took Mary Magdelin to the clinic on his dinosaur.

Vinegar douches?

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:48am

Fuck. Gun to his head.

Fuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:17:49am
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Bass Reeves  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:18:06am

re: #350 Aunty Entity Dragon

Letting other unhinged nutjobs talk down a super unhinged nutjob should probably go down in the ‘bad’ category. Darren Brown could have walked the whole lot out inside of 20 minutes a full month ago. The two people talking about praying and God are just giving him psychological support that makes him seem bigger than he is. They are going about this the entirely wrong way. They need to minimize his importance, not set him at the centerpiece of a GAWD play.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:19:11am
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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:19:23am

re: #314 KerFuFFler

Too bad Fry is likely going to end up dead. I am so happy that Cliven, Cooper, Banta and the Andersons are in custody, but if Fry dies my cheerful reaction to the other arrests may come off as inappropriate:

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You shouldn’t feel that way, really. This guy is nuts. He has been destructive and out of control since day 1.

No one should blame themselves or feel bad, he is doing this to himself.

The bad part is that everyone gets to view it.

One of the reasons I am not listening to any feeds, watching any video. I’m only observing this through the reactions of the lizards.

If this drives anyone nuts…turn it all off.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:19:45am

re: #347 makeitstop

And it boils down to a fear of prison rape, from the sound of it.

Yeah, weeks (?) ago David was ranting about not going to prison because “weird stuff” happens there. He said it over and over and always just said “weird stuff”———couldn’t even bring himself to say what it was he feared. Like a lot of conservatives I suspect he thinks about gay sex an awful lot….

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:19:58am

This is what you get after 400 years of religious extremism being programmed into an unstable young person’s mind.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:20:13am
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thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:20:16am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Well speaking as a 28 year old. I do feel a lot of frustration myself. I’ve got a BA and even a paralegal certificate. Now that said I express my frustrations in uh very different ways than young Fry here.

There’s healthy ways to be frustrated. Threatening suicide is not one of them. Believe me, I’ve been there and done that.

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EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:20:21am

re: #370 ObserverArt

I’m also not going to be a spectator to this nonsense. Second hand via the comments here is as close as I want to get.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:20:39am

re: #375 EPR-radar

I’m also not going to be a spectator to this nonsense. Second hand via the comments here is as close as I want to get.

Same here.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:21:23am

re: #374 thedopefishlives

There’s healthy ways to be frustrated. Threatening suicide is not one of them. Believe me, I’ve been there and done that.

I’ve been on that end before too. Of course it was nothing like this. Don’t get me wrong no sympathy for Fry but I have more anger for the Bundys, Fiore, etc who take advantage of people who are frustrated,

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Charles Johnson  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:21:31am

I’m starting to get the really bad feeling he’s going to kill himself.

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withak  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:22:00am

re: #375 EPR-radar

I’m also not going to be a spectator to this nonsense. Second hand via the comments here is as close as I want to get.

Yeah, I haven’t listened to a second of the stream. Reading second-hand accounts is spooky enough.

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philosophus invidius  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:22:03am

re: #325 ObserverArt

When running for Senate the first time, Hillary came out in favor of a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:22:10am

I hope he doesn’t kill himself. I think he needs help and time away from right wing propaganda.

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dharmamark  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:22:17am

re: #344 nines09

And how would this be different than every other thing he has done in his addled sheltered life?

He probably thought they were the Black Panthers…

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:22:35am

re: #378 Charles Johnson

I’m starting to get the really bad feeling he’s going to kill himself.

Me, too.

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EPR-radar  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:22:36am

re: #378 Charles Johnson

I’m starting to get the really bad feeling he’s going to kill himself.

If he does, some of the responsibility for that should fall on his fellow travelers and enablers, but it won’t. It never does.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:04am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

I hope he doesn’t kill himself. I think he needs help and time away from right wing propaganda.

It worked for people like me. Just gotta get out from under the bubble and find a friend you can rely on to help.

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:07am

re: #382 dharmamark

He probably thought they were the Black Panthers…

He saw $$$$$$$$$

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:10am

Okay, I may be the coldest mofo who ever lived, but honestly at this point, I’m thinking the best thing is to cut off his connection to everyone but the FBI and tell him, “You want to kill yourself, fine. Go ahead. But you’re not going to have an audience, and you’re not going to take anyone else with you, and we’re not going to do it for you. Make a good choice.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:12am

re: #384 EPR-radar

If he does, some of the responsibility for that should fall on his fellow travelers and enablers, but it won’t. It never does.

Exactly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:26am
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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:37am

re: #358 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m pretty sure that some therapy and maybe medication would be required before he’s at the point where that’s possible.

I agree.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:52am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Getting help in prison? I suppose its not impossible.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:58am

re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, I may be the coldest mofo who ever lived, but honestly at this point, I’m thinking the best thing is to cut off his connection to everyone but the FBI and tell him, “You want to kill yourself, fine. Go ahead. But you’re not going to have an audience, and you’re not going to take anyone else with you, and we’re not going to do it for you. Make a good choice.”

I think they do need to cut the other lines at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:23:59am

re: #385 thedopefishlives

It worked for people like me. Just gotta get out from under the bubble and find a friend you can rely on to help.

Right and he obviously needs to spend sometime behind bars but I don’t want him dead or anything like that. He’s still fairly young. Maybe he can learn that Bundy, Fiore, and the others don’t give a shit about him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:24:10am

re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d be fine with them cutting his connection to everyone other than the FBI and then getting someone actually trained in dealing with suicidal people talking to him.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:24:22am
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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:24:25am

Is David Fry even religious? It doesn’t seem that way.

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Bass Reeves  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:24:37am

Stop trying to give this guy courage. It takes more courage to martyr yourself than it does to give up.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:25:16am

re: #391 Amory Blaine

Getting help in prison? I suppose its not impossible.

I don’t see why not. I don’t know anything about his educational background or anything like that but I think he’d get help alone by being isolated from right wign propaganda.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:25:31am

re: #396 Sionainn

Is David Fry even religious? It doesn’t seem that way.

I don’t think so.

Of course, that’s how a lot of the other nutjobs involved here think, and the idea that someone isn’t religious just doesn’t process.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:25:51am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart

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Enjoy prison Cliven.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:25:58am

re: #343 20Hz

He is still a 27-year-old. He is a man and he needs to take responsibility for what he has done and is doing, that is if he doesn’t die first.

A rational person might. This guy is obviously not being rational. I wasn’t joking about being 12 years old. He may have the body of a 27 year old, but not the mind.

You have heard of mental disabilities. An undeveloped brain is one of them. Mental capacity can be judged. I bet David would meet some of the tests.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:26:01am

Yelling that they took his weed.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:26:02am

Cleveland tried to force Tamir Rice’s family to pay for his ambulance

On Thursday, Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson apologized for the “mistake,” saying it should never have happened.

He added that the city would review the bill to see if any city employees were negligent in sending it before considering how they would be disciplined, if at all.

The claim came less than two months after the two Cleveland Police officers involved in Rice’s shooting death were cleared of any charges in connection with the boy’s death.

HOw is your day so far?

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freetoken  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:26:19am

re: #395 FormerDirtDart

Cliven is so old that he’ll probably die before the trial is completed.

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20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:26:23am

re: #396 Sionainn

Is David Fry even religious? It doesn’t seem that way.

He is religious, he is a Messianic “Jew.”

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:26:32am

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

That’s a combination of charges from last year, plus a few new ones. I’d say that would also inform on the superseding indictments that are likely to head the way of the rest of the Bundy militia nuts.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:26:42am

re: #402 makeitstop

Yelling that he took his weed.

maybe he would surrender for a brownie.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:26:52am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

He’s a recruit for the Arian brotherhood.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:27:15am

re: #403 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Cleveland tried to force Tamir Rice’s family to pay for his ambulance

HOw is your day so far?

Saw that. Had better days I guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:27:25am

re: #407 Big Beautiful Door

maybe he would surrender for a brownie.

it was a pizza just a few minutes ago:

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Lidane  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:27:27am

I won’t listen to someone kill themselves.

It’s very sad that David Fry’s mind was so poisoned by the right-wing hate machine that he thinks this is his only option.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:27:37am

re: #408 Amory Blaine

He’s a recruit for the Arian brotherhood.

That’s true too. Prison could radicalize him even more.

413
blueraven  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:27:41am

re: #402 makeitstop

Yelling that he took his weed.

Give him his weed, if he will lay down his gun. I dont want this young man to die. He is sick.

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Sionainn  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:27:51am

re: #405 20Hz

He is religious, he is a Messianic Jew.

So, not the same as mainstream Christians or mainstream Jewish folks.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:27:56am

There are to damn many people talking AT him

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:28:04am

A proper facility could help him. His history is non-violent, as far as I know. He’d just end up talking politics with Slingblade.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:28:09am
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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:28:19am

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pizza delivered by that windbag? No deal!

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nines09  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:28:22am

re: #407 Big Beautiful Door

maybe he would surrender for a brownie.

“Got an Oz of oil and a vape pen out here for you…….”

420
Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:28:47am

re: #394 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’d be fine with them cutting his connection to everyone other than the FBI and then getting someone actually trained in dealing with suicidal people talking to him.

I’m beginning to lose patience with even that idea. Tamir Rice, John Crawford and others weren’t give 40 goddam days and a worldwide audience to try and get them to surrender, and they hadn’t done a god damned thing.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:28:48am

I’ve been steadfastly ignoring the world since I got back from Paradise.

Everytime I try to pay attention, I am disgusted. So I crawl back into my fiction hole. Been rewatching the BBC Mysteries.

Did you know they did a pre-quel to Inspector Morse, called Endeavor?

The young actor has very blue eyes.

Nice backstory.

422
Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:29:11am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

That’s true too. Prison could radicalize him even more.

He and the others may end up in AdSeg for being in an armed uprising.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:29:14am

re: #357 FormerDirtDart

KOIN News @KOINNews

Cliven Bundy charged with assault, conspiracy for 2014 standoff near his Nevada ranch

1:15 PM - 11 Feb 2016

BOOM!

There it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:29:25am
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Amory Blaine  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:29:51am

This is america people. Prison isn’t designed to help people get better. Yeah I’m aware there’s a success story or two but get real.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:30:07am

re: #411 Lidane

I won’t listen to someone kill themselves.

It’s very sad that David Fry’s mind was so poisoned by the right-wing hate machine that he thinks this is his only option.

He’s all over the lawn, TBH. Sticking up for Muslims earlier, complaining that Ohio didn’t legalize weed, now saying he doesn’t even care about the Patriot movement.

But yeah. He’s been soaking in RW propaganda for a long time, and believes every bit of it in his heart.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:30:10am

Oh, there was a mention of Australians taking over Journalism in England in one of the Morse episodes …made me smile.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:30:17am

re: #420 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m beginning to lose patience with even that idea. Tamir Rice, John Crawford and others weren’t give 40 goddam days and a worldwide audience to try and get them to surrender, and they hadn’t done a god damned thing.

And we all agree that what happened to them was wrong.

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blueraven  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:30:40am

re: #420 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m beginning to lose patience with even that idea. Tamir Rice, John Crawford and others weren’t give 40 goddam days and a worldwide audience to try and get them to surrender, and they hadn’t done a god damned thing.

True, but all those wrongs don’t make another death right.

430
20Hz  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:30:46am

re: #401 ObserverArt

A rational person might. This guy is obviously not being rational. I wasn’t joking about being 12 years old. He may have the body of a 27 year old, but not the mind.

You have heard of mental disabilities. An undeveloped brain is one of them. Mental capacity can be judged. I bet David would meet some of the tests.

Perhaps. I am not a Dr.. But from the evidence I have seen thus far and my layman opinion , I agree with you. Unfortunately the law is not going to see him as his “mental” age, but his chronological age.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:32:08am

As far as Fry not being “Christian”, other Christian groups usually accept Messianic Judaism as a form of Christianity.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:32:51am

re: #420 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m beginning to lose patience with even that idea. Tamir Rice, John Crawford and others weren’t give 40 goddam days and a worldwide audience to try and get them to surrender, and they hadn’t done a god damned thing.

No, you had the total opposite. You had people trying to find fault with them in anything they ever did. Michael Brown’s stepfather having a criminal record was used against Michael. Could go on and on.

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ObserverArt  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:37:10am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

Well speaking as a 28 year old. I do feel a lot of frustration myself. I’ve got a BA and even a paralegal certificate. Now that said I express my frustrations in uh very different ways than young Fry here.

Happy, said it before. I am 61, had a great successful career all the way up to October 2012 and then the company I worked for shut down. I am college educated, have tons of experience and I am in the same boat.

I know too damn many people my age and less in similar situations.

I was not sold this outcome when I was 18.

I am here too.

And by the way…the big job I thought I had…fell through.

And there was some bad credit card fraud to go with it. It is going to cost me. I got stuck in the middle of a good scam. Even the security people at the banks said the guys were good and they hadn’t seen a scam quite like what happened to me.

This has all gone down over the last three days. I’m real bummed about it, but here I am.

Life sucks sometimes. It’s sucking pretty good right now.

(Shit…now I am bummed…be back in a bit)

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:43:15am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

I hope he doesn’t kill himself. I think he needs help and time away from right wing propaganda.

That is exactly what he needs. And the idiots that are talking to him need to STFU and let someone sane speak with him for a while.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 11, 2016 • 10:51:57am

re: #406 lawhawk

That’s a combination of charges from last year, plus a few new ones. I’d say that would also inform on the superseding indictments that are likely to head the way of the rest of the Bundy militia nuts.

Ain’t nothing like a federal indictment to complicate your life.

In federal court, the rules are different.

436
BlueSpotinAL  Feb 11, 2016 • 11:09:43am

re: #430 20Hz

Perhaps. I am not a Dr.. But from the evidence I have seen thus far and my layman opinion , I agree with you. Unfortunately the law is not going to see him as his “mental” age, but his chronological age.

I am no expert, but it seems that Fry will be going straight to psychiatric care first.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2016 • 11:58:26am

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel

Putin: “What? Armed gangsters have taken over a federal park facility? They make demands?”
Lackey: “Da, that is correct, comrade, er, Mr. President.”
Putin: “Do they have hostages?”
Lackey: “No, com-, Mr. President.”
Putin: “Foreign media with them?”
Lackey: “No, Mr. President.”
Putin: “Are the facilities valuable?”
Lackey: “No, Mr. President. Just some out-buildings and a small house.”
Putin: “Good, call Long Range Aviation. They will know what to do.”
Lackey: “Yes, excellent call, sir. It shouldn’t take more than 5 or 6 of their TU-160s to get the job done.”

Difference being that Putin controls the mass media in his country and he could ensure that the story was told from his point of view only.


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