Video: John Oliver Digs Deep Into Voting Rights and GOP Lies

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John Oliver’s long-form humor/satire is something I’ve really begun to look forward to, and this is one of the best examples of it yet. A brilliant exposé of GOP distortions and lies about voting rights, and how those lies are used to disenfranchise the poor and minorities.

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piratedan  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:17:05pm

HE’S FUCKING SPOT ON, as always… and the way that they handle voting within their own state chambers is fucking appalling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:18:28pm

John Oliver is the new Jon Stewart. End of story.

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gocart mozart  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:19:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:21:24pm

re: #3 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

The GOP: Borking America since 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:21:44pm

It’s such crap as Oliver gets at.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:23:18pm

So Jebby is rolling out “W” for his campaign rally tonight.

FAIL!

Jeebus Jeb! Did you not catch your brother’s approval ratings at the end of his term?

So, you are going to count on your brother that isn’t really well liked, and open your whole family to be steamrolled by Trump. Who is running your campaign? Maybe you should have listened to Mom. It’s sad the poor woman has to see this.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:23:19pm

Amazing that a news service couldn’t serve the public and report what John Oliver reports. Too busy nuzzling backsides to care at all about the truth. The Republican party has some truly self righteous bastards posing as servants. And if I’m President Obama, I’m doing every possible thing I can do to appoint my choice to the SC. He owes that to the people who elected him and the nation. He won. Twice. The GOP has done nothing for this nation in over 7 years and now they want their cake and eat it too? Fuck ‘em.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:23:51pm

American politics are hopelessly broken and it won’t get much better if Hillary is elected. The GOP will just obstruct the fuck out of her too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:24:30pm

Business casual Kevin Smith.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:27:53pm

There is one thing I don’t like about John Oliver. His show is on HBO and I don’t subscribe. Sure wish he was on a more general channel. : (

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:28:20pm
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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:31:37pm

Here I will refer to a Page I did a year and a half ago related to this topic:

Academics Ask: Do Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. Elections? (Answer - Yes)

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:32:00pm

Michele Fiore of Nevada doesn’t seem to know that one can use cash and ‘buy stuff’ without any ID at all.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:33:04pm

re: #10 ObserverArt

You can watch every single one HERE

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:33:21pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

These folks seem to be doing a decent job dialoguing with the devil, and these do an excellent job dialoguing with Sherlock Holmes.

*ducks and runs for cover

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:34:10pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Michele Fiore of Nevada doesn’t seem to know that one can use cash and ‘buy stuff’ without any ID at all.

Indeed, most of the time when I’m not buying booze, I don’t need ID. FIore is not only nuts but dumb too.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:34:22pm

re: #10 ObserverArt

There is one thing I don’t like about John Oliver. His show is on HBO and I don’t subscribe. Sure wish he was on a more general channel. : (

Oliver is a bit too incendiary for a major spot on broadcast TV. If he did this show on such an outlet you can bet many an offended ‘murican would call up and complain to their TV station.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:35:43pm
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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:39:16pm

Wow, I didn’t realize ghost voting was such a problem in state legislatures. To combat this problem, I propose that state legislator’s votes be recorded using fingerprint scanners. Since they’re so gung-ho about verifying the identities of voters, they should have no problem with such a system, right?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:41:07pm

re: #17 freetoken

PBS’s Frontline ?

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:41:50pm

re: #17 freetoken

Oliver is a bit too incendiary for a major spot on broadcast TV. If he did this show on such an outlet you can bet many an offended ‘murican would call up and complain to their TV station.

Yep. The people who need to see it the most will never watch it.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:42:12pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

American politics are hopelessly broken and it won’t get much better if Hillary is elected. The GOP will just obstruct the fuck out of her too.

The only way to get US politics back on track is for the GOP to disintegrate or fundamentally reform itself.

IMO neither of these things will happen unless the “moderates” (e.g., Mark Kirk et al.) desert the party en masse.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:43:12pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

True-but you have to start at the bottom, like the religious right did when Reagan took office. This is the start.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:44:00pm

re: #17 freetoken

Oliver is a bit too incendiary for a major spot on broadcast TV. If he did this show on such an outlet you can bet many an offended ‘murican would call up and complain to their TV station.

So telling the truth is now ‘too incendiary’ for broadcast TV?

Time to summon the meteors.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:44:13pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

She only shops at her local Guns n Ammo.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:44:37pm

This may be what could really get under Trump’s skin:

Ted Cruz Calls Donald Trump’s Sister, a Judge, an ‘Extremist’

Senator Ted Cruz took aim on Monday at the judicial record of Donald J. Trump’s sister, calling her a “radical pro-abortion extremist” unfit for the Supreme Court.

Mr. Trump has said in the past that his sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, a senior judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in Philadelphia would make an effective Supreme Court justice. On Sunday, he told ABC that he had only suggested it “jokingly.”

Speaking to reporters here on Monday, Mr. Cruz treated Ms. Barry’s prospective nomination as serious.

“Now, it’s good to stand with your sister,” he said. “But Donald’s sister was a Bill Clinton-appointed federal appellate judge who is a radical pro-abortion extremist.”

In fact, Ms. Barry was initially appointed to the bench by Ronald Reagan and promoted by Mr. Clinton.

[…]

Ted really likes to deceive. No wonder Trump is beginning to zero in on him.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:45:08pm
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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:45:24pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

The only way to get US politics back on track if the the GOP to disintegrate or fundamentally reform itself.

IMO neither of these things will happen unless the “moderates” (e.g., Mark Kirk et al.) desert the party en masse.

Democratic voters could help spur along this process if they would just fucking show up in Midterm elections.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:45:28pm

Joel “ribeye in the sky” Kleefisch is an absolute moron. He’s married to our own Lieutenant Governor Becky “Wisconsin is open for business” Kleefisch who is also a complete moron.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:45:42pm

re: #26 freetoken

Heehee….Obama nominates Trump’s sister to SCOTUS……

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:45:47pm

re: #14 nines09

You can watch every single one [Embedded content]

Cool. I was going to check to see if I could find his shows. Thanks.

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KingKenrod  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:48:22pm

re: #26 freetoken

This may be what could really get under Trump’s skin:

Ted Cruz Calls Donald Trump’s Sister, a Judge, an ‘Extremist’

Ted really likes to deceive. No wonder Trump is beginning to zero in on him.

Cruz is such a humorless dick. Easy to see why everyone hates him.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:48:51pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Right around the time that “family” in the name of a political organization became a code word for anti-gay hatred.

Another ongoing paradox is all the constitution-thumping carried out primarily by people who thoroughly despise all its contents except their personally authored version of the second amendment.

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:49:17pm

re: #26 freetoken

This may be what could really get under Trump’s skin:

Ted Cruz Calls Donald Trump’s Sister, a Judge, an ‘Extremist’

Ted really likes to deceive. No wonder Trump is beginning to zero in on him.

It really is too bad that Trump is one of the few people with a platform calling Cruz out for his constant lying.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:49:29pm

re: #17 freetoken

Oliver is a bit too incendiary for a major spot on broadcast TV. If he did this show on such an outlet you can bet many an offended ‘murican would call up and complain to their TV station.

I understand your point. I was thinking he should be on a channel like Comedy, USA, TNT…I have cable but I don’t subscribe to the big movie channels like HBO, Showtime, The Movie Channel, etc. Used to, but no can afford at this time.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:51:37pm

Sorry, can’t resist this …

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:53:44pm

re: #26 freetoken

This may be what could really get under Trump’s skin:

Ted Cruz Calls Donald Trump’s Sister, a Judge, an ‘Extremist’

Ted really likes to deceive. No wonder Trump is beginning to zero in on him.

I sure wish everyone from all around the political world would zero in on him. He needs to be exposed for the lying manipulating slime he is.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:54:36pm

re: #36 Le Lapin Tueur

That actually is one of the more pro-life things Scalia has ever done. After all, he’s no longer able to vote for death in all the SCOTUS capital cases.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:54:43pm

re: #37 ObserverArt

I sure wish everyone from all around the political world would zero in on him. He needs to be exposed for the lying manipulating slime he is.

Ted Cruz or Donald Trump?

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:54:51pm

[…]

“The SCOTUS has never ruled on this issue and it’s a big issue,” he continued. “Do rapists, stalkers, wife batterers and child molesters now have an inalienable right to personally interrogate their victims in court? The Supreme Court has never said that they do, and every single court besides our court of appeals has said that they don’t.”

[…]

As I understand it, the right to confront one’s accusers was a biggie for Scalia. I’m glad he can’t be there on this one.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:56:21pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Ted Cruz or Donald Trump?

One at a time. Right now Trump is helping wipe out Ted. Then everyone can concentrate on The Donald.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:57:23pm

re: #36 Le Lapin Tueur

Sorry, can’t resist this …

Embedded Image

I’d have said ‘Too soon’, except for all the stuff that’s been flying around since he died, especially Cruz’s pronouncement that he shouldn’t be replaced this year, while the body was still warm. That pretty much beat the decorum out of the discussion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:58:09pm

re: #41 ObserverArt

One at a time. Right now Trump is helping wipe out Ted. Then everyone can concentrate on The Donald.

And then Marco Rubio walks through the wreckage and gets the nom.

//

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:58:38pm

re: #7 nines09

Amazing that a news service couldn’t serve the public and report what John Oliver reports. Too busy nuzzling backsides to care at all about the truth. The Republican party has some truly self righteous bastards posing as servants. And if I’m President Obama, I’m doing every possible thing I can do to appoint my choice to the SC. He owes that to the people who elected him and the nation. He won. Twice. The GOP has done nothing for this nation in over 7 years and now they want their cake and eat it too? Fuck ‘em.

What I’d really like to know about the MSM is how many times the news story “The GOP is a shit party” has been killed in-house by management in the past few decades.

It’s such an obvious story for any non-wingnut reporter, but it never appears.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:58:57pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

Just create a youtube account (free) and subscribe. On the left is the subscription tag.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 2:59:16pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d have said ‘Too soon’, except for all the stuff that’s been flying around since he died, especially Cruz’s pronouncement that he shouldn’t be replaced this year, while the body was still warm. That pretty much beat the decorum out of the discussion.

I’ve noticed ol’ Mitch McC has been catching a lot of criticism for being one of the first Repugs to get political a half hour after the news broke.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:00:08pm

re: #44 EPR-radar

What I’d really like to know about the MSM is how many times the news story “The GOP is a shit party” has been killed in-house by management in the past few decades.

It’s such an obvious story for any non-wingnut reporter, but it never appears.

The problem is a good percentage of corporate executives are Republicans and a lot of them own Newspapers, TV stations, etc.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:00:16pm

re: #46 ObserverArt

I’ve noticed ol’ Mitch McC has been catching a lot of criticism for being one of the first Repugs to get political a half hour after the news broke.

Since that criticism isn’t coming from Republicans, it isn’t going to matter to Mitch McConnell.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:00:42pm

Y’all catch this part of the OP vid?

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Voting (HBO)

If link doesn’t work, skip to 10:48 in the vid.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:00:58pm

re: #44 EPR-radar

I really do look at it nothing more than a dog chasing it’s tail. “What’s hot? What’s trending? Go get it. Oh, and don’t rock the boat or actually ask any questions that may offend our “host”.” Simpleton reporting. Never question, only report. Even if it a bald faced damaging lie……SCOOP!

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:01:14pm

re: #43 Eclectic Cyborg

And then Marco Rubio walks through the wreckage and gets the nom.

//

Wounded and defeated. America turns a blind eye to the Republicans this election.

//

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:01:36pm

re: #47 Eclectic Cyborg

The problem is a good percentage of corporate executives are Republicans and a lot of them own Newspapers, TV stations, etc.

Indeed. The ruling class learned their lessons from the muckraking journalism of the progressive era.

First you control the media. Then you take everything.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:02:03pm

re: #45 nines09

Just create a youtube account (free) and subscribe. On the left is the subscription tag.

Already have an account. Thanks for the tip.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:02:54pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

Then you can bring it up in a click. You are welcome.

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:04:04pm

re: #35 ObserverArt

I understand your point. I was thinking he should be on a channel like Comedy, USA, TNT…I have cable but I don’t subscribe to the big movie channels like HBO, Showtime, The Movie Channel, etc. Used to, but no can afford at this time.

You do bring up a good point. I think there is a market for incendiary political satire on basic cable, as evidenced by TBS picking up a talk show featuring Samantha Bee—another Daily Show alum—that shows promise. This clip had me in stitches:

Youtube Video

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:04:39pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

Here’s the thing… if the defendant in a case like that was represented by counsel, and the victim was called as a witness by the prosecution, there’s no question that defense counsel should be allowed to cross-examine the victim. I’m not sure there is an argument that would rightly prohibit a pro per defendant from cross-examining the victim. Procedural due process is about the rights of the accused to put forward a defense and denying them the right to cross-examine the accuser seems like a denial of fundamental due process.

I don’t like the outcome, but I don’t see what the alternative is. (That said, I am not opposed to courts prohibiting testimony from minors). I think there are procedural safeguards that can be put in place - such as requiring the defendant to submit all questions to the judge before cross-examination, or even having the judge be the one to ask the questions. Perhaps appointed counsel for the cross?

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:05:43pm

re: #48 EPR-radar

Since that criticism isn’t coming from Republicans, it isn’t going to matter to Mitch McConnell.

A big critic was Morning Joke…one of the first things he said at the top of his show.

I watch about 15-20 minutes just to get a feel for the whole day’s GOP parroting and where the media will be heading. It is amazing how his show seems to reflect what is coming.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:08:28pm

re: #56 KGxvi

Here’s the thing… if the defendant in a case like that was represented by counsel, and the victim was called as a witness by the prosecution, there’s no question that defense counsel should be allowed to cross-examine the victim. I’m not sure there is an argument that would rightly prohibit a pro per defendant from cross-examining the victim. Procedural due process is about the rights of the accused to put forward a defense and denying them the right to cross-examine the accuser seems like a denial of fundamental due process.

I don’t like the outcome, but I don’t see what the alternative is. (That said, I am not opposed to courts prohibiting testimony from minors). I think there are procedural safeguards that can be put in place - such as requiring the defendant to submit all questions to the judge before cross-examination, or even having the judge be the one to ask the questions. Perhaps appointed counsel for the cross?

Testimony from minors is an interesting question. I well remember the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, and how a number of people who were probably totally innocent got convicted of horrific crimes based on the mistaken belief that ‘kids don’t lie!’.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:09:07pm

re: #36 Le Lapin Tueur

I garner no joy in another mans death, but The Onion nailed it. Truth is truth

I am reminded of a eulogy I either read or dreamt or thought up. Went along the lines of something like this.
“Yes, he was a uncaring hard man. Yes. A bastard. Cruel. Mean. Single minded in his obsessive meanness. A Son Of A Bitch. But now, in this hour of his demise……I would like to draw attention to……..The fact that this man…….Is now………A DEAD SON OF A BITCH! Whoo Hoo! BAM! Give me a bottle!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:09:12pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

November 4, 2008.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:09:55pm

re: #56 KGxvi

Here’s the thing… if the defendant in a case like that was represented by counsel, and the victim was called as a witness by the prosecution, there’s no question that defense counsel should be allowed to cross-examine the victim. I’m not sure there is an argument that would rightly prohibit a pro per defendant from cross-examining the victim. Procedural due process is about the rights of the accused to put forward a defense and denying them the right to cross-examine the accuser seems like a denial of fundamental due process.

I don’t like the outcome, but I don’t see what the alternative is. (That said, I am not opposed to courts prohibiting testimony from minors). I think there are procedural safeguards that can be put in place - such as requiring the defendant to submit all questions to the judge before cross-examination, or even having the judge be the one to ask the questions. Perhaps appointed counsel for the cross?

I’m all for due process, with limits. You are right, it is tough to sort out.

Interestingly, last year Judge Padilla held an evidentiary hearing into the possible trauma that the two girls, who were 4 and 5 at the time of the abuse, might face.

There’s the limit.

I like the idea of having a judge or someone else ask the (written) questions.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:10:03pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Testimony from minors is an interesting question. I well remember the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, and how a number of people who were probably totally innocent got convicted of horrific crimes based on the mistaken belief that ‘kids don’t lie!’.

I forget the details I learned in law school, but I believe there are special rules in place for children and other witnesses with diminished capacity.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:10:50pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

November 4, 2008.

It did have a nice 8 year run in the 1990s, too.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:11:03pm

Question re. last thread: does Priebus (I always want to write Primus) believe what he says?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:11:12pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

I’m all for due process, with limits. You are right, it is tough to sort out.

There’s the limit.

I like the idea of having a judge or someone else ask the (written) questions.

I’ve seen a similar compromise where the accused asked questions by video from a separate room.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:11:57pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

I’m all for due process, with limits. You are right, it is tough to sort out.

There’s the limit.

I like the idea of having a judge or someone else ask the (written) questions.

Typically, I’ll defer to a trial court judge conducting a hearing on cases involving children and violent crimes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:13:12pm

Jeb! is pulling a Trump:

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:13:27pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:13:55pm

re: #64 Nyet

Question re. last thread: does Priebus (I always want to write Primus) believe what he says?

The only credibility he has is that he hasn’t yet worn a bullet or fetus necklace.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:13:56pm

re: #62 KGxvi

I forget the details I learned in law school, but I believe there are special rules in place for children and other witnesses with diminished capacity.

One of the things I read which made me think, “WTF?” was that some kids apparently claimed (or agreed with the claim) that not only had small animals been ritually sacrificed, but even zoo animals, including a giraffe.

That should have been a clue. It’s hard to hide 18 feet of ritually sacrificed corpse in a small preschool.

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KGxvi  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:15:32pm

re: #64 Nyet

Question re. last thread: does Priebus (I always want to write Primus) believe what he says?

Please define “believe” and “says”.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:17:28pm

re: #71 KGxvi

Please define “believe” and “says”.

is

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:19:30pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Afraid of the dolt percentage? Idiot says what? “Jeb? I thought we was bringing Junior back. Uh, wait a minute.’

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bratwurst  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:19:40pm

Lindsey Graham engaging in the “wartime president” bullshit in introducing George W. Bush.

A lot of bad memories all flooding back.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:20:16pm

re: #74 bratwurst

Graham is politically in a forest and can’t see the trees.

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Nyet  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:21:13pm

re: #74 bratwurst

1. Start a war.
2. Call yourself a wartime president.
3. ???
4. Profit.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:22:12pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

As soon as the context called for it to be “us, the people” and the RWNJs muffed it..

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:24:33pm

re: #74 bratwurst

Lindsey Graham engaging in the “wartime president” bullshit in introducing George W. Bush.

A lot of bad memories all flooding back.

Republicans really do live in an alternate world.

First we get blindsided by 9/11, which the all-encompassing incompetence of the Bush administration did nothing to prevent.

Then we embarked on a stupid-ass invasion of Iraq using the most transparently pathetic excuses of all time. At the time I had just voted for W, and I was in favor of doing something about Iraq. Even back then as a blinkered Republican-voting idiot, I could see that the party line about Iraq was the dumbest pack of lies imaginable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:25:47pm

We could put the voter rights and the undocumented resident question to bed once and for all by institution a nationwide ID card: one for citizens and one for legal resident aliens, to be shown when voting, opening a bank account, registering an auto, applying for social benefits or enrolling children in public schools.

It would end all discussion about voter ID or undocumented workers, and cost a lot less than building and maintaining a wall around our country.

Any takers out there?

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:26:30pm

Any Republican who can’t recognize “Bush fatigue” is real and will sink any nominee can’t really be taken seriously as a campaigner.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:27:23pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

We could put the voter rights and the undocumented resident question to bed once and for all by institution a nationwide ID card: one for citizens and one for legal resident aliens, to be shown when voting, opening a bank account, registering an auto, applying for social benefits or enrolling children in public schools.

It would end all discussion about voter ID or undocumented workers, and cost a lot less than building and maintaining a wall around our country.

Any takers out there?

If such an ID were also used for verifying employment eligibility, I’d be all for it.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:28:11pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Biometrics, DNA, embeddable chips under the skin.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:28:54pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

If such an ID were also used for verifying employment eligibility, I’d be all for it.

Wingnut heads would explode over the ‘National Identification Card’ thing, much as some did over RealID.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:28:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:29:24pm

re: #82 freetoken

Biometrics, DNA, embeddable chips under the skin.

MIND CONTROL CHIPS, YOU MEAN!!!!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:29:55pm

re: #82 freetoken

Biometrics, DNA, embeddable chips under the skin.

With your rabies and other shot records.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:31:14pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

MIND CONTROL CHIPS, YOU MEAN!!!!

The chips aren’t for mind control. They are for remote controlled assassinations (they can release Ricin).

Mind control is from the Orbital Mind Control Lasers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:32:28pm

My pearls!!! WHERE ARE MY PEARLS???!!

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:32:31pm

re: #76 Nyet

1. Start a war.
2. Call yourself running mate a wartime president.
3. ??? be Dick Cheney
4. Profit.

FTFY

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:33:07pm

re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White

Wingnut heads would explode over the ‘National Identification Card’ thing, much as some did over RealID.

Which is why some state Driver Licenses are no longer valid ID for entering a Military Base or other Federal Facility. Still valid (I believe) for air travel however.

RBS

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:33:43pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

My pearls!!! WHERE ARE MY PEARLS???!!

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Places bottle of smelling salts under BWS’s nose.

RBS

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:34:09pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

My pearls!!! WHERE ARE MY PEARLS???!!

[Embedded content]

Funny, I don’t remember Dick saying that shit in ‘08, when his party was raising all sorts of a ruckus over Dubya being told his nominees were not getting votes.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:34:12pm

re: #36 Le Lapin Tueur

Sorry, can’t resist this …

Embedded Image

I’m amazed that the camera lens didn’t crack when that freak smiled…

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:34:12pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Dick Cheney needs to go to Hell. While there, he can look into which circle of Hell is celebrating the return of its infernal ruler after a long absence.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:34:34pm

re: #91 Reality Based Steve

Places bottle of smelling salts under BWS’s nose.

RBS

Thanks. I so totally did NOT see that one coming….
//////////////////////////////

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:36:46pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

If such an ID were also used for verifying employment eligibility, I’d be all for it.

Require it when buying a gun, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:37:10pm

re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White

Wingnut heads would explode over the ‘National Identification Card’ thing, much as some did over RealID.

Plenty of dudebros on the Left would also totally oppose it…

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:38:45pm

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Plenty of dudebros on the Left would also totally oppose it…

“The government will have all your personal info! And they’ll use the RFID chip to track your every movement and hack your computers! Even put in little microcameras to watch you as you sleep! Don’t look at me like that, it’s true!!!”

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:39:18pm

re: #15 KGxvi

I am rather enjoying Lucifer. It runs the risk of being a one trick pony though.

I think Piers Anthony did an interesting take on Satan in For Love of Evil

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:39:40pm

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Plenty of dudebros on the Left would also totally oppose it…

I’m no dudebro, but a national ID card sounds like another weapon against the undocumented, not to be redundant and all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:40:59pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:41:48pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

If such an ID were also used for verifying employment eligibility, I’d be all for it.

The point is, without such a system in place, all we have are piecemeal easily politically instrumentalized stopgap and pseudo-measures.

It is common practice all over Europe that you cannot sign a lease, an employment contract, open a bank account or even get a mobile phone in your name without showing proof of legal residence.

It would never fly in the USofA but I cannot think of a simpler, cheaper or more egalitarian alternative.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:41:54pm
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bratwurst  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:42:12pm

Bottom line: anyone dumb enough to fall for the “he kept us safe” line deserves to have Jeb! as their commander in chief.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:42:56pm

re: #83 Blind Frog Belly White

Especially the CATO folks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:43:40pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

I’m no dudebro, but a national ID card sounds like another weapon against the undocumented, not to be redundant and all.

I would like to see everyone living and working in the USA to be documented. Not by deporting all the unregistered ones, but by instituting a system that encompasses everyone living and working there.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:45:41pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

My pearls!!! WHERE ARE MY PEARLS???!!

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Let me fix this:

“I’m of those that believe there are no legitimately elected Democratic presidents and that any exercise of constitutional authority is best left for a Republican president.”

Now it’s properly translated.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:45:51pm

re: #103 The Vicious Babushka

Muslims? Hijab? Bernie’s toast.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:45:56pm

Don’t know what Trump is doing to the GOP, but Freep is unwinding like a cheap sweatsock.

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:46:33pm

Funny how after this weekend, 30 degrees feels strangely comfortable.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:46:58pm

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I would like to see everyone living and working in the USA to be documented. Not by deporting all the unregistered ones, but by instituting a system that encompasses everyone living and working there.

Spit in the cup, please.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:47:21pm

re: #110 makeitstop

Ditto here in Jersey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:47:58pm

re: #107 Mike Lamb

Let me fix this:

“I’m of those that believe there are no legitimately elected Democratic presidents* and that any exercise of constitutional authority is best left for a Republican president.”

Now it’s properly translated.

*Democrats are elected only through a combination of voter fraud and promises of free stuff to moochers at the expense of honest, hardworking taxpayers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:48:45pm

re: #110 makeitstop

Funny how after this weekend, 30 degrees feels strangely comfortable.

I remember one time in grade school after a particularly lengthy cold spell we had a day that the temperature went up to 32 degrees. People were walking around in t-shirts.

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:49:59pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

I remember one time in grade school after a particularly lengthy cold spell we had a day that the temperature went up to 32 degrees. People were walking around in t-shirts.

I was just outside in a flannel, brushing off the remaining snow from my truck.

I might go to rehearsal without 10 layers of clothing for a change.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:50:06pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

Don’t know what Trump is doing to the GOP, but Freep is unwinding like a cheap sweatsock.

Apparently The Donald said that the GOP wasn’t honoring it’s end of the pledge, that he wasn’t being treated fairly. He didn’t outright say that “I’m going 3rd party”, what he said is that they were in default, and because they were in default, he could do whatever he had to do.

Yea, I’ve been watching it over there, isn’t it delightful. They are busy destroying themselves.

RBS

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:50:22pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

Don’t know what Trump is doing to the GOP, but Freep is unwinding like a cheap sweatsock.

Wingnuts don’t know what to do. Before last year, they had a rather deep love affair with Ted, no matter how much they may have instinctively wanted to punch him in the face. But then along came Donald and swept them away with racism, bigotry, hatred, and all the sweet nothings they could handle. If he doesn’t win the nomination or even runs third party, expect a great deal of garment rending and blood spilling.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:50:44pm

re: #111 Decatur Deb

Spit in the cup, please.

Again, all the other approaches to addressing the problem of voter ID and undocumented residents are going to be stopgap, inconsistently applied, often counterproductive and all to easily instrumentalized to realize political ends.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:51:01pm

Trump is treating the GOP like a business partner. That might not end well for them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:52:06pm

re: #108 CuriousLurker

Muslims? Hijab? Bernie’s toast.

IT’S FREAKING DEARBORN

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Cheechako  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:52:06pm

re: #110 makeitstop

Funny how after this weekend, 30 degrees feels strangely comfortable.

Here in SE Alaska it’s a comfortable 55* and sunny. It’s been a fairly warm and wet winter. We had no measureable snowfall in January though it has been very rainy.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:52:19pm

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

*Democrats are elected only through a combination of voter fraud and promises of free stuff to moochers at the expense of honest, hardworking taxpayers.</blockquote

Democrats* being the only demographic, of course, who is not permitted to vote in their own self-interest.

*Technically—that’s only minority democrats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:53:20pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is treating the GOP like a business partner. That might not end well for them.

Donald listened to the Tea Party. The GOP thought they could use them as a megaphone and still keep them in check, being totally deaf to the clear message that the TP hates “politics as usual” regardless of which party is conducting it. They were ready to turn on the GOP and only used it themselves to get their voices heard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:53:21pm

re: #121 Cheechako

Here in SE Alaska it’s a comfortable 55* and sunny. It’s been a fairly warm and wet winter. We had no measureable snowfall in January though it has been very rainy.

I’ve got some of your snow here in the backwoods.
Come on down and get it, please.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:53:37pm

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Again, all the other approaches to addressing the problem of voter ID and undocumented residents are going to be stopgap, inconsistently applied, often counterproductive and all to easily instrumentalized to realize political ends.

I always vote for the wrong side in Brave New World.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:54:11pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is treating the GOP like a business partner. That might not end well for them.

The GOP will have to file for Moral Bankrupcy.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:54:18pm

re: #120 The Vicious Babushka

The wingnuts and Geller & Co. won’t care.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:54:20pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is treating the GOP like a business partner. That might not end well for them.

They were insane to let him in at all. The second he announced they should have nuked his campaign from orbit, brought up the 70’s DOJ racism in housing lawsuit and straight up labeled him persona non-grata as a white supremacist. That would have been risky and, as it happens, taken far more leadership than the cowards running the RNC are capable of mustering.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:54:21pm

re: #120 The Vicious Babushka

IT’S FREAKING DEARBORN

What happens in Dearborn doesn’t stay in Dearborn.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:54:45pm

re: #110 makeitstop

Funny how after this weekend, 30 degrees feels strangely comfortable.

85 here. Santa Ana winds. ha.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:54:57pm
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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:55:13pm

re: #121 Cheechako

Here in SE Alaska it’s a comfortable 55* and sunny. It’s been a fairly warm and wet winter. We had no measureable snowfall in January though it has been very rainy.

We’re getting 55 degrees here tomorrow. Which is nice, because I got a gig in NYC tomorrow night, and going into NYC when it’s cold is a pain in the butt.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:55:36pm

re: #110 makeitstop

Funny how after this weekend, 30 degrees feels strangely comfortable.

And I’m starting to get used to 85 degree weather in the middle of the normally wettest month during the biggest el Nino in recent history.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:55:54pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

“please clap”

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makeitstop  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:56:13pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

85 here. Santa Ana winds. ha.

[ shakes fist at Stanley Sea ]

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:56:17pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ouch Jeb. Always gonna be George’s little brother.

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Cheechako  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:56:29pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve got some of your snow here in the backwoods.
Come on down and get it, please.

Sorry, we didn’t get to snowbird in Arizona this winter so I’m enjoying the warmer but rainy weather. I’ve only used my snowblower twice and each time there was no more than 6” of snow.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:57:06pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

“please clap”

I almost feel sorry for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:57:28pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:57:55pm

re: #133 Skip Intro

And I’m starting to get used to 85 degree weather in the middle of the normally wettest month during the biggest el Nino in recent history.

Yeah. El Nino. What’s up with that?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:58:14pm

re: #120 The Vicious Babushka

IT’S FREAKING DEARBORN

SHARIA LAW!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:58:29pm

re: #138 CuriousLurker

I almost feel sorry for him.

Yeah, here to. Almost. In the sense that deep down, his heart and soul are not really in the campaign, as if he had to convince himself to live up to something that was expected of him.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:58:29pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey, lets face it, there have been times we really came to see the warmup act.

RBS

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:59:08pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

They were insane to let him in at all. The second he announced they should have nuked his campaign from orbit, brought up the 70’s DOJ racism in housing lawsuit and straight up labeled him persona non-grata as a white supremacist. That would have been risky and, as it happens, taken far more leadership than the cowards running the RNC are capable of mustering.

Instead they hoped events would unfold in a way that would neutralize him without their having to get involved. Like someone who discovers a tumor and, in denial, avoids a going to the doctor out of fear of the worst, the GOP is now riddled with a metastatic case of Trumpian cancer. He’s fed off of the racism the GOP leadership has cultivated for decades, and now stands to choke the very life out of the Republican body.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:59:12pm

re: #140 Stanley Sea

Yeah. El Nino. What’s up with that?

It’s turned into La Nada.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 3:59:48pm

Because of course

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:00:38pm

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

Donald Trump raises doubts about Scalia’s death, found the pillow placement “pretty unusual”

Coming from an expert at being suffocated by a large, soft object on his head…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:00:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:00:42pm

re: #143 Reality Based Steve

Hey, lets face it, there have been times we really came to see the warmup act.

RBS

Like in 1980, when The Police were the warmup for The Knack?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:01:03pm

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

Because of course

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It’s as if Alex Jones is seeking the GOP nomination.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:01:07pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

They were insane to let him in at all. The second he announced they should have nuked his campaign from orbit, brought up the 70’s DOJ racism in housing lawsuit and straight up labeled him persona non-grata as a white supremacist. That would have been risky and, as it happens, taken far more leadership than the cowards running the RNC are capable of mustering.

Because they (and all of us) thought it was just a big joke. Right up until HOLY SHIT.

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:01:09pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

They were insane to let him in at all. The second he announced they should have nuked his campaign from orbit, brought up the 70’s DOJ racism in housing lawsuit and straight up labeled him persona non-grata as a white supremacist. That would have been risky and, as it happens, taken far more leadership than the cowards running the RNC are capable of mustering.

The GOP took him as a joke and, let’s be honest, most of us did. For months, we heard pundit after pundit predict that he’d plateaued and would soon be on his way out. And every time he took off in the polls again, it was by tapping into the rich veins of racism and hatred that have been the party’s foundation for decades. By the point it became obvious he was not going to flame out and go away, he’d become so dug in that to destroy him would have meant mutual annihilation. They couldn’t destroy him at this point without effectively forfeiting the election.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:01:30pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But that was different.//

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:01:38pm

re: #146 The Vicious Babushka

Because of course

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Wait until Trump learns Scalia choked on a long-form birth certificate.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:02:43pm

LMAO at Cenk on The YoungTurks smacking SMOTI down…

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:03:18pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

He perfectly personified their bigotry and racism and stole the keys to the hate machine.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:04:47pm

Trump was the perfect storm. Wealthy and able to speak the bigoted language. If he spoke Evangelical language, he’d be their dream candidate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:06:14pm

Thing thing about Trump he’s not like other candidates that can be muzzled by cutting off the cash flow. Trump has enough cash to effectively bankroll his own campaign if he needs to. The RNC can do absolutely NOTHING about him. Trump has them by the balls and he knows it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:07:52pm

re: #158 Eclectic Cyborg

Thing thing about Trump he’s not like other candidates that can be muzzled by cutting off the cash flow. Trump has enough cash to effectively bankroll his own campaign if he needs to. The RNC can do absolutely NOTHING about him. Trump has them by the balls and he knows it.

Exactly right.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:08:11pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

But that would have been no fun for us sane Americans watching this show.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:08:44pm

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Coming from an expert at being suffocated by a large, soft object on his head…

LOL

And besides, who ever heard of sleeping with a PILLOW near your head. //

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:10:06pm

re: #128 goddamnedfrank

They were insane to let him in at all. The second he announced they should have nuked his campaign from orbit, brought up the 70’s DOJ racism in housing lawsuit and straight up labeled him persona non-grata as a white supremacist. That would have been risky and, as it happens, taken far more leadership than the cowards running the RNC are capable of mustering.

Isn’t it strange that cooperating with racists for decades ends up corrupting the party?

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:10:33pm

re: #94 EPR-radar

I think Dick Cheney needs to go to Hell. While there, he can look into which circle of Hell is celebrating the return of its infernal ruler after a long absence.

I don’t know. Old Lou Cipher would be worried Cheney would upstage him and put him out of work. That would be tough to lose an eternal job.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:10:55pm

Just heard. Lame duck President? Uh asshole he has 11 months left in his presidency. This is such crap by the Republican party and I hope like hell even if we do get a nominee passed the Senate that they’re called out for it by Democratic candidates so voters know never to even consider trusting this party with anythign ever again.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:11:37pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

Isn’t it strange that cooperating with racists for decades ends up corrupting the party?

Heh yep, this is the final product of the Southern Strategy. Congratulations GOP, you are the Dixiecrat Party of 1948.

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piratedan  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:15:41pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe part of the process is to stop being butthurt as a political party that you lost to PBO, twice and maybe, just maybe, have a platform that consists of something that isn’t solely constructed of fear of anything that isn’t white, protestant and rich.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:16:27pm

re: #158 Eclectic Cyborg

Thing thing about Trump he’s not like other candidates that can be muzzled by cutting off the cash flow. Trump has enough cash to effectively bankroll his own campaign if he needs to. The RNC can do absolutely NOTHING about him. Trump has them by the balls and he knows it.

At this point they’d have to destroy him personally which means destroying themselves organizationally. I mean just go after him with a metaphorical claw hammer, unleash the fucking Kraken, make a big deal about the Nixon / Ford DOJ housing lawsuit and encourage every insider to vent every story about his racism over the years. That means being willing to perform a radical political amputation, cutting their white supremacist base of support off mid thigh and then cauterizing the stumps with a blowtorch.

The thing is they know they can’t do that and still have any chance of winning this election, and being the short sighted taint-weasels they are they’re still hoping for a divine intervention.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:17:10pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

It’s as if Alex Jones is seeking the GOP nomination.

re: #154 Decatur Deb

Wait until Trump learns Scalia choked on a long-form birth certificate.

A little while ago I was fooling around in the comments of SK’s latest page about the black flag with Arabic writing and was surprised at how easy it is to create a conspiracy theory if you keep an eye out for things that will fit into the template you’ve created.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:17:45pm

Bernie people, please check your graphics for typos. Kthxbai.

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:18:14pm

re: #158 Eclectic Cyborg

Thing thing about Trump he’s not like other candidates that can be muzzled by cutting off the cash flow. Trump has enough cash to effectively bankroll his own campaign if he needs to. The RNC can do absolutely NOTHING about him. Trump has them by the balls and he knows it.

Trump was able to do something as a self-funded candidate that has fucked the party for years: He shocked the country the face of the party’s base. He fed them on Grade-A red meat for months, giving voice to all their worst fears and hatreds, and doing so in a totally unapologetic manner. The only reason Ted remains viable at this point is because he’s ready to feed the same hunger. Even if the establishment got Rubio nominated by this point, he’d be so handcuffed to this lunacy, for fear that the base would stay home.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:18:32pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

Upding for “short sighted taint weasels”.

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wrenchwench  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:18:38pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

The thing is they know they can’t do that and still have any chance of winning this election, and being the short sighted taint-weasels they are they’re still hoping for a divine intervention.

I think they got one. Wasn’t in their favor.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:18:38pm

re: #168 CuriousLurker

A little while ago I was fooling around in the comments of SK’s latest page about the black flag with Arabic writing and was surprised at how easy it is to create a conspiracy theory if you keep an eye out for things that will fit into the template you’ve created.

I saw Trump’s face on a wheat tortilla.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:18:45pm

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie people, please check your graphics for typos. Kthxbai.

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But Baby Whiplash says he’s a militant atheist. Militant Atheists don’t attend faith breakfasts even if the breakfast burritos are amazing.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:18:51pm

re: #160 GlutenFreeJesus

But that would have been no fun for us sane Americans watching this show.

I’m actually not having fun. I think it’s scary as fuck allowing someone that openly fascist anywhere on the field, let alone within even the longest field goal range of the Presidency. That’s why I’m so pissed off at Republicans, every last one of them, they’ve utterly failed in their civic duty.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:19:19pm

re: #168 CuriousLurker

A little while ago I was fooling around in the comments of SK’s latest page about the black flag with Arabic writing and was surprised at how easy it is to create a conspiracy theory if you keep an eye out for things that will fit into the template you’ve created.

It is easy. And it helps to have a platform i.e. radio show like Alex does to spread them.

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:20:05pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

At this point they’d have to destroy him personally which means destroying themselves organizationally. I mean just go after him with a metaphorical claw hammer, unleash the fucking Kraken, make a big deal about the Nixon / Ford DOJ housing lawsuit and encourage every insider to vent every story about his racism over the years. That means being willing to perform a radical political amputation, cutting their white supremacist base of support off mid thigh and then cauterize the stumps with a blowtorch.

The thing is they know they can’t do that and still have any chance of winning this election, and being the short sighted taint-weasels they are they’re still hoping for a divine intervention.

They seem by this point to be debating if choking down the shit sandwich that is Ted Cruz is such a bad thing if it means Trump is not the nominee. You can see it in their eyes, their hope that this shitshow goes sideways between now and Cleveland, so they can have a brokered convention and possibly put somebody at the top of the ticket that they could conceivably win the election with.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:20:26pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

I’m actually not having fun. I think it’s scary as fuck allowing someone that openly fascist anywhere on the field, let alone within even the longest field goal range of the Presidency. That’s why I’m so pissed off at Republicans, every last one of them, they’ve utterly failed in their civic duty.

Who I’m most upset with here are the so called moderates which is why I’ve found my patience wearing thin with DF here as of late.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:20:42pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

American politics are hopelessly broken and it won’t get much better if Hillary is elected. The GOP will just obstruct the fuck out of her too.

But it would be better to have a Democratic President regardless of Republican obstructionism he or her would face. A Republican President would be a nightmare.

P.S. The Senate may flip back to the Democrats so it would be obstruction from just the House.

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Danack  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:21:18pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

“who mirrors and inflames our frustration.”

Do you think he understands that mirrors only show who is looking at them?

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:23:01pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

It is easy. And it helps to have a platform i.e. radio show like Alex does to spread them.

30 years ago Alex Jones would be the crazy guy handing out his newsletter at the park. You know, the one you tried not to make eye contact with.

I’ve GOT to learn to grift.

RBS

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:23:55pm

re: #181 Reality Based Steve

30 years ago Alex Jones would be the crazy guy handing out his newsletter at the park. You know, the one you tried not to make eye contact with.

I’ve GOT to learn to grift.

RBS

So would 80+% of talk radio hosts.

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:24:09pm

re: #181 Reality Based Steve

30 years ago Alex Jones would be the crazy guy handing out his newsletter at the park. You know, the one you tried not to make eye contact with.

I’ve GOT to learn to grift.

RBS

Hell, even 8 years ago, Jones was that guy that the wingnuts laughed off and declared that the only people who paid him attention were liberals trying to accuse all conservatives of being crazy.

Then the black guy won and, suddenly, Jones started to make sense to those wingnuts. Curious that…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:24:57pm

re: #181 Reality Based Steve

30 years ago Alex Jones would be the crazy guy handing out his newsletter at the park. You know, the one you tried not to make eye contact with.

I’ve GOT to learn to grift.

RBS

There are certainly downsides to a more connected world. Alex Jones being able to spread his conspiracy bullshit globally with ease is one of them. I’ve joked about it before but I want to start a CT that Alex himself is a CIA pawn spreading crazienss to discredit teh real truth seekers. //

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ausador  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:25:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:26:04pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

Hell, even 8 years ago, Jones was that guy that the wingnuts laughed off and declared that the only people who paid him attention were liberals trying to accuse all conservatives of being crazy.

Then the black guy won and, suddenly, Jones started to make sense to those wingnuts. Curious that…

Exactly. When Jones directed his nonsense at Republicans like Bush, he was ignored but his crazy shit is mainstream now that Obama’s president in conservative circles.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:26:09pm


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The FBI showed patience and restraint. They gave the occupiers ample opportunity to alienate the local community. Many locals reportedly became hostile toward the stunt despite agreeing with the occupiers about the sentencing of two local ranchers on arson charges. Federal authorities left the lights on and allowed them a platform to demonstrate the incoherence of their mishmash of grievances. They bided their time until an opportunity presented itself to arrest of the group’s leaders on a remote Oregon highway. They then slowly tightened the noose on the remaining holdouts, allowing them to ramble on about abortion, marijuana prohibition and a government cover-up of aliens at Area 51.

In the final hours, as negotiators talked the last few holdouts into surrendering on a live-streamed telephone call, only someone deeply indoctrinated in anti-government ideology could fail to see the FBI as calm and professional, while the occupiers displayed clinical levels of paranoia. The last four militants were convinced that they would be cut down in a hail of gunfire the moment they stepped outside the door, but it was clear that all they had to do to avoid harm was leave their weapons behind and walk out, which is what ultimately happened.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:26:38pm

Freeper Gold:

“Trump ain’t nuthin’ but Ross Perot with an ear job and a hair weave…”

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:28:55pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

Freeper Gold:

“Trump ain’t nuthin’ but Ross Perot with an ear job and a hair weave…”

Well, he has a point, the whole appeal of Perot was that he had so much money, he didn’t have to listen to the “establishment” and could promise whatever he liked.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:29:25pm

re: #185 ausador

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The big take away is you really do have to consider the small differences that will exist in a Clinton versus Sanders presidency which may be a wash since I don’t think you can convince me Bernie will be as effective as Clinton will be versus the considerable differences between any of them and a Republican.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:29:53pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Who I’m most upset with here are the so called moderates which is why I’ve found my patience wearing thin with DF here as of late.

My view is that people here coddle him too much because interpersonal conflict makes them uncomfortable. That’s about all I should say on the matter.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:30:59pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

Well, he has a point, the whole appeal of Perot was that he had so much money, he didn’t have to listen to the “establishment” and could promise whatever he liked.

Oh, yeah. But he’s a Freeper.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:31:00pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

Well, he has a point, the whole appeal of Perot was that he had so much money, he didn’t have to listen to the “establishment” and could promise whatever he liked.

Though in actuality, he promised damned little outside of aphorisms. “Clean out the barn!’ is a great soundbite and a terrible basis for policy.

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Targetpractice  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:31:46pm

re: #193 Blind Frog Belly White

Though in actuality, he promised damned little outside of aphorisms. “Clean out the barn!’ is a great soundbite and a terrible basis for policy.

So he was Bernie with Trump’s money.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:31:47pm
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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:32:27pm

MacArthur… Patton…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:33:06pm

re: #196 freetoken

MacArthur… Patton…

All hugo egomaniacs that had loads of problems.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:34:13pm

OH CRAP! New Daredevil Trailer

Marvel’s Daredevil - Season 2 - Official Trailer - Part 1 - Netflix [HD]

“You know you’re one bad day away from being me?”

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:34:53pm

re: #185 ausador

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A good article that made me sick to my stomach. This election honestly scares the shit out of me. So much at stake.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:35:30pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

The difference is that there won’t be a Bernie presidency.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:35:37pm

“We’re poor… we’re bust…”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:36:00pm

Trump rambling on about how we paid (we really didn’t) $150b for the sailors Iran took into custody. You know that crowd is eating it up.

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Danack  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:36:05pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:36:07pm

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Plenty of dudebros on the Left would also totally oppose it…

In New Hampshire it’s that mobius feature where you can’t tell where dudebros on the Left end and Free Stater Libertarians begin.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:37:57pm

re: #199 No Depression

A good article that made me sick to my stomach. This election honestly scares the shit out of me. So much at stake.

I’ve heard similar from the other side. It could be tempting to see this as opposite sides of a coin, except it’s not. The other side really is trying to do away with all the social progress we’ve made since about Brown and the Board of Education, if not the 14th Amendment.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:38:04pm

re: #200 Skip Intro

The difference is that there won’t be a Bernie presidency.

I don’t disagree but I want to humor them.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:38:35pm

Still just under a tornado watch, but the radar map says we’re going to get hammered. Most of Alabama is being raked.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:39:39pm

re: #203 Danack

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There better not be a plot twist that says we’re still technically part of England because of a secret clause in the Treaty of Paris.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:41:26pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

There better not be a plot twist that says we’re still technically part of England because of a secret clause in the Treaty of Paris.

You worry too much, Yankee. We could still be reporting to the Spanish monarchy. King’s cool, isn’t he?

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Nojay UK  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:42:54pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

There better not be a plot twist that says we’re still technically part of England because of a secret clause in the Treaty of Paris.

The law doesn’t have to be secret, just obscure enough that your eyes glaze over the wording. A friend of mine is writing a story where part of the plot turns on the real fact that the Duke of Cornwall is by law exempt from the legal restriction barring everyone else in Britain from firing off nuclear weapons as long as he does it on his own property.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:43:58pm

re: #210 Nojay UK

The law doesn’t have to be secret, just obscure enough that your eyes glaze over the wording. A friend of mine is writing a story where part of the plot turns on the real fact that the Duke of Cornwall is by law exempt from the legal restriction barring everyone else in Britain from firing off nuclear weapons on his property.

Hehe that works too. Your friend’s story sounds fascianting.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:44:43pm

re: #210 Nojay UK

The law doesn’t have to be secret, just obscure enough that your eyes glaze over the wording. A friend of mine is writing a story where part of the plot turns on the real fact that the Duke of Cornwall is by law exempt from the legal restriction barring everyone else in Britain from firing off nuclear weapons on his property.

Torquay much?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:45:22pm

re: #209 Decatur Deb

You worry too much, Yankee. We could still be reporting to the Spanish monarchy. King’s cool, isn’t he?

I dunno, Juan Carlos seems pretty cool to me. I can’t imagine Queen Elizabeth pulling a fast one on Oswald Moseley like JC did on Generalissmo Franco. “Yeah I’ll keep fascism and totalitarianism in Espana, Generalissmo. Oh my hands are behind my back and no my fingers they’re not crossed why would you suggest such a thing?”

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Nojay UK  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:45:24pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Hehe that works too. Your friend’s story sounds fascianting.

It started off as a short novella and he’s now nine books into the trilogy. Yes he is on first-name terms with George R R Martin, how did you guess?

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:45:38pm

… doing a strange thing with talk about Lindsay Graham … confusing me…

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:46:05pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

“please clap”

He doesn’t need to say it, I think they have put up those audience applause signs like they use for TV shows.

Heh, Just got the thought of SNL’s Fred Armisen doing the slow drummer with the coke bottle glasses that was always ahead or behind with the little drum rimshots to accent Chris Kattan’s pissed off comedian. Now that would add some damn fun!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:46:20pm

re: #214 Nojay UK

It started off as a short novella and he’s now nine books into the trilogy. Yes he is on first-name terms with George R R Martin, how did you guess?

My creative writing professor has books on Amazon heh.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:46:40pm

I think Trump is trying to confuse me here…

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:47:57pm

Oh dear, Bernie is taking Trump talking points

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:48:36pm

… now championing water-boarding… calling Cruz weak on water-boarding… and immigration…

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:48:57pm

re: #198 Kragar

OH CRAP! New Daredevil Trailer

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Video

“You know you’re one bad day away from being me?”

Is that The Punisher??

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:49:14pm

The singer Vanity, Denise Matthews, has passed away

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:49:14pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Oh dear, Bernie is taking Trump talking points

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I believe it when Bernie says it.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:49:31pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Oh dear, Bernie is taking Trump talking points

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Plays better than, “what are you dopes doing here? waiting for your jobs to come back? hahahahahahahaha!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:49:56pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

Oh dear, Bernie is taking Trump talking points

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Easier said than done Bernie.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:50:12pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

So he wants our workers to work for 15 cents a day?

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:50:21pm

re: #221 Pawn of the Oppressor

Is that The Punisher??

Yup, and it certainly looks like they did make the roof top scene

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:50:41pm

“… water-boarding isn’t tough enough…”

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vgranucci  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:50:50pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

The GOP took him as a joke and, let’s be honest, most of us did. For months, we heard pundit after pundit predict that he’d plateaued and would soon be on his way out. And every time he took off in the polls again, it was by tapping into the rich veins of racism and hatred that have been the party’s foundation for decades. By the point it became obvious he was not going to flame out and go away, he’d become so dug in that to destroy him would have meant mutual annihilation. They couldn’t destroy him at this point without effectively forfeiting the election.

I actually think Trump himself thought of it as a joke—announce for president, get some free publicity, drop out when it gets boring, back to another season of The Apprentice. I don’t think he expected this to take off like it has.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:50:52pm

… gets lots of cheers…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:51:19pm

re: #228 freetoken

“… water-boarding isn’t tough enough…”

Then he should volunteer to be waterboarded to prove to us how weak it really is.

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WhatEVs  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:51:40pm

On the positive side, and I honestly didn’t think I’d see this in my lifetime, the right-wing propaganda machine is imploding and the GOP along with it.

The downside is there are far too many people who are true believers, including more than a few elected officials.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:51:44pm

re: #231 GlutenFreeJesus

Then he should volunteer to be waterboarded to prove to us how weak it really is.

Yes please.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:52:14pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:53:11pm

re: #226 GlutenFreeJesus

So he wants our workers to work for 15 cents a day?

False dichotomy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:54:49pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:55:26pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

Ok. How is he going to get jobs from China back into the US?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:55:37pm

Rebuilding Flint infrastructure seems like a more worthy goal than doing worse than waterboarding to folks we don’t like. Just sayin’

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:56:16pm

re: #229 vgranucci

I actually think Trump himself thought of it as a joke—announce for president, get some free publicity, drop out when it gets boring, back to another season of The Apprentice. I don’t think he expected this to take off like it has.

Still think that, though he might be the dog that caught the car.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:56:34pm

I thought the primary was tomorrow… but Trump just said Saturday… and sure enough it is Saturday for the Republicans.

That leaves very little turn around time for Nevada.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:58:09pm

re: #149 Blind Frog Belly White

Like in 1980, when The Police were the warmup for The Knack?

And there were times when the opening act had so much damn power and energy they buried the feature act.

Billy Cobham’s Spectrum opening for Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters. Herbie and the band didn’t stand a chance.

I was refreshing my memory, and I saw the lineup for the Spectrum album. I also looked to see who all played with Cobham in that era on his tours.

I could have sworn the lineup I saw was Alphonzo Johnson on Bass, John Scofield on Guitar, George Duke on Keys and Cobham on drums of course. But I don’t see some of those guys associated with Cobham.

Charles you out there…would my memory be correct with the Spectrum lineup I saw here in Columbus? Any other jazz listeners form that area know?

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 4:58:56pm

Just 3 days between SC and NV, then just a week till super Tuesday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:00:59pm

oh good grief…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:01:49pm

re: #237 GlutenFreeJesus

Ok. How is he going to get jobs from China back into the US?

What I meant is that I believe Bernie means it. Trump? I don’t assume that he means anything he says.

WRT trade, however, there is a big space between free trade and trade war, where we could ideally make trade deals more favorable to US workers. Right now, trade is generally favorable to the wealthy at the expense of the workers - I don’t think there’s any real question of that, is there?

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:02:42pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief…

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What a pathetic hack.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:02:52pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief…

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He used a hypothetical to call them hypocritical. Seriously Krauthammer I thought you were one of the “smart ones” guess not.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:04:01pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief…

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Kraphammer’s argument - If this situation were reversed, Democrats would do the same thing. His whole argument hinges on a counterfactual.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:04:40pm

The next debate is squeezed in between NV and Super Tuesday.

The notes say this:

Thursday, February 25, 2016
CNN Republican Debate
Aired On: CNN
Location: University of Houston in Houston, Texas
Sponsors: CNN and Telemundo
Candidates: To be determined
Notes: Was originally scheduled for February 26. NBC was replaced by CNN as the sponsor, date moved to February 25.

So, will there be any questions in Spanish.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:04:57pm

What IS hypocritical however is Republican senators saying every judicial nominee deserves a hearing and to be voted on regardless of their views.

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:05:06pm

re: #246 HappyWarrior

He used a hypothetical to call them hypocritical. Seriously Krauthammer I thought you were one of the “smart ones” guess not.

U CALL HIM DUM???? HOW DARE U MOCK A CRIPPLE LIBTARD!!1!!1!!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:05:24pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

My view is that people here coddle him too much because interpersonal conflict makes them uncomfortable. That’s about all I should say on the matter.

I sort of follow the lead of our host. Charles seems to allow Dark to be the Dark he is. I’ll go with that. Also, I think there is more going on there than meets the eye (online). Just a feeling I get…one of the reasons I back off.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:05:39pm

re: #247 Blind Frog Belly White

Kraphammer’s argument - If this situation were reversed, Democrats would do the same thing. His whole argument hinges on a counterfactual.

Which you can’t prove or disprove. As BBD said, a hack.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:05:58pm

re: #246 HappyWarrior

He used a hypothetical to call them hypocritical. Seriously Krauthammer I thought you were one of the “smart ones” guess not.

This is a VERY COMMON wingnut argument technique. It basically frees them to do whatever they want, because the Democrats they imagine would do the same thing.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:07:23pm

re: #241 ObserverArt

Yes, that was the Billy Cobham / George Duke Band.

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danarchy  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:07:23pm

re: #217 HappyWarrior

My creative writing professor has books on Amazon heh.

You know who else has a book on amazon:

amazon.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:07:28pm

Here’s the live feed of the Bernie Show==>

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:08:14pm

re: #255 danarchy

You know who else has a book on amazon:

amazon.com

Yuck.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:08:45pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:08:47pm

re: #222 Kragar

The singer Vanity, Denise Matthews, has passed away

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Lovely lady. RIP.

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freetoken  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:09:18pm

re: #255 danarchy

You know who else has a book on amazon:

amazon.com

Review
“Why Coolidge Matters could not appear at a better time. In it, Charles Johnson shatters the myth that Calvin Coolidge was a president of little influence and brings to life a man of deep convictions, courage, and incredible talent for clearly communicating economic struggles in moral terms. In our era of economic malaise, we should learn from the president whose tax cuts helped ignite one of America’s greatest economic booms. Anyone interested in the cause of free markets and liberty would do well to read this book.”

--U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:09:18pm

re: #258 Charles Johnson

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They forgot Muslim!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:09:44pm

re: #258 Charles Johnson

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End line about the Hajj, so much win.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:10:02pm

To sum it up in a nutshell; Obama said at his SOTU address that “We can cure cancer!” The GOP said at their first debate; “We can bomb Iran!” You know I’ve seen my share of people of every stripe. Not one of these Republican assholes is a leader or better. Just another hard guy. Just a bully. Just a bully who would send your sons and daughters off to die for another false whatever war to protect whatever and then deny them help when they come back with pieces missing. They say they will torture the “terrorists”, and that can mean just about anyone. Which then promises that every American serviceman or woman ever captured will have them to thank for the hell and possible death they will face. They are the most reprehensible pieces of shit I’ve had the misfortune to witness in quite a while. Hard guys. Fucking candy ass wannabe crying hyenas is more like it. Fuck these people. And I really want to spit on the assholes who cheer this insanity. I thought we were supposed to be the good guys. Another delusion of mine I presume.

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:10:10pm

re: #258 Charles Johnson

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I wonder how many wingnuts will take that at face value?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:10:18pm

re: #260 freetoken

So he does know the little Nazi sympathizer.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:10:34pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

And this dick can choke on a dildo.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:10:54pm

re: #244 Blind Frog Belly White

Agreed it’s more than just meaningless rhetoric coming from Bernie. But he just won’t be able to do it. Unfortunately.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:11:07pm

Oh and a note to Cruz but the country was booming before Coolidge took office.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:13:36pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Oh and a note to Cruz but the country was booming before Coolidge took office.

Not possible. The economy can only boom when a Republican has cut taxes, and any boom that may happen, no matter how far removed temporally from the last Republican tax cut is SOLELY the result of that tax cut.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:15:07pm

re: #269 Blind Frog Belly White

The other thing is a lot of the country wasn’t booming in the 20’s. Ironically enough in the places where Cruz is probably popular.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:15:58pm

I was told that the boom of the late 1990s was due to Reagan’s tax cut in the early 1980s - 15 years later. The only reason it ended - in 2000 - was that Clinton had raised taxes - in 1993.

OTOH, the 1991 recession happened because Bush raised taxes a little bit - in 1991.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:16:34pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Yes, that was the Billy Cobham / George Duke Band.

Cool. I thought that was who I saw. I’m going to look to see if I can find anything using that name in a search. I may have been wrong thinking it was billed as Billy Cobham’s Spectrum. It was a long time ago, but I still remember.

Being a drummer I was enthralled with Cobham. He had his set 90° to the stage so you could really see him working. There were times I don’t think any part of his body was touching anything. He looked suspended.

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No Depression  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:16:41pm

re: #255 danarchy

You know who else has a book on amazon:

amazon.com

That Editorial Reviews section features more turds than a Taco Bell bathroom.

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Ubiq  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:16:42pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

The only way that America will repair itself is for the American public to punish the GOP for refusing to govern.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:19:08pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

Lovely lady. RIP.

I believe she was with Nikki Sixx quite a bit in the past. His memoir The Heroin Diaries is a fantastic, if fucked up read.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:19:27pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:19:49pm

Thanks Charles. You led me to this…

Billy Cobham & George Duke Band - Live At Montreux Jazz Festival (1976)

Down memory lane I go…

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:20:18pm

re: #275 Stanley Sea

I believe she was with Nikki Sixx quite a bit in the past. His memoir The Heroin Diaries is a fantastic, if fucked up read.

Word is she had been needing 5 dialysis sessions per day for the last several years due to her drug use back in the 80s

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BeachDem  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:20:56pm

Strickland was pretty good on Chris Hayes tonight, going after creepy Rob Portman—except for when he called Chris “Steve.”

Please, Ohio, vote Portman out! Thank you.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:22:26pm

re: #279 BeachDem

Strickland was pretty good on Chris Hayes tonight, going after creepy Rob Portman—except for when he called Chris “Steve.”

Please, Ohio, vote Portman out! Thank you.

Think he’s got a good shot?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:22:30pm

re: #278 Kragar

Word is she had been needing 5 dialysis sessions per day for the last several years due to her drug use back in the 80s

:(

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:25:28pm

re: #278 Kragar

Word is she had been needing 5 dialysis sessions per day for the last several years due to her drug use back in the 80s

Surely you mean per week.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:25:43pm

re: #276 Skip Intro

The Death Of Antonin Scalia: Reactions From Quail

That’s deplorable. Funny as shit, but deplorable.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:26:55pm

re: #279 BeachDem

Strickland was pretty good on Chris Hayes tonight, going after creepy Rob Portman—except for when he called Chris “Steve.”

Please, Ohio, vote Portman out! Thank you.

I wrote ol’ Rob a pretty good little comment today at his site. It is my duty as an Ohioan. I hope I was sufficiently humorous in my castigating him for being a dutiful little GOP soldier and weighing in on the Supreme Court selection with all of Reince’s talking points.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:27:59pm

re: #282 Skip Intro

Surely you mean per week.

From wikipedia: “Due to the effects on her kidneys of years of drug use while a performer, she had to undergo peritoneal dialysis five times a day (each session was 20 minutes long)”

books.google.com

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:28:18pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Think he’s got a good shot?

Polling has been very tight. You can say they are tied right now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:29:10pm

re: #286 ObserverArt

Polling has been very tight. You can say they are tied right now.

Good to hear. Could flip with the right turnout.

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Skip Intro  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:29:20pm

re: #285 Kragar

From wikipedia: “Due to the effects on her kidneys of years of drug use while a performer, she had to undergo peritoneal dialysis five times a day (each session was 20 minutes long)”

books.google.com

That’s terrible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:29:24pm

re: #282 Skip Intro

Surely you mean per week.

Three times a week:
tmz.com

My book will help fund my ongoing bills for the 23 surgeries i have had over the many years including my continued dialysis 3 x’s a week.

gofundme.com

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:30:10pm

re: a previous comment on this thread.

Trump had an ear job? lol

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:32:20pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

re: a previous comment on this thread.

Trump had an ear job? lol

And hair, too….

What is the First Rule Of Acquisition?
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Ubiq  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:32:25pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

The depressing thing was that the fascist was by far the least crazy person on stage at the last GOP debate.

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:33:11pm

I don’t mind dreaming and thinking big. I do quite a bit of it myself. I’m still, at 46 with and two kids still at home (I’m not the only parent, just working and being a parent), trying to figure out how to finish a PhD in computer science. I think it’s very useful to actually put something just out of your reach.

And then you figure out a way to get there. Sometimes, your plans have to change, and sometimes your goals may have to change. And a lot of times, you have to take really small steps toward your goal, because so many things are going on that you can’t take one big step.

So, I want to know what the big goal is, what the plans are to get there, and how you’ll handle it and all the stuff that happens that you have to take care of on the way to your goal.

And it would be helpful if your goals made mine a little easier.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:33:31pm

re: #241 ObserverArt

And there were times when the opening act had so much damn power and energy they buried the feature act.

Billy Cobham’s Spectrum opening for Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters. Herbie and the band didn’t stand a chance.

I was refreshing my memory, and I saw the lineup for the Spectrum album. I also looked to see who all played with Cobham in that era on his tours.

I could have sworn the lineup I saw was Alphonzo Johnson on Bass, John Scofield on Guitar, George Duke on Keys and Cobham on drums of course. But I don’t see some of those guys associated with Cobham.

Charles you out there…would my memory be correct with the Spectrum lineup I saw here in Columbus? Any other jazz listeners form that area know?

My good friend, a journeyman drummer, was playing for Tommy Keene (who had major support for this one album) and the opening act was as band called Dishwalla. In the middle of the tour Dishwalla had an unexpected hit with “Counting Blue Cars.” Overnight Tommy Keene was the warmup.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:33:51pm

re: #290 Stanley Sea

re: a previous comment on this thread.

Trump had an ear job? lol

Careful—quoting from Freep.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:38:13pm

re: #292 Ubiq

The depressing thing was that the fascist was by far the least crazy person on stage at the last GOP debate.

Oh I’d take Kasich & Jeb! & survive. Ya, we’ll go backwards, but not THAT far.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:39:29pm

re: #296 Stanley Sea

Oh I’d take Kasich & Jeb! & survive. Ya, we’ll go backwards, but not THAT far.

Would you like Mayonnaise or Miracle Whip on your Shit Sandwich?

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stpaulbear  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:44:37pm

re: #222 Kragar

The singer Vanity, Denise Matthews, has passed away

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A friend of mine was Prince’s piano tuner. He got to see Vanity before breakfast at Prince’s house and he said that Vanity was the most naturally beautiful woman he’d ever seen.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:50:08pm

re: #203 Danack

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The older I get the more I believe what my friends who fled the USSR in the 80s tell me. They believe the USA is finished and were going to collapse and break into pieces the same way the USSR did.

I don’t believe the US will get to 250. Hillary’s election will accelerate the GOP’s drive to destroy this country by any means necessary. We already see Abbot talking about breaking Texas away.

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ausador  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:59:00pm

So I reset the gateposts on the dumpster enclosure for the condo. This means that while the concrete is curing the gates are open and propped up on wooden blocks/shims to keep the posts true. To keep people from messing with them I set up a barricade of a couple of sawhorses and several empty 5 gallon buckets all liberally wrapped with yellow “Caution” tape.

Just went out there to find a woman systematically taking the barricades apart and the left-hand gate off its blocks and in the closed position.

“You can’t leave it open overnight, people can see the dumpster” she said when I asked her what the hell she thought she was doing.

OMG, the people who come here in the middle of the night can see our dumpster! Why didn’t I think of that before doing it late in the day so the daytime visitors…oh wait…I did.

Condo work seriously sucks, there is always at least wacko who will never be happy no matter what. Arrggh!

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BeachDem  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:31:23pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Think he’s got a good shot?

I’ll have to check with my political peeps in Ohio. Observer Art might have a feel. He was governor, so at least he’s won elections in Ohio and isn’t coming out of nowhere.


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