Incredible 18-String Acoustic Guitarist Ian Ethan Case, “The Centrifuge”

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Prepare yourself to be amazed; this incredible piece by Ian Ethan Case on 18-string acoustic guitar reminds me of a Steven Reich composition. Truly impressive two-handed technique.

New album “Run Toward The Mountains” out now!
Listen/Buy: http://www.candyrat.com/artists/ianethancase/runtowardthemountains/
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amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B018G8XJA0/?tag=littlegreenfo-20

Visit Ian Ethan Case at: http://ianethan.com/
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Live performance dates: http://ianethan.com/concerts

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96 comments
1
De Kolta Chair  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:32:04pm

Cats living with dogs, anchor babies calling for banning anchor babies, these truly are the end times… of the GOP.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:36:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:38:17pm

re: #2 Kragar

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I’m sure that killing a bunch of Feds will get everyone behind them.
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Great White Snark  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:39:18pm

Playing that a little loud at GWC HQ.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:40:07pm

AAARRRRGGGHHH

*lights desk on fire*
*throws it out the window*

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:40:12pm

I am amazed and very impressed. Such incredible hand gymnastics. It makes me want to give up rather than continue plunking. But. Just not moved (until about 4:55).

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Great White Snark  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:40:39pm

So hey you guys that know guitars so well, will that guitar hold up or come apart like the harp guitars do?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:41:17pm

So what did you do, Baby Whiplash? Did you invade his safe space?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:42:17pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

So what did you do, Baby Whiplash? Did you invade his safe space?

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Can’t even talk about his daughter without being a sorry ass prick.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:43:07pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Can’t even talk about his daughter without being a sorry ass prick.

I hope his daughter grows up and dates that kid and has his baby.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:44:17pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

I hope his daughter grows up and dates that kid and has his baby.

What if his daughter grows up to date some of the other girls also wearing the shirt?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:44:28pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

I hope his daughter grows up and dates that kid and has his baby.

Or marries a Muslim kid.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:44:47pm

re: #11 ObserverArt

What if his daughter grows up to date some of the other girls also wearing the shirt?

Head explodes.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:44:50pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:45:04pm

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

I am amazed and very impressed. Such incredible hand gymnastics. It makes me want to give up rather than continue plunking. But. Just not moved (until about 4:55).

I don’t think I have ever heard anything quite like this before.

Thanks for sharing this, Charles. Beautiful performance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:45:17pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

AAARRRRGGGHHH

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*lights desk on fire*
*throws it out the window*

Because a private company would never knowingly sell poison for years… *cough*Tobacco Companies*cough, cough, cough*

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:45:18pm

I hope she marries a man of color.

I’m more impressed that somebody fcked him at least once. Poor girls.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:45:32pm

re: #7 Great White Snark

So hey you guys that know guitars so well, will that guitar hold up or come apart like the harp guitars do?

You get Ben Carson, luthier, to do the operation.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:45:49pm

re: #17 Pawn of the Oppressor

I hope she marries a man of color.

I’m more impressed that somebody fcked him at least once. Poor girls.

Misery loves company.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:46:53pm

Starting to get some snow…big old flakes. Hope there is not too much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:47:28pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Misery loves company.

Company rarely reciprocates.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:48:17pm

re: #2 Kragar

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*Khorne grows wrathful…throws flaming brass skull at III% idiots for sheer stupidity*

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Great White Snark  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:48:49pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

AAARRRRGGGHHH

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*lights desk on fire*
*throws it out the window*

Proof of a point made many times and usually ignored-All assumptions that government is inherently better at managing a service are false, as are assumptions of the reverse. It’s about competency, supervision, checks and balances and laws with teeth. What those assumptions are is exploitable for electoral influences. That’s all they are good for. Fundraising, false or misdirected outrages.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:48:55pm

I have wasted my life.

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Billy Batts  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:50:59pm

This is another reason why I love this place. I get exposed to music I would probably never have found on my own.

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Lidane  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:52:47pm

Back from seeing Deadpool. A+ movie, would see it again. Love love love.

Also, a new Daredevil trailer? Today is a good day.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:53:01pm

re: #23 Great White Snark

Proof of a point made many times and usually ignored-All assumptions that government is inherently better at managing a service are false, as are assumptions of the reverse. It’s about competency, supervision, checks and balances and laws with teeth. What those assumptions are is exploitable for electoral influences. That’s all they are good for. Fundraising, false or misdirected outrages.

Speaking as one with an engineering background, the idea of doing a rational and dispassionate failure analysis of what led up to the Flint water disaster is natural to me.

What seems cartoonish and unnatural to me, despite its undoubted truth, is the fact that “Don’t elect Republicans to positions of responsibility” must be included in the lessons learned list from Flint. It is as objective a fact as “Don’t run water through the system that will corrode the pipes you have in place.”

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:54:05pm

I’d like to recognize Justice Scalia for his greatest achievement: reminding us all of the importance of the makeup of the Supreme Court.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:54:53pm

Having way too much fun finding ways to incorporate the Imagemagick library into the LGF codebase.

I don’t know why it took me so long to start using this software. It turns some operations that used to take dozens of lines of code into one-liners.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:55:23pm

re: #25 Billy Batts

This is another reason why I love this place. I get exposed to music I would probably never have found on my own.

For sure.

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Billy Batts  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:56:17pm

My Valentine date yesterday. She can swing it.

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Great White Snark  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:56:22pm

re: #27 EPR-radar

The premise that non Republicans could not possibly ever (past or future) make a disastrous mistake under financial or political pressure or both is a hard one to prove. But by all means take your best shot.

Competence knows no party bounds.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:56:38pm

This guy too…

Luca Stricagnoli - Sweet Child O’ Mine (Guitar)

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:57:24pm

re: #31 Billy Batts

My Valentine date yesterday. She can swing it.

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Compared to your lady, Ben Hogan was a schlub! ;-)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:58:04pm

re: #23 Great White Snark

Proof of a point made many times and usually ignored-All assumptions that government is inherently better at managing a service are false, as are assumptions of the reverse. It’s about competency, supervision, checks and balances and laws with teeth. What those assumptions are is exploitable for electoral influences. That’s all they are good for. Fundraising, false or misdirected outrages.

The one thing I would point out is that a government department set up to deliver clean water has the “delivering clean water” as its primary goal. A company contracted to deliver clean water has ‘make money’ as its primary goal. And if it can make more money by delivering bad water, and get away with it, it is likely to do just that.

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sagehen  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:58:14pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

The premise that non Republicans could not possibly ever (past or future) make a disastrous mistake under financial or political pressure or both is a hard one to prove. But by all means take your best shot.

Hmmm. Someone who might make a disastrous mistake vs someone who intends to do disastrous things on purpose. How to decide…

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:58:22pm
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Reality Based Steve  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:58:34pm

re: #26 Lidane

Back from seeing Deadpool. A+ movie, would see it again. Love love love.

Also, a new Daredevil trailer? Today is a good day.

I saw Deadpool today too. It rocked.

RBS

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:58:58pm

Being a stupid award show watcher tonight. Grammys.

BUT just heard I have not missed Hamilton & the Jackson Browne & Eagles tribute to Glenn Frey.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:59:08pm

re: #37 Aunty Entity Dragon

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I see that Michele Fiore isn’t alone in mixing guns and children.

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Snarknado!  Feb 15, 2016 • 5:59:41pm

And now for something completely different… if there are any Chicago-area lizards who can help.

Early in March, I will have a five-hour layover in Midway airport, Chicago. Since I’m traveling from one warm place to another, I hadn’t planned to bring anything wintry, but then I scheduled the plane trip…. Will I be okay with just a sweater inside the airport, or should I bring the dratted jacket after all?

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:00:28pm

re: #28 De Kolta Chair

I’d like to recognize Justice Scalia for his greatest achievement: reminding us all of the importance of the makeup of the Supreme Court.

Fred Clark (Slacktivist) has a good, polite column on Scalia. patheos.com

The Rude Pundit has a good, very impolite one! rudepundit.blogspot.com

and Hooray! Stonekettle has a new post! stonekettle.com

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:00:32pm
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Belafon  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:00:55pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

AAARRRRGGGHHH

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*lights desk on fire*
*throws it out the window*

Reading through a few of the comments, every single one of them ignores the fact that the local government was against it and the emergency manager overrode them.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:00:58pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

The premise that non Republicans could not possibly ever (past or future) make a disastrous mistake under financial or political pressure or both is a hard one to prove. But by all means take your best shot.

Competence knows no party bounds.

You are arguing against a point I’m not making. I’m not asserting that all Democrats are competent. That’s false. Some are, some aren’t.

However, we’ve definitely reached the point where Republicans can’t be trusted with anything, down to and including the running of a 5 cent per drink lemonade stand.

Republicans don’t inhabit reality any more, and that’s dangerous when reality involves things like people getting poisoned if the water treatment is screwed up. Snyder can’t pray his way out of this.

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sagehen  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:01:02pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

Being a stupid award show watcher tonight. Grammys.

BUT just heard I have not missed Hamilton & the Jackson Browne & Eagles tribute to Glenn Frey.

You have not missed either of those, they’re upcoming.

When they early on mentioned “things we’ll see tonight”, no Bowie tribute was mentioned. I’m hoping that means they’re planning a surprise. It would be a travesty to let him go un-tributed.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:01:51pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

I see that Michele Fiore isn’t alone in mixing guns and children.

I always accessorized the baby carrier with a late model Kalashnikov. My biggest concern was whether to go classic 7.62x39 or be hip and use 5.45x39 with the snazzy red extended magazine.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:02:29pm

re: #44 Belafon

Reading through a few of the comments, every single one of them ignores the fact that the local government was against it and the emergency manager overrode them.

GOP malfeasance does not compute.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:02:43pm

re: #36 sagehen

Hmmm. Someone who might make a disastrous mistake vs someone who intends to do disastrous things on purpose. How to decide…

Terribly difficult, I know. Let me read 10 years of both siderist bullshit opinion columns by David Brooks and see if that helps.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:02:44pm
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Belafon  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:03:02pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:03:27pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

The premise that non Republicans could not possibly ever (past or future) make a disastrous mistake under financial or political pressure or both is a hard one to prove. But by all means take your best shot.

Competence knows no party bounds.

That’s not a reasonable conclusion from that post. The more reasonable conclusion is that a non-Republican has a lower probability of fucking it up, because at least the non-Republican believes that government should be doing whatever it is.

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Sophist: A life of quiet Jebsperation.  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:04:21pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

The premise that non Republicans could not possibly ever (past or future) make a disastrous mistake under financial or political pressure or both is a hard one to prove. But by all means take your best shot.

That’s not the claim. A non-Republican may pull this sort of shit. A Republican will pull this sort of shit..

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:04:21pm

re: #46 sagehen

You have not missed either of those, they’re upcoming.

When they early on mentioned “things we’ll see tonight”, no Bowie tribute was mentioned. I’m hoping that means they’re planning a surprise. It would be a travesty to let him go un-tributed.

Lady Gaga is supposed to be doing a tribute tonight.

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nines09  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:04:44pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

The usual “it’s the other guy” when his guy is standing neck deep in the shit. Reporting, op-ed, who can tell? Conservative cheer? More like a lap dance for the dogs you lick.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:04:53pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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And, after all, the kid was ‘no more than two’, so it’s not like he could ever READ it.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:05:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:05:02pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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They seem awfully concerned about what the parents of another child are choosing to do. So much for individual choice and I think the better a child especially a boy learns that he shouldn’t be threatened by feminism, the better. Feminism benefits us all, men and women both.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:05:19pm

re: #51 Belafon

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Unabogie  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:05:38pm

re: #32 Great White Snark

The premise that non Republicans could not possibly ever (past or future) make a disastrous mistake under financial or political pressure or both is a hard one to prove. But by all means take your best shot.

Competence knows no party bounds.

Well, I think the difference is one of intent. The vast majority of liberals believe in government, and are trying to make it work. They may make a horrible mistake, but they weren’t actively hostile to their own craft. It’s like Francis Ford Coppola making a shitty movie. Sure he can make a stinker now and then, but it’s not through lack of trying. While the Republicans are busy making Transformers IIV and Shrek: The Bride of Chucky Meets Stitch. They just turn out dreck because they really don’t care.

In other words, Democrats are Scorsese and Republicans are Michael Bay.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:05:57pm

re: #42 retired cynic

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:06:09pm

re: #60 Unabogie

Well, I think the difference is one of intent. The vast majority of liberals believe in government, and are trying to make it work. They may make a horrible mistake, but they weren’t actively hostile to their own craft. It’s like Francis Ford Coppola making a shitty movie. Sure he can make a stinker now and then, but it’s not through lack of trying. While the Republicans are busy making Transformers IIV and Shrek: The Bride of Chucky Meets Stitch. They just turn out dreck because they really don’t care.

In other words, Democrats are Scorsese and Republicans are Michael Bay.

I like the film analogy.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:06:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:06:52pm

Democrats of course are going make mistakes. That’s inevitable but Republican policy right now is set to fuck over the less well off for the benefit of the select few.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:06:52pm

re: #46 sagehen

You have not missed either of those, they’re upcoming.

When they early on mentioned “things we’ll see tonight”, no Bowie tribute was mentioned. I’m hoping that means they’re planning a surprise. It would be a travesty to let him go un-tributed.

Oh Gaga is handling that. Saw her OMG weird outfit.

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Belafon  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:07:32pm

re: #59 Kragar

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I know. And the girls he’s friends with would leave Ben as a whimpering puddle.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:07:41pm
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jaunte  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:07:53pm

Warning: Ben Shapiro goes to public parks, closely examines what little boys are wearing.

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retired cynic  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:08:04pm

re: #61 De Kolta Chair

You are most welcome!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:08:53pm

re: #59 Kragar

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I dunno. Ben looks like he could wish you into The Cornfield, if you catch my drift.

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Unabogie  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:09:36pm
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Great White Snark  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:10:10pm

re: #35 Blind Frog Belly White

A successful business model with balanced management puts the product first, and profits by way of quality and some efficiency. What you refer to is a distortion of a good business model. Before stock options replaced salaries for tax reasons, there was less pressure to do as you point out.

Just like government officials can stray from their key goals under pressure. The proper labels are perhaps “good at it” and “not good at it” and “criminally good or bad at it”. Was it wise to let stock options become the big paycheck for other than small cap companies? No. Now we know that was an awful idea. Was it a good idea to penalize high CEO salaries in such a way as stock options became a tax dodge? No we screwed ourselves. Our elected governance did that. CEO’s exploited the opportunity.

Our elected governance let infrastructures crumble. This is not a Republican phenomenon it’s famously a national one.

This is why party loyalty is a misguided act. Loyalty to facts and skill as can best be discerned is a far better method for us 99%er voters, particularly election years.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:10:23pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

They seem awfully concerned about what the parents of another child are choosing to do. So much for individual choice and I think the better a child especially a boy learns that he shouldn’t be threatened by feminism, the better. Feminism benefits us all, men and women both.

You know, I guess I just have a problem with people like conservatives that have problems with this writing:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

It all seems so simple to me. Clear, concise…where are the problems?

All I can think that could be added was a last sentence. Something like…And get your stinking noses out of others attempt to achieve the same. Or, shut the fuck up and sit down…I’m sick of your whining.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:10:37pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:11:00pm

I am officially OLD. These songs of the year…..nah

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:12:09pm

re: #71 Unabogie

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Am I the only one who sees Kirstle Alley when I see Fiore?

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:13:42pm

re: #68 jaunte

Warning: Ben Shapiro goes to public parks, closely examines what little boys are wearing.

Better send out the neighborhood watch notices.

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Kragar  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:14:13pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:16:41pm

My son is Ben’s age and he has 3 daughters: a 5-year-old and twin toddlers. He said being the father of girls has made him a feminist.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:17:54pm

She’s spent the last god knows how many minutes riding a tied electoral college scenario in the context of no Supreme Court confirmation.

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bratwurst  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:18:05pm

re: #41 Snarknado!

And now for something completely different… if there are any Chicago-area lizards who can help.

Early in March, I will have a five-hour layover in Midway airport, Chicago. Since I’m traveling from one warm place to another, I hadn’t planned to bring anything wintry, but then I scheduled the plane trip…. Will I be okay with just a sweater inside the airport, or should I bring the dratted jacket after all?

Don’t worry about having to bundle up at Midway! The only cold air you are likely to run into is briefly on the jetway exiting/boarding your flights. That may not even be a problem, meant to be close to 50 here by end of the week…could be early spring by the time you are here.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:18:43pm

re: #72 Great White Snark

A successful business model with balanced management puts the product first, and profits by way of quality and some efficiency. What you refer to is a distortion of a good business model. Before stock options replaced salaries for tax reasons, there was less pressure to do as you point out.

Just like government officials can stray from their key goals under pressure. The proper labels are perhaps “good at it” and “not good at it” and “criminally good or bad at it”. Was it wise to let stock options become the big paycheck for other than small cap companies? No. Now we know that was an awful idea. Was it a good idea to penalize high CEO salaries in such a way as stock options became a tax dodge? No we screwed ourselves. Our elected governance did that. CEO’s exploited the opportunity.

Our elected governance let infrastructures crumble. This is not a Republican phenomenon it’s famously a national one.

This is why party loyalty is a misguided act. Loyalty to facts and skill as can best be discerned is a far better method for us 99%er voters, particularly election years.

It is not my nonexistent ‘party loyalty’ to the Democrats that makes me insist that Republicans do not inhabit reality. It is the result of a lifetime’s worth of observations of the two parties in action and the paths they are both taking.

Most of your points above are reality based (unintended consequences etc.). That’s all great. It is also true that the blame for crumbing infrastructure is on both parties (although not equally in most cases).

However, when it comes time to try to fix the crumbling infrastructure, what would a Republican be good for? How does funneling more money to the Koch brothers, or amplifying racial tension in the US solve anything? The Republicans don’t pay any attention to anyone else. How is that going to help deal with a real world problem?

Republican denial of climate change is their model for dealing with all inconvenient truths.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:18:53pm

So to continue on something form downstairs. Krauthamemr actually argued the Democrats are hypocritical because he argues that if the situation had been reversed, the Democrats would be doing the same. Uh, hypocrisy is demonstrated behavior of doing one thing and saying another. A great example would be all the Republican senators who said President Bush’s judicial nominees regardless of their views getting a fair hearing and straight yes or no vote on the Senate floor now vowing to block whoever Obama nominates. I mean I get that Krauthammer is a hack who carries a ton of water for the GOP but that’s just lame sauce.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:19:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:19:07pm

re: #72 Great White Snark

A successful business model with balanced management puts the product first, and profits by way of quality and some efficiency. What you refer to is a distortion of a good business model. Before stock options replaced salaries for tax reasons, there was less pressure to do as you point out.

Just like government officials can stray from their key goals under pressure. The proper labels are perhaps “good at it” and “not good at it” and “criminally good or bad at it”. Was it wise to let stock options become the big paycheck for other than small cap companies? No. Now we know that was an awful idea. Was it a good idea to penalize high CEO salaries in such a way as stock options became a tax dodge? No we screwed ourselves. Our elected governance did that. CEO’s exploited the opportunity.

Our elected governance let infrastructures crumble. This is not a Republican phenomenon it’s famously a national one.

This is why party loyalty is a misguided act. Loyalty to facts and skill as can best be discerned is a far better method for us 99%er voters, particularly election years.

Businesses exist to make money. Period. They don’t exist to make and sell good products, or keep customers happy, or do the right thing. They exist to make money. Making and selling products is a MEANS, not an end, so it’s wishful thinking to say they put the product first. It’s one of those things they tell you to say, but it’s not really true.

That’s the reason why regulations exist - because businesses don’t exist to make good, safe products under safe work conditions while providing equitable compensation. They exist to make money. You have to force them to do what’s right, because even if one company is run by people who want to do what’s right, they can be driven out of business by a competitor who doesn’t give a shit about what’s right. See ‘Walmart’.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:19:32pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:20:13pm

Jackson fucked up the verse. but no matter. I was 3” from my TV dancing.

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Snarknado!  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:20:56pm

re: #81 bratwurst

Don’t worry about having to bundle up at Midway! The only cold air you are likely to run into is briefly on the jetway exiting/boarding your flights. That may not even be a problem, meant to be close to 50 here by end of the week…could be early spring by the time you are here.

Thanks! The long range forecasts I looked at suggested it would be colder — of course, we all know what long range weather forecasts are worth.

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ObserverArt  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:21:06pm

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

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She’s spent the last god knows how many minutes riding a tied electoral college scenario in the context of no Supreme Court nomination.

Saw that. Ugh.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:21:10pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Am I the only one who sees Kirstle Alley when I see Fiore?

Why, nope! She sure looks like a dead ringer!

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Sophist: A life of quiet Jebsperation.  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:21:12pm

re: #78 Kragar

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But Kragar, sometimes people who are feminists lie, or commit crimes, or say something mean. Therefore, anyone who calls themselves a feminist endorses all those actions, and is not a Good Person.

(Please note that this logic does not apply to anti-feminist groups, for a very good reason that I don’t have the time to explain right now)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:24:59pm

re: #90 Joe Bacon

Why, nope! She sure looks like a dead ringer!

Yeah glad it’s not just me. The big hair and heavily make up face.

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Great White Snark  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:25:33pm

re: #45 EPR-radar

Republicans don’t inhabit reality any more…

A brush too broad. Are there no competent Republican engineers? Military officers? Pilots? Managers? Police, firemen? I’d not make too many assumptions about the population at large myself. And of course any one of those people may find themselves upset at another republican who holds office and beat them at the polls. Maybe in a few months.

The capitol letter next to the name is the last thing I bother with, given the long list of far more important attributes or weaknesses to consider first.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:28:30pm

re: #93 Great White Snark

A brush too broad. Are there no competent Republican engineers? Military officers? Pilots? Managers? Police, firemen? I’d not make too many assumptions about the population at large myself. And of course any one of those people may find themselves upset at another republican who holds office and beat them at the polls. Maybe in a few months.

The capitol letter next to the name is the last thing I bother with, given the long list of far more important attributes or weaknesses to consider first.

When you build a political philosophy around the belief that government doesn’t work, you probably shouldn’t be allowed to be in charge of it. Similarly, I would not hire a Global Warming Denier as a Climate Scientist.

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EPR-radar  Feb 15, 2016 • 6:30:21pm

re: #93 Great White Snark

A brush too broad. Are there no competent Republican engineers? Military officers? Pilots? Managers? Police, firemen? I’d not make too many assumptions about the population at large myself. And of course any one of those people may find themselves upset at another republican who holds office and beat them at the polls. Maybe in a few months.

The capitol letter next to the name is the last thing I bother with, given the long list of far more important attributes or weaknesses to consider first.

You are correct that the brush got just a little too broad there. I should have said Republican elected officials don’t inhabit reality, and that is because a majority of Republican voters don’t inhabit reality.

You will also note that my original point about lessons learned from Flint was to not vote for Republicans. This is not the same thing as a suggestion to purge Republicans from the professions.

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austin_blue  Feb 15, 2016 • 9:59:56pm

re: #72 Great White Snark

A successful business model with balanced management puts the product first, and profits by way of quality and some efficiency. What you refer to is a distortion of a good business model. Before stock options replaced salaries for tax reasons, there was less pressure to do as you point out.

Just like government officials can stray from their key goals under pressure. The proper labels are perhaps “good at it” and “not good at it” and “criminally good or bad at it”. Was it wise to let stock options become the big paycheck for other than small cap companies? No. Now we know that was an awful idea. Was it a good idea to penalize high CEO salaries in such a way as stock options became a tax dodge? No we screwed ourselves. Our elected governance did that. CEO’s exploited the opportunity.

Our elected governance let infrastructures crumble. This is not a Republican phenomenon it’s famously a national one.

This is why party loyalty is a misguided act. Loyalty to facts and skill as can best be discerned is a far better method for us 99%er voters, particularly election years.

Um, I haven’t noticed blue states actively strangling government spending on infrastructure as policy. Having trouble raising the money to do it? Yes. But that’s not coming from the D side of the aisle.

The R’s seem to want to privatize the profit and socialize the cost on what have traditionally been local tax supported government functions, whether water supply systems in rural areas, schools, local electric utilities, ambulance services or, recently on a national level, a move to privatize the air traffic control system.

Grover Norquist’s ideal world of strangling government spending has always been the death of infrastructure projects, which have to be funded by bond packages. It’s just an incredibly stupid view of how to run a functional state.


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