“Men’s Rights Advocate” Robert Stacy McCain Suspended From Twitter

Hate-spewing far right loon gets suspended, turns into whining crybaby
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Credit: Jaunte

Far right blogger Robert Stacy McCain started his career as an openly racist neo-Confederate with white supremacist and neo-Nazi friends, then later magically transformed himself into a “men’s rights advocate” when he realized he could bilk the angry man-boys of the GamerGate crowd more effectively.

Last night, this hateful cretin was finally suspended by Twitter after years of abusing and harassing women (and yours truly, by the way). He still has an active second account, @SexTroubleBook, an account he started to promote his awful misogynist anti-feminist screed. But that isn’t stopping him from whining and crying that he’s been “censored,” because that’s what all these abusive right wing jerks do when they finally have to face some consequences — courageous culture warriors turn into crybabies at the drop of a hat.

Of course, right wing Twitter is ranting insanely about McCain being “censored,” even though he isn’t, and even the libertarian kooks at Reason magazine are getting into the act: Did Twitter’s Orwellian ‘Trust and Safety’ Council Get Robert Stacy McCain Banned?

Orwellian! Look out.

The wingnut troll community is getting even more paranoid than usual; they apparently thought they’d be able to run amok forever on Twitter, abusing and harassing women and liberals in general to their hearts’ content. But alas, it seems those halcyon days may be over.

(We’ll have to wait and see if this is actually a permanent ban, though, and not just one of Twitter’s ineffectual temporary suspensions.)

As a constant target of these creeps — for years — you’ll have to excuse me if I don’t spring to the defense of their “free speech” rights; do I even need to point out that as a private company, Twitter is not obligated to provide them with a platform to spew their noxious hatred?

Meanwhile, McCain has used his second account to post a special theory about your humble narrator:

How cool is that? “Literally” (not figuratively) possessed by a demon!

What’s that, Azazel? You need some more coffee? Yes, master, right away! BRB.

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612 comments
1
wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:09:36am

Thanks for keeping these bugs from hiding under the bed. Shine the light and show them the door!

I never noticed the tie tack before, jaunte. Nice!

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:12:23am

First Scalia, now RS McCain? Clearly Obama is taking out all his most dangerous enemies as a prelude to suspending the election and declaring himself Caliph-for-life! What other explanation could there be!?!!?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:12:35am

Suspended. Is this permanent? Or is it a temporary suspension?

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:13:51am
“as a private company, Twitter is not obligated to provide them with a platform to spew their noxious hatred”

McCain has his own website, but it’s not much of a draw.

5
Whack-A-Mole  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:15:01am

Was there a particular tweet or series of tweets that triggered the suspension or just cumulative asshattery?

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:17:02am

How do I get literally possessed by a demon? It sounds pretty cool. I never get to do cool stuff.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:17:26am

Sitting in the Urgent Care waiting room with Mrs. FBW (earache). There’s an automatic door. Some woman has neen standing near it, triiggering it every few seconds. Totally oblivious. I’d get in trouble if I shouted at her to get out of the detector’s range, I suppose

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:18:26am

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

I hope Mrs FBW is okay. She is in my payers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:20:03am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:20:55am

re: #8 PhillyPretzel

I hope Mrs FBW is okay.

Yes, thanks! It’s just that it’s Saturday, our doctor’s off, and she doesn’t want it to get worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:21:09am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:21:50am

That’s a damn, damn shame.

13
Joe Bacon  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:23:06am

I have had these same religious nuts utter the same BS to me about being possessed by demons. My reply, “Are you jealous?”. Their reaction—PRICELESS!

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:23:23am

bbl.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:23:23am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Overwhelmingly white”. Sounds like The Older Boy’s comlexion.

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Alephnaught  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:23:43am

Am I the only one who finds it amusing that Mr McCain now has to continue on Twitter under the name “Sex Trouble”?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:26:15am

re: #5 Whack-A-Mole

Was there a particular tweet or series of tweets that triggered the suspension or just cumulative asshattery?

I searched for a reason and asked on Twitter if anyone knew why he was suspended, but couldn’t turn up anything.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:26:27am

re: #6 SoundGuy 2016

How do I get literally possessed by a demon? It sounds pretty cool. I never get to do cool stuff.

dragonage.wikia.com

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:28:00am

re: #18 Not a Sparkly Vampire

dragonage.wikia.com

Rrroww rrroww.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:28:40am

Another super-classy endorsement for Ted Cruz!

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Usually refered to as anyways  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:31:08am

Tap, tap, tap.

Is their anybody out there?

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:31:09am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Another super-classy endorsement for Ted Cruz!

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‘Soft focus’ only works for so long, Pam……

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Jay C  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:33:12am

So, Charles: if you’re possessed by a demon, can you maybe convince him to conjure up an additional funding source for LGF, so we can do away with all those bandwidth-consuming ads??

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:33:22am

First, they came for Chucksie and his fake accounts, and I laughed.
Then, they came for Milo’s checkmark, and I laughed.
Then they came for Foghorn Smeghorn, and I laughed some more.
They won’t come for me, because I’m not an asshole.

As for Twitter’s stock dropping… It never occurred to these geniuses that dickheads like them might be the reason people were leaving the platform, and perhaps this “censorship” is Twitter finally doing something about its persistent harassment problem.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:36:27am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Another super-classy endorsement for Ted Cruz!

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Why didn’t the lens crack?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:38:16am

re: #25 Joe Bacon

Why didn’t the lens crack?

I’m more surprised she casts an image.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:39:06am

re: #6 SoundGuy 2016

How do I get literally possessed by a demon? It sounds pretty cool. I never get to do cool stuff.

I’m reading Stacy Schiff’s “The Witches: Salem, 1692” right now. Apparently, you may already be possessed. That is why you are posting misleading evil-liberal disinformation here.

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Naked Bunny with a Whip  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:40:31am

Time to remake The Exorcist, where people figure out Regan is possessed by a demon because she’s the only one who isn’t an unrelenting asshat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:44:30am

From my FB feed:

Worth reading…
“Newt Gingrich: The Wisdom Of Antonin Scalia”

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:46:00am

Charles, when we log onto Little Green Footballs do we need to increase our antidemon protection level? Currently mine is set to ‘normal.’ Considering this thread and these very troubling revelations I’m thinking I need to go all the way up to ‘possession likely - maximum protection.’

Just asking qwestions ‘cuz I don’ wanna go to no hell now.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:48:12am

re: #27 Barefoot Grin

I’m reading Stacy Schiff’s “The Witches: Salem, 1692” right now. Apparently, you may already be possessed. That is why you are posting misleading evil-liberal disinformation here.

See! I knew it. There you go…and before I changed settings.

I’m going to get the garlic and silver cross exorcism demon relief program going. This could take all day, and my computer will probably be resistant.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:50:01am

re: #30 ObserverArt

Charles, when we log onto Little Green Footballs do we need to increase or antidemon protection level. Currently mine is set to ‘normal.’ Considering this thread and these very troubling revelations I’m thinking I need to go all the way up to ‘possession likely - maximum protection.’

Just asking qwestions ‘cuz I don’ wanna go to no hell now.

If heaven is full of people like Jerry Falwell, I think I’d prefer eternal damnation.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:51:28am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And in South by dog Carolina, the voters are white and the poll workers are not.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:52:03am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

If heaven is full of people like Jerry Falwell, I think I’d prefer eternal damnation.

I don’t think that there’s any damger of that.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:54:05am
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:55:28am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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So irrelevant they can’t stop posting how irrelevant you are!

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Alephnaught  Feb 20, 2016 • 11:56:21am

re: #6 SoundGuy 2016

How do I get literally possessed by a demon? It sounds pretty cool. I never get to do cool stuff.

You’ll know when you end up iphoto’d in one of those #RichDemonsOfInstagram feeds. “Check out my latest posession, y’all!!! LOL!!! #CoolPosessionHashtagEtc” etc

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:01:56pm

You’re so irrelevant I want to tell the world and all my friends how irrelevant you are you irrelevant person you.

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CarolJ  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:03:01pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Listening to an afternoon of 70’s music. Rooting for Hillary.

I have a theory about why they keep bugging you. They survive on wingnut welfare. They can’t believe that you left that horrible world, and still survive as an independent, and not only survive, but even thrive. Your survival means that being an apostate isn’t the road to hell (literal or figuratively).

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Alephnaught  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:06:16pm

re: #38 SoundGuy 2016

You’re so irrelevant I want to tell the world and all my friends how irrelevant you are you irrelevant person you.

“You’re so irrelevant, I want to demonstrate your actual relevance that I previously denied, by introducing you as the main subject of a conversation.”

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:07:45pm

CBS News trying to convince me that Clinton is in trouble in NV. Is that true?

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:08:00pm

re: #40 Alephnaught

“You’re so irrelevant, I want to demonstrate your actual relevance that I previously denied, by introducing you as the main subject of a conversation.”

On social media so the whole wide world can see!

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rtth  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:08:32pm

I once made the mistake of mentioning that this guy was a massive racist during a conversation on Twitter. Apparently he scans Twitter for mentions of his name, because he promptly showed up in my mentions to start berating me.

Yeah, anyways, big surprise he got banned.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:09:02pm

re: #41 freetoken

CBS News trying to convince me that Clinton is in trouble in NV. Is that true?

It depends on the definition of ‘is.’

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:10:08pm

re: #44 ObserverArt

It depends on the definition of ‘is.’

I am not a CBS intern!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:14:55pm

re: #41 freetoken

CBS News trying to convince me that Clinton is in trouble in NV. Is that true?

I don’t think so.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com
We shall see.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:15:21pm

So, I thought Nevada was a caucus state.

How is it that CBS already have exit polls?

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:16:57pm

Four hours before the polls close. NEWS!!!

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gocart mozart  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:18:42pm

A song to live by although I have been known to fall short of its wisdom.
Professor Elemental & Tom Caruana: Don’t Feed The Trolls

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:22:08pm

Cruzbot: “[we’re] fighting for religious liberty…”

Of course that is only code word for something else, which they never explicitly elaborate.

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Nyet  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:22:51pm

LOL, finally.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:23:16pm

Cruzbot just blamed Carson for not keeping private meeting private…

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:26:26pm

Ok, so CBS are doing “entrance” polls… which shows Hillary with a large lead among women… then how is this a close race, unless men outnumber women significantly among attendees?

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:27:14pm

re: #51 Nyet

LOL, finally.

RSM gets his, Rubio sets Breitbrats in a hissy by saying Website Not Credible, All Conspiracy Theories.

I gotta say it’s a good day.

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Nyet  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:33:02pm

re: #54 SoundGuy 2016

Wasn’t a principled stance, but we’ll take it ;)

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:35:47pm

Ted Cruz using Scalia’s funeral as a campaign prop I find ironically manipulative.

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:38:34pm

Just ‘cause it’s handy:

Still, after all these years.

I’ve been working with the Image Library, instead of reloading them off my desktop every time. Shrinking my data footprint.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:39:40pm

CBS talking head sez, wrt Scalia’s funeral: “somber day for all Americans”.

No, not this American.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:40:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:42:21pm

re: #58 freetoken

CBS talking head sez, wrt Scalia’s funeral: “somber day for all Americans”.

No, not this American.

Nor this one. I feel sorry for his family but he was very much against equal rights for all Americans so no it’s not a somber day at all.

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:43:53pm

re: #58 freetoken

CBS talking head sez, wrt Scalia’s funeral: “somber day for all Americans”.

No, not this American.

I suppose it would be poor form to say, ‘A somber day for 32% of Americans,’ or something that implied a poll was taken….

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:44:31pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

All death brings sadness. At least to someone. I’m sure Scalia’s family (his son did part of the service) are grieving.

But, I believe my country would have been better off with a justice more in tune to the 21st century on that bench, the past couple of decades.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:44:55pm

re: #62 freetoken

All death brings sadness. At least to someone. I’m sure Scalia’s family (his son did part of the service) are grieving.

But, I believe my country would have been better off with a justice more in tune to the 21st century on that bench, the past couple of decades.

Exactly.

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Belafon  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:45:09pm

re: #58 freetoken

CBS talking head sez, wrt Scalia’s funeral: “somber day for all Americans”.

No, not this American.

And few thousand people died or will die today.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:45:43pm

re: #64 Belafon

And few thousand people died or will die today.

On any given day, tens of thousands of Americans die.

All should be mourned.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:45:57pm

re: #64 Belafon

And few thousand people died or will die today.

Right. I mean let’s not revise what Scalia was and what he did stand for. I hate it when the media does this. The guy was a jerk. I’m sorry. The court will be better off without his presence.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:46:17pm

re: #65 freetoken

On any given day, tens of thousands of Americans die.

All should be mourned.

Why didn’t Obama attend Aunt Nancy’s funeral? //

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:46:28pm
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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:47:54pm

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Why didn’t Obama attend Aunt Nancy’s funeral? //

Because he was golfing or on SNL.

AT THE SAME TIME.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:48:06pm

BENGHAZI! EMAIL! GOLDMAN-SACHS!

CBS talking head repeating the memes.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:52:34pm

New outlets and their headlines… this one from CBS:

New data: Donald Trump loses support ahead of South Carolina primary

Sounds serious, right?

Well, here’s the results of all their wonky machinations:

If we apply these switch rates to our previous results, here is how we would now estimate the vote split in Saturday’s primary:

Donald Trump — 36 percent

Ted Cruz — 22 percent

Marco Rubio — 21 percent

John Kasich — 8 percent

Jeb Bush — 4 percent

Other — 7 percent

So Trump now, in CBS’ calculation, only leads by 14.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:53:24pm

That’s gonna leave a mark (sorry if this has already been posted—can’t remember)

Re: Breitbart

“We don’t even credential them for our events,” Rubio replied, before adding, “I literally don’t even talk about the things they report because they’re conspiracy theories and often times manipulated.”

rawstory.com

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:53:27pm

These new outlets are working to manipulate voting in real time.

That’s my take-away.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:54:23pm

re: #71 freetoken

New outlets and their headlines… this one from CBS:

New data: Donald Trump loses support ahead of South Carolina primary

Sounds serious, right?

Well, here’s the results of all their wonky machinations:

So Trump now, in CBS’ calculation, only leads by 14.

The media already is eager to spin another Marco bronze medal as a win I guess despite the fact that Marco’s got support from SC’s governor and one of its senators. That’s going to be the narrative tonight if it’s Trump-Cruz-Rubio.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:55:23pm

re: #72 BeachDem

That’s gonna leave a mark (sorry if this has already been posted—can’t remember)

Re: Breitbart

“We don’t even credential them for our events,” Rubio replied, before adding, “I literally don’t even talk about the things they report because they’re conspiracy theories and often times manipulated.”

rawstory.com

Ouch.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:56:58pm

re: #74 HappyWarrior

The media already is eager to spin another Marco bronze medal as a win I guess despite the fact that Marco’s got support from SC’s governor and one of its senators. That’s going to be the narrative tonight if it’s Trump-Cruz-Rubio.

Repeat from last thread:

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:57:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:57:57pm

re: #76 BeachDem

Repeat from last thread:

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Yep correct.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 12:58:13pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

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The poor widdle victim needs a hug.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:00:59pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

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I can’t imagine being lucky enough to vacation in New Zealand and spending my time whining about Twitter on Facebook.

But that’s just me…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:01:32pm

re: #80 BeachDem

I can’t imagine being lucky enough to vacation in New Zealand and spending my time whining about Twitter on Facebook.

But that’s just me…

Wingnut privilege.

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Belafon  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:02:37pm

re: #80 BeachDem

I can’t imagine being lucky enough to vacation in New Zealand and spending my time whining about Twitter on Facebook.

But that’s just me…

It’s obvious your priorities aren’t properly ordered. //

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:03:41pm

CBS sez the Nevada caucus goers don’t think Clinton is honest or trustworthy.

Basically.

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Unabogie  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:03:54pm

People over at the Daily Bern are making me disgusted. In light of the daily atrocities the GOP is openly campaigning on, they think their biggest enemy is Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

I know this is falling on deaf ears there, but I posted a diary. If you have an account there, I could use some love.

dailykos.com

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:05:47pm

re: #84 Unabogie

{{{ unabogie }}} I can only give love/hugs here at LGF.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:05:59pm

Hmm… Chuck C Johnson is being persecuted.

Charles C. Johnson, King of the Journalists on his cross

(From my vault 12/14)

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Belafon  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:06:24pm

re: #84 Unabogie

I will rec your diary, but I got so tired of them I no longer even go to see the APR or the midday open thread.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:07:36pm

re: #84 Unabogie

People over at the Daily Bern are making me disgusted. In light of the daily atrocities the GOP is openly campaigning on, they think their biggest enemy is Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

I know this is falling on deaf ears there, but I posted a diary. If you have an account there, I could use some love.

dailykos.com

I don’t have an account at DK but I appreciate your post anyhow. I’m seeing a lot more posts on my FB feed whining about Clinton, DWS, and the Dem establishment than people who should be terrified by Trump, Cruz, and Rubio. And I’m sick of the patronizing bullshit by Sanders supporters that everyone who supports Clinton is merely advocating settling. I actually think her record and rhetoric is a lot more inclusive than his is. And I really did not like hearing that some of his past immigration rhetoric is anything but progressive.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:08:20pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

Nice photo editing; but now I need some brain bleach and some really dark sunglasses.

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:08:42pm

It amazes me how rabid the Berners are about anything not Bernie or not GOP.

Like the GOP doesn’t exist.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:11:10pm

Muslim-American Group Condemns Donald Trump’s Praise of ‘Pig’s Blood’ Technique to Stop Terrorists

Mr. Awad called Mr. Trump’s language dangerous.

“He further implies that our nation should adopt a strategy of systematized violence in its engagement with the global Muslim community, a chilling message from a potential leader,” he said. “We pray that no one who hears this message follows his gospel of hate.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:11:11pm

What I’m sick of is anytime Clinton defends her record or criticizes his, she’s being unfair but if he does it, he’s speaking truth to power or showing how he’s not bought. Got news for them. He panders, she panders, he’s lied, and she’s lied. Stop acting like Sanders is somehow above the sort of things that you claim to despise in Clinton. I’ll be the first to admit that Clinton has her problems but when you patronize and act like Bernie’s pure as the driven snow then you lose me big time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:11:41pm

re: #91 freetoken

Muslim-American Group Condemns Donald Trump’s Praise of ‘Pig’s Blood’ Technique to Stop Terrorists

Good for them. Unfortunately that will probably embolden his bigotry even more. MUSLIMS ARE TRYING TO CENSOR DONALD!

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Unabogie  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:11:56pm

re: #90 SoundGuy 2016

It amazes me how rabid the Berners are about anything not Bernie or not GOP.

Like the GOP doesn’t exist.

I swear, it occurs to me that many of them are actually GOPers stirring up shit. I can’t imagine a liberal actually being this stupid.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:12:45pm

re: #84 Unabogie

People over at the Daily Bern are making me disgusted. In light of the daily atrocities the GOP is openly campaigning on, they think their biggest enemy is Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

I know this is falling on deaf ears there, but I posted a diary. If you have an account there, I could use some love.

dailykos.com

Good diary. I’m not a member (but I voted in your poll.) They have completely gone off the rails—even in your poll, half of the votes are for vote 3rd party or not at all.

Again I mention that if enough of the purist snowflakes do that, we could win the electoral college while losing the popular vote, and wouldn’t that just put us in a strong position when dealing with the obstructionists in Congress.

argghhh

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:14:13pm

re: #95 BeachDem

Good diary. I’m not a member (but I voted in your poll.) They have completely gone off the rails—even in your poll, half of the votes are for vote 3rd party or not at all.

Again I mention that if enough of the purist snowflakes do that, we could win the electoral college while losing the popular vote, and wouldn’t that just put us in a strong position when dealing with the obstructionists in Congress.

argghhh

What bugs me is they want to be able to do that and still insist that they’re the Democratic base. I saw someone with an anarchist avatar shitting on Bogie’s diary. I’m sorry but you’re not part of a party’s base if you’re constantly having a tantrum whenever a candidate isn’t ideological good enough for your liking.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:15:42pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

What I’m sick of is anytime Clinton defends her record or criticizes his, she’s being unfair but if he does it, he’s speaking truth to power or showing how he’s not bought. Got news for them. He panders, she panders, he’s lied, and she’s lied. Stop acting like Sanders is somehow above the sort of things that you claim to despise in Clinton. I’ll be the first to admit that Clinton has her problems but when you patronize and act like Bernie’s pure as the driven snow then you lose me big time.

The stupidest is the “Only one of us ran against Obama in 2008” bullshit to counter Hillary pointing out that Bernie called for someone to primary Obama in 2012.

It’s ludicrous on its face, as we didn’t have an incumbent Dem, and it’s not even factually correct, as Hillary declared before Obama, so technically, he was running against her.

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Unabogie  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:16:06pm

re: #95 BeachDem

Thanks. Diaries there with conspiracy theories about the DNC or Hillary get hundreds of recs. And my diary, which points out an actual conspiracy to commit the actual crime of torture, gets scoffed at as “guilt”, “fear”, and “establishment”.

I know they don’t represent everyone, but they represent enough people that we should all be scared. The stupidity is strong.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:16:16pm

Close race so far but 538 advises that very little of Clark County (where Vegas is) has been counting and Clark County is a big Clinton stronghold.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:16:26pm

Pierce’s latest:

Phil Robertson Is in South Carolina Vomiting Homophobia in Support of Ted Cruz

While holding a Bible. Oh, and Cruz is watching.

[…] Over the last few days, the competing parties have referenced and embraced urban myths about killing Muslims with bullets dipped in pig’s blood (Donald Trump), and they accused their opponents of treating the now-lowered gonfalon of Confederate sedition “as a social disease” (Ted Cruz), and they have distributed fake photos of their opponent shaking hands with the incumbent president of the United States (Cruz, again). On Friday evening, at an airplane hangar at the airport in Columbia, a candidate’s prominent surrogate made the following case for his man. Quite literally thumping a Bible, the surrogate said:

Incidence, prevalence, and cost of sexually transmitted infections in the United States. You want to legalize unnatural acts, sexual acts? Men and women just decided what marriage was, you say. What does the CDC say about morality? About 50.5 million current infections are in men alone. While 59.5 million are in women. For a total of 110 million of Americans with STDs at any given time… “You reap what you sow, the man said. Don’t you get it? That’s fact. You want to argue with the Center for Disease Control? Go ahead. One out of three of us are carrying a disease that’s sexually transmitted. There are now 39 million deceased. 36 million have the disease, HIV, AIDS. God says, ‘Don’t do that.’ Clean woman, clean man, they marry, they keep their sex between the two of them, you won’t get a sexually transmitted disease, ever.”

The crowd in the hangar came alive. “Talk, preacher!” they yelled. “God’s word!,” although I don’t recall any passages about VD in the gospels. They broke, frequently, into howling, wild applause.

[…]

Fundamentalism is, very much, about sex.

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:17:15pm

Obama is for creating just one more job and the GOP is against it. Why are they against job creation?

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VegasGolfer  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:17:24pm

re: #90 SoundGuy 2016

dailykos.com
Now they are tryin to gang up on Will Ferrell because he changed from bernie to hillary,
this and using a fox poll to say bernie is beating hillary, they are getting desperate, imo.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:17:30pm

re: #98 BeachDem

The stupidest is the “Only one of us ran against Obama in 2008” bullshit to counter Hillary pointing out that Bernie called for someone to primary Obama in 2012.

It’s ludicrous on its face, as we didn’t have an incumbent Dem, and it’s not even factually correct, as Hillary declared before Obama, so technically, he was running against her.

Yeah that one really bothered me and i had a big problem with Hillary and her campaign’s rhetoric in 2008 but she had every right to run. The field was wide open. It’s totally different than what Bernie actually did when the President was an incumbent President with a record. Really frustrates me to see people I know are intelligent otherwise push that fallacy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:18:37pm

re: #101 freetoken

Pierce’s latest:

Phil Robertson Is in South Carolina Vomiting Homophobia in Support of Ted Cruz

The crowd in the hangar came alive. “Talk, preacher!” they yelled. “God’s word!,” although I don’t recall any passages about VD in the gospels. They broke, frequently, into howling, wild applause.

[…]

Fundamentalism is, very much, about sex.

We got one party that wants to treat Muslims in America like people and another whose views on them would be at home in the BNP, UKIP, and the various Eurofascist parties but the purer than thou want to tell us there’s no difference between the parties.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:19:08pm
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KGxvi  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:22:16pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Fundamentalism is, very much, about sex.

I always think about the old line “Puritanism is the enduring fear that someone, somewhere, is having a good time.” Fundamentalism is basically the same thing, an enduring fear that someone, somewhere is or is about to have sex, and likely enjoy it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:24:22pm

re: #107 KGxvi

I always think about the old line “Puritanism is the enduring fear that someone, somewhere, is having a good time.” Fundamentalism is basically the same thing, an enduring fear that someone, somewhere is or is about to have sex, and likely enjoy it.

I have to say. I’m really cynical about Evangelicals even younger ones growing on this issue. I think what our problem isn’t merely generational but also we have one group of Americans firmly placed in the 21st century. It appears to me that Ted Cruz and much of his support base haven’t even entered the 20th yet.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:24:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:25:23pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

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That’s a good one. Pamela Geller has “common sense.” I like jokes too.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:25:53pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

Hmm… Chuck C Johnson is being persecuted.

Image: Charles C. Johnson, King of the Journalists on his cross(From my vault 12/14)

He has speaketh

Ted Cruz will narrowly defeat Donald Trump tonight in South Carolina.

Posted by Charles C. Johnson on Saturday, February 20, 2016
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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:26:32pm

re: #99 Unabogie

Thanks. Diaries there with conspiracy theories about the DNC or Hillary get hundreds of recs. And my diary, which points out an actual conspiracy to commit the actual crime of torture, gets scoffed at as “guilt”, “fear”, and “establishment”.

I know they don’t represent everyone, but they represent enough people that we should all be scared. The stupidity is strong.

Wait—one of the commenters in your diary says, “vote Sanders and prosecute the torture that led to someone’s death. There is no statute of limitations on murder.”

Unless I’m wrong, the only one who ever advocated that was O’Malley. (And do the Berniacs know that Sanders is for prosecuting their hero, Edward Snowden? He called for a light sentence, but prosecution nonetheless.)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:26:54pm

re: #111 Dr. Matt

He has speaketh

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He’s going to be in for a disappointment. In fact, I wager there’s a better chance that Cruz finishes close to or even behind Rubio than he does ahead ot Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:28:11pm

re: #112 BeachDem

Wait—one of the commenters in your diary says, “vote Sanders and prosecute the torture that led to someone’s death. There is no statute of limitations on murder.”

Unless I’m wrong, the only one who ever advocated that was O’Malley. (And do the Berniacs know that Sanders is for prosecuting their hero, Edward Snowden? He called for a light sentence, but prosecution nonetheless.)

I honestly want to poll some of Bernie’s most devoted supporters and see how many of them know that Bernie’s been in Congress since 1990. I hate to be hard on many of them since a lot of them are just kids, yeah me calling someone a kid but humor me since this will be my third presidential election I’ll be voting in.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:29:36pm

Cloudflare is telling me the Nevada caucus site is offline.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:30:18pm

Is this a taste of the socialist dystopia that Bernie promises?

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:31:25pm

Now back online… and 10 more precincts reporting… and the candidates are tied.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:32:09pm

With his successful litigation record, Twitter must be scared shitless

I’m interviewing lawyers to help me sue Twitter. Someone has to stand up to them and it might as well be me.More details after I get back from vacation.

Posted by Charles C. Johnson on Saturday, February 20, 2016
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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:32:16pm

… 23 more precincts… Bernie pulls ahead by 1 point…

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:32:29pm

re: #116 freetoken

Is this a taste of the socialist dystopia that Bernie promises?

I am hungry for cold bland tasteless dystopia pudding.

If you don’t eat your meat you can’t have any pudding.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:32:42pm

re: #119 freetoken

… 23 more precincts… Bernie pulls ahead by 1 point…

Gonna be a long night..

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:33:37pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Vicious, cruel bigotry is not the same thing as patriotism, Ms. Gellar.

Also, no one cares what a gin soaked, hate addict thinks.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:34:35pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Gonna be a long night..

All the NV numbers should be counted in a couple of hours, correct?

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:34:39pm
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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:34:48pm

CNN appears to be further along than the Nvcaucus site (26% reporting). They show Hillary slowly increasing her lead, now just under 4 percent.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:34:48pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

I honestly want to poll some of Bernie’s most devoted supporters and see how many of them know that Bernie’s been in Congress since 1990. I hate to be hard on many of them since a lot of them are just kids, yeah me calling someone a kid but humor me since this will be my third presidential election I’ll be voting in.

I hereby decree that after November, you can begin telling people to get off your lawn!

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Unabogie  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:34:56pm

Nate Silver says Hillary is on track to win…

fivethirtyeight.com

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:35:17pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

That only happens with silver based emulsions.

Someone was sold for thirty pieces of silver once upon a time and the metal has been working off its guilt ever since.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:35:42pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

With his successful litigation record, Twitter must be scared shitless

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What exactly is he going to sue them for? Hurting his fee-fees?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:35:54pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

I’m interviewing lawyers to help me sue Twitter.

I imagine he’s getting a lot of J. Jonah Jameson laughs.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:36:28pm

re: #123 freetoken

All the NV numbers should be counted in a couple of hours, correct?

Anything yet from Clark county?

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:37:11pm

re: #131 BeachDem

Anything yet from Clark county?

21% of Clark County reporting, with Hillary up 56-44.

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scottslemmons  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:37:20pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

With his successful litigation record, Twitter must be scared shitless

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“Interviewing lawyers” to find one dumb enough to sue a major corporation for no reason and get spanked into oblivion.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:38:12pm

re: #132 Brian J.

21% of Clark County reporting, with Hillary up 56-44.

Thanks. That’s supposed to be her strongest area, so…

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Unabogie  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:38:13pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

My first election was 1988 and Michael Dukakis. Even then I was a Democrat, but I can’t lie and say I didn’t buy into all the conspiracy theories I heard on lefty radio. Now that I’m going into my 8th presidential election, I’ve grown up a lot and the number one goal for me is to treat the election like the NBA draft. Vote for the best available candidate who can win.

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KGxvi  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:38:23pm

re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White

I imagine he’s getting a lot of J. Jonah Jameson laughs.

I feel sorry for the associate they send in to interview him (because no self respecting law partner is going to waste their time after ten minutes of research). Although I’m also sure that instead of the Jameson laughs he gets “we charge $600 an hour, we will need a retainer of $25,000 to start, and that will be earned on reciept.”

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:38:53pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

With his successful litigation record, Twitter must be scared shitless

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Interesting. That means his current lawyer Mark Meuser wouldn’t do it for him, probably because he knew it was bullshit and he couldn’t win, and might even end up getting sanctioned by the bar for a frivolous lawsuit.

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Nyet  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:41:07pm

I support Clinton because of her record, and not as a lesser evil. I say that as someone who actually lost all respect for her in 2008. She’s earned it back. I think she’s most qualified and reliable of all the candidates.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:41:30pm

re: #126 BeachDem

I hereby decree that after November, you can begin telling people to get off your lawn!

Getting there.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:41:59pm

re: #135 Unabogie

“Vote for the best available candidate who can win.”

I agree, that is the best thing you can do next to voting.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:42:53pm

re: #118 Dr. Matt

I’d like to see what Popehat and Marc Randazza say about this quixotic escapade, or if they have been contacted by Le Furby au Rage.

Also, the asshole clearly doesn’t understand the whole point of a vacation is to disconnect from the world and chill. Assholes will be assholes, I guess.

Is Twitter incorporated in CA?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:43:16pm

I really look at who also will be most effective. I think Hillary despite tempermentally being not as progressive as Sanders (though his record on immigration and guns is not progressive at all) would be a much more effective President.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:44:20pm

re: #84 Unabogie

People over at the Daily Bern are making me disgusted. In light of the daily atrocities the GOP is openly campaigning on, they think their biggest enemy is Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

I know this is falling on deaf ears there, but I posted a diary. If you have an account there, I could use some love.

dailykos.com

Gave you some props!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:44:36pm

re: #138 Nyet

I support Clinton because of her record, and not as a lesser evil. I say that as someone who actually lost all respect for her in 2008. She’s earned it back. I think she’s most qualified and reliable of all the candidates.

Finally, another one like me. I didn’t like her or her campaign at all in 2008. I just didn’t but I really think she’s learned some lessons from that campaign and I think she’s more qualified now than ever. I don’t see her as a lesser evil either. In fact, I think she sees the bigger picture on a lot of issues that Bernie is just arguing Wall Street on and it’s not that simple.

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:46:06pm

That guy’s jersey is great. I don’t think in this case the ‘puto’ means the Filipino steamed rice cake.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:46:24pm

I look at this another way. I think she’s much more prepared than he is. I think she understands the world around us much better than Bernie or any Republican does. I haven’t gotten an impression he really understands FP that well. Kudos for the correct vote on Iraq Bernie but you need to show me that you understand more than that.

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:46:57pm

Hillary has experience. With a crapton of presidential stuff. And dealing with detractors. She’s the most experienced candidate out of the entire lot.

Bernie has some good ideas, he’s an idealist. I think he’s a good dude.

But I’d laugh in somebody’s face if they asked me if I’d vote for GOP before either of them.

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Nyet  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:47:39pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Arguably she’s more progressive in the FP area too, unless being progressive there means unthinking pacifism/giving dictators what they want through isolationism.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:48:46pm

re: #147 SoundGuy 2016

Hillary has experience. With a crapton of presidential stuff. And dealing with detractors. She’s the most experienced candidate out of the entire lot.

Bernie has some good ideas, he’s an idealist. I think he’s a good dude.

But I’d laugh in somebody’s face if they asked me if I’d vote for GOP before either of them.

I think he’s got some good ideas too. I just think he misses the big picture when he thinks racism can simply be attributed to economic inequality. It really isn’t that simple. I think he really does have his heart in the right place especially on economic inequality but I want him to show that he understands our societal problems go beyond that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:49:12pm

re: #148 Nyet

Arguably she’s more progressive in the FP area too, unless being progressive there means unthinking pacifism/giving dictators what they want through isolationism.

There is that too.

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TedStriker  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:49:40pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

If heaven is full of people like Jerry Falwell, I think I’d prefer eternal damnation.

Laugh with the sinners rather than cry with the saints, right?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:52:14pm
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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:53:03pm

re: #151 TedStriker

Laugh with the sinners rather than cry with the saints, right?

The sinners have much more fun.

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:55:47pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I think he’s got some good ideas too. I just think he misses the big picture when he thinks racism can simply be attributed to economic inequality. It really isn’t that simple. I think he really does have his heart in the right place especially on economic inequality but I want him to show that he understands our societal problems go beyond that.

Bingo. Bernie has serious CR cred, except for his defaulting to economic issues when confronted with policing and racial components in the judicial system.

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TedStriker  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:57:46pm

re: #153 Brian J.

The sinners have much more fun.

Only the good die young (but evil seems to live forever).

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:58:22pm

re: #154 SoundGuy 2016

Bingo. Bernie has serious CR cred, except for his defaulting to economic issues when confronted with policing and racial components in the judicial system.

Not really. He was at the March on Washington, but where’d he go for the next 50 years? What did he say about Rodney King or Amadou Diallo or Ferguson, for example? You don’t have “cred” if you do nothing about a cause for half a century.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:58:36pm

re: #154 SoundGuy 2016

Bingo. Bernie has serious CR cred, except for his defaulting to economic issues when confronted with policing and racial components in the judicial system.

I don’t question Bernie’s committment to progressive principles beyond economics. I question his grasp of their urgency.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:59:08pm

re: #154 SoundGuy 2016

Bingo. Bernie has serious CR cred, except for his defaulting to economic issues when confronted with policing and racial components in the judicial system.

I’ve seen this first hand myself. I reside in one of the most wealthy areas in the country but I have witnessed discriminatory practices by LEO. I mean it’s not that I don’t think economic inequality is NOT a problem, I think he’s right on about it but he misses the picture when he attributes Wall Street to problems that have existed for generations and it’s easy to see why that makes civil rights activists see him as someone who doesn’t understand their cause. Plus I think he could do a better job meeting with people and listening to their concerns too. Clinton’s come off to me as a much better listener in this debate and I think that means something.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 1:59:50pm

Clinton appears to be holding on to a small lead. But she’ll get more delegates anyway, so it doesn’t matter.

And, the Nevada DP caucus counting website is behind.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:00:27pm

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t question Bernie’s committment to progressive principles beyond economics. I question his grasp of their urgency.

Bingo. Sergey, if you’re still here, it reminds me of a conversation we had about socialists who are so focused on their economic revolution that they don’t see the problems of sexism, homophobia, or racism or in the case of the Russian Communist Party as you’ve told us engage in it themselves.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:02:38pm

What I find interesting is that the CBS talking head just represented an exit poll as being a “result”.

I’m no Trump fan, but I find this highly suspicious.

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SoundGuy 2016  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:03:55pm

If Bernie grasped current racial politics with fervor, and picked up some FP cred, I’d vote for him before Hillary. As I’m in a state that is so far down the road it’s pretty much moot what I care.

There is absolutely no doubt I’d vote for either of them before any of the insane GOP dimwits.

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:03:57pm

I don’t know if anyone else here has looked at #BlackMenGreetings, but it has had some prizes.

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:04:10pm

40% in for Clark County now with 10 point lead for Hillary, tough for Bernie if that holds up.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:04:13pm

re: #161 freetoken

What I find interesting is that the CBS talking head just represented an exit poll as being a “result”.

I’m no Trump fan, but I find this highly suspicious.

In the case of Nevada, it wasn’t even an exit poll; it was an entrance poll. People can change their minds in the caucuses when the candidates’ representatives talk to them.

Just under half the vote in, Hillary by 4. That’s probably a 19-16 delegate split in her favor, superdelegates not included.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:05:11pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

Bingo. Sergey, if you’re still here, it reminds me of a conversation we had about socialists who are so focused on their economic revolution that they don’t see the problems of sexism, homophobia, or racism or in the case of the Russian Communist Party as you’ve told us engage in it themselves.

When all you have is a hammer and sickle, every problem looks like a class struggle.
//

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:06:34pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

When all you have is a hammer and sickle, every problem looks like a class struggle.
//

Heh.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:06:59pm

Fox News has called Nevada for Hillary

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TedStriker  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:07:00pm

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t question Bernie’s committment to progressive principles beyond economics. I question his grasp of their urgency.

And, judging by his temper tantrums in regards to his non-support of downticket Democratic candidates, Bernie is as much a dudebro as his most sycophantic fans.

Fuck him.

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Sionainn  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:07:08pm

re: #41 freetoken

CBS News trying to convince me that Clinton is in trouble in NV. Is that true?

Not sure. In my precinct, we had 3 delegates for Bernie and 2 for Hillary. In a couple of other precincts, my friends were reporting the opposite. I think it’s going to be close.

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Unabogie  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:07:09pm

re: #143 Joe Bacon

Thanks, but it’s a lost cause. Four recs on the diary so far, and six votes for not voting or voting third party. That site has been taken over by cranks.

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:07:09pm

re: #165 Brian J.

In the case of Nevada, it wasn’t even an exit poll; it was an entrance poll. People can change their minds in the caucuses when the candidates’ representatives talk to them.

Just under half the vote in, Hillary by 4. That’s probably a 19-16 delegate split in her favor, superdelegates not included.

I think even more important is to stall the perceived Berniementum.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:07:29pm

re: #162 SoundGuy 2016

If Bernie grasped current racial politics with fervor, and picked up some FP cred, I’d vote for him before Hillary. As I’m in a state that is so far down the road it’s pretty much moot what I care.

There is absolutely no doubt I’d vote for either of them before any of the insane GOP dimwits.

I’d like that but also more acknowledgment of building up a Democratic majority in Congress. He hasn’t shown me he gets how vitally important that is.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:07:36pm

NV DP caucus result website is down again… obviously not well designed.

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:08:56pm

Well…

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:11:06pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

I don’t know if anyone else here has looked at #BlackMenGreetings, but it has had some prizes.

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He stole that from Key and Peele!

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:11:46pm

re: #175 blueraven

Karl Rove hasn’t called it though. //

His superpac was campaigning for Bernie so…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:12:27pm

re: #176 Barefoot Grin

He stole that from Key and Peele!

I do love that tehy were able to meet him. Jordan Peele does the best Obama impression i’ve seen. Never really liked Fred Amirsen’s on SNL. And besides with Peele’s Obama, you get Keegan Michael Key as Luther, the President’s Anger Translator.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:12:34pm

Coming up on CBSN… Katrina Pierson!

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:12:47pm

re: #175 blueraven

Well…

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Bernie really needed a Nevada win.

I early voted for him today in Texas though, when he is president he is going to break up the big banks that ISIS uses.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:12:48pm

re: #175 blueraven

Well…

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Very good news for Hillary. After she crushes him in S.C., maybe the media’s bernie mania will cool somewhat. They have been almost drooling with anticipation for crisis in Clintonland!

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:13:58pm

re: #181 Big Beautiful Door

There will always be a crisis in Clintonland.

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:14:25pm

re: #181 Big Beautiful Door

Very good news for Hillary. After she crushes him in S.C., maybe the media’s bernie mania will cool somewhat. They have been almost drooling with anticipation for crisis in Clintonland!

Has someone called and asked for DailyKos to be put on suicide watch?

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:15:39pm

MSNBC just called Nevada for HRC

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:15:46pm

NBC calls Nevada for Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:15:51pm

Yeah I think it’s safe to say she won this.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:16:18pm

Well, the fat lady is singing for Benie…

Sanders will get his 30 minute speech at the DN convention, will rally for his cause, then slip away into history.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:18:10pm

re: #187 freetoken

Well, the fat lady is singing for Benie…

Sanders will get his 30 minute speech at the DN convention, will rally for his cause, then slip away into history.

You think this was it for him?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:18:16pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Interesting. That means his current lawyer Mark Meuser wouldn’t do it for him, probably because he knew it was bullshit and he couldn’t win, and might even end up getting sanctioned by the bar for a frivolous lawsuit.

Also is there any evidence that any of Chuck’s lawyers have ever gotten a dime for their work? He seems to prey on gullible, likeminded ideologues like Burns and the right winger who defended him against the NAF subpoena, who donate their time, then usually come to regret it.

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Major Tom  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:18:20pm

Stunning Victory.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:18:50pm

Katrina not wearing any necklace…

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:19:06pm

I wonder how Sheldon Adelson’s new newspaper will report Hillary’s win?

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:19:23pm

Posted to Jimmah’s lovely Page:

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:19:30pm

Katrina got in one sentence…

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:20:21pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

You think this was it for him?

It doesn’t help him any seeing as he is way behind in S.C. polls.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:20:38pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

Posted to Jimmeh’s lovely Page:

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You gotta be fucking kidding me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:20:49pm

re: #195 Big Beautiful Door

It doesn’t help him any seeing as he is way behind in S.C. polls.

Yeah that’s true.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:21:17pm

re: #181 Big Beautiful Door

Very good news for Hillary. After she crushes him in S.C., maybe the media’s bernie mania will cool somewhat. They have been almost drooling with anticipation for crisis in Clintonland!

All I can tell you is that I was up till 2:45 this morning helping my “campaign kid” put together packets for her Hillary canvassers and phone bankers today here in south by dog carolina—day of action from 9a-9p. I hate phone banking/canvassing, so I’m in for data entry and taking food to the offices to keep the team fortified.

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:21:25pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

Posted to Jimmeh’s lovely Page:

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Whoa!

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:21:29pm

“… slayer of the queen” - phrase used by CBS talking head, in discussing Bernie’s win over Hillary in NH.

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:22:47pm

re: #198 BeachDem

All I can tell you is that I was up till 2:45 this morning helping my “campaign kid” put together packets for her Hillary canvassers and phone bankers today here in south by dog carolina—day of action from 9a-9p. I hate phone banking/canvassing, so I’m in for data entry and taking food to the offices to keep the team fortified.

Clap, clap, clap. Good for all of you. Thank you for your work.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:23:27pm

re: #200 freetoken

“… slayer of the queen” - phrase used by CBS talking head, in discussing Bernie’s win over Hillary in NH.

When you come to kill the queen, you best not miss.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:23:39pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

You think this was it for him?

No, but it’s not a good sign for his campaign, loss in NV called early and he’s going to face a certain blowout in SC. Then on to Super Tuesday where he’s current down in 10 out of 12 races.

This was always how it was going to be, but the media loved the idea of a horse race because that amps up ratings and ad revenue. Maybe if Sanders’ campaign learned how stop clapping on the one and three, and started addressing every single problem with the exact same monomaniacal economic solution it would’ve been different.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:24:14pm

re: #203 goddamnedfrank

No, but it’s not a good sign for his campaign, loss in NV called early and he’s going to face a certain blowout in SC. Then on to Super Tuesday where he’s current down in 10 out of 12 races.

This was always how it was going to be, but the media loved the idea of a horse race because that amps up ratings and ad revenue. Maybe if Sanders’ campaign learned how stop clapping on the one and three, and started addressing every single problem with the exact same monomaniacal economic solution it would’ve been different.

So not the end but the beginning of the end? Yeah I see it now that I’m looking at what’s coming up.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:26:29pm

Uh oh, “SELLOUT/BOUGHT/ESTABLISHMENT TOADY” Jim Clyburn talking positively about Hillary. Cue the whining from the you-know-whos.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:26:37pm
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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:27:58pm

re: #203 goddamnedfrank

And the media are prepping for the coming Clinton vs. Repbulican campaign, so it’s important to fix certain ideas in the audiences’ minds about what this whole thing is about.

The planting of story-lines is important - all of TV, movies, theatre do this kind of thing. It’s not just foreshadowing, but a way of shaping the audience experience, by defining the boundaries of what they ought to expect.

So what is being repeated over and over about Clinton:
- she has a hard time with “trust”
- she has a hard time with young people
- she has a hard time with males
and so on. This is going to be the narrative in the coming main event against the Republican from the set of {Trump|Cruz|Rubio}.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:28:15pm

And CNN joins the crowd and gives Hillary the star of victory.

By the way, she now leads by enough in the 4th Congressional District, according to The Green Papers, to win an extra delegate there, giving her a 20-15 win overall.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:29:14pm

re: #200 freetoken

“… slayer of the queen” - phrase used by CBS talking head, in discussing Bernie’s win over Hillary in NH.

Who is the moron CBS talking head saying all this stuff? (I’m still trying to figure out who “George” was who asked the question about will Obama be playing golf instead of going to Scalia’s funeral.)

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:29:34pm

re: #207 freetoken

And the media are prepping for the coming Clinton vs. Repbulican campaign, so it’s important to fix certain ideas in the audiences’ minds about what this whole thing is about.

The planting of story-lines is important - all of TV, movies, theatre do this kind of thing. It’s not just foreshadowing, but a way of shaping the audience experience, by defining the boundaries of what they ought to expect.

So what is being repeated over and over about Clinton:
- she has a hard time with “trust”
- she has a hard time with young people
- she has a hard time with males
and so on. This is going to be the narrative in the coming main event against the Republican from the set of {Trump|Cruz|Rubio}.

I thought she’d have it easier than Obama did. Now I don’t think so.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:29:49pm

re: #209 BeachDem

Just some CBS news guy. I can’t keep track of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:30:08pm

re: #207 freetoken

So what is being repeated over and over about Clinton:
- she has a hard time with “trust”
- she has a hard time with young people
- she has a hard time with males
and so on. This is going to be the narrative in the coming main event against the Republican from the set of {Trump|Cruz|Rubio}.

Things that need to be repeated about the GOP

they have a hard time with “truth”
they have a hard time with anyone who is not middle aged or older
they have a hard time with anyone not white and male

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:31:25pm

The Huerta article that Jimmah posted has some good information that Guttierez did not include in his Telemundo op-ed.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:33:39pm

re: #207 freetoken

And the media are prepping for the coming Clinton vs. Repbulican campaign, so it’s important to fix certain ideas in the audiences’ minds about what this whole thing is about.

The planting of story-lines is important - all of TV, movies, theatre do this kind of thing. It’s not just foreshadowing, but a way of shaping the audience experience, by defining the boundaries of what they ought to expect.

So what is being repeated over and over about Clinton:
- she has a hard time with “trust”
- she has a hard time with young people
- she has a hard time with males
and so on. This is going to be the narrative in the coming main event against the Republican from the set of {Trump|Cruz|Rubio}.

And remember, on the Republican side, third-place is a WIN to prop up water boy, while for Dems, anything less than a 20% victory is “questionable.”

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Sionainn  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:35:01pm

If it’s any consolation, in my precinct, which had more Bernie supporters than Hillary, the Bernie supporters were all very nice and we were talking about how it really doesn’t matter to us which one gets the nomination. We were all cool with voting for either candidate.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:35:21pm

The ugly truth of Bernie’s campaign is that it’s always thought it could run on a thin patina of minority outreach. Whenever called on it his supporters have only ever retreated to platitudes about how minorities just don’t know his record, how he marched with MLK, about how Hillary supported the 90’s crime bill while deliberately omitting the fact that Sanders voted for that bill.

The campaign has had months to correct this mess, but they’ve insisted on staying the same course, sticking with the same one size fits all solution to everything and navigating through by using younger, disaffected, mostly white angst as their North Star. They did this because they see that Trump is onto something and the theory is this year is the year of the political outsider, and is driven by populist anger over “establishment” politics. So the plan was always to get the nomination in a way that preserved as much white Trump crossover support as possible, and simply leave minorities with no other plausible choice but to vote Democrat.

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:37:24pm

re: #215 Sionainn

If it’s any consolation, in my precinct, which had more Bernie supporters than Hillary, the Bernie supporters were all very nice and we were talking about how it really doesn’t matter to us which one gets the nomination. We were all cool with voting for either candidate.

Good to hear. The jerks might be mostly an internet phenomenon, as with Luap Nor.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:39:31pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

Good to hear. The jerks might be mostly an internet phenomenon, as with Luap Nor.

I think it mostly is an internet thing as with most things. I really think most Sanders supporters do have their heads screwed on right, they just are looking for something different than I am in a nominee and I respect and understand that but man the people who did that to Ms. Huerta, y’all can go fuck yourselves.

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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:39:32pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Huerta is an 85 year old saint. All 85 year old women deserve respect. Dolores deserves an altar.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:40:13pm

re: #219 wrenchwench

Huerta is an 85 year old saint. All 85 year old women deserve respect. Dolores deserves an altar.

Indeed.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:42:04pm

“Rubio was anti-establishment before anti-establishment was cool” - just said by a Rubiobot.

Really.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:43:54pm

re: #221 freetoken

“Rubio was anti-establishment before anti-establishment was cool” - just said by a Rubiobot.

Really.

I thought that was Ron Paul. Rubio even though he’s only been in the Senate since 2010 is pertty much textbook establishment and about as cool as Lima Beans.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:44:30pm

re: #221 freetoken

Rubio is such a horrible tool he couldn’t even make it as a Sears branded tool, much less a Craftsman. Maybe a Menard’s house brand (Tool Shop), but that’s about it.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:45:39pm

Bob Schieffer looking really old… but sort of sounds the same.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:48:17pm

re: #224 freetoken

From Wiki: en.wikipedia.org

At 78 he is still at work and all I can say is that is great.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:49:28pm

re: #225 PhillyPretzel

From Wiki: en.wikipedia.org

At 78 he is still at work and all I can say is “that is great.”

Jim Lehrer’s gotta be over 80 now and probably will still moderate the Presidential debates. Wouldn’t be a presidential debate without him.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:49:38pm

Schieffer worries about whether the pig’s blood tale is true or not… not that Trump made the equation “terrorist”=Muslim.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:50:13pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

True.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:53:27pm

538 is saying that Clinton won the African-American vote by 54 points. Now Nevada isn’t as heavily African-American as SC and the other southern states coming up are but that is something that should be discussed.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:55:37pm

Still no word on the Hispanic vote but I think it’s fair to assume she won that as well but not at that margin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:55:44pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:56:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:56:35pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I am disgusted.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:57:53pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

twitter.com

Just like I imagine he thinks Night is anti-German propaganda. HE does realize that the hero of that book is a white man though right.

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stpaulbear  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:58:33pm

re: #227 freetoken

Schieffer worries about whether the pig’s blood tale is true or not… not that Trump made the equation “terrorist”=Muslim.

Every time I’ve seen anything with Schieffer, he’s been a complete tool. As bad as Chuck Todd or Wolf.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:58:44pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

CCJ cannot accept the fact that Nellie Harper Lee was a successful author and her books are still read and discussed. Putting it as simply as possible he is jealous.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 2:59:55pm

re: #236 PhillyPretzel

CCJ cannot accept the fact that Nellie Harper Lee was a successful author and her books are still read and discussed. Putting it as simply as possible he is jealous.

Children 100 years from now will be reading that book. I imagine he won’t even have a wiki page.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:00:42pm

WTF is he rambling about? Does he NOT see blue check!?

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:00:50pm

re: #236 PhillyPretzel

CCJ cannot accept the fact that Nellie Harper Lee was a successful author and her books are still read and discussed. Putting it as simply as possible he is jealous.

I’m surprised he hasn’t attacked her personally.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:01:24pm

re: #238 Dr. Matt

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WTF is he rambling about? Does he NOT see blue check!?

Probably drinking the same hate vokda that Nero does.

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Usually refered to as anyways  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:01:50pm

For shits and giggles…

Donald Trump meets Game of Thrones

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:02:14pm

re: #236 PhillyPretzel

CCJ cannot accept the fact that Nellie Harper Lee was a successful author and her books are still read and discussed. Putting it as simply as possible he is jealous.

Why Atticus Finch Matters

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:03:26pm

re: #242 BlueSpotinAL

Why Atticus Finch Matters

What’s really neat is Gregory Peck who played Atticus was quite a progressive guy himself. Peck’s easily my favorite old time actor. Plus the guy had a Guinness tap in his home.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:04:10pm

re: #242 BlueSpotinAL

I agree that Atticus Finch matters but if there is an article I would like to read it. :)

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:04:39pm

Regarding Harper Lee’s death: I do like how everyone is pretending Go Set a Watchman was never published. Because that’s the only proper response.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:06:55pm
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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:07:43pm

Well, this has been a fine day. Finally decided to buy a new car. After the deal was done, while the salesman was demoing the features the engine died and stayed dead.

He drove us home in our trade in.

Just fucking swell.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:08:30pm
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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:10:02pm

I like how CBS uses “conservative” and “establishment” as euphemisms without them realizing it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:11:42pm

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

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It’s a good cause.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:12:23pm

CBS talking head brings up the idea of Jeb! spending millions of dollars and not getting many votes, and making it sound like this is conventional wisdom … and not mentioning that this is one of Trump’s major campaign stump speeches.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:12:45pm

It’s kind of amazing to see how Trump has been able to shape the language around this election.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:13:08pm

re: #252 freetoken

It’s kind of amazing to see how Trump has been able to shape the language around this election.

He can’t be underestimated.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:14:33pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

He can’t be underestimated.

What you did there… I saw it.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:15:47pm

re: #254 Reality Based Steve

What you did there… I saw it.

RBS

Actually……..an accident I am that clever.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:15:59pm

My best friend works for the Bernie campaign.

I sent her a little message about how my side won.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:16:10pm

All this polling is about magick words.

Trigger words - that is what these polls contain.

I’d love to see a poll where all the questions have been edited to take out the trigger words.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:16:20pm

re: #252 freetoken

It’s kind of amazing to see how Trump has been able to shape the language around this election.

Pig’s blood.

Like, people are actually talking about bullets dipped in pig’s blood.

Holy fuck.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:16:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:17:27pm

re: #258 goddamnedfrank

Pig’s blood.

Like, people are actually talking about bullets dipped in pig’s blood.

Holy fuck.

We’re also talking about how we could be doing worse things than waterboarding. Man as cynical as this sounds, if I had the money and a job I could get overseas, I’d take it. I’m really cynical about a large amount of our electorate and knowing that these are my neighbors.

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:17:47pm

re: #259 Dr. Matt

Donald Trump will give them their talking points.

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retired cynic  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:18:24pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

How come so many of them are eggs? /

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:18:32pm

re: #259 Dr. Matt

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The spin I’m seeing is that she was once up 40 points. And I concede that’s likely true but I’d also point that when you have a more known quantity like her against someone like Sanders who was little known, of course you’re going to have things like that.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:19:20pm
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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:20:06pm

re: #263 HappyWarrior

The spin I’m seeing is that she was once up 40 points. And I concede that’s likely true but I’d also point that when you have a more known quantity like her against someone like Sanders who was little known, of course you’re going to have things like that.

Yeah, he’s never really lost. He’s just been behind when time ran out.

Speaking of, I was proud to vote for Hillary in early voting today. Hopefully, we won’t have to blow Bernie out one more time, but if we do, I’ve done my bit.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:21:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:21:30pm

re: #259 Dr. Matt

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Already seeing that Bernie “won” because Hillz was supposed to win by a landslide.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:21:49pm

T+54 years and counting. Godspeed, John Glenn

Facebook Post

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:22:19pm

Nolte and Pophat going at it. This won’t end well for Nolte.

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:22:21pm

LA Times headline:


Hillary Clinton narrowly defeats Bernie Sanders in Nevada caucuses

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:23:06pm

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

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As I got at earlier, this really disgusts me. Ms. Huerta has been on the front of important issues for a very long time now. She did not deserve this disrespect and even if she weren’t a prominent activist, she did not deserve this. That’s not the Democratic Party that welcomed my non-English speaking relatives with open arms while the Republican Party was flirting with the Know-Nothings.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:24:01pm

re: #268 Shiplord Kirel

T+54 years and counting. Godspeed, John Glenn

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He lived not too far from where my Dad did. When he went back to space, Dad was telling me about how he got to meet him and shake his hand. Tons of admiration for him and all the astronauts.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:24:56pm

re: #265 Brian J.

Yeah, he’s never really lost. He’s just been behind when time ran out.

Speaking of, I was proud to vote for Hillary in early voting today. Hopefully, we won’t have to blow Bernie out one more time, but if we do, I’ve done my bit.

And honestly I understand that, politics involves the art of spin but it’s just not that simple.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:25:25pm

Reportedly, this was his tenth Trump rally

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:26:24pm

re: #274 De Kolta Chair

He must have some kind of light sensitivity.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:26:29pm

So ti’s clear, I don’t hold all Sanders supporters responsible for that and I know the ones here on LGF would never condone that kind of behavior but it is really disheartening ot see that sort of thing in a Democratic Caucus.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:26:58pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:27:58pm

Tell me again how the Bernie Bro is a myth.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:28:38pm

re: #268 Shiplord Kirel

T+54 years and counting. Godspeed, John Glenn

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Proud to have had him as an Ohio Senator.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:28:42pm

re: #278 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:28:53pm

It got pretty warm today:

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:29:17pm

re: #278 goddamnedfrank

Tell me again how the Bernie Bro is a myth.

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It doesn’t help that his worst CD is the 4th, where the Democrats lost a House seat in 2014 that they desperately need to regain if they’re going to win control of the House (or reduce the Republican majority to where they can’t elect a Speaker).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:29:44pm

re: #278 goddamnedfrank

Tell me again how the Bernie Bro is a myth.

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You know just as I don’t like it when white Republicans/conservatives talk down to African-Americans and bring up old history (the alignment of the parties on slavery during the lead up to the Civil War), I don’t like it being done by supporters of this campaign either. This guy’s a condescending asshole.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:31:11pm

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Considering how I was unreasonably mean to my best friend over a candidate in difference, when she already agrees with me on 90% of everything, some Hillary supporters (Me) are not much better.

Yes, I take politics personally, but I shouldn’t. But the emotional impulses are such a nasty struggle for me, and I lose 40-50% of the time.

I really need to learn the concept that I can have friends, or I can be right.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:31:52pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

Still no word on the Hispanic vote but I think it’s fair to assume she won that as well but not at that margin.

The koskids are throwing around a “Bernie won Hispanics by 11” even with no numbers to count, but we all know how well they deal with reality. If Hillary won Hispanics by 11tybillion, they’d attribute it to “Harry Reid intimidated the union workers in Las Vegas” and ‘splain how losing is winning when you’re feeling the bern.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:32:07pm

re: #278 goddamnedfrank

Tell me again how the Bernie Bro is a myth.

He seems nice

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:33:12pm

re: #284 Ziggy_TARDIS

Considering how I was unreasonably mean to my best friend over a candidate in difference, when she already agrees with me on 90% of everything, some Hillary supporters (Me) are not much better.

Yes, I take politics personally, but I shouldn’t. But the emotional impulses are such a nasty struggle for me, and I lose 40-50% of the time.

I really need to learn the concept that I can have friends, or I can be right.

You shouldn’t take it personally. People aren’t always going to agree. Take the people who do treat you as a friend regardless of candidate preference and understand that. Hell my own brothers are both staunch Bernie guys and don’t understand why me the former idealist isn’t backing him.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:33:35pm

re: #285 BeachDem

The koskids are throwing around a “Bernie won Hispanics by 11” even with no numbers to count, but we all know how well they deal with reality. If Hillary won Hispanics by 11tybillion, they’d attribute it to “Harry Reid intimidated the union workers in Las Vegas” and ‘splain how losing is winning when you’re feeling the bern.

If Bernie won Hispanics by 11%, he would have won the state.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:33:47pm

re: #274 De Kolta Chair

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:33:55pm

SMH

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:34:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:34:59pm

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

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The Goldwater Girl diss really? Yeah let’s attack people for what they were when they were teenagers.

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:36:40pm

Yes, Jon and didn’t you say earlier today if more than 70,000 turned out to caucus that would be bad for Hillary? Oh, Yes. Yes you did.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:37:14pm

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

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I was a Goldwater kid. I was 15 (Hillary was 16). Fuck this idiot.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:37:34pm

re: #280 jaunte

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MovieJay retweets racist assholes like this one:

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:38:05pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:38:06pm

re: #287 HappyWarrior

I feel bad about it now.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:38:27pm

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Children 100 years from now will be reading that book. I imagine he won’t even have a wiki page.

Charlie Pierce:
There are a handful of movie scenes that make the room very, very dusty for me…”Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father’s passing…”

She taught us what simple humanity was before we were old enough to put a name to it. She taught us-gently, as was the fashion of the times-that there was something very wrong at the heart of the America in which we were being raised…Stand up. Miss Lee’s passing.

esquire.com

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:40:35pm
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retired cynic  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:41:09pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

We hit 80! Amazing. I have the doors open and a fan running.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:41:29pm
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withak  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:41:55pm

re: #300 retired cynic

We hit 80! Amazing. I have the doors open and a fan running.

43 and feels like 50 here. We’re going to grill. In February.

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retired cynic  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:42:31pm

re: #284 Ziggy_TARDIS

You just don’t have to say everything that you think. Go ahead and cheer internally!

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thecommodore  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:42:49pm

re: #65 freetoken

On any given day, tens of thousands of Americans die.

All should be mourned.

Exactly. I am not glad he is gone. I wish he had stepped down from the Court before dying.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:45:42pm

A TV’s Frank twofer

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:46:13pm

re: #304 thecommodore

Exactly. I am not glad he is gone. I wish he had stepped down from the Court before dying.

Scalia hated Bush because he wanted to be elevated to Chief Justice and W brought in Roberts and there was no way in hell Scalia would willfully let Obama replace his successor.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:46:51pm

re: #290 Dr. Matt

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SMH

That Chuck Todd, he’s one of the best!

Imagine…Bernie is running against the Democratic Establishment. The same establishment he hasn’t been a part of for a long part of his career. And, he doesn’t get the party support like Chuck must think is his due.

Brilliance!!! (gag!)

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:46:55pm

re: #293 blueraven

However, I do wonder if this pattern of lower than previous (2008) turnout is a signal of a deeper problem.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:47:36pm

In SC, some are saying the turnout is heavy, and others say it is typical. I guess we’ll find out later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:47:42pm

smh

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:48:08pm

re: #308 freetoken

Yes. Apathy is a big problem.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:48:33pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

The Goldwater Girl diss really? Yeah let’s attack people for what they were when they were teenagers.

Why not? Look at what Obama got away with when he was born.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:48:33pm

re: #295 De Kolta Chair

MovieJay retweets racist assholes like this one:

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Looking at his timeline I don’t see anything that would strike me as particularly racist. He’s a Hillary supporter, and there whole lot of stuff there taking Sanders to task in regards to some of his supporters and some perceived racial myopia.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:48:34pm

There is another reason why I dislike Bernie.

The fact he doesn’t give explanations for how he will get there sounds familiar. Because I have been getting the same treatment from many fellow Muslims on the relationship front. The constant “It will happen,” with no explanation of how I would meet someone, especially given my 2 unusual circumstances, really, really grates on my nerves.

And he sounds just like him.

Though, I have become more rational in this. My previous way of trying to get help was stupid, and counter productive, and had I been more closely paying attention to where I got the idea, I would have realized it at the time.

To be fair, I have gotten help on this. My Imam tried his best in OKC, going to anybody possible (more than once too), and one of the Mosques in Dallas, where I now live, is actively helping me. And the Imams can be harsh on the community for excluding converts, far harsher than any pastor of any Church I went to before I converted.

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:49:13pm

re: #308 freetoken

However, I do wonder if this pattern of lower than previous (2008) turnout is a signal of a deeper problem.

It would be hard for anyone to create the excitement of Obama in 2008.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:50:22pm

Bernie has his day. I am glad that someone tried to pull the Overton window in a direction other than towards medieval theocracy and perpetual war.

But I think Bernie has peaked.

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danarchy  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:53:00pm

re: #293 blueraven

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Didn’t Hillary win the nevada caucus in 2008 with that high turnout and all.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:53:29pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:53:33pm

re: #315 blueraven

It would be hard for anyone to create the excitement of Obama in 2008.

Yep. This is a map of the line for the Obama event in St. Paul on the day that he secured the nomination to run for prez. I was going to go but went back home to listen on the radio. I can confirm that the line was this long.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:54:09pm

re: #307 ObserverArt

That Chuck Todd, he’s one of the best!

Imagine…Bernie is running against the Democratic Establishment. The same establishment he hasn’t been a part of for a long part of his career. And, he doesn’t get the party support like Chuck must think is his due.

Brilliance!!! (gag!)

Bernie’s been on friendly terms with “the establishment” for years. He’s relied upon them to cover his left flank and in turn he’s caucused with them and voted for bills that they supported. They’ve even (*gasp!*) used campaign donations to fund ads for his reelection bids. And he only changed his party registration last year to Dem in order to run in their primaries. So this idea that he’s an “outsider” is bullshit, he’s as dependent on the “establishment” as Hillary is.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:54:24pm

re: #313 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Looking at his timeline I don’t see anything that would strike me as particularly racist. He’s a Hillary supporter, and there whole lot of stuff there taking Sanders to task in regards to some of his supporters and some perceived racial myopia.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I was checking out his timeline and stopped at the retweet I posted. I guess he was making trying to make a point.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:55:50pm

In SC, the most noted exit poll result has been that three fourths of the voters agreed with Trump about banning Muslims.

And that “terrorism” is the #1 issue.

Lindsay Graham just said this could be the largest turnout in the history of the state.

Put all those together, and it smells like a Trump blow out.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:57:39pm

re: #322 freetoken

Where is the Republican Convention going to be?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:57:42pm
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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:58:27pm

re: #323 Ziggy_TARDIS

Where is the Republican Convention going to be?

To quote the Deteriorata, “Whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Cleveland.”

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:58:45pm

Networks fiddling with the voting:

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Jay C  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:59:05pm

re: #316 freetoken

Bernie has his day. I am glad that someone tried to pull the Overton window in a direction other than towards medieval theocracy and perpetual war.

But I think Bernie has peaked.

You might be right. I realize I am a borderline Old already, (mental attitude notwithstanding), but the whole “Feel the Bern” hoopla puts me in m ind of nothing so much as the “Clean for Gene” movement back in 1968. I know it’s not an exact parallel: bad as our present troubles may seem, there’s not a bloody war in progress; and Bernie Sanders is actually a far more “radical” politician than Eugene McCarthy ever was - but on a political level, the similarities are fairly uncanny: the same appeal to youth, the same fervor based on a single issue, the same anti-Establishment disdain; and sadly, the same arrogant intolerance (based on “moral superiority”, of course) of so (too) many of the followers. Hopefully, Bernie can hang to have more of an influence on the nominating process and the Convention than Gene McCarthy did.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:59:07pm

re: #323 Ziggy_TARDIS

Where is the Republican Convention going to be?

Cleveland.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 3:59:34pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Remember when Bernie “denounced” these people and said “that’s not who we are”? Ah, good times.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:00:25pm

re: #325 Brian J.

To quote the Deteriorata, “Whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Cleveland.”

Well yeah that’s why my great great grandfather took his family from Cleveland to Pittsburgh and the rest is history. Heh just ribbing Cleveland, it could be worse.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:00:47pm

And the polls have closed in SC, and CNN calls it for… Trump, Cruz and Rubio as “Early leaders” with Bush, Carson and Kasich as “Second tier.”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:00:52pm

re: #325 Brian J.

Oh boy, Cleveland has quite a number of Muslims.

I could see some serious ugliness.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:01:12pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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God just admit that some of your supporters acted like assholes already. Is it really so fucking hard?

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:01:50pm

According to the numbers on CNN’s exit poll, it’s Trump 30, Cruz 26, Rubio 23, Bush 7, Kasich 7, Carson 7.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:02:09pm

re: #322 freetoken

In SC, the most noted exit poll result has been that three fourths of the voters agreed with Trump about banning Muslims.

And that “terrorism” is the #1 issue.

Lindsay Graham just said this could be the largest turnout in the history of the state.

Put all those together, and it smells like a Trump blow out.

That smells Trump to me too and possibly Cruz too.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:02:27pm

Three-way tie. Too close to call. I would love to see Rubio to win just cause more havoc.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:02:57pm

re: #334 Brian J.

According to the numbers on CNN’s exit poll, it’s Trump 30, Cruz 26, Rubio 23, Bush 7, Kasich 7, Carson 7.

Time for another victory speech by the GOP’s version of the Buffalo Blils, Marco Rubio!

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:03:26pm

re: #334 Brian J.

According to the numbers on CNN’s exit poll, it’s Trump 30, Cruz 26, Rubio 23, Bush 7, Kasich 7, Carson 7.

I think this might be the last we’ve seen of two, if not all three “also-rans.” Bush was banking on SC to be his blow-out moment and it hasn’t happened. And Carson is running on fumes, his campaign is likely gonna have to start selling furniture at this rate if it wants to keep any money coming in. Kasich might hold out longer, but probably not longer than Super Tuesday.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:03:32pm

re: #336 Dr. Matt

Three-way tie. Too close to call. I would love to see Rubio to win just cause more havoc.

Nah, I want him to finish in third despite the backing of the governor and one of the senators.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:03:32pm

re: #334 Brian J.

And keep in mind that those are the answers they got. They may not be entirely correct.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:04:02pm

re: #340 PhillyPretzel

And keep in mind that those are the answers they got. They may not be entirely correct.

True. I know NBC had Sanders winning in the first version of their Nevada entrance poll.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:04:30pm

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Nah, I want him to finish in third despite the backing of the governor and one of the senators.

I want a third place finish because it means the “3-2-1” strategy will have been thoroughly torpedoed and finally begins to sink to Davy Jones.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:05:01pm

re: #342 Targetpractice

I want a third place finish because it means the “3-2-1” strategy will have been thoroughly torpedoed and finally begins to sink to Davy Jones.

Yep, it would put him in a big hole.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:05:11pm

re: #313 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Looking at his timeline I don’t see anything that would strike me as particularly racist. He’s a Hillary supporter, and there whole lot of stuff there taking Sanders to task in regards to some of his supporters and some perceived racial myopia.

“Bernie Sanders wins Latinos by 8%, but like Rihanna to Chris Brown, black voters at #NVDemsCaucus run back into the arms of the Clintons.”

Comparing black voters to abused women because they don’t vote for Sanders is racist.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:06:14pm

re: #344 jaunte

“Bernie Sanders wins Latinos by 8%, but like Rihanna to Chris Brown, black voters at #NVDemsCaucus run back into the arms of the Clintons.”

Comparing black voters to abused women because they don’t vote for Sanders is racist.

Holy fuck that’s some fucked up shit. That’s just like the plantation shit the wingnuts use.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:06:16pm

One thing to watch is to see how many congressional districts each man wins. There are 29 delegates going to the statewide winner and 3 for the winner of each district.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:07:04pm

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Holy fuck that’s some fucked up shit. That’s just like the plantation shit the wingnuts use.

And is likely to be just as successful. I advise Hillary to inform South Carolinians about how Bernie’s friends feel about the most faithful Democratic voters there are.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:07:15pm

re: #346 Brian J.

One thing to watch is to see how many congressional districts each man wins. There are 29 delegates going to the statewide winner and 3 for the winner of each district.

Thanks, wasn’t aware of that.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:07:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:07:51pm

re: #347 Brian J.

And is likely to be just as successful. I advise Hillary to inform South Carolinians about how Bernie’s friends feel about the most faithful Democratic voters there are.

No kidding. Man this shit pisses me off.

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:07:59pm

They are already spinning a potential 3rd place finish wonderful news for Rubio.

Marco’s Bronze Medal collection is supposed to be impressive?

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:08:13pm

re: #337 HappyWarrior

Time for another victory speech by the GOP’s version of the Buffalo Blils, Marco Rubio!

“Nobody circles the drain like Marco Rubio!”

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Dr. Matt  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:08:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:08:30pm

re: #349 De Kolta Chair

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Trump will name the Yahoo commenter with tons of thumbs up and down on his comments.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:08:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:09:00pm

re: #352 Brian J.

“Nobody circles the drain like Marco Rubio!”

It’s actually unfair to the Bills. They actually have been number two. Marco hasn’t had that yet.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:09:18pm

re: #355 jaunte

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The most popular participation medal to the GOP establishment!

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:09:53pm

re: #351 b.d.

They are already spinning a potential 3rd place finish wonderful news for Rubio.

Marco’s Bronze Medal collection is supposed to be impressive?

Marco was supposed to be the “establishments” best hope to save them from the horrors of a Trump candidacy, a Cruz candidacy, or a Red Wedding in Cleveland. But he hasn’t managed a better than 3rd place win, while Trump now looks like he might have back-to-back wins.

Somebody put Rinsed on suicide watch.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:11:44pm

re: #325 Brian J.

To quote the Deteriorata, “Whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Cleveland.”

A classic. National Lampoon, 1972:
Nat’l Lampoon’s Deteriorata

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stpaulbear  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:12:05pm

re: #332 Ziggy_TARDIS

Oh boy, Cleveland has quite a number of Muslims.

I could see some serious ugliness.

Protestors will never get close enough to the convention to disturb anyone. The 2008 Republican convention in St. Paul was like a lockdown. Barriers and cops everywhere. All of the restaurants in the neighborhood of the Xcel Center were pissed because conventioneers didn’t venture beyond the barriers, and it was a horrible hassle for anyone else to get near. The cops were complete assholes. It was embarassing. The Ramsey County Sheriff got voted out of his job not long after the convention.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:12:40pm

God I hate to sound like an idiot but Dem convention is where this year?

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:13:19pm

Republican absentee ballots doubled in SC over last election.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:13:23pm

The first real votes are in and Trump’s got 36% of the vote, well ahead of the exit poll. Bush is close to Rubio for third. Of course, we’re talking about just over 1,000 votes.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:13:34pm

Probably helps Cruz.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:13:42pm

re: #361 HappyWarrior

God I hate to sound like an idiot but Dem convention is where this year?

Philly, July 25-28.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:13:58pm

re: #361 HappyWarrior

God I hate to sound like an idiot but Dem convention is where this year?

Philly isn’t it?

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:14:15pm

re: #358 Targetpractice

Marco was supposed to be the “establishments” best hope to save them from the horrors of a Trump candidacy, a Cruz candidacy, or a Red Wedding in Cleveland. But he hasn’t managed a better than 3rd place win, while Trump now looks like he might have back-to-back wins.

Somebody put Rinsed on suicide watch.

The GOP establishment trying to give the nomination to a 3 place elite lackey would be must see TV

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:14:18pm

The media will do for Marco what they’re doing for Bernie: “Better than expected,” “strong showing,” “he’s winning with (insert demographic) that’s vital to November,” etc. Nobody will want to face the possibility that they’re gonna go to Cleveland to crown Donald Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:14:32pm

re: #365 Brian J.

Philly, July 25-28.

Interesting choice.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:16:19pm

re: #369 HappyWarrior

Yes. It will be interesting. Some folks say it is going to be like when Pope Francis came to Philly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:16:25pm

So the spin I’m seeing so far is that apparently Bernie did win the Hispanic vote. Very well but the fact that he got smoked in the African-American vote is something to be concerned about especially with the states coming up.

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retired cynic  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:16:29pm

I just got an email from Bernie’s campaign saying that Hillary’s firewall is ‘berning up’ after he nearly caught her in Nevada. Also saw a post that Kasich is proposing a federal agency: “Governor Kasich failed to give his federal government agency a theocratic name, but he does know that its only purpose and mission is to “promote the Jewish- and Christian-based belief system to four regions of the world: China, Iran, Russia and the Middle East.”

juanitajean.com

My God.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:16:52pm

It’s BS like this that gets people killed ===>

The link is to a Fox aggregator and originating from a crappy RW “news” site.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:17:18pm

re: #370 PhillyPretzel

Yes. It will be interesting. Some folks say it is going to be like when Pope Francis came to Philly.

I do like Philly. A nice city. I am surprised they didn’t choose a city in a state that’s been purple but Pennsylvania is always competitive.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:17:50pm

re: #372 retired cynic

I just got an email from Bernie’s campaign saying that Hillary’s firewall is ‘berning up’ after he nearly caught her in Nevada. Also saw a post that Kasich is proposing a federal agency: “Governor Kasich failed to give his federal government agency a theocratic name, but he does know that its only purpose and mission is to “promote the Jewish- and Christian-based belief system to four regions of the world: China, Iran, Russia and the Middle East.”

juanitajean.com

My God.

I want to see what that email says after SC.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:19:09pm

re: #372 retired cynic

Kasich providing a nice propaganda bonus for ISIS and the leaders of Iran.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:19:10pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

Philly’s Democrats out number the Republicans roughly 5 to 1. One of reasons why Philly was picked.

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stpaulbear  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:19:23pm

re: #360 stpaulbear

Protestors will never get close enough to the convention to disturb anyone. The 2008 Republican convention in St. Paul was like a lockdown. Barriers and cops everywhere. All of the restaurants in the neighborhood of the Xcel Center were pissed because conventioneers didn’t venture beyond the barriers, and it was a horrible hassle for anyone else to get near. The cops were complete assholes. It was embarassing. The Ramsey County Sheriff got voted out of his job not long after the convention.

That was the convention that introduced Palin to the world. God, I was so embarrased for St. Paul that week.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:19:38pm

I dunno if I were Bernie, I’d be very worried that I’m struggling with such a key component of the Democratic base especially when he’s claimed he’d be great for racial unity.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:20:19pm

re: #377 PhillyPretzel

Philly’s Democrats out number the Republicans roughly 5 to 1. One of reasons why Philly was picked.

Yeah that’s true.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:20:23pm

re: #375 HappyWarrior

I somehow think that the performance by Bernie’s fans in Nevada might hurt him with Hispanics from here on out.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:20:52pm

re: #375 HappyWarrior

I want to see what that email says after SC.

I think we can look forward this week to a lot of talk about her lead there “narrowing” and suggestions that SC is “feeling the Bern”…right up until she blows him out of the water, at which point they look for whatever small sliver of the voting pool that he beat her in to say he’s winning the people “key” to a general election victory. Oh, and throwing in some snide remarks about how she’s “pandering” to the black vote and/or that black voters are afraid to leave the Clinton “plantation” to vote for a guy who marched with Dr. King.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:21:24pm

re: #381 Ziggy_TARDIS

I somehow think that the performance by Bernie’s fans in Nevada might hurt him with Hispanics from here on out.

Time will tell but I can tell you this much, I cannot believe I had to read about shouting at someone to speak English happened at a Democratic caucus. And these are the types that insist they’re more progressive than the rest of us.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:22:11pm

re: #382 Targetpractice

I think we can look forward this week to a lot of talk about her lead there “narrowing” and suggestions that SC is “feeling the Bern”…right up until she blows him out of the water, at which point they look for whatever small sliver of the voting pool that he beat her in to say he’s winning the people “key” to a general election victory. Oh, and throwing in some snide remarks about how she’s “pandering” to the black vote and/or that black voters are afraid to leave the Clinton “plantation” to vote for a guy who marched with Dr. King.

Probably. Honestly I am glad she won a pretty convincingly victory. That campaign needs to be humbled some. The arrogance and dismissive attitude of anyone who dare not feel the Bern pisses me off.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:22:38pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s true.

There aren’t very many cities where Democrats don’t have a massive voting advantage. Karl Rove’s 2012 election night freakout came about because he thought Ohio was called prematurely. He didn’t realize that half of Cuyahoga County was still out, and would give Obama a cushion of at least 100,000 votes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:22:43pm

re: #367 b.d.

The GOP establishment trying to give the nomination to a 3 place elite lackey would be must see TV

538 says Bush might finish dead last in SC tonight. Sweet!

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Jay C  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:22:48pm

re: #372 retired cynic

Governor Kasich failed to give his federal government agency a theocratic name, but he does know that its only purpose and mission is to “promote the Jewish- and Christian-based belief system to four regions of the world: China, Iran, Russia and the Middle East.”

Ummm, Gov. Kasich does know that Russia is already a “Christian” country (and an oppressive quasi-theocracy, at that)? And that nobody in China gives a crap about our religion(s)?

Maybe they can name it the Department Of Proselytizing Endeavors, for the acronym…

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:23:05pm

re: #382 Targetpractice

I think we can look forward this week to a lot of talk about her lead there “narrowing” and suggestions that SC is “feeling the Bern”…right up until she blows him out of the water, at which point they look for whatever small sliver of the voting pool that he beat her in to say he’s winning the people “key” to a general election victory. Oh, and throwing in some snide remarks about how she’s “pandering” to the black vote and/or that black voters are afraid to leave the Clinton “plantation” to vote for a guy who marched with Dr. King.

I kind of expect her numbers might rise a few points due to her win in Nevada. There is going to come a point where people will start to get on the wagon and be front runners. It happens…tipping points.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:23:21pm

re: #383 HappyWarrior

That really, really shouldn’t of happened.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:23:52pm

re: #387 Jay C

Ummm, Gov. Kasich does know that Russia is already a “Christian” country (and an oppressive quasi-theocracy, at that)? And that nobody in China gives a crap about our religion(s)?

Maybe they can name it the Department Of Proselytizing Endeavors, for the acronym…

Not ot mention there are Christian communities in the ME that were Christians when Kasich and I’s ancestors in Central Europe were still Pagans. What an ass.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:24:10pm

re: #344 jaunte

“Bernie Sanders wins Latinos by 8%, but like Rihanna to Chris Brown, black voters at #NVDemsCaucus run back into the arms of the Clintons.”

Comparing black voters to abused women because they don’t vote for Sanders is racist.

That was a @MovieJay tweet, not one from @patrickesque, the guy who was linked in the comment -and who I was talking about.

And yes, that comment he made is totally F’d up.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:24:29pm

re: #382 Targetpractice

I think we can look forward this week to a lot of talk about her lead there “narrowing” and suggestions that SC is “feeling the Bern”…right up until she blows him out of the water, at which point they look for whatever small sliver of the voting pool that he beat her in to say he’s winning the people “key” to a general election victory. Oh, and throwing in some snide remarks about how she’s “pandering” to the black vote and/or that black voters are afraid to leave the Clinton “plantation” to vote for a guy who marched with Dr. King.

Also, keep in mind that there are 12 states voting three days after South Carolina, several of which will be Hillary blowouts for the same reason as SC.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:25:38pm

re: #389 Ziggy_TARDIS

That really, really shouldn’t of happened.

I know, I’d be pissed off if it was any Hispanic woman honestly. Just a total lack of respect and the kind of nativism you’d expect honestly out of Trump supporters.

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:25:59pm

re: #386 Big Beautiful Door

538 says Bush might finish dead last in SC tonight. Sweet!

All the stars who hitched up to that Jeb! wagon anticipating another job in DC got screwed.

Good.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:26:18pm

Meanwhile, Rage Furby is going to be hilariously wrong again.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:26:55pm

re: #353 Dr. Matt

Trump avoided being drafted into the conflict due to “shin splints”, but once suggested that his avoidance of STDs in his promiscuous younger years was his own “personal Vietnam.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:27:34pm

re: #395 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Rage Furby is going to be hilariously wrong again.

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Fosters, Australian(I realize he’s in NZ but humor) for dead wrong on primary projections.

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:28:14pm

Brian Williams just called SC for Trump

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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:28:27pm
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wrenchwench  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:29:02pm

Oh, look. A Dolores Huerta doll. /

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retired cynic  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:30:01pm

re: #372 retired cynic

I just got an email from Bernie’s campaign saying that Hillary’s firewall is ‘berning up’ after he nearly caught her in Nevada. …

Just got another email from Bernie: the firewall is gone, they are tied, we are doling out upsets, etc. I shouldn’t be surprised; they are all politicians.

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:31:23pm

Will Jeb drop out now?

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:31:49pm

re: #402 b.d.

Will Jeb drop out now?

Talking headz say so.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:31:57pm

re: #401 retired cynic

Just got another email from Bernie: the firewall is gone, they are tied, we are doling out upsets, etc. I shouldn’t be surprised; they are all politicians.

I was told Bernie wasn’t a politician. But yeah, I mean I don’t mind this. It’s spin. It’s something all candidates do. So i don’t begrudge Bernie at all for it but I think he’s in four a tough SC and then Super Tuesday. If he wants to be taken seriously as a legitimate contender, he really needs to work on actually listening and not condescending to the African-American community and not acting like a middle school mean girl when Clinton is doing that.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:32:02pm

re: #402 b.d.

Will Jeb drop out now?

If he is smart he will.

So, he’ll stay in.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:32:15pm

re: #392 Brian J.

Also, keep in mind that there are 12 states voting three days after South Carolina, several of which will be Hillary blowouts for the same reason as SC.

Ayep, as Observer noted, there’s going to be a tipping point and I imagine Super Tuesday will be it. Bernie might pull off one or two wins, but there will be enough momentum behind her from SC and the ST wins to make those wins moot. His supporters will rant and rave about the “establishment” and insist that the wins show that people are “feeling the Bern,” but the nomination is not granted on how enthusiastic your supporters are, it’s how many of them you can get to show up to vote for you.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:32:49pm

re: #395 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Rage Furby is going to be hilariously wrong again.

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He’s in New Zealand. It’s tomorrow there isn’t it? Maybe he’s really right?

RBS

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:33:27pm

Trump is winning Pickens County in the early going, which is right in the middle of the upstate evangelical belt. Terrible news for Cruz if that holds and spreads.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:33:36pm

2% in, this I bet is where it will finish:

trump 3,505
32.4%

cruz 2,424
22.4%

rubio 2,280
21.1%

bush 1,250
11.6%

kasich 714
6.6%

carson 632

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:34:04pm

re: #402 b.d.

Will Jeb drop out now?

He brought Dubya out of the closet, his weapon of last resort. There’s nothing left at this point besides showing up to one last debate before Super Tuesday so Donald can pants him on live TV one last time.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:34:48pm

re: #409 freetoken

2% in, this I bet is where it will finish:

trump 3,505
32.4%

cruz 2,424
22.4%

rubio 2,280
21.1%

bush 1,250
11.6%

kasich 714
6.6%

carson 632

Yeah that sounds right to me. Still time for Cruz and Rubio to swap places but I think Trump starts getting announced as the winner very soon by the networks.

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gocart mozart  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:34:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:35:06pm
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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:35:07pm

The whole point of Jeb?’s $100 million in Super PAC money was to blast the SEC Tuesday states, and I expect him to at least try that before leaving the race.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:35:13pm

LA Times has already called it for Trump

Votes Pct.


Donald
TRUMP
3,068 32.5% WINNER

Ted
CRUZ
2,106 22.3%

Marco
RUBIO
1,977 20.9%

Jeb
BUSH
1,109 11.8%

John
KASICH
622 6.6%

Ben
CARSON
556 5.9%

Big surprise there, of course it’s a whopping 0.5% of the vote in… graphics.latimes.com

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Aye Pod  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:35:15pm

The Guardian’s live state by state Primary update page, complete with animated Donald Trump:

theguardian.com

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:35:57pm

DAMN!!!! I’m too slow in my old age. Glad I’m not a gun-fighter.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:35:58pm

Already called for Trump. Wow.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:35:59pm

Currently Cruz and Rubio are separated by 1 vote.

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Nojay UK  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:36:14pm

re: #410 Targetpractice

He brought Dubya out of the closet, his weapon of last resort. There’s nothing left at this point besides showing up to one last debate before Super Tuesday so Donald can pants him on live TV one last time.

JEB can’t leave the dinner table stop campaigning until Babs tells him he can.

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:36:30pm

re: #386 Big Beautiful Door

538 says Bush might finish dead last in SC tonight. Sweet!

That would put him behind “others”.

They don’t like you, Jeb, they really don’t like you.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:36:52pm

Remember the truth of the night: bronze is gold.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:37:15pm

re: #422 freetoken

Remember the truth of the night: bronze is gold.

Especially if it’s Marco.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:37:39pm

Oconee County (Clemson) has Rubio winning with Trump in hot pursuit, and Cruz well behind. More bad news for Cruz hoping to win the upstate CDs.

And CNN will project Trump the winner momentarily.

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:37:44pm

re: #402 b.d.

Will Jeb drop out now?

He’ll have to ask his mom first.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:38:25pm

re: #424 Brian J.

Oconee County (Clemson) has Rubio winning with Trump in hot pursuit, and Cruz well behind. More bad news for Cruz hoping to win the upstate CDs.

Upstate is more or less Evangelical than the state as a whole? It’s my understanding Marco’s polling best in the Charleston suburbs with fewer evangelicals and more Northern transplants.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:38:30pm

All the major outlets are predicting Trump the winner in SC.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:38:38pm

re: #422 freetoken

Remember the truth of the night: bronze is gold.

I suspect that, come tomorrow morning, the argument we’ll start to hear from pundits is that Marco doesn’t need a lot of big finishes, he just needs to putter along on second or third place finishes. Expect to see more and more acceptance for the idea of a brokered convention.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:39:05pm

Congratulations to the Clinton campaign on her Nevada win!

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:39:35pm

re: #428 Targetpractice

I suspect that, come tomorrow morning, the argument we’ll start to hear from pundits is that Marco doesn’t need a lot of big finishes, he just needs to putter along on second or third place finishes. Expect to see more and more acceptance for the idea of a brokered convention.

Not if the same guy is whipping his ass over and over again. Oh, sorry, I’m trying to introduce logic to The Narrative.

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A Cranky One  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:39:40pm

re: #422 freetoken

Remember the truth of the night: bronze is gold.

So that’s the reason T-rump uses so much spray tan?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:40:00pm

“The convention will be deadlocked, and after the other candidates have gone their limit, some twelve or fifteen men, worn out and bleary-eyed for lack of sleep, will sit down about two o’clock in the morning, around a table in a smoke-filled room in some hotel and decide the nomination. When that time comes, Harding Rubio will be selected.”

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:40:02pm

I know it will help Rubotio if he gets second, but I would be most amused with Teddy coming in third in a state that was to be a strong hope for him. To lose to his good friend Marco is fitting in a fun way.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:40:49pm

re: #431 A Cranky One

So that’s the reason T-rump uses so much spray tan?

It’s why Rubio will declare victory.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:41:11pm

re: #430 Brian J.

Not if the same guy is whipping his ass over and over again. Oh, sorry, I’m trying to introduce logic to The Narrative.

Nah, the logic that blows this all up is that other candidates dropping out of the field has not really helped Marco. That as the field of “sane” candidates has narrowed, it appears the “sane” Republicans have just thrown their hands up and stayed home rather than shift their votes.

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:41:21pm

re: #413 Charles Johnson

Will Trump be able to deport Nikki Haley now?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:41:50pm

re: #436 Skip Intro

Will Trump be able to deport Nikki Haley now?

Ann Coulter is hoping so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:41:55pm
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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:42:10pm

Rubio takes a 13 vote lead over Cruz.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:43:33pm

Trump leads 4 of the 5 Congressional Districts with any votes in. Rubio leads the 6th by five votes, based on just 60 votes reporting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:43:59pm

re: #440 Brian J.

Trump leads 4 of the 5 Congressional Districts with any votes in. Rubio leads the 6th based on just 60 votes reporting.

Pretty convincing win for him then.

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Sionainn  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:44:31pm

re: #284 Ziggy_TARDIS

Considering how I was unreasonably mean to my best friend over a candidate in difference, when she already agrees with me on 90% of everything, some Hillary supporters (Me) are not much better.

Yes, I take politics personally, but I shouldn’t. But the emotional impulses are such a nasty struggle for me, and I lose 40-50% of the time.

I really need to learn the concept that I can have friends, or I can be right.

Be like me. We got to the caucus site and when it was time to split the room, my husband was sitting in the Hillary section and said that he was going to stay there. I went across the room and sat with the Bernie supporters. LOL. There were two other couples who had the same thing happen. I didn’t get mad at him. No reason to.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:47:43pm

You gotta be kidding. CNN has declared Trump the winner of the South Carolina primary - with a whole 4% of the votes counted - none of which are from Richland county (Columbia).

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:48:44pm

re: #443 Bill and Opus for 2016!

You gotta be kidding. CNN has declared Trump the winner of the South Carolina primary - with a whole 4% of the votes counted - none of which are from Richland county (Columbia).

Exit Polls

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:48:44pm

re: #428 Targetpractice

I suspect that, come tomorrow morning, the argument we’ll start to hear from pundits is that Marco doesn’t need a lot of big finishes, he just needs to putter along on second or third place finishes. Expect to see more and more acceptance for the idea of a brokered convention.

Starting March 15, he has to actually win primaries, because they will be winner-take-all.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:48:52pm

re: #399 Charles Johnson

He’s a 1A militant for sure-but when it comes to thinks like Twitter, there’s a huge difference between Twitter and other ‘abusers’ of so-called 1A rights-Twitter doesn’t sue folks, unlike other corporations who seek to have negative posts removed and who sue when they’re not. And as a so-called conservative, you’d think he of all people would understand that under the ‘sanctity of contract’ nonsense.

C’est la vie.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:48:59pm

re: #443 Bill and Opus for 2016!

One of many reasons why I will wait until the next morning for a more accurate count of the votes.

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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:49:11pm

re: #360 stpaulbear

Protestors will never get close enough to the convention to disturb anyone. The 2008 Republican convention in St. Paul was like a lockdown. Barriers and cops everywhere. All of the restaurants in the neighborhood of the Xcel Center were pissed because conventioneers didn’t venture beyond the barriers, and it was a horrible hassle for anyone else to get near. The cops were complete assholes. It was embarassing. The Ramsey County Sheriff got voted out of his job not long after the convention.

That makes perfect sense. No way does the GOP want any of the little people protesting at its obscenity of a convention.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:49:25pm

Huffpo calls it for T rump too.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:49:29pm

Rubio now with a 48 vote lead over Cruz… it’s going to go down to the wire.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:49:31pm
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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:49:33pm

re: #445 Big Beautiful Door

Starting March 15, he has to actually win primaries, because they will be winner-take-all.

Not all of them, but Florida and Ohio both are and will likely finish off Bush/ Rubio and Kasich, if they’re not gone already.

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blueraven  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:50:13pm

It looks like, in the end, Hillary will win Nevada by at least 5%. That is pretty, pretty, pretty good.

Right now with 85% in: 52.5 - 47.4

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:50:24pm

… Cruz just leap frogged Rubio…

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:50:40pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is bad news. Let’s hope that no one is seriously injured or killed.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:50:54pm

re: #445 Big Beautiful Door

Starting March 15, he has to actually win primaries, because they will be winner-take-all.

Fortunately for him, there will be less opponents then but unfortunately for him, he still has time to slip up. Interesting thought though from Harry on 538, he thinks Rubio should root hard for a Cruz drop out since he argues that Rubio is more conservative than Trump, perhaps so but I imagine the issues that draw Trump supporters strongly to Trump are closer to what draw Cruz supporters to Cruz than what draw Rubio supporters to Rubio. Rubio voters seem to be voting more on electability than on ideology along with vague bs.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:51:45pm

re: #453 blueraven

It looks like, in the end, Hillary will win Nevada by at least 5%. That is pretty, pretty, pretty good.

Right now with 85% in: 52.5 - 47.4

The delegate count is just as important. If Hillary can hold where she is, she’ll win 20 delegates to Bernie’s 15, superdelegates NOT included. She will then have won more delegates than Bernie in the three contests so far, and her campaign is just about to strap on the brass knuckles.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:51:47pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

Pretty convincing win for him then.

I will mention again that every candidate who has won both the NH and SC primaries has become their party’s nominee.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:52:33pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:52:47pm

re: #458 Big Beautiful Door

I will mention again that every candidate who has won both the NH and SC primaries has become their party’s nominee.

GOP candidate i think you mean as Bill Clinton did not win NH in 1992 but he did finish second there and won in SC I believe.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:53:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:53:24pm

re: #459 De Kolta Chair

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One of the most amusing things to watch so far has been the divorce of Cruz and Trump.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:53:35pm

Yep, I think the only excitement is going to be is how it breaks out for 2nd / 3rd. No matter how it goes, it’s going to keep both of them in the race. I suspect that maybe Carson will drop out, and since Cruz has been such a dick to him, (can I say dick on the internet?) will endorse Rubio. Maybe even before Super Tuesday.

RBS

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:53:42pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Must be another day ending in ‘y’.

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:53:59pm

Congratulations GOP, you built that.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:54:11pm

re: #465 b.d.

Congratulations GOP, you built that.

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:54:56pm

re: #462 HappyWarrior

One of the most amusing things to watch so far has been the divorce of Cruz and Trump.

You think they could have stayed together for the sake of the children.

RBS

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:55:04pm

re: #460 HappyWarrior

GOP candidate i think you mean as Bill Clinton did not win NH in 1992 but he did finish second there and won in SC I believe.

No, all candidates who won both primaries have become the nominee. Not including incumbent Presidents, that list includes Reagan ‘80, Bush ‘88, Gore ‘00 and McCain ‘08

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:55:22pm

re: #462 HappyWarrior

One of the most amusing things to watch so far has been the divorce of Cruz and Trump.

Yeah, like most divorces, it’s been messy, public, and involved both sides eviscerating each other for personal gain.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:55:43pm

re: #468 Big Beautiful Door

No, all candidates who won both primaries have become the nominee. Not including incumbent Presidents, that list includes Reagan ‘80, Bush ‘88, Gore ‘00 and McCain ‘08

Oh, oh I see what you mean now. Sorry about that. Former blonde moment.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:55:45pm

re: #466 jaunte

Oy Vey not that s*it again.

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A Cranky One  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:55:45pm

re: #463 Reality Based Steve

Yep, I think the only excitement is going to be is how it breaks out for 2nd / 3rd. No matter how it goes, it’s going to keep both of them in the race. I suspect that maybe Carson will drop out, and since Cruz has been such a dick to him, (can I say dick on the internet?) will endorse Rubio. Maybe even before Super Tuesday.

RBS

You can say it, but I’d suggest not goggling it.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:56:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:56:11pm

re: #469 Targetpractice

Yeah, like most divorces, it’s been messy, public, and involved both sides eviscerating each other for personal gain.

I just they wish they would think of their gay Muslim hating bases. They hate it when mommy and daddy fight.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:56:47pm

re: #471 PhillyPretzel

Oy Vey not that s*it again.

That’s from 2012. A reminder of who the silver medalist, gold medalist, and gold medalist of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina is.

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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:56:48pm

re: #459 De Kolta Chair

Ted Cruz’ failure to win in South Carolina couldn’t happen to a nicer theocrat.

The abominable Trump campaign has inadvertently performed a public service today.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:57:11pm

re: #467 Reality Based Steve

You think they could have stayed together for the sake of the children.

RBS

It’s so cruel. The poor children probably think it’s their fault.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:57:15pm

deep thoughts…

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:58:03pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts…

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The thoughts of a mind no doubt heavily intoxicated in light of the SC results.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:58:25pm

re: #462 HappyWarrior

One of the most amusing things to watch so far has been the divorce of Cruz and Trump.

Yep. I don’t think even a closet summit could heal that rift.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:58:46pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts…

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Reince, maybe you should stop trolling an adult political party and focus on the fact that a guy who endorsed pig blooded coated bullets for Muslims just won your primary. By the way, maybe Bernie will help you when you’re unemployed since Bernie does believe in full employment even for scumbuckets like you.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:58:48pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

Very deep. And that is what the GOP is in. Very deep do-doo.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:59:17pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:59:28pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d call Mr. RNC PR BS a tool, but that would be such a mortal insult to all tools that everything would grind to a halt as tools crumbled to rusty dust nationwide in protest.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 4:59:38pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts…

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Yeah, she only kicked your and Sanders’ asses by 5-6 points where she was supposedly losing last week, and now they’re headed into territory where your “help” just isn’t gonna be worth much to Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:00:05pm

re: #483 goddamnedfrank

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If Cruz does do that, I bet he gets something big in return.

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Tigger2  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:00:07pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts…

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:00:07pm

The Republican voter, 2016.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:00:33pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

deep thoughts…

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Reince must have typed that out while sitting on the Donald’s lap.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:00:39pm

re: #488 jaunte

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The Republican voter, 2016.

I think Chuck may mean because.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:00:53pm

re: #483 goddamnedfrank

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They’ll hold a meeting, but I don’t see it going any better than the purported Cruz/Carson one did. Both men are too egotistical to believe that they should be the one to leave “for the good of the party,” as they both no doubt still believe they’re the best suited to beat him.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:01:54pm

re: #483 goddamnedfrank

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“Sweaty closeted foursome” for the win.

DING!

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:01:56pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:01:59pm

Hmmmm

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:02:00pm

I think they’re setting themselves up nicely for an ugly convention. Say the anti-Trumps do team up. Trump throws a shit fit and the convention gets ugly.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:02:09pm

Kasich has passed Bush for 4th place. He’s just trying to hold it together until Ohio, but there are probably just too many states in the way.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:02:21pm

re: #486 HappyWarrior

If Cruz does do that, I bet he gets something big in return.

Like pig’s blood?

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:02:22pm

I think that CNN has hired FoxNews’ mathematician.

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weave  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:02:33pm

Poor Redstate is freaking out….

“Maybe just stay home, watch netflix and drink heavily that day. It’ll be a lot easier on the car and the body…”

“I’ll douse myself in gasoline, slam my car into a brick wall, and crawl away through the fire and broken glass before I join the Donald Trump campaign.”

“I will NEVER vote for Trump.”

I know it’s a dangerous game, but if Trump wins the GOP nomination it’s possible so many of these wingnuts will stay home that it could help us get back Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:02:54pm

re: #497 goddamnedfrank

Like pig’s blood?

Pig and duck blood. Please remember his bearded theocrat of choice.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:03:00pm

re: #498 Bill and Opus for 2016!

I think that CNN has hired FoxNews’ mathematician.

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No, that’s just the “wisdom of the crowds” speaking.

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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:03:04pm

re: #491 Targetpractice

They’ll hold a meeting, but I don’t see it going any better than the purported Cruz/Carson one did. Both men are too egotistical to believe that they should be the one to leave “for the good of the party,” as they both no doubt still believe they’re the best suited to beat him.

Cruz isn’t going to step aside for anyone. He is on a (self-appointed) mission from (his self-created) God to make the US into a theocracy per seven mountains Dominionist ravings.

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gocart mozart  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:04:02pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:04:26pm

re: #496 Brian J.

Kasich has passed Bush for 4th place. He’s just trying to hold it together until Ohio, but there are probably just too many states in the way.

If he finishes fourth ahead of Bush, that is a big expectations win for him, and makes it harder to pressure him out and consolidate the establishment vote. We could see a massive Trump sweep of the SEC primary with at least four candidates still in the race.

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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:04:55pm

re: #499 weave

Poor Redstate is freaking out….

“Maybe just stay home, watch netflix and drink heavily that day. It’ll be a lot easier on the car and the body…”

“I’ll douse myself in gasoline, slam my car into a brick wall, and crawl away through the fire and broken glass before I join the Donald Trump campaign.”

“I will NEVER vote for Trump.”

I know it’s a dangerous game, but if Trump wins the GOP nomination it’s possible so many of these wingnuts will stay home that it could help us get back Congress.

Thanks for the reminder. Now it it time to taste some truly delicious wingnut tears.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:05:37pm

re: #499 weave

If that happens at the state house level, combined with Governorships, we could reverse the gerrymandering in a number of states immediately. We could win back the lower house in 2018.

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:05:39pm

re: #466 jaunte

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:06:15pm

re: #499 weave

Poor Redstate is freaking out….

“Maybe just stay home, watch netflix and drink heavily that day. It’ll be a lot easier on the car and the body…”

“I’ll douse myself in gasoline, slam my car into a brick wall, and crawl away through the fire and broken glass before I join the Donald Trump campaign.”

“I will NEVER vote for Trump.”

I know it’s a dangerous game, but if Trump wins the GOP nomination it’s possible so many of these wingnuts will stay home that it could help us get back Congress.

And that is why our best scenario is Trump as the nominee. Second best is a divided convention, and we get to watch the Republicans eat their own entrails.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:06:18pm

Rubio has leapfrogged Cruz
I can wait for his Second Place “Victory” speech

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:06:19pm

re: #502 EPR-radar

Cruz isn’t going to step aside for anyone. He is on a (self-appointed) mission from (his self-created) God to make the US into a theocracy per seven mountains Dominionist ravings.

And Rubio won’t step aside because this may be his one and only chance at the presidency. All the press is about how he’s now the “establishment candidate,” he’s the guy who is supposed to stand atop the wreckage and bring the party together. There’s no way he’s gonna drop out, finish his Senate term, and then disappear into obscurity again.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:07:25pm

Jeb Bush sure has wasted a lot of money from powerful people.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:08:07pm

re: #510 Targetpractice

And Rubio won’t step aside because this may be his one and only chance at the presidency. All the press is about how he’s now the “establishment candidate,” he’s the guy who is supposed to stand atop the wreckage and bring the party together. There’s no way he’s gonna drop out, finish his Senate term, and then disappear into obscurity again.

Yeah Rubio’s in this for the long haul.

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Nojay UK  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:08:39pm

re: #499 weave

Poor Redstate is freaking out….

[Clip emo Smiths bullshit]

I know it’s a dangerous game, but if Trump wins the GOP nomination it’s possible so many of these wingnuts will stay home that it could help us get back Congress.

Not going to happen. Come the day they’ll look at the choice of Clinton or Trump and go and pull the elephant lever, telling themselves they’re not voting FOR, they’re voting AGAINST. Then they’ll pick up a fifth of Night Train on the way back home and hide under the covers, fondling their knockoff AK-47 with the Walmart-special Picatinny rail and thinking dark thoughts.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:09:58pm

re: #488 jaunte

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The Republican voter, 2016.

And coming out strong for torture.

Right now, in my county, Trump is at 49% with 14% counted. My anecdotal observations proved to be true.

If you’re interested in county by county voting

wpde.com

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:10:30pm

re: #513 Nojay UK

Not going to happen. Come the day they’ll look at the choice of Clinton or Trump and go and pull the elephant lever, telling themselves they’re not voting FOR, they’re voting AGAINST. Then they’ll pick up a fifth of Night Train on the way back home and hide under the covers, fondling their knockoff AK-47 with the Walmart-special Picatinny rail and thinking dark thoughts.

Yeah, I heard plenty of this shit back in ‘08 and ‘12, “No way I’ll vote for McCain/Romney!” Then come the conventions and suddenly, there’s all these McCain and Romney boosters out there, screaming that they’re not voting for either man, they’re voting against a “socialist” in the White House.

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Aye Pod  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:10:31pm

re: #487 Tigger2

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Funny - right wing news sites have been consistently (like every day) predicting a Sanders win for weeks. Suddenly they are shocked that Hilary didn’t win by more! It’s another “Great news for John McCain” right wing media moment.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:10:45pm

Let’s say this though. Even if Rubio does manage to emerge as the establishment’s guy like they want him to. Like McCain and Romney before him, he is perhaps even more so going to be forced to pick someone (hell maybe even Donald himself) to satisfy the wingnuts. And we’ll see Marco like Romney before try desperately to make voters forget that he’s just as extreme and hopefully the Clinton campaign is ready to point out how big of a fraud this guy is.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:11:49pm

re: #515 Targetpractice

Yeah, I heard plenty of this shit back in ‘08 and ‘12, “No way I’ll vote for McCain/Romney!” Then come the conventions and suddenly, there’s all these McCain and Romney boosters out there, screaming that they’re not voting for either man, they’re voting against a “socialist” in the White House.

Yeah they’ll be there. Just as a lot I think who insist they’ll never vote for Clinton will be like “holy shit the GOP candidate is _____”.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:12:25pm

re: #511 jaunte

Jeb Bush sure has wasted a lot of money from powerful people.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:12:34pm

So 538 thinks Rubio may get second place but Trump may end up with all 50 delegates anyhow.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:12:53pm

Cruz and Rubio were exactly tied for second a minute ago. Now Rubio’s up by 33 votes. Meanwhile, Trump now leads every CD with any votes in by at least 5%. A 50-delegate sweep is now looking pretty likely.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:13:25pm

re: #521 Brian J.

Cruz and Rubio were exactly tied for second a minute ago. Now Rubio’s up by 33 votes. Meanwhile, Trump now leads every CD with any votes in by at least 5%. A 50-delegate sweep is now looking pretty likely.

Damn. Wow. He’s going to be insufferable tonight.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:13:32pm
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Aye Pod  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:14:04pm

re: #511 jaunte

Jeb Bush sure has wasted a lot of money from powerful people.

He is going to be so grounded

Butters stands up to his parents

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:14:47pm

re: #521 Brian J.

Cruz and Rubio were exactly tied for second a minute ago. Now Rubio’s up by 33 votes. Meanwhile, Trump now leads every CD with any votes in by at least 5%. A 50-delegate sweep is now looking pretty likely.

At some point soon, if Cruz, Rubio and Kasich all stay in the race, Trump’s delegate lead may become insurmountable.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:15:01pm

re: #523 jaunte

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Yeah but the media is liberal. Just ask the owner of the humble Fox Network, Rupert Murdoch and his president the humble Roger Ailes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:16:05pm

re: #524 Aye Pod

He is going to be so grounded

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Video

Dubya will be giving Jeb a sqirlie at Kennebunkport this summer. “Ha-ha, they said I was the dumb one but at least I actually won.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:16:30pm

Things must be pretty uncomfortable for the Bush clan right now. IA they could write off (“it’s never been right”) and NH was bad but “it could have been worse.” But finishing one up from dead last in a state that all the pundits were declaring to be “Bush country” and talking about how great an idea it was to bring out Dubya in SC? I get the feeling that he’s gonna now be strutting around, going “Who’s the dumb brother now?!”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:16:58pm

re: #525 Big Beautiful Door

At some point soon, if Cruz, Rubio and Kasich all stay in the race, Trump’s delegate lead may become insurmountable.

I give Cruz more of a chance of staying in the race than Kasich. Cruz after all is divinely chosen according to his Dad. Kasich may actually sometimes reside in reality.

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:17:17pm

re: #514 BeachDem

And coming out strong for torture.

Right now, in my county, Trump is at 49% with 14% counted. My anecdotal observations proved to be true.

If you’re interested in county by county voting

wpde.com

Now my county is 48% Trump with 34 percent counted—highest in the state. I’m surrounded by morons.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:17:28pm

re: #528 Targetpractice

Things must be pretty uncomfortable for the Bush clan right now. IA they could right (“it’s never been right”) and NH was bad but “it could have been worse.” But finishing one up from dead last in a state that all the pundits were declaring to be “Bush country” and talking about how great an idea it was to bring out Dubya in SC? I get the feeling that he’s gonna now be strutting around, going “Who’s the dumb brother now?!”

Yeah SC should have been good for Jeb.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:17:55pm

Paging Philip K. Dick…

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:18:09pm

re: #528 Targetpractice

Things must be pretty uncomfortable for the Bush clan right now.

Barbara has a pretty serious “I told you so” claim now.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:18:10pm

re: #530 BeachDem

Now my county is 48% Trump with 34 percent counted—highest in the state. I’m surrounded by morons.

Sucks. You’re near Myrtle aren’t you? As I was commenting about MD’s Eastern Shore the other day, it’s a shame that an area with such beautiful beaches is so wingnutty.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:18:13pm

Turnout for the Republicans now stands at 177,000 with 24% of precincts reporting. They will probably pass the 2012 total of just over 600,000 with ease.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:18:34pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:20:08pm

re: #502 EPR-radar

Cruz isn’t going to step aside for anyone. He is on a (self-appointed) mission from (his self-created) God to make the US into a theocracy per seven mountains Dominionist ravings.

So, if he fails to fulfill that mission will he be cast into a pillar of salt?

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:20:24pm

re: #370 PhillyPretzel

Yes. It will be interesting. Some folks say it is going to be like when Pope Francis came to Philly.

Except more hookers.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:20:36pm

re: #508 Big Beautiful Door

And that is why our best scenario is Trump as the nominee. Second best is a divided convention, and we get to watch the Republicans eat their own entrails.

Yep. However, I’m getting a bad feeling about my nightmare scenario all of a sudden.
Say the Republican convention ends up being contested - and Trump ragequits to run as an independent.
Now, let’s imagine Sanders getting a close-but-no-cigar primary run, and HE decides to run as an independent as well (which could feasibly happen if he doesn’t get serious platform concessions).
A four-way race would potentially mean that the race is decided by Congress because of the absolute majority rule.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:21:18pm
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Aye Pod  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:22:08pm

I’m mesmerised by the Guardians insane election animations. The Trump avatar keeps popping out speech bubbles with things like”We’re going to win so much” while he updates the map. Then along comes Rubio-bot with “Let us dispel with the myth that Obama doesn’t know what he is doing”

theguardian.com

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:22:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:22:29pm

re: #540 De Kolta Chair

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So Rubio won the capital area and one other county?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:22:42pm

re: #542 jaunte

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AMERICA.

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jaunte  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:23:01pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:23:05pm

re: #543 HappyWarrior

So Rubio won the capital area and one other county?

Poor Toolio.

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ObserverArt  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:23:35pm

re: #511 jaunte

Jeb Bush sure has wasted a lot of money from powerful people.

It’s great isn’t it?

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:23:59pm

re: #545 jaunte

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Those guys don’t look like douchebags at all

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Danack  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:24:06pm

re: #527 HappyWarrior

Dubya will be giving Jeb a sqirlie at Kennebunkport this summer. “Ha-ha, they said I was the dumb one but at least I actually won.”

Other than having to face his mother, that’s pretty much the only thing that has kept Jeb? in the race.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:24:07pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:24:14pm

re: #539 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Yep. However, I’m getting a bad feeling about my nightmare scenario all of a sudden.
Say the Republican convention ends up being contested - and Trump ragequits to run as an independent.
Now, let’s imagine Sanders getting a close-but-no-cigar primary run, and HE decides to run as an independent as well (which could feasibly happen if he doesn’t get serious platform concessions).
A four-way race would potentially mean that the race is decided by Congress because of the absolute majority rule.

I have a lot of confidence that Bernie will not run as an independent. You have to remember that making a sudden, last minute decision in the Summer to run as an independent means you won’t be able to get on the ballot in a lot of states. That’s why Bloomberg is going to decide on an independent run in the next couple of weeks.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:24:20pm

re: #545 jaunte

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So. Many. Punchable. Faces.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:24:26pm

re: #543 HappyWarrior

So Rubio won the capital area and one other county?

So far it seems like it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:24:27pm

re: #545 jaunte

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Yeah Trump seems to be the Bro candidate.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:24:35pm

re: #544 HappyWarrior

AMERICA.

Heh, speaking of that, I guess Jeb?’s tweet this week really was the cry for help that it seemed.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:25:11pm

re: #548 b.d.

Those guys don’t look like douchebags at all

Hahaha dude my douchedar went off immediately when I saw those guys. They’re probably in the same frat as the brothers of the U-SC frat brothers that said all that racist and sexist shit with Borat.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:25:27pm

re: #555 Targetpractice

Heh, speaking of that, I guess Jeb?’s tweet this week really was the cry for help that it seemed.

It’s okay ma, Jebber’s my candidate.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:25:31pm

Talking heads on CBS pondering what it means that the majority of Republicans want ban Muslims from entering the country….

as if it doesn’t mean exactly what it obviously means.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:26:09pm

re: #551 Big Beautiful Door

I have a lot of confidence that Bernie will not run as an independent. You have to remember that making a sudden, last minute decision in the Summer to run as an independent means you won’ty be able to get on the ballot in a lot of states. That’s why Bloomberg is going to decide on an independent run in the next couple of weeks.

Ok, I can go with that - but if Bloomberg does decide to run, the 4-way scenario still stands because Trump already is making noises about going independent.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:26:23pm

re: #558 freetoken

Talking heads on CBS pondering what it means that the majority of Republicans want ban Muslims from entering the country….

as if it doesn’t mean exactly what it obviously means.

Well aside from them being open about wanting something explicitly unlawful and anti-American and that totalitarian regimes not much. //

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:26:30pm

Carson whining about the media and the political establishment…

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:26:36pm

re: #551 Big Beautiful Door

I have a lot of confidence that Bernie will not run as an independent. You have to remember that making a sudden, last minute decision in the Summer to run as an independent means you won’ty be able to get on the ballot in a lot of states. That’s why Bloomberg is going to decide on an independent run in the next couple of weeks.

Yeah, I don’t think Bernie will make a indy/third party run. Instead, I expect him to be dickish about quitting the race and withholding his endorsement of Hillary, possibly even throwing it to the Green Party candidate.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:26:57pm

re: #559 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Ok, I can go with that - but if Bloomberg does decide to run, the 4-way scenario still stands because Trump already is making noises about going independent.

If Bloomberg runs and Clinton is the Dem nominee, I can’t see him having much of an impact.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:27:07pm

re: #561 freetoken

Carson whining about the media and the political establishment…

If the man doesn’t drop out after tonight, it might really be time to question his sanity.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:27:28pm

re: #548 b.d.

Those guys don’t look like douchebags at all

I know those guys. Well, not those guys, but I went to undergrad in the south, so I know their dads. They are genteel douches.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:27:28pm

re: #561 freetoken

Carson whining about the media and the political establishment…

You mean the establishment that legitimized your political career by inviting you to CPAC all those times Ben?

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b.d.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:27:57pm

re: #556 HappyWarrior

Hahaha dude my douchedar went off immediately when I saw those guys. They’re probably in the same frat as the brothers of the U-SC frat brothers that said all that racist and sexist shit with Borat.

Love the replies to that tweet:

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Tigger2  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:28:36pm

re: #563 HappyWarrior

If Bloomberg runs and Clinton is the Dem nominee, I can’t see him having much of an impact.

Yeah I just figured he would run if Bernie won because he though moderates would vote for him over Sanders.

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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:28:38pm

re: #558 freetoken

Talking heads on CBS pondering what it means that the majority of Republicans want ban Muslims from entering the country….

as if it doesn’t mean exactly what it obviously means.

Dear CBS talking heads. This fact (among countless others) means that the Republican party is presently a party by, for and about racist assholes.

You might consider doing your jobs for the first time this century and, you know, actually report on this somewhat important news.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:28:42pm

re: #559 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Ok, I can go with that - but if Bloomberg does decide to run, the 4-way scenario still stands because Trump already is making noises about going independent.

Same thing applies to Trump; since he’s winning right now, a decision to run as an independent would come too late to get on the ballot in many states. The question is in a three way race between Hillary, Trump and Bloomberg, who does Bloomberg hurt?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:28:49pm

re: #567 b.d.

Love the replies to that tweet:

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Small victories in life.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:29:15pm

A wacky day in the the Palmetto State — a GOP primary, shots fired at a shopping mall, and this===>

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:29:19pm

re: #564 Targetpractice

If the man doesn’t drop out after tonight, it might really be time to question his sanity.

Well, arguably we could have done that after his first speech.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:29:31pm

re: #568 Tigger2

Yeah I just figured he would run if Bernie won because he though moderates would vote for him over Sanders.

Yeah that I could see also because Bloomie’s big on gun control and that is a sore spot on Sanders’ resume.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:29:40pm

re: #562 Targetpractice

Yeah, I don’t think Bernie will make a indy/third party run. Instead, I expect him to be dickish about quitting the race and withholding his endorsement of Hillary, possibly even throwing it to the Green Party candidate.

I’m expecting the best from Bernie. He can’t want to help a billionaire become President.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:29:57pm

re: #570 Big Beautiful Door

Same thing applies to Trump; since he’s winning right now, a decision to run as an independent would come too late to get on the ballot in many states. The question is in a three way race between Hillary, Trump and Bloomberg, who does Bloomberg hurt?

Reuters’ online polling has consistently shown that Bloomberg would draw more votes from Hillary, reducing her lead by 2-3 percent. Of course, if the Bern has been doused, there’s really no reason for Bloomberg to run.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:29:57pm

Talking heads wondering if the RNC will pressure Carson to leave… which is stupid. Carson is the token black guy. He’s not going anywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:30:24pm

re: #570 Big Beautiful Door

Same thing applies to Trump; since he’s winning right now, a decision to run as an independent would come too late to get on the ballot in many states. The question is in a three way race between Hillary, Trump and Bloomberg, who does Bloomberg hurt?

That’s an interesting question. If that race happens, Trump is the only one with populist rhetoric running. However, I don’t see Bloomberg running if Clinton is the nominee.

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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:30:24pm

re: #572 De Kolta Chair

Was the cause a Republican Obstruction in the sewer system?

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:30:37pm

re: #569 EPR-radar

Dear CBS talking heads. This fact (among countless others) means that the Republican party is presently a party by, for and about racist assholes.

You might consider doing your jobs for the first time this century and, you know, actually report on this somewhat important news.

“What, and take away from our horse race narrative? That’s simply not how this is done! We must continue to provide excuses and support for the GOP, no matter how crazy they become, because we must keep people believing this is a race between legitimate parties rather than one sane party and another that pines for Apartheid South Africa.”

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:31:09pm

re: #575 Big Beautiful Door

I’m expecting the best from Bernie. He can’t want to help a billionaire become President.

I’ve ceased to expect that, but since the Sandbaggers have been remoras on existing establishments rather than creating their own, I don’t expect a third-party runs. Emo-progs boycotting the election, though…

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Reality Based Steve  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:31:19pm

OT… Why is it that my phone (android) ALWAYS gets facebook and Gmail updates just a second or two before my desktop machine. Never fails.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:31:24pm

re: #575 Big Beautiful Door

I’m expecting the best from Bernie. He can’t want to help a billionaire become President.

I think Bernie will endorse Clinton. He from what I understand has supported the Dem nominee in his time in office.

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TedStriker  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:31:43pm

re: #519 De Kolta Chair

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Count de Mon-AY!!!
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:32:01pm

re: #581 Brian J.

I’ve ceased to expect that, but since the Sandbaggers have been remoras on existing establishments rather than creating their own, I don’t expect a third-party runs. Emo-progs boycotting the election, though…

Well we thought it would be ugly in 2008 too. I understand the worry of course.

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:33:21pm

CNN’s exit poll shows Kasich winning the young people. I’m not surprised, I guess.

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Targetpractice  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:33:56pm

re: #581 Brian J.

I’ve ceased to expect that, but since the Sandbaggers have been remoras on existing establishments rather than creating their own, I don’t expect a third-party runs. Emo-progs boycotting the election, though…

Yeah, that’s more likely, Bernie just dropping out without endorsing anybody, but instead some parting swipes at Clinton for not being progressive enough and at the “establishment” for “sabotaging” him, and then ride off into the sunset. His supporters will argue that the lack of endorsement means he doesn’t think she deserves their support and either they should vote for a “true progressive” or stay home in “protest.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:34:04pm

OT! UK v. Tx A&M

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EPR-radar  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:34:23pm

re: #581 Brian J.

I’ve ceased to expect that, but since the Sandbaggers have been remoras on existing establishments rather than creating their own, I don’t expect a third-party runs. Emo-progs boycotting the election, though…

I think the Republicans will do their part to help the Democrats maintain (D) party unity.

The Republican primary is most certainly going to be a horrifying clusterfuck, and the eventual GOP nominee will definitely be an insult to civilization itself.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:34:52pm

10 minutes ago

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:34:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:35:31pm

re: #586 freetoken

CNN’s exit poll shows Kasich winning the young people. I’m not surprised, I guess.

Why? I guess I’m not too surprised either. Kasich comes off the least dickish about social issues. Rubio despite the GOP’s establishment’s vain attempts is never going to be close to what Obama was with younger voters. The best description I’ve read on him is he’s an older person’s idea of what a young person should be. I can just see the older Republicans telling their children and grandchildren “Why can’t you be nice like that Marco?”

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freetoken  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:37:04pm

re: #592 HappyWarrior

Exactly that. He’s the least dickish, most grandfatherly of the group.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:37:05pm
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CuriousLurker  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:37:23pm

re: #558 freetoken

Talking heads on CBS pondering what it means that the majority of Republicans want ban Muslims from entering the country….

as if it doesn’t mean exactly what it obviously means.

Scenario: Majority of Democrats want to ban Jews from entering the country.

CBS: Gosh, what do you suppose it means…?

*facepalm, headdesk*

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:38:00pm

re: #579 EPR-radar

Was the cause a Republican Obstruction in the sewer system?

Isn’t Christie out of the race?

I’ll see myself out…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:38:52pm
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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:40:12pm

re: #534 HappyWarrior

Sucks. You’re near Myrtle aren’t you? As I was commenting about MD’s Eastern Shore the other day, it’s a shame that an area with such beautiful beaches is so wingnutty.

Right in the heart of MB. In 2012, NEWT carried my county by 15 points over Romney. *There were still 9 morons in the race at that point.

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Brian J.  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:40:49pm

re: #597 Backwoods_Sleuth

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At some point, these apologies stop having any meaning when the same boorish behavior happens over and over again when bad faith is obviously involved. Trump shouldn’t get away with it, Cruz shouldn’t get away with it, and Bernie shouldn’t get away with it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:40:54pm

re: #597 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pretty standard stuff. I’m still pretty pissed though that this is something I had to read about happening in a Democratic Party event. I don’t blame everyone who supports Sanders for that but those Sanders who did, you forfeit any right to question anyone’s progressive bonafidies after this. I don’t care if Dolores Huerta was a random 85 year Hispanic woman. Nativism sucks.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:41:15pm

re: #598 BeachDem

Right in the heart of MB. In 2012, NEWT carried my county by 15 points over Romney. *There were still 9 morons in the race at that point.

Ah okay. Never been there. Folks had their honeymoon there though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:41:42pm

re: #599 Brian J.

At some point, these apologies stop having any meaning when the same boorish behavior happens over and over again when bad faith is obviously involved. Trump shouldn’t get away with it, Cruz shouldn’t get away with it, and Bernie shouldn’t get away with it.

No, he shouldn’t.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:41:45pm

Oh, and there was this:

I wonder that it means? You don’t suppose the guy’s a hateful, bigoted, Jewish supremacist do you? //

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Skip Intro  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:41:54pm

re: #545 jaunte

Aren’t those the guys from Omega House? Is that Neidermeyer there in the background?

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stpaulbear  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:41:54pm

re: #597 Backwoods_Sleuth

How forceful.
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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:42:28pm

re: #604 Skip Intro

Aren’t those the guys from Omega House? Is that Neidermeyerr there in the background?

I always compared Mitt to Marmaland.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:43:12pm

re: #603 CuriousLurker

Oh, and there was this:

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I wonder that it means? You don’t suppose the guy’s a hateful, bigoted, Jewish supremacist do you? //

I’m sure Pamela Geller thinks this guy is a political prisoner. Sigh. Man so much fucking hate.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:44:21pm
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Archangelus  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:47:53pm

...

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BeachDem  Feb 20, 2016 • 5:56:16pm

re: #543 HappyWarrior

So Rubio won the capital area and one other county?

Greenville cty, water boy’s up by 37 votes, with less than 1% reported. He’s up in Richland by about 600 votes right now==TRUMP winning every other county-and as I mentioned, winning my pathetic county with the highest percentage in the state. (and we’re fast counters—61% in)

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retired cynic  Feb 20, 2016 • 6:35:55pm

re: #539 Bill and Opus for 2016!

Yep. However, I’m getting a bad feeling about my nightmare scenario all of a sudden.
Say the Republican convention ends up being contested - and Trump ragequits to run as an independent.
Now, let’s imagine Sanders getting a close-but-no-cigar primary run, and HE decides to run as an independent as well (which could feasibly happen if he doesn’t get serious platform concessions).
A four-way race would potentially mean that the race is decided by Congress because of the absolute majority rule.

Oh, hush! Shudder!!!

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Major Tom  Feb 21, 2016 • 5:10:40am

re: #600 HappyWarrior

Pretty standard stuff. I’m still pretty pissed though that this is something I had to read about happening in a Democratic Party event. I don’t blame everyone who supports Sanders for that but those Sanders who did, you forfeit any right to question anyone’s progressive bonafidies after this. I don’t care if Dolores Huerta was a random 85 year Hispanic woman. Nativism sucks.

Maybe you shouldn’t rush to judgment at all.

Here is the FULL video of the caucus. The moment in question starts around 0:53:00

You will hear that they are asked if someone can translate and Huerta goes up and a majority of the room (Probably sanders supporters) say “No! She is a surrogate!” and “neutral!” Saying they want a neutral translator and not one that works for a particular campaign. (That is part of the Dem caucus rules- to have a neutral translator and is well within their right to ask for.)

The moderator is the one who decides they will do it in “English only” but it’s not said as an insult nor is it “chanted” by Bernie supporters.

Here is the video: ustream.tv

But It doesn’t matter, the damage is done and all people will remember is that fake “Bernie Bros” meme, imagined sexism, and imagined racism.

Not a fan of my party today.


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