Video: Samantha Bee Hilariously Dismantles the “Kasich Is a Moderate” Myth

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I’ve been trying for a while to point out that the media’s picture of Republican candidate John Kasich as a “moderate” is so wrong it’s beyond ridiculous; in the real world he’s just as extreme as the other GOP candidates. Here’s Samantha Bee from her latest TBS show making the same point.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:47:12am

Kasich and Rubio are the realistic threat. Trump and Cruz are relatively easy meat.

(For that matter, Trump would be the least destructive president of the four.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:48:26am

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Kasich and Rubio are the realistic threat. Trump and Cruz are relatively easy meat.

(For that matter, Trump would be the least destructive president of the four.)

I agree; Trump’s beatability and the fact he is not champing at the bit for a war with Iran is why I prefer him to Rubio as the GOP nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:52:55am

That was good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:53:03am

re: #2 Big Beautiful Door

I agree; Trump’s beatability and the fact he is not champing at the bit for a war with Iran is why I prefer him to Rubio as the GOP nominee.

The thought of Trump getting that close to the White House makes me…

*hurls*

*uncontrollable projectile vomiting*

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:55:37am

Sell him a cupcake!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:56:22am

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

The thought of Trump getting that close to the White House makes me…

*hurls*

*uncontrollable projectile vomiting*

At least he’s pulling it randomly out of his ass. The others have adult guidance.

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Tigger2  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:57:44am

At least for now.

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Skip Intro  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:58:31am

Trump will be a kinder dictator.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:58:40am

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Kasich and Rubio are the realistic threat. Trump and Cruz are relatively easy meat.

(For that matter, Trump would be the least destructive president of the four.)

I don’t think that’s a reasonable conclusion.

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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:59:05am

When you compare a Shit Sandwich to being thrown head-first into a woodchipper, yeah, the shit sandwich wins.

Doesn’t mean that it’s now magically filet mignon. It’s still a shit sandwich.

(h/t a diatribe by “Polack Joe,” a wise & extremely obscene old bartender I used to know)

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:59:47am

Even if Kasich were a moderate, do you really think he would reign in a wingnut Congress or any of the lunacy? I am positive he wouldn’t.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 11:59:57am

re: #9 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think that’s a reasonable conclusion.

Effectiveness. He is least likely to get what he wants. The TPGOP would fall in behind the others.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:00:01pm

re: #7 Tigger2

Funny how it’s only a problem with the media when these jackasses attack media personalities while ignoring them attacking entire segments of the population.
Looking at you, Chuck.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:00:23pm

re: #10 Khal Wimpo (coatless in Vermont)

When you compare a Shit Sandwich to being thrown head-first into a woodchipper, yeah, the shit sandwich wins.

Doesn’t mean that it’s now magically filet mignon. It’s still a shit sandwich.

(h/t a diatribe by “Polack Joe,” a wise & extremely obscene old bartender I used to know)

Trump is a Dick, Rubio is a Pussy, and the rest of the GOP are Assholes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:01:42pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

The thought of Trump getting that close to the White House makes me…

*hurls*

*uncontrollable projectile vomiting*

I understand, but Rubio isn’t a preferable choice because he hides the crazy better. The man is a Bush clone, completely embracing all the worst aspects of W’s Administration, including the preference for military force over diplomacy.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:05:02pm

On a pure naive left-right scale, it’s entirely possible that The Donald is the most moderate Republican standing.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:07:16pm

There’s nothing moderate about Kasich’s record, especially vis-a-vis abortion and reproductive rights. He’s also against SSM, and has fought to deny gays equal rights and protections under the law (Obergefell v. Hodges originates from Ohio, where Ohio sought to deny Obergefell rights of other married couples).

That he’s being portrayed as a moderate is that his public pronouncements/persona is “moderate” in comparison to the bombast of Trump or Cruz, while Rubio’s automaton is stuck on reboot mode.

In his actions, Kasich has shown himself to be an extremist in deed.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:07:54pm

re: #2 Big Beautiful Door

I agree; Trump’s beatability and the fact he is not champing at the bit for a war with Iran is why I prefer him to Rubio as the GOP nominee.

The other three are absolutely definitely 100% hardcore true believers.

The only thing I’m confident Trump actually believes is that he’s yuuuuuuuge, he’s right, he’s a winner. Everything else might basically be made up, red meat for the masses.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:11:30pm

BTW, I love how nobody is even pretending to bother to address

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, like we’re afraid even saying the name might rudely wake him up from his nap.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:11:31pm

re: #18 Testy Toad T

The other three are absolutely definitely 100% hardcore true believers.

The only thing I’m confident Trump actually believes is that he’s yuuuuuuuge, he’s right, he’s a winner. Everything else might basically be made up, red meat for the masses.

Which is scary because he’ll do anything to please those red meat masses.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:11:38pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Effectiveness. He is least likely to get what he wants. The TPGOP would fall in behind the others.

I’m more afraid of what he’d do in the realms where he doesn’t really need Congress’s approval - foreign policy, primarily. His ability to do enormous damage there is not to be sneezed at.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:13:25pm

Shoot me now.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:13:33pm

re: #19 Testy Toad T

BTW, I love how nobody is even pretending to bother to address

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, like we’re afraid even saying the name might rudely wake him up from his nap.

Ben who?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:14:19pm

re: #19 Testy Toad T

BTW, I love how nobody is even pretending to bother to address

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, like we’re afraid even saying the name might rudely wake him up from his nap.

He had his month, just like Carly did.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:14:41pm

re: #21 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m more afraid of what he’d do in the realms where he doesn’t really need Congress’s approval - foreign policy, primarily. His ability to do enormous damage there is not to be sneezed at.

Unless he’s really good with a trowel, he’ll spend his term building a half-mile of wall.

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:14:50pm

re: #16 Testy Toad T

On a pure naive left-right scale, it’s entirely possible that The Donald is the most moderate Republican standing.

Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

I think that is very clear. Trump does not have the ideological purity of the orthodox GOP candidates.

However, this may be a distinction without a difference. Any of the other GOP candidates would be a catastrophe as president because they’d march the country off a cliff precisely according to plan.

Trump would be a much more random disaster. There’s no telling what he’d get up to as president, but much of it would be horrible.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:15:41pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

Trump will be a kinder dictator.

Sure, as long as you’re a white, non muslim male.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:15:48pm

Hope any of our Southern Lizards are paying attention to the weather today. Severe weather threat is high.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:16:35pm

re: #26 EPR-radar

I think that is very clear. Trump does not have the ideological purity of the orthodox GOP candidates.

However, this may be a distinction without a difference. Any of the other GOP candidates would be a catastrophe as president because they’d march the country off a cliff precisely according to plan.

Trump would be a much more random disaster. There’s no telling what he’d get up to as president, but much of it would be horrible.

They’d all be hideous, but he would at least have some entertaining SURPRISE!! value.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:18:44pm

re: #28 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Hope any of our Southern Lizards are paying attention to the weather today. Severe weather threat is high.

Storms start here around sunset. Better walk the dog in the next hour or so.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:18:47pm

re: #20 Patricia Kayden

Which is scary because he’ll do anything to please those red meat masses.

Hmm. Maybe. But might he see that as letting others dictate the direction of his presidency for him? Because there’s no way a winner like The Donald would allow a bunch of common trash bozos to tell HIM how to run the place.

Everything Trumpian, down to the finest detail, must be viewed through the lens of maximum hubris. Without that fundamental and intrinsic tint, I think understanding is impossible.

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Tigger2  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:19:09pm

Poor Poor Ted.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:20:12pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Shoot me now.

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YAY. I really believe that he is the easiest candidate for our side to beat. Rubio would be a steeper mountain since he comes off as daft but young and likable.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:21:34pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

YAY. I really believe that he is the easiest candidate for our side to beat. Rubio would be a steeper mountain since he comes off as daft but young and likable.

The number of stay-at-home educated white folks would be STAGGERING. Goldwater could only dream of that sort of odious unseriousness.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:21:48pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Sure, as long as you’re a white, non muslim male.

I was just thinking the same thing. From where I’m standing he doesn’t seem even remotely moderate. I’d hazard that most Jews—regardless of how they feel about Muslims—are very uneasy with his willingness to scapegoat Muslims, if for no other reason than it’s only a few short steps away from unleashing some ugly antisemitism.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:22:36pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Shoot me now.

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Exactly what I was wondering. Looks like the only hope for the GOP to stop Trump is a contested convention where back-room deals are made to nominate a candidate who got fewer delegates and fewer votes than The Donald. Imagine how well he’ll take THAT. : )

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ObserverArt  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:23:23pm

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Kasich and Rubio are the realistic threat. Trump and Cruz are relatively easy meat.

(For that matter, Trump would be the least destructive president of the four.)

As an Ohioan I agree. Still no one really knows what The Donald™ is really going to do as President.

Oh wait, does he even know?

Damn…what an election process.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:23:54pm

re: #31 Testy Toad T

Hmm. Maybe. But might he see that as letting others dictate the direction of his presidency for him? Because there’s no way a winner like The Donald would allow a bunch of common trash bozos to tell HIM how to run the place.

Everything Trumpian, down to the finest detail, must be viewed through the lens of maximum hubris. Without that fundamental and intrinsic tint, I think understanding is impossible.

And that would be the best way to deal with Trump: “Hey President T, are you going to let all those poor riff-raff tell you what to do?”

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Tigger2  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:24:07pm

re: #36 Big Beautiful Door

Exactly what I was wondering. Looks like the only hope for the GOP to stop Trump is a contested convention where back-room deals are made to nominate a candidate who got fewer delegates and fewer votes than The Donald. Imagine how well he’ll take THAT. : )

Imagine how well his supporters would take that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:24:37pm

The best predictors of support for Trump are authoritarianism and fear. Surprise!

vox.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:25:11pm

re: #39 Tigger2

Imagine how well his supporters would take that.

Pass the popcorn!

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:25:12pm

re: #40 Big Beautiful Door

The best predictors of support for Trump are authoritarianism and fear. Surprise!

vox.com

Fear, surprise, and an almost fanatical devotion to hating on the Pope

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:25:31pm

re: #28 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:26:30pm

re: #35 CuriousLurker

I was just thinking the same thing. From where I’m standing he doesn’t seem even remotely moderate. I’d hazard that most Jews—regardless of how they feel about Muslims—are very uneasy with his willingness to scapegoat Muslims, if for no other reason than it’s only a few short steps away from unleashing some ugly antisemitism

None of them are remotely moderate. He’s just less likely to accomplish what he’s spewing.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:27:29pm

re: #35 CuriousLurker

I was just thinking the same thing. From where I’m standing he doesn’t seem even remotely moderate. I’d hazard that most Jews—regardless of how they feel about Muslims—are very uneasy with his willingness to scapegoat Muslims, if for no other reason than it’s only a few short steps away from unleashing some ugly antisemitism

A few short steps by a creature that has only one slimy foot; a snail.

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Great White Snark  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:28:23pm

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Kasich and Rubio are the realistic threat. Trump and Cruz are relatively easy meat.

(For that matter, Trump would be the least destructive president of the four.)

With Bernie or Hilary I fear a middle class tax increase. With Trump I fear climate change. As in nuclear winter climate. Thin skinned Pres Trump and the most powerful military on the globe is a truly terrifying combination.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:28:47pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

None of them are remotely moderate. He’s just less likely to accomplish what he’s spewing.

I’m not sure how exactly I’d categorize his statements on the Iraq War, but they certainly don’t mesh with conservative orthodoxy. When the other candidates are basically in lock step on these matters, Trump is de facto more moderate, strange though it seems to see that description in print.

It’s an expression of the complete batshit lunacy of Rubio, Cruz and Kasich, not any sort of statement of support or consideration of Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:30:02pm

re: #47 Testy Toad T

I’m not sure how exactly I’d categorize his statements on the Iraq War, but they certainly don’t mesh with conservative orthodoxy. When the other candidates are basically in lock step on these matters, Trump is de facto more moderate, strange though it seems to see that description in print.

It’s an expression of the complete batshit lunacy of Rubio, Cruz and Kasich, not any sort of statement of support or consideration of Trump.

He’s the leper with the most fingers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:30:10pm

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:30:56pm

The other reason I fear a Trump presidency fractionally less than I do a Cruz or Rubio one is because I think Trump faces a stupendously higher likelihood of being removed from office because he doesn’t know how to be told “no”.

And yes, call me naive or idealistic, but I do think there are actions Trump could take, or try to take, that would see him impeached and convicted, even in this political climate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:31:26pm

re: #37 ObserverArt

As an Ohioan I agree. Still no one really knows what The Donald™ is really going to do as President.

Oh wait, does he even know?

Damn…what an election process.

Like I’ve said, when you’re trying to make a deal, you promise the moon. You tell them exactly what they want to hear, which you’ve carefully researched to make sure your proposal is JUST what they’re looking for.

Once they fall in love with the idea, then you turn it over to the lawyers who work out a deal that is rather less than they’d thought they were getting. You have to stay close enough to keep their enthusiasm going.

Once the deal is inked, you do as little of it as you can get away with short of giving them sufficient cause to sue.

So, if Trump wins the whole shebang, there’s no reason to think that he’ll even try to do anything he’s said he’d do. But the fact that he’s willing to say it, and his approach to friends and opponents, and his narcissism make me fear him. He won’t be beholden to anyone, including the people who elected him, because I don’t think he’ll like the job enough to run for reelection.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:32:51pm

I was convinced for months that The Donald could in no way, shape or form win the GOP nomination. And if he did, HRC would slaughter him in the general.

I now recognize he can win the GOP nomination and is well on his way to doing so barring a remarkable change of circumstances over the next month. His only realistic opposition it seems to me now is Rubio who the “establishment” now seems to be gathering behind.

But I also don’t think a Democratic win over Trump in the general is by any means certain.

Strange new territory we are in.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:32:55pm

Trump is in this for the ego trip and the self-aggrendizement. The White House is a big yooge trophy for him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:33:53pm

re: #47 Testy Toad T

I’m not sure how exactly I’d categorize his statements on the Iraq War, but they certainly don’t mesh with conservative orthodoxy. When the other candidates are basically in lock step on these matters, Trump is de facto more moderate, strange though it seems to see that description in print.

It’s an expression of the complete batshit lunacy of Rubio, Cruz and Kasich, not any sort of statement of support or consideration of Trump.

I think that was entirely aimed at Jeb. I don’t know if he even believes it. It was a handy cudgel, and he knows he can get away with anything.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:34:15pm

what in the utter fuck

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:34:54pm

At present, as far as I know, running for the GOP nomination is the only thing Trump has ever been successful at. I wonder which of those experiences is more predictive.

Who knows if he would even be able to exercise the power of the office competently?

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withak  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:35:02pm

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

I think that was entirely aimed at Jeb. I don’t know if he even believes it. It was a handy cudgel, and he knows he can get away with anything.

And watch him pivot on it, now that Jeb is out.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:35:04pm

The more traditional campaigns of Cruz and Rubio, said longtime Nevada political analyst Jon Ralston, “are very frustrated by what everyone’s frustrated by: you can’t talk any sense into the Trump voters, they can’t turn them.”

they simply cant process that that “conservative agenda” crap aint selling anymore

it’s ded jim

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:36:00pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

Sniffing glue again?

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:36:18pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

Think of the pain automobiles suffered when the government required them to have turn signals.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:36:49pm

re: #57 withak

And watch him pivot on it, now that Jeb is out.

Yup. Because nothing he says is especially linked to objective or even his subjective reality. All statements are for effect.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:37:14pm

re: #57 withak

And watch him pivot on it, now that Jeb is out.

Depends on if he thinks he’s got the primary pretty well locked up and if it’s time to start pivoting toward the general.

I think the intelligent thing to do would be keep his piehole shut on the topic until it’s in the bag. I certainly wouldn’t walk it back.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:37:34pm

re: #60 Belafon

Think of the pain automobiles suffered when the government required them to have turn signals.

A pain so great that most people prefer not to inflict the further pain of actually using them.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:37:43pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

None of them are remotely moderate. He’s just less likely to accomplish what he’s spewing.

I’m honestly not so sure WRT Muslims. We’re not exactly popular right now—what about if/when there’s another attack? Hell, there are people right here at this blog who’ve told me that after 9/11 they were okay with the idea of Muslim internment camps, and that was without then-President Bush egging anyone on (in fact he did the opposite).

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withak  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:38:45pm

re: #62 Testy Toad T

Depends on if he thinks he’s got the primary pretty well locked up and if it’s time to start pivoting toward the general.

I think the intelligent thing to do would be keep his piehole shut on the topic until it’s in the bag. I certainly wouldn’t walk it back.

He’s got help from most of the major news media, who won’t dare call him on it. He won’t need to walk it back if he’s free to ignore it.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:39:08pm

re: #60 Belafon

Think of the pain automobiles suffered when the government required them to have turn signals.

Once you go trafficator, you won’t go back.

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b.d.  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:39:10pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

Shoot me now.

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You mean Rubio won’t catch Donald if he comes in 2nd or 3rd the rest of the way?

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danarchy  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:39:52pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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If the patient swallowed evidence, I’d be fine compelling the doctor to recover it…

analogies, how do they work?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:40:04pm

re: #62 Testy Toad T

Depends on if he thinks he’s got the primary pretty well locked up and if it’s time to start pivoting toward the general.

I think the intelligent thing to do would be keep his piehole shut on the topic until it’s in the bag. I certainly wouldn’t walk it back.

Why not? First, nobody ever calls him on any contradictions in what he says, and second, his supporters literally don’t care if he contradicts himself. Indeed, if you point it out, they’ll attack you. Just ask Megyn Kelly, whose questions about his misogyny were by no means inappropriate or nasty.

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b.d.  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:41:24pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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Wasn’t Snowie the guy that claimed that the he and the NSA could hack anything in 30 seconds or less and now Apple is all of a sudden an impregnable fortress?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:41:36pm

re: #64 CuriousLurker

I’m honestly not so sure WRT Muslims. We’re not exactly popular right now—what about if/when there’s another attack? Hell, there are people right here at this blog who’ve told me that after 9/11 they were okay with the idea of Muslim internment camps, and that was without then-President Bush egging anyone on (in fact he did the opposite).

In that scenario it doesn’t matter which Republican is president.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:41:41pm

re: #69 Blind Frog Belly White

If Donald Trump can make a statement that most Democrats would embrace and not suffer any discernible harm for it in the GOP primary, why would he walk back that statement? It can only help him in the general.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:41:41pm

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Kasich and Rubio are the realistic threat. Trump and Cruz are relatively easy meat.

(For that matter, Trump would be the least destructive president of the four.)

If you’re a white dude, perhaps. Less God but more hate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:43:04pm

re: #64 CuriousLurker

I’m honestly not so sure WRT Muslims. We’re not exactly popular right now—what about if/when there’s another attack? Hell, there are people right here at this blog who’ve told me that after 9/11 they were okay with the idea of Muslim internment camps, and that was without then-President Bush egging anyone on (in fact he did the opposite).

See, now, that’s a situation where I’m pretty certain Trump would do the worst thing. An attack on American soil, after he’s made such sweeping promises and claims (“If I’d been President, 9/11 wouldn’t have happened!”), and he’d feel the need to overreact and scapegoat Muslims.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:43:25pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

Trump will be a kinder dictator.

As long as you’re white and don’t bleed out of your whatever.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:43:37pm

Donald Trump is like Robert Mugabe for white people.

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:43:49pm

re: #70 b.d.

Wasn’t Snowie the guy that claimed that the he and the NSA could hack anything in 30 seconds or less and now Apple is all of a sudden an impregnable fortress?

Well they only get 10 shots at it, maybe 9 since they probably tried 1-2-3-4 ;)

Once the 10th failed attempt happens, the encryption key is irreversibly destroyed rendering the data on the device useless.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:43:58pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

In that scenario it doesn’t matter which Republican is president.

Exactly. Pointing to a terrifying Trump scenario doesn’t really tell you much when there’s zero daylight between that and the identically terrifying Cruz scenario.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:44:25pm

re: #73 MsJ

If you’re a white dude, perhaps. Less God but more hate.

Trump is the least aggressive on PP and SSM. They’re all standard issue GOP crypto-racist.

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:45:07pm

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Trump is the least aggressive on PP and SSM. They’re all standard issue GOP crypto-racist.

FTFY

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re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

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CuriousLurker  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:46:24pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

In that scenario it doesn’t matter which Republican is president.

I haven’t seen any other candidates flat out lie about Muslims the way Trump has. Remember him saying he saw “thousands” of Muslims celebrating in Jersey on 9/11? Mayors said he was wrong, law enforcement said he was wrong, Gov. Christie said he was wrong, yet nonetheless scores of people believed him and even said they saw it too.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:46:59pm

re: #80 lawhawk

FTFY

Not till they say The Word. And they all have a black friend, if they can keep him in the primaries.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:47:45pm

Trump could eat a live babby on TV and people would clamor for McBabby burgers.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:47:53pm

re: #82 CuriousLurker

I haven’t seen any other candidates flat out lie about Muslims the way Trump has.

Only because they’re afraid to. They aren’t aware that lying is a benefit this primary season.

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freetoken  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:48:17pm

Speaking of Kasich, Qunnipiac still has Trump over Kasich by a small margin in Ohio:

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:48:54pm

re: #78 Testy Toad T

Exactly. Pointing to a terrifying Trump scenario doesn’t really tell you much when there’s zero daylight between that and the identically terrifying Cruz scenario.

This is why the Democrat must win the election in November, because we aren’t even sure which Republican would be the most catastrophically worst President.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:49:26pm

re: #81 Great White Snark

Ever read Lifehacker?

Keep Your Cast Iron Clean With This Chainmail Scrubber
deals.kinja.com

I might just try this.

You know, I clean my cast iron pans using dishwashing soap all the time, and it doesn’t affect the seasoning. The trick is speed - soap on the brush, hot water, swirl the brush around the inside of the pan, rinse with a shit-ton of hot water, dry immediately.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:49:29pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

This is why the Democrat must win the election in November, because we aren’t even sure which Republican would be the most catastrophically worst President.

Uh-Huh.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:49:59pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

Trump will be a kinder dictator.

one tends to get that impression since he doesnt repeat typical right wing cruelness rhetoric, but dog knows what would really happen if he actually got in

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:50:07pm

re: #86 freetoken

Wow, the bigger result is Clinton +15 over Sanders.

If he can’t make inroads in a white-ish rust belt state with a shitty economy, he’s just plain toast.

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Interesting Times  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:50:11pm

re: #85 Testy Toad T

Only because they’re afraid to. They aren’t aware that lying BIGGAR is a benefit this primary season.

Fixed.

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freetoken  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:50:25pm

Meanwhile, down in Texastan, it looks like Cruz has a comfortable lead over Trump:

texastribune.org

After March 1st, Trump and Cruz will be the likely order of delegate counts… with Rubio far behind.

I think the “establishment lane” is toast.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:51:17pm

re: #93 freetoken

Meanwhile, down in Texastan, it looks like Cruz has a comfortable lead over Trump:

texastribune.org

After March 1st, Trump and Cruz will be the likely order of delegate counts… with Rubio far behind.

I think the “establishment lane” is toast.

Looks like another big win for Rubio!!!

/

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CuriousLurker  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:51:28pm

re: #85 Testy Toad T

Only because they’re afraid to. They aren’t aware that lying is a benefit this primary season.

That’s kinda my point—Trump will do anything to win. He’s the honey badger of political candidates. If he was POTUS (*shudder, gag*) and felt he was in trouble, he wouldn’t think twice about throwing innocent people under the bus to save himself.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:52:10pm

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

Trump could eat a live babby on TV and people would clamor for McBabby burgers.

“he eats what many people are thinking”

“at least he eats what’s on his mind”

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:52:11pm

re: #93 freetoken

I think the “establishment lane” is toast.

I dunno. The 538 folks make a pretty persuasive argument that Cruz is kinda boned because his demographic groups are mostly in proportional-delegate states, whereas Rubio is stronger in winner-take-all regions.

I dunno if Rubio can catch Trump, but I don’t see much of a path forward with Cruz. The betting markets agree, if you’re inclined to consider those in any way predictive.

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Lidane  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:52:14pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:52:22pm

re: #93 freetoken

Meanwhile, down in Texastan, it looks like Cruz has a comfortable lead over Trump:

texastribune.org

After March 1st, Trump and Cruz will be the likely order of delegate counts… with Rubio far behind.

I think the “establishment lane” is toast.

A sleazy “Revenge of the Pachyderms” ploy at the convention would be nice.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:52:51pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

You know, I clean my cast iron pans using dishwashing soap all the time, and it doesn’t affect the seasoning. The trick is speed - soap on the brush, hot water, swirl the brush around the inside of the pan, rinse with a shit-ton of hot water, dry immediately.

I have a cast iron pan and I hate using it. HATE USING IT because it is so fucking heavy. I clean it with a plastic scrubber and hot water but I can’t stop thinking that I am putting it away dirty.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:53:25pm

Anyway, I’m done wasting time thinking about these assholes. Got work to do, so BBL.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:53:42pm

re: #94 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Looks like another big win for Rubio!!!

/

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Lidane  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:54:08pm

re: #93 freetoken

Meanwhile, down in Texastan, it looks like Cruz has a comfortable lead over Trump:

texastribune.org

After March 1st, Trump and Cruz will be the likely order of delegate counts… with Rubio far behind.

I think the “establishment lane” is toast.

At that point, I’m going to start setting aside cash to donate to the Democrats for the general. Heaven help us if it comes down to Cruz or Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:55:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:56:04pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

I have a cast iron pan and I hate using it. HATE USING IT because it is so fucking heavy. I clean it with a plastic scrubber and hot water but I can’t stop thinking that I am putting it away dirty.

If you hate cast iron, you’d fucking LOATHE copper. I bought a set of tin-lined copper pans 30 years ago, and I LOVE them (but I’m a big guy), but they are SO HEAVY!! 9” copper sautoir makes my 12” cast iron skillet seem light.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:56:18pm

re: #101 CuriousLurker

Anyway, I’m done wasting time thinking about these assholes. Got work to do, so BBL.

Bail out bags are not just for RW preppers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:57:28pm

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

[Insert meme of the Pope laughing here]

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lawhawk  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:57:38pm

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Sung to the tune of Southbound Pachyderm:

Primus - Southbound Pachyderm

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:57:54pm

re: #58 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

The other GOP candidates are soon going to figure out what makes Trumpism work.

It’s all about hating others.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:58:02pm

Honestly what bugs me most about Bernie are some of his supporters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:58:15pm

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

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This is what I mean. He can literally say anything, and yes, I really do literally mean literally. I think he could say, “I hate babies. They’re noisy, they smell bad, they distract your woman from servicing you properly”, and not lose a vote.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:58:23pm

re: #95 CuriousLurker

That’s kinda my point—Trump will do anything to win. He’s the honey badger of political candidates. If he was POTUS (*shudder, gag*) and felt he was in trouble, he wouldn’t think twice about throwing innocent people under the bus to save himself.

How many innocent people did Bush kill in Iraq? Between Trump, Rubio and Cruz, which one is willing to enforce the deal, and which two want to tear it up and start a war?

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:58:37pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

They really remind me of Ralph Nader supporters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:59:09pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Bail out bags are not just for RW preppers.

My sister and her husband say they’re seriously considering Italy if Trump wins. I said we’d visit from our cabin in Canada.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:59:33pm

re: #70 b.d.

Wasn’t Snowie the guy that claimed that the he and the NSA could hack anything in 30 seconds or less and now Apple is all of a sudden an impregnable fortress?

Apple should take over encryption and cybersecurity for the federal government…….

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 12:59:50pm

re: #103 Lidane

At that point, I’m going to start setting aside cash to donate to the Democrats for the general. Heaven help us if it comes down to Cruz or Trump.

Rubio is exactly as bad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:01:06pm

re: #116 Big Beautiful Door

Rubio is exactly as bad.

He’s just nicer about it.

Half /

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:01:09pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apple should take over encryption and cybersecurity for the federal government…….

In a way, they already have. The USG apparently replaced its fleet of Blackberries with iPhones.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:01:36pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s just nicer about it.

Half /

A marginally less punchable face.

ETA: And his voice doesn’t make me nauseous quite as fast.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:01:43pm

Cast iron: the old (pre-1960) ones are lighter because they are made with iron ore, not scrap iron. Plus, the cooking surface was machined, so they are smooth.

To clean: Soak it. Scrape stuff off with a wooden or bamboo spatula. Wipe with a paper towel. Apply a thin coat of oil. Done.

For old, crusted on stuff: Easy Off. Then season it. I ain’t going there.

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Lidane  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:01:51pm

re: #116 Big Beautiful Door

Rubio is exactly as bad.

Let’s dispel the fiction that Rubio is different than any of the other Republican candidates. He’s EXACTLY like all the other Republican candidates.

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TedStriker  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:02:55pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

I have a cast iron pan and I hate using it. HATE USING IT because it is so fucking heavy. I clean it with a plastic scrubber and hot water but I can’t stop thinking that I am putting it away dirty.

Cast iron’s the only way to cook proper cornbread and skillet-fried chicken.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:03:16pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

Maybe you could take it to Earl Scheib’s and ask them to sand blast it for you.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:03:32pm

re: #109 EPR-radar

The other GOP candidates are soon going to figure out what makes Trumpism work.

It’s all about hating others.

Which is why Cruz reversed course and declared that he’d deport all the illegal immigrants.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:03:53pm
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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:04:22pm

re: #122 TedStriker

Cast iron’s the only way to cook proper cornbread and skillet-fried chicken.

The proper way to cook fried chicken is to ask my dad to do it.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:04:27pm

re: #121 Lidane

Let’s dispel the fiction that Rubio is different than any of the other Republican candidates. He’s EXACTLY like all the other Republican candidates.

Except thirstier.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:04:29pm

re: #123 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Maybe you could take it to Earl Scheib’s and ask them to sand blast it for you.

Do you hate your cast iron?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:04:37pm

re: #104 The Vicious Babushka

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:05:09pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

This is what I mean. He can literally say anything, and yes, I really do literally mean literally. I think he could say, “I hate babies. They’re noisy, they smell bad, they distract your woman from servicing you properly”, and not lose a vote.

TRUMP canned talking point:
NOBODY CAN DO [SOMETHING] BETTER/YOOGER/MOAR TERRIFICS THAN I CAN!!!1!!!!!

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TedStriker  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:05:34pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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“to protect the will of the American people”

Absolute bullshit from a bunch of nakedly partisan hacks.

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:05:48pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“Hillary Clinton is our 45th president!”

“2017? We meant 2021.”

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Lidane  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:06:02pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

Honestly what bugs me most about Bernie are some of his supporters.

I was actually leaning heavily towards Bernie for a while. Now I don’t know what to do because there’s a lot that’s been turning me off lately.

We’re going to have an early voting caravan in the office later this week. I’ll be voting Democratic no matter what, but I don’t know which way to go. Do I cast an idealistic vote (Bernie) or one with the general election in mind (Hillary)?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:06:04pm

re: #120 wrenchwench

Cast iron: the old (pre-1960) ones are lighter because they are made with iron ore, not scrap iron. Plus, the cooking surface was machined, so they are smooth.

To clean: Soak it. Scrape stuff off with a wooden or bamboo spatula. Wipe with a paper towel. Apply a thin coat of oil. Done.

For old, crusted on stuff: Easy Off. Then season it. I ain’t going there.

A friend of mine lost her house to a fire back in the early 70s.
The only thing she was able to salvage from the wreckage was her cast iron pans.
She said they had never been cleaner.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:06:05pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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If I believed in Hell, I’d have a place for them.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:06:22pm

We have a heavy artsy-fartsy wind chime we call “The Hurricane Bell”. It’s ringing. Off to walk the dog.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:07:10pm

re: #133 Lidane

We’re going to have an early voting caravan in the office later this week. I ‘ll be voting Democratic no matter what, but I don’t know which way to go. Do I cast an idealistic vote (Bernie) or one with the general election in mind (Hillary)?

Economically idealistic, you mean. I’m not sure Bernie isn’t to the right of Hillary on immigration and gun control.

(but he’s still progressive you can’t be both a progressive and a moderate!!!!1)

YMMV

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:07:21pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yoo hoo. Calling all GOP apologists.

Care to try to explain this crap? Preferably before it collapses into a gravitational singularity due to the massive amounts of shit involved in its creation.

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Tigger2  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:07:45pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Lidane  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:08:37pm

re: #132 Belafon

“Hillary Clinton is our 45th president!”

“2017? We meant 2021.”

Related:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:09:02pm

re: #133 Lidane

I was actually leaning heavily towards Bernie for a while. Now I don’t know what to do because there’s a lot that’s been turning me off lately.

We’re going to have an early voting caravan in the office later this week. I ‘ll be voting Democratic no matter what, but I don’t know which way to go. Do I cast an idealistic vote (Bernie) or one with the general election in mind (Hillary)?

I was Feeling The Bern but Hillary had the edge in all the debates I have seen. Right now I’m “undecided”

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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:09:17pm

Ok, let’s see if this thing works…

instagram.com

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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:09:42pm

Hey, look at that! Instagram embeds!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:09:45pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And “liberal” media will have no problem with this.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:10:17pm

re: #140 Lidane

I went by a needlework supply store on Friday on my way out of town, and there were a number of older women sitting and stitching as I was browsing. I was half-listening to the conversation and it was not positive towards the Republicans being unwilling to at least hold the hearings.

This is a store that tends conservative, although I don’t know the views of the ladies sitting there in specific.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:10:39pm

re: #143 Charles Johnson

Hey, look at that! Instagram embeds!

Yay, you rock!

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Tigger2  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:11:05pm

re: #141 The Vicious Babushka

I was Feeling The Bern but Hillary had the edge in all the debates I have seen. Right now I’m “undecided”

I’m very decided I think the Republicans would tear Bernie apart in the General,

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:12:16pm

re: #121 Lidane

Let’s dispel the fiction that Rubio is different than any of the other Republican candidates. He’s EXACTLY like all the other Republican candidates.

But we first need to dispel the fiction that Rubio is different than any of the other Republican candidates. He’s EXACTLY like all the other Republican candidates. And we also must dispel the fiction Rubio is different than any of the other Republican candidates. He’s EXACTLY like all the other Republican candidates.

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:12:22pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I think this nonsense combined with the Flint water disaster has removed the last vestiges of my patience or restraint when it comes to Republicans and their apologists/enablers.

The whole party is shit, top to bottom and side to side. Any decent person has no business supporting it in any way whatsoever.

It is an abomination, and the only way the US will survive as a nation (and possibly the world as well) is for the GOP to collapse into complete electoral insignificance before they get the chance to do lethal damage.

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Franklin  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:12:23pm

I don’t instagram, but wanted to join the embedding fun!

instagram.com

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:13:55pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Well, since Vitter, Grassley and Lee are “lame duck senators” their votes don’t count./

Fuck. These. Assholes.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:14:08pm

To embed an Instagram photo, don’t use the embed code - just post the URL of the photo’s page. If you’re looking at an index page with more than one photo on it, just right-click the timestamp in the upper right, copy the link address, and paste that into an LGF comment.

If you’re on an individual photo’s page, just copy the address in your browser’s address line and paste that.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:14:50pm

re: #123 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

That’ll be $19.95!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:14:58pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

To embed an Instagram photo, don’t use the embed code - just post the URL of the photo’s page. If you’re looking at an index page with more than one photo on it, just right-click the timestamp in the upper right, copy the link address, and paste that into an LGF comment.

If you’re on an individual photo’s page, just copy the address in your browser’s address line and paste that.

So awesome, thank you!

I promise to abuse use this sparingly.

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:15:09pm

re: #151 BeachDem

Well, since Vitter, Grassley and Lee are “lame duck senators” their votes don’t count./

Fuck. These. Assholes.

With a fitfully-running rusty chainsaw. Sideways.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:15:16pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

A friend of mine lost her house to a fire back in the early 70s.
The only thing she was able to salvage from the wreckage was her cast iron pans.
She said they had never been cleaner.

Just wondering. Are you going to Caucus March 5? And if so, do you know who you will vote for?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:15:54pm

Works with videos too.

instagram.com

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:16:30pm

Former Marine Wingnut in my county is objecting to his kid being taught about Islam in a public high school. Sigh.

washingtonpost.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:17:22pm

I’ve been working on itty-bitty cross stitch projects.

instagram.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:18:01pm

So they decided not to give any nominee a hearing? What a load of pathetic bullshit. Yet another reason not to trust the Republican Party without anything ever.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:18:14pm

re: #159 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve been working on itty-bitty cross stitch projects.

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Because we are more easily led when we don’t know shit about the rest of the world.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:18:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:18:53pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:18:57pm

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

Because we are more easily led when we don’t know shit about the rest of the world.

I think you mean that as a reply to the post above mine.

Unless you have something against cross stitched pandas. ;)

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:19:24pm

If the candidates were Disney characters:

Trump: Gaston from Beauty and the Beast
Cruz: Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame
Rubio: Prince Hans from Frozen
Kasich: Lawrence from Princess and the Frog
Hillary: Ursula from The Little Mermaid
Bernie: Maurice from Beauty and the Beast

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:21:05pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

Honestly what bugs me most about Bernie are some of his supporters.

Like Russia Today. Or Glenn Greenwald.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:21:09pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

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It’s amazing how little has changed the past half century.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:22:03pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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This should enrage Democratic voters into coming out in droves this November. Republicans should be punished hard for disregarding their Constitutional duty to vote President Obama’s nominee up or down. That’s how the nomination process works and the first Black President still gets to perform his duties until his term is over.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:23:58pm

re: #168 Patricia Kayden

This should enrage Democratic voters into coming out in droves this November. Republicans should be punished hard for disregarding their Constitutional duty to vote President Obama’s nominee up or down. That’s how the nomination process works and the first Black President still gets to perform his duties until his term is over.

They deserve to lose their seats and the Republican Party deserves to lose their Senate Majority. I hope the DSCC attacks them hard over this and if and when the Democrats retake the Senate, I hope Obama or whoever the president elect is chooses someone as liberal as Scalia was conservative. They wanted to play hard ball, then they deserve a liberal equivalent of Scalia to sit on the bench for the next thirty years to mock and berate their views.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:24:12pm

Oooh, my Kindle Fire tablet just got a very nice new System update. Completely revamped the interface. Looks much nicer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:24:14pm

re: #156 Big Beautiful Door

Just wondering. Are you going to Caucus March 5? And if so, do you know who you will vote for?

No, I am not going to caucus.
*It’s much much further to drive to the caucus place than to my regular polling place.
*I have no desire to compromise my right to privacy when it comes to who I will vote for.
*I have a bazillion better things to do on a Saturday, especially if the weather is crappy (which it most likely will be since it’s freaking March 5).
*Rand Paul and the Kentucky GOP are assholes for doing this caucus bullshit in the first place.
*I hate caucuses…did that once in Illinois, refused to ever do it again.
*It’s not like there is any person even remotely sane to give my vote.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:24:28pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

It’s amazing how little has changed the past half century.

And yet, the word ‘reparations’ causes more head explosions than the word ‘socialist’.

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BeachDem  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:24:56pm

Back to “moderate” Kasich for a minute.

Kaili Joy has a pretty good definition of his moderate position as well:

…he is that mythical Republican of yesternever, whose loathsome extremist conservatism is delivered in a calm voice and with a disarming smile, to soothe and distract you from the terrible things he is saying.

wonkette.com

And, in addition to his loathsome views on women, his education record is equally repulsive.

John Kasich Gets “F” On Schools From Washington Post

The bedsheet list included a “scandal-ridden charter school sector” while public schools suffered cuts in the state budget as Kasich pushed, and won, increased funding for the charters. And then there was David Hansen, the state charters boss, who resigned after it was discovered that he was cooking low charter scores to make them look better. (Hansen’s wife, Beth, is Kasich’s campaign manager.) There are other blots on his school records, the Post reported, from controversial state takeover of failing schools to a “questionable teachers evaluation system.”

plunderbund.com

And, if you want to see more of “petulant” Johnny than that little clip of his Plain Dealer interview in Samantha Bee’s piece.

wonkette.com

(I’ll keep posting it until the phony asshole is out of our hair for good!)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:25:08pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

And yet, the word ‘reparations’ causes more head explosions than the word ‘socialist’.

So true.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:25:44pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

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MLK wasn’t as milquetoast and genteel as he’s made out to be. He was probably closer in philosophy to Malcolm X than we have been led to believe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:25:49pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

And yet, the word ‘reparations’ causes more head explosions than the word ‘socialist’.

Because we took that land and labor fair and square…

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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:26:01pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

My sister and her husband say they’re seriously considering Italy if Trump wins. I said we’d visit from our cabin in Canada.

we’re considering Norway, since my wife has dual citizenship.

Hopefully it won’t come to that. I really like my house.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:26:49pm

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because we took that land and labor fair and square…

Say the folks still running the game.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:28:49pm

re: #177 makeitstop

we’re considering Norway, since my wife has dual citizenship.

Hopefully it won’t come to that. I really like my house.

I have been living in Germany as a US citizen for 28 years, never considered giving up my US citizenship but if Trump gets in, then I will buy a room full of IKEA furniture, wash my car every Saturday, start wearing socks and sandals and eating brown bread with liverwurst and pickles for dinner (all legal preconditions for applying for citizenship here)…

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:30:06pm

re: #175 Patricia Kayden

MLK wasn’t as milquetoast and genteel as he’s made out to be. He was probably closer in philosophy to Malcolm X than we have been led to believe.

MLK, like Gandhi, knew that when your opponent has an overwhelming superiority in force, you make them look like thugs for using that force. He was very good at using the television camera when it was necessary.

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:31:13pm

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I have been living in Germany as a US citizen for 28 years, never considered giving up my US citizenship but if Trump gets in, then I will buy a room full of IKEA furniture, wash my car every Saturday, start wearing socks and sandals and eating brown bread with liverwurst and pickles for dinner (all legal preconditions for applying for citizenship here)…

My sister has been there about the same length of time and she still has not recovered from the socks with sandals thing.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:32:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:33:44pm
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Nyet  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:34:04pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

My sister has been there about the same length of time and she still has not recovered from the socks with sandals thing.

You don’t get it! Without the sandals the socks will get dirty! /

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:35:03pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

My sister has been there about the same length of time and she still has not recovered from the socks with sandals thing.

exactly: if it is warm enough for sandals, it is too warm for socks…

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:35:05pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe hypnosis will work. And if that doesn’t work, we’ll scare them with ghost stories.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:37:13pm

re: #182 Dave In Austin

“Nobody reads the Bible more than me.” — Donald J. Trump, just now.”

Especially the bit with the Two Corinthians and their rich leather seats.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:37:57pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

0_o

Why is this man?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:39:09pm

re: #188 Testy Toad T

0_o

Why is this man?

he still has money to spend and is not gonna let it go to waste

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:39:23pm

LOL I forgot to include Ben Carson in my Disney candidates list.
Sleepy from Snow White.

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b.d.  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:40:01pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Truth serum”?

This guy is a doctor who can legally prescribe drugs, right?

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:40:06pm

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

he still has money to spend and is not gonna let it go to waste

I wonder if he’s still spending most of his money paying his fundraisers. I don’t remember what the burn rate was, but it was staggering.

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:44:31pm

re: #192 Testy Toad T

I wonder if he’s still spending most of his money paying his fundraisers. I don’t remember what the burn rate was, but it was staggering.

That probably doesn’t matter very much, as long as he doesn’t go into debt. This supposed run for the presidency is all about setting up future wingnut welfare opportunities for Carson.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:46:26pm

re: #133 Lidane

Be idealistic for immigration and vote for Clinton. :)

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Sionainn  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:47:46pm

re: #191 b.d.

“Truth serum”?

This guy is a doctor who can legally prescribe drugs, right?

No, he cannot. He let his license lapse.

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b.d.  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:48:03pm

re: #186 Belafon

Maybe hypnosis will work. And if that doesn’t work, we’ll scare them with ghost stories.

Dr. Ben will save us monies on health care by giving doctors x-ray glasses.

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b.d.  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:48:17pm

re: #195 Sionainn

No, he cannot. He let his license lapse.

Good

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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:49:56pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Oooh, my Kindle Fire tablet just got a very nice new System update. Completely revamped the interface. Looks much nicer.

Cool, hope they get to mine soon.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:50:59pm

Testing, testing, Skatalites stylie

instagram.com

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:52:42pm
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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:55:22pm
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Mike Lamb  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:55:45pm

Are we numb to GOP bullshit? Because I feel like the letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee should be a way bigger fucking deal.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:56:02pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@RealBenCarson: Use “truth serum” to extract information from terror suspects t.co pic.twitter.com
— CNN (@CNN) February 23, 2016

Obama’s response:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:56:19pm

re: #202 Mike Lamb

Are we numb to GOP bullshit? Because I feel like the letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee should be a way bigger fucking deal.

Both sides something something something.

Yeah, pretty much.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:56:35pm

re: #200 wrenchwench

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I’ll say one thing for The Intercept: they can click bait with the best of them.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:56:54pm

re: #202 Mike Lamb

Are we numb to GOP bullshit? Because I feel like the letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee should be a way bigger fucking deal.

There’s only so many times you can shout DO YOUR FUCKING JOB before you just start crying into your cereal.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:57:47pm

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

maurice raving

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:58:53pm

re: #200 wrenchwench

US Air Force, of course.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 23, 2016 • 1:59:23pm

re: #202 Mike Lamb

Are we numb to GOP bullshit? Because I feel like the letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee should be a way bigger fucking deal.

It wouldn’t be an issue right now if Democratic voters didn’t stay home during midterms because they were upset with Obama for not giving them a pony. Actions have consequences and hopefully Bernie Bros realize this come November (If Hillary gets the nod).

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Belafon  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:00:10pm

re: #202 Mike Lamb

Are we numb to GOP bullshit? Because I feel like the letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee should be a way bigger fucking deal.

There’s a pretty good rant from Tom Levenson at Balloon Juice. He even called his senator’s, Ayotte’s, office (a reply to a comment):

I actually called Ayotte’s office to let her know I’ll be seeing her in Salem and environs this fall.

The nice young man on the other end of the line objected to my suggesting that racism was at play in this disrespect for the President, noting that Ayotte herself was no racist: he was black and she’d hired him.

He wanted an apology to the senator for the suggestion, and I told him of course not. I hadn’t said Ayotte herself was racist — just that in supporting this disrespect she gave comfort and cover to those who are — while noting that the GOP’s presidential candidates offered some proof of the existence of a racist strain in the party. He did not ask again.

I think, in part, we’re waiting on Obama to make a nomination. Right now, the blocking is pretty abstract. We need a concrete example to really make some noise.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:00:14pm

re: #133 Lidane

I was actually leaning heavily towards Bernie for a while. Now I don’t know what to do because there’s a lot that’s been turning me off lately.

We’re going to have an early voting caravan in the office later this week. I’ll be voting Democratic no matter what, but I don’t know which way to go. Do I cast an idealistic vote (Bernie) or one with the general election in mind (Hillary)?

A vote for a candidate in the primary might be a vote for that same person in the general. If you’re good with that, vote accordingly.

I hope that made sense. It does in my mind…I know what I’m trying to say but I’m not sure if it translated well to words.

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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:01:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:02:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:02:24pm
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MsJ  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:02:29pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

Yoo hoo. Calling all GOP apologists.

Care to try to explain this crap? Preferably before it collapses into a gravitational singularity due to the massive amounts of shit involved in its creation.

Sedition. Not allowing a sitting POTUS to carry out their constitutional duties. What else do you call it?

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wrenchwench  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:03:33pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

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I hope it wasn’t a pony-tail slur.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:03:50pm

re: #213 Charles Johnson

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He meant “layer”, implying you’re as fake as Obama’s BC.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:04:41pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why not a golden lasso?

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:05:10pm

If nothing else the Kasich case shows how easily our media can be led around by a ring in their collective nose when candidates and their sponsors decide it might be useful to play around with the language. Kasich has that folksy Midwestern style (which makes me cringe btw), he hasn’t used the F word or said anything that has drawn a protest from a foreign government, and he portrays himself as a “moderate.”
This is all it takes for the media to fall right into line. The word goes out far and near that he is a “moderate” and even a reasonable alternative to the rest of the GOP’s insane clown posse. The truth, as easily discovered, is far different and could be just as easily reported if the major media did their jobs.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:06:02pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:06:45pm

re: #202 Mike Lamb

Are we numb to GOP bullshit? Because I feel like the letter from the Senate Judiciary Committee should be a way bigger fucking deal.

My assumption all along was that something like this would happen, and that the MSM will let it slide. Here’s hoping I’m wrong about the second half of that prediction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:08:37pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:08:40pm
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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:08:57pm

I think the media is also way too excited about the primaries to be willing to devote above-the-fold paragraphs to boring congressional blah blah whatever stuff.

Trump and omfgclinton!!!1 sell ad space.

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:10:10pm

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

If nothing else the Kasich case shows how easily our media can be led around by a ring in their collective nose when candidates and their sponsors decide it might be useful to play around with the language. Kasich has that folksy Midwestern style (which makes me cringe btw), he hasn’t used the F word or said anything that has drawn a protest from a foreign government, and he portrays himself as a “moderate.”
This is all it takes for the media to fall right into line. The word goes out far and near that he is a “moderate” and even a reasonable alternative to the rest of the GOP’s insane clown posse. The truth, as easily discovered, is far different and could be just as easily reported if the major media did their jobs.

Every day that the main stream media pretends that the US Republican party is an option civilized people can rationally consider is another day they fail to do their most basic job —— i.e., report the damn news.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:10:27pm
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Romantic Heretic  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:12:36pm

re: #212 makeitstop

What could possibly go wrong?

Business owner requiring all employees to be armed

My reply if someone I worked for did this: Toodles. I’m working somewhere else. In the words of Jim Jefferies, “The First Amendment gives me the right to say the Second Amendment sucks dicks

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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:13:37pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That bird is hilarious. Also NSFW.

Cockatoo freakout

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:15:56pm

re: #182 Dave In Austin

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:17:30pm

I’m not one of them fancy Bible scholars, but I think there’s this important dude called Jesus and in the book he has some thoughts about praying privately versus bragging about how holy you are.

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danarchy  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:19:27pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

My sister and her husband say they’re seriously considering Italy if Trump wins. I said we’d visit from our cabin in Canada.

Isn’t Italy the country that made Silvio Berlusconi prime minister 4 times? The grass is always greener.

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Jenner7  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:20:28pm
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Nyet  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:20:32pm

re: #230 Testy Toad T

I’m not one of them fancy Bible scholars, but I think there’s this important dude called Jesus and in the book he has some thoughts about praying privately versus bragging about how holy you are.

The Gospel Jesus was sure bragging plenty:

I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Trump probably prefers that part of his teachings.

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EPR-radar  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:22:00pm

re: #228 makeitstop

Bit of a silly question in the video where someone is asking why the bird talks like that. This bird was around a total potty-mouth and can imitate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:22:03pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

Bigotry? Perhaps you should move to Iraq or Afghanistan and report back 2 me about bigotry? If you make it back!

I can’t be considered a bigot if there are worse bigots elsewhere! Take that, Libtard!

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:25:29pm

re: #233 Nyet

The Gospel Jesus was sure bragging plenty:

Trump probably prefers that part of his teachings.

Trump thinks Jesus was a low-energy savior. It’s sad!

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Jay C  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:25:54pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

I can’t be considered a bigot if there are worse bigots elsewhere! Take that, Libtard!

It’s astounding how this “argument”, lame as it is, always seems the be the wingers’ all-purpose comeback to virtually any accusation of prejudice: so Iraq and Afghanistan are bigoted: so what? Aren’t we supposed to be better than them?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:26:26pm

butthurtz

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Testy Toad T  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:27:04pm

re: #237 Jay C

It’s astounding how this “argument”, lame as it is, always seems the be the wingers’ all-purpose comeback to virtually any accusation of prejudice: so Iraq and Afghanistan are bigoted: so what? Aren’t we supposed to be better than them?

And yet something something American Exceptionalism.

You can’t have cognitive dissonance if you have no cognition.

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Nyet  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:27:09pm

re: #236 Testy Toad T

Trump thinks Jesus was a low-energy savior. It’s sad!

He probably likes how the gospel Jesus dealt with the Canaanite woman though. Nothing like slurring whole ethnic groups.

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iossarian  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:27:52pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHY DO LIBERALS NOT BLINDLY REPEAT OUR CLEVER TALKING POINTS???

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:28:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:29:28pm
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MsJ  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:31:04pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s the goddamndest, funniest fucking fuck of a fucking bird I’ve ever fucking seen. Fuck!

(I haven’t laughed that hard in a while!)

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makeitstop  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:32:20pm

re: #244 MsJ

That’s the goddamndest, funniest fucking fuck of a fucking bird I’ve ever fucking seen. Fuck!

(I haven’t laughed that hard in a while!)

Wait, this might even make you laugh even harder. And it’s safe for work!

Full throttle cockatoo

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:34:30pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

butthurtz

[Embedded content]

Heritage Foundation: Regulations are bad! They’re unnecessary! They’re killing America and making it impossible to get anything done! Except regulations on abortion women’s health. There’s absolutely no regulation too onerous when it comes to making abortion less available keeping women safe and pregnant!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:35:25pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

They got to Scalia’s Doctor!

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Lidane  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:36:37pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Oliver exposed the decption of TRAP laws. I can see why Heritage would be pissed about that.

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MsJ  Feb 23, 2016 • 2:51:19pm

re: #245 makeitstop

Wait, this might even make you laugh even harder. And it’s safe for work!

[Embedded content]

So cute! I love that pink birdie!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 23, 2016 • 3:14:47pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sorry doc, but the EU won’t sell us that anymore.


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