Another Horrific Mass Shooting in Kansas

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HESSTON, Kan. (AP/SBG) — Authorities say they have responded to a shooting at a business that makes lawn mower products in south-central Kansas.

The sheriff told reporters Thursday night that the suspect has been killed by law enforcement. He would not confirm any additional fatalities, but he said there may have been up to 20 people injured and as many as three or four killed.

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Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:15:22pm

Re-posted from below.

How “thoughts and prayers” Brownback is dealing with gun violence.

On April 22, 2014, Governor Sam Brownback signed HB 2578 the CLEO Shall Sign and Comprehensive Preemption legislation. These new laws went into effect on July 1, 2014. Effective on that date there will no longer be any local control of firearms. All current local firearms ordinances are null and void and all firearms laws are uniform statewide. The bill:

Prohibits any city or county from expending funds derived from the proceeds of implementing, administering or operating a firearms buyback program.

Preempts any and all local control of firearms and ammunition. No city or county or agent of such will be able to adopt any ordinance, resolution or regulation or take any administrative action governing the purchase, transfer, ownership, storage, carrying on one’s person or transporting firearms or ammunition or any component or combination thereof.

No city or county or agent of such will be able to adopt any ordinance, resolution or regulation relating to the sale of a firearm by an individual who holds a federal firearms license that is more restrictive than any ordinance or regulation relating to the sale of any other commercial good.

Clarifies that no municipality can enact any ordinance, resolution, regulation or tax relating to the transportation, possession, carrying, sale, transfer, purchase, gift, devise, licensing, registration or use of a knife or knife making components. Nullifies all existing past ordinances and prohibits future ones.

Prohibits the destruction of seized firearms once they are no longer needed as evidence. They may be traded with other departments and KBI, sold or traded to licensed firearms dealers, used for testing or comparison by the forensics laboratory or given to the Kansas Department of Wildlife Parks and Tourism for use in Hunter Education programs. Payments for transfers will be credited to the asset seizure and forfeiture fund of the seizing agency.

If a weapon is seized from an individual and they are not convicted or adjudicated of a crime that prevents firearms ownership, it shall be verified it is not stolen and upon verification returned to the individual from whom it was seized within 30 days.
Cleans up the Knife Act from 2013 providing intended prohibition of enforcement of local ordinances passed prior to July 1, 2013 and addresses possession of knives by convicted felons. While daggers, dirks, dangerous knives, straight-edged razors, and stilettos are added back in to the law it is with an express intent and caveat that they are only prohibited for use with the intent to use it against another person unlawfully.

Prohibits municipalities from requiring disclosure or making a record of concealed carry permits. Cities and counties are permitted to adopt ordinances, resolutions, or regulations relative to the personnel policies governing concealed carry of handguns by city or county employees, so long as in compliance with this law. The bill requires any such records created by a municipality before the effective date of the bill be destroyed by July 31, 2014.

Requires that certification by a chief law enforcement officer (CLEO), when a sign off is required for the transfer of a firearm or other item regulated by the National Firearms Act (“NFA”), be provided within fifteen days as long as the applicant is not prohibited by law from receiving the firearm or other item.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:17:48pm

I’ve been waiting to do this since I saw the tweet someone posted this morning:

The article is about Illinois GOP’s bill that would keep women from getting a birth certificate or financial aid unless the dad is listed. Someone posted it this morning and I’ve been waiting to link it to Elizabeth.

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Jenner7  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:19:15pm

re: #2 Belafon

Pardon me, but that woman is a moron.

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EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:19:31pm

re: #2 Belafon

Good job. It is a chore to attempt to educate the clueless, but it may work.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:22:03pm

Senator Sanders sounding very naive right now about how his “revolution” will be successful.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:22:25pm

re: #2 Belafon

I’ve been waiting to do this since I saw the tweet someone posted this morning:

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The article is about Illinois GOP’s bill that would keep women from getting a birth certificate or financial aid unless the dad is listed. Someone posted is this morning and I’ve been waiting to link it to Elizabeth.

And if she’s like a lot of “progressives” I’ve run into in recent weeks, she’ll just shrug her shoulders and say that she won’t vote out of fear, that she won’t vote unless there’s a candidate she agrees with totally.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:22:43pm
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thecommodore  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:24:01pm

re: #2 Belafon

I’ve been waiting to do this since I saw the tweet someone posted this morning:

[Embedded content]

The article is about Illinois GOP’s bill that would keep women from getting a birth certificate or financial aid unless the dad is listed. Someone posted is this morning and I’ve been waiting to link it to Elizabeth.

This is also what happens when you don’t vote.

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Kragar  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:24:03pm
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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:24:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:24:34pm

smh

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:24:39pm

CNN says the debate starts at 5:30 Pacific time, but I suspect that’s a half hour before the real start, so the talking heads can inflict a bunch of drivel on us first.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:25:28pm

re: #2 Belafon

I’ve been waiting to do this since I saw the tweet someone posted this morning:

[Embedded content]

The article is about Illinois GOP’s bill that would keep women from getting a birth certificate or financial aid unless the dad is listed. Someone posted is this morning and I’ve been waiting to link it to Elizabeth.

She’s obviously not old enough to vote, might never be.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:25:43pm

The only reason not to vote is if you don’t know enough to make an informed decision. If you follow the issues, you care about politics, and you know where the candidates stand, you should be voting. Period. End of story. It’s not a system set up for, “I’ll only vote for the perfect candidate who matches my views in every way” - it’s a, “Vote for the lesser of two evils.” Like that system or not, it is what it is, and we need informed voters to participate in order to snap out of this funk of bullshit career politicians who have been riding the wave of apathy to power.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:25:53pm

Bad fucking day today

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:26:20pm

Shooter was a black guy, so reach for the can o’ Thug Narrative on the shelf. Gangsta pose pics and criminal records incoming in 5, 4, 3…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:26:34pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:26:50pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

And if she’s like a lot of “progressives” I’ve run into in recent weeks, she’ll just shrug her shoulders and say that she won’t vote out of fear, that she won’t vote unless there’s a candidate she agrees with totally.

I tell you what. I just watched a Teabagger take over Kentucky while only 30% of the electorate showed up to vote, and now he’s going to wreck higher education with 9% across-the-board budget cuts. If Trump is elected President because Democrats didn’t vote, I may say fuck it. I’m an old white man, and from now on I’m not going to give a shit anymore about anybody’s rights, or what kind of dystopian hellhole we’re going to leave our kids. All I want to know from now on is if you are going to cut my goddamn taxes or not.

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Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:26:59pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

CNN says the debate starts at 5:30 Pacific time, but I suspect that’s a half hour before the real start, so the talking heads can inflict a bunch of drivel on us first.

That’s way too early for real Texans to be completely drunk.

BTW, does the Texas GOP allow people to bring their guns to these things?

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:27:23pm

What more can be said about another mass shooting?

No guns were harmed in the making of the latest mass shooting.

Gallows humor, because this shit happens way too frequently and unless there’s a massive body count, it simply doesn’t even make headlines anymore.

6 people were killed in a spree shooting just a few days ago. White guy with a gun. Barely made a ripple in the news.

Only time it makes headline news is when terrorism may be at play, and Muslim terrorism at that.

The NRA gets to skate by thinking that we’re keeping ourselves safe with lax firearms laws. The GOP gets to slide by for their obstructionism over reasonable regulations and enforcement of existing firearms laws.

And every day the body count increases.

Every hour of every day. Every day.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:27:48pm

Matthews’ usual talk-shouting bit is having a bad influence on Sanders. Guys, you’re wearing microphones.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:27:57pm

Again I ask, will this event make it into the debate?

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:28:13pm

re: #22 freetoken

Again I ask, will this event make it into the debate?

It will now that a black man is the primary suspect.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:28:34pm

CNN really playing for the drama:

“4 men, one goal: Stop Trump”

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:28:49pm

re: #22 freetoken

Again I ask, will this event make it into the debate?

No because they’re violence deniers among other things.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:28:57pm

re: #23 thedopefishlives

By the way, whoever won the “shooter killed - clearly wasn’t white” remark downstairs takes the betting pool.

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Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:29:08pm

re: #16 Pawn of the Oppressor

Shooter was a black guy, so reach for the can o’ Thug Narrative on the shelf. Gangsta pose pics and criminal records incoming in 5, 4, 3…

Gosh, how could I have ever guessed?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:29:25pm

re: #27 Skip Intro

Gosh, how could I have ever guessed?

littlegreenfootballs.com

Speaking of whom. Perfect timing.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:29:56pm

re: #16 Pawn of the Oppressor

Shooter was a black guy, so reach for the can o’ Thug Narrative on the shelf. Gangsta pose pics and criminal records incoming in 5, 4, 3…

Ayep, minority shooter, which means we’re about to get a lot of lengthy talks about the “black community,” absentee fathers, drug epidemics, and all sorts of shit that doesn’t come up when the shooter is white. In those instances, we get a lot of talk about the need to address mental illness and how we can’t hold anybody but the shooter responsible for his actions.

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freetoken  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:30:23pm

It looks like CNN will stream the event live on their splash page, so we cord-cutters will be able to watch the Republicans.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:30:24pm

Every vote ever cast was a vote for or against the least evil. Draw the fucking diagram.

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Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:30:31pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

It’s really just too easy.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:30:54pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

It’s really just too easy.

As I also said downstairs, these people are utterly predictable.

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EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:31:29pm

re: #20 lawhawk

US gun culture is a depraved religion with an appalling and unprecedented central sacrament: random human sacrifice.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:31:33pm

Dana and Michelle must be running behind.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:31:50pm

re: #24 freetoken

CNN really playing for the drama:

Which is not how the game is played unless three of the four voluntarily drop out to allow one to take the lead. Part of the problem for them would be picking the one to remain that would keep the least amount of votes from going to Trump.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:31:59pm

re: #35 Pawn of the Oppressor

Dana and Michelle must be running behind.

Gotta wait for the spin machine to get up to speed.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:32:10pm
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darthstar  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:32:27pm

Sometimes I find prayer makes me feel better…

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:32:43pm

Not a fan, but Matthews is doing a good job questioning Sanders about how he’ll convert voter energy into pragmatic political change, and Sanders is doing a lousy job of providing an answer that resembles reality.

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Skip Intro  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:32:51pm

re: #20 lawhawk

From above: Prohibits the destruction of seized firearms once they are no longer needed as evidence.

Guns are more sacred to Americans than pieces of the original cross.

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:33:04pm

re: #20 lawhawk

What more can be said about another mass shooting?

No guns were harmed in the making of the latest mass shooting.

Gallows humor, because this shit happens way too frequently and unless there’s a massive body count, it simply doesn’t even make headlines anymore.

6 people were killed in a spree shooting just a few days ago. White guy with a gun. Barely made a ripple in the news.

Only time it makes headline news is when terrorism may be at play, and Muslim terrorism at that.

The NRA gets to skate by thinking that we’re keeping ourselves safe with lax firearms laws. The GOP gets to slide by for their obstructionism over reasonable regulations and enforcement of existing firearms laws.

And every day the body count increases.

Every hour of every day. Every day.

A repost from downstairs:

I’m sure that, in some RWNJ gun nuts’ view, this is a feature, not a bug, because a few gun deaths (almost every single day) are a small price (for them) for FREEDUMB!!!

Damn, I feel sick just channeling and typing that.

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EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:33:07pm

re: #31 Decatur Deb

Every vote ever cast was a vote for or against the least evil. Draw the fucking diagram.

Republicans seem to be getting into the habit of voting for the greater evil.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:33:30pm

Eight away from 20,000 karma. Don’t feel like celebrating.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:33:40pm
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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:34:09pm

re: #43 EPR-radar

Republicans seem to be getting into the habit of voting for the greater evil.

Because, in a stroke of supreme irony, they’re completely incapable of recognizing evil, despite claiming absolute moral authority to do so.

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ObserverArt  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:34:22pm

Just flipped on CNN…the intro they are doing sounds like they are hyping a championship sportsball game. I think I am already sick of this crap tonight…may have to just follow along with the Lizard comments. I’ve been at war with my bank again today…not in the best of moods. Don’t need anymore to piss me off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:35:20pm

And lets not forget that Excel was a gun-free area, so Dana will really be all over this.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:35:50pm

Got such agita that I’m going to have to do this drinking Yoo-Hoo.

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EPR-radar  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:36:22pm

re: #46 thedopefishlives

Because, in a stroke of supreme irony, they’re completely incapable of recognizing evil, despite claiming absolute moral authority to do so.

That’s pretty much the wingnuts. The GOP moderates are incapable of recognizing evil as a side effect of providing aid and comfort to the wingnuts.

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Testy Toad T  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:37:18pm

re: #30 freetoken

It looks like CNN will stream the event live on their splash page, so we cord-cutters will be able to watch the Republicans.

Is that some kind of threat?

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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:37:22pm

re: #23 thedopefishlives

It will now that a black man is the primary suspect.

And, by the end of the night, the SMOTI and the rest of the RWNJ-o-sphere will make it known that the shooter will be a lifelong liberal Democrat.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:37:45pm

re: #52 TedStriker

And, by the end of the night, the SMOTI and the rest of the RWNJ-o-sphere will make it known that the shooter will be a lifelong liberal Democrat.

Regardless of whether or not he actually was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:39:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:40:22pm
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TedStriker  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:41:40pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know it’s coming: “What’s his Muslim name, huh?”

*vomits*

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 25, 2016 • 5:49:52pm

Bumped forward

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2016 • 6:05:00pm

re: #40 De Kolta Chair

Matthews doing a good job questioning Sanders about how he’ll convert voter energy into pragmatic political change, and Sanders doing a lousy job of providing an answer that resembles reality.

There are no real answers to these questions. There are only plans. The same thing holds true for Bernie’s opponent.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2016 • 6:09:46pm
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unproven innocence  Feb 25, 2016 • 6:33:11pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“He was a painter at Excel.”
Hope I’m not alone in wondering if there’s any significance to that, like lousy ventilation, for example.

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BroncD  Feb 25, 2016 • 8:03:14pm

Has Jim Hoft blamed a liberal yet?


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