Michael Savage: Donald Trump Is the Real Victim of Racism

Totally unhinged wingnut rhetoric of the day
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Nobody with more than two functioning brain cells ever buys into the conservative “reverse racism” meme, but that never stops them from relentlessly flogging it at every opportunity, no matter how ridiculous.

And radio screamer Michael Savage’s attempt to apply “reverse racism” to Donald Trump has to be one of the most ridiculous examples ever.

“A tremendous degree of racism is being directed at Donald Trump and he is expressing certainly no racial issues, none whatsoever; he is expressing nationalist issues, not racist issues,” Savage said. “But the perverted, deviant left is so twisted in their thinking that anyone who stands up for our borders, our language and our culture is to these sickos a racist.”

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On his latest unhinged broadcast, Savage also says journalists who reported David Duke’s support for Donald Trump should be arrested. Or sued. Or arrested and sued, because they represent “everything wrong with America.” Especially Rachel Maddow and Jake Tapper; they’re the worst of the worst.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:48:26am

ORANGE LIVES MATTER!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:50:31am
On his latest unhinged broadcast, Savage also says journalists who reported David Duke’s support for Donald Trump should be arrested. Or sued. Or arrested and sued

Wow, very Freedom, such Liberty!

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:52:28am

This fits right in with the wingnut claim that Obama has divided America.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:54:02am

Why is it that ex-hippies who convert to conservatism become the most unhinged conservatives of all?

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:54:14am
“Anyone who stands up for our borders, our language and our culture is to these sickos a racist.”

54° 40’ or Fight!

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:54:39am

So, on the one hand:

A tremendous degree of racism is being directed at Donald Trump and he is expressing certainly no racial issues, none whatsoever; he is expressing nationalist issues, not racist issues

And then on the other:

Meduha reports on the (democrat) Klan supporting the Donld are ebil!!1!

That’s some impressive cognitive dissonance there. Or is this just a “Team R yay, Team D boo” thing?

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:55:31am

re: #4 makeitstop

Why is it that ex-hippies who convert to conservatism become the most unhinged conservatives of all?

It has to do with conversion… there’s an old saying about Catholic converts always being more Catholic than the Pope.

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The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:56:49am

To be fair, working conditions in Wonka factories could not have been very conducive to health or prosperity. I mean, you’re paid in chocolate, fed chocolate for meals, and I’m pretty sure it’s a safe extrapolation that the health care program was chocolate-heavy. Your housing is literally the whimsically-decorated factory floor…which is edible.

Do they have to take that ferrywith the inexplicable lightless hell-ride as a commute? Probably.

And worker safety? Half the machinery you’re operating is designed to deliver ironic punishments, and there is absolutely no chance the FDA was down with the “inflate person like a giant balloon while modifying them enough that they emit blueberry juice” additive.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:57:45am

re: #7 KGxvi

It has to do with conversion… there’s an old saying about Catholic converts always being more Catholic than the Pope.

Or the old saying ‘Nothing worse than a reformed sinner.’

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:59:08am

re: #8 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

All fair points. But I will offer as a counter point: chocolate.

Check and mate.

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The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:02:57am

re: #10 KGxvi

Yeah. But when you get hair cancer from the shrinking machine and your plan only provides intravenous cacaotherapy, and won’t acknowledge that you can get “diabetes lung” from continually inhaling aerosol-ized chocolate because you live, work, and sleep next to a chocolate river…you get tired of chocolate.

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:06:24am

re: #4 makeitstop

Why is it that ex-hippies who convert to conservatism become the most unhinged conservatives of all?

Wiener was always a grifter and a flake. I’d love to know, given his incredibly poor writing and research skills, how he managed to get a Ph.d from Berkeley. I assume some sort of intimidation/coercion was involved.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:08:21am

re: #12 Skip Intro

Wiener was always a grifter and a flake. I’d love to know, given his incredibly poor writing and research skills, how he managed to get a Ph.d from Berkeley. I assume some sort of intimidation/coercion was involved.

There was some hippy dippy program back in the day where he got to choose his very own area of expertise and he just made up some bullshit on the spot.

Just like Trump does whenever he is asked a question, any question.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:08:59am
“A tremendous degree of racism is being directed at Donald Trump and he is expressing certainly no racial issues, none whatsoever; he is expressing nationalist issues, not racist issues,” Savage said. “But the perverted, deviant left is so twisted in their thinking that anyone who stands up for our borders, our language and our culture is to these sickos a racist.”

Has Weiner-Savage starting talking about “White Genocide” and “Anti-Racist is code for Anti-White”? Wait for it….

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A Mom Anon  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:09:29am

….still digging around for my tiny violin….oops, I seem to have misplaced it. Poor widdle millionaires being treated so unfairwy, and their widdle feewings are hurted. awwww….

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TedStriker  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:10:42am

re: #11 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

Yeah. But when you get hair cancer from the shrinking machine and your plan only provides intravenous cacaotherapy, and won’t acknowledge that you can get “diabetes lung” from continually inhaling aerosol-ized chocolate because you live, work, and sleep next to a chocolate river…you get tired of chocolate.

Oompa-Loompas are so screwed…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:12:53am

Apparently there’s a committee of some kind to draft Speaker Ryan. For President, I imagine.

Just go set some money on fire instead.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:13:35am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:15:31am

re: #4 makeitstop

Why is it that ex-hippies who convert to conservatism become the most unhinged conservatives of all?

Converts are always zealous.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:15:35am

re: #18 Kragar

Molon lab rat.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:15:53am

re: #17 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Apparently there’s a committee of some kind to draft Speaker Ryan. For President, I imagine.

Just go set some money on fire instead.

The last desperate play by people like David Brooks who fantasize about the existence of a “moderate” wing of the GOP. The fact that their champion would be Paul Ryan, a “moderate” who would gut Medicare and hike taxes on the middle class to pay for a gargantuan tax cut for the 1% demonstrates the fallacy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:16:02am

re: #16 TedStriker

Oompa-Loompas are so screwed…

In the original Dahl book, the Oompa Loompas were from an African tribe that Wonka captured and enslaved.

I shit you not.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:17:17am

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

The last desperate play by people like David Brooks who fantasize about the existence of a “moderate” wing of the GOP. The fact that their champion would be Paul Ryan a “moderate” who would gut Medicare and hike taxes on the middle class to pay for a gargantuan tax cut for the 1% demonstrates the fallacy.

That Ryan is made out to be a moderate shows you how messed up things are in that party.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:17:34am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

In the original Dahl book, the Oompa Loompas were from an African tribe that Wonka captured and enslaved.

I shit you not.

Trump will deport them all so that real Americans can have those sweet chocolate factory jobs.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:17:43am

re: #17 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Apparently there’s a committee of some kind to draft Speaker Ryan. For President, I imagine.

Just go set some money on fire instead.

It’s too late at this point for anyone to enter the race and win the nomination before the convention. Three things I see needing to happen - first, Trump can’t sweep any of the states voting today; second Kaisch has to win Ohio; third, Rubio has to win Florida - for the GOP nomination to legitimately be thrown to the convention.

Also, if that happens, you can probably bet on Rule 40 (which is the rule saying a nominee at the convention must win at least 8 states) getting tossed. And probably a new rule that would allow for new nominees after the first round of voting.

Not going to lie, I kind of want to see this happen, just for the utter shit show it would obviously be.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:18:33am

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

The last desperate play by people like David Brooks who fantasize about the existence of a “moderate” wing of the GOP. The fact that their champion would be Paul Ryan, a “moderate” who would gut Medicare and hike taxes on the middle class to pay for a gargantuan tax cut for the 1% demonstrates the fallacy.

Yeah but Ryan doesn’t curse at rallies.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:18:49am

The BBB gave Trump U a D-rating in 2010. But the BBB has a 3-year cap on ratings, so complaints older than 3 years automatically drop off. As Trump U was winding down and the complaints fell off, the Trump U rating went up because there were no students still attending to complain, the BBB said.

“As a result, over time, Trump University’s BBB rating went to an A in July 2014 and then to an A+ in January 2015.”

Nonexistent business has top rating!

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:19:31am

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

The last desperate play by people like David Brooks who fantasize about the existence of a “moderate” wing of the GOP. The fact that their champion would be Paul Ryan, a “moderate” who would gut Medicare and hike taxes on the middle class to pay for a gargantuan tax cut for the 1% demonstrates the fallacy.

“Moderate” is always a relative term. Within the GOP, Ryan is probably a moderate. Within the general population, he is clearly not.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:21:10am

re: #24 Big Beautiful Door

Trump will deport them all so that real Americans can have those sweet chocolate factory jobs.

YOU’LL EAT SO MUCH CHOCOLATE YOU’LL GET SICK OF CHOCOLATE!!! THEN YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT FROM BEING SO SICK OF CHOCOLATE!! WIN WIN!!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:23:54am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:24:19am

re: #28 KGxvi

His statements, particularly on Twitter, belie any moderation. He’s pandering to the extremists core of the GOP. He consistently and constantly regurgitates right wing extremist nonsense about Obamacare, ignores the costs of his own plans, and claims that the GOP tax plans will save everyone money.

None of it holds up to the slightest scrutiny.

He might wrap everything up with a pretty spin, but the fact is that he is pushing the same crap Boehner did, and with the same level of success - still no Obamacare replacement plan that he’s claimed was right around the corner for 7 years now.

On and on it goes.

But if he thinks that he’s going to be the GOP savior, he’s got another thing coming.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:30:05am

re: #32 Dr. Matt

National Enquirer Endorses Trump, Calls Rubio ‘Nerdy’

Yes but who does Bat Boy endorse?

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:30:21am

Okay, here’s what I think is going on. Trump’s probably got so many close corporations and shell companies (REITs, LLCs, LLPs, etc.) doing business that the cumulative value may be in the billions, but that doesn’t address his personal fortune (which may be further split up by having his children in the family real estate business), or his annual income.

He’s managed to figure out how best to minimize his tax bill to the point where he actually qualifies for the NYS STAR tax relief program, which only applies to where AGI after certain adjustments is $500,000 or less.

So, his tax return income has to be $500,000 or less in order for him to get STAR relief, which is probably why he’s so reluctant to release his tax forms. They’d show that he’s not worth nearly as much as he claims personally.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:31:33am

re: #25 KGxvi

It’s too late at this point for anyone to enter the race and win the nomination before the convention. Three things I see needing to happen - first, Trump can’t sweep any of the states voting today; second Kaisch has to win Ohio; third, Rubio has to win Florida - for the GOP nomination to legitimately be thrown to the convention.

Also, if that happens, you can probably bet on Rule 40 (which is the rule saying a nominee at the convention must win at least 8 states) getting tossed. And probably a new rule that would allow for new nominees after the first round of voting.

Not going to lie, I kind of want to see this happen, just for the utter shit show it would obviously be.

It would be fabulous; you can just imagine the outrage over the establishment trying to brush aside Trump and Cruz, the two top vote getters, to install someone who didn’t even run. The rightwing talking heads might literally explode while screaming on the radio.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:31:59am

re: #31 lawhawk

I wasn’t suggesting that he’s actually a moderate. I don’t believe he is, I don’t believe he ever has been. My point was only that what qualifies as “moderate” depends on the wider population of which you are comparing it. Within the current GOP, as presently constructed, Ryan might actually be considered a moderate within that group. It’s a short spectrum. Within a wider spectrum of the US population, Ryan is clearly not a moderate.

There are no more liberal Republicans, in the Rockefeller sense. And the moderate (compared to the general population) Republican is also a dying breed. So as the GOP shifts further and further right, the middle of the party moves to the right.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:34:21am

re: #11 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

Yeah. But when you get hair cancer from the shrinking machine and your plan only provides intravenous cacaotherapy, and won’t acknowledge that you can get “diabetes lung” from continually inhaling aerosol-ized chocolate because you live, work, and sleep next to a chocolate river…you get tired of chocolate.

I can’t imagine that.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:34:27am

“We talk about cutting capital gains taxes that the 10,000 people that in the crowd cheering for Donald Trump, they are never going to get a capital gains cut because it doesn’t apply.”

“We talk about getting rid of the death tax,” he continued. “The death tax is not going to impact the 10,000 people in the crowd for Donald Trump. We talk about how great free trade deals are. Those free trade deals never trickle down to those 10,000 people in Donald Trump’s rallies.”

“You sound like Bernie Sanders,” NBC’s Chuck Todd pointed out.

“But herein lies the problem with the Republican Party,” Scarborough complained. “It never trickles down! Those people in Trump’s crowds, those are all the ones that lost the jobs when they get moved to Mexico and elsewhere. The Republican donor class are the ones that got rich off of it because their capital moved overseas and they made higher profits.”

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:36:33am

re: #38 Kragar

Scarborough “gave up the game” but he and his Trump aren’t actually offering anything else.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:36:35am

re: #38 Kragar

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I think you meant “The GOP base NEVER REALIZES that it ‘never trickles down’”

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:37:08am

Same game, new orange man on top.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:37:16am

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

Yes but who does Bat Boy endorse?

I’d think Bat Boy would be with Cruz with Cruz looks like a vampire.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:37:38am

NY Daily News article about the draft Ryan effort.
nydailynews.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:38:21am

re: #38 Kragar

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Glad Scarborough finally admits what Democrats and liberals were saying in the Reagan years that Trickle Down economics aka piss on you and tell you it’s rain and not piss on you economics is a fraud.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:38:23am

re: #38 Kragar

those are all the ones that lost the jobs when they get moved to Mexico and elsewhere.

And heck if any Mexicans even got to the middle class from them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:38:56am

re: #38 Kragar

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They give the rabble guns, racism, misogyny and homophobia; what else do they want?

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:39:08am

re: #35 Big Beautiful Door

It would be fabulous; you can just imagine the outrage over the establishment trying to brush aside Trump and Cruz, the two top vote getters, to install someone who didn’t even run. The rightwing talking heads might literally explode while screaming on the radio.

Depends on who that establishment replacement is. But if this race actually gets to the convention without a winner, there is no telling what could happen.

Also, keep in mind that traditionally the VP nominee is chosen first. Usually the presumptive presidential nominee is the only person who nominates a VP candidate. But if there’s no presumptive presidential nominee, we could be witness to two floor fights.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:39:50am
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:41:31am

re: #46 Big Beautiful Door

They give the rabble guns, racism, misogyny and homophobia; what else do they want?

Islamophobia. And a helping of anti Semitism too.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:43:28am

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

In the original Dahl book, the Oompa Loompas were from an African tribe that Wonka captured and enslaved.

I shit you not.

Wow. Did not know that. So maybe they should have gotten Marlon Brando to play Wonka instead of Gene Wilder.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:43:44am

I would very much like to break something.

Collet Stephan, 35, told police that a friend told the couple their son had meningitis — inflammation caused by an infection of the fluid surrounding the brain and spinal cord.

She said they tried to boost the boy’s immune system by feeding him with olive leaf extract, whey protein, water with maple syrup and juice with frozen berries.

They finally fed the boy, who was becoming stiff and lethargic after two weeks of illness, a mixture of apple cider vinegar, horseradish root, hot peppers, onion, garlic and ginger root.

The child was airlifted to a hospital after he stopped breathing, and doctors removed him from life support after five days.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:46:01am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

The linked photo looks like it just applies to property tax and the value of one property. Am I missing something?

Although, I am in no way shocked that Trump may have lied on taxes to get a $300 tax break. That’s just too Trump not to believe.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:47:15am

OT: New Order’s ‘Blue Monday,’ covered by a band playing instruments that were used in the 30s.

‘Blue Monday’ was released 33 years ago today. Who feels old?

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Ian G.  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:48:34am

re: #4 makeitstop

Why is it that ex-hippies who convert to conservatism become the most unhinged conservatives of all?

It seems true of Islamist terrorists too. A lot of the loons running off from the US or UK to fight for ISIS seem to be converts as well.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:50:04am

Super classy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:50:08am

re: #52 KGxvi

The linked photo looks like it just applies to property tax and the value of one property. Am I missing something?

Although, I am in no way shocked that Trump may have lied on taxes to get a $300 tax break. That’s just too Trump not to believe.

Trump’s 12 years of IRS audits are ‘very unusual’

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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:50:20am

re: #51 Kragar

This is a terrible example of how one person’s ignorance really isn’t as good as another person’s knowledge.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:50:31am

re: #51 Kragar

I would very much like to break something.

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Should be prosecuted and jailed.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:50:53am

Okay, everybody run to the window and check for flying pigs - CBS refuses to do phone-in interview with Trump.

Good for them.

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Ian G.  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:50:59am

re: #53 makeitstop

What makes me feel old is that albums released in 1991 are a quarter century old this year. Pearl Jam “Ten”, Nirvana ” Nevermind”, A Tribe Called Quest, “The Low End Theory”, My Bloody Valentine, “Loveless”, etc.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:51:12am

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

Trump’s 12 years of IRS audits are ‘very unusual’

Gracias. Again, I’m surprised in a total of zero ways.

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Ian G.  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:51:49am

re: #57 EPR-radar

This is a terrible example of how one person’s ignorance really isn’t as a good as another person’s knowledge.

See also, the entire GOP platform.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:51:49am

re: #54 Ian G.

That’s why I have eschewed being friends with many converts. I have noticed many of them, even if they don’t go hardline, end up going way outside of rational beliefs of something, even if not religious.

However, I did meet an entirely rational and logical convert yesterday who works with young adults at the Mosque. Incredibly nice and helpful. So, I am beginning to leave my shell.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:51:56am

Donald Trump’s claim to vast wealth doesn’t hold up

A couple of years ago he sued someone who claimed he wasn’t really a “billionaire” only a “millionaire”

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CuriousLurker  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:52:20am

OT Drive-by: Just stopping by to gloat.

Last week there was also this:

That is all. Back to the salt mines..

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Jay C  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:54:25am

re: #34 lawhawk

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Okay, here’s what I think is going on. Trump’s probably got so many close corporations and shell companies (REITs, LLCs, LLPs, etc.) doing business that the cumulative value may be in the billions, but that doesn’t address his personal fortune (which may be further split up by having his children in the family real estate business), or his annual income.

He’s managed to figure out how best to minimize his tax bill to the point where he actually qualifies for the NYS STAR tax relief program, which only applies to where AGI after certain adjustments is $500,000 or less.

So, his tax return income has to be $500,000 or less in order for him to get STAR relief, which is probably why he’s so reluctant to release his tax forms. They’d show that he’s not worth nearly as much as he claims personally.

So does his only “income” derive from being Chancellor of the (non-profit) Trump U???

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:54:32am

re: #51 Kragar

I bet they’re anti-GMO too…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:55:14am
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sizzzzlerz  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:55:28am

re: #40 The Vicious Babushka

I think you meant “The GOP base NEVER REALIZES that it ‘never trickles down’”

Just leave it at “The GOP base NEVER REALIZES”. It works in an infinite number of ways.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:56:03am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

He’s a fan of both Bernie AND Trump. I don’t know how these types tick.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:56:19am

Will we ever reach “peak dumbass Trump take”?

How Al Franken Paved the Way for Donald Trump

Probably not.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:57:36am

Being that I was born in 1990, I knew bupkis on the Hare Krishna, so I looked them up.

RationalWiki has some things there.

Can the older people fill me in more? I definitely wasn’t around during their heyday.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:58:03am

Paged Snarkbite

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Ian G.  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:58:36am

re: #70 Nyet

He’s a fan of both Bernie AND Trump. I don’t know how these types tick.

Superficial “fuck the establishment” feelings with no consideration for what each actually stands for. It actually doesn’t surprise me much.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:59:02am

re: #71 bratwurst

It it looks like a dumbfuck and it writes like a dumbfuck…

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:59:43am

re: #72 Ziggy_TARDIS

Being that I was born in 1990, I knew bupkis on the Hare Krishna, so I looked them up.

RationalWiki has some things there.

Can the older people fill me in more? I definitely wasn’t around during their heyday.

See the movie “Airplane”. It’ll tell you everything you need to know.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:59:59am

re: #71 bratwurst

Will we ever reach “peak dumbass Trump take”?

How Al Franken Paved the Way for Donald Trump

Probably not.

Silly me, all this time I thought it was Jesse Ventura
//………………………// bazillion//

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:00:06pm

re: #72 Ziggy_TARDIS

Being that I was born in 1990, I knew bupkis on the Hare Krishna, so I looked them up.

RationalWiki has some things there.

Can the older people fill me in more? I definitely wasn’t around during their heyday.

In Russia they were pretty harmless Hindu-“hippies” disliked by the Church.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:00:17pm

re: #76 sizzzzlerz

See the movie “Airplane”. It’ll tell you everything you need to know.

Airplane! (1980): 2:05 - 2:57 (1080p)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:00:37pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:00:51pm

Here is why CuriousLurker might have found Graeme Wood familiar, by the way.

He seems to be a friend of Sam Harris.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:01:09pm

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

Well, he’s either making $500,000 or less, or he’s knowingly submitting false information to the NYS Department of Taxation and Finance (and NYC Finance Department) in claiming credits or deductions for which he is not entitled to.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say he’s making $500,000 or less in income.

That could make sense. He could be plowing the income back into his business enterprises, taking a minimal salary. Most of his net worth is tied up in real estate. And he can write off all those jet flights on the corporate jet as business expenses or the like (and that could also explain the audits).

Problem is, as others are already pointing out, that the IRS will leave you alone for a couple of years if their original audit finds no wrongdoing. If they find problems in one tax year, that’ll extend the tax years that they’ll look into (looking for patterns of avoidance/evasion). So, if Trump is claiming that he’s been under audit for the last 12ish years, that seems to suggests that the IRS has been finding fishy stuff for that long.

The IRS simply doesn’t have the manpower to spend on a single taxpayer like that - even if it’s Trump.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:02:19pm

re: #72 Ziggy_TARDIS

Being that I was born in 1990, I knew bupkis on the Hare Krishna, so I looked them up.

RationalWiki has some things there.

Can the older people fill me in more? I definitely wasn’t around during their heyday.

Fink a book called “Monkey on a Stick”. It is sensationalized in places, but it’s also a highly accessible history of the movement. The first decade of Swami Prabhupada’s mission to the west is nothing short of an astonishing story that deserves to be better known.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:02:30pm

re: #70 Nyet

He’s a fan of both Bernie AND Trump. I don’t know how these types tick.

White protectionist gun nut without any strong ideological beliefs could go for either.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:03:38pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Exactly what I was talking about in my Open Letter. Do real Dems RT this? That guy did.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:04:04pm

re: #83 bratwurst

Fink a book called “Monkey on a Stick”. It is sensationalized in places, but it’s also a highly accessible history of the movement. The first decade of Swami Prabhupada’s mission to the west is nothing short of an astonishing story that deserves to be better known.

Oooh. Actual knowledge. I’m impressed.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:04:10pm

re: #82 lawhawk

Well, he’s either making $500,000 or less, or he’s knowingly submitting false information to the NYS Department of Taxation and Finance (and NYC Finance Department) in claiming credits or deductions for which he is not entitled to.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say he’s making $500,000 or less in income.

That could make sense. He could be plowing the income back into his business enterprises, taking a minimal salary. Most of his net worth is tied up in real estate. And he can write off all those jet flights on the corporate jet as business expenses or the like (and that could also explain the audits).

Problem is, as others are already pointing out, that the IRS will leave you alone for a couple of years if their original audit finds no wrongdoing. If they find problems in one tax year, that’ll extend the tax years that they’ll look into (looking for patterns of avoidance/evasion). So, if Trump is claiming that he’s been under audit for the last 12ish years, that seems to suggests that the IRS has been finding fishy stuff for that long.

The IRS simply doesn’t have the manpower to spend on a single taxpayer like that - even if it’s Trump.

Are you kidding? Most of the IRS is dedicated to harassing and oppressing real American Conservative Heroes like Trump!//

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:04:46pm

re: #59 makeitstop

Okay, everybody run to the window and check for flying pigs - CBS refuses to do phone-in interview with Trump.

Good for them.

Wait a bit. Moonves will have a word with them. After all, he’s the one that said Trump was bad for the country but good for CBS.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:04:46pm

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

Some men just like to watch the world bern.

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KingKenrod  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:05:08pm

I guess it’s possible Trump wasn’t paid anything in 2015 for The Apprentice, but last year he claimed he was making $15 million a year to that point.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:05:11pm

It’s Willer Time??????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:05:15pm

Four days ago it snowed all day and night.
Today is 75F and sunny. One of the neighboring farmers just came over with his tractor and tiller box, and turned up a small but very nice garden plot for me. It will be nice working something smaller than several acres for a change.
I am soooo ready for Spring!

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:05:55pm

re: #71 bratwurst

Will we ever reach “peak dumbass Trump take”?

How Al Franken Paved the Way for Donald Trump

Probably not.

DEFINITELY not.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:05:58pm

Because Jenner cares for women. By being a Cruz shill.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:07:29pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

Oooh. Actual knowledge. I’m impressed.

I did not know much more than shaven headed folks selling flowers until I picked up that book. Since then it has been a significant area of interest for me. What the movement ultimately became (resulting in a number of awful things including child molestation, federal racketeering convictions and murder) takes nothing away from the remarkable story of Swami Prabhupada, believe it or not.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:08:48pm

re: #94 Nyet

Because Jenner cares for women. By being a Cruz shill.

Jenner doesn’t even represent her own (the trans community). She does more harm than good because people can point and say See! They can be rich, too, they’re just too (fill in the epithet).

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:10:21pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

Four days ago it snowed all day and night.
Today is 75F and sunny. One of the neighboring farmers just came over with his tractor and tiller box, and turned up a small but very nice garden plot for me. It will be nice working something smaller than several acres for a change.
I am soooo ready for Spring!

Winter is having it’s last, weak gasp here today. Temp in the 50s. Spring is 70s and 80s, Summer is up to 95 Fahrenheit, then it starts raining.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:10:31pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:11:17pm

re: #96 MsJ

Jenner doesn’t even represent her own (the trans community). She does more harm than good because people can point and say See! They can be rich, too, they’re just too (fill in the epithet).

It just goes to show you that being brave enough to come out to the world about such a huge matter doesn’t mean you aren’t an asshole, too.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:12:35pm

re: #51 Kragar

I would very much like to break something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:13:51pm

oh….

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:17:13pm

PLL, whenever you have a temptation to generalize about a huge group of people, always try to think: “What if I replace it in this sentence with one of the groups I’m a member of? How will that sound then?”.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:17:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:18:18pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:18:41pm

I’ll have to try my arm since I’m on a laptop, not a phone.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:21:02pm
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:21:17pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

What’s Drudge’s alleged failure for these Troubled Hearts?

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:22:34pm

OFFS:

Saved since it has since been deleted.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:22:49pm

re: #106 Kragar

I’m sure Trump will find a place for them.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:23:02pm

re: #106 Kragar

uggggh

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:23:45pm

re: #108 lawhawk

OFFS:

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Saved since it has since been deleted.

The Internet is forever.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:25:47pm

I am beginning to wonder about Tulsi Gabbard’s resignation more. I wonder if some skeletons are about to fall out of the closet.

I do hope the Hillary camp has someone to primary her.

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Kilroy01  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:26:49pm

Totally off topic…
How Deadpool Should Have Ended
Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:26:59pm

re: #106 Kragar

They have another tweet:

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:27:19pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:27:48pm

MSNBC found two perfect examples of Florida Man, idiots who plan to vote for Clinton in the primary because they’re registered Democrats but then are thinking of voting for Trump in the general election.

Florida Men Tell MSNBC They’re Voting for Hillary Clinton in Primary and Donald Trump in Genreral

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:28:05pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

They may want to put a one-man restriction on this bozo.

The mayor of a Central Florida city is planning to visit Cuba and return home on a makeshift raft so he can better understand what Cuban migrants go through when crossing the Florida Straits.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:29:17pm

I just cast my early vote for Congresswoman Duckworth in the Democratic Senate primary here in Illinois. The GOP seems genuinely afraid that she might pose a threat to Senator Kirk. The contrast between someone who gave her legs in service to her country and a man who lied about his military history seems troubling to the Republicans for some reason.

And I was tempted to vote in the Republican primary here instead (as this was entirely possible), but I decided I wanted to show my support for Clinton and Duckworth more than I wanted to have a hand in the GOP meltdown.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:30:23pm

re: #118 bratwurst

I just cast my early vote for Congresswoman Duckworth in the Democratic Senate primary here in Illinois. The GOP seems genuinely afraid that she might pose a threat to Senator Kirk. The contrast between someone who gave her legs in service to her country and a man who lied about his military history seems troubling to the Republicans for some reason.

And I was tempted to vote in the Republican primary here instead (as this was entirely possible), but I decided I wanted to show my support for Clinton and Duckworth more than I wanted to have a hand in the GOP meltdown.

Oh, she’s a candidate for Senate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:31:07pm

re: #119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh, she’s a candidate for Senate?

She’s running for Kirk’s seat.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:31:47pm

re: #119 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh, she’s a candidate for Senate?

Yes indeed!

Maybe we can all consider a donation in honor of this tweet today?

tammyduckworth.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:32:08pm

Imani just won the Internet

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:32:43pm

Marcy Stech from Emily’s List on my teevee. Very pretty lady.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:35:06pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:35:23pm

The Climate Change denying blog “Watts up with that” is now promoting the ideas of Immanuel Velikovsky.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:35:58pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why isn’t there a International Man’s Day?!??!?!?

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:36:17pm

re: #125 Ziggy_TARDIS

The Climate Change denying blog “Watts up with that” is now promoting the ideas of Immanuel Velikovsky.

DAFUQ?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:37:58pm

re: #126 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why isn’t there a International Man’s Day?!??!?!?

It starts on March 9th and continues until March 7th of the following year…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:38:28pm

While we were talking about GMO’s someone kindly sent this video:
businessinsider.com.au

player.ooyala.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:39:40pm

Va. Senate panel proposes Cuccinelli for state Supreme Court

RICHMOND — A Virginia Senate panel on Tuesday nominated former attorney general Ken Cuccinelli II to the Virginia Supreme Court, a move aimed at handing Gov. Terry McAuliffe a particularly bitter defeat in a long-running judicial battle.

McAuliffe (D) narrowly defeated Cuccinelli (R) in the 2013 governor’s race.

Sen. Richard Stuart (R-Stafford) proposed Cuccinelli after the Senate failed to muster the votes needed to elevate Appeals Court Judge Rossie D. Alston Jr. to the state Supreme Court.

Happy International Women’s Day!
/////////////

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:41:12pm

re: #125 Ziggy_TARDIS

The Climate Change denying blog “Watts up with that” is now promoting the ideas of Immanuel Velikovsky.

rationalwiki.org

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:41:34pm

There’s a TV ad for Cruz featuring one of those old, bearded duck murderers.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:45:02pm

re: #76 sizzzzlerz

See the movie “Airplane”. It’ll tell you everything you need to know.

Or “Serial”.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:45:24pm

re: #131 Teukka

Perfect example of crank magnetism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:46:18pm

re: #131 Teukka

rationalwiki.org

Best line from that entry:

Controversy reigned when the book’s publisher (Macmillan) was forced to tear up Velikovsky’s contract and pulp the book when it was top of the best-seller list, due to the ire of the scientific community who threatened to boycott Macmillan’s textbooks if it did not stop peddling the egregious bullshit.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Love it!

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Lidane  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:46:28pm
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Teukka  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:46:39pm

re: #134 Ziggy_TARDIS

Perfect example of crank magnetism.

No, it’s the vacuum in his heard reaching the critical mass for a black hole, sucking every crackpot theory in the neighborhood in…
*ducks*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:47:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:48:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:50:40pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And later he invokes Bork:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:51:29pm

Learning about the secret meeting of business and political elites to “stop Trump”, who all flew in to some place on their jets to meet about stopping Trump in a secret meeting.

This must be a pro-Trump plot.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:52:04pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

And later he invokes Bork:

Yeah but BORK!!!!!!11

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:53:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:53:16pm

Watts is raging about being “demonized” by Michael Mann and says he doesn’t support Velikovsky’s ideas.

Watts does, however, think “many of his predictions were confirmed,” and that, my friends, is complete nonsense.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:53:34pm

re: #143 Kragar

SAD!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:54:40pm

By the way, when someone says “many of Velikovsky’s predictions were confirmed,” that’s a de facto statement that they do support Velikovsky’s ideas.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:55:00pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:55:09pm

re: #143 Kragar

Trump’s campaign is casting a fake Latina assistant to rave about him. Job pays nothing. Good job, bro.

But if Trump wins, he makes your boyfriend ambassador to Venezuela…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:55:32pm

re: #143 Kragar

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Note: Must not ever, ever, say “Pendejo”.

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sagehen  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:56:23pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Glad Scarborough finally admits what Democrats and liberals were saying in the Reagan years that Trickle Down economics aka piss on you and tell you it’s rain and not piss on you economics is a fraud.

GHWB recognized that decades ago. Hence, “voodoo economics”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:56:37pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:56:50pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pretending that the rejection of Robert Bork was an unjust travesty is a very important part of the GOP/wingnut Articles of Faith. It may be second only to “Tax Cuts Uber Alles”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:59:12pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:59:14pm

Still butthurt about the Cruz/Rubio attack ads, but too cheap to spend his own money on attack ads of his own. Stingy!

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 12:59:35pm

re: #152 EPR-radar

Pretending that the rejection of Robert Bork was an unjust travesty is a very important part of the GOP/wingnut Articles of Faith. It may be second only to “Tax Cuts Uber Alles”.

In third place:

We will eventually identify something that a Democrat did that is worse than Watergate!

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whitebeach  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:00:10pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh….

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🎵 S-i-llll-verado

You better come to your senses

You been out plannin’ fences

Too long 🎵

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:00:29pm
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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:01:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:01:32pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Watts is raging about being “demonized” by Michael Mann and says he doesn’t support Velikovsky’s ideas.

Watts does, however, think “many of his predictions were confirmed,” and that, my friends, is complete nonsense.

This is the guy who was going to ‘audit’ all the weather stations used by NASA and Hadley to determine surface temperature trends, and then when it had been done and it turned out that the ‘Best’ stations actually had a more severe trend, he completely shut up about it.

And then when Physicist Richard Muller was going to do his own analysis of the historic surface temp data, Watts said he’d trust whatever Muller came up with. Then Muller came up with exactly what NASA and Hadley had previously found, and Watts claimed Muller had been ‘gotten to’.

Fucking pseudoscientific denialist fraud. I hope he invests in coastal Florida real estate…..

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:01:55pm

re: #147 MsJ

GAH!!

A $34,995 mentorship program was worth “nothing,” one participant said.
Boyce Chait, 84, and his wife Evelyn, 80, who live in New Jersey, demanded but were refused a refund after their $34,995 mentorship proved, Boyce told Brill, “to be worth nothing. When it came to the nitty-gritty, there was nothing there.” (Nonetheless, Boyce told Brill he and his wife would still “vote for Trump over Hillary Clinton,” because they said they are members of the Tea Party.)

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Tigger2  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:02:02pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They probably should have also used a few staples.

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:02:53pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks like something they’d do in this town. We have sidewalks with curbs with a 3’ drop to the street, and the city manager said, ‘If they were dangerous, we’d do something about them’. I haven’t had the chance to ask him how high would be dangerous.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:03:02pm

re: #147 MsJ

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I still fall back on the idea that he is mentally ill.

From his depo:

“But I will tell you I met many of the professors, and I also studied just about all the résumés. I’m very much into academics. You know, I was a good student.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:03:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:04:07pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:04:44pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not sure that turnout will get into double digits.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:04:59pm

re: #160 MsJ

GAH!!

This is why we can’t have nice things.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:05:08pm

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Well, it’s worked well so far.

Problem for him is that you can run ads of him talking verbatim and they show his bigotry and hate. Sad.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:09:29pm

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Still butthurt about the Cruz/Rubio attack ads, but too cheap to spend his own money on attack ads of his own. Stingy!

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Well, you know, he only makes a pathetic half mill a year. Got to stick to the budget!

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:10:36pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

I still fall back on the idea that he is mentally ill.

From his depo:

“But I will tell you I met many of the professors, and I also studied just about all the résumés. I’m very much into academics. You know, I was a good student.”

That quote struck a cord with me, too. He must think in that same simplistic formula: Statement, declarative statement, boast or gripe.

Buzzfeed did a great job with that Classics bit. It was right on target.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:11:49pm

re: #160 MsJ

GAH!!

Just like the people in Kentucky on Medicaid who voted for the guy planning to cancel their Medicaid.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:12:27pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:13:11pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And, what ever the hell this means…

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:13:22pm
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Lidane  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:13:26pm

Outstanding rant. A+, would cheer again:

Facebook Post

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:13:49pm

re: #170 MsJ

That quote struck a cord with me, too. He must think in that same simplistic formula: Statement, declarative statement, boast or gripe.

Buzzfeed did a great job with that Classics bit. It was right on target.

Here’s that classics thing I mentioned above.

buzzfeed.com

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gocart mozart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:13:55pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:14:02pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

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It means they are going to sue.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:14:22pm

re: #175 Lidane

Outstanding rant. A+, would cheer again:

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Shades of Max Cleland. This shit is fucking vile. Fuck Kirk and the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:14:25pm

re: #175 Lidane

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:15:13pm

re: #178 Big Beautiful Door

It means they are going to sue.

That was my thinking

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:15:38pm

re: #178 Big Beautiful Door

It means they are going to sue.

Or try to prosecute them in Moon Court.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:16:25pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

I’m thinking it has to do with fake lawyers, fake judges, CONSTITUTIONALISTS!!11!!!, and names written in very specific ways so they can take their stab at unlocking those millions upon millions of dollars the SovCit folks just know are lying around waiting for the right code breaker.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:16:42pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:17:20pm

re: #182 withak

Or try to prosecute them in Moon Court.

She said her lawyer assured her, which means a real court.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:18:38pm

re: #185 Big Beautiful Door

Assumes facts not in evidence. Lawyer could just as easily be one of these sovereign citizen types who thinks that they can find the right code they’ll win.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:18:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:19:44pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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Of course.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:20:11pm

re: #186 lawhawk

Assumes facts not in evidence. Lawyer could just as easily be one of these sovereign citizen types who thinks that they can find the right code they’ll win.

Sovcivs don’t like lawyers. They think there is a secret Constitutional Amendment which stripped all lawyers of their citizenship. They don’t typically use lawyers in their “courts.”

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:21:01pm

re: #185 Big Beautiful Door

She said her lawyer assured her, which means a real court.

You assume her lawyer is an actual lawyer…

I am glad that Oregon is protecting the identities of the State Troopers involved. You just know that they would be subjected to the typical sovereign citizen legalistic tactics if they were known publicly

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:21:04pm

Michigan and Mississippi today. Hmmm I think Clinton wins the Democratic ones and I’d take Trump winning both the GOP ones with Kasich and Cruz behind him in each state respectively.

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japa21  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:21:30pm

Quick comment about Trump’s income. The fact that he reports less than $500,000 income for 2015 says nothing about his net worth. He may be worth billions, as he claims, and much of it may be readily available to him to pay for his campaign.

And being a billionaire, millionaire or thousandaire is based upon net worth not a specific years income.

So to me, it is irrelevant.

All that is relevant to me is that he is a total asshole, but not quite as much of one as either Cruz or Rubio are. He at least is honest about his assholishness, where they try to deceive.

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:21:34pm

re: #189 Big Beautiful Door

Sovcivs don’t like lawyers. They think there is a secret Constitutional Amendment which stripped all lawyers of their citizenship. They don’t typically use lawyers in their “courts.”

Is it at this juncture I reveal my nickname for sovcits?

jkF1tsd+VMkULqfuQrVs3A==

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:22:09pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:23:15pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Michigan and Mississippi today. Hmmm I think Clinton wins the Democratic ones and I’d take Trump winning both the GOP ones with Kasich and Cruz behind him in each state respectively.

Republicans also have Hawaii Caucus and Idaho Primary along with Michigan & Mississippi

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:24:01pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart

Republicans also have Hawaii Caucus and Idaho Primary along wit Michigan & Mississippi

Ah okay. Hawaii, that’s a tough one to guess. Idaho, I’d pick Cruz to win that. Rubio for Hawaii perhaps? Oh Sanders for Idaho and Clinton for Hawaii.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:24:04pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart

Republicans also have Hawaii Caucus and Idaho Primary along wit Michigan & Mississippi

Will Trump supporters come out of their Idaho bunkers to vote?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:24:55pm

re: #197 Big Beautiful Door

Will Trump supporters come out of their Idaho bunkers to vote?

Only if the precinct is at the former Aryan Nations compound.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:26:33pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Ah okay. Hawaii, that’s a tough one to guess. Idaho, I’d pick Cruz to win that. Rubio for Hawaii perhaps? Oh Sanders for Idaho and Clinton for Hawaii.

Democrats only competing in Michigan and Mississippi today

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:27:01pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

Democrats only competing in Michigan and Mississippi today

Ah’ doh. Those should be Clinton sweeps then.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:27:56pm

I sent in my ballot early for Bernie, but if I was voting today I’d choose Hillary.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:29:13pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart

Democrats only competing in Michigan and Mississippi today

Or “competing”, as the case may be.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:29:23pm

re: #185 Big Beautiful Door

She said her lawyer assured her, which means a real court.

Depends on whether her lawyer has a hand-lettered license plate.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:29:25pm

Romney’s naked desire for the nomination is hurting the stop Trump movement.
slate.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:30:05pm

re: #204 Big Beautiful Door

Romney’s naked desire for the nomination is hurting the stop Trump movement.
slate.com

Because no one likes Mitt Romney still. Mitt’s spent more time running to be President than actually doing the things that qualify him to be President.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:30:34pm

re: #204 Big Beautiful Door

It’s weird, because he didn’t really appear to enjoy campaigning the last time around.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:30:53pm

“the kind of person who should be running is not in the race.”

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:31:00pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Ah’ doh. Those should be Clinton sweeps then.

Yeah, as for Republicans, there is no polling available for Hawaii, so it’s anyone’s guess.
Michigan and Mississippi look to be Trump wins. Idaho looks to go to Trump, but could be close for damn near anyone else.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:31:46pm

re: #192 japa21

Quick comment about Trump’s income. The fact that he reports less than $500,000 income for 2015 says nothing about his net worth. He may be worth billions, as he claims, and much of it may be readily available to him to pay for his campaign.

And being a billionaire, millionaire or thousandaire is based upon net worth not a specific years income.

So to me, it is irrelevant.

All that is relevant to me is that he is a total asshole, but not quite as much of one as either Cruz or Rubio are. He at least is honest about his assholishness, where they try to deceive.

I’m going to disagree slightly here. While the terms are based on net worth, you would think there is a passive income stream from the investments. For that income stream to be below $500,000, his net worth would definitely not be in the billions.*

* Unless he’s playing games with businesses and blurring a lot of the lines between business income and income for his personal use, which I believe is entirely likely here. What that says about the quality of his character is relevant, just like any of the other warning signs we see.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:31:57pm

I would not be at all surprised to see Kasich hold Michigan. Trump seems to underperform his polling pretty much everywhere, but it’s most profound in the midwest.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:32:01pm

re: #192 japa21

Six of one…. I see everything Trump as:

“Weird Al” Yankovic - Word Crimes

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:32:25pm

re: #208 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, as for Republicans, there is no polling available for Hawaii, so it’s anyone’s guess.
Michigan and Mississippi look to be Trump wins. Idaho looks to go to Trump, but could be close for damn near anyone else.

I had Idaho for Cruz because Idaho has those “Libertarian” types that seem to be going his way but that’s true. Are Michigan and Mississippi winner take all or prop? I can’t tell on Hawaii for the GOP. Small state and your point about the polling is true. Plus I don’t know the electorate that well. The Dem electorate is a little easier to predict.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:32:40pm

re: #175 Lidane

Outstanding rant. A+, would cheer again:

Oh, it’s lit now. Wright’s not going to let this go.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:33:22pm

re: #210 Testy Toad T

I would not be at all surprised to see Kasich hold Michigan. Trump seems to underperform his polling pretty much everywhere, but it’s most profound in the midwest.

I won’t be either honestly but I’m sticking with Trump. I think Kasich will win the populated areas but Trump will rack up wins in the other areas ut that’s a fair point.

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sagehen  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:38:45pm

re: #192 japa21

Quick comment about Trump’s income. The fact that he reports less than $500,000 income for 2015 says nothing about his net worth. He may be worth billions, as he claims, and much of it may be readily available to him to pay for his campaign.

And being a billionaire, millionaire or thousandaire is based upon net worth not a specific years income.

His net worth is the appreciated value of properties he inherited. That’s it. That’s all his wealth. It says *nothing* about his business skills. His business skills are crap.

Jay-Z and Diddy are far better businessmen than Donald Trump. Unlike him, they’re self-made. And unlike Trump, their liquor and clothing lines and colognes and other ancillary endeavors are successful.

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Lidane  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:39:49pm

Long meeting is LOOOOOOONG. I know why I’m here, since it involves one of our developers meeting with my client to walk them through a user tutorial for the database we built them. That said, this is a very technical conversation that goes over my head and it’s making my eyes glaze over.

It was supposed to be an hour. We’re coming up on an hour and forty minutes. Send help. Or cat videos.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:40:08pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

I had Idaho for Cruz because Idaho has those “Libertarian” types that seem to be going his way but that’s true. Are Michigan and Mississippi winner take all or prop? I can’t tell on Hawaii for the GOP. Small state and your point about the polling is true. Plus I don’t know the electorate that well. The Dem electorate is a little easier to predict.

Hawaii and Mississippi are proportional, Idaho and Michigan Winner-take-most (usually proportional unless winner take 50%) which polling doesn’t indicate,
The flood of Republican winner-take-all contests start on the 10th with the US Virgin Islands caucus. And come the 15th the majority of contests are winner-take-all.
So, I don’t really see how Trump doesn’t get the nomination

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:41:57pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

Hawaii and Mississippi are proportional, Idaho and Michigan Winner-take-most (usually proportional unless winner take 50%) which polling doesn’t indicate,
The flood of Republican winner-take-all contests start on the 10th with the US Virgin Islands caucus. And come the 15th the majority of contests are winner-take-all.
So, I don’t really see how Trump doesn’t get the nomination

Gotcha. Thanks.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:42:08pm

re: #215 sagehen

His net worth is the appreciated value of properties he inherited. That’s it. That’s all his wealth. It says *nothing* about his business skills. His business skills are crap.

Jay-Z and Diddy are far better businessmen than Donald Trump. Unlike him, they’re self-made. And unlike Trump, their liquor and clothing lines and colognes and other ancillary endeavors are successful.

I’m so stealing that & tweeting it.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:43:09pm

re: #149 Decatur Deb

Note: Must not ever, ever, say “Pendejo”.

However, MUUUUY GRANDE will flatter the boss.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:45:00pm

This was an interesting read:

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:45:18pm

re: #216 Lidane

Had a meeting like that where after 90 minutes of BS, one of the managers said we just needed to scrap a whole project and start from scratch. My co-worker thought he was on mute and sang out “CLUSTERFUCK!” across the line, but no one recognized his voice. There was a moment of silence, he slammed on mute, and went to OHFUCKOHFUCK mode.

The guy running the call just sighed, “yeah, sounds about right.”

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:47:49pm

As for myself, I once went 6 months of slipping “in accordance with the prophecy” into every single team call we had with no one calling me out on it

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:50:06pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Gotcha. Thanks.

This is what I’ve bookmarked to keep track of Dem & Rep contests and state polling
Repulican Party Primary Schedule
Republican Primary Statewide Polling
Democratic Party Primary Schedule
Democratic Primary Statewide Polling

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:50:11pm

re: #223 Kragar

As for myself, I once went 6 months of slipping “in accordance with the prophecy” into every single team call we had with no one calling me out on it

That’s awesome! Truly.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:50:35pm

re: #224 FormerDirtDart

This is what I’ve bookmarked to get track of Dem & Rep contests and state polling
Repulican Party Primary Schedule
Republican Primary Statewide Polling
Democratic Party Primary Schedule
Democratic Primary Statewide Polling

TY.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:52:52pm

re: #225 MsJ

That’s awesome! Truly.

“We’ve been able to scan multiple sites using the new procedures in accordance with the prophecy and have brought our success rate up to 95%.”

“Thanks. Anyone else have anything to add?”

Meanwhile the guy who works on the desk across from me was sitting there dying.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:55:14pm

Evening Lizardim.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:56:20pm

re: #227 Kragar

“We’ve been able to scan multiple sites using the new procedures in accordance with the prophecy and have brought our success rate up to 95%.”

“Thanks. Anyone else have anything to add?”

Meanwhile the guy who works on the desk across from me was sitting their dying at his desk.

I would have been, too. I tend to not miss stuff like that. Unlike your coworker, though, I’d likely have said…HUH? Come again? before realizing you was yankin’ some chains.

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japa21  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:56:38pm

re: #215 sagehen

Totally agree. One of his main talking points is how successful a businessman he is. When the Dems show quite graphically how bad he is at business, that will chip away at his support.
Cruz and Rubio are focusing more on his business ethics, which most of his supporters couldn’t care less about.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 1:59:21pm
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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:00:22pm

re: #230 japa21

Totally agree. One of his main talking points is how successful a businessman he is. When the Dems show quite graphically how bad he is at business, that will chip away at his support.
Cruz and Rubio are focusing more on his business ethics, which most of his supporters couldn’t care less about.

I don’t do this often, but I’m praying to the gods of the universe that Trump’s reputation and businesses all wind up in the toilet never to rise again. That asshole deserves a major case of humbling..which I hope lasts for a decade if not the rest of his miserable life.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:01:06pm

re: #229 MsJ

Closest anyone ever got was:

“What was that?”

“The new scanning procedures?

“No…”

“We’re at 95%.”

“…okay.”

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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:01:45pm

re: #222 Kragar

Had a meeting like that where after 90 minutes of BS, one of the managers said we just needed to scrap a whole project and start from scratch. My co-worker thought he was on mute and sang out “CLUSTERFUCK!” across the line, but no one recognized his voice. There was a moment of silence, he slammed on mute, and went to OHFUCKOHFUCK mode.

The guy running the call just sighed, “yeah, sounds about right.”

This is why I am exceptionally paranoid about verifying the mute status of my phone, whether I’m intending on venting my frustrations or not. More often than not, the client gets tied up in the weeds somewhere until I just want to scream, and when I do, I want to make sure I don’t pull one of these. We tend to take a dim view of insulting, threatening, or otherwise abusing our clients.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:03:21pm

re: #234 thedopefishlives

We tend to take a dim view of insulting, threatening, or otherwise abusing our clients.

As do we, whenever there is the slightest chance they can hear us.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:04:42pm

re: #235 Kragar

As do we, whenever there is the slightest chance they can hear us.

Excellent qualification. I think I want to work with you. :-D

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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:05:41pm

re: #235 Kragar

As do we, whenever there is the slightest chance they can hear us.

There is that. What goes on behind closed doors, well, that’s a whole different story.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:13:02pm

re: #232 MsJ

I don’t do this often, but I’m praying to the gods of the universe that Trump’s reputation and businesses all wind up in the toilet never to rise again. That asshole deserves a major case of humbling..which I hope lasts for a decade if not the rest of his miserable life.

We can only hope so. I’ve always thought he was an obnoxious asshole. Cannot believe that a good chunk of our country looks at him and thinks he should be President.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:17:05pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:18:01pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lame duck, my ass.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:22:18pm

NRSC is currently taking a verbal beating on their Facebook page, thanks to Jim Wright’s link. Go join in if you’re so inclined, I did.

(Edited link to remove Reagan pic. I couldn’t stand to look at it. The link above goes to the post.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:25:39pm

re: #241 makeitstop

NRSC is currently taking a verbal beating on their Facebook page, thanks to Jim Wright’s link. Go join in if you’re so inclined, I did.

[Embedded content]

God can they get the fuck off of Reagan’s corpse for once? And for all Reagan’s talk of the Soviet Union being an evil empire, he was perfectly fine with right wing dictatorships that were just as vile as the Soviet Union were.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:36:40pm
 shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint … Judges of the supreme Court

If the Senate doesn’t want to give advice and consent, by refusing to even start the nomination proceedings, they’re going against the constitution and they’re simply giving up their advice&consent capacity, so Obama should just ignore them and appoint after nominating ;)

Yes, I know this is not how it works. It should work this way though.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:38:24pm

re: #215 sagehen

His net worth is the appreciated value of properties he inherited. That’s it. That’s all his wealth. It says *nothing* about his business skills. His business skills are crap.

Jay-Z and Diddy are far better businessmen than Donald Trump. Unlike him, they’re self-made. And unlike Trump, their liquor and clothing lines and colognes and other ancillary endeavors are successful.

Even Paris Hilton is a better business person than Drumpf.
quora.com

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:40:03pm

A fraud and a bully.

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:43:23pm

re: #240 thedopefishlives

Lame duck, my ass.

Out-of-Fucks Duck :)

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TedStriker  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:43:50pm

re: #160 MsJ

GAH!!

A $34,995 mentorship program was worth “nothing,” one participant said.
Boyce Chait, 84, and his wife Evelyn, 80, who live in New Jersey, demanded but were refused a refund after their $34,995 mentorship proved, Boyce told Brill, “to be worth nothing. When it came to the nitty-gritty, there was nothing there.” (Nonetheless, Boyce told Brill he and his wife would still “vote for Trump over Hillary Clinton,” because they said they are members of the Tea Party.)

Some people deserve to get ripped off/taken by con men like Trump, because they’re just that fucking willfully stupid.

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Snarknado!  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:50:46pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

In the original Dahl book, the Oompa Loompas were from an African tribe that Wonka captured and enslaved.

I shit you not.

Actually, they lived in tree houses to get away from the animals that preyed on them, and had to live on green caterpillars. Wonka offered them a home in his factory and all the chocolate they could eat, and since they love cacao more than all other things, they were happy with the deal.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:57:53pm

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

I sent in my ballot early for Bernie, but if I was voting today I’d choose Hillary.

And for that what will be your self imposed punishment?

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wrenchwench  Mar 8, 2016 • 2:59:05pm

re: #248 Snarknado!

Actually, they lived in tree houses to get away from the animals that preyed on them, and had to live on green caterpillars. Wonka offered them a home in his factory and all the chocolate they could eat, and since they love cacao more than all other things, they were happy with the deal.

That’s always the version of the story told by the slaveholders.

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Bass Reeves  Mar 8, 2016 • 3:03:13pm

re: #248 Snarknado!

books.google.com

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A Cranky One  Mar 8, 2016 • 3:28:48pm

re: #85 MsJ

Exactly what I was talking about in my Open Letter. Do real Dems RT this? That guy did.

[Embedded content]

So Caitlin Jenner says about Hillary “She care about herself”.

This from a person with a reality show called “I am Cait”.

Republicans. Sigh.

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Shimshon  Mar 8, 2016 • 3:42:05pm

re: #4 makeitstop

Why is it that ex-hippies who convert to conservatism become the most unhinged conservatives of all?

Like born again Christians, they think they have to try extra hard to fit into the club.

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A Cranky One  Mar 8, 2016 • 3:51:11pm

re: #227 Kragar

“We’ve been able to scan multiple sites using the new procedures in accordance with the prophecy and have brought our success rate up to 95%.”

“Thanks. Anyone else have anything to add?”

Meanwhile the guy who works on the desk across from me was sitting there dying.

I once gave a presentation to a large group of high level managers and directors. During the talk, projected a screen that said “He’s lying”. Took over 5 minutes for someone to notice.

Got called into my local director’s office; needless to say I was a tad nervous. Was told I was doing such an outstanding job that they were giving me a special raise. Handed me a folded piece of paper with the financial information. Opened the paper and inside it said “She’s lying”. Ha.

Then she put in in charge of running that meeting. Sigh.


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