A Landslide for Hillary Clinton in Mississippi

Sanders campaign loses big
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A complete blowout for Hillary Clinton in Mississippi tonight, and here’s an open thread to live-blog the results of the primaries tonight. As I write, it’s still way too early to call the Michigan primary, and in Mississippi the Republican race is still very close as well.

Some amazing results for Clinton:

UPDATE at 3/8/16 5:39:41 pm by Charles Johnson

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470 comments
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:22:27pm

Trump pulls ahead in MI… but Rubio is below 8% in the early counting…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:23:26pm

We’re going to need those kids. Let them down easy.

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:24:17pm

Sanders is ahead in MI, but something is very, very strange. The CNN and AP have the vote as 50,000 to 46,000 for him, but there’s not a tenth of that vote showing in CNN’s map by county.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:26:29pm

No real surprise there. I expect the same condescending crap I’ve seen the past month from people who insist they know what’s better for African-American voters.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:27:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:28:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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WTF were they thinking?

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:28:49pm
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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:29:24pm

MS goes to Trump per MSNBC

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:29:26pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:29:42pm

Bernie has an early lead in Michigan. I’m surprised, I thought it would be a blowout for Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:30:00pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Most definitely.

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:30:25pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie has an early lead in Michigan. I’m surprised, I thought it would be a blowout for Hillary.

Something is not right. There are 100,000 votes from nowhere in the statewide count.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:30:35pm

If Bernie wins in MI, 538 has some crow to eat.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:30:35pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie has an early lead in Michigan. I’m surprised, I thought it would be a blowout for Hillary.

Well it depends where those results are coming from. I don’t know about Michigan but our early results always come from the more rural and less populated areas.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:31:17pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie has an early lead in Michigan. I’m surprised, I thought it would be a blowout for Hillary.

Still could be

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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:31:25pm

The Sanders campaign is screwing this up more severely than I thought possible. I think it is well into the “damaging your own cause” territory by now.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:31:33pm

Nate thinks Michigan is a good bet to go Trump now given he now leads over Kasich in Oakland County.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:31:39pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie has an early lead in Michigan. I’m surprised, I thought it would be a blowout for Hillary.

It’s an early, but (from the sounds of it) narrow lead. The Sandbaggers will insist that any win is a win, but MI is proportional like all the other states in the Dem primaries, so he needs a big win to avoid adding to Hillary’s lead.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:31:43pm

This is from the Detroit News front page:
Sanders, Bernie Dem 60,857 51%
Clinton, Hillary Dem 56,522 48%

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:32:24pm

re: #19 The Vicious Babushka

This is from the Detroit News front page:
Sanders, Bernie Dem 60,857 51%
Clinton, Hillary Dem 56,522 48%

Those votes could be from The Ghetto.

//

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:32:36pm
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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:33:11pm

re: #21 jaunte

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A state so nice she won it twice

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:33:25pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

WTF were they thinking?

Probably some young creative type thought they were being clever.

It is not clever, it was really really dumb.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:33:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:33:56pm

Bernie supporters having been screaming voter fraud in Michigan on twitter all damned day.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:34:16pm

re: #23 ObserverArt

Probably some young creative type thought they were being clever.

It is not clever, it was really really dumb.

Yeah. It’s amazing how tone deaf this campaign has really been.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:34:32pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

The gap widens today in any case.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:34:40pm

Here is the Detroit Free Press

120,000 votes have been counted in Oakland County (north of Detroit) with 33% of precincts reporting.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:34:55pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie supporters having been screaming voter fraud in Michigan on twitter all damned day.

It’s always fraud if they’re losing but a triumph of the people over Wall Street if they’re winning.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:35:12pm

Good thing Mitt Romney stopped Trump dead in his tracks

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:35:15pm

Okay, that’s where the votes were hiding, in Oakland County. Still gotta say I’m unpleasantly surprised by this.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:35:31pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Trump also won 2 Mississippis.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:36:04pm

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie has an early lead in Michigan. I’m surprised, I thought it would be a blowout for Hillary.

Hopefully Detroit, Flint, Ann Arbor and Detroit numbers haven’t started to come in. I would think in those areas people might be voting late after work, etc.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:36:21pm

re: #27 Nyet

The gap widens today in any case.

It’s ‘08 all over again, with emoprogs and dudebros wanting only to count states won and not the delegate count.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:36:23pm

re: #30 b.d.

Good thing Mitt Romney stopped Trump dead in his tracks

Mitt sure showed Trump in one of the fifty states he considers a home state.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:36:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:36:46pm
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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:36:49pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Hopefully Detroit, Flint, Ann Arbor and Detroit numbers haven’t started to come in. I would think in those areas people might be voting late after work, etc.

Flint ran out of Dem ballots for two hours today.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:37:06pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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Ouch. That’s a new low for Rubio.

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Tigger2  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:37:12pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Hopefully Detroit, Flint, Ann Arbor and Detroit numbers haven’t started to come in. I would think in those areas people might be voting late after work, etc.

Some polls don’t even close until 9:00

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:37:34pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

Come March 15 it will be all over but the whinging.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:38:01pm

re: #38 MsJ

Flint ran out of Dem ballots for two hours today.

Bernie blaming the lead water on Wall Street must have really fired them up.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:38:05pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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So when does Marco come out to celebrate his fifth place victory?

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:38:21pm

re: #41 Nyet

Come March 15 it will be all over but the whinging.

And there will be much of that

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:38:27pm

So we all remember groaning over the possibility of Clinton V Bush again. We all were hoping that was not the election we would get. Well we got our wish. I feel an abject absence of any sense of relief at all. Note to myself-be more damn careful what I wish against. Just me or?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:38:46pm

re: #41 Nyet

Come March 15 it will be all over but the whinging.

I’m going to be interested in hearing why Bernie losing Florida and Ohio- by the way the very sates that Gore and Kerry lost their elections by are irrelevant.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:38:54pm

re: #40 Tigger2

Some polls don’t even close until 9:00

Those are the westernmost counties in the UP. Everywhere else in Michigan is on Eastern Time (because Henry Ford).

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:39:15pm

re: #45 Great White Snark

We all were hoping that was not the election we would get.

Speak for yourself. //

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:40:21pm

Oops.I mentioned Detroit twice in my last comment. It is not Chicago!

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:40:49pm

At this point, I might have actually enjoyed a Bush v Clinton general election, considering how easy it was for Trump to regularly pants Jeb? in the debates. Hillary would have ripped his heart out on stage and showed it to him in the first debate.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:40:54pm

They’re going to be up late counting the ballots. Hillary and Bernie are neck and neck.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:41:21pm

Get ready for a whole lot of football-spiking from Chuck C. Johnson. He’s probably already writing the post taking credit for Rubio losing.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:41:30pm

re: #49 ObserverArt

Oops.I mentioned Detroit twice in my last comment. It is not Chicago!

Everything is double in this thread.
Everything is double in this thread.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:41:36pm

I didn’t want Bush versus Clinton either and I wasn’t particularly excited about Clinton and to some degree I am still not but Bernie hasn’t convinced me he’s presidential material.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:41:59pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Get ready for a whole lot of football-spiking from Chuck C. Johnson. He’s probably already writing the post taking credit for Rubio losing.

That’s the worst part of Rubio losing. I can take it.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:42:55pm

Hilary V Clinton without any primary vote at all from the most populous state in the union. California’s primary is either merely a clerical checkbox or a worthless fiction. Or both. :-(

re: #48 Nyet

Speak for yourself. //

Haha! Foreign friends & company excepted of course. Got a text from an Australian friend. He said he wanted to comment on the election but can’t stop laughing long enough to speak the words.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:42:55pm

So, does anybody remember why we were so scared about Rubio?

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:42:58pm

In the other party, Trump’s now 9 points up on Kasich.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:43:24pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

So, does anybody remember why we were so scared about Rubio?

That was before the bottle.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:43:33pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

I didn’t want Bush versus Clinton either and I wasn’t particularly excited about Clinton and to some degree I am still not but Bernie hasn’t convinced me he’s presidential material.

Quite the contrary, Bernie has convinced me he’s not presidential material.

Then I look at the other side.

And I’d vote Bernie in a NY minute.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:43:45pm
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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:44:50pm

re: #60 MsJ

Quite the contrary, Bernie has convinced me he’s not presidential material.

Then I look at the other side.

And I’d vote Bernie in a NY minute.

Hear, hear!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:44:53pm

re: #60 MsJ

Quite the contrary, Bernie has convinced me he’s not presidential material.

Then I look at the other side.

And I’d vote Bernie in a NY minute.

Well the burden was on him to convince me he was. I mean I like the ideas but not sure. And yeah of course I’d vote for Bernie over any GOP candidate running. And Rubio is claiming that Clinton is scared of him. Whatever Mr. 2 for 22 in primaries and caucuses. Actually win something for a change and then we’ll believe that people are scared of you.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:45:13pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

So, does anybody remember why we were so scared about Rubio?

Because he is Dark_Falcon’s fav???

/ smile!

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:45:22pm

For all the stuff I say about Bernie, he’s like an angel compared to Cruz or Trump.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:45:40pm

Ouch:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:46:34pm
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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:46:38pm

And frankly, most of the negative feels I have are about BernieBros, not about the man himself.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:46:48pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

So, does anybody remember why we were so scared about Rubio?

We’re scared of all of them. I think Rubio might have been the most electable, which, well, that ain’t sayin’ much.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:47:11pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

So, does anybody remember why we were so scared about Rubio?

Ha yeah that was good times. Honestly, the more Rubio performs badly in the primaries, the more he looks like Perry but with more party money behind him.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:47:14pm

Talking head on CBS sez about the “angry” voters going for Trump who are self declared to be “evangelical” but not going for preacher son Cruz:

“… it’s not about religion… it’s about Muslims… “

Um…

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:47:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:48:26pm

re: #72 bratwurst

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That can be his show when he leaves the Senate in disgrace and he can tell all the viewers how he had a worse day than they did.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:48:27pm

re: #72 bratwurst

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At what point does it become ‘Marco who?’

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:48:37pm

re: #72 bratwurst

The Passion of the Marco

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:48:44pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:48:56pm

I did not expect Michigan to be such a nail biter. I really honestly thought my vote for Bernie was a last hurrah.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:49:02pm

re: #68 Nyet

And frankly, most of the negative feels I have are about BernieBros, not about the man himself.

Bernie himself earned my dislike. BernieBros were the icing. And the filling. And the plate.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:49:15pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

I did not expect Michigan to be such a nail biter. I really honestly thought my vote for Bernie was a last hurrah.

I BLAME YOU! /

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danarchy  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:49:49pm

re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White

At what point does it become ‘Marco who?’

After he loses florida.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:49:58pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah they don’t need the votes of the most reliable part of the Democratic base anyway!

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:50:12pm

re: #68 Nyet

And frankly, most of the negative feels I have are about BernieBros, not about the man himself.

He does tend to feed them.

I posted this in the previous thread right about the time this one started…

By the way, Columbus is full of Bernie commercials. I heard a Bernie radio commercial on local ESPN station 97.1 The Fan at lunchtime while I was making lunch.

It was all about Wall Street being the cause of everything bad. He said something like “We will take on Wall Street and break up the banks and tax them. Will that make them mad…you bet it will, but I don’t care” like making them mad and breaking them up is going to get the Republicans scared and they will go along with any plan Bernie has to change banking.

As far as taxing, I guess he is tying Wall Street Bankers into his plan and making them pay is raising Wall Street’s taxes. From what the people looking into Bernie’s plans say he will be taxing the middle class fairly heavily. I guess he is thinking what everyone will pay in taxes will come back in savings in healthcare, better banking investment and interest on accounts and a more secure social security. I’d like to see that explained further.

However, I think he needs to make that clearer to the average middle class American. I don’t know how well they will take a surprise in higher personal taxes when he is constantly selling everyone on Wall Street being the big problem.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:50:14pm

Welp

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:50:19pm

re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White

At what point does it become ‘Marco who?’

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:50:20pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is not really a good look. At all.

It’s the decisions like this that make me upset and skeptical about his suitability as a candidate.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:50:39pm

538:

HARRY ENTEN 8:27 PM
Meanwhile on the Democratic side in Michigan, we have very little of the vote reporting from Wayne County (Detroit). Wayne is home to a lot of African-American voters, so don’t read too much into the early returns until more of Wayne reports.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:51:11pm

re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White

At what point does it become ‘Marco who?’

Marco who?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:51:18pm

re: #85 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is not really a good look. At all.

It’s the decisions like this that make me upset and skeptical about his suitability as a candidate.

Correct, it’s why I’ve been saying that Clinton is the one who comes off more inclusive than he does.

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Tigger2  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:51:29pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

I did not expect Michigan to be such a nail biter. I really honestly thought my vote for Bernie was a last hurrah.

Saw this posted in the comments at 538 a min ago. Don’t know how true it is.

Still 0% votes in from Wayne County (Detroit). HRC only 2 points down now

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:52:42pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

I did not expect Michigan to be such a nail biter. I really honestly thought my vote for Bernie was a last hurrah.

So, it’s all your fault!

: )

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:52:46pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

A Vermont native, Weaver worked for Sanders as a legislative assistant while Sanders was in the U.S. House. Weaver was campaign manager for Sanders’ 2006 Senate campaign and, subsequently, became his chief of staff.

In 2010, Weaver left Sanders’ office and started a comic book store in Falls Church, Virginia, called Victory Comics.

Weaver rejoined Sanders to manage his 2016 presidential campaign, but still remained active with Victory Comics. When Mother Jones wrote that “building a coalition that can win a delegate contest might require some kind of superhuman effort” for the campaign, Weaver compared Sanders to Superman, telling the outlet “Truth, justice, and the American way—that’s Bernie. It’s also associated with Superman; I didn’t just come up with that.”
ballotpedia.org

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:52:46pm

re: #89 Tigger2

Saw this posted in the comments at 539 a min ago. Don’t know how true it is.

Still 0% votes in from Wayne County (Detroit). HRC only 2 points down now

Dearborn is also in Wayne County

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:52:48pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

Marco who?

So, right about….n-n-n-now!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:53:04pm

I don’t think Bernie is a bad guy at all by the way but he has had some things that make me question his judgment and his political street smarts.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:53:27pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

I did not expect Michigan to be such a nail biter. I really honestly thought my vote for Bernie was a last hurrah.

Pray to god that he doesn’t win by 1.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:53:49pm

Michigan is proportional, correct? If so, Bernie’s win in the great lake state does little to gain on Hillary Clinton. Time for Bernie to “postpone” his candidacy.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:54:03pm

Is it just me… or are the women on CBS News on average about 10-15 years older than the Fox babes on Faux News?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:54:15pm

re: #96 Dr. Matt

Michigan is proportional, correct? If so, Bernie’s win in the great lake state does little to gain on Hillary Clinton. Time for Bernie to “postpone” his candidacy.

I don’t think he’s going to win. No votes from Wayne County yet.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:54:27pm

re: #89 Tigger2

If he loses, there will be “it was not supposed to be that close! a gigantic win for Bernie!”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:54:33pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:54:43pm

re: #95 Decatur Deb

Pray to god that he doesn’t win by 1.

I will take the blame :(

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:54:47pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s ‘08 all over again. “Yeah, we’re down in the delegate count and about to get beaten badly next Tuesday, but we can still come back! Don’t abandon us just yet!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:01pm

re: #97 freetoken

Is it just me… or are the women on CBS News on average about 10-15 years older than the Fox babes on Faux News?

Well the women on CBS aren’t used to give a stiffy to the old farts who like hearing Rush Limbaugh’s views espoused by a woman old enough to be their granddaughter .

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:23pm

The Sanders campaign is completely, embarrassingly tone deaf about racial issues.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:24pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

I will take the blame :(

To be fair, he didn’t start with some of the really obnoxious stuff until after you mailed off your ballot.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:38pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

I don’t think Bernie is a bad guy at all by the way but he has had some things that make me question his judgment and his political street smarts.

There’s that.

But between a flawed guy with sometimes bad judgment and hell spawn I’ll choose the guy.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:38pm
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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:41pm

CNN’s results just disappeared. Oh, now they’re back. This still just seems so off to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:57pm

In ‘08 Obama’s name was not even on the ballot in Michigan. I remember voters being angry & poll workers instructing them on how to do a write-in.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:55:57pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

I will take the blame :(

“Is starting World War III, and is blaming you.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:56:15pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

It’s ‘08 all over again. “Yeah, we’re down in the delegate count and about to get beaten badly next Tuesday, but we can still come back! Don’t abandon us just yet!”

They’re using the 2008 map alot on Facebook and ignoring that Clinton is winning a lot of the same states that Obama did but few outside NH that she won in 08. You said it from the start TP, Benrie’s appeal is very limited. It would make him a bad GE candidate.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:56:18pm

re: #96 Dr. Matt

Michigan is proportional, correct? If so, Bernie’s win in the great lake state does little to gain on Hillary Clinton. Time for Bernie to “postpone” his candidacy.

It would be purely symbolic. Unfortunately symbols matter more to some than math.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:56:40pm

re: #99 Nyet

If he loses, there will be “it was not supposed to be that close! a gigantic win for Bernie!”

Ayep, the Sandbaggers will insist that cutting her down from a blowout to a close victory is instead a “win” for Bernie. Sort of like a crippling injury is a “win” when the alternative was death.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:56:49pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

The Sanders campaign is completely, embarrassingly tone deaf about racial issues.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:57:00pm

re: #106 Nyet

There’s that.

But between a flawed guy with sometimes bad judgment and hell spawn I’ll choose the guy.

Oh shit yeah. I mean the Republican candidates are dangerous assholes. My worries with Bernie are that he may not be as effective a President as he could be.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:57:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:57:25pm

re: #114 jaunte

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Great point.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:57:30pm

Pontiac is in Oakland County.

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stpaulbear  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:58:11pm

re: #64 ObserverArt

Because he is Dark_Falcon’s fav???

/ smile!

David Brooks has an editorial titled ‘It’s not too late!’ in the NYT today begging the party to support Rubio - at least that’s the takeaway I got from scanning it. The only reason I clicked on it was to read the ‘Reader’s Choice’ comments tearing Brooks to shreds. They did a great job.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:58:13pm

And this guy is winning the GOP primary. (insert ear stinging expletive)

Donald Trump Rallies: Crack Down on Protesters

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:58:27pm

re: #109 The Vicious Babushka

MI and FL completely fucked up in ‘08.

And one of the reasons I disliked Hillary in ‘08 is that she insisted on using those flawed and unfair voting results.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:59:00pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I don’t think he’s going to win. No votes from Wayne County yet.

Looks like Bernie has the early lead in Wayne (less than 5% of the vote in). But Hillary has Macomb and Oakland in early returns.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:59:02pm

The Michigan primary hinges on Wayne County, and there aren’t enough votes in yet to call it.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:59:17pm

re: #96 Dr. Matt

Michigan is proportional, correct? If so, Bernie’s win in the great lake state does little to gain on Hillary Clinton. Time for Bernie to “postpone” his candidacy.

Dem primaries and caucuses are always proportional. The only all or nothing contests take place on the GOP side, and only after March 15th.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 5:59:44pm

re: #122 Dr. Matt

Looks like Bernie has the early lead in Wayne (less 5% of the vote in). But Hillary has Macomb and Oakland in early returns.

Ah okay. Well we’ll see what happens. I think she ends up with a fairly convincing win in Michigan by the end of the night.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:00:05pm

It’ll be interesting to see what happens in Washtenaw County-right now it’s tipping heavily in Bernie’s favor.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:00:07pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Oh shit yeah. I mean the Republican candidates are dangerous assholes. My worries with Bernie are that he may not be as effective a President as he could be.

I also think there’s a pragmatic side to him that he hides behind the lofty promises.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:00:33pm

Trumps win Michigan per MSNBC

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:01:53pm

DAMN!

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:01:54pm

Exit poll says Sanders ahead? WTF happened?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:02:07pm

My father registred as a republican for the first time in his life just to vote for Trump in Michigan just to fuck with the race. Bravo, pops. Mission Accomplished.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:02:19pm

So, let’s say it’s going to be Hillary v Trump. What do you think GOP Super PACs will do? (Other than the Koch funded ones.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:02:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:02:57pm

re: #127 Nyet

I also think there’s a pragmatic side to him that he hides behind the lofty promises.

Sure. I do have another problem though, I think he needs to understand the complexity of societal problems. Not that income inequality isn’t a problem we face as a nation but that there are other issues faced by women, racial minorities, LGBT people, etc regardless of their socio-economic status.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:03:01pm

re: #132 MsJ

So, let’s say it’s going to be Hillary v Trump. What do you think GOP Super PACs will do? (Other than the Koch funded ones.)

Pack a lot of baggage.

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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:03:21pm

Charles Johnson,

Not the biggest Hillary supporter, but I still want to congratulate her on her victory. I would prefer Bernie Sanders be our next president, but either one of them would be much better than any of Republican candidates, especially Trump.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:03:40pm

“His political profile is a slightly enlarged Rick Santorum but without the heart.”

~ David Brooks on Cruz.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:03:41pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:03:44pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

I did not expect Michigan to be such a nail biter. I really honestly thought my vote for Bernie was a last hurrah.

YOUR FAULT!
/:P

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:04:14pm

re: #129 b.d.

DAMN!

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That’s bad. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a Democratic candidate with this much staying power that struggles so much with African-Americans.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:04:28pm

re: #137 Nyet

“His political profile is a slightly enlarged Rick Santorum but without the heart.”

~ David Brooks on Cruz.

Santorum has a heart?

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:04:36pm

I bet Trump Water gets the contract at the FEMA camps

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:05:05pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:05:08pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

I will take the blame :(

Ah, we’re just pulling chains here.
:)

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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:05:30pm

Ugh. And already, I’m getting posts about Obama not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral. My God, you stupid fucks, get it through your head. That’s not how this works.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:05:40pm

Grand Traverse County is in the Bernie camp-surprising.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:06:04pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

I will take the blame :(

Vicious Bernbushka

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:06:08pm

re: #127 Nyet

I also think there’s a pragmatic side to him that he hides behind the lofty promises.

Isn’t that another way of saying he’s fucking lying to everyone?

(That really pisses me off. I know they all do it but it’s such a turn off to me. Not being able to do something, compromise, fine. But what Bernie is selling is fairy farts. If he has that pragmatic side then he’s just full of shit all the way around.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:06:09pm

re: #145 thedopefishlives

Ugh. And already, I’m getting posts about Obama not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral. My God, you stupid fucks, get it through your head. That’s not how this works.

I don’t think Ronnie himself attended Bess Truman’s funeral.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:06:17pm

My WTF moment so far;
#MississippiBerning.

Wowzers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:07:03pm

re: #145 thedopefishlives

Ugh. And already, I’m getting posts about Obama not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral. My God, you stupid fucks, get it through your head. That’s not how this works.

Well, you know, if he had they’d be calling him a hypocrite, and yattering on about how classy Nancy was, with her Astrologer and all.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:07:04pm

Everyone + dog calling MI for Trump.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:07:10pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Santorum has a heart?

Probably five of them.

Like an earthworm.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:07:35pm

re: #151 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, you know, if he had they’d be calling him a hypocrite, and yattering on about how classy Nancy was, with her Astrologer and all.

Oh, I know. Obama, The President Who Could Do No Right.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:07:40pm

re: #153 Nyet

Probably five of them.

Like an earthworm.

Creepy visual.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:07:55pm

re: #144 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Ah, we’re just pulling chains here.
:)

No no, the penance is pie for all!

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:08:01pm

As I predicted, RWNJs are all pissy because Obama is not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral.

Fun fact: When St. Reagan was president and Bess Truman died, who went to the funeral?

Where’s Ronnie?
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:08:02pm

Networks are starting to call MI for Trump.

No surprise.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:08:16pm
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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:08:35pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Creepy visual.

Imagining an earthworm with a tiny little sweater vest.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:09:04pm

re: #157 makeitstop

As I predicted, RWNJs are all pissy because Obama is not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral.

Fun fact: When St. Reagan was president and Bess Truman died, who went to the funeral?

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I wondered about that.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:09:07pm

Whoa. This guy is a work friend for many years to both myself and my wife. He was the wrong guy to try and hurt today. A life lost is always a tragedy, but I’m happy for Tad and his family. I have no details other than the link.
dailybreeze.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:09:08pm
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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:09:18pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Get ready for a whole lot of football-spiking from Chuck C. Johnson. He’s probably already writing the post taking credit for Rubio losing.

Just imagine how insanely enraged Chucky will be if one of the Democratic nominees makes it to the white house this year, especially Hillary.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:09:19pm

Evening Lizards. Idaho hasn’t yet posted returns for the rethugs. The Dem Caucus isn’t until the 22nd.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:09:40pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

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Proving to me that the RR’s talk for years about morality is a big fat sham.

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ipsos  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:09:48pm

So I’m arguing with someone on FB about what the custom is WRT presidents attending first ladies’ funerals.

Here’s a Fun Fact: the one former FLOTUS to die during the Reagan administration was Bess Truman, in 1982.

President Reagan did not attend her funeral.

Go ahead and use that fact to blast some wingnut minds, if you’d like.

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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:10:31pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

Bernie would have to win remaining states with far more than 60% of the delegates so as to make up the deficit against Hillary.

That’s just not going to happen. It was over Super Tuesday. It was over after this past weekend. It’s over after tonight.

Bernie’s toast - and it’s not just superdelegates. It’s a numbers game, and Bernie is not going to catch up.

Put another way, Hillary keeps winning states, and Bernie may win a few ones, but can’t close the gap.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:10:44pm

Decision Desk calls MI for Clinton while showing her trailing. Sad!

decisiondeskhq.com

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The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:10:45pm

re: #137 Nyet

“His political profile is a slightly enlarged Rick Santorum but without the heart.”

~ David Brooks on Cruz.

Unfair. Ted Cruz has a heart!

I mean, we don’t know whose it is, but it is most definitely a human heart.

…with a bite take out of the left ventricle.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:10:56pm

This is what we are up against, folks:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:11:59pm

re: #170 Nyet

Decision Desk calls MI for Clinton while showing her trailing. Sad!

decisiondeskhq.com

They’re going to freak out about that.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:12:04pm

re: #165 CriticalDragon1177

Just imagine how insanely enraged Chucky will be if one of the Democratic nominees makes it to the white house this year, especially Hillary.

There’s a reason we call him the Rage Furby.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:12:13pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

They’re going to freak out about that.

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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:12:26pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Sorry I have to disagree.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:12:35pm
HARRY ENTEN 9:09 PM
These are the election nights I dread. Trump has won Michigan and Mississippi, and it was an easy call. Clinton crushed Sanders in Mississippi and is well-positioned in Michigan, where Detroit and Flint have yet to report. Fortunately, we still have a fight on our hands for second place on the Republican side in Michigan, and Idaho and Hawaii haven’t even started counting the votes yet.
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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:12:43pm

re: #157 makeitstop

As I predicted, RWNJs are all pissy because Obama is not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral.

Fun fact: When St. Reagan was president and Bess Truman died, who went to the funeral?

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Forget the fact that all of Wingnutland would throw a fit if Obama did attend her funeral

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:12:47pm

video of Chris spouting that nonsense:

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:13:09pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

That can be his show when he leaves the Senate in disgrace and he can tell all the viewers how he had a worse day than they did.

Good point because I’m wondering what Rubio is going to do with himself after he drops out of this race. **shrugs**

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:13:28pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

I wondered about that.

Even better - that day, Ronnie went to a Republican party rally!

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:13:33pm

Trump speaks…

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:13:51pm

I still just don’t get it. Hillary had a 20-point average lead in the polls, and nearly everyone agreed on that. How did it slip away? Unless the NRA endorsement really did help Sanders?

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:13:56pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:14:39pm
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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:14:56pm

re: #180 Patricia Kayden

Good point because I’m wondering what Rubio is going to do with himself after he drops out of this race. **shrugs**

K Street, baby.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:14:56pm

re: #183 Brian J.

I still just don’t get it. Hillary had a 20-point average lead in the polls, and nearly everyone agreed on that. How did it slip away? Unless the NRA endorsement really did help Sanders?

Well, sometimes polls just suck.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:14:57pm

re: #180 Patricia Kayden

Good point because I’m wondering what Rubio is going to do with himself after he drops out of this race. **shrugs**

That’s a good question. If he loses Florida, what does that mean if he tries to get in it again in 2018 and you know there will be the assumption that he’ll just use the office as a launching pad for 2020. I’d never pronounce a career dead but Rubio’s is going down the shitter.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:15:24pm

re: #187 Nyet

Well, sometimes polls just suck.

And people change their minds.
Such is the way of things.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:15:38pm

re: #163 Great White Snark

Whoa. This guy is a work friend for many years to both myself and my wife. He was the wrong guy to try and hurt today. A life lost is always a tragedy, but I’m happy for Tad and his family. I have no details other than the link.
dailybreeze.com

Bummer.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:15:44pm

re: #161 No Depression

Awesome!

Missouri Democrats Have Been Filibustering a Discriminatory Anti-Gay Bill for 20 Hours

Hopefully Republicans will back down with their pro-discrimination bills.

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:15:46pm

re: #187 Nyet

Well, sometimes polls just suck.

I need a better answer than that! Otherwise, we’re gonna have Sanders biting Hillary’s heels all the way to the convention.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:15:48pm

Mission Accomplished Mittens!

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CarolJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:16:23pm

It never occurs to the critics of Obama not going to some funerals is that the family may want to cry and reminince without cameras in their faces. Wherever a President goes, so does the press, especially the television press. Without him/her, the ordinary press stays outside and just takes pictures of the people leaving the church. People can quietly come in and out, feel freer to sit around and talk, whatever.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:16:36pm

We’ve kept our Comcast cable deal even as rates have nearly doubled basically as comfort and to watch international soccer. But I cannot stand to watch one more minute of politics on TV. We’ve long needed to reduce our budget. Time to jettison. I hope we can stream premier league.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:16:36pm

re: #189 Not a Sparkly Vampire

And people change their minds.
Such is the way of things.

To hell with that! If the results don’t match the polls whose results I like, there must be FRAUD!!!!

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:16:47pm

re: #192 Brian J.

I need a better answer than that! Otherwise, we’re gonna have Sanders biting Hillary’s heels all the way to the convention.

Wait till Nate makes an autopsy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:16:57pm

re: #194 CarolJ

It never occurs to the critics of Obama not going to some funerals is that the family may want to cry and reminince without cameras in their faces. Wherever a President goes, so does the press, especially the television press. Without him/her, the ordinary press stays outside and just takes pictures of the people leaving the church. People can quietly come in and out, feel freer to sit around and talk, whatever.

That was exactly my point about the Scalia funeral.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:17:21pm

re: #197 Nyet

Wait till Nate makes an autopsy.

Or maybe we wait until all the results are in for the state first and we can see exactly how far off the polls were.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:17:47pm

re: #199 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Or maybe we wait until all the results are in for the state first and we can see exactly how far off the polls were.

NO!
DEWEY WINS!

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:18:06pm

re: #199 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Watching “live” at The Guardian.

theguardian.com

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:18:59pm

I wonder how many pollsters are looking at the Michigan Dem results and screaming “WTF IS GOING ON???”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:18:59pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

That was exactly my point about the Scalia funeral.

And the damnedest thing is, the wingnuts don’t even want him to attend. They just want another outrage by the most outrageously outrageous President in all of outrage history.

I think without an outrage every day their blood just clots in their veins and they die.

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:19:04pm

re: #201 Nyet

Watching “live” at The Guardian.

theguardian.com

The little animated candidates are fun.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:19:23pm

re: #201 Nyet

Watching “live” at The Guardian.

theguardian.com

I’m watching hockey. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:19:31pm

re: #199 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Or maybe we wait until all the results are in for the state first and we can see exactly how far off the polls were.

THAT’S CRAZY TALK!!!!!

//////

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:19:37pm

Then why hasn’t this happened anywhere else? Hillary was supposed to win Mississippi in a blowout, and she did. Iowa and Nevada were supposed to be close and they were.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:19:46pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

And the damnedest thing is, the wingnuts don’t even want him to attend. They just want another outrage by the most outrageously outrageous President in all of outrage history.

I think without an outrage every day their blood just clots in their veins and they die.

Exactly. If he were to attend, they’d say “He never respected Nancy and Ronnie anyhow how dare he intrude on their family’s grieving.”

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:19:47pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:19:48pm

re: #157 makeitstop

As I predicted, RWNJs are all pissy because Obama is not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral.

Fun fact: When St. Reagan was president and Bess Truman died, who went to the funeral?

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KNEEL AND SUCK THE GHOST COCK OF SAINT REAGAN, PEASANTS!!1

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:20:01pm

re: #205 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m watching hockey. :)

Curling, here.

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:20:07pm

I gotta say, the pushback on the Reagan funeral thing is pretty awesome on my Facebook feed. Lots of people pointing out that most presidents don’t go to first ladies’ funerals.

And the Bess Truman pic is showing up a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:20:21pm
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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:20:33pm

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

We’ve kept our Comcast cable deal even as rates have nearly doubled basically as comfort and to watch international soccer. But I cannot stand to watch one more minute of politics on TV. We’ve long needed to reduce our budget. Time to jettison. I hope we can stream premier league.

I feel your pain. I largely keep cable for sports in general, and soccer in particular.

Unfortunately, I have to inform you that you are going to be disappointed. Comcast has made it so cord cutters can not legally stream English Premiere League.

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gwangung  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:20:48pm

Actually, I wonder how much of the messaging from the Bernie Bros actually does stem from the top. Goldie Taylor was noting how many people were repeating the crap about Goldwater, and why do African Americans like the Clintons, and was suggesting that this was messaging from campaign central.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:04pm

re: #207 Brian J.

Then why hasn’t this happened anywhere else? Hillary was supposed to win Mississippi in a blowout, and she did. Iowa and Nevada were supposed to be close and they were.

Could be many things, really.
Out of date polls, last minute vote changes, etc.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:08pm

selling his water now…

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:11pm

In the state where things almost make sense, Bernie’s down to 15.5% of the statewide vote. Below 15%, no statewide delegates.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:22pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s early yet.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:28pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait. The worst has yet to come. Sorry, Donny.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:29pm

re: #194 CarolJ

I’m sure the people whining about President Obama not attending Mrs. Reagan’s funeral would criticize him if he attended. They hate him so no matter what he does, it’s wrong. Thankfully their opinion is just background noise and means nothing to anyone outside their bubble.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:30pm

So how does the R establishment make that pivot?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:36pm

re: #207 Brian J.

Then why hasn’t this happened anywhere else? Hillary was supposed to win Mississippi in a blowout, and she did. Iowa and Nevada were supposed to be close and they were.

Deep breath.

If these numbers are the same tomorrow, then you can freak out about them. When only 25% of the vote is reported …the proportions really don’t mean much right now.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:45pm

re: #157 makeitstop

As I predicted, RWNJs are all pissy because Obama is not attending Nancy Reagan’s funeral.

Fun fact: When St. Reagan was president and Bess Truman died, who went to the funeral?

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Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton will be attending the funeral. It’s a First Lady thing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:21:53pm

re: #212 makeitstop

I gotta say, the pushback on the Reagan funeral thing is pretty awesome on my Facebook feed. Lots of people pointing out that most presidents don’t go to first ladies’ funerals.

And the Bess Truman pic is showing up a lot.

That really was my first guess since Bess was the first lady of a President that had been President well before the president’s own presidency and was also of an opposite party. I’m glad to see the push back but for the Reagan worshpiers, it won’t matter even if Ronnie did not do the same thing himself. Hell I bet you can find examples for first ladies where no President of First Lady went. I doubt Grace Coolidge had anyone form the Eisenhower administration come to hers.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:22:21pm

selling steaks…

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:22:26pm

re: #207 Brian J.

IIRC, some earlier polls also were “skewed”, just in Bernie’s favor - he should have lost some states by a smaller margin. Since he lost anyway, nobody paid much attention, but a wrong poll is a wrong poll…

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:22:29pm

Trump is pimping his water, steaks, and magazine….in the image of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:22:34pm

We need chibi animated PotUS candidates.
Make it so!

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:22:48pm

re: #226 freetoken

selling steaks…

What could be more presidential?

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:22:51pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:22:55pm

re: #205 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m watching hockey. :)

Me too…the Jackets are ahead of those nasty Redwings 4 to 1. The Columbus police just escorted an overzealous Redwing fan out of the building. I guess he was getting a little mouthy and started some rumbling in the crowd.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:23:38pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because he’s usually the one making awful statements about other people. Loves to dish it out but can’t take any criticism. So Presidential.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:23:53pm

re: #231 jaunte

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Thinskinned egomaniacs don’t make great statesmen.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:24:25pm

re: #232 ObserverArt

Me too…the Jackets are ahead of those nasty Redwings 4 to 1. The Columbus police just escorted an overzealous Redwing fan out of the building. I guess he was getting a little mouthy and started some rumbling in the crowd.

I’ve heard interesting things about CBJ’s arena. Today I learned it’s the site of the only fan fatality in the NHL (a 13 year old girl hit in the head by a puck).

Are they wearing the alternates today? The alternate jerseys are sexy.

SJ is up in EDM, I’m following along on Twitter while finally trying to finish watching the STL game from like …two weeks ago. And writing.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:24:26pm

re: #226 freetoken

selling steaks…

And defending the University lawsuit. Sheesh!

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:24:51pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

Tad will be devastated. He is a kind man. And the robber probably had loved ones, killed in his desperation to take rather than make money. On the upside, family and friends will back Tad up. He really is regarded very well on Hill street where he comes to see his suppliers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:24:55pm

re: #131 Dr. Matt

My father registred as a republican for the first time in his life just to vote for Trump in Michigan just to fuck with the race. Bravo, pops. Mission Accomplished.

Michigan does not require party registration to vote in a primary. You are asked to choose one party ballot when you go to vote.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:25:12pm

re: #215 gwangung

Actually, I wonder how much of the messaging from the Bernie Bros actually does stem from the top. Goldie Taylor was noting how many people were repeating the crap about Goldwater, and why do African Americans like the Clintons, and was suggesting that this was messaging from campaign central.

If that’s the case, I’m even more disappointed. She was 17 when she supported Goldwater. All that Goldwater support means for me is that I probably wouldn’t want to be friends with 17 year old HRC but what it also shows me is that HRC is capable of intellectual growth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:25:22pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:25:56pm

Oh hey, RWC, since you are here: how hard is it to size rings down?

I’m seeing some effects of the weight loss and this is one I didn’t expect, since it includes my high school class ring.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:26:11pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Romney’s been through a lot”

Not as much as his dog.

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CarolJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:26:15pm

re: #212 makeitstop
And it’s not like Obama’s presence is going to do much. In both cases, Scalia and Reagan, these were well-loved people who lived a long life and died peacefully. Obama is not needed in his capacity to console a nation here. For personal regards, that’s what Michelle and Joe Biden are there for.

I expect Daddy Bush in the next few months or years. He’s been looking pretty frail lately. Carter has been spared so far, but he’s the same age as well. Soon the only ex-Presidents will be GW and Bill.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:26:32pm

Wayne County numbers are starting to come in now - Clinton has taken a 3200 vote lead with 18% counted.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:26:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:27:04pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:27:18pm

re: #147 b.d.

Vicious Bernbushka

If Bernie wins tonight I’m using that for my Twitter name.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:27:24pm

Hillary just took the lead in Wayne. She currently leads in the tri-country.

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:27:29pm

re: #246 goddamnedfrank

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Hey, that’s no way to talk about his wife!

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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:27:45pm

re: #225 HappyWarrior

That really was my first guess since Bess was the first lady of a President that had been President well before the president’s own presidency and was also of an opposite party. I’m glad to see the push back but for the Reagan worshpiers, it won’t matter even if Ronnie did not do the same thing himself. Hell I bet you can find examples for first ladies where no President of First Lady went. I doubt Grace Coolidge had anyone form the Eisenhower administration come to hers.

From what I’ve read, the only modern president to attend a FLOTUS funeral was Kennedy going to Eleanor Roosevelt’s funeral, and that was because the families were friends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:28:09pm
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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:28:21pm

Now I see the gap at the Guardian beginning to decrease somewhat. Good.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:28:24pm

John Tyler’s death barely registered much of an announcement in 1862. Of course, that was because he threw his lot in with the CSA and became a member of the CSA Congress.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:28:36pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Bernie is an independent taking advantage of the DNC. Honestly they should have never let him in.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:29:01pm

Miles Raymond: No, if anyone orders Rosé, I’m leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking Trump Rosé!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:29:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:29:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:29:16pm

re: #250 makeitstop

From what I’ve read, the only modern president to attend a FLOTUS funeral was Kennedy going to Eleanor Roosevelt’s funeral, and that was because the families were friends.

I think Bill attended Jackie’s and possibly W for Lady Bird and Mrs. Ford too.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:29:26pm
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KingKenrod  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:29:42pm

Well this sums it up

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:31:10pm

Silver:

I said earlier today that I had an intuition Sanders could beat his polling in Michigan tonight, but I didn’t expect things to be quite so close. If Sanders winds up winning in Michigan, in fact, it will count as among the greatest polling errors in primary history. Clinton led by 21.3 percentage points in our final Michigan polling average. Previously, the candidate with the largest lead to lose a state in our database of well-polled primaries and caucuses was Walter Mondale, who led in New Hampshire by 17.1 percentage points but lost to Gary Hart in 1984.

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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:31:26pm

re: #147 b.d.

Vicious Bernbushka

re: #247 The Vicious Babushka

If Bernie wins tonight I’m using that for my Twitter name.

That would be hilarious. On the other hand, If Hillary wins you could go with “Vicious HillBushka!”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:31:49pm

re: #214 bratwurst

I feel your pain. I largely keep cable for sports in general, and soccer in particular.

Unfortunately, I have to inform you that you are going to be disappointed. Comcast has made it so cord cutters can not legally stream English Premiere League.

Of course. That’s why I’m going to turn to their rivals…. //

Not sure what to do. I had a functioning 1992 Volvo that got hit—declared a total loss. I can’t buy a car with what I’m getting, but we have to be a two-car family because of the nature of where we live and kids’ activities. Looks like I’ll have to read about the matches and see highlights online. We don’t have many places we can cut.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:32:03pm

re: #230 bratwurst

What could be more presidential?

Selling bacon?

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:32:21pm

re: #235 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve heard interesting things about CBJ’s arena. Today I learned it’s the site of the only fan fatality in the NHL (a 13 year old girl hit in the head by a puck).

Are they wearing the alternates today? The alternate jerseys are sexy.

SJ is up in EDM, I’m following along on Twitter while finally trying to finish watching the STL game from like …two weeks ago. And writing.

No, they are in their regular dark blues.

The Brittanie Cecil death was a real shock. That also caused some problems for Nationwide Children’s Hospital too. They missed the neck injury initially and she died two days after the injury.

Here is the Wiki page explaining it all Link

Oh crap…the wings just scored two quick goals and the are three minutes to go.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:32:44pm

re: #241 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh hey, RWC, since you are here: how hard is it to size rings down?

I’m seeing some effects of the weight loss and this is one I didn’t expect, since it includes my high school class ring.

Thats pretty easy with gold or silver. There are also options like adding a gold spring to the inside of the ring . Another friend of mine offers an interesting option. Allows flex to get past the knuckle and tightens a bit on the finger.

callagold.com

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:33:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:33:14pm

Hillary is in Cleveland

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:33:35pm

re: #262 CriticalDragon1177

That would be hilarious. On the other hand, If Hillary wins you could go with “Vicious HillBushka!”

Then I will call myself “The Hillacious Babushka”

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:34:36pm
HARRY ENTEN 9:33 PM
I’m looking on the Wayne County clerk’s website to try to get an idea of where the vote is being reported from in Wayne County. It seems, at least as of earlier this hour, that Detroit was at 0 percent. The nearly uniformly white areas of Grosse Pointe Shores and Plymouth were at 100 percent. In other words, the percentages coming out of Wayne County right now don’t really reflect how black areas are voting.

fivethirtyeight.com

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:34:39pm

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is she trying to compete with Trump?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:34:48pm

With 20% of the vote, Hillary leads in Wayne 53%-46%

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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:35:06pm

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

Then I will call myself “The Hillacious Babushka”

That would also be a good one!

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Amory Blaine  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:35:16pm

Deadly infection outbreak in Wisconsin gaining urgency

Calling it the largest outbreak of its kind and stressing the urgency of finding the source, the CDC has identified two more suspected cases of deadly blood infections and sent additional investigators to Wisconsin.

“This is very much a real outbreak,” said Michael Bell, Deputy Director of the Division of Healthcare Quality Promotion for the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Investigators have not been able to find a medical product, single facility, food source or other means of exposure that could explain how dozens of people — mostly elderly residents of central and southeastern Wisconsin — have become ill from a bacterium named Elizabethkingia anophelis.

Isolated tests from the two suspected cases had not yet been confirmed and officials would not say whether the individuals were sickened or had died. As of Tuesday, the outbreak was tied to 44 confirmed cases, including 18 deaths.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:35:21pm

re: #270 b.d.

fivethirtyeight.com

With 0 in from Detroit, this is like counting Virginia without Fairfax County.

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Brian J.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:35:44pm

I’m sorry about this, but I am an accountant. Numbers are kind of how I make my living. I just don’t understand how the polls were so far off in MI. Even if there are no results from Detroit, there shouldn’t be a consistent Sanders edge elsewhere.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:35:51pm

re: #266 Great White Snark

Thats pretty easy with gold or silver. There are also options like adding a gold spring to the inside of the ring . Another friend of mine offers an interesting option. Allows flex to get past the knuckle and tightens a bit on the finger.

callagold.com
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My wedding and engagement rings are platinum, but fortunately also the least affected so far.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:36:07pm
NATE SILVER 9:34 PM
Michigan has open primaries, and it appears as though some voters who were interested in both races wound up voting on the GOP side. According to exit polls, 7 percent of Michigan Republican primary voters were Democrats; by contrast, 3 percent of voters in the Michigan Democratic primary were Republicans.

Could be a shot in the foot: a Hillary supporter sees Silver’s prediction of her winning comfortably, goes to fuck with wingnuts instead.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:36:52pm
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lawhawk  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:37:27pm

Let’s game out what happens if Bernie wins Michigan. Figure 51/48 split.

That’d mean that he still loses ground on the day, especially after the Mississippi blowout. Again.

Win the battle, but lose the war.

If Hillary wins, that means Bernie loses the battle and the war. Because he falls even further behind.

That’s the numbers game, and it still favors Hillary.

Meanwhile, Trump continues to show strength across demographic groups in the GOP and his opponents have no answer. Rubio somehow managed to lose to a guy who doesn’t even think that he’s still running.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:38:08pm

re: #276 Brian J.

I’m sorry about this, but I am an accountant. Numbers are kind of how I make my living. I just don’t understand how the polls were so far off in MI.

What polling methods are they using? A poll is only as good as the sampling method. If they’re cold-calling landlines, well, a lot of people don’t even have landlines any more, or they have caller ID and don’t take calls from unknown numbers.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:38:49pm

re: #280 lawhawk

Let’s game out what happens if Bernie wins Michigan. Figure 51/48 split.

That’d mean that he still loses ground on the day, especially after the Mississippi blowout. Again.

Win the battle, but lose the war.

If Hillary wins, that means Bernie loses the battle and the war. Because he falls even further behind.

That’s the numbers game, and it still favors Hillary.

Meanwhile, Trump continues to show strength across demographic groups in the GOP and his opponents have no answer. Rubio somehow managed to lose to a guy who doesn’t even think that he’s still running.

Bernie’s campaign seems to be a series of Pyrrhic victories. It comes from having a monolithic base IMO.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:39:40pm

Hillary is leading in Wayne (Detroit & Dearborn), Oakland (Pontiac), Macomb (Warren) and Genesee (Flint) but Bernie is ahead everywhere else.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:39:54pm
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gwangung  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:40:21pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

If that’s the case, I’m even more disappointed. She was 17 when she supported Goldwater. All that Goldwater support means for me is that I probably wouldn’t want to be friends with 17 HRC but what it also shows me is that HRC is capable of intellectual growth.

Lot of Sanders supporters defending the “Mississippi Berning” hashtag. And calling it the “uneducated South.”

Sorry, but that’s simply uncalled for.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:40:21pm

re: #276 Brian J.

I’m sorry about this, but I am an accountant. Numbers are kind of how I make my living. I just don’t understand how the polls were so far off in MI.

Trying to evaluate what went wrong at this very instant is like doing someone’s taxes before they’ve handed you all of their information.

You can, but it’s not going to be very helpful and it likely won’t give you the correct answer.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:40:37pm

re: #280 lawhawk

Just for some perspective: a Hillary loss is already frontloaded in the 538 calculations:

Hillary’s target to meet is 63
Bernie’s is 67

That is, if Bernie wins by the current margins (and he apparently won’t after the blacks’ votes come in), it is still “as it should have been”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:41:14pm

re: #285 gwangung

Lot of Sanders supporters defending the “Mississippi Berning” hashtag. And calling it the “uneducated South.”

Sorry, but that’s simply uncalled for.

Yeah fuck that especially with a heavy African-American electorate in those primaries.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:41:20pm

re: #278 Nyet

Could be a shot in the foot: a Hillary supporter sees Silver’s prediction of her winning comfortably, goes to fuck with wingnuts instead.

My exact thought. That’s why I’m opposed to playing primary games.

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Jenner7  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:41:39pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:41:41pm
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Ubiq  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:42:06pm

re: #96 Dr. Matt

Michigan is proportional, correct? If so, Bernie’s win in the great lake state does little to gain on Hillary Clinton. Time for Bernie to “postpone” his candidacy.

It’s proportional, but a Sanders win would (correctly) be viewed as momentum he desperately needs going into Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, NC and Florida next week.

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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:42:29pm

re: #285 gwangung

Lot of Sanders supporters defending the “Mississippi Berning” hashtag. And calling it the “uneducated South.”

Sorry, but that’s simply uncalled for.

These idiots are doing real damage at this rate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:42:34pm

re: #286 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Trying to evaluate what went wrong at this very instant is like doing someone’s taxes before they’ve handed you all of their information.

You can, but it’s not going to be very helpful and it likely won’t give you the correct answer.

I don’t know if it still does (since we now use an accountant) but TurboTax used to have a little window that kept a running total of your tax, which could really freak you right the fuck out after you’d entered your W2s and any capital gains, but hadn’t gotten to deductions yet…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:43:05pm

re: #293 EPR-radar

These idiots are doing real damage at this rate.

I really hope a lot of it is just dumb kids. Not that it makes it any better or excusable.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:43:27pm

re: #294 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know if it still does (since we now use an accountant) but TurboTax used to have a little window that kept a running total of your tax, which could really freak you right the fuck out after you’d entered your W2s and any capital gains, but hadn’t gotten to deductions yet…

Haha, we’re swapping back to doing our own this year and yeah, I remember that little window. Ooooo boy, do I remember that window.

Sometimes it didn’t go down as much as you’d like. :(

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:44:48pm

Even if they do split MI. She still won overwhelmingly in MS and before I get “Well we’re not going to win MS in a GE anyhow”, that didn’t stop Kansas which hasn’t gone Democratic in a Presidential election in a longer period from being trumped.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:45:37pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I really hope a lot of it is just dumb kids. Not that it makes it any better or excusable.

I still think that some are GOPers sowing discontent. Sowing and getting coattails because, as much as I hate to say it, a lot of people are assholes like Trump. And this election season, assholeness is encouraged.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:45:43pm

re: #296 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Haha, we’re swapping back to doing our own this year and yeah, I remember that little window. Ooooo boy, do I remember that window.

Sometimes it didn’t go down as much as you’d like. :(

The year that Roche bought Genentech, and all our stock options got cashed out, I underestimated our taxes by thousands of dollars. Luckily, we had that much and more, but talk about PANIC!!!!!

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:46:22pm

Damn…there is nothing so nerve racking in sports as the last two minutes in a tight hockey game. Detroit pulled their goalie to go 6 on 5 and it was a shot every couple seconds. Luckily the Columbus Blue Jackets defended well and got an empty goal score with 30 seconds to go to win 6 to 4 over the rival Detroit Redwings. Phew.

What’s real bad is Detroit is 3 hours up the road and their fans make it to the games. They are very vocal and cocky. But they do have history of being one of the best on their side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:46:30pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:47:23pm

Shit, Sanders just took the lead in Macomb…..my birthplace. Bastards.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:47:51pm

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

The year that Roche bought Genentech, and all our stock options got cashed out, I underestimated our taxes by thousands of dollars. Luckily, we had that much and more, but talk about PANIC!!!!!

In tech, in Silicon Valley, a non-trivial portion of the yearly income tends to get parceled out as bonus money.

This is INCREDIBLY frustrating when it comes to trying to make sure we avoid tax penalties.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:48:21pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:48:31pm

People just need to chill.
Have some coffee.
Blow up a planet or three.
Relax.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:48:52pm

re: #300 ObserverArt

Damn…there is nothing so nerve racking in sports as the last two minutes in a tight hockey game. Detroit pulled their goalie to go 6 on 5 and it was a shot every couple seconds. Luckily the Columbus Blue Jackets defended well and got an empty goal score with 30 seconds to go to win 6 to 4 over the rival Detroit Redwings. Phew.

What’s real bad is Detroit is 3 hours up the road and their fans make it to the games. They are very vocal and cocky. But they do have history of being one of the best on their side.

I had tickets to see DET play SJS this year.

When DET scored it sounded like they were the home team. Complete with bandwagon fans who didn’t bother to take the new stickers off their hats.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:01pm

re: #305 Not a Sparkly Vampire

People just need to chill.
Have some coffee.
Blow up a planet or three.
Relax.

Mercury always seemed useless and stupid ot me.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:05pm

My team is losing tonight. Again.

I haz a major sad.

Hubby is a curling widower.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:19pm

re: #300 ObserverArt

Tight hockey games are the most intense of the four major sports. Baseball is a close second, at least when the players know what they’re doing.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:34pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Mercury always seemed useless and stupid ot me.

That’s the spirit!

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majii  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:45pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

Yep, it was totally due to MSM hype. The MSM had crowned him the GOP/TP “Golden Child.”

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:47pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Mercury always seemed useless and stupid ot me.

Too bad we can’t blow up Pluto, it’s not even a planet.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:49pm

Just switched to MSNBC and Trump is on and all I am hearing is the same stupid shit he has said all along. I can’t take it. Back to hockey game wrap-up for my sanity.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:49:53pm

Hillary is way out front in Oakland, Wayne and Genesee but Bernie just nosed ahead in Macomb.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:50:02pm

re: #309 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Tight hockey games are the most intense of the four major sports. Baseball is a close second, at least when the players know what they’re doing.

I can’t believe people find baseball boring. One of the few sports that you can’t run the clock out in.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:50:35pm

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary is way out front in Oakland, Wayne and Genesee but Bernie just nosed ahead in Macomb.

Macomb is pretty working class white isn’t it? I’d actually think that’d be a place he’d do well in.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:51:10pm
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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:51:13pm

It’s relaxing to listen to Home and Garden TV while getting the political news from here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:51:27pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

I can’t believe people find baseball boring. One of the few sports that you can’t run the clock out in.

The absence of a clock is one of the things that makes it so mind-numbingly dull. And in sports where you CAN run out the clock, you can also fail to do so spectacularly.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:51:38pm

TRUMP IS STILL ON TV.
WHY.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:52:04pm

re: #320 Not a Sparkly Vampire

TRUMP IS STILL ON TV.
WHY.

Gives no room for anyone else.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:52:13pm
HARRY ENTEN 9:40 PM
As the vote count continues to come in from Michigan, Sanders is holding on to a 5 percentage point lead. This, of course, is not what the polls indicated would happen. Part of what’s going on, if the exit polls are to be believed, is that Sanders is losing black voters by only 32 percentage points. That’s not all of it, though. He’s also holding his own in the wealthier suburban counties around Detroit, such as Macomb and Oakland. In previous contests, Clinton did quite well with wealthier white voters. The question is what happens when more of Detroit and Flint report. Clinton needs big margins from there to win.
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:52:27pm

re: #319 Blind Frog Belly White

The absence of a clock is one of the things that makes it so mind-numbingly dull. And in sports where you CAN run out the clock, you can also fail to do so spectacularly.

There is no guaranteed end point you are just held hostage to the pointlessness of it all whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

Ahem.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:52:27pm

re: #319 Blind Frog Belly White

The absence of a clock is one of the things that makes it so mind-numbingly dull. And in sports where you CAN run out the clock, you can also fail to do so spectacularly.

Bah to hell with that. That is true though about other sports and clocks.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:53:00pm

Note that as long as Trump speaks, the networks will cover him. Regardless of Hillary speaking or not.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:53:31pm

50% in and Bernie is up by 25,000 votes in MI

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:53:32pm
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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:53:45pm

re: #320 Not a Sparkly Vampire

TRUMP IS STILL ON TV.
WHY.

Because one, last I checked, he’s still the Republican front runner, and two, he says incredibly outrageous and outlandish things.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:53:54pm

re: #317 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ‎@Green_Footballs

Please, @MSNBC. I’m begging you. That’s ENOUGH TRUMP. Stop it now.

9:49 PM - 8 Mar 2016

Can’t be said enough. They roll in Trump stink like a dog.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:54:13pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

During the playoffs, in the late innings, when the batter is making the pitcher throw strikes or foul off pitches, the catcher is trying to outguess the batter, the pitcher is tired or the reliever is nervous, every moment is thick with anticipation. The entire year is on the line, they’ve been playing every single day since February and if they lose, the whole year goes down the drain and they have to start all over again.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:54:33pm

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Macomb is pretty working class white isn’t it? I’d actually think that’d be a place he’d do well in.

Warren is where GM tech center is located. It used to be solid working class white but a lot of immigrants are there now (Hispanic, Arab, South Asian)

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CriticalDragon1177  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:54:54pm

re: #327 Stanley Sea

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:54:56pm

The slow pace of baseball is one of the reasons I enjoy watching it. There’s time to analyze everything about a situation, be it a pitcher/batter matchup, a defensive alignment, or a baserunning miscue. That, and there’s no “blink and you miss it” problem.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:55:08pm

re: #308 MsJ

My team is losing tonight. Again.

I haz a major sad.

Hubby is a curling widower.

This is not how haiku works.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:55:22pm

re: #330 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

During the playoffs, in the late innings, when the batter is making the pitcher throw strikes or foul off pitches, the catcher is trying to outguess the batter, the pitcher is tired or the reliever is nervous, every moment is thick with anticipation. The entire year is on the line, they’ve been playing every single day since February and if they lose, the whole year goes down the drain and they have to start all over again.

Yeah it’s a lot of fun. I’ve been to a couple Orioles playoff games. Both games were tight for much of the game. They lost both games but it was some of the most fun I’ve had at a baseball game.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:55:35pm

re: #331 The Vicious Babushka

Warren is where GM tech center is located. It used to be solid working class white but a lot of immigrants are there now (Hispanic, Arab, South Asian)

Ah okay.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:31pm

I’m fascinated by baseball’s history too so that helps. Was laughing my ass off see Crazy Phyillis Schalfry call for a ban on foreign born players.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:33pm
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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:35pm

Guardian’s mini-Hillary just said “I’m still standing” ;)

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danarchy  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:35pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

I can’t believe people find baseball boring. One of the few sports that you can’t run the clock out in.

I love baseball and there are a few really great games every season. But for every great game there are 10 that you just wish would end. If you get two opposing pitchers who take a lot of time between pitches the games can take an eternity for no good reason.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:37pm

re: #319 Blind Frog Belly White

The absence of a clock is one of the things that makes it so mind-numbingly dull. And in sports where you CAN run out the clock, you can also fail to do so spectacularly.

Like in Hockey when a team gives up a winning goal with seconds left on the clock. I know all about those because previous Columbus teams specialized in it. My favorites were when we scored the tying goal with less than a minute only to lose seconds later. Those make for real long minutes.

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majii  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:41pm

re: #119 stpaulbear

David Brooks can go pound sand. HARD. He’s partly responsible for the predicament that the GOP/TP establishment now finds itself in because he either always shilled for his party or used the “both sides do it” excuse when he knew the GOP/TP had fallen off the cliff and was headed into the abyss. He knew it. Charles Pierce at Esquire has been noting this about Brooks for years.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:43pm

We ought to threaten the cable companies to have a mass cancellation on a single day if they keep airing that asshole. Just the TV portion.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:56:58pm

re: #341 danarchy

I love baseball and there are a few really great games every season. But for every great game there are 10 that you just wish would end. If you get two opposing pitchers who take a lot of time between pitches the games can take an eternity for no good reason.

True that.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:57:36pm

re: #343 majii

David Brooks can go pound sand. HARD. He’s partly responsible for the predicament that the GOP/TP establishment now finds itself in because he either always shilled for his party or used the “both sides do it” excuse when he knew the GOP/TP had fallen off the cliff and was headed into the abyss. He knew it. Charles Pierce at Esquire has been noting this about Brooks for years.

Desperate David Brooks Urges Brokered Convention For the Republican Party He Helped Destroy

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:58:56pm

re: #334 Barefoot Grin

This is not how haiku works.

Too blue to haiku.
Sorry, it’s just not in me.
Tonite I’ll just cry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:59:01pm

gahhhhhhhh

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:59:13pm

Kalamazoo for Kasich

… just thinking of campaign slogans.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:59:25pm

re: #326 b.d.

50% in and Bernie is up by 25,000 votes in MI

With zero Detroit precincts reporting.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:59:30pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:59:39pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:59:42pm

re: #349 freetoken

Kalamazoo for Kasich

… just thinking of campaign slogans.

You’re an odd duck.
;)

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2016 • 6:59:54pm

re: #347 MsJ

Too blue to haiku.
Sorry, it’s just not in me.
Tonite I’ll just cry.

I wish I could upding 17 times.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:00:00pm

This pitcher was not nervous:

WS 2009 Gm1: Lee makes two plays look easy

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Skip Intro  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:00:29pm

re: #274 Amory Blaine

Deadly infection outbreak in Wisconsin gaining urgency

Isn’t this another job best handled by the states, particularly Koch brothers owned ones?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:00:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:00:52pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

gahhhhhhhh

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Only to this candidate woul winning a 1/3 of the African-American vote be cause for celebration.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:01:41pm

re: #317 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:02:21pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:02:37pm

re: #313 ObserverArt

Just switched to MSNBC and Trump is on and all I am hearing is the same stupid shit he has said all along. I can’t take it. Back to hockey game wrap-up for my sanity.

Can you imagine his speech when he wins the Republican nomination? His head will get so big that he’ll float away. His ego knows no bounds. His entire speech was about how personally great he is. This is all about him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:02:37pm
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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:02:51pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

The DNC better get a clue and not do to Trump what the Republicans did.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:02:52pm

RATINGS>POLICY
- Media

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:03:13pm

9,003 votes difference now

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:03:30pm

Whoa Michigan just got closer.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:03:38pm

What did I read the other day…Trump got more air time in February than Obama did in the entire 2012 cycle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:03:47pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:03:49pm

re: #363 freetoken

The DNC better get a clue and not do to Trump what the Republicans did.

Who knows, the DNC is a mess.
*Shrugs*

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:03:57pm

re: #365 b.d.

9,003 votes difference now

49.9% Bernie
48.3% Hillary

56% reporting

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:04:04pm

re: #365 b.d.

9,003 votes difference now

Where? Who?

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:04:12pm

re: #360 jaunte

Clinton presidency, same as the Obama one.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:04:20pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I failed.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:04:23pm

re: #371 The Vicious Babushka

Where? Who?

overall. Bernie still with the lead.

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TedStriker  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:04:49pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

The Sanders campaign is completely, embarrassingly tone deaf about racial issues.

Especially for a team (and a candidate) that trumpets his 60s civil rights bonafides as though Sanders is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:04:58pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

That’s idiotic.

Sanders is right where Trump is on immigration.

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Lidane  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:05:02pm

Countdown to National Review holding ritual sacrifices and seances to bring back Zombie Reagan in 3…2…1….

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:05:17pm

re: #370 b.d.

Wow, I wasn’t looking and her percentage jumped fast!

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:05:37pm

re: #377 Lidane

Countdown to National Review holding ritual sacrifices and seances to bring back Zombie Reagan in 3…2…1….

“Eggheads”, Trump called them tonight.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:05:44pm

re: #376 Ziggy_TARDIS

That’s idiotic.

Sanders is right where Trump is on immigration.

That’s crap dude. Bernie hasn’t called for deporting all Muslims. I have my disappointments with him on the issue but Trump he ain’t.

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Reality Based Steve  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:05:49pm

re: #330 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

During the playoffs, in the late innings, when the batter is making the pitcher throw strikes or foul off pitches, the catcher is trying to outguess the batter, the pitcher is tired or the reliever is nervous, every moment is thick with anticipation. The entire year is on the line, they’ve been playing every single day since February and if they lose, the whole year goes down the drain and they have to start all over again.

And that is why Baseball is, in fact, the most perfect game ever devised. It’s a team sport, but it’s pretty much a 1 on 1 game for each action. Pitcher v. Batter dueling it out, while on first a fast runner is threatening to break for second. A low arcing hit to the short stop and a quick double play.

All performed at a pace and by people that is human scale. Most men don’t, for a second, think they could survive on an NFL / NHL / NBA matchup, but I bet many secretly think that they could get a bit lucky and get a good hit on a hanging curve, given half a chance.

RBS

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:06:01pm

re: #379 freetoken

“Eggheads”, Trump called them tonight.

That’s an insult to the hard working eggheads at the egg factory.

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:06:04pm

re: #376 Ziggy_TARDIS

That’s idiotic.

Sanders is right where Trump is on immigration.

Say what?!

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:06:08pm

re: #378 Nyet

Wow, I wasn’t looking and her percentage jumped fast!

The big areas around Detroit are weighing in.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:06:12pm

Wayne County seems to be coming through.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:06:35pm

re: #376 Ziggy_TARDIS

That’s idiotic.

Sanders is right where Trump is on immigration.

No he’s not. Grow the fuck up.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:06:53pm

re: #383 withak

Say what?!

Sanders does have some disappointing past votes and stances on immigration to the point where it’s why I probably do favor Clinton over him but that’s just not right.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:06:58pm

re: #384 ObserverArt

She was literally at 45 something and then bam!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:07:07pm

The biggest annoyance a Sanders presidency for me would be when his most rabid fans get hit the reality.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:07:19pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Really? He’s aligned with Tulsi Gabbard, who more or less follows BJP (in India) party line on Muslims.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:07:29pm

re: #385 Nyet

Wayne County seems to be coming through.

And that will change the percentage of African Americans for Bernie.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:07:31pm

re: #377 Lidane

Thing is there are a bunch of Dems that took a look at Trump and then went to the seance. Republicans for Hilary may counter protest.

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b.d.  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:07:41pm

49.9% Bernie
48.3% Hillary

57% in

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:08:20pm

re: #389 Not a Sparkly Vampire

The biggest annoyance a Sanders presidency for me would be when his most rabid fans get hit the reality.

See Obama 2009+.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:08:27pm

Exciting!
/Not really
:P

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:08:27pm

re: #390 Ziggy_TARDIS

Really? He’s aligned with Tulsi Gabbard, who more or less follows BJP (in India) party line on Muslims.

I’m sure Hillary has some endorsers who have some pretty fucked up things in their closets too.

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:08:33pm

re: #390 Ziggy_TARDIS

Really? He’s aligned with Tulsi Gabbard, who more or less follows BJP (in India) party line on Muslims.

Gabbard endorsed him under rather odd circumstances. To connect the dots in this way is a severe leap in logic.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:08:36pm

re: #394 MsJ

See Obama 2009+.

Indeed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:08:40pm

I would much rather see a Clinton-Trump matchup. Trump would roll over Bernie like a steamroller on steroids. Hillary would wave Trump’s dick around after removing it together with his balls.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:11pm

re: #389 Not a Sparkly Vampire

The biggest annoyance a Sanders presidency for me would be when his most rabid fans get hit the reality.

Indeed, the second Bernie inevitably has to give in on something, they’d be crying betrayal. Ironically someone like me who didn’t vote for Bernie in the primary would actually be more sympathetic.

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TedStriker  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:21pm

re: #389 Not a Sparkly Vampire

The biggest annoyance a Sanders presidency for me would be when his most rabid fans get hit the reality.

Just like those who thought that voting for President Obama in 2008 was going to net them unicorns that shat caviar and pissed Cristal, a Ferrari in the garage, and a house in the Hamptons.

Totally. Fucking. Delusional.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:23pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

I’m sure Hillary has some endorsers who have some pretty fucked up things in their closets too.

They all do. But saying Sanders is like Trump is crazy talk.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:32pm

re: #376 Ziggy_TARDIS

That’s idiotic.

Sanders is right where Trump is on immigration.

Don’t be a HillaryBro. That’s the mirror image of “those black voters are low-info”.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:42pm

re: #376 Ziggy_TARDIS

That’s idiotic.

Sanders is right where Trump is on immigration.

Check yourself. Thats just not right.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:45pm

re: #264 Amory Blaine

Selling bacon?

Over my dead body!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:52pm

re: #402 MsJ

They all do. But saying Sanders is like Trump is crazy talk.

I said as much already heh.

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retired cynic  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:09:53pm

re: #343 majii

David Brooks can go pound sand. HARD. He’s partly responsible for the predicament that the GOP/TP establishment now finds itself in because he either always shilled for his party or used the “both sides do it” excuse when he knew the GOP/TP had fallen off the cliff and was headed into the abyss. He knew it. Charles Pierce at Esquire has been noting this about Brooks for years.

Driftglass chews on him just about every day!

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:10:15pm

Yeah!!!

Hillary just mentioned Tamir Rice in Cleveland. And she is giving us Ohioans credit for being important for the US. So, you might fly over us…but you can’t ignore us!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:10:28pm

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

I would much rather see a Clinton-Trump matchup. Trump would roll over Bernie like a steamroller on steroids. Hillary would wave Trump’s dick around after removing it together with his balls.

Metal.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:10:40pm

re: #408 ObserverArt

Yeah!!!

Hillary just mentioned Tamir Rice in Cleveland. And she is giving us Ohioans credit for being important for the US. So, you might fly over us…but you can’t ignore us!

I like seeing that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:10:52pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:11:02pm

re: #407 retired cynic

Driftglass chews on him just about every day!

Exposing David effing Brooks for the hack and shill that he is constitutes an important public service.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:11:29pm

re: #405 Joe Bacon

Over my dead body!

Chall… never mind.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:11:55pm

Drunk cooking was intentional comedy. Drunk history the same. This, on the right is drunk elections, as unintentional tragicomedy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:12:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:12:33pm

re: #414 Great White Snark

Drunk cooking was intentional comedy. Drunk history the same. This, on the right is drunk elections, as unintentional tragicomedy.

This isn’t drunk election. This is bath salts election.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:12:39pm

Sigh. Night Lizards. Sleep/dream well. And may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you .

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:12:46pm

re: #412 EPR-radar

Exposing David effing Brooks for the hack and shill that he is constitutes an important public service.

Drives me nuts that NPR still has him on with EJ Dionne every week. Find a less hacky hack to spew GOP talking points at us, please.

It has been fun to hear him become increasingly morose, however.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:13:00pm
HARRY ENTEN 10:11 PM
Close call, Micah, but he’s up only 1.8 percentage points with still more than half of Wayne County to count, and we saw how when Detroit counted, Sanders’s lead dropped from greater than 5 percentage points to less than 2 percentage points.
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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:13:14pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

This isn’t drunk election. This is bath salts election.

Boom.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:13:26pm

re: #415 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I suspect she turns this out in the end. It’ll be closer than predicted which will give some cause for some celebration until they realize they got a tough test next Tuesday as well.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:13:31pm

re: #397 withak

He’s been known to be praised by Steve King on Immigration too. Can’t find the article right now though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:13:39pm
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jaunte  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:13:48pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

This isn’t drunk election. This is bath salts election.

This is the emotional dysfunction election.

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Great White Snark  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:13:55pm

re: #417 Bubblehead II

Sigh. Night Lizards. Sleep/dream well. And may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you .

That signoff is one of my faves around here.

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TedStriker  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:14:36pm

re: #424 jaunte

This is the emotional dysfunction election.

Stockholm syndrome election.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:14:36pm

re: #422 Ziggy_TARDIS

Come on, Bernie ain’t no where in the same universe close to Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:14:40pm

re: #422 Ziggy_TARDIS

stop digging that hole

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calochortus  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:14:42pm

re: #418 withak

Drives me nuts that NPR still has him on with EJ Dionne every week. Find a less hacky hack to spew GOP talking points at us, please.

It has been fun to hear him become increasingly morose, however.

Yeah, but who would that “less hacky hack” be?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:14:55pm

re: #422 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s been known to be praised by Steve King on Immigration too. Can’t find the article right now though.

Donald Trump though. Donald Trump who has called an entire group rapists and said we shouldn’t allow Muslims in. Believe me, I have my criticisms with Bernie’s immigration record. In fact, it’s why I could not vote for him last week but to suggest he’s the same as Trump is wrong.

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bratwurst  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:15:11pm

re: #422 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s been known to be praised by Steve King on Immigration too. Can’t find the article right now though.

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:15:37pm

re: #422 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s been known to be praised by Steve King on Immigration too. Can’t find the article right now though.

That’s all well and good. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Bernie’s stances on immigration are not at all what we’d like, especially when compared to Clinton.

But that is miles away from Bernie and Trump having the same positions on immigration.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:15:45pm

I voted for HRC in the NH primary, but I’ve defended Bernie and his supporters at LGF because my wife worked for him in the primary and I got to know a few of them and about them. It was a very diverse group in age, gender, and race. As far as i knew, they were well behaved. I went to a couple of events and there was none of the “If bernie doesn’t win I’m going home” stuff.

But clearly i didn’t understand the full scope of what his movement is. The #mississippiberning thing is just the last example of a campaign without discipline.

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EPR-radar  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:16:28pm

re: #422 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s been known to be praised by Steve King on Immigration too. Can’t find the article right now though.

Stop digging. Even if this is true, it’s more likely to be Republican rat-fucking than anything else.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:17:37pm

re: #433 Barefoot Grin

I voted for HRC in the NH primary, but I’ve defended Bernie and his supporters at LGF because my wife worked for him in the primary and I got to know a few of them and about them. It was a very diverse group in age, gender, and race. As far as i knew, they were well behaved. I went to a couple of events and there was none of the “If bernie doesn’t win I’m going home” stuff.

But clearly i didn’t understand the full scope of what his movement is. The #mississippiberning thing is just the last example of a campaign without discipline.

I’ll gladly defend him. I said it earlier when he was suing the Ohio SoS for not allowing seventeen year olds to vote who turn eight on or before election day was great. I have some problems with Bernie but truth be told a lot of them are related to how viable as a candidate he’d be and effective as President but i’m still glad he fights for the things he does often than not.

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CarolJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:17:44pm

I read drunk cooking, and it made me think. We all know about alcohol as an ingredient, but I wonder about how many recipes have come from cooks being a little “lit” in the kitchen? I imagine cooks stumbling around in the kitchen and thinking, how would this ingredient taste combined with this ingredient, and wanting to experiment. Indeed to endure a long time in the kitchens of old, you probably needed to have a little in you from time to time.

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withak  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:17:44pm

Looks like it’ll be a late one in Michigan.

I’m going to go play some vidya games and catch the latest episode of Agents of SHIELD. I’ll be back later…

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SteelPH  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:17:45pm

re: #422 Ziggy_TARDIS

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:18:10pm
HARRY ENTEN 10:17 PM
I know this may upset the Sanders fans (who don’t exactly love me), but our delegate targets say that Sanders should win Michigan by four delegates over Clinton in an even race. The problem is that Sanders has already run well behind his overall delegate targets. That means he needs to be doing even better than them to really have a shot. This doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good night for Sanders — it definitely was. But the road ahead is long even if he pulls off what would be a shocking victory.
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:18:19pm

re: #430 HappyWarrior

Ok, I admit I am streamed.

A close acquaintaince called me evil for supporting Clinton, who she says is a War Criminal, because of Drone Strikes in Pakistan.

Except Pakistan just admitted this week that they have been sheltering the Taliban in Islamabad.

I am a little steamed, and trying to find an attack that might change the mind of Muslims I know.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:20:08pm

Bernie just nosed ahead a little bit more. Wayne County is still only 50% in so Hillary can still catch up.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:20:12pm

re: #440 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, I admit I am streamed.

A close acquaintaince called me evil for supporting Clinton, who she says is a War Criminal, because of Drone Strikes in Pakistan.

Except Pakistan just admitted this week that they have been sheltering the Taliban in Islamabad.

I am a little steamed, and trying to find an attack that might change the mind of Muslims I know.

Goddamn it man. So someone attacks you based on your choice of candidate. That’s wrong and I don’t blame you for being upset but to resort to outright lying like that does you no good. You’re among like minded, pragmatic folk here.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:20:12pm

Found it. Written by Luis Guiterrez.

The opponents of legal immigration - the most extreme wing of the anti-immigrant movement, took notice. NumbersUSA, the far-right group that wants fewer immigrants in the US, praised Sanders for opposing visas that would allow people to work legally in seasonable jobs at resorts and hotels.

Even Representative Steve King, one of the most staunchly anti-immigrant members of Congress, stated, “I admire Bernie’s passion and I notice that his immigration position is closer to mine than it is [to] some of the presidential candidates on the Republican side.”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:20:29pm

Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:20:51pm

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

Bernie just nosed ahead a little bit more. Wayne County is still only 50% in so Hillary can still catch up.

15,000 separating them at this point. Yeah still a lot of time. Not sure about the county Flint is in.

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stpaulbear  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:20:53pm

re: #418 withak

Drives me nuts that NPR still has him on with EJ Dionne every week. Find a less hacky hack to spew GOP talking points at us, please.

It has been fun to hear him become increasingly morose, however.

Problem is that Morning Edition and All Things Considered are chock full of right leaning hacky hacks. I had to quit listening years ago. I still listen to (and support) MN public radio when I’m on the road for work, but I have to change the channel when either of those shows is on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:21:07pm
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makeitstop  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:21:16pm

re: #443 Ziggy_TARDIS

Found it. Written by Luis Guiterrez.

Rat-fucking, period.

Stop. Now.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:21:34pm

re: #439 Nyet

Exactly. Bernie likes to natter this is a marathon, not a sprint. Well, part of winning a marathon is finding and maintaining a pace that allows you to win. And Bernie hasn’t done that, his pace is beginning to lag while hers has only gained momentum. He’s already starting to look winded while she hasn’t broken a sweat.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:21:44pm

re: #440 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ok, I admit I am streamed.

A close acquaintaince called me evil for supporting Clinton, who she says is a War Criminal, because of Drone Strikes in Pakistan.

Except Pakistan just admitted this week that they have been sheltering the Taliban in Islamabad.

I am a little steamed, and trying to find an attack that might change the mind of Muslims I know.

I’m a Democratic atheist in Texas, and I work at a defense contractor where 70+% of the people are Republicans. I often have to ignore the crap they say and do what I think is the right thing.

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ObserverArt  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:21:52pm

Damn…Michigan is going to be close.

Well, I’m about gassed for the evening. Later Lizards…again its fun sharing this with you and like others have said…it is fun catching up on the returns without having to watch theTV heads.

Like Chuck Todd who just mentioned Henry Ford and the Muslim community in Dearborn headquarters of Ford being strange. Fuck you Chuck!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:22:04pm

re: #443 Ziggy_TARDIS

Found it. Written by Luis Guiterrez.

Right and that’s why I voted against him but that’s not the same as being like Trump. It is disappointing believe me and it was that very article by Rep Guiterrez, who has done a lot on immigration that really rubbed me the wrong way.

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:22:06pm

My boys just four scored!
That puts them up six to four.
Joy to the world! WOOT!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:22:15pm

re: #445 HappyWarrior

15,000 separating them at this point. Yeah still a lot of time. Not sure about the county Flint is in.

Flint is in Genesee County. Only 31% in. Bernie just nosed ahead.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:23:03pm

re: #453 MsJ

My boys just four scored!
That puts them up six to four.
Joy to the world! WOOT!!!

I’m amazed that anyone could get excited about curling.
/:P

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:23:08pm

re: #451 ObserverArt

Damn…Michigan is going to be close.

Well, I’m about gassed for the evening. Later Lizards…again its fun sharing this with you and like others have said…it is fun catching up on the returns without having to watch theTV heads.

Like Chuck Todd who just mentioned Henry Ford and the Muslim community in Dearborn headquarters of Ford being strange. Fuck you Chuck!

The Muslim community in Dearborn that just wanted for the Jewish guy? Yeah I’m sure Henry Ford is thrilled that people in his home turf voted for a Socialist Jew.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:23:09pm

re: #440 Ziggy_TARDIS

Try not attacking.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:23:18pm

re: #454 The Vicious Babushka

Flint is in Genesee County. Only 31% in. Bernie just nosed ahead.

Ah okay. Thakns.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:23:36pm

re: #448 makeitstop

I’ll cool off.

I know what I must do to vent in a more productive way.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:23:51pm

re: #456 HappyWarrior

The Muslim community in Dearborn that just wanted for the Jewish guy? Yeah I’m sure Henry Ford is thrilled that people in his home turf voted for a Socialist Jew.

Harsh, man, harsh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:23:52pm

re: #456 HappyWarrior

The Muslim community in Dearborn that just wanted for the Jewish guy? Yeah I’m sure Henry Ford is thrilled that people in his home turf voted for a Socialist Jew.

He’s still spinning in his tomb over that Jewish guy who became Ford CEO last year.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:24:08pm

re: #457 GlutenFreeJesus

I don’t attack on FB.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:24:27pm

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

He’s still spinning in his tomb over that Jewish guy who became Ford CEO last year.

Better check him for a concussion then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:24:29pm

niterz, lizardz.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:25:12pm

re: #460 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Harsh, man, harsh.

Only to Henry Ford’s dead bigoted ass.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:25:31pm

re: #465 HappyWarrior

I know.
:)

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William Lewis  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:25:50pm

re: #463 HappyWarrior

Better check him for a concussion then.

Concussion? Wire up his coffin, he’s spinning enough to generate 20Kw electricity ;)

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stpaulbear  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:26:22pm

re: #455 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I’m amazed that anyone could get excited about curling.
/:P

But he just scored four!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:27:40pm

Four score? I never knew Abe was a curling fan!

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MsJ  Mar 8, 2016 • 7:28:13pm

re: #455 Not a Sparkly Vampire

I’m amazed that anyone could get excited about curling.
/:P

Dooood.

Canada is the Borg. I’ve been assimilated.


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