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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:21:00pm

In Michigan it appears Kasich has taken over the role that Rubio had in Iowa - win the counties dominated by universities and colleges.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:31:15pm

re: #1 freetoken

In Michigan it appears Kasich has taken over the role that Rubio had in Iowa - win the counties dominated by universities and colleges.

Will be interesting to see what happens in their respective home states next week. Gotta think Trump will be favorted in both. Bad news since I think both are winner take all. I give Kasich a better shot to win Ohio than Rubio Florida though. Rubio is floundering big time.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:32:18pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:33:51pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

He’s a Benghazi person.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:34:00pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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He sounds smart.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:35:26pm

Talking headz seem surprised that a political party that for years has pandered to angry old white bigoted males suddenly votes for an angry old white male bigot.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:35:35pm

Shit even if Trump weren’t a crazy bigoted asshole. You want to put someone that insecure in charge of setting our foreign policy?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:36:28pm

re: #6 freetoken

Talking headz seem surprised that a political party that for years has pandered to angry old white bigoted males suddenly votes for an angry old white male bigot.

With fake fucking steaks.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:36:37pm

re: #6 freetoken

Talking headz seem surprised that a political party that for years has pandered to angry old white bigoted males suddenly votes for an angry old white male bigot.

No kidding. They finally got a candidate that really speaks for them and they’re showing their support at the polls. What a shock.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:37:06pm

re: #8 Stanley Sea

With fake fucking steaks.

Fake hair, fake steaks, fake everything.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:37:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:38:15pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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No :(

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:38:35pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Will be interesting to see what happens in their respective home states next week. Gotta think Trump will be favorted in both. Bad news since I think both are winner take all. I give Kasich a better shot to win Ohio than Rubio Florida though. Rubio is floundering big time.

I’ve seen a couple of things suggesting that Trump loses one on one to either Cruz or Rubio (and I’d bet to Kasich). Given Rubio’s inability to actually win, I’m wondering if he doesn’t drop out in order to make it harder for Trump to win Florida, and by “drop out” I mean “have some big money donors explain that he needs to quit now if he ever wants money to run for another office ever again”

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:38:55pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

if you really believe half the shit Trump says about what he wants to do then your as dumb as he is.

You’re right, I don’t believe Trump will do half the shit he says he will. The problem is that I don’t know which half. I don’t think even Trump knows. And if that doesn’t scare the hell out of you, you are a fool of the highest order.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:39:56pm

re: #13 KGxvi

I’ve seen a couple of things suggesting that Trump loses one on one to either Cruz or Rubio (and I’d bet to Kasich). Given Rubio’s inability to actually win, I’m wondering if he doesn’t drop out in order to make it harder for Trump to win Florida, and by “drop out” I mean “have some big money donors explain that he needs to quit now if he ever wants money to run for another office ever again”

Hmmmm interesting.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:40:16pm

The skier in this edit follows me on Twitter. :-)

Jackson Hole Cliff drops and backcountry drone skiing with O_leeps

Note the use of a drone for footage.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:41:09pm

re: #14 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

You’re right, I don’t believe Trump will do half the shit he says he will. The problem is that I don’t know which half. I don’t think even Trump knows.

Trump may actually get some stuff right but the stuff he may get wrong could result in a major war or crisis. I don’t want to take that risk. And it amazes me that people want to play with fire like this.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:41:26pm

re: #13 KGxvi

But Hawaii.

Anyway, I think that it is unlikely that Rubio will drop out before March 15. There is no really good way to save face, but the last thing that a politician wants to project is being a quitter.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:43:44pm

Not for nothing. Blind squirrel. Broken clock. Etc.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:43:49pm
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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:43:56pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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Damn. Rest in peace, George.

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BeachDem  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:44:24pm

re: #1 freetoken

In Michigan it appears Kasich has taken over the role that Rubio had in Iowa - win the counties dominated by universities and colleges.

Why does Kasich get more delegates when Cruz got more votes?

(At least on the NYT page it shows
Cruz 287,102 24.6% 12 delegates
Kasich 284,955 24.4% 15 delegates

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:44:25pm

re: #4 Ziggy_TARDIS

He’s a Benghazi person.

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Rhetorical Question to ask someone like that: If #BenghaziStillMatters, then why haven’t you worked to persuade the Federal Government to find ways to get the Libyan National Army the equipment it needs to secure Benghazi?

After all, the best way to avenge those who died in Benghazi on 09/11/2012 is to take out the Islamists who carried out the attack. It would also have the side benefit of handing Daesh a defeat.

Not that the Twitter haters will respond intelligently to that, but its a way of coming at goofballs like that from an unexpected direction.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:44:28pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Trump may actually get some stuff right but the stuff he may get wrong could result in a major war or crisis. I don’t want to take that risk. And it amazes me that people want to play with fire like this.

Exactly. That’s the difference between Cruz and Trump for me. I’m mostly afraid of what Trump would do by accident. I’m mostly afraid of what Cruz would do on purpose.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:45:54pm

re: #22 BeachDem

Their both at 16 delegates now.

I think it has to do with the portion of delegates awarded by congressional district. Each state seems to have a variation on the rules, but usually second place gets one delegate, winner gets two. Not sure if that is how MI works, but possibly.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:46:50pm

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

u d be dum to believe it would be allowed to happen. Were u also a believer that Obama was going to destroy America

Obama didn’t campaign on explicit promises to destroy America, though.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:46:53pm

re: #22 BeachDem

Why does Kasich get more delegates when Cruz got more votes?

(At least on the NYT page it shows
Cruz 287,102 24.6% 12 delegates
Kasich 284,955 24.4% 15 delegates

Some states allocate some of their delegates by Congressional district. So one can narrowly do better in terms of overall votes but still have one to three fewer delegates.

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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:47:07pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Disgusting.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:47:17pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Fake hair, fake steaks, fake everything.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:47:55pm

re: #24 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Exactly. That’s the difference between Cruz and Trump for me. I’m mostly afraid of what Trump would do by accident. I’m mostly afraid of what Cruz would do on purpose.

It really is scary. I mean it’s like asking should I shoot you point blank in the range in the head or should I stab you in your heart? Both are awful choices. To think a former Gingrich follower like Kasich may be the most decent one in the bunch. It just makes me sick. Clinton may not be perfect but I trust she’ll have an administration that will respect the rights of all Americans regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, disability status, or economic status. Cannot say the same about the others. Anyone who believes Donald Trump cares about the little guy is a damned fool falling for the worst kind of populist demagoguery.

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KGxvi  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:47:56pm

re: #18 freetoken

But Hawaii.

Anyway, I think that it is unlikely that Rubio will drop out before March 15. There is no really good way to save face, but the last thing that a politician wants to project is being a quitter.

My guess is he stays in trying to win Florida, and if he doesn’t then he has to give it up. But if he decides tomorrow, he can paint it as doing what’s best for party and country (which to republicans is the same thing). “The party has spoken, and it is time for me to bow out. But we must unite behind (non trump) to save our party and our country from a charlatan like trump”

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Lidane  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:50:11pm
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Nyet  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:50:25pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

At least he’s not a buster.

I’ll take it.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:51:04pm

Just smelling bullshit at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:51:09pm

My Dad and I were talking Trump. He’s just dumb founded about the whole appeal. He said and I agreed with him that we both thought that general public perception of Trump is that he’s a damn clown that people laugh at since he’s got such an overly high opinion of himself. i mean that people look at this guy and think YES! HE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME TITLE AND POWER NEXT TO HIS NAME THAT WASHINGTON, LINCOLN, AND ROOSEVELT HAD just makes me dizzy thinking about it. If he does lose, I hope he leaves this country for a deserted island in the middle of no where and leaves the rest of the world alone foerver.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:51:23pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

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If Trump was wise, he’d have said “I was going to have bottled water here but because of the crisis in Flint I sent the water there and I’ve got my volunteers taking the cases to people who have a hard time getting water home from the distribution points.”

That would actually help him and the party.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:51:30pm

Remember how the Marvel CEO supported Trump earlier?

Apparently, he likes Trump because he is just as big an asshole.

Befitting a Palm Beach imbroglio, the dispute began over a local tennis pro. Now, at least three lawsuits later, a neighbor of Mr. Perlmutter has accused him and his wife of sending slanderous letters, unsigned, that say the neighbor “sexually assaulted” an 11-year-old “at knife-point” and murdered a local couple.

The hate-mail campaign, which included more than a thousand letters sent to the neighbor’s friends and business associates, is said to be part of an effort by Mr. Perlmutter to pressure the neighbor, Harold Peerenboom, to leave the gated community where they both own homes. One of the letters started, “Today I write you to warn you about Harold Peerenboom of 8 Sloans Curve Road who is a sexual predator.”

Mr. Peerenboom, who has never been accused of these crimes, is now trying to compel Marvel to produce Mr. Perlmutter’s emails.

A spokesman for Marvel declined to comment, saying it does not discuss personal matters involving Mr. Perlmutter.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:51:35pm

re: #32 Lidane

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I’m for a Murray-Rock ticket.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:51:38pm

The next “debate” is on Thursday, from Miami.

It will be on CNN, and given the horrible job that Blitzer did last time, this one has the possibility big donnybrook.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:52:15pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

If Trump was wise, he’d have said “I was going to have bottled water here but because of the crisis in Flint I sent the water there and I’ve got my volunteers taking the cases to people who have a hard time getting water home from the distribution points.”

That would actually help him and the party.

That would Turmp not being like Trump though.

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austin_blue  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:52:21pm

Thunder to the south. Weather moving in. Most of the heavy stuff is still well to the west. We’ll take whatever we get. For an El Nino winter, this one has been spectacularly dry. Everything has been moving north of us.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:52:58pm

re: #37 Ziggy_TARDIS

Remember how the Marvel CEO supported Trump earlier?

Apparently, he likes Trump because he is just as big an asshole.

Missed that. An asshole likes an asshole though. Hardly news but thx.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:53:41pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Anyone who believes Donald Trump cares about the little guy is a damned fool falling for the worst kind of populist demagoguery.

Donald Trump has no actual principles beyond “Donald Trump should get whatever Donald Trump wants”. His commitment to the little guy will last as long as it continues to be to his benefit, and not one second longer.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:53:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:56:18pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

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I didn’t see anyone making that argument when Bernie won Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Kansas. Listen. Each of these candidates has won a state that likely won’t go for the Democratic party in November. Each of them has lost a safe Democratic state. too. Clinton’s overwhelmingly winning in popular vote too and you can’t discount that along with the delegate lead. I’m sorry but people need to stop letting their dislike of Clinton cloud the reality that she’s very much winning the race.

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Teukka  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:56:22pm

re: #37 Ziggy_TARDIS

Remember how the Marvel CEO supported Trump earlier?

Apparently, he likes Trump because he is just as big an asshole.

What is it with wingtards and those hyperbolic pædophile claims which turn out to be less solid than an overcooked noodle?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:56:28pm

re: #43 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Donald Trump has no actual principles beyond “Donald Trump should get whatever Donald Trump wants”. His commitment to the little guy will last as long as it continues to be to his benefit, and not one second longer.

Exactly.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:57:26pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

That actually caused a bit of a problem, because Ms. Marvel, now a Pakistani-American Muslim living in Jersey City, is one of the most popular comic book characters right now.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:57:31pm

re: #31 KGxvi

My guess is he stays in trying to win Florida, and if he doesn’t then he has to give it up.

But losing badly there might really end his career. If he pulls out now and urges his voters to support other candidates, he can spin a very poor showing as them following his request. If he stays in, it’s just him getting whupped.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:57:44pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:58:42pm

Delusional fuckwit at The Federalist says what?

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:59:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 9:59:09pm

re: #49 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

But losing badly there might really end his career. If he pulls out now and urges his voters to support other candidates, he can spin a very poor showing as them following his request. If he stays in, it’s just him getting whupped.

He is in a tough spot. I’d be shocked if he drops out though.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:00:11pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

Delusional fuckwit at The Federalist says what?

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I like hot sauce with my delusion.

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Kragar  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:01:00pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:01:41pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

Not for nothing. Blind squirrel. Broken clock. Etc.

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I think we will all be together in the end.

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:01:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:02:26pm

re: #55 Kragar

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Too true. Insisting Trump is awful but offering support if he’s the nominee means Jack.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:03:11pm

re: #57 electrotek

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Christ. That’s some fucked up shit.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:04:21pm

re: #46 Teukka

Let’s hope Disney has the power to get rid of him.

I think they might. Disney took away his control over the movie studios back in September, after mixed reviews for Age of Ultron.

He is also the reason why there are almost no Black Widow toys.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:04:21pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

I think we will all be together in the end.

We will be because the reality of a Republican president will be starring its ugly head especially if his name is Cruz or Trump.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:04:25pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

IMO you need to get @karoli out of the replies. She most likely doesn’t want this conversation.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:05:25pm

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

If Trump was wise, he’d have said “I was going to have bottled water here but because of the crisis in Flint I sent the water there and I’ve got my volunteers taking the cases to people who have a hard time getting water home from the distribution points.”

That would actually help him and the party.

We’re talking Trump here.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:05:56pm

Oh gee let me find my nano-violin:

Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski forcibly yanked Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields out of the way after his press conference in Florida on Tuesday night.
Fields was attempting to ask Trump a question as he exited the press conference. Secret Service was starting to clear a path, when Fields was forcibly grabbed on her arm by Lewandowski, moving her out of the way and nearly bringing her down to the ground, a source who witnessed the situation told POLITICO.

Fields was clearly roughed up by the move, the witness said.

I’m sorry but if you choose to enable fascism you don’t get to act surprised when it turns on you.

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:06:27pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

Oh gee let me find my nano-violin:

I’m sorry but if you choose to enable fascism you don’t get to act surprised when it turns on you.

Poetic justice. That’s all.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:07:13pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

IMO you need to get @karoli out of the replies. She most likely doesn’t want this conversation.

Good point. She’s usually asks to be dropped if that’s what she wants though.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:07:31pm

re: #60 Ziggy_TARDIS

In regards to Black Widow toys.

The report also indicates that the ripples from Perlmutter’s departure may be even more substantial than originally thought. According to sources, Perlmutter—who has a background in the toy business—was specifically responsible for the controversial decision to take a gendered approach to Avengers merchandise. In short, the blame is falling on him for the conspicuous absence of Black Widow-related toys. This was a decision that even Marvel star Mark Ruffalo publicly protested. So between stars and directors speaking out, and well-publicized rifts, it looks like Marvel, for all its box office success, decided it had a few changes to make. We won’t necessarily see those changes right away; Captain America: Civil War and Doctor Strange are already well underway. But soon we’ll see if all of Marvel’s little problems vanish under sole creative leadership of Kevin Feige.

Perlmutter probably needs to go away.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:08:49pm

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

Oh gee let me find my nano-violin:

I’m sorry but if you choose to enable fascism you don’t get to act surprised when it turns on you.

I hate that to happen but I’m inclined to agree and I know Breitbart would laugh it off if it was a liberal critic of Trump being roughed up. So no pity really.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:10:21pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

Van Jones: Hillary mainly winning states Dems have no chance to win in November.

Yes, doing better with the somewhat less liberal wing of the Democratic primary electorate will definitely doom her with the voter base in the general.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:10:58pm

re: #46 Teukka

What is it with wingtards and those hyperbolic pædophile claims which turn out to be less solid than an overcooked noodle?

Projection?

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BeachDem  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:11:13pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

Delusional fuckwit at The Federalist says what?

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Cruz’s and Rubio’s combined total in MI was still about 30,000 less than Trump. Are they going to stab Kasich in a dark alley (or are they going to have Dr. Ben do it?)

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electrotek  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:12:22pm

Cruz won Idaho

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:12:52pm

re: #72 electrotek

Cruz won Idaho

Score one for me. Called that.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:13:28pm

OMG I BOUGHT NEW SKIS TODAY!!!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:13:44pm

Cruz I think has emerged as the anti Trump. Gotta love it.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:15:23pm

re: #55 Kragar

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I like the joke, but that’s a dire Kasich caricature.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:17:22pm

re: #76 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

I like the joke, but that’s a dire Kasich caricature.

Rubio pretty dire as well. Ted, they added lbs, which they shouldn’t.

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BeachDem  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:18:00pm

re: #76 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

I like the joke, but that’s a dire Kasich caricature.

I thought it was quite apt. (And Rubio is perfect.)

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:18:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:19:37pm

re: #78 BeachDem

I thought it was quite apt. (And Rubio is perfect.)

It amazes me Cruz and Rubio are only a year apart. Never would have guessed that if I didn’t know.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:20:54pm

I’m kind of enjoying the Bernie joy tonight. Fuck it.

Trump destroys everything normal.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:21:01pm

re: #57 electrotek

Bernie has earned the votes of Islamists.

Of course, what with Islamists’ well known love of Jews and all. It only makes sense.

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blueraven  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:21:14pm

Wild!

Kyle Odom, Suspect in Idaho Pastor Shooting, Arrested Outside White House

nbcnews.com

Kyle Andrew Odom, the ex-Marine accused of shooting a prominent Idaho minister outside his church, was arrested by the U.S. Secret Service in Washington, D.C., after he threw objects over the White House fence, police said.

The Secret Service confirmed the arrest to NBC News late Tuesday night.

Tim Remington, senior pastor of The Altar Church in Coeur d’Alene, was shot six times and critically wounded in the church’s parking lot Sunday. His condition has since been upgraded to fair, and he was described as stable.

Odom, 30, was arrested without incident at 8:27 p.m. ET at the South Fence of the White House, Coeur d’Alene Police Chief Lee White said. He was apprehended while throwing objects, including documents and a computer flash drive, over the fence, White said.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:22:13pm

re: #71 BeachDem

Cruz’s and Rubio’s combined total in MI was still about 30,000 less than Trump. Are they going to stab Kasich in a dark alley (or are they going to have Dr. Ben do it?)

No shit, there’s no way Kasich is gonna stand aside for Cruz. If anything, he’ll expect to pick up votes when Rubio drops out. So it’s gonna be a knife fight between Cruz and Kasich for the “Not-Trump” title while Trump…keeps winning delegates.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:25:00pm

re: #83 blueraven

He got a long ways without being detected.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:26:50pm

Looking at the calendar going forward, after Hawaii tonight (no results yet), there are no less than 66 more Republican delegates available before March 15th.

However, the contests are all sort of wonky:

Virgin Islands has a caucus on Thursday, the night of the debate.

On Saturday, DC, Guam, and Wyoming are having what they call “conventions”.

All of these seem to be the kind of things that can be wired for Rubio.

So these 66 delegates can be denied to Trump.

Then, if Rubio concentrates on Missouri and Illinois, to pick up candidates on 15th - who knows if Rubio can get ahead of Cruz - certainly the latter doesn’t think so.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:29:13pm

There’s something hilarious about how we’re no longer talking about whether or not Trump’s challengers can win the nomination from him, but whether they can deny him enough delegates to prevent him from winning the nomination outright.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:31:15pm

Hawaii 4% in… and Trump leads!

Rubio in last place!

The difference between them?

57 votes.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:31:43pm

Hawaii’s first numbers roll in, Trump with a 28% lead

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:33:18pm

re: #88 freetoken

Hawaii 4% in… and Trump leads!

Rubio in last place!

The difference between them?

57 votes.

All from Kauai

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:35:29pm

My favorite Trump portrait:

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:38:55pm

Maui coming in … not many Republicans in Maui….

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:39:58pm

Rubio takes a 3 vote lead over Kasich to stay out of last place.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:40:46pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart

All from Kauai

Hawaii totals are utterly meaningless until Honolulu returns comes in. Something like two-thirds of the entire State lives in that county, and it’s a much more urban demographic comparatively.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:45:52pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Still, not many Republicans even on Honolulu.

9% of the county in, and Trump leads… with a total of 114 votes.

Just not many Republicans out in the middle of the Pacific.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:47:19pm

Just to show how undemocratic this whole process is, a Republican delegate in Hawaii can be had for an order of magnitude less votes than a delegate in Michigan.

But each delegate carries the same weight at the convention.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:49:23pm

Depressing note:
Trump is more than 1/3 of the way to the nomination
By next Tuesday night he will more than likely be over 1/2 way there…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:52:52pm

In fact this is why SD’s exist, to prevent the Party from being cynically rat fucked. Which isn’t to say that’s what Bernie represents, but that they exist to fill a legitimate function.

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BeachDem  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:54:43pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

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In fact this is why SD’s exist, to prevent the Party from being cynically rat fucked. Which isn’t to say that’s what Bernie represents, but that they exist to fill a legitimate function.

Another strong argument for closed primaries.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:56:29pm

OK ya’ll. Over & out. Work has been taxing lately & another day beckons.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 10:56:50pm

re: #97 FormerDirtDart

Still, Trump has less than 50% of the awarded delegates, much less.

He will need to win the winner-take-all contests on March 15th, and then some of the other ones later.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:00:51pm

re: #99 BeachDem

Another strong argument for closed primaries.

I can see the argument for allowing Independent’s to request a Dem ballot as is the case here in California, where the GOP in contrast runs a closed primary and is perpetually shut out of power. I think in our case it does help generate a certain amount of “buy in” that helps boost Dem general election numbers.

But who knows. Also total cross over voting like what took place in MI does seem like it’s incredibly problematic and ripe for gamesmanship. If you’re already a registered member of one Party that’s the only ballot you should be allowed to get on Primary day. You should also probably be required to change your registration a week in advance or something if you want to switch.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:04:37pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

On a personal note I appreciate CA’s approach, because while I lean strongly Democrat, I have very strong personal feelings about not registering as a party member one way or another.

That is a decision I make, knowing what the consequences might be. But it’s nice that in CA, I still get to have a say. I’m not looking to game the system or mess with someone else’s race, I just don’t want to have a party preference recorded as part of my voter registration.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:05:41pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:09:29pm

re: #103 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s not the case in Colorado. I couldn’t participate in any of the caucuses (yes, CO is a freaking caucus state) because I’m a registered independent. Me and about another third of Colorado registered voters couldn’t participate in the Republican or Democratic caucus, ‘cause we’re not cool enough.

In Colorado Bernie won the Democratic caucus, Republicans decided “Fuck it! This is bullshit!”

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:12:43pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

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In fact this is why SD’s exist, to prevent the Party from being cynically rat fucked. Which isn’t to say that’s what Bernie represents, but that they exist to fill a legitimate function.

That’s the reality in all this, SDs are a contingency against candidates who game the system in order to win the nomination. They don’t exist to override a legitimate candidate’s nomination, they exist to serve as a fail-safe to prevent the sort of danger the GOP faces of a brokered convention. If Clinton and Sanders get to the convention with enough pledged delegates apiece to win the nomination outright, then the superdelegates are there to ensure that the candidate who the party feels stands the best chance of winning the general election wins the nomination. Hell, if Bernie starts winning enough races convincingly that he can argue that he’s got a better chance to win the general than Hillary does, then those superdelegates could defect and support him over her.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:12:51pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

I …am not a fan of caucuses.

CA’s primaries for everything but the Presidential race are pretty awesome. Had to request my Presidential primary ballot, but mailed that off last week.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:17:11pm

Given that the President is elected in a rather undemocratic way, we should not be surprised about the strange mechanics of getting candidates on the ballot.

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teleskiguy  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:17:15pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

In Colorado Bernie won the Democratic caucus, Republicans decided “Fuck it! This is bullshit!”

The Colorado Republican Party decided last August. The delegates aren’t declaring their candidate until Cleveland, their constituency be damned. That’s smart, especially in Colorado.

Republicans in Colorado know how much of a shit show the Republican primary is, and they’ve decided to wait and see.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:28:35pm

re: #103 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I just don’t want to have a party preference recorded as part of my voter registration.

I used to feel that way, but then the GOP got so irredeemably terrible and racist that I felt it was important for me to oppose them as openly and thoroughly as possible. That meant not only that I would never vote Republican ever again, but that I was only fooling myself by pretending to be independent when I no longer had any intention whatsoever of voting that way.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:35:21pm

CNN declares Trump winner in HI.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:40:02pm

What this election is all about - ratings:

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Alyosha  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:54:50pm

This chucklehead…

I’ll blink when al-Shabab is the name of the most successful sunflower merchant enterprise in East Africa.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:55:30pm

Over at The Regurgitant, Son of Erick rambles, illogically spewing out fantasies about Cruz being able to win.

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freetoken  Mar 8, 2016 • 11:56:27pm

There is no way to photograph Ted Cruz to make him look attractive.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2016 • 12:02:59am

re: #115 freetoken

There is no way to photograph Ted Cruz to make him look attractive.

The photographer in me really wants to argue with that, but can’t. There are things he does style wise and in terms of mannerism that are seriously not helping, but he’s working against a massively stacked deck.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2016 • 12:10:56am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 12:20:31am

Science guy writes an article in Forbes in response to lame WSJ article about science is a belief system, like religion.

No, Science Is Not Faith-Based

Ethan Siegel
forbes.com

The concluding paragraph summarize his main points pretty well.

The fundamental question is neither what the object of humanity’s faith will be nor how far it will extend, but rather how far you’re willing-and-able to test your most deeply held beliefs, and whether you’ll have the courage to change your conclusions to follow where the evidence guides. That is what separates science from anything faith-based, and why any faith-based belief system will never be considered scientific.

Creationists and conservatives argue that evolution is a faith-based belief system, just like Genesis and YEC, so it’s totally fair to teach creationism alongside evolution and the Big Bang theory in public school science classes. Siegel’s closing paragraph is a succinct response to this kind of nonsense. Scientists over the ages have discarded or changed theories to fit the evidence. How many creationists would abandon their belief in Genesis if it could be conclusively proved wrong? A very small number, if any.

Science adapts. Fundamentalism retrenches.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 12:22:45am

re: #115 freetoken

There is no way to photograph Ted Cruz to make him look attractive.

Like putting lipstick on a pig?

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2016 • 12:24:25am

re: #119 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Like putting lipstick on a pig?

Why do you hate pigs?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 12:32:00am

re: #120 Kragar

Why do you hate pigs?

Pigs are OK in my book. Basically very honest critters, unlike Ted of Alberta.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 12:45:00am

One of the more interesting things about this Hawaii Republican caucus is indeed that - it was a closed caucus, not an open primary.

The results upset the narrative that Trump can’t win these sort of things.

No matter what Mitt Romney or Erick Son of Erick want to believe, plenty of True Republicans will vote for Trump.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 1:06:22am

You have not heard the last of Ben Carson… oh no, not by a long shot:

His Presidential Bid Over, Ben Carson Has a Big Polling Lead

[…]

A new poll shows 56 percent of likely voters would choose Carson if he were to enter the state GOP primary for the job Sen. Marco Rubio plans to vacate. If Carson doesn’t run in what’s likely to be a crowded field, according to the poll, voters so far are backing Florida Rep. David Jolly, but far less enthusiastically: He polled at 18 percent, 38 points behind Carson.

[…]

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 9, 2016 • 1:06:37am

re: #113 Alyosha

How do you know you live in a militaristic empire? When your Gov kills 150 people in a country you’re not at war with & barely anyone blinks

What a bullshit talking point. Whether we’re at war with a country we’re killing people in has nothing to do with whether we should be doing that.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 1:11:48am

While Trumpenis boasts of his hand size, another celeb tries to walk back his own claim of his physique:

Hulk Hogan admits during Gawker trial he lied about the size of his penis

Hulk Hogan had 24-inch pythons — but he didn’t have a 10-inch penis.

The wrestler admitted on the witness stand Tuesday that he’d exaggerated the size of his manhood, while an attorney for Gawker sought to make the case the wrestler’s boorish bragging indicated he’d chosen to make his private life public.

“I do not have a 10-inch penis, I do not, seriously. Terry Bollea’s penis is not 10 inches,” Hogan said, using his real name.

[…]

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 1:18:25am

100% of the vote in, Trump wins with 5677 votes.

Given 11 delegates from that exercise, that means each delegate represents 546 Hawaiians

Meanwhile, in Michigan, Cruz got 17 delegates for approx. 328,482 voters, or each delegate represents 19,322 Michiganders.

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Kragar  Mar 9, 2016 • 1:27:25am

re: #125 freetoken

That will cost him a place in Trump’s cabinet

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Mar 9, 2016 • 1:47:12am

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

Oh gee let me find my nano-violin:

I’m sorry but if you choose to enable fascism you don’t get to act surprised when it turns on you.

There’s a mention of the encounter up on Breitbart now, with an editor’s note:

POLITICO: Trump Campaign Manager Gets Rough with Breitbart Reporter

Editors Note:

“It’s obviously unacceptable that someone crossed a line and make physical contact with our reporter. What Michelle has told us directly is that someone “grabbed her arm” and while she did not see who it was, Ben Terris of the Washington Post told her that it was Corey Lewandowski. If that’s the case, Corey owes Michelle an immediate apology.” - Larry Solov, Breitbart News CEO and President

What has made this truly surreal is that the commenters are almost entirely Trump fans and are turning their bigoted ire toward the reporter, going full anti-Semitic and sexist in the process.

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Ming5000  Mar 9, 2016 • 1:47:29am

To those who thought the 2014 Bundy Ranch incident was forgotten by the federal authorities, please peruse the attached (in the OregonLive article) government motion for pretrial detention of Pete Santilli. The motion contains a good rundown of what happened and a lot of information about Santilli.
By the time of the Malhuer incident I did not know anything about Santilli except that he was a “media guy”.
Feds describe Pete Santilli as a “shill” for Cliven Bundy in 2014 standoff in Nevada

What Santilli did in Oregon pales by comparison to his acts in the Nevada precursor.

We acknowledge that United States District Judge Anna J. Brown has agreed to release Santilli in connection with his indictment in this district in United States v. Bundy, et al., 3:16-CR-00051-BR (D. Or.). The Oregon Indictment charges a single count of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 372, in connection with the recent armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. When she made her ruling, however, Judge Brown specifically stated that she was not taking into account the facts surrounding the armed assault against federal agents which is the subject of the Superseding Indictment in the District of Nevada. Because the facts in the pending Nevada case independently justify Santilli’s detention as a danger to the community and a flight risk, for the Court’s consideration in this hearing the government submits the following.

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Alyosha  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:27:10am

re: #124 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

What a bullshit talking point. Whether we’re at war with a country we’re killing people in has nothing to do with whether we should be doing that.

Glenn has confused Somalia with a fully-functional state. Ignoring the threat al-Shabab poses to what precious little security Mogadishu has scraped together really shows what his priorities are.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:36:13am

re: #113 Alyosha

How do you know you live in a militaristic empire? When your Gov kills 150 people in a country you’re not at war with & barely anyone blinks

Wait, he suddenly dislikes Putin’s Russia?/

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:38:32am

re: #118 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Oh God, this WSJ guy is such an idiot. It’s not “faith” that the Sun will rise tomorrow. It’s Bayesian probabilistic thinking.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:43:23am

great time burner: musiclab.chromeexperiments.com

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:44:43am

Basically what I wrote earlier: those are Milo’s target audience.

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Alyosha  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:50:19am

re: #131 Nyet

Wait, he suddenly dislikes Putin’s Russia?/

Who the fuck knows at this point? Maybe he became a pacifist while no one was paying attention.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:56:52am

How utterly and completely insane the GOP is in Virginia:

The Senate Courts of Justice Committee nominated former Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli for a state Supreme Court seat, according to Senate Republicans, according to CBS 6 .

The state Senate will back the conservative politician’s nomination, but the GOP majority plan was to nominate Appeals Court Judge Rossie Alston, according to Daily Press reporter Travis Fain.

Cuccinelli has been nominated to a seat currently filled by Governor Terry McAuliffe’s recess appointment. McAuliffe’s appointment of Supreme Court Justice Jane Marum Roush has lapsed.

wtkr.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 3:59:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:00:36am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:02:14am

re: #132 Nyet

Oh God, this WSJ guy is such an idiot. It’s not “faith” that the Sun will rise tomorrow. It’s Bayesian probabilistic thinking.

I remember when the WSJ, though conservative editorially, was at least intelligent and reputable. Now it’s a more famous version of International Business Daily.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:03:30am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was a similar explosion in NYC a few months back, for the same reason.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:07:32am

Those Bratfrat commenters are eating their own, wrt Trump and their own reporter.

Couldn’t happen to a more appropriate cornucopia of slugs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:07:47am
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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:09:06am

OK, this article by Graeme Wood discusses the meaning of “Rum” (not, not rum) in ISIS’ interpretation of Islam:

theatlantic.com

What I’m surprised about is that while the two natural interpretations (literal Rome; the Second Rome - Byzanthium, and Turkey as its successor) have currency, the third one - Russia, the self-styled Third Rome (as well as a self-styled successor to the Byzanthine Empire) - isn’t, although it would also fit the picture.

Then there could be the fourth interpretation: the collective “Rum” represents all the Romes above.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:09:43am

re: #141 freetoken

Those Bratfrat commenters are eating their own, wrt Trump and their own reporter.

Couldn’t happen to a more appropriate cornucopia of slugs.

She’s a Cruzbot, not one of theirs.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:11:02am

re: #144 Nyet

She’s a Cruzbot, not one of theirs.

slugs…snails… hard to tell them apart just by their slime trails.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:23:17am
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Alyosha  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:24:53am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:35:08am

Amusing advertisement on Drudge vs. his headline.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:40:10am

re: #136 Timothy Watson

How utterly and completely insane the GOP is in Virginia:

wtkr.com

I saw that. Agh, another reason why state elections are important.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:41:26am

So another bad night for Marco. Sucks to be him.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:44:46am

re: #134 Nyet

Basically what I wrote earlier: those are Milo’s target audience.

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Milo is targeting shapiro & crowder?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:54:21am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

Milo is targeting shapiro & crowder?

I think it’s an “alt-right” thing, but I’ve not paid them much attention.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:55:08am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

Milo is targeting shapiro & crowder?

Over Trump.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:56:27am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

I saw that. Agh, another reason why state elections are important.

Don’t blame me, I voted for a Democrat wrote-in Ham Sandwich.

(No Democratic candidate has ran in my Senate district in forever.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 4:58:52am

re: #154 Timothy Watson

Don’t blame me, I voted for a Democrat wrote-in Ham Sandwich.

(No Democratic candidate has ran in my Senate district in forever.)

Ham Sandwich has integrity and isn’t divisive so easy vote there.

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Alyosha  Mar 9, 2016 • 5:03:28am

Over here the reputable media has framed the primaries of the day just gone as simply a consolidation of the respective front-runners’ already-considerable leads.
No biggie ;)
Night, all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 5:16:17am

fun google doodle today

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 5:40:20am

Good Morning, Lizards.

I’m saddened to wake up to the news that Sir George Martin has passed. Martin’s portfolio is as weighty as anyone in modern music. He broke tremendous ground with The Beatles, of course - every album revealed a new innovation, a new twist on established procedures, a new way of production that is still a template for how things are done.

But of all the amazing work he produced, this remains my favorite.

In 1974, Martin corralled the wild artistry of Jeff Beck, sending his work in a brand new direction and kicking his career to another entire level. This track closed the groundbreaking ‘Blow By Blow’ album, and Martin’s gorgeous contrapuntal string arrangement steals the show, even in the face of Beck’s beautifully sensitive playing.
The orchestra is so good, Beck even sits out the last refrain and lets Martin’s strings wash over the listener one more time. It never fails to move me to tears with its elegant simplicity. Even now.

Well done, Sir. Well done, indeed.

Jeff Beck / Diamond Dust (Vinyl)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 5:53:00am

I missed this yesterday morning:

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 5:55:44am

G’ Morning.

I was reading some of the previous thread and I saw some folks talking about Bernie hanging in until it is finally decided for Clinton. I think they are forgetting about the huge amounts of money Bernie supporters are sending his way. There have been claims of 40 million bucks collected in February. With his win last night there will be more. And that alone will keep him running.

And it is being emphasized right here in Ohio. Bernie is running tons of commercials in the Columbus market. Tons. I am not even paying real close attention and I have seen/heard five commercials so far this morning. The heat is on in Ohio. The Berners are turned up to 11.

I heard Hillary is leading in Ohio polling 53% to 46% and I am not sure when those polls were taken, but it would not surprise me if they get closer after last night’s Bernie win in Michigan.

Big Bill Clinton is going to be at Hillary’s downtown campaign headquarters today for what is being called an organizing event. A bit later he will be in Dayton for the Montgomery County Frolic for Funds Fundraiser at the Dayton Convention Center. I expect Hillary will be here sometime between today and Tuesday’s election too, but nothing arranged so far.

I don’t think I can remember a Democratic primary that is being worked as hard as this one is. Ohio…one more time is the battleground state. October and November are going to be pure hell as far as advertising and campaign stops.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 5:57:29am

re: #160 ObserverArt

G’ Morning.

I was reading some of the previous thread and I saw some folks talking about Bernie hanging in until it is finally decided for Clinton. I think they are forgetting about the huge amounts of money Bernie supporters are sending his way. There have been claims of 40 million bucks collected in February. With his win last night there will be more. And that alone will keep him running.

And it is being emphasized right here in Ohio. Bernie is running tons of commercials in the Columbus market. Tons. I am not even paying real close attention and I have seen/heard five commercials so far this morning. The heat is on in Ohio. The Berners are turned up to 11.

I heard Hillary is leading in Ohio polling 53% to 46% and I am not sure when those polls were taken, but it would not surprise me if they get closer after last night’s Bernie win in Michigan.

Big Bill Clinton is going to be at Hillary’s downtown campaign headquarters today for what is being called an organizing event. A bit later he will be in Dayton for the Montgomery County Frolic for Funds Fundraiser at the Dayton Convention Center. I expect Hillary will be here sometime between today and Tuesday’s election too, but nothing arranged so far.

I don’t think I can remember a Democratic primary that is being worked as hard as this one is. Ohio…one more time is the battleground state. October and November are going to be pure hell as far as advertising and campaign stops.

I don’t see any reason for him to stay in once she’s clinched the nom. Anyhow it’s going to be interesting to see what happens next week.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:05:41am

re: #161 HappyWarrior

I don’t see any reason for him to stay in once she’s clinched the nom. Anyhow it’s going to be interesting to see what happens next week.

If Bernie keeps doing as well as he did in Michigan, it may take until June for Clinton to clinch the nomination.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:06:46am

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

If Bernie keeps doing as well as he did in Michigan, it may take until June for Clinton to clinch the nomination.

Yeah that’s true. Anyhow it was a good showing for him all in all.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:07:04am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So, tell me, who won the primaries last night.

If you said Bernie, you would be wrong. He still lost, despite winning in Michigan in an upset.

How is this possible? Simple.

To riff on Meghan Trainor, it’s all about the delegates. It’s all about the delegates.

And Hillary won more of them last night than Bernie did.

So, how is it that Bernie managed to beat Hillary in Michigan despite polls saying Hillary would cruise to a win?

This still only delays the inevitable. Hillary’s still running nearly 2:1 in overall delegate count. She’s up more than 200 in the non-super delegate category.

Over on the GOP side? It’s all Trump. All the time. But the most hilarious thing was that he decided to troll with providing a bunch of Trump-labeled food products at his presser last night.

Of course, on closer inspection, pretty much every single thing offered was BS.

The beef was sourced from someone other than Trump (his steaks went defunct years ago). The water was bottled by someone else who has no problem with sticking a Trump label on branded bottled water that they also sell to gas stations. The wine is the closest thing to the Trump brand, but that’s due to being owned by his son Eric.

On and on it goes, and where it stops? No one knows. Rubio’s toast, losing to a guy who doesn’t even know that he stopped running. The GOP is turning into a 2-way race between Cruz and Trump, and it’s an entirely predictable shit show for the “establishment” - they’ve got two loathsome characters who leadership of the party can’t stand. But they’ll stand by them nonetheless because they all agree on substance, it’s the style they can’t stand.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:07:12am

re: #158 makeitstop

Good Morning, Lizards.

I’m saddened to wake up to the news that Sir George Martin has passed. Martin’s portfolio is as weighty as anyone in modern music. He broke tremendous ground with The Beatles, of course - every album revealed a new innovation, a new twist on established procedures, a new way of production that is still a template for how things are done.

But of all the amazing work he produced, this remains my favorite.

In 1974, Martin corralled the wild artistry of Jeff Beck, sending his work in a brand new direction and kicking his career to another entire level. This track closed the groundbreaking ‘Blow By Blow’ album, and Martin’s gorgeous contrapuntal string arrangement steals the show, even in the face of Beck’s beautifully sensitive playing.
The orchestra is so good, Beck even sits out the last refrain and lets Martin’s strings wash over the listener one more time. It never fails to move me to tears with its elegant simplicity. Even now.

Well done, Sir. Well done, indeed.

[Embedded content]

Jeff Beck - Cause We’ve Ended As Lovers

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:07:23am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

Milo is targeting shapiro & crowder?

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LastYearsMan  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:07:29am

For what it’s worth, 538 has Clinton running well ahead of target for the nomination. And at 62% support in Ohio, with a 99% chance of winning the state.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:09:57am

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

If Bernie keeps doing as well as he did in Michigan, it may take until June for Clinton to clinch the nomination.

The polls are still against him, so I wouldn’t expect that to happen. And no, a one time fluke doesn’t mean we can abandon polls which worked pretty good before. If an upset on March 15 happens, then yes, the error will have been systemic, but right now it’s a fluke.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:11:06am

re: #164 lawhawk

I just keep meeting Dems in MI who say Hillary has the primary locked, so they cast anti-Trump votes for Kasich.
6:18 PM - 8 Mar 2016

Some Dems are as dumb as wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:11:19am

I don’t understand the Dems that are crossing over. Just sounds so stupid to me. I’d almost get it if the Dem race was like in 2012 when Obama had no opposition but come on.

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Tigger2  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:11:37am

re: #164 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So, tell me, who won the primaries last night.

If you said Bernie, you would be wrong. He still lost, despite winning in Michigan in an upset.

How is this possible? Simple.

To riff on Meghan Trainor, it’s all about the delegates. It’s all about the delegates.

And Hillary won more of them last night than Bernie did.

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This still only delays the inevitable. Hillary’s still running nearly 2:1 in overall delegate count. She’s up more than 200 in the non-super delegate category.

Over on the GOP side? It’s all Trump. All the time. But the most hilarious thing was that he decided to troll with providing a bunch of Trump-labeled food products at his presser last night.

Of course, on closer inspection, pretty much every single thing offered was BS.

The beef was sourced from someone other than Trump (his steaks went defunct years ago). The water was bottled by someone else who has no problem with sticking a Trump label on branded bottled water that they also sell to gas stations. The wine is the closest thing to the Trump brand, but that’s due to being owned by his son Eric.

On and on it goes, and where it stops? No one knows. Rubio’s toast, losing to a guy who doesn’t even know that he stopped running. The GOP is turning into a 2-way race between Cruz and Trump, and it’s an entirely predictable shit show for the “establishment” - they’ve got two loathsome characters who leadership of the party can’t stand. But they’ll stand by them nonetheless because they all agree on substance, it’s the style they can’t stand.

I wish they would stop the open primaries. It opens up the chance for to much manipulation.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:12:24am

re: #169 Nyet

Some Dems are as dumb as wingnuts.

I saw some people I know talking about doing that here in Virginia. The way I look at is if the Republicans are going to be stupid and make Trump their nominee, let them. build their own grave without our help.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:12:35am

re: #171 Tigger2

I wish they would stop the open primaries. It opens up the chance for to much manipulation.

Yep. Open primaries are a dumb idea in the first place.

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LastYearsMan  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:12:55am

re: #171 Tigger2

I wish they would stop the open primaries. It opens up the chance for to much manipulation.

As a non-American, it does blow my mind that parties let non-members vote for their candidates.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:13:01am

re: #171 Tigger2

I wish they would stop the open primaries. It opens up the chance for to much manipulation.

I’m slowly coming around on that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:14:58am

I have to admit open primaries are my preference since it’s what I’m used to but I understand what is being said here about non-party members having a big input in who another party nominates.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:15:38am

re: #168 Nyet

The polls are still against him, so I wouldn’t expect that to happen. And no, a one time fluke doesn’t mean we can abandon polls which worked pretty good before. If an upset on March 15 happens, then yes, the error will have been systemic, but right now it’s a fluke.

But I wouldn’t assume its a fluke. It doesn’t seem unreasonable that Bernie can run even with Hillary outside the South by winning about a third of the black vote and most of the white vote. He isn’t going to be the nominee, but with the donations he’s getting he can keep the race going all the way to the end, just like Hillary did in 2008.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:15:41am

re: #169 Nyet

Meanwhile, Shaun King continues to plow the Bernie-bro line. This is a typical post:

In the general election, Hillary is likely to win many of the states she lost in the primary, and lose states she won. That’s because of different demos and constituencies.

But if you think that Hillary would lose NY, NJ, CT, VT, or NH, or MA, because she loses those states to Bernie in the primaries (or might lose/come close to losing), you’re off your rocker.

NY has a 2:1 D to GOP advantage. NJ is similarly disposed, and right now the GOP in NJ is in disarray thanks to a MIA Gov. Christie.

King should stick to writing about the police brutality beat; he’s clueless on politics, let alone primary politics.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:17:08am

re: #165 BeenHereAwhile

‘Blow By Blow’ and ‘Wired’ literally changed Beck’s career. He went from being That Dude Who Replaced Clapton In The Yardbirds to a jazz-rock heavyweight.

Beck may have been heading in that direction anyway, but Martin provided the sonics that put those records over the top.

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Tigger2  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:17:29am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

I have to admit open primaries are my preference since it’s what I’m used to but I understand what is being said here about non-party members having a big input in who another party nominates.

It makes me wonder how many Republicans voted for Bernie because they think he will be more easy to defeat in the General.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:17:57am

re: #174 LastYearsMan

As a non-American, it does blow my mind that parties let non-members vote for their candidates.

To me it makes sense to let independents vote. After all, you are going to have to win their votes to win the general. And some states don’t have registration to vote by party.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:18:39am

re: #180 Tigger2

It makes me wonder how many Republicans voted for Bernie because they think he will more easy to defeat in the General.

I have no idea.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:20:38am

re: #177 Big Beautiful Door

Polls don’t come from the ether and do show the actual level of support, but do not necessarily predict the actual last-minute-intent to vote. So right now it’s reasonable to assume that it’s a fluke with the Dem Hillary supporters shooting themselves in the foot by crossing over. If the other Dems learn this lesson, this might not repeat. If and when it does, some other explanation will have to be found and the current polling models abandoned as flawed.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:21:57am

I think a competitive primary is a good thing all in all truthfully.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:22:07am
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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:22:08am

re: #178 lawhawk

Shaun has never let facts get in front of an agenda.
He was pretty notorious at dkos for his misleading headlines which he rarely corrected.

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Great White Snark  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:22:19am

re: #174 LastYearsMan

As a non-American, it does blow my mind that parties let non-members vote for their candidates.

Even in our voting system we are Americans first, all encouraged to participate.

What system are you accustomed to?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:23:28am

re: #183 Nyet

Polls don’t come from the ether and do show the actual level of support, but do not necessarily predict the actual last-minute-intent to vote. So right now it’s reasonable to assume that it’s a fluke with the Dem Hillary supporters shooting themselves in the foot by crossing over. If the other Dems learn this lesson, this might not repeat. If and when it does, some other explanation will have to be found and the current polling models abandoned as flawed.

There are a number of scenarios which could be true. Only further voting will tell us for sure. One thing is certain, Sanders isn’t withdrawing from this race anytime soon, and Hillary can’t really argue he should, since she wouldn’t quit in 2008.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:23:47am

re: #178 lawhawk

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:24:15am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:24:41am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

I think a competitive primary is a good thing all in all truthfully.

It worked for the Democrats in 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:25:10am

re: #186 Nyet

Shaun has never let facts get in front of an agenda.
He was pretty notorious at dkos for his misleading headlines which he rarely corrected.

You and Kyls did mention that. Honestly, I just don’t think this is helpful. There are some states that Bernie has won that are even less Democratic in a GE than what Hillary has won but I’m not going to trash them or say their delegates don’t matter. To honestly answer his question though I think Hillary wins Iowa, Massachusetts, and Virginia in a GE. Also Nevada which he neglected to mention.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:25:16am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

I think a competitive primary is a good thing all in all truthfully.

Well, in this situation it’s not quite bad I guess. If the GOP were unified behind a single candidate by this time, that wouldn’t have been optimal, but seeing as they have their own problems, the Dems have time.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:26:18am

re: #191 Big Beautiful Door

It worked for the Democrats in 2008.

I really think it made Obama a better candidate. To use a sports analogy, it’s like when you have a competitive division, you’re better prepared for the grind of the playoffs than if you just coast.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:26:27am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

NeriumLos
@Karoli @bulldoghill why vote for Hillary as a Bernie supporter? I don’t vote for lesser of 2 evils. If so I vote trump. Hillary is corrupt.

The kind of “thinking” one might expect from someone who fell for the Nerium MLM———selling toxic oleander lotion as an anti-aging skin treatment and getting others to do likewise. Nerium folks are nuts.

This person may well just simply be a Trump supporter to begin with.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:27:01am

re: #193 Nyet

Well, in this situation it’s not quite bad I guess. If the GOP were unified behind a single candidate by this time, that wouldn’t have been optimal, but seeing as they have their own problems, the Dems have time.

Oh yeah for sure. I mean the GOP have power brokers openly hoping for a brokered convention to stop the current frontrunner. Whatever problems the Dems have, the Republicans have a lot more.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:27:21am

re: #193 Nyet

Well, in this situation it’s not quite bad I guess. If the GOP were unified behind a single candidate by this time, that wouldn’t have been optimal, but seeing as they have their own problems, the Dems have time.

Considering that if the GOP nominee isn’t Trump it will probably be Cruz, I’d say the Democrats’ problems are minor in comparison.

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:27:41am

re: #180 Tigger2

It makes me wonder how many Republicans voted for Bernie because they think he will be more easy to defeat in the General.

Probably not many. Definitely not enough to swing the result of any primary. There’s a couple of reasons - most people don’t think like that because they’re not political junkies who would do that sort of thing. The rank and file (of both parties) will probably vote in their own primaries and that’s about it. Second, the GOP has a contested primary this year, so Republican voters are going to be much more inclined to vote in their own primaries.

In fact, taking a quick look at CNN’s exit polls, it looks like self identified Republicans in open primaries for the Democrats never topped 3%.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:27:51am

What sampling methods are used by the various polling organizations? Do they all rely on cold calls? So many people filter calls with caller ID and voice mail that it could be hard to get a truly random sample.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:27:52am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Hillary supporters would appreciate if she could go with a Mortal Kombat finishing move right about now. End this. Do so to end to drama and Bernie-bro BS.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:28:10am

re: #136 Timothy Watson

Just stay on your side of the Potomac and all is good…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:28:41am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:29:18am

re: #197 Big Beautiful Door

Considering that if the GOP nominee isn’t Trump it will probably be Cruz, I’d say the Democrats problems are minor in comparison.

Yeah if not Trump, it’s going to be Cruz and people are not going to like that guy once they really get to know him. He’s polling better than Trump right now but I think once America really gets to know Ted Cruz, they’ll want him on the next ship back to Canada. Well not literally but he may worry me in some ways less than Trump as a GE candidate since his views are going to a lot of people off.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:29:30am

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

The polling largely worked before.

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KGxvi  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:31:38am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

I really think it made Obama a better candidate. To use a sports analogy, it’s like when you have a competitive division, you’re better prepared for the grind of the playoffs than if you just coast.

In 2000, Bradley was basically a token opponent for Gore, and that turned out badly. I think the only time you don’t want a competitive primary is when an incumbent is running for reelection - that tends to spell doom in the general (see Carter 1980 and Bush 1992 as the most recent examples).

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:31:39am

re: #204 Nyet

The polling largely worked before.

Sometimes polls are just wrong. In Kentucky last Fall no published poll showed Republican Matt Bevin crushing Jack Conway like he did.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:32:32am

re: #205 KGxvi

In 2000, Bradley was basically a token opponent for Gore, and that turned out badly. I think the only time you don’t want a competitive primary is when an incumbent is running for reelection - that tends to spell doom in the general (see Carter 1980 and Bush 1992 as the most recent examples).

Right. I agree with this.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:34:08am

Anyone want to speculate on if Rubio will withdraw this week? I’m betting he plays it out and hopes lightening strikes for him in Florida like it did for Bernie in Michigan. But man, Rubio had a bad night; only the most delusional could think he has any shot left at the nomination now.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:37:05am

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

Sometimes polls are just wrong. In Kentucky last Fall no published poll showed Republican Matt Bevin crushing Jack Conway like he did.

Yes, because polls are probabilistic. The point is, it doesn’t make sense to question the methods in the middle of the game after a single data point. They have worked before, so the methods were adequate.

Now, if it happens again, and again, and again, then we’ll do wtf together.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:37:10am

re: #179 makeitstop

‘Blow By Blow’ and ‘Wired’ literally changed Beck’s career. He went from being That Dude Who Replaced Clapton In The Yardbirds to a jazz-rock heavyweight.

Beck may have been heading in that direction anyway, but Martin provided the sonics that put those records over the top.

If you have listened to the “Jeff Beck Group” album (with the orange on the front) you can sort of hear where Jeff was going to be headed in his career. It came out in ‘72 and the last cut on the album hints at his future.

By the way…RIP George Martin. You added so much to modern music and made people realize that rock-n-roll pop music could be serious too what with your adding classic instruments and arrangements to rock/pop songs. You did way more than what you will get credit for. A great career.

Jeff Beck Group - Definitely Maybe

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:39:26am

re: #186 Nyet

Shaun has never let facts get in front of an agenda.
He was pretty notorious at dkos for his misleading headlines which he rarely corrected.

And he is not going to be changing anytime soon since he seems to get a lot of attention which keeps him in gigs.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:42:13am

BTW, notice something? Trump and the rest haven’t even started with Sanders. It’s all Hillary all the time.

If we suppose that Sanders wins the nomination, it will be red-baiting time all the time, and all the polls that show today that Sanders wins handily over the whole GOP slate won’t mean a thing. With Hillary, she’s already been through the kitchen sink. Bernie has had it easy all the time.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:43:57am

re: #210 ObserverArt

If you have listened to the “Jeff Beck Group” album (with the orange on the front) you can sort of hear where Jeff was going to be headed in his career. It came out on ‘72 and the last cut on the album hints at his future.

By the way…RIP George Martin. You added so much to modern music and made people realize that rock-n-roll pop music could be serious too what with your adding classic instruments and arrangements to rock/pop songs. You did way more than what you will get credit for. A great career.

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Good call. That lineup of the Beck Group included Max Middleton, who factored heavily on ‘Blow By Blow.’

Having said that, the album after that one was Beck, Bogert & Appice - so even if he was heading towards jazz-rock, he still had a little power trio to get out of his system first. :)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:44:13am

re: #212 Nyet

BTW, notice something? Trump and the rest haven’t even started with Sanders. It’s all Hillary all the time.

If we suppose that Sanders wins the nomination, it will be red-baiting time all the time, and all the polls that show today that Sanders wins handily over the whole GOP slate won’t mean a thing. With Hillary, she’s already been through the kitchen sink. Bernie has had it easy all the time.

This is entirely correct, and why all the hypothetical head-to-head polls showing Bernie easily winning in November are meaningless, except they provide fodder for Bernie’s campaign.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:44:27am

re: #212 Nyet

BTW, notice something? Trump and the rest haven’t even started with Sanders. It’s all Hillary all the time.

If we suppose that Sanders wins the nomination, it will be red-baiting time all the time, and all the polls that show today that Sanders wins handily over the whole GOP slate won’t mean a thing. With Hillary, she’s already been through the kitchen sink. Bernie has had it easy all the time.

I don’t know if I can take all the hand motions if Trump and Bernie go at it.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:46:27am
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A Mom Anon  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:48:30am

re: #195 KerFuFFler

Just as an aside, Nerium is the name of a marketing scam line of “beauty products” made from oleander (which is also part of the plant’s latin name). 150 dollars for a bottle of lotion. My sister (who has MS, is a wingnut and has no money, without my parents’ help, I have no clue how she’d survive) is deep into this and in turn, my parents have been financing this. To the tune of a couple grand as of right now. By either meaning, nerium is toxic.

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Tigger2  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:49:39am

re: #216 lawhawk

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:50:39am

Dumb Dems are Dumb.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:51:34am

re: #217 A Mom Anon

Just as an aside, Nerium is the name of a marketing scam line of “beauty products” made from oleander (which is also part of the plant’s latin name). 150 dollars for a bottle of lotion. My sister (who has MS, is a wingnut and has no money, without my parents’ help, I have no clue how she’d survive) is deep into this and in turn, my parents have been financing this. To the tune of a couple grand as of right now. By either meaning, nerium is toxic.

Is this the “Mom’s Weird Trick to Stop Wrinkles” scam?

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:51:38am

The Executive editor & chief content officer of @Mashable
SMH

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:51:39am

So basically Silver led to a Bernie win, in a roundabout way.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:51:47am

re: #216 lawhawk

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See, weapons of mass destruction. In Iraq. I told you guys, been tellin ya for years, haven’t I?

/Nothing but a good time.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:52:47am

re: #212 Nyet

The winguts here in GA are sort of starting. The new meme going around is a Bernie yard sign cut in half with a note replacing the missing half saying “I took half your sign because I didn’t have one, I didn’t think you’d mind”. Get it? Oh How Clever, my stars, how amusing.

They can’t even tell you what the word socialism means, but ooooh it’s soooo bad.

I need a vacation from this fucking place.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:53:11am

re: #223 Dark_Falcon

See, weapons of mass destruction. In Iraq. I told you guys, been tellin ya for years, haven’t I?

/Nothing but a good time.

Ah yes, George Bush was a real prophet and knew about ISIS all the time./

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:53:31am

re: #221 FormerDirtDart

The Executive editor & chief content officer of @Mashable
SMH

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you just knew it was going to happen.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:53:38am

re: #213 makeitstop

Good call. That lineup of the Beck Group included Max Middleton, who factored heavily on ‘Blow By Blow.’

Having said that, the album after that one was Beck, Bogert & Appice - so even if he was heading towards jazz-rock, he still had a little power trio to get out of his system first. :)

I consider that his makeup for when he was going to work with Bogert and Appice earlier but got into his nasty car crash and was laid up. As we have discussed Bogert and Appice went on to work with Jimmy McCarty and formed Cactus. Beck had to make a power album to show he could hang.

I caught Beck Bogert & Appice here in Columbus in ‘73. It was fun seeing him, but truthfully it wasn’t his best work. And it was a strange show. Opening act was Brownsville Station out working “Smoking in the Boys Room” and they actually has more energy. I’ll never forget Cub Koda strutting around with his coke bottle glasses. Good times.

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Tigger2  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:54:42am

re: #219 Nyet

Dumb Dems are Dumb.

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Dem’s better stop trying to be tricky we have to much to lose.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:55:30am

I’ve never read anything by Martin and have never watched the series, and even I know how he looks like.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:55:54am

re: #208 Big Beautiful Door

Anyone want to speculate on if Rubio will withdraw this week? I’m betting he plays it out and hopes lightening strikes for him in Florida like it did for Bernie in Michigan. But man, Rubio had a bad night; only the most delusional could think he has any shot left at the nomination now.

It’s not just that Trump is winning, however improbable that seemed for so long. It’s that Trump is winning and just eviscerating his opponents. He pretty much got rid of Jeb over the Summer with that one quip about “low energy”. Jeb basically never competed in any of the contests once voting started. And now, Rubio, Little Marco, who has collapsed like a concrete block dropped into a kiddie pool.

And it hardly seems as if Trump is really even trying.

Jeb, Marco, Perry, Jindal, Walker, these were, or were thought to be, capable politicians, most of whom had won re-election in their states. And Trump—who apparently does not even have a polling operation—has just flattened them.

Yes, it may say something about how weak the GOP field really was. But if Jeb or Rubio had won the nomination, either would have put Florida in play for the general election. Same with Kasich in Ohio. So despite the field’s now apparent weakness, it’s far from clear to me that Hillary would have beaten most of them decisively.

Not panicking. Yet. But Trump will be a tougher out in the general than I once imagined. And he’d be tougher than Cruz, who I think Hillary actually would crush.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:56:11am

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t think so, Nerium comes off like it’s a Woman Owned Business, but it’s just another scheme, like Amway. You only make money if you get other people to join. The stuff is just stupid expensive, like I said, a 12 ounce bottle of lotion is 150 dollars. The messed up thing is my sister can’t even afford the product she’s selling, and she’s got a bunch of boxes of it stacked in her garage. She’s not rich and doesn’t know too many people who are. She got pissed at me when I told her to be careful, a friend of hers is supposedly making a ton of money off it and she fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Sigh.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:56:57am

re: #227 ObserverArt

I’ll never forget Cub Koda strutting around with his coke bottle glasses. Good times.

And his referee shirt! heh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:57:07am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

I think a competitive primary is a good thing all in all truthfully.

Competitive yes, petty and backbiting, no.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:57:30am

OK, BBL it’s time to run the kid to work.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:57:45am

And for those who missed the announcement, Donald Trump’s 2nd ex, Marla Maples, is one of this season’s contestants on Dancing With the Stars. This does of course mean her daughter with The Donald, Tiffany Trump will be in the audience at times to cheer her mom on.

I expect this to be played for effect better than the Palin family played Bristol’s appearance on the same show, if only because Ms. Maples, her ex husband and their daughter have IQs above room temperature.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 6:57:47am

re: #217 A Mom Anon

Just as an aside, Nerium is the name of a marketing scam line of “beauty products” made from oleander (which is also part of the plant’s latin name). 150 dollars for a bottle of lotion. My sister (who has MS, is a wingnut and has no money, without my parents’ help, I have no clue how she’d survive) is deep into this and in turn, my parents have been financing this. To the tune of a couple grand as of right now. By either meaning, nerium is toxic.

I’ve never heard of the product till now, but I know well the kind of MLM scam you speak of. I have heard all kinds of MLM pitches, and they all boil down to “We’ve got this super product that will sell like hotcakes once people hear about it, and you’ll be rich, rich, rich! All you need to do is sign up at least three people under you and buy a garage full of our product to sell.”

Health and beauty products are the prime culprits. All the MLM creators need is some offbeat ingredient on which to base their product line, some clever formulations and a lot of glitzy marketing. Nu Skin and Melaleuca are prime examples.

China banned MLMs outright in 1998. Some still function though with bank accounts in Hong Kong.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:00:51am

Lots of polls out this morning, but nothing very revelatory. Same old news - Trump leads in FL and OH, by pretty much what the previous polls indicated.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:02:43am

Regardless of the polls, the talking point against Hillary right now is EMAILS! , if the Faux News and various websites are accurate gauges.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:03:08am

Thanks to everyone who mentioned Jeff Beck here. I hadn’t listened to his music for ages, and I had forgotten what a true master he is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:03:58am

Aren’t Donald Trump’s nonsense suits the reason for anti-SLAPP laws?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:04:46am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

Aren’t Donald Trump’s nonsense suits the reason for anti-SLAPP laws?

All the justice money can buy…

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:05:03am

re: #237 freetoken

Lots of polls out this morning, but nothing very revelatory. Same old news - Trump leads in FL and OH, by pretty much what the previous polls indicated.

He’s only ahead of Kasich by 6 points, which is a closable gap. Rubio, though, seems dunzo. So now I have to decide between Kasich and Cruz for the primary.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:05:40am

re: #238 freetoken

Regardless of the polls, the talking point against Hillary right now is EMAILS! , if the Faux News and various websites are accurate gauges.

Emails and Benghazi will be the continuing RWNJ themes until at least 2020. Yes, I anticipate another President Clinton in the White House.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:06:27am

re: #239 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks to everyone who mentioned Jeff Beck here. I hadn’t listened to his music for ages, and I had forgotten what a true master he is.

I’m delving heavily into ‘Blow By Blow’ and ‘Wired’ today. Martin’s influence on Beck’s career from those albums forward is immeasurable. Beck has taken elements of those albums, and Martin’s application of restraint on his playing, and still uses them now.

George Martin taught Beck that it was okay not to play everything at once.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:06:37am

re: #236 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’ve never heard of the product till now, but I know well the kind of MLM scam you speak of. I have heard all kinds of MLM pitches, and they all boil down to “We’ve got this super product that will sell like hotcakes once people hear about it, and you’ll be rich, rich, rich! All you need to do is sign up at least three people under you and buy a garage full of our product to sell.”

Health and beauty products are the prime culprits. All the MLM creators need is some offbeat ingredient on which to base their product line, some clever formulations and a lot of glitzy marketing. Nu Skin and Melaleuca are prime examples.

China banned MLMs outright in 1998. Some still function though with bank accounts in Hong Kong.

Yeah I was in Amway for a bit. They also really push for you to buy motivational tapes (back then it was cassette tapes, don’t know about now) every week, and to go to these giant conferences a few times a year to hear more motivational stuff.

Obviously many people have done well with it. And the people you meet at the conferences and other meetings are well-dressed, well-spoken, family oriented. But most are wingnuts and the groupthink involved is just beyond the stars. I couldn’t have continued without selling my soul, so to speak.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:06:53am

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

So now I have to decide between Kasich and Cruz for the primary.

Hobson, choices, and all that jazz…

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:07:03am

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

Aren’t Donald Trump’s nonsense suits the reason for anti-SLAPP laws?

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Not all states have strong anti-SLAPP laws and someone with good lawyers can at times tailor the lawsuit to avoid weaker anti-SLAPP laws. And if anti-SLAPP doesn’t stop a lawsuit, then as the saying goes, the process is the punishment.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:08:12am

re: #230 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It’s not just that Trump is winning, however improbable that seemed for so long. It’s that Trump is winning and just eviscerating his opponents. He pretty much got rid of Jeb over the Summer with that one quip about “low energy”. Jeb basically never competed in any of the contests once voting started. And now, Rubio, Little Marco, who has collapsed like a concrete block dropped into a kiddie pool.

And it hardly seems as if Trump is really even trying.

Jeb, Marco, Perry, Jindal, Walker, these were, or were thought to be, capable politicians, most of whom had won re-election in their states. And Trump—who apparently does not even have a polling operation—has just flattened them.

Yes, it may say something about how weak the GOP field really was. But if Jeb or Rubio had won the nomination, either would have put Florida in play for the general election. Same with Kasich in Ohio. So despite the field’s now apparent weakness, it’s far from clear to me that Hillary would have beaten most of them decisively.

Not panicking. Yet. But Trump will be a tougher out in the general than I once imagined. And he’d be tougher than Cruz, who I think Hillary actually would crush.

I appreciate your take. However Trump has weaknesses that other Republicans can’t effectively attack but that a Democrat can. The primary weakness is racism, which I believe will drive a very high Hispanic, African-American, Asian, Jewish and Muslim turnout to vote against Trump. Another is Trump’s plan to give a multi-trillion dollar tax cut to the super-rich, which the other Republicans can’t attack because they all plan to give a multi-trillion dollar tax cut to the super-rich. I believe Hillary will defeat Trump handily, and would also defeat Cruz handily if he is the nominee.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:08:51am

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

He’s only ahead of Kasich by 6 points, which is a closable gap. Rubio, though, seems dunzo. So now I have to decide between Kasich and Cruz for the primary.

Really thought Kasich would do better in Michigan. He needed to do better in Michigan. Like Rubio, winning his home state won’t be nearly enough. Unless of course it plays a role in keeping The Donald from getting to 1237. But with Rubio about gone, that’s looking less likely.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:09:20am

In case anyone missed the latest “Join or Die”, it was about failed Presidential campaigns:

“Doomed Presidential Campaigns” Show Open (Episode 4) | Join or Die with Craig Ferguson | History

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:09:44am

So Clinton is over halfway to the required number of delegates to wrap up the nod. When does/should Bernie finally bow out so we [Hillary, Dems, and sane Americans] focus singularly on the Trump shitshow? Will Bernie actually drag this thing out until Hillary finally achieves the magic number?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:10:02am

re: #249 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Really thought Kasich would do better in Michigan. He needed to do better in Michigan. Like Rubio, winning his home state won’t be nearly enough. Unless of course it plays a role in keeping The Donald from getting to 1237. But with Rubio about gone, that’s looking less likely.

I thought Kasich would cut Donald’s margin to single digits in Michigan personally.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:10:19am

re: #251 Dr. Matt

So Clinton is over halfway to the required number of delegates to wrap up the nod. When does/should Bernie finally bow out so we [Hillary, Dems, and sane Americans] focus singularly on the Trump shitshow? Will Bernie actually drag this thing out until Hillary finally achieves the magic number?

I think he’s always intended to do that.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:10:46am

re: #248 Big Beautiful Door

The Dallas Morning news had a front page article yesterday about how Latinos in Texas are finishing their naturalization in order to vote against Trump.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:10:48am

re: #244 makeitstop

I’m delving heavily into ‘Blow By Blow’ and ‘Wired’ today. Martin’s influence on Beck’s career from those albums forward is immeasurable. Beck has taken elements of those albums, and Martin’s application of restraint on his playing, and still uses them now.

George Martin taught Beck that it was okay not to play everything at once.

I’m gonna resume listening to Beck tomorrow. I had some of his albums, but they were lost ages ago. I might have to spend some money on iTunes to replace them now.

Looking over Martin’s bio tonight, I was struck by the idea that he was a teacher as well as a producer. He took young musicians who had raw talent but no experience and made them into polished creative forces. Beck and The Beatles are among the top graduates of the George Martin School of Music.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:11:18am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

I thought Kasich would cut Donald’s margin to single digits in Michigan personally.

One of the latest polls there, or maybe it was the initial exit poll, can’t remember which, had Kasich and Trump essentially tied at 38%. But it was never really close.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:12:13am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

I think he’s always intended to do that.

If so, he’s officially a dudebro douche.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:13:14am

I need to listen to more Jeff Beck. I always liked this song though. George was such a great producer. One of the best who ever lived.

Jeff Beck - Hi Ho Silver Lining

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KerFuFFler  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:13:20am

re: #217 A Mom Anon

Just as an aside, Nerium is the name of a marketing scam line of “beauty products” made from oleander (which is also part of the plant’s latin name). 150 dollars for a bottle of lotion. My sister (who has MS, is a wingnut and has no money, without my parents’ help, I have no clue how she’d survive) is deep into this and in turn, my parents have been financing this. To the tune of a couple grand as of right now. By either meaning, nerium is toxic.

It’s too bad your parents are enabling this self defeating endeavor. Something like 98% of the vendors make less than $1000 a year——-but starry eyed hopefuls (rubes) hear repeatedly the rags to riches outcomes of the handful of people who joined the pyramid scheme early on. Nerium higher-ups organize lots of events to hype these success stories and make their newbies dismissive of “haters” or “dream stealers”———people in their lives who advise caution and skepticism. Nerium tries to keep the rubes on the hook as long as possible and encourage repeating such thoughts as “Quitting is one sure way to fail.”

My spidey sense activated when a “friend” from highschool recently contacted me on facebook. We have both been on facebook for years and never bothered friending each other. Turns out she is tracking down every possible contact trying to expand her Nerium network. So I checked the company out. *shivers*

I did not respond to her ‘Friend’ request.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:13:28am

re: #254 Belafon

The Dallas Morning news had a front page article yesterday about how Latinos in Texas are finishing their naturalization in order to vote against Trump.

The Dallas paper is catching up with The New York Times, which reported that same things a couple of days ago. They expect at least a million new voters by November. And doubt they’re going to vote for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:13:45am

re: #256 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

One of the latest polls there, or maybe it was the initial exit poll, can’t remember which, had Kasich and Trump essentially tied at 38%. But it was never really close.

Right, I was talking about my conception going into that night.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:14:04am

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

He’s only ahead of Kasich by 6 points, which is a closable gap. Rubio, though, seems dunzo. So now I have to decide between Kasich and Cruz for the primary.

They are running pretty evenly, with a slight advantage to Cruz, though Rubio supporters may go to Kasich.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:14:34am

re: #257 Dr. Matt

If so, he’s officially a dudebro douche.

I could well be wrong about FWIW but I think last night’s showing in MI means he’s going to be in for a while longer. Hopefully she does better next week.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:14:47am

It will be interesting to see what the NeverTrump and other groups opposing Trump do now. For the moment, it appears they’re putting all their chips in Florida to try to boost Rubio there and deny Trump delegates. But that seems a little much too late. Illinois, Ohio and Missouri also vote next Tuesday.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:15:06am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:15:44am

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

He’s only ahead of Kasich by 6 points, which is a closable gap. Rubio, though, seems dunzo. So now I have to decide between Kasich and Cruz for the primary.

What’s the polling in Illinois look like?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:16:00am

re: #245 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah I was in Amway for a bit. They also really push for you to buy motivational tapes (back then it was cassette tapes, don’t know about now) every week, and to go to these giant conferences a few times a year to hear more motivational stuff.

Obviously many people have done well with it. And the people you meet at the conferences and other meetings are well-dressed, well-spoken, family oriented. But most are wingnuts and the groupthink involved is just beyond the stars. I couldn’t have continued without selling my soul, so to speak.

My ex tried some MLM things. We’d go to these meetings, and it reminded of going to a Pentecostal church or one of those motivational groups. I can see why a lot of church people get sucked into these schemes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:16:42am

re: #251 Dr. Matt

So Clinton is over halfway to the required number of delegates to wrap up the nod. When does/should Bernie finally bow out so we [Hillary, Dems, and sane Americans] focus singularly on the Trump shitshow? Will Bernie actually drag this thing out until Hillary finally achieves the magic number?

As I said above, Hillary can’t really argue he should, because she dragged it out to the bitter end in 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:16:55am

re: #265 lawhawk

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Someone With Tiny Hands handily wins Mississippi and Michigan.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:17:37am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My ex tried some MLM things. We’d go to these meetings, and it reminded of going to a Pentecostal church or one of those motivational groups. I can see why a lot of church people get sucked into these schemes.

Very Prosperity Gospel oriented. Which was also a problem for me, aside from the political orientation of it.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:17:38am

re: #268 Big Beautiful Door

As I said above, Hillary can’t really argue he should, because she drug it out to the bitter end in 2008.

That is quite true. You know, I do like her but I really wish another candidate had emerged. That said, she’ll easily be the best President of those running.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:18:24am

re: #254 Belafon

The Dallas Morning news had a front page article yesterday about how Latinos in Texas are finishing their naturalization in order to vote against Trump.

It would be nice if Trump had to fight for Texas in the general, but its too much to hope that Hillary might actually win Texas.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:18:39am

re: #251 Dr. Matt

She’s at 770 pledged. Supers should be left out of the equation IMHO since if Sanders began to win, the situation with them wouldn’t be so predictable.

MI upset win gives him the pretext to go until June.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:18:39am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Right, I was talking about my conception going into that night.

Oh yeah mine too.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:18:48am

re: #244 makeitstop

I’m delving heavily into ‘Blow By Blow’ and ‘Wired’ today. Martin’s influence on Beck’s career from those albums forward is immeasurable. Beck has taken elements of those albums, and Martin’s application of restraint on his playing, and still uses them now.

George Martin taught Beck that it was okay not to play everything at once.

I wish I could get some of my friends to appreciate that. For some reason they have to fill every second of a song with something. I kept trying to get them to allow some space in some of our later stuff, but truth be told, I think it pissed them off. It is not like we were getting paid by the note…we weren’t getting paid at all…we did it for fun.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:19:23am

re: #274 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Oh yeah mine too.

Gotcha. Next will be interesting.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:19:24am

re: #264 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I suspect quite a few Republican elected officials are not really so concerned about the office of the President but in how to keep their own office if Trump is top of the ticket.

CBS had a political consultant on last night who services the “conservative” political cottage industry and he was doing his anti-Clinton thing and trying to say that Trump would demolish Hillary… but the other talking hedz were kind of looking at him with that look that says “eyeroll” without actually rolling their eyes.

Cruz beat Trump in MI in the turnout of women.

Think about that for a moment.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:20:10am

Is playing with penny stocks riskier than blackjack?

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KerFuFFler  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:20:27am

re: #267 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My ex tried some MLM things. We’d go to these meetings, and it reminded of going to a Pentecostal church or one of those motivational groups. I can see why a lot of church people get sucked into these schemes.

Lots of people also use the large churches to network and find new “associates”. How could it be a scam if that nice lady from church is involved?//

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Tigger2  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:20:45am
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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:21:28am

If Sanders did begin to win, as unlikely as it would be, I actually do hope that the supers would get out of the people’s way. Bernie is not an optimal candidate, but neither is he Trump (where supers would be useful), so a fair win should be a fair win.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:21:33am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

That is quite true. You know, I do like her but I really wish another candidate had emerged. That said, she’ll easily be the best President of those running.

Yeah it would have better for her to have been pushed, if not from the right, at least from someone not identified as a Democratic Socialist.

But I don’t have a problem with Bernie staying in and making Hillary compete. It will make her a better general election candidate.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:21:48am

re: #268 Big Beautiful Door

As I said above, Hillary can’t really argue he should, because she dragged it out to the bitter end in 2008.

True. But, that race was neck and neck to the [bitter] end. Recall, she did receive more votes overall. Senator Obama won the delegate battle and number of contests. But, I agree she should have “suspended” her campaign a few days earlier after Obama became the presumptive nominee on June 3.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:21:57am

re: #266 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

What’s the polling in Illinois look like?

Trump’s in the lead here, too. That’s why I have to make sure my extended family turns out and votes. Every not-Trump vote is important.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:21:58am

re: #275 ObserverArt

I wish I could get some of my friends to appreciate that. For some reason they have to fill every second of a song with something. I kept trying to get them to allow some space in some of our later stuff, but truth be told, I think it pissed them off. It is not like we were getting paid by the note…we weren’t getting paid at all…we did it for fun.

It’s a hard lesson to learn! Any player’s first instinct is fill up all the spaces.

But the silences between the notes often make the notes much more meaningful. :)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:22:08am

re: #264 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

It will be interesting to see what the NeverTrump and other groups opposing Trump do now. For the moment, it appears they’re putting all their chips in Florida to try to boost Rubio there and deny Trump delegates. But that seems a little much too late. Illinois, Ohio and Missouri also vote next Tuesday.

If nevertrump doesn’t stop Trump on March 15, he will be the nominee. He crushed it last night. Rubio should drop out and endorse Cruz now to stop Trump, since he has no chance of being the nominee.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:22:23am

BBT

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:24:09am

re: #282 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Yeah it would have better for her to have been pushed, if not from the right, at least from someone not identified as a Democratic Socialist.

But I don’t have a problem with Bernie staying in and making Hillary compete. It will make her a better general election candidate.

As I said, it’s alot like sports. The tough grind of the regular season i.e. primary prepares you for the playoffs i.e. GE.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:24:56am

re: #277 freetoken

I suspect quite a few Republican elected officials are not really so concerned about the office of the President but in how to keep their own office if Trump is top of the ticket.

CBS had a political consultant on last night who services the “conservative” political cottage industry and he was doing his anti-Clinton thing and trying to say that Trump would demolish Hillary… but the other talking hedz were kind of looking at him with that look that says “eyeroll” without actually rolling their eyes.

Cruz beat Trump in MI in the turnout of women.

Think about that for a moment.

Trump made a big deal last night of Paul Ryan calling him and them having a TERRIFIC conversation.

Yeah, Trump certainly has liabilities that his fellow GOPers have not been well positioned to exploit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:24:59am

re: #280 Tigger2

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His “manifesto” (PDF)…oh dear…

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:25:31am

re: #283 Dr. Matt

True. But, that race was neck and neck to the [bitter] end. Recall, she did receive more votes overall. Senator Obama won the delegate battle and number of contests. But, I agree she should have “suspended” her campaign a few days earlier after Obama became the presumptive nominee on June 3.

It wasn’t all that neck to neck without MI and FL, but she insisted on including MI and FL votes, her only hope. That was not a fair request since MI and FL votes had been officially barred from the convention at first (Obama was not even on the ballot in MI). So that was a dishonest tactic, but that allowed her to linger that long.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:25:38am

re: #281 Nyet

I will only consider Bernie as having a chance if he wins both FL and OH next week, by more significant margins than last night (where the result couldn’t be called till 97% of the vote was counted.)

Being in California, I vote last. If Hillary has not clinched the nomination through regular delegates and Bernie has real momentum behind him, I will consider voting for him.

But I really do believe the decision will be made before it’s my turn to vote.

Democracy - no, this isn’t really it, when the largest state in the Union and the most powerful Democratic Party in the Union is left out of the choice.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:26:50am

re: #292 freetoken

I will only consider Bernie as having a chance if he wins both FL and OH next week, by more significant margins than last night (where the result couldn’t be called till 97% of the vote was counted.)

Being in California, I vote last. If Hillary has not clinched the nomination through regular delegates and Bernie has real momentum behind him, I will consider voting for him.

But I really do believe the decision will be made before it’s my turn to vote.

Democracy - no, this isn’t really it, when the largest state in the Union and the most powerful Democratic Party in the Union is left out of the choice.

i wonder why CA let themselves have their primary so late. New York is pretty late too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:26:58am

re: #277 freetoken

I suspect quite a few Republican elected officials are not really so concerned about the office of the President but in how to keep their own office if Trump is top of the ticket.

CBS had a political consultant on last night who services the “conservative” political cottage industry and he was doing his anti-Clinton thing and trying to say that Trump would demolish Hillary… but the other talking hedz were kind of looking at him with that look that says “eyeroll” without actually rolling their eyes.

Cruz beat Trump in MI in the turnout of women.

Think about that for a moment.

Hillary is going to blow Trump out with single women, African-Americans, Hispanics, Muslims and Jews. She’ll point out that Trump plans to give a multi-trillion dollar tax cut to the 1% and deprive over 20 million Americans of health insurance. Trump is so polarizing there should be a record turnout.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:27:32am

re: #278 Amory Blaine

Is playing with penny stocks riskier than blackjack?

Not if you spend a penny./

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:28:10am

WATCH: Passenger video shows LaVoy Finicum’s last moments — and demolishes Bundy conspiracies

One of the passengers, Shawna Cox, recorded cell phone video that authorities showed during a Tuesday news conference announcing the results of their investigation.

“You back down or you kill me now,” Finicum shouted at Oregon State Police before fleeing the traffic stop. “This is going to get real! You want my blood on your hands?”

“You want a blood bath? It’s going to be on your hands. We’re going to see the sheriff,” Finicum said.

Authorities stopped another car filled with armed militants who had been occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Reserve, but they agreed to surrender peacefully.

RAW Bundy Oregon Protester LaVoy Finicum Take Down (3-8-16)

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Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:29:13am

Need to try something new, working hard and playing by the rules isn’t working out so well.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:29:41am

As a now-registered Democrat in California, I find it more than a bit queer that Democrats in Alabama, a state most unlikely to be carried by the contemporary Democratic party, get to make the decision on the Democrat candidate at a critical point in the process, but the Democrats in the largest state with the Democrats with the deepest pockets and largest number of votes… are not really given a choice.

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Tigger2  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:30:09am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

His “manifesto” (PDF)…oh dear…

He looks about the right age when Schizophrenia kicks in for some people. I had a good friend that happen to around that age.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:30:47am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

His “manifesto” (PDF)…oh dear…

I’ve always wanted to have a manifesto….

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:31:27am
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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:31:29am

re: #292 freetoken

Not sure that “left out of the choice” accurately describes the situation.

The only difference between stretching the primaries in time and them taking place all simultaneously is the “momentum” and such stuff - some votes movement does happen within the timeframe.

But the CA votes (or any state’s votes) could just as easily be analyzed into irrelevancy with simulprimaries. Just say “the candidate X could win this, this and this state and clinch the nomination, those other states wouldn’t matter”. And it would still be as democratic as the current process.

So it’s more a matter of psychology than anything.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:31:30am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

i wonder why CA let themselves have their primary so late. New York is pretty late too.

Our June Primary ballot is usually loaded with lots of stuff and many candidates. It’s actually an election that includes more than just the Presidential nomination for a party.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:31:40am

re: #292 freetoken

I will only consider Bernie as having a chance if he wins both FL and OH next week, by more significant margins than last night (where the result couldn’t be called till 97% of the vote was counted.)

Being in California, I vote last. If Hillary has not clinched the nomination through regular delegates and Bernie has real momentum behind him, I will consider voting for him.

But I really do believe the decision will be made before it’s my turn to vote.

Democracy - no, this isn’t really it, when the largest state in the Union and the most powerful Democratic Party in the Union is left out of the choice.

We have a May primary in Kentucky so we have rarely cast a meaningful primary vote either. Looks like it will be this year, like in 2008.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:32:05am

Morning Lizards. Don’t know whether to laugh or cry with cruz winning Idaho. 45.42% to tRumps 28.08%

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:32:09am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:32:33am

re: #300 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I’ve always wanted to have a manifesto….

Most ours would be: Wake up, shower, go to work, come home, go to bed. Rinse and repeat.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:32:37am

re: #303 freetoken

Our June Primary ballot is usually loaded with lots of stuff and many candidates. It’s actually an election that includes more than just the Presidential nomination for a party.

Ah okay that does make sense why it’s so late then.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:32:44am

WTF just had some rando show up in my mentions claiming to be a “personal friend” of Richard Dawkins and how dare I call him a sexist (based on some Tweets from like 8 weeks ago)

Blocked & muted now.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:32:56am

re: #305 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. Don’t know whether to laugh or cry with cruz winning Idaho. 45.42% to tRumps 28.08%

I saw that coming. Thought it’d be closer though.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:34:26am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

WTF just had some rando show up in my mentions claiming to be a “personal friend” of Richard Dawkins and how dare I call him a sexist (based on some Tweets from like 8 weeks ago)

Blocked & muted now.

Some people are just begging to be blocked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:34:49am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Most ours would be: Wake up, shower, go to work, come home, go to bed. Rinse and repeat.

Mine is mostly “wake up”.
If I manage that, I consider the day a complete success…

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:09am

re: #301 Lidane

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Are Breitbart and Trump breaking up? Or is this just a lovers’ spat?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:15am

I don’t tweet. Just not my thing. I just remember being spooked when strangers started following me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:37am

re: #313 Big Beautiful Door

Are Breitbart and Trump breaking up?

I think they’ve been. I wish I knew over what though.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:58am

Carly endorses Cruz.

It’s on the Twitter.

Carly probably cancels out Santorum’s endorsing Rubio (which looks pretty dumb now, Rick).

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Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:36:12am

re: #298 freetoken

As a now-registered Democrat in California, I find it more than a bit queer that Democrats in Alabama, a state most unlikely to be carried by the contemporary Democratic party, get to make the decision on the Democrat candidate at a critical point in the process, but the Democrats in the largest state with the Democrats with the deepest pockets and largest number of votes… are not really given a choice.

Are you interested in a house-swap for a nice 3-bedroom brick? Low taxes!!

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:36:22am

For example, come June 7th, I get to vote on Proposition 50:

I didn’t even know this thing existed until I just now looked at the ballot website.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:37:17am

re: #305 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards. Don’t know whether to laugh or cry with cruz winning Idaho. 45.42% to tRumps 28.08%

I guess Trump supporters didn’t leave their bunkers to go vote in Idaho.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:37:29am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

I knew when I mentioned Alabama it might tingle some ears…

Nothing against Alabama or all you Democrats fighting against the machine there.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:39:24am

re: #319 Big Beautiful Door

I guess Trump supporters didn’t leave their bunkers to go vote in Idaho.

No, the Threeper/CWII types despise Trump as Big Government, they’re really anarchist at heart.

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iossarian  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:40:14am

re: #319 Big Beautiful Door

I guess Trump supporters didn’t leave their bunkers to go vote in Idaho.

Too busy throwing footballs over the nearest mountain and eating Tater Tots.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:41:00am

I wonder how Alabama Democrats feel in November when their vote appears to make zero difference to the presidential contest. Maybe we should just freeze them out of the process entirely. I bet that would totally help us shore up shaky gerrymandered districts and maybe retain or expand control of some state legislatures.

SMH

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:42:15am

re: #311 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Some people are just begging to be blocked.

Speaking of which, this just showed up in my mentions. It must be my lucky day!

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Bubblehead II  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:42:36am

re: #319 Big Beautiful Door

I guess Trump supporters didn’t leave their bunkers to go vote in Idaho.

But the bible thumpers came out in force. Butch (the gay) Otter must be deeply disappointed that Kasich (who he endorsed) only got 7.45% of the vote.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:42:52am

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of which, this just showed up in my mentions. It must be my lucky day!

Very patriot much America!

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:43:09am

Your Republican front-runner:

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Testy Toad T  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:45:07am

re: #327 Lidane

Your Republican front-runner:

[Embedded content]

Mexico sends us only the worst of their worst, the criminals, the rapists. I wish they’d stop having such a severely deleterious effect on our country that we find ourselves wanting a hundred-billion-dollar wall. I wonder how I can make them stop effecting this low-level impact.

I know, I’ll go to war with them!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:45:20am

re: #324 The Vicious Babushka

Speaking of which, this just showed up in my mentions. It must be my lucky day!

[Embedded content]

Proud that his ancestors fought the US but probably gets his panties in a twist over the flag and accuses Obama of not loving America.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:45:30am

re: #164 lawhawk

I just keep meeting Dems in MI who say Hillary has the primary locked, so they cast anti-Trump votes for Kasich.

That’s why I keep telling people Every. Vote. Counts.

I hate this primary game playing. Maybe I am just too honest, but I didn’t believe in Operation Chaos when Limbaugh proposed it and I don’t believe this is the way to go now - or ever.

When I was younger I never voted in primaries. I always voted in the generals, though. I figured I wasn’t as knowledgeable as people who followed politics closer than I did back then. I can still justify that. But there’s no way, for me, to justify primary games.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:45:32am

re: #296 Dr. Matt

WATCH: Passenger video shows LaVoy Finicum’s last moments — and demolishes Bundy conspiracies

[Embedded content]

FYI. Start watching the video at 11:40. Outstanding investigation. The restraint law enforcement gave Finicum is something else.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:45:32am

re: #327 Lidane

Your Republican front-runner:

[Embedded content]

It’s been done, and not forgotten:

Conmemoración de la Batalla de Churubusco. Banda del Batallón de San Patricio.

Note the bullet spalling on the wall.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:46:00am

re: #325 Bubblehead II

But the bible thumpers came out in force. Butch (the gay) Otter must be deeply disappointed that Kasich (who he endorsed) only got 7.45% of the vote.

I was surprised Otter endorsed Kasich but granted I know nothing about Idaho politics.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:46:17am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

Proud that his ancestors fought the US but probably gets his panties in a twist over the flag and accuses Obama of not loving America.

I blocked and muted, did not even bother to look at its timeline.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:47:09am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

I was surprised Otter endorsed Kasich but granted I know nothing about Idaho politics.

All I know is Otter was once a Congress-critter, so he probably knew Kasich from when he was AN ESTABLISHMENT GUY IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:47:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:48:03am

“There have been incidents of children, white children, pointing to their darker-skinned classmates and saying, ‘You’ll be deported when Donald Trump is president.’ There have been incidents of white kids at basketball games holding up signs to teams which have Hispanic kids on them, saying, ‘We’re going to build a wall to keep you out,’” Roberts asked Trump on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Are you proud of that? Is that something you’ve done in American political and social discourse that you’re proud of?”

“Well, I think your question is a very nasty question,” Trump replied. “And I’m not proud of it because I didn’t even hear of it, okay? And I don’t like it at all when I hear about it. You’re the first one whose told me about it.”

Roberts told the frontrunner that such incidents been reported “in many newspapers,” but he continued on.

“I’m not proud of it at all and that’s not the purpose of it is. We want to make America great again,” he said. “We want to bring back industry. We want to bring back our jobs from China and Japan and by the way, Mexico, which has taken so many of our jobs. I have not heard about these instances.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:48:13am

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

I blocked and muted, did not even bother to look at its timeline.

Not suggesting you do. Just a funny dynamic.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:48:38am

re: #335 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

All I know is Otter was once a Congress-critter, so he probably knew Kasich from when he was AN ESTABLISHMENT GUY IN THE ESTABLISHMENT.

That was my only guess too.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:50:05am

re: #211 ObserverArt

And he is not going to be changing anytime soon since he seems to get a lot of attention which keeps him in gigs.

That’s what I noticed about Shaun. He is all about him.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:52:43am

re: #331 Dr. Matt

FYI. Start watching the video at 11:40. Outstanding investigation. The restraint law enforcement gave Finicum is something else only a white man would complain about.

FTFY

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:52:52am

The HillDem crossover was doubly dumb because the Dem primaries are not winner-take-all and every delegate counts.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:53:19am

re: #327 Lidane

Your Republican front-runner:

[Embedded content]

And he’ll get another bump in the polls. Good article here about how the GOP Establishment radicalized the GOP base. They have no-one to blame for Trump but themselves.
vox.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:53:19am

re: #342 Nyet

The HillDem crossover was doubly dumb because the Dem primaries are not winner-take-all and every delegate counts.

Incredibly. I do not get these voters at all.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:53:55am

Both Florida polls out this morning show Hillary as twice as popular as Bernie:

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:54:43am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

Incredibly. I do not get these voters at all.

A lot of people are so terrified of Trump possibly winning I guess they thought it was worth it to try to stop him. Obviously didn’t work in Michigan.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:54:56am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

I was surprised Otter endorsed Kasich but granted I know nothing about Idaho politics.

Otter is what you could probably call a sane Republican. He knows there is no way Kasich is going to get the nomination and therefore endorsing him was safe.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:55:29am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

Are you interested in a house-swap for a nice 3-bedroom brick? Low taxes!!

I know, right. I would give him a pretty nice house here in Texas if he’d like to switch. And heck, Texas has the added benefit of being part of Super Tuesday.

Bitching about being in a blue state that is being properly run by its leaders.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:55:34am

I hope Hillary makes the point forcefully: vote in the Dem primaries, whether for her or for Bernie, don’t try to game the system.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:55:51am

re: #341 Belafon

FTFY

Yeah. Good point. I was thinking the same thing. One of the LEOs even had a taser trained on him and was about to deploy that. But, after Finicum reached for his pocket for the 4th time, the other two LEOs decided to use lethal force. No minority would have been provided such restraint.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:55:59am

re: #343 Big Beautiful Door

And he’ll get another bump in the polls. Good article here about how the GOP Establishment radicalized the GOP base. They have no-one to blame for Trump but themselves.
vox.com

Good piece.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:56:05am

re: #342 Nyet

The HillDem crossover was doubly dumb because the Dem primaries are not winner-take-all and every delegate counts.

Do we have any data on how many did this?

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:56:14am

re: #345 freetoken

Both Florida polls out this morning show Hillary as twice as popular as Bernie:

[Embedded content]

And, you won’t be seeing any crossover anti-Trump voting in Florida’s closed primaries

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sagehen  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:56:17am

re: #174 LastYearsMan

As a non-American, it does blow my mind that parties let non-members vote for their candidates.

Should I assume you’re from a country with a parliamentary system? Dozens of parties, each of whom has a homogenous set of beliefs that all its members agree with 95% of their platform?

The US only has 2 parties with a realistic chance of getting their candidates into high office; most Americans looking at the party platforms agree with 60% of one party’s platform, and 30% of the other party’s.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:57:34am

re: #352 Belafon

Do we have any data on how many did this?

NATE SILVER 9:34 PM
Michigan has open primaries, and it appears as though some voters who were interested in both races wound up voting on the GOP side. According to exit polls, 7 percent of Michigan Republican primary voters were Democrats; by contrast, 3 percent of voters in the Michigan Democratic primary were Republicans.

+ lots of anecdotal data

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:58:47am

*headdesk*

They’re suing for emails AFTER Hillary left office. That’s how desperate they’ve gotten.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:59:22am

re: #301 Lidane

Top Trump aide allegedly strong-arms Breitbart reporter after presser

That particular Trump thug is a real piece of work.

Trump seems to like having reprobates on his campaign staff.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:59:26am

re: #355 Nyet

And probably a healthy chunk of indies in the Michigan Dem race. It still looks to me like if you’re a long-term Democratic supporter, you’re very probably a Clinton voter rather than a Sanders one.

Which, well, kinda duh.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 7:59:44am

re: #355 Nyet

NATE SILVER 9:34 PM
Michigan has open primaries, and it appears as though some voters who were interested in both races wound up voting on the GOP side. According to exit polls, 7 percent of Michigan Republican primary voters were Democrats; by contrast, 3 percent of voters in the Michigan Democratic primary were Republicans.

+ lots of anecdotal data

Thanks for the info. Gotta wonder how many of them were Clinton supporters versus “I like what Trump is saying” types.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:00:27am

re: #356 Lidane

*headdesk*

They’re suing for emails AFTER Hillary left office. That’s how desperate they’ve gotten.

But but I’ve had lots of Sanders supporters explain to me in excruciating detail how the FBI indictment of Clinton is just around the corner. One wonders why they’d feel the need, oh wait no one doesn’t.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:01:44am

re: #359 Belafon

I suspect a lot were Trumpers, but here’s where the anecdotal data comes into play - lots of folks saying they know folks who thought Hillary had the nomination locked so they decided to vote for Kasich. Bloody gits.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:01:54am

The last time a Republican carried Michigan was 1988.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:02:40am

Look at this punchable face:
rawstory.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:07:16am

You know how Trump punctuates every sentence with OK? Like he thinks it’s a period or something OK? It’s annoying, OK? It’s very, very annoying, OK?

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:07:41am

re: #363 Nyet

The writer of that story pushes one of my buttons:

Boch, the head of the Massachusetts-based car distribution empire Boch Enterprises, appeared Tuesday night on the Fox Business Network to explain why Trump should be in charge of the country.

That’s just false.

The President is in charge of the Executive Branch of the Federal government.

That is all.

Oh, yes, said President gets to do other things like picking a sports league commissioner and such niceties, but those things are more for cultural reasons.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:08:09am

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

This pleading ignorance of every negative about his campaign is getting really tiring.

If Trump is such a leader of men, why the fuck doesn’t he actually do something about this shit?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:09:49am

You know that gunfucking mom who was shot by her toddler? She tweeted shit like this==>

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sagehen  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:10:27am

re: #298 freetoken

As a now-registered Democrat in California, I find it more than a bit queer that Democrats in Alabama, a state most unlikely to be carried by the contemporary Democratic party, get to make the decision on the Democrat candidate at a critical point in the process, but the Democrats in the largest state with the Democrats with the deepest pockets and largest number of votes… are not really given a choice.

California and New York have huge delegations; if the candidates are within 15% of each other at that stage of the process, CA and NY could throw it either way.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:11:21am
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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:14:27am

So this is making the rounds on my FB feed today:

Facebook Post

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:14:31am

re: #354 sagehen

Should I assume you’re from a country with a parliamentary system? Dozens of parties, each of whom has a homogenous set of beliefs that all its members agree with 95% of their platform?

The US only has 2 parties with a realistic chance of getting their candidates into high office; most Americans looking at the party platforms agree with 60% of one party’s platform, and 30% of the other party’s.

We could change our system to make a multiparty system possible without amending the Constitution, which at this point looks like a good idea to me. This could be done by electing half of the House of Representatives by proportional representation. It could even lead to the end of divided government by having the President elected more often than not by Congress, which is what I think the writers of the Constitution intended, since if the current parties broke up into three or more near equal parties it would be less likely that a Presidential candidate would get the majority of the electoral college.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:15:22am

re: #217 A Mom Anon

Just as an aside, Nerium is the name of a marketing scam line of “beauty products” made from oleander (which is also part of the plant’s latin name). 150 dollars for a bottle of lotion. My sister (who has MS, is a wingnut and has no money, without my parents’ help, I have no clue how she’d survive) is deep into this and in turn, my parents have been financing this. To the tune of a couple grand as of right now. By either meaning, nerium is toxic.

I came across this post on how to deal with family members caught up in MLMs. Seemed like pretty good advice———avoiding overt skepticism, angry confrontations and declarations of “I told you so” so that the victim still feels the loving (emotional) support of their family. Don’t use the word ‘scam’. If people come across as too negative the victim may draw away from “the haters” and be even more emotionally dependent on the organization. This here seemed like a tactful way of avoiding financial investment——-If your family member tries to recruit you into the MLM scam simply say “Your business opportunity is not a good fit for me.” If they are persistent say, “I would rather not discuss this now - let’s talk about something else. I don’t want to argue.” And “I am glad to have this time with you and let’s enjoy it.”

Mom Anon, best of luck helping your sister out of this mess. I hope the post I linked helps you and your parents chart a course for supporting your sister without bankrupting the family.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:15:31am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

You know how Trump punctuates every sentence with OK? Like he thinks it’s a period or something OK? It’s annoying, OK? It’s very, very annoying, OK?

Mkay.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:15:58am

re: #364 The Vicious Babushka

You know how Trump punctuates every sentence with OK? Like he thinks it’s a period or something OK? It’s annoying, OK? It’s very, very annoying, OK?

OK, I’ve noticed…OK?

This I can tell you…OK?

I’m glad he can tell us. I hope the American people tell him to piss off. OK?

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:16:39am

re: #371 Big Beautiful Door

There is nothing in our Constitution that requires a two party system. We do that more out of institutional habit than anything else.

In many parts of this country there is only one functioning political party, the other national party being pretty much sidelined as irrelevant. So much so that some elections go unopposed.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:17:53am

re: #228 Tigger2

Dem’s better stop trying to be tricky we have to much to lose.

Time to pimp my page. Please tweet/share on Facebook if you agree.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:18:03am

A judge has denied bail for a New Hampshire man accused of being a mid-level organizer in a high-profile 2014 armed standoff with federal agents at the Nevada ranch of Cliven Bundy.

Jerry DeLemus was ordered on Tuesday to remain jailed pending trial in connection with the standoff, which began when federal agents seized cattle at the ranch over unpaid grazing fees.

snip

In denying bail, U.S. District Court Judge Andrea Johnstone said DeLemus’ actions at the Bundy ranch indicated he could “pose a serious danger to the community if released.”

DeLemus’ attorney, Jonathan Saxe, had argued that while DeLemus held right-wing political beliefs, he was law-abiding and devoutly religious and had sought to bring a peaceful resolution to the standoff.

“The government knows he’s not dangerous because he’s been out for two years and he’s been in communication with the FBI,” Saxe said at a court hearing on Monday.

DeLemus, co-chair of the New Hampshire Veterans for Trump…

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:18:12am

re: #375 freetoken

In many parts of this country there is only one functioning political party, the other national party being pretty much sidelined as irrelevant. So much so that some elections go unopposed.

Those parts of the country are called Texas.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:18:55am

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

I expect this to be played for effect better than the Palin family played Bristol’s appearance on the same show, if only because Ms. Maples, her ex husband and their daughter have IQs above room temperature.

Love that phrasing!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:19:23am

re: #375 freetoken

There is nothing in our Constitution that requires a two party system. We do that more out of institutional habit than anything else.

In many parts of this country there is only one functioning political party, the other national party being pretty much sidelined as irrelevant. So much so that some elections go unopposed.

And that discourages political participation and promotes political cynicism. Imagine a system of proportional representation, in which even if you are in the minority there is a good chance your vote will earn you representation from someone who shares your views.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:19:25am

re: #370 Lidane

So this is making the rounds on my FB feed today:

[Embedded content]

Yeah I saw that. Quite compelling.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:19:42am

re: #372 KerFuFFler

I came across this post on how to deal with family members caught up in MLMs. Seemed like pretty good advice———avoiding overt skepticism, angry confrontations and declarations of “I told you so” so that the victim still feels the loving (emotional) support of their family. Don’t use the word ‘scam’. If people come across as too negative the victim may draw away from “the haters” and be even more emotionally dependent on the organization. This here seemed like a tactful way of avoiding financial investment——-If your family member tries to recruit you into the MLM scam simply say “Your business opportunity is not a good fit for me.” If they are persistent say, “I would rather not discuss this now - let’s talk about something else. I don’t want to argue.” And “I am glad to have this time with you and let’s enjoy it.”

Seems like something the Republicans should have done with Trump supporters.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:20:41am

re: #375 freetoken

This has to do with the stupid and undemocratic electoral college. Which has to do with overrated states’ rights.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:21:41am

re: #380 Big Beautiful Door

And that discourages political participation and promotes political cynicism. Imagine a system of proportional representation, in which even if you are in the minority there is a good chance your vote will earn you representation from someone who shares your views.

That’s part of the pro-gerrymandering argument, at least as I’ve understood it.

Gerrymandering can be used to keep a good ol’ boy network in power, but it can also ensure that the minority at least will always get at least one voice at the table.

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Tigger2  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:21:49am

re: #376 MsJ

Time to pimp my page. Please tweet/share on Facebook if you agree.

I saw your tweet on my page I retweeted it.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:23:50am

I think it would be great if there was a late March “Primary Day in America” where people of both parties all go to the polling places to vote for their favorite party candidate and there can be no cross-over. You have to be registered to your party of choice by the end of February and that is the party you vote for. The voting would be strictly by voting machines/ballots or whatever your state sets up and the process is the same as in the November general elections in the very same polling places.

Yes, that would be ideal.

Can you also imagine the crying that would cause with people like the media and all the pundit/wonk sites that have turned it all into a year-round process that starts one year after the last election? I mean what would Chuck Todd and Joke Scarborough do with all their time?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:24:30am

re: #384 freetoken

That’s part of the pro-gerrymandering argument, at least as I’ve understood it.

Gerrymandering can be used to keep a good ol’ boy network in power, but it can also ensure that the minority at least will always get at least one voice at the table.

Gerrymandering is designed to minimize the out group’s political power and maximize the in group’s. Proportional representation is designed to allow every group the same level of influence their numbers justify.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:25:15am

re: #386 ObserverArt

Yes, that would be ideal.

It would have resulted in Clinton winning almost without opposition in 2008, so I don’t think I can agree with your statement.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:25:51am

Baby Whiplash cracking the whip:

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Dave In Austin  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:26:29am

re: #378 Lidane

Those parts of the country are called Texas.

And this is the result:

Republican Morrow of the Bowl Cut
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:26:32am
Baby Whiplash, the Internet Troll
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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:28:50am

re: #387 Big Beautiful Door

The problem is our laws and traditions about politics are tied to geography. We divvy up political power by geography more so than many contemporary “democratic” nations.

We Americans - we love our geographic boundaries.

A parliamentary system could bring about a more proportional representation, but I give the chances of us adopting that at less than our adopting the metric system.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:29:00am

re: #389 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash cracking the whip:

[Embedded content]

He really is a condescending little asshole. What the fuck has he done so much worthwhile with his life? Oh you write for a publication for the constantly enraged. Try making a honest living for once shitbrain.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:29:14am

re: #388 Testy Toad T

It would have resulted in Clinton winning almost without opposition in 2008, so I don’t think I can agree with your statement.

This is for the future, not for the past. If one does apply it to the past, one cannot be selective and analyze a single primary season, rather one should apply it to all the primary seasons back to the beginning, and then the whole history changes.

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:30:18am

re: #390 Dave In Austin

My very Republican co-workers were beside themselves when that guy won. It’ll be interesting to watch the Travis County GOP in the next few months. They’re going to go to war with each other to keep that guy as marginalized as possible.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:31:17am

re: #375 freetoken

There is nothing in our Constitution that requires a two party system. We do that more out of institutional habit than anything else.

In many parts of this country there is only one functioning political party, the other national party being pretty much sidelined as irrelevant. So much so that some elections go unopposed.

It’s the direct result of a winner-take-all system, an unintended consequence.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:31:19am

I’m wondering if I should tweet that meme to Baby Whiplash, but I’m afraid he might like it.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:31:32am

re: #395 Lidane

My very Republican co-workers were beside themselves when that guy won. It’ll be interesting to watch the Travis County GOP in the next few months. They’re going to go to war with each other to keep that guy as marginalized as possible.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:32:14am

Fine. It guarantees that a candidate who amasses colossal financial backing will be extremely hard to overcome, because there is no feedback mechanism that gets people to start paying attention to any candidate other than the one that will obviously* win.

To hell with Iowa, but Iowa (or some preferably-more-representative state) is cheap enough that a relatively less well funded candidate can still spread their message wide and deep among a smaller cohort and the rest of us can see how well that resonates, rather than getting swamped with ad buys all at once.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:33:00am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let’s not forget his wife who is a freaking elected official lying about Obama and her role in politics.

The whole family is nuts.

rawstory.com

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:33:03am

re: #398 Dave In Austin

Haha, pretty much. We’re going to have to stock up:

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:33:34am

re: #399 Testy Toad T

Should it apply to the presidential elections?

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:34:07am

re: #388 Testy Toad T

It would have resulted in Clinton winning almost without opposition in 2008, so I don’t think I can agree with your statement.

This is probably true. But then, if the practice was different everything would have been different so to me it is hard to really know how it would have turned out. We have gotten used to the way things are done for so long it is hard to see it another way.

Maybe a tight process would make the debates and all the rallies and speeches all that more important. It might be less costly too. Maybe it would take out some of the bullshit because the candidates would have to get right to the point and not play sections of the country differently as they go along. This is one country after all, and maybe a one day primary would make it all for one.

Just tossing around some different thinking for discussion.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:34:21am
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Testy Toad T  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:34:56am

re: #402 Nyet

Should it apply to the presidential elections?

Just as soon as you can have a presidential election with a ten- or fifty-to-one fundraising advantage on one side, sure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:35:00am

re: #356 Lidane

*headdesk*

[Embedded content]

They’re suing for emails AFTER Hillary left office. That’s how desperate they’ve gotten.

They have no choice but to commence impeachment proceedings before she is even elected…

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:35:52am

What an utter fuckbag shitgoblin our Baby Whiplash is==>

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:37:23am

re: #386 ObserverArt

I think it would be great if there was a late March “Primary Day in America” where people of both parties all go to the polling places to vote for their favorite party candidate and there can be no cross-over. You have to be registered to your party of choice by the end of February and that is the party you vote for. The voting would be strictly by voting machines/ballots or whatever your state sets up and the process is the same as in the November general elections in the very same polling places.

Yes, that would be ideal.

Can you also imagine the crying that would cause with people like the media and all the pundit/wonk sites that have turned it all into a year-round process that starts one year after the last election? I mean what would Chuck Todd and Joke Scarborough do with all their time?

States would never go for it. The early states get way too much money to let it go.

But in an ideal world, absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:37:29am

Coming from the guy who repeatedly dehumanizes people that’s pretty fucking rich.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:38:15am

re: #375 freetoken

There is nothing in our Constitution that requires a two party system. We do that more out of institutional habit than anything else.

That and the fact that our current electoral system makes the rise of a major third or fourth party nearly impossible.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:40:12am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That and the fact that our current electoral system makes the rise of a major third or fourth party nearly impossible.

In the past 100 years third parties have only served to act as spoilers for one or the other major party.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:40:54am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Prominent Hagel Detractor Endorses Fascistic Vision of Israel

Shapiro is a literal neo-fascist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:41:04am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:44:40am

re: #412 Nyet

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Prominent Hagel Detractor Endorses Fascistic Vision of Israel

Shapiro is a literal neo-fascist.

My shocked face.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:45:13am

Many of us have pointed out that as it becomes inevitable that Trump will be the Republican nominee that many Republicans will go through an acceptance process and indeed not turn on Trump but go along with him.

And this morning we see that at…. National Review, the very outlet that Trump trashed at his presser/celebration last night:

Michigan Shows Trump Could Redraw Electoral Map vs. Clinton

[…]

The GOP establishment envisioned a path to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue this fall that ran through diverse states and newly engaged urban centers. They hoped that rather than trying to further run up the vote with whites, their eventual nominee would woo minorities, particularly Hispanics, in hopes of taking back states such as Florida (29 electoral votes), Virginia (13), Colorado (9), and Nevada (6). Some combination of those, on top of perennial must-win Ohio, would be sufficient to win back the White House.

Trump is taking precisely the opposite path. And after Tuesday’s Republican and Democratic primary elections in Michigan, there’s cause to believe he could actually be successful.

That’s by their chief political correspondent. Not hits against Trump in the article, just a fantasy that Trump could indeed win against the Democrats.

In the end, the inner-bigot of NR will find actualization through Donald Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:45:30am

I dunno. I think why so few third parties have emerged is that most third parties aren’t practical. It’s all or nothing with them.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:46:17am

re: #415 freetoken

Many of us have pointed out that as it becomes inevitable that Trump will be the Republican nominee that many Republicans will go through an acceptance process and indeed not turn on Trump but go along with him.

And this morning we see that at…. National Review, the very outlet that Trump trashed at his presser/celebration last night:

Michigan Shows Trump Could Redraw Electoral Map vs. Clinton

That’s by their chief political correspondent. Not hits against Trump in the article, just a fantasy that Trump could indeed win against the Democrats.

In the end, the inner-bigot of NR will find actualization through Donald Trump.

NR will be praising Trump’s business acumen and anti-PC attitude by summer’s end.

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:46:40am

Working in a dog friendly office is great 99% of the time. Rainy days are the other 1%.

It’s raining outside. The smell of wet dog abounds.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:46:51am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:48:51am

I’m going to guess that the “Trump Modeling” contract also implied that models might have a chance at the next “Mrs. Trump” gig if they provide a little appetizer.

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ObserverArt  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:51:13am

re: #419 The Vicious Babushka

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Did the young ladies rush off to the rest room or dressing rooms to wash their mouths out and wipe off their lips after that photo was taken?

Oh the stuff models have to do. Ugh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:53:18am

re: #421 ObserverArt

Did the young ladies rush off to the rest room or dressing rooms to wash their mouths out and wipe off their lips after that photo was taken?

Oh the stuff models have to do. Ugh.

Donald probably had “Prima Nochte” for the Miss Universe contestants.
(I just threw up in my mouth)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:53:49am

ooops!!!

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:54:28am

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

I’m going to guess that the “Trump Modeling” contract also implied that models might have a chance at the next “Mrs. Trump” gig if they provide a little appetizer.

Well, if you’re not constantly interviewing, you never know if you have the best piece of ass talent.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:55:12am

Trumphumpers are the stupidest shitballs on the planet.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:56:01am

This will be fodder for Trump:

Man Suspected of Killing 5 in Missouri, Kansas Captured

A Mexican national suspected of killing his neighbor and three other men at his neighbor’s Kansas home before killing another man about 170 miles away in Missouri was arrested early Wednesday, authorities said.

Pablo Antonio Serrano-Vitorino was captured without resisting shortly before 12:30 a.m. Wednesday following a manhunt. He was found hiding face-down in a ditch about two or three miles from the scene of the last killing, which happened Tuesday morning at a rural home near the small community of New Florence, Missouri, said Lt. Paul Reinsch of the Missouri State Highway Patrol. He had a rifle with him, he said.

[…]

Serrano Vitorino is in the country illegally, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said in a statement. He was deported from the U.S. in April 2004 and illegally re-entered the country on an unknown date. ICE said it would place a detainer on Serrano-Vitorino.

[…]

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:56:17am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I think why so few third parties have emerged is that most third parties aren’t practical. It’s all or nothing with them.

Actually, it’s rather simple to show why we only have two major parties.

There are two groups, exactly opposite on all of the issues, and lets say they are the same size. Add one more person, who really only cares about one issue. How would this person vote? If she really cares about the issue, then voting for herself won’t help, because there’s not enough of her to overcome the size of the groups. So she chooses the party that matches her on that issue.

Give everyone the spectrum of issues they care about, with the spread of intensities that everyone has. We’re still going to group in such a way that our most important issues are reinforced by the group we’re in, because attempting to have two groups that are similar but don’t work together gets the other group elected. See Maine’s governor election, for instance.

We actually also see it in a parliamentary system, though not at the level of the voters. There can only be one Prime Minister, and so the elections produce individual groups that form coalitions, which leads to a main and opposition groups.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:57:56am

re: #426 freetoken

This will be fodder for Trump:

Man Suspected of Killing 5 in Missouri, Kansas Captured

Add yet another ten feet to the wall!!!

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:58:29am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

ooops!!!

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Comments. Sheesh.

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iossarian  Mar 9, 2016 • 8:59:41am

re: #426 freetoken

This will be fodder for Trump:

Man Suspected of Killing 5 in Missouri, Kansas Captured

Only Americans are allowed to kill other Americans! It’s in the Bible.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:00:03am

re: #423 Backwoods_Sleuth

When your own video is used against you in a court of law… You built that.

The Bundy nuts should be going away for the rest of their lives.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:00:19am

re: #427 Belafon

Actually, it’s rather simple to show why we only have two major parties.

There are two groups, exactly opposite on all of the issues, and lets say they are the same size. Add one more person, who really only cares about one issue. How would this person vote? If she really cares about the issue, then voting for herself won’t help, because there’s not enough of her to overcome the size of the groups. So she chooses the party that matches her on that issue.

Give everyone the spectrum of issues they care about, with the spread of intensities that everyone has. We’re still going to group in such a way that our most important issues are reinforced by the group we’re in, because attempting to have two groups that are similar but don’t work together gets the other group elected. See Maine’s governor election, for instance.

We actually also see it in a parliamentary system, though not at the level of the voters. There can only be one Prime Minister, and so the elections produce individual groups that form coalitions, which leads to a main and opposition groups.

True good point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:01:29am

CHARLESTON, W. Va. (WSAZ) — In the weeks after passing a bill, allowing West Virginians to drink raw milk, one delegate brought the drink in to celebrate and, eventually, several lawmakers have gotten sick.

Some lawmakers say it’s just a coincidence and a stomach bug is going around.

But, now, health officials are planning on looking in to how this all started.

An anonymous complaint is in at the state Department of Health and Human Resources.

And now, state health officials have to investigate why at least one person is saying the raw milk was given illegally and got these lawmakers sick.

However, other delegates, like Pat McGeehan (R - Hancock, 01), who is quite sick himself, say that recent stomach bug has been making the rounds for weeks.

“There’s definitely…some other colleagues that have similar symptoms that I’ve been experiencing,” McGeehan said.

But the timing is coincidental.

McGeehan and some other lawmakers drank raw, unpasteurized, milk to celebrate the passing of a bill that makes it legal before getting sick.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:02:02am

This fucker thinks Teh Juice have hoarded up all the delicious briskets.

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KingKenrod  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:02:16am

re: #426 freetoken

This will be fodder for Trump:

Man Suspected of Killing 5 in Missouri, Kansas Captured

ICE actually had the guy set up for deportation 6 months ago but screwed up his paperwork and failed to take custody of him from local authorities.

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iossarian  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:03:20am

re: #435 KingKenrod

ICE actually had the guy set up for deportation 6 months ago but screwed up his paperwork and failed to take custody of him from local authorities.

Obviously we should be increasing government funding so that the people responsible for this work are more qualified and under less pressure to process cases quickly.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:03:20am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

No Soup Brisket For You.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:04:02am

re: #435 KingKenrod

ICE actually had the guy set up for deportation 6 months ago but screwed up his paperwork and failed to take custody of him from local authorities.

Which just means Trump would have those ICE people executed for not performing. It wouldn’t be You’re Fired, it would be You’re Being Fired Upon.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:04:03am

Brisket is quite good. Did not know of its Jewish origins until VB told me.

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iossarian  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:04:57am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

This fucker thinks Teh Juice have hoarded up all the delicious briskets.

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The last thing Erick needs is brisket.

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KingKenrod  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:05:20am

re: #436 iossarian

Obviously we should be increasing government funding so that the people responsible for this work are more qualified and under less pressure to process cases quickly.

Get Mexico to pay for it! Simple!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:07:20am

re: #439 HappyWarrior

Brisket is quite good. Did not know of its Jewish origins until VB told me.

Because of the requirements of kosher slaughter and preparation, the cuts of meat on the rear parts of the animal are not used. This leaves the brisket as the most popular cut of kosher meat. And now that it has become so popular among BBQ lovers, the price of kosher corned beef, pastrami and roast brisket has gone through the stratosphere, even causing many popular kosher delis to close down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:08:26am

Kentucky again…sigh

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Lidane  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:08:35am
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BeachDem  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:09:06am

re: #342 Nyet

The HillDem crossover was doubly dumb because the Dem primaries are not winner-take-all and every delegate counts.

The only bright spot I can see is that maybe the HillDems in the upcoming states will see the folly in crossing over and in thinking “ah, my vote won’t matter—she’s got this.”

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iossarian  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:09:06am

re: #441 KingKenrod

Get Mexico to pay for it! Simple!

I was just reading some Napoleonic history and that was basically his idea too (though with Italy substituted for Mexico).

Let’s have a little think about how that ended up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:09:13am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky again…sigh

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BUT MOAR SAFETY REGULASHUNS FOR TEH ABORTION CLINICS!!!1!!!

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:11:30am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky again…sigh

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You’ll take what we allow you to have and you’ll be damned happy about it.

(spit)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:11:41am

re: #442 The Vicious Babushka

Because of the requirements of kosher slaughter and preparation, the cuts of meat on the rear parts of the animal are not used. This leaves the brisket as the most popular cut of kosher meat. And now that it has become so popular among BBQ lovers, the price of kosher corned beef, pastrami and roast brisket has gone through the stratosphere, even causing many popular kosher delis to close down.

Aha thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:12:40am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky again…sigh

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Yeah end the regulations of the coal mines. What a fantastic idea. God the right in this country really is regressive as hell. That’s just asking for tragedy.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:15:06am

There’s this:

Short men, fat women earn less; DNA to blame

Men who have more genetic variants that would make them short, and women who have more genetic variants that would lead them to have a higher body mass index, tend to earn less money, according to a study published in BMJ.

This phenomenon has been documented in the past, but earlier studies used mostly observational data. What’s different about this study is that it looks at a person’s genetic predisposition for height and weight.

Well, gee. What can I say?

But the next paragraph I think is written misleadingly:

That means there are no broader environmental factors at play here. Poorer people, on average, tend to have poorer childhood nutrition, which can stunt growth and may lead to obesity. But there may be more to it.

Not sure really what that sentence is supposed to mean.

But if the author is trying to say that genetics is deterministic about income, then that is incorrect.

The paper in BMJ:

Height, body mass index, and socioeconomic status: mendelian randomisation study in UK Biobank

Important bit from the abstract:

Genetic analysis provided evidence that these associations were partly causal.

Which seems to be different than the popular press piece I first quoted.

Their video:

Short man, or overweight woman? Your size could make you poorer

There’s a really important little word in the first person’s explanation, and that is the word “if”. The problem is, our entire life cannot be dissected into completely independent variables. We are not just a simple sum of independent variables.

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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:15:10am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Yeah end the regulations of the coal mines. What a fantastic idea. God the right in this country really is regressive as hell. That’s just asking for tragedy.

They’ll blame the lack of regulations, and that just proves that government doesn’t work. And people will vote for them for this reason.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:15:50am

It is here that I will note that “Little Marco” is considerably shorter than Donald John Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:17:02am

re: #452 Belafon

They’ll blame the lack of regulations, and that just proves that government doesn’t work. And people will vote for them for this reason.

Yep. Sigh.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:17:08am

re: #442 The Vicious Babushka

The economics of kosher delis is screwed up to the point where delis that used to make the corned beef/pastrami in house with their own blends are using meats that were prepared centrally in an effort to keep cost down. That further reduces the quality IMO, and great kosher delis are getting harder to find.

/the great kosher deli lament.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:17:48am

re: #453 freetoken

It is here that I will note that “Little Marco” is considerably shorter than Donald John Trump.

I don’t buy Rubio’s listed height at 5’10. I dunno. I’m closer to being Rubio’s recorded height than Trump’s and I just don’t see it. I see Rubio as being in the 5’8/9 neighborhood.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:17:59am

re: #392 freetoken

The problem is our laws and traditions about politics are tied to geography. We divvy up political power by geography more so than many contemporary “democratic” nations.

We Americans - we love our geographic boundaries.

A parliamentary system could bring about a more proportional representation, but I give the chances of us adopting that at less than our adopting the metric system.

It may be that it will take a massive constitutional crisis before we change. It would be nice if we could correct the problem before that happens, though I recognize its unlikely. Obviously the two major parties won’t be interested in giving up their duopoly on political power, so it would take a huge popular movement coming from the people. I might page a proposal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:19:11am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

I don’t buy Rubio’s listed height at 5’10. I dunno. I’m closer to being Rubio’s recorded height than Trump’s and I just don’t see it. I see Rubio as being in the 5’8/9 neighborhood.

I keep saying, look at the boots Rubio wears…2-3 inch heels on those things.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:19:53am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

And Hulk Hogan’s penis isn’t really 10”.

(see downstairs for the report from the Gawker trial.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:20:00am

re: #455 lawhawk

The economics of kosher delis is screwed up to the point where delis that used to make the corned beef/pastrami in house with their own blends are using meats that were prepared centrally in an effort to keep cost down. That further reduces the quality IMO, and great kosher delis are getting harder to find.

/the great kosher deli lament.

I’ve noticed that too. :(

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Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:21:01am

PSA, if you are going to touch baby whiplash, touch him real good because he’ll sic the cops on you no matter what.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:22:21am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That and the fact that our current electoral system makes the rise of a major third or fourth party nearly impossible.

There is nothing in the Constitution which prohibits House representatives from being elected through a system of proportional representation rather than by district. This should be a part of electoral reforms we need to make our government more democratic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:22:22am

re: #455 lawhawk

The economics of kosher delis is screwed up to the point where delis that used to make the corned beef/pastrami in house with their own blends are using meats that were prepared centrally in an effort to keep cost down. That further reduces the quality IMO, and great kosher delis are getting harder to find.

/the great kosher deli lament.

My favorite kosher deli in Toronto closed its doors 5 years ago. I have heard that there used to be 10x as many kosher delis in New York as there are now. When I was in LA I was looking forward to a pastrami sandwich at Pico Kosher Deli but they didn’t have!

It must be global warming or something.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:22:32am

That genetics article originated at CNN. Here is the CNN headline:

Short men and heavier women earn less, can blame DNA

Note the subtle changes in the headline in the previous post.

However, the article is the same, complete with this sentence:

That means there are no broader environmental factors at play here.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:23:07am

re: #461 makeitstop

Today in Ooops! Gun-humper division:

Pro-gun poster girl is shot in the back by her four-year-old son while driving in Florida after the boy found her pistol on back seat of truck

She posted racist shit like this==>

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withak  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:23:12am

Man, now I am hungry for pastrami and/or brisket. Thanks, guys.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:23:36am

re: #461 makeitstop

Today in Ooops! Gun-humper division:

Pro-gun poster girl is shot in the back by her four-year-old son while driving in Florida after the boy found her pistol on back seat of truck

No guns were harmed, so nothing to see.

Responsible gun owner shot by irresponsible toddler who failed to check that safety was on, chamber had round in it, and that it was just there. Or is it irresponsible gun owner shot by responsible toddler.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:24:37am

re: #468 lawhawk

Be sure to check out the tweet VB dug up, from the mom’s account.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:25:09am

How on earth did I wind up following this vile piece of shit?

twitter.com

Remedied.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:25:20am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I think why so few third parties have emerged is that most third parties aren’t practical. It’s all or nothing with them.

No, third parties are common in most democracies. We rig our system with gerrymandering, district voting and limited ballot access to create near insurmountable barriers to third parties.

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iossarian  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:25:44am

re: #461 makeitstop

The victim was transported to University of Florida Health in Gainesville and was last reported to be in stable condition.

Saved by a publicly-funded university health system! Now that’s irony.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:27:29am

Jake’s deli in Milwaukee is the best in town. 4 carvers during lunch to keep up. Costly but oh so delicious.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:27:31am

re: #464 The Vicious Babushka

My favorite kosher deli in Toronto closed its doors 5 years ago. I have heard that there used to be 10x as many kosher delis in New York as there are now. When I was in LA I was looking forward to a pastrami sandwich at Pico Kosher Deli but they didn’t have!

It must be global warming or something.

It’s capitalism. Chicken wings used to be throw-away food that cost next to nothing. Then wings became a thing and now they cost as much as the breast does.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:30:20am

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

I keep saying, look at the boots Rubio wears…2-3 inch heels on those things.

I’ll have to look heh.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:30:25am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kentucky again…sigh

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However, the Democrats retained control of the House in yesterday’s special elections, so those bad Senate bills will continue to die in committee, for now.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:30:44am

re: #471 Big Beautiful Door

No, third parties are common in most democracies. We rig our system with gerrymandering, district voting and limited ballot access to create near insurmountable barriers to third parties.

That is true.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:31:27am

re: #461 makeitstop

Today in Ooops! Gun-humper division:

Pro-gun poster girl is shot in the back by her four-year-old son while driving in Florida after the boy found her pistol on back seat of truck

Hopefully it makes her rethink her stance but after seeing the shit she’s posted from VB, I doubt it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:32:18am

re: #465 freetoken

That genetics article originated at CNN. Here is the CNN headline:

Short men and heavier women earn less, can blame DNA

Note the subtle changes in the headline in the previous post.

However, the article is the same, complete with this sentence:

Is there any link between short GOP candidates and their performance in polls?

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withak  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:32:56am

re: #478 HappyWarrior

Hopefully it makes her rethink her stance but after seeing the shit she’s posted from VB, I doubt it.

The replies on this tweet are priceless.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:35:34am

How do you stop a bad baby with a gun?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:35:53am

PHOENIX (AP) - A federal judge in Arizona decided that an adult son of jailed Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy should remain in custody pending his transfer to Las Vegas to face conspiracy, assault on a federal officer and other charges.

Records show that U.S. Magistrate Judge David Duncan in Phoenix signed documents Friday to allow Melvin Bundy to be moved to Nevada.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:36:14am

re: #481 Amory Blaine

How do you stop a bad baby with a gun?

A good baby with a gun!/

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:37:43am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

Rubio is heightening.

heightening

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:38:33am

re: #481 Amory Blaine

How do you stop a bad baby with a gun?

“My right to be careless with my guns trumps your right to be afraid of what could happen as a result of my kid firing it!”

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Stanley Sea  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:38:53am

re: #472 iossarian

Saved by a publicly-funded university health system! Now that’s irony.

And an exceptional one at that. Go Gators!

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:38:53am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if it’s as hard being in jail on Mel as it is on Ammon. Woe is them.

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:39:18am

Michael Twitty is on live:

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:40:45am

re: #480 withak

The replies on this tweet are priceless.

She deserves every bit of that ridicule. Maybe she’ll smarten up now.

Oh, what am I saying? Probably not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:41:13am

LOSERS!!11!!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:42:43am

re: #480 withak

The replies on this tweet are priceless.

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Her husband is looking at her phone saying WTF.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:43:21am

re: #490 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOSERS!!11!!

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I thought Searcy left Twitter. Or was that another right-wing asshole?

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withak  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:43:29am

re: #489 makeitstop

She deserves every bit of that ridicule. Maybe she’ll smarten up now.

Oh, what am I saying? Probably not.

Nah, she’ll just double-down and arm her whole family, even the pets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:43:50am

re: #492 MsJ

I thought Searcy left Twitter. Or was that another right-wing asshole?

I thought he left, too.
Guess he just couldn’t stay away…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:44:10am
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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:45:10am

Twitter is often not kind. Especially to idiots. This is from her timeline.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:46:24am

I read this interesting comment at Balloonjuice:

Anyone else find it rather ironic that a lot of the people who think Clinton should be disqualified for the presidency because she had classified documents on her server when she was Secretary of State are the same people who think Edward Snowden is a hero for taking classified documents and giving them to reporters?

Any thoughts lizards?

(Cole’s whole post about supporting Clinton even though he really does like Bernie a lot is a good read too.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:46:49am

re: #495 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:47:12am

re: #490 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOSERS!!11!!

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You know there are a lot of conservative actors out there whose work I genuinely appreciate. Nick Searcy really isn’t on my radar and it’s got little to do with him being a wingnut desperate for attention.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:47:40am

All the lies Donald Drumpf told in his election night infomercial

Man, even R-Money can get into this guy’s head. What a wuss.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:48:48am

re: #497 KerFuFFler

I read this interesting comment at Balloonjuice:

Any thoughts lizards?

(Cole’s post about supporting Clinton even though he really does like Bernie a lot is a good read too.)

I think he brings up a valid point. The more I think about Clinton and people who dislike her. I do think there is some sub-conscious sexism involved. Overt too but there’s some sub-conscious too among some of the people who insist that her being a woman has nothing to do with it. I call bs.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:49:09am

Trump is speaking in Fayetteville, NC later on today:

LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Fayetteville, NC (3-9-16)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:49:15am

re: #493 withak

Nah, she’ll just double-down and arm her whole family, even the pets.

How do you stop a bad dog with a gun? A good, good dog with a gun! Yes, yes you are a good dog! Wait, don’t point that at me, no, no bad dog!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:49:26am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:50:07am

re: #474 MsJ

It’s capitalism. Chicken wings used to be throw-away food that cost next to nothing. Then wings became a thing and now they cost as much as the breast does.

Same with cuts of beef like skirt and flank. And, The Brisket.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:50:55am

Looking at Trump’s schedule for the coming week, it looks like he is giving Ohio his attention. Evidently he feels Florida is a wrap.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:51:09am

re: #490 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOSERS!!11!!

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What happened to his boycott?

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gwangung  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:51:18am

re: #501 HappyWarrior

I think he brings up a valid point. The more I think about Clinton and people who dislike her. I do think there is some sub-conscious sexism involved. Overt too but there’s some sub-conscious too among some of the people who insist that her being a woman has nothing to do with it. I call bs.

Also, I think a lot of the right wing smearing has been unconsciously been absorbed by everyone, including the left.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:51:19am

re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This pisses me off so much. I thought we were done with this bigoted asshole. Did the fact that he got beat by Terry McAuliffe mean nothing to Senate Republicans.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:51:31am

re: #497 KerFuFFler

I read this interesting comment at Balloonjuice:

Any thoughts lizards?

(Cole’s whole post about supporting Clinton even though he really does like Bernie a lot is a good read too.)

I have been saying that same thing. Along with Apple giving the Feds a way to get around iPhone encryption, seriously, so many roads lead back to Snowden. He proved that government data is vulnerable.

Further, I would lay odds on Clinton’s server being more secure than the .gov.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:52:01am

re: #508 gwangung

Also, I think a lot of the right wing smearing has been unconsciously been absorbed by everyone, including the left.

Absolutely. I’ve heard it with my own ears. And I have to admit that I myself was guilty of it a little too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:52:15am
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Skip Intro  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:53:16am

re: #500 makeitstop

All the lies Donald Drumpf told in his election night infomercial

Man, even R-Money can get into this guy’s head. What a wuss.

The story of “Trump Winery”. In short, just another sleazy Trump deal.

Trump Winery (formerly “Kluge Vineyard and Estate”) is a Virginia winery situated on Trump Vineyard Estates in Charlottesville, VA. The vineyard was purchased by American business mogul Donald Trump in April 2011[1] and was officially opened in October 2011.[2] President Eric Trump, Donald Trump’s son, oversees everything from winemaking and marketing to global distribution and sales.[3] Donald Trump no longer owns Trump Winery as he gave it to his son Eric.[4][5]

Trump bought the 1,300-acre vineyard and winery for a fraction of its original value. Patricia Kluge had owned the property and spent much of her $100-$200 million fortune over two decades developing it into a winery; as her finances dwindled, so did her chances of retaining the property. Bank of America owned the mortgage on the mansion itself and was foreclosing, but the surrounding property remained in a Kluge family trust. Trump, a longstanding friend of Patricia Kluge, bought the 200 acres surrounding the property directly from the Kluge family for less than $500,000; he then placed “No Trespassing” signs around the property and allowed the lawns to become overgrown. This warded off potential buyers and gave Trump the appearance of exclusive access to the property (although the bank’s property interest in the main house included right-of-way easements). This gave Trump the opportunity to buy the land from Bank of America for $3.6 million, a fraction of the nearly $16 million the bank had paid at the foreclosure auction to retain the property.[6] Development and renovation of the property was given to Eric Trump, who also supervised the acquisition.

en.wikipedia.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:53:25am

Cuccinelli is a persistent son of a bitch, isn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:53:26am

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh no Chuck it’s not. Give the fucking nominee a hearing already you dipshit. I know you’re rightfully afraid of a lot of the terrible things that Scalia stood for being reversed. Well tough shit.

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:54:01am

re: #501 HappyWarrior

I think he brings up a valid point. The more I think about Clinton and people who dislike her. I do think there is some sub-conscious sexism involved. Overt too but there’s some sub-conscious too among some of the people who insist that her being a woman has nothing to do with it. I call bs.

Not only that. but it’s looking like their issue is control of people, not control of information. White men like Snowden are not supposed to be under someone ele’s control, but a woman like Hillary or a man of color like Obama should be under someone’s control, not independent in any way.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:54:05am

re: #499 HappyWarrior

You know there are a lot of conservative actors out there whose work I genuinely appreciate. Nick Searcy really isn’t on my radar and it’s got little to do with him being a wingnut desperate for attention.

I loved Art on Justified. Then Searcy opened his yap. We never looked at his character in the same way again. I was glad he wasn’t on as much in that final season.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:54:11am

re: #514 Eclectic Cyborg

Cuccinelli is a persistent son of a bitch, isn’t he?

This time he’s got help from the Republicans in the State Senate. I believe he and my state senator are the state chairs of Virginia for Cruz who by the way did even worse than Rubio here.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:54:51am

re: #516 wrenchwench

Not only that. but it’s looking like their issue is control of people, not control of information. White men like Snowden are not supposed to be under someone ele’s control, but a woman like Hillary or a man of color like Obama should be under someone’s control, not independent in any way.

It’s also about tone and things like that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:56:29am

re: #517 MsJ

I loved Art on Justified. Then Searcy opened his yap. We never looked at his character in the same way again. I was glad he wasn’t on as much in that final season.

He actually had a small role in a movie I loved as a kid with Kevin Costner and Elijah Wood, The War if you’re curious. Nice movie but he’s just a dick about his views. Honestly, it amuses me all these conservative actors who like to play the victim when Hollywood in the 40’s and 50’s actually literally did blacklist leftist actors and crew. So you’re being made to feel uncomfortable in an environment full of liberals. Tough shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:58:11am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 9:58:45am

Woman raises that she has power and is willing to use it, she’s a power hungry bitch. Man does it, he’s assertive. Hillary gets visibly upset. She’s too soft for the job. Man does it, hey let the guy be upset. I mean the total dismissal that there is sexism going on against Clinton by people who should know better because of their own prejudice against her is annoying as hell. I’m not even a huge fan of hers and I see it.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:00:03am
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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:00:07am

re: #505 Le Lapin Tueur

Same with cuts of beef like skirt and flank. And, The Brisket.

Skirt steak is one of my favorites and has been since I was young. I almost died last time I got one. $20 bucks for a not too big cut. A piece that size used to cost like, maybe, $7.00.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:00:15am

re: #521 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ah that does make sense. Honestly, I think Gillespie got really lucky from a low turn out in 2014 when he ran against Warner. Plus I think Lt. Governor Northam is going to be a very good candidate for the Democrats. But still we do have our odd tradition of voting against the party of the recently elected President.

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:00:26am

re: #497 KerFuFFler

Dunno, but I suspect Bernie has the Snowdenite vote.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:00:49am

re: #488 wrenchwench

Kojo is awesome.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:00:59am

re: #526 Nyet

Dunno, but I suspect Bernie has the Snowdenite vote.

I believe Greenwald has praised him and has in his usual dickhead fashion been dismissive of Clinton.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:01:04am

Heh!

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:02:29am

re: #514 Eclectic Cyborg

Cuccinelli is a persistent son of a bitch, isn’t he?

They all are. Once they get a taste of power, influence, government pay and benefits, why do anything else (except maybe lobbying, because the perks are the same).

There are people who truly want to serve Americans. Most, I think, don’t give two shits about us. They care about themselves.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:03:14am

This is why we can’t have nice things==>

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:03:24am

en.wikipedia.org
This is the likely Democratic candidate. Northam is a doctor by training as well as a veteran.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:03:30am

re: #512 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The only way the analogy would hold is if the President refused to sign any Bill whatsoever regardless of content, which of course never happens. In the cases where they issue a veto threat they’re talking about a specific, known quantity that they’ve read and fully comprehend.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:04:40am

re: #520 HappyWarrior

He actually had a small role in a movie I loved as a kid with Kevin Costner and Elijah Wood, The War if you’re curious. Nice movie but he’s just a dick about his views. Honestly, it amuses me all these conservative actors who like to play the victim when Hollywood in the 40’s and 50’s actually literally did blacklist leftist actors and crew. So you’re being made to feel uncomfortable in an environment full of liberals. Tough shit.

And let’s not forget perpetual victimhood. Angie Harmon bitched and moaned about not being able to get a job in lefty La La Land, except she was almost always working, most recently in Rizolli and Isles (sic) which has been on for years.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:05:05am

re: #533 goddamnedfrank

The only way the analogy would hold is if the President refused to sign any Bill whatsoever regardless of content, which of course never happens. In the cases where they issue a veto threat they’re talking about a specific, known quantity that they’ve read and fully comprehend.

Correct. Grassey is talking about rejecting any Obama USSC nominee. That’s entirely different from Obama seeing that the Senate Republicans are again to pass an ACA repeal and saying that he won’t sign it. He really is trending on desperate waters here. I think it will cost him his Senate seat or make him have to fight harder for it than he would if he hadn’t played the partisan hack game.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:05:06am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:05:42am

re: #529 lawhawk

Yunno, someday if we are able to develop full traceability for all foods you consume and all toxins and pollutants you inhale, then I would have no objection to abandoning laws regulating them: affected individuals will be in a position to sue the perpetrators directly.

But until Mrs McGillicuddy is able to prove that 80% of her asthma is related to the emissions from a particular factory, I believe we need to stick to those cumbersome government regulations.

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:05:58am

re: #527 Le Lapin Tueur

Kojo is awesome.

We use the laptops to stream a lot of WAMU because the local station is so lame. It was off the air for a week this month.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:06:44am

Conservatives Blame Obama For Creating Trump With Partisanship, Despite Republican Vows Of Gridlock

Dogdamnit, conservatives really are society’s lowest common denominator.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:06:56am

re: #535 HappyWarrior

Correct. Grassey is talking about rejecting any Obama USSC nominee. That’s entirely different from Obama seeing that the Senate Republicans are again to pass an ACA repeal and saying that he won’t sign it. He really is trending on desperate waters here. I think it will cost him his Senate seat or make him have to fight harder for it than he would if he hadn’t played the partisan hack game.

It is also Congress’ mandate to advise and consent with the President on a replacement, and it is sheer negligence to reject any cooperation outright.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:07:07am

re: #534 MsJ

And let’s not forget perpetual victimhood. Angie Harmon bitched and moaned about not being able to get a job in lefty La La Land, except she was almost always working, most recently in Rizolli and Isles (sic) which has been on for years.

That’s what I mean. They bitch about how hard they got it and yet I’m still seeing many of them with jobs. As I said, when you consider that many lefty actors and crew were literally blacklisted rather than being a political minority in their career of choice then it’s hard to feel bad for them. Besides if any of them are assholes like Searcy is, it’s easy to see why they’re not exactly in the in crowd.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:08:20am

re: #540 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is also Congress’ mandate to advise and consent with the President on a replacement, and it is sheer negligence to reject any cooperation outright.

Correct. If Grassley had just said, we’ll reject any nominee we deem too liberal, that would be one thing. Making it an absolute is going to fuck the Senate Republicans big time IMO. McConnell’s stunt isn’t popular with voters. Of course, Mitch himself just got re-elected so he knows he can get away with this for himself but his fellow Republicans may not be so lucky.

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MsJ  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:08:42am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

The piglet, who has since been named “Janice,” was eventually captured by Brother Damian with the Society of St. Francis, a nearby Franciscan society.

“Only in San Francisco could a wayward piglet expect to be rescued by a representative of the patron saint of animals,” Campbell said.

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BeachDem  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:09:12am

re: #526 Nyet

Dunno, but I suspect Bernie has the Snowdenite vote.

If the kos Berniacs are indicative, he does. There was a diary the other day saying Snowden was on the Nobel short list (which is, of course, a bunch of malarky because they don’t release that list for 50 years) and the Berniacs were out in force, praising Snowden and Greenwald to the hilt.

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freetoken  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:09:16am

Grassley is such an institution in Iowa that I think it is nearly impossible to vote him out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:09:42am

but after a lot of debate:

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CleverToad  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:10:22am

re: #481 Amory Blaine

How do you stop a bad baby with a gun?

Maybe making sure that they’re buckled into their booster seat — and can’t reach the gun from their booster seat — might be a good idea. Just maybe. Assuming you can’t be bothered to put the gun in a place that the 4-year-old can’t get to at all.

I will grant you, many a 4-year-old knows how to unbuckle their boosters, but it’s telling that the officer reported that the boy wasn’t strapped in.

That poor little kid.

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BeachDem  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:10:41am

re: #534 MsJ

And let’s not forget perpetual victimhood. Angie Harmon bitched and moaned about not being able to get a job in lefty La La Land, except she was almost always working, most recently in Rizolli and Isles (sic) which has been on for years.

See also Heaton, Patricia.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:11:01am

re: #545 freetoken

Grassley is such an institution in Iowa that I think it is nearly impossible to vote him out.

That’s quite true but I hear the Dems got a great candidate for the seat. It wouldn’t be the first time that this happened. But we’ll see. I think Grassey finds himself in a tougher fight than he otherwise would have if he hadn’t done what he has. Not saying he’ll lose but it’ll be one of his toughtest re-elections.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:12:52am

NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey’s largest school district has shut off water fountains at 30 school buildings because of elevated levels of lead.

Newark Public Schools on Wednesday temporarily shut off the fountains where elevated levels of lead were recorded.

The state Environmental Protection Department says parents should have no concerns about their children’s water and food consumption at school. The DEP says drinking water alone is not typically associated with elevated blood lead levels. Alternate supplies of water have been brought in for drinking and food preparation.

The district on Monday notified the DEP that annual testing found levels ranging from non-detect to above the EPA’s action level for lead, which is 15 parts per billion.

The DEP has confirmed lead has not been found in the city’s water supply.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:13:14am

re: #538 wrenchwench

It’s my local station and I have watched (listened) as it’s penetration has markedly increased throughout the country. Diane Rehm and Kojo Nnamdi being local celebrities and then making it Nationwide is awesome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:13:36am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:15:04am

re: #546 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not that there was any chance it would pass the Senate and be signed by the Governor, but it would be nice to make them vote against it.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:15:16am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

What an idjit.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:15:59am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am very happy that the charges on destruction of an archaeological site are in there. That part really cranked me off. In addition to all the other cranking off that the whole mess did to me.

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:16:22am

re: #551 Le Lapin Tueur

It’s my local station and I have watched (listened) as it’s penetration has markedly increased throughout the country. Diane Rehm and Kojo Nnamdi being local celebrities and then making it Nationwide is awesome.

The Big Broadcast is a must for Mr. w, who remembers the original broadcast of a lot of that stuff, and Hot Jazz Saturday Night is a treasure.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:16:22am

re: #548 BeachDem

See also Heaton, Patricia.

Woods, James

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:16:32am

re: #552 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good, he’ll get a longer prison term that way.

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makeitstop  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:16:58am

re: #554 CuriousLurker

What an idjit.

A fool for a client, as they say.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:18:16am

I’ve been watching the #tcot feed and in the past 24 hours there has been NOT EVEN ONE TWEET (except the ones posted by LIBTARD TROLLS like that Vicious Babushka) about the NRSC tweet about Tammy Duckworth. When you know that if a Democrat dissed a veteran they wouldn’t shut up about it.

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lawhawk  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:18:26am

re: #550 Backwoods_Sleuth

And let’s not forget that Gov. MIA vetoed a lead paint abatement bill just a few weeks back.

The lead poisoning issue is most acute in poor urban areas, since those areas are often the last to see rehabilitation and remediation to eliminate lead from structures.

So it’s not surprising that lead was found in Newark schools’ water.

The issue is why this was not discovered sooner.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:19:19am

re: #392 freetoken

The problem is our laws and traditions about politics are tied to geography. We divvy up political power by geography more so than many contemporary “democratic” nations.

We Americans - we love our geographic boundaries.

A parliamentary system could bring about a more proportional representation, but I give the chances of us adopting that at less than our adopting the metric system.

The borders are between cultures than states: The eleven American cultures.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:19:30am

re: #560 The Vicious Babushka

I’ve been watching the #tcot feed and in the past 24 hours there has been NOT EVEN ONE TWEET (except the ones posted by LIBTARD TROLLS like that Vicious Babushka) about the NRSC tweet about Tammy Duckworth. When you know that if a Democrat dissed a veteran they wouldn’t shut up about it.

You’re allowed to diss veterans if you’re a Republican.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:20:18am

When you hear the GOP complain that Obama is hindering economic growth which ought to be in the 3%-4% range, remember that in reality our population is aging which is what is actually slowing growth.

finance.yahoo.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:21:02am

teh horror…

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:21:20am

re: #560 The Vicious Babushka

I’ve been watching the #tcot feed and in the past 24 hours there has been NOT EVEN ONE TWEET (except the ones posted by LIBTARD TROLLS like that Vicious Babushka) about the NRSC tweet about Tammy Duckworth. When you know that if a Democrat dissed a veteran they wouldn’t shut up about it.

yeah but they deleted tweet so shutup you PC libtard.

/

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HappyWarrior  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:22:02am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

teh horror…

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So Caitlyn still want to be his son’s ambassador to the Trans community? Maybe that’s mean but Cruz both father and son are fanatically anti LGBT.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:22:45am

I’ll just…..leave this…….right….about…..here

Michael Savage: Obama Hired A 2K A Day Hooker To Murder Scalia

P.S. NOT The Onion

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CuriousLurker  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:24:57am

re: #550 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was planning to go to the Newark Museum later this month to see the special exhibit they’re having on Islamic art as a birthday present to myself. Guess I’m gonna avoid all water fountains.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:26:14am

re: #514 Eclectic Cyborg

Like all fungi.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:26:17am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

That old man is crazy as a shithouse rat. Ugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:27:34am

I saw other photos from Louisiana this morning of houses in floodwater to the rooftops.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:30:12am

re: #559 makeitstop

A fool for a client, as they say.

I swear I think they’re still living in some made up world inside their heads where any day now the rest of the country will realize what noble patriots they are and rise up en masse to… something. Or maybe he wants to ensure that he goes to prison so he can have lots of martyr cookies. Those people are mental.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:30:43am

KCADP is the Kentucky Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty

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Nyet  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:32:31am

re: #568 Dr. Matt

Funny how he is ready to slime his favorite judge to get back at Obama.

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wrenchwench  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:36:49am
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Belafon  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:37:38am

re: #575 Nyet

Funny how he is ready to slime his favorite judge to get back at Obama.

Didn’t you know: All 2K prostitutes are also trained ninja assassins. This one just slipped up and left the pillow.

//

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:40:19am
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jaunte  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:40:23am

re: #575 Nyet

Funny how he is ready to slime his favorite judge to get back at Obama.

When Scalia died my thoughts as to the cause didn’t jump to expensive hookers.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:40:52am

re: #565 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rafael Cruz To Breitbart: Donald Trump Will Appoint Pro-Gay SCOTUS Justice

He says that like it’s a bad thing.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:41:19am

re: #520 HappyWarrior

He actually had a small role in a movie I loved as a kid with Kevin Costner and Elijah Wood, The War if you’re curious. Nice movie but he’s just a dick about his views. Honestly, it amuses me all these conservative actors who like to play the victim when Hollywood in the 40’s and 50’s actually literally did blacklist leftist actors and crew. So you’re being made to feel uncomfortable in an environment full of liberals. Tough shit.

I didn’t know Searcy was in The War. Really good movie. It was filmed near my cousins’ home in Senoia, GA. The crew used a lot of stuff from my cousin’s hardware store, and Kevin came in a few times. They said Costner was nothing but a gentleman.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:41:49am

re: #568 Dr. Matt

I’ll just…..leave this…….right….about…..here

Michael Savage: Obama Hired A 2K A Day Hooker To Murder Scalia

P.S. NOT The Onion

Bastard!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 9, 2016 • 10:45:46am

re: #582 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Bastard!

He hired Chippendales to off Nancy Reagan?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 9, 2016 • 11:03:36am

re: #505 Le Lapin Tueur

Same with cuts of beef like skirt and flank. And, The Brisket.

You can thank Texas BBQ for the high price of Brisket….. And I go thru a lot of it.


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