WATCH LIVE: Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders Debate in Florida

PoliticsMarch 2016 • Views: 33,983

Yes, it’s another Clinton/Sanders throw-down, sponsored by Fusion, Univision and the Washington Post this time, moderated by Jorge Ramos, Maria Elena Salinas and Karen Tumulty. Tempers may get a little tweaked, but I feel safe predicting that neither candidate will brag about the size of her or his … equipment.

Univision and the Washington Post present the eighth Democratic Debate from Miami, Florida. Fusion’s Jorge Ramos, Univision’s Maria Elena Salinas, and the Washington Post’s Karen Tumulty will moderate the debate less than 24 hours after Bernie Sanders’ surprise win in the Michigan primary. The Vermont Senator will face off against former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton beginning at 9 p.m.

You can also watch on CNN if you haven’t cut the cable channel yet.

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333 comments

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 5:32:56pm

If the Dems can’t get quality moderators like Hugh Hewett, Wolf Blitzer, and Chuck Todd I’m just not watching.

worldknot Mar 9, 2016 • 5:35:30pm

Why don’t they stay home and let their campaign managers hand out press releases claiming victory?

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 5:40:39pm

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 5:41:39pm

✓ Gamergate profile
✓ Anime avatar
✓ Dumb racist comments
✓ Misogynist rants
✓ Way too much self-esteem

Recommend immediate blocking.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

MsJ Mar 9, 2016 • 5:42:16pm

re: #2 worldknot

Why don’t they stay home and let their campaign managers hand out press releases claiming victory?

1. Statement.
2. Declarative statement.
3. Burn.

buzzfeed.com

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 5:42:42pm

Pro-tip: always hide the YouTube chat box. Reading it will make your lawn die.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 5:43:56pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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You have a lawn?

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 5:44:45pm

re: #7 calochortus

You have a lawn?

Not any more. I read the chat box.

Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 5:46:13pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Not any more. I read the chat box.

Now what are you going to tell the young ones to get off of?

Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 5:46:28pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Not any more. I read the chat box.

Be sure to get your $2 per foot from LA DWP. Go native. Plants that is.

Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 5:47:00pm

re: #9 Belafon

Now what are you going to tell the young ones to get off of?

Since the drought it’s been get off my dirt.

calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 5:47:51pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Not any more. I read the chat box.

Quick way to decrease water useage.

calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 5:51:41pm

There must be too many Californians on here…

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 5:51:42pm

The irony. It burns. https://t.co/BqrPvlHVd3 @paxdickinson

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

Blind Frog Belly White Mar 9, 2016 • 5:52:09pm

re: #11 Great White Snark

Since the drought it’s been get off my dirt.

Not any more! Holy crap! I’mma need a thresher to mow my back yard!

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 5:53:10pm

Thank you so much for the invitation, but I have to wash my cat. @paxdickinson

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 5:53:31pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

Not any more! Holy crap! I’mma need a thresher to mow my back yard!

Another good reason not to have a lawn.

goddamnedfrank Mar 9, 2016 • 5:53:56pm

I need to grow my brand and generate impressions or something.

Twitter Analytics frighten and confuse me. What’s a good engagement rate? I need help catapulting my propaganda.

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) March 10, 2016

MsJ Mar 9, 2016 • 5:55:43pm

re: #13 calochortus

There must be too many Californians on here…

I wish I was one of them!

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 5:56:35pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

This is a pretty good explainer: socialmediaexaminer.com

Testy Toad T Mar 9, 2016 • 5:57:24pm

There’s no word for how sick I am of debates on both sides.

There’s only so much to learn from these shouting matches.

Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 5:57:46pm

There are definitely quite a few of us Texans.

HappyWarrior Mar 9, 2016 • 5:58:24pm

re: #21 Testy Toad T

There’s no word for how sick I am of debates on both sides.

There’s only so much to learn from these shouting matches.

It’ll be over and then it wlil start up again before we know it.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 5:58:39pm

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 5:58:44pm

While we’re waiting, here’s something to read.

From The Bard of the Deal, poetry by Donald Trump.

b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 5:59:27pm

Didn’t Hillary & Bernie just have a debate 2 days ago or something?

goddamnedfrank Mar 9, 2016 • 5:59:37pm

@Karoli Everyone will sell their artisan doodads on Etsy.

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) March 10, 2016

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:00:32pm

re: #26 b.d.

Didn’t Hillary & Bernie just have a debate 2 days ago or something?

The media’s maw is insatiable.

TedStriker Mar 9, 2016 • 6:01:27pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Pro-tip: always hide the YouTube chat box. Reading it will make your lawn die.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

re: #7 calochortus

You have a lawn?

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Not any more. I read the chat box.

At least this didn’t happen to you:

…yet.

Testy Toad T Mar 9, 2016 • 6:01:49pm

I don’t want to overstate my case. It’s super important to hear what the candidates actually have to say.

But, like, if speeches to the adoring base were the most important part of being President, we’d have a State of the Union every month, if not biweekly.

Show me some ability to get shit done, which in the context of a primary means actually campaigning effectively.

b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 6:01:58pm

re: #28 De Kolta Chair

The media’s maw is insatiable.

Can we fire Debbie W Schultz for scheduling too many debates?

calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 6:02:21pm

re: #26 b.d.

Didn’t Hillary & Bernie just have a debate 2 days ago or something?

It’s a new way of determining a winner. The person who loses their voice last, wins.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:02:33pm

re: #31 b.d.

Can we fire Debbie W Schultz for scheduling too many debates?

You can “bank” on that.

b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 6:02:55pm

Lose the f*cking button down collar with a tie Bernie!

Good lord.

Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 6:02:55pm

re: #31 b.d.

Can we fire Debbie W Schultz for scheduling too many debates?

Someone forgot to tell her that the correct number of debates is 2e.

Lidane Mar 9, 2016 • 6:04:20pm

After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick https://t.co/T8Oiwf6wzD (VIDEO) pic.twitter.com/HXDAbg83G8

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) March 9, 2016

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 6:04:27pm

Has it started? Has Bernie mentioned Wall Street yet?

b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 6:06:26pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

Has it started? Has Bernie mentioned Wall Street yet?

I think he’s against them, I’m not quite sure.

TedStriker Mar 9, 2016 • 6:08:05pm

re: #36 Lidane

After Legalizing It, Legislators Drank Raw Milk, Then Got Really Sick t.co (VIDEO) pic.twitter.com

— Mediaite (@Mediaite) March 9, 2016

Schroedinger's Dog Mar 9, 2016 • 6:08:25pm

Let me guess what Bernie will say tonight noun verb rigged economy

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 6:08:49pm

re: #38 b.d.

I think he’s against them, I’m not quite sure.

Wasn’t his father a mailman, and didn’t he used to be a Federal prosecutor?

It’s all just getting mixed up in my head now.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:09:28pm

R.I.P. Homer Simpson Talking Bottle Opener, birthday present circa 1996 — tonight. You will be missed, totally obnoxious though you were.

Homer: “Don’t mind if I do!”

b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 6:09:31pm

re: #40 Schroedinger’s Dog

Let me guess what Bernie will say tonight noun verb rigged economy

He’s going to defeat ISIS by busting up the big banks that they use.

Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:09:47pm

re: #36 Lidane

It’s interesting how unable the US is to manage a product as simple and widely considered safe for consumers as raw milk. Germany, France, England. New Zealand. I guess some places just can’t mange the labeling and handling restrictions the product calls for.

Schroedinger's Dog Mar 9, 2016 • 6:09:47pm

Sanders is rapidly becoming the political version of Professor Irwin Corey

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 6:12:35pm

re: #44 Great White Snark

And in this corner, we have opposing council

I know it’s cool right now in certain privileged sectors of society to be a hysterical, credulous dipshit about “natural” food pseudoscience and to insist upon consuming only foodstuffs marketed using such meaningless trend-words as “organic” and “whole” and “paleolithic” and “bone broth” and “the measles” and so forth; I know, as well, how this dovetails with the rank anti-intellectual and anti-gubmint paranoia of certain rusticated communities. Probably therefore many readers will dismiss anti-gastroenteritis arguments out of hand. Those readers—whom we love—are stupid. The toilet paper industry thanks them for their generous support.

Pasteurization is neither a barren, mechanized alternative to healthful “natural” living, nor a sinister Communist/secularist scheme to pollute the precious bodily fluids of God-fearing Americans. It is good. It makes things like beer and sardines safe to consume long after their production. Crucially for the breakfast habits and healthful diets of many generations of non-farmers, it also drastically slows the rate at which milk turns into a revolting sour disease broth, so that you can go to your fridge to get some for your corn flakes, rather than holding the bowl beneath the hairy teat of a cow in the barn you do not have and will not ever have.

adequateman.deadspin.com

b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 6:13:02pm

Sanders is now addressing delegate inequality

The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 6:13:03pm

WTF I opened the debate in a new window and it started all over from the fucking beginning!

Sebastian is singing the national anthem.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:13:11pm

re: #36 Lidane

Trump warned us!!1!!

Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 28, 2014

HappyWarrior Mar 9, 2016 • 6:13:57pm

re: #49 De Kolta Chair

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You have no idea how much as someone on the Autistic spectrum this shit infuriates me.

Testy Toad T Mar 9, 2016 • 6:13:59pm

re: #47 b.d.

Sanders is now addressing delegate inequality

Vis-a-vis popular vote inequality, or against states won?

Do not feel the need to answer my sarcastic question.

Testy Toad T Mar 9, 2016 • 6:15:39pm

re: #49 De Kolta Chair

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An actual factual goddamned attack on the health and safety of myself and my family.

freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 6:15:52pm

Just turned on the debate and what do I get but EMAILS!.

Schroedinger's Dog Mar 9, 2016 • 6:15:59pm

re: #49 De Kolta Chair

Jindal said let’s not be the stupid party. The Donald replies Aw hell no! Let’s double down

Pawn of the Oppressor Mar 9, 2016 • 6:16:01pm

re: #49 De Kolta Chair

Trump warned us!!1!!

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He reads like a fortune cookie from hell.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:16:54pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

You have no idea how much as someone on the Autistic spectrum this shit infuriates me.

I think I have an idea, since I truly despise those dangerous self-righteous idiots myself.

Blind Frog Belly White Mar 9, 2016 • 6:17:26pm

re: #36 Lidane

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The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 6:17:27pm

Nothing but commercials. How do I get to the debate?

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 6:17:47pm

So really, has the debate started yet?

freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 6:18:13pm

On the CNN homepage:

cnn.com

HappyWarrior Mar 9, 2016 • 6:18:13pm

To expand on that note. I don’t like Trump who knows nothing about autism talking about autism as if ir’s a debilitating illness. It’s not always easy living life on the spectrum. It really isn’t but it is for a better lack of word who I am. I’m not sick/ I’m not who I am due to vaccines. I just wish people would realize how fucked up this shit is.

The Ghost of a Cunning Plan Mar 9, 2016 • 6:18:29pm

re: #54 Schroedinger’s Dog

From another perspective, though, they’re both solving the problem of being “stupid” by simply insisting they’re the smart ones.

They differ in volume.

HappyWarrior Mar 9, 2016 • 6:18:34pm

re: #56 De Kolta Chair

I think I have an idea, since I truly despise those dangerous self-righteous idiots myself.

Smile, then you’re on to something there.

Smith25's Liberal Thighs Mar 9, 2016 • 6:19:40pm

I’m staying off Twitter tonight. Not watching this debate. I need to grade. I think I will play video games instead.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:20:04pm

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

Nothing but commercials. How do I get to the debate?

The same way you get to Carnegie Hall: practice, practice, practice?

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:20:40pm

Boom

b_sharp Mar 9, 2016 • 6:21:58pm

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see the purpose in more debates.

withak Mar 9, 2016 • 6:22:28pm

re: #67 b_sharp

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see the purpose in more debates.

Duh, ratings.

HappyWarrior Mar 9, 2016 • 6:22:31pm

re: #67 b_sharp

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see the purpose in more debates.

I don’t either. I think by now people should know how they feel about either candidate.

b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 6:22:38pm

These moderators suck. They’re all trying to hit it out of the park.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:23:28pm

re: #66 Great White Snark

Boom

Sonic.

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 6:23:34pm

re: #67 b_sharp

I’m sorry, but I just don’t see the purpose in more debates.

For the Dems, you’re right. For the Repubs there’s always the chance of seeing someone killed on camera.

freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 6:23:51pm

re: #70 b.d.

These moderators suck. They’re all trying to hit it out of the park.

And, the last question is a false choice.

Whack-A-Mole Mar 9, 2016 • 6:24:06pm

re: #67 b_sharp

To show younger voters, for whom this is the first cycle they’ve ever paid attention to that, whatever the GOP shitshows are, they’re NOT debates; That the Dem events are what debates are supposed to be.

The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 6:25:24pm

OMG she said “La Raza”

Twitter freakouts erupt!

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:26:03pm

Joe Stalin was also committed to supporting dachas, or was that Dopa? Just saying.

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 6:26:11pm

LOL! Another right winger invokes my name as the ultimate insult.

Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 6:26:18pm

Well I guess I’ll go back to watching House of Cards. It’s hard though, when you hate every character on the show.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:26:38pm

Sanders lost me with that Eliot Spitzer remark. I think he lost himself.

goddamnedfrank Mar 9, 2016 • 6:28:04pm

What kind of shit show are you people watching here? Judging by your responses it sounds awful. #DemDebate

— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) March 10, 2016

teleskiguy Mar 9, 2016 • 6:28:56pm

Just got done night skiing at SkiStoned…ahem…Keystone. The cold killed my battery so I couldn’t post this:

Summit County sure is pretty at sunset. pic.twitter.com/sr74DKhSJS

— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) March 10, 2016

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:29:13pm

Hidden object game: Sanders talks about something that happened after 1990.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:30:56pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Just got done night skiing at SkiStoned…ahem…Keystone. The cold killed my battery so I couldn’t post this:

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Gorgeous. Query: Is there a snow country equivalent to the Beach Boys?

Blind Frog Belly White Mar 9, 2016 • 6:31:16pm

re: #78 Skip Intro

Well I guess I’ll go back to watching House of Cards. It’s hard though, when you hate every character on the show.

Click to Reveal

Yeah, when Claire’s hateful mother says she’ll pray for Frank to die, I simultaneously thought, “What a bitch!” and “He deserves it.”

Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:33:03pm

Will we get to—-
Tax policy? North Korea? Syria/Russia? China militarized the Woodleys. North korea threatens a pre preemptive nuclear attack, and holds a presser with a miniaturized nuke warhead (maybe). Iran threatened to withdraw from the nuke deal.

freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 6:33:14pm

Although this is a far more substantive “debate” than the Republicans, and I understand that this thing is a mutual choice of the candidates (who want the free air time) and CNN (who want to up their viewers to up their ad rates), but I am having a hard time really caring about what they say.

Eventually they have to get new material.

Trump is the worse and if it weren’t for the ever present threat of something scandalous coming out of his mouth I wouldn’t watch him.

But there is no such tension tonight. We have two candidates who are relatively (compared to the Republicans) agreeable and cordial, and a panel who are playing gotcha.

I think the Dems would be better off if they held a targeted “townhall” with both of the candidates together, in a swing state and sought out the public who really seem to be undecided, and have some real interaction with real voters asking their own questions.

stpaulbear Mar 9, 2016 • 6:33:20pm

re: #83 De Kolta Chair

John Denver
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Skip Intro Mar 9, 2016 • 6:33:33pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t understand how the “Claire” character can walk around in high heels 20 hours a day. I say 20 hours, but for all I know she sleeps with them on too.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:34:52pm

re: #75 The Vicious Babushka

OMG she said “La Raza”

Twitter freakouts erupt!

The Clintons are very popular in the southwest, and in AZ and NM, Bill and Hill’s speeches are always SRO. ;-)

Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:37:00pm

Wait, is focusing on the criminal and the threatening illegal immigrant for deportation not Obamas long standing policy? Why yes it is.

StephenMeansMe Mar 9, 2016 • 6:38:25pm

re: #90 Great White Snark

Yeah, IIRC this whole “deporter in chief” thing is based on a re-definition of “deport” to include both “nice try coming over the border, go home” turn-backs and “papers please, sorry that you lived here for ten years” actual deportations, plus a backlog from the Bush years that the Obama administration couldn’t just drop.

freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 6:38:28pm

The problem with a stream of gotcha questions is that besides being cheap ways to boost ratings, ultimately the questions bring up (as already seen) false choices and wild allegations.

This is a problem because more often than not the real answers to our issues are compromises that are imperfect, because human society is too complex to succumb to easy solutions.

That includes immigration, where on a case-by-case basis one can argue for either deportation, asylum, or residency.

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 6:43:02pm

Bernie Sanders really did vote for a bill supporting the Minutemen.

thepeoplesview.net

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:43:16pm

re: #87 stpaulbear

John Denver
/

I’m not a John Denver fan, but he did have a lovely voice.

And I’ll bet real money that both Dem candidates have John Denver’s greatest hits album on vinyl. //

Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 6:45:07pm

re: #94 De Kolta Chair

I’m not a John Denver fan, but he did have a lovely voice.

And I’ll bet real money that both Dem candidates have John Denver’s greatest hits album on vinyl. //

Vinyl? Isn’t that that expensive stuff the kids these days use to listen to music?

prairiefire Mar 9, 2016 • 6:45:56pm

re: #94 De Kolta Chair

I’m not a John Denver fan, but he did have a lovely voice.

And I’ll bet real money that both Dem candidates have John Denver’s greatest hits album on vinyl. //

Also, Carole King’s “Tapestry”.

De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:46:08pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders really did vote for a bill supporting the Minutemen.

thepeoplesview.net

re: #95 Belafon

Vinyl? Isn’t that that expensive stuff the kids these days use to listen to music?

Hey, half the hipster economy of Brooklyn is vinyl based! //

Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:46:36pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders really did vote for a bill supporting the Minutemen.

thepeoplesview.net

With 69 Dems also voting for it how sure should I be the motive was supporting the militia?

Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 6:46:50pm

As I look into Bernie Sanders’ record in more detail, he looks more and more like a Ron Paul-style libertarian.

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The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 6:47:39pm

UCCCH

I’m watching a presidential debate in the United States tonight, being conducted in Spanish. Adios, America!

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) March 10, 2016

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:48:42pm

She should offer him the VP spot right now, he should accept and the two of them can spend the time taking down Trump. Alas not gonna happen.

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darthstar Mar 9, 2016 • 6:49:20pm

Can’t do it. I just can’t watch another Democratic debate in the same seven day period. Hillary asked for the Flint debate because poisoned black kids and a 20 point lead and that debate wasn’t exactly a barn burner. Now they’re in Florida? I’m guessing this is another tactical move. If Bernie wins Florida the take away will be that Hillary’s best chance of winning the remaining states will be to keep out of the public eye.

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stpaulbear Mar 9, 2016 • 6:50:35pm

re: #101 Great White Snark

She should offer him the VP spot right now, he should accept and the two of them can spend the time taking down Trump. Alas not gonna happen.

I’d rather hear them talk about policy. I’d rather they talked about anything but Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg Mar 9, 2016 • 6:50:52pm

I keep expecting a sad and confused looking Marco Rubio to wander on to the stage…

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 6:51:00pm

re: #102 darthstar

Can’t do it. I just can’t watch another Democratic debate in the same seven day period. Hillary asked for the Flint debate because poisoned black kids and a 20 point lead and that debate wasn’t exactly a barn burner. Now they’re in Florida? I’m guessing this is another tactical move. If Bernie wins Florida the take away will be that Hillary’s best chance of winning the remaining states will be to keep out of the public eye.

I remember when Berniacs were complaining that there weren’t enough debates. “DWS is trying to silence Bernie! We won’t stand for it!”

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:52:19pm

re: #103 stpaulbear

I’d rather hear them talk about policy. I’d rather they talked about anything but Trump.

If they unify on some solid proposals that will most reliably defeat Trump. If not, well we get what we deserve I guess.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:52:33pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

UCCCH

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Life’s a bitch, and then Ann Coulter dies.

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 6:52:34pm

And anyway, we’re not the audience, obviously, and neither is Coulter. Maybe the combination of this and Trump will get Latinos to vote.

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KGxvi Mar 9, 2016 • 6:52:59pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

On some level, I really kind of wish that Puerto Rico would make a push for statehood, just to watch the xenophobes flip out when there’s an actual full fledged state wherein Spanish is the dominant language.

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Cheechako Mar 9, 2016 • 6:53:49pm

re: #94 De Kolta Chair

I’m not a John Denver fan, but he did have a lovely voice.

And I’ll bet real money that both Dem candidates have John Denver’s greatest hits album on vinyl.

I’ve got John Denver’s Greatest Hits on an eight-track cassette.

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teleskiguy Mar 9, 2016 • 6:54:24pm

I suspect tomorrow nights audience for the #GOPDebate in Florida will have a lot more glitter nail poilish and beer hats #DemDEbate

— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) March 10, 2016

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:54:50pm

I’m a NYer and Clinton supporter, but I haven’t seen her “in action.”

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b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 6:55:19pm

Yep!

Too many boring ass damn debates:

What color is Bernie’s suit? You be the judge. pic.twitter.com/lMh65gH1vA

— BuzzFeed News (@BuzzFeedNews) March 10, 2016

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KGxvi Mar 9, 2016 • 6:55:40pm

re: #108 Belafon

And anyway, we’re not the audience, obviously, and neither is Coulter. Maybe the combination of this and Trump will get Latinos to vote.

I wonder if there isn’t an insignificant portion of the Latino population that sees this sort of thing as pandering and is put off. Census data says about 13% of the population is Spanish speaking, the vast majority of that is likely bilingual. And apparently the trend among Latinos is speaking English at home rather than Spanish or both.

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The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 6:56:05pm

The stupid Goldman Sachs speeches! BERNIE’S VERSION OF THE EMAILS!!!!

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stpaulbear Mar 9, 2016 • 6:56:37pm

re: #95 Belafon

Vinyl? Isn’t that that expensive stuff the kids these days use to listen to music?

Vinyl is that thing I never gave up on that covers a whole wall in one of the rooms in my house. In a few years it will be known as ‘retirement income’. I agree that records are expensive now. Frickin’ 40 bucks for the last Blur lp?

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 6:56:47pm

Hahaha. Why not lets see the speech transcripts.

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The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 6:57:46pm

It’s not a secret what Hillary talked about at Goldman Sachs: opportunities for women in the financial industry! #DemDebate

— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) March 10, 2016

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:57:49pm

re: #52 Testy Toad T

An actual factual goddamned attack on the health and safety of myself and my family.

Damn straight!

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calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 6:58:49pm

re: #109 KGxvi

On some level, I really kind of wish that Puerto Rico would make a push for statehood, just to watch the xenophobes flip out when there’s an actual full fledged state wherein Spanish is the dominant language.

To hear the wingnuts go on about it we already have several states where that is happening.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 6:59:15pm

That’s good snark, Bernie.

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The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 7:00:14pm

LOL Koch Brothers are totally ratfucking. Trump has been complaining about their attack ads too.

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:00:57pm

Even CNN’s title “Wounded Clinton faces off with revitalized Sanders” is nothing but an attempt to make it seem like there is a horse race (when numbers indicate that Sanders is doomed.)

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StephenMeansMe Mar 9, 2016 • 7:01:25pm

re: #120 calochortus

Pretty sure it’s a contender for dominance in Arizona for half the year. During the winter the dominant language is Old White Person Grumble Grumble though. /s

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:01:56pm

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retired cynic Mar 9, 2016 • 7:02:04pm

re: #123 freetoken

NPR interview with Bernie this afternoon, and they presented him with the delegate math and really pushed him, and he just said, oh, he could do it.

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:02:06pm

BENGHAZI!!

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BeachDem Mar 9, 2016 • 7:02:22pm

Why, in the name of all that is holy, would anyone want to watch a townhall with Marco Rubio?

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Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 7:02:37pm

Wow, major boos from the crowd when Jorge Ramos goes Benghazi. WTF, Jorge.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 7:03:23pm

Oh FFS. Benghazi?

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:03:56pm

Bingo

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worldknot Mar 9, 2016 • 7:04:15pm

re: #116 stpaulbear

Vinyl is that thing I never gave up on that covers a whole wall in one of the rooms in my house. In a few years it will be known as ‘retirement income’. I agree that records are expensive now. Frickin’ 40 bucks for the last Blur lp?

Yeah, but vinyl records sound so much better than the CDs they’re mastered from.

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b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 7:04:21pm

Benghazi.

OK, I’m done and I am still confused at the love affair some have with Jorge Ramos

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 7:04:38pm

re: #114 KGxvi

I wonder if there isn’t an insignificant portion of the Latino population that sees this sort of thing as pandering and is put off. Census data says about 13% of the population is Spanish speaking, the vast majority of that is likely bilingual. And apparently the trend among Latinos is speaking English at home rather than Spanish or both.

Based on my experience here in Texas, a lot of younger people do speak both, but some the older ones speak mainly Spanish. There was an article yesterday on the front page of the Dallas Morning News about how Latinos are naturalizing in order to vote against Trump. Those people would probably still like to hear the answers in Spanish.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:04:57pm

re: #127 freetoken

BENGHAZI!!

BERNGHAZI!

Just kidding.

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Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 7:05:15pm

Wow. This crowd REALLY does not want to hear the Benghazi bullshit.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 7:05:32pm

This is not a debate between candidates. It’s Jorge V HRC
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) March 10, 2016

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:06:22pm

Kissinger. Drink!

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 7:06:44pm

Iraq and Kissinger. It’s a libertarian twofer!

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retired cynic Mar 9, 2016 • 7:06:45pm

re: #138 De Kolta Chair

Kissinger. Drink!

FFS

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StephenMeansMe Mar 9, 2016 • 7:06:54pm

Iraq vote and Kissinger quips! Oh boy! /s

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:07:00pm

So, when do we get to see Jorge grill Trump?

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The Vicious Babushka Mar 9, 2016 • 7:07:19pm

FFS

American journalism: pic.twitter.com/xHO1vnpae6

— Niraj Warikoo (@nwarikoo) March 10, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 7:07:26pm

re: #138 De Kolta Chair

Kissinger. Drink!

Wasn’t that Nixon’s approach?

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BeachDem Mar 9, 2016 • 7:07:39pm

re: #88 Skip Intro

I don’t understand how the “Claire” character can walk around in high heels 20 hours a day. I say 20 hours, but for all I know she sleeps with them on too.

She did sleep in them the other night (episode 8 I think.) I’m trying to pace myself. So, three at a time is my max. Is this the last season?

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:07:51pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

Trumpenis is worried about his meat.

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Stanley Sea Mar 9, 2016 • 7:07:54pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

FFS

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He’s looking worse each day.

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b.d. Mar 9, 2016 • 7:08:06pm

re: #142 freetoken

So, when do we get to see Jorge grill Trump?

He tried to ambush him at a press conference and Trump wasn’t having any of it, both of them looked like asses.

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:09:14pm

re: #148 b.d.

Yeah, I know, and since then Jorge seems to not be found with Trump.

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:09:41pm

The debate tomorrow night is on CNN also. Will Jorge be there? No.

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 7:09:45pm

I think Jorge is playing a very useful role here. Get these questions and attack approaches out now.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 7:10:14pm

I was hoping to watch this one my TV, but my Time Warner package doesn’t include Univision in English as far as I can find. So I follow here.

I would ask Darth if Hillary does win in Florida, what will be the takeaway?

Will it be that she only wins in Southern States? But alas…everyone tries to win Florida…and it was the big fight over state in 2000 with the ballot count.

Also, has Bernie ever said how he is exactly going to change Citizens United since it was OK’d by the Supreme Court?

And Bernie, try not to interrupt all the time…settled down you’ll get your time…and third person does not work.

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:11:11pm

re: #151 Barefoot Grin

Agree, it is useful if the idea is to give Clinton the time she needs to make her description of events clear to the audience.

But still, I don’t think journalists ought to play by different sets of rules. CNN in particular seems to treat different candidates and parties differently.

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 7:11:25pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

Landing page for cnn.com

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darthstar Mar 9, 2016 • 7:11:54pm

re: #105 Belafon

I remember when Berniacs were complaining that there weren’t enough debates. “DWS is trying to silence Bernie! We won’t stand for it!”

Yeah…I know…and here I am…getting ready to watch the second hour. I can quit any time I want…I swear it.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:11:56pm

More Spanish has been spoken during this program than Marco Rubio’s heard in his lifetime.

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 7:13:25pm

re: #153 freetoken

Agree, it is useful if the idea is to give Clinton the time she needs to make her description of events clear to the audience.

But still, I don’t think journalists ought to play by different sets of rules. CNN in particular seems to treat different candidates and parties differently.

Absolutely. It’s boardroom debate organization.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 7:13:54pm

re: #133 b.d.

Benghazi.

OK, I’m done and I am still confused at the love affair some have with Jorge Ramos

Simply put, Jorge is being a dick.

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darthstar Mar 9, 2016 • 7:14:04pm

Okay…glad I tuned in. I love watching Bernie being honest. And I’m glad they put more distance between the candidates.

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Bubblehead II Mar 9, 2016 • 7:14:31pm

Night lizards Have some Lulu.

Lulu - To Sir With Love

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:14:48pm

My kingdom for one question about a woman’s freedom of choice.

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darthstar Mar 9, 2016 • 7:15:47pm

re: #160 Bubblehead II

Night lizards Have some Lulu.

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One of my all time favorite songs. Going to play it now so my wife stops growling at the sound of Hillary’s voice. (and she’s a moderate…should like Clinton)

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 7:16:24pm

re: #142 freetoken

So, when do we get to see Jorge grill Trump?

If I remember, Jorge tried and got run out of the room did he not? I think it was one of Trumps first press conferences after he announced.

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 7:17:36pm

re: #161 De Kolta Chair

My kingdom for one question about a woman’s freedom of choice.

Highly Catholic crowd? It absolutely should be asked. Someone else said “what about foreign policy, North Korea, etc.?” Yes, that, too. Have to make every constituency understand why these things matter.

And now:

Sanders: so I…

eta: but he gets to go on.

Moderator: time is up.

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darthstar Mar 9, 2016 • 7:20:26pm

Sanders - I don’t care of Trump’s kids get a free public education. They won’t.

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kirkspencer Mar 9, 2016 • 7:21:30pm

re: #132 worldknot

Yeah, but vinyl records sound so much better than the CDs they’re mastered from.

Well, that depends on a couple of things. It depends on the vinyl being in outstanding condition. And it depends on the hearer’s ability to listen.

Having grown up with albums (78s, 45s, and 33s), I can tell you that the only to /not/ degrade the album is to not play it. And me, I want to listen to the music I buy. Sometimes, a lot.

Fortunately, I make no bones of having lost a little high frequency. I haven’t lost face for guessing wrong as to whether I’m listening to CD or vinyl - unlike a few acquaintances.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 7:22:23pm

re: #162 darthstar

One of my all time favorite songs. Going to play it now so my wife stops growling at the sound of Hillary’s voice. (and she’s a moderate…should like Clinton)

Talking While Female

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makeitstop Mar 9, 2016 • 7:23:13pm

First Trump, now this: James Hetfield leaves Metallica to ‘get back to his country roots’

‘James Hetfield’ and ‘country roots’ - four words I never imagined would appear in the same universe.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 7:23:57pm

re: #166 kirkspencer

And a lot depends on how and when the vinyl pressing was made.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 7:25:07pm

re: #116 stpaulbear

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 7:28:08pm

I’m not clear on corporate bailout. Isn’t the fact that many other nation’s governments back technology with monetary and other forms of support? I’m thinking France and Japan off the top of my head.

So, what would be Bernies issue when he: 1. wants more jobs in America, 2. He fashions himself as a Democratic Socialist and isn’t helping people get jobs in his thinking, so why wouldn’t he want to help companies, 3. He says he wanted to bail out the auto industry…he wouldn’t want a strong Boeing and would not also bail them out if needed?

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 7:30:58pm

re: #168 makeitstop

First Trump, now this: James Hetfield leaves Metallica to ‘get back to his country roots’

‘James Hetfield’ and ‘country roots’ - four words I never imagined would appear in the same universe.

Maybe he wants to do a duet with Kid Rock.

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GlutenFreeJesus Mar 9, 2016 • 7:31:50pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

As I look into Bernie Sanders’ record in more detail, he looks more and more like a Ron Paul-style libertarian.

Next time, the DNC better have learned their lesson about allowing in an outsider that has done nothing in the past for the party.

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Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 7:32:03pm

Sorry, but Bernie’s answer on how he’d fight climate change was just dumb. “We need a revolution.”

That was an empty bullshit answer that means nothing in the real world.

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 7:33:46pm

re: #173 GlutenFreeJesus

Next time, the DNC better have learned their lesson about allowing in an outsider that has done nothing in the past for the party.

We had a Republican, a Dixiecrat, and two Democrats. A Socialist just rounded things out.

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stpaulbear Mar 9, 2016 • 7:34:14pm

re: #170 Eric The Fruit Bat

When I fell in love with music, cassettes were a pretty shitty media. It was records or the radio or 8-tracks for listening in the car. It was kind of hard to love 8-track tapes. I never lost that love for vinyl.

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nines09 Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:12pm

re: #168 makeitstop

First Trump, now this: James Hetfield leaves Metallica to ‘get back to his country roots’

‘James Hetfield’ and ‘country roots’ - four words I never imagined would appear in the same universe.

First single will be a remake of “Enter Sandman”….. “Enter Repo Man”.

re: #172 Belafon

Call it “Douche Duet?”

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GlutenFreeJesus Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:16pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

He has no answers for any of his agenda.

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:22pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but Bernie’s answer on how he’d fight climate change was just dumb. “We need a revolution.”

That was an empty bullshit answer that means nothing in the real world.

Miracle

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:29pm

Fuck You, Hills. Your hubby signed the legislation that laid the foundation for the Great Recession.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:35:56pm

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:37:22pm

re: #179 Belafon

That was an empty bullshit answer that means nothing in the real world.

Therein lies the Bern.

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 7:37:34pm

re: #181 De Kolta Chair

She’s a *which.

Based on oh so clever #WhichHillary tag.

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Kragar Mar 9, 2016 • 7:37:50pm

Dick move pic.twitter.com/g2UiuNPvZN

— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) March 10, 2016

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jaunte Mar 9, 2016 • 7:37:50pm

Still really struck by the phenomenon of a Democratic candidate calling for a political revolution after 8 years of a Democratic presidency
— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) March 10, 2016

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bratwurst Mar 9, 2016 • 7:38:49pm

It’s fair for Sanders to cite his good bills—and to note that only 3 of his bills ever became law (and 2 renamed post offices).

— Nicholas Kristof (@NickKristof) March 10, 2016

At least he is ahead of House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy…he only ever renamed ONE post office.

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Feline Fearless Leader Mar 9, 2016 • 7:38:54pm

Oooo… another Democrat debate!

Benghazi! Reallllly??!!!??

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 7:38:55pm

I really connected with Nick Hornby’s “High Fidelity” because it is funny and it understood a well-made mix tape. I was shitty at it myself, but my brother had friends who were brilliant. I heard so much stuff at a young age that way: Pere Ubu, Suicide, U2, Joy Division, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Undertones, 999……

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:39:34pm

re: #183 Nyet

She’s a *which.

Based on oh so clever #WhichHillary tag.

Switchin’ and bitchin’ in the kitchen. — old Delta blues lyric

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:41:56pm

re: #186 bratwurst

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At least he is ahead of House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy…he only ever renamed ONE post office.

Along those lines, I swear most congresspeople support Amtrak not just for local jobs but in the hope that a station will be named for them.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:43:41pm

A neat irony would be if Turner Classic Movies was showing Honeymoon in Havana right now.

///

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bratwurst Mar 9, 2016 • 7:44:04pm

Washington Post story tonight about how Rubio’s decision to go crazy negative on Trump lead to his campaign becoming unraveled.

Problem with that theory is the leap in logic required to see Rubio’s campaign as having been raveled in the first place!

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 7:44:30pm

re: #176 stpaulbear

Vinyl was starting to get real bad in the late 1970s and early 1980s with the use of reground vinyl and the massive abuse of stampers which blunted the high-frequency component of LP’s. It wasn’t until the niche market of high-quality vinyl pressings (domestic half-speeds from MSFL, Nautilus, et al, and Japanese imports) that kept the LP market alive-but once the CD emerged, that led to eventual decline of the LP until today’s nostalgic renaissance.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 7:45:09pm

Time spent wheeling a wombat about in wheelbarrow is never wasted pic.twitter.com/8jqV3mtDAt

— Marcus Chown (@marcuschown) March 9, 2016

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Big Beautiful Door Mar 9, 2016 • 7:46:30pm

re: #192 bratwurst

Washington Post story tonight about how Rubio’s decision to go crazy negative on Trump lead to his campaign becoming unraveled.

Problem with that theory is the leap in logic required to see Rubio’s campaign as having been raveled in the first place!

Yea, that was a desperation ploy of a campaign throwing a Hail Mary.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:47:14pm

Hillary & Bernie are discussing Climate Change. For any Republican tuning in right now, it’s like watching a foreign film without subtitles.

— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) March 10, 2016

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 7:48:17pm

re: #194 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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e.e. wombat

so much
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pushing me in
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fuck the color

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:49:28pm

Lord love Senator Sanders, but I bet he pronounces “burrito” with three extra r’s. (I know white New England lib/progs who do that and it never fails to crack me up.)

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 7:51:35pm

headsofspace.com ?

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calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 7:52:21pm

Hey Klys-I saw your cross stitch projects a couple threads back. Very nice, but why do you think the sheep in the Greenland Santa one looks weird and goat-like? Looks pretty sheepy to me.

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Joe Bacon Mar 9, 2016 • 7:53:10pm

@AnnCoulter idiota Rubio dice lo que ??

— josephebacon (@josephebacon) March 10, 2016

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Feline Fearless Leader Mar 9, 2016 • 7:53:45pm

re: #200 calochortus

Hey Klys-I saw your cross stitch projects a couple threads back. Very nice, but why do you think the sheep in the Greenland Santa one looks weird and goat-like? Looks pretty sheepy to me.

I thought only Hypno-Goat told people they were getting very sheepy.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:54:58pm

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Moderator: time is up.

An apt analogy for our political discourse. :-(

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jaunte Mar 9, 2016 • 7:56:09pm

Bernie looking at Hillary #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/sv4SNpK1UU

— Ann Telnaes (@AnnTelnaes) March 10, 2016

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:56:55pm

A great opportunity for Senator Sanders and Secretary Clinton to bring up the subject of abortion.

Nyah.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 7:57:41pm

re: #168 makeitstop

First Trump, now this: James Hetfield leaves Metallica to ‘get back to his country roots’

‘James Hetfield’ and ‘country roots’ - four words I never imagined would appear in the same universe.

Metallica still exists?

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 7:57:51pm

re: #200 calochortus

Hey Klys-I saw your cross stitch projects a couple threads back. Very nice, but why do you think the sheep in the Greenland Santa one looks weird and goat-like? Looks pretty sheepy to me.

The horns.

I suppose it is probably a sheep but it’s just weird.

Also it’s a confetti demon when it comes to stitching, which was a pain in the ass.

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Joe Bacon Mar 9, 2016 • 7:58:00pm

Ah, just got off the phone with another GOP Polling Call!

“Hello, I’m calling from American Crossroads. We’d like your opinion on the Presidential race!”

I can’t help myself (again)!

“Oh, America Crossroads, Hey you’re Karl Rove’s group. OH I got a special message just for you! Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump”

“You’re enthusiastic for him!”

“Say, does Karl still have a couple million stashed away? Why, I’m thinking of running as a Republican here in Los Angeles and I’d love him to toss some money my way!”

CLICK…

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prairiefire Mar 9, 2016 • 7:58:27pm

re: #193 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh, Japanese imports are keeping their value and then some on Ebay.

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makeitstop Mar 9, 2016 • 7:58:38pm

re: #189 De Kolta Chair

Switchin’ and bitchin’ in the kitchen. — old Delta blues lyric

Sounds like a Clyde Frazier-ism.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 7:58:58pm

re: #204 jaunte

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Ms. Telnaes is great.

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Decatur Deb Mar 9, 2016 • 7:59:05pm

NBC/Wall Steet Journal put out a new poll. HRC does best against the TPGOP leader, worst against the doof who’s about to drop out. Bummer, Reince.

nbcnews.com

(Still a registered-voter sample, but a good size.)

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prairiefire Mar 9, 2016 • 7:59:25pm

re: #208 Joe Bacon

You are having too much fun.

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No Depression Mar 9, 2016 • 7:59:40pm

re: #168 makeitstop

First Trump, now this: James Hetfield leaves Metallica to ‘get back to his country roots’

‘James Hetfield’ and ‘country roots’ - four words I never imagined would appear in the same universe.

Alan Jackson wrote a song about this very phenomenon:

Alan Jackson - Gone Country

He’s gone country, look at them boots
He’s gone country, back to his roots
He’s gone country, a new kind of suit
He’s gone country, here he comes

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Big Beautiful Door Mar 9, 2016 • 8:00:16pm

re: #161 De Kolta Chair

My kingdom for one question about a woman’s freedom of choice.

Ironically, only Bret Baier has asked Clinton and Sanders about abortion.

vox.com

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stpaulbear Mar 9, 2016 • 8:00:35pm

re: #193 Eric The Fruit Bat

I guess I’m not claiming that LPs are always the best source. I’ve got both CD and LP versions of a lot of the stuff in my collection. Yes, oil embargo vinyl sucked really bad. A lot of CDs were horribly remastered or else brickwalled for record execs who think louder is better. You have to listen and choose which version sounds best.

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GlutenFreeJesus Mar 9, 2016 • 8:00:55pm

re: #180 Eric The Fruit Bat

Um?

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 8:01:23pm

So… I walked to the grocery store… evidently I didn’t miss anything really important.

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Bill and Opus for 2016! Mar 9, 2016 • 8:01:32pm

re: #206 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Metallica still exists?

I don’t think that Metallica has been relevant since the days of FIRE! BAD!

Metallica Napster Bad

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retired cynic Mar 9, 2016 • 8:01:45pm

Oh, here’s joy!

fox32chicago.com

Brookfield Zoo giraffes and spring

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calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 8:01:50pm

re: #207 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The horns.

I suppose it is probably a sheep but it’s just weird.

Also it’s a confetti demon when it comes to stitching, which was a pain in the ass.

Lots of sheep have horns, including Greenland sheep.

I assume the “confetti demon” part is the speckled nature of the embroidery pattern?

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Joe Bacon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:01:58pm

This ain’t the way to do the William Tell thing!

Hillary on universal healthcare #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/4ikGieIAYS

— Ann Telnaes (@AnnTelnaes) March 10, 2016

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 8:02:00pm

re: #210 makeitstop

Sounds like a Clyde Frazier-ism.

;-) One of my fave photos of Walt:

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:02:37pm

re: #216 stpaulbear

I guess I’m not claiming that LPs are always the best source. I’ve got both CD and LP versions of a lot of the stuff in my collection. Yes, oil embargo vinyl sucked really bad. A lot of CDs were horribly remastered or else brickwalled for record execs who think louder is better. You have to listen and choose which version sounds best.

If you’re willing to take the effort, when you rip a CD, you can adjust the “volume” on the songs, and lower it to get a better range. I used to use a tool on Linux for that.

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Stanley Sea Mar 9, 2016 • 8:02:37pm

re: #199 Eric The Fruit Bat

I updinged. But not sure.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 8:03:21pm

re: #221 calochortus

Lots of sheep have horns, including Greenland sheep.

I assume the “confetti demon” part is the speckled nature of the embroidery pattern?

Yeah, it’s a lot of two stitches here, three stitches there. Requires either accurate counting or a lot of needle rethreading.

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Joe Bacon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:03:46pm

re: #213 prairiefire

You are having too much fun.

Since these clowns won’t stop calling, I believe it is my Sacred Duty to screw up their polling just like I did in 2012 when I told them every time I was a hard core Romneyite!

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Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 8:04:11pm

Brother Bernie and Brother Trump are authentic human beings in stark contrast to their donor-driven opponents.

— Cornel West (@CornelWest) August 25, 2015

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 8:05:00pm

I believe that vinyl sounds better. I haven’t listened to vinyl really since I quit smoking weed in the 80s, though….

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 8:05:05pm

re: #209 prairiefire

Japanese discs are pressed on virgin vinyl - you can tell if you hold a disc up to a light and can see some light shine through the disc. You would never see that through reground vinyl as they dump as bunch of carbon black into the vinyl mixture.

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:05:09pm

re: #222 Joe Bacon

This ain’t the way to do the William Tell thing!

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1. Clinton was the last person to try for universal care.
2. Other countries with total care do it through insurance. It’s not like we’re gonna scrap insurance here. That would be like allowing a third party in politics.

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Joe Bacon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:06:00pm

@CornelWest Trump is about as authentic as one of his Doggy-Dick hotdogs.

— josephebacon (@josephebacon) March 10, 2016

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 8:06:14pm

re: #192 bratwurst

And if Rubio had not gotten ugly in his attacks, and still was behind Trump, said writers would then complain about how being too nice was hurting Rubio.

Face it Republicans - you put Rubio in a no-win spot. First you foment inchoate anger via the Tea Partiers that a wheeler-dealer can easily exploit, and you encourage hyper-religious far-right candidates to fill up your debate stage… and then you expect a milquetoast not-too-tall brown-skin Spanish-speaker to be the person who jumps out to the lead in your contests?

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Great White Snark Mar 9, 2016 • 8:06:14pm

Rob Zombie channels Frank Zappa?
NSFW

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Decatur Deb Mar 9, 2016 • 8:06:25pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Brother Bernie and Brother Trump are authentic human beings in stark contrast to their donor-driven opponents.

Is it really whitesplainin’ to point out that Brother Cornell might want to re-look the whole concept of “authentic human being”?

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 8:07:04pm

re: #232 Joe Bacon

Trump is about as authentic as one of his Doggy-Dick hotdogs.

Trumpenis is about as authentic as Hulk Hogan’s 10” penis.

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Joe Bacon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:07:46pm

re: #236 freetoken

Trumpenis is about as authentic as Hulk Hogan’s 10” penis.

Trump just doesn’t measure up to Ron Jeremy!

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Barefoot Grin Mar 9, 2016 • 8:08:22pm

re: #230 Eric The Fruit Bat

Japanese discs are pressed on virgin vinyl - you can tell if you hold a disc up to a light and can see some light shine through the disc. You would never see that through reground vinyl as they dump as bunch of carbon black into the vinyl mixture.

These are people who memorize album number codes.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 8:08:28pm

Ain’t that the feckin’ truth?

Only bad old fossils gain by more demand for oilhttps://t.co/PqmrarWhf2 pic.twitter.com/7Nd8XMIXye

— Patrick M (@andendall) March 10, 2016

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Decatur Deb Mar 9, 2016 • 8:08:34pm

re: #237 Joe Bacon

Trump just doesn’t measure up to Ron Jeremy!

Nor to Chopin.

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makeitstop Mar 9, 2016 • 8:08:51pm

re: #206 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Metallica still exists?

A wag on Facebook dubbed the Hetfield country album ‘St. Twanger.’

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Joe Bacon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:09:25pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Nor to Chopin.

Nor to Milton Berle! 😏

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:10:18pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

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Brother Trump’s friends, West, would make sure you no longer had a job and that you were in constant fear of your life.

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:11:03pm

re: #241 makeitstop

A wag on Facebook dubbed the Hetfield country album ‘St. Twanger.’

LOL

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 8:12:00pm

Someone noticed that Trump doesn’t get asked hard policy questions with follow-ups:

Anderson Cooper Interviewed Trump, and It Was a Disgrace

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 8:12:13pm

When’s the last time a Democratic convention was exciting?

May the best pol win!

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blueraven Mar 9, 2016 • 8:13:08pm

Well, if should be fun when the republicans start making ads with all the old Bernie videos praising Fidel Castro and other socialist regimes in South America. //

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:13:12pm

re: #235 Decatur Deb

Is it really whitesplainin’ to point out that Brother Cornell might want to re-look the whole concept of “authentic human being”?

Is Brother Cornel an authentic human being or just a self-promoting blowhard … just like Trump?

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:13:36pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but Bernie’s answer on how he’d fight climate change was just dumb. “We need a revolution.”

That was an empty bullshit answer that means nothing in the real world.

That’s like saying your plan to pay this month’s rent is “make money”. Having a revolution is a goal, not a plan.

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calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 8:14:13pm

re: #226 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, it’s a lot of two stitches here, three stitches there. Requires either accurate counting or a lot of needle rethreading.

On the other hand, who will ever know if you make an error or two?

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:14:15pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Cornel West ✔ ‎@CornelWest
Brother Bernie and Brother Trump are authentic human beings in stark contrast to their donor-driven opponents.
10:04 PM - 24 Aug 2015

Oh brother…brother (that’s four counting Cornel too)

John Lennon - I Found Out - Lyrics

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 8:14:41pm

re: #218 freetoken

Clinton signed the Glass-Stegall repeal, the the Commodity Futures Reform Act, and The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. All 3 led to the unshackling of Wall Street, and created the perfect storm that led to The Great Recession.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:14:58pm

re: #231 Belafon

1. Clinton was the last person to try for universal care.
2. Other countries with total care do it through insurance. It’s not like we’re gonna scrap insurance here. That would be like allowing a third party in politics.

Jobs Bernie. Jobs.

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prairiefire Mar 9, 2016 • 8:15:27pm

re: #246 De Kolta Chair

1968.

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No Depression Mar 9, 2016 • 8:15:32pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

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The fact that Bernie chose this asshole as one of his surrogates seriously makes me question his judgement.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 8:16:31pm

re: #251 ObserverArt

Oh brother…brother (that’s four counting Cornel too)

George Martin and his old mate in a park in Havana

;0)

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Decatur Deb Mar 9, 2016 • 8:16:32pm

re: #242 Joe Bacon

Nor to Milton Berle! 😏

? That sent me to wiki—no joy.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 8:16:43pm

re: #250 calochortus

On the other hand, who will ever know if you make an error or two?

ME. Argh.

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:16:51pm

re: #249 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

That’s like saying your plan to pay this month’s rent is “make money”. Having a revolution is a goal, not a plan.

Isn’t that exactly what all of Trump’s plans are? “We’re going to win!” How? “We’re going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it!” How?

Also see: Kid channels Donald Trump to bullsh*t way through test question

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 8:17:34pm

re: #252 Eric The Fruit Bat

Clinton signed the Glass-Stegall repeal, the the Commodity Futures Reform Act, and The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. All 3 led to the unshackling of Wall Street, and created the perfect storm that led to The Great Recession.

Why are we talking about Bill?

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Decatur Deb Mar 9, 2016 • 8:17:53pm

re: #248 Nyet

Is Brother Cornel an authentic human being or just a self-promoting blowhard … just like Trump?

All, all authentic human beings, FWIW.

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makeitstop Mar 9, 2016 • 8:18:08pm

re: #260 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Why are we talking about Bill?

Guilt by marriage.
/

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 8:19:07pm

Bernie supporter on MSNBC: “Hillary is a Reaganite.”

Whatevs.

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:19:12pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

All, all authentic human beings, FWIW.

Some more plastic than the others.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:20:04pm

re: #246 De Kolta Chair

When’s the last time a Democratic convention was exciting?

May the best pol win!

Does anyone ever say these debates help Sanders be a better candidate?

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BeachDem Mar 9, 2016 • 8:20:37pm

I think Kaili Joy pretty much summed up tonight’s debate:

We have watched presidential debates since we were in the womb, and this is seriously the worst one we have ever watched. AND WE WATCHED A DEBATE ABOUT DONALD TRUMP’S DICK.

wonkette.com

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Decatur Deb Mar 9, 2016 • 8:20:44pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

Does anyone ever say these debates help Sanders be a better candidate?

Ever seen a tackling dummy make MVP?

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Belafon Mar 9, 2016 • 8:21:05pm

re: #252 Eric The Fruit Bat

Clinton signed the Glass-Stegall repeal, the the Commodity Futures Reform Act, and The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. All 3 led to the unshackling of Wall Street, and created the perfect storm that led to The Great Recession.

I know Krugman has been saying that reinstating Glass-Stegall wouldn’t have prevented the Great Recession because companies like Lehman Brothers weren’t covered under it. Would any of those have prevented the conditions that led to the collapse?

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:21:13pm

re: #252 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s … not exactly news.

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plansbandc Mar 9, 2016 • 8:21:21pm

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:22:24pm

re: #192 bratwurst

Washington Post story tonight about how Rubio’s decision to go crazy negative on Trump lead to his campaign becoming unraveled.

Problem with that theory is the leap in logic required to see Rubio’s campaign as having been raveled in the first place!

“Correlation: does it equal causation? Opinions differ.”

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:22:39pm

re: #256 De Kolta Chair

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If there is a real heaven they will be working together again.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Mar 9, 2016 • 8:22:42pm

people who live in glass stegalls shouldnt stow securitized throne instruments

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KingKenrod Mar 9, 2016 • 8:22:49pm

re: #251 ObserverArt

Oh brother…brother (that’s four counting Cornel too)

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Video

Nice rhythm section on that record.

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 8:22:49pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

Does anyone ever say these debates help Sanders be a better candidate?

According to the press, it’s about the va-va-va-boom, and not about the school room.

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GlutenFreeJesus Mar 9, 2016 • 8:23:54pm

re: #252 Eric The Fruit Bat

Then there was the $2T (and counting) war in Iraq and tax cuts for everyone.

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blueraven Mar 9, 2016 • 8:23:54pm

re: #252 Eric The Fruit Bat

Clinton signed the Glass-Stegall repeal, the the Commodity Futures Reform Act, and The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. All 3 led to the unshackling of Wall Street, and created the perfect storm that led to The Great Recession.

Yeah, Bush and company had nothing to do with it. Oh and 9/11 was Bill’s fault too.

///

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:24:04pm

re: #100 The Vicious Babushka

UCCCH

I would almost pay for her one-way ticket elsewhere if Ann Coulter would just effin’ leave the USA.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:24:37pm

re: #258 klys (maker of Silmarils)

ME. Argh.

The curse of the artist right there. You can never ever be satisfied and you always know exactly what you would do differently. All that is what keeps artists going.

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calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 8:25:48pm

re: #278 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I would almost pay for her one-way ticket elsewhere if Ann Coulter would just effin’ leave the USA.

I’ll bet we could take up a collection and get the money together in no time.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:26:16pm

re: #260 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Why are we talking about Bill?

Because he is Hillary by proxy silly. /

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makeitstop Mar 9, 2016 • 8:26:17pm

re: #274 KingKenrod

Nice rhythm section on that record.

Ringo and Klaus Voorman.

All You Need is Klaus trailer

Great documentary, if you ever get a chance to see it.

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:27:07pm

re: #281 ObserverArt

Because he is Hillary by proxy silly. /

She clearly was the real President while Bill was chasing women. //

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:27:20pm

re: #219 Bill and Opus for 2016!

I don’t think that Metallica has been relevant since the days of FIRE! BAD!

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I thought after Lulu they were ritually sacrificed on a pyre of burning Metal Machine Music CDs or something…

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De Kolta Chair Mar 9, 2016 • 8:27:31pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

If there is a real heaven they will be working together again.

As a longtime democratic-socialist meself, of the Willy Brandt school, I’d be flipping the bird to the tv cameras a lot more than Senator Sanders. And while sounding like an actual socialist.

But anyway, you’re right.

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No Depression Mar 9, 2016 • 8:28:28pm

re: #260 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Why are we talking about Bill?

Blaming Hillary for Bill’s actions as president is in most cases really dumb. Do people seriously think a First Lady (or First Gentleman) is going to openly disagree with the President, creating an opening for his or her opponents to attack him or her?

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jaunte Mar 9, 2016 • 8:28:34pm

.@BernieSanders says @billclinton made “dangerous mistakes” during his presidency https://t.co/Al7EddBmx7 | Getty pic.twitter.com/wtF9KOvbb3

— POLITICO (@politico) March 10, 2016

Maybe if Bill was running now this would be significant.

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:29:37pm

re: #287 jaunte

Is there any significant President who didn’t make serious mistakes?

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 8:29:57pm

re: #268 Belafon

The CFMA would have prevented the derivatives which Bear Stearns and others used which resulted in the market crash.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:30:07pm

re: #239 De Kolta Chair

Ain’t that the feckin’ truth?

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….not really.

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Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 8:30:49pm

I did some checking, and Clinton was absolutely right - Sanders DID vote to protect the far right Minutemen from being located by Mexico.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) March 10, 2016

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 8:31:44pm

re: #260 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Why are we talking about Bill?

Well, yes, guilt by association is a fallacy.

But the problem is deeper than a fallacy, and it is a real problem

Namely, the neo-liberalism, of which both Clintons embraced, did not provide the balance needed against the large vested monied interests in this country.

And that is why Bernie, who I think is a flawed candidate on several points, has had room to run so well against Hillary, by promoting a somewhat more traditional liberal set of (economic) policies. The division between neo-liberalism and old fashioned liberalism may indeed be best demonstrated by Bernie’s choice of “Democratic socialist” to describe himself, to differentiate from the taken-over-by-neoliberal Democratic Party.

Hindsight is easy, though, and I think it is pretty clear that Bill Clinton for all his personal flaws was a better choice than what the Republicans offered, but that still left a vacuum in the political landscape going forward, for someone to carry the more “liberal” liberal agenda.

Going back… I remember the S&L crisis, which at it’s heart required the socialization of the bad policies of speculators who ruined the savings of many. It should have served as a warning.

But this country went ahead and embraced even more egregious forms of speculation, loosening laws separating banks from the equities and other forms of high end gambling.

The choice, and the neoliberal Democrats went with this and even embraced it, to (1) make investing in “Wall Street” the central theorem of saving for retirement, and then to (2) reduce the amount of control the government had over this portion of our economy… is part of the complex that led us to the Great Recession of 2007/2008.

And more importantly, hangs over us today, as even more and more people seem to think equities have to have positive returns, and that massive amounts of complex pseudo-equities/securities allow the few to game the system for their own advantage and to the disadvantage of many.

Now you can say that only applies to Bill and not Hillary… and perhaps my memory is faulty, but I seem to remember Hillary being quite fine with the “reforms” that happened under her husband’s watch.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 8:32:25pm

re: #276 GlutenFreeJesus

To be fair, there was the reallocation of FBI resources to terrorism instead of predatory lending cases.

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blueraven Mar 9, 2016 • 8:32:58pm

Bernie is a complete ideologue. This is presented by him and others as honest and independent. It doesn’t work. There has to be some compromise or nothing ever gets done.

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:33:18pm

re: #291 Charles Johnson

He voted for lots of stuff that would cause howls of outrage from the Bernie supporters had it come from Hillary. Radioactive waste dumping near a poor community, voting against the Brady bill, voting for the Crime Bill, this Minutemen stuff…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Mar 9, 2016 • 8:34:22pm

re: #292 freetoken

Well, yes, guilt by association is a fallacy.

But the problem is deeper than a fallacy, and it is a real problem

Namely, the neo-liberalism, of which both Clintons embraced, did not provide the balance needed against the large vested monied interests in this country.

And that is why Bernie, who I think is a flawed candidate on several points, has had room to run so well against Hillary, by promoting a somewhat more traditional liberal set of (economic) policies. The division between neo-liberalism and old fashioned liberalism may indeed be best demonstrated by Bernie’s choice of “Democratic socialist” to describe himself, to differentiate from the taken-over-by-neoliberal Democratic Party.

Hindsight is easy, though, and I think it is pretty clear that Bill Clinton for all his personal flaws was a better choice than what the Republicans offered, but that still left a vacuum in the political landscape going forward, for someone to carry the more “liberal” liberal agenda.

Going back… I remember the S&L crisis, which at it’s heart required the socialization of the bad policies of speculators who ruined the savings of many. It should have served as a warning.

But this country went ahead and embraced even more egregious forms of speculation, loosening laws separating banks from the equities and other forms of high end gambling.

The choice, and the neoliberal Democrats went with this and even embraced it, to (1) make investing in “Wall Street” the central theorem of saving for retirement, and then to (2) reduce the amount of control the government had over this portion of our economy… is part of the complex that led us to the Great Recession of 2007/2008.

And more importantly, hangs over us today, as even more and more people seem to think equities have to have positive returns, and that massive amounts of complex pseudo-equities/securities allow the few to game the system for their own advantage and to the disadvantage of many.

Now you can say that only applies to Bill and not Hillary… and perhaps my memory is faulty, but I seem to remember Hillary being quite fine with the “reforms” that happened under her husband’s watch.

well put

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN Mar 9, 2016 • 8:34:37pm

I hit the floor as a nurse for the very first time today. First full day is tomorrow. One thing my nursing school did not prepare me for was my limited vocabulary of profanity. I swear I saw sailors blushing. If I want to be one of the girls I better step it up.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:34:48pm

re: #288 Nyet

Is there any significant President who didn’t make serious mistakes?

Trump!

I’ll finish on that.

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Big Beautiful Door Mar 9, 2016 • 8:34:59pm

re: #294 blueraven

Bernie is a complete ideologue. This is presented by him and others as honest and independent. It doesn’t work. There has to be some compromise or nothing ever gets done.

I agree, which gives me the chance to shamelessly plug my page to solve the problem with proportional representation to achieve a multi-party system.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Stanley Sea Mar 9, 2016 • 8:35:45pm

Klys & calochortus - since you were sharing I was reminded of these plates I painted for my friend’s kids about 11 years ago. I helped her unpack at her new house this weekend & was able to photograph them.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:35:50pm

re: #259 Nyet

Isn’t that exactly what all of Trump’s plans are? “We’re going to win!” How? “We’re going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it!” How?

Was Bernie’s sounding like Trump supposed to make feel better about this?

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blueraven Mar 9, 2016 • 8:36:24pm

re: #297 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I hit the floor as a nurse for the very first time today. First full day is tomorrow. One thing my nursing school did not prepare me for was my limited vocabulary of profanity. I swear I saw sailors blushing. If I want to be one of the girls I better step it up.

Ha…my sister is a nurse and, yowsa!

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ipsos Mar 9, 2016 • 8:36:33pm

re: #257 Decatur Deb

? That sent me to wiki—no joy.

Berle was widely renowned in Hollywood for the size of his.. um… his… yeah, his hands. That’s it.

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calochortus Mar 9, 2016 • 8:37:01pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

Klys & calochortus - since you were sharing I was reminded of these plates I painted for my friend’s kids about 11 years ago. I helped her unpack at her new house this weekend & was able to photograph them.

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They made me smile!

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:37:07pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

All, all authentic human beings, FWIW.

An authenticly terrible human being is still authentic.

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Eric The Fruit Bat Mar 9, 2016 • 8:37:57pm

re: #292 freetoken

The choice, and the neoliberal Democrats went with this and even embraced it, to (1) make investing in “Wall Street” the central theorem of saving for retirement, and then to (2) reduce the amount of control the government had over this portion of our economy… is part of the complex that led us to the Great Recession of 2007/2008.

And more importantly, hangs over us today, as even more and more people seem to think equities have to have positive returns, and that massive amounts of complex pseudo-equities/securities allow the few to game the system for their own advantage and to the disadvantage of many.

Now you can say that only applies to Bill and not Hillary… and perhaps my memory is faulty, but I seem to remember Hillary being quite fine with the “reforms” that happened under her husband’s watch.

Got it in one-and was also ignored and suppressed by Shrub once he took power when the riff-raff in places like Georgia saw what was happening and S&P threatened not to grade/underwrite MBS bundles in Georgia when they passed their anti-predatory lending laws.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 8:38:12pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:38:22pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

Does anyone ever say these debates help Sanders be a better candidate?

Are you implying Bernie isn’t perfect?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Mar 9, 2016 • 8:38:52pm

re: #285 De Kolta Chair

As a longtime democratic-socialist meself, of the Willy Brandt school, I’d be flipping the bird to the tv cameras a lot more than Senator Sanders. And sounding like an actual socialist.

at least, i think, even republicans are getting a more truth based view of bernie’s democratic socialism, since instead of the deceptive “socialism is a failed philosophy” im hearing the more honest “we dont want to be like sweden”

but i want to be more like sweden, especially if it involves leggy blondes

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:38:55pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

Great choice of colors!

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Stanley Sea Mar 9, 2016 • 8:39:26pm

re: #286 No Depression

Blaming Hillary for Bill’s actions as president is in most cases really dumb. Do people seriously think a First Lady (or First Gentleman) is going to openly disagree with the President, creating an opening for his or her opponents to attack him or her?

See: Nancy Reagan

If anything, she cultivated her husband’s presidency.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:39:33pm

In case you’ve ever wondered what happens when bamboo meets wet snow:

Bamboo is *very* flexible and strong!

After several days of warm weather, we got a surprise overnight — about 1” of wet snow. My students (not shown here) from the warmer climes of China were very excited today.

Now it’s midday, and it’s mostly gone.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 8:40:03pm

When you have harsher words for Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama than Fidel Castro, you’re not doing it right.

— Armando (@armandodkos) March 10, 2016

I might dig up transcripts. I’m not going to look for video while eating, because I like my appetite.

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Charles Johnson Mar 9, 2016 • 8:40:06pm

re: #291 Charles Johnson

Discussion of the amendment in question: H.Amdt.971 to H.R.5441 - 109th Congress (2005-2006) - Amendment Text | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

Mr. Chairman, what this amendment does is it clarifies Congress’ position on a Border Patrol practice or a practice of the U.S. Government that tips off illegal immigrants as to where citizen patrols may be located. As we know, we had lots of testimony and lots of visits from people along the border, and we have seen lots of cameras and lots of videos about just the total lawlessness of people coming illegally over the border at night.

As a response in that area, a group has sprung up called the Minutemen Project, and the Minutemen Project is definitely not politically correct in Washington, D.C. However, they filled a void which the government was unable to fill.

There are over 7,000 volunteers in the Minutemen organization, and I am sure, like any other group of 7,000 people, you could find a bad apple or two. Yet, at the same time overall, their help has been productive and good. In fact, the Border Patrol itself in a CRS study indicates how helpful they have been, and their involvement has reduced the number of apprehensions of people coming over. That is because their folks are watching the border.

What my amendment does is simply says that the U.S. Government cannot tip off the Mexican officials as to where these folks are located. Plain and simple, nothing fancy about it. I am sure the Border Patrol will say, oh, no, we are not doing that, and yet one of the Web pages of the Secretary of Mexico had the information very explicit, and we just do not believe that is a good practice.

Roll call: clerk.house.gov

He did vote explicitly to support the work of the Minutemen.

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ObserverArt Mar 9, 2016 • 8:40:09pm

re: #298 ObserverArt

Trump!

I’ll finish on that.

What?

You saying you folks don’t think he thinks he has already won this election thing?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:40:31pm

re: #308 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Are you implying Bernie isn’t perfect?

Bern him!!

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freetoken Mar 9, 2016 • 8:41:10pm

re: #316 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Bern him!!

#Bernieberning

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Nyet Mar 9, 2016 • 8:43:02pm

Bernie’s apologia of the left-wing dictatorships - however understandable at the time (Sandinistas) or not (Castro) - is problematic, esp. in what concerns the current tone, as mentioned by Armando.

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prairiefire Mar 9, 2016 • 8:43:34pm

re: #300 Stanley Sea

Fantastic! My try at that would have been terribly smudged up.

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majii Mar 9, 2016 • 8:43:35pm

re: #271 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Rubio was under great pressure from his donors to go after Trump, so he took their advice and it ended up making Trump look good and him look like someone out of his depth. Rubio said earlier today that he made a mistake going after Trump with the hand/penis size taunt. What surprised and disgusted me was when he said his kids were embarrassed. I find it unbelievable that even if his kids did hear him make the comparison, that they’d understand it, unless it’s something he’s said in their presence many times and explained what it meant to them. Him being so pure and everything, I can’t imagine he did what I just described. My conclusion is that he’s looking for some reason to explain his poor performance in GOP/TP primaries/caucuses and is failing horribly.

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Stanley Sea Mar 9, 2016 • 8:45:59pm

re: #307 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s where I started. Then they went out of business & I bought their stock!!! It was insane. When I moved I had to give away a LOT of unpainted bisque :(

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majii Mar 9, 2016 • 8:46:35pm

re: #274 KingKenrod

That tweet shows why I think it was a very bad idea for Sanders to align himself with Cornel West. It’s also another example of why many of us blacks don’t take West seriously. Sanders is decent, but Trump? Nope, nope, and nope. No damn way should Trump and the word decent be used in the same sentence.

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prairiefire Mar 9, 2016 • 8:49:23pm

re: #322 majii

Such an intelligent man, obviously. Anyone is prone to hysterical overstatement.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:52:22pm

re: #316 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Bern him!!

He turned me into a Wall Street banker!

…I got ~~better~~ capital gains tax cuts.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 8:53:13pm

re: #324 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

He turned me into a Wall Street banker!

…I got ~~better~~ capital gains tax cuts.

I died laughing.

I am writing this from the great beyond.

All the updings.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:54:35pm

re: #320 majii

Yes, but my point was that all that was the result of his campaign unraveling, not the cause.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:56:57pm

re: #325 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My condolences to your family.

…so, did you leave me anything?

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 8:57:27pm

re: #327 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

My condolences to your family.

…so, did you leave me anything?

One problem cat with poo that should be classified as a biological weapon.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate Mar 9, 2016 • 8:58:52pm

re: #328 klys (maker of Silmarils)

One problem cat…

Ain’t no such thing.

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klys (maker of Silmarils) Mar 9, 2016 • 9:00:30pm

re: #329 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Ain’t no such thing.

I love Problem Child dearly and always will.

But he can be a difficult cat to like at times.

Like at 4am when he wakes you up trying to eat your hair. Or meows his head off right outside the bathroom door. Or humps a stuffed frog because cat anxiety. Or refuses to cover his biological weapon poo.

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majii Mar 9, 2016 • 9:14:32pm

re: #327 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

re: #326 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Understood. Just adding to the conversation!

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prairiefire Mar 9, 2016 • 9:16:36pm

I am enjoying the Amazon music with my prime membership. Soundtracks 1 & 2 from Outlander are very good.

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Ming5000 Mar 10, 2016 • 1:34:43am

re: #112 De Kolta Chair

I’m a NYer and Clinton supporter, but I haven’t seen her “in action.”

The recent Benghazi hearing was a good example.

Spy Auto

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