Video: Donald Trump Openly Calls for More Violence Against Protesters at His Rallies

Explicitly inciting his followers to attack protesters
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If anyone still doesn’t understand that Donald Trump is deliberately inciting his supporters to commit violent acts against protesters, here’s video proof, as he says the African American protester who was sucker punched at his rally in North Carolina was “swinging, very loud, and then started swingin’ at the audience, and the audience hit back.”

That’s completely false; here’s the video.

YouTube

As you can see, the protester did nothing to provoke the attack, and the Trump supporter who punched him is now charged with assault and battery.

But Trump then went on to explicitly call for more violence, saying this unprovoked attack was “very, very appropriate”… and “that’s what we need a little bit more of.”

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195 comments
1
Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:19:03am

Blacks, gays, and women don’t know their place. It’s time we showed them where they belong.

//

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:19:48am

Meanwhile here’s a Trump supporter naming him/herself Andreas of Rinn and William of Norwich (google those names) complaining about “Nazis”:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:20:08am

Like I said yesterday, even if Trump plans on doing not one of the odious things he’s promising, he’ll have been elected by appealing to and inciting the very worst, most divisive and dangerous parts of the American id.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:20:15am

The OrangeShirt™ brigade will be kept very busy enforcing Trump protest security.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:21:41am

re: #2 Nyet

Meanwhile here’s a Trump supporter naming him/herself Andreas of Rinn and William of Norwich (google those names) complaining about “Nazis”:

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Oh boy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:22:05am

I do not believe that there has EVER been a major candidate for President who lies with such abandon as Donald Trump. It is mindboggling that people love him because ‘he tells it like it is’.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:22:56am

re: #2 Nyet

Taking your avi after a blood libel. Wonderful. That’d get an auto-block.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:23:18am

Campaign lackey walking on stage…

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:23:31am

LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in St. Louis, MO (3-11-16)

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:23:38am

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

I do not believe that there has EVER been a major candidate for President who lies with such abandon as Donald Trump. It is mindboggling that people love him because ‘he tells it like it is’.

He tells it as they want to hear.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:24:44am

re: #10 Belafon

He tells it as they want to hear.

That would be a “Higher Truth”, I suppose.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:25:04am

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

I do not believe that there has EVER been a major candidate for President who lies with such abandon as Donald Trump. It is mindboggling that people love him because ‘he tells it like it is’.

This may be one of the worst aspects of the Turmp campaign. Ideology aside and he’s got a very ugly one, this is something horrifying.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:25:05am

I weep for my country. I don’t know how we got here.

I mean, I do. I know that Trump is merely venting the Fox News outraegs the boors have been lapping up for a decade or two. But at the same time, I really don’t.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:26:23am

I wonder if my Ben Carson-loving relatives are going to turn in Trump supporters now… I hope not.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:26:25am

re: #13 Testy Toad T

I weep for my country. I don’t know how we got here.

I mean, I do. I know that Trump is merely venting the Fox News outraegs the boors have been lapping up for a decade or two. But at the same time, I really don’t.

He is is the FNC comments came to life.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:26:58am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

This may be one of the worst aspects of the Turmp campaign. Ideology aside and he’s got a very ugly one, this is something horrifying.

I’m remembering the Monty Python sketch about the National Bocialist Party, where ‘Mr. Hilter’ is giving a speech to an audience of about 5 bemused citizens, and ‘Ron Fibbentrop’ walks up behind them and says, “He’s right, you know.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:27:31am

re: #15 HappyWarrior

He is is the FNC comments came to life.

And every bit as impervious to factual debunking.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:27:56am

re: #10 Belafon

He tells it as they want to hear.

“He says…,” *points at head*, “what I’m thinking!” Susan DeLemus, Trump supporter and wife of guy under indictment over his participation in fending off BLM at Bundy ranch.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:28:10am

Geraldo being all MBF:

Facebook Post

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:28:37am

SXSW scenes:

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:28:59am
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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:29:06am

re: #13 Testy Toad T

I weep for my country. I don’t know how we got here.

I mean, I do. I know that Trump is merely venting the Fox News outraegs the boors have been lapping up for a decade or two. But at the same time, I really don’t.

It’s easy: racism. Racism used by those destroying the livelihoods of most Americans to pit white Christians against everyone else.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:29:29am

re: #19 freetoken

Geraldo being all MBF:

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Oh fuck off, Mr. I think a hoodie means you should get racially profiled and means you’re a gang member.

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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:29:45am

re: #20 jaunte

boobs vs boobs?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:29:56am

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s right, you know.
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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:30:21am

A Roundup of Violence Toward Protesters at Trump Events
Verbal and physical assault has started to seem routine.
motherjones.com

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:30:50am

re: #24 KGxvi

boobs vs boobs?

The War of the Boobs.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:30:58am

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m remembering the Monty Python sketch about the National Bocialist Party, where ‘Mr. Hilter’ is giving a speech to an audience of about 5 bemused citizens, and ‘Ron Fibbentrop’ walks up behind them and says, “He’s right, you know.”

Need to see that.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:31:05am
“These are not people.”

A month later, at an event in North Carolina, Trump was interrupted no fewer than 10 times by different protesters, many of whom shouted, “Black lives matter.” Trump responded by waving them off and dismissing their concerns, as boos rained down from his supporters.

“These are not people,” Trump said. “Just remember that.”

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:31:20am

re: #27 freetoken

The War of the Boobs.

Open carried away.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:32:18am
“These are not people,” Trump said. “Just remember that.”

Fall is coming, and the ads just write themselves.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:32:42am

Oh my gawd. No.

Click to Reveal

Facebook Post

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:33:07am

Breitbart is now openly gaslighting their reporter because she makes Drumpf look bad:

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:33:48am

*quickly reloads page*

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:34:15am
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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:35:40am

re: #29 jaunte

Trump really needs to get the Randolph and Mortimer treatment.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:35:44am

re: #33 Lidane

Breitbart is now openly gaslighting their reporter because she makes Drumpf look bad:

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That’s shameful. It really is. I hope their other reporters get the message here. You get roughed up by Drumpf’s people, we don’t give a fuck.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:37:00am

re: #18 KerFuFFler

“He says…,” *points at head*, “what I’m thinking!” Susan DeLemus, Trump supporter and wife of guy under indictment over his participation in fending off BLM at Bundy ranch.

I’m not certain that what goes on between the ears of people like that can be called ‘thinking’.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:37:13am

o dear… phyllis is on stage…

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:37:34am

If you believe in karma, Trump is calling violence down upon himself. I’m too skeptical to believe in karma, but I studied sociology, and the conclusion there could be similar.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:37:46am

re: #34 jaunte

#TheTriggering has been triggered.

Seriously Charles. That’s just wrong. As is my wondering who else was in the room taking the photo.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:38:02am

she’s coming off as really old… and she is.

makes me wonder who is writing her column.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:38:57am

“military superiority”… “Obama doesn’t want us to be superior, he want’s us to be like everyone else..”

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:39:17am
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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:40:53am

… he’s on…

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:41:01am

re: #41 lawhawk

#TheTriggering has been triggered.

Seriously Charles. That’s just wrong. As is my wondering who else was in the room taking the photo.

His father, apparently. Now we know how Rage Furby turned out to be such a vile animal; it comes from his family.

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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:41:07am

re: #43 freetoken

“military superiority”… “Obama doesn’t want us to be superior, he want’s us to be like everyone else..”

The amazing thing is, if we cut our military spending in HALF, we’d still have military superiority over everybody.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:41:38am

re: #40 wrenchwench

If you believe in karma, Trump is calling violence down upon himself. I’m too skeptical to believe in karma, but I studied sociology, and the conclusion there could be similar.

There is no way that an entire campaign can be so hateful and not end up feeling the other end of that hate at some time.

All I know is Corey Lewandewski had better stick thisclose to that security detail. If he steps outside of that security bubble, he’s liable to attack someone’s fist with his skull. Accidentally.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:42:32am

He sounds hungover.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:42:33am

Customers at a Joe’s Crab Shack in Minnesota got quite the shock when they realized their table decoration depicted a hanging.

To make matters worse, the photo presented the real-life killing as a joke. The photo is labeled “hanging at Groesbeck, Texas on April 12, 1895.” A cartoonish word balloon above the doomed men reads, “All I said was ‘I don’t like the gumbo!’”

Joe’s Crab Shack customer Tyrone Williams said he immediately recognized that the two men on the gallows were black, and they were surrounded by a crowd of white people.

Image: 160311101123-joes-crab-shack-hanging-780x439.jpg

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:42:48am

SXSW:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:43:32am

re: #47 KGxvi

The amazing thing is, if we cut our military spending in HALF, we’d still have military superiority over everybody.

Correct. It’s so annoying whenever I hear people say we need to spend more on our people, I hear “Well we don’t want the government that big.” And yet not a word from these people about the defense budget but they’re happy to complain about foreign aid and welfare.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:43:53am

Nothing spreads political comity like claiming your opposition is Satan.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:44:26am

re: #50 FormerDirtDart

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Jesus Christ.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:44:47am
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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:44:55am

re: #47 KGxvi

The amazing thing is, if we cut our military spending in HALF, we’d still have military superiority over everybody.

The US spends more than the next 10 countries do on military spending. That includes spending by our allies France and the UK.

So, when I hear right wingers complaining about how the President has gutted the military, I have to wonder what they’re even talking about. We have more aircraft carriers, subs, and stealth fighters/bombers, and 5G aircraft than anyone else. We have more UAVs (with kill-capabilities).

What “gutted the military” is apparently code for is that the President isn’t willing to bomb some corner of the globe into rubble; he’s more willing to consider diplomacy first.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:44:55am

“Yes, but how many guest parking spots should the condo association allocate for visitors?”
“SATAN!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:45:06am

re: #53 jaunte

Nothing spreads political comity like claiming your opposition is Satan.

It’s what we’re dealing with and why reasoning with them is impossible. It’s beyond disagreement. They think Obama is evil personified.

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gocart mozart  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:45:16am

re: #36 KGxvi

Trump really needs to get the Randolph and Mortimer treatment.

Randolph bet Mortimer one dollar that he could take your typical narcissistic misogynistic buffoonish racist cartoon billionaire and make him the Republican Presidential nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:46:05am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Chucky just loves violence against women doesn’t he?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:48:15am

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Chucky just loves violence against women doesn’t he?

Absolutely - that’s one constant in all his awfulness. He truly despises women.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:49:52am

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Absolutely - that’s one constant in all his awfulness. He truly despises women.

It is by far the most fucked up thing about him. And man there’s a lot of fucked up things about that guy.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:49:58am

re: #51 jaunte

To be fair, Jesus protesters are pretty common around here. Every weekend there’s a group of nutbars on Sixth Street with their banners of the WTC on fire and their Bibles preaching about sin and damnation and how Jesus is the only way out.

SXSW just gives them a bigger stage to get ignored on.

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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:49:59am

re: #56 lawhawk

What “gutted the military” is apparently code for is that the President isn’t willing to bomb some corner of the globe into rubble; he’s more willing to consider diplomacy first.

When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. That has been the bulk of our foreign policy since the end of the Cold War, or to mix metaphors, it’s been our big stick carried with reckless abandon.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:50:46am

going on and on about teleprompters…

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:51:01am
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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:51:42am

This like an ECW audience circa 1995.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:51:58am

black guy being escorted out to wild cheers…

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:52:47am

Couple taken hostage kill murder suspect, jail escapee in Mississippi

Must be the week for self defense.

(CNN)Rafael Arnez McCloud allegedly had killed once before. More than eight months later — and days after escaping a Mississippi jail — he appeared poised to kill again. Wielding a bloody knife, he held a man, a woman and their 5-year-old son hostage in a bathroom of their Vicksburg home.

But this time, he was the one who ended up dead.

Early Thursday, the 24-year-old wife and mother, who’d been allowed to leave the bathroom, returned with a handgun and fired one shot at McCloud, police said. She then untied her husband, who “took control of the weapon and fired additional shots, striking McCloud.”

So what happens when some protester knocks out an attacker at a Trump rally or nearby? Maybe open carry and a Trump rally would be the worlds worst idea about now. Yikes.

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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:53:10am

re: #63 Lidane

To be fair, Jesus protesters are pretty common around here. Every weekend there’s a group of nutbars on Sixth Street with their banners of the WTC on fire and their Bibles preaching about sin and damnation and how Jesus is the only way out.

SXSW just gives them a bigger stage to get ignored on.

Video

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:53:26am

Heh.

Facebook Post

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:53:48am
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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:54:24am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:56:02am

re: #73 jaunte

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That is what I am afraid of.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:56:11am

CHYNA!!

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:56:53am
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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:57:37am

re: #73 jaunte

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:57:47am
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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:59:24am

Nice of him to specify which wife.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:59:56am

another “troublemaker”

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:00:32am

“hurting this country”

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:01:42am

re: #76 lawhawk

They won’t get anywhere close to POTUS. The Secret Service already knows about those nutcases and have already set up a perimeter since SXSW itself is gun-free.

You’d think they’d be happy that Texas has open carry laws now, but no. They want to eliminate all gun licensing laws. It’s nuts.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:02:53am

re: #71 Lidane

I REALLY did not like this Spider Man’s voice.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:03:39am

re: #73 jaunte

Or after he wins.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:06:54am

re: #76 lawhawk

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From the article:

Open Carry Texas founder C.J. Grisham wrote the event “may get interesting” in a closed Facebook groups with 28,000 members on Wednesday, according to the newspaper. […]

“I don’t understand what people get out of that,” he told the Daily News. “I know that those guys are smarter than the people who are making a big deal out of this.”

Uh-huh, and you weren’t trying to make it a “big deal” by making a deliberately provocative & ambiguous statement to 28K people on FB. Attention whore.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:07:21am
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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:08:14am
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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:08:46am

“these are not good people”

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:09:28am

Haha, this is awesome:

Facebook Post

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:09:46am

re: #87 Lidane

Who cares what Omarosa thinks? Just another attention whore.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:10:16am
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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:10:28am

re: #73 jaunte

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:10:42am

“c’mon police, get ‘em out”

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:11:56am

re: #92 Great White Snark

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It won’t be just blacks & muslims.

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:12:51am

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

I do not believe that there has EVER been a major candidate for President who lies with such abandon as Donald Trump. It is mindboggling that people love him because ‘he tells it like it is’.

Oldest huckster tricks in the book Tell them all they want to hear and how great you are at fixing it form them…build the confidence with them through showing you all the other successes…get other creeps to endorse your ability and then get over.

What I still wonder though is what is the end game. All con men have an end game that usually entails money. Is he after some of the treasury? Most likely through using federal program money to fatten some friends or hidden companies with a kickback to TRUMP.

It is all so very strange. But a tiger (orange) never changes it’s stripes.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:13:28am

re: #91 Charles Johnson

Trump keeps using Pink Floyd’s The Wall as inspiration on how to approach rallies.

Get ‘em up against the Wall. That one doesn’t look right. Who let all this riff raff into the room.

But let media types ignore the fascism, racism, and unmitigated hate and anger that permeates his rallies and rhetoric.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:13:37am

“the problem is nobody wants to hurt anyone anymore”

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:14:10am

re: #87 Lidane

Omarosa: Trump protestors “get what’s coming to them” at rallies

Someone used an unfortunate descriptor for her on an earlier thread.

Although I wouldn’t use the same word, I’m inclined to agree with the sentiment.

Trump’s paying her to get out there and sell, sell, sell. And she has no compunction toward ramping up the hate as much as her boss.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:14:24am
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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:18:43am

re: #94 CuriousLurker

It won’t be just blacks & muslims.

True but one must be mindful of that 140 character limit. :-)

And btw if my tweeting/blogging hits where/as intended, this white boy is gonna be on the list. With a few surprises up my sleeve.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:19:48am
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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:20:21am

re: #99 Charles Johnson

That quote, over the violence at Civil Rights protests would be a great reminder to everyone on the left of what we’re up against.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:20:33am

Trump is wishing for the good old days of the necktie party.

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:21:17am

His desire for violence against protesters is subtle as a fart in a diving bell.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:22:21am
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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:22:30am

This is great. China, the Musical!

Donald Trump Says “China” - Bass Cover by Iggy Jackson Cohen

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:23:15am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

“Ah, it would be so nice, it would be so nice. I won’t say what’s on my mind, folks. I won’t say it. I’m a nice person.”

“I want you to just imagine what I’d like you to do, and then go ahead.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:23:23am

He’s an authoritarian asshole.

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:23:32am

At what point might the SPLC rate Trump a dangerous racist inciter of violence?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:24:23am

re: #109 Great White Snark

At what point might the SPLC rate Trump a dangerous racist inciter of violence?

That’s a good question.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:24:51am

re: #109 Great White Snark

At what point might the SPLC rate Trump a dangerous racist inciter of violence?

When it won’t gain him points in the polls?

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:25:34am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:25:51am

Bernie bros. I can’t wait for this response. Because it would seem that Bernie’s supporters are tapping into something that isn’t right. Or just.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:25:58am

re: #106 makeitstop

I had to send that to one of our VPs since he has had a field day with the whole “China!” thing for a while now.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:27:29am
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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:27:49am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

That’s a good question.

Seconded.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:28:09am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:28:16am

re: #115 Kragar

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Really shows the kind of people they are there.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:28:19am

re: #111 Belafon

When it won’t gain him points in the polls?

Sadly, that’s a good point.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:28:31am

re: #117 wrenchwench

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Could get ugly I’m afraid.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:29:16am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Could get ugly I’m afraid.

It is ugly. It could get uglier.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:29:19am

“…We cannot ignore the fact that the populist sensation of this election hasn’t been Bernie Sanders. It’s been a racist, nationalist demagogue-for-hire with no sincere ideology beyond his own vanity. Mr. Trump is a cipher; his voters love him because he does nothing but hold up a mirror to their basest prejudices and bask in the feedback loop of narcissism. They’re not “afraid”; they’re leading Mr. Trump as much as following him. They called him into being, not the other way around.”

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:30:22am

re: #117 wrenchwench

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:30:30am

re: #115 Kragar

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Did they publish any such article?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:31:35am

re: #113 lawhawk

I have a friend on Twitter who had talked about Bernie some but then it dropped off. We had a conversation in DMs a few weeks ago about how one of the few hashtags I have blocked on Twitter is related to Bernie.

This is someone who supported him but now won’t talk about him on Twitter at all because the harassment that comes up from fellow supporters is too much.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:32:02am

Here it is - video showing Trump’s campaign manager grabbing Michelle Fields.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:33:34am

re: #121 wrenchwench

It is ugly. It could get uglier.

Yes, godo point.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:33:35am

re: #115 Kragar

From the article:

Contrary to what Donald Trump said Thursday evening after the GOP debate, the incident certainly happened.

So is Legum lying?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:34:22am

They started the national conversation by their callous fuck them attitude.

Hillary! I cannot believe you said this.

(Reagan started off a prayer breakfast by saying GAY = Got Aids Yet?)

FUCK

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:35:03am

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have a friend on Twitter who had talked about Bernie some but then it dropped off. We had a conversation in DMs a few weeks ago about how one of the few hashtags I have blocked on Twitter is related to Bernie.

This is someone who supported him but now won’t talk about him on Twitter at all because the harassment that comes up from fellow supporters is too much.

He certainly has attracted a zealous following.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:35:20am

re: #124 Nyet

From Breitbart: “Video Emerges to Suggest WaPo Reporter Ben Terris Misidentifies Lewandowski in Fields Incident”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:35:47am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

They started the national conversation by their callous fuck them attitude.

Hillary! I cannot believe you said this.

(Reagan started off a prayer breakfast by saying GAY = Got Aids Yet?)

FUCK

[Embedded content]

Right. Sometimes it’s better just not to say anything.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:35:58am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

They started the national conversation by their callous fuck them attitude.

Hillary! I cannot believe you said this.

(Reagan started off a prayer breakfast by saying GAY = Got Aids Yet?)

FUCK

[Embedded content]

Yeah, by ignoring it.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:36:18am

Unbelievable.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:36:29am

re: #131 Kragar

From Breitbart: “Video Emerges to Suggest WaPo Reporter Ben Terris Misidentifies Lewandowski in Fields Incident”

The article never says or implies that Fields was “lying about being assaulted “. Legum is the one lying.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:36:31am

re: #77 No Depression

the violence will probably begin on election day when Trump supporters try to keep others from voting.

I really worry about this. I hope people planning the polling place logistics arrange for more security than usual. They had better also screen the security details regarding willingness to turn a blind eye to any kind of menacing thuggery.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:37:40am

I never knew about the Got Aids Yet joke. Yet another reason.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:37:46am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:38:36am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

They started the national conversation by their callous fuck them attitude.

Hillary! I cannot believe you said this.

(Reagan started off a prayer breakfast by saying GAY = Got Aids Yet?)

FUCK

[Embedded content]

Can we retire the term “national conversation” please.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:39:52am

re: #138 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

It was waaaaay too late.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:40:23am
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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:40:37am

re: #42 freetoken

she’s coming off as really old… and she is.

makes me wonder who is writing her column.

She may just recycle some of her earlier stuff. Who would know?

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:40:44am
144
jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:40:54am
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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:41:26am

re: #139 b.d.

Can we retire the term “national conversation” please.

It’s like a blue ribbon commission, it’s a nice sounding phrase that doesn’t actually get anything done. No way any politician is going to let something like that be retired.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:42:07am

/shrug

Sorry, I’m sick. I’ve got a limited amount of outrage today and I’m saving it for the candidate who’s actually trying to incite violence at his rallies.

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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:42:38am

re: #144 jaunte

why is half the crowd furious at Trump?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:43:19am

Clinton’s complement of Nancy Reagan was insensitive and based on falsehoods, but it is like nine thousand lines down the list of things that concern me about our political climate right now.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:43:32am

re: #147 KGxvi

why is half the crowd furious at Trump?

No one’s been killed yet would be my guess.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:44:10am

re: #147 KGxvi

Maybe just her impression; there are a lot of people there who are not fans.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:44:18am

re: #109 Great White Snark

At what point might the SPLC rate Trump a dangerous racist inciter of violence?

If Trump gets the GOP nomination, SPLC will have to go through massive contortions to avoid putting the GOP on its list of hate groups.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:44:20am

re: #148 Testy Toad T

Clinton’s complement of Nancy Reagan was insensitive and based on falsehoods, but it is like nine thousand lines down the list of things that concern me about our political climate right now.

True. Much more bothered by the very real violence going on at Trump rallies.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:44:23am

re: #141 Kragar

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Nojay UK  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:45:58am

re: #148 Testy Toad T

Clinton’s complement of Nancy Reagan was insensitive and based on falsehoods,

It is a First Lady attending and speaking at another First Lady’s funeral. It is not a stump speech, it is not a truth-telling.

Oh, and it’s “compliment”.

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:46:26am

re: #44 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And many people think younger folks are not as bigoted. Sad. They learn it from their parents, relatives and friends and it is helped along by the RWNJ media.

I know one thing…it will never be eliminated in my lifetime. Maybe never.

To me, this is what I call man’s “original sin.” Even if I learned that as a Catholic schoolboy, many religious teachings to me are based on real human traits and are humanist/secular. Original sin to me means humans are born animals and need to be taught how to be human. Some just stay animals because it is easy.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:46:32am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:46:48am

re: #2 Nyet

Meanwhile here’s a Trump supporter naming him/herself Andreas of Rinn and William of Norwich (google those names) complaining about “Nazis”:

[Embedded content]

Martyrs of alleged “blood libel” of teh Eebil Juice

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:48:05am

re: #155 ObserverArt

And many people think younger folks are not as bigoted. Sad. They learn it from their parents, relatives and friends and it is helped along by the RWNJ media.

I know one thing…it will never be eliminated in my lifetime. Maybe never.

To me, this is what I call man’s “original sin.” Even if I learned that as a Catholic schoolboy, many religious teachings to me are based on real human traits and are humanist/secular. Original sin to me means humans are born animals and need to be taught how to be human. Some just stay animals because it is easy.

It’ll never be fully eliminated. The only thing we can hope to is reduce it. I’m not surprised at all to see alot kids who are bigots. Bigoted parents are going to raise bigoted kids. Some of these kids may change as they age but then again some won’t.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:48:17am

re: #154 Nojay UK

It is a First Lady attending and speaking at another First Lady’s funeral. It is not a stump speech, it is not a truth-telling.

Oh, and it’s “compliment”.

And it’s very vague. At Trumps funeral, someone can talk about him “restarting the conversation on race.”

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:48:22am

re: #157 The Vicious Babushka

I think there’s also Simon of Trent playing around under Shapiro’s tweets…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:48:48am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Someone needs to photoshop animals having sex on that tv.

Who is watching Nature?

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:49:24am

This really is fascism coming to America. All that the GOP base was waiting for was a sufficiently charismatic leader to lead them in this direction, and Trump is doing just that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:50:02am

I remember priding our country on the fact that our right was never quite as batshit as the European far right. I was very wrong about that.

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:50:09am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Breaking up is hard to do!

Breaking Up Is Hard To Do (Slow)

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:50:19am

Very tempted to gather a number of good strong minded folks to protest the shit out of a Trump rally here in SoCal. “navigate the waters” as it were.

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:50:21am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

They started the national conversation by their callous fuck them attitude.

Hillary! I cannot believe you said this.

(Reagan started off a prayer breakfast by saying GAY = Got Aids Yet?)

FUCK

[Embedded content]

Man it’s hard to be enthusiastic about this election. Hillary and Bernie both suck in their own special ways, but they’re both way better than the alternatives. I wish my motivation to vote could be based more on positive enthusiasm than hatred and fear of the Republican candidates, but it is what it is.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:50:29am

Not sure I can really do this again in 4 hours:

LIVE Donald Trump Chicago Illinois Rally FULL SPEECH HD Pavillon University Huge Crowd 6:00 PM CST ✔

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:51:27am

In Chicago Trump will be on a university campus. I guess we’ll see if the college kids of today are like the ones in the 1960’s.

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:51:28am

re: #148 Testy Toad T

For all the problems that administration did or did not have, I will simply not ever understand the need for funeral day vitriol.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:51:31am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I remember priding our country on the fact that our right was never quite as batshit as the European far right.

You didn’t know about the KKK? /

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:51:41am

re: #165 Great White Snark

Very tempted to gather a number of good strong minded folks to protest the shit out of a Trump rally here in SoCal. “navigate the waters” as it were.

I’m in.

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Jayleia  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:51:51am

re: #67 lockjawcanbefun

Except without the taste and manners.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:52:22am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Oh my gawd. No.

[Embedded content]

We need to have a CAN’T BE UNSEEN PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK YOU MAY BE SCARRED FOR LIFE YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAUMA tag.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:52:34am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

I remember priding our country on the fact that our right was never quite as batshit as the European far right. I was very wrong about that.

The two party system ends up amplifying the power of the lunatic right-wing fringe in the US, because when they capture the GOP (as they have done), millions of less crazy people will still continue to vote GOP because of insane party loyalty.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:52:43am

This is sort of interesting. George has made it known he can’t stand Ted and I don’t think Jeb can either but brother Neil is on board.
usatoday.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:53:21am

re: #170 Nyet

You didn’t know about the KKK? /

Of course, I did. But the KKK had been declining for years. This was pre-Obama by the way.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:53:44am

re: #174 EPR-radar

The two party system ends up amplifying the power of the lunatic right-wing fringe in the US, because when they capture the GOP (as they have done), millions of less crazy people will still continue to vote GOP because of insane party loyalty.

Yep. It’s party loyalty above principle that causes this shit to happen.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:54:53am

re: #154 Nojay UK

It is a First Lady attending and speaking at another First Lady’s funeral. It is not a stump speech, it is not a truth-telling.

Oh, and it’s “compliment”.

I figure it’s ‘De mortuis nil nisi bonum’, being a funeral and all. And the Reagans did start caring about AIDS - around the time somebody they knew died of it. Yes, prior to that the silence was deafening.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:55:19am

The new video seems to put a stop to doubts about the identity of the attacker - it was Lewandowski.
But what I wrote about double hearsay earlier holds true, as Matthew Boyle now denies that Lewandowski ever confessed to him:
washingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:55:24am

re: #56 lawhawk

The US spends more than the next 10 countries do on military spending. That includes spending by our allies France and the UK.

So, when I hear right wingers complaining about how the President has gutted the military, I have to wonder what they’re even talking about. We have more aircraft carriers, subs, and stealth fighters/bombers, and 5G aircraft than anyone else. We have more UAVs (with kill-capabilities).

What “gutted the military” is apparently code for is that the President isn’t willing to bomb some corner of the globe into rubble; he’s more willing to consider diplomacy first.

But no damn horses and bayonets!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:56:25am

There is a portion of Twitter that is very much addicted to outrage.

There’s a lot of problems with this, but one of which is that if everything gets reacted to like it is the WORST THING IN THE WORLD then it becomes a lot harder to determine nuance and why things actually should be paid attention to. The boy who cried wolf writ at large.

Actually the lack of nuance would be a reason I don’t talk politics on Twitter. Or other substantive issues. It’s not the right medium for it, in my opinion. I’m not good enough at distilling a thought down to 140 characters and keeping the nuance intact.

I know this won’t matter. It’s a voice in the wind trying to be reasonable, and reasonable doesn’t sell. But if I personally want to be happy with myself, I can’t live as an outrage addict.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:56:26am

re: #178 Blind Frog Belly White

I figure it’s ‘De mortuis nil nisi bonum’, being a funeral and all. And the Reagans did start caring about AIDS - around the time somebody they knew died of it. Yes, prior to that the silence was deafening.

I think that’s what it is too. I am not too upset about it but what you say is very true. It was only when the Reagans lost a personal friend to AIDS that they acknowledged its reality. And that frankly is so symptomatic of conservatism many issues.

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:57:08am

re: #167 freetoken

Not sure I can really do this again in 4 hours:

[Embedded content]

Why would you want to?

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:57:22am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Yep. It’s party loyalty above principle that causes this shit to happen.

That’s why I’m often harder on the GOP moderates than the gibbering wingnuts. The moderates should damn well know better, but just keep on enabling all this wingnut shit.

The US is a democracy. If more than 50% of the voters truly are wingnuts, then this little experiment in self governance will end sooner rather than later.

But we don’t have 50+% wingnuts in the voters, so Republican moderates really do have a duty to bolt from the party before it comes to that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:57:56am

re: #184 EPR-radar

That’s why I’m often harder on the GOP moderates than the gibbering wingnuts. The moderates should damn well know better, but just keep on enabling all this wingnut shit.

The US is a democracy. If more than 50% of the voters truly are wingnuts, then this little experiment in self governance will end sooner rather than later.

But we don’t have 50+% wingnuts in the voters, so Republican moderates really do have a duty to bolt from the party before it comes to that.

You know it, the so called moderates enable the extremists by MBFing and choosing their party over principle.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:59:03am

re: #181 klys (maker of Silmarils)

There is a portion of Twitter that is very much addicted to outrage.

There’s a lot of problems with this, but one of which is that if everything gets reacted to like it is the WORST THING IN THE WORLD then it becomes a lot harder to determine nuance and why things actually should be paid attention to. The boy who cried wolf writ at large.

Actually the lack of nuance would be a reason I don’t talk politics on Twitter. Or other substantive issues. It’s not the right medium for it, in my opinion. I’m not good enough at distilling a thought down to 140 characters and keeping the nuance intact.

I know this won’t matter. It’s a voice in the wind trying to be reasonable, and reasonable doesn’t sell. But if I personally want to be happy with myself, I can’t live as an outrage addict.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:59:54am

re: #186 wrenchwench

This is the right and proper use of Twitter, for me.

Also talking video games, fandom, cross stitch photos, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:00:08pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

They started the national conversation by their callous fuck them attitude.

Hillary! I cannot believe you said this.

(Reagan started off a prayer breakfast by saying GAY = Got Aids Yet?)

FUCK

[Embedded content]

I had to Google that, and I found it in p. 474 Randy Shilts book. It was not Reagan who said that, it was the CEO of American Airlines

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:00:19pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

You know it, the so called moderates enable the extremists by MBFing and choosing their party over principle.

My patience for moderates pretending to be civilized people while continuing to enable extremist shit by voting GOP is officially at an end.

Seeing fascism rising in the country as an organic outcome of decades of GOP propaganda will do that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:01:25pm

re: #187 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is the right and proper use of Twitter, for me.

Also talking video games, fandom, cross stitch photos, etc.

sports too. But yeah I hate it as a medium for talking politics. I don’t have my account anymore. I mean 140 characters or fewer makes it hard to have a real substantial discussion about complex amtters.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:02:07pm

re: #188 The Vicious Babushka

I had to Google that, and I found it in p. 474 Randy Shilts book. It was not Reagan who said that, it was the CEO of American Airlines

Ah okay. Good to know. Man what an asshole.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:03:24pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

sports too. But yeah I hate it as a medium for talking politics. I don’t have my account anymore. I mean 140 characters or fewer makes it hard to have a real substantial discussion about complex amtters.

I have a lot of female hockey fan friends from Twitter, which is great! It’s really awesome to have a group of friends who are aware of some of the stupid things the league does but also still like the sport.

And I can ramble about silly things, and keep up with some friends, and I watch the outrages go by and just …that must be so exhausting, to all the time be so ANGRY. And it’s not just the right that does this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:03:42pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

sports too. But yeah I hate it as a medium for talking politics. I don’t have my account anymore. I mean 140 characters or fewer makes it hard to have a real substantial discussion about complex amtters.

Which is why it works so well for the Right - the daily outrage is easy to convey in 140 characters. Explaining why it’s bullshit takes more.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:06:22pm

re: #192 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have a lot of female hockey fan friends from Twitter, which is great! It’s really awesome to have a group of friends who are aware of some of the stupid things the league does but also still like the sport.

And I can ramble about silly things, and keep up with some friends, and I watch the outrages go by and just …that must be so exhausting, to all the time be so ANGRY. And it’s not just the right that does this.

Yeah sometimes people just need to take a sigh and realize it’s not worth it. There’s a lot of things to be pissed off about in this world but there’s alot of good oto.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:15:20pm

re: #166 No Depression

Man it’s hard to be enthusiastic about this election. Hillary and Bernie both suck in their own special ways, but they’re both way better than the alternatives. I wish my motivation to vote could be based more on positive enthusiasm than hatred and fear of the Republican candidates, but it is what it is.

Hillary may not be perfected, but she is smart, she works hard, she is extremely well prepared, and she is on the right side of the issues. No other candidate in the race is remotely as well qualified as she is to be President.


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