New Video From C-SPAN Shows Trump Campaign Manager Reaching for Breitbart Reporter’s Arm

Michelle Fields files criminal complaint against Corey Lewandowski
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In the continuing saga of the alleged assault of Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields by Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, Fields has now filed a criminal complaint against Lewandowski.

The police report alleges battery on the part of Lewandowski and was filed in Jupiter, Florida, where the incident took place. The Jupiter Police Department emailed Mother Jones a press release stating that it is “currently investigating an alleged battery,” and confirming that a police report was filed on Friday at 10 a.m.

But the website Fields works for, Breitbart “News,” is now sliming their own reporter: Video Emerges to Suggest WaPo Reporter Ben Terris Misidentifies Lewandowski in Fields Incident.

Amazingly sleazy, even for one of the sleaziest right wing sites on the web.

Washington Post reporter Ben Terris is standing by his account: Washington Post reporter rebuts Breitbart story about possible mistaken identity in Michelle Fields incident.

Terris isn’t budging. “I saw what I saw,” said Terris in a brief chat with this blog. During the whole incident, says Terris, he had his “eyes trained on Corey Lewandowski,” because Terris was there to profile the campaign team with a focus on Lewandowski. Terris took strong issue with Pollak’s assertion that mistaken identity is the “likeliest explanation” based in part on Lewandowski’s denials. “Because he denied it?” asked Terris. “This is Breitbart.” The Daily Beast, citing “sources,” reported that Lewandowski had acknowledged to Breitbart News’s Matthew Boyle having grabbed Fields. “Lewandowski’s explanation to Boyle, said these sources, was that he and Fields had never met before and that he didn’t recognize her as a Breitbart reporter, instead mistaking her for an adversarial member of the mainstream media.”

“This is Breitbart.” Exactly.

But a new video has now emerged from C-SPAN that supports Michelle Fields’ story. This clip clearly shows Lewandowski reaching for Fields’ arm at the 9 second mark.

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157 comments
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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:55:32am

“he didn’t recognize her as a Breitbart reporter, instead mistaking her for an adversarial member of the mainstream media.”

Because assaulting anyone is all good when they might be against your candidate, right?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:57:05am

“Adversarial”, but we just want more passion and ass-kicking out there in the crowd.

I just… what does it take to make the media collectively snap, and decisively take the side of freedom and decency?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:58:27am

re: #1 Kragar

“he didn’t recognize her as a Breitbart reporter, instead mistaking her for an adversarial member of the mainstream media.”

Because assaulting anyone is all good when they might be against your candidate, right?

That seems to be the message here, yes.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:58:35am
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:58:56am

So, it’s a friendly fire incident.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:59:07am

In short, our campaign is so thin skinned that we have to resort to violence everytime we feel our candidate is threatened in any way. What a bunch of thin skinned freaks the Trump camp is.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:59:19am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:59:57am

re: #7 Kragar

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And is the oldest self hating woman in the universe.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:00:36pm

I don’t see where the Breitbart article “slimes” Fields. They agree that the incident happened, try to cast doubt on the identity of the perpetrator:

Contrary to what Donald Trump said Thursday evening after the GOP debate, the incident certainly happened. However, the person who made contact with Fields was likely not Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.
[…]
Fields relied in good faith on Terris’s confirmation, and later assertions, that the person who touched her was Lewandowski.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:01:34pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

In short, our campaign is so thin skinned that we have to resort to violence everytime we feel our candidate is threatened slighted in any way. What a bunch of thin skinned freaks the Trump camp is.

FTFY

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:02:33pm

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

FTFY

Good point.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:03:49pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:04:09pm

This is America in the 21st century. Anyone who expected US fascists to obligingly dress in brown shirts to facilitate identification was being an idiot.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:05:19pm

re: #12 Kragar

Never fuck with the Sys Admin.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:05:46pm
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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:06:11pm

re: #12 Kragar

More fuel for the Islamist conspiracy theorists: “ISIS was Mossad’s trap from the start!”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:07:10pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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It’s been a tough year for music so far. Don’t really know too much of EMP but I thought Lucky Man was a catchy tune.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:07:34pm

re: #14 Belafon

Never fuck with the Sys Admin.

That is AWESOME!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:09:05pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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Aw, shit.

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:11:07pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

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Damn. This is a bad year for a lot of musicians I grew to love. Got to see Emerson Lake and Palmer on their first tour of America.

Oh, what a lucky man I was!

R.I.P. Keith

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:11:30pm

From the ‘you can’t make this shit up’ file, the GOP is whining that their SCOTUS obstruction is being criticized:

Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.) suggested Thursday that Democrats had violated Senate rules with their weeks-long rhetorical attacks on Sen. Chuck Grassley’s Supreme Court strategy.

“I think to objective observers that what has ensued over the last week or two has been a concentrated effort to impugn the reputation and honor of the chairman of the Judiciary Committee,” he said.

That’s easy. Grassley now has the reputation of being a meat-puppet for the worst elements of his party, and his honor is simply non-existent.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:11:35pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

This is America in the 21st century. Anyone who expected US fascists to obligingly dress in brown shirts to facilitate identification was being an idiot.

The blond pompadour is the new square mustache.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:11:40pm

re: #13 EPR-radar

That really needs expansion.

People who object to calling Trumpism being an emerging fascistic movement just because Trump and his campaign aren’t the same as Hitler in the early 20th century miss the point that now 90 years later a similar movement will not be identical.

Trumpism is about getting groups of people riled up to physically silence critics, about undoing a century of increasing awareness about the importance of how we treat each, and of replacing the ideal of civil rights with a triumphant nationalism.

Trumpism is not about wearing brown shirts or wearing swastikas.

The fashion has changed. The essential message has not.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:13:31pm

re: #9 Nyet

I don’t see where the Breitbart article “slimes” Fields. They agree that the incident happened, try to cast doubt on the identity of the perpetrator:

They’re clearly implying Fields and WaPo’s Ben Terris are lying:

New video of Donald Trump’s press conference Tuesday evening shows that the Washington Post’s account of an altercation involving Breitbart News reporter Michelle Fields could not possibly have happened as Ben Terris reported.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:14:07pm

And the video they posted does not back up this claim at all.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:15:49pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

From the ‘you can’t make this shit up’ file, the GOP is whining that their SCOTUS obstruction is being criticized:

That’s easy. Grassley now has the reputation of being a meat-puppet for the worst elements of his party, and his honor is simply non-existent.

This is fucking rich. You know GOP, if you’re going to pull this kind of shit, at least have the dignity to accept the repercussions on the issues instead of acting like a bunch of sissies.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:16:41pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

They’re clearly implying Fields and WaPo’s Ben Terris are lying:

No, they’re very explicitly stating - in the very excerpts which I quoted in the comment you are replying to - that Fields was not lying but was relying on Terris in good faith.

They put Terris’ story in doubt, not Fields’, since Fields never claimed to have seen who had grabbed her.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:17:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:18:02pm

re: #27 Nyet

Sorry, I disagree. They’re using weasel words to avoid coming right out and saying it, but their intention is very clear - they’re undercutting their own reporter.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:18:20pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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Was about to post that, notice he’s not cuffed anymore

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:18:30pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

This is fucking rich. You know GOP, if you’re going to pull this kind of shit, at least have the dignity to accept the repercussions on the issues instead of acting like a bunch of sissies.

This whole blockade is occurring because they don’t have the courage to just vote ‘no’ on a nominee.

The GOP really is the party of gutless wonders. In fact, such a concentration of pure cowardice has perhaps never before been seen in history.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:18:56pm

re: #15 FormerDirtDart

NOOOOOO.

Damn… Just damn. My only concert with back stage passes was to an ELP concert at GSPAC, and he was really nice and happy to sign autographs.

Hoedown - Emerson, Lake & Palmer

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:19:49pm

re: #31 EPR-radar

I know it’s probably hard for Obama to find someone who’s probably just going to take one for the team (country), but I wish he’d announce a nominee soon.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:20:14pm

re: #12 Kragar

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The report below from yesterday morning has quite a few more details. German federal criminal police say they’re in possession of a copy of the files & believe them to be authentic. I hope this is the death knell for that group.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:20:38pm

re: #33 Belafon

I know it’s probably hard for Obama to find someone who’s probably just going to take one for the team (country), but I wish he’d announce a nominee soon.

I do too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:21:07pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

And the video they posted does not back up this claim at all.

Since when would that matter to Breitbart?

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gocart mozart  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:21:46pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:24:23pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:24:55pm

@NatSecCNN U.S. spy satellites, aircraft, and ships have been secretly watching for days as the North Korean Navy searched for the missing sub.

@NatSecCNN The U.S. is unsure if the missing vessel is adrift under the sea or whether it has sunk, the officials said,

@NatSecCNN U.S. officials believe it suffered some type of failure during an exercise.

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TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:25:24pm

re: #2 Testy Toad T

“Adversarial”, but we just want more passion and ass-kicking out there in the crowd.

I just… what does it take to make the media collectively snap, and decisively take the side of freedom and decency?

Just as soon Trump’s ratings start tanking and/or the advertisers start pulling accounts.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:26:01pm

The POTUS livestream for SXSW will start soon:

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:26:12pm
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TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:26:27pm

re: #12 Kragar

re: #14 Belafon

Never fuck with the Sys Admin.

A true BOFH.

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Ubiq  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:27:49pm

re: #33 Belafon

I know it’s probably hard for Obama to find someone who’s probably just going to take one for the team (country), but I wish he’d announce a nominee soon.

I may be overthinking it, but I think Obama’s playing high level chess here. He’s got ‘em in a box. Keep it in the news. Wait for some Senate primaries to gain a little shape. Be sure that Trump is the nominee.

Then start pounding the senators running for reelection that they want to let Donald Trump choose a supreme court justice. If Trump is as unpopular with the general public as most people are betting on, it could help with downballot races, and unify the progressives in the party once Hillary/Bernie shakes out.

At any rate, I think March 15th elections will dramatically shape what the right path is.

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gocart mozart  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:28:08pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:29:21pm
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:30:30pm
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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:31:00pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart

The North Korean subs are ancient by modern standards. They have about 20 Romeo class subs, the design for which dates back to 1957. Those are being phased out in favor of a home-grown variant called the Sang-O. They’re tiny by comparison to US or Russian subs, and are most likely to be used for infiltration/special ops, rather than trying to sink ships since they have room for only two torpedoes.

However, since they’re electric subs, they are very quiet in littoral water scenarios.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:31:32pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Sorry, I disagree. They’re using weasel words to avoid coming right out and saying it, but their intention is very clear - they’re undercutting their own reporter.

There is nothing to disagree about. The words “in good faith” are there, in black and white, and not a single hint of accusation of dishonesty. Simply. Not. There.

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TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:32:32pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Sorry, I disagree. They’re using weasel words to avoid coming right out and saying it, but their intention is very clear - they’re undercutting their own reporter.

Exactly…they’ve left their own reporter flapping in the breeze, because Breitbart (like many in the media) is absolutely scared shitless over the prospect that Trump might cut off their access if they continue to back Fields.

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:33:05pm

re: #44 Ubiq

I may be overthinking it, but I think Obama’s playing high level chess here. He’s got ‘em in a box. Keep it in the news. Wait for some Senate primaries to gain a little shape. Be sure that Trump is the nominee.

Then start pounding the senators running for reelection that they want to let Donald Trump choose a supreme court justice. If Trump is as unpopular with the general public as most people are betting on, it could help with downballot races, and unify the progressives in the party once Hillary/Bernie shakes out.

At any rate, I think March 15th elections will dramatically shape what the right path is.

I be liking the way you are thinking.

And as we have seen time and time again…Obama is pretty deft at making them their own worst enemies.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:33:34pm

re: #31 EPR-radar

This whole blockade is occurring because they don’t have the courage to just vote ‘no’ on a nominee.

The GOP really is the party of gutless wonders. In fact, such a concentration of pure cowardice has perhaps never before been seen in history.

I should add that if the GOPers actually believed their own bullshit, they should welcome a chance to show to the nation how Obama’s nominee is some kind of extremist, and that voting no on the nomination is the right thing to do.

But such reality-based thinking is completely alien to the GOP.

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KGxvi  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:36:23pm

I still just don’t understand how a man who managed to send four casinos into bankruptcy, while running them, can be considered a good businessman. That is the antithesis of being a good businessman.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:36:34pm

Wow such classy very President

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:37:00pm

re: #49 Nyet

I’m finished arguing about this with you.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:38:11pm

re: #53 KGxvi

I still just don’t understand how a man who managed to send four casinos into bankruptcy, while running them, can be considered a good businessman. That is the antithesis of being a good businessman.

Outside of his core competency - real estate - his businesses have been invariably failures. Airlines. Football. Casinos. Liquor. Water. Steaks.

All failed businesses.

But he’s branded his name as something synonymous with success, so that trumps Trump failures.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:40:05pm

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:42:24pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:42:56pm

I think Trump supporters are happy to overlook anything TRUMP has failed at for what they hope he promises to do for them. Kick out the Mexicans and Muslims, put the Black people in their place, mess with China and other ‘job takers’ promise them jobs/money and insurance that show up Obama and allow them to really get their hate on.

The rest is just pesky details.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:45:39pm
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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:46:02pm

First rule of text interpretation: read interpretation from the text, not into it.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:48:32pm

re: #61 Nyet

First rule of text interpretation: read interpretation from the text, not into it.

And the first thing I find out is that it came from Breitbart, which means that whatever they’re saying is full of shit.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:49:41pm

re: #61 Nyet

First rule of Context: Know your source.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:50:29pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:50:39pm

re: #48 lawhawk

The North Korean subs are ancient by modern standards. They have about 20 Romeo class subs, the design for which dates back to 1957. Those are being phased out in favor of a home-grown variant called the Sang-O. They’re tiny by comparison to US or Russian subs, and are most likely to be used for infiltration/special ops, rather than trying to sink ships since they have room for only two torpedoes.

However, since they’re electric subs, they are very quiet in littoral water scenarios.

The Romeo type (Soviet Project 633) has some ocean going capability and carries 14 torpedos. At 1470 tons (1830 submerged), it is more than 5 times as large as the otherwise more modern Sang-O. Neither has very many secrets, since western navies have had Romeos for close inspection for decades, while a Sang-O was captured intact in 1996.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:51:23pm

re: #64 Kragar

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Too much irony in my diet.

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No Country For Old Haters  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:53:08pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Insane. Wising up regarding the hateful right is the exact opposite of supporting Trump.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:53:09pm

re: #63 Kragar

First rule of Context: Know your source.

Context helps to interpret ambiguous cases. This is not the one.

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TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:53:35pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

lolwut?

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:57:12pm

Context: Trump and his goons and Breitbart.

I wouldn’t trust them with any words because of who is behind it. Also, behavior pattern is just as important.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:57:48pm

One shirt should use the phrase WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GOAT AGAIN.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 12:59:03pm
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withak  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:02:39pm

Diner’s ‘Dictator Obama’ special makes national news by mixing politics, eggs

This starts out as your typical “outspoken conservative restaurant owner” story, but it gets good at the end.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:03:00pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

Goats do Roam.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:04:37pm

re: #73 withak

Diner’s ‘Dictator Obama’ special makes national news by mixing politics, eggs

This starts out as your typical “outspoken conservative restaurant owner” story, but it gets good at the end.

Ha oops. Guy and his wife sound like a pair of assholes.

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TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:06:48pm

re: #70 ObserverArt

Context: Trump and his goons and Breitbart.

I wouldn’t trust them with any words because of who is behind it. Also, behavior pattern is just as important.

In the updates on this over at Breitbart, it seems to me that they’re just bending over backwards to avoid, at all costs, saying that Lewandowski had his hands on Fields, even after the C-SPAN video came out and Terris reiterated his statement.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:08:28pm

re: #70 ObserverArt

Context: Trump and his goons and Breitbart.

I wouldn’t trust them with any words because of who is behind it. Also, behavior pattern is just as important.

The article uses exactly the expressions one uses when one puts a person’s words in doubt without impugning their integrity. There are no discernible double meanings or undercurrents there, at least none one could cite until this moment. Whereas it is explicit about Fields not lying. Occam’s razor, burden of proof etc.

Also don’t forget that Fields is a Breitbrat. Should one trust her on anything?

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KingKenrod  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:09:48pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Sorry, I disagree. They’re using weasel words to avoid coming right out and saying it, but their intention is very clear - they’re undercutting their own reporter.

Yes, they’re trying to have it both ways. They don’t want to anger the Trump campaign, don’t want to call their reporter a liar.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:09:55pm

Clearly, the GOP needs to be banned from this country, not Muslims.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:12:45pm

re: #77 Nyet

The article uses exactly the expressions one uses when one puts a person’s words in doubt without impugning their integrity. There are no discernible double meanings or undercurrents there, at least none one could cite until this moment. Whereas it is explicit about Fields not lying. Occam’s razor, burden of proof etc.

Also don’t forget that Fields is a Breitbrat. Should one trust her on anything?

Really?:

“New video of Donald Trump’s press conference Tuesday evening shows that the Washington Post’s account of an altercation involving Breitbart News reporter Michelle Fields could not possibly have happened as Ben Terris reported.”

Obviously the target is more Terris, but what’s the implication when Fields is standing by what Terris said?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:13:02pm

re: #79 Dr. Matt

Clearly, the GOP needs to be banned from this country, not Muslims.

We could put up big signs that say “This Way To The Great Egress!”, leading to Mexico. That should work for a lot of them.

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CleverToad  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:14:04pm

re: #32 lawhawk

NOOOOOO.

Damn… Just damn. My only concert with back stage passes was to an ELP concert at GSPAC, and he was really nice and happy to sign autographs.

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Video

Flashing back to Laserium, 1974 & ‘75 — summer nights in City Park, lined up for the shows at the planetarium at the Denver Museum of Natural History. Damn is right. Glad I got to see some of the things I’ve seen.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:15:22pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

We could put up big signs that say “This Way To The Great Egress!”, leading to Mexico. That should work for a lot of them.

Find a long peer on the east coast, and have the sign say “Other white people that way.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:15:38pm

re: #81 Dr. Matt

Trump supporters are violent has moved from association to causation:

Trio face criminal street gang charges after pulling gun on Trump supporter and saying ‘Spanish words’

Second white-on-black assault caught on video from horrifying Trump rally in North Carolina

‘F*ck you, you whore!’: Watch angry white people go berserk outside Trump rally in St. Louis

On my FB feed earlier this week, there was a post from some conservative hellhole, with the video of the Secret Service Agent choke-slamming the Time photog. The title read, “The Best Thing You’ll See All Week”.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:16:17pm

re: #72 Kragar

@Olivianuzzi
Kurt Bardella quits as Breitbart spokesman amid Michelle Fields assault controversy, via @RosieGray

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:21:01pm

re: #77 Nyet

The article uses exactly the expressions one uses when one puts a person’s words in doubt without impugning their integrity. There are no discernible double meanings or undercurrents there, at least none one could cite until this moment. Whereas it is explicit about Fields not lying. Occam’s razor, burden of proof etc.

Also don’t forget that Fields is a Breitbrat. Should one trust her on anything?

I’m just not trusting anyone involved. That is all.

I am not going to make any assumptions anyone in this mess is telling the truth. To me it is like going into a snake pit and asking for the most truthful snake that promises not to bite me. They are all snakes. They bite…it is what they do.

Maybe I am being simplistic, but it works with snakes. I avoid them

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:25:06pm

The Dow is bouncing back…..which means Twitter is bouncing back: +1.2% for the day. Rage Furby is going to be sadz.

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:26:21pm

re: #83 CleverToad

Flashing back to Laserium, 1974 & ‘75 — summer nights in City Park, lined up for the shows at the planetarium at the Denver Museum of Natural History. Damn is right. Glad I got to see some of the things I’ve seen.

I saw them at a small liberal arts college here in Ohio…Wooster College. I never saw so much sound equipment surrounding the entire arena so they could get that rotating and bounce around effect. I will never forget Keith standing between all his keyboards and playing with both hands. And I will never forget Greg Lakes smooth voice.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:26:30pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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That particular protester in the picture who was beaten and bloodied was taken away in handcuffs to the hospital and then released without charges.

Because handcuffing the black guy who was beaten up by a white mob is how the police roll in Trump America.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:28:08pm

Dragging this up from the last thread:

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:30:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:30:50pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Dragging this up from the last thread:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:31:09pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

And there’s this that just went across on Twitter:

Not that any of it matters to those who want to be offended.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:31:31pm

re: #92 Dr. Matt

Spoiler that, please.

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:32:19pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:33:25pm

re: #90 Aunty Entity Dragon

That particular protester in the picture who was beaten and bloodied was taken away in handcuffs to the hospital and then released without charges.

Because handcuffing the black guy who was beaten up by a white mob is how the police roll in Trump America.

Trump should address his adoring fans from a golden throne set high above the crowd…like a Roman Emperor’s Throne set up on many steps covered in rich dark red carpet. And then with a wave of his stubby handy he can have anyone he wants ‘removed.’

And with that back way later after the Friday night jams. Be good to each other.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:33:41pm

re: #94 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And there’s this that just went across on Twitter:

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Not that any of it matters to those who want to be offended.

It was a real serious deal at the time. A lot of people were offended for a reason.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:34:43pm

I’ll give the Texas Tribune guy credit. He’s aggressive and trying his damndest to trip POTUS up, but Obama’s not falling for it.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:37:24pm

re: #97 ObserverArt

Trump should address his adoring fans from a golden throne set high above the crowd…like a Roman Emperor’s Throne set up on many steps covered in rich dark red carpet. And then with a wave of his stubby handy he can have anyone he wants ‘removed.’

And with that back way later after the Friday night jams. Be good to each other.

Pink Floyd - Waiting for the Worms

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:38:09pm

re: #98 Stanley Sea

It was a real serious deal at the time. A lot of people were offended for a reason.

And if they want to continue being offended after the apology, then that is a choice they make.

Sorry if my lack of outrage makes you sad.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:38:23pm

re: #97 ObserverArt

“Remember, thou art mortal.”

“SOMEBODY GET THIS YUUGE LOSER OUTTA HERE!”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:39:13pm
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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:42:08pm

re: #68 Nyet

I read the article earlier. It was quite long. It does indeed say:

Contrary to what Donald Trump said Thursday evening after the GOP debate, the incident certainly happened.

I remember that it took me a while to get to that part. Knowing Breitbart’s reputation, I just went back to get a word count because it’s well known that most people don’t read 100% of an article, word for word, unless they’re very interested in the information. That quoted bit above? It’s approximately 1000 words into a 1700-plus-word article.

Trump supporters will have approached the article with a strong confirmation bias in his favor. The likelihood that the majority of visitors to the sewer that is Breitbart would read that far, word for word, is minuscule. I’m sure Breitbart editors know this. Burying important info deep in a wordy screed is also a favorite trick of Greenwald’s.

My point is that you may be technically correct about the article in much the the same way as you were about that Graeme Wood article that pissed me off, but the dishonesty lies in playing to people’s biases & emotions, not in whether what was said is technically true or not. There is NO WAY these writers don’t know this because writing is their job and clickbait/traffic is king. You can’t separate humans & their cognitive biases from what they read and how they interpret it. It’s part of the equation—a calculated part, IMO.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:42:56pm

re: #14 Belafon

Never fuck with the Sys Admin.

My wife just said pretty much the same thing!

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:44:36pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

It’s been a tough year for music so far. Don’t really know too much of EMP but I thought Lucky Man was a catchy tune.

They were, in modern terms, Yooooge. They actually rented Olympic Stadium in Montreal, in Winter, to cut an 8 minute music video - nearly four years before there was an MTV to play music videos on.

ELP Fanfare For The Common Man - Emerson Lake and Palmer

107
Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:45:31pm

It was probably 1990 or so. My girlfriend & I went to the Planned Parenthood to get tested for HIV.

You had to have a counselling session before the test.

It took 2 weeks for the test to come back.

You had to have 2 people, one a counselor, in the room with you when you got the results.

We hated Reagan’s response while we watched so many people die. (2 cousins in my family)

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:45:57pm

Even though there is clear evidence of the assault, Trump sheeple cultists will continue to hurl vile insults at Michelle Fields while providing unwavering defense of Trump et al. In 2008, Candidate Obama and his campaign operated under “The No Drama Obama” approach. By contrast, Trump operating under “Drama, Violence, and Racism”

109
FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:47:01pm

“Do your job, do your job, do your job, do your job, do your job, do your job,…”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:49:04pm

Breitbart Spokesman Resigns Over Trump Aide Assault: ‘This Shit Just Sucks’

Kurt Bardella, who quit as Breitbart’s spokesman on Friday over the site’s handling of the Michelle Fields assault, says he could no longer go on. “It became untenable for me personally to continue in this situation. If you can’t give 100 percent you can’t represent your client,” Bardella, who also represents country music bands in Nashville, told HuffPost.

“This shit just sucks.”

For Bardella, the violence is getting out of hand, and needs to be called out. “There is this escalating pattern of behavior that’s only happening at Donald Trump events. It’s incredibly dangerous. His rhetoric is unmistakable and it is calculated and it is intentional,” he said. Buzzfeed News first reported Bardella’s resignation.

Asked why Breitbart seems to be siding with the Trump campaign over its own reporter, Bardella said he wasn’t sure. “I think there certainly appears to be conflicting agendas at play here. Your guess is as good as mine,” he said.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:49:41pm
112
Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:52:51pm

re: #80 Mike Lamb

Really?:

“New video of Donald Trump’s press conference Tuesday evening shows that the Washington Post’s account of an altercation involving Breitbart News reporter Michelle Fields could not possibly have happened as Ben Terris reported.”

Obviously the target is more Terris, but what’s the implication when Fields is standing by what Terris said?

Apparently you haven’t read the discussion from the start. They were explicit about Fields’ good faith. The implication is that she made a mistake.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:53:25pm

[deleted]

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:54:09pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

Asked why Breitbart seems to be siding with the Trump campaign over its own reporter, Bardella said he wasn’t sure. “I think there certainly appears to be conflicting agendas at play here. Your guess is as good as mine,” he said.

Misogyny. It’s in conflict with having a female employee.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:54:11pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel

I’m gonna go ahead and say I’m really not comfortable with this comment.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:54:18pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

It’s pretty clear that Kurt Bardella dropped Breitbart “News” as a client because he also thinks they’re sliming Michelle Fields.

Breitbart Spokesman Quits As Trump Campaign Controversy Blows Up

Asked if it would be fair to say he was parting ways with Breitbart because he disagrees with its handling of the situation with Michelle Fields, Bardella said “It would be fair for you to say that” but that he wasn’t going to.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:54:21pm

re: #104 CuriousLurker

By the way, I found out why Graeme Wood is familiar.

He’s friends with Sam Harris.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:54:52pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

Cows are communist?

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:56:16pm

re: #118 Ziggy_TARDIS

Cows are communist?

Don’t take anything from Nein literally. In either language.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:57:39pm

re: #112 Nyet

Apparently you haven’t read the discussion from the start. They were explicit about Fields’ good faith. The implication is that she made a mistake.

No, I read the entirety of it. I find there efforts to call this a mistake to be laughable. They are going after one of their own.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 1:59:36pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:00:48pm

re: #94 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I like the professionalism of the Clinton campaign. When they step in it like they did with Reagan/AIDS, reasonable corrective action occurs.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:00:56pm

re: #115 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m gonna go ahead and say I’m really not comfortable with this comment.

Okay. Since I strive not to make anyone here uncomfortable, except the odd troll, I’ve deleted it.

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blueraven  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:01:41pm

re: #120 Mike Lamb

No, I read the entirety of it. I find there efforts to call this a mistake to be laughable. They are going after one of their own.

I think they are being too cute by using slightly ambiguous language about the reporter’s account. Yes, good faith, but really she is a woman so…Also, they have been in the pocket of big Trump from the get go. Too late to turn back now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:01:53pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel

Okay. Since I strive not to make anyone here uncomfortable, except the odd troll, I’ve deleted it.

Thank you.

The Rage Furby is a horrible human - but he is still human.

126
mr.fusion  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:02:45pm
127
Testy Toad T  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:03:12pm

re: #122 EPR-radar

I like the professionalism of the Clinton campaign. When they step in it like they did with Reagan/AIDS, reasonable corrective action occurs.

She’s just practicing for the inevitable American Apology Tour (TM).

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:03:33pm

re: #117 Ziggy_TARDIS

By the way, I found out why Graeme Wood is familiar.

He’s friends with Sam Harris.

Yes, I know. I went digging for info as soon as I read his article last year.

Thanks for the heads-up anyway.

129
Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:03:53pm

POTUS made a local taco joint here very happy:

Facebook Post

130
Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:04:29pm

re: #128 CuriousLurker

I am on and off a lot, so I didn’t know if you knew.

131
Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:04:29pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thank you.

The Rage Furby is a horrible human - but he is still human.

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

/////

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:05:12pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

It’s pretty clear that Kurt Bardella dropped Breitbart “News” as a client because he also thinks they’re sliming Michelle Fields.

Breitbart Spokesman Quits As Trump Campaign Controversy Blows Up

While I wouldn’t characterize it as sliming they’re definitely doing the most they can to undermine the story. They went way out on a limb here …

New video of Donald Trump’s press conference Tuesday evening shows that the Washington Post’s account of an altercation involving Breitbart News reporter Michelle Fields could not possibly have happened as Ben Terris reported.

… when the video doesn’t in any way support their iron clad “could not possibly” asssertion. I’d say they’re attacking Terris more, and jumping on the fact that Fields was disoriented enough by the attack not to have identified her attacker herself.

What’s really interesting about this whole thing is that Matthew Boyle knows for a fact if Lewandowski told him that story about not recognizing Fields is true, but he’s absolutely refusing to say anything publicly either way. His tacit refusal to deny the story may be as much of a confirmation as we’re likely to get in the short term, but now that assault charges have been filed he’s probably going to be questioned by police and may have to break his silence.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:05:49pm

:Removed, parody.

134
Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:05:52pm

re: #129 Lidane

POTUS made a local taco joint here very happy:

[Embedded content]

So the pres is Mexican now? Will he pay for the wall along with his tacos.

135
b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:06:26pm

re: #125 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thank you.

The Rage Furby is a horrible human - but he is still human.

Link?

136
Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:07:06pm

re: #133 Ziggy_TARDIS

This snunk through.

Scientology lost its Tax-Exempt Status.

Excellent news.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:07:06pm

re: #135 b.d.

Link?

? This was in reference to a now-deleted comment.

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ipsos  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:07:06pm

re: #135 b.d.

Link?

[citation needed]

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:07:51pm

Parody Misuse

140
Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:08:36pm

TMZ is saying Keith Emerson killed himself. :(

tmz.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:09:25pm

Ok, so apparently, someone created a perfect mirror of the ABC site.

False Alarm.

142
CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:09:30pm

re: #137 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Heh, I think he meant a link proving Ginger Snapped is human.

143
Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:11:37pm

This is great….
I asked earlier about a “Communist Insurgency” at Trump rallies. This idiot actually explained his statement. The Derp is very strong on this one. Here’s what he had to say:

The Dems, but especially the communist Bernie is offering folks tens of thousands of dollars free if he wins. So there is thousands of dollars for each of these disrupters if they can throttle Trump. I have no problem throwing left and right wingers out of a gathering if they are disruptive. Heck we did that back in the violent ’70s so it should be okay today. If we didn’t throw radicals out of some of our meetings not a lot would of been accomplished.

I have the pleasure of breaking down his comments on a regular basis, I find it humorous.

You’ll have to agree all Texas DERP is of the enhanced variety of DERP.

144
Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:12:28pm
145
Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:12:42pm

re: #141 Ziggy_TARDIS

That sucks. I hate people who do that.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:12:44pm
147
Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:13:37pm

re: #143 Dave In Austin

I’ve been a Democrat since I have voted and have never received any free money. Even in the two years Dems were in charge in 2008-2010, I never received any free money.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:14:08pm

re: #141 Ziggy_TARDIS

This part was kind of a giveaway:

The investigation, along with an extensive audit, found the group to be a “criminal operation with a sole purpose of making money”.

If that was true we’d have heard about them being indicted.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:14:31pm

re: #142 CuriousLurker

Heh, I think he meant a link proving Ginger Snapped is human.

I’m getting the feeling I should just go hermit for the day, because my patience is shot and I don’t feel well.

150
Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:15:39pm

re: #148 CuriousLurker

This part is true though.

Scientology teaches that 75 million years ago an evil galactic overlord named Xenu, ruler of a Galactic Confederacy, decided to tackle overpopulation by rounding up 13.5 trillion people in DC-8-like spacecraft, flying them to Earth (then known as Teegeeack), dropping them in the volcanoes of Hawaii and vaporizing them with hydrogen bombs.

Their spirits, known as thetans, attached themselves to humans at the dawn of man, and according to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard is the root cause of all our fears, confusion and problems. For humans to reach a clear state, thetans must be removed from the body through therapy sessions, known within Scientology as auditing.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:18:15pm

re: #147 Belafon

I’ve been a Democrat since I have voted and have never received any free money. Even in the two years Dems were in charge in 2008-2010, I never received any free money.

This guy is a regular on in the Statesman post. I’ve been trolling him hard for the last 8 yrs. This is one of his better ones. I’m sure we all know someone like this.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:18:32pm

re: #148 CuriousLurker

This part was kind of a giveaway:

If that was true we’d have heard about them being indicted.

Belgian judge just threw out a “Scientology is a criminal enterprise” case today.

153
BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:25:44pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Ha oops. Guy and his wife sound like a pair of assholes.

And the ultimate MBF line:

“You can google Jesus and find bad stuff, too,” he said, and suggested that it was unfair to include the welfare fraud arrest in this story.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:32:56pm

re: #135 b.d.

Link?

[ citation needed ] :)

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:37:17pm

re: #140 Stanley Sea

TMZ is saying Keith Emerson killed himself. :(

tmz.com

sigh…

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:06:58pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

While I wouldn’t characterize it as sliming they’re definitely doing the most they can to undermine the story. They went way out on a limb here …

Exactly. Trying to undermine a story is not sliming their reporter.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:08:09pm

re: #120 Mike Lamb

No, I read the entirety of it. I find there efforts to call this a mistake to be laughable.

They’re laughable as to the substance of the report, but nowhere have they come near to sliming her.


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