Breitbart Spokesman Quits Over Treatment of Reporter

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The fallout continues from the alleged assault of Breitbart “News” reporter Michelle Fields by Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, as Breitbart spokesman Kurt Bardella announced today he will no longer work with the right wing propaganda site.

“When you can’t give an organization 100% of your ability, the best thing to do is move on just for yourself and for them,” Bardella, a former spokesman for Darrell Issa, said.

Asked if it would be fair to say he was parting ways with Breitbart because he disagrees with its handling of the situation with Michelle Fields, Bardella said “It would be fair for you to say that” but that he wasn’t going to.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:16:27pm

Repeated from end of last thread:

To me this is really interesting and hard not to read as a tell. If that part of the story was false Breitbart would almost certainly have made Boyle deny it. Now that a criminal complaint has been filed though unless that part of the story really is false he can’t run interference for Lewandowski without risking an obstruction of justice charge.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:17:29pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

Breitbart Spokesman Resigns Over Trump Aide Assault: ‘This Shit Just Sucks’

He also added that Corey Lewandowski had not, as had been previously reported, admitted to the assault. In a text message exchange with Breitbart’s Matt Boyle, Bardella said, Lewandowski only said he didn’t know Fields was a Breitbart reporter and would look into the situation.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:19:00pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Breitbart Spokesman Resigns Over Trump Aide Assault: ‘This Shit Just Sucks’

Thanks, missed that bit of nuance.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:25:06pm

Really shows the organization they’re running there. No one deserves to be assaulted like that.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:25:26pm
Lewandowski’s resignation letter
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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:25:49pm

What would it take to make them all quit?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:29:09pm

It’s a bit of a tell that we’re having this discussion because a white conservative female reporter was at the receiving end of the treatment. Treatment that while inexcusable was mild compared to the Time photographer who got choke slammed, or the myriad black protestors who’ve been shoved, punched, and explicitly threatened with death at Trump rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:29:44pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

It’s a bit of a tell that we’re having this discussion because a white conservative female reporter was at the receiving end of the treatment. Treatment that while inexcusable was mild compared to the Time photographer who got choke slammed, or the myriad black protestors who’ve been shoved, punched, and explicitly threatened with death at Trump rallies.

Absolutely.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:30:14pm
Things are all balled up at the head office….
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Unabogie  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:30:39pm

You know, with Donald Trump openly endorsing violence against black people, and the GOP going off the rails in their effort to appease his crazed voters, the good folks over at Daily Kos are rightly incensed.

AT HILLARY

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:31:04pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

It’s a bit of a tell that we’re having this discussion because a white conservative female reporter was at the receiving end of the treatment. Treatment that while inexcusable was mild compared to the Time photographer who got choke slammed, or the myriad black protestors who’ve been shoved, punched, and explicitly threatened with death at Trump rallies.

Indeed. Video of the incident with the Time photographer is being posted on FB as “The Best Thing You’ll See This Week” by Conservative bloggers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:31:30pm

re: #9 Barefoot Grin

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I’LL SHOW YOU THE LIFE OF THE MIND!!!!!!

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:34:48pm
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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:35:09pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Oh boy…

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:35:23pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

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Jesus.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:35:28pm

re: #10 Unabogie

You know, with Donald Trump openly endorsing violence against black people, and the GOP going off the rails in their effort to appease his crazed voters, the good folks over at Daily Kos are rightly incensed.

AT HILLARY

Sigh. I assume the Reagan comment Is driving them bonkers. Have to admit, she was wrong but at the same time, this shit bothers me much more.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:35:43pm

re: #14 Jenner7

Oh boy…

Wonder what Katrina will wear for a necklace THIS time.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:35:53pm

South Sudan is turning into a living hell.

Militias allied to the South Sudanese army have been allowed to rape women in lieu of wages while fighting rebels, a UN report says.
Investigators found that 1,300 women had been raped last year in oil-rich Unity State alone, it said.
The army operated a “scorched earth” policy to deliberately target civilians for killing and rape, which amounted to war crimes, the UN said.
The government denies its army targeted civilians but says it is investigating.

Do we have any allies in the area. As in, bordering it, and accessible?

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:36:07pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Just to prove which side she’s still on.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:36:09pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

I’ll be on @megynkelly with @KatrinaPierson tonight at 9pm ET.

Which door conceals the tiger, again?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:36:31pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Wonder what Katrina will wear for a necklace THIS time.

Razor wire.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:36:39pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed. Video of the incident with the Time photographer is being posted on FB as “The Best Thing You’ll See This Week” by Conservative bloggers.

Conservative bloggers seem to love authoritative behavior but yet they’re convinced Obama and the left are the authoritarian ones. Riiight…

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:38:55pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

Those two together. Well, that’s going to really of piss Trump off. If he had any judgement at all he’d stay silent on the subject, so I look forward to his tweet about them getting together to conspire against his greatness while bleeding from their whatevers.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:39:00pm

These are wonderful photos

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Unabogie  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:39:57pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Exactly. It’s like they can’t see that we’re facing an openly violent and fascist movement and they’re fighting over who is the most pure liberal. I’ve been saying for months that Trump was going to win this nomination, and anyone who is going “Bernie or Bust” is a fucking idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:40:24pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

These are wonderful photos

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Too bad Trudeau wasn’t elected earlier in Obama’s presidency, the two seem to have a real rapport.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:41:32pm

re: #25 Unabogie

Exactly. It’s like they can’t see that we’re facing an openly violent and fascist movement and they’re fighting over who is the most pure liberal. I’ve been saying for months that Trump was going to win this nomination, and anyone who is going “Bernie or Bust” is a fucking idiot.

Correct. Forget purity contests, give me someone sand and grounded in reality and who doesn’t encourage violence against their opponents.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:41:38pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Too bad Trudeau wasn’t elected earlier in Obama’s presidency, the two seem to have a real rapport.

He can be Hillary’s ambassador to Canada.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:42:15pm

re: #28 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

He can be Hillary’s ambassador to Canada.

Heh if he wants it.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:42:41pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

I kinda which we could have Trudeau for President. I know, completely impossible.

Would Canada be willing to share him? :P

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:44:14pm

re: #28 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

He can be Hillary’s ambassador to Canada.

See, I told you he hates America! He won’t even stay in the country!!!1!!!1

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:44:23pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Sasha and Malia looked so beautiful in their gowns. Love this family. I’m going to miss them residing in the WH.

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KingKenrod  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:50:35pm

Sad news - Keith Emerson’s death reported as a likely suicide.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:51:53pm

re: #33 KingKenrod

Sad news - Keith Emerson’s death reported as a likely suicide.

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Damn.

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danarchy  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:54:20pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

These are wonderful photos

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Is it just me or are those cherry blossoms out awfully early.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:55:00pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:55:21pm

Just a short visit to give an update.

When to the Orthopedic Dr today—gave me steroids to try to stop any pain caused by inflammation.

Next step, I guess, is to get on the Physican Finder for all the teaching hospitals in Chicago and read every CV. No one I’ve talked with seems to know any colleague that specializes on stabilizing the sacrum. Other than fusing it.

I may end up in Germany or Israel.

*sigh*

On the political front, I guess Chicago is getting a visit from Trump. *yawn*

Primary coming up, I am hoping to get out of the house again to cast my vote at the Court Building to cast an absentee ballot. Can’t be sure I’ll be able to stand in line or even get to the polls on polls.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 2:57:53pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:00:01pm

SMOTI showing his love of Trump
Jim Hoft of TheGatewayPundit Faces Protesters at the St. Louis Trump Rally

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:00:34pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Sigh. I assume the Reagan comment Is driving them bonkers. Have to admit, she was wrong but at the same time, this shit bothers me much more.

It really was spectacularly inept for Clinton to complement the Reagans on their response to AIDS.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:00:43pm

re: #33 KingKenrod

Sad news - Keith Emerson’s death reported as a likely suicide.

He’d been suffering from a degenerative nerve condition in his hands, and had apparently slipped into depression.

As a musician who broke a finger two years ago, I can sort of understand. I was only away from the guitar for two months, and it affected me the same way - that was a very dark time. I can’t begin to imagine having to put down the guitar for the rest of my life.

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Shimshon  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:01:09pm

Am I the only one surprised Breitbart employs actual “reporters” and not underage foreigners in dark dungeons that steal stories from actual news websites?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:02:11pm

re: #41 makeitstop

He’d been suffering from a degenerative nerve condition in his hands, and had apparently slipped into depression.

As a musician who broke a finger two years ago, I can sort of understand. I was only away from the guitar for two months, and it affected me the same way - that was a very dark time. I can’t begin to imagine having to put down the guitar for the rest of my life.

I had a feeling that he may not have been well.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:03:14pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

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Just looked at the photos. It’s really nice to see POTUS & FLOTUS relaxed & smiling and in the company of people who aren’t adversaries.

And the girls—OMG, so gorgeous and so grown up.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:03:15pm

re: #40 EPR-radar

It really was spectacularly inept for Clinton to complement the Reagans on their response to AIDS.

I agree. It’s just that like Ugi, I wish they’d realize that Trump is dangerous. No defense of what Clinton said at all, she was wrong and off ignorant.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:05:37pm

re: #41 makeitstop

He’d been suffering from a degenerative nerve condition in his hands, and had apparently slipped into depression.

As a musician who broke a finger two years ago, I can sort of understand. I was only away from the guitar for two months, and it affected me the same way - that was a very dark time. I can’t begin to imagine having to put down the guitar for the rest of my life.

Everybody should have a second—looking for more than ‘hobby’: Pursuit. Devotion.

And no guns.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:07:13pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

Everybody should have a second—looking for more than ‘hobby’: Pursuit. Devotion.

And no guns.

So they can be left to bludgeon themselves to death?

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:07:57pm

re: #41 makeitstop

He’d been suffering from a degenerative nerve condition in his hands, and had apparently slipped into depression.

As a musician who broke a finger two years ago, I can sort of understand. I was only away from the guitar for two months, and it affected me the same way - that was a very dark time. I can’t begin to imagine having to put down the guitar for the rest of my life.

I can also understand this. There is so much I used to do with my hands that I can no longer do. I can’t sit and do nothing (even while watching TV). I used to do fine needle work, beadwork, tatting. Now I can crochet for a little while with a big thick crochet hook. I can do a little mending. I can read. Oh, yes, I can smoke… .

As the rest of my body is betraying me, my life is getting more and more boring.

If I didn’t already know how to meditate, I’d have to learn.

also, when one thinks in terms of the media one uses (musical instrunment, pigment, code, whatever) and one can no longer implement the ideas the artists brain seem to generate of their own volition, it is very difficult to cope.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:08:41pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I agree. It’s just that like Ugi, I wish they’d realize that Trump is dangerous. No defense of what Clinton said at all, she was wrong and off ignorant.

I have no real objection to the howls of outrage over this mistake by Clinton, as long as everyone still shows up in November to vote (D).

IMO, this seems like the worst pure blunder that Clinton has made so far in this campaign, since there was simply no reason to say something like that. In contrast, the Kissinger business that also made a big stink over at DailyKos is in character for a relatively hawkish Democrat like Clinton.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:08:56pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

So they can be left to bludgeon themselves to death?

Anything that takes more time than a shot. And is perhaps less lethal. People do get better, if they give themselves the chance.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:10:24pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

I have no real objection to the howls of outrage over this mistake by Clinton, as long as everyone still shows up in November to vote (D).

IMO, this seems like the worst pure blunder that Clinton has made so far in this campaign, since there was simply no reason to say something like that. In contrast, the Kissinger business that also made a big stink over at DailyKos is in character for a relatively hawkish Democrat like Clinton.

I haven’t been paying attention.

I was unfortunate enough to listen to Trump’s hour long speech about how great he is the other night. I think I’m going to keep ear plugs near for the rest of the election.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:10:59pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

Anything that takes more time than a shot. And is perhaps less lethal. People do get better, if they give themselves the chance.

The NRA’s vision of American is one where each and every moment of anger, rage and depression is a heavily armed moment of anger, rage and depression.

This doesn’t seem to be helpful.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:11:54pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

Anything that takes more time than a shot. And is perhaps less lethal. People do get better, if they give themselves the chance.

People live through all sorts of other suicide attempts. Shooting yourself in the head? Not so much.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:13:09pm

Surf and turf tonight at the old homestead. Going to beer batter (a precious Mai Bock) and deep fry some cod, and charcoal sear some ribeyes with hashbrowns and a salad.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:13:09pm

re: #52 EPR-radar

The NRA’s vision of American is one where each and every moment of anger, rage and depression is a heavily armed moment of anger, rage and depression.

This doesn’t seem to be helpful.

The most likely result of a newly acquired gun is death of a loved one or oneself.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:14:03pm

re: #51 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I haven’t been paying attention.

I was unfortunate enough to listen to Trump’s hour long speech about how great he is the other night. I think I’m going to keep ear plugs near for the rest of the election.

That reminds me of how much less disappointed I was in Obama than my parents were. They followed his campaign closely in 2008, and even participated in some Organizing for America activities. I paid no attention at all to the (D) primary in 2008 once I found there were few real differences between Clinton and Obama on the issues. I certainly wasn’t going to vote for the Republican.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:14:34pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

The most likely result of a newly acquired gun is death of a loved one or oneself.

I don’t know. Maybe a handgun. I know a lot of gun nuts who acquire firearms to ooh and ahh over a couple of times a year—when they take them out of the safe to clean or show another gun nut.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:15:48pm

re: #56 EPR-radar

That reminds me of how much less disappointed I was in Obama than my parents were. They followed his campaign closely in 2008, and even participated in some Organizing for America activities. I paid no attention at all to the (D) primary in 2008 once I found there were few real differences between Clinton and Obama on the issues. I certainly wasn’t going to vote for the Republican.

When Trump declared that he was a “very good christian” I almost spewed my coffee.

I don’t think even the Pope would say that.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:16:29pm

re: #48 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I can also understand this. There is so much I used to do with my hands that I can no longer do. I can’t sit and do nothing (even while watching TV). I used to do fine needle work, beadwork, tatting. Now I can crochet for a little while with a big thick crochet hook. I can do a little mending. I can read. Oh, yes, I can smoke… .

As the rest of my body is betraying me, my life is getting more and more boring.

If I didn’t already know how to meditate, I’d have to learn.

also, when one thinks in terms of the media one uses (musical instrunment, pigment, code, whatever) and one can no longer implement the ideas the artists brain seem to generate of their own volition, it is very difficult to cope.

{{ISWPP}}

Getting old surely does suck. But it does beat the alternative.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:16:34pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

I have no real objection to the howls of outrage over this mistake by Clinton, as long as everyone still shows up in November to vote (D).

IMO, this seems like the worst pure blunder that Clinton has made so far in this campaign, since there was simply no reason to say something like that. In contrast, the Kissinger business that also made a big stink over at DailyKos is in character for a relatively hawkish Democrat like Clinton.

True fair points.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:17:36pm

re: #57 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I don’t know. Maybe a handgun. I know a lot of gun nuts who acquire firearms to ooh and ahh over a couple of times a year—when they take them out of the safe to clean or show another gun nut.

Yeah, probably handguns, especially in the case of suicides. Fixing bikes, not digging for stats at the moment.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:19:16pm

re: #53 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

People live through all sorts of other suicide attempts. Shooting yourself in the head? Not so much.

Looked into it after my FIL shot himself. About 16% do.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:19:36pm

re: #59 makeitstop

{{ISWPP}}

Getting old surely does suck. But it does beat the alternative.

Well …

as long as I know who I am.

I don’t want to be sitting in a room drooling someday —using resources and not even knowing my name. I’ve seen that.

I also don’t want to be so doped-up on opiates because of pain that I am totally disabled. There are those with my disorder that have come to that point.

Will just have to keep challenging the system and find the right doctors… .

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:19:43pm

The rise of Trump is perhaps the most strange thing I’ve ever seen in politics.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:20:34pm

re: #59 makeitstop

{{ISWPP}}

Getting old surely does suck. But it does beat the alternative.

I said that to an 84 year old nurse I used to visit. She gave me the hardest glare she could and repeated ‘don’t get old’.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:21:06pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:21:57pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

The rise of Trump is perhaps the most strange thing I’ve ever seen in politics.

With hindsight, I think it fair to say that GOP propaganda, Fox News and hate radio made Trump (or something very similar) completely inevitable.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:23:12pm

re: #67 EPR-radar

With hindsight, I think it fair to say that GOP propaganda, Fox News and hate radio made Trump (or something very similar) completely inevitable.

It’s not a matter of what but rather who. I remembered thinking Donald Trump was obnoxious when I was a kid and thought that was the consensus. Never thought he’d be a presidential candidate let alone one that as of today is the favorite to win the GOP primary.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:23:14pm

“Extremists have shown what frightens them most: a girl with a book.” -Malala Yousafzai

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:26:39pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

That’s it, she’s nuts.

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S.D.  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:30:15pm

Seriously? He worked for a cesspool like Breitbart and *NOW* he notices?
But it’s OK when other reporters and people are assaulted?
Or just Breitbart ‘approved’ assaults?

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:30:56pm

re: #70 Skip Intro

That’s it, she’s nuts.

Or doing the most she can with the opportunity she has. Or both. Maybe she’s having a learning experience about misogyny.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:31:19pm

NYT has all but written an obit for the Rubio campaign:

With Optimism Waning, Marco Rubio’s Campaign Labors On in Florida

This is what the political equivalent of hospice care looks like.

Senator Marco Rubio’s friends, supporters and aides use words like “miracle” to describe the likelihood of a victory here in his home state on Tuesday. They soldier on through sparsely attended rallies, insisting, Trump-like, that his crowds are larger than they appear.

His top donors, who gathered in Miami Beach for a two-day retreat planned as a victory party, are now contemplating a desperate Plan B: which candidate or which group they might instead pool their resources behind to stop Donald J. Trump.

Mr. Rubio’s campaign, once hopeful that Florida would be the final stop on his road to the nomination, has gone from fighting for its life to just getting through the day.

[…]

March 15th can’t come fast enough.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:33:05pm

re: #71 S.D.

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Seriously? He worked for a cesspool like Breitbart and *NOW* he notices?
But it’s OK when other reporters and people are assaulted?
Or just Breitbart ‘approved’ assaults?

He worked for Darrell Issa too. I mean I’m sorry but come on man.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:33:40pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

She’s going to get torn to bits tonight.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:33:57pm

re: #73 freetoken

NYT has all but written an obit for the Rubio campaign:

With Optimism Waning, Marco Rubio’s Campaign Labors On in Florida

March 15th can’t come fast enough.

The empty stadium in Hialeah was pretty telling.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:34:12pm

re: #71 S.D.

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Seriously? He worked for a cesspool like Breitbart and *NOW* he notices?
But it’s OK when other reporters and people are assaulted?
Or just Breitbart ‘approved’ assaults?

I gotta go with ‘better late than never’ here.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:34:58pm

re: #77 makeitstop

I gotta go with ‘better late than never’ here.

I can go along with that too. I juts hope he starts condemning all of the Trump campaign’s crap.

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BigBadDemocrat  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:35:02pm

Fox when its on where I happen to be is always running Donald Trump down.

I work so much hardly get to see much of this years goings on.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:35:06pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

She’s going to get torn to bits tonight.

Live by the derp….

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:35:36pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

She’s going to get torn to bits tonight.

She might learn that misogyny can come from women, too.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:36:42pm

re: #81 wrenchwench

For the record, I think KP will be wearing a necklace of hand grenades tonight.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:37:26pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

She’s going to get torn to bits tonight.

I’m afraid so. Pierson is going to go straight for the jugular, and no one will stop her.

I said it yesterday - the Trump campaign is not just trying to refute this story. It’s like they want to tear this woman down completely - a figurative ‘head on a pike’ as an example to other journalists who might think about crossing the campaign.

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BigBadDemocrat  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:37:52pm

wrenchwench are you a auto repair person?

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:38:40pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

For the record, I think KP will be wearing a necklace of hand grenades tonight.

Or human finger bones. Something witchy. /Manson

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:38:54pm

Evening Lizardim.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:39:59pm

re: #84 BigBadDemocrat

wrenchwench are you a auto repair person?

Bicycles.

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sagehen  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:40:12pm

re: #83 makeitstop

I’m afraid so. Pierson is going to go straight for the jugular, and no one will stop her.

I dunno… Megan may very well be on Michelle’s side.

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:40:55pm

Post-POTUS Obama should be a stand-up comedian. I’m half-serious here. Can you imagine him shutting down a heckler?

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:42:56pm

re: #85 makeitstop

I’m a little surprised that Fox didn’t bring in CCJ too since he just published his HUUUGE news story about Fields. It probably didn’t help posting that photo of him wearing a towel earlier.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:44:12pm

re: #71 S.D.

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Seriously? He worked for a cesspool like Breitbart and *NOW* he notices?
But it’s OK when other reporters and people are assaulted?
Or just Breitbart ‘approved’ assaults?

That is truly unbelievable from someone who chose to sit in a cesspool and add to it.

Trumpism stands as an ugly indictment of the entire right wing noise/hate machine, and very few of those people are going to consider their share of the responsibility for it.

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BigBadDemocrat  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:44:35pm

re: #87 wrenchwench

BikeBenchWenchWrenching?

93
BigBadDemocrat  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:45:30pm

re: #87 wrenchwench

Bike Babes Got Great Legs.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:45:44pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

Didn’t he also work for Darrel Issa? A guy with CV like that should be able eat arsenic by the fistful and suffer no ill affects.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:46:10pm

re: #90 Skip Intro

I’m a little surprised that Fox didn’t bring in CCJ too since he just published his HUUUGE news story about Fields. It probably didn’t help posting that photo of him wearing a towel earlier.

As hard as it may be to imagine, there may be one nut job too toxic even for Fox.

96
No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:46:26pm

You know, this never occurred to me but it seems so obvious now:

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:46:56pm

re: #90 Skip Intro

I’m a little surprised that Fox didn’t bring in CCJ too since he just published his HUUUGE news story about Fields. It probably didn’t help posting that photo of him wearing a towel earlier.

I obviously missed the Rage Furby’s no doubt shocking bombshell. What did it say?

98
jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:47:26pm

re: #96 No Depression

“Benghazi theorists.”

99
freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:47:28pm

re: #96 No Depression

Tickets can be had for free, and it does not appear they limit the tickets.

This is almost certainly intentional.

100
BigBadDemocrat  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:47:59pm

re: #96 No Depression

I understand they give the tickets out for free.

101
Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:48:08pm

re: #97 thedopefishlives

I obviously missed the Rage Furby’s no doubt shocking bombshell. What did it say?

If you value your eyes don’t look at the picture from him.

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:48:41pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

These are wonderful photos

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Wow—they certainly are. The Obama girls have grown into really lovely young ladies. And all of them appear to really like each other and be totally enjoying themselves.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:49:33pm

re: #97 thedopefishlives

I obviously missed the Rage Furby’s no doubt shocking bombshell. What did it say?

Charles posted some of it here last night. I don’t remember what thread it was, but he only posted the tamer stuff.

If donotlink was still working - it’s not, is it? - I’d use that to wander over to CCJ’s cesspool site and see myself.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:49:40pm

re: #93 BigBadDemocrat

Bike Babes Got Great Legs.

Bike mechanics have sore hands. Sore and greasy.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:51:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:51:24pm

re: #75 Skip Intro

She’s going to get torn to bits tonight.

She’s an idiot. This is no way to get her criminal complaint taken seriously.

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BigBadDemocrat  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:52:24pm

What is up with Drudge today he has left the stuff about Cruz and his dads Pentecostal Church stuff all day?
We here in Texas know the dad has a small church just north of Frisco.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:52:26pm

me so 8601 date

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:52:38pm

re: #106 goddamnedfrank

She’s an idiot.

Well, she did work for Breitbart.

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danarchy  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:53:11pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

Or doing the most she can with the opportunity she has. Or both. Maybe she’s having a learning experience about misogyny.

Or maybe she is just already a Fox contributor so why wouldn’t she?

from her twitter bio it says she is on Fox every sunday morning:

Always smiling, but sometimes arguing on your TV. Watch me: Fox News’ Cashin’ In at 11:30am ET Saturdays.

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BigBadDemocrat  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:53:16pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Its the legs that count.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:54:22pm

re: #109 freetoken

She’s still a RWNJ who hasn’t figured out how fast the axe falls when you wander out of the bubble. Maybe she will, or maybe she’ll crawl back in begging for forgiveness.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:54:48pm

Here you go!

Cthulhu for America!

vote, or else!

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:55:18pm

re: #111 BigBadDemocrat

Its the legs that count.

I count on my fingers.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:55:39pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

I count on my fingers.

I count out loud

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:56:15pm

Is anyone else tired of Megyn Kelly?

I wonder what she looks like when she doesn’t have on the Barbie Look.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:56:52pm

re: #115 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I count out loud

When I started rehab, counting the reps was also rehab. Harder than doing the reps.

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:57:09pm

re: #110 danarchy

Or maybe she is just already a Fox contributor so why wouldn’t she?

from her twitter bio it says she is on Fox every sunday morning:

It’s pretty amazing that a mainstream news station (and yes Fox News is mainstream no matter how much they try to claim otherwise) could have a “journalist” from a political cesspool like Breitbart as one of its regular contributors.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:58:04pm

re: #118 No Depression

The only criteria Roger Ailes has is “does she look hot on camera”.

Oh, and “is she reliably right wing enough?”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:59:18pm
121
BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 3:59:26pm

re: #71 S.D.

[Embedded content]

Seriously? He worked for a cesspool like Breitbart and *NOW* he notices?
But it’s OK when other reporters and people are assaulted?
Or just Breitbart ‘approved’ assaults?

And before that, he worked for Darrell Issa, so he certainly knows “wrong and disgusting.”

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:00:20pm

re: #119 Skip Intro

The only criteria Roger Ailes has is “does she look hot on camera”.

She has to have a James Bond approved Resume.

He wants boobs with a brain.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:00:28pm

This afternoon’s show:

LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Chicago, IL (3-11-16) 6PM CST

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:00:57pm

re: #117 wrenchwench

When I started rehab, counting the reps was also rehab. Harder than doing the reps.

I make the trainer do the counting. I have to concentrate on acutally doing the reps correctly.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:01:33pm

re: #123 freetoken

Is he pointing out who the crowd should beat up?

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:02:55pm

Crowd sure does appear to be looking at something.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:04:45pm

re: #122 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

She has to have a James Bond approved Resume.

He wants boobs with a brain.

FTFY

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:04:48pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

Repeated from end of last thread:

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To me this is really interesting and hard not to read as a tell. If that part of the story was false Breitbart would almost certainly have made Boyle deny it. Now that a criminal complaint has been filed though unless that part of the story really is false he can’t run interference for Lewandowski without risking an obstruction of justice charge.

Actually he denied that report.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:06:18pm

I think Trump has gained so much momentum because Whackos are looking for someone that they think can match Obama’a charisma and sweep the voting landscape the way Obama did in 2008.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:06:44pm

One of the country’s most influential conservative magazines has endorsed Ted Cruz for president, after its top editors said that they believe the Texas senator is the only Republican candidate left in the race who can defeat Donald Trump.

“Ted’s the only one with a plausible path to stopping Trump,” National Review editor Rich Lowry told Politico, “either by getting a majority himself or denying Trump a majority and finishing close behind and getting it to the convention.”

this trump thing sure is separating the sheep from the… other sheep

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:07:30pm
132
Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:07:53pm

Trump has a huge deficit among nonwhite voters

Well, that’s a big surprise. But will they vote?

latimes.com

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:08:06pm

Camera person keeps zooming in tryin to find something white to do a white-balance… but it doesn’t work because there is different kind of lighting in the auditorium.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:08:49pm

re: #130 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

One of the country’s most influential conservative magazines has endorsed Ted Cruz for president, after its top editors said that they believe the Texas senator is the only Republican candidate left in the race who can defeat Donald Trump.

“Ted’s the only one with a plausible path to stopping Trump,” National Review editor Rich Lowry told Politico, “either by getting a majority himself or denying Trump a majority and finishing close behind and getting it to the convention.”

this trump thing sure is separating the sheep from the… other sheep

DEFINITION OF LAME:

trying to beat a candidate in your own party instead of the opposing party.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:08:57pm

re: #128 Nyet

Actually he denied that report.

I see that Bardella denied it. I still haven’t seen where Boyle has addressed the issue or released the texts Bardella referenced.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:09:22pm

re: #132 Skip Intro

Trump has a huge deficit among nonwhite voters

Well, that’s a big surprise. But will they vote?

latimes.com

Yes.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:09:32pm

[…]

In part, Miles says, the mural is a reminder of the city’s roots in native culture - including the vast canal system created by indigenous people. “Native people give this city its real flavor,” he says. The piece is meant as a poetic mix of art and politics, reflecting Miles’ belief that “artists move the culture forward.”

But he also thinks of the mural as a gift to the community it borders, saying its residents have seen plenty of airport and freeway construction. “I like the fact that the whole piece faces an older Phoenix community that’s withstood gentrification,” Miles says. “It’s almost like a last holdout.”

[…]

More text and great photos at the link.

And a video:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:10:01pm

Argh. Power went out in my neighborhood more than an hour ago, and it’s still not restored.

I needs mah electricity!

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:10:31pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

I see that Bardella denied it. I still haven’t seen where Boyle has addressed the issue or released the texts Bardella referenced.

Have posted this earlier:

img.washingtonpost.com

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:10:59pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:11:25pm

re: #127 thedopefishlives

FTFY

They make a big deal of stating the resume of the Fox News Barbie Dolls —one was a proescutor —lawyer, judge, journalist —whatever.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:13:14pm

re: #141 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

They make a big deal of stating the resume of the Fox News Barbie Dolls —one was a proescutor —lawyer, judge, journalist —whatever.

They don’t really care, and neither does their target audience. Men who watch Faux News are objectifying, get-in-the-kitchen-and-make-me-a-sammich neanderthals.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:13:21pm

The chat stream for these videos… well…

youtube.com

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:13:44pm

re: #137 wrenchwench

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Spray painting is incredible to watch. I loved the hair accents.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:15:56pm

re: #132 Skip Intro

Trump has a huge deficit among nonwhite voters

Well, that’s a big surprise. But will they vote?

latimes.com

This race may end up being a staggeringly divided one, more so than either of Obama’s. With Trump’s overt appeals to racism and nativism to whip up the white vote, and the resulting anger among nonwhites, I’d hate to think what will happen if he wins. Nonwhites will be right to see it as a giant “Fuck You!” from white people.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:16:50pm

re: #142 thedopefishlives

They don’t really care, and neither does their target audience. Men who watch Faux News are objectifying, get-in-the-kitchen-and-make-me-a-sammich neanderthals.

Reminds me of Gloria Steinem’s former fiance —from her college days. He said during an interview that his father thought it was great that his son would have Phi Beta Kappa in the kitchen. The former fience said that he thought that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. She broke it off and sailed for England after graduation (and had an abortion).

147
Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:17:27pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

I count on my fingers.

I rely on the kindness of strangers.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:17:35pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:18:48pm

Too bad Kurt Bardella won’t learn from this lesson that conservatives are his worst enemies. He’ll be working for Free Beacon of Teh Daily Caller by the end of the month.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:19:34pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

This race may end up being a staggeringly divided one, more so than either of Obama’s. With Trump’s overt appeals to racism and nativism to whip up the white vote, and the resulting anger among nonwhites, I’d hate to think what will happen if he wins. Nonwhites and women will be right to see it as a giant “Fuck You!” from white people.

And it quite justifiably will be.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:19:38pm

re: #145 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t think things will be all that rosy if he loses either. His base is made up of angry crazy people with guns. I don’t think they’re just going to accept his loss with grace.

We’ll get an early taste of the if the GOP tries to block his nomination.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:20:10pm

So, lots of young people in the crowd. It’s a university after all.

But I wonder what that means for Trump’s speech.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:21:55pm

re: #57 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I don’t know. Maybe a handgun. I know a lot of gun nuts who acquire firearms to ooh and ahh over a couple of times a year—when they take them out of the safe to clean or show another gun nut.

And too many of those gun nuts end up shooting someone because “the gun went off while I was cleaning it…”

154
jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:22:27pm

Just now for the first time looked at Katrina Pierson’s twitter feed. It looks like something from Bioshock.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:22:33pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:22:35pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:22:43pm

re: #146 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

Reminds me of Gloria Steinem’s former fiance —from her college days. He said during an interview that his father thought it was great that his son would have Phi Beta Kappa in the kitchen. The former fience said that he thought that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. She broke it off and sailed for England after graduation (and had an abortion).

It’s interesting, having been brought up in that sort of culture, but it all changed in college and meeting women who weren’t beaten (either physically or emotionally) into submission. And then there’s Mrs. Fish, who was raised in that environment as a woman, but she resisted the controlling and grew to be fiercely independent and strong. It probably helped that she received martial arts training at a reasonably young age and felt her power.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:23:44pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

And too many of those gun nuts end up shooting someone because “the gun went off while I was cleaning it…”

One trainer told us that there are two types of gun owners —those that have had an accidental discharge and those that haven’t.

ALWAYS POINT THE GUN IN A SAFE DIRECTION

KNOW WHAT IS A SAFE DIRECTION.

159
jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:24:11pm
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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:25:36pm

re: #159 jaunte

Barbaric… who are the barbarians?

But it is more reminiscent of the 1960’s than what we’ve become used to the last couple of decades.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:26:36pm

“….During a Friday news conference, Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump characterized protesters getting punched at his events as “very, very appropriate” because “these are people that punch, there are people that are violent people.”
thinkprogress.org

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:27:52pm

… internet problems…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:28:26pm

re: #160 freetoken

Barbaric… who are the barbarians?

But it is more reminiscent of the 1960’s than what we’ve become used to the last couple of decades.

It’s more reminiscent of WWE. If it’s not completely staged, the Trump rally violence has been stage-managed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:29:43pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

The empty stadium in Hialeah was pretty telling.

Romney rally at Ford Stadium, 2-24-2012

thinkprogress.org

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:29:52pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:29:56pm

re: #162 freetoken

… internet problems…

Kick It (tm)

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:30:30pm

re: #161 jaunte

“….During a Friday news conference, Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump characterized protesters getting punched at his events as “very, very appropriate” because “these are people that punch, there are people that are violent people.”
thinkprogress.org

Stochastic terrorism.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:30:56pm

FETUS FUNERALS?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:31:20pm

re: #167 Dr. Matt

Stochastic terrorism.

Droog whistle.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:31:52pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

And too many of those gun nuts end up shooting someone because “the gun went off while I was cleaning it…”

The only way a gun goes off while cleaning it is if a person allows ammunition to be anywhere in the vicinity while doing that. There’s no valid fucking reason whatsoever for anybody to let that condition occur, it makes absolutely no sense. Even in a gun you leave loaded for home defense it takes almost no effort at all to check and unload it before beginning the cleaning procedure.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:32:05pm

re: #168 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

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FETUS FUNERALS?

Why am I not surprised. Dickhead Mike Pence is in the wingnut headlines yet again. I’m sure fishfolk must be proud.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:32:56pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

The only way a gun goes off while cleaning it is if a person allows ammunition to be anywhere in the vicinity while doing that. There’s no valid fucking reason whatsoever for anybody to let that condition occur, it makes absolutely no sense. Even in a gun you leave loaded for home defense it takes almost no effort at all to check and unload it before beginning the cleaning procedure.

Gun safety rule #0: The gun is always loaded unless the action is open and you can see that it’s clear.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:33:28pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

That’s in the Houston Heights, a densely populated neighborhood. Any stray bullets would easily go into someone’s house.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:34:23pm

So a Kossack posts some cold, hard poll truths at dailykos.com and the first comment is of course from a fucking BernieBro:

One Pissed Off Liberal Mar 11 * 10:56:45 PM
Hillary has a better than 99% chance of winning Michigan!

538
41 Recommends

Whatever dude, if that makes you feel better…

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:34:49pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

The only way a gun goes off while cleaning it is if a person allows ammunition to be anywhere in the vicinity while doing that. There’s no valid fucking reason whatsoever for anybody to let that condition occur, it makes absolutely no sense. Even in a gun you leave loaded for home defense it takes almost no effort at all to check and unload it before beginning the cleaning procedure.

YES, and it happens to the most experienced and OCD of us.

THE GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED

POINT THE GUN IN A SAFE DIRECTION

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:35:01pm

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Gun safety rule #0: The gun is always loaded unless the action is open and you can see that it’s clear.

fixed

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:35:19pm

re: #165 Stanley Sea

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This country’s going down the shitter.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:35:24pm

Trump canceled rally.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:35:30pm

ralley postponed

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:35:41pm

re: #176 Kragar

fixed

EVEN if you are at the range and the flaggy thing is in the action.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:35:54pm

a number of cheers in the crowd…

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:36:07pm

Trump just cancelled is rally in Chicago. Good.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:36:12pm

re: #176 Kragar

fixed

Yeah, that’s how I was always taught, but it’s safe to clean if the action’s open. But I would never look down the barrel or point it at someone/something, even if the action is clear.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:36:29pm

re: #177 No Depression

This country’s going down the shitter.

No, it is moving forward and changing.

It’s a brave new world.

Just like it was when we were young.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:37:09pm

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Gun safety rule #0: The gun is always loaded unless the action is open and you can see that it’s clear.

Exactly, every damned time you pick it up. If it leaves your sight for a second you recheck. You check even when you know for absolute certainty that it’s empty. You check whether other people are around or not. You check even if it feels really fucking silly to do so.

You check. You check. You check.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:37:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:37:49pm

re: #178 Jenner7

Trump canceled rally.

What a fucking pussy.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:38:01pm

I hope more violence doesn’t break out because of this. Damn.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:38:09pm

IMO, part of the reason he cancelled is that there are too many protesters inside the building.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:38:32pm

Sigh.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:38:34pm

The Revolution is apparently being televised.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:38:42pm

re: #158 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

One trainer told us that there are two types of gun owners —those that have had an accidental discharge and those that haven’t.

ALWAYS POINT THE GUN IN A SAFE DIRECTION

KNOW WHAT IS A SAFE DIRECTION.

AND KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOADED AND UNLOADED.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:38:47pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

What a fucking pussy.

my first thought was WIMP!

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:38:52pm

re: #178 Jenner7

Trump canceled rally.

Coward.

He can’t handle some college kids demonstrating. How’s he gonna handle Putin?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:39:19pm

re: #194 makeitstop

Coward.

He can’t handle some college kids demonstrating. How’s he gonna handle Putin?

Dick-measuring contest.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:39:21pm

re: #194 makeitstop

Coward.

He can’t handle some college kids demonstrating. How’s he gonna handle Putin?

doesn’t want to be responsible for a 1968 repeat.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:39:35pm

David Gergen (who’s voice I love) compared this to a Wallace rally.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:40:28pm

Don’t be Douglas…

Gun Scene

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:40:39pm

Trump only likes his protesters in ones… .not in hundreds.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:41:23pm
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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:41:33pm

Oh dear…

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:41:48pm

re: #194 makeitstop

Coward.

He can’t handle some college kids demonstrating. How’s he gonna handle Putin?

He’ll make a deal.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:42:00pm
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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:42:00pm

re: #196 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

doesn’t want to be responsible for a 1968 repeat.

Maybe he should have thought about that before shooting his mouth off for nine months.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:42:07pm

re: #195 thedopefishlives

Dick-measuring contest.

because it is so damn relevant to the Oval Office!

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:42:31pm
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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:43:08pm

re: #204 makeitstop

Maybe he should have thought about that before shooting his mouth off for nine months.

Trump is the best —haven’t you listened to him.

He has —in fact, his voice is the only one he hears.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:43:31pm

Trump built this. This is on him.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:43:49pm

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Gun safety rule #0: The gun is always loaded unless the action is open and you can see that it’s clear.

One of many, many reasons why I support the idea of mandatory gun safety classes and documented time on a gun range before giving someone a license. You’ve got no business owning a gun if you don’t know the first thing about how to properly load, clean, maintain, store or fire the fucking thing. And firing it isn’t enough. You need to have actual training with it, too.

Of course that’ll never be law, but I still support it anyway.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:45:08pm

re: #209 Lidane

One of many, many reasons why I support the idea of mandatory gun safety classes and documented time on a gun range before giving someone a license. You’ve got no business owning a gun if you don’t know the first thing about how to properly load, clean, maintain, store or fire the fucking thing. And firing it isn’t enough. You need to have actual training with it, too.

Of course that’ll never be law, but I still support it anyway.

Yeah, I’m with you on that. Kind of like you have to demonstrate proficiency with an automobile before being granted a restricted license for use. I know gun-fuckers hate that comparison, but it is so apt.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:45:17pm

If I didn’t know better I’d say this was a college crowd on a Friday night…oh… wait… it is a college crowd on a Friday night.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:45:22pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:45:24pm

Well, protestors have the recipe to fuck up all future Trump rallies.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:45:33pm

You know who else busted up the opposition’s rallies.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:45:41pm

Yikes.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:46:06pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:47:12pm

They’ll be shooting CS into the arena soon

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:47:19pm
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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:47:38pm

I’m too lazy to do the math so take it for what it is, just a comment:

rigso Mar 11 * 11:40:14 PM
Guys, here’s the REAL GOOD NEWS: Hillary can lose every state, EVERY state from here on out by 8 points and still win!

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:48:18pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart

They’ll be shooting CS into the arena soon

Shades of Ten Cent Beer Night.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:48:32pm

Actually, I’m a Bitch.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:48:39pm
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mmmirele  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:48:54pm

re: #48 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

I can also understand this. There is so much I used to do with my hands that I can no longer do. I can’t sit and do nothing (even while watching TV). I used to do fine needle work, beadwork, tatting. Now I can crochet for a little while with a big thick crochet hook. I can do a little mending. I can read. Oh, yes, I can smoke… .

As the rest of my body is betraying me, my life is getting more and more boring.

If I didn’t already know how to meditate, I’d have to learn.

also, when one thinks in terms of the media one uses (musical instrunment, pigment, code, whatever) and one can no longer implement the ideas the artists brain seem to generate of their own volition, it is very difficult to cope.

It reminded of me when my late father started going blind, and then the Alzheimer’s set in. It was painful, very painful to see my dad not able to do much of anything. I remember in January 2013 my mom set him up to help juice oranges from their tree (automatic juicer). He was so happy to have something to do. Those kinds of tasks were few and far between.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:49:06pm

This is going to pump a lot of justified victim juice into the Trump supporters.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:50:15pm

re: #219 Nyet

I’m too lazy to do the math so take it for what it is, just a comment:

That’s what happens when you ignore states in favor of…WTF is Bernie’s strategy anyway? They discounted all those states that she won because they were in the south.
Morons. This is not a general and it is all about delegates. Bernie doesn’t get this.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:50:39pm

re: #225 jaunte

Yup.

Problem for Trump, though, is that he actually cares about his own skin. He’s no real revolutionary. So while he can start mayhem, I’m pretty sure the tough guy act will drop when his people start getting charges pressed against them.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:50:41pm

re: #210 thedopefishlives

Yeah, I’m with you on that. Kind of like you have to demonstrate proficiency with an automobile before being granted a restricted license for use. I know gun-fuckers hate that comparison, but it is so apt.

One is a Constitutional Right, the other is a Privilege.

Somewhere the legalese should be able to be resolved… .I agree with classes and licensing. Unless a firearm is used in actual self-defense. For that I think a person should get a pass —maybe one a lifetime.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:51:38pm

So I turn on MSNBC and there’s a riot. Thought that was gonna happen at the R convention.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:51:51pm

The “Anarchists” will be flocking to Trump rallies shortly, to feed the chaos

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:51:53pm
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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:52:12pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

“Has anybody tried that wine?” asks Obama facetiously of the Trump winery. “How good can that wine be?” he mocks.

Man, if Mittens and Rubio can get into Trump’s head, Obama’s talking the top floor and living rent-free.

I’m really starting to hope he wins the nomination so I can watch Hillary, Bill and POTUS go to work. He’ll have a nervous breakdown.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:52:23pm

re: #227 freetoken

Yup.

Problem for Trump, though, is that he actually cares about his own skin. He’s no real revolutionary. So while he can start mayhem, I’m pretty sure the tough guy act will drop when his people start getting charges pressed against them.

That’s over. A bunch of kids just reversed the victim/aggressor dynamic.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:52:36pm

Fascist gets what fascist deserves.
News at 11.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:53:11pm
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ipsos  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:53:12pm

I’m pretty sure when they went live to John Chancellor on the floor of the Republican convention in Chicago in 1968, he didn’t start off by saying, “Hey, guys!”

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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:53:34pm

Fairly sure I never thought I’d see a large snapping turtle swimming up to my now-40-percent submerged satellite dish. Maybe it was love. Or house envy.

At least it turned sunny this afternoon, although that’s its own brand of psych-ops torture: blue skies but the water still rising.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:53:36pm

re: #168 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

This business of making a woman who has had a miscarriage responsible for burial or cremation of the remains is a new low, even for rabid so-con assholes.

I think some really nasty ACT-UP style activism is called for.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:55:05pm

re: #226 Not a Sparkly Vampire

ALL THOSE DARN LOW-INFO VOTERS!!!1

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:55:36pm

Erin Burnett of CNN just said protesters are preventing democracy. Let that sink in….

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:55:52pm
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plansbandc  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:56:01pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Gorgeous pictures.

FLOTUS and the girls look radiant. The PM and his wife are lovely. The thing that I like the most though, is how absolutely joyful our President seems to be. It’s nice to see.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:56:03pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:56:45pm

re: #241 freetoken

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Oh, my mistake, I thought it was a Klan rally.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:57:08pm

Sorry GOP, them folks are just “open carrying” their 1st Amendment rights…

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:57:15pm

re: #243 Nyet

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UNSKEW THE POLLS!11ty

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:57:50pm

re: #229 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So I turn on MSNBC and there’s a riot. Thought that was gonna happen at the R convention.

Things move faster in the age of Twitter.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:58:56pm

re: #229 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So I turn on MSNBC and there’s a riot. Thought that was gonna happen at the R convention.

Preview of coming attractions.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:59:05pm
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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:59:15pm

So when will Fox News call the violent perpetrators at Trump’s rally in Chicago “thugs?” I’ll wait…

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 4:59:53pm

Every thing Trump stands for is a mockery of democracy.
Don’t give me that crap, CNN.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:00:24pm

Except for Erin Burnett, the CNN talking heads are all blaming Trump and dumping on him.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:01:17pm

In the last 20 minutes Cleveland just ordered another 10,000 sets of riot gear… //

The GOP convention is going to be insane. Cleveland in mid July heat…

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:03:37pm

Rinsed must be drinking himself into a stupor right now, because this is his preview of Cleveland unless the party can work out a way to get a brokered convention.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:03:51pm

Trump isn’t the only one who caught naive marks:

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:04:16pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

I figured he’s on his second bottle today already.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:04:17pm

bbl

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:04:48pm

Rebecca’s excellent description of Rage Furby’s “involvement” in the altercation:

If you would like to read something stupider about the whole thing, Chuck C. Johnson has some pixels for you, you probably shouldn’t read it but it boils down to: Michelle Fields once said Allen West groped her, but then didn’t want to be a source, but I went with it anyway or something because I am an awesome reporter but I don’t know if I believe her now, and also she reports in heels and maybe falls down a lot. (That is a true and accurate summation of Chuck C. Johnson’s me-too blog post on the matter, minus him bitching about guns or something, I don’t know, he’s a very bad writer and bad at his job.)

wonkette.com

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:04:49pm

re: #255 freetoken

Trump isn’t the only one who caught naive marks:

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Same with Sister Sarah. They are blasting her on FB.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:06:12pm

Any comment from Chris Christie?

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:06:23pm

Take a good hard look at this, Republicans. You built this.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:06:44pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:07:05pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

Rinsed must be drinking himself into a stupor right now, because this is his preview of Cleveland unless the party can work out a way to get a brokered convention.

We are looking at maybe a 2% HRC win. Unless a pack of assholes, provocateurs, and ill-disciplined “good guys” try that shit. Reince could be scripting a return to the old Radical Terror.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:07:22pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:07:29pm

re: #260 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

Any comment from Chris Christie?

It’s kinda hard to hear them through the gimp suit.

//

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bratwurst  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:07:35pm

Edit: fell for yet another parody account…but just below you see Hoft saying basically the same thing!

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:07:53pm

Because he’s the SMOTI.

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:08:26pm

re: #266 bratwurst

Parody account. 250 followers.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:08:40pm

It’s just a matter of time before someone gets killed. The powder keg is at 400 degrees C.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:09:17pm

Nice fake O’Reilly account…

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:10:03pm

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

See #268.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:10:06pm

NO, U R THE FASCIST!

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:10:45pm

re: #268 Billy Batts

And no Czech Mark.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:10:53pm

re: #268 Billy Batts

Parody account. 250 followers.

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

Nice fake O’Reilly account…

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“What difference does it make?”

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:06pm

re: #272 jaunte

NO, U R THE FASCIST!

AM NOT

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:28pm

re: #274 Decatur Deb

“What difference does it make?”

barely any

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:32pm

re: #275 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

AM NOT

R 2!

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:39pm
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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:51pm

re: #277 Not a Sparkly Vampire

R 2!

OH YEAH?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:52pm

re: #258 BeachDem

Rebecca’s excellent description of Rage Furby’s “involvement” in the altercation:

If you would like to read something stupider about the whole thing, Chuck C. Johnson has some pixels for you, you probably shouldn’t read it but it boils down to: Michelle Fields once said Allen West groped her, but then didn’t want to be a source, but I went with it anyway or something because I am an awesome reporter but I don’t know if I believe her now, and also she reports in heels and maybe falls down a lot. (That is a true and accurate summation of Chuck C. Johnson’s me-too blog post on the matter, minus him bitching about guns or something, I don’t know, he’s a very bad writer and bad at his job.)

wonkette.com

I’ve just started reading and spit out my tea on this

it is Breitbart, and they’re weird dumb lunatics who genuinely thrill to licking Donald Trump’s powerful and glorious taint

Holy fuck Rebecca!

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:55pm

re: #277 Not a Sparkly Vampire

R 2!

I KNOW U R BUT WUT AM I??!!

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:11:58pm
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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:12:00pm

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Erin Burnett of CNN just said protesters are preventing democracy. Let that sink in….

Confirms my confirmation bias that Erin Burnett is an idiot.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:12:11pm

re: #277 Not a Sparkly Vampire

R 2!

D 2!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:13:20pm

re: #279 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

OH YEAH?

NO!

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:13:22pm

You know Trump is watching this shit and just loving it.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:13:33pm

I didn’t catch the beginning of the fracas, but Trump has a right to hold a rally and say shitty things.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:13:40pm

re: #281 Billy Batts

I KNOW U R BUT WUT AM I??!!

A garbage man.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:13:45pm

re: #278 Jenner7

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“Only if Bernie’s on the ballot! I’ll write his name in before I vote for Hillary!!!!”

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:14:09pm

re: #287 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I didn’t catch the beginning of the fracas, but Trump has a right to hold a rally and say shitty things.

He might have just been tired.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:14:20pm

re: #287 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I didn’t catch the beginning of the fracas, but Trump has a right to hold a rally and say shitty things.

There were hundreds of protesters in the building before he even arrived.

Trump did this on purpose.

Note what he said earlier in the day.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:15:59pm

re: #209 Lidane

Won’t happen in America. Government can’t regulate religion after all.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:16:06pm

re: #291 freetoken

Right. This was intentional. Now he’ll further the narrative, with the help of media, at how “dangerous” the protesters are.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:16:12pm

It’s not as if Trump feels any sense of obligation to appear at a rally his campaign announced. If he thinks he’ll get more mileage from canceling, he will.

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:16:13pm

re: #241 freetoken

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He seems nice…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:16:23pm
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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:16:25pm

Trump is on the phone with Matthews on MSNBC.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:16:49pm

Heh.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:16:53pm

So Trump now has a choice:

1) get even harder in his rhetoric, calling for stronger police tactics, use even more offensive language about those people, etc.; or
2) become a softer, gentler candidate and not hold as big a rallies.

In case 1 Trump will stir up more ire.

In case 2 Trump’s fans will perceive him to be weak.

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:00pm

“I didn’t want to see anyone get hurt.”

Oh, bullshit.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:05pm

re: #297 Billy Batts

Saving MSNBC from an hour of dead air.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:06pm

re: #291 freetoken

Not getting much detail from huffpo and nbcnews.com so far. Looking around.

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bratwurst  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:13pm

re: #287 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I didn’t catch the beginning of the fracas, but Trump has a right to hold a rally and say shitty things.

Absolutely right. However, booking this particular venue in this particular city on this particular day (with everyone having seen the black protester taking a cheap shot from a neanderthal on an endless loop) was a ridiculous idea that was always destined to end badly.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:18pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

Rinsed must be drinking himself into a stupor right now, because this is his preview of Cleveland unless the party can work out a way to get a brokered convention.

Like that would stop riots from happening. Convention maneuvering to take the nomination away from Trump would most likely cause riots.

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:29pm

re: #298 Lidane

Isn’t he the NYT’s token conservadouche?

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stpaulbear  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:31pm

re: #225 jaunte

This is going to pump a lot of justified victim juice into the Trump supporters.

After the way that Trump rallies have been going you don’t think that he deserves some pushback? He thinks he can be a continuously braying asshole without anyone telling him to stuff it? I think it’s good for Trump supporters to know that they’re not the only ones who are fighting mad.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:17:59pm

re: #283 BeachDem

Confirms my confirmation bias that Erin Burnett is an idiot.

This whole CNN broadcast though, is not favorable to Trump at all.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:18:44pm
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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:18:45pm

re: #299 freetoken

Play the victim. Works with this crowd, paradoxically.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:18:52pm

re: #290 jaunte

He might have just been tired.

Hair was FUBAR

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:19:01pm

re: #305 Billy Batts

Isn’t he the NYT’s token conservadouche?

Yup.

Which means the True Conservatives thinks he’s too compromised.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:19:09pm

re: #306 stpaulbear

He should get pushback. It’s just that it also energizes his supporters.

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:19:19pm

“There’s so much anger in the country.” Dude, you’re exploiting that anger.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:19:23pm

Chris, ask him if he doesn’t condone violence, then why is he at the same time encouraging it?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:19:30pm

Trump playing the innocent card on MSNBC right now.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:19:59pm

Yikes!
I go away for a nap, as people my age sometimes do; and it’s 1968 again when I come back, in Chicago no less.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:20:12pm

re: #307 Stanley Sea

This whole CNN broadcast though, is not favorable to Trump at all.

Erin Burnett, who is a closeted conservative, was attempting the “both sides do it”, and “how dare those protestors protest”.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:20:22pm

re: #293 Jenner7

Right. This was intentional. Now he’ll further the narrative, with the help of media, at how “dangerous” the protesters are.

But you know what? I’ll be one of those protesters. Many other porcelain whiteys will/are joining in.

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Billy Batts  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:20:38pm

Even when a rally gets cancelled because of violence, Trump can’t shut the fuck up about the size of them.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:21:02pm

re: #316 Shiplord Kirel

Time travel.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:21:24pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:22:05pm

re: #298 Lidane

Behold, the blind pig has found an acorn. Douthat can rest easy now, since he only needs to do that once or twice a decade.

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calochortus  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:22:24pm

re: #316 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes!
I go away for a nap, as people my age sometimes do; and it’s 1968 again when I come back, in Chicago no less.

All your aches and pains go away now that it’s 50+ years earlier?

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:22:45pm

re: #305 Billy Batts

Isn’t he the NYT’s token conservadouche?

Him and David Brooks, IIRC.

Brooks is busy trying to pretend that the GOP are drunk and looking at Trumpy through beer goggles. Douthat thinks that Trumpy’s supporters are being hoodwinked by a seekrit librul.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:22:50pm

re: #303 bratwurst

Absolutely right. However, booking this particular venue in this particular city on this particular day (with everyone having seen the black protester taking a cheap shot from a neanderthal on an endless loop) was a ridiculous idea that was always destined to end badly.

Define “badly” from a Trump staffer perspective.

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:23:13pm

OK, enough of this surreal bullshit—I’m going to go watch some House of Cards for some more realistic political noise.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:23:35pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:23:36pm

re: #305 Billy Batts

Isn’t he the NYT’s token conservadouche?

David effing Brooks also provides conservadouche services for the NYT.

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:23:39pm

BLM will be the designated scapegoat.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:23:39pm

Dan Bongino is carrying Trump’s water on CNN. He refuses to admit that Trump has any responsibility of the riots. But, this isn’t happening anywhere else.

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calochortus  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:24:03pm

It’s raining sideways here. With gusts. If I disappear suddenly from the internet, it will be because a branch fell on something electrical in nature.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:24:04pm
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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:24:16pm

re: #308 Dr. Matt

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Remember all of those Congressional Town Halls that the Teabaggers disrupted?

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:24:49pm

re: #306 stpaulbear

This is the kind of reaction I was thinking about.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:25:08pm

Good dog, Trump is live on the phone on MSNBC right now…..fucking librul media.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:25:18pm

re: #299 freetoken

So Trump now has a choice:

1) get even harder in his rhetoric, calling for stronger police tactics, use even more offensive language about those people, etc.; or
2) become a softer, gentler candidate and not hold as big a rallies.

In case 1 Trump will stir up more ire.

In case 2 Trump’s fans will perceive him to be weak.

Good point.

He loses either way. I’m hoping.

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calochortus  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:25:21pm

re: #330 Dr. Matt

Dan Bongino is carrying Trump’s water on CNN. He refuses to admit that Trump has any responsibility of the riots. But, this isn’t happening anywhere else.

Well, the Freepers think this has just handed the presidency to Trump for some reason, so there’s that.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:25:24pm

“I don’t want to see people hurt.”

Except the protesters, because they deserve it.

Jeebus. This guy is the dangerous one, not the protesters.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:25:46pm
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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:25:47pm

Trump was not avoiding but in fact counting on an incident like this. Watch him make use of it.

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:26:14pm

re: #324 Lidane

Him and David Brooks, IIRC.

Brooks is busy trying to pretend that the GOP are drunk and looking at Trumpy through beer goggles. Douthat thinks that Trumpy’s supporters are being hoodwinked by a seekrit librul.

And, as Kaili Joy explains
Sad Drunk David Brooks Doesn’t Have To Go Home, But He Can’t Stay Here

wonkette.com

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:26:39pm

re: #334 jaunte

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This is the kind of reaction I was thinking about.

But I think it can’t play out that way.

Trump has sold himself as the strongman. But now he is on MSNBC complaining about Bernie.

Either Trump has to be the strongman, or his followers who are lusting for such will just go away.

But Trump will get increasing blowback every day he marches towards Cleveland.

I think Trump just loves his skin too much to really go through with his rhetoric.

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:26:43pm

So it is the Sandbaggers, who promise to vote for Trump over Hillary, who are disrupting Trump events?

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:27:04pm

re: #343 b.d.

So it is the Sandbaggers, who promise to vote for Trump over Hillary, who are disrupting Trump events?

Just roll with it.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:27:18pm

re: #333 b.d.

Remember all of those Congressional Town Halls that the Teabaggers disrupted?

But, those were about Freeeduuum!!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:27:27pm

re: #315 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Trump playing the innocent card on MSNBC right now.

Carnival barker goes into they found me out mode.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:27:39pm
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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:28:00pm

re: #340 Great White Snark

Trump was not avoiding but in fact counting on an incident like this. Watch him make use of it.

Yes, he will make use of it.

But I think he was out fishing for a nice little bonito but a marlin came out of the deep and snatched the line.

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:28:06pm

I smell Ted Cruz

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:28:11pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

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I didn’t need to read that…
Thanks, Obama.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:28:21pm

re: #319 Billy Batts

Even when a rally gets cancelled because of violence, Trump can’t shut the fuck up about the size of them.

Yep

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:28:23pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:28:24pm

re: #336 Stanley Sea

Good point.

He loses either way. I’m hoping.

Trump will almost certainly double down on this stuff. His whole campaign is based on him being a bully and an asshole, and that’s not going to stop now.

Whether he ends up losing remains to be seen. He’s on track to win the GOP nomination, and if he is the GOP nominee the general election is going to be absolutely nuts.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:29:15pm

Shot across the bow!

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:29:58pm

re: #354 Dr. Matt

Shot across the bow!

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I think I saw a sign at that rally that said, ‘Fuck your hair!’

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:30:17pm

re: #329 Great White Snark

BLM will be the designated scapegoat.

As I said, he hasn’t seen us whiteys yet!

California events are when? Seriously, I’m meeting up with you and your cameras.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:30:18pm

re: #337 calochortus

Well, the Freepers think this has just handed the presidency to Trump for some reason, so there’s that.

I’ve seen a bit of LOL LIBTARDS UR PROTESTS GOT NIXON ELECTED IN 1968 TOO on Twitter. It’s mind-boggling in its stupidity.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:30:22pm

re: #347 goddamnedfrank

…where it doubtless affects the tides.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:30:24pm

re: #355 Not a Sparkly Vampire

“Too late!”

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:30:26pm

re: #354 Dr. Matt

Shot across the bow!

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Also, is that a bad thing?
I do that…

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:30:57pm

re: #354 Dr. Matt

Shot across the bow!

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OH SNAP!

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:31:06pm
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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:31:10pm

re: #360 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Also, is that a bad thing?
I do that…

It is in Chicago. They’re … special.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:31:25pm

re: #331 calochortus

It’s raining sideways here. With gusts. If I disappear suddenly from the internet, it will be because a branch fell on something electrical in nature.

My bamboo (supposedly secured) patio blocker was swaying insanely. You are before me, so there’s more to come………ugh.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:31:36pm

re: #360 Not a Sparkly Vampire

Also, is that a bad thing?
I do that…

That could get you arrested in certain parts of Chicago.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:32:05pm

re: #363 thedopefishlives

It is in Chicago. They’re … special.

re: #365 Dr. Matt

That could get you arrested in certain parts of Chicago.

The more you know, eh?

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:32:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:33:00pm

re: #337 calochortus

Well, the Freepers think this has just handed the presidency to Trump for some reason, so there’s that.

I still think it’s the 27%

I hope.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:33:16pm
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calochortus  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:33:49pm

re: #364 Stanley Sea

My bamboo (supposedly secured) patio blocker was swaying insanely. You are before me, so there’s more to come………ugh.

We, umm, need the rain, right?

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Lancelot Link  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:33:59pm

re: #349 b.d.

I smell Ted Cruz

No, that was just an accident at the mayonnaise factory.

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Brian J.  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:34:02pm

re: #219 Nyet

I’m too lazy to do the math so take it for what it is, just a comment:

If the average margins according to Huffington Post’s Pollster hold, Hillary will gain about 170 delegates more than Bernie on Tuesday, and will have a lead of just about exactly 2 to 1 overall. She’ll be just over 700 delegates from the nomination; Sanders would need 70 percent of all remaining delegates to catch up.

Unless the polls are ALL wrong favoring Sanders, it’s effectively over on Tuesday night.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:34:08pm

Steve Stockman, actually elected to Congress at one point, desperately trying to weave Hillary into it somehow.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:34:13pm
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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:34:27pm

Yep.

And

Yep.

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:34:35pm

Hahahahaha,

Those ill mannered hooligans!

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stpaulbear  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:35:37pm

re: #334 jaunte

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This is the kind of reaction I was thinking about.

Is it justified?

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:36:17pm

re: #356 Stanley Sea

As I said, he hasn’t seen us whiteys yet!

California events are when? Seriously, I’m meeting up with you and your cameras.

I could not find anything scheduled yet. But then I have not yet picked up the phone and called a Trump campaign office to ask either. I’m going. And I’d welcome strong minds and cool heads to help do this well.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:36:51pm

re: #365 Dr. Matt

That could get you arrested in certain parts of Chicago.

In certain parts of life.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:37:11pm

re: #377 stpaulbear

Not to me, I think Trump is a ridiculous choice for president. I’m observing that he’s cultivating the easily agitated.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:37:40pm

re: #377 stpaulbear

Is it justified?

It’s truthy enough.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:37:55pm

BBL, gotta update Windows.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:38:10pm

Now Trump’s on Fox News with Greta.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:39:52pm

Hmmm…

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A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:40:07pm

re: #158 I Stand With Planned Parenthood

One trainer told us that there are two types of gun owners —those that have had an accidental discharge and those that haven’t.

ALWAYS POINT THE GUN IN A SAFE DIRECTION

KNOW WHAT IS A SAFE DIRECTION.

I use a lot of power tools (table saws, miter saws, routers, etc.) and follow one basic rule: respect the tool. Understanding the dangers and never letting your guard down is crucial. It’s too easy to get casual about using and handling the tools, and that’s when you get hurt.

The same rule applies to firearms. If you fail even once to respect it’s abilities and dangers, you or a family member can end up hurt or dead. One of my biggest fears about the proliferation of people walking around armed is that the people have become casual about handling and carrying the weapon.

The regular stories of kids getting hold of guns with tragic consequences reinforces that my fear is real. One recent story in the news was a second amendment advocate who let’s her 4 year old shoot a 22 cal handgun and bragged about how much the kid loved it. Kid was in the back seat, finds his mom’s “new toy” (her words for a 45 cal auto) and shots his mom (while she was driving) in the back.

She got too casual about the gun. Why else would she leave it in reach of the kid? She was too casual about it’s danger, letting a 4 year old shoot. Her lack of respect will result in another “accident” as she hasn’t allowed being shot my her child change her opinions. (She survived).

I don’t want to take away anyone’s guns. I just don’t want idiots who are too casual with their “toys” carrying them in public.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:40:38pm

Wow. Trump just said “they didn’t shut down the rally because more people are watching now on TV.”

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:40:48pm

re: #375 Jenner7

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Yep.

Yes, that’s what David Gergen was saying. Ole Dave, a product of the more calm times (his voice!!) Time for Trump to be presidential.

Again, there are more people turned off from his bullshit than are for it.

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:41:20pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:41:49pm

re: #334 jaunte

Trump supporter on CNN: “The left is TRYING to get him elected tonight.

well it worked so well for hubert humphrey in 1968

the whole world is watching, donald

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:41:50pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:42:05pm

re: #384 Lidane

Hmmm…

Pierre Omidyar

Well, there’s my spiritual adviser.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:42:19pm

Now that Godwin’s law has been repealed, at least in relation to Trump’s tactics, it is worth noting that the Schutzstaffel (“protection squad”) was originally formed to provide security at Nazi party rallies. It became infamous by its initials, SS, usually written in Armanen runes. The SA, ie Browshirts, already existed, but the leadership felt the need for a better organized and disciplined force as a kind of elite guard.

I could easily see Trump doing something similar, and citing the inadequacy of “politically correct” police as a justification.

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ipsos  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:42:39pm

One of the marks of true statesmanship is the ability to calm an enraged crowd with well-crafted words.

RFK didn’t cancel his appearance the night Martin Luther King was assassinated. He stood with an angry crowd and provided the words of calm they needed to hear.

Could a Donald Trump do that? Can anyone today?

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Danack  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:43:22pm

re: #340 Great White Snark

Trump was not avoiding but in fact counting on an incident like this. Watch him make use of it.

He may try to make use of it but:

i) The people who are attracted to Trump do so at least in part because they think they are the silent moral suppressed majority. Having a large number of people protest against Trump is going to go against their world view that it’s only the political establishment that is against Trump.

ii) It’s far too early….if this was a few weeks before the election Trump could use it to fire up his base of voters. But 8 months before the election is far too long a time to keep people fired up and ‘entertained’ for lack of a better word. Even Republicans should get sick of Trump’s violent rhetoric after it’s caused months of disturbances.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:44:01pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:44:27pm

re: #388 No Depression

“We stopped Trump!” is the chant now at his canceled rally in Chicago.

Dimwits.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:44:28pm

humpf after all that strongman talk put off by a few thousand protesters

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:44:54pm

re: #389 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

well it worked so well for hubert humphrey in 1968

the whole world is watching, donald

Dan Bongino made the statement, he’s a Cruz supporter

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:45:14pm

How did I not see this!?

Of course!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:45:48pm

re: #340 Great White Snark

Trump was not avoiding but in fact counting on an incident like this. Watch him make use of it.

he will try but he may find that it won’t work the way he wants to spin it

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:46:27pm

re: #378 Great White Snark

I could not find anything scheduled yet. But then I have not yet picked up the phone and called a Trump campaign office to ask either. I’m going. And I’d welcome strong minds and cool heads to help do this well.

I’m RSVPing.

Cool head? Sure.

I’ll try. If not, you’ll have great footage of this 53 yr old getting taken DOWN.

joking

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:46:31pm
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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:46:53pm
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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:46:57pm

re: #397 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

humpf after all that strongman talk put off by a few thousand protesters

Outside.

Inside there were probably only a few hundred.

But that was enough, because Trump knows that while he can stand on stage and try to humiliate a single protester, when a couple of hundred stand up he’s clueless.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:47:04pm

re: #396 Decatur Deb

Dimwits.

I’m not so sure about that. This might count as the first opposition to Trump to have achieved any success at all.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:47:24pm

Leave I’ll just here this….

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ipsos  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:47:32pm

re: #399 b.d.

How did I not see this!?

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Of course!

She spelled all the words correctly, even the hard ones like “delusional.”

FALSE FLAG!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:48:45pm

re: #404 freetoken

Outside.

Inside there were probably only a few hundred.

But that was enough, because Trump knows that while he can stand on stage and try to humiliate a single protester, when a couple of hundred stand up he’s clueless.

bullies: they love to dish it out but they can’t take it

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:49:01pm

re: #405 EPR-radar

I’m not so sure about that. This might count as the first opposition to Trump to have achieved any success at all.

Trump, Klansmen, and Nazis get to have rallies.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:49:15pm
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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:49:16pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:49:23pm

re: #407 ipsos

She spelled all the words correctly, even the hard ones like “delusional.”

FALSE FLAG!

Abuse of capitalization and an agreement error “If anyone …. you are” are signs of authenticity.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:50:03pm

re: #406 Dr. Matt

Leave I’ll just here this….

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Someone thought a little bit too hard about how camera lenses work.

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Danack  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:50:27pm

Live feed of a confrontation between police and protestors:

Donald Trump RALLY Chicago PROTESTERS GO WILD | Donald Trump LIVE Chicago Rally

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:50:27pm

re: #411 freetoken

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Andrew is doing the work.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:50:34pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:51:49pm

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Trump, Klansmen, and Nazis get to have rallies.

And the counter protestors get to have their say as well. In this case, my take is that the protestors obliged Trump to back down from another round of planned bullying.

I’m not seeing much of a problem here.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:52:31pm

The protesters are coming into the Trump supporters “Safe Space” (?).

I just heard that on Rachel.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:53:38pm

re: #417 EPR-radar

And the counter protestors get to have their say as well. In this case, my take is that the protestors obliged Trump to back down from another round of planned bullying.

I’m not seeing much of a problem here.

Why do you think he keeps raising the level? He wants the mantle of victimhood for his paranoid mob.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:54:08pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:54:49pm

Seen elsewhere:

It’s time for Ben Carson to speak to the protesters so he can put them to sleep.

That does seem like it would be a very effective security measure. Reince Preibus should book Carson at the GOP convention for exactly this purpose.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:55:35pm

re: #419 Decatur Deb

Why do you think he keeps raising the level? He wants the mantle of victimhood for his paranoid mob.

There’s no way a majority of America will fall into this.

It’s his way out?

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:56:43pm

Maybe I’m crazy. Wishful thinking. Did not sleep in a Holiday inn. But could this be the first big shout back at Trump? My home state? He will get his proverbial ass handed to him. On every level offered.

The scary part-He could set off race riots. Or might have tonight.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:57:12pm

re: #422 Stanley Sea

There’s no way a majority of America will fall into this.

It’s his way out?

Will Bill Clinton still owe him $1 still?

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TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:57:14pm

re: #384 Lidane

Hmmm…

That’s some damn gall, coming from him.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:57:27pm

re: #422 Stanley Sea

There’s no way a majority of America will fall into this.

It’s his way out?

Right now he wants the majority of hardcore Republicans and they’ve been falling in like lemmings.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:57:52pm

re: #422 Stanley Sea

I would hope this is the start of the end.

Cruz is easy, he will lose the general.

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:58:08pm

I wonder what the Michelle Fields interview tonight on Fox will be about?

She’s just been Trumped.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:58:14pm

re: #419 Decatur Deb

Why do you think he keeps raising the level? He wants the mantle of victimhood for his paranoid mob.

Yes.

But… one can’t be both the whining victim and the victorious strongman at the same time.

It just doesn’t work.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:58:53pm

re: #429 freetoken

Yes.

But… one can’t be both the whining victim and the victorious strongman at the same time.

It just doesn’t work.

I fail to see why this bit of cognitive dissonance is impossible, given all the other varieties we’ve seen the GOP peddle for the past few years.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:59:00pm

re: #429 freetoken

But… one can’t be both the whining victim and the victorious strongman at the same time.

This is the Tea Party Way.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:59:21pm

Trump needs a bloody shirt to wave, or a Horst Wessel to bury.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:59:21pm

Also the NRA Way.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 5:59:57pm

And the Lost Cause Religion of the South.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:00:01pm

re: #431 jaunte

This is the Tea Party Way.

They’re good at the whining victim part.

But they are not so good at the victorious strongman part.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:00:14pm

re: #419 Decatur Deb

Why do you think he keeps raising the level? He wants the mantle of victimhood for his paranoid mob.

Of course this is the plan. So now we are faced with two low probability scenarios for this approach to fail:

1) The media accurately reports on who started this shit (i.e., Trump).

2) The anti-Trump protestors remain saintly paragons of democratic virtue despite endless provocations from Trump’s goon squad.

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:00:21pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:00:30pm

re: #429 freetoken

Yes.

But… one can’t be both the whining victim and the victorious strongman at the same time.

It just doesn’t work.

Of course you can. “We will crush you and your Treaty of Versailles.”

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:01:04pm

re: #438 Decatur Deb

“We were stabbed in the back.”

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calochortus  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:01:41pm

Dinner time.

BBL

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:02:52pm

re: #438 Decatur Deb

But the Germans had a case (sort of, kind of) about how bad the treaty was, and even we (the US) didn’t like it because it was onerous.

This is a different situation today.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:02:58pm

re: #430 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I fail to see why this bit of cognitive dissonance is impossible, given all the other varieties we’ve seen the GOP peddle for the past few years.

Considering that the wingnuts have had years to perfect exactly this sort of schtick, I’m sure they feel right at home.

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:03:13pm

re: #414 Danack

Live feed of a confrontation between police and protestors:

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Video

Crossing my fingers this is our next thread.
Thanks for that feed!

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:03:34pm

re: #394 Danack

i) The people who are attracted to Trump do so at least in part because they think they are the silent moral suppressed majority. Having a large number of people protest against Trump is going to go against their world view that it’s only the political establishment that is against Trump.

I wish this were true, but…no.

While Trump voters might declare themselves against the political “establishment” of the GOP, their anger doesn’t stop there, and their worldview is built on all of the groups of people who don’t count. Really, all Trumpism has done is incorporate the milder-talking members of the GOP and their outsourcing-heavy labor policy into the existing, pre-Trump paranoia about the conspiracy that’s keeping them from prospering.

This anti-Trump protest will be used exactly the same way all the smaller ones have been: to nurse that sense of a right to retaliate, and that everyone disagreeing with them is to blame.

ii) It’s far too early….if this was a few weeks before the election Trump could use it to fire up his base of voters. But 8 months before the election is far too long a time to keep people fired up and ‘entertained’ for lack of a better word. Even Republicans should get sick of Trump’s violent rhetoric after it’s caused months of disturbances.

Again…not really, given the cultural underpinning of what Trump’s doing.

He didn’t create the sentiment that’s driving these people—that’s been there for ages. All he’s done is given them license to be as ugly as they want. They already believe conspiracy theories; they already believe in the GOP folk bestiary of black welfare cheat and Mexicans desperate to sponge off of us. Some of the tropes at play are forty, even eighty, years old…stuff that Birchers and Southern Democrats used to toss about.

The people engaged by this aren’t going to burn out because of the intensity of the rhetoric—they’ve been longing for this. They might quit if he faltered in intensity…but all this hateful shit is the culmination of their worldview, without the need for propriety.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:03:41pm

re: #423 Great White Snark

Maybe I’m crazy. Wishful thinking. Did not sleep in a Holiday inn. But could this be the first big shout back at Trump? My home state? He will get his proverbial ass handed to him. On every level offered.

The scary part-He could set off race riots. Or might have tonight.

Be careful defining this on race imo. There are plenty of white people protesting. Plenty. The 2 areas of protest today are very diverse.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:04:07pm

re: #426 Decatur Deb

Right now he wants the majority of hardcore Republicans and they’ve been falling in like lemmings.

27%

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:04:31pm
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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:04:53pm

That’s why I posted the tweet from Andrew.

Trump’s people = Wallace’s people. Trump’s strategy is to get that aging block, as well as young people who are foolishly caught up in it. This is a long, lingering resentment.

The problem is that Trump can only really win if he slow-cooks the resentment. A rapid boil will just blow up in his face.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:06:00pm

ARRRGH. Electricity came back for about 40 minutes, then cut out again.

@*#+%~

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:06:04pm

re: #443 Great White Snark

Crossing my fingers this is our next thread.

Thanks for that feed!

The ghost of President McGovern sheds a nostalgic tear.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:06:20pm

re: #449 Charles Johnson

ARRRGH. Electricity came back for about 40 minutes, then cut out again.

@*#+%~

What would we do without mobile devices?

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:07:03pm

re: #441 freetoken

But the Germans had a case (sort of, kind of) about how bad the treaty was, and even we (the US) didn’t like it because it was onerous.

This is a different situation today.

Facts don’t matter to wingnuts. They are perfectly programmed to embrace a backstab legend based entirely on lies. The fact that the US economy now is much better than the German economy was then is also irrelevant to wingnuts.

It will be interesting to see if Trump comes up with a betrayal fable to spoon feed to his supporters, or if it will be left to their fevered imaginations.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:07:32pm

Those were all Bill Ayers’ students who shut down Trump!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:08:10pm

re: #449 Charles Johnson

ARRRGH. Electricity came back for about 40 minutes, then cut out again.

@*#+%~

Which part of Pyongyang do you live in?

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lockjawcanbefun  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:08:49pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:10:16pm

re: #455 lockjawcanbefun

I like that. Ridicule is one of the better items in the anti-fascist toolkit.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:10:23pm

re: #455 lockjawcanbefun

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Okay, I know this is a serious situation and all, but that shit’s funny, I don’t care who y’are.

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:10:31pm

The buck stops with some loser.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:11:05pm

BillO is drunk again:

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:11:13pm

re: #458 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The buck stops with some loser.

The trick to staying in power: Surround yourself with two-bit flunkies you can pin any crisis on. You can always replace ‘em.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:12:10pm

re: #459 Lidane

BillO is drunk again:

[Embedded content]

Oh bite me Bill. Trump’s the one with authoritarian wet dreams not Senator Sanders despite what you and the other fascists on Fox believe.

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:12:24pm

re: #445 Stanley Sea

Be careful defining this on race imo. There are plenty of white people protesting. Plenty. The 2 areas of protest today are very diverse.

Thank you for that correction. Maybe I’m going to be a white protester at a Trump rally!?

What had me saying that was a sense of a cumulative connected frustration. The Donald is becoming an icon for his own hate with the black community. From what I see in the video some are connecting Donald to the tensions they rightly have with police. That was a black man that took a sucker punch and got dropped by police just a day or two ago. Maybe a last straw?

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:12:51pm

re: #450 Decatur Deb

The ghost of President McGovern sheds a nostalgic tear.

Him and Machiavelli.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:13:22pm

OT, but in regards to Lizards informing us of your time away….Where’s Allegro?

WW is good at the Lizard’s last post thingy. Me not.

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:13:24pm

re: #449 Charles Johnson

ARRRGH. Electricity came back for about 40 minutes, then cut out again.

@*#+%~

Late thunderstorm?

466
Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:13:35pm

LOL:

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:14:42pm

re: #459 Lidane

BillO is drunk again:

[Embedded content]

Now, Trump just has to cancel a rally he could easily make and get white people riled up.

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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:14:52pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:15:04pm

re: #464 Stanley Sea

OT, but in regards to Lizards informing us of your time away….Where’s Allegro?

WW is good at the Lizard’s last post thingy. Me not.

Her last comment was Feb. 25.

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b.d.  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:15:32pm

Surveillance still shot of the people who broke up the Trump rally

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:15:34pm
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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:15:59pm

Oh my dog, SHUT UP TRUMP! He makes me want to break my brand new TV.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:16:50pm

re: #449 Charles Johnson

ARRRGH. Electricity came back for about 40 minutes, then cut out again.

@*#+%~

Doing what you do and no UPS? Mercy!

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:16:50pm

More coverage than he might have had normally?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:17:17pm
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Jenner7  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:17:46pm

re: #474 jaunte

Which is what he wanted. He admitted this on Fox News with Greta.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:18:01pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

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To the media, any large gathering of black folks is a “riot.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:18:26pm
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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:18:31pm

re: #476 Jenner7

Now he can get his message out while sitting down.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:19:19pm

re: #474 jaunte

[Embedded content]

More coverage than he might have had normally?

No. Trump has already maxed out coverage from CNN/MSNBC/Fox.

This does present the case, though, to those who were thinking that Trump would just silently slip away, that the GOP now has a mess on its hands with a hyper-polarizing figure.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:19:44pm

re: #474 jaunte

[Embedded content]

More coverage than he might have had normally?

I’m just going to ask every person who gets angry about this how they like getting played by Trump.

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No Depression  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:20:16pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I was thinking it was awfully peaceful for a “riot”. Then again, conservatives think any large gathering of brown people is a riot, no matter what.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:20:27pm

re: #456 EPR-radar

I like that. Ridicule is one of the better items in the anti-fascist toolkit.

And Trump has already shown that he can’t handle being mocked.

The ‘Zero Fucks Obama’ tweet above is exactly how to go after him.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:20:28pm

re: #452 EPR-radar

The importance of the “stab in back” myth can’t be emphasized enough. That sense of umbrage at being cheated is a powerful thing.

And…again…Trump is just fanning something that’s already there. The cultural “truth” that many Americans—and most foreigners—are either cheaters or thieves is something that’s been furthered for decades. Heck, even as his GOP detractors fault Trump, they attempt to prop up the idea that any liberal American is a mooch that sucks and wants to take your money.

And this is, grossly, why the Trumpist moment is going to stick with us whether he gets the nomination or not. If the former, his rhetoric isn’t so far removed from the GOP standard that they will isolate him…indeed, they are far more likely to try and harness him. If the latter…well Trump has put butts in seats by a further elaboration of the preferred conspiracy theory: others are going to imitate him.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:20:52pm

re: #482 No Depression

Large gathering = minimum of 1.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:21:10pm

re: #482 No Depression

Yeah I was thinking it was awfully peaceful for a “riot”. Then again, conservatives think any large gathering of brown people is a riot, no matter what.

A group of flamingos is a flamboyance.
A group of blacks is a riot. //

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jaunte  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:21:12pm

Reince: ‘This party is going to support the nominee, whoever that is. There’s no question about that.’

488
Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:21:25pm

re: #419 Decatur Deb

Why do you think he keeps raising the level? He wants the mantle of victimhood for his paranoid mob.

Also notice that in American history, right wing violence tends to get excused as a response to left wing provocation.

Left wing violence never gets the same consideration.

Historically, right wing mobs can throw punches, burn down African American towns, hang people from trees and (right here in North Carolina) actually perpetrate an armed coup against an elected government.

Left wing organizers get arrested, deported as subversives, tracked by COINTELPRO and murdered in the streets.

489
EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:21:29pm

re: #480 freetoken

No. Trump has already maxed out coverage from CNN/MSNBC/Fox.

This does present the case, though, to those who were thinking that Trump would just silently slip away, that the GOP now has a mess on its hands with a hyper-polarizing figure.

Who on earth was thinking Trump would silently disappear? Among pundits, only the never-correct Bill Kristol would seem to be stupid enough to have believed this.

490
stpaulbear  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:22:25pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

It was a riot just like Tiananmen Square!!!!!

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:23:56pm

re: #490 stpaulbear

It was a riot just like Tiananmen Square!!!!!

They shut me down as if I were standing in front of a tank.

492
EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:24:12pm

re: #484 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

The importance of the “stab in back” myth can’t be emphasized enough. That sense of umbrage at being cheated is a powerful thing.

And…again…Trump is just fanning something that’s already there. The cultural “truth” that many Americans—and most foreigners—are either cheaters or thieves is something that’s been furthered for decades. Heck, even as his GOP detractors fault Trump, they attempt to prop up the idea that any liberal American is a mooch that sucks and wants to take your money.

And this is, grossly, why the Trumpist moment is going to stick with us whether he gets the nomination or not. If the former, his rhetoric isn’t so far removed from the GOP standard that they will isolate him…indeed, they are far more likely to try and harness him. If the latter…well Trump has put butts in seats by a further elaboration of the preferred conspiracy theory: others are going to imitate him.

I’ve said before that for the GOP to go all the way fascist, it needs a charismatic leader and increased acceptance of scapegoating as a solution to political problems.

Trump’s candidacy gets us perilously close to both of these.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:24:13pm

This really goes without saying. But for once, I am proud to be a Chicagoan.

494
Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:25:10pm

re: #469 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Her last comment was Feb. 25.

OK. tks

495
Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:25:49pm

re: #490 stpaulbear

THESE LIBRULS R JUST LIEK TEH NAZIS WITH THEIR JACKBOOTS AND BROWN SHIRTS!

496
Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:26:21pm

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was no riot here in Chicago. It was a demonstration. If you’re calling it a “riot,” perhaps you’ve never seen an actual riot.

Give Ailes 90 seconds of video of jostled cameras, a few black kids, and some shouting. His editors will have all the riot he needs. This is supposed to be the digitally-hip generation.

497
Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:28:26pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:28:52pm

re: #479 jaunte

Now he can get his message out while sitting down.

with FUBAR hair

499
freetoken  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:30:01pm

re: #489 EPR-radar

Who on earth was thinking Trump would silently disappear? Among pundits, only the never-correct Bill Kristol would seem to be stupid enough to have believed this.

Yeah, him.

500
Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:30:52pm
501
Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:31:22pm

re: #494 Stanley Sea

I hope Allegro didn’t leave. :(

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:32:54pm

re: #494 Stanley Sea

Thinking about how to best go about a visit to a Trump rally, cameras probably strictly cell phone to cloud. Bring say a DSLR and probably can’t get in or get put in a cage with MSM guys.

503
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:34:43pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:37:16pm

re: #499 freetoken

Yeah, him.

Ah. If I’d known Bill Kristol thought Trump would just go away, I’d never have wasted any time at all thinking about possibilities where Trump is not the GOP nominee.

That man seriously needs to go to Vegas with a confederate, make $100 bets opposite to $1000 bets made by the confederate, and bankrupt all the casinos in the city.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:37:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:37:22pm

re: #501 Ziggy_TARDIS

I hope Allegro didn’t leave. :(

She didn’t leave. I sent her email. Hope all’s OK.

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calochortus  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:37:45pm

re: #486 Belafon

A group of flamingos is a flamboyance.
A group of blacks is a riot. //

Hence the term “a riot of color.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:38:07pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:38:24pm
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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:38:48pm

Bill Kristol thought Trump was just going to go away?

Fuck.

That means he’ll be ruling us all seated atop a throne of pelvises.

511
Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:38:50pm

re: #502 Great White Snark

Thinking about how to best go about a visit to a Trump rally, cameras probably strictly cell phone to cloud. Bring say a DSLR and probably can’t get in or get put in a cage with MSM guys.

GoPro with wifi. Looks like a toy, can take a hit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:39:07pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:39:11pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

More of this. Obama telling the truth about Republicans is exactly what we need.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:39:15pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No Fucks Obama. We’ve waited awhile very patiently. And are now rewarded.

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:39:58pm

re: #501 Ziggy_TARDIS

Many good things can take us away from our shared oasis here for a time. Even the mundane sometimes. Too soon to worry.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:41:49pm

re: #514 Stanley Sea

Patiens est virtui = Patience is a virtue. It is also a son of a &^$ to acquire.

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EPR-radar  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:41:50pm

re: #514 Stanley Sea

No Fucks Obama. We’ve waited awhile very patiently. And are now rewarded.

I think Obama will find a way to make the Republicans squeal like stuck pigs over their SCOTUS obstruction.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:42:08pm

re: #516 PhillyPretzel

Patiens est virtui = Patience is a virtue. It is also a son of a &^$ to acquire.

The way I always phrased it: “Patience is a virtue… one that I don’t have.”

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stpaulbear  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:42:32pm

re: #503 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yowsa!!

520
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:43:51pm

What’s the over/under on someone getting killed at a Trump rally before this is all over?

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Great White Snark  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:47:08pm

re: #511 Decatur Deb

GoPro with wifi. Looks like a toy, can take a hit.

I have some, but I doubt one would get through security. Now, must admit I don’t even have a date or location let alone what the entry rules might be. The way I do things is inside the rules just to complicate matters for those that might object. I expect Trump rally entry screening to ramp up btw.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:48:38pm

re: #521 Great White Snark

I have some, but I doubt one would get through security. Now, must admit I don’t even have a date or location let alone what the entry rules might be. The way I do things is inside the rules just to complicate matters for those that might object. I expect Trump rally entry screening to ramp up btw.

Put a Hello Kitty strap on it.

523
TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 6:50:25pm

re: #441 freetoken

But the Germans had a case (sort of, kind of) about how bad the treaty was, and even we (the US) didn’t like it because it was onerous.

This is a different situation today.

In the last episode of The First World War that dealt with the end of WWI and the Treaty of Versailles, it was said that while Wilson went into the armistice/treaty process with “his sense of fair play” and was willing to work with Germany, he gave in to the sentiment that America had to be repaid for its war loans to Britain and France and that Germany had to answer for the manner by which it had prosecuted the war.

The First World War: War Without End (2003)- Part 10 of 10

The First World War is a damn good documentary miniseries; I highly recommend it. This part of narration, near the end of the episode, sums up WWI’s ultimate legacy:

“Its terrible message was that war can effect change. That war can fulfill ambitions. That war can work.”

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Shimshon  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:17:42pm

If this spokesman had no problem with Breitbart before, or working for the known criminal arsonist Daryl Issa, then what really went down here? Did he finally grow a conscience?


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