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Kurt Bardella resigned today as official spokesman for Breitbart “News,” in protest over the way Breitbart’s editors were undercutting their own reporter Michelle Fields by suggesting her story of being assaulted by Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski was not true.

Tonight Bardella told CNN’s Don Lemon that the right wing site is not being honest about the story because they’re heavily invested in promoting Donald Trump — a bias that’s clearly evident to anyone who reads their non-stop sycophantic coverage of Trump’s campaign.

Lemon asked Bardella directly if Breitbart was “lying,” and Bardella responded simply, “Yes.”

Don Lemon was clearly taken aback by such an honest, direct statement. And Bardella wasn’t finished; he went on to say Donald Trump is a “destructive force in the political and public rhetoric,” and makes him “embarrassed to say I’m a Republican.”

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:46:29pm

re: #214 Dark_Falcon

he has to give the left the greater party of the blame.

This is exactly how you end up with Donald Trump supporters.

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TedStriker  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:46:52pm
Bardella went on to say Donald Trump is a “destructive force in the political and public rhetoric,” and makes him “embarrassed to say I’m a Republican.”

Coming from someone who has worked for Darrell Issa, this says a lot.

What it says, I have no fucking clue.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:47:22pm

I’m confused: Is Bardella saying that Fields lied about having been assaulted, or has Breitbart turned on their own reporter?

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:47:50pm

re: #1 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

Wrong thread.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:48:59pm

Also posted downstairs

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austin_blue  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:57:20pm

Apparently, the fact that Trump supporters are going full moron has gotten the attention of the Trump optics team.

Imagine that. They are only about two weeks behind the facts.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 11, 2016 • 9:58:08pm

re: #2 TedStriker

Coming from someone who has worked for Darrell Issa, this says a lot.

He worked for Issa who contributed greatly to the cesspool that spawned trump

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:00:12pm

And yet the crime rate falls and the suds sales rise.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:01:05pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

I’m confused: Is Bardella saying that Fields lied about having been assaulted, or has Breitbart turned on their own reporter?

Breitbart has been openly gaslighting their own reporter because she made Trump look bad. That’s why Bardella quit. It turned out he has some ethics after all.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:01:23pm
Bardella went on to say Donald Trump is a “destructive force in the political and public rhetoric,” and makes him “embarrassed to say I’m a Republican.”

Everybody should be embarrassed to say they’re a Republican. The modern GOP is little more than a militaristic street gang demanding lifetime membership and reflexive obedience. The fact that Bardella, as a minority, voluntarily became a token enabler of the white nationalist movement that has so thoroughly infected Breitbart and the GOP should be an everlasting source of shame for the guy. He’s desperately swimming away from a sinking ship that he had to have known has been rotten and taking on water for years.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:01:55pm

re: #6 austin_blue

Apparently, the fact that Trump supporters are going full moron have gotten the attention of the Trump optics team.

Imagine that. They are only about two weeks behind the facts.

Lots of delegates being gathered up Tuesday, and the campaign is probably concerned that can’t get good enough polling done to decide of what rhetoric to use on Sunday

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:02:04pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

This to eleventy!

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Alyosha  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:04:15pm

Wut…

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austin_blue  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:05:27pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Everybody should be embarrassed to say they’re a Republican. The modern GOP is little more than a militaristic street gang demanding lifetime membership and reflexive obedience. The fact that Bardella, as a minority, voluntarily became a token enabler of the white nationalist movement that has so thoroughly infected Breitbart and the GOP should be an everlasting source of shame for the guy. He’s desperately swimming away from a sinking ship that he had to have known has been rotten and taking on water for years.

That’s a hull of an indictment!

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:05:28pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

I’m confused: Is Bardella saying that Fields lied about having been assaulted, or has Breitbart turned on their own reporter?

He said, very clearly, that Breitbart as an organization is lying.

He’s right. They’re so intent on propping up a fascist candidate that they’re willing to trash their own reporter to do so.

Yay team.

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Alyosha  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:06:32pm

They need to be tested for prion infection, I swear.

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teleskiguy  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:07:21pm

I’ll give Bardella credit, he said on CNN that the whole thing stinks like yesterday’s diapers.

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teleskiguy  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:09:24pm

Bardella wouldn’t call himself a “conservative.” Just a “Republican.”

Huh? Keep searching that soul, brother.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:09:46pm

See you later alligators

“We run opposition research on ourselves—the more bad stuff that comes out, the better we do.”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:13:32pm
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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:21:58pm

re: #10 goddamnedfrank

Donald Trump cannot be the scapegoat sent out of city walls bearing the sins of all the occupants.

Nothing he says or does is new. He’s using the same scripts we’ve seen since 2007, and the same tropes that have been floating about since the Dixiecrats. His entire arrogant, bullying shtick is what people like Rush Limbaugh and the various Shouty Men of Fox have done for decades: yelling, condescension, and belittlement. His anti-establishment posture is just Alex Jones put in a Vitamix with the various excretions of Breitbart and Drudge.

Motherfucking Birthers. If you want a synedoche for all this shit, there it is. Birtherism—the offal that made it to the floor of the Congress.

Politics is a subset of culture…who built the culture Donald Trump is tapping into? Who benefited before Trump?

The minute Donald Trump fails, the GOP will woo his audience back. And they’ll do it by explaining how their policy will enact the “I deserve shit, everybody else is a thief that deserves suffering” platform of Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:22:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:27:47pm
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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:28:07pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:28:15pm

This cat is gangster.

GoPro: Didga the Dog-Surfing Cat

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:29:08pm

re: #9 Lidane

re: #15 makeitstop

Thank you both for the clarification. If I were MSNBC, I’d make Ms. Fields a semi-generous offer of employment just about now. In reality, I expect MSNBC will not want to ‘tilt left’ in such a way (though that’s what their core audience would like) and it will be CNN that scoops her up.

Which is to say that it will be like picking up free agents in the NFL, with CNN as the Green Bay Packers and MSNBC as the Chicago Bears.

/I’m a Bears fan, but their front office’s actions in drafts and free agency are mostly brain-dead.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:32:08pm
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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:34:47pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Thank you both for the clarification. If I were MSNBC, I’d make Ms. Fields a semi-generous offer of employment just about now. In reality, I expect MSNBC will not want to ‘tilt left’ in such a way (though that’s what their core audience would like) and it will be CNN that scoops her up.

Which is to say that it will be like picking up free agents in the NFL, with CNN as the Green Bay Packers and MSNBC as the Chicago Bears.

/I’m a Bears fan, but their front office’s actions in drafts and free agency are mostly brain-dead.

Fields works for Breitbart. In no way, shape or form would hiring her be ‘tilting left.’

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:35:29pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

Also using GoPro, but even cooler is this Iraqi-manned, US-built M1A1 Abrams giving Daesh holdouts in Ramadi a hammering:

GoPro Mounted On Iraqi Abrams Tank During Operation

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:36:57pm

re: #28 makeitstop

Fields works for Breitbart. In no way, shape or form would hiring her be ‘tilting left.’

I was saying how the people who others here say seem to be transitioning MSNBC might see things, not how things really are.

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:37:10pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Thank you both for the clarification. If I were MSNBC, I’d make Ms. Fields a semi-generous offer of employment just about now. In reality, I expect MSNBC will not want to ‘tilt left’ in such a way (though that’s what their core audience would like) and it will be CNN that scoops her up.

Which is to say that it will be like picking up free agents in the NFL, with CNN as the Green Bay Packers and MSNBC as the Chicago Bears.

/I’m a Bears fan, but their front office’s actions in drafts and free agency are mostly brain-dead.

She already has a gig on Fox. And why would MSNBC or CNN fight over a Breitbart reporter? (And how would hiring a Breitbrat be “tilting left?”)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:39:26pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Thank you both for the clarification. If I were MSNBC, I’d make Ms. Fields a semi-generous offer of employment just about now. In reality, I expect MSNBC will not want to ‘tilt left’ in such a way (though that’s what their core audience would like) and it will be CNN that scoops her up.

Which is to say that it will be like picking up free agents in the NFL, with CNN as the Green Bay Packers and MSNBC as the Chicago Bears.

/I’m a Bears fan, but their front office’s actions in drafts and free agency are mostly brain-dead.

So dumb. She’s still just another more than willing cog in the Breitbart racism factory, nothing about that has changed.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:40:08pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

This cat is gangster.

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Video

That cat still has work to do…

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:41:34pm

re: #31 BeachDem

She already has a gig on Fox. And why would MSNBC or CNN fight over a Breitbart reporter? (And how would hiring a Breitbrat be “tilting left?”)

That bolded part I did not know. I wonder how she’ll fare at Fox, given that it looks like she’s going to get the full-on Gamergate treatment.

And no, I don’t think Michelle Fields getting attacked horrifically by internet haters is fun or funny. I think its sick and depraved.

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Lidane  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:42:31pm

Wheee!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:44:49pm

re: #35 Lidane

Wheee!

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That was back in January. Same reporter was apparently detained by police tonight.

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:46:23pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

That bolded part I did not know. I wonder how she’ll fare at Fox, given that it looks like she’s going to get the full-on Gamergate treatment.

And no, I don’t think Michelle Fields getting attacked horrifically by internet haters is fun or funny. I think its sick and depraved.

Not sure if she’s still there (as I wouldn’t watch Fox if I were paid to do it) but she was last year.

Michelle Fields gained notoriety by offending Matt Damon and mostly all educators in this interview. So of course, Fox ‘News’ scooped her up for her wisdom and insight. Why not ask this genius what she thinks about Social Security? After the crazy talk during Thursday night’s Fox News GOP Debate, the Cashin’ In crew decided to tackle the nontroversy. But one emerged as the craziest of the crazy.

crooksandliars.com

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BeachDem  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:52:58pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

That bolded part I did not know. I wonder how she’ll fare at Fox, given that it looks like she’s going to get the full-on Gamergate treatment.

And no, I don’t think Michelle Fields getting attacked horrifically by internet haters is fun or funny. I think its sick and depraved.

Also, other than Rage Furby (a given) and her employer (it’s Breitbart, so…), who is attacking her horrifically on the internet?

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:53:23pm

re: #9 Lidane

Breitbart has been openly gaslighting their own reporter because she made Trump look bad.

They never denied any aspect of what she herself had witnessed. They contradicted her opinion about the identity of the perpetrator which was based on Ben Terris’ observations, not on her own. I don’t see how that amounts to gaslighting.

Their aim was obviously to minimize the impact on the Trump campaign while not attacking their own reporter.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:53:31pm

200 hours of community service, two-year probation, pay restitution for medical bills not covered by insurance — estimated at $4,870 — attend high school every day, attend anger management/cultural awareness/substance abuse counseling .

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:54:31pm
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Alyosha  Mar 11, 2016 • 10:57:10pm

Both sides do it!

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:01:16pm

re: #38 BeachDem

Lots of folks are insulting her and discounting her claim out of hand. Her boyfriend is also getting insulted and accused of falsehood.

Trump has accumulated a following of alt-righters that are in varying degrees white supremacists, MRA, and neoreactionary. And participants in all of those cliques are big fans of Twitter harassment.

The dismissal of Field and Weinstein fall into a predictable set of counteraccusations:

- bitches be lying
- Jewish boyfriend is lying (because his name is Weinstein)
- you deserved it because journalists are cultural Marxists.
- you deserved it because you’re a crypto-liberal trying to ruin Trump
- politically correct agenda
- et cetera.

I don’t like Fields, or her work, and I don’t feel much goodwill for her so long as she tows the same ugly lines under different mastheads. But the insane sexist, racist shit is horrible…it’s just a shame that she works for organizations that condone slightly different kinds of sexist, racist shit.

eta: And, of course, Breitbart commenters are raining shit on her.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:02:19pm

re: #39 Nyet

They never denied any aspect of what she herself had witnessed. They contradicted her opinion about the identity of the perpetrator which was based on Ben Terris’ observations, not on her own. I don’t see how that amounts to gaslighting.

Their aim was obviously to minimize the impact on the Trump campaign while not attacking their own reporter.

Well it wasn’t so obvious to Bardella, who had a ring side seat to Breitbart management’s internal dialog and flat out said tonight on CNN that they are lying. What he thinks they’re lying about is a bit nebulous and it’s possible that he doesn’t think they’re attacking Fields, but I’d hesitate to call anything about the situation “obvious” at this juncture. He did say he didn’t think they were adequately supporting her, disagreed with how they were treating her, that he thought they were looking for a reason to disprove the story, etc.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:02:56pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

I’m confused: Is Bardella saying that Fields lied about having been assaulted, or has Breitbart turned on their own reporter?

Lemon asked Bardella directly if Breitbart was “lying,” and Bardella responded simply, “Yes.”

What room is there here for confusion?

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Shimshon  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:04:18pm

And you know this spokesman has integrity because he worked for the honest Darrell Issa!

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:06:05pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Well it wasn’t so obvious to Bardella who had a ring side seat to Breitbart management’s internal dialog and flat out said tonight on CNN that they are lying. What he thinks they’re lying about is a bit nebulous and it’s possible that he doesn’t think they’re attacking Fields, but I’d hesitate to call anything about the situation “obvious” at this juncture. He did say he didn’t think they were adequately supporting her, disagreed with how they were treating her, that he thought they were looking for a reason to disprove the story, etc.

I frankly couldn’t care less about an assessment of a Breitbart persona, current or former. They’re delusional in things good and bad.

It is quite possible that there was more in the internal discussions than we know, but we can judge the output, and there was neither sliming, nor gaslighting of Fields in the output. That much is obvious.

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teleskiguy  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:31:53pm
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Alyosha  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:37:16pm

Gah!

Deleted.

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No Country For Old Haters  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:38:12pm

re: #49 Alyosha

In other news…
Whoa…

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fake.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:39:20pm

re: #49 Alyosha

Should never have been granted…

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:39:38pm

re: #50 No Country For Old Haters

fake.

Ah yes. .co

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:40:51pm

re: #49 Alyosha

That would appear to be a “joke” site that has gone the extra step of having a name and logo that might make one think is was a major news source.

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Alyosha  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:42:37pm

How embarrassing.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:43:21pm

As a religion, Scientology is no more absurd than Christianity, Islam or Judaism.

As an organization, the Church of Scientology acts in bad faith, has an extensive criminal history in recent past and is basically a money-making operation.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:45:44pm

That said, religion should not be granted tax-exempted status at all.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:49:56pm

re: #54 Alyosha

It happens.

And those sites are basically built around the way that virality incorporates speedy perusal and rapid linking. To get “caught” by one just requires that your attention wavers for a second, so you’re a touch less skeptical. And they do enough to make the premise almost plausible, and the format news-like, so that your heuristic habits as a browser kick in.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:51:06pm

IRS has a “Racially Nondiscriminatory Requirement for Schools” as a part of their tax-exempt status. Question: why stop at race?

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:52:04pm

re: #56 Nyet

You only say that since you haven’t been to the Temple of Hookers and Blackjack.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2016 • 11:57:41pm

re: #59 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

You only say that since you haven’t been to the Temple of Hookers and Blackjack.

I remember the 1970’s Blow reformation.

Good times.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:04:12am

Apparently there’s an interesting documentary about Weiner’s misadventures.

vulture.com

But I can’t find a trailer.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:07:21am

re: #61 Nyet

traileraddict.com

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:16:04am
The moment, with Abedin present, when Weiner finds out that there’s breaking news about him having sent additional, more explicit sexts after he resigned from Congress — a revelation that also means he lied about when the sexting stopped and how many women he’d been in contact with. “FUUUUUCCCKK. Fuck me,” he says, before asking staffers — but not Kriegman — to go on the other side of the door. “Do you know the timing of this?” he asks Abedin, who doesn’t seem surprised. She responds, “It’s when you and I were talking about getting separated.”
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nkdee  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:21:45am

I think that the convention in Cleveland just got more interesting.

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Kragar  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:22:54am

re: #64 nkdee

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:30:44am

re: #58 Nyet

IRS has a “Racially Nondiscriminatory Requirement for Schools” as a part of their tax-exempt status. Question: why stop at race?

Barnard , Bryn Mawr , Mount Holyoke , Radcliffe, Smith, Vassar , Wellesley.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:35:16am

re: #66 Decatur Deb

No discriminating institutions should be tax-exempt, whether on basis of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. You want to discriminate, fine, just not on the state’s dime.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:45:36am

re: #67 Nyet

No discriminating institutions should be tax-exempt, whether on basis of race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation. You want to discriminate, fine, just not on the state’s dime.

Why do you hate the Girl Scouts and their delicious Samoas?

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:47:06am

re: #68 Decatur Deb

I don’t hate girl scouts.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:49:09am

re: #69 Nyet

I don’t hate girl scouts.

Tax exempt, gender-discriminating.

scoutingweb.com

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:50:16am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Tax exempt, gender-discriminating.

scoutingweb.com

See #67.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:52:02am

Having been an adult leader for both Boy (Cub) and Girl Scouts, I’ve often thought a holistic family-oriented outdoors/skills organization would be preferable.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:53:11am

re: #72 Decatur Deb

Having been an adult leader for both Boy (Cub) and Girl Scouts, I’ve often thought a holistic family-oriented outdoors/skills organization would be preferable.

The Pioneers in the Soviet Union were just Pioneers - not “boy Pioneers” or “girl Pioneers”. Nothing prevents there being just scouts.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:55:23am

re: #59 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

You only say that since you haven’t been to the Temple of Hookers and Blackjack.

I heard there was a schism about the blackjack part, and the offshoot only has the hookers.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:56:14am

re: #74 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I heard there was a schism about the blackjack part, and the offshoot only has the hookers.

“On second thought, forget the temple and blackjack.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:57:33am

re: #71 Nyet

See #67.

You can make a theoretical case for that, but would have several lifetimes of work to untangle all forms of discrimination from our institutions. Even my Franciscan seminary got certain breaks for taking up a bit of the nation’s education task. (I particularly liked their preference at getting Army surplus goodies for the Physics lab.)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:58:13am

re: #73 Nyet

The Pioneers in the Soviet Union were just Pioneers - not “boy Pioneers” or “girl Pioneers”. Nothing prevents there being just scouts.

Jeez. Next you’ll be advocating dogs and cats living together in harmony.

//

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:58:49am

re: #77 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Jeez. Next you’ll be advocating dogs and cats living together in harmony.

//

That’s devil talk.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:58:58am

re: #73 Nyet

The Pioneers in the Soviet Union were just Pioneers - not “boy Pioneers” or “girl Pioneers”. Nothing prevents there being just scouts.

Was thinking that, but don’t see it as a great model for support in the Alabama legislature.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:59:37am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Was thinking that, but don’t see it as a great model for support in the Alabama legislature.

Too bad.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:00:29am

re: #76 Decatur Deb

You can make a theoretical case for that, but would have several lifetimes of work to untangle all forms of discrimination from our institutions. Even my Franciscan seminary got certain breaks for taking up a bit of the nation’s education task. (I particularly liked their preference at getting Army surplus goodies for the Physics lab.)

Speaking of physics, the teacher in me appreciated the tank video above for the demonstration of recoil force. When you consider the mass of the tank, that recoil is pretty impressive.

I can only imagine how it feels when you’re inside the tank.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:01:32am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Was thinking that, but don’t see it as a great model for support in the Alabama legislature.

They’ll debate the camping trip latrine arrangements alone for days

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:01:32am

re: #80 Nyet

Too bad.

You go to the culture wars with the memes you have, not the memes you might want.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:02:44am

re: #82 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

They’ll debate the camping trip latrine arrangements alone for days

Separate but equal straddle trenches.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:03:47am

re: #83 Decatur Deb

You go to the culture wars with the memes you have, not the memes you might want.

This thinking is why you still don’t have ERA. Something always comes up.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:06:15am

re: #85 Nyet

This thinking is why you still don’t have ERA. Something always comes up.

Don’t have it in mind, but the ’70s ERA probably was not broad enough for the XXIst Cent.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:07:22am

re: #73 Nyet

The Pioneers in the Soviet Union were just Pioneers - not “boy Pioneers” or “girl Pioneers”. Nothing prevents there being just scouts.

It’s the same here in China. Young Pioneers get to wear a bright red scarf as part of their school uniform, too.

Young Pioneers at Tian’anmen Square (Wikimedia Commons)
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:08:56am

re: #84 Decatur Deb

Separate but equal straddle trenches.

On opposite sides of the campground, with 8’ foot tall privacy fences.

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William Lewis  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:10:02am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Mellow recoil. Look for M-551 Sheridan on YouTube sometime. That 152mm had serious recoil on that little tank!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:12:08am

re: #87 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s the same here in China. Young Pioneers get to wear a bright red scarf as part of their school uniform, too.

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I remember a documentary that showed the world’s cutest, most squared-away Pioneer girl, about 10 years old, guarding Lenin’s tomb (or perhaps the Stalingrad Motherland monument). She was fully kitted out with hair ribbons and a vintage sub-machine gun, marched to Old Guard standards.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:12:57am

re: #87 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ideology aside, the Pioneers were quite successful as an org at what they did.

If the Scouts can’t keep up with the times and want to stick with gender segregation, so much worse for the Scouts. Evolve or get out of the way. At any rate they should not be used by liberals as an excuse for inconsistencies/hypocrisies of the legal system.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:14:09am

re: #91 Nyet

Ideology aside, the Pioneers were quite successful as an org at what they did.

If the Scouts can’t keep up with the times and want to stick with gender segregation, so much worse for the Scouts. Evolve or get out of the way. At any rate they should not be used by liberals as an excuse for inconsistencies/hypocrisies of the legal system.

Pick every fight, lose every battle.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:15:12am

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Pick every fight, lose every battle.

edition.cnn.com

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:16:56am

re: #93 Nyet

edition.cnn.com

My Cub pack and I had a Don’t Ask-Don’t Tell policy for agnosticsm. I would still need it.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:20:51am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

Hence the first point about religion.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:24:31am

re: #95 Nyet

Hence the first point about religion.

I am too old for theoretical struggles. Right now I only want to make sure Trump loses Florida in the general. The bullshit we saw last night will make that less likely.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:25:05am

re: #91 Nyet

Ideology aside, the Pioneers were quite successful as an org at what they did.

If the Scouts can’t keep up with the times and want to stick with gender segregation, so much worse for the Scouts. Evolve or get out of the way. At any rate they should not be used by liberals as an excuse for inconsistencies/hypocrisies of the legal system.

The GSA is more progressive than the BSA in regards to LGBT matters. For whatever reason, the Girl Scouts are keeping up with the 21st century better than the Boy Scouts, who are hanging on to 1950s traditions for dear life.

The BSA also still has a paramilitary feel to it (although that may depend on the Scout leader’s proclivities), while the GSA never did.

My stepson’s scout leader was a former Navy man. He taught them knots.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:27:29am

re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The GSA is more progressive than the BSA in regards to LGBT matters. For whatever reason, the Girl Scouts are keeping up with the 21st century better than the Boy Scouts, who are hanging on to 1950s traditions for dear life.

The BSA also still has a paramilitary feel to it (although that may depend on the Scout leader’s proclivities), while the GSA never did.

My stepson’s scout leader was a former Navy man. He taught them knots.

Scouting was created explicitly to assure a higher standard of cannon fodder.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:02:03am

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Scouting was created explicitly to assure a higher standard of cannon fodder.

Originally, for King and country (or was it Queen and country?).

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:04:04am

re: #99 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Originally, for King and country (or was it Queen and country?).

Victoria, then.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:06:01am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

Victoria, then.

Indeed.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:16:39am

re: #20 goddamnedfrank

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Except running the RNC is a money train. I could not find the chair’s salary but have seen this kind of stuff in the last few days:

When Michael S. Steele took over as chairman of the Republican National Committee earlier this year, he brought along longtime personal assistant Belinda Cook and gave her a salary nearly three times what her predecessor made.

Mrs. Cook’s son, Lee, also landed an RNC job.

Mr. Steele hired another family friend, Angela Sailor, to be the party’s outreach director at a salary of $180,000, more than double her predecessor’s compensation, though new responsibilities have been added to the job, according to a high-ranking RNC official and Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings.

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SirMixALot  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:31:45am

re: #2 TedStriker

Coming from someone who has worked for Darrell Issa, this says a lot.

What it says, I have no fucking clue.

I think it says that even “some” Republicans have met their limit of tolerance. It of course took someone he knows to be hurt by the Trump rally violence for him to come out against Trump. It sadly wasn’t enough tor the Brietbart editors or their readers to wake up.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:33:46am

Here is a good back and forth on the subject:
Why don’t churches pay taxes?

One quote:

government at the local, state and federal level made a decision early in our history to grant tax exemptions to churches and other bodies. The Constitution does not mandate it; and indeed, even the decision you cite — the Walz case — doesn’t say that tax exemptions are required by the 1st Amendment.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:36:27am

From Stanislaw Lem’s Star Diaries:

Here the Dominican priest wiped a tear from his eye with the sleeve of his frock.
“In this propitious atmosphere Father Oribazy, never flagging, preached the tenets of the faith both day and night. He related to the Gnelts the history of the Old and New Testaments, the Apocalypse and the Epistles, then passed to the lives of the saints; he put particular fervor into the exalting of the Lord’s martyrs. Poor man … that had always been his weakness…”
Mastering his emotions, Father Lacymon continued in a trembling voice:

Click to Reveal

“And so he spoke to them of Saint John, who attained everlasting glory when they boiled him alive in oil, and of Saint Agnes, who let her head be severed for the faith, and of Saint Sebastian, pierced with many arrows and suffering grievous torments, for which he was greeted in Heaven by angels singing, and of the infant saints quartered, smothered, broken on the wheel and roasted over a slow fire. All these agonies they accepted with joy, secure in the knowledge that they were thereby winning for themselves a place at the right hand of the Lord of Hosts. And as he told them many similar lives, all worthy of emulation, the Gnelts, listening intently to his words, began to exchange significant looks, and the largest among them timidly spoke up:
—O reverend priest of ours, teacher and venerable father, tell us please, if you would but deign to lower yourself to your most lowly servants, does the soul of anyone willing to be martyred enter Heaven?
—Assuredly so, my son!—replied Father Oribazy.
—Yes? That is very good…—said the Gnelt slowly.—And you, O father confessor, do you too wish to enter Heaven?
—To enter Heaven is my fondest hope, my son.
—And to become a saint?—the large Gnelt asked further.
—O worthy son, who is there who would not wish to become one, but such high honor is hardly for the likes of a sinner like myself; one must put forth all one’s strength and strive unceasingly and in the greatest humility, if one would enter on that path…
—Then you do wish to be a saint?—repeated the Gnelt to make sure, casting an affirmative look at his comrades, who inconspicuously rose from their seats.
—Naturally, my son.
—Well, then we will help you!
—And how will you do that, dear lambs?—asked Father Oribazy with a smile, for he was gladdened by the simple zeal of his faithful flock.
“In answer the Gnelts gently but firmly took him by the arms and said:
—In the way, dear Father, that you have just now taught us!
“Whereupon they pulled the skin from his back and rubbed the place with tar, as the executioner of Ireland did to Saint Hyacinth, then they chopped off his left leg, as the heathens did to Saint Pafnuce, after which they ripped open his stomach and put inside a clump of straw, as it happened to the blessed Elizabeth of Normandy, and next they impaled him, as the Emalkites Saint Hugo, and broke his ribs, as the Tyracusans Saint Henry of Padua, and roasted him over a slow fire, as the Burgundians the Maid of Orleans. Then finally they stepped back, washed their hands and began shedding bitter tears for their lost shepherd. This was precisely how I found them, for in making the rounds of all the stars in my diocese I dropped in on their parish. When I heard what had transpired, my hair stood on end. Wringing my hands, I cried:
—Shameless criminals! Hell itself is not enough for you! Are you aware that you have damned your souls for all eternity?!
—Yes—they sobbed—we are aware of this!
“That largest Gnelt rose up and spoke to me thus:
—Reverend Father, we are well aware that we shall all be damned and tormented till the end of time, and we had to struggle mightily in our hearts before we took this resolve, but Father Oribazy told us repeatedly that there was nothing a good Christian would not do for his neighbor, that one should give up everything for him and be prepared to make any sacrifice; and so with the greatest despair we relinquished our salvation, thinking only of our dear Father Oribazy, that he would gain a martyr’s crown and sainthood. I cannot tell you how difficult this was for us, for before Father Oribazy’s arrival here not one of us would have harmed a flea. Therefore we renewed our entreaties, we begged him on our knees to ease, to reduce a little the severity of the faith’s commands, but he categorically maintained that for one’s fellow man one should do everything, without exception. We were no longer able, then, to deny him. We reasoned, moreover, that we were beings of little significance and worth beside this pious man, that he deserved the greatest self-denial on our part. Also we fervently believe that our act was successful and that Father Oribazy now dwells in Heaven. Here you have, reverend Father, the sack with the money we collected for the canonization proceedings, as is required, Father Oribazy explained all that to us when asked. I must say that we used only his favorite tortures, those that he expounded to us with the most enthusiasm. We assumed that they would please him, and yet he resisted, in particular he disliked swallowing the molten lead. However we refused even to consider the possibility that that priest would tell us one thing and think another. The scream he uttered was only proof of the discontent of the lower, physical parts of his person and we ignored it, in keeping with the teaching that one must mortify the flesh so that the spirit may soar higher. To sustain him, we reminded him of the principles he had preached to us, to which Father Oribazy answered with but a single word, a a word totally obscure and incomprehensible; we have no idea what it might mean, for we found it neither in the prayerbooks he had given us, nor in the Holy Scriptures.”

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:44:52am

re: #104 Ming5000

Wow, the first guy’s “logic”… I can’t even

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Danack  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:48:41am

The people at FreeRepublic seem unclear on the point of the first amendment.

American citizens & voters….beware your First Amendment rights at in both grave peril and danger of being denied. The “Freedom of Speech & the right to assemble peacefully was ruthlessly denied last night in the city of Chicago, by anarchists from, Black Lives Matter, movon.org, Illegal Hispanic thugs & Democrat, Bernie Sanders supporters, enmasse.

Those people protesting are totally against free speech. /s

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:50:54am

re: #106 Nyet

Wow, the first guy’s “logic”… I can’t even

Erik Stanley is senior legal counsel and head of the Pulpit Initiative for the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal alliance of Christian attorneys and like-minded organizations defending the right of people to freely live out their faith.

at the expense of others’ faiths.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:51:53am

So long as the churches are good handmaidens of the State, why should they not receive their hire?

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:51:56am

So I saw that woman doing the See Kyle salute in the last thread. Proudly. Openly.
edited. deleted. spurious

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:52:21am

re: #107 Danack

The people at FreeRepublic seem unclear on the point of the first amendment.

Those people protesting are totally against free speech. /s

I’m pretty sure he means moveon.org, unless movon.org is some kind of leftist version of molon labe.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:55:27am

re: #105 Nyet

You just gave me one hell of a good belly laugh.

Thanks.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:55:53am

re: #110 Ming5000

So I saw that woman doing the See Kyle salute in the last thread. Proudly. Openly.

Are Trumpsters inventing a new, less obviously controversial salute? Saw this in the NYT article about the Chicago rally

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The scissors motion in the left hand is kind of weird, like they’re playing an especially aggressive paper-rock-scissors game. But I’m not sure what to make of the guy on the left in a three-piece pinstriped suit and a baseball cap.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:56:50am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

You just gave me one hell of a good belly laugh.

Thanks.

re: #105 Nyet

File under “Be careful what you wish for.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 3:59:33am

re: #110 Ming5000

So I saw that woman doing the See Kyle salute in the last thread. Proudly. Openly.

Are Trumpsters inventing a new, less obviously controversial salute? Saw this in the NYT article about the Chicago rally

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Google Images does not return that as “neo-Nazi salute” or “Trump slaute”. Possibly local, derived from sports team or school, like the Texas Aggies thing?

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:00:10am

re: #113 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The scissors motion in the left hand is kind of weird, like they’re playing an especially aggressive paper-rock-scissors game. But I’m not sure what to make of the guy on the left in a three-piece pinstriped suit and a baseball cap.

Did I get the sides mixed up?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:02:06am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:02:56am

re: #116 Ming5000

Did I get the sides mixed up?

Yes, if that’s not a sarcastic variation on the Trump baseball cap.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:04:10am

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Trump Cancels Cincinnati Rally

“Trump saves money and effort in Cincinnati”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:06:28am

re: #119 Decatur Deb

“Trump saves money and effort in Cincinnati”

Cincinnati. Name’s too long. Not efficient. Hard to say. Sad!

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:08:49am

About religious tax exemptions. In my state of Michigan even parsonages are tax exempt.

Section 7s of the general property tax act, which provides in relevant part “any parsonage owned by a religious society of this state and occupied as a parsonage [is] exempt from taxation….” MCL 211.7s; MSA 7.7(4p).

And , beyond the question of whether that makes sense, people try and game the system.
People sold there home to their “church”, with the provision that the original owner could buy the home back at any time for $1. The tax tribunal:

…conclude that the property does not qualify for the parsonage exemption for the tax years at issue as it was not owned by the Association within the meaning of MCL 211.7s on the relevant tax days.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:10:59am

re: #120 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Cincinnati. Name’s too long. Not efficient. Hard to say. Sad!

I kind of agree with you. If you stare at the word Cincinnati too long you get dizzy.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:11:59am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:18:58am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:22:16am
“In the absence of proof as to who started the fracas, he has to give the left the greater party of the blame”

Right-wing “logic” in a nutshell

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weave  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:24:42am

Redstate knows the real reason for the Trump riots…

SOROS!

redstate.com

If you have been following leftist protest movements over the last couple of decades, and writing about them for the last 12 years like I have, you know there is virtually no doubt that this protest was organized and funded, and part of the funding went to paying people to be there.

These groups want violence, they want unrest, and they take their opportunity to get it. And invariably the money can be traced back to Soros and Move On and World Can’t Wait and a dozen other groups that would make your skin crawl. Whatever statements they put out about the events of last night, expect them to be riddled with falsehoods.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:28:53am

re: #126 weave

Redstate knows the real reason for the Trump riots…

SOROS!

redstate.com

If Soros is involved, I hope he continues to fund these freedom fighters/protesters.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:29:46am

re: #126 weave

Whatever statements they put out about the events of last night, expect them to be riddled with falsehoods.

Unlike the right wing groups, who always tell the Truth™!

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:30:45am

re: #126 weave

virtually no doubt that this protest was organized and funded, and part of the funding went to paying people to be there.

Any evidence? Proof? Over 12 years there must be some slippage in the wall of secrecy!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:30:56am

re: #127 Dr. Matt

If Soros is involved, I hope he continues to fund these freedom fighters/protesters.

If Soros is funding them, why is MoveOn constantly after me for lunch money?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:33:42am

It really is a LOL moment watching conservatives whine about protestors:

Apparently they have forgotten about the teabag townhall shitshows, the Glenn Beck whinefests, the teabag party DC protest after protest after protest, and the Politicians, reporters, and teahadists heckling the POTUS during his talks…..should I go on?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:38:18am

re: #131 Dr. Matt

It really is a LOL moment watching conservatives whine about protestors:

Apparently they have forgotten about the teabag townhall shitshows, the Glenn Beck whinefests, the teabag party DC protest after protest after protest, and the Politicians, reporters, and teahadists heckling the POTUS during his talks…..should I go on?

But that’s different! Those were protests against the usurper in the White House!!

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:40:30am

Trump didn’t cancel the rally because of recommendations of the Chicago PD. He canceled because the protestors/free fighters were going to make him look bad on TV.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:40:46am

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

But that’s different! Those were protests against the usurper in the White House!!

It’s common sense people!

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:45:12am

Montel Williams just retweeted me. :)

Now I have to active autoblock

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Brian J.  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:53:27am

Hillary just added another two net delegates to her lead by winning the Northern Marianas caucus.

abcnews.go.com

The margin was 102 to 65, meaning that Bernie could have won another delegate to stay even if he’d convinced five of Hillary’s voters to switch. For want of a nail…

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 4:57:33am

Since it is a slow morning.
Has everyone seen that face swap app? This is a variation on that.

The girls are laughing their asses off. Funny
Video

Edited by request:
Warning: You will see a nipple
You should not be watching videos at work.
There is nothing wrong with a nipple. Male or female.

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Danack  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:03:07am

re: #137 Ming5000

Since it is a slow morning.
Has everyone seen that face swap app? This is a variation on that.

Some people probably need a NSFW tag. Because of nipple.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:07:21am

re: #138 Danack

good point. fixed

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:10:50am

re: #137 Ming5000

Since it is a slow morning.
Has everyone seen that face swap app? This is a variation on that.

Embedded Image

The girls are laughing their asses off. Funny
[Embedded content]

Edited by request:
You should not be watching videos at work.
There is nothing wrong with a nipple. Male or female.

One of my friends did this face swap with his 3-year-old son. Dad has a beard, so seeing a 3-year-old with a beard is weird enough, but the resemblance between dad and son was uncanny. It took me a minute to realize their faces were swapped, and not just a kid with a photoshopped beard.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:13:49am

Free The Nipple

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:17:06am

re: #141 Ming5000

Louisville, KY, had a FTN event last year. It was organized by a student at the high school where I used to teach. They walked down Bardstown Road, probably one of the more liberal areas of the city.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:20:40am

re: #142 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Good for her (assume her)! I never thought about FTN before. I guess my forefathers won the right to bare the nipple, so I became oblivious to the plight of others. Typical.

From the article:

Men had the same problem but overcame it
Back in the 1930s, four men were arrested for going topless to Coney Island. Willis writes: “Men fought and they were heard, changing not only laws but social consciousness. And by 1936, men’s bare chests were accepted as the norm.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:21:04am

re: #131 Dr. Matt

It really is a LOL moment watching conservatives whine about protestors:

[Embedded content]

Apparently they have forgotten about the teabag townhall shitshows, the Glenn Beck whinefests, the teabag party DC protest after protest after protest, and the Politicians, reporters, and teahadists heckling the POTUS during his talks…..should I go on?

I remember when we were having our fantasy baseball draft in the Spring of 2010. The Congressman in our league was drafting over the phone because he had to be in Washington for the vote on the ACA, and we could hear the Tea Party protestors over the phone.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:26:30am

re: #144 Big Beautiful Door

I think that incidents of the left decrying protesting, like the Tea Party protests, is rare. The left is more constitutional about it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:33:25am

re: #143 Ming5000

Good for her (assume her)! I never thought about FTN before. I guess my forefathers won the right to bare the nipple, so I became oblivious to the plight of others. Typical.

From the article:

The student was a sheila ;-) and since she was 18 at the time of the march, participated while topless.

My dad graduated high school in ‘33, and had some photos of he and his friends at the beach. The fellas wore tank top-like swimsuits and the girls wore suits with integral skirts that came halfway to their knees.

You can see versions of the girls’ swimsuits — with shorter skirts — here in China, where women are less likely to show a lot of skin, partly for modesty’s sake and mostly to avoid getting tan.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:37:24am

I didn’t realize the Chicago Tribune identified Trump’s Nazi lover

Donald Trump supporter Birgitt Peterson, center, of Yorkville, argues with protesters March 11, 2016, outside the UIC Pavilion after the canceled rally for the Republican presidential candidate.
Full size pic here: trbimg.com

Can anyone identify the buttons she’s wearing? Do they look familiar?

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:45:43am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

I got one:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:46:06am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

The middle one is a 2004 Bush-Cheney button Image: bushcheney.jpg

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:47:00am

re: #148 Ming5000

Good one! I thought it was Ronnie, but I was looking for a campaign button.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:50:22am

re: #148 Ming5000

re: #149 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Damn. You two are awesome.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:50:44am

re: #150 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Thanks! The one in the upper right will be a challenge

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:51:37am

re: #152 Ming5000

Thanks! The one in the upper right will be a challenge

I think it’s a cat????

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:52:08am

re: #152 Ming5000

Thanks! The one in the upper right will be a challenge

Ditto. I have no idea what it’s showing. It looks like some weird animal.

Cthulhu? Probably not. :D

155
Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:53:04am

Trumpkins are claiming she’s a Bernie plant.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:54:20am

re: #151 Dr. Matt

Damn. You two are awesome.

Too much awesome for me this early in the morning before coffee.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:54:47am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

Trumpkins are claiming she’s a Bernie plant.

Doubtful. I found an article in the Trib about her from 2000. She’s a Tea Party organizer.
articles.chicagotribune.com

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 5:57:04am

Good Dog….

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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:02:28am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:03:14am

Marco is losing it

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:03:30am

re: #158 Dr. Matt

Liberal plant! Soros!

Doesn’t look like the same person. Close, but not clear if the same.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:04:42am

re: #159 Dave In Austin

Man-boy Marco Rubio just spent 10 minutes eviscerating Trump, and then said he would still support the GOP nominee. SMH

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:06:01am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Man-boy Marco Rubio just spent 10 minutes eviscerating Trump, and then said he would still support the GOP nominee. SMH

Politics makes strange bedfellows.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:13:28am

Besides #SOROS!!!11!!

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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:23:21am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:26:35am

Your Hollywood movie star stupid quote of the month, via the NY Times.

Germs don’t work that way, Gwyn. But enjoy the sauna!
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:27:27am

re: #166 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I swear if you look up the meaning of the word “vapid” in the dictionary, you’ll find her photo.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:29:04am

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

I swear if you look up the meaning of the word “vapid” in the dictionary, you’ll find her photo.

Her health advice is just sheer woo-woo thinking. Great actress, but very gullible.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:29:34am

The Donald has just finishing speaking with the entire population of Guam.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:30:03am

re: #168 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Her health advice is just sheer woo-woo thinking. Great actress, but very gullible.

Exactly. Vaginal steaming? Yeesh…..

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:30:51am

Here is the guy she was giving the Nazi salute to: twitter.com

C&L has more: crooksandliars.com

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:31:32am

re: #148 Ming5000

I got one:
Embedded Image

The one above St. Reagan is a Bush Cheney button.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:34:12am

re: #172 makeitstop

The one above St. Reagan is a Bush Cheney button.

We got that. Now how about the one at top right, smarty pants?

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:40:48am

re: #65 Kragar

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Well, that M1 Garand does lack the needed ammo capacity to deal with the Hoard of Urban Youth we know Soros will send against the convention. So our Designated Marksmen will instead carry SR-25s with 80 round C-Mag drum magazines!

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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:41:01am

re: #43 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

Lots of folks are insulting her and discounting her claim out of hand. Her boyfriend is also getting insulted and accused of falsehood.

Trump has accumulated a following of alt-righters that are in varying degrees white supremacists, MRA, and neoreactionary. And participants in all of those cliques are big fans of Twitter harassment.

The dismissal of Field and Weinstein fall into a predictable set of counteraccusations:

- bitches be lying
- Jewish boyfriend is lying (because his name is Weinstein)
- you deserved it because journalists are cultural Marxists.
- you deserved it because you’re a crypto-liberal trying to ruin Trump
- politically correct agenda
- et cetera.

I don’t like Fields, or her work, and I don’t feel much goodwill for her so long as she tows the same ugly lines under different mastheads. But the insane sexist, racist shit is horrible…it’s just a shame that she works for organizations that condone slightly different kinds of sexist, racist shit.

eta: And, of course, Breitbart commenters are raining shit on her.

Sorry for the delayed response. Thanks for answering. Guess I’m glad I’m not on Twitter and don’t go to Breitbart.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:46:43am

re: #162 Dr. Matt

Man-boy Marco Rubio just spent 10 minutes eviscerating Trump, and then said he would still support the GOP nominee. SMH

Saying he’d support the nominee is again part of confirming he’s loyal to the GOP and not a RINO. Anyone who refuses to support the Republican nominee is going to be considered a Sekrit Clinton Sellout by much of the base and purged as such.

/not kidding

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:51:21am

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

This, by the way, is also why Megan McCain is posting carefully about the cancelled rally and the protests: If she blames Trumps supporters in one tweet without also blaming BLM, then regardless of subsequent posts that one tweet will be used against her father by wingnuts who want to purge him. So John McCain’s daughter can’t really engage in her family’s famous straight talk because it would be used to harm her father’s fortunes.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:53:44am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

This, by the way, is also why Megan McCain is posting carefully about the cancelled rally and the protests: If she blames Trumps supporters in one tweet without also blaming BLM, then regardless of subsequent posts that one tweet will be used against her father by wingnuts who want to purge him. So John McCain’s daughter can’t really engage in her family’s famous straight talk because it would be used to harm her father’s fortunes.

To be honest, McCain is nearing the end of his shelf-life by virtue of his age. He might consider retiring.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:55:42am

re: #155 Dr. Matt

Trumpkins are claiming she’s a Bernie plant.

Some guy named @aleister (his avatar is Charles Lindbergh, I think) was tweeting some nonsense that the Heil Lady is Portia somebody or other, a Bernie supporter. The two ladies look nothing alike.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:57:59am

DimJim, meanwhile, is hammering away at blaming every left-wing organization known to man for the protests at the Trump rally. Must be bucking for a job with The Donald.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:58:05am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

To be honest, McCain is nearing the end of his shelf-life by virtue of his age. He might consider retiring.

He planned to, but he decided against it. In part because he wants to ensure the United States Navy and the rest of DoD gets through its current modernization in good shape, and also because he fears that at present his likely successor would be some crazy wingnut. So he aims to keep his seat in order to make sure that its occupied by a sane person.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:59:44am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

He planned to, but he decided against it. In part because he wants to ensure the United States Navy and the rest of DoD gets through its current modernization in good shape, and also because he fears that at present his likely successor would be some crazy wingnut. So he aims to keep his seat in order to make sure that its occupied by a sane person.

Well, a more sane person, anyways. ;-)

Given the situation in AZ, he may well be right about the crazy wingnut.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:01:33am

re: #180 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

DimJim, meanwhile, is hammering away at blaming every left-wing organization known to man for the protests at the Trump rally. Must be bucking for a job with The Donald.

He won’t get one, since Donald Trump doesn’t hire people whose IQs are exceeded by those of chimpanzees.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:06:31am

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

He won’t get one, since Donald Trump doesn’t hire people whose IQs are exceeded by those of chimpanzees.

Think of who we’re talking about here, though. SMOTI, who may in fact be less intelligent than a chimpanzee.

185
Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:07:08am

What does Jim Hoft do for a living?

186
freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:07:49am

There are 57 Republican delegates available today, in little reported contests. I wonder if they will all end up being “uncommitted”, like the ones from the Virgin Islands on Thursday.

While not a great number, there will be enough of these uncommitted delegates at the GOP convention to works as, effectively, superdelegates, votes to be pushed around as the power players see fit.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:11:30am

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

What does Jim Hoft do for a living?

He pundits. Damned if I know how he manages to get dressed each day, but he’s hit on the surefire way to get clicks — mangle any story to create anti-Obama, anti-liberal slant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:11:45am

re: #177 Dark_Falcon

This, by the way, is also why Megan McCain is posting carefully about the cancelled rally and the protests: If she blames Trumps supporters in one tweet without also blaming BLM, then regardless of subsequent posts that one tweet will be used against her father by wingnuts who want to purge him. So John McCain’s daughter can’t really engage in her family’s famous straight talk because it would be used to harm her father’s fortunes.

Or she could have gone with the more sane option of not saying anything like that.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:15:09am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or she could have gone with the more sane option of not saying anything like that.

Well, she does hate what happened and she wants to shame those who did it. But that shaming has to be done in a certain way to minimize political blowback.

Politics sucks.

190
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:15:20am

(Dunman throwing the argument back at the Trumpsplainers)

191
Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:16:16am

Open Carry meets Free the Nipple!!

Gunz&Titties

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:17:06am

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:19:55am

hmmm

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:20:04am

re: #187 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He pundits. Damned if I know how he manages to get dressed each day, but he’s hit on the surefire way to get clicks — mangle any story to create anti-Obama, anti-liberal slant.

It’s astonishing that he can afford a mortgage, car payments, insurance, etc. just on this one thing.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:20:31am

re: #191 Dave In Austin

Open Carry meets Free the Nipple!!

Gunz&Titties

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:23:44am

re: #173 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

We got that. Now how about the one at top right, smarty pants?

Looks like a cat with Trump hair.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:23:49am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

(Dunman throwing the argument back at the Trumpsplainers)

And missing the point. There is a difference between holding a protest rally and disrupting an opposing rally. Imagine the Pettus Bridge with a couple hundred white supremacists shouting down the marchers from within their ranks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:24:16am

Trump changed the Cincinnati venue

WEST CHESTER, OH (FOX19) -

Donald Trump announced he will ho a campaign rally in West Chester on Sunday.

The announcement comes just one day after the Republican presidential front-runner canceled an event at the Duke Energy Center due to security concerns. Trump also canceled a rally in Chicago on Friday citing the same concerns.

Trump’s campaign will hold the rally at the Savannah Center on Chappell Crossing Blvd at 2 p.m. on Sunday.

fox19.com

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:27:31am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump changed the Cincinnati venue

fox19.com

…now will be speaking at the Marge Schott Center before getting on his plane to attend an event at the Donald Sterling Hall in California…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:31:33am

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

West Chester township is home to the Islamic Center of Greater Cincinnati, which is one of the largest mosques in the area, and Voice of America’s Bethany Relay Station.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:34:37am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

West Chester township is home to the Islamic Center of Greater Cincinnati, which is one of the largest mosques in the area, and Voice of America’s Bethany Relay Station.

And its police best make sure to protect said mosque in order to ensure Trumpkins don’t vandalize it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:35:37am

I go where RWNJs fear to tread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:36:30am

re: #202 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I go where RWNJs fear to tread.

[Embedded content]

All little old white haired ladies look alike…
/////

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:36:51am

Trump live, Ohio:

LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Vandalia, OH (3-12-16) Post Chicago Chaos 10:00AM ET

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nines09  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:39:03am

re: #199 Barefoot Grin

Marge Schott. Marge Schott. Where have I heard that name before….

How fitting.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:40:53am

re: #204 freetoken

I wonder if YouTube had been around in the 1920s and ’30s, whose rallies would have been streamed over the yet-to-be invented Internet.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:43:04am

Security just walked by in front of the mid-crowd… maybe it was SS, don’t know… checking out the crowd….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:43:37am

Because we’ve been wondering what Boehner has been up to lately:

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:43:42am

re: #206 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I wonder if YouTube had been around in the 1920s and ’30s, whose rallies would have been streamed over the yet-to-be invented Internet.

Hitler made it to television.

realclearscience.com

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:44:44am

re: #206 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I wonder if YouTube had been around in the 1920s and ’30s, whose rallies would have been streamed over the yet-to-be invented Internet.

Not FDR’s since he wouldn’t have been president. It would have been impossible for him to practice the image control he needed and so he would have been seen as a “cripple” and hence would have been rendered unelectable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:45:35am
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CarolJ  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:46:05am

Is Boener really cutting his lawn in front of Boenher Palace? Thought that former Speakers of the House hire Jose or a service to do that for him.

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mmmirele  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:46:13am

re: #178 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

To be honest, McCain is nearing the end of his shelf-life by virtue of his age. He might consider retiring.

He’s running for a *sixth* term as senator.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:46:32am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because we’ve been wondering what Boehner has been up to lately:

[Embedded content]

Ah, leave the old man alone. He needs to take pride in his lawn while he can. Once it gets warmer it’ll be impossible to keep the teenagers off of it.

/

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:47:31am

Is that Ode to Joy?

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:47:53am

Still waiting on Trump in Dayton… later will be in Cleveland… and then tonight in Kansas City…

Can I handle three Trump rallies in one day?

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:48:29am

re: #215 Alyosha

Yes, that stream plays the big hits of the classics for their stream music… long dead white guy music.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:48:35am

re: #212 CarolJ

Is Boener really cutting his lawn in front of Boenher Palace? Thought that former Speakers of the House hire Jose or a service to do that for him.

He’s not that busy, and compared to dealing with the likes of Louis Gohmert mowing his lawn has got to seem peaceful and easy for John Boehner. Right now the man’s just enjoying his retirement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:49:02am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:50:01am

My, look at his big hands plane…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:50:15am

re: #216 freetoken

Still waiting on Trump in Dayton… later will be in Cleveland… and then tonight in Kansas City…

Can I handle three Trump rallies in one day?

must be four of them. The West Chester rally (in Butler County, the northern part of Greater Cincinnati) is scheduled for 2 p.m.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:50:31am

re: #215 Alyosha

Is that Ode to Joy?

The piece that made Richard Wagner see himself as the second-greatest composer of all time.

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:50:45am

re: #217 freetoken

Yes, that stream plays the big hits of the classics for their stream music… long dead white guy music.

Gonna actually attempt to watch, just to get a sense of how he’s going to play this.
Whether it was totally a cynical ploy or he’s a bit rattled.

224
freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:50:54am

These airport stops give Trump the protection from the masses he can’t get when in public auditoriums.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:51:02am

Its fun playing with this little game adjusting voter demographics and turn out to see how it effects the electoral college. For Trump to win, it looks like he’ll need a big pro-Trump white turnout in Ohio and Pennsylvania, maybe Wisconsin and/or Michigan, and hope Hispanic turnout remains relatively light, about fifty percent. However, if Trump doesn’t drive a very heavy pro-Trump white turnout, but does generate a heavy anti-Trump Hispanic turnout, states like Arizona and Texas conceivably come into play. I’d also like to think a large portion of my fellow whites will turnout to vote against Trump instead of for him, and turn the election into a landslide Democratic victory.

realclearpolitics.com

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:51:19am

re: #222 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of Wagner…

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:51:30am

Haha ‘Ride of the Valkyries’.
Subtle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:52:05am

re: #220 freetoken

My, look at his big hands plane…

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:52:44am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because we’ve been wondering what Boehner has been up to lately:

[Embedded content]

God bless him; I’m glad he is enjoying retirement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:52:55am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:52:56am

I suppose Trump will play the victim card and lament how freedom of speech was trampled by thugs…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:53:19am

re: #229 Big Beautiful Door

God bless him; I’m glad he is enjoying retirement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:54:18am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:55:05am

re: #231 freetoken

I suppose Trump will play the victim card and lament how freedom of speech was trampled by thugs…

Not like him to miss the opportunity, especially if he planned it weeks ago.

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:55:51am

The Emperor leaves the shuttle.

236
Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:57:19am

Still listening to Beethoven:

4th Movement - part 1 - Ode to Freedom - 1989 - Leonard Bernstein - Beethoven’s 9th Symphony HD 720p

The livestream cut away from his 9th at an inopportune moment and I couldn’t just stay with the Trump feed. I had to listen to something that doesn’t make me cringe.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:58:53am

re: #235 Alyosha

The Emperor leaves the shuttle.

He’s more like the First Order general from The Force Awakens than he is like Palpatine.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:59:51am
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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 7:59:58am

‘Big, big hanger’.
Is this more innuendo?
/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:00:10am

“A planned attack came out of nowhere!”
“Professionally done!!!”

“Big Nick would have been there and cleaned them all out!!!”

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:00:34am

re: #239 Alyosha

‘Big, big hanger’.
Is this more innuendo?
/

It calls attention to the size of his plane.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:01:17am

I shouldn’t be surprised, but the knuckledraggers who believe every word that SMOTI and his fellow RWNJ pundits print now take it as gospel truth that the Heil Lady at the Trump rally is a Bernie supporter by the name of Portia Boulger. This, despite the Tribune identifying the lady by name under the photo and despite their not looking at all alike.

She’s a liberal plant. Shut up libtard!

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danarchy  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:02:04am

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

Thank you both for the clarification. If I were MSNBC, I’d make Ms. Fields a semi-generous offer of employment just about now. In reality, I expect MSNBC will not want to ‘tilt left’ in such a way (though that’s what their core audience would like) and it will be CNN that scoops her up.

Which is to say that it will be like picking up free agents in the NFL, with CNN as the Green Bay Packers and MSNBC as the Chicago Bears.

/I’m a Bears fan, but their front office’s actions in drafts and free agency are mostly brain-dead.

She is already a Fox news contributor. Has been for a while.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:02:44am

re: #239 Alyosha

‘Big, big hanger’.
Is this more innuendo?
/

He should speak at Akron. Their hangars can handle zeppelins.

google.com

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:03:03am

Rather than being magnanimous, Trump continues to raise the rhetoric and irrational fervor. Right out playbook of 1939 Germany. His supporters are nothing but sheeple.

246
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:04:12am

“Bernie, our communist friend…”

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:04:51am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

He should speak at Akron. Their hangars can handle zeppelins.

google.com

Not good symbolism, since Ted Cruz’s flacks would then compare Trump’s campaign to the Hindenburg.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:06:04am

Akron—home of Earthquaker Devices—good guitar pedals. Sorry. Back to our regularly scheduled broadcast….

249
Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:06:37am

Wow, it’s just an unfocussed and unfunny roast of anything that’s decent in America.

250
Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:07:26am

So Neutron Jack supports Calgary Ted. Figures.

251
Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:07:53am

Complete abdication of responsibility. ‘I didn’t want to do this’.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:09:18am

re: #210 Dark_Falcon

Not FDR’s since he wouldn’t have been president. It would have been impossible for him to practice the image control he needed and so he would have been seen as a “cripple” and hence would have been rendered unelectable.

I was thinking of someone outside the USA, but your comment does bring up the question of the electability of a disabled presidential candidate. Abbott and Duckworth have been elected to office, so perhaps another wheelchair-bound person could be elected to the White House without having to hide the condition from the public.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:09:29am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:09:51am

re: #204 freetoken

Thx, Just turned it off. Just say NO!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:10:07am
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Lancelot Link  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:10:37am

re: #247 Dark_Falcon

Not good symbolism, since Ted Cruz’s flacks would then compare Trump’s campaign to the Hindenburg.

One flaming Nazi gasbag’s as good as another.

257
Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:10:57am

Media getting ripped on while protesters are being thrown out.

258
darthstar  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:11:46am

Mornin’ everyone.

259
darthstar  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:12:56am

If you’re watching Trump’s rally because the wrecks are more reliable than NASCAR, stop.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:13:04am

re: #258 darthstar

It’s always interesting when the media use “devout” as a synonym for “fanatical”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:13:16am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:13:45am

re: #259 darthstar

If you’re watching Trump’s rally because the wrecks are more reliable than NASCAR, stop.

Well, they only turn left at NASCAR, unlike Trump.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:14:09am

re: #260 Nyet

It’s always interesting when the media use “devout” as a synonym for “fanatical”.

Or “stupid”

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:14:20am

re: #258 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone.

[Embedded content]

No cat will suffer the stupidity of humans if it doesn’t have to. But in this case the lions bit the wingnut, tasted the Bad Craziness within, and the decided that the meat wasn’t safe for their cubs.

/Nothing but a good time.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:14:40am

Off to plant veggies before the storms hit. BBLre:
#257 Alyosha

Media getting ripped on while protesters are being thrown out.

Scripted like a Ralph and Sam cartoon.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:15:33am

re: #260 Nyet

It’s always interesting when the media use “devout” as a synonym for “fanatical”.

“Fanatical” has a negative connotation and the Sun doesn’t want to be seen as attacking Christianity.

267
Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:15:36am

Attacking oil again. MacArthur. Patton. Waiting for the torture spruik.

268
darthstar  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:15:57am

Love this song…and it’s time to go take my dog out for a splash.

Bottle Rockets “Dog” (Official Music Video)

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:16:08am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

Well, looks like Kurt Schlichter and Donald Trump Jr both think she was a Bernie plant, even though it’s not the same woman. Figures.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:17:24am

Another responsible gun owner right up to the moment he became a murderer:

‘You guys got to go’: Milwaukee man kills 3 after complaining neighbor doesn’t speak English

Anyone want to bet he has a Make America Great Again hat and bumper sticker?

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nines09  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:17:57am

Trump in the morning. Must be like being a junkie.

272
Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:18:23am

Attacking NAFTA and the TPP. It would seem to me that these people don’t read the Economist. I don’t either, but wasn’t market liberalism a major GOP policy?

273
Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:19:48am

Are Tim and Eric his chief media consultants?

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:20:07am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:21:24am

Petroleum production in Ohio is miniscule.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:21:26am

re: #270 Dr. Matt

Another responsible gun owner right up to the moment he became a murderer:

‘You guys got to go’: Milwaukee man kills 3 after complaining neighbor doesn’t speak English

Anyone want to bet he has a Make America Great Again hat and bumper sticker?

How can a gun store owner figure out if the guy whom he sells a gun to is going to go nuts months or years down the road?

Blame Trump not the gun!

277
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:21:35am
278
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:21:52am

Trump talking torture now…

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:21:58am

‘Ohio would be a swollen hemorrhoidal sphincter if not for your oil’.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:22:33am

re: #267 Alyosha

Attacking oil again. MacArthur. Patton. Waiting for the torture spruik.

We’re already attacking Daesh’s oil production. In fact, between the coalition and Russia we’ve crippled it.

281
Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:23:02am

I smell torture-porn oncoming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:23:50am
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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:24:31am

Morning Lizardim from the beautiful, warm, sunny wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:25:39am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:26:32am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone needs to circulate a photo of it with the #AARP hashtag. Maybe we can get seniors angry at Trump, too.

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nines09  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:27:31am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spoken like every tomato can lying on his back in the ring.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:29:53am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

“Fanatical” has a negative connotation and the Sun doesn’t want to be seen as attacking Christianity.

This doesn’t make sense to me.
When you say “devout” in relation to this, you’re saying that this is what the religion stands for.
Whereas by saying “fanatical” you’re distancing these actions from religion as such.

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:30:44am

Pimping his Twitter account. Accurately points out that it’s a direct way to respond to media which, as is their wont, immediately carry his Tweets as stories.
The media owns this shit.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:30:48am

re: #275 freetoken

Petroleum production in Ohio is miniscule.

There will be Yuuge Fracking!! So much wonderful Fracking. We will Frack on every street in Ohio and is will be terrific!!!11!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:31:14am
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:32:21am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, like you actually cut that lawn, Mr. Boehner.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:32:23am

oh dear the Pershing story…

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:32:25am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Look at that little old lady crushing the free speech of the hatebreed Trumpbots.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:32:27am

re: #289 Dave In Austin

will be Yuuge Fracking!! So much wonderful Fracking. We will Frack on every street in Ohio and is will be terrific!!!11!!

Judge Doom - My God, It’ll Be Beautiful.

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:32:47am

‘Drown them!’
Shout from crowd.
Pershing story again. Fuck sake.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:33:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:34:07am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:34:13am

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

How can a gun store owner figure out if the guy whom he sells a gun to is going to go nuts months or years down the road?
!

Thanks. You’re making the argument that too many people have guns and that wholesale tighter restrictions are needed. Go caress your rifle now in the fetal position. You’re dismissed.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:34:23am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

There you are! We were just talking about you the other day.

Sheesh, you can’t just wander off without telling anyone y’know. //

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:34:37am

This has turned into a fucking Passion play.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:35:53am

re: #299 CuriousLurker

There you are! We were just talking about you the other day.

Sheesh, you can’t just wander off without telling anyone y’know. //

It’s amazing what a community we’ve built here.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:36:47am

“these are people who have horrible thoughts” - sez Trump after spending 10 minutes fantasizing about torture.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:38:30am

re: #270 Dr. Matt

Another responsible gun owner right up to the moment he became a murderer:

‘You guys got to go’: Milwaukee man kills 3 after complaining neighbor doesn’t speak English

Anyone want to bet he has a Make America Great Again hat and bumper sticker?

A guy like that will just move on to the next lethal device. Some folks gun access or not just changes what they use to try and kill or maim.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:39:17am
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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:39:29am
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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:40:03am

re: #287 Nyet

This doesn’t make sense to me.
When you say “devout” in relation to this, you’re saying that this is what the religion stands for.
Whereas by saying “fanatical” you’re distancing these actions from religion as such.

Connotation, like fanaticism, is about emotion, not reason. People as a rule don’t want the word “fanaticism” associated with their religion.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:40:50am

re: #305 jaunte

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Well, why should he? Even if his followers initiate the violence, they can still spin it so that they’re the victims.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:41:13am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Connotation, like fanaticism, is about emotion, not reason. People as a rule don’t want the word “fanaticism” associated with their religion.

If the shoe fits …

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:41:23am

re: #299 CuriousLurker

There you are! We were just talking about you the other day.

Sheesh, you can’t just wander off without telling anyone y’know. //

Heh. Sorry about that. Been superbusy with work lately. Lots going on here in Euroland.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:41:49am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

-1 for your insults. Go soak your head.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:42:42am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:43:47am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Connotation, like fanaticism, is about emotion, not reason. People as a rule don’t want the word “fanaticism” associated with their religion.

Well then, we can assume this guy represents Christianity. He’s devout, after all./

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:43:50am

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

How can a gun store owner figure out if the guy whom he sells a gun to is going to go nuts months or years down the road?

Blame Trump not the gun!

Do you think someone like that didn’t show signs of severe emotional unbalance months, years, before he murdered those people for the unforgivable crime of being different!?

That a person like that is allowed within spitting distance of a firearm is an indictment of much of America’s indifference to and preference for violence.

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:44:01am

re: #306 Dark_Falcon

Connotation, like fanaticism, is about emotion, not reason. People as a rule don’t want the word “fanaticism” associated with their religion.

A devoted believer remembers the story of Daniel and thinks of the martyrdom of early Christians when he/she sees a lion if they react at all. A fanatic rushes said apex predators, thinking god will spare him.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:44:24am

re: #270 Dr. Matt

People are now dying because of Trump.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:45:17am

re: #315 Ziggy_TARDIS

People are now dying because of Trump.

Say what? Who died?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:45:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:46:34am
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:46:54am

Wow. I sure can tell it is election time in Ohio. About an hour and a half ago there was a knock on my front door. Lots of times Saturday’s are Jehovah Witness days in the ‘hood. So. I always check to see what I am going to be up against. I looked through the peep hole and saw a younger guy on my porch so I opened the door to see what was up.

And then I noticed is little round sticker on his jacket with an H> on it. A Hillary canvasser. Cool. Had a nice 15/20 minute chat with him, gave him kudos for doing what he he is doing and we talked about Chicago. The young guy is good. He knew his stuff and could express himself well.

After that, I come back to the computer to try to catch up on all the overnight posts here, which I am now discovering I will not have time to do. Stuff is flying fast.

And then my phone rang…and a young lady asked for Tim. I get a lot of calls because my phone number is very close to a number associated with Franklin County (Columbus) Juvenile Courts/Detention. People, probably a little distressed, miss the numbers and flip flop them, and I get the call. So, I said to the caller you have the wrong number who were trying to call? She said she was a Bernie Sanders supporter and was calling to speak to a listed democrat at this number. I’ve had the number for 30 + years…so I am thinking they are calling for me, and I engaged her.

Yep, she was most definitely a Bernie supporter. Thankfully with all the stuff I get to read here at LGF I was very prepared for everything she said. Too prepared.

We had a nice discussion. I told her that I like Bernie but was afraid he was too idealistic and am concerned he is going to run into the same brick wall that Obama ran into and that he hasn’t had to go up against the GOP machine that packed all of Hillary’s baggage. And we talked about all that for a good half hour.

I told her I very much admired what she was doing, I am not a Bernie hater and in fact like that Bernie has helped drive Hillary and the Dem party to speak to some of his thinking. I told her she could be sure that if Bernie is the Democratic nominee I will vote for him…guaranteed. I told her I will probably vote for Hillary on Tuesday and she seemed confused.

And then I got in my talking points and told her I hoped she wasn’t so passionate for Bernie that she would not vote for Hillary and vote for Trump or not vote at all should Hillary be the Democrat candidate. She ask why I asked that. I told her I read too many Bernie or Bust types and they need to get over that…this is how America works…the Democrats need her vote.

And yes, I heard all about Goldman-Sachs and all that. And then I told her I gotta get off the phone but keep doing what you are doing I admire your spunk and keep an open mind to the entire political process.

And then I remembered how the call came in and asked her how they may have gotten my phone number and gotten the name wrong. I wondered if Bernie was working off bad records and that concerned me for what she was doing. She was actually calling from out of New Jersey and going on what she had, but she was having some trouble with some of her data. I do hope Bernie is getting good data.

If I were to rate the Bernie Supporter to the Clinto guy at my door, I give the Clinton canvasser a higher rating. He really knew his stuff and he knew the whole process and had good answers for everything. It was not all script, he thought for himself and it was obvious. I would guess the Sanders supporter was similar in age, but she seemed more scripted and was easy to throw off her points when contested. I hope she tightens up a bit. Bernie needs her!

And now back to trying to catch up with that mess in Chicago and where that is going today now that Trump is in Ohio. Sorry for the long post…just trying to give you the real play by play from Ohio.

I can only guess what November is going to be like. Yesterday I noticed a Bernie Sanders campaign office opened in a little shopping plaza here on Main street, only a stone’s throw from my house. So, Bernie is trying to work the Black vote as I’ve said here before, I live in a transition neighborhood and I vote at a polling place in a predominately African American school. I expected Bernie canvassers at my door soon. I’ve not seen this much action for a primary ever. What a year.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:47:11am

re: #298 Dr. Matt

Thanks. You’re making the argument that too many people have guns and that wholesale tighter restrictions are needed. Go caress your rifle now in the fetal position. You’re dismissed.

That is not what that means. BTW did you know a very large proportion of stolen guns were taken whilst in transit. Shall we blame the manufacturer of a product for crappy security at UPS? I just found this out from an FFL guy I know who had a meeting with some agents on his monthly audit of his DROS files.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:47:46am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Still relevant.

Green Day - American Idiot

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:48:09am

re: #303 Great White Snark

A guy like that will just move on to the next lethal device. Some folks gun access or not just changes what they use to try and kill or maim.

But it is a great deal more difficult to kill someone without a firearm. This gives the victims more options to defend themselves or flee.

Firearms were designed to be efficient methods of killing things. They serve no other purpose. Allowing people who can’t or won’t use them responsibly is not tyranny but wisdom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:49:00am

Protesters on the stage with Trump

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:49:37am

re: #313 Romantic Heretic

Do you think someone like that didn’t show signs of severe emotional unbalance months, years, before he murdered those people for the unforgivable crime of being different!?

That a person like that is allowed within spitting distance of a firearm is an indictment of much of America’s indifference to and preference for violence.

I don’t know if he did. I just heard about this murder. Before I go figuring out who to blame besides those who fill his head with lies, I want some more information.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:49:41am

Sometimes, when the lighting hits the sweat on his upper lip just right, it looks like Trump has a white Hitler mustache.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:50:03am

Responsible gun control means we take a fair look at who can control what. Makers can not control guns once sold under the FFL system. Nor ensure their security once sold. No more than Ford can assure their cars can’t be jacked for bank robberies. Holding anyone responsible for actions completely out of their control for anything is wrong.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:50:18am

Oh joy. I just turned on MSNBC to see what is up.

TRUMP in Dayton at another airport hanger…with some protester trying to get some attention right off.

Oh, America….

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:50:24am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

Bought at least six copies of the album as presents the year that came out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:50:40am

talking about Carrier air conditioners again.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:50:51am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

Protesters on the stage with Trump

No, those were SS. Firecrackers went off.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:51:03am

Six facts about censorship in Cuba

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:51:12am

re: #322 Romantic Heretic

But it is a great deal more difficult to kill someone without a firearm. This gives the victims more options to defend themselves or flee.

Firearms were designed to be efficient methods of killing things. They serve no other purpose. Allowing people who can’t or won’t use them responsibly is not tyranny but wisdom.

Before IED’s that was pretty accurate. Sadly that kinder time has passed.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:51:26am

re: #328 Alyosha

Bought at least six copies of the album as presents the year that came out.

Great album. And one of the better social critiques as of late.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:51:33am

re: #316 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The three killed in the story I replied to were killed because they didn’t speak English to the level the asshole wanted.

Considering what Trump has been saying, I am willing to nail him with the blame.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:51:49am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:52:38am
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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:52:45am

re: #312 Nyet

Well then, we can assume this guy represents Christianity. He’s devout, after all./

I’m just saying why the Sun chooses words as it does. That’s not the same thing as arguing that said newspaper is making the linguistically or intellectually correct choice; It only means it is making what its management thinks is the economically correct choice. As ever, follow the money.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:53:41am

re: #326 Great White Snark

Responsible gun control means we take a fair look at who can control what. Makers can not control guns once sold under the FFL system. Nor ensure their security once sold. No more than Ford can assure their cars can’t be jacked for bank robberies. Holding anyone responsible for actions completely out of their control for anything is wrong.

This.

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:53:49am

Pledge time.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:54:33am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

Heh, whe I heard last nigt that Ayers had been there, it was like “Oh boy, here we go: Obama and his jackbooted thugs!”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:55:05am

re: #334 Ziggy_TARDIS

The three killed in the story I replied to were killed because they didn’t speak English to the level the asshole wanted.

Considering what Trump has been saying, I am willing to nail him with the blame.

Oh, OK. I thought you meant a protester at a Trump rally.

Trump can’t be charged with aiding and abetting the crime, but his open bigotry has certainly inspired the worst characteristics of Americans to come forth. Pure demagoguery.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:55:23am

Well that’s over.

But wait, there’s more.

In 2 hours in Cleveland:

LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Cleveland, OH (3-12-16) LIVE Donald Trump Cleveland Ohio Rally

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:55:35am

re: #245 Dr. Matt

Rather than being magnanimous, Trump continues to raise the rhetoric and irrational fervor. Right out playbook of 1939 Germany. His supporters are nothing but sheeple.

Aw, c’mon. 1935 at most.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:55:58am

re: #332 Great White Snark

I’m done. IEDs are easy to make?

I don’t blame guns by the way. I blame the culture that supports unlimited firearm without any serious attempt to limit irresponsible, untrained use. I blame the culture that has made firearms a holy icon rather than practical tools of violence useful only in very limited and very rare circumstances.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:56:25am

Tonight Trump will be in Kansas City.

If he makes it through Cleveland…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:56:29am

re: #343 sagehen

Aw, c’mon. 1935 at most.

Yeah, give the guy a break. He hasn’t invaded any countries yet. //

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:56:50am

So I’m off to see a film later. Eye In The Sky, Helen Mirren. Drama about the use of weaponized drones in the WOT. I caught an interview with her on NPR, she talked me into seeing it.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:56:54am

re: #339 Alyosha

Pledge time.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:58:08am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:01:11am

re: #349 jaunte

I pledge allegiance to The Donald, for all the things for which he stands, Fearless Leader, under God, unintellectual, with yoogeness and greatness for all. Amen.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:01:29am

re: #350 Nyet

Don’t spend all those Delegates in One place!!! :P

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:02:33am

Donald Trump’s son just retweeted white supremacist Vox Day. Unreal.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:02:36am

re: #351 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Always a bad sign to see people pledging allegiance to the Great Leader.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:02:36am

Trump took an extra amount of time to retell the apocryphal Pershing story, adding historical revisionism on top of the myth.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:03:00am

re: #353 Charles Johnson

Donald Trump’s son just retweeted white supremacist Vox Day. Unreal.

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Very real.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:03:22am

re: #351 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I pledge allegiance to The Donald, for all the things for which he stands, Fearless Leader, under God, unintellectual, with yoogeness and greatness for all. Amen.

More like “Ich schwöre: Ich werde dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler Donald Trump treu und gehorsam sein, die Gesetze beachten, und meine Amtspflichten gewissenhaft erfüllen, so wahr mir Gott helfe.”

I think it sounds better in the original German. But that’s just me.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:03:30am

re: #353 Charles Johnson

And the information he retweeted is false and targets an innocent person.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:04:07am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:04:32am
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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:04:32am

re: #357 Dr Lizardo

More like “Ich schwöre: Ich werde dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler Donald Trump treu und gehorsam sein, die Gesetze beachten, und meine Amtspflichten gewissenhaft erfüllen, so wahr mir Gott helfe.”

I think it sounds better in the original German. But that’s just me.

Du meintest vielleicht “des Amerikanischen Reiches”.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:04:48am

re: #344 Romantic Heretic

IED’s care easy to make. By way of DIY the internet has educated the violent. Not just ISIS sites either. The main body of a bomb is as easy as a bbq propane tank. And we have road rage or murder via vehicle. Arson on a full house. Weapons are many, real killers are few and far between.

We do agree gun culture has to change. The path to that includes fair laws that impact the criminal more than the innocents access. Also an understanding that inasmuch as they facilitate killing and they do, that killing is often enough in self defense that we have to take that into account.

This is all very fresh on my mind as a pal just saved his own life with a gun. I spoke to him at length yesterday. This is not the forum for those details, and it’s all in confidence anyway until legalities are final at least.

His story has one big lesson for us all. The best defensive device was his brain. His awareness of the situation. The man he killed had property from a previous recent double murder. But had he not had the gun he was trapped with a killer.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:05:09am

re: #353 Charles Johnson

Fox might, because they don’t care that’s it’s false, just like the Trump family.

God, imagine this family running the country. I’d rather have Tony Soprano instead.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:05:21am

re: #361 Nyet

Du meintest vielleicht “des Amerikanischen Reiches”.

Yeah. My bad.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:05:42am

re: #357 Dr Lizardo

More like “Ich schwöre: Ich werde dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler Donald Trump treu und gehorsam sein, die Gesetze beachten, und meine Amtspflichten gewissenhaft erfüllen, so wahr mir Gott helfe.”

I think it sounds better in the original German. But that’s just me.

I’m sure most of the people at his rally would not see anything wrong with either Trump’s pledge or Hitler’s. They *want* a Fearless Leader to tell them everything will be OK, they will be happy, if only they elect him.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:05:57am

re: #360 FormerDirtDart

It looks kind of WWE stagy, Trump making the dramatic squirrel move.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:07:19am

re: #353 Charles Johnson

The identification of the lady is so completely wrong that it would make your head spin, but it’s now RWNJ gospel that Heil Lady is a Bernie supporter named Portia.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:07:31am

re: #364 Dr Lizardo

“des groooooßen und wunderbaren Amerikanischen Reiches”

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:09:40am

Hitler/Nazism is so overused now it’s a caricature. Useless to anyone as a cautionary tale. Maybe thats generational. We need an iconic sense of danger, a real risk to our values that is as immediate as the next primary vote. the next rally.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:10:37am

re: #369 Great White Snark

Hitler is so overused it’s a caricature. Useless anyone as a cautionary tale. Maybe thats generational. We need an iconic sense of danger, a real risk to our values that is as immediate as the next primary vote.

Carlos Danger?

///ducks///

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:11:46am

Well, it’s 1 am here and my eyelids are getting droopy. Time to call it a night. Later on!

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:12:33am

re: #369 Great White Snark

Hitler isn’t the best analogy to Trump (Mussolini is much better), but unfortunately many Americans just don’t have the knowledge of history to know anything before the invention of the iPhone.

Witness all these idiots buying into Trumps stories about Pershing and MacArthur.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:12:48am

re: #369 Great White Snark

Hitler is so overused it’s a caricature. Useless anyone as a cautionary tale. Maybe thats generational. We need an iconic sense of danger, a real risk to our values that is as immediate as the next primary vote. the next rally.

I nominate Barack Obama for the role of danger icon! He fits the requirements perfectly as he’s sneaky, he’s socialist and he’s black!

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Alyosha  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:13:58am

Late here, gotta jet.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:16:02am

A good point made elsewhere: suppose Bernie at this point led with +225 delegates. Something tells me BernieBros would be shouting that it’s over and she should go away.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:17:51am

The hits and proofs just keep coming. The police are in the tank for Trump. Contrast with brietbart.

The president of CBS News is standing by one of the network’s journalists who was arrested outside a Donald Trump rally that was canceled amid violence between Trump supporters and protesters.
David Rhodes tweeted that journalist Sopan Deb, who was covering the rally at the University of Illinois’ Chicago campus on Friday, was handcuffed and charged with resisting arrest.
“On tape you see he did not resist, identified himself as working press,” Rhodes said in his tweet.
CBS News also aired footage of the rally and of Deb’s arrest, which he managed to capture on tape. In the accompanying article, Deb said police abruptly threw him to the ground and handcuffed him.
Deb was charged with resisting arrest, “although there is no sign of that on the video,” according to CBS.

money.cnn.com

Other reports say the police literally stepped on his neck to hold him. Thats a threat to kill. A psyche play that can last for years and trigger PTSD as intended.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:20:15am

“The Northern Marianas wiped out half of Bernie’s delegate gain from Michigan.”

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:20:52am

Looks to me like covering Trump rallies will be as dangerous as covering anti police protests ala Ferguson.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:25:44am

re: #378 Great White Snark

Looks to me like covering Trump rallies will be as dangerous as covering anti police protests ala Ferguson.

To be fair, RWC, that happened in Chicago. And while I love Chicago, the Chicago Police Department did think giving this guy a badge was a good idea:

So I’m not surprised there are other nasty cops on the force.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:25:52am

The link is to a very cool website:

MEET THE BUG CHICKS:

Kristie Reddick & Jessica Honaker are entomologists who teach about the incredible world of insects, spiders and other arthropods. They produce videos and resources for the discerning bugdork.

But DO NOT GO THERE if you don’t like spiders and other arachnids! Great [horrific] photos! A caption:

This Zeria fordi female from Lake Bogoria, Kenya is chomping on a grasshopper. This particular solifuge ate everything we offered her, including poisonous millipedes!

Some text:

Solifuges (also called camel spiders, wind scorpions or sun-spiders) are ancient, nonvenomous arachnids in the Order Solifugae. They are related to true spiders and scorpions and the other members of the Class Arachnida (I like to think of them as cousins). They are easily identified by their huge forward facing jaws, called chelicerae. Unlike spiders and scorpions that use venom to kill their prey, solifuges use their powerful chelicerae to crush and macerate their prey. Then they use their rostrum (an organ that operates like a straw) to suck down and filter all of the juices of the crushed food.

[…]

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:26:25am

re: #380 wrenchwench

nnnnope

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:26:30am

re: #176 Dark_Falcon

Saying he’d support the nominee is again part of confirming he’s loyal to the GOP and not a RINO. Anyone who refuses to support the Republican nominee is going to be considered a Sekrit Clinton Sellout by much of the base and purged as such.

/not kidding

So, you are admitting a vote for Trump so you can be party pure. Can we surmise who else you would support if they hang an “R” by their name. I’m guessing that would mean anyone.

May the purging commence. The real American Patriots will be leaving. Death to the party that is left to the purists that are more concerned by being a member of the party than a citizen of this country.

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CleverToad  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:26:54am

re: #319 ObserverArt

Thanks for the play by play reporting! It’s interesting and useful to see how the campaign workers are doing in representing their candidates in the outreach efforts.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:27:59am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:28:31am

Vox Day knows this is false, but he’s refusing to delete the tweet.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:28:35am
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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:28:45am

re: #381 Nyet

nnnnope

The photo on the tweet looks like it’s of someone’s garment. I wonder whether it’s being worn?

Ooops, sorry!

/

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:29:39am

Got email from allegro.

All’s good.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:29:48am

re: #380 wrenchwench

Oh look, its a lesser nope.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:29:49am

re: #387 wrenchwench

Hey, #Triggering was a few days ago. //

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:30:23am

Got screenshots.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:30:58am

re: #388 Stanley Sea

Got email from allegro.

All’s good.

Thanks!

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:31:50am

It’s amazingly insightful that the response to a lady sieg heil at a Trump rally is to try to create the impression that it’s a Bernie plant.

It’s an acknowledgement that the sieg heil is actually a bad thing in the first place. But that’s the only acknowledgement of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:33:40am
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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:34:48am

re: #360 FormerDirtDart

[Embedded content]

This is apparently the incident that is getting so much play at Drudge and free republic.

Trump rushed on stage by protester, SS stopped attack.

At freep, Trumpsters are blaming Cruz fans and it’s getting downright nasty:

Probably was a Cruzbot.
Every single one of these protesters and their masters must be dealt with.
The time is here. Civil War 2 is here. The time to pick a side is here.

which drew this succinct but now deleted reply from a Cruz supporter:

Fuck off and die.

Even among these warring factions there seems to be a consensus that Soros and Ayers are the real masters. Cruzaders just naturally resent that their guy is being lumped in with the lefty masterminds.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:36:17am

“Trump rushed on stage by protester, SS stopped attack.”

This reads so ambiguously now.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:39:18am

Completely OT, and apropos of nothing, but since we were talking earlier about the close-knit community here, I owe the lizardfolk at least this much. Last summer, I started developing back pains. I found out this week that it appears to be some sort of tumor or growth compressing my spinal cord and nerves. I don’t have any information other than that, but you guys deserve to know. I go in to see a back specialist in a little over a week; I assume at that time I’ll have more information and know what my options are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:39:33am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:40:19am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

Huckster is so desperate to get on someone’s gravy train.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:40:21am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

{{positive vibes}}

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:41:05am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

Hoping it’s nothing serious!

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:41:26am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

We are rooting for ya here.

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gwangung  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:41:57am

Sigh.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:42:13am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

Ditto Sleuth - positive vibes being sent your way.

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CleverToad  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:43:38am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

{{Ginger and cautious hugs, to avoid causing any pain. Thinking positive thoughts for something benign and treatable.}}

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Dave In Austin  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:44:08am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

{{{Positive vibes your way my friend}}}

Shit..

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:46:35am

Tactical advice at free republic:
WE MUST FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE - infiltrate Democrat rallies

We must fight fire with fire. We must infiltrate Bernie and Hilary’s rallies. We must have groups of people who interlock arms and sit in the middle of their rallies. We need to yell accurate statements like Rapist Enabler, Felon and Commie. We need to make them forcibly remove us.

This is like overhearing a group of 10 year olds plot their assault on the enemy gang’s fort in a game of war.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:46:45am

re: #303 Great White Snark

A guy like that will just move on to the next lethal device. Some folks gun access or not just changes what they use to try and kill or maim.

Good chance I am way behind in this thread, but here goes.

I am surprised you would use this argument.

Tell me what other device gives you the same bad chances to get away from the attack, stand a good chance to survive the attack or take on the attacker?

Guns are highly efficient at what they do. Are knives, clubs, martial arts devices, cars, what other device gives you such a poor chance to defend or escape?

I admit I may be missing something.

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Viscous Obama  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:48:07am

I click on ONE Drumpf video and now Youtube is trying to sell me scary books about the CIA

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:48:31am

re: #404 Stanley Sea

By the way I went to the Trumpf campaign page, “States”. California not even listed, too soon I guess. But patience pays.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:48:44am

re: #409 Viscous Obama

Many of the Trump rally live feeds are from Alex Jones supporters and the like.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:50:12am

re: #411 freetoken

That is, the Youtube channel on which you find the Trump live feed.

I don’t know who is running the cameras.

The Youtube livestreams seem to depend upon a couple of different video sources.

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:50:51am

re: #339 Alyosha

Pledge time.

Cripes, Trump really is sticking with it. Amazing.

I wonder when he will have Birgitt Peterson, the See Kyle Lady, at a rally to guest-conduct the pledge.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:51:42am

nytimes.com

Imagine, for instance, a brutal stretch for Mrs. Clinton, one where she underperforms the demographic projections by as much as she did in Michigan for the rest of the year.

She loses in Ohio and Missouri next Tuesday. States where Mrs. Clinton was thought to have an advantage, like Arizona, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, California and Connecticut, become tossups. Mrs. Clinton wins New York, but by just eight percentage points.

She gets swept in the West, including big 40-point losses in places like Alaska, Idaho, North Dakota, Utah and Montana, and 30-point losses in Washington and Oregon. She loses by 20 points in Wisconsin and Rhode Island, by 30 in West Virginia and Kentucky.

She still wins — and comfortably.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:53:02am

Some confusion on my part about Trump’s West Chester (Greater Cincinnati) rally being at 2 p.m. today.
Just saw a clarification that the rally is tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:57:56am

re: #326 Great White Snark

Responsible gun control means we take a fair look at who can control what. Makers can not control guns once sold under the FFL system. Nor ensure their security once sold. No more than Ford can assure their cars can’t be jacked for bank robberies. Holding anyone responsible for actions completely out of their control for anything is wrong.

How many people have been killed by the car in a bank robbery?

How many young children have gotten the keys to the car so they can injure mom by driving over her?

How many cars are used to commit suicide in?

How many cars have been used to blow someone off your front porch late at night because you were scared someone strange that was in an auto accident was pounding on your door for help?

How many cars have been used to kill a guy that took one piece of pizza too many?

How many cars are used to kill your entire family because of your anger at the world?

Yes, I am aware that cars have been used in to kill in some of these same types of instances, but what is the comparative ratio?

This is a big stretch. A stretch lino type of stretch.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:00:02am

re: #408 ObserverArt

Good chance I am way behind in this thread, but here goes.

I am surprised you would use this argument.

Tell me what other device gives you the same bad chances to get away from the attack, stand a good chance to survive the attack or take on the attacker?

Guns are highly efficient at what they do. Are knives, clubs, martial arts devices, cars, what other device gives you such a poor chance to defend or escape?

I admit I may be missing something.

My point is about parsing the kinds of killers, to a practical understanding. Some killers are determined, planners, not easily halted. Some are momentary anger management tragedies. In the first instance, gun control will be less effective than the second. The first will plan and build and perhaps hide the device so no escape is likely. The latter is limited to what’s convenient and manageable. Of course we have seen both some spree shooters do build bombs too. San Bernardino-if not guns then bombs for sure.

Let’s not just include killings. Where gun control is truly effective the bad guys don’t quit all weapons just the guns. Chains, knives and clubs. Saps, brass knuckles are all threatening enough to kill, steal or rape.

A person like myself (just meaning a robbery risk) who could not have a gun for defense then has a tougher job by far in self defense against a guy with non gun weapons. Martial arts can work but who has the time, youth and physicality required? Only a very few people.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:01:32am

re: #416 ObserverArt

How many people have been killed by the car in a bank robbery?

How many young children have gotten the keys to the car so they can injure mom by driving over her?

How many cars are used to commit suicide in?

How many cars have been used to blow someone off your front porch late at night because you were scared someone strange that was in an auto accident was pounding on your door for help?

How many cars have been used to kill a guy that took one piece of pizza too many?

How many cars are used to kill your entire family because of your anger at the world?

Yes, I am aware that cars have been used in to kill in some of these same types of instances, but what is the comparative ratio?

This is a big stretch. A stretch lino type of stretch.

It’s not a stretch when you understand that weapons, as designed or improvised abound. Garages, kitchens, sporting goods.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:09:22am

re: #397 thedopefishlives

Completely OT, and apropos of nothing, but since we were talking earlier about the close-knit community here, I owe the lizardfolk at least this much. Last summer, I started developing back pains. I found out this week that it appears to be some sort of tumor or growth compressing my spinal cord and nerves. I don’t have any information other than that, but you guys deserve to know. I go in to see a back specialist in a little over a week; I assume at that time I’ll have more information and know what my options are.

I hope it is benign and no worry other than it needs to go to take pressure of you nerves, etc. Hang in there Dope!

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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:17:59am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sometimes, when the lighting hits the sweat on his upper lip just right, it looks like Trump has a white Hitler mustache.

I first read that as when the LIGHTNING hits the sweat…conjured a similar image/

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:22:18am

re: #380 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

The link is to a very cool website:

But DO NOT GO THERE if you don’t like spiders and other arachnids! Great [horrific] photos! A caption:

Some text:

They’re on a Windows 10 advert, I believe. We see it on History Channel while watching the total lack of historical shows.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:32:41am

re: #418 Great White Snark

It’s not a stretch when you understand that weapons, as designed or improvised abound. Garages, kitchens, sporting goods.

But do you agree that nothing is as fast and efficient as a gun?

I think it is sort of stupid to make that kind of a stretch and I think it is a lazy argument.

I think it is best to discuss guns when discussing guns.

I think it would be better to discuss certain gins over others, like semi-auto pistols. Doses everyone in America need to have access to them? What kind of a statistical change in the gun death rate would change without them?

I am not saying a store owner or someone in your line of work shouldn’t have a pistol, just that you’d need to go through a process, like buying a car and insuring and registering it as a legit reason for having it. I don’t think a guy like me has a legit reason for owning a pistol. If I choose, I can buy a nice .20 gauge shotgun for defense of my home and go hunting with it should I choose. It also would be hard for me to conceal it easily and create some of the same types of carnage I could with a semi-auto pistol.

Maybe we need to discuss more how can work, how fast they work and can be reloaded and how a person on the other hand has a better chance against it. Real world stuff.

To me the big problem remains that there are reasonable controls that can be put in place but never will because there will be no discussion. And that is wrong. Simply wrong. We regulate a lawn game like “Jarts” and take them off the market.

And I also think that putting up an argument like cars used in robbery is a deflection and it surprised me you’d go there. You’ve always seemed to be better than that. I am hoping the unfortunate deal your friend got in the other day may have you off your usual realistic discussions on the subject. This country needs your good reasoning as a gun owner!

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dharmamark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:34:22am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Iron Maiden’s plane is bigger…

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:47:40am

re: #422 ObserverArt

When manufacturer liability for criminal becomes a gun control tool, cars in robberies are not a red herring but a very direct point about how we go about that gun control. I object to liability disconnected from control in the context of criminal misuse In any and every industry. That’s a point I made long ago. Firm in that particular issue.

We have agreed on most of what you cite above. Licenses, device performance limits (vague but trying to include all the options) etc. Universal reg. I hope you see the connection i make because we might disagree in one other thing. The point that guns are designed solely to kill people. I understand the point but it fails at the context of how guns are used in this country. Immense sporting and hunting use. Guns made for specific sports.

Criminal misuse can be made of many devices and chemicals. I like adding penalties for criminal use of certain things including guns. I don’t like broad brushing liability as a rather transparent workaround on congressional inaction.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:48:39am

GTG movies….

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:54:17am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

He should speak at Akron. Their hangars can handle zeppelins.

google.com

Or Vienna AFB, they fly C-130’s out of there. They do their runs right over my head most days. I work under their training flight path. They fly low and you can hear them coming.


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