Donald Trump Jr. Retweets a White Supremacist Making a False Accusation

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We already know Donald Trump has a penchant for retweeting and citing white supremacists, but now his son, Donald Trump, Jr., demonstrates that he’s also attracted to white supremacist Twitter accounts by retweeting a false accusation by notorious racist and World Net Daily columnist Vox Day:

(UPDATE: Trump Jr. has now deleted his tweet with no retraction or apology. So here’s the screenshot we saved.)

Here’s the tweet Trump Jr. thought “exonerated” his father:

Yes, Donald Trump Jr. retweeted a white supremacist to defend his father from charges that he’s supported by white supremacists.

Trump Jr. is right about one thing, though; the media will never run with this. Because Vox Day was completely wrong; the woman in that photo is identified by Chicago Tribune photographer E. Jason Wambsgans as “Donald Trump supporter Birgitt Peterson.”

Day is refusing to delete the tweet, saying he posted a correction. He says he’ll only delete it if the woman he incorrectly identified asks him to.

For her part, Portia Boulger tweeted that her husband is an attorney, and we know what that means.

(Note: I saved screenshots of Trump’s and Day’s tweets, in case they suddenly go missing.)

UPDATE at 3/12/16 10:21:45 am by Charles Johnson

And now, of course, the Stupidest Man on the Internet, Jim Hoft is also going all in on this incorrect identification:

UPDATE at 3/12/16 11:01:00 am by Charles Johnson

Right wing actor James Woods is also spreading this libelous false accusation:

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Sanders supporter in Ohio accused of staging ‘Nazi’ salute in Illinois says it’s not her

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:54:27am

Meanwhile over in Hillaryland,

What Hillary Rodham Clinton said about the Reagans and AIDS is actually worse history than anything said at the GOP debate Thursday night and probably the single dumbest thing she’s ever said in public. Do better, HRC. Fast.

esquire.com

Hillary is showing us that she hasn’t lost her touch for pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory yet again.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:58:32am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 9:59:47am
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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:00:01am

re: #1 Skip Intro

Hillary is showing us that she hasn’t lost her touch for pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory yet again.

Umm, it was a bad mistake, but it’s extreme hyperbole to say that this will wreck her candidacy.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:00:19am

Key GOP fundraiser: Donors will fall in line behind Trump

A top Republican fundraiser says he believes the majority of the party’s donor class will ultimately “fall in line” behind Donald Trump as the party’s presidential nominee despite last-ditch attempts by some wealthy conservatives to derail the billionaire front-runner.

“The majority of donors want to see a Republican victory,” Fred Malek, the finance chair of the Republican Governors Association, said in a telephone interview with The Hill on Friday.

“They might prefer somebody other than Trump but if he gets the nomination they will fall in line.”

[…]

Of course they will. Trump is ultimately just another rich white guy, and other rich white guys really have nothing to fear from him.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:01:32am

This is the guy Trump Jr tweeted:

White Wizard also calls Trump the ‘Trumpenfuhrer.’ As if it’s a good thing.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:02:27am

The Hill uses my video clip without linking to LGF. Lovely.

thehill.com

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:02:50am

re: #6 SoundGuy 2016

This is the guy Trump Jr tweeted:

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White Wizard also calls Trump the ‘Trumpenfuhrer.’ As if it’s a good thing.

It’s not even good German.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:04:30am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

The Hill uses my video clip without linking to LGF. Lovely.

thehill.com

If it’s worthwhile I’d be happy to tweet a complaint about that. Not sure how responsive those editors are.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:04:47am

Remember when Obama made some offhand comment about 57 states and it was the worstest gaffe ever and it sank his presidency?

Yeah, me too.

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Kryptik  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:05:29am

This shit would be funny if it didn’t seem to work on the media and I didn’t feel like I was constantly surrounded by Trump supporters elsewhere.The protester that got punched clearly deserved it and more and probably should’ve been killed but the Chicago protests and the Dayton Ohio screamer means that Liberals are intolerant psychopaths that need to be dealt with now now nown GODDDAMN NOW!!!

It’d be less deflating and demoralizing if this shit didn’t actually keep winning people, including people who seemed to have a decent head on their shoulders before.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:05:44am

re: #4 stpaulbear

I hope she’s getting lots of practice deflecting the Trump Gallop she’s going to face, if she’s the Dem candidate, during the “debates” with Herr Trumpf.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:08:35am

Meanwhile, I saw that Trump finally dropped the C-word with respect to Sanders today. An eyedropper compared to the avalanche of red-baiting he would face in a general, but remember he’s super electable because voters don’t trust Hillary or whatever.

(A strategic error, I think. There’s no reason to deploy that weapon during the Dem primaries)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:09:26am

I want to believe that, along with minorities, lots of decent white people will also turn out in November to vote against Trump. He’s not popular outside his base, which is less than half of GOP voters. If I’m right, the Democratic nominee would win a landslide victory. Even Texas could be in play, depending on the size of the Hispanic turnout.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:09:30am

re: #10 Testy Toad T

The difference is that Hillary just offended part of her base with her remarks, and they’re still really pissed off about it.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:10:20am
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No Depression  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:10:48am

re: #10 Testy Toad T

Remember when Obama made some offhand comment about 57 states and it was the worstest gaffe ever and it sank his presidency?

Yeah, me too.

While I don’t think that her comment will necessarily sink her campaign, whitewashing the Reagan family’s fucked up legacy with AIDs is magnitudes worse than Obama’s gaffe, and I say that as someone who prefers Hillary to Bernie. Her critics on the left will never let her live this down.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:11:34am

re: #15 Skip Intro

The difference is that Hillary just offended part of her base with her remarks, and they’re still really pissed off about it.

The percentage of people who remember even in two weeks can be counted on your fingers.

The ability of the Democratic party, in general, to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory < < < the ability of Democratic voters to freak out about whatever latest thing that portends certain doom.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:11:44am

“Trump” would be a masculine noun (der Trump; the def. article can be used with names colloquially); also, while it’s a derivation from “Drumpf”, if we take it as an English noun “trump”, it is literally translated as “[der] Trumpf”. In both cases the declension is strong. Weak declension is pretty much an exception in German for masculine nouns and “en” appears, as a rule, only with weak declension (there are very few exceptions to this, e.g. Sternenzelt). So it would be Trumpführer or Trump-Führer.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:11:54am

re: #15 Skip Intro

The difference is that Hillary just offended part of her base with her remarks, and they’re still really pissed off about it.

Mostly those that would rather stay mad about the past than move forward. With a candidate that actually has their interests in mind.

And that subset should share a bit of the blame should we get a President Trump.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:12:25am

Lots of Trump eggs showing up in Trump streams on twitter…

I wonder if people are are really fooled into believing them?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:12:50am

re: #20 Great White Snark

Mostly those that would rather stay mad about the past than move forward. With a candidate that actually has their interests in mind.

I was shocked & mad as hell when the statement came out.

Then she apologized for it.

That’s all I need.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:13:37am

re: #19 Nyet

Drumpfkind.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:14:24am

re: #22 Stanley Sea

I was shocked & mad as hell when the statement came out.

Then she apologized for it.

That’s all I need.

Boom. That’s what I’m talkin about. Everyone makes mistakes. Fanatics are unforgiving.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:14:35am

WHY WOULDN’T MY CANDIDATE SHIT ALL OVER A GENERALLY VERY POPULAR FIGURE IN A SPEECH AT THEIR FUNERAL!!!!1

She said something wrong and dumb, she didn’t double down, she didn’t defend it, she said she was wrong and plain apologized. The story is complete. It was complete in, I think, a single day. People here self-select as those who want to sit around and talk politics when we could be outside enjoying a beautiful Saturday.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:14:54am

I reposted that tweet as a reply to The Hill’s original tweet:

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:15:37am

re: #21 freetoken

Lots of Trump eggs showing up in Trump streams on twitter…

I wonder if people are are really fooled into believing them?

The eggs leading the eggs.

Omelet time.

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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:15:54am

re: #17 No Depression

While I don’t think that her comment will necessarily sink her campaign, whitewashing the Reagan family’s fucked up legacy with AIDs is magnitudes worse than Obama’s gaffe, and I say that as someone who prefers Hillary to Bernie. Her critics on the left will never let her live this down.

It’s not like she’s still defending those comments. She’s apologized for getting it wrong. If her critics on the left refuse to accept the apology, that’s no longer her problem. I’m gay and there’s no way that Hillary screwing up on this issue is going to keep me from voting for her when she’s the D candidate this fall.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:16:41am

re: #23 freetoken

Drumpfkind.

My gut feeling says there should be a genitive ‘s’ there: Drumpfskind, although I can’t guarantee it.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:17:26am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:19:11am
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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:20:32am

The idiots just don’t care

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:20:37am

re: #29 Nyet

My gut feeling says there should be a genitive ‘s’ there: Drumpfskind, although I can’t guarantee it.

I don’t know.

In Japanese I would write: ヅルムプフ子

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:21:32am

re: #32 Stanley Sea

The idiots just don’t care

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Worse. They are embracing the fiction for effect. Another marker of fanaticism. It’s important to see the diff imo.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:21:59am

And now, of course, the Stupidest Man on the Internet, Jim Hoft is also going all in on this incorrect identification:

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Jenner7  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:22:53am

I really, really, really can’t wait until the primary is over. I’m getting sick of the every little thing Hillary says being picked apart endlessly. Meanwhile, Bernie praises Castro and ::crickets::. Bernie gaffes about ghettos and ::crickets::.

Sigh.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:23:51am

“Drumpf”, btw, has to be one of the least transliterable words into Japanese.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:24:36am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Page already deleted. That was fast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:24:36am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:24:56am

… it just dawned on me why Trump hates the Japanese so much - they can’t pronounce his name.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:26:14am

re: #37 freetoken

At least it has a vowel. Try Krk.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:27:03am

A poster on a rightwing site claims Trump was grabbed or had something thrown at him at his rally. Did any of you see that?

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:27:13am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

“politicions”

He got the illiterate vote with this.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:27:19am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:27:35am

half hour till the next performance:

LIVE Stream: Donald Trump Rally in Cleveland, OH (3-12-16) LIVE Donald Trump Cleveland Ohio Rally

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:27:54am

re: #38 Nyet

Page already deleted. That was fast.

Nope - still there: thegatewaypundit.com

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:28:24am

Ah! It is deleted. I guess it must have been cached the first time I checked.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:28:25am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

Not found, error 404
The page you are looking for no longer exists. Perhaps you can return back to the site’s homepage and see if you can find what you are looking for. Or, you can try finding it by using the search form below.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:28:44am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Happened to me the other day.

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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:29:02am

re: #42 Big Beautiful Door

A poster on a rightwing site claims Trump was grabbed or had something thrown at him at his rally. Did any of you see that?

No video? It did not happen. With video on our side it still did not happen according to Trumpsters. With video on his side, then I’d just say that is the kind of protester that rightly gets the hustle out and arrested.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:29:46am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:30:05am

Screenshot:

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Jenner7  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:30:53am

There was this. Might have been grabbed by the leg??

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:31:35am

It’s all a joke to the neo-fascist Vox:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:31:48am

re: #22 Stanley Sea

I was shocked & mad as hell when the statement came out.

Then she apologized for it.

That’s all I need.

I remember the AIDS crisis in the early 1980s, because I’d just moved to the Bay Area at the beginning of 1982. It was an increasingly bad time, and the stony silence of the Reagan Administration in the face of the increasing death toll was one of the worst things. There were plenty of people openly saying AIDS ‘killed all the right people’, and for the President to say NOTHING for so many years…

I can understand why LGBT folks who lived through that era, especially gay men, would be FURIOUS with HRC’s misstatement, and I can understand why they might not be completely satisfied by her admission of error and apology.

But yesterday, I read on FB someone claiming this was a CALCULATED statement, to appeal the Republicans - all I can do is shake my head.

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Jenner7  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:31:51am
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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:31:54am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:32:05am
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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:32:20am

re: #53 Jenner7

That eagle must be stalking him.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:34:00am
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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:35:36am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:35:45am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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“You’re no fun anymore!”

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:38:28am
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:39:30am
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nkdee  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:42:03am

Jr. is a nice looking young man. Too bad he has 1) such an ugly soul and 2) such a crappy role model.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:43:34am

re: #61 Nyet

Let the hate flow through you

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Brian J.  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:44:02am

re: #63 FormerDirtDart

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There have been five months in recorded history with temperatures more than 1 Celsius degree above the 1951-80 baseline: October, November, and December of last year and January and February of this year. Might be a trend.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:48:11am
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Great White Snark  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:49:35am

ObserverArt, I gotta run now but did leave a reply to your kindly disagreeing comment downstairs.

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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:54:27am

re: #68 darthstar

LOLed at the cat’s response.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:55:03am

So in Cleveland it looks like an auditorium:

Donald Trump Cleveland Ohio Rally FULL SPEECH HD March 12 2016 2:00 PM EST ✔

Should be “fun” in Trump’s definition of the word.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:55:37am

re: #43 Nyet

“politicions”

He got the illiterate vote with this.

heh, he deleted the tweet and fixed the typo

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:57:57am

Speaker trying to say - ‘look, I’m black and I like Trump, so he’s not a real racist’.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:58:25am

preacher scam

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:58:45am
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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:58:52am

re: #14 Big Beautiful Door

I want to believe that, along with minorities, lots of decent white people will also turn out in November to vote against Trump. He’s not popular outside his base, which is less than half of GOP voters. If I’m right, the Democratic nominee would win a landslide victory. Even Texas could be in play, depending on the size of the Hispanic turnout.

Interestingly, our speaker at our Dem breakfast yesterday was talking about that very issue—political re-alignment. She said there is some evidence that points to non-racist/non-xenophobic (if there are any/) Republicans moving to the Democratic party because of the shitshow being presented by the GOP candidates. She said some researchers refer to them as “NASCAR Dads and Walmart Moms.”

Book she recommended on the history of the issue (originally written in 1973; updated in 1993) :

Dynamics of the Party System: Alignment and Realignment of Political Parties in the United States

the existing party system is likely to be strengthened as public attention is again riveted on domestic economic issues, and the headlong trend of recent decades toward political independence and party disintegration reversed, at least for a time.

Relating to primaries, she also recommended:

The Party Decides

Contrary to the common view that the party reforms of the 1970s gave voters more power, the authors contend that the most consequential contests remain the candidates’ fights for prominent endorsements and the support of various interest groups and state party leaders.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:59:26am

James Woods is also spreading this libelous false accusation:

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 10:59:42am

The number of the “victims of Jihad” grows day by day. Wingnut history has an unpredictable past.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:00:31am

“you are smart intelligent people” - if you have to say that to a crowd so they feel good about themselves then that says a lot.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:01:19am

Wendy is at SXSW on a panel about online harassment. Read Andrea’s feed.

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Nyet  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:02:14am

Wingnut sourcing the the most beautiful sourcing, I promise you. Best!

The official estimate number of Muslim slaughters of Hindus is 80 million. However, Muslim historian Firistha (b. 1570) wrote (in either Tarikh-i Firishta or the Gulshan-i Ibrahim) that Muslims slaughtered over 400 million Hindus up to the peak of Islamic rule of India, bringing the Hindu population down from 600 mil to 200 million at the time.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:02:37am

preacher scam is worse than politician scam

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:03:17am
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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:04:07am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:05:03am

preacher scam illustrates the concept of why most of the Repubs will indeed fall in line behind Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:05:51am

Insults the media right off the bat.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:06:17am

That must be it, I’m jealous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:07:28am

Trump says the protesters are Bernie’s people.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:09:24am

Instagram

Preparing for post-Trump America where everybody is mean and few have grace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:09:30am

In Chicago “we were not allowed to exercise our first amendment rights” because of professional whatevers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:11:10am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:11:56am

Trump Jr. still hasn’t corrected or deleted his tweet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:13:06am

“get em out. get em the hell out”
crowd cheers cussing.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:14:53am

Facebook Post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:16:39am

Irony: Trump trying to slime Kasich for being associated with Lehman when it went bankrupt.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:17:35am

hahaha

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:17:42am

“oil” again….

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:18:28am
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Jenner7  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:19:07am

“get that Bernie person out…”

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Jenner7  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:20:28am

“my people aren’t violent..”

Except that old fart white guy sucker punching a black man…

Except my SS body slamming a journalist….

Except your campaign manager assaulting a journalist…

Except, except, except….

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:20:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:21:53am

MSNBC cuts away from Trump rally to Kasich town hall.
Kasich talking about autism and how autistic people can be just as successful as anyone. Describing steps Ohio has taken to support autistic people as well as the developmentally disabled.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:23:09am
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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:23:27am

re: #101 Charles Johnson

“Statements from the accused are not evidence”

As a lawyer let me just say:

Seriously, that pretty much exactly how testimonial evidence works in court.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:25:07am

re: #104 KGxvi

Just about anything is evidence, except hearsay.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:25:09am

re: #101 Charles Johnson

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See my #51

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:26:38am

re: #98 Charles Johnson

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the same old song-and-dance routine: They know it isn’t true, but they really really really want to believe it, so they choose to reject reality and substitute their own.

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CarolJ  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:26:59am

Kasich is pretty bad, but if worse comes to worse, I don’t think he’d be worse than W, who we did at least survive. Even Romney would be better than Trump at this point. He would be a greedhead, but wouldn’t stir up hatred on such a scale, and might even have been content to be more of a timeserver on some things.

Is it me, or am I seeing on both sides (Bernie) the last angry hurrah of the white guys who remember the 60”s as their peak? If Hillary wins, the next pres will likely be Hispanic, even Asian.

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Jenner7  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:27:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:28:11am
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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:28:55am

re: #108 CarolJ

Is it me, or am I seeing on both sides (Bernie) the last angry hurrah of the white guys who remember the 60”s as their peak?

No telling how many hurrahs they got left in them.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:29:58am

re: #105 thedopefishlives

Just about anything is evidence, except hearsay.

Right. A statement by a party is pretty much the definition of direct evidence. There’s no way it would be inadmissible.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:29:59am

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

For that Trump person they do not have the right image that he wants to present. Oy Vey this is bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:30:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:31:28am
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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:31:34am

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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I guess a tweet from the actual mis-identified person is not acceptable unless it contains a verified copy of an original birth certificate.

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KGxvi  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:32:30am

re: #116 BeachDem

I guess a tweet from the actual mis-identified person is not acceptable unless it contains a verified copy of an original birth certificate.

The original long form birth certificate

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:32:37am
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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:33:33am

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s Aryan looking son says go ahead and vote early.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:33:52am

re: #117 KGxvi

The original long form birth certificate

Over 140 characters!

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CarolJ  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:35:55am

re: #111 wrenchwench Trump is a year older than Hillary and doesn’t look all that healthy. Bernie is 74. Father Time is catching up with them. But more than that, the younger generations are browner and not his kind, so the appeal is less. Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth, the white population was 90%. Now it’s 78% and dropping every year. Trump’s America is an America they never knew much about, and what they have learned make them want it less.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:39:02am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:39:23am
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:39:42am

re: #121 CarolJ

All of them are a bit too old for me, and that is not an ageism thing (I think) but simple fact that a second term is probably out of reach of any of them.

Obama came in as a strapping young man and has aged greatly, as did his predecessor. But both lasted 8 years.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:40:23am

re: #121 CarolJ

Trump is a year older than Hillary and doesn’t look all that healthy. Bernie is 74. Father Time is catching up with them. But more than that, the younger generations are browner and not his kind, so the appeal is less. Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth, the white population was 90%. Now it’s 78% and dropping every year. Trump’s America is an America they never knew much about, and what they have learned make them want it less.

My hubby is 77. He is 12 inside. Does not have any respect for Trump or Sanders. Has a few hurrahs left.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:44:12am

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

MSNBC cuts away from Trump rally to Kasich town hall.
Kasich talking about autism and how autistic people can be just as successful as anyone. Describing steps Ohio has taken to support autistic people as well as the developmentally disabled.

[bigmedia]NO CARES ABOUT THAT!!1! BACK TO TRUMP!1!![/bigmedia]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:46:13am

Trump protesters (two white guys) interviewed outside after they got kicked out.
One guy said, as he was being escorted out, a Trump supporter stomped his foot, pushed him forward and punched him in the ribs. The security person escorting them out got between the guy and the Trump supporter to stop a further attack.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:46:13am

[…]

She said she hopes to focus on issues rather than attacks directed at Allen. “I’m trying to avoid bashing her — I really do feel that I’m a great candidate: I think she is going to have a hard time winning the moderate vote. Her politics have shown extremism. What I’d like to see change in the Legislature as a whole. That would be a shift that would be really beneficial. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years and I don’t think for the better.”

[…]

Bagley would be a big improvement!

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:46:26am

So much for that… nothing new.

But wait, there’s still more to come, in 4 hours in Kansas City:

LIVE Donald Trump Kansas City Missouri Rally at Arvest Bank Theatre at The Midland (3-12-16)

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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:49:12am

re: #119 Skip Intro

Trump’s Aryan looking son says go ahead and vote early.

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Trump and Romney sons bear a striking resemblance (perhaps it’s the universal look of over-privileged assholes) and they also share a propensity for saying/doing/tweeting idiotic shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:51:06am

heh

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:51:33am
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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:51:51am

re: #130 BeachDem

It’s the look of people who were made executive vice presidents at the age of 12 and think they earned it all by themselves.

Remember back when The Apprentice needed new “advisers”? Trump searched far and wide for the best of the best and ended up hiring his son and daughter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:58:31am

(Kristen Sze deleted the tweets)

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2016 • 11:59:26am

re: #1 Skip Intro

Meanwhile over in Hillaryland,

esquire.com

Hillary is showing us that she hasn’t lost her touch for pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory yet again.

I love it when people react this way. You know, the kind of people that think that Clinton saying something that she finds out wrong later is somehow equivalent to inciting violence.

You know why this is snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory? Because people that should no better react to the wrong thing.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:03:38pm

Man jumps barrier at around the 10 second mark…

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:03:50pm

re: #135 Belafon

Tell that to the Berniebros.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:05:06pm

re: #136 FormerDirtDart

Man jumps barrier at around the 10 second mark…

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Trump needs a mosh pit.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:06:31pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

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Says the guy who is actively inciting his followers to violence.

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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:06:40pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

Tell that to the Berniebros.

The berniebros can go simmer in their own juices.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:06:48pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

Tell that to the Berniebros.

The Berniebros can go fornicate with themselves. That pack of spoiled children is beneath contempt at this point, especially the ones who are suggesting they’ll vote for Trump in “protest.”

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:08:55pm

How does everyone think Hillary is going to do in a “debate” with Trump when he does the Gish Gallop, telling 20 lies a minute? How do you deflect something like that, because we all know that’s exactly what he’s going to do?

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:09:25pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

Tell that to the Berniebros.

Bernie Bros can suck it.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:10:24pm

Winning an election, how does that work?

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:10:29pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

Hillary is going to have a hard time. The easiest way to deal with Trump is not to do it yourself but have surrogates do it for you, but the real weakness of Trump is his own thin skin.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:10:40pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

How many ways can a person bend to keep from having to say they’re wrong?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:11:40pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

How does everyone think Hillary is going to do in a “debate” with Trump when he does the Gish Gallop, telling 20 lies a minute? How do you deflect something like that, because we all know that’s exactly what he’s going to do?

How else do you deal with it? You call it what it is, you make a salient point, and you move on.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:11:47pm

for you WW (ewe)

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:12:17pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

How does everyone think Hillary is going to do in a “debate” with Trump when he does the Gish Gallop, telling 20 lies a minute? How do you deflect something like that, because we all know that’s exactly what he’s going to do?

Simple: Needle his ass until he says or does something stupid. Which, knowing Trump, shouldn’t be that hard.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:12:57pm
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:14:52pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

Unfortunately Trump supporters don’t seem to care whether Trump is accurate or if what he says is down right harmful.

That’s because Trump is culturing loyalty over anything else.

If you listen to what he actually says, Trump’s main theme is how people treat him. To Trump this is about him, and how people relate to him.

Trumpiots are such not because of facts, but because they have bought the idea that their loyalty will be rewarded.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:16:46pm
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sagehen  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:17:47pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

How does everyone think Hillary is going to do in a “debate” with Trump when he does the Gish Gallop, telling 20 lies a minute? How do you deflect something like that, because we all know that’s exactly what he’s going to do?

You say “wow, 11 lies in under 2 minutes. That’s got to be some kind of a record. Unfortunately, my rebuttal time is only enough to address two of the most egregious, those being…”

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:18:10pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

Tell that to the Berniebros.

Well, on this site, I’ve seen “astonishingly bad” used to describe her statement. And this from Pierce:

What Hillary Rodham Clinton said about the Reagans and AIDS is actually worse history than anything said at the GOP debate Thursday night

I mean, it’s really worse than Trump calling for the laws to be changed so that torture is legal?

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:18:33pm

re: #151 freetoken

Unfortunately Trump supporters don’t seem to care whether Trump is accurate or if what he says is down right harmful.

That’s because Trump is culturing loyalty over anything else.

If you listen to what he actually says, Trump’s main theme is how people treat him. To Trump this is about him, and how people relate to him.

Trumpiots are such not because of facts, but because they have bought the idea that their loyalty will be rewarded.

True, but his base is largely angry white men who are increasingly a smaller and smaller slice of the overall voter pie. He’s turning off women, he’s turning off minorities, he’s turning off the LGBT crowd, turning off Muslims, etc, etc. You could see his (and even Bernie’s) popularity as a result of the increasing panic amongst the older and white demographics that the control of the country and its future are slipping away from them. Trump’s only real hope at this point is to drive down voter turnout to the point that his supporters overwhelm the anger and resentment of those groups he’s going out of his way to piss off.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:19:32pm

trump already claiming that florida primary is being conducted dishonestly

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:20:42pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

How does everyone think Hillary is going to do in a “debate” with Trump when he does the Gish Gallop, telling 20 lies a minute? How do you deflect something like that, because we all know that’s exactly what he’s going to do?

Most of the debates are answers to questions from a moderator. When she does have to respond to him, it should include something about measuring up to his father. He’ll lose it.

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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:20:55pm

re: #156 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump already claiming that florida primary is being conducted dishonestly

We need to document this well because it’s exactly what he’s going to do if he makes it to the general election.

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bratwurst  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:22:46pm
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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:23:20pm

re: #136 FormerDirtDart

The audio from the crowd is chilling

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:24:25pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

How does everyone think Hillary is going to do in a “debate” with Trump when he does the Gish Gallop, telling 20 lies a minute? How do you deflect something like that, because we all know that’s exactly what he’s going to do?

scoring points on facts and logic aint gonna make an impression. she has to dismiss him in general as a Big Talker who makes a lot of empty promises and lies like a rug

“yeah, sure, i could stand up here and make a lot of empty promises about how i’ll fix everything, it’ll be great - but for some reason i just can’t tell you how!”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:26:29pm
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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:27:10pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth
Sasha Obama Met Ryan Reynolds and It Was AdorableLink

Sasha Obama was all smiles when she met actor Ryan Reynolds at a state dinner on Thursday—and Malia Obama responded as only a sister could, giving her an encouraging, if slightly sarcastic, thumbs-up in the background.

Reynolds, who stars in Deadpool, attended the dinner with wife Blake Lively.

It was the first state dinner for President Barack Obama’s daughters, who were featured prominently in the speeches given by their father and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:29:16pm
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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:30:54pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

His crowds still have plenty of women, albeit perhaps fewer then men.

Trump will find followers everywhere.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:31:31pm
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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:31:57pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:32:50pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

He probably has that many guns in his basement.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:33:02pm

re: #167 jaunte

It’ll be interesting to see how that statement plays out.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:34:41pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

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I’d probably do that to someone as a prank.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:34:53pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

That is just way too many lawn signs. If I did that in my neighborhood my front lawn would be mud within an hour.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:35:30pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

Very Teutonic.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:35:32pm

re: #170 thedopefishlives

Quite possible. That may be the case.

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bratwurst  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:36:09pm

A great leader of men is checking in on the situation today:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:36:42pm

That jackass @Runspired blocked me. How will I find the strength to carry on?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:37:29pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

That jackass @Runspired blocked me. How will I find the strength to carry on?

There, there. I’ve got cookies.

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freetoken  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:37:45pm

re: #174 bratwurst

Orange goes well with green.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:38:30pm

re: #166 Stanley Sea

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He’s apparently giving out signs based on the mini-billboard on the right.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:38:32pm
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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:38:53pm

re: #163 Ming5000

Sasha Obama Met Ryan Reynolds and It Was AdorableLink

And Blake Lively wore a bathrobe. Sigh.


Ralph & Russo Fluid Silver Double Satin Robe with Cutout Shoulders

Come on. That’s a bathrobe. A tacky one. With holes in it.

tomandlorenzo.com

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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:40:01pm

re: #174 bratwurst

A great leader of men is checking in on the situation today:

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But he’s going to ruin his white shoes!

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:40:45pm

re: #4 stpaulbear

Umm, it was a bad mistake, but it’s extreme hyperbole to say that this will wreck her candidacy.

If you are already predestined to not like Hillary this is the biggest mistake ever. Pack another bag.

I heard a radio commercial from the Ohio Nurses Association. They said: Bernie was going to make college free. They said he was going to give us single payer health coverage. They did not say he was going to work to get it done, they didn’t say that was his goal implying it may not happen but he would do everything he could to see it through. No…the message was simple. Vote Bernie Sanders and it is all a done deal.

Maybe it is just me, but allowing commercials like that may be a whole lot dumber politically than Hillary’s comment about the Reagans and AIDS. But if you like Bernie it is acceptable.

Sure, I wish she hadn’t said it. She’s been on the road doing all these campaigns rallys, townhalls and debates. Maybe for a moment she was a human that in a tired state chose a bad way to say something she may not have really intended.

Bern her at the cross. Bad Hillary!

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:41:26pm

re: #180 BeachDem

And Mrs. Fish was whining to me yesterday about not wanting to go out because she was in her bathrobe. Apparently it’s fashionable now.///

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Ming5000  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:42:40pm

re: #180 BeachDem

And Blake Lively wore a bathrobe. Sigh.

I miss Joan Rivers

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:44:36pm

re: #184 Ming5000

Me too. I am sure she would have quite few words for the fashion of the season as well as the politics.

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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:44:38pm

re: #183 thedopefishlives

And Mrs. Fish was whining to me yesterday about not wanting to go out because she was in her bathrobe. Apparently it’s fashionable now.///

But be sure to pin it badly and let yer Spanx peep out.//

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nines09  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:45:55pm

re: #174 bratwurst

A great leader of men is checking in on the situation today:

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That picture would be perfect if there was a 9 Iron shoved up his ass.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:46:27pm
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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:46:39pm

re: #182 ObserverArt

If you are already predestined to not like Hillary this is the biggest mistake ever. Pack another bag.

I heard a radio commercial from the Ohio Nurses Association. They said: Bernie was going to make college free. They said he was going to give us single payer health coverage. They did not say he was going to work to get it done, they didn’t say that was his goal implying it may not happen but he would do everything he could to see it through. No…the message was simple. Vote Bernie Sanders and it is all a done deal.

Maybe it is just me, but allowing commercials like that may be a whole lot dumber politically than Hillary’s comment about the Reagans and AIDS. But if you like Bernie it is acceptable.

Sure, I wish she hadn’t said it. She’s been on the road doing all these campaigns rallys, townhalls and debates. Maybe for a moment she was a human that in a tired state chose a bad way to say something she may not have really intended.

Bern her at the cross. Bad Hillary!

It was a pretty dumb thing to say, but it certainly wasn’t malicious. She fucked up. She got it wrong. She apologized. I don’t know what more she can do. (BTW—I’m agreeing with you ;)

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:48:22pm

re: #53 Jenner7

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There was this. Might have been grabbed by the leg??

Shoot. Trump had his big chance to punch the guy that was trying to get up on the podium like they used to do in the old days. Instead he freaked out like a scared cat.

Big Man Trump. Pfft.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:48:22pm

re: #188 jaunte

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He’s got that “in a van…down by…the river” cadence and intonation.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:52:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:54:22pm

re: #182 ObserverArt

Hillary mistakenly said something nice about a dead woman.
teh horror….

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philosophus invidius  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:54:55pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 12:57:23pm

re: #190 ObserverArt

Please keep in mind that Frank Rizzo still has many people who like him as well as hate him to this day. This incident happened during a debate. I cannot find a video of it but quite a few years ago a protester rushed the stage in Philly and on that stage was Frank Rizzo. He grabbed the protester and started to escort him off the stage and got choked by his microphone.

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philosophus invidius  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:00:34pm

re: #192 Charles Johnson

Sometimes it seems that the most popular tweet from the right is “This tweet is not available.”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:01:38pm

Wow. These fucking weasels.

Breitbart Editor Ordered Staffers To Stop Defending Michelle Fields

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:02:05pm

re: #196 philosophus invidius

They tweet before they think about it.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:03:23pm

“There is nothing worth saying in haste…”
Yeah, coming from the editor of Breitbart…

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:04:37pm

re: #157 Belafon

Most of the debates are answers to questions from a moderator. When she does have to respond to him, it should include something about measuring up to his father. He’ll lose it.

If she’s going to bring up his dad, she should say that in fact he *does* measure up to his dad. The dad who was arrested at a KKK rally in 1927.

And that Woody Guthrie wrote a “Trump is a racist landlord” song.

Then there’s the 1970’s DoJ housing discrimination suits…

vice.com

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philosophus invidius  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:05:43pm

re: #200 sagehen

“The good old days”

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:12:02pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Wow. These fucking weasels.

Breitbart Editor Ordered Staffers To Stop Defending Michelle Fields

No honor among thieves.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:14:47pm

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Wow. These fucking weasels.

Breitbart Editor Ordered Staffers To Stop Defending Michelle Fields

Way to stand up for your employees, there Pollak!

But more broadly, this is one of the problems of Conservatives working in a field that Conservatives don’t respect - even your boss won’t respect you.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:22:16pm

Breitbart is a cesspool of the darkest political hackery.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:23:18pm

Heh, douchehydrants.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:24:07pm

re: #204 SoundGuy 2016

Breitbart is a cesspool of the darkest political hackery.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:24:59pm

if trump is shut down and complaining because of a few thousand protesters, what good is his claim to be a tough guy?

there is no crying in baseball

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:25:23pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

James Woods is also spreading this libelous false accusation:

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I have learned why James Wood was so good in the made for TV movie Citizen Cohn, about lawyer Roy Cohn the right hand man to Joe McCarthy.

He didn’t have to act.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:26:55pm

who knew it would be so easy to scare trump and his supporters?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:28:00pm

20K in a hangar in Dayton? LOLOLOL
And Cleveland PD estimated the crowd in Cleveland at 10K.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:29:28pm

re: #209 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

who knew it would be so easy to scare trump and his supporters?

Come on, they’ve made their fear of the “colored” pretty obvious from the get go.

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philosophus invidius  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:29:58pm

re: #207 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

if trump is shut down and complaining because of a few thousand protesters, what good is his claim to be a tough guy?

there is no crying in baseball

Tough guy Trump reaches for mommy:

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:32:05pm

re: #212 philosophus invidius

SQUIRREL!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:32:35pm

re: #212 philosophus invidius

He spooks easily.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:32:51pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Irony: Trump trying to slime Kasich for being associated with Lehman when it went bankrupt.

We are getting a lot of Trump commercials against Kasich here in Columbus the last few days. They makes this and allowing Obamacare Medicaid big points. Cheap commercials too. Very low energy and not great.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:33:25pm

Would it be possible to petition the FEC to forcibly suspend Drumpf’s campaign until he stops inciting violence? I understand the FEC is mostly focused on finance, but I can’t think of another agency that might have such power.

The list of incidents is growing and somebody is going to be dead by the end of the month if this keeps up, and Vulgar Talking Yam is not getting the fucking message.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:33:27pm

re: #188 jaunte

Just two guys having a polite discussion about Nazi Germany

And, the conversation continues…

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:34:57pm

Breitbart is heavily invested in a narrative of mainstream media conspiracy and narratives… and they get busted pushing one themselves.

I would call them clowns if they weren’t so damn mendacious. So I’ll call them Mendacious Clowns. Not the fun circus kind, more the the evil nightmare clown kind.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:35:02pm

Two words that should the fear into Donald Trump: “Forensic Audit”.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:38:33pm

re: #219 Eric The Fruit Bat

Two words that should the fear into Donald Trump: “Forensic Audit”.

I imagine that will be Hillary’s respond to any hits he tries on her about her emails, “The FBI may be interested in my emails, but I’m not being audited every year by the IRS.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:39:26pm

re: #219 Eric The Fruit Bat

Two words that should the fear into Donald Trump: “Forensic Audit”.

Needs a verb.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:39:32pm

re: #220 Targetpractice

I imagine that will be Hillary’s respond to any hits he tries on her about her emails, “The FBI may be interested in my emails, but I’m not being audited every year by the IRS.”

That’s because Hillary owns the IRS…
//////////////////////

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:40:09pm

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

“put” Does that work?

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:40:31pm

Yes, the IRS was used to torment conservatives.

But what government entity hasn’t been used to torment them?

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:43:18pm

I’ll just leave this right here:

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:43:59pm

66% of the vote in at today’s iteration of the Wyoming Caucus (delegates from Congressional Districts awarded), Cruz @ 59%, Rubio 26%, Uncommitted 9%, Trump 6%, Kasich 0%

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:45:13pm

re: #225 SoundGuy 2016

Very interesting concept.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:52:33pm

re: #225 SoundGuy 2016

I’ll just leave this right here:

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The fork on that scooter is turned around backwards (among other problems…)

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:52:52pm
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philosophus invidius  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:53:20pm
Ms. Peterson, who was born in West Berlin in 1946 and became an American citizen in 1982, said she took offense to the comparison of Mr. Trump to Hitler.

“They said Trump is a second Hitler,” Ms. Peterson said. “I said do you know what that sign stands for? Do you know who Hitler really was?”

“I make the point that they are demonstrating something they had no knowledge about,” she said. “If you want to do it right, you do it right. You don’t know what you are doing.”

That is when she made the Nazi salute — a gesture that is banned in Germany — as a form of counterprotest. But that is all it was, she said.

“Absolutely I’m not a Nazi, no,” she said. “I’m not one of those.”

nytimes.com

Sounds like a reasonable response to the situation.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:58:04pm

re: #230 philosophus invidius

nytimes.com

That’s about as asinine as waving around the Confederate flag and, when challenged about it, declaring it’s not a symbol of racism but “heritage.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:59:13pm

re: #142 Skip Intro

How does everyone think Hillary is going to do in a “debate” with Trump when he does the Gish Gallop, telling 20 lies a minute? How do you deflect something like that, because we all know that’s exactly what he’s going to do?

I think she will do fine. She had some ‘galloping’ coming at her in the BENGHAZI hearings from some of the Reps that didn’t ask questions so much as run a list of all the things she did wrong and what she should have done right.

She didn’t flinch and she let them do their thing and then answered. You can’t let them frustrate you and cause you to try to answer it all.

Have you heard anything about BENGHAZI from the Gowdy committee lately?

You pick a solid comeback that answers in a general way and let them get frustrated. And you also educate.

I’d turn to Trump and the audience and say “Ladies and Gentlemen what you have just heard is commonly called a Gish Gallop. It is the tool of someone who doesn’t want to debate, they want to paint with slime. Check it out on the web and see what kind of a mental weakling would use such a tactic. We don’t have time to answer such hogwash at this important time.”

“If Mr. Trump wants to debate about actual points one at a time we can. We don’t need this ranting that doesn’t allow for proper answers from me.”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 12, 2016 • 1:59:15pm

re: #230 philosophus invidius

Her life as she knew it before needs to be over.

She needs to be shunned and ostracized from society. She sides with one who would persecute those who are minorities in the US.

I understand perfectly what Trump is doing. It is at the least Fascism, and may go as far being Proto-Nazi.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:01:26pm

re: #219 Eric The Fruit Bat

Two words that should the fear into Donald Trump: “Forensic Audit”.

Reminds me of a story. A mental hospital thought to be involved with large scale fraud was raided and a huge compliment of FBI agents and forensic accountants swept in to make sure that all the paperwork and files could be secured simultaneously. After pouring over the information for hours they decided to order pizza for all the agents so they could eat but keep on working.

They placed an order for like 40 19 pizzas, but when they told the pizzeria to deliver them to the mental hospital, the pizza guy balked. The FBI on the line said, “It’s OK. I’m an FBI agent. We’re all FBI agents.”

The response? *click*

And yes, the FBI men did get their pizzas, but the food was not delivered to the hospital — several agents had to drive over to the restaurant and pick up their pies.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:04:08pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:05:54pm

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

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“Go back to Africa,” the mating call of the Racist Dickhead.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:06:00pm

Duty calls…
My DOG overlords must be walked…,

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:06:24pm

Your daily dose of Gus:

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No Depression  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:08:47pm

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

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I probably would’ve been tempted to tell him to go back to Europe, but that would be cruel. Poor guy wouldn’t have been able to find it on a map.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:13:43pm

Just posted a page on DST coming back. We loose an hour of sleep to gain an hour of sunshine. littlegreenfootballs.com

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Lidane  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:22:36pm

Watching the madness surrounding Trump, it’s obvious the GOP has to put up or shut up at their convention. Are they going to be the party that openly aligns themselves with this dangerous carnival barker and his zoo of supporters or are they going to find their spine and say that they’re not?

I’m already seeing people at work tag their own FB and Twitter posts with #NeverTrump if he’s the nominee. I suspect that most who are doing that now will leave the Presidential vote blank and just vote for the downticket races, but I know that at least one VP told me she could be persuaded to hold her nose and vote Hillary because she’d rather have a liar that can govern over a dangerous charlatan who’d give ISIS and our enemies free propaganda every time he opens his mouth.

It’s going to be a loooooong march to the RNC.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:23:02pm

re: #235 FormerDirtDart

tonydokoupil ‎@tonydokoupil

“Go back to Africa,” suggests camo-clad Trump supporter. Video:
3:59 PM - 12 Mar 2016

1,099 1,099 Retweets 444 444 likes

I wonder what Bubba would say if the African American he was yelling at had family history that went all the way back to Africa say into the 1700s when their people were forced to come to America as slaves. And I’d wager his people that came from Europe might have come to America as recently as the early 20th Century and walked right in.

It’s all probably a little too much for a pin head to process while he is in a rage. Sad thing is, he probably spends a lot of time in a rage and not thinking.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:28:11pm

re: #238 wrenchwench

Your daily dose of Gus:

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Is there any documentation that shows Koch, Rove, LaPierre and others directly involved with Sanders? I’m not doubting Gus, just looking for ammo.

And not to attack Bernie so much as to have a handle on how some may be using these people to fight off Hillary which shows she may be a lot stronger a candidate than some think and that Bernie may be getting in bad with Big Bad to keep in this thing.

If this is all true it is very sad…and revealing.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:30:00pm

re: #243 ObserverArt

Is there any documentation that shows Koch, Rove, LaPierre and others directly involved with Sanders? I’m not doubting Gus, just looking for ammo.

And not to attack Bernie so much as to have a handle on how some may be using these people to fight off Hillary which shows she may be a lot stronger a candidate than some think and that Bernie may be getting in bad with Big Bad to keep in this thing.

If this is all true it is very sad…and revealing.

Go ask Gus. I don’t think he’d assert it without evidence, but I didn’t see it.

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Tigger2  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:30:07pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:30:11pm

re: #241 Lidane

Watching the madness surrounding Trump, it’s obvious the GOP has to put up or shut up at their convention. Are they going to be the party that openly aligns themselves with this dangerous carnival barker and his zoo of supporters or are they going to find their spine and say that they’re not?

They’re still trying to win back Trump voters by painting Trump as a false flag and/or No True Conservative.

Which suggests two things: one, there will come a moment where the people who want to win—because, dammit, they have policy they want to shove through—will bend the knee; two, the attempt to cast out Trump will involve trying to sell his bloc off-brand Trump.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:30:17pm

Living in exile in Paris while studying the Kamasutra with communists, Mickey now plans a return to his native country. Obama’s presidency has again made this country a haven for sexually depraved, french-speaking, commie-pinkos…. at least that is what Mickey has read in some blogs. Plus, he thinks Euro-Disney blows.//

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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:30:43pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:32:46pm

re: #244 wrenchwench

Go ask Gus. I don’t think he’d assert it without evidence, but I didn’t see it.

I don’t Tweet. I wish he was here so I could.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:32:46pm
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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:33:11pm

re: #243 ObserverArt

Is there any documentation that shows Koch, Rove, LaPierre and others directly involved with Sanders? I’m not doubting Gus, just looking for ammo.

And not to attack Bernie so much as to have a handle on how some may be using these people to fight off Hillary which shows she may be a lot stronger a candidate than some think and that Bernie may be getting in bad with Big Bad to keep in this thing.

If this is all true it is very sad…and revealing.

I don’t think he’s saying that they’re directly involved with Sanders—but that the things they’re saying/writing are helping Sanders (and/or hurting Hillary.)

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:34:49pm

re: #249 ObserverArt

I don’t Tweet. I wish he was here so I could.

Or you could Tweet.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:35:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:35:05pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:35:33pm

re: #251 BeachDem

I don’t think he’s saying that they’re directly involved with Sanders—but that the things they’re saying/writing are helping Sanders (and/or hurting Hillary.)

Maybe that is it. Oh well. You never know with politics. What is that phrase about strange bedfellows?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:35:48pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

She’s getting thrown under the bus. Is the Breitbart gang in the tank for El Trumpador, then?

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:37:40pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

Or you could Tweet.

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No thank you. I can live without it. And I’ll get by not knowing to what extent Gus was going with that list. All things usually reveal themselves eventually.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:39:24pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

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So they’re throwing their own reporter under the bus just to cover for Trump.

Andy would be so proud.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:41:41pm

re: #258 Targetpractice

So they’re throwing their own reporter under the bus just to cover for Trump.

Andy would be so proud.

See my #256. Great minds, etc., etc. I suppose that also answers my question.

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CleverToad  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:43:45pm

re: #233 Ziggy_TARDIS

Her life as she knew it before needs to be over.

She needs to be shunned and ostracized from society. She sides with one who would persecute those who are minorities in the US.

I understand perfectly what Trump is doing. It is at the least Fascism, and may go as far being Proto-Nazi.

I try not to downding, but no. Please don’t echo the behavior that you’re condemning.

Letting yourself give into the rage hurts you

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Lidane  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:44:14pm

re: #258 Targetpractice

So they’re throwing their own reporter under the bus just to cover for Trump.

Andy would be so proud.

Oh yeah. They’re openly gaslighting her. It’s been amazing and instructive to watch and not in a good way.

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stpaulbear  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:44:39pm

re: #257 ObserverArt

No thank you. I can live without it. And I’ll get by not knowing to what extent Gus was going with that list. All things usually reveal themselves eventually.

I know that there was a tweet by Wayne LaPierre/NRA thanking Bernie for his support. I saw it here in one of the Dem debate threads or one of the next morning threads. Sorry that’s not a lot of help, but I know that it’s here somewhere.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:45:48pm

re: #239 No Depression

Like too many Americans to him the rest of the world is as fictional as Narnia.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2016 • 2:58:54pm

But in an interview on Saturday from her home in Yorkville, Ill., Birgitt Peterson, 69, who says she was the woman in the photo, explained why she had made the salute.

She and her husband, Don, had attended the rally to check out the candidate in person. “The Republican Party needs to be broken up, and I believe Donald Trump is the one to do it,” Ms. Peterson said.

After the rally was canceled, the Petersons found themselves in the middle of a group of protesters, some of whom they described as “rude.” One was holding a poster with a picture of Adolf Hitler on it.

Ms. Peterson, who was born in West Berlin in 1946 and became an American citizen in 1982, said she took offense to the comparison of Mr. Trump to Hitler.

“They said Trump is a second Hitler,” Ms. Peterson said. “I said do you know what that sign stands for? Do you know who Hitler really was?”

“I make the point that they are demonstrating something they had no knowledge about,” she said. “If you want to do it right, you do it right. You don’t know what you are doing.”

That is when she made the Nazi salute — a gesture that is banned in Germany — as a form of counterprotest. But that is all it was, she said.

Peterson is a self indulgent fool. Eva Schloss knows who Hitler really was, because she survived Auschwitz, and she said Trump is acting like Hitler. I’ll take Eva’s word on the matter over some German Trump supporter who thinks whipping out a Nazi salute is a cogent way of punctuating her argument.

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Shimshon  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:21:53pm

re: #1 Skip Intro

Meanwhile over in Hillaryland,

esquire.com

Hillary is showing us that she hasn’t lost her touch for pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory yet again.

You usurp this story to make everyone talk about Hillary instead? That’s just sad.

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Shimshon  Mar 12, 2016 • 6:24:55pm

re: #224 SoundGuy 2016

Yes, the IRS was used to torment conservatives.

But what government entity hasn’t been used to torment them?

That is not what happened, and the Republican led House investigations also found nothing. You are totally wrong and should stop repeating a lie like this.

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Lancelot Link  Mar 12, 2016 • 8:14:10pm

re: #243 ObserverArt

Is there any documentation that shows Koch, Rove, LaPierre and others directly involved with Sanders? I’m not doubting Gus, just looking for ammo

LaPierre & Sanders


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