On Facebook, Chuck C. Johnson Poses With Guns, Threatens to Shoot Trump Protesters

An open threat to murder people who protest against Donald Trump
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Discredited right wing troll Chuck C. Johnson has been preening and boasting on his Facebook page recently after Donald Trump’s campaign manager linked to his disgusting misogynistic attack on Breitbart reporter Michelle Fields. He’s so pumped up and full of himself that yesterday he posted an open threat to shoot protesters at Trump’s rallies — then quickly deleted it, probably because he realized he’d crossed a big red line this time.

But he didn’t delete it quickly enough to prevent me from getting a screenshot:

Notice: the clown in the middle is pointing his rifle directly at Chuck’s right knee.

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273 comments
1
Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:05:03pm

A Few Good Morons.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:08:55pm

Three more recruits for the Trumpabteilung.

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Jenner7  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:09:01pm

Sorry to go OT, but I’m watching Mississippi Burning and the head of the KKK was asked by the media if he is the leader of the KKK, his response:

I told you, I’m a businessman. I’m also a Mississippian, and an American! And I’m getting SICK and TIRED of the way us Mississippians are getting our views distorted by you newsmen and on the TV. So let’s get this straight. We do NOT accept Jews, because they REJECT Christ! And their control over the International Banking Cartels are at the root of what we call Communism today. We do not accept Papists, because they bow to a Roman dictator! We do not accept Turks, Mongrels, Tartars, Orientals nor Negroes because we are here to protect Anglo-Saxon Democracy, and the American way!

How close was that to Donald Trump today?

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:09:10pm

Trump town hall in Cincinnati suburbs:

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:09:40pm

It’s the Alex Jones candidacy.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:10:52pm

Every day conservatives prove that we need wholesale changes in the 2A and greater restrictions for firearm ownership. Please note, I say this as USN veteran AND as a firearm owner. If our politicians had the balls AND common sense, they would dismantle the 2A and start all over. I’m sick of these ammosexual gun fetishists using their firearms as objects of intimidation and political theatre. The gun humpers are “adults” who have the maturity of children while possessing objects that are capable of doing immeasurable harm. Our Founders were not gods. They were human and as such they were flawed. By extension, the 2A is flawed.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:11:46pm

re: #3 Jenner7

Sorry to go OT, but I’m watching Mississippi Burning and the head of the KKK was asked by the media if he is the leader of the KKK, his response:

How close was that to Donald Trump today?

Too grammatical, too coherent, too many complete sentences.

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JasonA  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:13:53pm

Tom Clancy’s The Duhvision

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:14:22pm

re: #4 jaunte

You know, like how a bill becomes a law, how supreme court justices are appointed. Little details like that.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:21:28pm

Ann Coulter, standing up for he fellow conservative female journalist? Of course not.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:23:02pm

I’ve seen how well he shoots. Nobody needs to worry.

Protip, Chucksie: Try keeping your eyes open.

I’m also wondering what kind of doofus puts a cheap-ass bipod on an AR that has no provision for optics. Something something idiots and their money…

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:23:13pm

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

Mayebe before running for president, @realdonaldtrump should have learned how the government actaully works.

He’ll learn what he needs know on the job.

No, really.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:26:34pm

re: #4 jaunte

Trump town hall in Cincinnati suburbs:

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O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:26:58pm
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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:28:36pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

Ann Coulter, standing up for he fellow conservative female journalist? Of course not.

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Has anyone clicked through to see what this ‘new video’ shows?

(I ain’t doin’ it.)

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:30:16pm

Me neither.

Coulter was allegedly an attorney. Hypothetically, she knows what “assault” actually is.

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William of Orange  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:30:57pm

He’s fishing for reactions but I’m not biting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:32:54pm

meanwhile in Florida:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:33:02pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

Ann Coulter, standing up for he fellow conservative female journalist? Of course not.

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Coulter does not want other women journalists getting attention. She can’t compete anymore.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:36:24pm

I’ll bet a lot of Trump supporters are into model railroad building.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:41:54pm

re: #20 Barefoot Grin

I find that pretty unlikely.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:44:09pm
Notice: the clown in the middle is pointing his rifle directly at Chuck’s right knee.

I’d LOL if the Furby got his beard caught in the bolt when he actually tried to fire that AR.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:44:35pm

re: #21 Le Lapin Tueur

I find that pretty unlikely.

It’s a stereotypically ASD hobby. I don’t think ASD and Trumpism are correlated.

(Confession - from the age of 2 to the age of 6, The Older Boy was ABSOLUTELY OBSESSED with trains, especially, of course, steam engines.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:45:45pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:45:54pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel

I’d LOL if the Furby got his beard caught in the bolt when he actually tried to fire that AR.

You think he’d bother holding it as intended and using the sights? I figure him more for a Rambo wannabe, who’ll hold it down low and spray.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:46:40pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Florida:

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So much for the 1st Amendment. I guess we are going to get “free speech zones” again?

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Tigger2  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:47:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:48:45pm

re: #27 Tigger2

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Why, you…!

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:49:22pm

OT: Trump supporter makes physical threats to Jim Wright. Wright, in return, provides his home address and offers to have someone pick him up at the airport.

Wright has way too much fun winding these morons’ watches.

Facebook Post

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:49:46pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:51:16pm

not going to be intimidated by thugs

but he wont actually show up himself

these big talking trump supporters sure do scare pretty easy

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:51:31pm

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’ve seen how well he shoots. Nobody needs to worry.

Protip, Chucksie: Try keeping your eyes open.

I’m also wondering what kind of doofus puts a cheap-ass bipod on an AR that has no provision for optics. Something something idiots and their money…

Same sort who buys a 100 dollar Yugoslav SKS and installs a 150 dollar molded plastic retractable stock and one those crazy extended lip 40 round mags in lieu of the integral 10 round mag the rifle was meant to have. Pretty much looks like what the genius in the middle has done.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:52:54pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:54:45pm

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

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OMG I have got to get me that Boca Raton palm camoflage button up shirt and some dumpy old man shorts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:55:08pm

re: #29 makeitstop

OT: Trump supporter makes physical threats to Jim Wright. Wright, in return, provides his home address and offers to have someone pick him up at the airport.

Wright has way too much fun winding these morons’ watches.

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That address is the FBI office in Anchorage.
:D

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:56:20pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

That address is the FBI office in Anchorage.
:D

He told the goon he’d ‘have it tatoo’ed on his mom’s back.’

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:56:21pm

RedStaters are bending their minds around supporting Trump if he is the nominee.

Trump is merely distasteful. Hillary Clinton is a profound danger. Donald Trump is a self correcting problem. He will be a weak and isolated president who will either not run in 2020, he will be 73, or will be extremely vulnerable to a primary challenge. If Hillary is elected she is an eight year problem, she will lead a unified Democrat party and if she wins in 2016 she will bring a Democrat Senate in with her. Everyone has to make their own decision in these things, but Ted Cruz, I think, gets it and is completely correct. We need to do whatever we can to help Cruz win the nomination but, if that fails, we should support the eventual nominee.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:58:14pm

Walter Mondale says nature of GOP debate leaves him aghast

Naturally, this is attracting a lot of ridicule and abuse from freepers and the other usual suspects.
Worth noting: Unlike Trump, LImbaugh, Nugent and a host of other conservative luminaries, Mr. Mondale did serve in the US armed forces. He was an enlisted soldier during the Korean War and did not go overseas, but obviously he could have been sent at any time. He used the GI Bill to go to law school and the rest, as they say, is history.

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Tigger2  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:59:03pm

re: #37 Ming5000

RedStaters are bending their minds around supporting Trump if he is the nominee.

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“If Hillary is elected she is an eight year problem, she will lead a unified Democrat party and if she wins in 2016 she will bring a Democrat Senate in with her.”

This is what I hope happens.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:59:11pm

re: #37 Ming5000

RedStaters are bending their minds around supporting Trump if he is the nominee.

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The base will fall in line.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:59:45pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Obviously he wants to go to one of the hardest hit rust belt victim cities. Youngstown is the poster child of closed steel mills and manufacturing. He’ll rev up the jobs BS and ask what Kasich has done for Youngstown. I’m not sure as I haven’t kept up with the city, but I’m thinking it hasn’t enjoyed much success under Kasich.

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Tigger2  Mar 13, 2016 • 1:59:51pm

re: #40 Aunty Entity Dragon

The base will fall in line.

It’s in their DNA.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:00:49pm

re: #42 Tigger2

It’s in their DNA.

obediant wenig Deutsch

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mmmirele  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:01:44pm

expressen.se (a Swedish newspaper) posted a story and 13 minute video by two women living in Raqqa, Syria, the capital (such as it is) of Daesh. It’s worth a watch, the situation is horrible there. The voices have been distorted to protect the women’s identities.

expressen.se

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:03:33pm

re: #37 Ming5000

RedStaters are bending their minds around supporting Trump if he is the nominee.

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They know too that they can always denounce Trump as a RINO if his administration goes badly (which it will), and they will have yet another opportunity to double down on the crazy.

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wrenchwench  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:08:18pm

re: #42 Tigger2

It’s in their DNA.

It’s not hereditary. They must be carefully taught, and can learn better. That’s what makes them responsible for what they do.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:11:15pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

That address is the FBI office in Anchorage.
:D

I wish I lived next door to Wright. Beers would be served on me, in perpetuity.

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Nojay UK  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:12:55pm

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’m also wondering what kind of doofus puts a cheap-ass bipod on an AR that has no provision for optics.

Someone who’s converted the receiver and fitted a full-auto sear?

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:14:44pm

re: #45 Shiplord Kirel

They know too that they can always denounce Trump as a RINO if his administration goes badly (which it will), and they will have yet another opportunity to double down on the crazy.

What if it is THEY who are deemed RINOs by Trump. It is a dangerous game they play.

Franz Joseph Hermann Michael Maria von Papen zu Köningen was a German nobleman, General Staff officer and politician. He served as Chancellor of Germany in 1932 and as Vice-Chancellor under Adolf Hitler in 1933-1934. He belonged to the group of close advisers to president Paul von Hindenburg in the late Weimar Republic. It was largely Papen, believing that Hitler could be controlled once he was in the government, who persuaded Hindenburg to appoint Hitler as Chancellor in a cabinet not under Nazi Party domination.

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Bass Reeves  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:15:48pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

I know conservaderp opposite world and whatnot…but there was actual contact in the video at the link. I wouldn’t care to speculate on the actual damage of said contact since the gif is slowed down, but at the very least someone put his hands on her without her consent. Why do half the comments say nobody touched her? Seriously, she never even claimed Trump did it, just a lackey. What hill are they dying on?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:17:25pm

Donald Trump answers the question: What is 2+2?
“I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say, ‘What’s 2+2’? And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is. We’ve had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my God, I can’t believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. It’s terrible. It’s just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I’ll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It’s probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it’s probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I’m being honest, I mean, if I’m being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he’s a zero that I don’t like. Though, I probably shouldn’t say that. He’s a nice guy but he’s like, ‘10101000101,’ on and on, like that. He’s like a computer! You know what I mean? He’s like a computer. I don’t know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don’t tell you that, and I’ll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn’t believe it. So, we’re gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me.”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:18:58pm

re: #48 Nojay UK

Someone who’s converted the receiver and fitted a full-auto sear?

Hadn’t thought of that. Gods help them if they’re that fucking stupid.

I’m tempted to take a counter-posting bathroom selfie with sunglasses, plaid boxers, my Mooninite-flipping-the-bird t-shirt, and my M1 Garand, but that’s not something the world needs to see. I have enough dignity not to pose with cheap guns and Wal-Mart underwear.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:25:15pm

re: #37 Ming5000

One Redstater. And people in the comments aren’t buying it.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:26:28pm

re: #42 Tigger2

It’s in their DNA.

I think they’re built that way.

Image: Locutus+of+Borg+1.jpg

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:28:35pm

Unlike the Republican dilemma, here is a scenario I didn’t have to consider: What would I do if Jim Webb had become the nominee. Imagine, looking at the list of nominees at the beginning of the election, deciding which one you think is the absolute worst representative of the party, and then having everyone around you go “I’ll choose that person.”

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:28:44pm

re: #53 Nyet

One Redstater. And people in the comments aren’t buying it.

Yes. They are really struggling. The #NeverTrump meme was being sold hard.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:30:01pm

re: #50 Bass Reeves

What hill are they dying on?

Whichever one they think they can win on.

Fortunately their tactical acumen is severely lacking.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:32:22pm

re: #52 Pawn of the Oppressor

Hadn’t thought of that. Gods help them if they’re that fucking stupid.

I’m tempted to take a counter-posting bathroom selfie with sunglasses, plaid boxers, my Mooninite-flipping-the-bird t-shirt, and my M1 Garand, but that’s not something the world needs to see. I have enough dignity not to pose with cheap guns and Wal-Mart underwear.

An M1 Garand is many things, but “cheap gun” is not one of them.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:32:52pm

re: #56 Ming5000

Yes. They are really struggling. The #NeverTrump meme was being sold hard.

While I expect the arithmetic majority of the base to support the nominee, I don’t think the significant opposition will go anywhere.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:33:20pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:34:17pm

Gonna work on some warhammer stuff for a bit. BBL.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:35:15pm

re: #58 Aunty Entity Dragon

An M1Garand is many things, but “cheap gun” is not one of them.

I know. I meant in the sense that “life is too short for cheap beer” - If I’m going to be in my undies with a gun, it’s not going to be an ugly one.

(Mine’s a 1953 H&R Correct Grade, bought from the Civilian Marksmanship Program years ago)

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:35:28pm

Bah. Sometimes I wish the alignment of the +/- buttons wasn’t different between “my” comments and “others’” comments.

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No Depression  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:37:05pm

re: #55 Belafon

Unlike the Republican dilemma, here is a scenario I didn’t have to consider: What would I do if Jim Webb had become the nominee. Imagine, looking at the list of nominees at the beginning of the election, deciding which one you think is the absolute worst representative of the party, and then having everyone around you go “I’ll choose that person.”

Jim Webb is one candidate you could say is basically a Republican and be completely right.

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Nyet  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:40:21pm

re: #64 No Depression

Jim Webb is one candidate you could say is basically a Republican and be completely right.

There are probably some better Republicans than Webb.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:40:26pm

In Maryland

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Nojay UK  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:40:32pm

re: #52 Pawn of the Oppressor

Hadn’t thought of that. Gods help them if they’re that fucking stupid.

Is it true that BATF agents have their sense of humour surgically removed when they sign up?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:43:51pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is very bad but the advice to stay inside is very good. I hope they catch them soon.

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Tigger2  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:50:50pm
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:54:28pm

re: #67 Nojay UK

Is it true that BATF agents have their sense of humour surgically removed when they sign up?

I imagine so. I’m pretty sure Chucksie’s cutting-edge “humor” will smooth everything over if it turns out they’re goofing around with an illegally modified AR.

“It was a joke, see? I was only kidding about gleefully shooting people.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:54:28pm
A police officer was shot on Sunday as an active shooter situation unfolded outside a police station in Prince George’s County in the Maryland suburbs of Washington, authorities said on Twitter.

The officer’s condition was unknown as police told residents in a tweet to stay inside and away from the area. The police station is about 8 miles east of the U.S. capital.

rawstory.com

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 13, 2016 • 2:59:38pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

If only there were some good guys with guns around, this never would have happened…

//

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:00:09pm

re: #72 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

lol

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:00:39pm

re: #69 Tigger2

Pamela’s probably the kind of person who believe gays already had the right to marry someone of the opposite sex.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:01:17pm

I’m so confused. I balanced my budget spreadsheet last week. After entering in all the line items from spending this week, somehow I’m off by nearly $400. I didn’t even spend that much money this week. I has a puzzled.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:03:13pm

re: #75 thedopefishlives

Put it aside for a while and go back to it later. Sometimes a fresh view helps in finding mistakes.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:03:55pm

re: #75 thedopefishlives

I should clarify - it’s nearly $400 in my favor; meaning that when I compare the sum total of my bank account and my debts, and the amount of money my spreadsheet says I should have, my spreadsheet says I have $400 less than my real accounts do. Which is a nice problem to have, if it’s true, but I don’t want to make a mistake and think I have $400 more than I actually do.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:08:26pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

Did you forget a decimal somewhere? A $4.15 expense written as “$415” would do that.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:11:05pm

re: #78 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Did you forget a decimal somewhere? A $4.15 expense written as “$415” would do that.

It would, at that, but it’d show up in more obvious ways elsewhere. I’m legit at a loss at this point. It’s not the first time I’ve had the math fail to add up like this - it’s a regular occurrence; this is just the largest anomaly I’ve seen. It really worries me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:11:18pm

re: #75 thedopefishlives

Did you slip an extra zero in there somewhere or perhaps enter something twice?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:11:57pm

This guy was actually starting to be friendly toward me when he realized I’d made a break with the right, then went berserk when I criticized Glenn Greenwald. He’s been smearing me every chance he gets since then.

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:14:38pm

re: #38 Shiplord Kirel

Walter Mondale says nature of GOP debate leaves him aghast

Naturally, this is attracting a lot of ridicule and abuse from freepers and the other usual suspects.
Worth noting: Unlike Trump, LImbaugh, Nugent and a host of other conservative luminaries, Mr. Mondale did serve in the US armed forces. He was an enlisted soldier during the Korean War and did not go overseas, but obviously he could have been sent at any time. He used the GI Bill to go to law school and the rest, as they say, is history.

I was so pissed off when Mondale lost to Norm Frickin Coleman for the MN senate seat after Paul Wellstone’s plane crashed just before the election. Norm was so outclassed by Mondale - he made Coleman sound like a car salesman when they debated. That was back at a time when ‘liberal’ was a dirty word in MN. I’m glad we don’t think that way now.

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Cheechako  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:16:49pm

re: #47 makeitstop

I wish I lived next door to Wright. Beers would be served on me, in perpetuity.

He’s moving to Florida.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:17:50pm

re: #83 Cheechako

He’s moving to Florida.

To the swamps in the panhandle, no less!

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:18:35pm

re: #83 Cheechako

He’s moving to Florida.

Yes, I read that.

But then I’d have to move to Florida, and I kinda like it here, in proximity to the Great Sinful Liberal Enclave of NYC.

I’ll gladly buy a few rounds if he visits, though.

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bratwurst  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:18:52pm

Something strange going on with the NCAA basketball tournament draw:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:20:02pm

re: #86 bratwurst

There is much angst amongst the Kentucky fans on twitter right now.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:20:42pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is much angst amongst the Kentucky fans on twitter right now.

Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:24:26pm

Facebook Post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:25:00pm

Looks like Palin will be in Boca tonight with Trump

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:27:34pm
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:28:03pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

And yet he did so much research that he found half-assed lawyers to handle his cases. In the wrong jurisdiction (v. Gawker), and then filed in the wrong court in CA (which he did himself).

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:28:19pm

Yay. I downloaded MS Office Pro 2016 onto my new computer this afternoon. I bought it through work for $10 + $15 for the backup disc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:28:20pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:28:36pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

Charles C. Johnson
2 hours ago

I’m not trying to be a jerk but I’m probably the best researcher of my generation. No one has the range. No one has the scalps.

He doesn’t need to try because he just is a jerk.

Is he learning some of this arrogant boasting about less than nothing from Trump?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:29:11pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

Only in his mind.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:29:49pm

Oh man, I totally missed this until now—LOL. The wingnuts have been circulating the rumor (fake, of course) that Thomas DiMassimo, the guy who rushed the stage at the Trump rally in Ohio yesterday, has ties to ISIS (as do all liberals //).

Naturally, Trump immediately tried to use this as further proof of his victimhood. When the Daily Mail calls you out for lying, you’ve reached a special level of #FAIL.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:31:34pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like Palin will be in Boca tonight with Trump

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So, does Palin work the fundie states and Christie works the industrial or something like that?

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:32:05pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:32:45pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

No one has the range. No one has the scalps.

No one has the inside poop like Chuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:32:47pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

So, does Palin work the fundie states and Christie works the industrial or something like that?

maybe Christie is still on “vacation”…

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:36:17pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like Palin will be in Boca tonight with Trump

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Brian J.  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:38:46pm

re: #102 Dr. Matt

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It’s a flying truck, going all the way to the crash site!

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Amory Blaine  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:40:18pm

re: #102 Dr. Matt

Is she on her way to Colorado?

//

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Mattand  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:41:01pm

re: #103 Brian J.

It’s a flying truck, going all the way to the crash site!

The cab is elevated, so she can see Russia from her parking lot.

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:43:16pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like Palin will be in Boca tonight with Trump

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Loading up the truck to leave one sunny state for The Sunshine State and beyond! Excited to fly cross country

Is she taking her truck on the plane? I haz a confuzed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:45:05pm
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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:49:07pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hoping Florida Man decided not to attend. This could get bad.

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danarchy  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:49:08pm

re: #106 BeachDem

Is she taking her truck on the plane? I haz a confuzed.

I am all for mocking Sarah, but last I checked planes don’t come pick you up at home. You generally have to drive to the airport.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:51:25pm

re: #109 danarchy

I am all for mocking Sarah, but last I checked planes don’t come pick you up at home. You generally have to drive to the airport.

Yeah, that’s how I read it too. Plenty of other reasons to mock governor quitterface

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:54:52pm

re: #109 danarchy

I am all for mocking Sarah, but last I checked planes don’t come pick you up at home. You generally have to drive to the airport.

I just don’t often hear people say they’re “loading up the truck” to go to the airport. People generally say, “I’m headed to the airport.”

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:55:17pm

Maybe Trump will have this guy on stage with him tonight.

Florida sheriff pledges to arrest CEO Tim Cook if Apple resists crypto cooperation

Sounds like Trump’s kind of guy.

arstechnica.com

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:55:53pm

re: #111 BeachDem

Maybe she meant “I’m getting loaded in the truck”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:56:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:57:47pm

What really happened is the Sanders supporters ended up alienating O’Malley’s delegates so thoroughly that enough of them switched their support to Clinton to tip the scale in her favor.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:58:01pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

I should clarify - it’s nearly $400 in my favor; meaning that when I compare the sum total of my bank account and my debts, and the amount of money my spreadsheet says I should have, my spreadsheet says I have $400 less than my real accounts do. Which is a nice problem to have, if it’s true, but I don’t want to make a mistake and think I have $400 more than I actually do.

Probably an unaccounted for Soros check.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:58:18pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder why the fisheye lens? It really distorts things. It’s especially obvious when compared to the photo in your #94.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:58:58pm

Let’s remember that Florida was way ahead of the curve in terms of Republicans harassing the opposition at political rallies.

From LGF, October 2010 - Video: Allen West’s Biker Supporters Threaten and Harass Dem Staffer

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 13, 2016 • 3:59:45pm

I just want to know: if a bunch of wingnuts start showing up at a Hillary or Bernie rally will LEO ‘escort’ them out? Asking for a friend…

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:00:32pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOLOLOL

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:00:39pm

re: #109 danarchy

I am all for mocking Sarah, but last I checked planes don’t come pick you up at home. You generally have to drive to the airport.

Buzz Killer!!!

: )

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:01:41pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

Another version of events blames Clinton’s people for demanding a credential check that invalidated many of Sanders supporters because they left the convention early.

The delays led to Sanders supporters becoming frustrated, with some at the convention leaving before the final count was tallied.

Henderson said conventions in a presidential election year usually take a lot of time.

He recalled 20 years ago how the convention lasted until 2 o’clock in the morning.

“Typically we don’t have a challenge, but then typically we don’t have these razor thin margins,” he said. “I think a lot of people were first-timers for the convention assume it’s going to be done by noon. They’re rarely ever done by noon, so every convention we have people who say this is taking too long. They go home.”

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:04:51pm
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compound_Idaho  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:05:46pm

re: #113 Skip Intro

Maybe she meant “I’m getting loaded in the truck”.

The speed limit on the interstate is 80 mph in several states. Maybe I am getting old, but 80 feels like you are flying.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:08:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:08:21pm

re: #123 lawhawk

LOL @ Manly temper. In one of our possible futures you can see the nuclear flash shadow of Coulter licking Trump’s armpit while having a shattering orgasm.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:08:57pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

That’s something I don’t need to see! ARGH!

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:09:23pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:09:31pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

LOL @ Manly temper. In one of our possible futures you can see the nuclear flash shadow of Coulter licking Trump’s armpit while having a shattering orgasm.

…

So, to whom do I send the bill for the therapy I’m gonna need after that mental image?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:09:36pm
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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:10:42pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:10:43pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He wants “American music,” eh? Alright, spool up this:

Green Day - American Idiot [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:13:14pm
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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:14:09pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

LOL @ Manly temper. In one of our possible futures you can see the nuclear flash shadow of Coulter licking Trump’s armpit while having a shattering orgasm.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:16:14pm

re: #127 retired cynic

That’s something I don’t need to see! ARGH!

Listen, if I have to live with my imagination the rest of you do too.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:16:28pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

LOL @ Manly temper. In one of our possible futures you can see the nuclear flash shadow of Coulter licking Trump’s armpit while having a shattering orgasm.

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No Depression  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:19:49pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

LOL @ Manly temper. In one of our possible futures you can see the nuclear flash shadow of Coulter licking Trump’s armpit while having a shattering orgasm.

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:22:24pm

WTF Salon. Tough read. Awkwardly crafted. I guess Salon is the hot-bed of the Regressive Left. I relate to it as much as I do to RedState.

As anyone who looks out the window with clear eyes knows, this is effectively a prescription for continued regress. Clinton is another Nero. She simply does not register what time it is, and it is past time for incremental trench warfare with irrational rightists and brazen dismissals of the urgency of the present moment in American politics.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:23:04pm

re: #128 lawhawk

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Hey, Lawhawk - seen this yet? I posted it in the last thread.

facebook.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:23:22pm

re: #137 No Depression

Could be worse-could be Coulter licking Trump’s manly taint while playing footsie with Christie’s camel toe.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:24:21pm

GDF: i don’t know what your day job is but you’re in the wrong business.

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:24:34pm
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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:24:35pm

re: #138 Ming5000

WTF Salon. Tough read. Awkwardly crafted. I guess Salon is the hot-bed of the Regressive Left. I relate to it as much as I do to RedState.

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Let me get good and drunk, and maybe I’ll be able to wrote something that incoherent. Maybe.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:25:17pm

A fumi-e (踏み絵 fumi “stepping-on” + e “picture”?) was a likeness of Jesus or Mary upon which the religious authorities of the Tokugawa shogunate of Japan required suspected Christians (Kirishitan) to step on in order to prove that they were not members of that outlawed religion.[1]

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:25:18pm

re: #140 Eric The Fruit Bat

Could be worse-could be Coulter licking Trump’s manly taint while playing footsie with Christie’s camel toe.

C’mon, I haven’t had dinner yet.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:26:36pm

re: #138 Ming5000

Salon has always been dumb.

She had no part in Iraq, I guarantee there are more people alive because of our intervention in Libya, and we have only been able to do small amount in Syria, as we are tied up with our allies on vastly different sides.

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No Depression  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:27:28pm

re: #145 makeitstop

C’mon, I haven’t had dinner yet.

Your screenname sums up what I think right now lol.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:28:52pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

To the swamps in the panhandle, no less!

He’s needed here. If I can communicate, Welcome Wagon beer is on me.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:29:45pm

Mike Shedlock: Will Bernie Voters Switch to Trump if Hillary Wins the Nomination? About 10% Say They Will

He quotes from a Guardian article.

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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:33:52pm

re: #149 Eric The Fruit Bat

Mike Shedlock: Will Bernie Voters Switch to Trump if Hillary Wins the Nomination? About 10% Say They Will

He quotes from a Guardian article.

Good Diagram from that article:

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:36:21pm

re: #138 Ming5000

WTF Salon. Tough read. Awkwardly crafted. I guess Salon is the hot-bed of the Regressive Left. I relate to it as much as I do to RedState.

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I’d love to live in a fantasy world where foreign policy matters were simple or could be ignored, but they’re not and they can’t. And part of being a president is making decisions on foreign policy that somebody somewhere will criticize you for for the rest of your life. Seriously, the Berniebro model for a progressive presidency is FDR, a man who led America through most of the build-up and early years of WWII. And the man who resided in the White House during that period of American history they like to point at as proof that high taxes don’t destroy the economy? He was a Republican who’d served as Supreme Allied Commander in WWII.

This nation has not known a decade of uninterrupted peace since the 20th century. Part of being such a great nation is that you’re constantly on one side or another of a major foreign policy issue. Bernie’s not going to be able to ignore foreign policy just so he can devote his time to trying to herd cats in Congress.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:37:33pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:39:41pm

re: #123 lawhawk

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The fact that she goes to sleep each night atop a pile of money earned from her book sales is further proof to me that there is no god.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:40:07pm

BATON ROUGE — Governor John Bel Edwards today announced that the federal government declared a major disaster for the State of Louisiana. Following a tour of several parishes, Governor Edwards requested that President Barack Obama make the declaration. The initial federal declaration is for Bossier, Claiborne, Grant, Morehouse, Ouachita, Richland, and Webster Parishes. Additional parish declarations may be made as further damage assessments are conducted.

“I have traveled to every corner of the state to assess the damage of this flooding,” said Governor Edwards. “I want to emphasize that this is an initial declaration. We appreciate the quick response from the federal government to our request, and we will continue to work with them to ensure that every citizen who is impacted by this storm receives the disaster assistance he or she needs. State and local officials have given timely support to every parish in need, and we will continue to work around the clock until we are out of the woods.”

On Wednesday, March 9, Governor Edwards declared a state of emergency for 16 parishes in the state. On Thursday, March 11, he amended that declaration to include the entire state. Governor Edwards made the request to President Obama on Saturday, March 12.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:41:11pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

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“Manly temper” more like a toddler tantrum

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:41:36pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:42:16pm

re: #149 Eric The Fruit Bat

Considering how incompetent DWS is, I want this to go to the wire.

Let’s have Clinton win roughly the same way as Obama did in 2008, and seen if Sanders and Clinton can’t make a deal.

Clinton becomes the nominee, but DWS steps down as DNC head, and is replaced with someone outside of Congress.

Hopefully, once the election is won, that person, depending on their performance, can step down, and Obama takes over as DNC head. He is great at elections.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:42:55pm

What did I miss today. Finally landed after epic brunch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:43:05pm

Late again…

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:44:17pm

re: #149 Eric The Fruit Bat

Mike Shedlock: Will Bernie Voters Switch to Trump if Hillary Wins the Nomination? About 10% Say They Will

He quotes from a Guardian article.

Some of the comments in the Guardian article were—well, I don’t know quite how to describe them:

One male Sanders fan wrote: “Trump is an obnoxious vulgar blowhard who says foolish things. However, unlike Clinton - but like Sanders - at least he is an outsider who understands that the government and the economy are broken.”

34-year-old male IT technician, put it: “Bernie and Trump agree a lot on healthcare, Iraq war, campaign finance and trade. I really want to move on to something new, new ideas from outside the box. Maybe Donald Trump can provide that.”

And this one takes the cake:

A 29-year-old female data processor wrote: “As horrific as Donald Trump is, and he is a horrible, racist, misogynist idiot, I don’t think Hillary Clinton is any better. I feel like with Trump, he could at least inspire a revolution, even if it is against him. I prefer chaos to stagnation.”

Arrgghh.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:45:55pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Late again…

I think Stanley is right - he’s starting to wear down.

Low energy. SAD! Heh.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:46:07pm

re: #160 BeachDem

Fuck me, it’s 2004 all over again: “Yeah, Bush is warmongering monster, but Kerry’s not enough of a progressive for me. I think I’ll just stay home and hope Bush gets impeached for his crimes.”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:46:35pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The orange pig and un-ironically worn cat-print pants make me want to hang out with this lady.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:47:40pm

re: #160 BeachDem

A 29-year-old female data processor wrote: “As horrific as Donald Trump is, and he is a horrible, racist, misogynist idiot, I don’t think Hillary Clinton is any better. I feel like with Trump, he could at least inspire a revolution, even if it is against him. I prefer chaos to stagnation.”

Arrgghh.

Oh, how positively edgy.

Most of these kids would faint dead away if they were exposed to real chaos. They get pissy when their phone service is interrupted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:48:04pm

heh

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:48:25pm

Charles, suddenly I can’t see profiles or check karma on comments.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:49:26pm

Also, reply and quote buttons aren’t working and posting a comment causes the page to reload.

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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:49:41pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Yeah, Lou, Trump just flat-out lies and overtly appeals to his supporters’ basest instincts.

Fuck you and the rest of the “liberal” media.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:49:58pm

re: #160 BeachDem

“I prefer chaos to stagnation.”

This is just insanely disconnected from most of the world’s reality.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:50:19pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

LOL @ Manly temper. In one of our possible futures you can see the nuclear flash shadow of Coulter licking Trump’s armpit while having a shattering orgasm.

Aaaarrrgh—I so didn’t need that mental image! Brain bleach, stat!

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:50:20pm

Holy crap, the guy who rushed Trump’s stage was the same guy who ranted at those Confederate Flag protester yokels last year?? OMFG I thought that guy was going to start Civil War, Pt. 2 on the spot… Wow! He is a ballsy SOB. I don’t think he should have committed a crime but dude is clearly not ISIS. You’d have to be an idiot to think that.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:50:25pm

Correction, posting a comment causes the front page to load. Edit button not working either.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:53:02pm

Hmm, I shut down and restarted twice and that didn’t fix it, but suddenly now everything is working again.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:53:18pm

re: #164 makeitstop

Oh, how positively edgy.

Most of these kids would faint dead away if they were exposed to real chaos. They get pissy when their phone service is interrupted.

It’s pure white privilege talking. “My life and my rights are not in the balance, so I can afford to sit on my ass and hope the next election will bring me my pony.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:53:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:53:42pm

re: #170 CuriousLurker

Aaaarrrgh—I so didn’t need that mental image! Brain bleach, stat!

There is no brain bleech, only Zuul.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:54:58pm
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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:58:26pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

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About as dead-on as you can get.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:58:31pm

OH LOOK HEAR ARE TEH BERNIE SANDER TRUMP RALLY DISRUPTERS SEEKRIT INSTRUKSHUNS!! HURR HURR THIS PRUVS TEY ARE TEH COMMUNISTS!!!11!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:59:17pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 13, 2016 • 4:59:43pm

My dinger is broke.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:00:31pm

re: #181 Amory Blaine

My dinger is broke.

There’s a pill for that.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:00:33pm

re: #11 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’ve seen how well he shoots. Nobody needs to worry.

Protip, Chucksie: Try keeping your eyes open.

I’m also wondering what kind of doofus puts a cheap-ass bipod on an AR that has no provision for optics. Something something idiots and their money…

The bipod on the SKS carries by the center goober in lightweight and cheap. The one on UpChuck’s rifle is heavier and has adjustable legs, which cost a good bit more. The actual main reason for a bipod on a non-scoped AR-15 type rifle has normally been for heavy-barreled variants (usually a thick barrel 20 inches or more long) designed for longer-range or sustained fire. The rifle Chuck has is is a shorter “tacticool variant” not well suited to sustained fire, making the bipod mostly just added weight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:00:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:02:08pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:02:55pm

Another quick reminder…Sanders and Clinton Town Hall in Columbus Ohio on CNN starting now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:03:50pm
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No Depression  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:04:10pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He does this on purpose so his supporters stew in their vitriolic marinade.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:04:28pm

re: #163 Pawn of the Oppressor

The orange pig and un-ironically worn cat-print pants make me want to hang out with this lady.

Ha! I Totally missed the orange pig when I looked at the photo.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:04:31pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And here is your news update: Nasty-ass far-right bitch wants to see Trump supporters hurt and/or kill leftist Protesters. Vomit reactions at 10.

/I live in the Central time zone, so the late newscast is at 10pm instead of 11pm.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:04:39pm

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

The one on UpChuck’s rifle is heavier and has adjustable legs, which cost a good bit more.

It’s a UTG piece of shit originally designed for Airsoft. Can be had for $30 on Amazon.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:04:46pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would like to see a little more violence from the innocent Trump supporters set upon by violent leftist hoodlums.

I’ll refrain from saying what I’d like to see.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:05:06pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh Noez!! We missed the early bird for this!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:05:39pm
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Dark_Falcon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:06:30pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Has he passed out the torches for his most ardent supporters to light the way.

/Fascist reference.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:07:10pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

It’s a UTG piece of shit originally designed for Airsoft. Can be had for $30 on Amazon.

How did you find that out?

Edited.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:07:17pm

Bernie is asked about Trump saying his supporters are causing campaign interference at Trump rallies and is getting right down to it saying Trump is inciting violence with his offer to pay the legal fees.

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No Depression  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:07:59pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if they’re blaring this:

Wilhelm Richard Wagner-Flight of the Valkyries

It would be fitting I think.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:12:28pm

Now the sister of the guy shot in the head and killed by the Cincinnati police department is asking Bernie about police lying, cover-up, and general mistrust by the public.

You wouldn’t even get this question at a GOP Town Hall.

Edit…Bernie just said the police do not need to dress like an occupying army. Ouch. Watch the attacks for that come soon. “Bernie soft on crime.”

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:12:37pm

re: #198 No Depression

I wonder if they’re blaring this:

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It would be fitting I think.

I think he used that yesterday, so maybe.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:13:12pm

re: #160 BeachDem

Some of the comments in the Guardian article were—well, I don’t know quite how to describe them:

One male Sanders fan wrote: “Trump is an obnoxious vulgar blowhard who says foolish things. However, unlike Clinton - but like Sanders - at least he is an outsider who understands that the government and the economy are broken.”

34-year-old male IT technician, put it: “Bernie and Trump agree a lot on healthcare, Iraq war, campaign finance and trade. I really want to move on to something new, new ideas from outside the box. Maybe Donald Trump can provide that.”

And this one takes the cake:

A 29-year-old female data processor wrote: “As horrific as Donald Trump is, and he is a horrible, racist, misogynist idiot, I don’t think Hillary Clinton is any better. I feel like with Trump, he could at least inspire a revolution, even if it is against him. I prefer chaos to stagnation.”

Arrgghh.

I’ve watched these assholes fuck things up my whole life. Clinton and Trump - no difference? Beat me with a club.

Just wait you precious snowflakes and see how different they are if you sit back and allow him to get elected.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:14:47pm

re: #199 ObserverArt

Now the sister of the guy shot in the head and killed by the Cincinnati police department is asking Bernie about police lying, cover-up, and general mistrust by the public.

You wouldn’t even get this question at a GOP Town Hall.

Edit…Bernie just said the police do not need to dress like an occupying army. Ouch. Watch the attacks for that come soon. “Bernie soft on crime.”

Just watched this Bernie ad in which he is endorsed by Eric Garner’s daughter==>

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:15:03pm

re: #100 stpaulbear

No one has the inside indoor poop like Chuck.

Fixt

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:17:18pm

re: #168 TedStriker

Yeah, Lou, Trump just flat-out lies and overtly appeals to his supporters’ basest instincts.

Fuck you and the rest of the “liberal” media.

I’m pretty sure that for some people an educated black man speaking calmly to them like an adult constitutes talking down to and/or lecturing them, the unspoken (but understood) part being “That black man got elected POTUS and now he’s all uppity.” Ditto for that woman Hillary who doesn’t know her place, and that Commie Jew Sanders.

We want a WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE POTUS OR ELSE!!11!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:17:58pm

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

How did find that out?

I looked. Here it is.

Almost identical bipod on Amazon for $30 w/ Prime.

Probably a decent value considering the price but still absolutely ridiculous on that carbine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:20:37pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:20:50pm

Bernie is getting a free college for all question from OSU Dean of Students and the dean is wondering how that is going to work.

Bernie corrects him and says that is often misunderstood. It is not free college for all, it is free community college to get started, etc.

Uh, Bernie…I heard a commercial yesterday that I commented about that said “Free College” like it was a done deal. You had better get that cleaned up because a lot of your supporters are thinking that way, abd you admit many get that wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:22:58pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:23:19pm

We could pull it out of the OSU Dean of Students pay.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:24:14pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

WH National Security @NSC44

Statement by @Price44 on the Terrorist Attack in Turkey: whitehouse.gov
7:52 PM - 13 Mar 2016

HE DIDN’T SAY ISLAMIST TERRORIST ATTACK!! WHY??

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No Depression  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:24:36pm

This is pretty cool:

Lens turns smartphone into a microscope: Costs only 3 cents

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:24:50pm

re: #207 ObserverArt

Bernie is getting a free college for all question from OSU Dean of Students and the dean is wondering how that is going to work.

Bernie corrects him and says that is often misunderstood. It is not free college for all, it is free community college to get started, etc.

Uh, Bernie…I heard a commercial yesterday that I commented about that said “Free College” like it was a done deal. You had better get that cleaned up because a lot of your supporters are thinking that way, abd you admit many get that wrong.

No shit, “Free College” is what we hear every Berniebro trying to sell us, not “Free Community College.” That’s gonna come as a major letdown to them, as they’re all looking at Ivy League diplomas and he’s saying “I’ll eventually get to that.”

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:24:51pm

“Jesus would have been proud to introduce me to his dad”. - D.T.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:24:55pm

re: #209 Amory Blaine

We could pull it out of the OSU Dean of Students pay.

And Urban Meyer.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:25:13pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:25:56pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

And Ann Coulter thinks he doesn’t go far enough.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:26:15pm

re: #213 Skip Intro

“Jesus would have been proud to introduce me to his dad”. - D.T.

“That dick I’ve been telling you about…I have to die for him, too?”

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whitebeach  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:28:14pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks for posting this. First I’d heard of it since I’m kinda cut off in the sticks of Bossier Parish. Got my mom to safety yesterday at the high-up house of one of her old friends. Combined age of the two widows is 177. The greatest generation and still tougher than the rest.

Me, I’m still in my little refuge rental camp with two cats. About eight inches above water, but I think it’s finally crested. Please no more rain upstream. If it worsens at all I can wade out with the kittens, no worries.

This is on my cell (with only one bar) since my gallant satellite dish finally drowned Friday night.

A beautiful day today. Sat sunning on my deck just above the water and felt as if I were on a nice houseboat, with the unfortunate proviso that this boat doesn’t float.

Nature isn’t our enemy, nor is it our friend. It is totally indifferent to us. Don’t know why it always surprises me when I relearn this every few years.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:28:57pm

Maybe no schooling should be free, because ponies.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:28:58pm

re: #216 Skip Intro

And Ann Coulter thinks he doesn’t go far enough.

Ann Coulter will cheer when the first protester is stomped to death at a Trump rally.

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Shimshon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:29:47pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

Fuck me, it’s 2004 all over again: “Yeah, Bush is warmongering monster, but Kerry’s not enough of a progressive for me. I think I’ll just stay home and hope Bush gets impeached for his crimes.”

And just like 2000 with people staying at home or crossing the aisle and voting Bush because Gore didn’t “excite” them enough.

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Jayleia  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:30:04pm

re: #220 The Vicious Babushka

…

I *really* don’t need that image in my head.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:30:08pm

Reality smacked him upside the head.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:30:21pm

I apologize for my earlier comment about Trumpsters and model train enthusiasts. That was off the mark. If I could afford to invest in it, I’m sure my 12 yo would be one. He just recited Pi to the 100 digits in prep for a contest at his school tomorrow; he was also obsessed with his Thomas the Tank Engine layout a few years ago.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:30:34pm

re: #222 Jayleia

…

I *really* don’t need that image in my head.

Edited.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:30:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:30:42pm

re: #218 whitebeach

There’s more information at the link about what sorts of assistance are available and how to apply.

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:31:15pm

re: #205 goddamnedfrank

I looked. Here it is.

Almost identical bipod on Amazon for $30 w/ Prime.

Probably a decent value considering the price but still absolutely ridiculous on that carbine.

After examination, I’ll take that as convincing evidence and thank you for it. You’re right that Chuck has an airsoft bipod.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:31:17pm

re: #207 ObserverArt

Bernie is getting a free college for all question from OSU Dean of Students and the dean is wondering how that is going to work.

Bernie corrects him and says that is often misunderstood. It is not free college for all, it is free community college to get started, etc.

Uh, Bernie…I heard a commercial yesterday that I commented about that said “Free College” like it was a done deal. You had better get that cleaned up because a lot of your supporters are thinking that way, abd you admit many get that wrong.

Yeah that’s exactly what he’s said. Sigh Bernie. Anyhow my Dad was talking about this tonight, what he proposed was two years of some kind of national service military or civil and that could give the people two years an education. Sort of like the GI Bill I guess. What his way of thinking is that this type of service would have people of all sorts of different backgrounds meeting in a way they would not otherwise. I don’t know how feasible it is but it was an interesting idea.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:31:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:33:33pm

As for me, I like Bernie’s idea that he’s stated in the past but I think it’s too ambitious at this point. With tuition being as high as it is now, the primary goal ought to be to reduce the price of tuition. Free college education for all is a very ambitious proposal that I like the sound of but other things need to be worked on first and it seems that Bernie is backing out of it anyhow.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:34:54pm

re: #150 Ming5000

Good Diagram from that article:

[Embedded content]

Remember when that group didn’t vote for Obama, and cost him the election?

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Amory Blaine  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:34:57pm

Yeah if I want to watch people bash Sanders and talk about the “regressive left” I’ll go over to free republic. See y’all later.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:35:26pm

Bernie is sure getting hard questions going for detail. Now a guy from the audience is asking about reports that middle class folks could see increases in their tax up to $4700.00

This so far has been the most informative Town Hall/Dem Debate I have seen yet.

And just as I thought…Bernie is saying many of the people doing the figures on his tax proposal leave out the savings on healthcare.

Well Bernie…again…too many people think it is going to be free. $4700 will get me a real good policy under Obamacare. I might not need all that and my taxes don’t go up.

What’s up with that???

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Jayleia  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:37:21pm

re: #225 The Vicious Babushka

It’s too late, once the image is created, it cannot be uncreated…off to zooborns.com to suppress that horror… *aww* RED PANDA CUBS!

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:38:30pm

re: #226 klys (maker of Silmarils)

[Embedded content]

Wow. WTH is that, the Hand Of Sauron or something???

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:38:39pm

I still think the guy in the penis outfit was the best one of the day.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:38:41pm
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:38:56pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

This nation has not known a decade of uninterrupted peace since the 20th century. Part of being such a great nation is that you’re constantly on one side or another of a major foreign policy issue.

I remember reading years ago a book, the name escapes me now, that noted the more powerful a nation is the more often it ends up in a war.

Spain was the first nation mentioned. In the 15th and 16th Centuries they were the most powerful and most often at war. France was next, then England and finally the US. I’m betting China will be next.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:38:57pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

Bernie is sure getting hard questions going for detail. Now a guy from the audience is asking about reports that middle class folks could see increases in their tax up to $4700.00

This so far has been the most informative Town Hall/Dem Debate I have seen yet.

And just as I thought…Bernie is saying many of the people doing the figures on his tax proposal leave out the savings on healthcare.

Well Bernie…again…too many people think it is going to be free. $4700 will get me a real good policy under Obamacare. I might not need all that and my taxes don’t go up.

What’s up with that???

For a lot of Americans, health care is currently provided by the employer. (Certainly not all, but a reasonable number I would think, especially in the middle class.)

I wouldn’t hold my breath that if they no longer need to supply that, the wages would rise accordingly. I mean, it would be fantastic if they did, but do you really think that would happen in the current “stockholders first” world?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:39:21pm

Muslim immigrant (educated, professional) asks Bernie about his program to stop Trump.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:39:57pm

re: #236 Jay C

Wow. WTH is that, the Hand Of Sauron or something???

I love clouds. They do such weird shit.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:40:22pm

re: #233 Amory Blaine

Embedded Image

Yeah if I want to watch people bash Sanders and talk about the “regressive left” I’ll go over to free republic. See y’all later.

Really?

Talking about CNN having Bernie answer real questions is bashing.

Sheesh. Are you proving what everyone says about Sander’s supporters?

Bernie is going to be treated a lot tougher by the Republicans than anything being said or done here?

Maybe we should all shut up and not mention anything Bernie at all, and turn a blind eye to anything negative said about Hillary.

Politics is tough. Tough.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:41:18pm

re: #238 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Oh shit.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:41:59pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

Bernie is sure getting hard questions going for detail. Now a guy from the audience is asking about reports that middle class folks could see increases in their tax up to $4700.00

This so far has been the most informative Town Hall/Dem Debate I have seen yet.

And just as I thought…Bernie is saying many of the people doing the figures on his tax proposal leave out the savings on healthcare.

Well Bernie…again…too many people think it is going to be free. $4700 will get me a real good policy under Obamacare. I might not need all that and my taxes don’t go up.

What’s up with that???

“Think of all the money you’ll save” is the sales line you hear on an infomercial when it’s trying to sell you something you don’t really need, can’t really afford, and will hardly ever use. $4700/yr is money that is going to come out of my paycheck, regardless of how much healthcare I use in any given year. So if I have a good year and have little to no medical expenses, then how in the hell am I saving money?

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Dark_Falcon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:42:04pm

re: #243 ObserverArt

Really?

Talking about CNN having Bernie answer real questions is bashing.

Sheesh. Are you proving what everyone says about Sander’s supporters?

Bernie is going to be treated a lot tougher by the Republicans than anything being said or done here?

Maybe we should all shut up and not mention anything Bernie at all, and turn a blind eye to anything negative said about Hillary.

Politics is tough. Tough.

It’s a Democratic example of Special Rule: “Go, Team, GO!” in action.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:42:26pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:42:34pm

re: #244 CuriousLurker

Oh shit.

can’t be too bad, msnbc hasn’t cut from caught on tape yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:43:38pm
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:44:04pm

re: #160 BeachDem

Notice two of the quotes are from IT people?

“Experts in one field are nor necessarily experts in another. But experts often seem to think so, and the narrower their field of expertise the more likely they are to think this.” - Robert A. Heinlein

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:44:29pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

What’s he going to do if no one interrupts him?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:44:52pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:46:04pm

re: #233 Amory Blaine

For the record, I don’t think we’re anywhere close to Free Republic in terms of the discussion. There is a clear subset of Bernie supporters being discussed, although I (personally) think the topic is getting flogged somewhat and would be fine with giving it a rest (so I don’t talk about it), and some people have criticisms about his candidacy that I think are very valid (his disinterest in foreign policy, his disinterest in actually helping with downticket races, etc.) and shouldn’t be ignored - just like some people have criticisms of Clinton’s candidacy, which are brought up and discussed.

If that kind of reality-based criticism makes you think of Free Republic …I don’t really know what to say? I’m sorry?

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:46:21pm

re: #234 ObserverArt

Bernie is sure getting hard questions going for detail. Now a guy from the audience is asking about reports that middle class folks could see increases in their tax up to $4700.00

This so far has been the most informative Town Hall/Dem Debate I have seen yet.

And just as I thought…Bernie is saying many of the people doing the figures on his tax proposal leave out the savings on healthcare.

Well Bernie…again…too many people think it is going to be free. $4700 will get me a real good policy under Obamacare. I might not need all that and my taxes don’t go up.

What’s up with that???

That’s also what people don’t understand if the Republicans were able to kill Social Security: Your salaries wouldn’t go up by the amount you and the company paid into the system. If you’re lucky, it might go up by your contribution. But the company isn’t going to just give you their share.

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whitebeach  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:48:34pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks again. I’m sure I’ll be learning about this once we’re on the other side. Right now it’s just a matter of getting through a flood, something I’ve dealt with more than once before, sadly. My mom’s house will be a total loss, like something from the Ninth Ward of New Orleans, and like countless locals she no longer has flood insurance. I don’t think she’s even thinking of rebuilding, so low interest federal emergency loans won’t mean much to her.

Right now I’m just in the right now, which means feeding the kitties their dinner, making myself a drink, and keeping an eye on the water and sky.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:49:00pm

I’ll also add that I do like the idea of investing more money into community colleges as well. Community colleges are great for kids who are not able to afford four year colleges off the bat or even those like myself who may not have had the best grades to get into a four year school out of high school and honestly were not ready. The community college system here in Northern Virginia is one of the best in the country I’ve read and I really think should be a model for community colleges everywhere.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:49:23pm

This is why I wish there’d been such a town hall for the Dem candidates here VA, because I would have not hesitated to ask Bernie to explain how he’s going to sell his healthcare plan with guaranteed taxes on every working American when the most reviled and hated portion of the ACA (which he claims doesn’t go far enough) is the individual mandate that taxes you if you don’t have health insurance?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:50:43pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

His end goal is good, and should be done.

But we do need to start dropping costs.

First, there should be an investigation into the hiring habits in regards to administrators to University. The number of professors has stayed roughly stagnant since the 90s, but the number of administrators has ballooned by 3 to 6 times, depending on the kind of institution. And many of the positions cost a very pretty penny.

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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:52:01pm

re: #233 Amory Blaine

Embedded Image

Yeah if I want to watch people bash Sanders and talk about the “regressive left” I’ll go over to free republic. See y’all later.

What’s being said about Bernie here that couldn’t be backed up with facts or compared to his own statements?

Don’t be getting your nose out of joint, just because your (apparently) favored candidate is getting called out over BS.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:52:25pm

I’d also like to know how Bernie expects to pay for everything he is proposing. If that makes me a Bernie basher, so be it.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:53:30pm

re: #258 Ziggy_TARDIS

His end goal is good, and should be done.

But we do need to start dropping costs.

First, there should be an investigation into the hiring habits in regards to administrators to University. The number of professors has stayed roughly stagnant since the 90s, but the number of administrators has ballooned by 3 to 6 times, depending on the kind of institution. And many of the positions cost a very pretty penny.

Good point about admin pay. The other thing is the question is how do you balance the cost of tuition with professor pay. It’s a complicated issue. And then you have the division one schools that are heavily invested in athletics as well.

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Shimshon  Mar 13, 2016 • 5:59:09pm

re: #233 Amory Blaine

[Embedded content]

Yeah if I want to watch people bash Sanders and talk about the “regressive left” I’ll go over to free republic. See y’all later.

It’s a natural reaction to the rhetoric directed at Hillary on almost every website. If you accidentally found yourself on reddit you’d think Hillary was the one talking about building walls and assaulting protesters and suing the media if they upset you. Every fake scandal is repeated like the absolute truth about her. Every Republican blunder is her fault, trade agreements, Iraq, etc.

People here I can understand why they have strong feelings against supporters of Bernie. The vocal ones sound just like Ron Paul fanatics in the 2012 election. Same tactics too from smearing their opponents, treating them like the evil enemy, crying about primary election “fraud”, crying about bias from the party national committee, having purity tests that unless you support RON PAUL you aren’t a true Republican, the list is endless.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:00:51pm

re: #250 Romantic Heretic

I’m in IT, and I assume my field is mostly libertarian.
The byline is interesting: Mike Shedlock. He’s a gold bug and a prepper.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:01:44pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s exactly what he’s said. Sigh Bernie. Anyhow my Dad was talking about this tonight, what he proposed was two years of some kind of national service military or civil and that could give the people two years an education. Sort of like the GI Bill I guess. What his way of thinking is that this type of service would have people of all sorts of different backgrounds meeting in a way they would not otherwise. I don’t know how feasible it is but it was an interesting idea.

Basically the same idea as in Starship Troopers. People like to lambast that book for ‘promoting the military’ or some such. They overlook that signing up was for ‘Federal Service’, not ‘military service’. Heinlein mentioned that service could include space traffic controller or even just washing floors in said spaceport.

The point was is that a potential citizen had to prove they were willing to give up a little of their life, or perhaps their whole life, in support of The Federation. Prove that the society they lived in was more important than themselves.

I also agree with your dad about bringing people together from disparate parts of the nation. It’s my belief that the West did as well as it did after WWII because of WWII. People from every part of the nation and every class ended up working together. In the process they became people to each other. They were all Americans, or Brits or Canadians or even Germans. It made it hard to be nasty to others from other states, provinces or classes. An individual might have a friend they served with there and would say “No way!” to attempts to hurt them.

That has changed since and I think it shows.

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Sionainn  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:01:51pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

Hmm, I shut down and restarted twice and that didn’t fix it, but suddenly now everything is working again.

It’s what you get for forcing your imagination on us. ;-)

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:03:27pm

re: #261 HappyWarrior

I was being far more to the core.

Do we even need this many administrators?

It seems America is getting bogged down in Middle Management.

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TedStriker  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:09:35pm

re: #246 Dark_Falcon

It’s a Democratic example of Special Rule: “Go, Team, GO!” in action.

Shit, like you should be talking about that…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:12:04pm

re: #264 Romantic Heretic

Basically the same idea as in Starship Troopers. People like to lambast that book for ‘promoting the military’ or some such. They overlook that signing up was for ‘Federal Service’, not ‘military service’. Heinlein mentioned that service could include space traffic controller or even just washing floors in said spaceport.

The point was is that a potential citizen had to prove they were willing to give up a little of their life, or perhaps their whole life, in support of The Federation. Prove that the society they lived in was more important than themselves.

I also agree with your dad about bringing people together from disparate parts of the nation. It’s my belief that the West did as well as it did after WWII because of WWII. People from every part of the nation and every class ended up working together. In the process they became people to each other. They were all Americans, or Brits or Canadians or even Germans. It made it hard to be nasty to others from other states, provinces or classes. An individual might have a friend they served with there and would say “No way!” to attempts to hurt them.

That has changed since and I think it shows.

Interesting. I don’t think he ever read that book since he’s never been a big sci-fi reader but I think perhaps he was inspired as you get at by the post WWII world. He himself (of a white middle class background) remembers working with less well off African-Americans in some of his first jobs and I remember when I was a kid, a lot of his co-workers in the restaurant industry were immigrants. I thought it was an interesting idea. I think he basically when it comes to war doesn’t want our wars to turn into the less well off being the fodder while the more well off stay stateside and party.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:12:31pm

re: #266 Ziggy_TARDIS

I was being far more to the core.

Do we even need this many administrators?

It seems America is getting bogged down in Middle Management.

That is true too. I remember a lot of deans when I was in college now that I think about it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:18:35pm

re: #263 Sherlock Hound

He’s a die-hard Liberterian who was in financial IT (mainframe) but wasn’t able to secure work after the 2000 collapse. He does believe in the fallacy that gold is money, but I doubt he’s a prepper.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:32:33pm

re: #264 Romantic Heretic

Basically the same idea as in Starship Troopers. People like to lambast that book for ‘promoting the military’ or some such. They overlook that signing up was for ‘Federal Service’, not ‘military service’. Heinlein mentioned that service could include space traffic controller or even just washing floors in said spaceport.

The point was is that a potential citizen had to prove they were willing to give up a little of their life, or perhaps their whole life, in support of The Federation. Prove that the society they lived in was more important than themselves.

I also agree with your dad about bringing people together from disparate parts of the nation. It’s my belief that the West did as well as it did after WWII because of WWII. People from every part of the nation and every class ended up working together. In the process they became people to each other. They were all Americans, or Brits or Canadians or even Germans. It made it hard to be nasty to others from other states, provinces or classes. An individual might have a friend they served with there and would say “No way!” to attempts to hurt them.

That has changed since and I think it shows.

That idea actually exists IRL, in the form of NCCC. It is a survival of the FDR Civilian Conservation Corps. Our Habitat affiliate hosted (worked to death) a large number of them for two years. That let us work through the week—we built a lot of houses. Many of the kids were prepping for or on break from college. It was the only time I’ve ever seen a girl use the Pythagorean Theorem to lay out a shingle pattern.

The GOP has been trying for decades now to strangle its operating funds and ‘GI Bill’.

nationalservice.gov

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HappyWarrior  Mar 13, 2016 • 6:42:19pm

re: #271 Decatur Deb

That idea actually exists IRL, in the form of NCCC. It is a survival of the FDR Civilian Conservation Corps. Our Habitat affiliate hosted (worked to death) a large number of them for two years. That let us work through the week—we built a lot of houses. Many of the kids were prepping for or on break from college. It was the only time I’ve ever seen a girl use the Pythagorean Theorem to lay out a shingle pattern.

The GOP has been trying for decades now to strangle its operating funds and ‘GI Bill’.

nationalservice.gov

Thanks. I think he was talking about making something like that mandatory though but yeah I was thinking of the CCC when he talked about it. And I think the CCC was a great program that helped build the comradery our guys had in WWII and the post WWII world.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2016 • 7:18:02pm

re: #240 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For a lot of Americans, health care is currently provided by the employer. (Certainly not all, but a reasonable number I would think, especially in the middle class.)

I wouldn’t hold my breath that if they no longer need to supply that, the wages would rise accordingly. I mean, it would be fantastic if they did, but do you really think that would happen in the current “stockholders first” world?

What would happen would be that for folks like me who have specialized expertise that companies need and would find hard to replace, compensation would rise. For folks with less leverage, it would probably rise a lot less.


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