Breitbart Editors Post Creepy Attack on Ben Shapiro Using His Father’s Pseudonym

These people are gross
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The original illustration for Breitbart’s vicious attack on Shapiro and Fields

It’s no secret that the people who run Breitbart “News” are right wing creepazoids, but today they took the creepiness to a whole new level, posting a nasty personal attack on Ben Shapiro (who resigned in protest over their shabby treatment of reporter Michelle Fields) using the pseudonym of Shapiro’s father. Yes, they really did this.

“Former Breitbart News editor-at-large Ben Shapiro announced Sunday evening via left-wing Buzzfeed that he is abandoning Andrew Breitbart’s lifelong best friend, widow, hand-picked management team and friends in pursuit of an elusive contributorship at the Fox News Channel,” the story begins. “It was business as usual for the ambitious conservative gadfly, who is known to live on the edge, courting and then leaving a series of companies over the past several years.

In an interview Shapiro denied he was looking to work for Fox News and that he has “never received” a job from the network. Shapiro, who is a Ted Cruz supporter, also said he did not violate his employment contract as the piece originally noted, since he is an “at will” employee.

The unusual piece, which can be read in full here, was even more shocking for Shapiro because it was posted under the pseudonym his father used while writing for the site — William Bigelow.

Shapiro’s father, the writer David Shapiro, also resigned from Breitbart on Sunday evening.

The ugly attack piece (right wing “humor” at its finest) is now gone, and in its place Joel Pollak posted a smarmy apology; but in the HTML code, the page title still shows the original headline: Ben Shapiro Betrays Loyal Readers, Listicles - Breitbart.

Statement from Breitbart News Editor-at-Large and In-House Counsel Joel B. Pollak:

The article was written by me as part of an effort to make light of a significant company event, and was published as a result of a misunderstanding without going through the normal editorial channels.

I apologize to Michelle Fields, my friend Ben Shapiro, and to everyone concerned.

Yeah, he was just “making light” of a company event, folks! Happens at every media site. (Not.)

Here’s the full article Pollak retched up in the first place, saved by someone at archive.is. Note that the title of the piece was evidently edited at least once, because the saved version shows the title as: Ben Shapiro Betrays Loyal Breitbart Readers in Pursuit of Fox News Contributorship.

UPDATE at 3/14/16 12:22:11 pm by Charles Johnson

More resignations from the hate site Andrew Breitbart built:

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417 comments
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:13:36pm

There has been a mass exodus from Dead Breitbart’s Mausoleum of Derp

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:13:42pm
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:14:27pm

This is what passes as a journalism outlet?

This is what passes for professional conduct?

These people are deranged, and that clearly is getting passed on to those who read the site regularly and taken the opinions offered as fact.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:15:00pm

Ben’s about to see what the people he’s attacked for years have to deal with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:16:22pm

snark is everywhere

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Lidane  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:17:25pm

I’ve seen a fair amount of “I knew Andrew Breitbart and he’d be sickened to see his own site backing Trump or turning on a reporter!” on Twitter.

Somehow I don’t buy either one.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:17:47pm

The whole Palin accident story stinks. Trump-Palin event cancelled, Palin on a plane back to wherever, then she shows up at the uncancelled Trump-Palin rally and all’s good.

I realize that this probably is just SOP for Palin since she didn’t rush home when her punk son was arrested for assault either, but still.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:19:46pm

re: #7 Skip Intro

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:20:26pm

re: #7 Skip Intro

This is exactly what happened with her son, when he was arrested.

You’d think if your husband was in intensive care, you’d rush to his side.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:20:49pm

MOAR BREITBART DEFECTIONS
Now I have to find some right-wing memes about people never running away from “Free Market Capitalism” like they run away from “Soshulusm”

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Lidane  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:21:24pm
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:21:59pm

re: #9 Jenner7

This is exactly what happened with her son, when he was arrested.

You’d think if your husband was in intensive care, you’d rush to his side.

If my (hypothetical) wife were in intensive care, I wouldn’t leave her damned side - I’d sleep in a chair next to her bed.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:22:33pm

Breaking!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:23:05pm

Meanwhile, the Rage Furby is hearing imaginary voices again on his celestial police scanner.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:23:56pm

Whoa. The shit’s getting real now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:24:26pm
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piratedan  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:26:01pm

All I can say is that they deserve each other. I’ll get the popcorn.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:27:26pm

But Trump said that he doesn’t incite people to violence. He doesn’t know where that’s coming from!

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:27:44pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:27:55pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Context?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:29:03pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

Context?

You have to click on the little tweet bird in the lower right to see the text.
A protester called Trump a fascist at the rally.

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:29:05pm

re: #20 FormerDirtDart

Context?

I think it’s this:

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:29:36pm
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:29:42pm

I weep for the future of the nation. Do these people not get it? Do they not care that they’re slouching towards fascism? Is this what they want?

Trump gives them all the trappings. He’s using all the code words and contexts/pretexts, and his followers are rabid and ready to jump ugly. We’re already seeing it.

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:30:43pm

re: #24 lawhawk

I weep for the future of the nation. Do these people not get it? Do they not care that they’re slouching towards fascism? Is this what they want?

[Embedded content]

Trump gives them all the trappings. He’s using all the code words and contexts/pretexts, and his followers are rabid and ready to jump ugly. We’re already seeing it.

Only thing missing from that photo is the “I’m With Stupid” shirt.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:30:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:31:06pm
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:32:03pm

Protesters should take “Citation needed” posters to his rallies.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:32:49pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards. Up early tomorrow.

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Lidane  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:33:05pm

re: #28 Belafon

Protesters should take “Citation needed” posters to his rallies.

They’d have arm strain in the first five minutes.

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:33:36pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

After the racism and misogyny, this is the thing that bothers me the most about Trump. Hyperbole like that is so unbecoming of a president. It’s grade school shit, really.

Not, “vote as often as you want” or “vote more than once”, but “19 times!!!”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:34:24pm

re: #31 Franklin

After the racism and misogyny, this is the thing that bothers me the most about Trump. Hyperbole like that is so unbecoming of a president. It’s grade school shit, really.

Not, “vote as often as you want” or “vote more than once”, but “19 times!!!”

That’s an oddly specific prime number.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:35:13pm

Ben: “I’m shocked, shocked, to find unpleasantness going on in this open sewer!”

Shapiro, a Harvard lawyer and member of the State Bar of California, apparently violated virtually every clause in his employment contract during an appearance on The Kelly File last Thursday evening.

So wait, their “In-House Counsel” publicly accused an employee of violating their contract without actually knowing what the contract was?

That’s a top shelf legal mind there…

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:35:26pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

That’s an oddly specific prime number.

And still a higher number than verified voter fraud in the past few election cycles :)

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jc717  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:36:30pm

Trump is making America great again already… he’s just destroyed breitbart.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:36:55pm

I like the neo-nazi hashtag

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:37:07pm

re: #24 lawhawk

Not the best source, but Sean Davis claims these two are a “comedy duo”:

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:40:09pm

re: #31 Franklin

Not, “vote as often as you want” or “vote more than once”, but “19 times!!!”

cf. “Don’t believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. The number’s probably 28, 29, as high as 35. In fact, I even heard recently 42 percent.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:40:10pm

re: #37 lawhawk

Not the best source, but Sean Davis claims these two are a “comedy duo”:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:41:29pm

re: #38 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

cf. “Don’t believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. The number’s probably 28, 29, as high as 35. In fact, I even heard recently 42 percent.”

If you’re gonna pull a number out of your ass, make it a BIG number.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:43:07pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

If you’re gonna pull a number out of your ass, make it a BIG YUUUGE number.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:43:26pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

If you’re gonna pull a number out of your ass, make it a BIG number.

I hear it’s 100%. Can I be president?

So, what he’s telling people is that, when they look around, one out of every two people they see is out of work but wanting to? No. He’s explicitly leaving off that last part.

Edit: I forgot, he got it off the internet.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:46:02pm

I’m thinking that the people who want to protest at Trump rallies need a strategy that separates them from the fascists. Stand up, and turn your back on Trump. Stand silently. Don’t shout, because nobody will hear you. Don’t wave your arms, because they’ll interpret it as aggression.

Imagine if 20 or 30 people organized to do that all at once, all throughout the crowd, or maybe all in one section near the front. Stand, turn your back on him, wait silently.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:49:23pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m thinking that the people who want to protest at Trump rallies need a strategy that separates them from the fascists. Stand up, and turn your back on Trump. Stand silently. Don’t shout, because nobody will hear you. Don’t wave your arms, because they’ll interpret it as aggression.

Imagine if 20 or 30 people organized to do that all at once, all throughout the crowd, or maybe all in one section near the front. Stand, turn your back on him, wait silently.

They threw a woman out the other day who just stood up and did nothing else.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:49:24pm

This is one of the guys who posed with Chuck Johnson with an assault rifle.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:50:24pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

This is one of the guys who posed with Chuck Johnson with an assault rifle.

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First amendment rights for me but not for thee.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:50:32pm

re: #44 Belafon

They threw a woman out the other day who just stood up and did nothing else.

They threw out a bunch of folks who did nothing but being black before a rally even started.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:51:43pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

This is one of the guys who posed with Chuck Johnson with an assault rifle.

[Embedded content]

His Facebook page says he’s an employee of Intel Security. I wonder what they would think about him posing with a gun, threatening to shoot people.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:51:44pm

re: #24 lawhawk

I weep for the future of the nation. Do these people not get it? Do they not care that they’re slouching towards fascism? Is this what they want?

[Embedded content]

Trump gives them all the trappings. He’s using all the code words and contexts/pretexts, and his followers are rabid and ready to jump ugly. We’re already seeing it.

Like the story about the police charging Trump, we need confirmation that those armbands are an actual thing, and not anti-Trump polling. Not that Trump isn’t a fascist scum, of course.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:52:36pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:52:46pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

This is one of the guys who posed with Chuck Johnson with an assault rifle.

[Embedded content]

I’m confused. What government entity was threatening their right to speak, worship, or assemble peacefully?

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:53:38pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

They threw out a bunch of folks who did nothing but being black before a rally even started.

Hey, they were given a chance to stop being black, but they were just too stubborn to compromise.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:53:40pm

re: #35 jc717

Trump is making America great again already… he’s just destroyed breitbart.com

And for his next act, he will destroy the GOP. Thanks Donald!

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:53:49pm

re: #49 Big Beautiful Door

Seeing a single source claiming that these two have been trolling a bunch of the campaigns, not just Trump with those armbands.

This whole campaign season needs a reset. And a mute button.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:54:15pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

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Dafuq?

Either he’s not really that badly hurt, or he is and it’s not a big deal?

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:54:18pm

re: #52 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Hey, they were given a chance to stop being black, but they were just too stubborn to compromise.

Either be white, or leave. It’s your choice.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:54:21pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Whoa. The shit’s getting real now.

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If this comes to anything, I will gladly eat someone’s hat in any desired location.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:54:41pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

If you’re gonna pull a number out of your ass, make it a BIG number.

“THERE WERE 20 INCIDENTS!”
“No, there was one, and here are the details.”
“YOU’RE TRYING TO COVER UP THE OTHER 19!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:57:18pm

re: #58 Kragar

“THERE WERE 20 INCIDENTS!”
“No, there was one, and here are the details.”
“YOU’RE TRYING TO COVER UP THE OTHER 19!”

I’m always tempted, when confronted with CT’s, to say, “Look, if it’s really true that the Democrats were able to win the election with over 5 Million fraudulent votes, and leave no evidence, we’re clearly much, MUCH smarter than you, and you should just stand aside and let us rule.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:58:49pm

re: #54 lawhawk

Seeing a single source claiming that these two have been trolling a bunch of the campaigns, not just Trump with those armbands.

This whole campaign season needs a reset. And a mute button.

Its been so weird, virtually anything reported is credible.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:59:39pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Okay this is just weird. But then again i remember it’s Sarah Palin who got upset about Rahm Emanuel saying retard in private but had no problem with Limbaugh using it in public.

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Ming5000  Mar 14, 2016 • 12:59:55pm

From KTVA Alaska

Bill Gamble, director of the Matanuska Susitna Borough’s Emergency Services division wouldn’t comment on identity citing confidentiality reasons, but confirmed there was a snowmachine crash near Talkeetna.

“I can tell you that there was a snowmachine accident in the Talkeetna area last night and the snowmachine rider suffered serious injuries and was transferred to Mat-Su Regional via ambulance, and yes we did respond to the call.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:00:22pm

My brother just posted something on Facebook that gave me pause:

If you line up all of your ex-lovers in a row you can see the flowchart of your mental illness

The reason it gave me pause? I went back to the beginning and married the first one. My “mental illness flow chart” is a circle.
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:00:49pm

Baby Whiplash retweeted this about Dead Breitbart being a conspiracy theorist==>

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Ming5000  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:01:03pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

My brother just posted something on Facebook that gave me pause:

The reason it gave me pause? I went back to the beginning and married the first one. My “mental illness flow chart” is a circle.
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Happy Pi Day 3.14.16

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:02:43pm

re: #28 Belafon

Protesters should take “Citation needed” posters to his rallies.

Image: wikipedian_protester.png

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:02:50pm
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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:03:45pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m always tempted, when confronted with CT’s, to say, “Look, if it’s really true that the Democrats were able to win the election with over 5 Million fraudulent votes, and leave no evidence, we’re clearly much, MUCH smarter than you, and you should just stand aside and let us rule.”

“THEY BUSED IN VOTERS FROM OUT OF STATE!”

“So let me get this straight. They got several hundred people to vote in their home states, coordinated them getting picked up, bused cross state lines, voted in a whole separate election, then got bused home, all without leaving any evidence it occurred, or having a witness step forward saying they voted like that, drove one of the buses, etc?”

“… YES!”

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:04:02pm

re: #60 Big Beautiful Door

Its been so weird, virtually anything reported is credible.

This campaign needs an enema. /Jack Napier

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:04:44pm

re: #62 Ming5000

Willow “Bianca”?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:04:49pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash retweeted this about Dead Breitbart being a conspiracy theorist==>

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Breitbart was an asshole.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:05:07pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m thinking that the people who want to protest at Trump rallies need a strategy that separates them from the fascists. Stand up, and turn your back on Trump. Stand silently. Don’t shout, because nobody will hear you. Don’t wave your arms, because they’ll interpret it as aggression.

Imagine if 20 or 30 people organized to do that all at once, all throughout the crowd, or maybe all in one section near the front. Stand, turn your back on him, wait silently.

There was the Muslim woman with the yellow star who stood silently with a Jewish man - and they both got pulled from the crowd and shown the door.

That a point I made to a guy on Facebook who said protesters were going to Trump rallies ‘looking for trouble’ - it doesn’t matter if you’re vocal or silent, non-violent or agressive. If you’re not there to show fealty to Trump, you’re treated as if you’re a violent protester.

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danarchy  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:05:38pm

re: #70 Skip Intro

Willow “Bianca”?

Her full name is Willow Bianca Faye Palin

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:06:57pm

Please clap share

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:08:24pm

re: #60 Big Beautiful Door

Its been so weird, virtually anything reported is credible.

The entire election has entered the Tyson Zone.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:08:45pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:09:05pm

Another Town Hall? What are they going to talk about that they didn’t talk about last night?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:09:34pm

re: #74 Franklin

Done.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:09:39pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:09:42pm

Anyway, just in case anyone is feeling bad about America because a racist fascist is having a lot of political success, its not just the US. Far-right parties running against immigration are experiencing success all over Europe as well.
vox.com

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:09:50pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:11:09pm

re: #77 The Vicious Babushka

Another Town Hall? What are they going to talk about that they didn’t talk about last night?

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I heard last night nobody asked Bernie anything outside his comfort zone. Having watched Hillary politely and thoroughly answer questions from rude assholes in Congress, I’m not sure anything’s out of HER comfort zone.
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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:12:04pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

“thank you baby” — Trump to Palin as he left the stage (95% sure he said it)

Didn’t he also say that to Christie during the ‘Get on the plane and go home’ incident? Or did Christie say it to him? I remember seeing a transcript of that conversation and it was in there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:13:09pm

re: #79 wrenchwench

Time for a male neuroscientist Bill of Rights, first, the right to peacefully assemble free of feminist hags

I suspect, thinking as he does, that particular male neuroscientist gets a lot of time and space to peacefully assemble free of all women of any description.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:13:23pm

re: #82 Blind Frog Belly White

I heard last night nobody asked Bernie anything outside his comfort zone. Having watched Hillary politely and thoroughly answer questions from rude assholes in Congress, I’m not sure anything’s out of HER comfort zone.
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I really want to see a Trump-Clinton matchup. She is looking forward to it, she will kick his ass and she is relentless. I think Bernie would get discombobulated.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:13:32pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:16:10pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

I suspect, thinking as he does, that particular male neuroscientist gets a lot of time and space to peacefully assemble his clothing for the next day free of all women of any description.

Added to it a bit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:17:25pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

I really want to see a Trump-Clinton matchup. She is looking forward to it, she will kick his ass and she is relentless. I think Bernie would get discombobulated.

What I’d have paid real money to watch would be Joe Biden and Trump. After watching him completely deflate Paul Ryan, and given his depth of knowledge and humor, I imagine he’d have Trump in red-faced, spitting rage after about 5 minutes.

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:17:59pm
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Kryptik  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:18:17pm

re: #80 Big Beautiful Door

Anyway, just in case anyone is feeling bad about America because a racist fascist is having a lot of political success, its not just the US. Far-right parties running against immigration are experiencing success all over Europe as well.
vox.com

This is the precise shit that makes me worry, and keeps me from making the same assumptions that somehow a GOP defeat in 2016 is an inevitability. This is a goddamned inexorable surge and it feels like it’s impossible to stop anymore and that terrifies the fuck out of me. Especially seeing the rise of casual and explicit racism and xenophobia amongst my peers who have gone full bore on this stuff and keep using the examples in Europe as proof positive that all the darkies are evil savages that need to be stopped to save America the Great.

It fucking terrifies me, as a liberal, as a son of immigrants, as a darker skinned American, as an American period, and as a human being that the venom and froth have seemed to reach a self-feeding point to where trying to stop it only makes it more powerful somehow.

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:18:20pm

Finally got to my twitter machine…

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:18:42pm

The text of the article for the archival sake:

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:20:33pm

the Ticuna indigenous people of Colombia use depictions of animals for the masks they wear in rituals. Animals such as turtles, snakes, tapirs, birds, Jaguars and fish are used as a social function of specifying the different clans within the Tribe. This figure is an artistic creation to give a representation of a Ticuna person wearing their animal mask!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:23:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:24:28pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:24:33pm

re: #90 Kryptik

This is the precise shit that makes me worry, and keeps me from making the same assumptions that somehow a GOP defeat in 2016 is an inevitability. This is a goddamned inexorable surge and it feels like it’s impossible to stop anymore and that terrifies the fuck out of me. Especially seeing the rise of casual and explicit racism and xenophobia amongst my peers who have gone full bore on this stuff and keep using the examples in Europe as proof positive that all the darkies are evil savages that need to be stopped to save America the Great.

It fucking terrifies me, as a liberal, as a son of immigrants, as a darker skinned American, as an American period, and as a human being that the venom and froth have seemed to reach a self-feeding point to where trying to stop it only makes it more powerful somehow.

It is very ugly and scary, and we have to take it very seriously. However, so far it still represents a minority of the voters. Trump doesn’t even have the support of a majority of GOP voters.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:26:05pm

Never got to reply in the other thread.

littlegreenfootballs.com

BS, hope your friend’s mother is ok!

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:26:27pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Rod still loves him some SJW “mobs” who threaten his daily trip to Whole Foods…

The threat to democracy, then, also comes from the mob that shut Trump down. This is the thing that drives me nuts about this debate. So many people on the left think that because Trump is illiberal and nasty, he and his supporters don’t deserve the basic respect that is part of the social contract in a liberal, pluralistic society. They believe that their tribe is right, and that’s all that matters. And why shouldn’t they protest like this? Their illiberal tactics have been working for months on campus.

So, I don’t at all back away from the claim that the militant left is driving a lot of this. How many Trump rallygoers left the other night thinking, “You know, these youths have a point. Trump takes things too far. I’m going to reconsider voting for him”? Not one, I’m sure. Rather, they probably left thinking, “This is why we need Trump. This is the future the left is planning for people like me: to silence us.”

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:27:07pm
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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:27:10pm

Sounds like it. It’s at the very end.

Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:27:33pm

re: #97 GlutenFreeJesus

Never got to reply in the other thread.

littlegreenfootballs.com

BS, hope your friend’s mother is ok!

Three stitches and a black eye. Otherwise OK.

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thecommodore  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:28:13pm

..

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Kryptik  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:29:07pm

re: #96 Big Beautiful Door

It is very ugly and scary, and we have to take it very seriously. However, so far it still represents a minority of the voters. Trump doesn’t even have the support of a majority of GOP voters.

Problem still is, how many of those voters will fall in line in the end simply because they see the Democrats as an even worse enemy that much be stopped and hung dead?

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:29:30pm

re: #99 Nyet

re: #102 thecommodore

1 minute late :P

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:29:59pm

re: #99 Nyet

Bah. Any way to save twitter gifs? I need this to text to friends. lol

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:30:21pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dinesh is a dumbass.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:30:36pm

re: #104 Nyet

1 minute late :P

If you don’t count previous threads. :)

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:31:32pm

re: #105 GlutenFreeJesus

Hmm, in the source it shows up as mp4

MP4 Video

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:32:32pm

re: #98 Aunty Entity Dragon

Rod still loves him some SJW “mobs” who threaten his daily trip to Whole Foods…

We’ve gone from Trump is the left’s fault to Trump’s followers are the left’s fault.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:33:05pm

re: #104 Nyet

1 minute late :P

Bull. Look up thread…it’s been posted two or three times.

Sheesh. No one ever checks these things.

Edit…yeah…it was the last biggie thread.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:33:20pm

re: #109 Belafon

We’ve gone from Trump is the left’s fault to Trump’s followers are the left’s fault.

Yep. Your conservative personal responsibility in action. Everything is the left’s fault.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:33:49pm

I built a pair of mountain bike wheels for a guy with a chair a few years ago. He wanted to go fishing.

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Kryptik  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:34:52pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Yep. Your conservative personal responsibility in action. Everything is the left’s fault.

The problem isn’t them peddling this line. The problem is how much the media consistently swallows it. How, at best, it ends up as ‘both sides same thing’, with the unspoken corollary of ‘but the left is always worse and more monstrous in doing so and for doing so’.

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Weaselone  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:34:54pm

re: #85 The Vicious Babushka

I really want to see a Trump-Clinton matchup. She is looking forward to it, she will kick his ass and she is relentless. I think Bernie would get discombobulated.

Hmmmm. Now that gives me an interesting debate idea. Invite Bernie and Hillary to appear in 1 hour town hall events and then toss a Trump impersonator complete with talking points and gish gallop at them them as a debate opponent.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:35:40pm

re: #113 Kryptik

The problem isn’t them peddling this line. The problem is how much the media consistently swallows it. How, at best, it ends up as ‘both sides same thing’, with the unspoken corollary of ‘but the left is always worse and more monstrous in doing so and for doing so’.

True the media makes it a lot worse by MBFing everything in vain attempts to appear unbiased.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:36:06pm

re: #108 Nyet

Boo. I wish they’d make it so we could save gifs.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:37:24pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’d be the same DMVs that GOPs are underfunding/defunding and limiting hours as “cost cutting” measures that also diminish the ability of people to go and get ID that is essential for voting, especially in states where the GOP has instituted VoterID rules.

He’s for screwing people over with limited hours and poor service, because it’s in furtherance of reducing the pool of voters that oppose his jackassery.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:37:29pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:39:14pm

re: #109 Belafon

We’ve gone from Trump is the left’s fault to Trump’s followers are the left’s fault.

Rod doesn’t want Trump for POTUS…he just wants Trumps people to subjugate the Black Lives Matter people and “SJW mobs”…

Classic spring 1932 Germany. Use the brownshirts to get rid of the dirty commies.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:42:59pm

re: #117 lawhawk

That’d be the same DMVs that GOPs are underfunding/defunding and limiting hours as “cost cutting” measures that also diminish the ability of people to go and get ID that is essential for voting, especially in states where the GOP has instituted VoterID rules.

He’s for screwing people over with limited hours and poor service, because it’s in furtherance of reducing the pool of voters that oppose his jackassery.

Good point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:45:55pm

re: #118 Kragar

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That’s Convicted Felon Dinesh D’Souza to you, mister!
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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:46:12pm

re: #105 GlutenFreeJesus

Bah. Any way to save twitter gifs? I need this to text to friends. lol

Save GIF

read directions paste URL with status…and viola.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:46:49pm

re: #122 nines09

Paste this

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:47:32pm

re: #123 nines09

Well it works…Just copy the URL with the “status” in it…

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:49:33pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:49:42pm

Also telling that Rod is far more offended by BLM protesters using civil disobedience tactics than he is offended by police brutality and extrajudicial killings.

Rod loathes “radical individualism” and seems to think that the ‘wickedness’ of police brutality should be handled by…hell, who knows.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:49:58pm

re: #124 nines09

Click on it, takes to status page. Copy that minus Twitter certification. Download will show. Then you can save to your device.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:51:33pm

I wonder if any of those ginormous Costco pies will still be available when I get off work.

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No Depression  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:53:36pm

re: #126 Aunty Entity Dragon

Also telling that Rod is far more offended by BLM protesters using civil disobedience tactics than he is offended by police brutality and extrajudicial killings.

Rod loathes “radical individualism” and seems to think that the ‘wickedness’ of police brutality should be handled by…hell, who knows.

Those damn SJWs keeping the whites from eating peacefully at Woolworth! /

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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:54:10pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got a text from my youngest sister today asking WTF was up with my wingnut sister.

The wingnut sister just recently created a facebook page, and she’s already super deep into Jim Jones territory with a generous dollop of sanctimonious Christianity. She’s posting a flood of stuff about Obama having people killed and enthusiastically recommending that everyone go see the latest Dinesh D’Souza movie. I was going to comment about D’Souza’s history at King’s College (she’d think his felony conviction is all part of the conspiracy), but I don’t feel like having to deal with an angry screed. She’s the one who told me that Hillary should be in prison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:55:41pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

My brother is like that.
You have my sympathy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:56:12pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

I got a text from my youngest sister today asking WTF was up with my wingnut sister.

The wingnut sister just recently created a facebook page, and she’s already super deep into Jim Jones territory with a generous dollop of sanctimonious Christianity. She’s posting a flood of stuff about Obama having people killed and enthusiastically recommending that everyone go see the latest Dinesh D’Souza movie. I was going to comment about D’Souza’s history at King’s College (she’d think his felony conviction is all part of the conspiracy), but I don’t feel like having to deal with an angry screed. She’s the one who told me that Hillary should be in prison.

You have my sympathy. Fortunately, the closest relative I have who goes nuts like that on FB is a second cousin.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:56:22pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

“If Obama is as evil as you think he is, why are you allowed to say these things on Facebook?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:57:46pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

I got a text from my youngest sister today asking WTF was up with my wingnut sister.

.

I went looking for an old high school buddy who has since moved to Arkansas. Had one look at all the political posts on his FB page and decided not to try to contact him…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:58:01pm

re: #129 No Depression

Those damn SJWs keeping the whites from eating peacefully at Woolworth! /

Why would black people want to go where they’re not wanted? Like the nice neighborhood, or the good schools and universities, or the better hospital, or the lunch counter where they’re shopping and not take the bus (sitting in back of course) halfway across town?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 14, 2016 • 1:59:31pm

Anyways, we are starting to see the true face of Conservatism as it is practiced in America. It is not about principles or values, it is about making the world safe for people to pursue their limited self-interest without interference from government or society.

What we see are people at Breitbart pursuing their personal agendas, and as soon as they start to generate friction, they do not hesitate to turn on each other.

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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:04:56pm

re: #133 Belafon

“If Obama is as evil as you think he is, why are you allowed to say these things on Facebook?”

That won’t sink in. I don’t even want to snark at her. I almost posted this King’s College link, but then thought better.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:05:49pm

Breitbart senior editor-at-large Joel Pollak ordered staffers in an internal chatroom to stop defending Michelle Fields, the staffer who was allegedly manhandled by Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski.

The internal Breitbart Slack chats, which were obtained by BuzzFeed News, put on display the tension between those at Breitbart who want to act like a publisher — defending their reporter and finding the truth — and those entangled in politics.

“STOP tweeting about the story. Stop speculating about the story,” Pollak told staffers in one message, and reminded them that “you were given explicit instructions.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:07:30pm

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:08:21pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Lidane  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:08:34pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:09:14pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

F*ck th*t sh*t.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:09:33pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

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withak  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:10:06pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

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Is this the let-Trump-burn-it-all-down theory, where we rebuild a more tolerant society on top of the ashes? Or just a stupidly inflammatory headline?

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:10:37pm

re: #144 withak

Is this the let-Trump-burn-it-all-down theory, where we rebuild a more tolerant society on top of the ashes? Or just a stupidly inflammatory headline?

Yes.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:11:07pm

re: #140 Kragar

We gotta be careful though, don’t want to be all Free-Republic over it.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:11:34pm

re: #144 withak

Its “Cenk Uygur is a fucking moron”.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:12:19pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:12:49pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

After we eliminate all non-white non-Christian people, we’ll have exactly the kind of country we deserve.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:13:36pm

If you’re a progressive and you think the way forward for America is to allow the country to be dragged through the bowels of Hell for 4-8 years just so you can climb atop the rubble and plant your little flag of moral superiority, then you’re a contemptible human being and are the very antithesis of everything you supposedly stand for.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:15:04pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

If you’re a progressive and you think the way forward for America is to allow the country to be dragged through the bowels of Hell for 4-8 years just so you can climb atop the rubble and plant your little flag of moral superiority, then you’re a contemptible human being and are the very antithesis of everything you supposedly stand for.

That’s more than 140 characters, isn’t it.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:15:58pm

re: #151 wrenchwench

That’s more than 140 characters, isn’t it.

Yeah, you can tell I don’t tweet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:16:01pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

If you’re a progressive and you think the way forward for America is to allow the country to be dragged through the bowels of Hell for 4-8 years just so you can climb atop the rubble and plant your little flag of moral superiority, then you’re a contemptible human being and are the very antithesis of everything you supposedly stand for.

This is the same spirit of 19th century revolutionary romanticism that led people to believe that they had to totally destroy society in order to rebuild it from scratch.

They were somehow totally unmoved by the amount of human suffering that would involve.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:16:01pm
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Great White Snark  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:16:25pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

I’m stumped for what to do in June I really am. I would have to register an affiliation.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:17:11pm

If I burned my house down and murdered my family, could it all lead to a brighter tomorrow? Just asking……

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:19:32pm

re: #155 Great White Snark

I’m stumped for what to do in June I really am. I would have to register an affiliation.

Not according to klys in the last thread.

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Great White Snark  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:22:45pm

re: #157 Belafon

Not according to klys in the last thread.

Thanks i missed that…

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:23:27pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:24:50pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

My brother is like that.
You have my sympathy.

I have two brothers like that. At their age they should know better, but they’ve only gotten worse. One lives in Arizona so you can imagine how he thinks. My oldest brother and I have been very cool as far as a relationship since he found out I voted for Big Bill. That was in ‘92 so it shows how long things can last. Of course it didn’t help when he said back then he was considering joining something like Aryan Nation.

Family. What are you going to do. I sometimes wonder how I came from the same clan. As I’ve commented before, I was a late arrival surprise baby so in a way I am almost a complete generation apart and they were out of the house before I really came of age.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:25:28pm
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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:26:42pm

re: #161 Kragar

And then up pops Loki with The Trumpster. Life is a bitch.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:28:37pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

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Uh not just no but hell no. God fuck this shit.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:28:49pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

[Embedded content]

Is Cenk Uygur for reals or is he some kind of left leaning Alex Jones. I don’t see much of him, but when I do it is always a big WTF.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:29:15pm

re: #155 Great White Snark

I’m stumped for what to do in June I really am. I would have to register an affiliation.

Well, I sent in my request for the Democratic party presidential ballot last week, so I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe the rules are different down in LA? I’m a registered non-partisan voter, didn’t have to change my registration.

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Great White Snark  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:29:36pm

re: #157 Belafon

Not according to klys in the last thread.

Well maybe I misread the letter. But even at that, better to vote the Dem primary or the GOP primary to vote against Trump? Might mean vote the GOP side in the primary to vote against The Donald. If I become a member of the party I can always re register after the election back to decline to state I guess. If not no matter.

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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:31:25pm

re: #160 ObserverArt

Family. What are you going to do. I sometimes wonder how I came from the same clan. As I’ve commented before, I was a late arrival surprise baby so in a way I am almost a complete generation apart and they were out of the house before I really came of age.

My youngest sister are politically similar (although she’s Bernie and I’m Hillary) and we’re 16 years apart. My wingnut sister is one only 13 months younger than me, so it’s not always a generational thing.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:31:30pm
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Great White Snark  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:31:57pm

re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Well, I sent in my request for the Democratic party presidential ballot last week, so I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe the rules are different down in LA? I’m a registered non-partisan voter, didn’t have to change my registration.

Sorry I missed your reply earlier. Note to myself-use the search for replies later. I will re read the letter later.

But anyway I can’t vote against Trump with a Dem ballot in June. Whats the best thing to stand in his way?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:31:58pm

re: #166 Great White Snark

Well maybe I misread the letter. But even at that, better to vote the Dem primary or the GOP primary to vote against Trump? Might mean vote the GOP side in the primary to vote against The Donald. If I become a member of the party I can always re register after the election back to decline to state I guess. If not no matter.

I was registered non-partisan in 2008 and voted in the Democrat primary for presidential (for Obama!) and it didn’t change my registration to my knowledge. The Democrats have allowed independents to participate in their primaries before.

The Republicans don’t, which is why it wasn’t an option on the selection form. If requesting the ballot would change registration, I would have thought they would have included Republican as an option.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:32:03pm

re: #139 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I leave this here without comment beyond serious side-eye:

Could @realDonaldTrump Lead To A More Progressive America Than @HillaryClinton?

“Could the Sweet Meteor of Death Trigger Global Environmental Renewal?”

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:32:40pm

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This is the same spirit of 19th century revolutionary romanticism that led people to believe that they had to totally destroy society in order to rebuild it from scratch.

They were somehow totally unmoved by the amount of human suffering that would involve.

It’s the same spirit I’ve seen again and again, every 4 years. “If I don’t vote/vote third party/vote for the Republican, then the DNC will get the message and put up a far more progressive candidate!” And then they get absolutely confused when the DNC sees the regressive candidate gets elected, regressive candidates dominate the lower levels of government, and assume what voters want is a less progressive candidate on the next ballot.

I actually have more respect for Teabaggers at this point. When they decided they didn’t like the people in office, they busted their asses to drive them out through primary challenges, scaring the ever-loving shit out of the party and driving them further into the abyss. This primary season actually shows you could do the same for Democrats as well. But no, the Sandbaggers will just conclude from this that a progressive candidate will never win until the country is rubble.

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Brian J.  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:33:32pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

Is Cenk Uygur for reals or is he some kind of left leaning Alex Jones. I don’t see much of him, but when I do it is always a big WTF.

This is the BernieBros passing through the bargaining stage of grief. They have passed the “Bernie can win if he gets 66 percent of the vote in California” stage. Next comes the “this election is irrelevant” stage and then the “socialism in 2020!” stage.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:34:23pm

re: #169 Great White Snark

Sorry I missed your reply earlier. Note to myself-use the search for replies later. I will re read the letter later.

But anyway I can’t vote against Trump with a Dem ballot in June. Whats the best thing to stand in his way?

I’m not sure I consider any of the Republican options better than Trump, really. They’ll all pander to the base, and the base obviously likes what Trump is saying, so it’s really just a matter of degree.

I’d rather my vote be a positive one that I can feel good about.

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Brian J.  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:35:46pm

re: #171 Decatur Deb

“Could the Sweet Meteor of Death Trigger Global Environmental Renewal?”

Well, that was the message of The Day After Tomorrow…

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Jayleia  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:37:30pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

I wouldn’t say a left Alex Jones, and back in the Bush/early Obama era, they seemed like good pragmatic progressives.

I have NO idea what happened since then…I guess Obama didn’t give them unicorns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:40:55pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:42:24pm

I agree with Charles Pierce.

Having watched almost every second of the appalling events of the weekend just passed, I have a modest suggestion for all the groups working in rough alliance to keep the Republic out of the hands of a vulgar talking yam.

Stay out of the buildings.

Stop being played for such suckers. Stop enlisting yourself in his bloody vaudeville. Stop giving him stuff to lie about at all the rallies that actually do end up happening. Stop making yourselves part of the show, because it’s not working. It doesn’t affect him at all. In fact, his campaign gains strength from it, like some science-fiction monster that absorbs the energy of whatever attacks it and then uses it to destroy. It doesn’t gain you any allies; as should be clear by most of the meeping responses from the elite political press, the best it can get you is lectures about how Both Sides in our politics should settle down and let cooler heads ponder impotently about How We Got To This Point.

esquire.com

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Testy Toad T  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:43:21pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

It’s the same spirit I’ve seen again and again, every 4 years…

I can’t tell how many of them are serious about letting things go to hell under Trump rather than vote for Clinton, and how many of them are engaging in a collective look-how-pure-I-am circlejerk so their friends will think they’re hardcore.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:43:47pm

Off topic - other than this is something that will definitely not be discussed in those gnawing “debates” for fear of the truth - but the big science news of the day is this:

Oldest ancient-human DNA details dawn of Neanderthals

[…]

Meyer’s team managed to glean nuclear and mitochondrial DNA from five Sima samples, probably representing different individuals. A key factor in their success, says Meyer, was that since 2006, archaeologists had carefully refrigerated teeth and shoulder-blade tissue from the pit to preserve the ancient DNA — awaiting advanced molecular-analysis techniques.

The nuclear DNA, Meyer’s team reports in Nature on 14 March, shows that the Sima hominins are in fact early Neanderthals. And its age suggests that the early predecessors of humans diverged from those of Neanderthals between 550,000 and 765,000 years ago — too far back for the common ancestors of both to have been Homo heidelbergensis, as some had posited.

Researchers should now be looking for a population that lived around 700,000 to 900,000 years ago, says Martinón-Torres. She thinks that Homo antecessor, known from 900,000-year-old remains from Spain, is the strongest candidate for the common ancestor, if such specimens can be found in Africa or the Middle East.

The team’s latest mitochondrial sequences, meanwhile, again confirm the puzzling link between the Sima hominins and the Denisovans. Meyer suggests that the ancestors of the two groups carried mitochondrial DNA that is reflected in both — but which is not present in later Neanderthals. This elimination could have happened by chance, but Meyer now favours the hypothesis that an as yet unknown species from Africa migrated to Eurasia and bred with Neanderthals, replacing the mitochondrial DNA lineages. (Supporting this idea, stone-tool technologies spread from Africa to Eurasia around half a million years ago, and again 250,000 years ago).

[…]

The letter is viewable:

Nuclear DNA sequences from the Middle Pleistocene Sima de los Huesos hominins

Fascinating stuff, and above anything else it shows how we had sister species that hung around… and then went extinct (save for the tiny bits we preserve, through some sexual encounters, in our DNA today.)

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Timothy Watson  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:44:21pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

I agree with Charles Pierce.

I’ve honestly wondered if some of the protesters have been paid by the Trump campaign.

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:45:30pm
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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:45:51pm
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:46:08pm

Bernie has a chance of winning Missouri and Illinois tomorrow, but at the end of the day Hillary will still have won more delegates on that day.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:46:36pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

I agree with Charles Pierce.

At the risk of MBFing, so do I. The street belongs to everyone, the hall belongs to the people who choose to peacefully assemble there.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:46:40pm

re: #176 Jayleia

I wouldn’t say a left Alex Jones, and back in the Bush/early Obama era, they seemed like good pragmatic progressives.

I have NO idea what happened since then…I guess Obama didn’t give them unicorns.

Cenk was at a meeting to gather on-air talent for what became Air America that I attended. He thought he was a lock, but he didn’t make the cut.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:46:48pm

re: #179 Testy Toad T

I can’t tell how many of them are serious about letting things go to hell under Trump rather than vote for Clinton, and how many of them are engaging in a collective look-how-pure-I-am circlejerk so their friends will think they’re hardcore.

I totally believe it, because I remember it well from 2004, when they decided that as bad as Bush had been, Kerry was not sufficiently progressive so they’d rather just sit out another 4 years and hope Bush would be impeached. It’s the same game every 4 years, they get all their hopes up that their uber-progressive candidates will run, then they don’t so they downgrade to somebody who’s at least singing the right tune, then they flame out and the emoprogs decide that there’s no point to voting and they’ll just sit on their asses for another 4 years in the hopes that the country will have degraded to the point of such desperation that their uber-progressive candidate will rise to the top.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:47:19pm

Dawn of the Neanderthals - Now there is a movie title waiting to happen.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:47:59pm

re: #184 freetoken

Bernie has a chance of winning Missouri and Illinois tomorrow, but at the end of the day Hillary will still have won more delegates on that day.

But winning Illinois will mean that Bernie has momentum! He’ll be on his way to winning the nomination! We’ll take this all the way to convention! And if we don’t get what we want, then we’re voting Trump!

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:49:10pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

I agree with Charles Pierce.

I would agree that protesters need to do everything they can to not do anything violent themselves, but the whole don’t provide fuel for the other side sounds a bit like comfortable people telling others things will get better if they just wait.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:49:13pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:49:52pm

re: #191 Kragar

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Rage Furby 2020: Twitter Will Fall!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:50:08pm

So that Maryland cop that was killed when the gunmen attacked the police station….. It was friendly fire.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:50:10pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

There’s something like 792 Democratic delegates available tomorrow. I bet Hillary ends up with around 450 of them.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:50:59pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

Protest outside? Definitely. In fact get enough people to protest so the crowd outside is larger than the one on the inside but I definitely agree with Pierce. Going inside just to be dragged out, while it looks horrible on TV, is playing into Trump’s tiny hands.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:51:07pm

re: #194 freetoken

There’s something like 792 Democratic delegates available tomorrow. I bet Hillary ends up with around 450 of them.

I suspect she’ll walk away with the bulk of the delegates, but also with the media squealing about “surprise upsets” and talk that Bernie could still win…if the planets properly align.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:51:19pm

I already put my vote in for Hillary in IL so there’s nothing more I can do. Good luck to both of them. :)

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:51:43pm

re: #181 Timothy Watson

I’ve honestly wondered if some of the protesters have been paid by the Trump campaign.

One way or another, he has never lacked for them.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:53:44pm

re: #198 Decatur Deb

I think there was one rally yesterday where none made a noise or were dragged out and he tried to egg them on to stand up and protest.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:54:03pm

re: #199 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I think there was one rally yesterday where none made a noise or were dragged out and he tried to egg them on to stand up and protest.

Boca Raton

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:54:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:55:22pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:55:40pm

Thing is, the protests at rallies have become such a thing that if they just suddenly stopped showing up and being dragged out, The Donald would proceed to declare it evidence that his manliness and that of his supporters had scared them off. That the opposition has become so resigned to his eventual victory that they’re not even bothering to show up anymore.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:55:55pm

re: #199 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I think there was one rally yesterday where none made a noise or were dragged out and he tried to egg them on to stand up and protest.

Might be adapting his shtick. The Trump campaign has shown some response to bad press, though it seems to revert quickly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:56:22pm

re: #130 stpaulbear

I got a text from my youngest sister today asking WTF was up with my wingnut sister.

The wingnut sister just recently created a facebook page, and she’s already super deep into Jim Jones territory with a generous dollop of sanctimonious Christianity. She’s posting a flood of stuff about Obama having people killed and enthusiastically recommending that everyone go see the latest Dinesh D’Souza movie. I was going to comment about D’Souza’s history at King’s College (she’d think his felony conviction is all part of the conspiracy), but I don’t feel like having to deal with an angry screed. She’s the one who told me that Hillary should be in prison.

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

My brother is like that.
You have my sympathy.

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

You have my sympathy. Fortunately, the closest relative I have who goes nuts like that on FB is a second cousin.

Fuck you all, I have to live with a shouty wingnutty old man.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:57:00pm

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

Fuck you all, I have to live with a shouty wingnutty old man.

That’s what they invented duct tape for.

//

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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:57:27pm

re: #195 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Protest outside? Definitely. In fact get enough people to protest so the crowd outside is larger than the one on the inside but I definitely agree with Pierce. Going inside just to be dragged out, while it looks horrible on TV, is playing into Trump’s tiny hands.

I don’t feel like this woman should have been told to keep her protest out of the hall. Her silent protest shined a light on the bigotry of Trump’s followers.

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MsJ  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:58:09pm

re: #197 GlutenFreeJesus

I already put my vote in for Hillary in IL so there’s nothing more I can do. Good luck to both of them. :)

I did, too. But my vote is likely to get canceled out by my adopted daughter who will probably vote Bernie…unless my Realism talk made her think a little bit.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2016 • 2:58:15pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

I totally believe it, because I remember it well from 2004, when they decided that as bad as Bush had been, Kerry was not sufficiently progressive so they’d rather just sit out another 4 years and hope Bush would be impeached. It’s the same game every 4 years, they get all their hopes up that their uber-progressive candidates will run, then they don’t so they downgrade to somebody who’s at least singing the right tune, then they flame out and the emoprogs decide that there’s no point to voting and they’ll just sit on their asses for another 4 years in the hopes that the country will have degraded to the point of such desperation that their uber-progressive candidate will rise to the top.

The irony is that this same shit happens fairly regularly on the Republican side. GWBush betrayed them, McCain and Romney were RINO’s foisted upon them by the establishment, the true conservatives were always frozen out. That has all led to the 2016 Republican Primary.

I think what the movement types on both sides often forget is that they both make up minorities of the electorate. Most people don’t have the time/energy/inclination to care about politics on a daily basis. Add to that the fact that the vast majority of voters aren’t particularly ideological - at least not in the sense that the movement types are. Most people vote for the person/party they think best represents them and then trusts that the politicians they sent to Washington or the state capital will do their damn jobs - just like they, the voters, are expected to every day.

Maybe that changes a bit this year. Maybe people look up and realize that Donald Fucking Trump, that short fingered vulgarian loudmouth oaf, is actually a nominee from one of the two major parties.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:01:13pm

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

Fuck you all, I have to live with a shouty wingnutty old man.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:01:44pm

My dad has actually been out of town for the last month due to work-related training, so I haven’t had a chance to see how he’s reacted to the whole election business for awhile. I’m actually dreading the thought that he’ll come back in a week and start talking about how he’s okay with voting for Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:03:51pm

re: #159 wrenchwench

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Rango’s worst nightmare after the scary goats shot him with electricity out of their funky eyes.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:04:11pm

re: #207 stpaulbear

I don’t feel like this woman should have been told to keep her protest out of the hall. Her silent protest shined a light on the bigotry of Trump’s followers.

She became a prop for Trump, amplifying his message to his xenophobes.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:05:28pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

She became a prop for Trump, amplifying his message to his xenophobes.

I do think there’s something to be said for the idea that if you ignore a stain on the body politic like Trump, it might fade away.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:07:07pm

re: #190 Belafon

I would agree that protesters need to do everything they can to not do anything violent themselves, but the whole don’t provide fuel for the other side sounds a bit like comfortable people telling others things will get better if they just wait.

Going inside is what Trump wants. He and the goon squads want conflict and scenes of progressives getting smacked around and thrown to the ground. It feeds into their “strong man” narrative, fires up his supporters, and the news media is NOT pushing back with any force at all.

If you keep getting swindled in a game…stop playing the game.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:07:17pm

re: #205 The Vicious Babushka

Fuck you all, I have to live with a shouty wingnutty old man.

There’s a reason I’m glad I left home. Fishfolk and all the family and friends are wingnuts.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:07:25pm

It’s not like 10% of the population has suddenly gone crazy for racist authoritarian douchebaggery. There are certainly some socioeconomic factors that are making them a bit louder right now, but they’ve been there the whole time. They were merely tamped down, placated, or ignored.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:08:26pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:09:05pm

re: #215 Aunty Entity Dragon

Going inside is what Trump wants. He and the goon squads want conflict and scenes of progressives getting smacked around and thrown to the ground. It feeds into their “strong man” narrative, fires up his supporters, and the news media is NOT pushing back with any force at all.

If you keep getting swindled in a game…stop playing the game.

Yeah, but we’re dealing with a bullshit artist, which means he’ll find ways to spin the protests or lack thereof to his advantage. If they stay outside, he’ll puff up his chest and say they’re “too afraid” to come inside. And he’ll continue to insist that they’re only showing up because Bernie/the DNC are sending them to “shut him up.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:10:13pm

re: #180 freetoken

Off topic - other than this is something that will definitely not be discussed in those gnawing “debates” for fear of the truth - but the big science news of the day is this:

Oldest ancient-human DNA details dawn of Neanderthals

The letter is viewable:

Nuclear DNA sequences from the Middle Pleistocene Sima de los Huesos hominins

Fascinating stuff, and above anything else it shows how we had sister species that hung around… and then went extinct (save for the tiny bits we preserve, through some sexual encounters, in our DNA today.)

Just goes to show you - if it’s even vaguely human, someone will fuck it.
/////

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:10:42pm

re: #207 stpaulbear

I don’t feel like this woman should have been told to keep her protest out of the hall. Her silent protest shined a light on the bigotry of Trump’s followers.

To who? Right now, the silent non verbal protests are being lumped together with everything else and Trump is using that to paint ALL OF THE PROTESTERS as provocateurs.

The media is NOT backing up the non violent protest angle since the Chicago debacle, and feeding the Trump beast does our side no favors.

Protest outside the venue in friendly territory or at one of Trump’s properties.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:10:57pm

re: #219 Targetpractice

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:11:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:11:08pm

Kalamazoo shooter claims he was “possessed” by Satanic Uber

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Testy Toad T  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:12:08pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

When you’re able to substantially humanize a walking piece of fuck-faced excrement like Ted Cruz…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:12:10pm

re: #214 Testy Toad T

I do think there’s something to be said for the idea that if you ignore a stain on the body politic like Trump, it might fade away.

Trump does not win unless we legitimize him. There is a vast difference between effective demonstrations and ill-disciplined reaction. The 60s Civil Rights actions were marked by planning, marshalling and training. Without that you are open to every kind of nutcase and provocateur. Selma worked, the Days of Rage failed spectacularly.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:13:25pm

re: #218 Kragar

Well if they didn’t like it they should have said something.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:13:31pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

That’s what they invented duct tape for.

//

And if he’s really hairy, you threaten to pull it off.
///

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:13:34pm

re: #218 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I LIKE PEOPLE WHO AREN’T DEAD, OK!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:13:42pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:13:50pm

re: #219 Targetpractice

Yeah, but we’re dealing with a bullshit artist, which means he’ll find ways to spin the protests or lack thereof to his advantage. If they stay outside, he’ll puff up his chest and say they’re “too afraid” to come inside. And he’ll continue to insist that they’re only showing up because Bernie/the DNC are sending them to “shut him up.”

You cannot control what he says, so don’t bother. Just refuse to give him the public physical confrontations he wants.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:14:31pm

re: #229 The Vicious Babushka

I LIKE PEOPLE WHO AREN’T DEAD, OK!

!!1 Vivist !!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:14:46pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:15:39pm

re: #231 Aunty Entity Dragon

You cannot control what he says, so don’t bother. Just refuse to give him the public physical confrontations he wants.

Problem is the media’s hanging on his every word and are actively spinning the news to support it. He declares that the protesters are “afraid” and the media will be along shortly thereafter to debate whether or not people are staying away because they are afraid of him and if that means foreign leaders will respect us because we have a president who they fear.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:16:24pm

re: #224 The Vicious Babushka

At least he was still able to get a gun. That’s the important thing here.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:18:15pm
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urbanmeemaw  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:18:40pm

re: #181 Timothy Watson

I’ve honestly wondered if some of the protesters have been paid by the Trump campaign.

I, too, agree with Pierce and I have wondered the same thing. Hasn’t he had paid audience members at his rallies? What’s to say he wouldn’t have paid protesters as well. Plus, he’s a veteran of reality shows and WWE. He knows how to please an audience and keep it interested.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:18:54pm

re: #231 Aunty Entity Dragon

You cannot control what he says, so don’t bother. Just refuse to give him the public physical confrontations he wants.

Trump is selling fear, hate, and violence to his followers. The protesters are showing the rest of us the results.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:20:09pm

re: #217 Testy Toad T

It’s not like 10% of the population has suddenly gone crazy for racist authoritarian douchebaggery. There are certainly some socioeconomic factors that are making them a bit louder right now, but they’ve been there the whole time. They were merely tamped down, placated, or ignored.

“Proper society” had its decorum.

But in the age of Twitter, decorum is out the window.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:20:32pm

re: #237 urbanmeemaw

I, too, agree with Pierce and I have wondered the same thing. Hasn’t he had paid audience members at his rallies? What’s to say he wouldn’t have paid protesters as well. Plus, he’s a veteran of reality shows and WWE. He knows how to please an audience and keep it interested.

‘Xactly.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:20:53pm

Seriously, after the violence in Chicago, Trump goes to the media and accuses Bernie of being responsible by ordering his supporters to disrupt the rallies. The next day, Bernie gets asked twice by the media if he’s giving such orders while people like Morning Joke are playing MBF with the “Both Sides Do It!” mantra. Coming next will be the media “asking” Bernie to order his supporters to leave Trump alone.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:22:46pm

re: #216 thedopefishlives

There’s a reason I’m glad I left home. Fishfolk and all the family and friends are wingnuts.

That’s my family as well, going to go spend 5 days visiting them in May. Part of me is looking forward to seeing them all and given Dad’s lung cancer it’s important that I do go see them but I am not looking forward to FOX Noise being on every television or the inevitable political debates (aka shouting matches) between me and Dad that end up with us disagreeing but not agreeing to disagree.

A few years back when he was out here visiting he actually said to my Father-in-law that all liberals were traitors. I told him I guess that makes me a traitor too. He did shut up after that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:23:26pm

re: #238 Belafon

Trump is selling fear, hate, and violence to his followers. The protesters are showing the rest of us the results.

Protestors should stand outside his rallies with these signs (women should wear a sign I AM A WOMAN)

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:24:23pm
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:24:30pm

Figures SMOTI would retweet this nonsense.

Let’s just ignore the DARVO tactics right wing extremists use. And that includes Hoft’s incessant lies and smears.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:24:36pm

If your goal is to shine a light on the bad behavior of others, you need to be better than the people you’re protesting.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:24:44pm

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Protestors should stand outside his rallies with these signs (women should wear a sign I AM A WOMAN)

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“I Am a Long-fingered Man”

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:26:07pm

re: #243 The Vicious Babushka

Protestors should stand outside his rallies with these signs (women should wear a sign I AM A WOMAN)

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We were a different people then. We still were capable of shame.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:26:22pm

If the protests stay strictly outside, expect Trump and/or his supporters to just move the violence outside.

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gocart mozart  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:26:24pm
I don’t feel like this woman should have been told to keep her protest out of the hall. Her silent protest shined a light on the bigotry of Trump’s followers.

There should be more protests like that.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:26:34pm

re: #242 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That’s my family as well, going to go spend 5 days visiting them in May. Part of me is looking forward to seeing them all and given Dad’s lung cancer it’s important that I do go see them but I am not looking forward to FOX Noise being on every television or the inevitable political debates (aka shouting matches) between me and Dad that end up with us disagreeing but not agreeing to disagree.

A few years back when he was out here visiting he actually said to my Father-in-law that all liberals were traitors. I told him I guess that makes me a traitor too. He did shut up after that.

I’m still a closeted liberal. My parents may have their suspicions, but I just kinda nod and smile and let the topic of conversation wander on to something else.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:26:40pm

I just realized the most important primaries in the Republican nomination occur on March 15.

Beware the Ides of March, indeed.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:27:21pm

re: #244 Kragar

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But yet I’ve got wingnuts who’ll swear to me that Trump is a “different kind of politician” who doesn’t engage in such behavior.

Right.//////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:28:15pm

re: #252 KGxvi

I just realized the most important primaries in the Republican nomination occur on March 15.

Beware the Ides of March, indeed.

Well, Trump’s ambitious for sure. But none of his GOP Primary opponents are honorable men.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:28:53pm

re: #252 KGxvi

I just realized the most important primaries in the Republican nomination occur on March 15.

Beware the Ides of March, indeed.

The haruspices at 538 favor Trump and HRC.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:29:42pm

re: #253 Targetpractice

But yet I’ve got wingnuts who’ll swear to me that Trump is a “different kind of politician” who doesn’t engage in such behavior.

Right.//////

But he IS different. He’s been the one GIVING the bribes, not taking them.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:29:51pm

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, Trump’s ambitious for sure. But none of his GOP Primary opponents are honorable men.

Christie offered him a crown thrice.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:30:09pm

re: #255 Decatur Deb

The haruspices at 538 favor Trump and HRC.

Here we must interject that no pig, goat, or bird was harmed in the production of 538 forecasts.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:31:04pm

re: #258 freetoken

Here we must interject that no pig, goat, or bird was harmed in the production of 538 forecasts.

CAT scans took all the authenticity out of the rituals.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:31:19pm

re: #258 freetoken

Here we must interject that no pig, goat, or bird was harmed in the production of 538 forecasts.

Though some tea leaves might have been abused.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:31:41pm

re: #150 Targetpractice

If you’re a progressive and you think the way forward for America is to allow the country to be dragged through the bowels of Hell for 4-8 years just so you can climb atop the rubble and plant your little flag of moral superiority, then you’re a contemptible human being and are the very antithesis of everything you supposedly stand for.

Because they’re too fucking lazy to do it the right way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:33:25pm

re: #261 TedStriker

Because they’re too fucking lazy to do it the right way.

It’s just “You’ll all appreciate me when I’m gone!” writ large.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:33:43pm

re: #260 Targetpractice

Though some tea leaves might have been abused.

… leaves of all types…

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:33:56pm

re: #251 thedopefishlives

I’m still a closeted liberal. My parents may have their suspicions, but I just kinda nod and smile and let the topic of conversation wander on to something else.

Growing up I was just like my folks though I didn’t hate the Clintons as much as my dad did, I blame that on listening to Rush Limbaugh. Once we got cable and FOX News (after I moved out) it just got worse. Everyone in the town really is a dittohead FOX addict and it drives me nuts.

It’s one reason why my wife and I are getting a motel room this time around, so we’re not trapped at the house the whole time.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:36:37pm

re: #264 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Growing up I was just like my folks though I didn’t hate the Clintons as much as my dad did, I blame that on listening to Rush Limbaugh. Once we got cable and FOX News (after I moved out) it just got worse. Everyone in the town really is a dittohead FOX addict and it drives me nuts.

It’s one reason why my wife and I are getting a motel room this time around, so we’re not trapped at the house the whole time.

Motel rooms are a necessity when visiting the RWNJ clan. Decompression chambers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:38:19pm

re: #264 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Growing up I was just like my folks though I didn’t hate the Clintons as much as my dad did, I blame that on listening to Rush Limbaugh. Once we got cable and FOX News (after I moved out) it just got worse. Everyone in the town really is a dittohead FOX addict and it drives me nuts.

It’s one reason why my wife and I are getting a motel room this time around, so we’re not trapped at the house the whole time.

We did that one time, after hearing my Mom complain any number of times about all 6 of us and our spouses and spawn descending like locusts to eat all their food, use all their dishes, and dirty all their sheets and towels. We were trying to be nice. Mom was insulted.

Sometimes you just can’t win.

On the plus side, the only political arguments were between Liberal and REALLY Liberal.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:38:34pm

re: #265 Stanley Sea

Motel rooms are a necessity when visiting the RWNJ clan. Decompression chambers.

Yup. That’s why I am getting one this time.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:39:37pm

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

They have no problem feeding us and never guilt trip us on that, in fact they usually offer to let us stay just so we don’t have to pay for a motel. However I suggested they invite my brother up for the weekend while we are out there so they can stay at the house and use the guest room while we get the motel.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:42:38pm

re: #264 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Growing up I was just like my folks though I didn’t hate the Clintons as much as my dad did, I blame that on listening to Rush Limbaugh. Once we got cable and FOX News (after I moved out) it just got worse. Everyone in the town really is a dittohead FOX addict and it drives me nuts.

It’s one reason why my wife and I are getting a motel room this time around, so we’re not trapped at the house the whole time.

My folks are pretty good about not dropping too many political bombs while we’re at the house. It usually works out to the equivalent of one Rush Limbaugh-style rant every 2-3 days, which is the typical length of a home visit, so about once every trip. More at Christmas.

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Kragar  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:45:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:49:35pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:50:50pm

Delaware Republican Party official, repeat state senate candidate, indicted last year, had initially pleaded not guilty to the charges…
Sad Oath Keepers also made me smile:

The head of the Oath Keepers gun militia group, which claimed Opaliski as a member, complained that the state’s Republican Party was insufficiently supportive.

“Looks like the Republican party there is more than happy to throw him under the bus if it is in ‘the best interest of the party first and foremost,’” said Stewart Rhodes, the Oath Keepers founder.

But, my favorite part of the whole article?

An online fundraiser for Opaliski’s legal defense has generated $2,177 in 12 months.

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fern01  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:54:06pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

I agree with Charles Pierce.

Not sure I agree with Charles - the dems are always being told - don’t stoop to their level - do the right thing - let them be seen as the stupid - and then what happens - the GOP wins.Took the President a few years to work this one out - by which time the GOP had successfully screwed congress - voted for nothing & taken over the state houses.

What Charles misses is the media’s role in all this - they are the third arm of the GOP. If the media played this straight, Trump would be carrying the blame - ALL of it. None of this violence happened in the last 2 presidential elections - only difference I see is Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:55:36pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:58:26pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:58:38pm

re: #273 fern01

The thing is, there is no independent media any more. There are huge corporations that have media subsidiaries, but they run them as profit centers, not information providers.

As long as things stay as they are the media will just keep sinking lower and lower to capture audience share, and the Trump freak show shows that there’s no level too foul for them to descend to.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 3:58:45pm

re: #273 fern01

snip…

What Charles misses is the media’s role in all this - they are the third arm of the GOP. If the media played this straight, Trump would be carrying the blame - ALL of it. None of this violence happened in the last 2 presidential elections - only difference I see is Trump.

“All conscientious scruples — all generous feelings must give way to our inexorable duty — which is to keep the public mind in a healthy state of excitement, and experience has taught us that blood alone can do this.”
—Mark Twain on fellow reporters, 1863

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:00:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:00:19pm

re: #275 FormerDirtDart

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Trump does not have “tiny” hands. He has regular-sized hands with short stubby fingers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:00:55pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:01:05pm

Can we wall off Ohio?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:06:21pm

so mature

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:07:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:07:38pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:09:26pm

re: #281 Dr. Matt

Can we wall off Ohio?

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LOL is that the same guy who had a Romney/Ryan logo tattooed on his face 4 years ago?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:09:41pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:10:23pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t read it. What’s it say?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:11:38pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:11:44pm

re: #287 Skip Intro

I can’t read it. What’s it say?

Hillary doesn’t suck, ask Bill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:12:02pm

First of all, what in the hell is going on here? The news all morning was that Todd Palin had been seriously injured in a snow machine accident—which, apparently, is true—and that Princess Dumbass was hastening back to the Northwoods to be with him. Suddenly, she’s back in Florida, working on her meatball rhetorical skills in front of an audience packed with the finest rubes and goobers that state has to offer. Multitasking! And she was speechifying with words for the purposes of introducing Big Chicken, who took the stage with the very last shreds of human dignity wafting away on the breeze. No job in any administration is worth this kind of humiliation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:12:43pm

re: #287 Skip Intro

I can’t read it. What’s it say?

Ou5LnBlGGdRSZJwvTUvG0+23/ZjjuriI67XWNRPyeXADdBCSs809Pw==

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:13:26pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well I know that guy won’t get thrown out.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:14:12pm

re: #281 Dr. Matt

Can we wall off Ohio?

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Hey…hey…hey!

Grrrrrrrr.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:14:34pm

3rd world country?

42% unemployment?

People making 19 votes?

It’s almost like Donald Trump is taking existing wingnut tropes and making them bigger and angrier.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:14:37pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump dragged a $20 bill in front of her as she was getting ready to leave.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:14:50pm

re: #287 Skip Intro

I can’t read it. What’s it say?

>>>>Beat me to it<<<<
Such Classy!!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:15:14pm

Looks like Chuck’s drunk already.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:16:10pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Interesting phenomenon—“Youngstown” isn’t Youngstown any more. It’s anyplace in the Youngstown TV market. Trump isn’t aiming for the rubes at the rally, today’s target is Ohio and the national cable news reach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:16:16pm

re: #294 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

3rd world country?

42% unemployment?

People making 19 votes?

It’s almost like Donald Trump is taking existing wingnut tropes and making them bigger and angrier.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:16:33pm

re: #297 Charles Johnson

Looks like Chuck’s drunk already.

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Ohhh, I think that’s clearly intentional…..

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:16:57pm

re: #294 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

3rd world country?

42% unemployment?

People making 19 votes?

It’s almost like Donald Trump is taking existing wingnut tropes and making them bigger and angrier.

Trump sure does love America, doesn’t he? Never misses a chance to put it down by lying about it.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:17:30pm

re: #297 Charles Johnson

heh, “who would be his No. 2?” Just when I was losing faith in humanity, someone on the internet makes a terrible poop joke and I’m back in.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:18:02pm

re: #302 KGxvi

heh, “who would be his No. 2?” Just when I was losing faith in humanity, someone on the internet makes a terrible poop joke and I’m back in.

Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:18:05pm

re: #297 Charles Johnson

Looks like Chuck’s drunk already.

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One of the responses to Chris’s tweet asked him if he knew that he looked like Rachel.
Definite lame attempt at an insult on Rage Furby’s part.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:18:06pm

re: #297 Charles Johnson

How do you divvy up the drunk stupid and the vainglorious stupid from the regular stupid?

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fern01  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:19:26pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

And she was speechifying with words for the purposes of introducing Big Chicken, who took the stage with the very last shreds of human dignity wafting away on the breeze. No job in any administration is worth this kind of humiliation.

Still trying to work out what Trump did to/offered Christie - sometimes my imagination has a few ideas.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:19:56pm

re: #301 Skip Intro

We are the greatest country of Earth, the most free, and especially blessed; but also God is angry and punishing us, we’re moments from having our rights stolen, and we’re weak as a kitten and a laughingstock.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:20:45pm

Again with the snake story

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:21:12pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again with the snake story

I heard about this. It’s not very original.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:21:22pm

re: #306 fern01

Still trying to work out what Trump did to/offered Christie - sometimes my imagination has a few ideas.

He’s a Republican governor. What wouldn’t he do for a Klondike bar?

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:21:48pm

re: #294 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

3rd world country?

42% unemployment?

People making 19 votes?

It’s almost like Donald Trump is taking existing wingnut tropes and making them bigger and angrier.

This is what will end up killing our democracy. Nearly half the country can no longer even recognize basic empirical facts and they will swarm to anybody who will tell the biggest and brightest angry lie.

This is a complete failure of education, media, national leadership and every individual American who lives in the epistemic bubble through fear and ignorance. It is going to kill the Republic.

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:21:55pm

TPP will ruin car business, but his plan by taxing car companies won’t.

Okay.

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:22:35pm

re: #294 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

It’s almost exactly like Donald Trump is taking existing wingnut tropes and making them bigger and angrier.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:22:44pm

re: #306 fern01

Still trying to work out what Trump did to/offered Christie - sometimes my imagination has a few ideas.

Trump probably has more dirt on Christie than the FBI.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:23:56pm

re: #314 Skip Intro

Trump probably has more dirt on Christie than the FBI.

Either a VP slot or Attorney General. Probably VP after Trump watched Christie demolish Rubio.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:25:04pm
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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:25:06pm

re: #306 fern01

Christie hit the limit of his inroads into GOP power structure. He’s not “religious” enough, in the very narrow particular way that religion is constructed by CPAC goers; he’s not “patriotic” enough, in the intense jingoistic, martial nonsense way. He’s a businessman Republican when that the group that (1) is experiencing flaccid base support, (2) is overstuffed with candidates that are double and triple threats, being fiscal *and* social wingnuts.

The Trump gamble actually makes a bunch of sense, especially since he’s out as Governor. It’s chance at an appointment, and even if it fails, of failing upward into a lobbying job creating by the new populist-nutbag niche that Trump is forged in the fires of Mt Doom.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:25:27pm

re: #311 Aunty Entity Dragon

This is what will end up killing our democracy. Nearly half the country can no longer even recognize basic empirical facts and they will swarm to anybody who will tell the biggest and brightest angry lie.

This is a complete failure of education, media, national leadership and every individual American who lives in the epistemic bubble through fear and ignorance. It is going to kill the Republicans.

FTF all of us with three letters on the end.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:25:38pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again with the snake story

So WEIRD

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BeachDem  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:25:48pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again with the snake story

When he tells the snake story, is he the snake?

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:25:50pm
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fern01  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:26:25pm

re: #315 Aunty Entity Dragon

Either a VP slot or Attorney General. Probably VP after Trump watched Christie demolish Rubio.

And if Christie believes that Trump would honor such a promise (let alone get elected) - we could sell him a bridge to close down.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:26:31pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

Poem, I think it’s supposed to be a poem.

It’s a not very subtle way of demeaning possible refugees.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:26:56pm

re: #323 freetoken

Poem, I think it’s supposed to be a poem.

It’s a not very subtle way of demeaning possible refugees.

I know

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Jenner7  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:28:21pm

Wowee.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:29:32pm

Oh FFS…

That delicate snowflake Dreher is demanding some sort of revolution against those pesky academic social justice warriors (mwuhahahahahahahahahahaha!) who offer a (one, 1, uno, eins) unisex restroom for trans people.

A reader tweeted this out from the annual conference of college administrators who run student life. He said, “Rod Dreher is not making this junk up.” He added that he did not see any single-gender restrooms onsite.

When will people just stop honoring this stuff? Read the language on the poster — it is prim and alien and just weird. And culturally aggressive. Keep pushing this garbage, you SJWs in academic power, and you will reap the whirlwind.

This is at the Indianapolis Convention Center…which has dozens and dozens of restrooms for everybody. I have been there more than once.

But one restroom for transpeople is too damned much for Pearl Clutching Dreher.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:30:26pm

re: #320 BeachDem

I’d say he’s leaving it to the audience. I suspect they have a very long list of “snakes.”

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:30:59pm

re: #325 Jenner7

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Wowee.

Trump could save time if he just put a jar on the podium labeled “Christie’s Balls” every time he has the soulless putz show up with him on a campaign stop.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:31:20pm

re: #320 BeachDem

When he tells the snake story, is he the snake?

He is but the loons don’t get it.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:32:06pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:32:11pm

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:33:10pm

re: #325 Jenner7

Okay, I’ve got give Trump some baller credit for that.

He understands the pornographic quality of populist politics. Direct, onstage humiliation of a target is brilliant, and doing it to Chris Christie—who pioneered the money-shot insult-a-captive style—is just perfect heel.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:33:13pm

re: #325 Jenner7

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Wowee.

Trump could get Christie to bark like a seal then throw him a fish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:35:47pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:35:57pm

Will there be armbands?

crooksandliars.com

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:35:59pm

re: #331 The Vicious Babushka

After all, who are all the non-working folks who are attending these rallies for Trump during the day? No-show jobs? Unemployed? Retirees?

Works both ways.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:37:46pm

On Friday night a couple was hit in the crosswalk a block from where I was hit and a block from here. The woman was flown to the same hospital I was. She died over the weekend. The man with her was treated at the local hospital and released.

It’s time for me to walk home. At least it’s in the opposite direction.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:37:49pm
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gwangung  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:38:17pm

re: #334 The Vicious Babushka

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Hey! I know Alec!

And, damn right!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:43:31pm
Sarah Palin’s husband Todd is recovering after a Sunday night snowmobile accident that left him with eight fractured ribs and other injuries.

Todd Palin’s father, Jim Palin, told The Associated Press that his son also had injuries to his collarbone and lungs from what he called “one of those freak accidents.” The elder Palin said his son was scheduled for surgery today at a hospital near the Palins’ hometown of Wasilla. He expected his son to fully recover.

npr.org

yeah, that’s gonna hurt for a long time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:43:34pm

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:44:23pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So again, he makes himself look like our own Ron Paul, only running under the Dem flag because he couldn’t get taken seriously otherwise.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:44:33pm

I understand that Tweety is “moderating” Clinton’s town hall as has asked most of the questions himself. Occasionally he even lets her answer, but not often.

I have no idea why she agreed to do this with him.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:44:54pm

re: #338 wrenchwench

On Friday night a couple was hit in the crosswalk a block from where I was hit and a block from here. The woman was flown to the same hospital I was. She died over the weekend. The man with her was treated at the local hospital and released.

It’s time for me to walk home. At least it’s in the opposite direction.

My God…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:45:24pm

re: #342 The Vicious Babushka

Obvious Shitlord is obvious.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:46:41pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

Obvious Shitlord is obvious.

Wingnuts are in a frenzy that this is an actual “Bernie Supporter”

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:47:01pm

re: #342 The Vicious Babushka

So that’s what posts within Twitter’s TOS look like. I can see why CCJ wants back in so badly.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:47:51pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

You watch the big lie being crafted in real time and set into stone for all eternity. It a bit like a real life version of The Lottery where the wingnuts have to decide who gets the paper with the black dot and then their unstated social rules require them to retroactively justify why they had to have her killed, so to speak.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:50:55pm

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are in a frenzy that this is an actual “Bernie Supporter”

Of course they are, precisely because it’s so clearly not one. Complains about Trump being a progressive, not even attempting to be believable. I generally have a jaded opinion of many of Sander’s supporters too, so the only thing keeping me from saying this is one is common sense.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:51:45pm

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts are in a frenzy that this is an actual “Bernie Supporter”

She looks legit. She has been at this for quite a long time. I don’t think she is false flag trolling. I think she is a dangerous fool.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:52:41pm

re: #351 Aunty Entity Dragon

She looks legit. She has been at this for quite a long time. I don’t think she is false flag trolling. I think she is a dangerous fool.

I am not so sure this is a “she”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:53:32pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

I am not so sure this is a “she”

indeed. Just looking at her banner photo…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:55:10pm

re: #351 Aunty Entity Dragon

She looks legit.

Um, no, just no.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:55:11pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:55:45pm

re: #350 goddamnedfrank

Of course they are, precisely because it’s so clearly not one. Complains about Trump being a progressive, not even attempting to be believable. I generally have a jaded opinion of many of Sander’s supporters too, so the only thing keeping me from saying this is one is common sense.

I looked over her posts going some time back and if she is a fake, she is damned tenacious (and loquacious for that matter) and knows enough lefty prog sensibility to do posts for International Women’s Day etc along with a lot of personal stuff.

Right wing fakes are rarely that detailed or informed enough to accurately mimic progressive attitudes.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:56:21pm

Hello.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:56:26pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Trump could get Christie to lift his leg an pee on a tree.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:57:13pm

Keeps the black goo from seeping out.

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TedStriker  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:57:30pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“Chris, how does it feel to be my bitch?”

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:57:41pm

re: #354 goddamnedfrank

Um, no, just no.

[Embedded content]

You have a good catch on that one.

However, this still seems like a bizarre (thousands of tweets) amount of effort to put into a fake.

I would bet on emotionally disturbed.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:57:54pm

re: #359 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Keeps the black goo from seeping out.

He’s an android.
Neat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:58:04pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 4:58:31pm
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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:00:01pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

I am not so sure this is a “she”

Could be. I’m still going with emotionally disturbed, whoever this person is.

Even if it is an elaborate fake, it looks obsessive compulsive.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:00:49pm

re: #281 Dr. Matt

Can we wall off Ohio?

[Embedded content]

There’s good ink. And bad ink. Then there is brain damage.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:00:55pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:01:29pm

re: #356 Aunty Entity Dragon

I looked over her posts going some time back and if she is a fake, she is damned tenacious (and loquacious for that matter) and knows enough lefty prog sensibility to do posts for International Women’s Day etc along with a lot of personal stuff.

Right wing fakes are rarely that detailed or informed enough to accurately mimic progressive attitudes.

The fake claim that Trump and his son raped her kind of gives the game away donchuthink?

Like I said, obvious shitlord. Not even remotely subtle. Recalibrate your sensors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:03:52pm

re: #368 goddamnedfrank

“almost made me pregnant so I had to get an abortion.”

O_o

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:04:01pm

re: #365 Aunty Entity Dragon

Could be. I’m still going with emotionally disturbed, whoever this person is.

Even if it is an elaborate fake, it looks obsessive compulsive.

Shitlords very often are. They’re addicted to provoking a negative reaction and trying to shape public opinion towards their own twisted ends.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:04:18pm

I can’t stop watching that gif of Bernie going OLD MAN ARRRRGH!! on Trump

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:04:49pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

As a Canadian I found this hilarious.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:04:54pm

re: #330 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

So now Trump brings his own punching bag?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:07:21pm

re: #373 nines09

Yup, and Christie skipped a State Trooper’s Funeral to be at Trump’s side today. Very classy.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:07:28pm

re: #359 jaunte

It’s where the dipstick goes into the dipstick.

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Aunty Entity Dragon  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:07:55pm

re: #368 goddamnedfrank

The fake claim that Trump and his son raped her kind of gives the game away donchuthink?

[Embedded content]

Like I said, obvious shitlord. Not even remotely subtle. Recalibrate your sensors.

Over the top bad taste jokes…or meant to be taken seriously? Who can tell. I have been guilty of really poor taste jokes myself.

I still go with disturbed person. Report him/her and get him/her off twitter.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:14:00pm

I see things in Israel are getting even nastier for Arabs.

One of the questions in the survey, based on face-to-face interviews of 5,601 individuals, asked to what degree they agreed with the following statement: “Arabs should be expelled or transferred from Israel.” The result, among the Jewish respondents: Twenty-one percent “strongly agree” and 27 percent “mostly agree.” If those two groups are combined, about half of Israeli Jews questioned - 48 percent - support transfer of Arab citizens. On the other hand, a similar proportion - 46 percent - say they oppose such a move, with 29 percent saying that they “don’t really agree” and 17 percent responding that they “don’t agree at all” to the expulsion of Arabs.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:14:04pm

I had a lovely weekend with the family, wildlife viewing, Celtic music, wine tasting. Then I come home to all Trump, all the time. I think I’ll get in my time machine and go back a couple days.

On the other hand, with all the rain our drought status has been upgraded to “Severe” (from “Extreme” so it’s actually good news. Yay.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:18:47pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:19:35pm

re: #376 Aunty Entity Dragon

Over the top bad taste jokes…or meant to be taken seriously? Who can tell. I have been guilty of really poor taste jokes myself.

I still go with disturbed person. Report him/her and get him/her off twitter.

The thing about Shitlords, 4chan /pol dwellers and 8chan racists is that they are all rather proud of how disturbed they are, how they don’t fit in or function well in society. They turn angst and resentment over their inability to get ahead and prosper into the glue that binds them.

The key difference between them and older generations of conservative racists is that their indoctrination into the conservative lifestyle is much more fractured and schizophrenic. Now that the patina of respectability and tradition of responsibility surrounding conservatism has worn off they don’t really have a cohesive ideology per se. For the most part these younger alt-right brand conservatives just bored, seeking attention and full of a vague sense of resentment against the ethnic and religious minorities who they perceive as having stolen their racial birthright. However because open racism isn’t nearly as tolerated as it was in the past it is also much more difficult for them to organize in the real world without significant repercussions so they mostly focus on making as much disruptive online noise as possible.

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Shimshon  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:21:27pm

Forgive my ignorance, is the picture for this story Ms. Fields? she is beautiful, I don’t get the right wing and their long list of model quality “journalists.”

Is it growing up in a wealthy household and they bought into all the talking points starting when they were young? And more importantly, do I have a chance?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:22:23pm

Wants me to watch a video posted by Jim Hoft.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:22:37pm

In other news…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:24:17pm

You know if this is how they treat people like Michelle Fields who shares a lot of their worldview, it really says a lot about them and their ideology and of course the freakshows that run Breitbart.

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gocart mozart  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:24:51pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:29:13pm

re: #43 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m thinking that the people who want to protest at Trump rallies need a strategy that separates them from the fascists. Stand up, and turn your back on Trump. Stand silently. Don’t shout, because nobody will hear you. Don’t wave your arms, because they’ll interpret it as aggression.

Imagine if 20 or 30 people organized to do that all at once, all throughout the crowd, or maybe all in one section near the front. Stand, turn your back on him, wait silently.

I’m fine with how they’re protesting now. There is no right or wrong way to protest racism in my opinion. How about Trump stop encouraging violence against protesters? Period.

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freetoken  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:29:49pm

re: #377 Ziggy_TARDIS

I was going to write about the Pew poll when it came out last week… but it was just going to be a lot of work.

Needless to say, I find the entire “Israel” issue a bit too intractable to pretend to have any productive suggestion.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:32:51pm

re: #386 Patricia Kayden

I’m fine with how they’re protesting now. There is no right or wrong way to protest racism in my opinion. How about Trump stop encouraging violence against protesters? Period.

I think the perfect protest would be to get enough people in there so that it would be noticeable that a lot of people were just sitting there with blank faces, not agreeing or disagreeing with anything. Or they could laugh at him. Not likely to happen though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:36:32pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:37:43pm

re: #331 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

[Embedded content]

Wait - there are WAY more Trump supporters than protestors at those rallies, but apparently only the protestors have to be unemployed to attend.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:37:49pm

At any Trump appearance, any one at all, I want someone to switch Trump’s walk-on music with Borat’s “Throw The Jew Down The Well”.

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Archangelus  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:40:29pm

re: #377 Ziggy_TARDIS

I see things in Israel are getting even nastier for Arabs.

Was gonna write about that when it was released, but based on what’s been reported extensively about it in Israel, it seems that the results of that poll are inaccurate at best, due to the questions/wording apparently being very problematic..

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EPR-radar  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:40:48pm

re: #388 calochortus

I think the perfect protest would be to get enough people in there so that it would be noticeable that a lot of people were just sitting there with blank faces, not agreeing or disagreeing with anything. Or they could laugh at him. Not likely to happen though.

I think it’s a mistake to think in terms of a “perfect protest”. Within limits, I think “all of the above” is often a good strategy for activism, while insisting on a single approach (or a very narrow range of approaches) can end up being a straightjacket.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:43:30pm

re: #390 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait - there are WAY more Trump supporters than protestors at those rallies, but apparently only the protestors have to be unemployed to attend.

There is a direct link to comment sections at local media. It’s overwhelmingly conservative and recently Trumpish because commenters tend to be old, retired men and women or crank eBay sellers killing time. Don’t ask me how I know this.

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calochortus  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:43:41pm

re: #393 EPR-radar

I don’t want to enforce any single response, but I think either boredom or ridicule would deflate Trump without getting him much publicity.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:43:47pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

I built a pair of mountain bike wheels for a guy with a chair a few years ago. He wanted to go fishing.

What a touching photo. Hope they get to a safe place. My heart goes out to people seeking a better life as an immigrant myself and the child of immigrants.

397
stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:45:25pm

Has anyone heard reports about a Trump supporter getting shot in Chicago by a ‘black thug’? My wingnut sister just put it on facebook and I’m wondering if it has anything to a Trump rally or if it was just some unrelated shooting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:45:34pm

oh……

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:46:40pm

I feel like this photo needs to be seen as a mental health break. (And also why representation is important.)

Instagram

❤️ Layla: Finn where’s Rey?
Finn: I don’t know, I got beat by kylo and I can’t remember anything
Layla: okay I’ll be your Rey today. Okay?
Finn: okay! Lead the way.

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Franklin  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:46:41pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is drunk in that clip. The “Hated to do it, but had to make my point” was like Drunk Uncle Joe at Thanksgiving dinner.

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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:47:21pm

re: #397 stpaulbear

Never mind. Found the snopes report. It’s false.

My sister is reading some really shitty news.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:47:32pm

re: #397 stpaulbear

Has anyone heard reports about a Trump supporter getting shot in Chicago by a ‘black thug’? My wingnut sister just put it on facebook and I’m wondering if it has anything to a Trump rally or if it was just some unrelated shooting.

I have seen it on #tcot but there is no credible source, just the usual wingnut echo chamber.

403
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:48:58pm
404
Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:49:05pm

re: #305 The Ghost of Bork Bork Bork Bork

How do you divvy up the drunk stupid and the vainglorious stupid from the regular stupid?

With a fork

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:49:39pm

re: #401 stpaulbear

Never mind. Found the snopes report. It’s false.

My sister is reading some really shitty news.

I swear so much of what people post is just self-fulfilling bs.

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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:53:23pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

I just sent her the Snopes report as a message instead of posting it to her site. I’ve actually blocked her on FB but I still get notifications when she posts something.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:55:49pm

re: #405 HappyWarrior

I swear so much of what people post is just self-fulfilling bs.

The thing that bothers me isn’t even so much that all the wingnuts just buy into shit they read in emails and blog posts. The thing that bothers me is that someone, somewhere knows the truth and composed something they knew was completely false, just to get wingnuts to buy into it and get riled up.

Jim Hoft, for all that we call him the SMOTI, is one of those people. He posts things he MUST know aren’t true, because he often has to craft them out of things that are true. The people who spread the shit are bad enough, but they probably believe it’s true. The worst are the ones who knowingly create the shit in the first place.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:56:38pm

re: #399 klys (maker of Silmarils)

And the twitter version for those of us not on instagram:

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Shimshon  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:57:20pm

re: #406 stpaulbear

I just sent her the Snopes report as a message instead of posting it to her site. I’ve actually blocked her on FB but I still get notifications when she posts something.

I can predict her response: “Snopes is part of the MSM media, a liberal propaganda outlet, funded by George Sorors!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:57:26pm

re: #406 stpaulbear

I just sent her the Snopes report as a message instead of posting it to her site. I’ve actually blocked her on FB but I still get notifications when she posts something.

Well, you know Snopes is owned by Soros!! and run by a pair of Radical Leftists!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:58:55pm

re: #409 Shimshon

re: #410 Blind Frog Belly White

Great minds, same gutter.

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stpaulbear  Mar 14, 2016 • 5:59:08pm

re: #409 Shimshon

That’s what I’m expecting too. I’ll update if she replies.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 14, 2016 • 6:01:35pm

re: #406 stpaulbear

I just sent her the Snopes report as a message instead of posting it to her site. I’ve actually blocked her on FB but I still get notifications when she posts something.

Ah I see. Some people man just make me shake my head.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2016 • 6:06:21pm

re: #358 Skip Intro

I think Trump could get Christie to lift his leg an pee on a tree.

He makes him do that before he gets on the Trump plane. He is not allowed to use the bathrooms on the plane anymore, he clogs them up.

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Shimshon  Mar 14, 2016 • 6:14:37pm

When Trump did his whole bit being horrified at people using the bathroom he should have been compared to the late North Korean leader who never needed to use the bathroom. Trump thinks he’s a God like Kim Jon Un.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2016 • 6:34:17pm

re: #414 Eventual Carrion

He makes him do that before he gets on the Trump plane. He is not allowed to use the bathrooms on the plane anymore, he clogs them up.

Thinking about Christie’s situation, and why he has to eat the shit that Trump is feeding him.

Christie has burned every bridge at this point. He’s terribly unpopular in his own home state, and any political juice he may have had is pretty much gone. He’s insulted everyone he was running against, and he seems to take things very personally so he probably feels insulted by his opponents, too. And if anything comes of Bridgegate, he’s completely fucked.

The best he can hope for is that Trump wins the nomination and the election, at which point the new president will give him a position of some esteem and runs interference for him with his scandal.

The risk, of course, is that Trump may just decide to cut him loose after the campaign. But as bad as that option may be, it still seems better than what he’s got to look forward to otherwise.

All that said, I don’t feel iota one of sympathy for that bullying prick. He made that bed. Time to lie in it.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2016 • 7:03:07pm

re: #416 makeitstop

Thinking about Christie’s situation, and why he has to eat the shit that Trump is feeding him.

Christie has burned every bridge at this point. He’s terribly unpopular in his own home state, and any political juice he may have had is pretty much gone. He’s insulted everyone he was running against, and he seems to take things very personally so he probably feels insulted by his opponents, too. And if anything comes of Bridgegate, he’s completely fucked.

The best he can hope for is that Trump wins the nomination and the election, at which point the new president will give him a position of some esteem and runs interference for him with his scandal.

The risk, of course, is that Trump may just decide to cut him loose after the campaign. But as bad as that option may be, it still seems better than what he’s got to look forward to otherwise.

All that said, I don’t feel iota one of sympathy for that bullying prick. He made that bed. Time to lie in it.

It’s not only Christie. For the last month or so karma has been reconciling a bunch of ledgers.


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