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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:17:43am

I hope Raul doesn’t make an hour of this….

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:18:12am

(Mitt Romney is outraeg that we don’t have any battleships on which the awesome white right-wing president could have sailed)

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:19:07am
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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:19:51am

re: #1 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

I hope Raul doesn’t make an hour of this….

“Welcome to America, Raul. Please keep your speeches to sound bites.”

Gotta give him the full American experience.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:20:50am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Uh the Democrats do welcome anti-abortion voters. They’re just as a party pro-choice.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:20:56am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

As long as they also became ant-tax liberals, anti-healthcare liberals, anti-welfare liberals, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:22:00am

The Democratic party is much more respectful of anti-abortion beliefs than the GOP is of pro-choice beliefs.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:23:19am

Why is Obama apologizing for America???!?

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:23:43am

This man will be sorely missed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:25:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:26:11am
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b.d.  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:26:45am

So sad that Hugo Chavez isn’t around to see this day.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:26:59am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Personal responsibility in action, again. Blame the media for our front runners supporters being a bunch of violent assholes. That’s the way Reincey!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:27:09am

Why is Obama in Cuba in an election year? Shouldn’t Americans get a voice in this with the next president?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:27:32am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

No true Scotsman….

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:27:56am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

They may not believe in violence, but they do accept it.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:28:03am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I really, really thought we were over this “the best way to be a Democrat is to be a Republican Lite” thing.

I mean, I’m in no position to kick anybody out of the party. If a pro-life voter wants to identify as a Democrat, that’s their right. But fuck the noise of the party acceding one iota to that belief.

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b.d.  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:28:09am

I think I just saw Obama bow!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:28:36am

re: #10 The Vicious Babushka

RWNJ think allowing more free speech in Cuba would be wonderful, until regular Cubans start demanding that the US shutdown Gitmo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:28:58am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:29:31am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

CNN showing Obama speaking now.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:29:57am

re: #17 Testy Toad T

I really, really thought we were over this “the best way to be a Democrat is to be a Republican Lite” thing.

I mean, I’m in no position to kick anybody out of the party. If a pro-life voter wants to identify as a Democrat, that’s their right. But fuck the noise of the party acceding one iota to that belief.

Right. Why should the Democrats compromise on this issue? I mean you’ve got Republicans that find fault with Griswold and Eisenstadt let alone Roe v Wade. I have no problem with pro-life individuals deciding they’re Democrats if they want to be but I do have a problem with the Democrats compromising their principles to appease a belief that is a minority within their party.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:30:11am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The media sucks.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:30:27am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Ok, I just scanned the post. We already have antiabortion Democrats. Harry Reid for instance.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:30:27am

Trump: The US is disintegrating.

This is what passes as a Trump state of the Union observation. Never mind that it’s completely wrong, and the product of a fever nightmare concocted by the parasitic thing attached to his scalp.

Minorities having the same rights as everyone else now counts as disintegrating the nation.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:31:05am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:31:42am

re: #25 lawhawk

Trump: The US is disintegrating.

This is what passes as a Trump state of the Union observation. Never mind that it’s completely wrong, and the product of a fever nightmare concocted by the parasitic thing attached to his scalp.

Minorities having the same rights as everyone else now counts as disintegrating the nation.

LOOK AT ALL THE VIOLENCE!! LIKE AT MY RALLIES!!!!!1

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:31:44am

re: #24 Belafon

Ok, I just scanned the post. We already have antiabortion Democrats. Harry Reid for instance.

When’s the last time a pro-choice Republican had anywhere near the power or influence htat Reid has?

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No Depression  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:31:58am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“We’re not a party that believes in violence [unless the victims are brown].”

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:32:08am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:38:14am

What a great fig leaf that would be for our most reliably-at-the-polls constituency.

“We saw a chance to pick up some religious working-class white men, so we sold your human rights down the river. Shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen.”

Thank goodness even DWS is not that stupid.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:40:22am

I’m beginning to be much nastier towards Bernie Supporters.

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withak  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:41:53am

re: #32 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m beginning to be much nastier towards Bernie Supporters.

Why be nasty at all, unless they are the Bernie-or-bust types?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:42:45am

re: #33 withak

Why be nasty at all, unless they are the Bernie-or-bust types?

Agreed.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:42:57am

re: #33 withak

Why be nasty at all, unless they are the Bernie-or-bust types?

Consider of whom you are asking this question.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:43:09am

re: #25 lawhawk

Trump: The US is disintegrating.

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This is what passes as a Trump state of the Union observation. Never mind that it’s completely wrong, and the product of a fever nightmare concocted by the parasitic thing attached to his scalp.

Minorities having the same rights as everyone else now counts as disintegrating the nation.

trump state of the union addresses would start out ‘hey, waddaya want outta my life’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:43:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:43:38am

re: #33 withak

Why be nasty at all, unless they are the Bernie-or-bust types?

It’s a waste of energy either way.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:44:09am

CASTRO: Barack, your pitching stance sucks.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:44:17am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah there’s going to be freaking out over that one.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:44:20am

re: #32 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m beginning to be much nastier towards Bernie Supporters.

You and your anger management issues. Sanders supporters are not worth it right now. Ignore them unless you are having real policy discussions. They will only be an issue come September/October.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:44:27am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

No Apologies!!!1 America right or wrong@!!!1 America Exceptionalism!!!!

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:44:59am

re: #32 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’m beginning to be much nastier towards Bernie Supporters.

They’ve got to get through the five stages of grief that their candidate has had no chance of success at getting the nomination since Super Tuesday (he keeps losing ground to Hillary with every metric - by states won, by popular vote, by delegates, and by superdelegates).

The remaining states don’t favor him either (despite the wishful thinking of his supporters - if he couldn’t win Ohio, there’s no reason to think he’d do better in CA, NY, NJ, PA, or anywhere else for that matter. MI was the outlier, not a harbinger of doom for Hillary.

They’ll get to acceptance soon enough.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:45:19am

Did we give the Internet away already to Cuba, the Soviet Union, China?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:45:33am

re: #33 withak

Because they are hurting Clinton for the general, and don’t seem to understand that under Trump Administration, many minorities will suffer. I don’t like the self-centered selfishness.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:46:27am

re: #44 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Did we give the Internet away already to Cuba, the Soviet Union, China?

/

I think we got a player to be named later since we’re talking baseball. And I have to say, Obama’s pitching motion did stink but unlike wingnuts I don’t hold that against him. He just won’t be the pitcher on my presidents baseball team.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:46:31am
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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:46:37am

re: #43 lawhawk

The remaining states don’t favor him either (despite the wishful thinking of his supporters - if he couldn’t win Ohio, there’s no reason to think he’d do better in CA, NY, NJ, PA, or anywhere else for that matter. MI was the outlier, not a harbinger of doom for Hillary.

Not quite true — the next half-dozen or so look very favorable to them, although they’re not big enough to actually swing the math in a meaningful way. Nature is cruel. They’re going to get a favorable signal that will make the final realization all the more painful.

(Meanwhile, I am thinking about not visiting Facebook for about three weeks)

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:46:40am

re: #25 lawhawk

Once again, how is Trump doing anything but elaborating on an existing right-wing meme?

How long have we been hearing that this country is falling apart? No seriously, somebody do a count.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:46:47am

Why does Obama say something is wrong with America? There’s nothing wrong with America!!!

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!!!!!

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:46:53am

re: #45 Ziggy_TARDIS

Because they are hurting Clinton for the general, and don’t seem to understand that under Trump Administration, many minorities will suffer. I don’t like the self-centered selfishness.

Personally, I don’t think they are. We heard this stuff in 2008. Most people aren’t paying attention and won’t hear this stuff anyway.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:46:55am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

The GOP: Not a party of violent people, just #1 with violent people.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:47:04am

re: #45 Ziggy_TARDIS

Because they are hurting Clinton for the general, and don’t seem to understand that under Trump Administration, many minorities will suffer. I don’t like the self-centered selfishness.

As long as Bernie stays in the race, they’re entitled to vote how they like. Convince them they’re wrong rather than getting nasty.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:47:05am

re: #43 lawhawk

They’ve got to get through the five stages of grief that their candidate has had no chance of success at getting the nomination since Super Tuesday (he keeps losing ground to Hillary with every metric - by states won, by popular vote, by delegates, and by superdelegates).

The remaining states don’t favor him either (despite the wishful thinking of his supporters - if he couldn’t win Ohio, there’s no reason to think he’d do better in CA, NY, NJ, PA, or anywhere else for that matter. MI was the outlier, not a harbinger of doom for Hillary.

They’ll get to acceptance soon enough.

Add to that a new poll shows Hillary easily beating Trump among Millenials (although Bernie fairs better).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:47:18am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Was she wearing a bullet necklace by any chance?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:47:45am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a waste of energy either way.

I disagree with that. He’s gotta learn that there are constructive ways to approach those you disagree with.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:47:48am

re: #45 Ziggy_TARDIS

Because they are hurting Clinton for the general, and don’t seem to understand that under Trump Administration, many minorities will suffer. I don’t like the self-centered selfishness.

And your getting nasty with them changes that how?

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A Mom Anon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:48:30am

re: #32 Ziggy_TARDIS

That right there is going to get you hurt at some point.

I know you are on the autism spectrum. I have a son a couple years younger than you who is too. What you are doing is playing into every stereotype about people with autism. They lack empathy, they’re hostile to other people who don’t agree with them, they have outbursts and lack self control. It is tough enough out there for people with Asperger Syndrome, you are getting in your own way. Instead of being nasty to Bernie supporters, ignore the shit out of them and use that energy to support your candidate. Stuff envelopes, hand out bumperstickers, help people sign up to vote or get to the polls.

I would really hate to find out one day that you ended up hurt or worse because of your inability to chill the hell out about this stuff. Not everything is personal or about you. Bernie’s supporters are just as entitled to their opinions as you are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:48:52am

re: #56 HappyWarrior

I disagree with that. He’s gotta learn that there are constructive ways to approach those you disagree with.

What I said was being nasty is a waste of energy.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:48:52am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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somebody please tell me that donald trump has never had an embarrassing extramarital excursion

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:48:58am

re: #51 Belafon

Also, because they are not doing evidence-based politics, but instead doing fluff-based horseshit.

re: #53 HappyWarrior

I prefer silencing them.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:48:59am

re: #50 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why does Obama say something is wrong with America? There’s nothing wrong with America!!!

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!!!!!

I believe that making America Grate is actually one of their goals. If we’re not getting on other people’s nerves, we’re not doing it right.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:49:25am

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I said was being nasty is a waste of energy.

Oh, sorry about that. I agree then. My mistake.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:49:25am

Riddle me this: Why is it okay for Americans to criticize (in some cases harshly) other nations and leaders but then turn around and scream bloody murder if said other nations and leaders harshly criticize America.

The United States does NOT rule the world morons!

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TedStriker  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:49:45am

re: #26 Kragar

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Upding for the Last Starfighter GIF in that tweet.

Trivia: Dan O’Herlihy, who played Grig (Alex Rogan’s lizardoid navigator/engineer/pilot in The Last Starfighter), later played the Old Man (chairman of the board of OCP) in the original RoboCop and RoboCop 2.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:49:52am

re: #61 Ziggy_TARDIS

I prefer silencing them.

Being nasty to them will not accomplish that.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:49:58am

re: #49 The Ghost of a Cunning Plan

Once again, how is Trump doing anything but elaborating on an existing right-wing meme?

How long have we been hearing that this country is falling apart? No seriously, somebody do a count.

That is deeply ironic, since whatever disintegration we really have in the US is the GOP’s fault.

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:50:11am

re: #60 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

somebody please tell me that donald trump has never had an embarrassing extramarital excursion

AFAIK just embarrassing intra-marital excursions. But those excursions are are contractually locked away.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:50:18am

re: #61 Ziggy_TARDIS

Also, because they are not doing evidence-based politics, but instead doing fluff-based horseshit.

I prefer silencing them.

You really have to stop treating people who disagree with you as your enemy. No one’s going to 100% agree on everything. You feel they’re wrong. Convince them they’re wrong if it bothers you that much or live and let be. There’s no good reason to get nasty with people.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:50:30am

re: #61 Ziggy_TARDIS

Also, because they are not doing evidence-based politics, but instead doing fluff-based horseshit.

I prefer silencing them.

You can’t shut them up, you can only ignore them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:50:46am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Right. Why should the Democrats compromise on this issue? I mean you’ve got Republicans that find fault with Griswold and Eisenstadt let alone Roe v Wade. I have no problem with pro-life individuals deciding they’re Democrats if they want to be but I do have a problem with the Democrats compromising their principles to appease a belief that is a minority within their party.

I have a problem with saying Democrats would totally dominate by sacrificing the constitutional rights of women. Its like saying the Democrats would totally dominate if they’d just accept pro-segregation liberals. And they did, but it was the wrong thing to do to African-Americans.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:50:56am

My thoughts about this are too complicated for a comment, suffice it to say I am cautiously optimistic that this will lead to a better future for Cuba. More thoughts here.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:51:15am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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I’d like to hear that story.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:51:26am

re: #58 A Mom Anon

That right there is going to get you hurt at some point.

I know you are on the autism spectrum. I have a son a couple years younger than you who is too. What you are doing is playing into every stereotype about people with autism. They lack empathy, they’re hostile to other people who don’t agree with them, they have outbursts and lack self control. It is tough enough out there for people with Asperger Syndrome, you are getting in your own way. Instead of being nasty to Bernie supporters, ignore the shit out of them and use that energy to support your candidate. Stuff envelopes, hand out bumperstickers, help people sign up to vote or get to the polls.

I would really hate to find out one day that you ended up hurt or worse because of your inability to chill the hell out about this stuff. Not everything is personal or about you. Bernie’s supporters are just as entitled to their opinions as you are.

That’s why I try to help him since like him and your son, I too am on the spectrum and I know I struggle with a lot of this. It’s tough as is being on the spectrum in a world that is tough for us. We don’t need to make it difficult by re-enforcing the worst stereotypes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:51:48am

re: #71 Big Beautiful Door

I have a problem with saying Democrats would totally dominate by sacrificing the constitutional rights of women. Its like saying the Democrats would totally dominate if they’d just accept pro-segregation liberals. And they did, but it was the wrong thing to do to African-Americans.

I agree 100%.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:51:48am

re: #68 Franklin

AFAIK just embarrassing intra-marital excursions. But those excursions are are contractually locked away.

Pretty much this. Trump has the finances and legal clout to shut people up so whatever dirt may be out there is inaccessible.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:52:16am

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

The United States does NOT rule the world morons!

HERETIC BURN HIM!!!1!

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withak  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:52:20am

re: #61 Ziggy_TARDIS

Also, because they are not doing evidence-based politics, but instead doing fluff-based horseshit.

I prefer silencing them.

Just because you think someone’s wrong, doesn’t mean you have to argue with them.

xkcd.com

This lesson applies to real life, as well.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:52:30am

re: #70 Belafon

I’ve found you can, if you hit them hard enough.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:52:40am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

As long as Bernie stays in the race, they’re entitled to vote how they like. Convince them they’re wrong rather than getting nasty.

Because it you get nasty, you’ll convince them they’re right.

The better tack might be to point out that Hillary has a long record of support for progressive causes, too, despite what they may hear about her being a corporate sellout. My approach, when faced with Sanders supporters who object to hearing he should drop out now is to say that he should stay in as long as it’s possible for him to win, but that his supporters must guard against becoming bitter if he doesn’t, because in the Fall we’ll be up against Trump or Cruz, and they absolutely cannot be allowed to win.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:52:44am

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

Riddle me this: Why is it okay for Americans to criticize (in some cases harshly) other nations and leaders but then turn around and scream bloody murder if said other nations and leaders harshly criticize America.

The United States does NOT rule the world morons!

TEH AMERICA SHOULD RULE ALL TEH WORLD, & DONALD TRUMP MUST BE TEH LEADER OF THEM ALL!!!1!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:52:47am

re: #72 KGxvi

My thoughts about this are too complicated for a comment, suffice it to say I am cautiously optimistic that this will lead to a better future for Cuba. More thoughts here.

The other point is that we have not “given” anything to Cuba beyond reopening our embassy there. To hear people complain on the Net it is like we just lifted the embargo and instituted foreign aid payments…

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:52:59am

re: #61 Ziggy_TARDIS

Also, because they are not doing evidence-based politics, but instead doing fluff-based horseshit.

I prefer silencing them.

My advice is to get blunt about things only if these Bernie supporters are making noises about staying home in November.

Other than that, Bernie’s campaign is harmless, and definitely doesn’t need to be silenced.

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withak  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:53:03am

re: #79 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve found you can, if you hit them hard enough.

You’re beginning to sound like a Trump supporter.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:53:18am

re: #32 Ziggy_TARDIS

re: #43 lawhawk

I posted this over the weekend, but it’s worth a repeat. This graphic was posted by the biggest Berniac of all my Facebook friends. I was really glad to see that he gets it.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:53:37am

re: #61 Ziggy_TARDIS

I prefer silencing them.

How very democratic of you.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:53:45am

re: #72 KGxvi

My thoughts about this are too complicated for a comment, suffice it to say I am cautiously optimistic that this will lead to a better future for Cuba. More thoughts here.

I’ll have to read your post later, so you may have said this, but, at a minimum, the US should no longer be a negative factor in the quality of life of Cuban citizens.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:53:49am

I guess you know, not actually being an American has a lot to do with it, but I really can’t stand the hardcore American Exceptionalism types.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:53:57am

re: #79 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve found you can, if you hit them hard enough.

Do not stoop. Rise above.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:54:24am

re: #85 stpaulbear

I posted this over the weekend, but it’s worth a repeat. This graphic was posted by the biggest Berniac of all my Facebook friends. I was really glad to see that he gets it.

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I had a talk with my brother who supports Bernie. I think he still doesn’t like Clinton much but he understands that this election is so much more than one man or woman that is to say Bernie and Hillary.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:54:39am

re: #79 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve found you can, if you hit them hard enough.

We have not-so-nice places for people who think that way.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:55:31am

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

I guess you know, not actually being an American has a lot to do with it, but I really can’t stand the hardcore American Exceptionalism types.

I totally get that. I find it very arrogant. I don’t know how other countries view themeslves but I’ve always been wary of the perception that America is divinely special. I’m proud of my nation and love it but I see her flaws as well as her strengths.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:56:04am

Warren got sufficiently under Trump’s skin that Trump called her “Indian”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:56:40am

re: #79 Ziggy_TARDIS

I’ve found you can, if you hit them hard enough.

Do you really want to be that guy though? Do you really want to be that guy who pisses off people because he can’t handle people who see things different than he does.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:56:48am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The other point is that we have not “given” anything to Cuba beyond reopening our embassy there. To hear people complain on the Net it is like we just lifted the embargo and instituted foreign aid payments…

That was something I talked to my mom about yesterday… She brought up the idea of reparations yesterday. I told her it wasn’t going to happen, we wouldn’t even pay reparations to our own citizens that we put in internment camps during WW2, we’re not going to pay them to Cuba. But she is reflexively anti-Obama in a way that I cannot understand or explain.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:56:50am

re: #93 lawhawk

Warren got sufficiently under Trump’s skin that Trump called her “Indian”.

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How Presidential. Very leadership.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:57:11am

re: #92 HappyWarrior

I totally get that. I find it very arrogant. I don’t know how other countries view themeslves but I’ve always been wary of the perception that America is divinely special. I’m proud of my nation and love it but I see her flaws as well as her strengths.

America is special because a lot of people have worked very, very hard to make it that way.

Those who think we’re divinely special, and there are a lot of ‘em, are the same ones that think government (which is a manifestation of the will of the people) cannot work to make it better.

Funny, that.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:57:19am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

I know, I have similar issues with my son. Only his thing is hardcore metal music and by god if you don’t like that then, well, he just can’t relate to you or your choices are dumb or wrong or, GAH! And then he wonders why he can’t find a girlfriend or make lasting friendships. I mean, he’s doing better socially, but the only common ground he has with people is music. He literally knows nothing at all about the people he hangs out with except their music preferences. Do they go to school? Have siblings? Where do they work? Middle name? Favorite food or color? Stuff you should have a clue about, but he doesn’t and won’t find out. It’s stubbornness, but it’s also the ASD taking over. It’s frustrating to watch when you know it’s possible for them to work on it. I worry all the time about him getting hurt physically or being alone forever with no one who has his back once I’m gone. I’d like to do something else sometime. grrrr.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:58:05am

re: #97 Testy Toad T

America is special because a lot of people have worked very, very hard to make it that way.

Those who think we’re divinely special, and there are a lot of ‘em, are the same ones that think government (which is a manifestation of the will of the people) cannot work to make it better.

Funny, that.

Precisely. Nailed it.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:58:06am

re: #92 HappyWarrior

I totally get that. I find it very arrogant. I don’t know how other countries view themeslves but I’ve always been wary of the perception that America is divinely special. I’m proud of my nation and love it but I see her flaws as well as her strengths.

Ever since I saw American Exceptionalism used to support the “it isn’t torture when we do it” drivel, I’ve made a conscious effort to avoid that kind of thinking.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:58:14am

re: #93 lawhawk

Warren got sufficiently under Trump’s skin that Trump called her “Indian”.

That was very cruel of CNN.

///

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:58:41am

RWNJ are pissed Obama had his picture taken with Che in the background

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:58:42am

re: #61 Ziggy_TARDIS

Also, because they are not doing evidence-based politics, but instead doing fluff-based horseshit.

Do not assume yours is the only possible correct interpretation. There are significant differences between Clinton and Sanders, and one person’s priorities are not another’s. If you cannot convince them you are right, you need to find common ground to convince them you aren’t wrong. They may prefer Sanders’ positions over Clinton’s, and you might not be able to move that. But you might make them more comfortable voting for her in the General.

I prefer silencing them.

Then politics is something you should avoid. Clearly you don’t have the temperament. It’s still fucking MARCH. Lighten up, Francis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:59:08am

re: #98 A Mom Anon

It took me until my mid-20’s to begin to hit my stride socially and begin making friends. Heck, I did not even have a girlfriend until I was 19.

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Lidane  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:59:19am

If you speak Spanish, the Univision feed is here.

I’m listening to it now. It’s much less obnoxious for me than the English feed.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:59:59am

re: #98 A Mom Anon

I know, I have similar issues with my son. Only his thing is hardcore metal music and by god if you don’t like that then, well, he just can’t relate to you or your choices are dumb or wrong or, GAH! And then he wonders why he can’t find a girlfriend or make lasting friendships. I mean, he’s doing better socially, but the only common ground he has with people is music. He literally knows nothing at all about the people he hangs out with except their music preferences. Do they go to school? Have siblings? Where do they work? Middle name? Favorite food or color? Stuff you should have a clue about, but he doesn’t and won’t find out. It’s stubbornness, but it’s also the ASD taking over. It’s frustrating to watch when you know it’s possible for them to work on it. I worry all the time about him getting hurt physically or being alone forever with no one who has his back once I’m gone. I’d like to do something else sometime. grrrr.

I can relate to that 100%. It’s tough and man I see a lot of myself in Tardis and your son because I too can be very one track mind. I have my set ways of doing something and I can be very stubborn about deviating from that and get upset when called out on it. i’ve gotten better at relating to other people but I’d be lying if I said it’s easy for me. I just have to adapt to people and situations.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:00:10pm

re: #91 Belafon

Point. They really do make me angry, and I need to vent.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:00:11pm

re: #100 EPR-radar

Ever since I saw American Exceptionalism used to support the “it isn’t torture when we do it” drivel, I’ve made a conscious effort to avoid that kind of thinking.

Agreed.

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Jenner7  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:01:50pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:01:52pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

It’s made worse in my case because my faith and my politics end up intertwined.

So, I tend to come at things politically with a lot more energy, and a lot less flexibility.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:01:59pm

re: #93 lawhawk

Warren got sufficiently under Trump’s skin that Trump called her “Indian”.

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Warren should come back with a tweet about deporting all non-natives.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:02:04pm

One of the common criticisms people have of me is I can’t take constructive criticism. I always have an excuse ready for that.

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Jenner7  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:04:16pm

Yes. Good.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:04:59pm

Heritage is going to produce a list of Supreme Court nominees for Trump? Oh, I’m sure that’ll work out just famously.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:05:02pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

I guess you know, not actually being an American has a lot to do with it, but I really can’t stand the hardcore American Exceptionalism types.

That is only because you come from an unexceptional country and you don’t appreciate what America does to protect your freedom.///

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:05:12pm

re: #113 Jenner7

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Yes. Good.

This is much more effective than keeping the old policy and talking from afar about it. Call this Obama’s Kennedy in Berlin moment.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:05:50pm

re: #113 Jenner7

Yes. Good.

Raul’s probably less gross than the heads of state of a dozen of our sworn allies. He’s gross, but I have never understood this country’s bizarre fixation on the misdeeds and abuses of the Castros. Maybe you need to be old enough to remember the missile crisis.

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Lidane  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:06:12pm

re: #93 lawhawk

Warren got sufficiently under Trump’s skin that Trump called her “Indian”.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:06:16pm

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

He’s been going out with other guys his age to shows around Atlanta. Some of them are musicians, some just fans like he is. And it makes me happy to see this. He even approaches the band members and gets photos and autographs, on his own, which is AWESOME. His Facebook page is full of photos of him with all kinds of metal musicians. It’s truly been a place where he feels comfortable and I am really happy about that. BUT, outside of that he seems to still be struggling. He’s working now, and seems to be well liked among his co-workers and managers, but he still really cannot sort his way through all this without help. Which at age 22, he doesn’t want. I seem to be the only person willing to mentor and help him, which of course is the last thing a 22 year old dude wants, is Mommy hanging around or asking questions.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:06:28pm

re: #113 Jenner7

Anyone have a transcript? I missed it live.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:06:41pm

re: #115 Big Beautiful Door

That is only because you come from an unexceptional country and you don’t appreciate what America does to protect your freedom.///

Needz moar sarc tags. ;)

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Ian G.  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:07:52pm

I occasionally daydream about excursions to places that current political realities make difficult if not impossible. Among these are having a rum cocktail while listening to live music in Havana, hiking the Alborz Mountains in Iran, or seeing Angel Falls in Venezuela.

Good to see Obama is making process towards making two of these less unlikely (I still fear Venezuela is going to get worse before it gets better).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:08:37pm

re: #107 Ziggy_TARDIS

Point. They really do make me angry, and I need to vent.

What you are doing here is not “venting”.

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Lidane  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:09:11pm

re: #114 lawhawk

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Heritage is going to produce a list of Supreme Court nominees for Trump? Oh, I’m sure that’ll work out just famously.

At the top of the list: Roy Moore. *gag*

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:09:24pm

So, while the right wingers are going batcrap nuts over Obama in Cuba (I know, it’s a day ending in Y), Trump is attempting to make the case that NATO is no longer necessary:

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Lidane  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:10:25pm

re: #125 lawhawk

So, while the right wingers are going batcrap nuts over Obama in Cuba (I know, it’s a day ending in Y), Trump is attempting to make the case that NATO is no longer necessary

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:10:40pm

The last campaign that tried to use my Senior Senator’s heritage against her packed up his pickup truck and moved to NH.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:11:04pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

What you are doing here is not “venting”.

Internet “venting” is nothing more or less than the normalization of feelings and impulses that one understands to be socially unacceptable.

Again with the sounds-like-Trump-supporter thing.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:11:04pm

re: #107 Ziggy_TARDIS

Point. They really do make me angry, and I need to vent.

Do as A Mom Anon suggested—if you have that much pent up energy and feel strongly about your candidate, phone bank, or canvass, or work in the office as a volunteer. Or go help at a soup kitchen, or a food bank.

You’re not going to change anyone’s mind by being angry and argumentative. Actually, you’re probably making them dig in deeper and hurting your/our cause even more.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:11:08pm

re: #93 lawhawk

Warren got sufficiently under Trump’s skin that Trump called her “Indian”.

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at a certain point trump will have to spend his entire campaign speech angrily respondingly to all of the people who have said less than kind things about him

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:11:12pm

re: #127 Franklin

The last campaign that tried to use my Senior Senator’s heritage against her packed up his pickup truck and moved to NH.

And he now supports Trump.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:11:47pm

re: #125 lawhawk

Of course, because Trump loves Russia and Putin.

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is how I vent. Should I do so differently?

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:11:54pm

re: #117 Testy Toad T

Raul’s probably less gross than the heads of state of a dozen of our sworn allies. He’s gross, but I have never understood this country’s bizarre fixation on the misdeeds and abuses of the Castros. Maybe you need to be old enough to remember the missile crisis.

A lot of people lost everything. I mentioned in my post, when my grandparents came they had a single suitcase for four people, my grandmother was not even allowed to keep her wedding ring. The anger at having lives and futures stolen is real.

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:12:23pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

And he now supports Trump.

Fitting.

And he got his ass handed to him by another woman in NH.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:13:14pm

re: #134 Franklin

Fitting.

And he got his ass handed to him by another woman in NH.

I saw that. Brilliant. I remember when Brown was touted as a “reasonable moderate.” Oh those were day the days when I was just a boy of 23 haha.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:13:27pm

re: #60 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

somebody please tell me that donald trump has never had an embarrassing extramarital excursion

Keeping in mind he is incapable of embarrassment?

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:13:43pm

re: #125 lawhawk

Trump said U.S. should rethink its participation in NATO, believes it wastes resources

trump doesnt have policy positions - he has crowd pleasers

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:14:23pm

re: #124 Lidane

At the top of the list: Roy Moore. *gag*

Worse, it’s probably Jim DeMint.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:14:56pm

Heh:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:15:23pm

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It took me until my mid-20’s to begin to hit my stride socially and begin making friends. Heck, I did not even have a girlfriend until I was 19.

Me too. Even longer than that, in fact. I think that’s why I have really been enjoying my 30s. I am finally, a mature, confident, fully functioning adult with a little experience to guide me.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:15:24pm

re: #127 Franklin

The last campaign that tried to use my Senior Senator’s heritage against her packed up his pickup truck and moved to NH.

Where he then lost against another “girl.”

Heh.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:16:32pm

re: #133 KGxvi

A lot of people lost everything. I mentioned in my post, when my grandparents came they had a single suitcase for four people, my grandmother was not even allowed to keep her wedding ring. The anger at having lives and futures stolen is real.

That’s something I understand completely and I hope I don’t mean disrespect but they’re not the only ones. Plenty of Chinese-Americans, Vietnamese-Americans, etc lost a lot when communist regimes took over there and took a lot of wealthy and property. I understand the emotions. i also have long resented the exile community creating a narrative that only they suffered. A friend of my cousin is Romanian and his family lost a lot of their property during that era too and yet we still did business with the Romanians even during the Cold War since Nicolae Ceaușescu was Anti-Soviet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:17:41pm

Go home Peggy, you’re drunk

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:17:49pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

I should also point out that, while I am not on the spectrum, I do have ADD. One of the signs of ADD is an inability for a person to handle social situations well. It’s an ongoing battle for me but I’m happy to say I have been winning. :D

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:18:21pm

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

Go home Peggy, you’re drunk

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Peggy, how about we talk about the various right wing dictatorships that Reagan loved simply because they were anti-Communist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:18:49pm

Did I ever mention how much I hate the “Batman Slaps Robin” meme

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:19:08pm

re: #110 Ziggy_TARDIS

It’s made worse in my case because my faith and my politics end up intertwined.

So, I tend to come at things politically with a lot more energy, and a lot less flexibility.

Making politics into a religion is one of the central flaws of US RWNJs. Don’t imitate them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:19:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:20:58pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good move.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:21:23pm

re: #114 lawhawk

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Heritage is going to produce a list of Supreme Court nominees for Trump? Oh, I’m sure that’ll work out just famously.

That’s why they have Liberty U law school. They grow RWNJ talking point dispensers in vats there, and the most recently decanted one is always ready for a SCOTUS nomination by a GOP president.

The ideal RWNJ jurist would be several parsecs to the right of Scalia on all issues.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:21:50pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

That’s something I understand completely and I hope I don’t mean disrespect but they’re not the only ones. Plenty of Chinese-Americans, Vietnamese-Americans, etc lost a lot when communist regimes took over there and took a lot of wealthy and property. I understand the emotions. i also have long resented the exile community creating a narrative that only they suffered. A friend of my cousin is Romanian and his family lost a lot of their property during that era too and yet we still did business with the Romanians even during the Cold War since Nicolae Ceaușescu was Anti-Soviet.

I don’t take it as disrespect. Cuban-Americans have been much more politically active, so their voices are the ones that get heard the most. I think part of it is because of Cuba’s proximity. There was, for decades, the hope that Castro would fail and that they’d be able to return home. Most who would consider Cuba home have died or are close to death. The emotion was passed on to their children. But their grandchildren are less passionate, or at least see a different way because that fight is not our fight.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:22:08pm

re: #150 EPR-radar

That’s why they have Liberty U law school. They grow RWNJ talking point dispensers in vats there, and the most recently decanted one is always ready for a SCOTUS nomination by a GOP president.

The ideal RWNJ jurist would be several parsecs to the right of Scalia on all issues.

That’s scary to think there is someone out there to the right of Scalia but then I remember that Scalia did have his stopped clock moments. The next one likely won’t.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:22:46pm

re: #118 Lidane

… considerately places a magnifying glass nearby to enable visitors to more easily see the trophy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:22:52pm
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A Mom Anon  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:23:56pm

re: #132 Ziggy_TARDIS

Could you at least consider the idea of changing one pattern you’re immersed in? Just one small change to start. I know it sounds trite, but it works. IF you allow it to.

You are allowed to be angry, it’s not healthy to hold it in. BUT! You have to learn when to step off and go into the opposite direction. A couple of things to try, that probably sound silly to you, but really do work if you give them a chance are:

1) Keep a journal for ONLY positive thoughts and events. What are you grateful for? If you are fed, clothed and have some creature comforts, you are ahead of a lot of people. Did the waitress at the place you had lunch or dinner smile and give you great service? Was it an especially beautiful day today? Did you see a cute puppy out for a walk? No matter how small it is, write it down. Gratitude is really important, especially in a world where there are so many rough edges to navigate. Look for stuff to be grateful about. I challenge you. You won’t regret it.

2) Get outside. Go hiking, walking, running, fishing, swimming, sit on a rock and soak up the sun, SOMETHING. There’s real science to back up a connection to nature nurturing better health, physical and emotional. So does having a pet, like a dog, who needs to get out and be walked. Borrow a friend’s dog if you can’t have one. Go to a shelter and volunteer to help, they always need it.

Being angry about anything spills over into the rest of your life, even if you don’t see it, others can. Punishing a perceived enemy does nothing to make your life better, EVER. Even if they really are an enemy, that anger rarely works in your favor.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:24:50pm

re: #151 KGxvi

I don’t take it as disrespect. Cuban-Americans have been much more politically active, so their voices are the ones that get heard the most. I think part of it is because of Cuba’s proximity. There was, for decades, the hope that Castro would fail and that they’d be able to return home. Most who would consider Cuba home have died or are close to death. The emotion was passed on to their children. But their grandchildren are less passionate, or at least see a different way because that fight is not our fight.

Okay, I’m glad that I did not come off disrespectful or uncaring. I understand why it’s emotional for older people like your grandmother. I do agree that part of it has to do with how organized the Cuban-American community is and it’s a true point about the proximity. I read a nice story the other day and this is why I am glad the deal happened. Jose Abreu of the White Sox was able to see his son for the first time in a few years. I see the normalizing of relations as being good for families that have not seen each other in a long time. I’m hopeful that we’ll look back on this as the start of better days for the Cuban people.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:25:04pm

Just reading up on Trump’s and Cruz’s foreign policy teams, and whoa Nellie. Trump’s advisers are bad enough, energy industry shills, Blackwater execs, and Islamophobes, but Ted Cruz’s team is just unreal. Frank Gaffney, Michael Ledeen, Andrew McCarthy and Elliott Abrams.

Frank Gaffney. A birther who thinks Obama might be secret Muslim, now advising one of the leading GOP candidates. This race has been scary for a while now, but this group of lunatics can’t be allowed anywhere near the White House. This election is going to be one of the most important in US history — a chance to definitively reject the far right. If Trump or Cruz wins the presidency, this nation is going to be in big, big trouble.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:25:50pm

re: #125 lawhawk

So, while the right wingers are going batcrap nuts over Obama in Cuba (I know, it’s a day ending in Y), Trump is attempting to make the case that NATO is no longer necessary:

The ant-NATO position will now be obligatory for all true Patriot American conservatives.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:26:36pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

Just reading up on Trump’s and Cruz’s foreign policy teams, and whoa Nellie. Trump’s advisers are bad enough, energy industry shills, Blackwater execs, and Islamophobes, but Ted Cruz’s team is just unreal. Frank Gaffney, Michael Ledeen, Andrew McCarthy and Elliott Abrams.

Frank Gaffney. A birther who thinks Obama might be secret Muslim, now advising one of the leading GOP candidates. This race has been scary for a while now, but this group of lunatics can’t be allowed anywhere near the White House. This election is going to be one of the most important in US history — a chance to definitively reject the far right. If Trump or Cruz wins the presidency, this nation is going to be in big, big trouble.

I read about that too Charles. Gaffney joining the Cruz team is why I laugh when the GOP tries to act like it’s opposed to Trump’s bigotry. IF anything, their problem is more with Trump being not electable and that he has some somewhat sane ideas that go against right wing dogma. We need a landslide to show these assholes that we the American people reject their worldview of narrow midnedness and bigotry.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:26:46pm

re: #158 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The ant-NATO position will now be obligatory for all true Patriot American conservatives.

Ban NATO! But Obama is weak on defense!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:26:47pm

The terrorists will fly in from CUBA!!

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:27:33pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

If anything, their problem is more with Trump being not electable

Nah. It’s that he operates outside of their control.

For instance, I think Trump is probably more electable than Cruz.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:27:45pm
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A Mom Anon  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:27:48pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

God, just reading some of those names sends shivers down my spine. These are seriously deranged people with no business near power ever again.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:27:48pm

re: #93 lawhawk

Warren got sufficiently under Trump’s skin that Trump called her “Indian”.

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She should have called him “immigrant” then.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:28:06pm

re: #162 Testy Toad T

Nah. It’s that he operates outside of their control.

For instance, I think Trump is probably more electable than Cruz.

True point.

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Great White Snark  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:28:59pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:29:39pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

We have always been at war with NATO.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:32:12pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

Trump: ‘Why is it that Germany’s not dealing with NATO on Ukraine? Why is it that other countries that are in the vicinity of Ukraine, why aren’t they dealing? Why are we always the one that’s leading, potentially the third world war with Russia.’

Why is America leading!

A leading Republican candidate, a prohibitive favorite at this point, is asking this question!

The sky outside my window is still blue, but that’s about the only thing I’m sure of.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:32:14pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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O_o

Rethink our participation in NATO? Maybe he really WILL get along well with Putin, who I’m sure would be tickled pink.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:33:10pm

re: #162 Testy Toad T

Nah. It’s that he operates outside of their control.

For instance, I think Trump is probably more electable than Cruz.

These things are very hard to predict. For example, the recent poll showing that Trump as the GOP nominee would put Utah (!) into play is unbelievable on its face, but might actually be true.

FWIW, my prediction is an unpleasantly close race in the general election if the GOP manages to close ranks in some orderly way. Fortunately, this looks unlikely, and a bitterly contested convention seems to be the least of the GOP’s likely future troubles.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:34:59pm

re: #171 EPR-radar

FWIW, my prediction is an unpleasantly close race in the general election if the GOP manages to close ranks in some orderly way.

Given who we’re up against, I would describe a 500-38 electoral college victory as unpleasantly close.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:35:17pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

GDP of US in 1949, when NATO was established: $272.8 billion.
GDP in 2014: $17,348.1 billion (that’s $17 trillion and change - like the entire 1949 economy added in with room to spare).

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:35:21pm

re: #169 Testy Toad T

Why is America leading!

A leading Republican candidate, a prohibitive favorite at this point, is asking this question!

The sky outside my window is still blue, but that’s about the only thing I’m sure of.

The paleo-cons have always been isolationists. Trump isn’t picky about which stupid conservative ideas he includes in his Kool-Aid.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:35:44pm

The Greenwald crew is raging about Hillary’s speech to AIPAC. I just read it. It’s the same old boilerplate speech politicians have been giving to AIPAC for decades. Did they expect her to come out and say “DEATH TO ISRAEL” or something?

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nines09  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:36:21pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Says the Party Of Personal Responsibility.

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b.d.  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:38:11pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

O_o

Rethink our participation in NATO? Maybe he really WILL get along well with Putin, who I’m sure would be tickled pink.

[trump] NATO was negotiated poorly, we should have had the entire Atlantic and not just the North Atlantic. Weak. [/trump]

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:38:52pm


re: #175 Charles Johnson

Nope, just cart out the corpse of Yasir Arafat, reminding everyone of the Rabin-Arafat handshake with Bill standing there, hoping that this might be the time when the sides had leaders willing to take the hard steps to peace (as Sadat did and Begin followed). Israel did. The Palestinians didn’t. And still don’t.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:39:17pm

re: #172 Testy Toad T

Given who we’re up against, I would describe a 500-38 electoral college victory as unpleasantly close.

Too true. Unfortunately, the Democrats aren’t going to get 500 electoral votes, unless the GOP manages to split into three or more pieces.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:39:32pm

re: #173 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

GDP of US in 1949, when NATO was established: $272.8 billion.
GDP in 2014: $17,348.1 billion (that’s $17 trillion and change - like the entire 1949 economy added in with room to spare).

He’s going to “stand up” to Russia by leaving NATO just like how he’s going to “stand up” to China by getting rid of the trade deals with Japan and South Korea.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:40:26pm

re: #180 Timothy Watson

It’s important to remember that Trump’s ideas aren’t always necessarily bad. A better description would be “incoherent”.

The badness just comes along for the ride, generally.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:40:36pm

I will say that AIPAC has slowly morphed into a pretty extreme group over the past ten years; it’s basically the voice of far right Israeli Likud policy now. But it’s still a pretty much mandatory stop on the campaign trail, and acting outraged because Clinton spoke to them is ridiculous.

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Ming5000  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:40:39pm

re: #107 Ziggy_TARDIS

Point. They really do make me angry, and I need to vent.

This is the place to vent. You can even say, “Somebody has to talk me down on these Berniacs.”

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:41:32pm

re: #178 lawhawk

So, they should give up Jerusalem, along with most of the West Bank?

Because, the current map looks like this.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:43:02pm

re: #178 lawhawk

Right now, Palestinians are only getting Zones A & B, with no water rights.

That’s not a nation, that is the equivalent of a reservation.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:43:10pm

re: #173 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

GDP of US in 1949, when NATO was established: $272.8 billion.
GDP in 2014: $17,348.1 billion (that’s $17 trillion and change - like the entire 1949 economy added in with room to spare).

You don’t seriously expect Trump to have done his economics homework.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:43:42pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

I wonder what kind of impact a far right person winning the Presidency would have on the far right movements in Europe and Australia?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:43:43pm

I swear to god, I woke up on a different planet this morning. The GOP frontrunner, who’s been going on and on about leadership and the US not being enough of a leader, now wants to abdicate leadership of NATO, at a time when Putin’s Russia is doing military adventurism to distract people from what happens to a petrodollar-based economy when the price of oil falls?

What the fuck?

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unproven innocence  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:43:47pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Instead of being part of NATO, maybe we could just outsource all of our security stuff to China and/or India. I’m sure any US president that thinks this country should be governed like a business would be quick to claim annual savings on the order of trillions of dollars, and insist on pocketing a “fair” portion of it. Not that we are very far from that situation already.

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Jack Burton  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:44:51pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

I will say that AIPAC has slowly morphed into a pretty extreme group over the past ten years; it’s basically the voice of far right Israeli Likud policy now. But it’s still a pretty much mandatory stop on the campaign trail, and acting outraged because Clinton spoke to them is ridiculous.

You said that out loud. You might not get your Zionist Check anymore.

//

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:46:15pm

re: #127 Franklin

The last campaign that tried to use my Senior Senator’s heritage against her packed up his pickup truck and moved to NH.

Thanks for nothing!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:46:39pm
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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:46:54pm

re: #188 Blind Frog Belly White

I swear to god, I woke up on a different planet this morning. The GOP frontrunner, who’s been going on and on about leadership and the US not being enough of a leader, now wants to abdicate leadership of NATO, at a time when Putin’s Russia is doing military adventurism to distract people from what happens to a petrodollar-based economy when the price of oil falls?

What the fuck?

Bet you $10 no one in the media brings this to Trump or their viewers attention.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:47:44pm

re: #193 Franklin

Bet you $10 no one in the media brings this to Trump or their viewers attention.

I never bet against a sure thing.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:47:46pm

re: #184 Ziggy_TARDIS

Abbas is more interested in maintaining his cushy gig than he is in working towards any kind of deal and accepts the status quo as acceptable to him, even if Palestinians are still screwed by both their own leaders and Israel. Netenyahu is not interested in a peace deal either - pointing squarely at what happened with the Gaza disengagement.

It’ll take new blood to move towards any kind of peace deal.

Borders and land swaps are going to be part of any peace deal, and I would envision some kind of internationalization or co-governance over Jerusalem’s Holy Sites - perhaps a Vatican leader, Israeli leader, and Palestinian leader who sets Jerusalem policies (since that’ll be the most contested of the areas on any map). But pragmatic decisions aren’t going to be made by Israel’s right wing governments, and they’ll rely on fact that Hamas remains in power in Gaza as their cudgel.

Palestinians will likewise point at the right wing governments in Israel as proof nothing happens. And most Palestinians will muddle though hoping that somehow they can make a better life for themselves and their kids while their own leaders seek only to enrich themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:48:08pm

re: #193 Franklin

Bet you $10 no one in the media brings this to Trump or their viewers attention.

Of course not. I’m hopeful that’s something that Clinton would pounce on him for at a debate.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:48:54pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

Charles, unimportant in the scheme of things, but Sergey noted that I had a comment downdinged multiple times by the same person (who said he’d never even looked at the comment until Sergey’s post, then tried to upding multiple times.)

Thought it might indicate some sort of glitch.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:50:08pm

re: #50 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why does Obama say something is wrong with America? There’s nothing wrong with America!!!

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN!!!!!

If there’s nothing wrong with America then what are you so unhappy with it? (Asking the wingnut)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:51:46pm

re: #197 BeachDem

Charles, unimportant in the scheme of things, but Sergey noted that I had a comment downdinged multiple times by the same person (who said he’d never even looked at the comment until Sergey’s post, then tried to upding multiple times.)

Thought it might indicate some sort of glitch.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

Wow, he must HATE you!
////////////////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:53:28pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:54:14pm

re: #162 Testy Toad T

Nah. It’s that he operates outside of their control.

For instance, I think Trump is probably more electable than Cruz.

I really don’t think he is. As abhorrent as Cruz is, his positions on issues are standard GOP, and the party could easily rally to him. Trump has extremely limited appeal outside of his blue collar white male base, a lot of Republicans will disown him, and he will positively energize Hispanics to vote against him. I think if Trump is the nominee, not only does Hillary win the biggest landslide victory for a Democrat since 1964, we might even get a Democratic House and Senate, giving her two years to get some legislation passed before the mid-terms.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:54:41pm

re: #198 Romantic Heretic

If there’s nothing wrong with America then what are you so unhappy with it? (Asking the wingnut)

Obama: America is not perfect.

Obama hates America!!

Trump: America is a hellhole!

Trump for President!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:55:18pm

re: #197 BeachDem

Charles, unimportant in the scheme of things, but Sergey noted that I had a comment downdinged multiple times by the same person (who said he’d never even looked at the comment until Sergey’s post, then tried to upding multiple times.)

Thought it might indicate some sort of glitch.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

Wow, that’s very odd. Just checked and all of those downdings happened at exactly the same time. Never seen this before in more than 11 million comment ratings - still investigating but I think it must be some kind of rare Internet weirdness.

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withak  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:57:04pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Wow, that’s very odd. Just checked and all of those downdings happened at exactly the same time. Never seen this before in more than 11 million comment ratings - still investigating but I think it must be some kind of rare Internet weirdness.

I know what I’m blaming my next bug on! That, or cosmic rays.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:58:19pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Wow, that’s very odd. Just checked and all of those downdings happened at exactly the same time. Never seen this before in more than 11 million comment ratings - still investigating but I think it must be some kind of rare Internet weirdness.

Superdelegate.

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unproven innocence  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:58:36pm

re: #204 withak

I know what I’m blaming my next bug on! That, or cosmic rays.

Gravity waves. I’ll wave back: Hi, gravity.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:59:29pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Wow, that’s very odd. Just checked and all of those downdings happened at exactly the same time. Never seen this before in more than 11 million comment ratings - still investigating but I think it must be some kind of rare Internet weirdness.

Well leave it to me to break the Internet!

(I was feeling some bad karma last night, but wasn’t quite sure why)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:59:36pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Wow, that’s very odd. Just checked and all of those downdings happened at exactly the same time. Never seen this before in more than 11 million comment ratings - still investigating but I think it must be some kind of rare Internet weirdness.

everybody has to have an utterly wtf?? bug from time to time

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piratedan  Mar 21, 2016 • 12:59:59pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

I guess that means that the rest of us will now have to take off our shoes before we can downding anyone.. damn NetTSA…. //////

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:00:03pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Wow, that’s very odd. Just checked and all of those downdings happened at exactly the same time. Never seen this before in more than 11 million comment ratings - still investigating but I think it must be some kind of rare Internet weirdness.

When was the last time you ran a full internet gremlins check?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:00:08pm

re: #204 withak

I know what I’m blaming my next bug on! That, or cosmic rays.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:00:45pm

re: #207 BeachDem

Well leave it to me to break the Internet!

(I was feeling some bad karma last night, but wasn’t quite sure why)

And you didn’t even have to post pictures of you pouring champagne on your ginormous butt!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:00:51pm

mischievous hamsters obviously found the ding control room unlocked last night.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:01:49pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

mischievous hamsters obviously found the ding control room unlocked last night.

Now the place will be full of fast food wrappers and beer bottles.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:02:09pm

It’s a warning from the future that our disregard of climate change is going to destroy everything.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:02:13pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

And you didn’t even have to post pictures of you pouring champagne on your ginormous butt!

I’m just glad I got the reference, or I’d be wondering where you saw picture of my ginormous butt!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:03:37pm

re: #216 BeachDem

I’m just glad I got the reference, or I’d be wondering where you saw picture of my ginormous butt!

It would have seemed oddly specific, if you didn’t know the reference, I’d think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:05:39pm

He just can’t let go of it…

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:06:28pm

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:07:55pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

He just can’t let go of it…

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To be fair, it gets brought up a lot. And that is awesome.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:09:00pm

re: #215 Belafon

It’s a warning from the future that our disregard of climate change is going to destroy everything.

The Time Lords Masters* carefully calculated that a few extra unexplained downdings would lead to an incremental improvement in LGF’s code, which would increase our ability to convince Bernie Bros to vote for Hillary, just in time to tip the scales in the current election, leading to America not abandoning Climate treaties, saving the planet, but with otherwise minimal impact on the timeline.

*Because I want to live in the DC universe where Arthur Darvill runs the time machine, not the BBC one where he’s a passenger.
//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:09:34pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

He just can’t let go of it…

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Which is pretty amazing for a man with such short fingers!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:09:59pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

Me too. Even longer than that, in fact. I think that’s why I have really been enjoying my 30s. I am finally, a mature, confident, fully functioning adult with a little experience to guide me.

I found my 30’s to be just great: I could relate with teenagers as well as I could with people in their 50’s

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piratedan  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:10:48pm

re: #220 Franklin

if only as much scrutiny was paid to his financial acumen and bigotry and misogyny…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:12:43pm

re: #224 piratedan

if only as much scrutiny was paid to his financial acumen and bigotry and misogyny…

don’t think he is too dumb not to have figured that out…

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:13:26pm

re: #224 piratedan

if only as much scrutiny was paid to his financial acumen and bigotry and misogyny…

It is. But generally, the media tends to ignore those issues in favor of frivolous bullshit like his hands. Where it isn’t actively fluffing his campaign…

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Lidane  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:14:51pm
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unproven innocence  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:15:43pm

re: #208 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

everybody has to have an utterly wtf?? bug from time to time

I’ve spent literally years tweeking, enhancing, polishing, and rewriting a custom programming environment which ran a small bit of code literally hundreds of thousands of times per second. So damn simple, it *has* to work. About 8 or so instructions. Small enough to fit in the CPU instruction pipeline/cache. And the custom OS with that snippet of code at the heart of it would run *flawlessly* for weeks at a time. But then it would fail.

The custom register dumps (both 16bit and 32bit) that I wrote for handling/diagnosing errors would show me *exactly* where the “error” was occurring. Somehow, the state of the carry bit was getting corrupted in the single-core CPU, from time to time, on W98se. I gave up when the hard drive died.

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TedStriker  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:16:50pm

re: #188 Blind Frog Belly White

I swear to god, I woke up on a different planet this morning. The GOP frontrunner, who’s been going on and on about leadership and the US not being enough of a leader, now wants to abdicate leadership of NATO, at a time when Putin’s Russia is doing military adventurism to distract people from what happens to a petrodollar-based economy when the price of oil falls?

What the fuck?

Feature of Trump’s “policy”, not a bug?

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:18:08pm

re: #229 TedStriker

Feature of Trump’s “policy”, not a bug?

I don’t think he particularly recognizes either.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:19:00pm

re: #228 unproven innocence

I’ve spent literally years tweeking, enhancing, polishing, and rewriting a custom programming environment which ran a small bit of code literally hundreds of thousands of times per second. So damn simple, it *has* to work. About 8 or so instructions. Small enough to fit in the CPU instruction pipeline/cache. And the custom OS with that snippet of code at the heart of it would run *flawlessly* for weeks at a time. But then it would fail.

The custom register dumps (both 16bit and 32bit) that I wrote for handling/diagnosing errors would show me *exactly* where the “error” was occurring. Somehow, the state of the carry bit was getting corrupted in the single-core CPU, from time to time, on W98se. I gave up when the hard drive died.

I can say I did not understand anything in this post except for the last sentence (but I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter if you have one)
/

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unproven innocence  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:21:19pm

re: #231 BeachDem

Sorry, no newsletter.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:23:06pm

haha

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:26:48pm

re: #197 BeachDem

Charles, unimportant in the scheme of things, but Sergey noted that I had a comment downdinged multiple times by the same person (who said he’d never even looked at the comment until Sergey’s post, then tried to upding multiple times.)

Thought it might indicate some sort of glitch.

littlegreenfootballs.com
littlegreenfootballs.com

Welp, I went ahead and fixed the rating for that comment - deleted the spurious ratings by Shiplord Kirel. I’m unable to explain how four downdings could have happened at exactly the same time - the code that handles inserting ratings into the DB does a sanity check to make sure a user can’t rate something more than once, and I have no idea how this strange incident got past that sanity check.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:27:19pm

re: #219 Whack-A-Mole

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:30:55pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

she links to breitfart…

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:31:31pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

He just can’t let go of it…

Donald Trump tells WaPo ed board: “My hands are normal hands”

Hmm… I was told I had short fingers by a music teacher in school, but at least my index & middle fingers span the width of the palms of my hands.
Unlike those freakish paws Trump is sporting…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:32:12pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Clearly something has gone insane.

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Nojay UK  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:32:23pm

re: #113 Jenner7

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Yes. Good.

Does that “Cuban soil” reference cover Guantanamo Bay prison?

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Timothy Watson  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:33:37pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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she links to breitfart…

Translation?

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Franklin  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:34:52pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yippee! We’re blacklisted! Patriots who’ve had enough of Washington DC hypocrisy and t’aint gonna take it anymore are now officially “blacklisted”

1. Taint
2. WTF

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EmmaAnne  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:35:42pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

Wow, that’s very odd. Just checked and all of those downdings happened at exactly the same time. Never seen this before in more than 11 million comment ratings - still investigating but I think it must be some kind of rare Internet weirdness.

I actually clicked the flag to bring it to your attention, but I was supposed to confirm the comment was abusive, which it wasn’t, so I backed out. For the future, is flagging a good way to bring things to your attention, or should it only be used for abusive comments?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:36:07pm

re: #241 Franklin

1. Taint
2. WTF

more word salad, with extra whine

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Lidane  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:40:45pm
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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:42:11pm

re: #235 A Mom Anon

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CuriousLurker  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:47:00pm

OT - Just wondering if anyone knows if heads are exploding yet over today’s Google Doodle:

Today’s winning Google Doodle invoking Black Lives Matter was designed by high school sophomore

“I based this picture off my lifestyle and what has made into what I am today,” she stated as part of her entry, which today is featured on Google’s home page.

“As a child, I attended Roots [Public Charter School] and Roots [Activity Learning Center], so I was raised in the ‘Afrocentric lifestyle,’ ” Akilah told The Post, referring to educational institutions in Northwest Washington that tout “culturally relevant curriculum” and the aim to serve “the specific needs of children of African heritage.”

“One of my teachers from Roots, Baba Camera, is really what made me look at art in a different way,” Akilah said. “As I grew older, I had realized that the black people that came before us has made us into what we are today, so of course I has to include them in some way.” (“Of all the things I chose to include,” Akilah writes on Google’s site, “the six most special to me are the Symbol of Life (the ankh), the African continent, where everything began for me and my ancestors, the Eye of Horus, the word ‘power’ drawn in black, the woman’s fist based on one of my favorite artist’s works, and the D.C. flag — because I’m a Washingtonian at heart and I love my city with everything in me!”) […]

Besides seeing her work spotlighted on Google’s home page, Akilah will receive a $30,000 college scholarship, and her high school will be awarded a $50,000 Google for Education grant “towards the establishment and improvement of a computer lab or technology program.” She also will get to meet with professional artists at Google’s headquarters. […]

washingtonpost.com

I can hear it in my head already:

Google is racist!! White genocide!! Persecution!! It’s stifling conservatives’ free speech—I’ll bet the libtard sites are getting better page rankings on purpose!!11! #ShadowBanning #WAR

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:47:20pm

re: #242 EmmaAnne

I actually clicked the flag to bring it to your attention, but I was supposed to confirm the comment was abusive, which it wasn’t, so I backed out. For the future, is flagging a good way to bring things to your attention, or should it only be used for abusive comments?

If you want to bring something to my attention and need to explain why, it’s probably better to use the Contact link in the top menu.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:48:54pm

re: #244 Lidane

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Florida officials have also been accused of pushing a prison gerrymandering scheme on the federal level, and were caught by reporters this year discussing how such a tactic could be used to unseat African-American Congress member Corrine Brown (D-FL). The maps, which are also being challenged in court, put 18 prisons in Brown’s district, driving up the population count with inmates who can’t legally cast a ballot.

Just…wow. These are ELECTED officials doing this. What the fuck?

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Lidane  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:50:17pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Just…wow. These are ELECTED officials doing this. What the fuck?

The GOP’s got to keep their hold on power somehow. All those districts aren’t going to gerrymander themselves.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:50:22pm

re: #244 Lidane

I can’t tell how this and the lawsuit going through Texas trying to say that the state should not be counting nonvoting people - immigrants and prisoners - when determining districts mean to each other.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:52:41pm
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Danack  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:54:16pm

Forget “peak wingnut”, we’re now approaching peak “no ‘rhymes with bucket’ left to give”:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:54:48pm

re: #246 CuriousLurker

I haven’t seen any right wingers freaking out about that one yet. They probably haven’t noticed. Give them a little while.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:55:04pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Just…wow. These are ELECTED officials doing this. What the fuck?

WE’Z JUSS KEEPIN WIT CONSTATUSHIONAL CONSERVATIVISM!!1!1 TEH FUNDERS HAD THE THREEFIFTHS CLAUSE FOR A REASON

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:56:24pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

I volunteer at my church doing a variety of administrative and support roles. I’ll never forget the time one of the youth pastors wanted me to send out a message regarding a very serious event in Comic Sans.

I straight out told him: “No, there’s no way that will work. Let me give you some alternative choices and you can pick the one you like the most.”

That worked. Now I just pray he never stumbles across Papyrus…

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:56:26pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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she links to breitfart…

I tried earlier to read her FB rant.

It is the winner of all of her rants.

I dare anyone to get through the whole thing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:57:02pm

re: #252 Danack

You should have put that in spoiler tags, c’mon man!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 21, 2016 • 1:57:08pm

re: #252 Danack

If only that were real. He should do it over with that painting of Trump there. lol

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A Mom Anon  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:01:26pm

re: #245 Whack-A-Mole

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:03:14pm

re: #256 Stanley Sea

I tried earlier to read her FB rant.

It is the winner of all of her rants.

I dare anyone to get through the whole thing.

Nope. Can’t do it.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:07:10pm

re: #234 Charles Johnson

Thanks—I actually think Sergey said that at one point there were six downdings from SK, who, as I mentioned, said he’d never even seen that post till Sergey made his comment.

Just another day through the looking glass, and definitely not of great import (although I’ll take all the good karma I can get!)

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:07:54pm

re: #250 Belafon

I can’t tell how this and the lawsuit going through Texas trying to say that the state should not be counting nonvoting people - immigrants and prisoners - when determining districts mean to each other.

I think they are two different issues, but could both be very interesting from a constitutional law perspective. On the one hand, nonvoting people - immigrants, prisoners, minors - are counted in the census and are part of the apportionment process*. So drawing district lines that include them isn’t per se unconstitutional. But drawing lines based on those populations with the specific intent of disenfranchising voters is a whole other issue. Courts are typically disinclined to get into issues like this unless there has been a real breach of equal protection.

*In my opinion, one of the problems with the entire thing is that we haven’t increased the number of Representatives since 1911 (except in 1959 when we added two representatives for Hawaii and Alaska, seats that were abolished in 1961). The 1910 census counted 92 million people, 2010 had us just short of 309 million people - drawing district lines becomes more difficult in those situations.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:08:49pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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she links to breitfart…

What is that supposed to say in English-like language? (I’ve fallen behind in my Palinese studies.)

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:15:24pm

re: #246 CuriousLurker

Wow. She’s got skills!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:16:58pm

This should be a hoot:

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Whack-A-Mole  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:17:00pm

re: #259 A Mom Anon

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mmmirele  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:19:54pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

This should be a hoot:

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He has a foreign policy beyond “build a wall”, “kick out the Muslims,” and “get out of NATO”? Who knew?

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:20:39pm

re: #267 mmmirele

He has a foreign policy beyond “build a wall”, “kick out the Muslims,” and “get out of NATO”? Who knew?

And “we should be more like China”

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:21:27pm

re: #246 CuriousLurker

OT - Just wondering if anyone knows if heads are exploding yet over today’s Google Doodle

I can hear it in my head already:

Google is racist!! White genocide!! Persecution!! It’s stifling conservatives’ free speech—I’ll bet the libtard sites are getting better page rankings on purpose!!11! #ShadowBanning #WAR

More art for a reason:

Don’t know the reason, and the account seems dormant, but what art!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:22:19pm
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Jenner7  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:22:26pm

Not surprised.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:23:22pm

re: #271 Jenner7

Not surprised.

His campaign is a Gish Gallop of embarrassment.

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Archangelus  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:24:04pm

re: #26 Kragar

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#SaferThanATrumpRally

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mmmirele  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:24:22pm

re: #271 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Not surprised.

His boss is on wife 3 and makes crude, demeaning remarks about women. Definitely not surprised.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:25:11pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

His foreign policy is that the world should be about him, and he’ll talk at them about how he is uniquely qualified for everything on the planet to be totally about himself.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:25:12pm

p.s. I turned CNN to HGTV the minute the cretin showed up.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:26:02pm
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Jack Burton  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:26:43pm

re: #273 Archangelus

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:26:58pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

This should be a hoot:

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It’ll be interesting to see how he reacts to the planned protests, walkouts and people turning their backs.

We must let him speak but we are not obliged to listen,” an AIPAC attendee said on the protest’s organizing Facebook page, which has nearly 1,800 members.

“Our goal is not to disrupt the proceedings or to offend any of our fellow conference attendees. Our hope is to shine a moral light on the darkness that has enveloped Mr. Trump’s campaign,” reads the description of the Facebook event, “Come Together Against Hate.”

In an interview with Breitbart, Rabbi David Paskin, an organizer of the protest, said the walkout is a reaction to Trump calling Mexican immigrants rapists, most Muslims terrorists, and American Jews money-hungry negotiators.

Code Pink and a Palestinian activist group are also expected to hold demonstrations, according to the New York Times.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:27:08pm

re: #276 Stanley Sea

Trump reminds me of the old version of a candidate on a whistle stop tour, saying whatever will get the most votes in each town, knowing full well that what he says in one town won’t be reported in the next.

The only problem for Trump (and saving grace for the rest of us) is that everything he says is recorded.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:29:15pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:30:22pm

A disaster a minute!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:32:26pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:33:31pm

[…]

BT maize was the latest to be released for national field trials, which will see new varieties chosen for eventual release to individual farms.

The new variety that has shown encouraging resilience in semi-arid areas has shown resistance to insects and drought-tolerance capabilities resulting in high yields.

[…]

Confined field trials for transgenic sorghum containing pro-vitamin A and enhanced iron and zinc bio-availability are currently under way and are aimed at enabling poor populations in semi-arid and arid areas to access GM sorghum that will address reported developmental challenges among children.

[…]

The Virus Resistant Cassava for Africa project aims to develop improved cassava varieties resistant to the cassava brown streak and cassava mosaic diseases, thereby enabling families to produce enough for their own use and surplus that could be sold for extra income.

The National Biosafety and Appeals Board is closely monitoring Bt cotton, which was released for national field trial last year after it showed positive gains at confined field trials.

[…]

Plus chickens.

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sagehen  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:33:35pm

re: #95 KGxvi

That was something I talked to my mom about yesterday… She brought up the idea of reparations yesterday. I told her it wasn’t going to happen, we wouldn’t even pay reparations to our own citizens that we put in internment camps during WW2, we’re not going to pay them to Cuba. But she is reflexively anti-Obama in a way that I cannot understand or explain.

actually… we did pay reparations to Japanese-Americans for the camps. It happened during the Reagan Administration.

Congress first passed an appropriation for money; they said money isn’t enough, we really want an apology. It went back to Congress, they passed an appropriation with an apology, and Reagan made a speech that included an apology, then they accepted the money.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:33:50pm

It looks like The Donald’s hair color is oozing across his face.

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Archangelus  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:34:34pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This JUST became Ynet’s main headline (in Hebrew of course):


Here’s the thing: Trump’s been, thus far, the recipient of considerable support from many Israelis (who don’t know much about internal US politics and viewed him as a good Pro-Israel candidate and underdog). And what’s more, unlike it’s English edition, the Hebrew version of that website is viewed by several MILLION Israelis everyday, so right now, everyone in the country is finding

So I think it’s safe to say that with this little bit, said support is as good as gone…

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CuriousLurker  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:35:34pm

re: #269 wrenchwench

More art for a reason:

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Don’t know the reason, and the account seems dormant, but what art!

Indeed—it’s gorgeous!

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:44:16pm

re: #285 sagehen

actually… we did pay reparations to Japanese-Americans for the camps. It happened during the Reagan Administration.

Congress first passed an appropriation for money; they said money isn’t enough, we really want an apology. It went back to Congress, they passed an appropriation with an apology, and Reagan made a speech that included an apology, then they accepted the money.

Ugh, forgot about that. Just remember Koramastu v. US

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:44:44pm

re: #276 Stanley Sea

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p.s. I turned CNN to HGTV the minute the cretin showed up.

HGTV and Food Network are saving my sanity this election season.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:45:53pm
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sagehen  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:46:14pm

re: #151 KGxvi

I don’t take it as disrespect. Cuban-Americans have been much more politically active, so their voices are the ones that get heard the most. I think part of it is because of Cuba’s proximity. There was, for decades, the hope that Castro would fail and that they’d be able to return home. Most who would consider Cuba home have died or are close to death. The emotion was passed on to their children. But their grandchildren are less passionate, or at least see a different way because that fight is not our fight.

Also, Cuba’s successful revolution provided an inspirational example to Puerto Rican revolutionaries. Long before we worried about Muslim terrorists, FALN was hijacking American planes, bombing American buildings, there was that time they brought automatic weapons into the Capitol and shot up Congress, they tried to assassinate Harry Truman (his bodyguard died protecting him on that occasion)…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:47:02pm

DimJim is DISGUSTED!!!111!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:48:26pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“And make Israel pay for it!”

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Testy Toad T  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:50:45pm

A yuuuuuuuuge, classy, winner’s embassy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:51:57pm
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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:54:07pm

“I was the Grand Marshal, not so long ago, of the Israeli Day Parade down Fifth Avenue.”

He was grand marshall in 2004—talk about digging deep to come up with something. (And he’ll be pissed he’s not mentioned on the wiki page)

en.wikipedia.org

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Archangelus  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:57:20pm

Fun fact #1: Ynet is the online branch of Israel’s leading (by far) newspaper Yediot Aharonot.
Fun fact #2: now’s the time of the day when Israeli newspaper editorial boards finalize the stories for the next day’s papers.

I will literally eat one of my many hats (with salt and paprika ofc) if the current headline photo I linked above isn’t the cover of the newspapers at the doorsteps of most of the country’s homes in a few hours from now…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2016 • 2:58:09pm

Right at the top of Google’s search results for AIPAC 2016 is this.

Google really does a shit job of curating their News results, and that neglect bleeds into the main page results under the “In the News” section, which always sits at the top.

Horserace Uber Alles.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2016 • 3:07:27pm

re: #288 Archangelus

This JUST became Ynet’s main headline (in Hebrew of course):

Can you translate, for us non-Hebrew-speakers?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 21, 2016 • 3:08:50pm

Ouch. Jurors just tacked on another $25m onto the Gawker settlement.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 21, 2016 • 3:12:14pm

As one would expect, the RWNJs have gone to derpcon 1 over Obama’s trip to Cuba.

Here we have a twofer, Rush Limbaugh’s screed with freeper comments:
Obama Lands in Cuba: One Small Step for Man, One Giant Leap for Marxism

RUSH: Yeah, so Obama is in Cuba. A bunch of the Drive-By Media are in Cuba and they’re wearing Che Guevara shirts and other Cuban revolutionary garb. Chris Cuomo, the son of Mario “The Pious” is wearing a shirt that Castro gave Mario “The Pious,” as he’s there with ABC.
BREAK (for sleazy commercials)
RUSH: As I said to open the program, President Obama has landed in Havana. One small step for man, one giant leap for Marxism. We have a montage of Drive-By Media types. This is the most excited they have been for an airplane landing since Gorbachev touched down in the US in 1986. That’s when they all had the first collective known Gorbasm.

Like Pavlov’s dogs, the freeper pack comes howling at Rush’s ideological dinner bell.

“Can’t Mullah Obama just stay there!”

“Too bad there isn’t a way for Obama to defect to Cuba. He won’t be missed in the USA — except by the socialist/Marxist Donkeys and synchophant RINOs.”
(hey, you left out gay Muslim ISIS infiltrators-SK)

“Is it true Obama has asked for asylum?”

Another string hits hard on the ever-popular wingnut theme of Obama as commie dictator:
President Obama and Castro call for end of Cuba embargo

“And I call for the end of the dictatorships in Cuba and in the USA, but realize that only the latter dictatorship is likely to end.”

“Two disgusting communists.
Why do I think this latest trade cr** is involved.”

Had to smile at this one, though (so I’m evil):

“At least Che is still dead.”

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Archangelus  Mar 21, 2016 • 3:12:51pm

re: #301 Jay C

Pretty much what you’d expect it to be: “Trump: Israel Should Pay for Military Aid”
“Moments before his AIPAC speech, the Republican candidate issued a statement that will not be received pleasantly there. “Israel will also pay,” he replied when asked at a press conference about the defensive aid the US provides to Israel. He later called for moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem”

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2016 • 3:23:48pm

re: #304 Archangelus

Thanks.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:03:31am

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

O_o

Rethink our participation in NATO? Maybe he really WILL get along well with Putin, who I’m sure would be tickled pink.

Yes, the more Trump speaks and acts concerning policy direction the more I’m convinced he gets all of his information from RT and other Putin hack sources. Meaning, he really is a Manchurian Candidate in real life.

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FlowerPower  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:12:36am

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

The Time Lords Masters* carefully calculated that a few extra unexplained downdings would lead to an incremental improvement in LGF’s code, which would increase our ability to convince Bernie Bros to vote for Hillary, just in time to tip the scales in the current election, leading to America not abandoning Climate treaties, saving the planet, but with otherwise minimal impact on the timeline.

*Because I want to live in the DC universe where Arthur Darvill runs the time machine, not the BBC one where he’s a passenger.
//

This was so geeking awesome I had to sign up just to upvote it!


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