Far Right PAC Releases Deceptive Video to Make It Seem Like Bill Clinton Was Bashing Obama

Another fraudulent attack - and Bernie Sanders helps them spread it
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Here’s the latest deceptive video being circulated by right wingers to smear Bill Clinton by taking a statement out of context. Notice: it’s a 24-second clip, posted to YouTube by the far right propaganda PAC calling itself “America Rising.”

Here’s the full statement with the sections cut out of this clip:

“I literally from the time I met her 45 years ago until we talked yesterday, she is the best change maker I have ever known. She always finds a way to make something good happen, to make people feel empowered, to buy people into the process, to make democracy work the way the framers intended for it to work. Now if you don’t believe we can all grow together again, if you don’t believe we’re ever going to grow again, if you believe it’s more important to re-litigate the past, there may be many reasons that you don’t want to support her.

“But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the seven years before that where we were practicing trickle-down economics with no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for her. Because she’s the only person who basically has good ideas, will tell you how she’s going to pay for them, can be commander-in-chief, and is a proven change maker with Republicans and Democrats and Independents alike.”

And here’s Bill Clinton’s statement tonight about this fake controversy:

An aide to Bill Clinton says the legacy he was referring to was Republicans’ obstructionism.

“When Republicans controlled the White House, their trickle-down approach drove our economy to the brink of a collapse. After President Obama was elected, Republicans made it their number one goal to block him at every turn,” spokesman Angel Urena said in a statement. “That unprecedented obstruction these last eight years is their legacy, and the American people should reject it by electing Hillary Clinton to build on President Obama’s success so we can all grow and succeed together.”

This video clip is now posted all over the right wing universe, and it’s fraudulent; it’s an edited clip that distorts Bill Clinton’s words to make it seem like “the awful legacy of the last eight years” was referring to the Obama presidency. But it wasn’t. He was talking about the economic collapse and the subsequent Republican obstructionism during the Obama presidency. That’s what President Clinton meant by “awful legacy” — the legacy of Republican economic malfeasance and obstructionism.

Pro-tip: when you see a 24-second video clip from a right wing PAC, it’s almost certainly an out-of-context dishonest hit job.

This, folks, is what right wingers do; they lie and deliberately distort statements by taking them out of context.

But it’s really disappointing to see Bernie Sanders helping them do it.

Sanders needs to do the right thing now, and apologize for helping spread this smear campaign that originated with a right wing propaganda organization.

Also see
No, Bill Clinton Did Not Describe The Obama Administration As An ‘Awful Legacy’ | Crooks and Liars

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245 comments
1
Kragar  Mar 21, 2016 • 9:49:04pm

Bernie Sanders proves that the friend of my enemy is my enemy

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2016 • 9:51:34pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2016 • 9:52:40pm

Conservatives lie to advance their agenda. I. Am. Shock.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:03:01pm

I’ve been hearing what a paragon of truth and honesty and straightforwardness Bernie is.

Here’s his chance to live up to the hype.

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The Ghost of a Cunning Plan  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:09:57pm

This shows they’re not backing away from the chasm in which Trump dwells. Rather, they’re doubling down on the message that everything is the fault of liberalism. The lies are smaller, faster, but consistent in tone. This ad is the future: little counterfeits.

2018 and 2020 will bring new trumpery, guaranteed.

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Chez Ko Pe  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:12:34pm

Well, Bernie and the GOP do have a common goal…and it’s not the first time he’s stood with them, is it.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:15:47pm

Also, with regard to those smutty Melania ads run by a Cruz supporting PAC mentioned downstairs: yeah, she posed nude, but every morning that Heidi Cruz wakes up she makes a conscious choice not to throw the kids in the car and flee the country to start a new life under an assumed name in Belize.

I gotta give this to Melania. Sorry, Ted.

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The Mountain That Blogs  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:17:38pm

re: #7 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

related:

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SoundGuy 2016  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:24:59pm

re: #8 The Mountain That Blogs

The Smeagols, not says, the Jesuses enouuugghs!

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Huge Seagull  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:35:58pm

Off topic:

Are any other Mac Yosemite users (that’s right, Yosemite not El Capitan) having trouble connecting to LGF after today’s software updates? Doesn’t matter what browser I try—-can’t even ping the domain name in the terminal. Some other domains are affected too.

Windows boot camp on the same partition has no problems. Other computers on the same network have no problem.

Flushing DNS cache and other such maintenance routines: no help.

Only happened after today’s system software update (security update). Weird.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:41:27pm

OT, but I need to leave to go teach soon. I’ve posted about my former student was in a serious car-bus crash in Vegas several days ago. She’s doing much better, as this photo shows. Ashlee was up and walking around the hospital.

She’s got grit, I tell you. I’m not sure I’d be up and around after losing an arm.

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Huge Seagull  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:47:17pm

re: #10 Huge Seagull

Okay, zapping the PRAM seems to have done the trick. Or maybe I just needed to restart.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 21, 2016 • 10:59:19pm

re: #12 Huge Seagull

Okay, zapping the PRAM seems to have done the trick. Or maybe I just needed to restart.

I hope you took the baby out first. They don’t take well to electric shock.
/

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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:27:09pm

For weeks now, Bernie and his surrogates have attacked this presidency, suggested he hasn’t done enough, he hasn’t wanted to do enough, and have bemoaned the state of the country as a result. But now he has the chutzpah to browbeat the Clintons over a nontroversy whose core is a perceived attack on the legacy of President Obama?

Yeah, that’s it for me, that’s the final fucking straw. I hope they roast Bernie’s ass over an open flame at the convention, because this has gotten to the point of ridiculousness. He’s now openly promoting far-right bullshit in an effort to save his floundering campaign. We won’t get an apology, because the man doesn’t do apologies, he just moves onto the next avenue of attack. He is the worst aspects of Ron Paul and Donald Trump rolled into one very pathetic old man.

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Nyet  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:54:07pm

Have just watched Daredevil 1.1. Not bad.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2016 • 11:56:26pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

You’re a political scientist.

:)

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teleskiguy  Mar 22, 2016 • 12:03:49am

Related to some basement stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 12:45:15am

re: #14 Targetpractice

We won’t get an apology, because the man doesn’t do apologies, he just moves onto the next avenue of attack. He is the worst aspects of Ron Paul and Donald Trump rolled into one very pathetic old man.

I suspect that Bernie is a quite decent fellow, it is just hard to find decent help these days. The ones willing to work for free or on the cheap insist on doing things their own way, which is to push ideology and “enemy-bashing” over simply presenting their case why their candidate is the better choice.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 12:46:23am

Bernie stans are really cranking overtime trying to fix that outreach problem.

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 12:47:12am

Godfuckingdammit.

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:00:59am

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I suspect that Bernie is a quite decent fellow, it is just hard to find decent help these days. The ones willing to work for free or on the cheap insist on doing things their own way, which is to push ideology and “enemy-bashing” over simply presenting their case why their candidate is the better choice.

The thing is we heard this same argument from Hillary supporters in ‘08 when explaining why her campaign was making obviously dumb choices or pushing statements that were pissing people off. And the counterargument was “If these are the sorts of people she hires for her campaign, what kind of people will she appoint to her administration?”

So I ask why is he being held to a different standard than she was?

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:02:02am

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Bernie stans are really cranking overtime trying to fix that outreach problem.

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Translation: “Black people are too dumb to see what’s good for them.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:02:42am

re: #21 Targetpractice

The thing is we heard this same argument from Hillary supporters in ‘08 when explaining why her campaign was making obviously dumb choices or pushing statements that were pissing people off. And the counterargument was “If these are the sorts of people she hires for her campaign, what kind of people will she appoint to her administration?”

So I ask why is he being held to a different standard than she was?

I should have made it clear: do not assume from my statement that I support Bernie. He is a great fellow and I support a lot of what he stands for. But I do not find him to be the best choice of candidate.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:14:36am

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:15:23am

Berniacs at KOS doing back-flips trying to spin the path to victory:

Technically true? “Thriving” and Ready for a Big Moment

Some clarity from a Statistics B.A.:

A mathematical analysis is only as strong as the assumptions it is built upon. As a Statistics B.A., I can tell you that the one weak assumption underlying the ‘inevitability’ crowd is that the dynamics of this race will remain static. There are miles to go before we sleep.

Aside from ignoring superdelegates, and hoping that maybe some unknown will occur to change the race, the idea seems to be that he did well so far, considering where he started, so , you know, he can pull it off.

Is it possible for Bernie Sanders to win 58% of the remaining pledged delegates? Of course. Is it a daunting task? Of course. Going from 3% to 45% in the national polls is also a daunting task, one that Sen. Sanders has already completed.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:16:35am
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teleskiguy  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:17:39am

Ho Cake

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:18:58am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I should have made it clear: do not assume from my statement that I support Bernie. He is a great fellow and I support a lot of what he stands for. But I do not find him to be the best choice of candidate.

It’s no offense meant to yourself, but I’ve developed a bit of a hair trigger in recent weeks to fence-sitters who are trying to find reasons to cover for Bernie and his rabid fan club. All the good will I had towards the man died a slow death, with the final stake through the heart his admission last week that he’s just running the DNC primaries for the media coverage.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:24:17am

re: #28 Targetpractice

Agree. He has built up considerable credibility and could eventually be a good help to a Democratic win in the general.
I am having trouble determining when he HAS to drop out. At this point I am not sure he COULD drop out. He is still raising money and has ardent supporters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:24:36am

re: #28 Targetpractice

All the good will I had towards the man died a slow death, with the final stake through the heart his admission last week that he’s just running the DNC primaries for the media coverage.

Which, in itself is not a bad thing. Hillary would look bad running without opposition and some of Bernie’s positions are forcing her a bit to the left. Running only against the GOP candidates, she would only have to be slightly to the left of Francisco Franco in order to appear moderate.

I have no tolerance for ideologues, and even less tolerance for Bernie-or-bust supporters.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:26:59am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

This just in: Francisco Franco is still dead. (couldn’t help it)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:28:30am

re: #31 Ming5000

This just in: Francisco Franco is still dead. (couldn’t help it)

You forgot Zombie Franco!

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:29:51am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Which, in itself is not a bad thing. Hillary would look bad running without opposition and some of Bernie’s positions are forcing her a bit to the left. Running only against the GOP candidates, she would only have to be slightly to the left of Francisco Franco in order to appear moderate.

I have no tolerance for ideologues, and even less tolerance for Bernie-or-bust supporters.

See, that was yesterday. Yesterday, he was a benefit to the race because he was helping to show that she had room to move to the left and still remain in that comfortable middle ground that wins elections. Yesterday, he was wanting to focus the race on the issues, wanting us to discuss things like income inequality, like climate change, like racism.

Today, he’s spending his time demanding speech transcripts, bringing up votes on bills that Hillary wasn’t even in office to weigh in on, slamming the President’s performance, and exploiting the party for his own ends. He’s turned from an asset into a liability, one that can do a lot more damage than any good he has done the party.

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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:35:22am

In other words, just like Bernie is following Hillary’s ‘08 electoral trajectory in winning states but still getting her ass kicked in delegates, he’s now getting mean and nasty in a fashion that will follow the party and its nominee on into November.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:46:16am

re: #34 Targetpractice

I also wish Bernie would drop out.
I feel HRC would make a much better President.
I do not think Bernie is on a trajectory to win. It is over for him.
I do not think HRC should be driven to the left. A leftist Presidential candidate could lose this cycle. As leftists candidates have done before.

This isn’t a game we play every four years. This is shiv politics. (edit: cribbed from Alyosha) We have to win the Presidency.
Berniacs can start working to change the mind of their teabagger neighbors and we will talk in two years.

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:46:16am
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Targetpractice  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:47:04am

re: #36 Alyosha

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I know the “more to come” was meant in the sense of more info as it comes in, but I think the person who wrote that tweet made a poor choice in words.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:47:33am

re: #36 Alyosha

The right wing parties in EU will benefit unless the left steps up their attention to Islamism and Jihadism.

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:52:49am

Whenever something like this happens, because of the nature of the media, the tension (especially in Europe over immigration) and the cheap-shot politicians who are finding that xeno- and Islamophobia has never been hotter, I find myself gaming out how it is likely to shape opinions, frame elections and select new leaders.

And it’s so fucking depressing. And here I am assuming Islamic terrorism, too, before the facts are out.
Daesh and its cowardly catspaws play the right-wingers like fiddles and you can only really watch the shitshow unfold in real time.
Bollocks, I say!

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:55:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:56:28am

re: #39 Alyosha

Daesh and its cowardly catspaws play the right-wingers like fiddles and you can only really watch the shitshow unfold in real time.
Bollocks, I say!

Something like this happening in the USA would play right into DT’s hands and give him a major bump.

Which scares me massively.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:00:46am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Something like this happening in the USA would play right into DT’s hands and give him a major bump.

Which scares me massively.

That is one reason I like HRC to be more hawkish in her statements.

Also:
It seems if terrorists act in America they should avoid 2nd Amendment Solutions. It doesn’t really cause much fuss.

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:01:31am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Something like this happening in the USA would play right into DT’s hands and give him a major bump.

Which scares me massively.

My thoughts exactly.

It gets exhausting being in the middle and seeing apocalyptic nihilists and cynical culture warriors in a tug of war over the public’s basest emotions. And there’s almost nothing you can do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:07:58am

re: #43 Alyosha

My thoughts exactly.

It gets exhausting being in the middle and seeing apocalyptic nihilists and cynical culture warriors in a tug of war over the public’s basest emotions. And there’s almost nothing you can do.

Because Americans have demonstrated that their emotions are very base and easily manipulated. Because to many of them, playing to such emotions is called “speaking their language”

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:09:24am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Because Americans have demonstrated that their emotions are very base and easily manipulated. Because to many of them, playing to such emotions is called “speaking their language”

Not just Americans.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:10:51am

The Washington Post Editorial Board interview with Trump is an interesting read.
He is such a good talker. Regarding how terrible the Iran deal was:

TRUMP: Well, I think, number one, we shouldn’t have given the money back. I think, number two, we should have had our prisoners before the negotiations started. We should have doubled up the sanctions. We should have gone in and said, ‘release our prisoners,’ they would have said ‘no,’ and we would have said, ‘double up the sanctions,’ and within a short period of time we would have had our prisoners back.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:11:19am

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Bernie stans are really cranking overtime trying to fix that outreach problem.

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Man, fuck that noise. That’s just the right-wing’s “If women couldn’t vote Republicans would always win” repackaged with extra racism.

Bernie Bros., you are not. Helping.

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Shimshon  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:11:49am

re: #36 Alyosha

And Trump’s campaign just gained popularity. Europe is paying the price for thinking they can just take in millions of refugees and have them all sitting around doing nothing with no job opportunities.

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:22:12am

re: #48 Shimshon

And Trump’s campaign just gained popularity. Europe is paying the price for thinking they can just take in millions of refugees and have them all sitting around doing nothing with no job opportunities.

As opposed to allowing a humanitarian crisis fester on the margins? Accepting hundreds of thousands of refugees might not have been politically expedient in the short term, but I don’t think there’s much to doubt in the moral necessity of the decision.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:36:14am

re: #47 Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate

Man, fuck that noise. That’s just the right-wing’s “If women couldn’t vote Republicans would always win” repackaged with extra racism.

Bernie Bros., you are not. Helping.

And a variation on the RW’s famous “Why do blacks vote for Democrats, the party of slavery and the KKK?” meme.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:37:53am

re: #48 Shimshon

And Trump’s campaign just gained popularity. Europe is paying the price for thinking they can just take in millions of refugees and have them all sitting around doing nothing with no job opportunities.

You are really missing the point here. The refugees are there because of ISIS terror. Germany is already starting to work on integrating these people into the job market, but given the sheer numbers, it is going to be a long-term process.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:38:18am

I think Jihadism and the migration comprehend two different sets of problems with two different sets of solutions.
Remember, the Paris attack was perpetuated by French and Belgian citizens.

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:56:51am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:06:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:38:27am

Buddy of mine was supposed to fly to Brussels this afternoon for a business meeting. Seems he is arranging a web meeting instead.

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Shimshon  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:40:36am

re: #49 Alyosha

As opposed to allowing a humanitarian crisis fester on the margins? Accepting hundreds of thousands of refugees might not have been politically expedient in the short term, but I don’t think there’s much to doubt in the moral necessity of the decision.

Read my comment again. I only said their genius plan to just bring millions with no job opportunities was a recipe for disaster. These governments never spent any time figuring out what to do with the refugees once they arrived. I did not say they should not be allowed.

And back on this horrible attack note, the Iraq war, the gift that keeps on giving. Right wingers that were architects of the war and their cheerleaders are now the loudest today telling everyone their new foreign policy beliefs. How do these people not learn their lessons and stop pretending their opinions are legitimate?

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:40:53am

re: #46 Ming5000

The Washington Post Editorial Board interview with Trump is an interesting read.
He is such a good talker. Regarding how terrible the Iran deal was:

The man is a caricature. If he ends up as POTUS, our standing in the world will drop significantly from the policy he enacts. The financial plummet will be a thing to behold. I have repost this:

Trumpger games
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Shimshon  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:43:44am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You are really missing the point here. The refugees are there because of ISIS terror. Germany is already starting to work on integrating these people into the job market, but given the sheer numbers, it is going to be a long-term process.

The refugees are there because of the civil war in Syria, which was caused by the power vacuum from the Iraq war. European nations never spent any time figuring out how to get the refugees into proper housing and give them jobs, a slow economy in the EU zone did not help this. But bringing in millions with no plan was a recipe for extremism. I did not say refugees shouldn’t be accepted, I said there should have been a plan to integrate and train, educate, and give them job opportunities. Most sit around doing nothing in their groups and are ripe for exploitation from extremism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:44:24am

re: #56 Shimshon

Read my comment again. I only said their genius plan to just bring millions with no job opportunities was a recipe for disaster. These governments never spent any time figuring out what to do with the refugees once they arrived. I did not say they should not be allowed.

I find that most Germans do not have a problem with the refugees, their anger is directed at the politicians who did not foresee the extent of the crisis and failed to put measures into place in a timely manner.

The former East Germany has experienced a decline in population of nearly one million, it is hoped that refugees will help rectify that problem, but first they have to learn enough German and job skills to become employable.

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Shimshon  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:46:22am

re: #57 Le Lapin Tueur

The man is a caricature. If he ends up as POTUS, our standing in the world will drop significantly from the policy he enacts. The financial plummet will be a thing to behold. I have repost this:

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Trump is saying the same things conservatives have said for years. No matter how many times they have been wrong in the past, they keep thinking their opinions and correct. The world is suffering from blowback from Iraq, and conservatives today are obsessed with once again refusing diplomacy and beating the war drums.

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Shimshon  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:47:17am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I find that most Germans do not have a problem with the refugees, their anger is directed at the politicians who did not foresee the extent of the crisis and failed to put measures into place in a timely manner.

The former East Germany has experienced a decline in population of nearly one million, it is hoped that refugees will help rectify that problem, but first they have to learn enough German and job skills to become employable.

Again nothing to do with what I said. I didn’t say most citizens had a problem with refugees all I said is the politicians never bothered to make plans to help the millions of refugees and keep them away from being exploited by extremists. Also the few countries like Germany taking in a disproportionate amount because other EU countries didn’t want to share the burden didn’t help.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:49:35am

re: #61 Shimshon

Again nothing to do with what I said. I didn’t say most citizens had a problem with refugees all I said is the politicians never bothered to make plans to help them and keep them away from being exploited by extremists.

Except that previous recent European attacks were conducted by radicalized citizens, not refugees, and we have yet to see if any refugees were involved in today’s bombings.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:52:08am
A Top Virginia Republican Is Peddling Self-Defense Insurance to Fearful Gun Owners

Ken Cuccinelli’s practice is part of a growing number of law firms offering the controversial service.

One of Virginia’s most prominent Republican politicians is banking that gun owners in the state will pay his law firm hundreds of dollars a year to have an on-call attorney ready to defend them if they are charged with a crime or sued for shooting someone.

Ken Cuccinelli, a former Virginia attorney general, founded United Self Defense Law two years ago, following a failed gubernatorial run in an election in which gun rights played a pivotal role. “When you are forced to fight for your life, we think you should have someone ready to fight for you in court,” the firm says on its website.

There is nothing unusual about a law firm taking Second Amendment cases. But Cuccinelli’s practice is part of a burgeoning group of firms that also offer a controversial service: a form of insurance against the costs gun owners may incur if they use a firearm in what they claim was self defense.

thetrace.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:52:23am

re: #62 goddamnedfrank

Except that previous recent European attacks were conducted by radicalized citizens, not refugees, and we have yet to see if any refugees were involved in today’s bombings.

And a lot of the radicalization we see is not just among Islamists, but also among nationalist and racist groups in Europe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:54:43am

re: #63 Timothy Watson

There is nothing unusual about a law firm taking Second Amendment cases. But Cuccinelli’s practice is part of a burgeoning group of firms that also offer a controversial service: a form of insurance against the costs gun owners may incur if they use a firearm in what they claim was self defense.

As a rule, if you are using a gun to defend yourself or your family in your own home, it is assumed to be self-defense in most all cases.

The problem arises in “stand your ground” situations where a subjective sense of “being threatened” is used a grounds for using a weapon.

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Nojay UK  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:00:01am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

As a rule, if you are using a gun to defend yourself or your family in your own home, it is assumed to be self-defense in most all cases.

The problem arises in “stand your ground” situations where a subjective sense of “being threatened” is used a grounds for using a weapon.

I think it was Massad Ayoob who said that, even in an open-and-shut case of self-defence, the first pull of the trigger costs you ten thousand bucks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:11:11am

re: #66 Nojay UK

I think it was Massad Ayoob who said that, even in an open-and-shut case of self-defence, the first pull of the trigger costs you ten thousand bucks.

I heard it explained that if you are going to shoot someone, make sure they die in your house: then it is a clear case of self-defense and no charges are pressed. If they crawl out the window and die, then the police have to treat it as a homicide.

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Nojay UK  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:17:53am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I heard it explained that if you are going to shoot someone, make sure they die in your house: then it is a clear case of self-defense and no charges are pressed. If they crawl out the window and dies, then the police have to treat it as a homicide.

It doesn’t work that way. What if you invite “that guy who fucked you over in your promotion at work” home for a few drinks and then you had an “accident” with your gun while showing it off to him? See the Oscar Pistorious case for a worked example of “self defence gone wrong” as a murder.

Dead body with obvious violence, the police will look carefully at the situation and make a report to the prosecutor. Anyone in that position with a smoking gun and a body in front of them should lawyer up immediately, no matter how righteous they think their actions were.

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Bass Reeves  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:21:36am

re: #68 Nojay UK

Unless it’s a dead black teenager. Lawyer might be overkill in that situation.

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:23:29am

What is worse, the Federal Government forcing Apple to unlock a terrorist’s phone, or the Federal Government figuring out how to do it on their own? politico.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:23:57am

re: #68 Nojay UK

Dead body with obvious violence, the police will look carefully at the situation and make a report to the prosecutor. Anyone in that position with a smoking gun and a body in front of them should lawyer up immediately, no matter how righteous they think their actions were.

Guess that is true. Doesn’t even take a body. Remember the case of a woman who simply fired a gun in the air to scare off a threatening intruder and was charged for reckless endangerment?

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Alyosha  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:24:20am

Don’t worry, we’ll soon have all the hot takes we need.

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:24:39am

I am surprised I am not finding more info on the Belgium bombings. It is all I have heard on the radio.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:25:58am

re: #73 Kent Dorfman

I am surprised I am not finding more info on the Belgium bombings. It is all I have heard on the radio.

This is the best FB resonse I have seen so far:

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:27:25am

I give you the Flying Bum

The world’s largest aircraft has been unveiled for the first time since being fully assembled in the UK.
The 302ft (92m) long Airlander 10 - part plane, part airship - was floated in a First World War hangar in Bedfordshire.
Photographers struggled to capture the whole length of the aircraft, which is around 50ft (15m) longer than the biggest passenger jets, ahead of its inaugural flight later this year.

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:28:12am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I want me some freedumb fries!

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:29:36am

Or some Belgium waffles smothered in butter and genuine maple flavored syrup.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:30:00am

re: #75 Kent Dorfman

I give you the Flying Bum

And I can only think of this Monty Python sketch

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Dr. Matt  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:30:36am

re: #73 Kent Dorfman

I am surprised I am not finding more info on the Belgium bombings. It is all I have heard on the radio.

Don’t worry, Fox and am radio are already blaming Obama.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:31:38am

re: #79 Dr. Matt

Don’t worry, Fox and am radio are already blaming Obama.

Local owned and operated FOX affiliate in D.C. running the story every 5 minutes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:36:03am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:36:05am

I heard a snippet of Trump on local conservative radio this am as I was taking the kid to school. He was asked about white supremacist supporters. Trump: “I am the least racist candidate; you tell me about these people but I don’t know anything about it; I’m the least racist.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:36:19am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:38:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:44:12am
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Dr. Matt  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:44:14am

Here we go….

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Dr. Matt  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:46:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:46:40am

re: #86 Dr. Matt

Donald Trump Warned Brussels, Belgium - The New York Times Mocked Him For Itt]

How did the NYT mock DT over such a warning? I see a reference to the date, but not the article or the relevant quote.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:50:10am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How did the NYT mock DT over such a warning? I see a reference to the date, but not the article or the relevant quote.

And he didn’t “warn” Brussels. Trump spewed a right-wing fallacy that parts of Paris and Brussels are under Sharia Law. Conservatives once again fail at reality and logic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:51:43am

re: #89 Dr. Matt

And he didn’t “warn” Brussels. Trump spewed a right-wing fallacy that parts of Paris and Brussels are under Sharia Law. Conservatives once again fail at reality and logic.

Just as I expected. But it fits the narrative, and therefore constitutes a Higher Truth. The Trump Truth. A Beautiful Truth that just got ten feet truthier.

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Franklin  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:54:11am

re: #89 Dr. Matt

And he didn’t “warn” Brussels. Trump spewed a right-wing fallacy that parts of Paris and Brussels are under Sharia Law. Conservatives once again fail at reality and logic.

It doesn’t matter. “Trump Warned Brussels” fits on a bumper sticker and too many American’s are too fucking dumb.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:59:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:09:34am

nope…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:11:51am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nope…

sheep shit on the soles of my shoes…

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:12:08am

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Bernie stans are really cranking overtime trying to fix that outreach problem.

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I will point out at this time that during the Clinton Presidency African-American unemployment dropped to the lowest levels ever recorded.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:14:25am
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:17:15am

re: #29 Ming5000

Agree. He has built up considerable credibility and could eventually be a good help to a Democratic win in the general.
I am having trouble determining when he HAS to drop out. At this point I am not sure he COULD drop out. He is still raising money and has ardent supporters.

And Hillary is in no position to tell him he has to drop out now, since she wouldn’t in 2008. I’ll also point out that Obama won a landslide victory in ‘08, and that all the polls being taken now indicate Hillary will win a landslide victory over Trump. So I’m not going to fret that Sanders continuing in the race will somehow hurt Hillary’s chances.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:17:53am

re: #95 Big Beautiful Door

I will point out at this time that during the Clinton Presidency African-American unemployment dropped to the lowest levels ever recorded.

But why do blacks continue to vote for the party of slavery and the KKK?

The GOP just wants to get them all off the Plantation!!!

/

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:21:29am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Something like this happening in the USA would play right into DT’s hands and give him a major bump.

Which scares me massively.

Which is how England got High Chancellor Sutler. Not that I’m saying that Trump would launch a terror attack and blame jihadists in order to win the election, but it would be irresponsible not to ask the question.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:21:44am

I’m sure I’m preaching to the converted here, but the BBC has a live news feed running about the Belgium attacks.

bbc.com

A Kalashnikov was found at the airport, similar to the ones used in the Paris attacks.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:26:15am

What an awful morning in Belgium: 26 dead and many more injured. Just horrible. And Intelligence fears more attacks in the immediate future.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:27:01am

re: #57 Le Lapin Tueur

The man is a caricature. If he ends up as POTUS, our standing in the world will drop significantly from the policy he enacts. The financial plummet will be a thing to behold. I have repost this:

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Hillary has a ten point margin over Trump in the polls. He won’t win, barring a catastrophe.
realclearpolitics.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:29:03am

re: #63 Timothy Watson

thetrace.org

More rightwing grift.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:29:06am

re: #92 Dr. Matt

Funny that Conservatives/Republicans have zero problem blaming President Obama for every bad thing which happens — even in other countries over which he has no control — but refuse to give him any credit when good things happen, such as the unemployment rate going down.

Funny that.

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Kent Dorfman  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:29:39am

re: #102 Big Beautiful Door

Today.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:31:35am

re: #102 Big Beautiful Door

Hillary has a ten point margin over Trump in the polls. He won’t win, barring a catastrophe.
realclearpolitics.com

That’s better than being 10 points down, but the general election polling hasn’t really jelled yet. Most are still ‘registered voter’, and the relics of the early TPGOP circus troupe are keeping it fuzzy. The healthiest approach is to think and work as though HRC has a 2 point lead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:35:35am

BE AFRAID!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:40:05am

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

Do you all remember how beautiful and safe a place Brussels was. Not anymore, it is from a different world! U.S. must be vigilant and smart!

Trumpspeak for “xenophobic and racist”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:40:48am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Trumpspeak for “xenophobic and racist”.

Spy on your neighbors and turn them in…

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:43:14am

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spy on your dark-skinned neighbors and turn them in…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:44:36am

This blog piece from Richard North Patterson on Huffington Post today pretty much distills every problem and dysfunction of the GOP. I highly recommend:

huffingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:44:39am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Spy on your dark-skinned neighbors with funny names and turn them in…

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:45:45am

re: #106 Decatur Deb

That’s better than being 10 points down, but the general election polling hasn’t really jelled yet. Most are still ‘registered voter’, and the relics of the early TPGOP circus troupe are keeping it fuzzy. The healthiest approach is to think and work as though HRC has a 2 point lead.

Of course. I assume Hillary knows, after going from inevitable to loser in 2008, that she has to work hard and take nothing for granted, which is why I am confident she will defeat Trump. Trump isn’t a great politician; he is just exploiting the GOP’s vulnerabilities which render it incapable of taking him down: the GOP’s lack of diversity, its toxic political messaging and its unpopular policy stances. Democrats don’t have the same vulnerabilities, so she will be able to effectively attack Trump’s racism and misogyny and his terrible tax and health care reform plans.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:46:32am

re: #89 Dr. Matt

Trump warned Brussels? Uh. Our Intel agencies warned Bush.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:47:27am

re: #35 Ming5000

I also wish Bernie would drop out.
I feel HRC would make a much better President.
I do not think Bernie is on a trajectory to win. It is over for him.
I do not think HRC should be driven to the left. A leftist Presidential candidate could lose this cycle. As leftists candidates have done before.

This isn’t a game we play every four years. This is shiv politics. (edit: cribbed from Alyosha) We have to win the Presidency.
Berniacs can start working to change the mind of their teabagger neighbors and we will talk in two years.

Clinton stayed in the race until June. We have president Obama for two terms. Sanders staying in the race is not going to end the presidency.

As for Sanders supporters, Joe Internet is not the same as Killer Mike. I do hold Sanders accountable for Killer Mike; I do not hold him accountable for Daily Kos diarists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:49:16am
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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:50:09am

Just getting my head wrapped around the news of this Brussels attack.

I don’t know what to think other than this is going to really mess with this year’s elections.

I had the Today show on and of course they had to have Trump on by phone. You can imagine how that went. He went on about how nice Brussels used to be but now because of all these refugees it now is a mess. Like France, like Germany. And he warned everyone! He is the only guy in the elections talking about this and that is why he is leading in all the polls.

And then Matt and Savannah had to go there and ask him what he would do and how he would handle the guy that Belgium arrested last week. Well of course he would do everything he can do. Does that mean you’d do anything? Yes, waterboarding and everything else we can do…we have to get info out of these guys. And of course no more refugees unless they have all their papers and records that we can verify.

Ugh. And then they said they asked Secretary Clinton to be on, but she refused. Well now how does that look America? Trump talks tough…Hillary silent.

I swear the big TV networks want Trump.

Damn this world. We are going to get into a world wide conflict yet. TV would love it, just think of all the coverage and ratings.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:50:37am

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Morning shows letting Trump call in in midst of terror attack is um, questionable, decision.

Questionable journalism but ratings gold.

Any question on where their priorities lie?

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:52:13am

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

Trump warned Brussels? Uh. Our Intel agencies warned Bush.

Yeah, but had they warned Trump he would have saved NYC! He would have waterboarded the entire Middle East!

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:54:31am

re: #89 Dr. Matt

And he didn’t “warn” Brussels. Trump spewed a right-wing fallacy that parts of Paris and Brussels are under Sharia Law. Conservatives once again fail at reality and logic.

Something bad’s going to happen somewhere. - Me

*Woman slips on soap*

See! What did I tell you?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:55:36am

re: #120 Belafon

Something bad’s going to happen somewhere. - Me

*Woman slips on soap*

See! What did I tell you?

You have my vote!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:58:15am

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

Trump warned Brussels? Uh. Our Intel agencies warned Bush.

I guess it isn’t worth the trouble to point out that Belgium has accepted hardly any refugees?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:58:48am

got that right…

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:59:23am

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BE AFRAID!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was beautiful? Brussels is still beautiful. Just like Paris is still beautiful even though it was rocked by terror attacks. NYC is still beautiful despite the 9/11 attacks.

Belgium also happens to be home to NATO and EU. Just yesterday Trump wanted to reevaluate US participation in NATO. He’s also droning on about how he’d shut the borders. Never mind that as with the Paris attacks, the odds are that the terrorists involved were domestic - closing borders would not have prevented attack.

In fact, Trump also continues to say he’d limit entry in to the US from the Middle East. He’s also on the record saying he’d prevent Muslims, including Muslim Americans from entering the US.

The media gives him a pass on those earlier statements. Again.

Sad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:59:33am

re: #122 Timothy Watson

I guess it isn’t worth the trouble to point out that Belgium has accept hardly any refugees?

No.

Point is we have to carpet bomb everything from Oran to Tehran to be rid of this threat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:59:33am

re: #122 Timothy Watson

I guess it isn’t worth the trouble to point out that Belgium has accept hardly any refugees?

And that the people responsible for these bombings have not been refugees.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:59:40am

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

This blog piece from Richard North Patterson on Huffington Post today pretty much distills every problem and dysfunction of the GOP. I highly recommend:

huffingtonpost.com

Damn. That’s good!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:59:57am
Belgium was committed to resettling 300 Syrian and Congolese refugees in 2015.

In 2015, Belgium agreed to resettle 300 refugees on its territory: 225 Syrian refugees in Lebanon and 75 Congolese refugees in Burundi. Most of them arrived in Belgium between October 2015 and January 2016. 14 Syrian refugees have yet to make the journey from Lebanon.

resettlement.be

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:00:05am

re: #122 Timothy Watson

I guess it isn’t worth the trouble to point out that Belgium has accept hardly any refugees?

You could, but no-one would listen.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:00:53am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

No.

Point is we have to carpet bomb everything from Oran to Tehran to be rid of this threat.

/

Don’t forget Qurac!

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Franklin  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:00:54am

re: #129 Big Beautiful Door

You could, but no-one would listen.

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!!!

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:02:55am

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

This blog piece from Richard North Patterson on Huffington Post today pretty much distills every problem and dysfunction of the GOP. I highly recommend:

huffingtonpost.com

I especially like this:

But to compare the two parties at this time in our history is to indulge in false equivalency. For rationalizing the GOP’s pathology by responding with a partisan tit-for-tat is not adequate to the circumstances. The sins you perceive in Democrats are the usual ones — misguided policies, ill chosen means for dubious ends, and the normal complement of rhetorical dishonesty and political squalor. However mistaken you may find Clinton and Sanders on the issues, their debate is addressed to the world as it exists and therefore open to a sensible critique. The squalor to which the GOP has sunk, an alternate reality rooted in anger and mendacity, transcends mere differences in policy, threatening the country with profound, perhaps irreparable, damage.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:05:05am

Yesterday’s semi-coordinated demonstrations in support of a USSC nomination included a small southern town.

One of the banners bore a strange device:

dothaneagle.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:06:28am

All this attention given to the Brussels attacks, and media allowing Trump to phone in his opinion. Uh. Was there a similar reaction to the attacks in Istanbul and Ankara recently? Of course not. smh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:08:01am

re: #134 GlutenFreeJesus

All this attention given to the Brussels attacks, and media allowing Trump to phone in his opinion. Uh. Was there a similar reaction to the attacks in Istanbul and Ankara recently? Of course not. smh

Not the right sort of people impacted in Istanbul and Ankara…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:09:24am
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Great White Snark  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:09:34am

Well it’s gonna be a little weird on the Red Line and for all of us metro commuters, anywhere in the west. I said it before, but if Obama wants to dial up getting after these guys it’s fine with me. Foxtrot Alpha has a story about a US Marine killed near Mosul. In combat. Apparently we have a previously undisclosed firebase operating there, in support of the Mosul offensive to take it back from ISIS.

Note to Donald- The win here is take the battle to them, and keep our immigration and refugee policies the same in deliberate defiance.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:09:37am

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly.

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Franklin  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:10:44am

re: #132 Belafon

Holy hell this <underline>is</underline> a great article:

Long since, the GOP killed its moderates and trashed everything they stood for. It has replaced respected figures like William Cohen, Richard Lugar and John Danforth with rigid ideologues like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee, and social illiterates like James Inhofe, Jeff Sessions and Richard Shelby. On issue after issue, they have embraced an orthodoxy rooted in extremism and divorced from fact. These dynamics forced Mitt Romney to win the nomination by running so far right that he could never get back. And what was the lesson learned among the party base? That Romney was not nearly extreme enough.

huffingtonpost.com

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:11:39am

Of course, the US called on our NATO allies after 9/11 to help track down and go after the terror group responsible. Now, when Belgium is attacked, Trump’s followers are like - screw this. Dump our relationship. End our involvement.

The funhouse mirror worldview of Trump and his supporters is dangerous - not only to us, but to our allies. How can you trust him to keep his word when he’s more than willing to pull this kind of nonsense.

And Trump’s foreign policy “team” is filled with “experts” who have proven to be wrong time and time again (though Cruz has the same exact problem), and whose extremist views are out of line with most Americans.

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Jay C  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:12:27am

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

This blog piece from Richard North Patterson on Huffington Post today pretty much distills every problem and dysfunction of the GOP. I highly recommend:

huffingtonpost.com

Good stuff: harsh, but accurate AFAICT. Though I’m guessing that Its message is likely to be wasted: I’m thinking that the sort of Republicans who are Patterson’s friends probably agree with him already, while the jump-for-Trump crowd are, as he points out, “epistemically closed”, and likely to just dismiss his analysis as just so much left wing BS.

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Franklin  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:14:13am

re: #141 Jay C

You are right, probably won’t get traction. But there are many many Republicans that will agree with most of this. They aren’t going to start voting D but this may cause a few to self-reflect and start voting for more moderate folks, which will in turn allow for more moderate candidates.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:14:20am

re: #137 Great White Snark

Well it’s gonna be a little weird on the Red Line and for all of us metro commuters, anywhere in the west. I said it before, but if Obama wants to dial up getting after these guys it’s fine with me. Foxtrot Alpha has a story about a US Marine killed near Mosul. In combat. Apparently we have a previously undisclosed firebase operating there, in support of the Mosul offensive to take it back from ISIS.

Note to Donald- The win here is take the battle to them, and keep our immigration and refugee policies the same in deliberate defiance.

How dare the DoD not publish the coordinates!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:17:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:21:43am
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Great White Snark  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:23:13am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:23:35am

I honestly cannot recall if I’ve read any of Richard North Patterson’s books. Maybe Balance of Power, but I’m not sure. Anybody here read him?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:27:05am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I honestly cannot recall if I’ve read any of Richard North Patterson’s books. Maybe Balance of Power, but I’m not sure. Anybody here read him?

Nope. I often see his books in the “take a book, leave a book” shelf in the post center of our condo community. I’ve never taken one. Maybe I will.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:28:32am

FUCK NATO!!1!!

OKLAHOMA CITY, Oklahoma (CNN) — Five NATO planes have arrived at Tinker Air Force Base in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, officials said Friday, the first-ever deployment of non-U.S. aircraft for military missions in American airspace.

The airborne warning and control system aircraft, or AWACS, will supplement similar U.S. aircraft patrolling the skies over the United States, officials at NATO headquarters in Belgium and at Tinker told CNN.

Most of the United States’ 30 AWACS, based at Tinker, have been flying around-the-clock surveillance of U.S. airspace, especially over New York and Washington, since the September 11 terrorist attacks. The planes’ crews watch for suspicious aircraft and provide coordination for the roughly 100 fighter jets, out of 25 bases, also protecting U.S. airspace.

Washington asked NATO for assistance because some American AWACS have been dispatched to the Afghanistan region, where the United States is currently undertaking military operations against the ruling Taliban. “Our AWACS fleet was never intended to fly continuous coverage over our [own] territory,” said an officer with NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command.

edition.cnn.com

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:30:06am

I was fixing up some breakfast and came back to the TV and the Today Show had Hillary on. I did catch her saying something about waterboarding and other ‘enhanced techniques’ do not work, anyone in the military will tell you that and if anything makes these attacks more likely. They talked a bit about the Apple IPhone thing and she said that is something that is going to have to be discussed and considered where law enforcement and the manufacturers are going to have to work out a way to deal with that.

At least it is good that she had a chance to come on the show and give a bit of a counter view to Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:30:20am

re: #147 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I honestly cannot recall if I’ve read any of Richard North Patterson’s books. Maybe Balance of Power, but I’m not sure. Anybody here read him?

I’ve enjoyed his books, especially the courtroom and detective novels.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:30:28am

re: #140 lawhawk

Just the other day, Trump was saying we should leave NATO. Today, a NATO ally was attacked. Coincidence?

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

/

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Nojay UK  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:30:29am

re: #140 lawhawk

Of course, the US called on our NATO allies after 9/11 to help track down and go after the terror group responsible. Now, when Belgium is attacked, Trump’s followers are like - screw this. Dump our relationship. End our involvement.

NATO is STILL in Afghanistan, fighting… somebody, anybody, fifteen years after the 9/11 attacks on US soil by a bunch of dysfunctional young Saudi idiot followers of a theocratic Wahabbi Sunni nutter. If NATO is disbanded does that mean all those military forces there get to go home?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:31:37am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve enjoyed his books, especially the courtroom and detective novels.

Any recos?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:32:20am

So, wait, you’re saying that the little snippet I saw on Twitter about Bill Clinton calling Obama’s legacy “awful” was a RWNJ cut and paste deal?

Gosh, you just can’t believe anything on the Internet anymore.

////

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:32:39am

re: #140 lawhawk

Of course, the US called on our NATO allies after 9/11 to help track down and go after the terror group responsible. Now, when Belgium is attacked, Trump’s followers are like - screw this. Dump our relationship. End our involvement.

The funhouse mirror worldview of Trump and his supporters is dangerous - not only to us, but to our allies. How can you trust him to keep his word when he’s more than willing to pull this kind of nonsense.

And Trump’s foreign policy “team” is filled with “experts” who have proven to be wrong time and time again (though Cruz has the same exact problem), and whose extremist views are out of line with most Americans.

They are never wrong. The world just selfishly refuses to conform to their expectations.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:34:40am

I think that NATO should have disbanded after the Warsaw Pact was dissolved and been replaced with a European security association that was simply affiliated with the US. Instead, NATO expanded right up to the Russian border and convinced them that it was the West that wanted to continue the Cold War.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:36:43am

re: #154 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Any recos?

Degree of Guilt

I’ve just read the blurb for Protect and Defend:

On a cold day in January President Kerry Kilcannon takes the oath of office- and within days makes his first, most important move: appointing a new Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Kilcannon’s choice is a female judge with a brilliant record. And a secret.

While the Senate spars over Caroline Masters’ nomination, an inflammatory abortion rights case is making its way toward the judge-and will explode into the headlines. Suddenly, the most divisive issue in America turns the President’s nomination into all-out war. And from Judge Masters to a conservative, war-hero senator facing a crisis of conscience and a fifteen-year-old girl battling for her future, no one will be safe. Protect and Defend takes us on a riveting journey between what is legal, what is right… and the price of finally knowing the difference.

I’ll have to check my library to see if they have a copy.

richardnorthpattersonbooks.com

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:37:34am

Nvidia usually releases their new GPUs around May right?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:38:54am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

Degree of Guilt

I’ve just read the blurb for Protect and Defend:

I’ll have to check my library to see if they have a copy.

richardnorthpattersonbooks.com

Thanks, though it’s probably going to be 4th in line on my current reading list. Or lower. I need to check my Kindle library to see which books still need to be read. ;-)

161
lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:39:39am
162
lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:41:46am

Just the beginning? Really? What was Paris? What was the 9/11 attacks? What was the WTC bombing?

Just the beginning?

Being a delusional ahistorical know-nothing is no way to go through life, but it certainly is enough to become the presumptive GOP nominee for the White House.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:43:25am

re: #161 lawhawk

Obummer is sunning himself on the Havanna beach with his commie buddy on his apology tour while all of Europe is under attack from radical terrorists!!!1111

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:44:51am

re: #162 lawhawk

Just the beginning? Really? What was Paris? What was the 9/11 attacks? What was the WTC bombing?

Just the beginning?

Being a delusional ahistorical know-nothing is no way to go through life, but it certainly is enough to become the presumptive GOP nominee for the White House.

JUST THE BEGINNING OF MY ELECTION AS PRESIDENT!!!!!1

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:45:17am
166
Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:45:49am

re: #161 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

HOW DARE OBAMA NOT FORESEE THE ATTACK AND DO A HALO JUMP INTO BRUSSELS TO STOP IT?!!??!?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:46:17am
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:47:24am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is Obauma politicizing the Brussels attacks already??!?!?

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Franklin  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:48:10am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:49:35am

re: #168 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Why is Obauma politicizing the Brussels attacks already??!?!?

That’s Obummer or Obozo. Get your slurs straight! /

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:50:47am

Of course, ISIL will seek to claim responsibility/credit for the attack, whether they actually carried it out or not. It’s the same reason AQ would claim responsibility for attacks - it maintains their visibility and viability, plus acts as recruitment tool even though it directs more attention their way from military forces.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:50:56am

re: #170 MsJ

That’s Obummer or Obozo. Get your slurs straight! /

Barry Soetoro
/

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A Mom Anon  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:53:17am

Sigh. The “new” meme going around the pet wingnuts this morning is a picture of the traffic jam in Arizona (?) because of the protesters with calls to be allowed to run them over with cars or physically remove them personally. Because protesting is criminal. Except when they do it.

I have been remarkably patient with these people, but it’s running thin.

Also, my wingnut’s neighbor’s mom is back in the hospital because her cancer has worsened. The same person who thinks turmeric and “acidifying the blood” will also cure what ails you. I have been beyond patient with this crap, but now she’s trying to scare her pregnant and due any day daughter into not vaccinating her baby. I seriously hope her mom didn’t try any of this quackery and is now out of remission because of it.

And re: Brussels, this is not only horrific, it’s going to keep the cycle of hatred going. Goody, just what the world needs. Sigh. How in the hell does the world deal with this shit without making things worse?

I really need to find an “asshole free zone” . Maybe on Mars?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:53:26am

Trump actually wants these attacks.

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:53:33am

re: #162 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Just the beginning? Really? What was Paris? What was the 9/11 attacks? What was the WTC bombing?

Just the beginning?

Being a delusional ahistorical know-nothing is no way to go through life, but it certainly is enough to become the presumptive GOP nominee for the White House.

Just more of the Trump campaign. He’s using all the old con tricks. Play on fear. Play on age old hatred. Play on others taking your job and money. Tell them you are great and can change it all without one little detail of how.

Come to think of it, has he said anything that is positive? Well, other than he is great and will make everyone great (by being hateful and negative).

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:54:07am

Almost forgot there’s an election today, in Utah and Arizona.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:54:55am

Ted Cruz with his Magic Words:

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:56:41am

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

.@tedcruz: “Today’s attacks in Brussels underscore that this is a war…this is a war w/ radical Islamic terrorism.” pic.twitter.com
— Fox News

Awesome. Let’s start dropping bombs immediately. Where? On the radical Islamicists, that’s where.

///

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:57:24am

VOMIT

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:57:44am

re: #177 The Vicious Babushka

Ted Cruz with his Magic Words:

Cruz: We need to use full force and fury against ISIS.

Oh, OK.

/

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:58:47am

re: #180 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Cruz: We need to use full force and fury against ISIS.

Oh, OK.

/

BUT NO AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE FOR THAT COWARD OBAMA!!1!

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:59:42am

Never mind that this happened a day before, and that Obama wasn’t actively wanting to engage in that gesture. Oh, it was awkward, but moreso for Castro than Obama.

Delusional wingnuts are delusional.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:00:15am

Baby Whiplash, clueless as usual==>

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:00:43am

re: #180 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:03:37am

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, clueless as usual==>

You mean like Judaism, Ben?

The day Ben realizes he’s never going to be part of that group, it’ll probably be too late for any of us.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:03:42am

re: #183 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, clueless as usual==>

[Embedded content]

When did Shaprio become a WASP? Does that mean I don’t have to listen to him lecture people about who the real Jews are?

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:04:03am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:04:17am

While Trump and Cruz tweet fear and doom from their cozy homes, Brussels is carrying on and keeping calm.

Translation:
Train service at Brussels Midi and Brussels North will resume at 4 pm. Brussels Central remains closed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:04:52am
190
lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:04:52am

NYPD/PAPD/MNRR/LIRR have deployed their Hercules/SWAT teams to transit hubs:

Didn’t see much more than the usual security in Hoboken though.

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:05:41am

re: #178 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Awesome. Let’s start dropping bombs immediately. Where? On the radical Islamicists, that’s where.

///

Haven’t you seen the maps? There are well defined fronts of the Radical Islam Army. You can clearly see them advancing on Europe.

I don’t know why we don’t have a Western Army over there right now in Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Georgia digging trenches and putting in Trump walls right now. We should also have all the Navies over there mining the Black and Mediterranean Seas.

Come on people…we need to fortify. Did we not learn anything from the first two world wars?

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:07:00am
193
CuriousLurker  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:07:12am

I’m gonna try to stay away from the internet as much as possible today. Not in the mood for another shit-storm of scare mongering, belligerent grandstanding, and bigoted scapegoating.

Perspective: There have been 60 terrorist attacks so far in March alone. ALL of them were horrible. The vast majority involved the innocents being injured or killed. How many? I don’t know—I gave up trying to count the dead after the first 200.

Anyway, look out for the inevitable trolls and don’t feed them.

Later, lizards.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:07:32am

re: #191 ObserverArt

Haven’t you seen the maps? There are well defined fronts of the Radical Islam Army. You can clearly see them advancing on Europe.

I don’t know why we don’t have a Western Army over there right now in Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Georgia digging trenches and putting in Trump walls right now. We should also have all the Navies over there mining the Black and Mediterranean Seas.

Come on people…we need to fortify. Did we not learn anything from the first two world wars?

Well, if you believe geopolitics is as easy as playing Risk, then let’s get with it!

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Jenner7  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:07:51am

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

I didn’t realize he was the President of Belgium.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:08:39am
197
GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:08:41am

re: #179 The Vicious Babushka

To be fair. It does look like Trump has been sitting in koshering salt for months.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:09:31am

re: #197 GlutenFreeJesus

To be fair. It does look like Trump has been sitting I. koshering salt for months.

I bet he eats pickles with a knife and fork.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:10:55am

on Fox, of course…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:11:20am

re: #194 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Ukraine is game to you!?

202
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:13:24am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump: ‘I wonder if they’re setting up a little area in Cuba for the Muslim population’ t.co pic.twitter.com
— Raw Story

LOLwhut?

203
b.d.  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:14:13am

The Radical Islamist Terrorists TM never would have tried this under Leopold II….Trump 2016!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:14:51am

re: #193 CuriousLurker

I’m gonna try to stay away from the internet as much as possible today. Not in the mood for another shit-storm of scare mongering, belligerent grandstanding, and bigoted scapegoating.

Perspective: There have been 60 terrorist attacks so far in March alone. ALL of them were horrible. The vast majority involved the innocents being injured or killed. How many? I don’t know—I gave up trying to count the dead after the first 200.

Anyway, look out for the inevitable trolls and don’t feed them.

Later, lizards.

Last night I tweeted you some pictures of beautiful calligraphy that I thought you would like, did you see it?

205
GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:14:59am

re: #180 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Then the republicans can give the president the authority. AUMF and all.

206
The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:17:31am

Last week Baby Whiplash was all NO NO NEVER TRUMP NEVER EVER and today he’s like==>

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Jenner7  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:17:41am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:19:00am

re: #159 Timothy Watson

Nvidia usually releases their new GPUs around May right?

Get straight to the really important question on our mind.

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:19:07am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Raw Story ‎@RawStory

Trump: ‘I wonder if they’re setting up a little area in Cuba for the Muslim population’ ow.ly

9:44 AM - 22 Mar 2016

on Fox, of course…

That’s Trump basically saying Obama is working with commies in Cuba to set up places for Syrian refugees. Probably turning Guantanamo Bay over to ISIS…blah…blah…blah.

What a disgusting piece of human dirt.

210
Lidane  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:20:19am
211
Jenner7  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:20:39am

Anyone have a screenshot of the tweet he deleted?

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Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:21:00am

re: #166 Timothy Watson

HOW DARE OBAMA NOT FORESEE THE ATTACK AND DO A HALO JUMP INTO BRUSSELS TO STOP IT?!!??!?!

And, this is why we need a new and faster and more polygony Nvidia GPU… sorry.

213
Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:22:24am

re: #208 Le Lapin Tueur

Get straight to the really important question on our mind.

I needed a break from wingnut derp.

214
Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:24:24am

re: #205 GlutenFreeJesus

Then the republicans can give the president the authority. AUMF and all.

In an election year? No, let’s wait till after the election and give voters a choice.

///

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:26:15am

re: #212 Le Lapin Tueur

And, this is why we need a new and faster and more polygony Nvidia GPU… sorry.

The world is still spinning is it not? Lives still need to go on. People are still at work and doing other daily things…maybe it is important. Maybe something like a new graphics card helps take a mind off the tragedy for a moment. Is there any harm in it?

216
Le Lapin Tueur  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:26:58am

re: #213 Timothy Watson

I needed a break from wingnut derp.

Understand, I wasn’t being snarky (for once) games are a great break from the derpitude.

217
Sionainn  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:29:33am

re: #11 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

OT, but I need to leave to go teach soon. I’ve posted about my former student was in a serious car-bus crash in Vegas several days ago. She’s doing much better, as this photo shows. Ashlee was up and walking around the hospital.

[Embedded image]

She’s got grit, I tell you. I’m not sure I’d be up and around after losing an arm.

Oh, no! I didn’t realize anyone here knew anyone on the bus. That was a horrific accident.

218
Kent Dorfman  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:29:56am

re: #210 Lidane

219
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:31:14am

re: #211 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Anyone have a screenshot of the tweet he deleted?

It was about how Brussels used to be beautiful and safe, but had a typo in it. He fixed the typo and then tweeted it again.

news.yahoo.com

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:31:51am

Hurr durr. Fox cuts away from President Obama, who was going to speak about Cuba and the Brussels attacks, because they’re Fox.

SMOTI strikes again.

Of course, GOP devotees get their news from Fox, so disinformation works. That’s what they do.

221
lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:32:17am

re: #218 Kent Dorfman

222
KerFuFFler  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:33:12am

Something to think about:

Estimated number of deaths in Paris and Brussels attacks combined: 158
Estimated number of deaths due to gun violence in the United States so far in 2016: 2,788.

(I would provide a link but my computer keeps crashing when I try. So I’ll just tell you I read this this morning at Lawyers, Guns and Money.)

223
Jenner7  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:33:47am

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

What a douche bag.

224
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:33:57am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:35:57am

re: #217 Sionainn

Oh, no! I didn’t realize anyone here knew anyone on the bus. That was a horrific accident.

Ashlee and her family were in Vegas for her wedding. Her dad, fiance and 1-year-old daughter were in the bus, too, but their injuries were minor. She got the worst injuries of all of the passengers.

There’s a GoFundMe set up for her medical expenses. gofundme.com

The drunk driver that hit the bus carried no insurance.

226
Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:38:14am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m curious what political correctness she is talking about.

227
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:39:15am

re: #226 Belafon

I’m curious what political correctness she is talking about.

Letting different kinds of people — you know, *those* kind — into your lily white Christian country, I’m sure.

228
Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:39:27am

re: #226 Belafon

I’m curious what political correctness she is talking about.

Not torturing every one from the Middle East is “political correctness” in her book.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:39:58am

re: #227 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Letting different kinds of people — you know, *those* kind — into your lily white Christian country, I’m sure.

Unless she’s adopting them, in which case they’re fine.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:41:34am

Baby Whiplash, delete your account.

231
Lidane  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:42:47am
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Franklin  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:43:15am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, delete your account.

[Embedded content]

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:43:47am

re: #231 Lidane

[Embedded content]

That crafty socialist bastard. He really does hate America and democracy.

//////////////////////

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Great White Snark  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:44:30am

re: #190 lawhawk

NYPD/PAPD/MNRR/LIRR have deployed their Hercules/SWAT teams to transit hubs:

[Embedded content]

Didn’t see much more than the usual security in Hoboken though.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:44:58am

re: #230 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash, delete your account.

[Embedded content]

Someone needs to introduce that obnoxious image plugin there to PNG files.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:46:23am

re: #234 Great White Snark

Security theater. As long as the TV stations get some footage during a stand-up segment every one is safer, don’t you know?

///

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:47:26am

re: #226 Belafon

I’m curious what political correctness she is talking about.

The story is that neighbors saw the San Bernardino attackers get packages in the mail and didn’t report it because they were afraid of being labeled bigots.

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lawhawk  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:50:51am

re: #234 Great White Snark

Some of this is security theater - making people think that they’re safe because security is more visible, but the reality is that there are far more targets than there are security forces - you can protect every subway station (NYC has a 240+), but they could target a museum (and NYC has dozens). You could deploy forces to every park, but they could hit a department store. Or school.

You get the idea - every city has countless soft targets.

That’s who terrorists target.

The outcome is to evoke a disproportionate response, which furthers their agenda in the world - whether it’s to gain further recruits in the Middle East or elsewhere, to show that they’re still relevant and can carry out attacks, etc.

Security forces will do their thing here, we’ll go on with our lives. Brussels will get our assistance and support, and they’ll get on with their lives and bury their dead. And security forces from Belgium, along with other NATO partners including the US, will go after those responsible as they’ve been doing all along.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:53:20am

re: #193 CuriousLurker

If you lived close to me I’d invite you over for coffee and we could go plant shopping or something. Instead I’ll be taking The Kid to work and then coming back and cleaning outdoor furniture, listening to hair metal (lol) on my phone until it’s time to come in and make dinner. I cannot bear much more and it’s barely 11 AM here.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 22, 2016 • 7:59:50am

re: #204 The Vicious Babushka

Last night I tweeted you some pictures of beautiful calligraphy that I thought you would like, did you see it?

Yes, I did they were gorgeous—thank you. I dinged it with a like in the hopes that you’d see the acknowledgement.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 22, 2016 • 8:00:38am

re: #239 A Mom Anon

Thanks for the good thoughts. {{{AMA}}}

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Archangelus  Mar 22, 2016 • 8:10:56am

Rob Ford, former mayor of Toronto, announced dead at 46.

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2016 • 9:17:04am

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

This blog piece from Richard North Patterson on Huffington Post today pretty much distills every problem and dysfunction of the GOP. I highly recommend:

huffingtonpost.com

Thanks for the heads up. He is one of my favorite fiction writers. His trilogy about a president even covers some of the hot button issues of today—guns and the Supreme Court (I love that his fictional name for the NRA is SSA—Sons of the Second Amendment)

No Safe Place
Protect and Defend
Balance of Power

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Shimshon  Mar 22, 2016 • 9:59:46pm

I get stalked into other topics and harassed for daring to downvote someone I disagree with on here, but I have dozens of downvotes because people clearly misunderstood what I said and took everything out of context. Gotta love the double standards at work. I was hoping this site was better than reddit but it turns out it is just the same type of downvoting hivemind and outrage machine.

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SirMixALot  Mar 23, 2016 • 2:02:15am

The fact that Bernie Sanders’s campaign used that 24 second right wing hit piece against Obama and Clinton tells you all you need to know about the people running Sanders’s campaign and the man himself. If your willing to adopt right wing talking points to attack your opponent you have absolutely no integrity what’s so ever. If proves yet again what horrible strategists they are. You don’t burn down the Democratic Party, attack the parties leadership and still expect to get the parties nomination.


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