Video: Terrorism Expert Says Trump’s Reckless Rhetoric Harms Counter-Terrorism Efforts

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Malcolm Nance, a veteran of Navy intelligence and current head of the Terrorism Asymmetrics Project, reacts to Donald Trump’s irresponsible language and his repeated calls for torturing terror suspects.

(h/t: Mother Jones.)

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315 comments

1
Lidane  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:09:13pm

Even Michael Chertoff was reduced to pointing out that Trumpy is unserious about terror:

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:10:39pm
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Great White Snark  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:14:39pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:16:40pm

“If they care about our armed forces, if they care about their fellow Americans…”

Is there any evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump cares about anything except for himself?

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:18:21pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

“If they care about our armed forces, if they care about their fellow Americans…”

Is there any evidence whatsoever that Donald Trump cares about anything except for himself?

I’m sure Trump cares about his money. Other than that, I can’t think of anything.

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teleskiguy  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:18:45pm

The Donald™ is a threat to world peace. Whodathunkit.

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:20:41pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

The Donald™ is a threat to world peace. Whodathunkit.

The US Republican party is a threat to world peace. Trump is just the present-day worst of the bunch.

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piratedan  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:20:46pm

hey now, let’s not politicize this tragedy just to make the President look bad, because that’s what we learned after 9/11, right?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:21:22pm

re: #3 Great White Snark

As I posted downstairs,

So according to Kasich-Cruz and the other couch-fainters, the POTUS should immediately drop whatever he or she is doing, no matter what or where, and run back to Washington whenever there’s a terrorist attack anywhere in the world?

Sounds like a bad precedent.

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Nyet  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:21:50pm

re: #7 EPR-radar

The US Republican party is a threat to world peace. Trump is just the present-day worst of the bunch.

He and Cruz.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:22:28pm

re: #9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

As I posted downstairs,

So according to Kasich-Cruz and the other couch-fainters, the POTUS should immediately drop whatever he or she is doing, no matter what or where, and run back to Washington whenever there’s a terrorist attack anywhere in the world?

Sounds like a bad precedent.

Only if white people are the victims./

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:23:54pm

Don’t worry, folks. All of this gnashing of teeth and wailing will be over the day after the November election. Unless Clinton or Sanders win, then it will lead immediately into impeachment.

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nines09  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:26:26pm

Trump and Cruz have no qualms standing on dead bodies to promote their hatred. Their words and deeds help Daesh. Joe Chump can buy all the weapons in the world and yet he is afraid. That is the goal. Fuck the GOP.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:26:27pm

I just read that Palin is going to be a judge for a court TV reality show. So what if she’s not a judge or a lawyer, or has never taken a single course about the law!

She’s very judgmental and hey, that’s got to count for something, right? //

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Nyet  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:27:26pm

re: #12 Belafon

Don’t worry, folks. All of this gnashing of teeth and wailing will be over the day after the November election. Unless Clinton or Sanders win, then it will lead immediately into impeachment.

Something tells me you won’t want Trump’s VP as President.

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:30:43pm

re: #9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

As I posted downstairs,

So according to Kasich-Cruz and the other couch-fainters, the POTUS should immediately drop whatever he or she is doing, no matter what or where, and run back to Washington whenever there’s a terrorist attack anywhere in the world?

Sounds like a bad precedent.

That’s not the correct way to look at it. In Republican-land, the first rule is that whatever President Obama does is evil, stupid, wrong and un-American.

So “drop it all and run back to DC like a terrified toddler” only became the Republican party line the instant it became clear that Obama would not do that.

Had Obama cut short the Cuba trip instead, the GOP and RWNJs would be going on about the importance of the president sticking to plans and not letting terrorists dictate his actions.

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CuriousLurker  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:31:24pm

I’m not gonna stay for what are probably obvious reasons, but if anyone needs facts to combat the derp (yeah, prolly useless, but still) the Institute of Economics and Peace’s 2015 Global Terrorism Index (published November 2015) has lots of good data. Most of it is from 2014, but things haven’t changed that much really (well, except it’s gotten a lot worse for people living in the countries where these asshole operate).

There’s an overview of the report’s key findings here with charts & maps—like this and this—and below is the PDF of the full 111-page report. I think I’ve posted it here before, but it doesn’t hurt to do it again.

Later, lizards.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:31:27pm

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

No sarcasm tag even needed.

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nines09  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:33:46pm

re: #14 KerFuFFler

Clueless

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:33:54pm

re: #14 KerFuFFler

I just read that Palin is going to be a judge for a court TV reality show. So what if she’s not a judge or a lawyer, or has never taken a single course about the law!

She’s very judgmental and hey, that’s got to count for something, right? //

She’s preparing to be Trump’s SCOTUS nominee.

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wrenchwench  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:34:04pm

re: #17 CuriousLurker

{{{CL}}}

Have a nice day in any way you can.

Thanks for real info.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:36:04pm

I can’t wait to see how the wingnuts spin this==>

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makeitstop  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:38:45pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t wait to see how the wingnuts spin this==>

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Five bucks says they’ll find a reason why this show of support is the Worst Idea Ever.

Call it a hunch.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:39:09pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

I can’t wait to see how the wingnuts spin this==>

Not good enough, of course.

/

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gocart mozart  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:39:13pm
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FlowerPower  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:39:14pm

re: #14 KerFuFFler

I just read that Palin is going to be a judge for a court TV reality show. So what if she’s not a judge or a lawyer, or has never taken a single course about the law!

She’s very judgmental and hey, that’s got to count for something, right? //

If you’re going to agree to have her “judge” your case, you may as well just agree to a coin flip. I doubt there’s going to be actual logic to her “rulings”.

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S'latch  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:41:12pm

It’s 2017 … “Breaking News: Terrorist Attack on the US … President Trump to Address the Nation Next.”

That would be a total nightmare.

I hope the thought of it will get folks to the polls this year.

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KGxvi  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:41:47pm

re: #14 KerFuFFler

I just read that Palin is going to be a judge for a court TV reality show. So what if she’s not a judge or a lawyer, or has never taken a single course about the law!

She’s very judgmental and hey, that’s got to count for something, right? //

Don’t the producers of those shows usually pay any award anyway? It’s not like real arbitration (I would probably have a stroke if I saw that Sarah Palin was going to arbitrate one of my cases)

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gocart mozart  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:42:57pm

re: #25 gocart mozart

I expect to be audited by President Trump’s IRS.

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teleskiguy  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:44:09pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:47:45pm

re: #28 KGxvi

It is binding arbitration, and yes, the show pays any judgement awarded (plus a small appearance fee for each litigant.)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:48:23pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

Are there even any abortion clinics in Alabama?

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451_Montag  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:51:56pm

re: #25 gocart mozart

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Can we stop with this Trump has small hands business? He has perfectly normal, possibly even slightly larger than normal hands.

It is his fingers that are stumpy, and disproportionately small to the rest of the population.

Even these freakishly small digits are a bonus when doing the 5 fingered knuckle shuffle as they give the illusion of eeerm… Manliness

\ if needed

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:52:35pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

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Abortion clinics: More dangerous than sex offenders.

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KGxvi  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:53:38pm

re: #33 451_Montag

Can we stop with this Trump has small hands business?

No. Next Question.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:55:20pm

“Totally winning?” Some murderous morons manage to sneak a bomb into a train station and blow it up, and that means they’re winning?

What kind of idiot believes stupid rhetoric like this? Do Trump’s brain-dead followers actually think he’s going to somehow completely stop attacks like this? Because the sad, inescapable fact is that nobody can ever completely stop these kinds of terrorist attacks, without turning free societies into totalitarian nightmares — and probably not even then.

This is like a picture of right wing dysfunctional magical thinking. Trump is promising his idiot followers something he’ll never be able to deliver, but they don’t even notice or care.

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:57:11pm

re: #25 gocart mozart

If @realDonaldTrump becomes president, the terrorists will just laugh at his abnormally tiny red right hand.

/Nick Cave

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gocart mozart  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:57:22pm
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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:58:46pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

For context, this is a quick thrown-together overlay of Birmingham, with an approximately 4000ft circle centered on each major school Google would give me (who knows about small private schools, daycares, etc).

A mere 7% of the total area of this map. No big deal //////

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:59:22pm

re: #33 451_Montag

I think the tiny hands thing bothers him more, which is I why I am ok with it. Thanks to Spy magazine, he has had decades to get used to the short-fingered vulgarian thing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 22, 2016 • 1:59:36pm

No kidding. Checking in. Awful news out of Belgium.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:00:28pm

re: #38 gocart mozart

Wow, they are REALLY tiny!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:00:41pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

“Totally winning?” Some murderous morons manage to sneak a bomb into a train station and blow it up, and that means they’re winning?

What kind of idiot believes stupid rhetoric like this? Do Trump’s brain-dead followers actually think he’s going to somehow completely stop attacks like this? Because the sad, inescapable fact is that nobody can ever completely stop these kinds of terrorist attacks, without turning free societies into totalitarian nightmares — and probably not even then.

This is like a picture of right wing dysfunctional magical thinking. Trump is promising his idiot followers something he’ll never be able to deliver, but they don’t even notice or care.

He says exactly what his moronic right wing base wants to hear. He knows if they’re scared, they’ll vote for him. What amazes me is people think he’s credible. What the fuck does Donald Trump know about terrorism? Nothing that I see.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:00:48pm

re: #14 KerFuFFler

I just read that Palin is going to be a judge for a court TV reality show. So what if she’s not a judge or a lawyer, or has never taken a single course about the law!

She’s very judgmental and hey, that’s got to count for something, right? //

If this wasn’t such a somber day, I’d laugh myself sick at that news. I assume like everything else she starts, she’ll get bored and quit before she issues her first verdict.

I guess Trump has already told her that he’s not going to pick her as his VP so she’s trying to keep herself in the public eye..

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:02:04pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

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But it’s okay for gun stores to be close to schools, right?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:02:24pm

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

But it’s okay for gun stores to be close to schools, right?

Of course. In the schools, better.

/

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:04:09pm

re: #22 The Vicious Babushka

He waited too long.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:06:17pm
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Great White Snark  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:06:23pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

“Totally winning?” Some murderous morons manage to sneak a bomb into a train station and blow it up, and that means they’re winning?

What kind of idiot believes stupid rhetoric like this? Do Trump’s brain-dead followers actually think he’s going to somehow completely stop attacks like this? Because the sad, inescapable fact is that nobody can ever completely stop these kinds of terrorist attacks, without turning free societies into totalitarian nightmares — and probably not even then.

This is like a picture of right wing dysfunctional magical thinking. Trump is promising his idiot followers something he’ll never be able to deliver, but they don’t even notice or care.

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:06:28pm

re: #34 Timothy Watson

For anyone curious, Alabama does prohibit sex offenders from within 2,000 feet of schools.
law.justia.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:06:49pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

“Totally winning?” Some murderous morons manage to sneak a bomb into a train station and blow it up, and that means they’re winning?

What kind of idiot believes stupid rhetoric like this? Do Trump’s brain-dead followers actually think he’s going to somehow completely stop attacks like this? Because the sad, inescapable fact is that nobody can ever completely stop these kinds of terrorist attacks, without turning free societies into totalitarian nightmares — and probably not even then.

This is like a picture of right wing dysfunctional magical thinking. Trump is promising his idiot followers something he’ll never be able to deliver, but they don’t even notice or care.

The fact that Trump is leading the GOP pack and is the presumptive nominee of a major political party on the basis of his racism and Islamophobia indicates the terrorists are at least partly succeeding. And the fact that the whole Right Wing calls on the President to drop everything he’s doing and fly back to DC over any terror attack that hits white, Christian, Western European countries? That’s terrorism winning - especially given the deafening silence at the similar sized attacks in Ankara, Turkey this weekend.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:07:31pm

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

But it’s okay for gun stores to be close to schools, right?

I bet someone with enough skills could overlay the two maps.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:08:07pm

re: #50 Timothy Watson

For anyone curious, Alabama does prohibit sex offenders from within 2,000 feet of schools.
law.justia.com

Next, Alabama will prohibit abortion clinics within 2000 feet of sex offenders.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:08:29pm

the yuuuuuugest, classiest candidate, you know, people, they tell me, donald you lead in all the polls, believe me

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:10:52pm

re: #46 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Of course. In the schools, better.

/

Just another section of the book store. Pencils, notebooks, banners, school sweatshirts, Uzi’s.

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Great White Snark  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:11:13pm

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

But it’s okay for gun stores to be close to schools, right?

Does seem a terribly distant comparison, except perhaps we really don’t have a problem with children wandering into gun stores and getting guns or health clinics and getting mammograms by mistake. Seems unlikely anyway.
//

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:16:41pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

My shocked face…

Southern Firearms Appraisals is like 400ft from an elementary school.

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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:18:32pm
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Nyet  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:20:12pm

Electing Trump would confirm every worst stereotype and fear about the US for the last 50 years or so.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:20:30pm

I emphasize the slapdash nature of these maps. There’s some error in there, but you can spot check stuff. SFA and Mark’s Outdoor Sports, just to pick on a few, are absolutely within 500-800ft of a school.

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Nyet  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:24:26pm

Interesting, the Russian bank that sponsored LePen in 2014 is nearly bankrupt now.

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:25:31pm
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:28:12pm

re: #32 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

If there are there’s probably an arsonist on the way even as we speak. In AL such an act will no doubt soon be legal, and retroactive.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:29:33pm

re: #62 jaunte

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Haha yeah Cruz really seems to think that’s going to solve the problem. It’s so fucking stupid. For a Princeton grad, Cruz acts incredibly ignorant.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:30:13pm

I’ll bet y’all one shiny internet dollar that there’s a county lockup within 2000 feet of an Alabama school. I found a couple that are within a mile.

I don’t want Google to think I’m a complete nutjob, or I’d keep looking.

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:30:58pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

He may be just as virulent a narcissist as Trump. He seems to have absolutely no respect for voters.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:31:38pm

re: #66 jaunte

He may be just as virulent a narcissist as Trump. He seems to have absolutely no respect for voters.

Well, I don’t have any respect for Ted Cruz’s voters either.

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:33:03pm

re: #67 Testy Toad T

I always thought it was weird that there were people who bought his insincere, oily preacher-talk, but there he is.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:33:31pm

re: #67 Testy Toad T

Well, if I was around one, IRL, I would insist they keep both hands in sight at all times and that they make no sudden moves.

That’s not quite the same thing as respect though, is it?

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:34:38pm

This will just be seen by the Trumpenproletariat as another lackey of the establishment attacking their savior.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:35:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:37:24pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:42:47pm
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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:45:11pm

Although I can appreciate why any Christian would have trouble supporting Trump, it is encouraging that so many sincere and mature Christians would support him in spite of the negatives. How many of us would have chosen the ones Jesus picked to be His leaders? Why didn’t He go to the religious conservatives to find the future leaders of His church? Like it or not, the ones He chose were more like Trump than those we tend to esteem. Even the Apostle John, who is now known as the great messenger of love, was so reactionary that he wanted to call down fire from heaven to consume those who disagreed with them. On the night before Jesus was crucified, the disciples argued over who was the greatest. Sounds like Trump to me.

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wrenchwench  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:46:57pm
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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:48:13pm

re: #74 Kragar

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All Hitler wanted to do was punish those who crucified Jesus.

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:49:27pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

This is like a picture of right wing dysfunctional magical thinking. Trump is promising his idiot followers something he’ll never be able to deliver, but they don’t even notice or care.

Exactly. The GOP and the US right wing have degenerated into something less rational than a cargo cult.

After all, a cargo cult exists because there once was the big ship with all sort of goodies in it, but the GOP hasn’t ever delivered anything tangible for its base.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:51:05pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

Exactly. The GOP and the US right wing have degenerated into something less rational than a cargo cult.

After all, a cargo cult exists because there once was the big ship with all sort of goodies in it, but the GOP hasn’t ever delivered anything tangible for its base.

But they built the bamboo airplane icons every 4 years!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:51:41pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

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wrenchwench  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:53:37pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s all we need, a bunch of pissed off Zonies next door.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:56:37pm

K-9 alerted to the package.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 2:58:33pm

O_o

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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:00:31pm
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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:01:03pm

re: #61 Nyet

Let’s hope the government follows.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:06:15pm

re: #80 wrenchwench

That’s all we need, a bunch of pissed off Zonies next door.

Hell, no different than any other day.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:07:21pm

HOLY CRAP…
I stay away from the internet and TV all day, and the whole world is in turmoil…

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zora  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:07:40pm

re: #11 Big Beautiful Door

Only if white people are the victims./

And these are the ” all lives matter” folks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:09:21pm

re: #61 Nyet

Interesting, the Russian bank that sponsored LePen in 2014 is nearly bankrupt now.

That’s what happens when you plan an entire economy on selling one volatile commodity.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:09:56pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

HOLY CRAP…
I stay away from the internet and TV all day, and the whole world is in turmoil…

Nope. Terrorist attacks? Yes. Whole world in turmoil? No.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:10:35pm

re: #57 Testy Toad T

But strip clubs and women’s health clinics? NEVER!!!!!

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zora  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:13:27pm

re: #32 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Are there even any abortion clinics in Alabama?

They turned them all into gun stores. For the children and God.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:14:10pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

With what? A Ouija board?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:14:30pm
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FormerDirtDart  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:15:16pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:15:47pm

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

Trump advises CNN listeners to talk to Gen. Patton or Gen. MacArthur if they want to know how the U.S. should fight terrorism.

They both would have known a bit about asymmetric warfare, but WTF?!? DT is just throwing names out there to create the impression he has the vaguest understanding of history.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:18:16pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m surprised that his anti-Muslim comments actually resulted in any push back given all the nonsense Trump has gotten away with saying.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:19:18pm

Well, goodnight, Lizards.

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Nyet  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:19:32pm

BTW does Michelle Malkin still call for internment camps for Arabs/Muslims?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:21:16pm

re: #98 Nyet

BTW does Michelle Malkin still call for internment camps for Arabs/Muslims?

Only as a temporary measure until the Final Solution can be effected…

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:23:01pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:24:19pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

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I bet someone with enough skills could overlay the two maps.

I’m truly surprised Birmingham has more schools than gun stores.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:25:00pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

I’m truly surprised Birmingham has more schools than gun stores.

But probably more guns than school students.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:30:53pm

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

But probably more guns than school students.

Don’t forget that every Walmart and outdoor big-box is also a gun store, so our town has more gun shops. IIRC, we lead the state (or nation) per capita.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:31:16pm

NYT website indicates that Utah results won’t start coming in till after 1AM eastern time.

Are the polls really open to 11PM in Utah?

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:31:50pm

Congratulations America. You just passed the Fill Your Pants ISIS Test with flying colors.

Special thanks go out to the Republican Presidential Candidates for helping with all their verbal diarrhea. Very leader.

And as far as TRUMP Strong™…I have visions of him in Dayton Ohio a couple weeks back. Yeah…there is your Patton, MacArthur manly man. But damn those strong hands sure gripped that podium as he was pissing his pants. I can just see him taking on a terrorist. It’d be like the wicked witch melting.

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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:32:04pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:33:21pm

re: #32 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Are there even any abortion clinics in Alabama?

Not many, and fewer than we have fraudulent pregnancy crisis centers.

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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:34:21pm
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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:34:43pm

I notice that CNN’s landing page (in the US anyway) is almost totally given over to the Belgium attacks.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:36:45pm
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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:40:25pm

re: #110 freetoken

CNN is still running this headline:

Bill Clinton: Hillary can ‘put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us’

Gotta fuck that horserace chicken ‘till it bleeds.

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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:40:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:41:41pm
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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:42:25pm

re: #111 Testy Toad T

So much of American media has turned into click-bait tabloids.

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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:45:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:45:37pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:46:48pm

Not only does he have stubby, stumpy fingers but THERE IS WEBBING BETWEEN HIS FINGERS.

HE CAME OUT OF THE SWAMP.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:46:50pm

Remember. Just the other day, Trump was all for us leaving NATO.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:47:24pm

re: #116 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m sorry, those fingers are short.

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:49:20pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Not only does he have stubby, stumpy fingers but THERE IS WEBBING BETWEEN HIS FINGERS.

HE CAME OUT OF THE SWAMP.

I’m more concerned with the webbing between his ears.

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FormerDirtDart  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:49:33pm

re: #117 The Vicious Babushka

Not only does he have stubby, stumpy fingers but THERE IS WEBBING BETWEEN HIS FINGERS.

HE CAME OUT OF THE SWAMP.

I think it just appears there is webbing because his fingers are freakishly stubby

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:51:03pm

re: #115 Kragar

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:52:27pm

re: #109 freetoken

Did you know there was a terrorist attack in Ankara recently where more people died, and ISIS claimed responsibility? Of course you do because you’re well informed. But 99% of Americans have no idea because the media here ignored it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:53:14pm

Chubby manboy chickenhawk says Marines are pussies==>

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:54:23pm

re: #123 GlutenFreeJesus

Did you know there was a terrorist attack in Ankara recently where more people died, and ISIS claimed responsibility? Of course you do because you’re well informed. But 99% of Americans have no idea because the media here ignored it.

SERIOUS EMERGENCY durrrr

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:54:32pm

Tom Costello from NBC is saying a Belgian cabby picked up the three guys that are being shown in that one image. He said the cabby had difficulty picking up the very heavy bags they had with them.

As soon as the cabby heard about the bombing at the airport, the cabby called the police. He took the police to the place/address he picked them up at. That was the apartment the police later broke into and found bomb stuff, nails, an ISIS flag, etc.

I hope all that happening as fast as it did really brings the heat on any other terrorists involved or even in the city that may have not played a part in this attack. Hopefully the police found some contact info, phones, etc.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:54:38pm

re: #116 The Vicious Babushka

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I would talk faster under torture too but that doesn’t mean it works.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:54:45pm

re: #123 GlutenFreeJesus

Did you know there was a terrorist attack in Ankara recently where more people died, and ISIS claimed responsibility? Of course you do because you’re well informed. But 99% of Americans have no idea because the media here ignored it.

There was also an attack in Istanbul.

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No Country For Old Haters  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:57:11pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

Chubby manboy chickenhawk says Marines are pussies==>

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His whole timeline is attention-seeking dumbass.

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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 3:57:42pm

re: #129 No Country For Old Haters

His whole timeline is attention-seeking dumbass.

Sarah Palin with money.

Oh. Wrong attention seeking dumbass.

Sorry.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:00:19pm

re: #127 Patricia Kayden

I would talk faster under torture too but that doesn’t mean it works.

I’d babble like a freakn’ Republican front-runner.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:00:28pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Denver is one of the most important Airports in the US. This does need to be watched until it is resolved.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:00:52pm

re: #132 Ziggy_TARDIS

Denver is one of the most important Airports in the US. This does need to be watched until it is resolved.

Police just gave the all clear.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:01:13pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

What was it they detected?

A farmer?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:01:39pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

Crowder’s just pissed that a ‘piece of ass’ (to him) could kick his ass.

Aww, ze poor bebe..

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:01:43pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

Police just gave the all clear.

Bad dog! Bad dog.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:01:54pm

re: #134 Ziggy_TARDIS

What was it they detected?

A farmer?

No idea. It was a bomb sniffing dog that alerted on the packages.

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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:02:55pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:03:19pm

And, of course, some people are bitching and blaming Obama…

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:03:28pm

re: #65 Testy Toad T

I’ll bet y’all one shiny internet dollar that there’s a county lockup within 2000 feet of an Alabama school. I found a couple that are within a mile.

I don’t want Google to think I’m a complete nutjob, or I’d keep looking.

How much do you wish to bet that an abortion clinic being built before the law was written, happens to be within 2000 ft of a school?

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:04:09pm

re: #124 The Vicious Babushka

Chubby manboy chickenhawk says Marines are pussies==>

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KGxvi  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:05:06pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

I’m contemplating re-registering for our primary in June. California leaves it to the parties to decide if independents (or in Californian parlance “decline to state”) can vote in their presidential primaries. The Democrats, Libertarians, and one other minor party allow independents to vote, but the GOP doesn’t. If the GOP contest really does go all the way to California, I kind of want to vote against Trump.

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whitebeach  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:05:43pm

re: #136 Decatur Deb

Bad dog! Bad dog.

It’s like with doctors. Somebody in K-9 bomb-sniffing school has to be at the bottom of the class, but after graduation he’s still called a bomb-sniffing dog.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:05:43pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Going with farmer on vacation then.

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KGxvi  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:06:13pm

re: #134 Ziggy_TARDIS

What was it they detected?

A farmer?

Being that it’s in Colorado, there’s an obvious joke…

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:06:28pm

re: #142 KGxvi

If the GOP contest really does go all the way to California, I kind of want to vote against Trump.

Barring catastrophe, the California GOP primaries are absolutely going to matter. That’s just the way the delegate allocation rules shake out from here on.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:07:05pm

Cruzites are jumping on the Mia Love endorsement as some sort of proof that Cruz has a “positive agenda” for America.

Love converted to LDS and has been very much invested in a theocratic view of government, so her endorsement of Cruz is hardly a surprise.

Which raises the question of just how much LDS members are willing to embrace the Protestant theocrats, but the reverse is less true.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:07:09pm

re: #65 Testy Toad T

I’ll bet y’all one shiny internet dollar that there’s a county lockup within 2000 feet of an Alabama school. I found a couple that are within a mile.

I don’t want Google to think I’m a complete nutjob, or I’d keep looking.

Try Alabama school of fine arts and Jefferson county jail.

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Kragar  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:07:40pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:08:07pm

Bomb Brussels!!

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Dave In Austin  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:09:18pm

re: #144 Ziggy_TARDIS

Going with farmer on vacation then.

Ah Ha!! Farmer=Fertilizer=Nitrates=BSD Alert=Close the Airport=ISIS!!

Therefore the Farmer must be ISIS!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:09:40pm

“Well I would say that the eggheads who came up with this international law should turn on their television and watch CNN right now, because I’m looking at scenes on CNN right now as I’m talking to you that are absolutely atrocious,” Trump told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:11:44pm

The appropriate Biblical analogy for Donald Trump is Balaam and his ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:11:49pm
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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:12:03pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why does he think torture would stop people who are willing to blow themselves up?

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KGxvi  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:12:10pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t know enough swear words to properly articulate my feelings on this

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:13:04pm

re: #128 The Vicious Babushka

Yup!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:13:25pm

^^this^^

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KGxvi  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:13:36pm

re: #153 The Vicious Babushka

The appropriate Biblical analogy for Donald Trump is Balaam and his ass.

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If only there was a God still willing to smite people, then we could see about making Job the appropriate biblical analogy for Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:14:15pm
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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:15:35pm

re: #160 Dave In Austin

I suppose Trump has the adultery thing down.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:17:23pm

re: #143 whitebeach

It’s like with doctors. Somebody in K-9 bomb-sniffing school has to be at the bottom of the class, but after graduation he’s still called a bomb-sniffing dog.

We had a huge Suburban when we lived in Italy. During one of the periods of elevated alert, they put dogs on the base gates. A dog alerted on us, and we went through the whole drill, even pulling out the damned bench seats, because that’s where the kids had dumped the Cheetos.

(The problem was that the MP dogs of that time were not specialized—they trained them to cover both drugs and HE.)

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:17:54pm

re: #156 KGxvi

I don’t know enough swear words to properly articulate my feelings on this

Once I became accustomed to the Republican party as being a pro-torture party, as it certainly is, my outrage was largely replaced with resignation, along with further determination to never vote GOP for any office, ever again, as long as I live.

The fact that the single most compelling reason for favoring torture according to the GOP base is that Obama is against it is disgusting, but utterly predictable.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:19:34pm

re: #162 Decatur Deb

A dog alerted on us, and we went through the whole drill, even pulling out the damned bench seats, because that’s where the kids had dumped the Cheetos.
(The problem was that the MP dogs of that time were not specialized—they trained them to cover both drugs and HE.)

Hey-that Cheetoh dust is deadly shit.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:19:48pm

Evening Lizardim.

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:19:57pm

So I take it the big “no more phone-in interviews with Trump” rule got thrown out the window, because he had such cogent wisdom to impart today?

What secret cave is TRUMP in that they can’t even do a satellite video connection? Correspondents can do live video from war zones, but the media morons can’t turn a camera on this moron unless he calls a “news conference” to shill his idiotic products and take no questions.

Ugh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:21:02pm

re: #164 Eric The Fruit Bat

Hey-that Cheetoh dust is deadly shit.

Look what it did to Trump!

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Nojay UK  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:21:05pm

re: #143 whitebeach

It’s like with doctors. Somebody in K-9 bomb-sniffing school has to be at the bottom of the class, but after graduation he’s still called a bomb-sniffing dog.

The British Army’s weapons and bomb detection dog teams are called Wagtails. Really.

There’s a wonderful story on ARRSE about a Wagtail dog called Stumpy in Norn Iron during the Troubles, worth reading and funny as heck. Warning: strong language only slightly bowdlerised, and very NSFW situations described in graphic terms.

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:21:57pm

re: #166 BeachDem

So I take it the big “no more phone-in interviews with Trump” rule got thrown out the window, because he had such cogent wisdom to impart today?

What secret cave is TRUMP in that they can’t even do a satellite video connection? Correspondents can do live video from war zones, but the media morons can’t turn a camera on this moron unless he calls a “news conference” to shill his idiotic products and take no questions.

Ugh.

It must take Trump hours each day to get that orange face put on properly. The butler probably has to apply dyed spackle with a trowel.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:23:03pm

Just in case you thought Bryan Fischer stopped being an insane racist bigot, guess what! He still is.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:23:58pm

re: #170 The Vicious Babushka

Just in case you thought Bryan Fischer stopped being an insane racist bigot, guess what! He still is.

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Sounds like somebody needs a good bear hug.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:24:11pm

Jesus fuck!

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:26:24pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

Jesus fuck!

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What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:26:51pm

Christ on a pony…..

Homeland chair: After Brussels, Congress must act on encryption

The incidents have shed light on terrorists’ use of encryption to communicate.

Earth to you clueless Congressional fucks-they used burner phones, which your bill doesn’t address.

The Sweet Meteor of Death can’t come soon enough.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:27:22pm

re: #170 The Vicious Babushka

Just in case you thought Bryan Fischer stopped being an insane racist bigot, guess what! He still is.


You can’t do that, Bryan. Of course you already know that but the dupes who send you money don’t.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:27:42pm

National Racists Online come out and embrace their well earned epithet:

After Brussels, Time to Get Serious

[…]

Other measures are necessary. In a press conference shortly after the Brussels attack, Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz stated, “We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized,” a proposal that, predictably, has the usual suspects rending their garments. But directing limited law-enforcement resources toward likely sources of radicalization — certain mosques and community centers, for example — should be common sense; responsible people know the difference between a targeted approach to thwart a real and dangerous phenomenon and an unconstitutional dragnet.

[…]

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:27:58pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

My father has a story from when he worked on Cyprus in - I believe - the late 1970s. He was in conversation with an RAF officer about the state of security on the island, and the officer told him that some of the local police had been guerilla fighters not too long before, and to “be careful, because some of those men killed people, and they learned to like it.”

One of the reasons we don’t torture - besides the fact that it doesn’t work - is that it makes monsters out of the practitioners, more often than not, and that genie is awfully hard to put back in the bottle. I don’t know why grown adults can’t see that. I don’t know why this vulgar orange dumbfuck actually gains traction advocating one of the worst features of tyrannical governments everywhere. The mind, it boggles.

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KerFuFFler  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:27:59pm

Good news in the world: my daughter-in-law is in labor with her first child and our first grandchild! So nice to get a new member of the family without my having to go into labor.

I tend to be a fairly agnostic Jew, but hey, on such an occasion, all prayers, kind thoughts or positive energies are welcome. It beats thinking about world events today too!

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:29:12pm

In the end, NRO will all be for Drumpfskind’s internment camps for Muslims.

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gocart mozart  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:29:35pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:29:40pm

re: #178 KerFuFFler

Good news in the world: my daughter-in-law is in labor with her first child and our first grandchild! So nice to get a new member of the family without my having to go into labor.

I tend to be a fairly agnostic Jew, but hey, on such an occasion, all prayers, kind thoughts or positive energies are welcome. It beats thinking about world events today too!

May she have an easy delivery & a healthy child!

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:29:49pm

re: #179 freetoken

In the end, NRO will all be for Drumpfskind’s internment camps for Muslims.

Not knowing they will get the first spots available.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:29:54pm

re: #178 KerFuFFler

The Lizards will stand guard as we did with Wonkette’s spawn, Donna Rose.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:30:06pm

Essentially, NRO is bowing before Drumpfskind.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:30:44pm

re: #178 KerFuFFler

Good news in the world: my daughter-in-law is in labor with her first child and our first grandchild! So nice to get a new member of the family without my having to go into labor.

I tend to be a fairly agnostic Jew, but hey, on such an occasion, all prayers, kind thoughts or positive energies are welcome. It beats thinking about world events today too!

Mazel tov! Prayers for a swift, safe delivery with no complications.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:31:05pm

We’ve still got a week left on my “someone dies at a Trump rally” prediction. If that doesn’t happen, my backup bet is somebody calling for PUTTING EM ALL IN CAMPS by Friday.

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Jay C  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:31:14pm

re: #178 KerFuFFler

Mazel Tov!!

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:31:25pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

Jesus fuck!

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Left unstated: because he has no idea how to do it.

It’s not often a candidate admits that they don’t know how to do something and they’ll never bother to learn.

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:31:29pm

re: #184 freetoken

Essentially, NRO is bowing before Drumpfskind.

Were they not the folks that wanted to stop Trump???

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:32:12pm

re: #183 Eric The Fruit Bat

The Lizards will stand guard as we did with Wonkette’s spawn, Amber Rose.

Donna Rose (pedants r us)

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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:32:16pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And, of course, some people are bitching and blaming Obama…

That guy just won’t give up his Cuban vacation no matter what!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:32:56pm

re: #189 ObserverArt

Were they not the folks that wanted to stop Trump???

Still do—they arrived at this bit of derp because Trump and their guy Cruz converge on it.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:34:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:35:00pm

re: #166 BeachDem

So I take it the big “no more phone-in interviews with Trump” rule got thrown out the window, because he had such cogent wisdom to impart today?

What secret cave is TRUMP in that they can’t even do a satellite video connection? Correspondents can do live video from war zones, but the media morons can’t turn a camera on this moron unless he calls a “news conference” to shill his idiotic products and take no questions.

Ugh.

He’s not looking up to speed is my guess. Sprawled out in his gold bathrobe.
(wtf did I just type, puke)

UGH for sure.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:38:30pm

re: #189 ObserverArt

Were they not the folks that wanted to stop Trump???

Drumpfskind has beat them around the head. NRO is finally submitting, but they are not going quickly through the acceptance stage. Haltingly they are embracing the Drumpf-memes [there appears to be no German equivalent of the contemporary English word “meme”, alas].

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Stanley Sea  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:39:06pm

re: #168 Nojay UK

Read the first post. Love the language, I can pretty much figure it out. Will go back & read the rest.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:39:35pm

Uh … erm .. huh?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:39:45pm

re: #186 Pawn of the Oppressor

We’ve still got a week left on my “someone dies at a Trump rally” prediction. If that doesn’t happen, my backup bet is somebody calling for PUTTING EM ALL IN CAMPS by Friday.

I will not be surprised if someone is killed or at least seriously hospitalized at a Trump rally.

And there are three certainties:

There will be an endless screaming tirade of hype and blaming

The victim will be portrayed as having “asked for it” (unless the victim is a Trump supporter)

and

Trump’s GOP poll standings will rise

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:40:47pm

re: #197 De Kolta Chair

Uh … erm .. huh?

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Amazing insight there, Captain Obvious.

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De Kolta Chair  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:41:18pm

re: #199 thedopefishlives

Amazing insight there, Captain Obvious.

Channeling Rumsfeld perhaps?

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:42:00pm

re: #200 De Kolta Chair

Channeling Rumsfeld?

Ha, that’s a good one.

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KGxvi  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:42:39pm

re: #190 BeachDem

Donna Rose (pedants r us)

yeah, Amber is someone very, very different.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:43:16pm

re: #190 BeachDem

Donna Rose (pedants r us)

Thanks. I just spewed.

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:44:14pm

re: #195 freetoken

“Trumpanschauung?”

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:44:50pm

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel

You can’t do that, Bryan. Of course you already know that but the dupes who send you money don’t.

Welcome can’t discriminate based on religion, so we’ll have to do it to Christians as well.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:46:41pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:48:32pm

re: #197 De Kolta Chair

More of the GOP’s We have nothing to offer but fear itself theme. It should be the number one plank in every GOP Presidential, Congressional, and Senate campaign.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:49:12pm

re: #207 Skip Intro

More of the GOP’s We have nothing to offer but fear itself theme. It should be the number one plank in every GOP Presidential, Congressional, and Senate campaign.

Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt - the three control arms that drive the machinery of the wingnut right.

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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:50:09pm

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I will not be surprised if someone is killed or at least seriously hospitalized at a Trump rally.

And there are three certainties:

There will be an endless screaming tirade of hype and blaming

The victim will be portrayed as having “asked for it” (unless the victim is a Trump supporter)

and

Trump’s GOP poll standings will rise

And if it’s a Trump supporter his poll numbers will rise more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:50:14pm

re: #208 thedopefishlives

Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt - the three control arms that drive the machinery of the wingnut right.

you forgot rage, hatred and xenophobia

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:50:23pm

I just learned that Bernie Sanders is a Super-delegate.
And, he is pledged to himself.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:50:33pm

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

you forgot rage, hatred and xenophobia

Nope. Those are the results.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2016 • 4:52:28pm

re: #190 BeachDem

Corrected.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:00:34pm

Typical Facebook comment on a post about Carson’s Drumpf-kissing statement:

Facebook Post

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:02:17pm

So, I put in the url from the time stamp of the comment… and only the original post comes up…

Seems like Facebook has more url types than Carter has pills.

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:02:51pm

re: #208 thedopefishlives

Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt - the three control arms that drive the machinery of the wingnut right.

And so fucking predictable.

A Child’s Garden of People to Ignore at Times of International Peril

…And people got all scared and everything. They wanted the president to do something so they wouldn’t be so scared anymore but all he wanted to do was be president and try to find a solution to the bad thing that happened. That scared them even worse.

And then the president helped make the bad thing go away, and America got all better, and these three guys went on to be the last three people standing for the Republican presidential nomination.

esquire.com

The three stooges reaction to EBOLA!!!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:03:16pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:04:21pm

re: #190 BeachDem

Donna Rose (pedants r us)

They r indeed.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:04:24pm

Shapiro’s fans REALLY didn’t like this response.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:05:06pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

“White is a race” - is sure sign of someone not really interested in biological reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:06:07pm
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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:07:03pm

re: #214 freetoken

Dec 2015

Despite all that Obama has done against ISIS, there is no official war:

if Congress believes, as I do, that we are at war with ISIL, it should go ahead and vote to authorize the continued use of military force against these terrorists.

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:07:04pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good one, Hillary!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:10:32pm

Instagram

“Hola amigo.”

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Timothy Watson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:11:03pm

re: #214 freetoken

Typical Facebook comment on a post about Carson’s Drumpf-kissing statement:

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And we’re waiting on the Republican Congress to do just that.

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BroncD  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:14:13pm

re: #211 Ming5000

Two other superdelegates: Alan Grayson and Elizabeth Warren.
Kind of takes the air out of the “SUPERDELEGATES ARE TEH EVILZ” narrative.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:15:12pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s actually an excellent point. Wingnuts seem to think it requires physical proximity and interaction IRL to radicalize anyone else, and yet they radicalize each other online with no physical interaction.

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No Depression  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:16:11pm

re: #226 BroncD

Two other superdelegates: Alan Grayson and Elizabeth Warren.
Kind of takes the air out of the “SUPERDELEGATES ARE TEH EVILZ” narrative.

Just wait until Elizabeth Warren pledges her vote to Hillary.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:16:34pm

re: #226 BroncD

Two other superdelegates: Alan Grayson and Elizabeth Warren.
Kind of takes the air out of the “SUPERDELEGATES ARE TEH EVILZ” narrative.

No, no. All superdelegates are evil, even if they are running for president.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:17:07pm

So, Piers Morgan is now pushing Drumpf style xenophobia.

Soon, many more will follow.

Not since my youth, when the Vietnam war police action was raging, have our political system offered the kind of choices we are facing.

After 9/11 the emotions were very high, but politically most of the national leaders were unified, and even invading Iraq had bi-partisan support.

So now, assuming Drumpfskind is the nominee, the election will really be a choice between two paths for the future.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:18:25pm

re: #226 BroncD

Agree. After looking into the super-delegate structure it makes sense to me. And, I am pretty sure the GOP is envious this cycle.

Super-delegates come from several categories of prominent Democratic Party members: [snipped summary]
20 distinguished party leaders (DPL), consisting of current and former presidents, vice-presidents, congressional leaders, and DNC chairs
21 Democratic governors
46 Democratic members of the United States Senate
193 Democratic members of the United States House of Representatives
435 elected members of the Democratic National Committee

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:19:32pm

re: #230 freetoken

So, Piers Morgan is now pushing Drumpf style xenophobia.

Soon, many more will follow.

Not since my youth, when the Vietnam war police action was raging, have our political system offered the kind of choices we are facing.

After 9/11 the emotions were very high, but politically most of the national leaders were unified, and even invading Iraq had bi-partisan support.

So now, assuming Drumpfskind is the nominee, the election will really be a choice between two paths for the future.

The Democrats will offer a cautiously optimistic view of the future.

The Republicans will declare a boogie man around every corner. The problem with this is that, if there is no scary monster of the week, they’ll have to create one.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:19:40pm

re: #231 Ming5000

There are enough uncommitted Republican delegates to give the party leaders a bit of leverage, if Drumpfskind falls short of 1237 committed delegates.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:20:24pm

re: #228 No Depression

Just wait until Elizabeth Warren pledges her vote to Hillary.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden are also still uncommitted!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:20:32pm

bless her heart…

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jaunte  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:21:09pm

Paging Chuck C.

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Shiplord Kirel  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:21:10pm

re: #200 De Kolta Chair

Channeling Rumsfeld perhaps?

I had to check to make sure Rummy is still alive. He is, living in dishonorable retirement in, presumably, Illinois. He has also been spotted around Taos and Santa Fe NM.

The only good thing I can say for Rumcake is that he is the rare GOP fatcat who is not a total chickenhawk. He never saw action but he did serve as a Naval aviator in the ’50s, a damned dangerous gig all by itself, and remained in the active reserve until 1975.

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:21:29pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

What’s next? Putting an immortal Elizabot on SCOTUS programmed with all the RWNJ talking points?

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ObserverArt  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:23:19pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

ABC News Politics ✔ ‎@ABCPolitics

WATCH: @HillaryClinton hits Trump on ISIS: “How high does the wall have to be to keep the internet out?”

6:27 PM - 22 Mar 2016

How high does the wall have to be to cover Trumps big mouth?

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coin operated  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:23:30pm

Am I the only one that, when hearing the Donald say “I’m Smart”, hears it in the voice of Fredo in Godfather II?

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:24:17pm

re: #233 freetoken

I didn’t find an easy explanation of the GOP uncommitteds.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:24:35pm

I can watch this over and over
10,000 people shouting FUCK DONALD TRUMP

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allegro  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:25:22pm

Decided to take a break from the news and derp today, just flipping the teevee on to get a weather report this evening. FFS. Just three things before continuing my day off:

1) My thoughts and support to the people of Belgium and any others affected by this evil, idiotic and senseless violence. May you know peace and normalcy again soon.

2) Fuck the assholes there who did this.

3) Fuck the assholes here who are exploiting the violence and pain for their own self-centered reward. STFU.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:25:24pm

re: #197 De Kolta Chair

Uh … erm .. huh?

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That won’t stop the liars at FAUX from slamming the President!

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:25:59pm

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

you forgot rage, hatred and xenophobia

It’s difficult to give a complete list of all the pathologies the GOP embodies.

Summarizing the GOP as a synthesis of all varieties of willful ignorance and deliberate malice seems to be more efficient.

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No Depression  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:26:40pm

re: #234 Ming5000

Barack Obama and Joe Biden are also still uncommitted!

Pffft. Who cares? Obama is a Rockefeller Republican!

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:26:41pm

re: #241 Ming5000

Some state Republican parties are sending uncommitted delegates. CO and PA (majority) and a few others.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:27:36pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

bless her heart…

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Just remember, her dad couldn’t campaign and deal with the economy at the same time.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:27:37pm

re: #246 No Depression

You lost me , Pappy

:D

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No Country For Old Haters  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:28:36pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

bless her heart…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:28:54pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:29:04pm
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makeitstop  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:29:08pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

He’s not looking up to speed is my guess. Sprawled out in his gold bathrobe.
(wtf did I just type, puke)

UGH for sure.

The Glowing Orange Royal Makeup has not been applied at that time of day.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:30:18pm

re: #247 freetoken

Some state Republican parties are sending uncommitted delegates. CO and PA (majority) and a few others.

Oh! Right…
So, looking back, and noting that cartoon, it seems there could be a lot of…. inducements provided for those uncommitted delegates. Wow… this could get REALLY ugly.
I saw a mini-series about a similar convention. It was called, ….The Borgias

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No Depression  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:30:26pm

re: #232 Belafon

The Democrats will offer a cautiously optimistic view of the future.

The Republicans will declare a boogie man around every corner. The problem with this is that, if there is no scary monster of the week, they’ll have to create one.

The Republican voter’s paranoid worldview, in song form!

David Bowie- Scary Monsters (And super creeps)

Scary monsters, super creeps
Keep me running, running scared

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:30:58pm

re: #253 makeitstop

The Glowing Orange Royal Makeup has not been applied at that time of day.

I forgot to mention upthread than the Orange Makeup is applied in a very classy way. The trowel used by the butler for this operation is gold plated.

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451_Montag  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:33:46pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

He’s not looking up to speed is my guess. Sprawled out in his gold bathrobe.
(wtf did I just type, puke)

UGH for sure.

At that time of the morning his hair is probably still asleep in it pen

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:33:52pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:35:00pm

Andy is mad y’all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:36:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:36:11pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:36:37pm

White kid shoots up a grade school and kills more than 20 5 year olds - Our prayers are with the families!

No talk of war. No talk of how these white kids are winning. No talk of patrolling the neighborhoods where they come from.

‘Merica.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:36:59pm

re: #253 makeitstop

The Glowing Orange Royal Makeup has not been applied at that time of day.

What cracks me is he is so vain. He does his own hair. & makeup I’m sure.

Embarrassing!

SAD!

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:37:12pm

re: #259 goddamnedfrank

I love it.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:37:15pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve read that some people say her book isn’t helpful to LGBTs. Has anyone here read it?

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No Depression  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:38:44pm

re: #249 Ming5000

You lost me , Pappy

:D

No worries! I was referring to this: Cornel West Calls Obama a “Rockefeller Republican in Blackface”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:39:14pm

President Trump Expresses Frustration That Expanded Torture Rules And Ban On Travel In Or Out Of U.S. Has Failed To Stop Terror

blames white supremacist massacres on provocations by unsegregated schoolchildren

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:40:20pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

IRRELEVANT!!!!1!111

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:40:27pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

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It’s a compliment of sorts, they’re saying you’re a role model, one they’re obviously chagrinned to be emulating, but still.

It’s too bad they’re in so fucking deep that they’ll never admit the problem is modern conservatism itself.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:40:34pm
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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:40:54pm

re: #266 No Depression

I gotta step up my game. Thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:41:06pm

re: #265 Belafon

I’ve read that some people say her book isn’t helpful to LGBTs. Has anyone here read it?

I have and so has Bubblehead.
Here’s what Jesse Singal had to say about the book:
Why Some of the Worst Attacks on Social Science Have Come From Liberals

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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:41:59pm

re: #267 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Sorry, but President Trump would never admit failure even if he was the only one left, standing in a crater where the White House used to be.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:43:13pm

re: #273 Skip Intro

Sorry, but President Trump would never admit failure even if he was the only one left, standing in a crater where the White House used to be.

Baghdad Bob with a terrible combover.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:43:38pm
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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:44:03pm

Politico brings us this:

[…]

In a cautionary note for Democrats, Merolla said that their research showed that frightened voters do not necessarily look for traditional leadership qualities such as Clinton’s long tenure in government. She added that female politicians “are typically at a disadvantage” when terrorism is a dominant issue.

There was some evidence on Tuesday of pro-Trump sentiment emerging from unlikely quarters. “Hate Donald Trump all you like, but at least he seems to recognise the magnitude of the threat and at least he has firm proposals for how to try to defeat it,” the former CNN prime-time host Piers Morgan, generally considered a liberal, wrote in the Daily Mail. “[H]ow many more scenes like this morning’s appalling images from Brussels are we going to tolerate before we try a non-PC option to beat these disgusting excuses for human beings?”

[…]

What does “non-PC” really mean?

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stpaulbear  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:44:18pm

re: #9 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

As I posted downstairs,

So according to Kasich-Cruz and the other couch-fainters, the POTUS should immediately drop whatever he or she is doing, no matter what or where, and run back to Washington whenever there’s a terrorist attack anywhere in the world?

Sounds like a bad precedent.

Hey, this is JUST LIKE when John McCain cancelled his campaign to call for a meeting in Washington about the financial crisis in 2008!

…and then he didn’t have anything to say at the meeting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:44:22pm

Contains Daredevil Season 2 Spoilers:

Anyone notice a problem with the flag?

Did we lose some states?

I saw this last night and I thought, “Are there only 48 states in the Marvel Universe?’

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:44:38pm

re: #276 freetoken

Politico brings us this:

What does “non-PC” really mean?

It means the things they really want to do, but even they realize how wrong it sounds.

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calochortus  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:45:47pm

re: #265 Belafon

I’ve read that some people say her book isn’t helpful to LGBTs. Has anyone here read it?

I have.

I’m straight so I can’t comment from an LGBT perspective. I do know she got a lot of outrage over supporting a researcher’s unpopular (with some) research about the causes of transexuality. My problem with it wasn’t with supporting the aforementioned researcher (apparently a bunch of trans folks agree with him others don’t) but that I see no reason why his hypothesis explains why all trans people are trans. She seemed to me to be siding with the researcher and implying that all transexuality has the same cause.

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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:46:01pm

re: #276 freetoken

Politico brings us this:

What does “non-PC” really mean?

I was wondering what these “firm proposals” that Trump supposedly has are?

Torture, check.

Anything else?

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Skip Intro  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:46:47pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe they got rid of Texas and Florida.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:48:41pm

re: #281 Skip Intro

I was wonder what these “firm proposals” that Trump supposedly has are?

Torture, check.

Anything else?

Huge walls around airports and subway stations.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:49:07pm

re: #283 Decatur Deb

Huge YOOOOOGE walls around airports and subway stations.

FTFY

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:50:15pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

They’ve been throwing out hints that this isn’t the same universe we live in for a while.

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freetoken  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:51:02pm

I fear that Hillary Clinton will not be a strong enough voice against the Drumpfidiotie.

Part of that is a gender issue. Part of it is her own idiosyncratic form of speech, which isn’t very seductive (and I don’t mean that in a sexual sense.)

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:51:12pm

re: #284 thedopefishlives

FTFY

A Pittsburgh accent always gives you away in New York:

“Where ya from?”
“Pittsburgh”
“Oh, out west”.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:51:34pm

Also a Twitter Brit.

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Testy Toad T  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:51:58pm

re: #286 freetoken

I fear that Hillary Clinton will not be a strong enough voice against the Drumpfidiotie.

If you’re trying to defeat The Donald by engaging in feats of strength, you’re having the wrong conversation.

I hope the Clinton team is smarter than that. I’m pretty confident they are.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:52:05pm

re: #206 Charles Johnson

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:52:25pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

A Pittsburgh accent always gives you away in New York:

“Where ya from?”
“Pittsburgh”
“Oh, out west”.

Midwesterners generally have one of the most neutral inflections across the United States, but there are subtle differences. Then there’s the northern Midwest accent, which is very distinctive, ya, sure, ya betcha.

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thedopefishlives  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:53:18pm

re: #290 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Decatur Deb  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:54:42pm

re: #291 thedopefishlives

Midwesterners generally have one of the most neutral inflections across the United States, but there are subtle differences. Then there’s the northern Midwest accent, which is very distinctive, ya, sure, ya betcha.

“West” starts at one of the GWB toll plazas.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:54:46pm

re: #276 freetoken

Politico brings us this:

What does “non-PC” really mean?

Rude, racist & assholery.

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Ming5000  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:54:56pm

re: #286 freetoken

I fear that Hillary Clinton will not be a strong enough voice against the Drumpfidiotie.

Part of that is a gender issue. Part of it is her own idiosyncratic form of speech, which isn’t very seductive (and I don’t mean that in a sexual sense.)

I gave up worrying about the right 45%.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:56:16pm

re: #294 Stanley Sea

Exactly the stuff Piers Morgan did in the UK.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:58:12pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have and so has Bubblehead.
Here’s what Jesse Singal had to say about the book:
Why Some of the Worst Attacks on Social Science Have Come From Liberals

Thanks. I’ll have to hold onto that one.

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:58:15pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Which nurses’ group was it that supported Bernie that was a “this changes everything” moment, like so many others? (wasn’t there a big brouhaha about Hillary people in red jerseys and the nurses “owned” the color red?)

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 22, 2016 • 5:59:07pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

So he’s telling us he will even outsource being President?
Can’t wait to hear his supporters’ explanations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:01:12pm

re: #298 BeachDem

Which nurses’ group was it that supported Bernie that was a “this changes everything” moment, like so many others? (wasn’t there a big brouhaha about Hillary people in red jerseys and the nurses “owned” the color red?)

National Nurses United

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:01:51pm

re: #195 freetoken

Haltingly they are embracing the Drumpf-memes [there appears to be no German equivalent of the contemporary English word “meme”, alas]

No problem! Write a sentence in German describing what a meme is. Then just take out all the spaces - new German word!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:04:36pm

re: #259 goddamnedfrank

Andy is mad y’all.

[Embedded content]

WHITE IS A RACE!!!!
WHITE POWER IS AN IDEOLOGY!!!111

A distinction without a difference.

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No Country For Old Haters  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:05:14pm

re: #290 Eric The Fruit Bat

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:06:57pm

re: #285 Charles Johnson

Not yet, at least.

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:07:40pm

re: #280 calochortus

I have.

I’m straight so I can’t comment from an LGBT perspective. I do know she got a lot of outrage over supporting a researcher’s unpopular (with some) research about the causes of transexuality. My problem with it wasn’t with supporting the aforementioned researcher (apparently a bunch of trans folks agree with him) but that I see no reason why his hypothesis explains why all trans people are trans. She seemed to me to be siding with the researcher and implying that all transexuality has the same cause.

I read the article that #272 Backwoods_Sleuth, and the summary in there read to me that he didn’t think they were all influenced by the environment or genetics, but that there could be influences from both. It didn’t seem like an all or nothing. But, then again, I haven’t read the book.

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BeachDem  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:07:50pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

National Nurses United

Thanks. Is one or the other of the groups more influential? I don’t know why I’m asking all these questions, but I just know you’ll have the answers!

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Belafon  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:12:07pm

re: #303 No Country For Old Haters

I think you need to put most of that in a private tag since the original was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:12:43pm

re: #306 BeachDem

Thanks. Is one or the other of the groups more influential? I don’t know why I’m asking all these questions, but I just know you’ll have the answers!

ANA is larger, I think.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:14:29pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

ANA is larger, I think.

Also, ANA is a nurses association, while NNU is a nurses union.

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No Country For Old Haters  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:15:08pm

re: #307 Belafon

I think you need to put most of that in a private tag since the original was.

Thanks. Done.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:22:23pm

re: #303 No Country For Old Haters

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makeitstop  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:22:26pm

re: #289 Testy Toad T

If you’re trying to defeat The Donald by engaging in feats of strength, you’re having the wrong conversation.

I hope the Clinton team is smarter than that. I’m pretty confident they are.

Her statement the other day (which included the phrase ‘we need strong hands’) shows that she knows exactly how to go after him.

She’s going to get inside his head early and expose his inner rage head. Campaigning against Clinton is going to be a lot harder than he thinks it will be.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:26:37pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

A Pittsburgh accent always gives you away in New York:

“Where ya from?”
“Pittsburgh”
“Oh, out west”.

Especially when you ask for a gumband. Or you need to redd up your place. Or yinz love the Dirty O’s fries. And you watch the Stillers. And don’t forget to put on your gutchies! Then there’s the Pants ‘n at!

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EPR-radar  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:27:30pm

re: #276 freetoken

Politico brings us this:

What does “non-PC” really mean?

It means the US commits atrocities with (self-bestowed) impunity “because we’re the good guys”.

The US indulged in entirely too much of that pernicious nonsense after 9/11, and we really need to make that a “never again” thing.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 22, 2016 • 6:39:43pm

re: #262 GlutenFreeJesus

White kid shoots up a grade school and kills more than 20 5 year olds - Our prayers are with the families!

No talk of war. No talk of how these white kids are winning. No talk of patrolling the neighborhoods where they come from.

‘Merica.

I really don’t understand it. I really don’t. It hit me as hard as 9/11 (the Virginia Tech shooting, too). But I try to forget the way I imagined these children dying in the days and weeks and months after. I actually started to try to not think about what the parents were going through. Then a few months ago the asshole Florida professor who was a Sandy Hook truther got notice for his activity. And then this weekend my son’s soccer team from NH played a Newtown, CT team in a tournament and I saw a couple of cars with “never forget Sandy Hook” stickers. I’m a 51 year old man and I started crying again.

I feel the same way when I hear of children caught in gang crossfire, but I don’t get that news as often until the conversation is “what about black on black crime?”

It’s so hard when those of us who think “what would make America great” has no or little root in a mythological past (the “again”) but in a future that is uncertain but is based on rational discussion. In this case, about guns.

I’m dreaming, aren’t I?


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