Donald Trump Defends Call to Punish Women Who Have Abortions: ‘I Didn’t See Any Big Deal’

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He said it, he didn’t say it, he said it but changed his mind, people thought what he said was terrific!

Trump in a nutshell.

Last week, GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump took several competing positions on abortion rights over a period of three days.

Trump, who was once adamantly pro-choice, said on Wednesday that “there has to be some form of punishment” for women who have abortions, only to claim later that day that he has never supported such a policy. Then, on Sunday, Trump declared that “we have to leave” current abortion laws in place, only to be again contradicted by his own campaign.

But the way conservative radio host Joe Pags sees it, Trump’s initial “punishment” comments were simply the result of a trap set by MSNBC in an effort to dislodge his candidacy. While speaking with Trump over the weekend, Pags said the candidate should have never even appeared on MSNBC “after what CNBC did in that one debate that was disgusting.”

Trump, interestingly enough, bragged about all the praise he received after saying that if abortion becomes illegal, women who have abortion should be punished.

“A lot of people thought my answer was excellent, by the way,” he told Pags. “There were a lot of people who thought that was a very good answer.”

He added that he “didn’t see any big deal” about the comments until they prompted “somewhat of a storm.”

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EiMitch  Apr 5, 2016 • 2:27:40pm

If he can get away with constantly flirting with white supremacists while playing dumb, then flip-flopping on abortion is no big deal to his supporters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 5, 2016 • 3:53:15pm

Thanks for the promotion, Charles!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2016 • 3:53:21pm

What’s the over/under on open brawling at the convention?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2016 • 3:54:45pm

Right on time.

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KGxvi  Apr 5, 2016 • 3:55:07pm

Reposted from the end of the last thread because it’s absolutely needed in light of all things Trump. My sister’s puppy versus my arm yesterday:

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Someone is ready to play #officepuppy #babycujo

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2016 • 3:56:44pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

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KGxvi  Apr 5, 2016 • 3:56:56pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s the over/under on open brawling at the convention?

Odds of a brawl (defined as four or more people throwing at least three punches and/or kicks) is currently set at 12:1. Over under for such a fight is the start of the third round of balloting (bets will be taken off if a nominee is determined before the third ballot).

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:03:30pm

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The setting sun illuminates the rugged cliffs of Isla Gualalupe, Mexico. More from @benlowy’s photo essay on shark-diving off the island at nytimes.com. #islaguadalupe #mexico #sharkdiving #travel

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:09:55pm

You guys are right. Apologies…

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:11:54pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

Don’t think that’s going to fly here. Mean spirited trans “humor” is generally frowned upon, regardless of the target.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:11:55pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

Picking on her like that is considered to be transphobic, probably even if it’s an ironic joke. Pick on her insane ideas.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:12:55pm

re: #9 Dave In Austin

I’ve said this before when people have made jokes like this and I’ll say it again: being trans is not an insult and making fun of someone’s appearance like that isn’t really cool.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:14:32pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s the over/under on open brawling at the convention?

Couldn’t pay me to take a bet.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:14:37pm
Trump, who was once adamantly pro-choice, said on Wednesday that “there has to be some form of punishment” for women who have abortions, only to claim later that day that he has never supported such a policy. Then, on Sunday, Trump declared that “we have to leave” current abortion laws in place, only to be again contradicted by his own campaign.

Remember when John Kerry was a waffler?

Simpler times.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:15:16pm

Took it down, Sorry

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Testy Toad T  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:15:54pm

And then we all get to exercise our shiny new refresh buttons!

The future is awesome.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:16:38pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

Right on time.

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Which is nothing but punishing women for being raped.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:16:53pm
“A lot of people thought my answer was excellent, by the way,” he told Pags. “There were a lot of people who thought that was a very good answer.”

MY ANSWERS ARE FANTASTIC, VERY GOOD ANSWERS. I ANSWER QUESTIONS BIGLY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK VERY VERY HIGHLY OF MY CLASSY ANSWERS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:17:20pm

re: #17 Patricia Kayden

Which is nothing but punishing women for being raped.

And makes rape a viable reproductive strategy.

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nines09  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:18:05pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

What’s the over/under on open brawling at the convention?

I foresee street brawls. I think the streets will be punch palace. Not going to be pretty. And of course all the blame will go to “outside of the GOP” trouble makers. If Trump gets blocked, and the thugs he has courted show up, it’s going to be a long night.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:20:30pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

And makes rape a viable reproductive strategy.

THAT’S the part that always gets me. These assholes are in effect actively enabling and encouraging rape as such.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:23:47pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

THAT’S the part that always gets me. These assholes are in effect actively enabling and encouraging rape as such.

Rapists! Ted Cruz wants you to be able to reproduce without all the fuss of consensual sex! No need to gain permission!

///

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr………………….

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:24:00pm

Oh, in regards to my best friend, she doesn’t actually support anyone in the primaries.

She was just sharing things that she liked that she saw on his FB. In addition, she thinks that, even though I am knowledgeable on Politics, it should not be a career for me. Her opinion is that I am too personally involved, with my Imam saying the saying the same thing (though he thought in a while (decades), that might change). The Imam said that in regards to politics, between past treatment I have had from Republicans, and the fact that Norway keeps popping up every so often, that I am a bit damaged.

Imam was contacting someone in Dallas to help me find friends, and also stated that, once I am ready, when it is time to find me someone, he will make sure that I will be having an Imam or Family I am close to looking for someone for me directly. He said this will likely be better, as a lot of people may be put off by the awkward behaviour I can display sometimes.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:27:48pm

Meanwhile at the Academy of Country Music Awards…

Seriously, Miranda Lambert?

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KGxvi  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:27:58pm

re: #16 Testy Toad T

The future is awesome.

Objection!

I have neither a hooverboard nor a flying car. I am also without faster than light travel and knowledge of extraterrestrials. In fact, I don’t even have a jetpack or a robot.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:28:36pm

re: #24 BeachDem

Meanwhile at the Academy of Country Music Awards…

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Seriously, Miranda Lambert?

Dana Loesch is all DAYUM

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Kragar  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:28:37pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:29:22pm

re: #27 Kragar

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O_o

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:30:13pm
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KGxvi  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:30:58pm

re: #27 Kragar

What in the utter fucking fuck did I just read? Because that makes so little sense that I feel like I deserve change.

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danarchy  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:31:36pm

re: #25 KGxvi

Objection!

I have neither a hooverboard nor a flying car. I am also without faster than light travel and knowledge of extraterrestrials. In fact, I don’t even have a jetpack or a robot.

yes but you have access to all the worlds knowledge in your pocket…and cat pics…and porn…and a lot of bullshit that pretends to be knowledge.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:33:18pm

re: #27 Kragar

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Testy Toad T  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:33:25pm

re: #27 Kragar

“Latin American rape culture”

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Republican National Committee Issues Harsh Report on 2012 Election Failings

Nothing included in a new report by the Republican National Committee that analyzes its party’s 2012 election losses is new, but its bluntness shows RNC Chairman Reince Priebus is not interested in glossing over any problems.

“Young voters are increasingly rolling their eyes at what the party represents and many minorities wrongly think that Republicans do not like them or want them in the country,” the report says.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:33:33pm

Ann Coulter: She’s is still an asshole…

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KGxvi  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:34:04pm

re: #31 danarchy

yes but you have access to all the worlds knowledge in your pocket…and cat pics…and porn…and a lot of bullshit that pretends to be knowledge.

“What would you tell someone from 1900 that would most shock them?”
“I have in my pocket a device that allows me access to all of man’s collective knowledge and wisdom… I use it to look at pictures of cats and argue with strangers.”

Also, as much as I enjoy all of you, I’d probably trade the internet for a jetpack.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:35:03pm

re: #31 danarchy

yes but you have access to all the worlds knowledge in your pocket…and cat pics…and porn…and a lot of bullshit that pretends to be knowledge.

You can now get complete horseshit from all corners of the globe INSTANTLY! instead of having to wait weeks or months for that horseshit to arrive by steam ship and overland freight!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:35:43pm

re: #24 BeachDem

How is it even remotely comfortable to have your toes hanging off the edge of the shoe like that?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:36:47pm

re: #34 Dave In Austin

Ann Coulter: She’s is still an asshole…

Did she say if we don’t stop illegal immigrants women will need more abortions because they are going to be raped?

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:36:51pm

re: #34 Dave In Austin

Ann Coulter: She’s is still an asshole…

Because she has to be. What would the person who used to be Ann Coulter do if she ever tried to redeem herself?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:37:01pm

re: #24 BeachDem

I’m so glad Taylor Swift left Country Music.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:37:19pm

re: #38 Dr. Matt

Did she say if we don’t stop illegal immigrants women will need more abortions because they are going to be raped?

Trump’s rapey Mexicans.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:38:23pm

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Every morning, they’re carted by wheelbarrow to a fenced-off forest area for survival classes. They’ll spend the next 7 or more years learning how to climb trees, make a nest of leaves, spot edible forest fruits and avoid predators. Their human minders take pains not to be overly affectionate with their adorable charges. These orphaned #orangutans — endangered apes native to rain forests in the Indonesian regions of Borneo and Sumatra — need to learn to avoid humans in preparation for their return to the jungle. But in Indonesia, their jungle is slowly disappearing. Over the years, thousands of square miles have been cleared for palm oil plantations. Last fall, huge fires — the worst on record — destroyed more than 10,000 square miles of forests. Among the losses: at least 9 orangutans. @kemaljufri traveled to the Borneo Orangutan Survival Foundation in Indonesia while on #nytassignment.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:38:38pm

re: #32 No Country For Old Haters

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On MSNBC? Why are they hosting an outspoken bigot? Did the host push back against her nonsense or let it fly unchallenged?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:38:51pm

My niece just posted this on Facebook:

See the world as it could be, not only as it is…

It is taking an enormous effort of will not to respond with

Except traffic lights. See them as they are, not how they could be. Please.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:39:36pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

My niece just posted this on Facebook:

It is taking an enormous effort of will not to respond with

Oh but you absolutely should.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:40:00pm

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

On MSNBC? Why are they hosting an outspoken bigot? Did the host push back against her nonsense or let it fly unchallenged?

I’m starting to believe that Matthews is airing batshit crazy on MSNBC just to troll the GOP race.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:40:02pm

re: #41 No Country For Old Haters

Trump’s rapey Mexicans.

“And we don’t sugar-coat the pirates, either, Morty! They’re really rapey!”

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Kragar  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:40:16pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:40:27pm

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

On MSNBC? Why are they hosting an outspoken bigot? Did the host push back against her nonsense or let it fly unchallenged?

Who knows? I gave up on MSNBC some time ago. For-profit “news” is one of the worst ideas ever.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:41:08pm

re: #27 Kragar

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Is Coulter now a regular on MSNBC? Seems she spouting shit there several days a week. Gross.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:41:09pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

DO EET!

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:41:35pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

“And we don’t sugar-coat the pirates, either, Morty! They’re really rapey!”

Best show ever.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:42:24pm

re: #45 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Oh but you absolutely should.

Nah. She’s trying to be inspiring and all that. It’s also why I never posted my answer to her numerous inspirational memes…

Where is your god now?
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KGxvi  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:42:58pm

re: #39 No Country For Old Haters

Because she has to be. What would the person who used to be Ann Coulter do if she ever tried to redeem herself?

In no particular order:

1. Write prime time network sit com spec scripts
2. In the tradition of converts being more Catholic than the Pope, become an activist more liberal than Marx
3. Stand up comedy in second tier comedy clubs
4. Star in a sit com where a big city lawyer moves home to a small rural town and runs for mayor
5. Implode due to sheer embarrassment of past statements
6. Be a zombie extra in the Walking Dead

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:44:00pm

re: #37 klys (maker of Silmarils)

How is it even remotely comfortable to have your toes hanging off the edge of the shoe like that?

Hey, when somebody gives you gun shoes, you go with the gun shoes you have, not the gun shoes you wish you had, regardless of how they look or feel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:45:01pm

re: #37 klys (maker of Silmarils)

How is it even remotely comfortable to have your toes hanging off the edge of the shoe like that?

I was gonna say…those are some freaking long toes.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:45:12pm

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

On MSNBC? Why are they hosting an outspoken bigot? Did the host push back against her nonsense or let it fly unchallenged?

I’ve been told this is allowing the free exchange of ideas, and the evil Liberals want to stop free speech. This is how they’re selling Conservatism to young people. No matter that their ideas are bad, destructive, and discredited. Ideas must be exchanged! People have lost their freaking minds.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:46:22pm

re: #52 No Country For Old Haters

Best show ever.

“You gotta push it WAY UP THERE, Morty!”

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:46:23pm

re: #54 KGxvi

In no particular order:

1. Write prime time network sit com spec scripts
2. In the tradition of converts being more Catholic than the Pope, become an activist more liberal than Marx
3. Stand up comedy in second tier comedy clubs
4. Star in a sit com where a big city lawyer moves home to a small rural town and runs for mayor
5. Implode due to sheer embarrassment of past statements
6. Be a zombie extra in the Walking Dead

You made me laugh, but I think it’s 5, and that’s why bad people rarely redeem themselves.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:47:33pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

“You gotta push it WAY UP THERE, Morty!”

In a more innocent time, I thought Venture Bros was extreme. That was before R&M.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:47:33pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

Eh, I would think every once in a while letting a response like that sneak through is okay.

Particularly on this one. >.>

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:48:48pm

re: #55 BeachDem

Hey, when somebody gives you gun shoes, you go with the gun shoes you have, not the gun shoes you wish you had, regardless of how they look or feel.

I’m getting ready to pack for the fancy dinner on the cruise and I’m going to fish out the ballet slipper shoes I got for my wedding. They are a) purple satin and b) essentially are like going barefoot with a thin fabric covering.

I hate formal shoes.

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bratwurst  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:50:20pm

Hey, she shares that in common with a number of people who used to post here!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:51:32pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

You should also watch Virunga on Netflix. Talk about a full swing of emotions.

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scottslemmons  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:52:11pm

Here’s to things that don’t make me feel entirely horrible about the future.

Instagram

Flower or Flame?

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:52:36pm
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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:53:13pm

I’m enjoying Adult Wednesday Adams.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:53:44pm

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

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You can laugh at it, as it tries to better itself by demanding decent pay.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:55:49pm

Evening Lizards. As usual I’ll just lurk around a bit & post if I see an opening. Other than that, what can I say?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:55:50pm

MUST SEE: Worst Somersault EVER!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:56:19pm

re: #69 Bubblehead II

Evening Lizards. As usual I’ll just lurk around a bit & post if I see an opening. Other than that, what can I say?

“shoebox moonpie bandaid”!

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:58:14pm

re: #62 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m getting ready to pack for the fancy dinner on the cruise and I’m going to fish out the ballet slipper shoes I got for my wedding. They are a) purple satin and b) essentially are like going barefoot with a thin fabric covering.

I hate formal shoes.

Somehow, even if they were the most comfortable shoes on the planet, I cannot picture you being drawn to gun shoes.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2016 • 4:59:43pm

re: #14 Testy Toad T

Remember when John Kerry was a waffler?

Simpler times.

Trump was for it before he was against it, before he was for it, before he was against it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:01:09pm

re: #72 BeachDem

Somehow, even if they were the most comfortable shoes on the planet, I cannot picture you being drawn to gun shoes.

Not really.

Although to be fair, I hate shoes too.

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gocart mozart  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:04:44pm

re: #39 No Country For Old Haters

If Coulter got rid of the asshole part of herself, nothing would be left and she would disappear in a puff of smoke.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:05:52pm

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gocart mozart  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:06:03pm

re: #70 GlutenFreeJesus

Ha!

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:09:22pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

And makes rape a viable reproductive strategy.

That is my very favorite point vs. the extreme anti-choice position. Anti abortion types really don’t like this implication of banning abortion in cases of rape.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:09:48pm

re: #77 gocart mozart

I almost expected more!

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Bubblehead II  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:09:55pm

re: #71 GlutenFreeJesus

“shoebox moonpie bandaid”!

Sue will have an orange bouquet. Her right shoe will be brown the, other black.

And John, well he will be covering Sue’s back.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:11:03pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:11:55pm

For weird Trump investigations tune into @buzzfeedandrew

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:12:55pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

For weird Trump investigations tune into @buzzfeedandrew

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I believe he also claimed something about Princess Diana.

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William Lewis  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:13:37pm

re: #76 Amory Blaine

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Bernie and Kloppenburg. I’ll vote for Hillary later.

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:16:13pm

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

On MSNBC? Why are they hosting an outspoken bigot? Did the host push back against her nonsense or let it fly unchallenged?

The real question is why do they keep hosting an outspoken bigot?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:17:22pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

I believe he also claimed something about Princess Diana.

He’s mentally ill.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:17:51pm

And speaking of scary Republican:

(per Charles P. Pierce)

First the intro, because it is a thing of beauty:

Tailgunner Ted Cruz is the candidate of The Bubble. He is the walking symbol of epistemic closure. He is the candidate you vote for to validate all the hours you spent watching the Fox News Channel and listening to the talk radio people, blissfully unaware of the inherent contradictions within and the fundamental absurdity of what you’re being sold. Cruz brags now that his campaign is unifying the Republican Party. “Five of the other candidates who ran against me are now supporting me,” he said. “All the way from them to Mike Lee and Mark Levin, we’ve got the whole spectrum of Republican politics.” Can’t argue with that. The whole spectrum, all the way from A to Aa.

Then the Cruz vuz on rape, which are as or more scary than anything TRUMP has mumbled. (And I love Pierce’s description of Ted getting ready to answer a question

Sentence-like structures ensued.

Rape is a horrific crime against the humanity of the person, and it needs to be punished severely. At the same time, as horrible as that crime is, I don’t believe it is the child’s fault…I don’t believe it makes sense to punish the child.

esquire.com
Fuck. You. Ted. Cruz.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:18:58pm

Good ole Duncan Hunter Jr.

Resident teabag in SD.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:19:36pm

re: #85 Skip Intro

The real question is why do they keep hosting an outspoken bigot?

Look how long, even back in their actual kinda progressive days, they had Pat Buchanan as a regular.

Liberal media my ass.

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:20:51pm

re: #89 BeachDem

They’ve got some real winners on MSNBC. Two of my least favorite people are Chris Matthews and Ann Coulter, and now they’re a team.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:22:04pm

re: #90 Skip Intro

They’ve got some real winners on MSNBC. Two of my least favorite people are Chris Matthews and Ann Coulter, and now they’re a team.

I recommend the Food Network—much more enlightening.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:22:32pm

If you are a nerd, and live within 1600 km of Dallas, you may want to come to the Fan Expo in June.

For Star Trek, you have Shatner, Takei, and Nichols from TOS.

For Doctor Who, you have Capaldi, Coleman, Gomez, Agyeman, and Darvill.

Star Wars? Carrie Fisher and Anthony Daniels.

Also, Kevin Smith, Jason Mewes, and Stan Lee.

Among others.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:24:05pm

re: #92 Ziggy_TARDIS

Did you move to Dallas?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:25:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:26:50pm

I have the biggest, largest, brightest tie!

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:27:41pm

re: #93 Stanley Sea

Moved in February.

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makeitstop  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:28:02pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

I have the biggest, largest, brightest tie!

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It makes his tiny, stumpy hands look even smaller.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:28:07pm

Instagram

Workers at South End Cemetery in East Hampton, NY, April 2016. (@arfotofirst )

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:29:08pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

I rather see Victor Borge’s lllooooonnnnggg tie that he was supposed to wear when he did his act in the nude. (Personally I just think it was part of his act to say that.)

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:29:09pm

re: #97 Ziggy_TARDIS

For job? Good for ya.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:31:37pm

re: #101 Stanley Sea

Ish. Support and school, so I can get a certificate for the field I want to work in.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:32:46pm

re: #102 Ziggy_TARDIS

Ish. Support and school, so I can get a certificate for the field I want to work in.

Good luck. Change is good.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:35:37pm

Well, I came and I saw. I leave you with this.

Evanescence - Lost in Paradise (Lyric Video)

Night Lizared

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:36:41pm

re: #67 No Country For Old Haters

I’m enjoying Adult Wednesday Adams.

And now I’m out of episodes. Web series binges do not last long.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:37:36pm

Flipped on MSNBC for a few minutes, and the exit poll stuff they were showing at the bottom of the screen would seem to be good for Hillary (Dems v. Independents voting; continue Obama policies; Liberal/moderate v. very liberal). I guess we’ll see…

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calochortus  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:39:19pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was gonna say…those are some freaking long toes.

Nah, the heel is so high that the foot has to slide forward when she stands. Her heel is nowhere near the back of her shoe.
The shoes must be incredibly uncomfortable to wear, but I suppose if she is going to be seated most of the time they would merely be incredibly awkward to sit in.

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:39:23pm

re: #87 BeachDem

One lie of many that Ted Cruz relentlessly included in his endless deceit is this business of “5 judges” in relation to Roe v. Wade.

That was a 7-2 decision.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:39:55pm

Instagram

Legendary actor Gregory Peck was born 100 years ago today, April 5, 1916. He is pictured here in 1946 on the beach in Cape Cod. (Eileen Darby—The LIFE Images Collection/Getty Images) #LIFElegends

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:40:44pm

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Flashback to Kuwait, 1991.
Sandwiched between blackened sand and sky, camels search for untainted shrubs and water in the burning oil fields of southern Kuwait. Their desperate foraging reflects the environmental catastrophe of the region ravaged by war.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:42:29pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

MY ANSWERS ARE FANTASTIC, VERY GOOD ANSWERS. I ANSWER QUESTIONS BIGLY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK VERY VERY HIGHLY OF MY CLASSY ANSWERS.

He’ll have so many answers you’ll be tired of listening to him.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:43:15pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

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And Cape Fear is on TCM right now. (That’s a fabulous pic of Peck)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:43:29pm

re: #111 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

He’ll have so many answers you’ll be tired of listening to him.

I’m already tired of listening to him.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:43:31pm

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Hydrangeas. Buenos Aires, Argentina. Alessandra Sanguinetti. 1999.

Part of Spring Blooms, floral themes as explored through the archive images of Magnum photographers. © #AlessandraSanguinetti/#MagnumPhotos

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:44:46pm

Oh, great, Federal Reserve in New York State is going to have a scandal.

In February 2016, instructions to steal US$951 Million from Bangladesh Bank, the central bank of Bangladesh, were issued. Five transactions issued by hackers or insiders worth $101 million from a Bangladesh Bank account at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York succeeded, with $20M traced to Sri Lanka (since recovered) and $81M to the Philippines. The international transfer desk of the intermediate bank, Deustche Bank, blocked a further $850 million in 35 transactions.[1]

Hackers or insiders (it is not yet clear which) attempted to steal $951 million from the Bangladesh central bank’s account with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York sometime between February 4-5 when Bangladesh Bank’s offices were closed. The perpetrators managed to compromise Bangladesh Bank’s system, to observe how transfers are done, and gained access to the bank’s credentials for payment transfers, which they used to send about three dozen requests to the FedBank to transfer funds to Sri Lanka and the Philippines. 35 transactions worth $851 million transfer were prevented by the banking system but five requests were granted; $20M to Sri Lanka (later recovered[6][7]), and $81 million lost to the Philippines, entering the Southeast Asian country’s banking system on February 5, 2016. This money was laundered through casinos and some later transferred to Hong Kong.

FireEye’s Mandiant forensics division is investigating the hacking case. Security experts stated that the perpetrators gained deep knowledge regarding the internal matters of Bangladesh Bank by spying on its workers. The government of Bangladesh is considering suing the Federal Reserve Bank in a bid to recover the stolen funds. The FedBank of New York maintains its systems have not been breached but says they have been working with Bangladesh Bank since the beginning of the incident.[6]

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BongCrodny  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:45:05pm

Letters to Donald, Part 9 (yes, it’s true: I have no life.):

His Honorableness Donald J. Trump
New York, NY

Dear Dr. Trump:

Hi! It’s me again! I wanted to write sooner, but I’ve been busy “serving the Internet,” as the kids call it. I know what they mean! The other day I went on the Internet, and five minutes later it was three days later.

I’m writing again, because, quite frankly, I see what’s going on - you’ve been taking some hits lately, to the point where Ted Cruise is threatening to overtake you in Wisconsin. What the heck is up with those Cheeseheads, anyway? Is it some sort of sinister revenge plot against you for taking Scott Walker out of the Presidential race? (This is just a modest suggestion here, but I’ll bet you could get back on the Wisconites’ good side by promising to ban Velveeta!)

I’ve also noticed that you’ve been taking all these hits since I stopped writing. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the correlation between the two! And I’m not one!
And so I wanted to make a few suggestions for further consideration by your campaign. I wanted to give these to you in person when you were in my town, but you know, “a-n-k-e-l b-r-a-c-e-l-e-t.” (I got one that if I go outside my zone it gives off a wail like a constipated banshee!)

But I’ve got so MANY ideas my neurons are practically screaming to get out of my head, so I thought I’d send a few of them your way. As always, there’s no charge for these. Whatever little roll I can play to help DONALD J. TRUMP get elected is enough for me!

It’s pretty obvious to everyone by now that the hoy polloy are doing whatever they can to steal the nomination away from you. I’m sure I don’t need to tell you that you need to fight back, like you’ve done in your HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of lawsuits!

1) You need to start Tweeting about Paul Ryan, and fast. Like you did with Ted. Wife, kids, dog, they’re all fair game. Just as long as you don’t kill ‘em anything goes! Did you know that he once drove the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile? It’s true! That would have been an AWESOME thing to bring up when you guys were all talking about each other’s penisses.

2) Abortion. It’s a touchy subject, and I don’t see why you should be penalized for having five or six different positions. You just need to keep repeating ALL the positions; then you can just say what politicians usually say when they’re caught like that, that your position is revolving over time .

3) Your rallies. There have been a few “incidents” at some of your rallies that people are getting all bent out of shape over. Obviously, your very well- behaved audience is NOT the problem! So, you should consider at your next big rally to make it Free Frying Pan Night. I can pretty much guarantee that’ll solve the problem. “Free Gun Night” would also work, probably, but it might be overkill.

4) Keep going after the celebrity endorsements. So far you’ve snagged the endorsement of such respected celebrities as Pete Rose, Dennis Rodman, Tila Tequila, Theresa Giuduce, Ted Nugent (ROCK ‘N’ ROLL WANG DANG SWEET POONTANG YEAH!!), Hulk Hogan, Louis Farrakhan, David Duke and Willie Robertson! That’s an AWSOME start! I see that you also got one of the lesser Baldwins. I’m sure it wouldn’t take much effort to work yourself up to Alec. He’s a New Yorker too, and you guys were MADE for each other!

I think that will do it for this time around. It looks like I’ve written onto a second page, which I really didn’t want to do, but I just couldn’t decide which idea was the least greatest. The guy down at the store told me that if you write too much you could run out of font, and believe me, that’s the last thing I want to do!

Your #2 Fan,
Bong J. Crodny

P.S. Vote Donald - and think “V.D.!”

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:46:49pm

re: #116 BongCrodny

rofl.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:48:14pm

Just because.

Paul Mauriat - Love is Blue (HQ)

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:49:55pm

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Goodmorning! Those who study freediving learn that the perception of our need to breathe so often can be overcome by a calm mind and a feeling of connectedness with the water. With practice, we can override the urge to draw in a deep breath after only a few seconds, and extend our stay beneath the surface to minutes at a time. Discovering this head space is a door to a special kind of freedom - one where we have time to stay and play in a world where movements are possible that we could never manage on land. #swimmers #underwater #pool
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This is Heather Perry @heathfish and I’m sharing two photographic series on @lensculture this week. We’ll spend the first few days underwater with people like me who just have to #swim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:50:27pm
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Reality Based Steve  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:50:50pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

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Mississippi, even worse than you imagined.

Mississippi RV park owner evicts interracial couple

BLUF: Married couple, she is Native American/Latino and he’s Black. He’s a SGT in the National Guard. Moved into an RV park, she had done the paperwork, but were evicted once the manager found out they were an interracial couple.

TUPELO — A Mississippi RV park owner evicted an interracial couple because of the color of their skin.

“Me and my husband, not ever in 10 years have we experienced any problem,” said Erica Flores Dunahoo, who is Hispanic and Native American and whose husband, a National Guardsman, is African-American. “Nobody’s given us dirty looks. This is our first time.”

More than a half-century after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 barred discrimination on the basis of race, Gene Baker acknowledged asking the interracial couple to leave his RV park near Tupelo.

Baker, who lives in Aberdeen, said he only did it because “the neighbors were giving me such a problem.”

Living in Tennessee, you can understand why our unofficial state motto is “Thank God For Mississippi”.

RBS

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:51:30pm

He’s blackmailing these people

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:57:22pm

re: #116 BongCrodny

i think it was cab calloway who first said “hoy hoy!”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 5, 2016 • 5:59:28pm

exit polls reveal 89% of voters wish this fucking election had an exit

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:00:39pm

I was about to write a comment saying that Sanders wasn’t asked specifically about the Newtown massacre when he said gun manufacturers should be protected from lawsuits.

But then I read the full transcript of the NY Daily News interview, and yes, he really was asked specifically about that case.

Daily News: There’s a case currently waiting to be ruled on in Connecticut. The victims of the Sandy Hook massacre are looking to have the right to sue for damages the manufacturers of the weapons. Do you think that that is something that should be expanded?

Sanders: Do I think the victims of a crime with a gun should be able to sue the manufacturer, is that your question?

Daily News: Correct.

Sanders: No, I don’t.

Daily News: Let me ask you. I know we’re short on time. Two quick questions. Your website talks about…

Sanders: No, let me just…I’m sorry. In the same sense that if you’re a gun dealer and you sell me a gun and I go out and I kill him [gestures to someone in room]…. Do I think that that gun dealer should be sued for selling me a legal product that he misused? [Shakes head no.] But I do believe that gun manufacturers and gun dealers should be able to be sued when they should know that guns are going into the hands of wrong people. So if somebody walks in and says, “I’d like 10,000 rounds of ammunition,” you know, well, you might be suspicious about that. So I think there are grounds for those suits, but not if you sell me a legal product.

This is bad thinking.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:01:33pm

I shaved. First time I’ve had no facial hair in over two years.

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joe90  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:01:37pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Based on a Gottfried Lindauer portrait of Tamati Waka Nene.

teara.govt.nz

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:02:19pm

re: #113 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m already tired of listening to him.

That’s the joke.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:02:26pm

Instagram

This past weekend, @bdentonphoto traveled to Palmyra, Syria, to see what remained of its archaeological treasures after almost a year of ISIS control. He joined a group of Hezbollah militiamen, who were eager to show that their group had helped rescue Palmyra, a site important to world heritage. “Where Palmyra’s impressive Temple of Bel once stood, only a single stone archway was left to frame a rectangle of blue sky above the arid desert about 160 miles northeast of Damascus, the capital,” @bdentonphoto writes. He continues: “Amid the ruins, we heard repeated booms emanating from the city center, where plumes of smoke and dust rose into the desert sky. My Hezbollah escort and Syrian soldiers explained that explosive-disposal teams were clearing mines left behind by retreating Islamic State fighters.”

To see more photos from #Palmyra, visit the link in our profile.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:04:17pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

Looking clean CV.

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majii  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:04:20pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

It’s more like awful thinking. Reading it made my already aching headache worse. It appears that he’s trying to straddle the fence to avoid giving an answer that makes sense.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:04:25pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

I shaved. First time I’ve had no facial hair in over two years.

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JESUS CHRIST! Grow it back, man, for the love of God!!!

/// x 10^23.

Really, just kidding!

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:04:38pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

I shaved. First time I’ve had no facial hair in over two years.

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Does your face feel cold?

RBS

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:04:41pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

That hurts.

But equally irreplaceable are all the lives being lost there too.

Ugh, it’s just all horrible.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:05:15pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:05:46pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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ISIS, you know how bad they are when Hezbollah are the good guys.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:07:12pm

re: #123 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i think it was cab calloway who first said “hoy hoy!”

Demosthenese, before he cured his stutter.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:07:33pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Looking clean CV.

I look seven years younger!

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

JESUS CHRIST! Grow it back, man, for the love of God!!!

/// x 10^23.

Really, just kidding!

The bad part is I won’t be able to do this:

Oh well, ski season is almost over anyways.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:08:34pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

I shaved. First time I’ve had no facial hair in over two years.

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you look just like me except for the face and the hair

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:09:14pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

I shaved. First time I’ve had no facial hair in over two years.

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Just FYI, that thing in the middle is what is known as a “chin”. You’ll get used to it being there after a while.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:10:17pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Tears for our history.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:10:31pm

I am 12 years old on the inside.

FART WINTER OLYMPICS // MEN’S MOGULS

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Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:11:28pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

I was about to write a comment saying that Sanders wasn’t asked specifically about the Newtown massacre when he said gun manufacturers should be protected from lawsuits.

But then I read the full transcript of the NY Daily News interview, and yes, he really was asked specifically about that case.

This is bad thinking.

Sorry, but don’t agree. When a manufacturer makes a product that gets criminally abused they should not face liability. Not cars, boats, guns or anything else. Not poison, not fertilizer or diesel oil. It’s a workaround on failed gun control, and as such awkward and inappropriate precedent.

“Just because it’s alcohol” “Just because it’s a gun” Nope. Maybe the seller. Not the maker.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:13:25pm

re: #143 Great White Snark

Sorry, but don’t agree. When a manufacturer makes a product that gets criminally abused they should not face liability. Not cars, boats, guns or anything else. Not poison, not fertilizer or diesel oil. It’s a workaround on failed gun control, and as such awkward and inappropriate precedent.

“Just because it’s alcohol” “Just because it’s a gun” Nope. Maybe the seller. Not the maker.

“Product functioned as intended, human beings now dead.”

Probably the only industry that works for.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:13:34pm

Any lone seen any exit polls on the Dem side yet?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:14:17pm

At what point can we hold gun manufacturers liable for the NRA?

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b_sharp  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:14:20pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

I shaved. First time I’ve had no facial hair in over two years.

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That scared the hell out of me.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:14:29pm

with zero percent reporting, we know nothing

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:15:17pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Looking clean CV.

re: #133 Reality Based Steve

Does your face feel cold?

RBS

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

JESUS CHRIST! Grow it back, man, for the love of God!!!

/// x 10^23.

Really, just kidding!

I just did a page with a poll.

littlegreenfootballs.com

I had hoped the hot photo would’ve shown up on the page list, but I never pay attention to the instructions.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:15:18pm

re: #145 MsJ

Apparently some are out there, but I haven’t clicked through to see.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:15:34pm

Lurk mode on. Sleep well Lizards. And as usual.

May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

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:-)

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:16:03pm

re: #131 majii

It’s more like awful thinking. Reading it made my already aching headache worse. It appears that he’s trying to straddle the fence to avoid giving an answer that makes sense.

I don’t see it that way. As long as the manufacture and sale of a gun is legal and there is no reason to suspect funny business with a sale (e.g., obvious straw sale etc), then neither the maker nor the seller should be legally liable if the purchaser commits a crime with the gun, IMO.

I’m no fan of US gun culture, but I think it better to tackle the issue head on via heavier restrictions on what can be legal to own/use and better record keeping than by introducing a significantly unpleasant and novel concept of vicarious liability.

I realize that nothing is going to happen, but this vicarious liability stuff seems more likely to fuel NRA propaganda than it is to do anything useful. Should we hold Honda liable if one of its vehicles is used to perpetrate a vehicular homicide?

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Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:16:07pm

re: #144 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“Product functioned as intended, human beings now dead.”

Probably the only industry that works for.

99. something percent of the time, (perhaps outside of the military) guns are not used at all, just in target shooting or hunting. One can acknowledge the nature of the tool but then should also recognize the most common uses by far.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:16:34pm

re: #146 klys (maker of Silmarils)

At what point can we hold gun manufacturers liable for the NRA?

Never, because that’s fucking stupid, according to Jonah “Doughy Pantload” Goldberg.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:17:43pm

re: #150 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Thank you!

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:18:03pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

I just did a page with a poll.

littlegreenfootballs.com

I had hoped the hot photo would’ve shown up on the page list, but I never pay attention to the instructions.

To make the picture appear on the Page and Front Page, click on “Upload Meta Image”.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:19:48pm

Evening lizards! Watching the polls in WI.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:20:26pm

re: #156 teleskiguy

To make the picture appear on the Page and Front Page, click on “Upload Meta Image”.

TY

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:20:57pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

I just did a page with a poll.

littlegreenfootballs.com

I had hoped the hot photo would’ve shown up on the page list, but I never pay attention to the instructions.

You could have used with beard/without beard pics of Rage Furby, in which case, the vote would have been “none of the above.” Thank you for not doing that.

I couldn’t vote—to me it depends on the face and depends on the beard.

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:21:09pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

Well, the NRA is worse than guns, so it make more sense to go after the gun makers for subversive agitation via the NRA than it does to impose vicarious product liability for crimes committed by customers.

However, these are both mere campfire tales for those who know that this issue is hopeless.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:21:59pm

re: #160 EPR-radar

However, these are both mere campfire tales for those who know that this issue is hopeless.

Ayup.

Ugh.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:22:42pm

???

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:23:53pm

re: #153 Great White Snark

99. something percent of the time, (perhaps outside of the military) guns are not used at all, just in target shooting or hunting. One can acknowledge the nature of the too but then should also recognize the most common uses by far.

Hunting = killing things.

Target shooting = making sure you either hit what you’re trying to kill or don’t hit what you’re not trying to kill.

Guns, as a tool, have one purpose. More efficient killing. I can acknowledge that because I don’t have an emotional attachment to them as a hobby.

It really is the only industry where people die - regularly - as a result of the product being used as intended and yet we do diddly-squat about it. Meanwhile, one child ends up in the hospital over a toy and they’re all recalled and the manufacturer could very well be liable. Hell, look at where cigarettes are now.

Do I think these lawsuits have much chance of succeeding? Not really. But I think the claims deserve to be heard and blanket immunity is idiotic.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:23:58pm

Well, The Donald™ will unleash his birther madness starting tomorrow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:24:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:25:35pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

Well, The DonaldTM will unleash his birther madness starting tomorrow.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:26:38pm

If you thought Berniestans were insufferable yesterday, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:28:46pm

re: #143 Great White Snark

I kind of split the difference. I see no real reason why gun manufacturers should have absolute immunity from lawsuits under the law when car manufacturers don’t. On the other and I don’t think illegal use should result in a judgement by itself.

Take Paul Walker’s daughter’s suit against Porsche, it was allowed to go forward and a Judge ruled Porsche not at fault. In order to win the complaint had to prove that Porsche had created the car in a way that subverted the regulatory scheme. The courts would presumably hold the same standard in any firearm manufacturer lawsuit.

In fact prior to the federal immunity law that’s how we got many improvements to firearm safety like the transfer bar and cross bolt safety mechanisms, loaded chamber indicators and magazine disconnects. These lawsuit resultant safety improvements annoyed many purists but undoubtedly prevented some accidental discharges and some people are certainly still alive as a result.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:36:47pm

re: #148 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

with zero percent reporting, we know nothing

Other than that it’s going to be an embarrassment for Republicans.

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Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:36:57pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Unless you are a vegetarian, an animal dies for your meat. Hunting is a completely legit need for a gun, especially where subsidence hunting is what feeds you. Target shooting is a sport no more related to killing that some Olympic sports. Javelin etc.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:38:40pm

re: #170 Great White Snark

The word you want is subsistence. Not subsidence.

Again, I have no emotional attachment to the need to have a gun. I see no reason why people should not be able to have them with the appropriate restrictions.

I do object to the current situation, as it presents a public health issue.

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Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:44:38pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

I kind of split the difference. I see no real reason why gun manufacturers should have absolute immunity from lawsuits under the law when car manufacturers don’t. On the other and I don’t think illegal use should result in a judgement by itself.

Take Paul Walker’s daughter’s suit against Porsche, it was allowed to go forward and a Judge ruled Porsche not at fault. In order to win the complaint had to prove that Porsche had created the car in a way that subverted the regulatory scheme. The courts would presumably hold the same standard in any firearm manufacturer lawsuit.

In fact prior to the federal immunity law that’s how we got many improvements to firearm safety like the transfer bar and cross bolt safety mechanisms, loaded chamber indicators and magazine disconnects. These lawsuit resultant safety improvements annoyed many purists but undoubtedly prevented some accidental discharges and some people are certainly still alive as a result.

The innate unfairness of such a claim is what should protect them all. Cars, guns, trucks used in bombs etc. Gun maker liability is a rather obvious bullshit workaround proposed only because actual legislative criminal rules have not been passed or enforced well. Shall we hold Glock or Smith and Wesson accountable when a young black kid is wrongly killed by a policeman? Why not, if maker liability can be invented out of thin air over criminal misuse.

Expecting Sanders a Senator from a very rural state to share Manhattan city or California legislature style gun control policy is nonsensical. Even the bird knew better than that.

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BongCrodny  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:47:37pm

Wonder how the Donald is going to explain how Kasich is keeping him down when his and Kasich’s totals together don’t equal Cruz’s.

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Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:48:17pm

re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The word you want is subsistence. Not subsidence.

Again, I have no emotional attachment to the need to have a gun. I see no reason why people should not be able to have them with the appropriate restrictions.

I do object to the current situation, as it presents a public health issue.

Right spell check fail on my part. We agree the violence must be reduced. We see how to do that very differently. I’m not throwing up my hands and giving up in the face of the likes of the NRA or due to opposite extreme proposals like a new background check every time I buy a bullet. (Proposed by Gavin Newsom here in Ca) Sensible solutions are available, it’s on us to pass and enforce them.

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:52:10pm

re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The word you want is subsistence. Not subsidence.

Again, I have no emotional attachment to the need to have a gun. I see no reason why people should not be able to have them with the appropriate restrictions.

I do object to the current situation, as it presents a public health issue.

And the NRA has pretty much kept the CDC from studying the issue. In the last debate, I thought Bernie’s answer was even stupider—i.e., if you put restrictions on gun manufacturers, you’ll drive them out of the US.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2016 • 6:59:17pm

Ted Cruz is freaking slime.

Why does he always smile his creepy “I just may be handing you a load of bullshit” smile and little tee-hee-hee laugh after every oh-so-dramatic statement out of his mouth. It just smacks of insincerity.

Apparently it works for Wisconsin.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2016 • 7:14:11pm

re: #153 Great White Snark

99. something percent of the time, (perhaps outside of the military) guns are not used at all, just in target shooting or hunting. One can acknowledge the nature of the tool but then should also recognize the most common uses by far.

Why is a handgun/pistol/revolver one of the most commonly used tools used in crime?

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2016 • 7:17:12pm

re: #177 ObserverArt

Why is a handgun/pistol/revolver one of the most commonly used tools used in crime?

Also the preferred tool for suicide.

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Great White Snark  Apr 5, 2016 • 7:19:14pm

re: #177 ObserverArt

Why is a handgun/pistol/revolver one of the most commonly used tools used in crime?

Dual use dilemma.

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ObserverArt  Apr 5, 2016 • 7:31:33pm

re: #174 Great White Snark

Right spell check fail on my part. We agree the violence must be reduced. We see how to do that very differently. I’m not throwing up my hands and giving up in the face of the likes of the NRA or due to opposite extreme proposals like a new background check every time I buy a bullet. (Proposed by Gavin Newsom here in Ca) Sensible solutions are available, it’s on us to pass and enforce them.

I think it is too safe to utter those words in the face of the facts that it almost assured that nothing as far as regulation and enforcement is probably ever going to happen. I think those are just excuses backed by the fact that nothing is being done. But that is my opinion. I do think you know that though. So in that light it is easy just to say we need to do something when we do nothing.

Would you be up for going into a home of a gun owner that took his pistol and shot and killed family members and explaining all those points to the remaining family and friends? And if not, why not?

You have all your statistics to back you up.

And would you face the same type of problems explaining the statistics of cars to a family that was killed in a car accident? If not, why not?

All the statistics are the for cars too.

I would suggest the people affected are not going to buy the common use argument that guns are not used to kill humans. Especially pistols/handguns/revolvers.

And speaking of handguns. Why did the police have to go to semi-auto pistols when they used to use revolvers? Could it be the common use of pistols increased the odds against them on the streets? Why is that? They aren’t defending themselves from hunters and target shooters.

By the way…you know I am a car lover. I am offended when cars are compared to guns. Deaths in cars happen in completely different ways. I can’t drive my car into a bank, jewlery or convenience store and use it to force them to give me all their money.

Why is that?


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