Wednesday Night Short: A Small Escape

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Winner of best animation at Sveriges Kortfilmfestival (Sweden’s Short Film Festival) 2016.

A short film about a pair of scissors trying to escape a kitchen.

Sound and music by Oskar Vallinder.
The posters on the wall in the third room are made by Amanda Berglund and Erik Kirtley.
Swedish title: Den lilla flykten

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:09:36pm

Looks like the Dutch sold out Ukraine to Russia.

The results, while not official yet, show voters solidly rejecting the approval of the Association Agreement with 61.1 percent and turnout reaching over the 30 percent threshold for the referendum to be valid.

Not proud of my Dutch Heritage right now.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:18:21pm

So I get home and open the Twitter’s and see Bernie has gone full metal wingnut against Hillary.

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prairiefire  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:19:33pm

re: #2 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

The clash of steel against steel!

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:21:25pm

On a Side not my wife got back from her trip and got to try the salsa I made over the weekend. She’s already eaten two jars on her own…

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:25:18pm

Instagram

@griffpost dropping into the abyss while filming in #Kashmir last month. It’s almost impossible to comprehend how big these mountains are. The photos don’t do them justice. Photo: @ianmcintosh // #tgronlocation #TGRturns21 @kaestleski @thenorthface @smithoptics

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:25:50pm

re: #2 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So this is what Clinton said about Sanders: “I think he hasn’t done his homework and he’s been talking for more than a year about doing things that he obviously hadn’t really studied or understood”.

I understand that’s a pretty good swipe. I’ve said something similar to my kids who tell me they already know a topic and then do poorly on a test. And of course she’s going to imply she’d be better at the job than him. But his reaction is very defensive.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:29:07pm

re: #6 Belafon

She was spot on. Bernie is clueless.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:29:15pm

re: #6 Belafon

If he relied on Weaver to tell him about that Scarborough interview instead of watching it himself, (maybe the only excuse for his saying she stated he was unqualified) there’s another example of him not doing his homework.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:29:54pm

Got a question for the gang. I bought an extra lithium ion battery for my Nikon DSLR. I bought it at Batteries Plus, not at a camera store. The guy that sold me the battery told me to be sure to charge it (duh) before using it. But he said to do something I’ve never heard before.

He said to leave it on the charger for up to 12 hours…which would be probably 10 hours more than the usual 2 hour time my original battery takes to charge on the charger that came with the camera (when the charger light stops flashing).

He said it “maps” the battery for a longer more efficient charge after the first charge and would make the battery hold a longer charge. Or, something.

I don’t want to blow it up either…so I am being cautious with new info.

I’ve done a little searching on the ‘net to see if I can find confirmation on this thinking, but have not seen anything.

For the cost of the new battery (YIKES!) I want to make sure I get all out of it I can.

I told the guy I had never heard that, and that where I bought the camera and the camera instructions never said anything like that. His answer: We are battery specialists and not a camera store.

Any thoughts?

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:30:19pm
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Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:30:53pm

re: #1 Ziggy_TARDIS

Looks like the Dutch sold out Ukraine to Russia.

Not proud of my Dutch Heritage right now.

Not really really a ‘sellout’ so much as the referendum went the way it did because most of those voting in it saw no benefit in closer ties to Ukraine and in fact saw it as liable to have sizable costs to them. They felt the deal was not to their advantage and so they rejected it.

It didn’t help that the Panama Papers hit the referendum with direct allegations of corruption against Ukrainian PM Poroshenko. That was a massive ‘October Surprise’.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:33:48pm

re: #11 Great White Snark

I saw that.

It would be funny if that fascist WIlders was found to be squirreling money away too.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:43:00pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

I did some searching, and with the Li-Ion batteries, leaving it charged for a long time initially is useful for the device containing the battery. Because these batteries are designed to keep a steady voltage, the detector needs to read the power off of the battery to be able to figure out how long it actually has. This is the “calibration” that the initial long charge is trying to provide. See the comments in the first answer in this: android.stackexchange.com.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:44:32pm

re: #13 Ziggy_TARDIS

I saw that.

It would be funny if that fascist WIlders was found to be squirreling money away too.

Unlikely, if for no other reason than he simply isn’t rich enough to have done that.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:46:32pm

re: #15 Dark_Falcon

Unlikely, if for no other reason than he simply isn’t rich enough to have done that.

I get the feeling that the people who have the kind of money or influence you would have to have to play in this world would laugh Trump out of their circles.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:50:35pm

re: #16 Belafon

I get the feeling that the people who have the kind of money or influence you would have to have to play in this world would laugh Trump out of their circles.

No, he’s got enough money to gain entry. But I don’t expect to find his name in the Panama Papers, since it doesn’t look like the law firm in question did business with Americans. Ihey may have felt the risks were too high.

Edited as I was wrong.

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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:52:52pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

it doesn’t look like the law firm in question did business with Americans. they may have felt the risks were too high.

Wrong. Very wrong.

The names of hundreds of Americans have surfaced in the Panama Papers, including a handful of U.S. businessmen accused or convicted by U.S. authorities for ties to financial crimes or Ponzi schemes.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:54:23pm
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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 8:54:47pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

No, he’s got enough money to gain entry. But I don’t expect to find his name in the Panama Papers, since it doesn’t look like the law firm in question did business with Americans. they may have felt the risks were too high.

I was just using him as a bar. I don’t think he’s on the list, nor would anyone be whose comparable to him. It would probably take Koch level money and influence to even be alooked at the table. And once again, I don’t know if they are, just using them as a bar.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:05:47pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:06:53pm

Just came across a nice article that hints Bernie’s biggest problem may well be his listening to Jeff Weaver his adviser.

bluenationreview.com - SCORCHED: Bernie’s Campaign Manager Throws a Bomb About Hillary and Young Voters

The enlarged heading paragraph nicely says what is going on…

There are two ways campaigns handle the prospect of defeat. Either they behave graciously in the interest of party unity or they get vindictive. It appears the Sanders campaign is choosing the latter course, rapidly moving into scorched earth territory in their contest with Hillary.

The main point of the article…

Video

First, Weaver is lying when he says Hillary has “dissed” young voters. She has not. Second, implying that young voters wouldn’t support Hillary over Trump or Cruz is outrageous. And profoundly reckless. (In that same interview, Weaver insisted that Bernie is taking his campaign all the way to the convention.)

Clearly, the Sanders campaign has determined that harsh attack politics are the way to go. I’ve said this before and I’ll repeat:

A funny thing happens to people who think they can take down Hillary Clinton by assailing her character: they end up with their own reputations in tatters.

I think Weaver is the biggest problem in the Sander’s campaign. He has worked with Bernie a long time. He seems to be in Bernie’s ear about getting nasty.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:07:07pm

PLL, here’s something concerning Libya you might want to read.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:10:36pm

re: #22 ObserverArt

Remember when people here were worried that Clinton would bring back her old advisors?

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:19:58pm

re: #14 Belafon

I did some searching, and with the Li-Ion batteries, leaving it charged for a long time initially is useful for the device containing the battery. Because these batteries are designed to keep a steady voltage, the detector needs to read the power off of the battery to be able to figure out how long it actually has. This is the “calibration” that the initial long charge is trying to provide. See the comments in the first answer in this: android.stackexchange.com.

Thanks. But I admit I am still a tad confused. I always fully charge the Li-Ion batteries to a full charge. To me that means allowing the battery to remain on the charger until the charger indicates it is fully charged. That is indicated by the flashing light going solid is it not?

What the battery store guy said was to go way beyond when the charge indicator light stops flashing. He said to do this for the very first time you charge the new battery…not to do it every time.

As I said the original battery (already in use) seems to be fully charged after about 2 hours if it has been run down to almost no charge left in it as shown when the camera gives me a ‘battery low” indication warning.

I just find no one saying to leave a fully charged battery on the charger for up to 10 hours more after the indicator light goes out… the first time it is ever charged.

I’d be worried about it heating up too much and ruining the battery or blowing it up.

I have found similar comments and recommendations to what you found. I have found nothing close to what this guy told me. I am thinking it may be magic woo.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:26:46pm
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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:29:04pm

re: #17 Dark_Falcon

No, he’s got enough money to gain entry.

Doubtful. Trump’s estimates of his wealth are bullshit, and even then most of it isn’t liquid. How would you run the estimated value of the “Trump” brand through an offshore bank?

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:32:53pm

BAM! POW! BOOM!

Most horrifying skiing crash reel I’ve ever seen. Only serious injury incurred is a broken nose. WARNING: Not for the squeamish.

Paradise Waits - Crash Reel

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:33:58pm

I think I’ll go with this article on Li-Ion battery charging…

Rechargeable Battery Problems: Overcharging, Leaving It Plugged In

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* * *

Does it seem like your thingie isn’t holding its charge as long as it used to, or like a full charge doesn’t give you as many hours of use as it used to? Does it seem like your last thingie died a lot sooner than you expected? It’s recently come to my attention that many folks don’t know two crucial things about charging their devices with rechargeable batteries, and that’s where the trouble begins.

DON’T OVERCHARGE

Rechargeable batteries lose a little bit of their holding capacity every time they’re overcharged. By “overcharged”, I mean when they’re plugged into an outlet for charging beyond the time it takes to fully recharge the battery.

**UPDATE 1/23/14** To anyone who’s thinking it’s not possible to damage a rechargeable Lithium Ion battery by leaving it plugged in too long, see this DMM post, where I discuss the difference between what’s technically correct about Li-ion batteries vs. real-life usage and performance, using the Boeing Dreamliner battery fires of 2013-14 as an example of real-life Li-ion battery failures due to overheating.

Plenty of people are in the habit of plugging in their device at night before bed and leaving it plugged in all night. DON’T DO IT! Even a fully-drained rechargeable battery should take six hours or less (usually, MUCH less) to reach a full charge, so leaving your thingie plugged in all night pretty much guarantees you’re overcharging* the battery.

*4/27/13 UPDATE: based on a comment made by a reader, I’ll clarify that where I say “overcharge”, I’m referring to damage caused both by what electrical engineers technically consider “overcharging” AND the overheating that can occur when certain types of rechargeable batteries are left charging longer than is necessary. Both types of damage are caused by leaving a rechargeable battery plugged in to charge for too long, so for simplicity’s sake I’m referring to both as “overcharging”. If you want the technical nitty-gritty, scroll down to my lengthy reply in the comments section below this post.

This practice reduces the capacity of your rechargeable battery bit by bit, meaning that a full charge lasts a little shorter each time you recharge, and since rechargeable batteries can only be recharged so many times, it’s also reducing the life of your battery overall.

For devices where the battery can’t easily be replaced, this practice means you’ll have to buy a new device that much sooner, too.

Some manufacturers have started making charger stations with a built-in timer that stops charging after a set period of time, usually about 4.5 hours. That may solve your overcharging problem, but it doesn’t address the problem of paying for the electricity the charger continues to draw from the outlet even when it’s not charging anything.

Thanks for your input Belafon! You kept me looking…

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:38:45pm
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retired cynic  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:40:42pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

The son of some friends works up there. Not sure he is a professional skier, but he lives to ski. Scares his parents to pieces!

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Jenner7  Apr 6, 2016 • 9:59:18pm

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie….

He’s stepped in it now, but seems to be doubling down. Very disappointing.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:00:27pm

re: #32 Jenner7

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie….

He’s stepped in it now, but seems to be doubling down. Very disappointing.

This about his response to the question about whether he’d apologize to victims of Sandy Hook?

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Jenner7  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:02:31pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

No, his lie that she said he was unqualified, followed by saying she was unqualified.

But that one too. He’s stepping in more than one pile of shit lately.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:05:07pm

re: #31 retired cynic

The son of some friends works up there. Not sure he is a professional skier, but he lives to ski. Scares his parents to pieces!

I was 12 when this happened. I raced in a giant slalom, the gates were still bamboo in those days. My mom watched, it was the first time she had seen her only son race on skis for real.

I skied okay, was late on some of the tougher gates. I get to the finish line and my mom is just livid. Shrieking! “That is so dangerous!” On and on.

She bought me a helmet that afternoon, my first skiing helmet. I was not required to wear a helmet for races in those days.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:05:21pm

Crash and Bern, baby!

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Viscous Obama  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:06:32pm

Dude, Bernie, not like this.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:08:12pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

If you’re worried about it, you could do it during the day - monitor the battery temperature as you go about stuff and if you feel it’s getting too warm after a suitable period, disconnect it.

The difference is probably on the small side anyway.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:08:33pm

re: #34 Jenner7

No, his lie that she said he was unqualified, followed by saying she was unqualified.

But that one too. He’s stepping in more than one pile of shit lately.

His campaign’s gone into a tailspin. The question now is how much damage is it going to do when he hits the ground. His behavior so far does not lend itself to the idea that he’s going to take losing the nomination with grace and dignity, or that he’s going to put it all behind him at the convention to throw his endorsement and support behind Hillary.

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Jenner7  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:10:19pm

Sorry if posted before, too lazy to check. But, this is what I meant by doubling down on unqualified remark.

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Viscous Obama  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:10:48pm

Doesn’t really help Bernie’s cause that he accepted $10,000 from HillaryPAC back in 2008. At least he saved her the trouble of going hard negative first.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:11:26pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Political scientist Targetpractice, folks.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:16:09pm

re: #34 Jenner7

No, his lie that she said he was unqualified, followed by saying she was unqualified.

He didn’t just say she said it though, in the way one often does leaving wiggle room for paraphrasing and interpretation. He said:

“She has been saying lately that she thinks that I am quote unquote not qualified to be president,”

That’s nothing less than an overt lie. She said nothing of the sort, let alone anything that one might arguably infer to carry the same meaning or sentiment. As lies go that’s simply Orwellian in scope. I’m so fucking stunned by how baseless it was that, in conjunction with his NYDN interview I honestly wonder if he isn’t actually somewhat senile. I actually kind of want senility to be the answer, because otherwise the degree of bad faith on display has me genuinely afraid of how he would govern if he actually became President.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:23:22pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

His campaign’s gone into a tailspin. The question now is how much damage is it going to do when he hits the ground. His behavior so far does not lend itself to the idea that he’s going to take losing the nomination with grace and dignity, or that he’s going to put it all behind him at the convention to throw his endorsement and support behind Hillary.

His fans can open a bakery. Over at kos, they’re turning themselves into some very intricate pretzels.

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Kragar  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:24:06pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:25:09pm

Hey Bernie?
You’re doing the ‘passive-aggressive’ thing all wrong.
Mainly the passive part.
/Trollolol

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:25:45pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

He didn’t just say she said it though, in the way one often does leaving wiggle room for paraphrasing and interpretation. He said:

That’s nothing less than an overt lie. She said nothing of the sort, let alone anything that one might arguably infer to carry the same meaning or sentiment. As lies go that’s simply Orwellian in scope. I’m so fucking stunned by how baseless it was that, in conjunction with his NYDN interview I honestly wonder if he isn’t actually somewhat senile. I actually kind of want senility to be the answer, because otherwise the degree of bad faith on display has me genuinely afraid of how he would govern if he actually became President.

And he’s using it as a fundraising appeal. Talk about doubling down.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:31:11pm

re: #47 BeachDem

And he’s using it as a fundraising appeal. Talk about doubling down.

Not the first time, and I seriously doubt it will be the last. For a guy who makes a lot of noise about the corrupting influence of money, the man certainly does seem to love raising as much of it as he can.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:31:13pm

I have a hard time seeing how someone who has served as Secretary of State and a Senator, as well as being the spouse of a President and seeing the job from a completely unique perspective that no other candidate has ever offered, could possibly be described as unqualified.

But that’s just me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:32:11pm

re: #49 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Okay, well, I can understand. It’s because she’s lacking a dick, and therefore unqualified, LOL, amirite?

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retired cynic  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:33:19pm

re: #40 Jenner7

[Embedded content]

Sorry if posted before, too lazy to check. But, this is what I meant by doubling down on unqualified remark.

I could really be wrong, but I think the connection to the Panama Papers is that she is supposed to have worked on trade deals while SoS, when she would be working on President Obama’s plans. That is sure tenuous to the point of being flat wrong.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:34:21pm

re: #49 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have a hard time seeing how someone who has served as Secretary of State and a Senator, as well as being the spouse of a President and seeing the job from a completely unique perspective that no other candidate has ever offered, could possibly be described as unqualified.

But that’s just me.

Well, you see, she’s unqualified to be President because she’s done all that, plus basically support everything Obama has done, and vote for the AUMF for the Iraq War.

OTOH, 30 undistinguished years in Congress and the Senate - THAT is qualified!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:35:10pm

Apparently there’s some new rule or something in baseball.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2016 • 10:42:25pm

Arrow Spoilers Ahead…

Laurel Lance. Who’da thunk it?

Well, they did give her a lot of screen time last week, and had her telling Ollie she was there for him when Felicity dumped him. Then she got a promotion, and had everything to live for…

With all that, she became what we in my family call ‘Ensign Deadmeat’ after the guy in ‘Hot Shots’, who played the Goose character, who inevitably dies after telling everyone how great his life is.

I’m gonna assume that Ollie will no longer be holding in the darkness.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:02:48pm

They call me…

Theadkiller!!!

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:03:49pm

re: #55 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m still writing.

And being grouchy, and doing my best to avoid friendly fire.

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retired cynic  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:03:53pm

re: #55 Blind Frog Belly White

They call me…

Theadkiller!!!

And a mighty fine job you did of it, too!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:09:48pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:21:19pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

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retired cynic  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:29:59pm

re: #59 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s the one I thought they were referring to, also, and I don’t see that it says what the Sanders’ team is saying it says. But it’s late, and I may be confused.

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retired cynic  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:29:59pm

re: #59 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s the one I thought they were referring to, also, and I don’t see that it says what the Sanders’ team is saying it says. But it’s late, and I may be confused.

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retired cynic  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:29:59pm

re: #59 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s the one I thought they were referring to, also, and I don’t see that it says what the Sanders’ team is saying it says. But it’s late, and I may be confused.

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retired cynic  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:29:59pm

re: #59 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s the one I thought they were referring to, also, and I don’t see that it says what the Sanders’ team is saying it says. But it’s late, and I may be confused.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:32:52pm

re: #62 retired cynic

re: #63 retired cynic

I’m amazed how rarely I see a double post on this site.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:34:56pm

I’m seeing double-double

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:34:57pm

re: #64 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I’m amazed how rarely I see a double post on this site.

It just makes them extra special.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:35:22pm

re: #65 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I’m seeing double-double

It’s a double rainbow!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:53:17pm

re: #63 retired cynic

That’s the one I thought they were referring to, also, and I don’t see that it says what the Sanders’ team is saying it says. But it’s late, and I may be confused.

It’s referring to the same Scarborough interview where she apparently refused to call him unqualified 3 times.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 6, 2016 • 11:57:10pm

Someone has mapped the Panama Papers client locations. No names, but the numbers are interesting in themselves.

briankilmartin.cartodb.com

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Tigger2  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:04:31am

Had about enough of Bernie.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:05:30am

Rage Furby headline today:

Why I Deserve Credit For Outing Rolling Stone Hoax Artist “Jackie Coakley” & Why The Media Must Name Her

With photo of her included.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:06:04am

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

There must be lots of people in Siberia.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:08:19am

re: #68 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s referring to the same Scarborough interview where she apparently refused to call him unqualified 3 times.

Yeah, but she didn’t prevent the newspaper from putting those words in her mouth, so therefore she owns it.

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Kragar  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:10:59am

re: #71 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Shorter version:

“WITNESS ME! SHINY AND CHROME!”

Mediocre.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:13:05am

re: #74 Kragar

Shorter version:

“WITNESS ME! SHINY AND CHROME!”

Mediocre.

He posted videos of himself discussing the matter. I guess writing it down is too hard.

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Viscous Obama  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:15:44am

dammit tigger

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Tigger2  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:22:05am

re: #76 Viscous Obama

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dammit tigger

Can never get enough of John Dingell. Always liked him.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:34:41am

Sitting here out in my shop loading a ‘new’ (for him) server for a local dentist. I just wanted to say that I hate Practice Works. Something goes wrong every single time I install their software. This time Pervasive (database) installed fine and Practice Works itself puked during its install. Good thing I image the system and set a restore point prior to starting this crap.

A good example of some of their other crap is one of their setup disks for their image capture hardware asks you which models you wish to install the drivers for. I have three models I have to install drivers for but it’s a waste of time to do anything but select the first one on the list. You can select more models but it wants a reboot after installing the first driver pack, no ifs, ands or buts about it. After a reboot I run the installer again, select the other two models I need to install drivers for and it launches the installer for the first image driver again. At this point you close the damned window that opened and another window is behind it that has the other two models I selected on it, waiting for me to press OK! Excellent work, Kodak!

Oh, and the old InstallShield packaging makes me feel like I’m installing programs in Windows 98.

Good thing I have a great bong and some excellent dabs on hand to keep things calm. :) Time for a hit and then back to beating the crap out of that damned Kodak software.

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Lani  Apr 7, 2016 • 1:00:02am

I just lurk and enjoy the comments. But the Sanders comments about Hillz “quote unquote” ended any kindness I felt about him. I had considered his campaign as raising important discussions, but now he’s just a cranky guy riding on rwnj money to discredit her.

My grown-up kid is a Sanders fan. During our last discussion when I asked him how these marvelous changes would occur, he gave up and said something about flying unicorns sprinkling glitter.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 2:56:20am

Agreed.

His problem is that he’s painted himself into a corner with his ‘quote unquote’ quote and any act of decent contrition will look like weakness to his more militant fans.
NYDT made him look unprepared; now he’s gotta roll with it.
Still live in hope that decency prevails. Either way ‘HE DREW FIRST BLOOD!’

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Ming5000  Apr 7, 2016 • 2:59:13am

re: #80 Alyosha

Was reading the last thread. Is the new use of “quote/unquote” that you are not actually quoting? I missed that memo, Bernie.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:46:53am

re: #81 Ming5000

‘Quote unquote’ is virtually the new ‘literally’.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:48:00am

Literally the new literally.

Wait, what?

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:49:29am

re: #83 Le Lapin Tueur

Literally the new literally.

Wait, what?

Figuratively.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:50:04am

re: #82 Alyosha

‘Quote unquote’ is virtually the new ‘literally’.

Google assures me that quote/unquote does not exist:

Your search - “” - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Try different keywords.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:51:38am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Google assures me that quote/unquote does not exist:

Your search - “” - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Try different keywords.

Used to be ‘verbatim’.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:52:27am

re: #25 ObserverArt

Thanks. But I admit I am still a tad confused. I always fully charge the Li-Ion batteries to a full charge. To me that means allowing the battery to remain on the charger until the charger indicates it is fully charged. That is indicated by the flashing light going solid is it not?

What the battery store guy said was to go way beyond when the charge indicator light stops flashing. He said to do this for the very first time you charge the new battery…not to do it every time.

As I said the original battery (already in use) seems to be fully charged after about 2 hours if it has been run down to almost no charge left in it as shown when the camera gives me a ‘battery low” indication warning.

I just find no one saying to leave a fully charged battery on the charger for up to 10 hours more after the indicator light goes out… the first time it is ever charged.

I’d be worried about it heating up too much and ruining the battery or blowing it up.

I have found similar comments and recommendations to what you found. I have found nothing close to what this guy told me. I am thinking it may be magic woo.

It actually depends upon what type of charger you are using. If you are using a “dumb” charger (one the supplies a constant voltage/current) then yes, once the charge light goes green or steady, remove the batteries. On the other hand, if you are using a “smart/intelligent” (one that monitors voltage/current and adjusts both according to charge state) then its fine to leave them in. I use the latter and have not had any issues with overheating. The Li-Ion batteries I use are the BRC 18650s and my charger is the Nitecore Intellicharger i4. Hope this helps.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:55:42am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Google assures me that quote/unquote does not exist:

Your search - “” - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Try different keywords.

Also, “” has to be cuneiform for something.

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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:56:45am

Probably literally.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 3:58:25am

re: #89 Le Lapin Tueur

Probably literally.

Certainly conceivably.

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Ming5000  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:04:21am

re: #90 Alyosha

Actually, I agree with you.

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Ming5000  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:12:43am

Is this that BS double standard, mansplaining thing, where HRC is “SHARPLY” questioning something?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0X412G

At least the headline has them both turning “spiky”, although I am not sure that HRC is being “spiky, while I am sure Bernie is being “spiky”.
Clinton, Sanders turn spiky ahead of New York primary

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Decatur Deb  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:20:36am

re: #89 Le Lapin Tueur

Probably literally.

Virtually likely.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:22:55am

HRC’s chore for the next 6 months will be to unfuck the Democratic electorate when she should be chewing off Trump’s little fingers.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:24:20am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

I’ve been assured by the women in my life that they’re masters at multitasking.

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BlackPearl  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:26:44am

re: #69 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Someone has mapped the Panama Papers client locations. No names, but the numbers are interesting in themselves.

briankilmartin.cartodb.com

Check out Luxembourg! Also, Jersey and Guernsey are both huge, with the Isle of Man not far behind. What’s up with that?

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:28:35am

re: #96 BlackPearl

Check out Luxembourg! Also, Jersey and Guernsey are both huge, with the Isle of Man not far behind. What’s up with that?

I’m not sure about Luxembourg, but Jersey and Guernsey have strict bank secrecy and loose incorporation requirements.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:30:50am

re: #96 BlackPearl

I extracted this data from Kilmartin’s map for the USA, China and Hong Kong. Mossack Fonseca has a very busy office in HK.

Sources: ICIJ; Brian Kilmartin, The Irish Times
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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:44:06am

re: #92 Ming5000

Is this that BS double standard, mansplaining thing, where HRC is “SHARPLY” questioning something?

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At least the headline has them both turning “spiky”, although I am not sure that HRC is being “spiky, while I am sure Bernie is being “spiky”.
Clinton, Sanders turn spiky ahead of New York primary

spiky.

Hmmm, maybe that’s a word I can use sometime.

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BlackPearl  Apr 7, 2016 • 4:58:18am

re: #97 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Huh, I always just assumed they were part of England (as opposed to part of the UK). Off to wikipedia, I guess.

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Nojay UK  Apr 7, 2016 • 5:04:14am

re: #101 BlackPearl

It’s… complicated. There are a number of small islands which are not exactly part of the UK but fall under the Crown and as such they can set some of their own local rules about banking, taxes etc. It’s a bit like American Marianas, Puerto Rico and the like in the US.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 5:08:34am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

HRC’s chore for the next 6 months will be to unfuck the Democratic electorate when she should be chewing off Trump’s little fingers.

She can do both. They’re little fingers.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 5:45:20am

Please win by double digits in NY, Hillary.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 5:57:33am
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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:05:39am

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

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Heh. Even Morning Joke Scarborough said he did all he could do to get Hillary to say Bernie was disqualified.

Is that debate between Bernie and Hillary still on? It sure is going to be interesting.

Or, is Bernie going to run away and hide while slinging bombs from a bunker full of money?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:08:23am

I’m just looking forward for the campaign to end. I really did want to like Bernie but there’s a lot I’ve seen that despite the fact I would be a natural Sanders supporter otherwise has made me more inclined to Clinton. I see little awareness of pragmatism with the man. And I think pragmatism is a good trait in a leader. I also don’t want my intelligence insulted by being told Bernie’s not a politician or that he doesn’t play negative. Honestly, I feel the party’s left and I say this as a member of the party’s left that they could do better than Sanders as its leader. I’m hopeful that in the future someone else will emerge. I am glad that Clinton isn’t going to walk away with the primary as a formality but at the same time, the party’s left needs to work on itself too. I.>E merely being right on a post vote doesn’t make you more qualified.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:10:19am

I love Twitter (though I no longer participate) for the brevity-as-wit’s-soul moments.
Then there are tweets like these.

I consider my ability to refrain from replying in any way to such examples of naked stupidity as trials of patience. Canonisation cannot be far off.

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:12:00am

Today I see a lot of spiking the football on the one yard line.

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makeitstop  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:16:06am

So, I installed that ‘Brave’ browser on my other machine (Win 8.1 - it didn’t like the Win 10 install on this one for some reason and wouldn’t install). I brought up LGF and even with the ad blocker turned off, it does seem significantly faster than Chrome.

Next I’ll load up 10 or 12 tabs and see how fast it is then….

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:17:48am

Local news is pimping the hell out of the new Harry Potter attraction at Universal. They startled the whole zip code with loud fireworks the other night. And BTW if any Lizards are coming to the tour, let me or some other local get ya a deal. Universal smooths things over with neighbors with deals and swag sometimes.One friend that works there says Potter discount tix by mid Summer.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:19:58am

re: #109 Kent Dorfman

I’ll bite :)

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:20:51am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I’m just looking forward for the campaign to end. I really did want to like Bernie but there’s a lot I’ve seen that despite the fact I would be a natural Sanders supporter otherwise has made me more inclined to Clinton. I see little awareness of pragmatism with the man. And I think pragmatism is a good trait in a leader. I also don’t want my intelligence insulted by being told Bernie’s not a politician or that he doesn’t play negative. Honestly, I feel the party’s left and I say this as a member of the party’s left that they could do better than Sanders as its leader. I’m hopeful that in the future someone else will emerge. I am glad that Clinton isn’t going to walk away with the primary as a formality but at the same time, the party’s left needs to work on itself too. I.>E merely being right on a post vote doesn’t make you more qualified.

Lets say we get HRC elected. What to do with Sanders and his people? Maybe put him where he can put his fire to the right feet. SEC? Can a President arrange the right committee chair for him?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:22:40am

re: #113 Great White Snark

That is usually how it works.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:24:12am

re: #113 Great White Snark

Lets say we get HRC elected. What to do with Sanders and his people? Maybe put him where he can put his fire to the right feet. SEC? Can a President arrange the right committee chair for him?

Will he even accept a post? How far is he going to take his martyrdom?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:24:38am

re: #113 Great White Snark

Lets say we get HRC elected. What to do with Sanders and his people? Maybe put him where he can put his fire to the right feet. SEC? Can a President arrange the right committee chair for him?

That’s a good question. I wouldn’t mind him administering an agency where he clearly does have focus and understanding on such as the SEC as you say. I think it would be a mistake to ignore Sanders and his supporters. I hope she does reach out to him after this primary’s conclusion. One reason why I came off impressed with Obama in 2008 is how he was willing to work with Clinton and many past critics. Dare I use the word,, Obama acted very Lincolnsque there.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:25:41am

God damn everything, I cannot believe I voted for this chickenshit purity-monger douchecanoe in a primary. How could I think that a guy who sat in the Senate for decades and garnered zero senatorial endorsements could be a team player? How could I think that somebody who caucused with Democrats for decades but fought tooth and nail to preserve his lilly-white (I) could put policy before ego?

Someday I’ll learn my lesson. loljk I will never learn my lesson.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:25:53am

re: #115 Alyosha

Will he even accept a post? How far is he going to take his martyrdom?

That’s true too. Takes two. I think I’d be okay with Bernie being a cabinet secretary for something like Labor or HUD. I think Treasury or State is too much and I wouldn’t want VP- I think Clinton needs to go with someone younger for that anyhow.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:25:57am

re: #113 Great White Snark

Lets say we get HRC elected. What to do with Sanders and his people? Maybe put him where he can put his fire to the right feet. SEC? Can a President arrange the right committee chair for him?

I’m thinking after the past week or so many Democrats are thinking it is time to put Bernie back on “Ignore.”

I really doubt Hillary will be thinking of using Bernie after this mess is over.

He has quote/unquote “Done this to himself.”

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:26:44am

re: #113 Great White Snark

Lets say we get HRC elected. What to do with Sanders and his people? Maybe put him where he can put his fire to the right feet. SEC? Can a President arrange the right committee chair for him?

He can go crack whips in the Montpelier spice mines for all I care.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:26:51am

re: #119 ObserverArt

I’m thinking after the past week or so many Democrats are thinking it is time to put Bernie back on “Ignore.”

I really doubt Hillary will be thinking of using Bernie after this mess is over.

He has quote/unquote “Done this to himself.”

I really don’t think she and the Dems should ignore him completely. He clearly does have a base of support. It’s not like he hasn’t won anything. However, I do agree with your main point that he’s burned a lot of bridges.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:28:57am

re: #113 Great White Snark

Lets say we get HRC elected. What to do with Sanders and his people? Maybe put him where he can put his fire to the right feet. SEC? Can a President arrange the right committee chair for him?

I could see him in Labor. I really don’t think his demeanor would work in the SEC.

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:29:33am

re: #112 Alyosha

Just an observation of today posts about Bernie and Hillary. I am really curious how well Hillary will do in New York. Conventional wisdom is that she will win it. With my scientific test, I have yet to see a Hillary bumper sticker, and I have seen several for Bernie. I do live in upstate NY, and Hillary is a persona non grata here.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:29:44am

The question becomes, though, would he be willing at this time to give up his Senate seat.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:30:43am

re: #124 Belafon

The question becomes, though, would he be willing at this time to give up his Senate seat.

That’s true too. As I said, it does take two. First for Clinton to offer up a position and secondly for Bernie to accept it.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:30:51am

re: #123 Kent Dorfman

Just an observation of today posts about Bernie and Hillary. I am really curious how well Hillary will do in New York. Conventional wisdom is that she will win it. With my scientific test, I have yet to see a Hillary bumper sticker, and I have seen several for Bernie. I do live in upstate NY, and Hillary is a persona non grata here.

Anecdotally, Clinton supporters care a lot more about voting, and Sanders supporters care a lot more about people knowing they support Sanders.

That might be an artifact of all of the terrific “outreach” Sanders’ surrogates have been doing.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:31:52am

re: #123 Kent Dorfman

Just an observation of today posts about Bernie and Hillary. I am really curious how well Hillary will do in New York. Conventional wisdom is that she will win it. With my scientific test, I have yet to see a Hillary bumper sticker, and I have seen several for Bernie. I do live in upstate NY, and Hillary is a persona non grata here.

I’ve been to upstate New York, did my nuclear prototype training in Ballston Spa. It’s a lot like the rural parts of other Democratic states, such as Northern California. It’s not going to cause Clinton to lose NY.

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:31:52am

re: #115 Alyosha

I’d not make too much of election moment misbehavior. I would think he would happily take an opportunity to move on a mutual agenda item or three. He could give her cover, kick some corporate butt, take the heat for her on it. But DC gets weird, so much going on that’s invisible from here. The downside perhaps of indy status is I just don’t follow party internals.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:32:02am

When it comes down to it HRC will probably sit down with Bernie and have a good talk about what can and cannot be done. Bernie will probably end up with some sort of Cabinet position.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:33:37am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

That’s a good question. I wouldn’t mind him administering an agency where he clearly does have focus and understanding on such as the SEC as you say. I think it would be a mistake to ignore Sanders and his supporters. I hope she does reach out to him after this primary’s conclusion. One reason why I came off impressed with Obama in 2008 is how he was willing to work with Clinton and many past critics. Dare I use the word,, Obama acted very Lincolnsque there.

Two way street Happy. Hillary probably made it known to Obama she would be willing to work in his administration if asked.

Bernie, by getting increasingly obstinate and negative most likely will be a hot-head and refuse to even communicate with her. Yeah, I am taking it that far. He is showing signs of it right now.

Besides, why would he soil his reputation by working with someone unqualified for the job? You say something like that…you put paid on any future with the person you called out and have to live with your words.

And since Bernie says he doesn’t play ‘politics’ then he didn’t call Hillary out as a political trick. As I said last night…there is now clear indication why he went Independent. He can’t work with anyone. Proof? What has he done as an Independent? And does that not show he doesn’t want to play?

Again…He has done this to himself. I’m not going to feel sorry for him.

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b.d.  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:33:49am

re: #129 PhillyPretzel

When it comes down to it HRC will probably sit down with Bernie and have a good talk about what can and cannot be done. Bernie will probably end up with some sort of Cabinet position.

My guess is the Bernie wouldn’t want a job where he would be accountable for his actions, I think he would rather go back to being a full time rock thrower.

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:34:34am

re: #127 Belafon

Drive by it every day. Yeah, upstate has little election power.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:34:57am

re: #131 b.d.

That is why I said they will talk/negotiate.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:35:05am

re: #111 Great White Snark

Local news is pimping the hell out of the new Harry Potter attraction at Universal. They startled the whole zip code with loud fireworks the other night. And BTW if any Lizards are coming to the tour, let me or some other local get ya a deal. Universal smooths things over with neighbors with deals and swag sometimes.One friend that works there says Potter discount tix by mid Summer.

Even with the new book on pre-order months in advance? Surprising.

Though you could easily scare wingnuts away from Harry Potter: Just tell them he grows up to work in the Ministry of Magic. While mainstream conservatives would be disappointed, they’d console themselves by saying “Yet the Ministry served Lady Thatcher well and its efficient, so it can’t be too bad.”, wingnut would scream VILE GOVMINT BUREAURAT!!1 FIRE ‘EM ALL!!!11

/I’m kidding but not by much.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:35:40am

re: #123 Kent Dorfman

A lot of people saw Ben Carson bumper stickers.
A lot of people don’t express a strong opinion in favour of Clinton for fear of upsetting the tender feelings of the Sanders crowd.
And we’re not at the one-yard line.
I don’t know American football well enough to make an accurate analogy but if you’ve got money on the ‘game’, delegate-wise she’s got a more impressive spread than Obama had over her in 2008.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:36:36am

FAILboat Sighting:

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:36:42am

re: #123 Kent Dorfman

Just an observation of today posts about Bernie and Hillary. I am really curious how well Hillary will do in New York. Conventional wisdom is that she will win it. With my scientific test, I have yet to see a Hillary bumper sticker, and I have seen several for Bernie. I do live in upstate NY, and Hillary is a persona non grata here.

Are they covering the rust holes in the cars? /

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:36:48am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

Got a good deal on a chair signed by JK Rowling, only cost me $400,000.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:37:20am

re: #129 PhillyPretzel

Nope. Bernie will be a sore loser, turn tail and run back to Vermont with hardly a word said. And he will be forgotten just like he was unknown before any of this started.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:38:05am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

That’s a good question. I wouldn’t mind him administering an agency where he clearly does have focus and understanding on such as the SEC as you say. I think it would be a mistake to ignore Sanders and his supporters. I hope she does reach out to him after this primary’s conclusion. One reason why I came off impressed with Obama in 2008 is how he was willing to work with Clinton and many past critics. Dare I use the word,, Obama acted very Lincolnsque there.

Fuck him. I’m appalled by his lack of understanding of pretty much everything. I’m not even sure he deserves to be in the senate.

Twenty years in DC and he’s this ignorant? No cabinet position for you!

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:38:28am

re: #126 Testy Toad T

That might be an artifact of all of the terrific “outreach” Sanders’ surrogates have been doing.

It’s kind of remarkable that the more obnoxious of Sanders’ backers are so vitriolic that they make lifelong Democrats leery of openly discussing their support of Hillary freaking Clinton, but the facts are what they are.

Fortunately, we have a secret ballot in this country, so people can vote without getting shouted at by Reddit assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:39:56am

re: #130 ObserverArt

Two way street Happy. Hillary probably made it known to Obama she would be willing to work in his administration if asked.

Bernie, by getting increasingly obstinate and negative most likely will be a hot-head and refuse to even communicate with her. Yeah, I am taking it that far. He is showing signs of it right now.

Besides, why would he soil his reputation by working with someone unqualified for the job? You say something like that…you put paid on any future with the person you called out and have to live with your words.

And since Bernie says he doesn’t play ‘politics’ then he didn’t call Hillary out as a political trick. As I said last night…there is now clear indication why he went Independent. He can’t work with anyone. Proof? What has he done as an Independent? And does that not show he doesn’t want to play?

Again…He has done this to himself. I’m not going to feel sorry for him.

I understand and agree with a lot of you’re saying. These are different situations I concede but I also feel the Democratic Party cannot ignore that Sanders has done pretty well. They don’t necessarily have to offer him anything I feel but a branch to the party’s left would be okay with me. But in the end, I agree with you that Bernie has alienated a lot of people. I know he has me. I went from liking the idea of voting for him to where I am now where I hope he just fades away or does a total 180 on his approach.

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b.d.  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:40:16am

re: #138 Kent Dorfman

Got a good deal on a chair signed by JK Rowling, only cost me $400,000.

I hope your ass is happy because she sure needed the money.

//

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:40:44am

re: #140 MsJ

Fuck him. I’m appalled by his lack of understanding of pretty much everything. I’m not even sure he deserves to be in the senate.

Twenty years in DC and he’s this ignorant? No cabinet position for you!

You’re more harsh than I am I guess.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:41:42am
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withak  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:41:57am

re: #135 Alyosha

A lot of people saw Ben Carson bumper stickers.
A lot of people don’t express a strong opinion in favour of Clinton for fear of upsetting the tender feelings of the Sanders crowd.
And we’re not at the one-yard line.
I don’t know American football well enough to make an accurate analogy but if you’ve got money on the ‘game’, delegate-wise she’s got a more impressive spread than Obama had over her in 2008.

If bumper sticker popularity coincided with actual popularity, based on my own personal observations, Carson would have won Minnesota even after dropping out.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:42:09am

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

This is technically correct but very rabble-rousey. The UK right wing has built a cottage industry on Argentinian fear-mongering, and this sort of clickbait is all they have left. The latter’s military capability has been gone for years and years. Even their above-the-fold wow image is ancient history — ARA Santísima Trinidad sank at her moorings more than three years ago.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:42:26am

Honestly, I’m tired of the party’s progressive wing always bitching about being betrayed. Maybe if you guys actually voted more often or worked hard to get your candidates elected on the basis of something other than ideological purity, the party leaders would take you seriously. Politics is more than just issues. It’s people.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:43:54am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

I understand and agree with a lot of you’re saying. These are different situations I concede but I also feel the Democratic Party cannot ignore that Sanders has done pretty well. They don’t necessarily have to offer him anything I feel but a branch to the party’s left would be okay with me. But in the end, I agree with you that Bernie has alienated a lot of people. I know he has me. I went from liking the idea of voting for him to where I am now where I hope he just fades away or does a total 180 on his approach.

I know you know this, so I don’t mean it as condescension, but Bernie Sanders is not the Democratic Party’s left.

His base of support, if anything, is independent third-way sorts of folks.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:44:33am

I half expect Bernie to support Trump before this is all over.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:44:50am

re: #134 Dark_Falcon

What new book? A Harry Potter book?

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:45:30am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

I understand and agree with a lot of you’re saying. These are different situations I concede but I also feel the Democratic Party cannot ignore that Sanders has done pretty well. They don’t necessarily have to offer him anything I feel but a branch to the party’s left would be okay with me. But in the end, I agree with you that Bernie has alienated a lot of people. I know he has me. I went from liking the idea of voting for him to where I am now where I hope he just fades away or does a total 180 on his approach.

My main point is Bernie will be the one that won’t work with Hillary. The Dems may want to, but they will be real reluctant. And why shouldn’t they be?

To me saying someone is not qualified to be president is going too far. I’m going to be crude. He just shit on her.

You can’t say you will run a positive campaign and then say what he said. It does not work that way. He has gone against his own word. That say a lot about the man.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:45:36am

re: #150 GlutenFreeJesus

Stranger things have happened in politics.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:46:25am

re: #150 GlutenFreeJesus

I half expect Bernie to support Trump before this is all over.

That would actually surprise me. I think he’d endorse Stein first but there is more intersection with him and Trump than I would have otherwise been willing to concede.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:46:47am

re: #152 ObserverArt

My main point is Bernie will be the one that won’t work with Hillary. The Dems may want to, but they will be real reluctant. And why shouldn’t they be.

To me saying someone is not qualified to be president is going too far. I’m going to be crude. He just shit on her.

You can’t say you will run a positive campaign and then say what he said. It does not work that way. He has gone against his own word. That say a lot about the man.

True that. Good points.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:47:03am

re: #149 Testy Toad T

I know you know this, so I don’t mean it as condescension, but Bernie Sanders is not the Democratic Party’s left.

His base of support, if anything, is independent third-way sorts of folks.

It sounds exclusionary until you remember that the guy has been an Independent since God wore shorts and figured he’d latch onto the major party that might (and did) include him.
That in itself ought to be a compliment to the Capital Ds Big Tent.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:47:18am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Either way. Donald or Jill can have him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:47:20am

re: #149 Testy Toad T

I know you know this, so I don’t mean it as condescension, but Bernie Sanders is not the Democratic Party’s left.

His base of support, if anything, is independent third-way sorts of folks.

Nah it’s all good. Man I just can’t wait for this all to be over.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:48:07am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I’m tired of the party’s progressive wing always bitching about being betrayed. Maybe if you guys actually voted more often or worked hard to get your candidates elected on the basis of something other than ideological purity, the party leaders would take you seriously. Politics is more than just issues. It’s people.

Welcome to my world, HW. You gotta learn to not let the “PURITY NOW!!1” crowd get to you. They don’t and won’t understand that in order to govern compromises have to be made. Trying to teach them as a whole is a waste of time, but sometimes individuals gain enough perspective that they can be educated. Focus on those people and ignore the slogan shouters.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:48:18am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

You’re more harsh than I am I guess.

You’re a better person than I.

I have zero tolerance for bullshit. None. Nada. Zip.

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makeitstop  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:49:31am

More on Brave…

This thing seems to work pretty damn well. I’ve got it loaded up with two dozen of my sites, and it took until about site #22 before some of the Wordpress animation stuff started going a little jerky. Initial page loads for each tab were still very fast.

And instead of a single row of tabs that get tinier as you add more, Brave sets up tabbed screens of six, with a small row of buttons to click to each screen. Very well-organized!

If I can figure out a way to import my passwords from Chrome, I’m going to start using this browser on my work machine (and hopefully get it to work on the Win 10 laptop). Pretty impressive.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:49:33am

re: #156 Alyosha

It sounds exclusionary until you remember that the guy has been an Independent since God wore shorts and figured he’d latch onto the major party that might (and did) include him.
That in itself ought to be a compliment to the Capital Ds Big Tent.

I saw above that Clinton in fact did raise 10 grand for him in 2008. The guy’s not a team player and that by far has been why he’s unqualified himself from my vote. Our great presidents and leaders have been men and women who didn’t talk into an ideological mirror or people who supported them. Sure, not everyone had Lincoln’s Team of Rivals of Washington’s team of Adams, Jefferson, and Hamilton but what unites successful leaders in this country is that they have been willing to listen to opinions that may not be their own and work towards a common goal despite that.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:50:30am

re: #151 MsJ

What new book? A Harry Potter book?

Yes indeed. Based a play, interestingly enough.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:50:40am

re: #145 The Vicious Babushka

I really cleaning up my Following on Twitter. I don’t mind Bernie supporters. Those who spew baloney, gone. Buh bye.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:51:12am

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

Welcome to my world, HW. You gotta learn to not let the “PURITY NOW!!1” crowd get to you. They don’t and won’t understand that in order to govern compromises have to be made. Trying to teach them as a whole is a waste of time, but sometimes individuals gain enough perspective that they can be educated. Focus on those people and ignore the slogan shouters.

I go out of my way only to talk politics here really. I don’t do politics much in my personal life.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:51:43am

re: #160 MsJ

You’re a better person than I.

I have zero tolerance for bullshit. None. Nada. Zip.

I had months of tolerance for Sanders trying to drag the presumptive nominee toward his policy positions, but it’s becoming plain as day he has no such interest.

I get that it’s sad that you can sit in Congress for decades and be seen as an outside shot at best. I would be grumpy about that too. We are more of a plutocracy than we ought to be. Insiders have better shots than they deserve. But I also take pride in my party living with a reality-based worldview, and if you care more about what’s Right (TM) and less about making peoples’ lives better and improving this country, then fuck off. Go shout from your porch. You have every right to express your views, but you don’t belong in a position of power.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:52:10am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I’m tired of the party’s progressive wing always bitching about being betrayed. Maybe if you guys actually voted more often or worked hard to get your candidates elected on the basis of something other than ideological purity, the party leaders would take you seriously. Politics is more than just issues. It’s people.

No kidding. There’s this thing called a mid-term. Learn it. Love it

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:53:38am

re: #160 MsJ

You’re a better person than I.

I have zero tolerance for bullshit. None. Nada. Zip.

It’s really funny how it turned out. I didn’t like Clinton much in 2008 at all. I actually thought she acted a lot how Bernie is now- selt-entitled, condescending, etc. Now maybe some of that was pre-bias but I think Clinton has grown a lot the past seven years. I really think in the end although she’d probably never say it in public but losing the 2008 primary to Obama was good for her and her career. It’s rare when that happens but this is a time where I thnk it did.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:54:57am

re: #164 MsJ

I really cleaning up my Following on Twitter. I don’t mind Bernie supporters. Those who spew baloney, gone. Buh bye.

The ones who get all up in my mentions with bullshit conspiracy theories that originated at World Net Daily get the Block. I have no patience for that shit.

I blocked the entire #HillaryForPrison hashtag.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:55:25am

re: #167 MsJ

No kidding. There’s this thing called a mid-term. Learn it. Love it

As much as I loathe the Tea Party bastards, they vote and value every position they can get even at the most local of levels. The Dem party left seems to see ti as the Presidency or bust which is a foolish attitude. It’s too bad because I honestly do feel that a lot of my ideology is more in line with theirs in some ways than the Dem insiders they detest but I value competency too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:56:02am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

The ones who get all up in my mentions with bullshit conspiracy theories that originated at World Net Daily get the Block. I have no patience for that shit.

I blocked the entire #HillaryForPrison hashtag.

That’s another thing. A lot of them are conspiracy nuts who can’t admit being beat. It’s always fraud if they lose and a triumph of Democracy if they win. I

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:56:14am

re: #160 MsJ

You’re a better person than I.

I have zero tolerance for bullshit. None. Nada. Zip.

I work in sales so I have to have a pretty high tolerance for BS.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:57:01am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Kinda why I bend over backwards to allow Bernie his time in the sun.
2008 was brutal.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:57:16am

re: #171 HappyWarrior

That’s another thing. A lot of them are conspiracy nuts who can’t admit being beat. It’s always fraud if they lose and a triumph of Democracy if they win. I

“Failed Historian” conspiracism strikes again.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:57:27am

I started reading the actual transcript of the NYDN interview. It honestly made me sick to my stomach.

I wonder how many of Sanders’ supporters have actually listened to him talk, or read what he writes. I know, I know this sounds like some kind of old fogey get-off-my-lawn sentiment. I’m 35, I do the facebooks, I understand social media at least a little. But damn if it doesn’t look like a populist whirlwind spun up around the dream-unicorn candidate everyone wishes Sanders embodied, rather than a doddering old fool who bitches that his electronic trinket isn’t made in ‘Murrica anymore and doesn’t understand that the world will never again work that way.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:57:41am

re: #173 Alyosha

Kinda why I bend over backwards to allow Bernie his time in the sun.
2008 was brutal.

It was. I was focused on getting my associates at that time so no time to really pay attention that much.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:59:04am

re: #173 Alyosha

Kinda why I bend over backwards to allow Bernie his time in the sun.
2008 was brutal.

It’s pretty fascinating to watch everything as somebody who was staunchly pro-Hillary’s-opponent (cf. anti-Hillary) in 2008 and staunchly pro-Hillary in 2016.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 6:59:56am

re: #130 ObserverArt

Two way street Happy. Hillary probably made it known to Obama she would be willing to work in his administration if asked.

Bernie, by getting increasingly obstinate and negative most likely will be a hot-head and refuse to even communicate with her. Yeah, I am taking it that far. He is showing signs of it right now.

Besides, why would he soil his reputation by working with someone unqualified for the job? You say something like that…you put paid on any future with the person you called out and have to live with your words.

And since Bernie says he doesn’t play ‘politics’ then he didn’t call Hillary out as a political trick. As I said last night…there is now clear indication why he went Independent. He can’t work with anyone. Proof? What has he done as an Independent? And does that not show he doesn’t want to play?

Again…He has done this to himself. I’m not going to feel sorry for him.

Remember how bitter it got near the end of the 2008 primary? Remember when Clinton started demanding that all of Michigan’s and Florida’s delegates be counted after they’d been punished for moving their primaries up early?

Some of this stuff is normal primary shenanigans. The real tell will be when the nomination is over.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:00:23am

I gotta get busy…but something to think about.

If you are getting interviewed for a big job and it is down to two people but there are two jobs how do you act?

One is to be subservient to the other but still a top job. Sure you want the bigger job with more responsibility so you do everything you can to get that big job.

In one of the last closing interviews do you go in and tell the interviewers, now joined by the company principals, ‘you don’t think the other person is qualified for the job?’

How will that be taken? Are you telling the company looking to hire you they do not have the proper ability to judge who is qualified? Are you calling them out?

Will you be told you are no longer being considered for either job. Thank you for your interest but we have decided to interview other candidates?

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:00:27am

re: #163 Dark_Falcon

Yes indeed. Based a play, interestingly enough.

Thank you! Goody!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:02:12am

re: #175 Testy Toad T

I started reading the actual transcript of the NYDN interview. It honestly made me sick to my stomach.

I wonder how many of Sanders’ supporters have actually listened to him talk, or read what he writes. I know, I know this sounds like some kind of old fogey get-off-my-lawn sentiment. I’m 35, I do the facebooks, I understand social media at least a little. But damn if it doesn’t look like a populist whirlwind spun up around the dream-unicorn candidate everyone wishes Sanders embodied, rather than a doddering old fool who bitches that his electronic trinket isn’t made in ‘Murrica anymore and doesn’t understand that the world will never again work that way.

I do think a lot of people on the party’s left and honestly the country as a whole (since there are plenty of right wingers who bemoan that as well) just can’t accept that. I’ve talked often here about my working class roots- my father was a waiter, my grandfather a brickmason, and two great grandfathers worked in coal mines. The America that my grandfather was born in 1929 is not the U.S anymore. I’m sorry but it’s a reality of being a post-industrial economy. And the fact is we still do manufacture a lot of goods. Now, I do feel that we should be helping areas of the country that have lost work and industry due to trade and jobs moving overseas but we have to accept that this isn’t going to be the country that our grandparents grew up in. And honestly in some ways, that’s for really for better. The working men in my family lived short lives. They didn’t have as much time for their families.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:06:05am

re: #176 HappyWarrior

It was. I was focused on getting my associates at that time so no time to really pay attention that much.

I only paid attention to what Sky News told me so alot of the minutia was lost to me. I had no conception of the flame wars and PUMAs until long after the fact

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:10:19am

re: #81 Ming5000

Was reading the last thread. Is the new use of “quote/unquote” that you are not actually quoting? I missed that memo, Bernie.

Arguing that BERNIE IS RIGHT AND GOOD AND PURE, one of the pretzel contortionists at kos put something in quotes in a comment—somebody pointed out that it was not a quote—pretzel guy said he was paraphrasing and it’s very common to put paraphrased comments in quotes. Yep, it’s a whole alternate universe in Bernieland.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:11:59am

So, I watched those videos Rage Furby posted and the gist is this: he thinks the media are not publishing UVa Jackie’s real name because they don’t want to give him credit for outing her.

Srsly

As far as Johnson is concerned, the big story here is not that “Jackie” has to give sworn testimony for the first time about the case, or that the dean is asking $10 million in damages from a major media outlet.

No sirree, the big story is that his name is not coming up in the media reports.

We note this is the same guy who claims former Breitbart report Michelle Fields makes herself the story, by being a drama queen and “attention seeker.” He’s published nine articles attacking Fields since she claimed Donald Trump’s campaign manager grabbed her arm hard enough to leave bruises.

In two YouTube videos published at GotNewsDotCom (which is not us!), Johnson claims the media won’t reveal “Jackie“‘s real name, “because they just don’t want to give me credit for breaking the story.”

After claiming his coverage has changed the “politics” of campus rape policies everywhere, Johnson says, “Could it be that people are afraid that there’s a guy out there who’s breaking stories better than they are? … Or maybe just maybe people don’t want to credit me and that’s why they don’t want to name Jackie ——-?”

“Where are my awards?” he complains.

More at GotNwes.com

Also, Chuck is reading from a Twitter feed in front of him — “that I’m not supposed to have.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:12:35am

re: #178 Belafon

Remember how bitter it got near the end of the 2008 primary? Remember when Clinton started demanding that all of Michigan’s and Florida’s delegates be counted after they’d been punished for moving their primaries up early?

Some of this stuff is normal primary shenanigans. The real tell will be when the nomination is over.

Yes. I remember a lot of that.

She hinted he was young and inexperienced, which he was. From what I remember she didn’t lie about a direct quote either. I admit it isn’t all clear to me know. It did get contentious. Maybe I’ve forgotten some of that heated exchanges and maneuvering.

I don’t remember Hillary saying Obama wasn’t qualified to be president.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:13:55am

It would have been funny to see 2016 Sanders attempt to campaign against an Obama who had lost to Clinton in 2008 and then served in her administration. I have no illusions, I get that Hillary Clinton is personally rather unpopular. I think that’s a big part of Sanders’ base, young liberals who grew up hearing nasty shit about the Clintons but were too young to be properly skeptical.

Obama would wipe the floor with Sanders so hard they’d have to ask Donald Trump to come build a yuuuuuge, classy replacement floor.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:15:01am

re: #180 MsJ

Thank you! Goody!!

This is the play that has the black actress playing Hermione (for you Doctor Who fans, she was in charge of UNIT for the 10th Doctor). We had a lively discussion here (mainly driven by Nyet) over whether it was OK to recast Hermione as a black woman.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:15:16am

re: #185 ObserverArt

Yes. I remember a lot of that.

She hinted he was young and inexperienced, which he was. From what I remember she didn’t lie about a direct quote either. I admit it isn’t all clear to me know. It did get contentious. Maybe I’ve forgotten some of that heated exchanges and maneuvering.

I don’t remember Hillary saying Obama wasn’t qualified to be president.

IIRC, there was some sort of 3AM phone call nonsense, but the language was always “I’d be better”, or “you should trust me instead”. It was never “he can’t do it”.

That is a massive difference.

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ObserverArt  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:17:10am

re: #188 Testy Toad T

IIRC, there was some sort of 3AM phone call nonsense, but the language was always “I’d be better”, or “you should trust me instead”. It was never “he can’t do it”.

That is a massive difference.

It’s Yoouuuuuge!

At least to me.

And with that…later. Got some web site coding to do.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:18:39am

What was the context of the ‘Shame on you, Barack Obama’?
All I remember is that I remember it.

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Dark_Falcon  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:19:24am

re: #184 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

So, I watched those videos Rage Furby posted and the gist is this: he thinks the media are not publishing UVa Jackie’s real name because they don’t want to give him credit for outing her.

Srsly

More at GotNwes.com

Also, Chuck is reading from a Twitter feed in front of him — “that I’m not supposed to have.”

Frankly, for me UpChuck is a joke that’s gotten somewhat old. This is just more hate spewing from him.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:25:42am

Apparently HRC had issues with public transport waypoint.
Made me chortle.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:26:10am

re: #186 Testy Toad T

It would have been funny to see 2016 Sanders attempt to campaign against an Obama who had lost to Clinton in 2008 and then served in her administration. I have no illusions, I get that Hillary Clinton is personally rather unpopular. I think that’s a big part of Sanders’ base, young liberals who grew up hearing nasty shit about the Clintons but were too young to be properly skeptical.

Obama would wipe the floor with Sanders so hard they’d have to ask Donald Trump to come build a yuuuuuge, classy replacement floor.

That would have been interesting.

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:29:47am

re: #141 Testy Toad T

It’s kind of remarkable that the more obnoxious of Sanders’ backers are so vitriolic that they make lifelong Democrats leery of openly discussing their support of Hillary freaking Clinton, but the facts are what they are.

Fortunately, we have a secret ballot in this country, so people can vote without getting shouted at by Reddit assholes.

Oh, that’s easily Bernsplained—you may be a lifelong Democrat, but you’re not a “true” Democrat, you’re a centrist who’s happy with the status quo and triangulation and (insert whatever they don’t like) and you’re not true to the ideals that the REAL Democrats (which is them) support. Just because you vote and work to advance the party and its platform and its candidates doesn’t make you a “real” Democrat unless you believe what they believe.

Plus, if you support Hillary, you’re either a low-information voter, a Southron from a state that doesn’t count, or you’re voting with your vagina (whether or not you have one.)

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:31:09am

I gotta get. Stoked to see what happens on the morrow.

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makeitstop  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:33:10am

One big caveat I learned about Brave - no downloads for 32-bit OS right now.

Boo.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:33:28am

re: #192 Alyosha

Apparently HRC had issues with public transport waypoint.
Made me chortle.

Speaking of Harry Potter: Ron’s dad, who’s supposed to be the one that understands how the muggle world works, trying to take the subway.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:34:31am

re: #194 BeachDem

Oh, that’s easily Bernsplained—you may be a lifelong Democrat, but you’re not a “true” Democrat, you’re a centrist who’s happy with the status quo and triangulation and (insert whatever they don’t like) and you’re not true to the ideals that the REAL Democrats (which is them) support. Just because you vote and work to advance the party and its platform and its candidates doesn’t make you a “real” Democrat unless you believe what they believe.

Plus, if you support Hillary, you’re either a low-information voter, a Southron from a state that doesn’t count, or you’re voting with your vagina (whether or not you have one.)

Between Bernsplain and Malinform, I’m liking hte lingo you and TTT have come up with. It’s really that just drives me crazy. As young as I am, it even annoys me to see people who have not been around not that long telling people who have worked hard for progressive and Democratic causes that they’re ignorant because they’re not supporting Bernie. I’ve read a lot of anecdotes about ti and frankly these people need to grow the fuck up.

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:39:08am

re: #175 Testy Toad T

I started reading the actual transcript of the NYDN interview. It honestly made me sick to my stomach.

I wonder how many of Sanders’ supporters have actually listened to him talk, or read what he writes. I know, I know this sounds like some kind of old fogey get-off-my-lawn sentiment. I’m 35, I do the facebooks, I understand social media at least a little. But damn if it doesn’t look like a populist whirlwind spun up around the dream-unicorn candidate everyone wishes Sanders embodied, rather than a doddering old fool who bitches that his electronic trinket isn’t made in ‘Murrica anymore and doesn’t understand that the world will never again work that way.

I know I’ve said this before, but way back in early 2015, when Bernie had just announced and came to our state convention, I found his speech, while fiery and sincere, utterly depressing. It was 30 minutes of shouting about everything that’s wrong and nothing about how to change it. At the time, I thought Martin O’Malley was so much better, and I remain surprised that he faded so quickly and thoroughly.

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The Engineer Lobuno  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:39:27am

re: #196 makeitstop

One big caveat I learned about Brave - no downloads for 32-bit OS right now.

Boo.

It seems unlikely. I couldn’t find a version of Node.JS for win32.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:39:40am

I dunno Hillary, that article on the right side of the page is not something to be happy about.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:41:26am

Fuck it. One more. Good move.

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:42:14am

re: #177 Testy Toad T

It’s pretty fascinating to watch everything as somebody who was staunchly pro-Hillary’s-opponent (cf. anti-Hillary) in 2008 and staunchly pro-Hillary in 2016.

Ditto. I went from Edwards to Obama in 2008 and am all in for Hillary this year.

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The Engineer Lobuno  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:42:38am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

I dunno Hillary, that article on the right side of the page is not something to be happy about.

[Embedded content]

Cropping is not an exclusive function of Photoshop, Hillary.

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:42:54am

Google Glass went from new to tested to vintage in less time than it takes a kitten to become a full grown cat. Now we have a contact lens camera patent.
petapixel.com

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makeitstop  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:43:12am

re: #200 The Engineer Lobuno

It seems unlikely. I couldn’t find a version of Node.JS for win32.

Too bad. Nice browser, runs like a demon on my 64-bit machine.

Oh, well. Maybe one of these days…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:43:25am

re: #191 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, for me UpChuck is a joke that’s gotten somewhat old. This is just more hate spewing from him.

His other “story” attempts to justify Trump taxing immigrants by quoting long sections from New York Times and other articles. Just copy-and-paste shit that’s patently a copyright violation.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:43:56am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

What is it? I can’t see it from work.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:45:04am

re: #208 Belafon

What is it? I can’t see it from work.

U.S Steel is going to slash a lot of its workforce.

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Alyosha  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:46:58am

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

Steel industry here is in dire straits too. It’s a shitty situation when you’re saddled with a government that has to be prodded into investing in the kind of infrastructure projects that might bolster the manufacturing market.
Austerity sucks.
Gotta go now. For real.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:48:03am

I expect she’ll do well in Pittsburgh and Western Pa. She did quite well there last time.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:49:09am

re: #210 Alyosha

Steel industry here is in dire straits too. It’s a shitty situation when you’re saddled with a government that has to be prodded into investing in the kind of infrastructure projects that might bolster the manufacturing market.
Austerity sucks.
Gotta go now. For real.

And this will get worse as more things are automated. We’re going to have to rethink our entire economic structure as machines get smarter.

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Lidane  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:49:16am
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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:50:02am

re: #136 Dark_Falcon

That’s ARA Santísima Trinidad (D-2), one of the two British Type 42 destroyers acquired for the Argentine navy in the 1970s. Unlike her sister ship, ARA Hercules, Santissima Trinidad was actually built in Argentina. The Falklands War quite understandably shut off the supply of spare parts and the ship was put into reserve in 1989 and gradually cannibalized to keep Hercules running.
Santissima Trinidad has been sunk twice. The first time was in 1975, when leftist insurgents planted a limpet mine under the incomplete ship, causing severe damage that delayed completion. The second time (and the one pictured) was in 2013, when a valve failed and the mostly stripped hulk heeled over at its moorings. It was re-floated and is undergoing cosmetic restoration as a museum ship.
Hercules remains nominally operational as a command and training ship, with many alterations to replace unavailable British components.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:50:32am

re: #212 Belafon

And this will get worse as more things are automated. We’re going to have to rethink our entire economic structure as machines get smarter.

The article said they were cutting white-collar jobs. I didn’t think machines could program themselves.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:50:45am

re: #213 Lidane

They were showing it on GMA this morning at about 745. I taped the entire episode so I can watch it when I get home.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:51:50am

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

The article said they were cutting white-collar jobs. I didn’t think machines could program themselves.

Ok. My point doesn’t match the article.

Although that does make me think of something: If you don’t have as many people doing the labor, how much management do you need?

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Lidane  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:52:34am

re: #216 Belafon

They were showing it on GMA this morning at about 745. I taped the entire episode so I can watch it when I get home.

Here you go:

ROGUE ONE: A STAR WARS STORY Official Teaser Trailer

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:53:07am

re: #217 Belafon

Ok. My point doesn’t match the article.

Although that does make me think of something: If you don’t have as many people doing the labor, how much management do you need?

I wasn’t thinking of management as opposed to tech workers: engineers, programmers, probably moving those jobs to India or China.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:54:19am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:57:07am

lol, damn you Lidane. :D

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:57:29am

re: #206 makeitstop

Too bad. Nice browser, runs like a demon on my 64-bit machine.

Oh, well. Maybe one of these days…

I googled (well, StartPaged actually) the Brave browser and halfway down the page there’s this turd from Breitfart:

Former Mozilla CEO Chased Off by SJWs Announces New Internet Browser ‘Brave’.

Anybody have any idea what’s rattling around in their empty heads? OTOH, if they approve of this guy, I dunno….

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 7:59:27am

re: #187 Belafon

This is the play that has the black actress playing Hermione (for you Doctor Who fans, she was in charge of UNIT for the 10th Doctor). We had a lively discussion here (mainly driven by Nyet) over whether it was OK to recast Hermione as a black woman.

I remember that now. My take: it’s fiction, who cares!

I loved how the wingers went nuts over Rue in the Hunger Games being cast as a black actress when Tue in the book was black.

Wingnuts. Can’t appease them no matter what. We can only laugh at them. :-D

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:01:21am

re: #192 Alyosha

Apparently HRC had issues with public transport waypoint.
Made me chortle.

[Embedded content]

I think it was in that NYDN article that Bernie said he took the subway to the meeting (with the editors) and said he used a token…which haven’t been used in NY in some time.

Oops.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:01:40am

re: #214 Shiplord Kirel

That’s ARA Santísima Trinidad (D-2), one of the two British Type 42 destroyers acquired for the Argentine navy in the 1970s. Unlike her sister ship, ARA Hercules, Santissima Trinidad was actually built in Argentina. The Falklands War quite understandably shut off the supply of spare parts and the ship was put into reserve in 1989 and gradually cannibalized to keep Hercules running.
Santissima Trinidad has been sunk twice. The first time was in 1975, when leftist insurgents planted a limpet mine under the incomplete ship, causing severe damage that delayed completion. The second time (and the one pictured) was in 2013, when a valve failed and the mostly stripped hulk heeled over at its moorings. It was re-floated and is undergoing cosmetic restoration as a museum ship.
Hercules remains nominally operational as a command and training ship, with many alterations to replace unavailable British components.

Quite a comedown for that name after the Santísima Trinidad, 140, sunk at Trafalgar.

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KingKenrod  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:02:33am

re: #222 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I googled (well, StartPaged actually) the Brave browser and halfway down the page there’s this turd from Breitfart:

Former Mozilla CEO Chased Off by SJWs Announces New Internet Browser ‘Brave’.

Anybody have any idea what’s rattling around in their empty heads? OTOH, if they approve of this guy, I dunno….

I think he supported Prop 8.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:02:53am

re: #194 BeachDem

Oh, that’s easily Bernsplained—you may be a lifelong Democrat, but you’re not a “true” Democrat, you’re a centrist who’s happy with the status quo and triangulation and (insert whatever they don’t like) and you’re not true to the ideals that the REAL Democrats (which is them) support. Just because you vote and work to advance the party and its platform and its candidates doesn’t make you a “real” Democrat unless you believe what they believe.

Plus, if you support Hillary, you’re either a low-information voter, a Southron from a state that doesn’t count, or you’re voting with your vagina (whether or not you have one.)

I had a freaking Bernie bot tell me I was a conservative republican because I expected reality from a candidate.

Think about that.

The last thing I’d call a GOPer these days is realistic.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:05:31am

re: #227 MsJ

I had a freaking Bernie bot tell me I was a conservative republican because I expected reality from a candidate.

Think about that.

The last thing I’d call a GOPer these days is realistic.

Jesus. Fortunately for me most of the Bernie supporters I know are pretty sane especially the family members.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:07:54am

re: #226 KingKenrod

I think he supported Prop 8.

Yes. Firefox sucks anyhow.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:08:23am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Jesus. Fortunately for me most of the Bernie supporters I know are pretty sane especially the family members.

The ones I know in person are all sane, and none of them think Clinton is some kind of monster, and all of them profess that they’ll come around and vote for her in November if it comes to that (lol). But none of them, not a one, can seem to wrap their minds around the idea that I support Clinton because I like her better and I think she’s a better candidate.

It’s all “well what’s wrong with Bernie!?!?1”, which is incredibly tiresome.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:08:47am

re: #227 MsJ

I had a freaking Bernie bot tell me I was a conservative republican because I expected reality from a candidate.

Think about that.

The last thing I’d call a GOPer these days is realistic.

Speaking of reality, I got this from a Bernie-bot this morning:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:10:06am

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of reality, I got this from a Bernie-bot this morning:

Embedded Image

Uh huh.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:10:06am

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

Hostage-taking is such an ugly look.

Guess what, Bernerbots? There are more than enough Clinton supporters to nuke a Sanders candidacy, more supporters than Sanders has himself. But we put the good of the country ahead of this pathetic pissing contest.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:10:13am

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

Nice salute there, Bernie!

/

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:10:44am

re: #230 Testy Toad T

The ones I know in person are all sane, and none of them think Clinton is some kind of monster, and all of them profess that they’ll come around and vote for her in November if it comes to that (lol). But none of them, not a one, can seem to wrap their minds around the idea that I support Clinton because I like her better and I think she’s a better candidate.

It’s all “well what’s wrong with Bernie!?!?1”, which is incredibly tiresome.

That does seem to be a common thread.

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Lidane  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:11:59am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:12:52am

re: #233 Testy Toad T

Hostage-taking is such an ugly look.

Guess what, Bernerbots? There are more than enough Clinton supporters to nuke a Sanders candidacy, more supporters than Sanders has himself. But we put the good of the country ahead of this pathetic pissing contest.

I’m sick of ideological purity contests. I mean if they want to play purity games, let’s talk bluntly about Bernie’s record on immigration. Steve King has praised him no less. Think about. One of the biggest bigots when it comes to immigration and immigrants has praised Bernie Sanders’ record on immigrants. Now, some of it is probably King trying to stir shit up but there’s another side of it too which is that Sanders by being from a lily white state and even though he’s a son of immigrants himself has no real understanding of what today’s immigrants are going through.

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bratwurst  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:14:13am

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of reality, I got this from a Bernie-bot this morning:

Embedded Image

I would have a lot more respect for Bernie if he had embraced the fact he is NOT a Democrat from the start and not attempted to run as one.

It seems like if you are going to try to be the standard bearer for a political party, you should actually be a member of that party, and for more than a few months.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:14:37am

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel

Speaking of reality, I got this from a Bernie-bot this morning:

[Embedded content]

Dear BernieBots,
In that case, go form your own damn party.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:16:10am

re: #239 Not a Sparkly Vampire

QUP - Quote Unquote Party.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:16:53am

re: #238 bratwurst

I would have a lot more respect for Bernie if he had embraced the fact he is NOT a Democrat from the start and not attempted to run as one.

I think that’s why I laugh at when I hear the DNC bashed for how they’ve treated him. They didn’t have to let him run and they’ve helped fund his past campaigns. What really has started to bug me about Bernie is how it is increasingly apparent that he’s not a team player. He’s still not committing to campaigning for other Democrats if he’s nominated and I have to say after seeing the Boehner and now Ryan House of Representatives, I just want to ask Bernie what the fuck is he thinking? It’s like he thinks he’ll be swept along with a Democratic majority and it’s just so foolish and so stubborn. There’s a reason why this man has been in Congress for over 20 years and his Congressional endorsements can be counted on your hands.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:17:47am

I’ve posted this once before, but I’ll do it again in case anyone missed it the first time. Looking at the various categories will give you a good idea of what the wingnuts are pushing on any given day/week:

Right Wing Art - Newest free images of All categories for conservatives.

Yes, the content is every bit as unhinged as you’d expect.

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:20:21am

Who first brought up Brave? MakeitStop? I like it. Owe ya a coffee. Or beer. Sweet on this 64 bit Win7 station.

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dharmamark  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:21:04am

re: #243 Great White Snark

Working great on my 2008 MacBook as well.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:22:03am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

What really has started to bug me about Bernie is how it is increasingly apparent that he’s not a team player.

When it all comes down to it, a political party is nothing more and nothing less than a team of people trying to advance a common goal.

One should be hugely, staggeringly skeptical of anybody with an independent background who runs for an executive position.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:23:17am

I re: #245 Testy Toad T

When it all comes down to it, a political party is nothing more and nothing less than a team of people trying to advance a common goal.

One should be hugely, staggeringly skeptical of anybody with an independent background who runs for an executive position.

A good point.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:25:53am

re: #243 Great White Snark

Who first brought up Brave? MakeitStop? I like it. Owe ya a coffee. Or beer. Sweet on this 64 bit Win7 station.

So, based on the life of Chrome, Brave will be the most awesome browser ever for about 4 or 5 years. Over time it will try to support more and more features required of users and the internet until it becomes bloated and slow. And then we’ll get the Inside-Out web browser, actually brought to you by Disney.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:29:57am

re: #210 Alyosha

Steel industry here is in dire straits too. It’s a shitty situation when you’re saddled with a government that has to be prodded into investing in the kind of infrastructure projects that might bolster the manufacturing market.
Austerity sucks.
Gotta go now. For real.

While we are dealing with ancient infrastructure in steel manufacturing the rest of the world is much newer since they started their steel operations much later than we did.

Is it really the government who needs to invest in keeping their manufacturing at the latest levels to compete against the world? I can see partial investment but these are for profit companies. I am really quite torn here.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:30:02am

re: #226 KingKenrod

I think he supported Prop 8.

Crap, he wrote the plague that is Javascript, too? Fuck this guy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:32:43am

re: #248 MsJ

While we are dealing with ancient infrastructure in steel manufacturing the rest of the world is much newer since they started their steel operations much later than we did.

Is it really the government who needs to invest in keeping their manufacturing at the latest levels to compete against the world? I can see partial investment but these are for profit companies. I am really quite torn here.

The corporations see how much cheaper it is to produce steel in China so they move all their operations there rather than update the infrastructure here.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:33:12am

re: #197 Belafon

Not quite accurate.

He wanted to know how the Muggle World worked, and did tinkering.

He didn’t actually know that much.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:34:56am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Hell, I am the same age as many of them, and they annoy the shit out of me.

I have also done volunteering politically. Right after I turned 18, I volunteered as a petitioner to get Liberal issues on the Fall 2008 Ballot.

And in 2012, I volunteered for the Obama Campaign.

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makeitstop  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:35:11am

re: #243 Great White Snark

Who first brought up Brave? MakeitStop? I like it. Owe ya a coffee. Or beer. Sweet on this 64 bit Win7 station.

Someone mentioned it here yesterday and I went looking.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:35:21am

re: #244 dharmamark

Working great on my 2008 MacBook as well.

I downloaded it, to discover I can’t even import my bookmarks—except by typing them into an HTML file, I guess? Calling up AppCleaner.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:35:24am

re: #248 MsJ

Is it really the government who needs to invest in keeping their manufacturing at the latest levels to compete against the world? I can see partial investment but these are for profit companies. I am really quite torn here.

Fighting to hold the old world steady in the face of modern advances is no less a losing battle with steel than it is with gay marriage. I am saddened by the loss of jobs in Pittsburgh just as I am with the rest of the rust belt, or with manufacturing in general, but wanting these jobs hard enough is not a recipe for retaining them.

There’s a broader conversation to be had here, of course, in the face of ever-rising per-worker productivity and necessarily bounded demand for produced goods. We’re going to need to come to grips, sooner or later, with the fact that we don’t need all potential workers working in order to keep everybody supplied. No idea how a country like this is going to handle what might be derogatorily termed a “welfare economy”, but it’ll need to happen.

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:35:51am

re: #248 MsJ

Second wave has the advantage always. Pioneers get arrows, settlers get farms. India got to skip over copper wire phones, straight to cell. China to some degree. It pays to be second. They don’t have to invent or innovate, the most risky and very costly parts of the process.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:37:03am

re: #256 Great White Snark

Secxond wave has the advantage always. Pioneers get arrows, settlers get farms. India got to skip over copper wire phones, straight to cell. China to some degree. It pays to be second.

There is an important point buried here with regards to military-industrial budgets and R&D spending.

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makeitstop  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:37:15am

re: #247 Belafon

So, based on the life of Chrome, Brave will be the most awesome browser ever for about 4 or 5 years. Over time it will try to support more and more features required of users and the internet until it becomes bloated and slow. And then we’ll get the Inside-Out web browser, actually brought to you by Disney.

Pretty much. :)

I was just looking for a remedy for Chrome’s sluggishness, especially as regards LGF.

Brave seems to handle whatever’s in here that Chrome bogs down on, even with the ad blocker turned off. Works for me, until the next Most Awesome Browser Ever comes along.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:38:04am

Bernie sent me an email. I didn’t read it, and deleted it. He’s co-opted the moveon mail list.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:38:04am

re: #233 Testy Toad T

Hostage-taking is such an ugly look.

Guess what, Bernerbots? There are more than enough Clinton supporters to nuke a Sanders candidacy, more supporters than Sanders has himself. But we put the good of the country ahead of this pathetic pissing contest.

It’s as though the compelling need to defeat the insane Republicans does not register on them at all. They almost seem to be emphasizing that they are privileged enough not to worry about the consequences.
They won’t lose their health care if ACA is repealed. Good for them, I am impressed. I won’t either. It is utterly immoral, though, not to give a shit about the millions who will.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:38:56am

re: #259 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Bernie sent me an email. I didn’t read it, and deleted it. He’s co-opted the moveon mail list.

I wish he’d co-opt the idea of moving on from an unwinnable primary election.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:39:24am

re: #259 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Bernie sent me an email. I didn’t read it, and deleted it. He’s co-opted the moveon mail list.

MoveOn is all-Bernie, all the time.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:39:37am

re: #253 makeitstop

Someone mentioned it here yesterday and I went looking.

Maybe it was me. Still using Opera mostly, because all my bookmarks are on it. Brave is *really* stripped down. The settings menu is sparse.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:40:56am

re: #260 Shiplord Kirel

It’s as though the compelling need to defeat the insane Republicans does not register on them at all. They almost seem to be emphasizing that they are privileged enough not to worry about the consequences.
They won’t lose their health care if ACA is repealed. Good for them, I am impressed. I won’t either. It is utterly immoral, though, not to give a shit about the millions who will.

Exactly.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:41:17am

IE6 FOREVER!
/

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:41:47am

re: #262 Decatur Deb

MoveOn is all-Bernie, all the time.

Oh, yeah. Fellow travelers and all that. I subscribed to their mail list back in the Bush days and never opted out.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:41:59am

In the future, we’ll build a small neural net that is able to analyze the contents of a video and provide a text summary. Then people will tout this new browser called Lynx.

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TedStriker  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:43:32am

re: #218 Lidane

Here you go:

[Embedded content]

Video

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:43:48am

re: #267 Belafon

In the future, we’ll build a small neural net that is able to analyze the contents of a video and provide a text summary. Then people will tout this new browser called Lynx.

which will eventually add an image upload feature, followed by video and 3D holographic projection.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:46:07am

re: #252 Ziggy_TARDIS

Hell, I am the same age as many of them, and they annoy the shit out of me.

I have also done volunteering politically. Right after I turned 18, I volunteered as a petitioner to get Liberal issues on the Fall 2008 Ballot.

And in 2012, I volunteered for the Obama Campaign.

Yeah I did a lot when I was younger too. Not as active now but I did plenty. I mean I don’t want to hold their youth over them as an albatross. I commend them for being young and fighting for something they believe in but they have to realize that people are going to disagree with them even within their own ideology. I mean, I’ll admit that I had a problem and I criticized it when Gloria Steinem implied a lot of young women supporting Bernie were only doing so to attract me. I thought that was wrong too but most of the condescending crap has come from Camp Bernie frankly.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:46:48am

re: #242 CuriousLurker

Hee. I like this one:

Hillary is an enemy of free speech!

If so, why are these assholes still running around loose?

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:46:59am

re: #259 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Bernie sent me an email. I didn’t read it, and deleted it. He’s co-opted the moveon mail list.

But if you got a similar email from Hillary (with a similar simple explanation about how she got your info) it would be because she nefariously infiltrated Bernie’s proprietary information and usurped his righteous network of true Democrats.
// (but I’ve actually seen that explanation offered up by Berners)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:49:42am

re: #272 BeachDem

But if you got a similar email from Hillary (with a similar simple explanation about how she got your info) it would be because she nefariously infiltrated Bernie’s proprietary information and usurped his righteous network of true Democrats.
// (but I’ve actually seen that explanation offered up by Berners)

I don’t doubt it.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:50:14am

Trump’s “Build the Wall” = Bernie’s “Break up Big Banks”. Both are impossible pipedreams and both are talking points placating low-information voters.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:50:22am

OK, time for bed. See you all anon.

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lizardofid  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:51:16am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

The corporations see how much cheaper it is to produce steel in China so they move all their operations there rather than update the infrastructure here.

To further complicate things, China is cutting capacity, and in the short term planning to dump production.

“Sagging demand has already impacted China’s steel industry. The State Council, China’s Cabinet, announced earlier last month that crude steel production capacity will be slashed by 100 million tonnes to 150 million tonnes over the next five years.”

“And all of that supply is about to be unloaded onto a world that doesn’t really need it right now.”

finance.yahoo.com

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:52:03am

re: #274 Dr. Matt

I do think the Big Banks need to be broken up, but he has no idea or plan to do so.

Perhaps we go take a page from history, and try and replicate the splitting of Standard Oil in 1911?

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:52:52am

re: #274 Dr. Matt

They broke up Ma Bell, they broke up Iraq, they can break up the banks. It’s won’t not can’t and that’s worth keeping in mind. One of these rthings is not at all like the other.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:53:25am

Big banks don’t need to be broken up. We just need to hold them responsible for when they fuck people over.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:53:47am

Frankly I don’t understand banking issues and I don’t know if Bernie does too.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:53:48am

re: #277 Ziggy_TARDIS

I do think the Big Banks need to be broken up, but he has no idea or plan to do so.

Hence, it’s a pipedream.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:54:18am

re: #276 lizardofid

To further complicate things, China is cutting capacity, and in the short term planning to dump production.

“Sagging demand has already impacted China’s steel industry. The State Council, China’s Cabinet, announced earlier last month that crude steel production capacity will be slashed by 100 million tonnes to 150 million tonnes over the next five years.”

“And all of that supply is about to be unloaded onto a world that doesn’t really need it right now.”

finance.yahoo.com

Short-term profits (quarterly reporting) is what drives all corporate activity.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:55:20am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Frankly I don’t understanding banking issues and I don’t know if Bernie does too.

Don’t want to know about fractional-reserve banking?

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:55:27am

re: #250 The Vicious Babushka

The corporations see how much cheaper it is to produce steel in China so they move all their operations there rather than update the infrastructure here.

And I do not see any way out of that without making American workers be happy with scraps.

We do services very well and need smarter people. We are never going to get manufacturing back to what it was and if we don’t educate our citizens better we are all in for a very bad period.

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:55:36am

re: #279 GlutenFreeJesus

I think you have to break them down to re establish the check and balance aka balance of power.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:56:25am

re: #283 Timothy Watson

Don’t want to know about fractional-reserve banking?

It is just sooooooooo dry for me.

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Lidane  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:56:28am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:56:51am

Via Richard Mayhew @ Balloon Juice:

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:57:23am

re: #281 Dr. Matt

True.

I was approaching it from another point of view, whether the goal itself might be possible at all.

I think it is. What we are going through now is not to dissimilar to the Gilded Age that ran from the 1870’s to WWI. Looking for the solutions of back then may give clues to dealing with similar problems now.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:57:45am

re: #279 GlutenFreeJesus

Big banks don’t need to be broken up. We just need to hold them responsible for when they fuck people over.

BINGO. His obsession with Wall Street and “breaking up big banks” is just narrow-minded, uber librul bullshit. It’s not equivalent to Ma Bell or any other false equivalence. Wall Street is not just the financial capital of the US, but it’s one of the financial capitals of the world. He has no worldly idea how to do this, and, in fact, no one does. It’s bullshit and [again] a pipedream.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:58:44am

re: #255 Testy Toad T

Fighting to hold the old world steady in the face of modern advances is no less a losing battle with steel than it is with gay marriage. I am saddened by the loss of jobs in Pittsburgh just as I am with the rest of the rust belt, or with manufacturing in general, but wanting these jobs hard enough is not a recipe for retaining them.

There’s a broader conversation to be had here, of course, in the face of ever-rising per-worker productivity and necessarily bounded demand for produced goods. We’re going to need to come to grips, sooner or later, with the fact that we don’t need all potential workers working in order to keep everybody supplied. No idea how a country like this is going to handle what might be derogatorily termed a “welfare economy”, but it’ll need to happen.

Coupled with unbridled reproduction (sorry, we simply have too many humans on earth) we are going to have a rough go. Resources on this planet cannot continue to support billions upon billions upon billions. Nor can industry give all these people jobs. Nor can all people handle higher level jobs.

It’s going to become worse and, honestly, I have no idea how to make it better.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:58:45am

Just got some robocall from a Kansas area code, which left a generic voicemail telling me to call their office number (I generally don’t pick up numbers I don’t recognize). Some googling suggests the number is affiliated with some sort of IRS lawsuit scam crap.

I worry for my parents and grandparents. I feel a little lost and predated upon, and it’s only going to get worse from here on out.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:58:56am

re: #285 Great White Snark

Not to mention, if something goes wrong at one of the big banks, it’s a lot more expensive to deal with than if a smaller bank turns turtle.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:59:08am

Bernie Sanders doesn’t know enough about foreign policy, pros say

True, but in fairness to Bernie (though not to his increasingly unhinged supporters) he still knows more than all the Republican candidates put together.

Trump and Cruz in fact know less than nothing, since most of what they believe consists of RW media fantasies (“no go” zones in Birmingham, etc.) that bear no resemblance to the kind of life and death decisions President Obama has to make every day.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 8:59:46am

re: #258 makeitstop

Pretty much. :)

I was just looking for a remedy for Chrome’s sluggishness, especially as regards LGF.

Brave seems to handle whatever’s in here that Chrome bogs down on, even with the ad blocker turned off. Works for me, until the next Most Awesome Browser Ever comes along.

Pale Moon. I love that browser. It’s a Firefox based broswer that is like 100x faster than FF.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:00:51am

re: #259 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Bernie sent me an email. I didn’t read it, and deleted it. He’s co-opted the moveon mail list.

Moveon gave it to him. They were championing him for a while. I got tired of it and barely read any of their emails any longer.

I get more damned email from Bernie - whom I have never supported.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:00:58am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel

Bernie Sanders doesn’t know enough about foreign policy, pros say

True, but in fairness to Bernie (though not to his increasingly unhinged supporters) he still knows more than all the Republican candidates put together.

Trump and Cruz in fact know less than nothing, since most of what they believe consists of RW media fantasies (“no go” zones in Birmingham, etc.) that bear no resemblance to the kind of life and death decisions President Obama has to make every day.

To borrow from Ronnie Raygun, it’s not what they don’t know, it’s what they ‘know’ that’s wrong.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:01:35am

re: #260 Shiplord Kirel

It’s as though the compelling need to defeat the insane Republicans does not register on them at all. They almost seem to be emphasizing that they are privileged enough not to worry about the consequences.
They won’t lose their health care if ACA is repealed. Good for them, I am impressed. I won’t either. It is utterly immoral, though, not to give a shit about the millions who will.

Leave it to “democrats” to fuck up taking advantage of the implosion of the GOP.

It’s enough to make me want to scream.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:01:37am

re: #278 Great White Snark

They broke up Ma Bell, they broke up Iraq, they can break up the banks. It’s won’t not can’t and that’s worth keeping in mind. One of these rthings is not at all like the other.

The Republicans have the ultimate anti-trust plan: They want to break up the United States.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:01:43am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel

Bernie Sanders doesn’t know enough about foreign policy, pros say

True, but in fairness to Bernie (though not to his increasingly unhinged supporters) he still knows more than all the Republican candidates put together.

Trump and Cruz in fact know less than nothing, since most of what they believe consists of RW media fantasies (“no go” zones in Birmingham, etc.) that bear no resemblance to the kind of life and death decisions President Obama has to make every day.

And that’s a problem. I’m probably more dovish than Clinton but in the end, I’ll trade for someone more hawkish than me but more knowledgeable about the world around us than someone who may be more dovish like me. Plus as Sergey has talked, Sanders seems to have a lot of ignorance about FP too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:02:29am

re: #295 MsJ

Pale Moon. I love that browser. It’s a Firefox based broswer that is like 100x faster than FF.

Not available for OS X, unfortunately.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:03:16am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

And that’s a problem. I’m probably more dovish than Clinton but in the end, I’ll trade for someone more hawkish than me but more knowledgeable about the world around us than someone who may be more dovish like me. Plus as Sergey has talked, Sanders seems to have a lot of ignorance about FP too.

His FP seems to be limited to voting no on Iraq and hating any trade deal. Beyond that it’s nebulous as all hell.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:03:21am
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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:03:29am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel

Bernie Sanders doesn’t know enough about foreign policy, pros say

True, but in fairness to Bernie (though not to his increasingly unhinged supporters) he still knows more than all the Republican candidates put together.

Trump and Cruz in fact know less than nothing, since most of what they believe consists of RW media fantasies (“no go” zones in Birmingham, etc.) that bear no resemblance to the kind of life and death decisions President Obama has to make every day.

The two immediate things I list for my support of Clinton over Sanders is her foreign policy knowledge and experience over his, and his tendency to make everything about economics.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:03:36am

re: #302 Blind Frog Belly White

His FP seems to be limited to voting no on Iraq and hating any trade deal. Beyond that it’s nebulous as all hell.

Yes. No beef.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:04:01am

re: #285 Great White Snark

If people use one bank for all their needs, breaking them up will just make things worse.

They get away with taking advantage of people because they know when they cause a recession, they’ll just get bailed out, while suffering no consequences. That’s what needs to change IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:04:16am

re: #304 Belafon

The two immediate things I list for my support of Clinton over Sanders is her foreign policy knowledge and experience over his, and his tendency to make everything about economics.

Two solid strikes in her favor as far as I’m concerned.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:04:48am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

But he voted against the war in Iraq. That’s all anyone needs to be the chosen one.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:05:04am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

I actually don’t mind hawkish-ness, depending on the nation being discussed.

The only big thing I am even a little worried about with Clinton is Iran, and perhaps giving too much leeway to Israel, but overall, I think she is very good.

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Jenner7  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:06:10am

Bill Deblasio says Bernie has said he will support the Dem nominee if it’s not him. Has he though??

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:06:58am

re: #309 Ziggy_TARDIS

I actually don’t mind hawkish-ness, depending on the nation being discussed.

The only big thing I am even a little worried about with Clinton is Iran, and perhaps giving too much leeway to Israel, but overall, I think she is very good.

You’re right. It should be on a country by country basis. I just meant overall I personally am more dovish than her. I’m in that awkward position though of being dovish than Clinton but perhaps a little more hawkish than Bernie. I try not to view things in abstract since I really think a case on case basis is the best thing to do. I’m probably best described as a realist with dovish tendencies.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:07:30am

re: #310 Jenner7

Bill Deblasio says Bernie has said he will support the Dem nominee if it’s not him. Has he though??

Probably has but has done little to support them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:08:32am

re: #310 Jenner7

Bill Deblasio says Bernie has said he will support the Dem nominee if it’s not him. Has he though??

“Support” = “yeah go ahead and vote for her for all I care. I’m going back to Vermont.”

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FlowerPower  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:09:59am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

And that’s a problem. I’m probably more dovish than Clinton but in the end, I’ll trade for someone more hawkish than me but more knowledgeable about the world around us than someone who may be more dovish like me. Plus as Sergey has talked, Sanders seems to have a lot of ignorance about FP too.

I’m in the same boat.

I’m in Vermont and have always liked that Sanders was a bit kooky, like we were, but when he announced he was running I felt a huge sense of dread. This has grown into full-fledged embarrassment. Idealistically I align more with him than against him, but sitting squarely in reality just makes it glaringly obvious that he’s not prepared for overseeing the entire country.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:11:40am

re: #314 FlowerPower

I’m in the same boat.

I’m in Vermont and was always liked that Sanders was a bit kooky, like we were, but when he announced he was running I felt a huge sense of dread. This has grown into full-fledged embarrassment. Idealistically I align more with him than against him, but sitting squarely in reality just makes it glaringly obvious that he’s not prepared for overseeing the entire country.

It’s interesting to hear a Vermonter’s perspective on him. But right, he hasn’t shown me anyhow that he’s prepared to oversee the entire country. So much of his support seems to be “Well Bernie was right about such and such issue) and props to him when he has been right on these issues, I mean that sincerely but that doesn’t mean he’s prepared to be President.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:12:18am

re: #314 FlowerPower

Idealistically I align more with him than against him, but sitting squarely in reality just makes it glaringly obvious that he’s not prepared for overseeing the entire country.

Worse, he seems uninterested in becoming more prepared. He does not give me an intellectually curious vibe the way Obama very much did. Everything that could ever be known is already known, and that is noun verb Wall Street.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:12:19am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

Having an overall “Doctrine,” aside from perhaps intervening in Humanitarian situations (Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya, perhaps South Sudan in the future) where we can make a difference is silly.

We should be extending an olive branch to Iran, but at the same time have our swords out for Russia. And try to tamp down Russian influence in Europe, which was on display yesterday in the Netherlands. Apparently, Geert Wilders supported the no vote, and wants to dismantle the EU.

He has recently come out in support of “getting rid” of the Moroccans in the Netherlands too, and supports Trump.

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Whack-A-Mole  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:12:27am

The full Rogue One trailer is here.

Sorry I couldn’t get it to embed.

I have to say, this looks really amazing. I’m more stoked for this than I am Episode 8.

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Jenner7  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:12:43am

And Jeff Weaver is on MSNBC now….

“Hillary said it without saying it…”

“Her campaign was trying to disqualify him, got caught doing it, and now trying to pull back on it…”

This guy is delusional.

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Great White Snark  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:12:49am

re: #298 MsJ

Leave it to “democrats” to fuck up taking advantage of the implosion of the GOP.

It’s enough to make me want to scream.

One party too many (GOP) and one too few (Dems)

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:13:18am

re: #319 Jenner7

And Jeff Weaver is on MSNBC now….

“Hillary said it without saying it…”

That’s okay. Bernie became a Democrat without becoming a Democrat.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:14:43am

re: #319 Jenner7

And Jeff Weaver is on MSNBC now….

“Hillary said it without saying it…”

“Her campaign was trying to disqualify him, got caught doing it, and now trying to pull back on it…”

This guy is delusional.

His campaign is a bunch of amateurs between Weaver and Devine.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:14:54am

Are there any other recent examples of ideological window-shifting campaigns (e.g. Graham’s all-war-all-the-time bid) accidentally becoming relatively serious ones? I’d be curious to study the history a little, and see how other candidates handled the endgame.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:14:59am

re: #318 Whack-A-Mole

Tom Baker has landed an unknown Star Wars role too. Not sure where.

But his voice is instantly recognizable.

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FlowerPower  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:15:34am

re: #316 Testy Toad T

Worse, he seems uninterested in becoming more prepared. He does not give me an intellectually curious vibe the way Obama very much did. Everything that could ever be known is already known, and that is noun verb Wall Street.

Totally agree.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:15:44am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

His campaign is a bunch of amateurs between Weaver and Devine.

If you can’t pick competent campaign advisors, I don’t trust you to pick good cabinet members or policy advisors. This is one point where it’s very nice to see how much Clinton has grown up since 2008.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:17:18am

re: #326 Testy Toad T

If you can’t pick competent campaign advisors, I don’t trust you to pick good cabinet members or policy advisors. This is one point where it’s very nice to see how much Clinton has grown up since 2008.

Yes. This absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:18:02am

re: #316 Testy Toad T

Worse, he seems uninterested in becoming more prepared. He does not give me an intellectually curious vibe the way Obama very much did. Everything that could ever be known is already known, and that is noun verb Wall Street.

Also a great point. He seems like he has his mind figured out already. I don’t want that in a president.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:18:15am

re: #319 Jenner7

And Jeff Weaver is on MSNBC now….

“Hillary said it without saying it…”

“Her campaign was trying to disqualify him, got caught doing it, and now trying to pull back on it…”

This guy is delusional.

Kasich’s campaign manager is named Weaver, too.

Too many Weavers in this here campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:19:01am

re: #329 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Kasich’s campaign manager is named Weaver, too.

Too many Weavers in this here campaign.

Earl would be good.

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:19:20am

re: #296 MsJ

Moveon gave it to him. They were championing him for a while. I got tired of it and barely read any of their emails any longer.

I get more damned email from Bernie - whom I have never supported.

Just checked my spam file to see how many Berners I’ve received today, and among the detritus is a spammer about that usual $7.5 million awaiting my email reply in order to claim it, but this one actually has the balls to sign it with the name of an actual NY Supreme Court Judge!

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:19:57am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel

Bernie Sanders doesn’t know enough about foreign policy, pros say

True, but in fairness to Bernie (though not to his increasingly unhinged supporters) he still knows more than all the Republican candidates put together.

Trump and Cruz in fact know less than nothing, since most of what they believe consists of RW media fantasies (“no go” zones in Birmingham, etc.) that bear no resemblance to the kind of life and death decisions President Obama has to make every day.

I don’t know if that is true. Trump, for sure. The others…maybe, maybe not. That said I would trust Bernie more on FP than I would anyone in the GOP because their idea of FP is to bomb someone (anyone) out of existence.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:21:30am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

And that’s a problem. I’m probably more dovish than Clinton but in the end, I’ll trade for someone more hawkish than me but more knowledgeable about the world around us than someone who may be more dovish like me. Plus as Sergey has talked, Sanders seems to have a lot of ignorance about FP too.

His FP discussions from the “debates” scared the crap out of me. He is so in over his head it’s stunning.

That said, at least we know he won’t bomb the crap out of some random country just because.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:23:01am

re: #324 Ziggy_TARDIS

Tom Baker has landed an unknown Star Wars role too. Not sure where.

But his voice is instantly recognizable.

Especially if he says, “Would you like a jelly baby?”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:23:02am

Weaver’s complaint sounds like Charles Krauthammer complaining that the Democrats would have opposed a replacement SCOTUS judge in an election year. It’s a complaint based off of something that hasn’t actually happened. Bernie was stupid enough to say that Clinton wasn’t qualified. He can bitch all he wants but he did say it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:24:15am

re: #329 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

“Are you ready Weaver?!”

UHF - Wheel Of Fish

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BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:25:46am

re: #329 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Kasich’s campaign manager is named Weaver, too.

Too many Weavers in this here campaign.

And in both cases they’re

Gary Wright - DreamWeaver Official Video

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:25:48am

re: #304 Belafon

The two immediate things I list for my support of Clinton over Sanders is her foreign policy knowledge and experience over his, and his tendency to make everything about economics.

It’s not even that he makes everything about economics. He makes it about Wall Street and Big Banks. That’s his answer to everything.

Not enough jobs? WALL STREET!

Not enough well paying jobs? BIG BANKS!

North Korea? WALL STREET! (with maybe a side of CHINA!)

ISIS? WALL STREET!

Sorry, but not everything ties to Wall Street or banking and not every issue can be responded to as such.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:26:12am

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

Clinton isn’t only facing a possible indictment, but also Sanders & millions of voters sick of status quo politics

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Decatur Deb  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:27:41am

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

Salon used to seem sane.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:27:50am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

His campaign is a bunch of amateurs between Weaver and Devine.

And we won’t even get into surrogates. They all have sucked.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:27:52am

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

Oh, honey. Stop trying to make indictment happen. It’s not going to happen.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:28:13am

re: #336 GlutenFreeJesus

“Are you ready Weaver?!”

[Embedded content]

Larger

Hey it’s Long John Dong from that Mollie Ringwald movie.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:28:54am

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

COLLAPSING!!!!!

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:31:09am

re: #342 Testy Toad T

Oh, honey. Stop trying to make indictment happen. It’s not going to happen.

It’s the deus ex machina in both RWNJ and Bernie-bot scripts.

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MsJ  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:31:38am

re: #331 BeachDem

Just checked my spam file to see how many Berners I’ve received today, and among the detritus is a spammer about that usual $7.5 million awaiting my email reply in order to claim it, but this one actually has the balls to sign it with the name of an actual NY Supreme Court Judge!

My spam emails these days (and yes, these are real):
- Doctor’s turn to Jesus?
- Science Proves Biblical Cure (Atheists Stunned)
- AVAILABLE: Your First Paid Survey (more than 100 of these)
- Your 2 tickets could be ready for pickup today. (about 50 of these…we’re gonna travle the world!

None today about Trump. Yet. Usually those are Trump in trouble or Trump Secrets.

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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:32:11am
348
BeachDem  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:32:38am

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

I assumed it was HA Goodman before I went to check. Uh huh. That guy is delusional (and there will probably be at least 5 wrecklist diaries at kos expounding on his brilliant analysis within the hour.)

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Lidane  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:33:06am
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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:33:32am

re: #346 MsJ

I, somehow, ended up on nutjob E.W. Jackson’s (former Republican nominee for Lieutenant Governor in Virginia) nutjob new group’s e-mail list the other week. Just reading the subject lines lost me a couple brain cells.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:34:11am

Does anybody have handy the link to that long and thoughtful legal analysis regarding EMAILZZZ!gate? I actually have been meaning to share that with some friends.

It was shared here within the last week.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:34:20am

re: #340 Decatur Deb

Salon was never sane overall.

They have had intelligent pieces, but they have always been deeply silly. I mentioned a dumb Harry Potter thing earlier, but they have more recently taken swings at TSwift for not being what they call a true feminist.

They are only good at contemplating their own navels.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:34:54am

re: #350 Timothy Watson

I, somehow, ended up on nutjob E.W. Jackson’s (former Republican nominee for Lieutenant Governor in Virginia) nutjob new group’s e-mail list the other week. Just reading the subject lines lost me a couple brain cells.

Hmmm, maybe I could get in on some of that hot wingnut email action.

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withak  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:35:47am

re: #351 Testy Toad T

Does anybody have handy the link to that long and thoughtful legal analysis regarding EMAILZZZ!gate? I actually have been meaning to share that with some friends.

It was shared here within the last week.

I would also like this.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:37:22am

re: #349 Lidane

[Embedded content]

I love Charles Barkley. He speaks his mind. I don’t always agree but I know I’m getting the thoughts of someone who is sincere and not bullshitting.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:38:09am

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

I heard that after Michigan too and then she won five states. Tuesday night was a good night for Bernie and he’s had a nice few weeks but it’s about to get harder for him.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:38:27am

re: #350 Timothy Watson

I, somehow, ended up on nutjob E.W. Jackson’s (former Republican nominee for Lieutenant Governor in Virginia) nutjob new group’s e-mail list the other week. Just reading the subject lines lost me a couple brain cells.

Oh God that nut job.

358
makeitstop  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:41:26am

In other news, I got a fucking Benghazi email from my wingnut sister this morning.

Heavy sigh.

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KingKenrod  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:42:15am

re: #351 Testy Toad T

Does anybody have handy the link to that long and thoughtful legal analysis regarding EMAILZZZ!gate? I actually have been meaning to share that with some friends.

It was shared here within the last week.

This?

prospect.org

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:43:35am

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

What’s funny about that is one of the people that replied to one of our dear leader’s twitter comments said that Salon was almost completely in the tank for Clinton.

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TedStriker  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:43:51am

re: #318 Whack-A-Mole

The full Rogue One trailer is here.

Sorry I couldn’t get it to embed.

I have to say, this looks really amazing. I’m more stoked for this than I am Episode 8.

As I “said” upthread about this:

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Timothy Watson  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:45:40am

More asparagus!

Yesterday, former Donald Trump adviser Roger Stone chatted with Dana Loesch about the “Days of Rage” he is planning with Alex Jones to make sure that delegates and party officials at the Republican National Convention don’t “steal” the nomination from Trump.

Stone, who remains one of Trump’s close confidants, said he resented any claim that he was provoking violence.

“If somebody wanted to cast false asparagus on this, sure, but it’s a famous phrase from the ‘68 convention,” he said.

(We are not sure if he simply flubbed the word “aspersions” or was deliberately channeling Rep. Louie Gohmert.)

rightwingwatch.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:46:28am

Just a reminder that not all Sanders supporters are berners:

(I’m seeing more and more of this lately)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:48:17am

re: #362 Timothy Watson

Yesterday, former Donald Trump adviser Roger Stone chatted with Dana Loesch about the “Days of Rage” he is planning with Alex Jones

The names alone are a derp overload.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:48:32am

re: #362 Timothy Watson

More asparagus!

rightwingwatch.org

False asparagus? Sheesh! Real asparagus is bad enough.

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:48:51am

re: #362 Timothy Watson

More asparagus!

rightwingwatch.org

I don’t use aspirations often enough, but when I do, I’ll try to replace it. Can we use other fruits and vegetables in public discourse?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:49:17am

re: #357 HappyWarrior

Oh God that nut job.

One of the derpiest gubernatorial running mates in all the history of history.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:49:52am

re: #361 TedStriker

As I “said” upthread about this:

[Embedded content]

It does look really good; I showed the trailer earlier to a couple of students of mine (11 and 13, sister and brother respectively) and their jaws were on the floor.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:50:06am

re: #362 Timothy Watson

More asparagus!

rightwingwatch.org

Hands off our asparagus!!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:50:15am

re: #364 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The names alone are a derp overload.

The wingularity.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:50:21am

re: #367 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

One of the derpiest gubernatorial running mates in all the history of history.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:50:56am

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just a reminder that not all Sanders supporters are berners:

[Embedded content]

(I’m seeing more and more of this lately)

He’s cool with me. Reasonable people can reasonably disagree so no quarrel with him at all.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:50:58am

re: #368 Dr Lizardo

It does look really good; I showed the trailer earlier to a couple of students of mine (11 and 13, sister and brother respectively) and their jaws were on the floor.

This must be the movie that has JPod all upset on the Twitters. Lack of a manly male protagonist or something.

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withak  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:51:31am

re: #364 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

The names alone are a derp overload.

The fact that Alex Jones is mentioned in the same breath as a presidential candidate that has a good chance of being on the ballot in November is just amazing to me.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:52:17am

re: #373 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This must be the movie that has JPod all upset on the Twitters. Lack of a manly male protagonist or something.

Strong female characters must make his already presumably tiny winkie shrivel up even further.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:53:22am

re: #362 Timothy Watson

More asparagus!

rightwingwatch.org

I have high hopes that this GOP convention is going to be the shittiest shitshow in the history of shitshows. Can’t wait!

Plus—every month now is the hottest month on record—I wonder how hot it’s going to be in Cleveland in August? “Days of Rage”, “Long Hot Summer”…could be a real explosion.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:54:06am

re: #374 withak

The fact that Alex Jones is mentioned in the same breath as a presidential candidate that has a good chance of being on the ballot in November is just amazing to me.

Just wait till he gets a prime time convention speaking gig.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:54:25am

re: #366 Belafon

I don’t use aspirations often enough, but when I do, I’ll try to replace it. Can we use other fruits and vegetables in public discourse?

I think there’s a phone APPle for that.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:55:32am

re: #373 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

JPOD?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:56:14am

“I think if you look at her record and campaign, her campaign is funded by millions and millions of dollars from Wall Street and other special interests. She’s made a deal with the devil, and we all know the devil wants his money in the end. So that’s the kind of campaign she’s running. She supported the terrible trade deals which have devastated American manufacturing in the country. She supported the war in Iraq. She continues to have a very, very hawkish foreign policy that has led to the rise and expansion of ISIS throughout the Middle East.”

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CuriousLurker  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:57:29am

Last night I reread our Declaration of Independence, something I hadn’t done in many years. There are references to God in it, but it’s quite clear that they didn’t consider him as having anything to do with actual governing—that was up to the people and what they wanted for themselves.

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it […] The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

archives.gov

At that point it goes on the list all the very serious grievances against the Crown. The crap the wingnuts are always whining about is nothing compared what the British did to the colonists. I really wish they’d cut the melodrama.

Oh, and one of the items in the list involves a reference to Native Americans as “merciless Indian Savages”—that made me cringe. It kinda sucks having that enshrined in one of our founding documents. I would add that they also seemed to be oblivious to the fact that Native Americans probably regarded the colonists as oppressive tyrants every bit as much as the colonists did the British.

Anyway, these two items regarding the King of Great Britain jumped out at me:

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

Immigration/refugees and Merrick Garland, anyone?

The only other reference to God was in the last paragraph

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown

So basically, they were quite clearly (at least to me) saying that while they credited God with creating the world & mankind, his position wasn’t the supreme head of state or whatever, nor were they expecting him to micromanage their daily (secular) affairs or form their laws—that was to be done “in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies […]” As far as I can tell, they saw God (not Jesus a.s.) as a supreme being who essentially said, “Okay guys, here’s this world I made for you, try not to screw it up,” then sat back judging intentions & actions.

Whether you believe in the existence of a God or not, it seems crystal clear to me that regardless of their personal religious beliefs (or unbelief, as the case might be in some instances) they weren’t setting out in any manner, shape or form to create a religious state in the name of God that would be ruled by Biblical Law, they were doing it in the name of the people of the colonies and would create their own laws based on their specific needs (and as their consciences saw fit), period. Full stop.

Okay, that my tl;dr for the week. ;)

Okay Charles, you can go ahead and put up a new article now. //

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Belafon  Apr 7, 2016 • 9:58:00am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bernie’s really about to find out how a campaign manager can sink a campaign.

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withak  Apr 7, 2016 • 10:04:52am

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ugh.

Debating sending that link to my Bernie-supporting brother to see how far into Bernistan he has gone. Not sure I want the ensuing argument, though.

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mmmirele  Apr 7, 2016 • 10:08:42am

The Chicago Tribune has a bombshell of a story about Dennis Hastert and allegations of sexual abuse when he was a high school coach. Too much detail to get into here, but there’s a possibility that a person identified as Individual D may show up at Hastert’s sentencing to talk about what Hastert did to him. From the article:

With the sentencing hearing looming, a source said Hastert called one of Individual D’s relatives, hoping to get a letter to show Hastert had done good things with his life; that letter could help persuade Durkin to give Hastert a more lenient sentence.

Individual D then made a call of his own. He told federal authorities he would prepare a statement to be used in court detailing what Hastert did to him.

chicagotribune.com

The whole thing makes me want to throw up.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 7, 2016 • 12:11:10pm

re: #339 Shiplord Kirel

Salon presents the 64 oz. kool-aid, spiked with brown acid:

Hillary’s world collapsing around her: Wisconsin, Bernie’s surge and FBI probe poised to derail her White House bid

from the comments:

The capitalist controlled news media is in pathological denial about the momentum of the Bernie Sanders campaign for president. I just read- right after his stunning Wisconsin Democratic Primary victory- that he ” flunked ” an interview with the editors of the New York Daily News. You see these right wing hacks were eager to hear Bernie Sanders give a detailed plan for breaking up the big banks.


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