Hilarious Short Film: Generic Presidential Campaign Ad

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Here’s a classic send-up of the amazingly predictable “campaign ad” style. Guaranteed to make you smile and want to vote for Candidate.

Created entirely with stock footage from Dissolve, This Is a Generic Presidential Campaign Ad reunites the team behind This Is a Generic Brand Video.

As the 2016 presidential election cycle has progressed, dozens of candidates have released their campaign ads. And though there are a few differences from the left wing to the right, they have a lot in common. In fact, these predictable, formulaic approaches to video editing have drawn comparisons to our own all-purpose corporate promo, This Is a Generic Brand Video, written by Kendra Eash: https://www.dissolve.com/generic.

We didn’t think it fair that media commentators had to reference our corporate video — why not give them an actual generic campaign ad? So we asked Kendra to provide her wry, absurdist take on presidential promotion. The result is a blatantly pandering, verbally vacuous piece of political parody.

See and license the clips used at http://www.dissolve.com/gpca.
Read more on our blog at http://bit.ly/presidentialplatitudes.

Voiceover by Bobby Butler.
Music: “Gateway (instrumental)” by Sleevenotes, http://bit.ly/slvntes, and “Storm Brewing” by Mark Petrie http://bit.ly/strmbrew, both licensed from Audiosocket.

To publish or broadcast this video, contact press@dissolve.com, or tweet us at @dissolve. Media outlet? Grab the media kit at http://bit.ly/gpcamediakit.

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229 comments
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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:40:09am

45 seconds in and I love it already. Is that a voice from the Bad Lip Reading crew?

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:42:57am

“I can make my family hug me.”

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Ming5000  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:47:47am

If this goes viral I bet Candidate would start to poll well at the fringes.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:50:31am

re: #3 Ming5000

If this goes viral I bet Candidate would start to poll well at the fringes.

Isn’t it time?

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 11:56:26am

I think I’ll write this guy in the Primary GOP.
///

But seriously, is this ad not actually better than some?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:03:43pm

Wow. This is the perfect candidate. Gee. Can we vote for him? ///

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Ming5000  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:03:44pm

I wonder if the candidate will release his full tax returns? (Unlike some in the news)

Has Bernie Sanders released his full tax returns?
By Jake Tapper, Anchor and Chief Washington Correspondent; Video by Casey Capachi and Claudia Morales
Updated 9:32 AM ET, Fri April 8, 2016

Spoiler: No. Sen. Sanders has not.

Along with Kasich and Cruz, Sen. Sanders has released only a two page summary from 2014. Trump has released zero.

Jake Tapper kinda did a sick burn on the, well, The Bern.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:08:00pm

re: #6 PhillyPretzel

Wow. This is the perfect candidate. Gee. Can we vote for him? ///

Only if he releases his short form taxes.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:09:26pm

re: #6 PhillyPretzel

Wow. This is the perfect candidate. Gee. Can we vote for him? ///

And just to head off certain critics ahead of time lets put this right out there.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:09:33pm

re: #8 Great White Snark

Depending on his deductions he might be using a long form.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:10:04pm

re: #9 Great White Snark
…

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:10:10pm

Awfully early for a kitteh, but ohhh, my. This one gets my vote.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:11:01pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Aww. I agree with that caption.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:11:19pm

re: #5 Great White Snark

I think I’ll write this guy in the Primary GOP.
///

But seriously, is this ad not actually better than some?

It’s just like all political comedy Great White. Think John Stewart, Samantha Bee, John Oliver and others.

Comedy political “news shows” are better at covering politics better than the real mainstream media.

It stands comics can make a better ad…they don’t take themselves so seriously.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:13:56pm

re: #7 Ming5000

I wonder if the candidate will release his full tax returns? (Unlike some in the news)

Spoiler: No. Sen. Sanders has not.

Along with Kasich and Cruz, Sen. Sanders has released only a two page summary from 2014. Trump has released zero.

Jake Tapper kinda did a sick burn on the, well, The Bern.

They must be some great tax forms. They must be close to Bernard Madoff in their creativity!

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:16:25pm

“That Was The Week That Was,” the first record album I ever bought.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:22:18pm

re: #16 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“That Was The Week That Was,” the first record album I ever bought.

I’d hire almost anyone with that line on their resume. Or who sings that song to me. Were I hiring…

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:33:39pm

LOL!

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Lancelot Link  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:45:19pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

JoeyJoJoJrShabadoo -
I hope you’re getting the help I so desperately need

Pronoun Trouble

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:49:00pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

BTW any thoughts on Brave yet? Some features work some not so much. Quick and clean here though.

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Ming5000  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:50:37pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Freudian much?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 12:56:48pm

re: #20 Great White Snark

Well, since you’re a subscriber (for which I thank you!) it doesn’t impact you, but I’m really not happy to see a browser with built-in ad blocking. And their revenue-sharing scheme is a joke, IMO.

The prevalence of ad blockers has really hurt a lot of independent sites, LGF included, and it’s going to end up driving a lot of sites off the web.

Yup, I know ads are annoying, and I know they slow things down. Ad blockers are a short term solution that may seem really nice right now, but in the long term they’re going to have very bad consequences for independent websites.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:01:56pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

My problems are the sites where the content is a fucking joke and the ads are just nothing but one weird trick and celebrity slideshow clickbait with a healthy smear of autoplay video.

LGF is one of the few sites on my whitelist.

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mmmirele  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:10:31pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

My problems are the sites where the content is a fucking joke and the ads are just nothing but one weird trick and celebrity slideshow clickbait with a healthy smear of autoplay video.

LGF is one of the few sites on my whitelist.

I didn’t put an ad blocker on until last Christmas when one of those autoplay sites stepped on my last nerve. I could put up with just about everything—popups, popovers, etc.—but the autoplay videos, that was my last straw.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:10:37pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

We get too much free stuff online. Too many necessary changes to the browsing or emailing experience are not profitable. But we are so addicted to free news, free email, free content across the board we won’t pay. Even adult content, way out there extra adult content is overly accessible to the innocent, the very young, the HR nightmare after clicking the wrong address thing. That’s us customers screwing ourselves as you point out above. ‘Cause we love independent media. But we want it free. We forget we get to vote content with our $$.

Largely not your thing to control, but a part of the ad blocking issue is the ads are often really horrible, and the worst things to click. If the quality of the ads were closer to the quality of the content in a blog, your revenue would increase substantially imho. I’m no web expert but I could not have my job if i did not focus on the customers experience. Online ads have a ton of room to improve.

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Jenner7  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:12:30pm

Hillary is doing better than expected in Wyoming. She squeaked out a win in Laramie County.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:14:50pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

My problems are the sites where the content is a fucking joke and the ads are just nothing but one weird trick and celebrity slideshow clickbait with a healthy smear of autoplay video.

Don’t forget the ones with a random part of a photo circled in red and a cryptic tagline about how shocking or disturbing it is. Oh really, ad, Blob Next To Hitler’s Elbow is the most unsettling pic ever? Well, I simply must click you then!

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:16:01pm

re: #26 Jenner7

The “Hillary stole Wyoming” rumors have already started.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:16:46pm
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451_Montag  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:16:55pm

re: #26 Jenner7

Hillary is doing better than expected in Wyoming. She squeaked out a win in Laramie County.

Like like 8-6 delegates to Bernie, with a real possibility of 7-7 tie. Considering the Bernistas where hoping for a blow out, not a good result.

Lots of muttering about Hillary stealing it because of absentee ballots. Insane really. Bernie wins because he is a new Messiah, but Hillary steals it!!

They are really suffering from HDS. She is utterly useless but good enough to steal an election.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:18:03pm

re: #30 451_Montag

Like like 8-6 delegates to Bernie, with a real possibility of 7-7 tie. Considering the Bernistas where hoping for a blow out, not a good result.

Lots of muttering about Hillary stealing it because of absentee ballots. Insane really. Bernie wins because he is a new Messiah, but Hillary steals it!!

They are really suffering from HDS. She is utterly useless but good enough to steal an election.

Bernie saves! But Hillary scores on the rebound!

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Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:19:28pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

For me Ad blocking is about security. I don’t mind seeing ads. Some ads can be really annoying but that is easy to mitigate. But what I can’t mitigate is whether or not an ad network is serving me malicious code and or tracking me. So I block ads and only turn them on for certain sites such as LGF.

I am willing to put my computer at risk because I want you to be able to earn a living. But I have zero trust in the practices at the ad networks. I know a lot of people feel that way. A few major malware distributions in a major ad network is all it would take for ad blocking to become the norm. It would be the ad-revenue-apocalypse.

Frankly I love native ads but I know that opens up a whole set of other issues.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:21:23pm

Dammit. I go out for a few hours and the Feline Overlords figure out how to rotate my laptop’s display 90 degrees. So everything is now sideways and the mouse direction movements are all screwed up.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:22:31pm

re: #33 Feline Fearless Leader

Dammit. I go out for a few hours and the Feline Overlords figure out how to rotate my laptop’s display 90 degrees. So everything is now sideways and the mouse direction movements are all screwed up.

Well, if you’re laying on the keyboard, that would seem to be a more natural orientation.

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mmmirele  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:22:56pm

re: #32 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

This reminded me of something Forbes did back in early January—it won’t allow you on the site without an ad blocker. Then people went to the site without ad blockers and were served pop-under malware. Which reminded me of how I got hit with ransomware through TripAdvisor at Christmas 2011.

networkworld.com

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:23:02pm

re: #33 Feline Fearless Leader

Dammit. I go out for a few hours and the Feline Overlords figure out how to rotate my laptop’s display 90 degrees. So everything is now sideways and the mouse direction movements are all screwed up.

If it’s windows, right-click on the desktop, display options

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:24:03pm

re: #36 No Country For Old Haters

If it’s windows, right-click on the desktop, display options

Smart as a kitteh!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:25:19pm

re: #36 No Country For Old Haters

If it’s windows, right-click on the desktop, display options

I knew how to fix it. I just had to close 4-5 windows to get to the desktop level, and then trigger that option - all with the mouse not moving in the manner I expected it to.

While two cats sat on the coffee table and watched in their oh so innocent manner.

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No Country For Old Haters  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:27:31pm

re: #38 Feline Fearless Leader

I knew how to fix it. I just had to close 4-5 windows to get to the desktop level, and then trigger that option - all with the mouse not moving in the manner I expected it to.

While two cats sat on the coffee table and watched in their oh so innocent manner.

I have a coworker who does what your cat did, it’s some hotkey, and I turn my head sideways to undo it for her. I suppose turning the mouse sideways would work too.

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Great White Snark  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:27:48pm

re: #33 Feline Fearless Leader

Dammit. I go out for a few hours and the Feline Overlords figure out how to rotate my laptop’s display 90 degrees. So everything is now sideways and the mouse direction movements are all screwed up.

I found yer Mouse for you
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:29:19pm

re: #38 Feline Fearless Leader

You should see what they’ve been posting on Instagram.

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Nojay UK  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:29:55pm

re: #38 Feline Fearless Leader

I knew how to fix it. I just had to close 4-5 windows to get to the desktop level, and then trigger that option - all with the mouse not moving in the manner I expected it to.

Next time it happens simply tip the laptop on its side so the mouse moves “normally” to make it easier. You can also hold the mouse 90 degrees off its usual orientation.

Me, I just rotate my desktop screens — both the big ones pivot. Reset them to landscape and portrait as needed then swivel them back.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:31:20pm

re: #30 451_Montag

Like like 8-6 delegates to Bernie, with a real possibility of 7-7 tie. Considering the Bernistas where hoping for a blow out, not a good result.

Lots of muttering about Hillary stealing it because of absentee ballots. Insane really. Bernie wins because he is a new Messiah, but Hillary steals it!!

They are really suffering from HDS. She is utterly useless but good enough to steal an election.

Hillary is a criminal don’cha know.

In this case she is a political thief. Don’t leave her alone around your votes!

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Jenner7  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:40:41pm

MSNBC called it for Bernie..

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:43:26pm

re: #44 Jenner7

Is it a 7-7 delegate tie?

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Jenner7  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:45:47pm

re: #45 jaunte

No idea. He’s up 56.1 to 43.9.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:47:29pm

re: #46 Jenner7

No idea. He’s up 56.1 to 43.9.

[Embedded content]

MSNBC is showing 13 for Bernie, 5 for Hillary.

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:49:01pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

MSNBC is showing 13 for Bernie, 5 for Hillary.

NYT has Bernie 7, Hillary 6, w 96% in.

nytimes.com

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:50:49pm

There are 14 pledged and 4 unpledged delegates in Wyoming.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 1:52:08pm

This is for Gov. Voldemart of Florida.
Bugs Bunny Cuts Florida Loose

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:01:20pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:03:47pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Does he think Mexicans are sending money home to mom to have it laundered?

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:06:41pm

re: #48 blueraven

NYT has Bernie 7, Hillary 6, w 96% in.

nytimes.com

One county still not Reporting: Goshen

Bernie Sanders 154 56.0% 7
Hillary Clinton 121 44.0% 6

96% reporting (22 of 23 precincts)
Winner called by A.P.
*Vote totals for the Wyoming Democratic Party are state convention delegates won.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:07:00pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:14:20pm

Off topic. Do twitter handles take the indefinite article a or an? In other words, is the @ symbol pronounced or not? Dick Costello says yes but it still feels awkward.

What say you?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:19:29pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

THAT’S the cleaned up version? Good god! What did I miss?

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:21:08pm
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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:21:34pm

re: #49 Belafon

There are 14 pledged and 4 unpledged delegates in Wyoming.

One for every voter?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:22:04pm

re: #56 Blind Frog Belly White

THAT’S the cleaned up version? Good god! What did I miss?

Jpeg artifacts. I borrowed the Sanders text, it was late and I didn’t notice them. I’m a perfectionist about the horrible shit I create so I just re-created them with text layers. I couldn’t nail the font but got close enough with a free variation of Montserrat.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:27:33pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Off topic. Do twitter handles take the indefinite article a or an? In other words, is the @ symbol pronounced or not? Dick Costello says yes but it still feels awkward.

What say you?

Of course not, it’s a given when you’re talking about twitter. It’s like websites: when was the last time you heard someone say “www. Amazon. com”? It’s just Amazon. com in conversation now. Twitter ought to be the same.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:27:43pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

For the record it’s the bird that cracks me up every time. I was pretty much done last night when it occurred to me it really needed a bird.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:29:33pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

For the record it’s the bird that cracks me up every time. I was pretty much done last night when it occurred to me it really needed a bird.

Birds are fond of horsepoop. Even dog poop. It’s rare to find a Greyhound bomb of any age in the yard that hasn’t been investigated thoroughly by beaks.

Think of that, the next time you envy them their wings…

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:31:12pm

re: #60 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

Of course not, it’s a given when you’re talking about twitter. It’s like websites: when was the last time you heard someone say “amazon.com”? It’s just amazon.com in conversation now. Twitter ought to be the same.

I want to agree but then I prounounce .gif with a j sound just like the format’s creator says you should. I don’t really tend to give a shit about authorial intent, but on the other hand we pronounce the @ in email addresses so …

I think I’ll keep using an in the short term just to pretend like I know something.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:32:05pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Off topic. Do twitter handles take the indefinite article a or an? In other words, is the @ symbol pronounced or not? Dick Costello says yes but it still feels awkward.

What say you?

I have never had a conversation in which I need to identify a Tweeter. Maybe I’ve lived in the sticks too long.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:35:26pm

I was feeling magnanimous, so I tossed a congratulatory post onto a Sanders thread crowing about winning Wyoming. I didn’t even snark about the one-delegate gain.

Mind you, I’d just given $50 to Hillary, so she got much the more useful thing.

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:41:53pm

re: #65 Blind Frog Belly White

I was feeling magnanimous, so I tossed a congratulatory post onto a Sanders thread crowing about winning Wyoming. I didn’t even snark about the one-delegate gain.

Mind you, I’d just given $50 to Hillary, so she got much the more useful thing.

It could still end up a delegate tie. (or a 2 delegate lead for BS)

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:42:07pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really tend to give a shit about authorial intent, but on the other hand we pronounce the @ in email addresses so …

In that case it’s smack in the middle, and it’s just too awkward to mentally edit it out.

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worldknot  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:44:33pm

Sanders nets zero or 2 delegates in WY. Either way, he needs a slightly greater percentage of the remaining delegates than he did before.

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SoundGuy 2016  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:49:17pm

Michael Shermer is a fuckwit. Seriously. From Facebook:

Michael Shermer
What happened at Penn State when a conservative spoke. Liberal students listened quietly & debated arguments. Not.

Shermer likes to Baby Whiplash’s blog post titled:

Belligerent Mob Assembles Outside Shapiro Penn State Speech, Issues Violent Threats: ‘Come Out Here B*tch!’

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:49:24pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

I want to agree but then I prounounce .gif with a j sound just like the format’s creator says you should. I don’t really tend to give a shit about authorial intent, but on the other hand we pronounce the @ in email addresses so …

I think I’ll keep using an in the short term just to pretend like I know something.

When people ask me for my email address, I don’t say “.com”. I figure they know that “@yahoo” must end with it.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:50:51pm
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Testy Toad T  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:58:01pm

re: #68 worldknot

Sanders nets zero or 2 delegates in WY. Either way, he needs a slightly greater percentage of the remaining delegates than he did before.

Goldman Sachs does math all day. Clinton is doing better at math. Who’d she pay off? Is it a coincidence? Or is she in the pocket of Big Math?

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

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worldknot  Apr 9, 2016 • 2:58:25pm

re: #68 worldknot

Sanders nets zero or 2 delegates in WY. Either way, he needs a slightly greater percentage of the remaining delegates than he did before.

Correction: If he wins that 8th delegate in WY, the percentage of remaining delegates needed decreases by .006 percent. This could be a big day for him after all.

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mmmirele  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:07:57pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Off topic. Do twitter handles take the indefinite article a or an? In other words, is the @ symbol pronounced or not? Dick Costello says yes but it still feels awkward.

What say you?

The BBC World Service (radio) uses “at” before its Twitter handles when announcing them. So “at BBCWorld” for the BBC World Service.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:09:54pm

re: #69 SoundGuy 2016

Michael Shermer is a fuckwit. Seriously. From Facebook:

Shermer likes to Baby Whiplash’s blog post titled:

You aren’t kidding. I Googled around to find something handy about ‘Shermer’s Neck’ (a cyclist’s ailment) and ended up reading about ethics in gaming journalism.

/it’s worse than that, but I like the joke. I hope it’s not too obscure.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:12:22pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:13:13pm

re: #74 mmmirele

The BBC World Service (radio) uses “at” before its Twitter handles when announcing them. So “at BBCWorld” for the BBC World Service.

Thanks! I feel classier already.

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:19:11pm

Hillary won the last county to report. NYT still has it 7/6 Sanders but looks like it will be a tie in the end.

nytimes.com

CANDIDATES VOTE PCT. DELEGATES
Bernie Sanders 156 55.7% 7
Hillary Clinton 124 44.3 6

100% reporting (23 of 23 precincts)
Winner called by A.P.
*Vote totals for the Wyoming Democratic Party are state convention delegates won.

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TedStriker  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:19:15pm

re: #32 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

For me Ad blocking is about security. I don’t mind seeing ads. Some ads can be really annoying but that is easy to mitigate. But what I can’t mitigate is whether or not an ad network is serving me malicious code and or tracking me. So I block ads and only turn them on for certain sites such as LGF.

I am willing to put my computer at risk because I want you to be able to earn a living. But I have zero trust in the practices at the ad networks. I know a lot of people feel that way. A few major malware distributions in a major ad network is all it would take for ad blocking to become the norm. It would be the ad-revenue-apocalypse.

Frankly I love native ads but I know that opens up a whole set of other issues.

Tips to lessen your malware exposure:

1) Uninstall Java and any standalone versions of Adobe Flash Player
2) Install (if not already installed) Google Chrome (which has a built-in, Google-tweaked, sandboxed version of Flash), then open a tab to chrome://plugins/ and uncheck “Always allowed to run”; this will make anything asking for Flash to put up a placeholder, where you can click-to-run.

howtogeek.com

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:19:26pm

re: #74 mmmirele

The BBC World Service (radio) uses “at” before its Twitter handles when announcing them. So “at BBCWorld” for the BBC World Service.

Yeah, but it’s a British “@”, so they spell it with a ” u”.

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:24:52pm

Yep. NYT has it a tie now. 7/7

No net delegates for Bernie. His target was 9, according to 538.
Hillary’s target was 5.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:27:15pm

re: #81 blueraven

Yep. NYT has it a tie now. 7/7

No net delegates for Bernie. His target was 9, according to 538.
Hillary’s target was 5.

But Buzzfeed tells me Bernie “won”!!!1

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:28:47pm

re: #83 Testy Toad T

But Buzzfeed tells me Bernie “won”!!!1

Last 8 out of 9!!

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:30:16pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:30:54pm

re: #78 blueraven

Hillary won the last county to report. NYT still has it 7/6 Sanders but looks like it will be a tie in the end.

NYT is now reporting 7:7.

But he’s got MOMENTUM!!!!!
///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:31:55pm

re: #82 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

I think that misstates what Libertarians think they think.
//

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Testy Toad T  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:32:27pm

re: #84 blueraven

Last 8 out of 9!!

IT’S THE MATH, STUPID.

(obviously not directed at you)

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:37:13pm

The scooter shop I go to posted this picture today. He’s probably a Bernie fan but he’s a very reasonable guy. Not a bot.

feel it
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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:41:13pm

re: #87 Blind Frog Belly White

They assume they will always be the boot.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:43:05pm

Current mood.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:44:37pm

Instagram

Radford University, VA | February 29, 2016 Donald Trump. No caption necessary.
#onassignment for the @wsj
#photojournalism #documentary #reportage #portrait #election #democracy #makeportraits #donaldtrump #americandemocracy

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:45:57pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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CHYNA!

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:50:21pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:52:01pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:57:22pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 3:59:31pm
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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:00:44pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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“And the shrouded nightmare of malice, decay and vanity gazed their way, its unexpected presence seemingly piercing through the very fabric of the reality around them, feasting upon their souls. None had lived in days gone past left unhinged by the experience, and he feared the cacophony of those wretched masses would grow louder as their numbers increased by day’s end.”

This seems fitting for some reason… Now excuse me, i have this sudden urge to shower repeatedly and thoroughly… //

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meteor  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:07:58pm

re: #38 Feline Fearless Leader

Next time, bring out the treats.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:08:45pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

that is awesome.

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:09:45pm

Rotating CNN chyrons:
1.Sanders Wins Wyoming Caucus, Gains 7 Delegates
(um no, not really)
2. Sanders Wins Last 8 of 9 Contests.
3. Sanders: “We Are Closing Very Fast” On Clinton.
(No, no you are not).

Can Hillary stop Bernie’s momentum!!?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:10:52pm

re: #101 blueraven

Rotating CNN chyrons:
1.Sanders Wins Wyoming Caucus, Gains 7 delegates
(um no, no really)
2. Sanders Wins Last 8 of 9 Contests.
3. Sanders: “We Are Closing Very Fast” On Clinton.
(No, no you are not).

Can Hillary stop Bernie’s momentum!!?

Math is hard, apparently.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:12:34pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

Thanks for introducing the pump head phenomenon to me. Something like it also affects those who have been mechanically ventilated, which I was for 4 or 5 days. I was lucky to have a stay in a rehab hospital after the ICU.

The medical miracles that today’s hospitals can deliver for patients with life-threatening illnesses and injuries often exact a huge price. There are the known and expected financial costs, but there are also long-term, often life-altering, physical, cognitive and mental impairments for the patients who survive their acute episode.

These are more likely the longer a patient is in hospital and most commonly associated with intensive care episodes, especially for patients who undergo mechanical ventilation. They are under-recognised and under-diagnosed, leaving patients, their families and often their doctors struggling to understand and address the issues that subsequently arise.

[…]

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:12:37pm

re: #101 blueraven

Rotating CNN chyrons:
1.Sanders Wins Wyoming Caucus, Gains 7 delegates
(um no, no really)
2. Sanders Wins Last 8 of 9 Contests.
3. Sanders: “We Are Closing Very Fast” On Clinton.
(No, no you are not).

Can Hillary stop Bernie’s momentum!!?

Team Horserace Ratings $$$ Kerching!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:13:55pm

grab some chips.
I just made a huge batch of guacamole.

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:14:47pm

Speaking of math, did anyone notice that today’s date is 2 squared / 3 squared / 4 sqaured (well, if you leave off 2000 years)?

Speaking of being bad at math, I don’t know how to show a number to a power.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:15:08pm

re: #101 blueraven

Rotating CNN chyrons:
1.Sanders Wins Wyoming Caucus, Gains 7 delegates
(um no, no really)
2. Sanders Wins Last 8 of 9 Contests.
3. Sanders: “We Are Closing Very Fast” On Clinton.
(No, no you are not).

Can Hillary stop Bernie’s momentum!!?

To quote from The Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight!, AN OBJECT AT REST CANNOT BE STOPPED!

Seriously, his Wisconsin and Wyoming “wins” didn’t even keep up with the original 538 targets, let alone the revised ones that note the scoreboard. He now needs 68% of the remaining delegates to win, according to pretty much anyone, up a point from before his last two “triumphs.”

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:15:29pm

re: #104 goddamnedfrank

Team Horserace Ratings $$$ Kerching!

Waiting for that debate countdown clock!

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retired cynic  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:17:22pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

grab some chips.
I just made a huge batch of guacamole.

My favorite!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:17:41pm
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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:18:13pm

re: #101 blueraven

1.Sanders Wins _____ Caucus, Gains __ delegates
2. Sanders Wins Last __ of __ Contests.
3. Sanders: “We Are Closing Very Fast” On Clinton.
4. Can Hillary stop Bernie’s momentum!!?
5. Rinse and repeat until June

Their DNC horse-race formula is locked down and there’s no stopping them anytime soon…

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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:20:31pm

re: #78 blueraven

Hillary won the last county to report. NYT still has it 7/6 Sanders but looks like it will be a tie in the end.

nytimes.com

CANDIDATES VOTE PCT. DELEGATES
Bernie Sanders 156 55.7% 7
Hillary Clinton 124 44.3 6

100% reporting (23 of 23 precincts)
Winner called by A.P.
*Vote totals for the Wyoming Democratic Party are state convention delegates won.

But, but I just got an email from Bernie’s campaign telling me Wyoming was YUUUGE’

We just got word that we won Wyoming’s caucus. This is huge.

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:20:38pm

LOL! Poor Reince.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:22:02pm

re: #113 blueraven

LOL! Poor Reince.

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So they’re finally accepting that George W. Bush should never have been President. Progress!

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retired cynic  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:22:18pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

Thanks for introducing the pump head phenomenon to me. Something like it also affects those who have been mechanically ventilated, which I was for 4 or 5 days. I was lucky to have a stay in a rehab hospital after the ICU.

My husband. He was badly affected (perhaps due to his advancing Parkinson’s). However, when he had a triple bypass, he came through it well, and they told us he was lucky that all repairs were on the front of the heart, and the heart didn’t have to be taken out to work on the back side. They said that was where real personality changes could come about. We know personally six people who had such changes, and four of them had their marriages fail very quickly. Some of those affected seemed to wake up as different people altogether.

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b_sharp  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:22:58pm

Yoo Hoo!

I’m having a bit of a time figuring out how to do a political poll when allowed only a single poll per post. Any ideas?

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:23:55pm

Coon Rapids is MN’s version of Florida Man. The last time it was in the news was because a woman smashed a beer mug across a Somali woman’s face because she wasn’t speaking english.

Prank Caller Convinces Coon Rapids Burger King Employees to Smash Windows

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:24:48pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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He had his nose chopped off at some point.

ewe.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:27:19pm

Hillary sweeping the south = meaningless because this states won’t vote blue in November.

Bernie winning Wyoming (net gain one delegate) which hasn’t been blue since I can ever remember = REVOLUTION!!!!!!

Is that pretty much how it is?

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:28:39pm

re: #115 retired cynic

My sister had a heart valve replaced and she came out of it with a lot of memory loss. She was pretty pissed off about it. I don’t think they warned her.

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blueraven  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:29:50pm

re: #119 GlutenFreeJesus

Hillary sweeping the south = meaningless because this states won’t vote blue in November.

Bernie winning Wyoming (net gain one delegate delegate tie) which hasn’t been blue since I can ever remember = REVOLUTION!!!!!!

Is that pretty much how it is?

FIXED

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:30:54pm

re: #119 GlutenFreeJesus

Hillary sweeping the south = meaningless because this states won’t vote blue in November.

Bernie winning Wyoming (net gain one delegate) which hasn’t been blue since I can ever remember = REVOLUTION!!!!!!

Is that pretty much how it is?

Actually, that’s net gain the square root of sod all. And fewer delegates left going forward, so standing still really a loss. But the revolution is a harsh mistress, and nonexistent mistresses are the worst kind!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:33:52pm

Shooter was a TechSgt and former FBI agent.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:36:02pm

re: #115 retired cynic

My husband. He was badly affected (perhaps due to his advancing Parkinson’s). However, when he had a triple bypass, he came through it well, and they told us he was lucky that all repairs were on the front of the heart, and the heart didn’t have to be taken out to work on the back side. They said that was where real personality changes could come about. We know personally six people who had such changes, and four of them had their marriages fail very quickly. Some of those affected seemed to wake up as different people altogether.

I met a woman in my town who got divorced shortly after her TBI. I, on the other hand, got married to the guy I’d been living with for 30 years. But my husband was told (before I was conscious (so before he was my husband)) that at ‘some point’ counseling would be in order. Recently several other people have told me that. I’ve never been to counseling, but when many people whom you respect are all saying the same thing, it’s time to listen.

I hope you and your husband are doing well.

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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:37:32pm

This is a little dated, but I got there via a wingnut friend’s rant on Facebook about how they could no longer listen to Rush Limbaugh, because he’s so “in the tank for Trump.” So I go over the Red State, and there’s an entire movement to stop listening to Rush, because he’s plugging Trump so hard.

Which really connected some dots for me. The base, the people who are Trump fans, they are also the ones who are Limbaugh listeners. They’ve always wanted Rush as their president - a loud, obnoxious bully, who delights in hurting women, gays, black, Latinos, college-educated city-dwellers, etc. etc.

And in Trump, they have found their apotheosis. It’s Rush, with a combover.

As usual, the true mangoes were found in the comments section. You may want to use an incognito window to go there, and have cute&fluffy kittens nearby to snuggle with after a few minutes. The level of crazed victimhood derangement on display here is disturbing:

“Here’s my take on Rush’s stance vis a vie Trump: Rush has been kept out of the club. Rush has experienced first hand the jilting of liberals in NYC. He has been dragged out as a circus sideshow at parties. He has been attacked legally and politically. These stinking idiotic vindictive sadistic nose-in-the-air elitist boot-liking fruit sucking commie liberal jerk wagons have attempted to destroy Rush and salt the earth with his ashes. Can you blame the guy for wanting a bit of sweet revenge? Even, or especially if it comes at the hands of Trump? Rush wants heads to roll. He wants to hurt these people who have hurt him and others like him. He wants payback.”

Read into this what you will.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:39:42pm

re: #119 GlutenFreeJesus

Hillary sweeping the south = meaningless because this states won’t vote blue in November.

Bernie winning Wyoming (net gain one delegate) which hasn’t been blue since I can ever remember = REVOLUTION!!!!!!

Is that pretty much how it is?

He gained zero net pledged delegates out of Wyoming. He needed to gain two to meet his 538 target, and bear in mind those targets were drawn up at the beginning of the primary season, and therefore don’t factor in what he actually needs to do to pull ahead now. Just meeting the target would have effectively been a loss, he needed to duplicate his overwhelming wins in Idaho and Utah to actually improve his mathematical odds going forward.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:42:03pm

re: #125 Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday’s Child)

“Boot-liking?”

Lots of those people in Texas.

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b_sharp  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:44:05pm

re: #127 jaunte

“Boot-liking?”

Lots of those people in Texas.

I like boots.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:44:54pm

re: #119 GlutenFreeJesus

Hillary sweeping the south = meaningless because this states won’t vote blue in November.

Bernie winning Wyoming (net gain one delegate) which hasn’t been blue since I can ever remember = REVOLUTION!!!!!!

Is that pretty much how it is?

Hey, a Pyrrhic victory is still a victory, right?

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TedStriker  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:46:07pm

re: #125 Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday’s Child)

This is a little dated, but I got there via a wingnut friend’s rant on Facebook about how they could no longer listen to Rush Limbaugh, because he’s so “in the tank for Trump.” So I go over the Red State, and there’s an entire movement to stop listening to Rush, because he’s plugging Trump so hard.

Which really connected some dots for me. The base, the people who are Trump fans, they are also the ones who are Limbaugh listeners. They’ve always wanted Rush as their president - a loud, obnoxious bully, who delights in hurting women, gays, black, Latinos, college-educated city-dwellers, etc. etc.

And in Trump, they have found their apotheosis. It’s Rush, with a combover.

As usual, the true mangoes were found in the comments section. You may want to use an incognito window to go there, and have cute&fluffy kittens nearby to snuggle with after a few minutes. The level of crazed victimhood derangement on display here is disturbing:

“Here’s my take on Rush’s stance vis a vie Trump: Rush has been kept out of the club. Rush has experienced first hand the jilting of liberals in NYC. He has been dragged out as a circus sideshow at parties. He has been attacked legally and politically. These stinking idiotic vindictive sadistic nose-in-the-air elitist boot-liking fruit sucking commie liberal jerk wagons have attempted to destroy Rush and salt the earth with his ashes. Can you blame the guy for wanting a bit of sweet revenge? Even, or especially if it comes at the hands of Trump? Rush wants heads to roll. He wants to hurt these people who have hurt him and others like him. He wants payback.”

Read into this what you will.

IOW, short dick man syndrome:

20 Fingers ft Gillette- Short Dick Man

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:47:22pm

re: #128 b_sharp

I like boots.

Yes, but do you also suck fruit?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:48:44pm

re: #106 stpaulbear

Speaking of math, did anyone notice that today’s date is 2 squared / 3 squared / 4 sqaured (well, if you leave off 2000 years)?

Speaking of being bad at math, I don’t know how to show a number to a power.

The no fuss notation convention is either X**Y or X^Y. You can also use the < sup> tag to create XY

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:49:51pm

Yesterday: “Bernie’s going to the Vatican! He’s been invited by the Pope to meet with him! He’s gonna talk shop about economic justice!”

Today: “Bernie never said he was invited to the Vatican to meet with the Pope! He’s gonna be at a conference that’s of big importance! No doubt the Vatican wanted him to be there!”

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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:52:54pm

re: #128 b_sharp

I like boots.

I have a pair of buffalo-hide boots that I bought back in ‘91, after my first real pair of cowboy boots got stole out of my truck (and yes, that does exactly sound like a good Country&Western song) while I was romancing An Inappropriate Woman.

Never been able to find another pair as good as ‘em. The buffalo leather is thick, but supple, and although my pinkie toes now stick out the side, those Justins are the most comfy footwear I own.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:54:47pm
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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:56:36pm

re: #130 TedStriker

Read into this what you will.

IOW, short dick man syndrome:

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I think that Rush has long since crawled up his own ass, and convinced himself, as he has convinced his listeners, that he is the Victim Of A Sinister Plot By Liberals … one that is everywhere, touches everything in society, that is all-knowing, all-seeing, all-powerful, and it is only because of his heroic and steadfast bravery (medals should be in the offing, if this was a fair world, which of course it is not) that he has managed to survive the awful, awful attacks levied against him for the crime of being a conservative.

The victimhood thing is the key to their entire philosophical worldview. Nothing is more precious to them than the idea that they are put-upon martyrs. It excuses the fact that they have done nothing with their lives, live like ignorant swine, and fling casual hatred around in ways that alienate everyone else around them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:58:54pm

re: #133 Targetpractice

Yesterday: “Bernie’s going to the Vatican! He’s been invited by the Pope to meet with him! He’s gonna talk shop about economic justice!”

Today: “Bernie never said he was invited to the Vatican to meet with the Pope! He’s gonna be at a conference that’s of big importance! No doubt the Vatican wanted him to be there!”

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withak  Apr 9, 2016 • 4:59:54pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

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Original tweet is now protected. What was it?

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Testy Toad T  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:04:13pm

re: #138 withak

@Thom_Hartmann
Wow! How did Hillary’s campaign end up with so many of these forms? Did the campaign solicit disabled people?
…

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:04:22pm

“…A Reuters report from November found Trump sometimes refuses to pay bills from contractors who have done work for his real estate business, and later negotiates the price to a lower amount.

“I fight like hell to pay as little as possible,” Trump told Reuters.

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Mattand  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:05:14pm

re: #125 Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday’s Child)

This is a little dated, but I got there via a wingnut friend’s rant on Facebook about how they could no longer listen to Rush Limbaugh, because he’s so “in the tank for Trump.” So I go over the Red State, and there’s an entire movement to stop listening to Rush, because he’s plugging Trump so hard.

Which really connected some dots for me. The base, the people who are Trump fans, they are also the ones who are Limbaugh listeners. They’ve always wanted Rush as their president - a loud, obnoxious bully, who delights in hurting women, gays, black, Latinos, college-educated city-dwellers, etc. etc.

And in Trump, they have found their apotheosis. It’s Rush, with a combover.

As usual, the true mangoes were found in the comments section. You may want to use an incognito window to go there, and have cute&fluffy kittens nearby to snuggle with after a few minutes. The level of crazed victimhood derangement on display here is disturbing:

Read into this what you will.

I can’t even wrap my head around this.

There is absolutely no daylight between what Limbaugh has been doing for decades and what Trump is spouting now. None.

And now this group of people is angry that Trump is their leader?

These two loons are spouting the same goddamn message.

What am I not getting here?

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withak  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:09:00pm

re: #139 Testy Toad T

No, I meant that the tweet Thom was quoting is now protected. Don’t have any context without it.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:11:13pm

re: #138 withak

Original tweet is now protected. What was it?

An image listing the valid reasons for obtaining a surrogate caucus form.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:12:07pm

Evening Lizardim. Probably will be going for my walk soon, but I wanted to check in with my friends.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:12:23pm

re: #140 jaunte

Joe B and T rump? Nuh uh.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:14:00pm

re: #145 Amory Blaine

Yeah, I doubt they were appearing on the same bill.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:15:41pm

re: #142 withak

No, I meant that the tweet Thom was quoting is now protected. Don’t have any context without it.

I think it was just question three of the FAQ on this .pdf

It may have been from another document but that’s what they were talking about, how Hillary’s people were able to turn in so many surrogate votes. Accusations have been flying around today that they canvased retirement homes and such, actually reaching out to older voters who couldn’t otherwise make it to a caucus.

You know, in other words actually trying to do something to fix the grossly undemocratic nature of the caucus system. Apparently in Bernie-Land seeking out the disabled and easily disenfranchised and making sure they have a voice is some kind of nefarious trick.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:17:21pm

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

seeking out the disabled and easily disenfranchised and making sure they have a voice is some kind of nefarious trick.

“No fair! We didn’t think of that.”

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:18:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:20:05pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:21:32pm

re: #128 b_sharp

I like boots.

Ski boots!

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:22:53pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

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That’s mostly because the only section of the elderly vote that the Sanders campaign is interested in is old hippies and the no-nukes crowd.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:23:36pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

That’s mostly because the only section of the elderly vote that the Sanders campaign is interested in is old hippies and the no-nukes crowd.

My two older brothers, in other words.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:26:32pm

re: #144 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. Probably will be going for my walk soon, but I wanted to check in with my friends.

I buried 12 Pabst tall boys and a half pint of Jack Daniel’s in the snow up at the ski area today. Tomorrow’s the last day the ski area is open and the security company I work for will have agents checking bags at the bottom of the chairlift. I’m going to be a popular guy at the Stickline deck, plenty of beer to go around!

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:27:07pm

Jesus Christ, there are hardly any liberal radio shows in Wisconsin. Thom is showing himself to be a fucking jerk.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:28:10pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:28:13pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

“APT6” spends years inside government networks (revelation)

So, Hillary’s e-mails were more secure on a private server compared to being on government servers.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:28:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:30:37pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

So, Hillary’s e-mails were more secure on a private server compared to being on government servers.

I’ve actually been making that point since this silly non-scandal first broke. If she had a good tech setting it up and running it, it was almost certainly safer than a government system.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:30:46pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

I buried 12 Pabst tall boys and a half pint of Jack Daniel’s in the snow up at the ski area today. Tomorrow’s the last day the ski area is open and the security company I work for will have agents checking bags at the bottom of the chairlift. I’m going to be a popular guy at the Stickline deck, plenty of beer to go around!

That is awesome.

In the meantime, I fly out tomorrow afternoon on a business trip. And I just learned that Mrs. Fish has, yet again, dropped her iPhone in the toilet. I don’t understand what’s so important that she has to have it out while she’s in there, nor why she didn’t learn from the first time.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:32:10pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

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The Republicans thank the BernieBros for their support of “Voter ID” laws that keep the wrong kind of people from voting. They even agree on most of the definitions of “wrong kind of people”: the chronologically and/or melanistically enhanced.

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:32:26pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

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When Bernie wins a state, all we hear about is how the “wrong” people are getting a chance to vote. When he loses, all we hear about is how “the establishment” suppressed the vote.

You rather get the impression that they’re just making this shit up as they go.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:32:38pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

I’ve actually been making that point since this silly non-scandal first broke. If she had a good tech setting it up and running it, it was almost certainly safer than a government system.

It is harder to hack a server that you don’t know exists.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:33:24pm

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

My town is having a shit show about mistreatment and neglect of our Latino electorate. I’m involved with this as I sit on our Disabilities Commission. We, and I are VERY concerned about access to polls for disabled voters. (Because of my bad eyes, I use the ballot-scanning machine at the polling place.)

If someone were to say, as I’ve heard often in the past, that the disabled are a special-interest minority, That Would No Be Good.

If a Bernie surrogate is Going To Go There with this, they are assholes!

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No Depression  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:33:31pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

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I have but one response to this:

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thedopefishlives  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:33:53pm

re: #163 Brian J.

It is harder to hack a server that you don’t know exists.

That, and, government servers are a guaranteed target; what hacker wouldn’t want to gain access to a government email server? Even if the server was known, the very fact that it’s private and not an official government-owned machine makes it a lower-profile target for hacking.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:35:10pm

Remember to always delete your browser history.
Inside Amy Schumer - Search History

Image: Delete-My-Browser-History-Medicalert-Bracelet-Main.jpg

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stpaulbear  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:36:24pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

When Bernie wins a state, all we hear about is how the “wrong” people are getting a chance to vote. When he loses, all we hear about is how “the establishment” suppressed the vote.

You rather get the impression that they’re just making this shit up as they go.

They’re sore losers and sore winners.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:36:25pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

When Bernie wins a state, all we hear about is how the “wrong” people are getting a chance to vote. When he loses, all we hear about is how “the establishment” suppressed the vote.

You rather get the impression that they’re just making this shit up as they go.

$250 million by the time it’s all over, and it won’t buy the Sandbaggers a damn thing other than a place on Hillary’s shit list. She forgives her enemies, but remembers their names.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:37:14pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:39:14pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:41:07pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

@goddamnedfrank is marginalised=senior citizens unable to go and vote ? Can imagine Hillarys people going into homes, pushing the vote :(

I’ll go into their homes and cook fuckn’ breakfast for them, if the family is at the polls voting for a Dem.

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:41:13pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

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It’s actually understandable if you look at the fate of the British Labour Party in my lifetime, which means since 1976: They’ve lost with James Callaghan, Michael Foot, Neil Kinnock twice, Gordon Brown, Ed Miliband, and soon Jeremy Corbyn. They’ve won with Tony Blair, Tony Blair, and Tony Blair.

In other words, someone like your interlocutor has never won and has no idea how it’s done.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:41:15pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Is he/she a Tory? They know a LOT about the disabled and how they should be (mainly somewhere else).

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:41:21pm
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Reality Based Steve  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:42:36pm

re: #172 Decatur Deb

I’ll go into their homes and cook fuckn’ breakfast for them, if the family is at the polls voting for a Dem.

I like my bacon crispy, my eggs over easy, and my hash browns shredded and crusty.

RBS

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:42:37pm

re: #160 thedopefishlives

That is awesome.

In the meantime, I fly out tomorrow afternoon on a business trip. And I just learned that Mrs. Fish has, yet again, dropped her iPhone in the toilet. I don’t understand what’s so important that she has to have it out while she’s in there, nor why she didn’t learn from the first time.

Shake off excess water and put it in a ziplock bag full of uncooked rice. Zip it up and leave it in there, undisturbed, for a few days. It’s said that the rice will pull out the wetness in the device.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:44:08pm

re: #177 MsJ

Shake off excess water and put it in a ziplock bag full of uncooked rice. Zip it up and leave it in there, undisturbed, for a few days. It’s said that the rice will pull out the wetness in the device.

Same thing works much better with silica gel, if you can find a supply.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:45:43pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

On a serious note, I’ve wondered about Bernie’s thoughts on the disabled. While most of the Bernistas I personally know are older, there are a lot of young male Bernistas, and my experience is that young males will do anything to avoid people with disabilities.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:47:21pm
181
Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:47:30pm

The Boston Globe imagines a typical day in the tRump presidency.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:49:43pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:51:49pm

re: #159 Charles Johnson

I’ve actually been making that point since this silly non-scandal first broke. If she had a good tech setting it up and running it, it was almost certainly safer than a government system.

I’ve taken the same stance…posted about it many times.

I’m sure the FBI will be making this a point in their summation of the security review they are currently doing. Right? RIGHT?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:52:33pm

Bernie Sanders seems to be attracting the same kind of horrible people who follow Glenn Greenwald and viciously attack anyone who criticizes him.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:53:41pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders seems to be attracting the same kind of horrible people who follow Glenn Greenwald and viciously attack anyone who criticizes him.

Republicans who still hope to get laid?

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:54:38pm

Fuck the Berner moonbats. Those people can fucking eat my old shoes. Way to be positive surrogates for your candidate you fucking jagoffs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:55:43pm

heads up, the fake news sites are at it again.

This tweet is correct:

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:55:51pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

Bernie Sanders seems to be attracting the same kind of horrible people who follow Glenn Greenwald and viciously attack anyone who criticizes him.

Not just the same kind of people, the same people.

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Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:55:58pm

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

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Yes, heaven forfend that a candidate make an effort to turn out voters who might face additional obstacles. What are you, some sort of populist?

[spits]

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sagehen  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:56:56pm

re: #177 MsJ

Shake off excess water and put it in a ziplock bag full of uncooked rice. Zip it up and leave it in there, undisturbed, for a few days. It’s said that the rice will pull out the wetness in the device.

This was a plot point on an episode of “Elementary”.

The dead blackmailer’s phone was missing, everyone assumed the killer took it because it held evidence/recordings.

Joan saw his medical records, realized the bag of rice in his cupboard couldn’t possibly be for eating, and they recovered the phone that had been in his pocket when he did laundry…

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Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:58:29pm

Wife is on the Grandkid Trail for the second day, so it’s the ‘B’ supper menu:

Bread
Butter
Bean soup
Beer.

Tomorrow will involve cheese.

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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:58:46pm

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

You know, in other words actually trying to do something to fix the grossly undemocratic nature of the caucus system. Apparently in Bernie-Land seeking out the disabled and easily disenfranchised and making sure they have a voice anything that Hillary does is some kind of nefarious trick.

Or, more to the point…

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:59:16pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Wife is on the Grandkid Trail for the second day, so it’s the ‘B’ supper menu:

Bread
Butter
Bean soup
Beer.

Tomorrow will involve cheese.

Hopefully, she’ll be back before you get to the tricky letters like Q or X.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 5:59:50pm

re: #193 Brian J.

Hopefully, she’ll be back before you get to the tricky letters like Q or X.

Real Debs don’t eat quiche.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:00:32pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Wife is on the Grandkid Trail for the second day, so it’s the ‘B’ supper menu:

Bread
Butter
Bean soup
Beer.

Tomorrow will involve cheese.

Cheese
Crackers
Cheddarwurst
Coffee

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:01:33pm

Some people seem to really enjoy creating chaos and pain for other people.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:03:02pm

re: #195 Reality Based Steve

Cheese
Crackers
Cheddarwurst Cheese grits
Coffee

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:04:39pm

re: #160 thedopefishlives

Here is the google search for drying out an iPhone.
google.com

I hope it helps.

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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:04:55pm

re: #155 Amory Blaine

Jesus Christ, there are hardly any liberal radio shows in Wisconsin. Thom is showing himself to be a fucking jerk.

My thoroughly researched theory (anecdotal to the max)—every Thomas I’ve known who uses Thom instead of Tom has been a jerk. When I’ve had to work with them, I’ve always pronounced the “h”—if not to their faces, when referring to them. Yes, I am 12 years old!

Apologies in advance to anyone here who goes by Thom. Just an observation based on a small data set.

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451_Montag  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:06:07pm

re: #189 Sophist, Premature Anti-Trumpist

Yes, heaven forfend that a candidate make an effort to turn out voters who might face additional obstacles. What are you, some sort of populist?

[spits]

I’ve never really understood why populist has turned into a sort of insult. Always seems a bit odd. Suggesting doing things people want? Bastards!

On a side note my spellcheck tried to suggest fascist when I typed populist!! Is there nothing Hillary’s and Obama’s secret hacker army wouldn’t do?

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:07:35pm

re: #171 teleskiguy

Bryan was a vulgar and common man, a cad undiluted. He was ignorant, bigoted, self-seeking, blatant and dishonest. His career brought him into contact with the first men of his time; he preferred the company of rustic ignoramuses. It was hard to believe, watching him at Dayton, that he had traveled, that he had been received in civilized societies, that he had been a high officer of state. He seemed only a poor clod like those around him, deluded by a childish theology, full of an almost pathological hatred of all learning, all human dignity, all beauty, all fine and noble things. He was a peasant come home to the dung-pile. Imagine a gentleman, and you have imagined everything that he was not.

The job before democracy is to get rid of such canaille. If it fails, they will devour it.

End of H.L. Mencken’s eulogy of William Jennings Bryan.

peeniewallie.com

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Brian J.  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:10:09pm

re: #200 451_Montag

I’ve never really understood why populist has turned into a sort of insult. Always seems a bit odd. Suggesting doing things people want? Bastards!

On a side note my spellcheck tried to suggest fascist when I typed populist!! Is there nothing Hillary’s and Obama’s secret hacker army wouldn’t do?

The problem is too many populists are like Trump and Sanders: they mouth the slogans that people want to hear without thinking the policies through or recognizing the personal cost to those who would be disfavored.

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b_sharp  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:10:32pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

Some people seem to really enjoy creating chaos and pain for other people.

The first time I ever saw Greenwald it was on Bill Maher’s show. Almost from his first words I could see he was an unthinking zealot & a bully. It’s been obvious for a while that many of Bernie’s fans are just as bad.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:10:32pm

re: #201 gocart mozart

And I thought Christopher Hitchens was harsh with his obit of Jerry Falwell!

Good stuff, thanks.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:12:10pm

re: #201 gocart mozart
MEMO FROM THE NATIONAL AFFAIRS DESK
DATE: MAY 1, 1994
FROM: DR. HUNTER S. THOMPSON
SUBJECT: THE DEATH OF RICHARD NIXON: NOTES ON THE PASSING OF AN AMERICAN MONSTER…. HE WAS A LIAR AND A QUITTER, AND HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BURIED AT SEA…. BUT HE WAS, AFTER ALL, THE PRESIDENT.

Richard Nixon is gone now, and I am poorer for it. He was the real thing — a political monster straight out of Grendel and a very dangerous enemy. He could shake your hand and stab you in the back at the same time. He lied to his friends and betrayed the trust of his family. Not even Gerald Ford, the unhappy ex-president who pardoned Nixon and kept him out of prison, was immune to the evil fallout. Ford, who believes strongly in Heaven and Hell, has told more than one of his celebrity golf partners that “I know I will go to hell, because I pardoned Richard Nixon.”

I have had my own bloody relationship with Nixon for many years, but I am not worried about it landing me in hell with him. I have already been there with that bastard, and I am a better person for it. Nixon had the unique ability to make his enemies seem honorable, and we developed a keen sense of fraternity. Some of my best friends have hated Nixon all their lives. My mother hates Nixon, my son hates Nixon, I hate Nixon, and this hatred has brought us together.

Nixon laughed when I told him this. “Don’t worry,” he said, “I, too, am a family man, and we feel the same way about you.”

theatlantic.com

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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:16:03pm

re: #197 Decatur Deb

Cheese
Crackers
Cheddarwurst Cheese gritscrabcakes
Coffee Chardonnay

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Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:18:09pm

Father, daughter, son:

Jordi Savall, Ferran Savall, Arianna Savall - Canarios - Improvisation

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:26:26pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:26:31pm

re: #171 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Bryan was a vulgar and common man, a cad undiluted. He was ignorant, bigoted, self-seeking, blatant and dishonest. His career brought him into contact with the first men of his time; he preferred the company of rustic ignoramuses. It was hard to believe, watching him at Dayton, that he had traveled, that he had been received in civilized societies, that he had been a high officer of state. He seemed only a poor clod like those around him, deluded by a childish theology, full of an almost pathological hatred of all learning, all human dignity, all beauty, all fine and noble things. He was a peasant come home to the dung-pile. Imagine a gentleman, and you have imagined everything that he was not.

The job before democracy is to get rid of such canaille. If it fails, they will devour it.

Could be applied to a number of present-day politicians.

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Mattand  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:26:56pm

re: #186 teleskiguy

I want to shake the hand of whoever created that graphic. It. Is. AWESOME. Right down to the inaccurate speech ballon.

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:27:27pm

Well, I’m going to go write a check for generic candidate, because there is no way I’m going to support his opponent, who has the power to raise thunderstorms. (on second thought, that’s a hell of a power, better than getting your family to hug you)

In any case, I’m diving tomorrow. Officially start of the season at the quarry.

RBS

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Amory Blaine  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:28:06pm

Hate Springs Eternal

Supporters of each candidate should have no trouble rallying behind the other if he or she gets the nod.

Why, then, is there so much venom out there?

I won’t try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody. I’m not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality. We’ve already had that from the Bush administration — remember Operation Flight Suit? We really don’t want to go there again.

What’s particularly saddening is the way many Obama supporters seem happy with the application of “Clinton rules” — the term a number of observers use for the way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by the Clintons, no matter how innocuous, as proof of evil intent.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:33:06pm

re: #201 gocart mozart

peeniewallie.com

Well, that’ll teach me to read to the end before posting!

215
Decatur Deb  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:33:32pm

re: #213 Amory Blaine

Hate Springs Eternal

Just a double-banked blindfolded trick shot at Obama.

216
Lancelot Link  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:48:08pm

re: #201 gocart mozart

H.L. Mencken was also an open racist and anti-semite who sided with the Germans during WW2.
Just sayin’.

217
Belafon  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:53:10pm

re: #213 Amory Blaine

Hate Springs Eternal

I wanted to see what I thought about Clinton back in 2008. The first political site I got on was Daily Kos, and so I went back to my first comments. It looks like I joined in June, 2008, so too late for me to have put down what I actually thought, but I did find this, which I wrote in July:

Waiting for everyone to get over it

Actually your article points to another reason he has to wait as long as possible: If for some reason, he decided that Clinton was his best choice, he couldn’t announce it right now, he’ll have to wait until both sides cool down a bit.

I have been supporting Obama since he announced his candidacy, and I really didn’t care for some of the things that Clinton said, but it really is time to get over the primary, for the sake of letting go and getting around to the real job of electing a Democratic president.

The diary was wondering why Obama hadn’t announced his VP yet.

I would hope that I wasn’t doing what Krugman described. The two things I remember not liking about the way Clinton’s campaign was run was Bill’s comment about Obama’s supporters in South Carolina, and the campaign trying to get Michigan and Florida reinstated. But, without concrete proof, I can’t make any statement about how I acted toward Hillary. I have slept since then.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 9, 2016 • 6:55:28pm

re: #205 gocart mozart

MEMO FROM THE NATIONAL AFFAIRS DESK
DATE: MAY 1, 1994
FROM: DR. HUNTER S. THOMPSON
SUBJECT: THE DEATH OF RICHARD NIXON: NOTES ON THE PASSING OF AN AMERICAN MONSTER…. HE WAS A LIAR AND A QUITTER, AND HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN BURIED AT SEA…. BUT HE WAS, AFTER ALL, THE PRESIDENT.

theatlantic.com

With the caliber of candidates of both parties currently campaigning for election as US president; this primary & subsequent election could use some Hunter S. Thompson like commentary.

HST did not suffer fools, and knew that anyone or anything that became an obstacle to a U.S. presidential campaign imediately became a target to be eliminated.

219
gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:07:31pm

re: #216 Lancelot Link

It is not possible to form a just judgment of a public figure who has attained the enormous dimensions of Adolf Hitler until his life work as a whole is before us. Although no subsequent political action can condone wrong deeds, history is replete with examples of men who have risen to power by employing stern, grim, and even frightful methods, but who, nevertheless, when their life is revealed as a whole, have been regarded as great figures whose lives have enriched the story of mankind. So may it be with Hitler.
- Winston Churchill, in a 1935 essay from his book Great Contemporaries

vanityfair.com
Just sayin’ ;)

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:13:32pm

In Re: Hitchens on Mencken on Hitler

Look up H. L. Mencken’s review of Mein Kampf, as it appeared in The American Mercury of December 1933. Greatly to the distress of his old friend and publisher Alfred A. Knopf, among others, Mencken felt it his job to explain that the new Führer was potentially onto something good. Not only did he describe as “sensible enough” the idea that “Germany’s first big task is to collar Austria and so consolidate the German people,” but he went on to state that anti-Semitism was more or less to be expected. (“The disadvantage of the Jew is that, to simple men, he always seems a kind of foreigner.”) Though he tried to soften the blow by comparing Hitler to fundamentalist Democrat William Jennings Bryan—harsh dispraise in the Mencken universe—he too found that there was a Jewish-­Bolshevik threat to be combated: “The bloody Räte­republik at Munich—long forgotten elsewhere, but only too well remembered in Germany—had been set up and bossed by a Jew, and there were other Jews high in the councils of the Communist party, which proposed openly to repeat the Munich pillages and butch­er­ies all over the country.”

vanityfair.com

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:34:54pm

re: #199 BeachDem

My thoroughly researched theory (anecdotal to the max)—every Thomas I’ve known who uses Thom instead of Tom has been a jerk. When I’ve had to work with them, I’ve always pronounced the “h”—if not to their faces, when referring to them. Yes, I am 12 years old!

Apologies in advance to anyone here who goes by Thom. Just an observation based on a small data set.

My father had a similar observation about guys who go by “first initial-middle name-surname.” He said they were all pretentious and arrogant. I’m hoping no one here does that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:40:44pm

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My father had a similar observation about guys who go by “first initial-middle name-surname.” He said they were all pretentious and arrogant. I’m hoping no one here does that.

It’s pretentious because it’s British-style. The British are OTOH contemptuous of the American first-name-middle-initial system.

Since we’re on H. L. Mencken, in The American Language he says that when a British novel portrays an oafish American millionaire named something like “Theophilus K. Hunks”, the abbreviation scheme is meant to be just as laughable as the rest of it.

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BeachDem  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:47:06pm

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My father had a similar observation about guys who go by “first initial-middle name-surname.” He said they were all pretentious and arrogant. I’m hoping no one here does that.

What’s that you say W. Dogghazi Mailgate?
(signed B. Dem Somethingorother)
//

224
Eventual Carrion  Apr 9, 2016 • 7:50:49pm

re: #181 Skip Intro

The Boston Globe imagines a typical day in the tRump presidency.

[Embedded content]

Naw, It can’t happen here

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EmmaAnne  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:14:01pm

re: #217 Belafon

I wanted to see what I thought about Clinton back in 2008. The first political site I got on was Daily Kos, and so I went back to my first comments. It looks like I joined in June, 2008, so too late for me to have put down what I actually thought, but I did find this, which I wrote in July:

The diary was wondering why Obama hadn’t announced his VP yet.

I would hope that I wasn’t doing what Krugman described. The two things I remember not liking about the way Clinton’s campaign was run was Bill’s comment about Obama’s supporters in South Carolina, and the campaign trying to get Michigan and Florida reinstated. But, without concrete proof, I can’t make any statement about how I acted toward Hillary. I have slept since then.

Here’s me, in February of 2007:

In the general, yes
I should have said above that of course I will vote for Hillary if she is the Dem nominee. She is a good person and a good Democrat. She just has a huge blind spot. She really hasn’t learned the lesson of Iraq, and Vietnam before it.

I was surprised, because I ended up caucusing for Hillary, and I forgot I was so pissed about the AUMF.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:15:10pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:41:31pm

re: #76 goddamnedfrank

I was young(er) and a idiot. I did too, (in CA) and I can’t think of many votes I regret more.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2016 • 8:45:52pm

re: #221 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My father had a similar observation about guys who go by “first initial-middle name-surname.” He said they were all pretentious and arrogant. I’m hoping no one here does that.

It may be true of those who give up a perfectly serviceable first name to go by a middle name that is more often used as a surname, but that’s not always the case.

aheEN9d4RFchZXTON3rVXfA4Zgr1jjjenz50YD+mmm3rSSwBf/8uhwJVwUK/xDBdUwEi8QbnnZRWeESaY9dHYRf+LVcBizwctq5lqe2FcXaA+W4kVQQTFvcn1NwsX+YHOsFtJUJ/g4254AlmLskatFM+7VN7Tds504Sjh1YHSaVtj4NhEuVwiUUwGO3z4SjDEifTcHNqhkGtyACsR4SvrPlSIARLQBVTN7sf8M9sGpqHlsGNk+CwwKY4X5pcWc9rrmTK+qzA+OlkQJAMEy6EkqwHQ3Cxikm9jLyg1VPKAaPuCfZRdEW2BHZmrRBy4CuajT//JxIa12E9hO3Dx89wdDITOE63MqWsweo/eWp6mNtQs8i+2CizW/7V6BaWLcp0eAUYBm35lBk+8Lcswg3UUgQcSFj953bw

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 9, 2016 • 9:01:12pm

re: #132 goddamnedfrank

The no fuss notation convention is either X**Y or X^Y. You can also use the < sup> tag to create XY

Hey! What’sup


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