Stupidest Man on the Internet: Trump Is DOMINATING With New York Women!

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Let’s kick off another week of batshit crazy politics with a typically hilarious post from the fabled Stupidest Man on the Internet, Jim “Dim” Hoft, who’s crowing and preening about a Fox News poll that shows (according to the SMOTI) TRUMP DOMINATING with New York women!

Take that, you Fox News cranks! Women love Trump because he’s a super-strong alpha male, like Jim!

Gee, it was just last week that FOX News cranks were blathering on about how Donald Trump can’t win over women voters.

My how things change!
This weekend a new FOX News poll has Donald Trump winning the Empire State with 54% of the vote.
And Trump has three times as much support from women as Ted Cruz.

Wow, 54% of New York women are going to vote for Donald Trump? That’s really quite a change from the last poll that showed 70% of women couldn’t stand the orange fascist.

So what caused this astonishing shift?

Well, nothing. Jim, in his usual fashion, is leaving out of his breathless post a little bit of information that explains this seeming discrepancy: these are all Republican voters. Oopsie, Jim!

Meanwhile, Jim’s crackhead commenting community knows exactly why Trump is winning with women in such massive numbers:

I am for equality for women in most things like equal pay if the woman is able to do the job.But unlike a lot of the women libbers I am not a man hater. Most women want a strong,decisive alpha male and can’t stand little weak sissy men.

Donald Trump really attracts the deep thinkers.

UPDATE at 4/11/16 11:04:50 am by Charles Johnson

For a bit more context, we should also note that the most recent statistics from the New York State Board of Elections show registered Democrats outnumber Republicans statewide by more than two to one. And in New York City, the difference is even greater.

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169 comments
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:53:08am

Considering the number of GOP registered voters in NY (a number which does NOT INCLUDE Ivanka & Eric Trump), you probably have something like 12 women voters for Trump vs 4 for Cruz.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:53:10am

GAH! That picture.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:54:10am
Most women - who have been willing to get near me - want a strong,decisive alpha male and can’t stand little weak sissy men.

So, maybe 3.

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withak  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:54:56am

Maaaaaaaaaaybe DOMINATES isn’t the right word to use in a headline about Trump and women.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:55:34am
I am for equality for women in most things like equal pay if the woman is able to do the job.But unlike a lot of the women libbers I am not a man hater. Most women want a strong,decisive alpha male and can’t stand little weak sissy men.

A “strong alpha male” like the short stubby fingered dude with a stiff hairsprayed combover.

Yeah, ladies totally go for that hairspray helmet!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:57:00am

And Trump is, you know, from NY fcking state. So that could be why he’s leading the regressive, unpleasant first term senator from Texas, even among women.

And it’s just not like Cruz is some great helluva prize for women either.

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Kragar  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:59:13am

“Most women want a strong,decisive alpha male and can’t stand little weak sissy men.”

Anyone who uses the term “alpha male” in this way is a worthless sack of shit

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MsJ  Apr 11, 2016 • 10:59:46am

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

A “strong alpha male” like the short stubby fingered dude with a stiff hairsprayed combover.

Yeah, ladies totally go for that hairspray helmet!

Men, too. Look at Calista Gingrich. Her helmet-like hair is concussion worthy.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:00:20am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

Considering the number of GOP registered voters in NY (a number which does NOT INCLUDE Ivanka & Eric Trump), you probably have something like 12 women voters for Trump vs 4 for Cruz.

And you can tell they polled more men than women because the plus/minus number is larger for women.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:00:33am

And David Barton steps right up to challenge for this week’s SMOTI title.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:02:47am

re: #10 jaunte

Well, I mean, c’mon…..who doesn’t worship the Great God Pan? I mean, all the cool kids are doing it!

*headdesk*

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:03:28am

re: #10 jaunte

And David Barton steps right up to challenge for this week’s SMOTI title.

Isn’t Barton also like the head of the state GOP in Texas or does he only chair a smaller or regional part?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:03:59am

re: #2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

GAH! That picture.

‘M, O, O, N.! That spells “Trump”!’

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:04:26am

re: #11 Dr Lizardo

“If you look back at the time of the Bible, a lot of the idols back then were actually animals,” Barton said. “Dagon was the fish God.”

So that must explain all those southerners with bass boats not going to church on Sunday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:04:57am
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KGxvi  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:05:02am

re: #1 The Vicious Babushka

Considering the number of GOP registered voters in NY (a number which does NOT INCLUDE Ivanka & Eric Trump), you probably have something like 12 women voters for Trump vs 4 for Cruz.

From what I can gather, statewide, Republicans make up just under 24% of the electorate in New York (they’re at about 10% in NYC). The Dems make up 49% statewide (69% in NYC) and the rest are either independents or third party voters (27% statewide, 21% in the city). So, assuming a 50/50 split among men and women in voter registration, New York Republican women make up about 12% of the electorate. But close enough..

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:06:11am

re: #10 jaunte

@RightWingWatch
David Barton says that Americans are worshiping pagan animal gods because of Disney movies: bit.ly

Mooby the golden calf?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:06:48am

re: #14 jaunte

So that must explain all those southerners with bass boats not going to church on Sunday.

Sure does explain all those funny-looking folks named Cletus and Ernestine I see down South.

Cletus. Or maybe Ernestine. Hard to tell.
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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:07:05am

Here are the statistics from the NY Board of Elections.

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Kragar  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:09:34am

re: #14 jaunte

Everyone knows that Lord Dagon and Mother Hydra, while respected as ancients by the Deep Ones, are simply nowhere near the power of majesty of even the Great Old Ones, to say nothing of the Outer or Elder Gods

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:09:54am

Oh look a new “romance” novel==>

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:10:44am
Kellyanne Conway, a Republican pollster who is working for a Ted Cruz super PAC, says that when she’s interviewed female Trump supporters, they say they are most concerned about “security, fairness and patriotism.” They like the strength that he projects. Like his male supporters, they are attracted to Trump’s claims of being an outsider because women are particularly concerned with the “corruptibility” of elected officials. And, finally, says Conway, they are attracted to his message of “optimism.”
nypost.com

Donald Trump claims we’re headed for economic disaster
nypost.com

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:11:41am

“…The New York billionaire’s doom-and-gloom predictions puzzled some economists, with the unemployment rate down to 5 percent and the economy having added private-sector jobs steadily for the last six years.

“We’re not heading for a recession, massive or minor, and the unemployment rate is not 20 percent,” said Harm Bandholz, chief US economist at UniCredit Research in New York, told Reuters.
nypost.com

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:12:31am

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look a new “romance” novel==>

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:12:41am

*saves the name ‘Harm Bandholz’ to alias file*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:13:01am
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Le Lapin Tueur  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:13:39am

re: #2 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

GAH! That picture.

Perzactly. And, it didn’t jump out at me with a mouse-over, but then I checked the Home page and it did. I’m scared, now. **Shudder**

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:20:12am

re: #13 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

‘M, O, O, N.! That spells “Trump”!’

Apologies to Bill Fagerbakke…that’s really an unfair comparison….

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Kragar  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:20:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:21:03am

William Hamilton, a cartoonist known for his drawings in The New Yorker that skewered the wealthy and powerful, died Friday in a traffic accident in Lexington. He was 76.

His death was confirmed by his wife, Lucy Young Hamilton.

She said her husband liked to go for afternoon drives and was about 4 miles from their horse farm when he passed out or was distracted and drove through a stop sign. His vehicle was struck on the driver’s side by a pickup, she said.

Read more here: kentucky.com

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KGxvi  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:22:51am

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

On the one hand, I have no problem with consenting adults choosing to organize their lives as best they see fit. If that’s a poly relationship, fine. However, considering the legal benefits and responsibilities that come from civil marriage, there’s a legitimate reason to limit marriage to two people. And for some reason, I don’t suspect that this is going to turn into a national debate the way that gay marriage did in the last couple of decades.

Also, having watched a few episodes of Sister Wives, I just want to say that the show really did not show that polygamous relationships were “healthy”. But again, eye of the beholder, I suppose.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:24:27am

LOL Baby Whiplash becomes an SJW==>

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KGxvi  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:26:03am

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

NO TRUE WINGNUT!

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:26:35am

re: #31 KGxvi

Also, having watched a few episodes of Sister Wives, I just want to say that the show really did not show that polygamous relationships were “healthy”. But again, eye of the beholder, I suppose.

There are plenty of monogamous relationships that aren’t healthy either, but I agree about the legal complexities.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:30:12am

re: #31 KGxvi

When I see a TV show called “Hubby Bros” then we can talk about whether or not polygamy is a good thing.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:31:13am

re: #31 KGxvi

On the one hand, I have no problem with consenting adults choosing to organize their lives as best they see fit. If that’s a poly relationship, fine. However, considering the legal benefits and responsibilities that come from civil marriage, there’s a legitimate reason to limit marriage to two people. And for some reason, I don’t suspect that this is going to turn into a national debate the way that gay marriage did in the last couple of decades.

Also, having watched a few episodes of Sister Wives, I just want to say that the show really did not show that polygamous relationships were “healthy”. But again, eye of the beholder, I suppose.

Another legitimate reason for concern is that so often, ‘consenting adults choosing to organize their lives as best they see fit’ is no such thing. It is a few men who organize the lives of everyone around them, deciding who must stay where and who must get out (most of the young men), without regard for what’s best for anyone but themselves.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:31:25am

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

A “strong alpha male” like the short stubby fingered dude with a stiff hairsprayed combover.

Yeah, ladies totally go for that hairspray helmet!

I wasn’t paying close attention as I was busy working on uploading some files…but did I hear on morning news that Trumpo was sporting a new hair style/cut or something?

This would be big political news. Who knows, it may actually show the ‘new’ Trump that I’ve been hearing about. Whatever the ‘new’ Trump actually means.

I guess that is the Trump that is finally getting around to figuring out how the different state nomination processes work…two-thirds of the way into the run.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:31:31am

SMOTI is whining that Cruz “stole” all the delegates in CO using stupid things called “rules”

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:35:26am

re: #10 jaunte

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And David Barton steps right up to challenge for this week’s SMOTI title.

Every time I hear something about this jackalope I wonder how anyone allowed him to be taken seriously. He should have been laughed off the stage a long time ago. Proof positive that some religious thinking can turn a human brain into mush.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:35:34am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

Billionaire surrogates whining about “Elites.”

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:36:41am

re: #39 ObserverArt

He’s been useful to some people who want to rewrite history, but can’t get a real historian to do it for them.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:36:50am

re: #39 ObserverArt

Every time I hear something about this jackalope I wonder how anyone allowed him to be taken seriously. He should have been laughed off the stage a long time ago. Proof positive that some religious thinking can turn a human brain into mush.

upding for “jackalope”.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:37:02am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI is whining that Cruz “stole” all the delegates in CO using stupid things called “rules”

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Self-professed pundit complains about insularity in politics.

Mhmm.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:37:05am

re: #14 jaunte

So that must explain all those southerners with bass boats not going to church on Sunday.

Bass fishin’ is a religion.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:37:28am

re: #36 wrenchwench

And I do not attack the LDS church, or even polygamy, but there is an existing community of fundamentalists trying to destroy the lives of boys and girls that needs to be stopped.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:37:37am

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI is whining that Cruz “stole” all the delegates in CO using stupid things called “rules”

Elites=active party members who do political party stuff on Saturdays.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:38:27am

Party primaries, how the fuck do they work?

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:40:01am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Party primaries, how the fuck do they work?

Outsider: “hi can I be in charge of your club”
Club board of directors: “no”
Outsider: “WAHHHHHH THEY BE STEALIN’ MY CLUB”

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FlowerPower  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:40:38am

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s really sad and scary; it’s a good thing no one else was hurt (the article didn’t mention the other driver as being injured). My dad was a brittle diabetic and they believe he had a drop in blood sugar that caused him to flip his car on a major highway and somehow managed to not involve other people.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:40:39am

re: #48 Testy Toad T

(I might have secretly written this comment about Sanders instead! You don’t know and neither do I!)

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:41:25am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Party primaries, how the fuck do they work?

Kind of waiting for Dim Jim and Breitbart, et al, to start hedging their punditry a little, start to talk up Cruz a bit in case Trump collapses. But they seem to be digging in.

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FlowerPower  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:43:46am

re: #31 KGxvi

On the one hand, I have no problem with consenting adults choosing to organize their lives as best they see fit. If that’s a poly relationship, fine. However, considering the legal benefits and responsibilities that come from civil marriage, there’s a legitimate reason to limit marriage to two people. And for some reason, I don’t suspect that this is going to turn into a national debate the way that gay marriage did in the last couple of decades.

Also, having watched a few episodes of Sister Wives, I just want to say that the show really did not show that polygamous relationships were “healthy”. But again, eye of the beholder, I suppose.

This. Marriage laws are based on everyone having one spouse; same-sex marriage didn’t affect those in the slightest. OTOH, poly-marriages would require throwing them all out and starting from scratch.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:46:15am

re: #36 wrenchwench

Another legitimate reason for concern is that so often, ‘consenting adults choosing to organize their lives as best they see fit’ is no such thing. It is a few men who organize the lives of everyone around them, deciding who must stay where and who must get out (most of the young men), without regard for what’s best for anyone but themselves.

QFT. Muslim men are allowed to have up to four wives, but there are LOTS of rules that go along with it, not to mention dire warnings about what’ll happen to men who get it wrong, but that doesn’t stop many of them from ignoring all or most of the rules and treating their wives poorly. I’m sure there are some who take things seriously and treat multiple wives well, I’ve just never met one.

I’m still trying to figure out why any man would want more than one wife in the first place. It’s hard enough just to get along with one spouse.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:48:36am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:49:16am

Well, goodnight, Lizards.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:49:30am

re: #44 ObserverArt

Bass fishin’ is a religion.

Yeah, And????!

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:50:17am

re: #53 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out why any man would want more than one wife in the first place. It’s hard enough just to get along with one spouse.

I think it can only be pulled off by people who don’t see women as equal humans with men. Or maybe by a man who really is superior in some way, but that man has not been met yet.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:51:52am

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Magical sunset #Oahu #Hawaii #Waikiki

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:52:37am

re: #57 wrenchwench

Pretty sure that’s a typo, so I FTFY.

Edit: No so sure after all. Retracted.

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KGxvi  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:53:35am

re: #53 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out why any man would want more than one wife in the first place. It’s hard enough just to get along with one spouse.

I suspect a lot of it has to do with power. And really, fundamentalists are the same the world over once you get past the outward differences - its all about power for them. And by “them” I mean the men in these relationships. The dynamic is completely different when you’re dealing with an equal vs when you’re dealing with someone you believe (and who likely believes themselves) to be subservient to you.

In addition to Sister Wives (which was just a weird, weird show), I’ve seen some other shows documenting poly families without the fundamentalism (not just one husband and multiple wives). I’m not sure I’d call what they have “healthy” either, but it did seem to work for them.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:57:11am

“Hey kids, have you ever heard the initials FSB?”

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:58:31am

re: #61 jaunte

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“Hey kids, have you ever heard the initials FSB?”

LOL

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:58:43am

re: #59 CuriousLurker

Pretty sure that’s a typo, so I FTFY.

I’ve been sure I was going to do that, but in this case I didn’t. It could be a ‘thoughto’, but I was thinking that only when the man is totally in charge of everything and everyone can there be peace in the household. Kinda what KGxvi said in his first paragraph above. But now that I think more about it, there could be a household of true equals getting along (in someone’s dreams.)

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 11:59:54am

re: #63 wrenchwench

I’ve been sure I was going to do that, but in this case I didn’t. It could be a ‘thoughto’, but I was thinking that only when the man is totally in charge of everything and everyone can there be peace in the household. Kinda what KGxvi said in his first paragraph above. But now that I think more about it, there could be a household of true equals getting along (in someone’s dreams.)

Yeah, I retracted my comment on your comment.

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FlowerPower  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:00:07pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

I’m absolutely cringing imagining how that call went.

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:00:58pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI is whining that Cruz “stole” all the delegates in CO using stupid things called “rules”

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All I can think of when I see this picture of Cruz is Elmer Gantry

(except for the fact that Burt Lancaster was a very handsome man, and Cruz is one of the creepiest people I’ve ever seen.)

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:01:23pm

re: #64 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I retracted my comment on your comment.

I got to try the comment-refresh button! Thanks!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:02:54pm

How an internet mapping glitch turned a random Kansas farm into a digital hell

But IP mapping isn’t an exact science. At its most precise, an IP address can be mapped to a house. (You can try to map your own IP address here.) At its least precise, it can be mapped only to a country. In order to deal with that imprecision, MaxMind decided to set default locations at the city, state and country level for when it knows only roughly where the IP address lives. If it knows only that an IP address is somewhere in the U.S., and can’t figure out anything more about where it is, it will point to the center of the country.

As any geography nerd knows, the precise center of the United States is in northern Kansas, near the Nebraska border. Technically, the latitudinal and longitudinal coordinates of the center spot are 39°50′N 98°35′W. In digital maps, that number is an ugly one: 39.8333333,-98.585522. So back in 2002, when MaxMind was first choosing the default point on its digital map for the center of the U.S., it decided to clean up the measurements and go with a simpler, nearby latitude and longitude: 38°N 97°W or 38.0000,-97.0000.

As a result, for the last 14 years, every time MaxMind’s database has been queried about the location of an IP address in the United States it can’t identify, it has spit out the default location of a spot two hours away from the geographic center of the country. This happens a lot: 5,000 companies rely on MaxMind’s IP mapping information, and in all, there are now over 600 million IP addresses associated with that default coordinate. If any of those IP addresses are used by a scammer, or a computer thief, or a suicidal person contacting a help line, MaxMind’s database places them at the same spot: 38.0000,-97.0000.

Which happens to be in the front yard of Joyce Taylor’s house.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:03:28pm

re: #66 BeachDem

All I can think of when I see this picture of Cruz is Elmer Gantry

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(except for the fact that Burt Lancaster was a very handsome man, and Cruz is one of the creepiest people I’ve ever seen.)

Yeah, that mushy face and the insincere smiles that never seem to reach his eyes…
*shudder, gag*

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FlowerPower  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:03:44pm

re: #53 CuriousLurker

I’m still trying to figure out why any man would want more than one wife in the first place. It’s hard enough just to get along with one spouse.

I can’t imagine being willing to share a husband. It takes all of our combined energies to run our single household and maintain a relationship. Why would I want to make that harder for myself?

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:03:52pm

OK, enough human relations. I go work on bikes.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:05:20pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

I got to try the comment-refresh button! Thanks!

I’ve used it a lot, mostly for the private/spoiler tags. It’s much better than having to reload the entire page.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:08:26pm

I don’t think this will help them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:09:34pm

They are demanding that NY primaries be open:

According to an Eventbrite description of the protest: “We are demanding that the parties open up New York’s undemocratic Presidential Primary election, which prohibits 3.2 million people from casting a vote on Tuesday.”

A Facebook event for the protest is here. It’s also a press event. Some early sources incorrectly stated this was a hearing on the issue. This is a protest/event to bring attention to the problem.

According to the group running the protest, Open Primaries: “We are not likely to get anything done for this election, but if we make a firm stand, maybe we can make this the last election where 3.2 million voters are disenfranchised. Assemblyman Fred Thiele is attending, and he’s introduced legislation in the State Legislature to open the presidential primary.”

Pretty sure it doesn’t work that way.

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Franklin  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:09:44pm

re: #73 jaunte

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I don’t think this will help them.

Super D’s for me but not for thee.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:12:34pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

According to an Eventbrite description of the protest: “We are demanding that the parties open up New York’s undemocratic Presidential Primary election, which prohibits 3.2 million people from casting a vote on Tuesday.”

Or, you know, people could register by political party.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:13:48pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Assemblyman Fred Thiele is attending, and he’s introduced legislation in the State Legislature to open the presidential primary.”

Once a bill is introduced in one house of the legislature, it automatically passes and its provisions become law immediately.

//

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:13:52pm

It’s not a government election. It’s a primary.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:13:56pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

“WE ARE DEMANDI…”

*click*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:14:09pm

Government dictating to political parties how parties should operate.

What could go wrong?

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:14:33pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They are demanding that NY primaries be open:

Pretty sure it doesn’t work that way.

It’s pretty simple: If you wanted to vote for Bernie in the NY primary, then you needed to do like he did and join the DNC in order to vote. If you couldn’t be bothered to do that, why should we believe you’ll be bothered to show up on Election Day?

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:15:21pm

re: #70 FlowerPower

I can’t imagine being willing to share a husband. It takes all of our combined energies to run our single household and maintain a relationship. Why would I want to make that harder for myself?

I’ve known (American) Muslim women (converts) who were second wives and seemed content & well cared for if not entirely “happy.” Concerns over their legal status and the status of their children seemed to be of much greater concern to them than “sharing” their husband with another woman.

Nonetheless, as I said, the ones I knew were the second wives not the first, so its entirely possible that the first wives didn’t like it one bit.

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withak  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:15:41pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

It’s pretty simple: If you wanted to vote for Bernie in the NY primary, then you needed to do like he did and join the DNC in order to vote. If you couldn’t be bothered to do that, why should we believe you’ll be bothered to show up on Election Day?

These people disenfranchised themselves, and have no one else to blame, but that won’t stop them.

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Jack Burton  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:18:39pm

re: #78 Testy Toad T

It’s not a government election. It’s a primary.

BernieBros don’t “get” a lot of things about how this all works. This is one of those things.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:18:44pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Open Primaries, because why shouldn’t a rival political party be able to screw with your primary?

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:19:05pm

re: #56 Dave In Austin

Yeah, And????!

No offense. I fished a lot when I was younger and I have a cousin who was a pro.

He was so into fishing, it cost him his marriage (to a girl I dated a bit back in high school… my first big date to the homecoming dance as a high school freshman. I called her when I was in college to ask her out after my big breakup with my first real love. She told me she was getting married to my freaking cousin. Talk about uncomfortable! And I knew it wouldn’t work out…he was an ass. Such is life. Sigh)

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:22:19pm

Awwww…

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Ming5000  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:22:35pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

So, you use the comment refresh button after you edit your own, or when someone says they have edited theirs? What’s the story?

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:22:52pm

re: #83 withak

These people disenfranchised themselves, and have no one else to blame, but that won’t stop them.

It’s part of the reason I feel that after this nomination process ends in Philly, the DNC should move to an all-closed-primary system. The process should be for those who have something invested in the party, who take the time to support the party and advance its cause. There is nothing legally binding dudebros to vote for the party nominee, so the only thing getting in their way is their own refusal to support the party despite their insistence that they have a voice in who it will nominate.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:23:35pm

re: #66 BeachDem

All I can think of when I see this picture of Cruz is Elmer Gantry

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(except for the fact that Burt Lancaster was a very handsome man, and Cruz is one of the creepiest people I’ve ever seen.)

If the GOP didn’t so richly deserve it, I might feel sorry for them that their choice for President has boiled down to either Trump or Cruz.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:24:44pm
Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, suggested this past week that Sanders will contest the Democratic nomination at the convention in July even if Hillary wins the nomination before that date.

Talking to CNN, Weaver suggested that if Hillary doesn’t win the nomination with pledged delegates alone — the delegates you win in the state primaries and caucuses — Sanders will effectively declare a civil war at the Democrat convention this summer.

When asked about this plan to disrupt the Democratic convention, Sanders refused to repudiate the idea.

So now the Sanders campaign is saying they’ll continue fighting even if they’ve lost the pledged delegate race, the popular vote and the total number of contests. They’re just acting like spoiled children threatening to throw a public tantrum unless Mommy gives them what they want.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:25:00pm

re: #73 jaunte

I don’t think this will help them.

Unless he wins NY, there’s really not much of a chance for him to get close on pledged delegates anyway.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:26:26pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

It’s part of the reason I feel that after this nomination process ends in Philly, the DNC should move to an all-closed-primary system. The process should be for those who have something invested in the party, who take the time to support the party and advance its cause. There is nothing legally binding dudebros to vote for the party nominee, so the only thing getting in their way is their own refusal to support the party despite their insistence that they have a voice in who it will nominate.

Yeah but now we’re interested and we want to vote and stuff and so WERE DEMANDING OPEN PRIMARY THEN WELL GO BACK TO WHATEVER WE WERE DOING BEFORE WHEN THE COUNTRY WAS GOING TO PIECES!!!!

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:26:31pm

re: #88 Ming5000

So, you use the comment refresh button after you edit your own, or when someone says they have edited theirs? What’s the story?

She’s already gone to work on bikes.

Yes, you use it for either one, or if you’ve clicked on a private/spoiler message to view it and want to toggle it back to its hidden state. As I said in my #72, it beats the hell out of having to reload the entire page.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:29:32pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

It’s part of the reason I feel that after this nomination process ends in Philly, the DNC should move to an all-closed-primary system.

I think increased voter participation is intrinsically good for a party. I do not think increased voter turnout is necessarily good.

A more-than-zero barrier to entry is maybe an okay thing.

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Targetpractice  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:29:36pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

So now the Sanders campaign is saying they’ll continue fighting even if they’ve lost the pledged delegate race, the popular vote and the total number of contests. They’re just acting like spoiled children threatening to throw a public tantrum unless Mommy gives them what they want.

Who is in charge of this campaign anymore? It sure doesn’t seem like Bernie, because Weaver keeps making statements like this and Bernie does nothing to repudiate him. Doesn’t really inspire confidence for a Sanders presidency, that the potential Chief of Staff is the guy who’s giving the marching orders.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:29:53pm

Is there any legal limit for how many times someone can run for President?

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:30:28pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

So now the Sanders campaign is saying they’ll continue fighting even if they’ve lost the pledged delegate race, the popular vote and the total number of contests. They’re just acting like spoiled children threatening to throw a public tantrum unless Mommy gives them what they want.

This is the guy who said he was going to run a respectful campaign.

So we now see the Real Bernie Sanders. He is an ass.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:30:41pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

Not that I know of.

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FlowerPower  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:31:32pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

So now the Sanders campaign is saying they’ll continue fighting even if they’ve lost the pledged delegate race, the popular vote and the total number of contests. They’re just acting like spoiled children threatening to throw a public tantrum unless Mommy gives them what they want.

It’d be one thing if he was a lifelong Dem working to make it more efficient, but now he’s just storming in demanding everything change RIGHT NAO *whinewhinelipquiverfootstomp*!

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:31:54pm

re: #96 Targetpractice

Who is in charge of this campaign anymore? It sure doesn’t seem like Bernie, because Weaver keeps making statements like this and Bernie does nothing to repudiate him. Doesn’t really inspire confidence for a Sanders presidency, that the potential Chief of Staff is the guy who’s giving the marching orders.

Sanders is a figurehead for his campaign. He’s not really actually a candidate for President in any useful sense.

I don’t know if it’s an energy thing, or an out-of-touch thing, or an I-wasn’t-really-that-serious thing, or what.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:32:51pm

Flickr

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danarchy  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:34:47pm

re: #78 Testy Toad T

It’s not a government election. It’s a primary.

I kind of wonder if we would be better off without the whole primary process. Let the parties just decide a nominee at their conventions and then have an election. I know on paper it feels like it would reduce the power of the electorate, but I think the whole extended primary thing serves to entrench the two main parties and makes any 3rd party seem like an afterthought.

Also if election coverage didn’t start until the conventions about 6 months before we vote that would be just fine by me.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:35:22pm

Turns out there are several different types of embedding codes used by Flickr. We now support more of them.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:36:36pm

Flickr

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:36:37pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there any legal limit for how many times someone can run for President?

I’d say check with Harold Stassen, but he passed away in 2001.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:37:16pm

The best part of the Sanders campaigns promise to contest the convention if Hillary doesn’t get a supermajority of pledged delegates and saying superdelegates don’t count at all is that they can then only win by trying to get the superdelegates to undo the people’s will. It’s a flagrantly and inherently hypocritical position possessing no internal logic whatsoever. They spent the first half of the campaign saying supers were undemocratic, then they started courting supers as they fell behind hoping to make up the difference by flipping them to get over the threshold, and now they’re saying they don’t count at all and they’re going to just throw a shit fit even if they’re behind by 16% in the pledged delegate count. Due to the way the race is structure that also means they’d be even further than 16% behind in the popular vote.

They’ve literally gone from saying the system is undemocratic to saying fuck democracy.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:39:46pm

re: #103 danarchy

I kind of wonder if we would be better off without the whole primary process.

You would win some and you would lose some, I think. We wouldn’t ever face the horrific prospect of Candidate Cruz/Trump, but neither would we have had Clinton in 1992 or Obama in 2008.

I think it’s generally better to keep the primary framework, but I would certainly like to see the IA/NH thing die a swift death. Same with caucuses.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:40:58pm

re: #92 Belafon

Unless he wins NY, there’s really not much of a chance for him to get close on pledged delegates anyway.

Correction: If Bernie merely wins NY, there still isn’t much of a chance for him to get close on pledged delegates. He has to win by a landslide margin. Since he’s actually way behind and NY has a closed primary, there isn’t a chance in Hell of that happening.

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:41:31pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

It’s part of the reason I feel that after this nomination process ends in Philly, the DNC should move to an all-closed-primary system. The process should be for those who have something invested in the party, who take the time to support the party and advance its cause. There is nothing legally binding dudebros to vote for the party nominee, so the only thing getting in their way is their own refusal to support the party despite their insistence that they have a voice in who it will nominate.

I totally agree. A sports analogy:

I am an American League fan—one team in particular. If my team doesn’t make it to the World Series, I will generally root for the American League team that does. But I don’t want any other AL teams (or dog forbid, NL teams) setting my starting lineup in the playoffs.

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Jack Burton  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:42:23pm

re: #109 Big Beautiful Door

Correction: If Bernie merely wins NY, there still isn’t much of a chance for him to get close on pledged delegates. He has to win by a landslide margin. Since he’s actually way behind and NY has a closed primary, there isn’t a chance in Hell of that happening.

Every time he’s done surprisingly well, it’s been an open or semi/quasi/wtf-open primary.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:42:47pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there any legal limit for how many times someone can run for President?

Only if you’ve already won twice, or won once and served at least half of someone else’s term.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:43:09pm

re: #103 danarchy

I kind of wonder if we would be better off without the whole primary process. Let the parties just decide a nominee at their conventions and then have an election. I know on paper it feels like it would reduce the power of the electorate, but I think the whole extended primary thing serves to entrench the two main parties and makes any 3rd party seem like an afterthought.

Also if election coverage didn’t start until the conventions about 6 months before we vote that would be just fine by me.

Official state-run primaries also create the illusion that political parties are governmental entities…

WHICH. THEY. ARE. NOT!!!

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:43:25pm

re: #32 The Vicious Babushka

He was in “The Children of the Corn”

Creeper

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:43:28pm

Could we really see TWO contested conventions in a single election year?

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:43:57pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

Could we really see TWO contest conventions in a single election year?

No. Next question.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:43:58pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

Could we really see TWO contest conventions in a single election year?

I’d be shocked. A lot of the future primaries don’t favor Bernie.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:44:55pm

re: #103 danarchy

I kind of wonder if we would be better off without the whole primary process. Let the parties just decide a nominee at their conventions and then have an election. I know on paper it feels like it would reduce the power of the electorate, but I think the whole extended primary thing serves to entrench the two main parties and makes any 3rd party seem like an afterthought.

Also if election coverage didn’t start until the conventions about 6 months before we vote that would be just fine by me.

Third parties were an afterthought long before the extended primary system. The way to break the two party power duopoly is through proportional representation in Congress instead of a pure district system.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:45:04pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

I’d be shocked. A lot of the future primaries don’t favor Bernie.

They don’t but at this rate he and his supporters are going to raise quite a ruckus at the convention.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:45:17pm

Bernie’s campaign didn’t even try to educate his supporters that they needed to be registered Dem by the deadline to vote in the Dem primary, now his supporters are trying to change NY election rules at the last minute. Smell the desperation.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:47:38pm

re: #115 Eclectic Cyborg

Could we really see TWO contested conventions in a single election year?

A few people carrying signs at the Democratic convention would be held up as a complete breakdown of law and order. Pitched gun battles at the Republican convention would get a yawn.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:47:38pm

re: #118 Big Beautiful Door

Third parties were an afterthought long before the extended primary system. The way to break the two party power duopoly is through proportional representation in Congress instead of a pure district system.

That would be a step in the necessary direction, but I don’t think a presidential system will ever really accommodate a serious third party. You need the parliamentary mechanism by which a coalition is often required to select the head of government.

Who’s ever going to self-identify as a green or a teaist or whatever when they know they never have a realistic shot at the presidency?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:47:57pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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withak  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:48:12pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

Bernie’s campaign didn’t even try to educate his supporters that they needed to be registered Dem by the deadline to vote in the Dem primary, now his supporters are trying to change NY election rules at the last minute. Smell the desperation.

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It really makes me wonder if — at least on Twitter — there aren’t a lot of shenanigans going on in Bernistan.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:48:32pm

re: #123 GlutenFreeJesus

Poe’s Law in action.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:50:32pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

They don’t but at this rate he and his supporters are going to raise quite a ruckus at the convention.

I doubt it. Clinton was still fighting at this time. I kind of view his statement about fighting as red meat to his supporters: Of course we’ll fight if she doesn’t win the pledged delegate count, but with two people in the race, the only way she’ll not win the delegate count is if we win or tie.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:50:49pm

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

The best part of the Sanders campaigns promise to contest the convention if Hillary doesn’t get a supermajority of pledged delegates and saying superdelegates don’t count at all is that they can then only win by trying to get the superdelegates to undo the people’s will. It’s a flagrantly and inherently hypocritical position possessing no internal logic whatsoever. They spent the first half of the campaign saying supers were undemocratic, then they started courting supers as they fell behind hoping to make up the difference by flipping them to get over the threshold, and now they’re saying they don’t count at all and they’re going to just throw a shit fit even if they’re behind by 16% in the pledged delegate count. Due to the way the race is structure that also means they’d be even further than 16% behind in the popular vote.

They’ve literally gone from saying the system is undemocratic to saying fuck democracy.

Hey, he IS an independent. And he sure is acting like one.

I liked Bernie. Now, I hope the people in the remaining primary states are paying attention and getting sick of his crap and the voting really goes against him. he deserves it at this point. He is showing he is capable of bullshitting people and changing things on the fly dependent on his moods. Not good presidential material.

Actually, he is disqualifying himself for office.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:52:35pm

re: #122 Testy Toad T

That would be a step in the necessary direction, but I don’t think a presidential system will ever really accommodate a serious third party. You need the parliamentary mechanism by which a coalition is often required to select the head of government.

Who’s ever going to self-identify as a green or a teaist or whatever when they know they never have a realistic shot at the presidency?

However, let’s say that thanks to proportional representation, two or three new parties become serious players on the American political scene. For the sake of argument, lets call them the Libertarians and the Greens. Maybe in some states they even supplant the GOP and the Democrats as the largest party, and people no longer feel their vote is wasted if they vote third party. Suddenly it becomes a lot harder to get 270 electoral votes, and a lot more presidential elections get decided by Congress between the top three candidates the way the Founders intended. That will be very similar to the way parliamentary political systems work.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:52:39pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

As each day goes by, he’s proving that he isn’t qualified to be President.

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BTW. Hardcore Henry… the movie… was awesome.

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withak  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:53:45pm

re: #129 GlutenFreeJesus

As each day goes by, he’s proving that he isn’t qualified to be President.

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BTW. Hardcore Henry… the movie… was awesome.

Any motion sickness? Just from the trailers I got a bit woozy from the first-person view.

It’s weird, but I can play FPS video games all day long, but put that giant screen in front of me and it plays funny tricks on my brain.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:55:12pm

re: #130 withak

Any motion sickness? Just from the trailers I got a bit woozy from the first-person view.

It’s weird, but I can play FPS video games all day long, but put that giant screen in front of me and it plays funny tricks on my brain.

I puked after watching the Blair Witch Project with all that jerky, hand-held camera work.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:55:44pm

re: #130 withak

Me and my buddy were ok. And we sat pretty close. 45 minutes later and I haven’t refunded any popcorn yet. :)

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withak  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:56:57pm

re: #131 Big Beautiful Door

I puked after watching the Blair Witch Project with all that jerky, hand-held camera work.

Same here, and this reminded me of BWP.

I sat in the front row for that piece of crap and had to leave the theater several times.

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Kragar  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:57:25pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:57:32pm

re: #122 Testy Toad T

Who’s ever going to self-identify as a green or a teaist or whatever when they know they never have a realistic shot at the presidency?

The late Barry Commoner. At least he had a great name for the position.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:57:32pm

Gnarly regular expression of the day.

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b.d.  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:58:04pm

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

Bernie’s campaign didn’t even try to educate his supporters …..

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Sandbaggers get all of the information they need.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:58:48pm

re: #133 withak

Same here, and this reminded me of BWP.

I sat in the front row for that piece of crap and had to leave the theater several times.

You kept going back!?

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 12:59:31pm

re: #137 b.d.

Sandbaggers get all of the information they need.

Do I want to know what #DemocracySpring is?

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:01:57pm

re: #124 withak

It really makes me wonder if — at least on Twitter — there aren’t a lot of shenanigans going on in Bernistan.

TBH, I think a good portion of the shit-stirrers may very well be right-wingers who’re trying to sow enough dissension among Dems to hobble them, with the hope that they can improve the odds for whichever shuffling abomination manages to survive the GOP dumpster fire and slither on over to the general.

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Kragar  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:02:16pm

re: #139 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

No. You really don’t.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:03:20pm

re: #137 b.d.

Sandbaggers get all of the information they need.

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On a fundamental level, I don’t “get” Sanders as an inspirational figure. I never have.

I completely grokked “Yes we can” in 2008. I saw hope, I saw coalition-building, I saw somebody who just exuded confidence that he could bring us together to make this country a better place.

And then look at the iconography that the fervent Bernie supporters embrace. Sanders has never seemed to me like anything more than an insightful grumpy old man who, in the immortal words of Mr. Costanza, has got a lot of problems with this country! And now you’re gonna hear about them!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:05:54pm

re: #142 Testy Toad T

On a fundamental level, I don’t “get” Sanders as an inspirational figure. I never have.

I completely grokked “Yes we can” in 2008. I saw hope, I saw coalition-building, I saw somebody who just exuded confidence that he could bring us together to make this country a better place.

And then look at the iconography that the fervent Bernie supporters embrace. Sanders has never seemed to me like anything more than an insightful grumpy old man who, in the immortal words of Mr. Costanza, has got a lot of problems with this country! And now you’re gonna hear about them!

He’s got a good Congressional voting record but he hasn’t shown me since I started paying attention that he’s presidential material.

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Testy Toad T  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:06:03pm

re: #140 CuriousLurker

TBH, I think a good portion of the shit-stirrers may very well be right-wingers who’re trying to sow enough dissension among Dems to hobble them, with the hope that they can improve the odds for whichever shuffling abomination manages to survive the GOP dumpster fire and slither on over to the general.

I think a lot of them may very well be people who traditionally vote Republican, but actually do find that Sanders’ ranting and railing about Wall Street resonates with them.

Which, hey, maybe that can be his contribution to the cause this cycle. Make some Republicans understand that their party fucking sucks out loud, and at least open their eyes a little bit to the possibility that they might want to support a Democrat in the future.

(Hillary Clinton is probably irrevocably stained in their eyes due to decades of FUD, but this is about 2020 or 2024)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:06:35pm

Apropos of nothing other than the mention (and actual photo) of Cthulhu in the last thread…

Thanks, Doctor Lizardo!

The greatest anagram in the history of forever:

“Howard Phillips Lovecraft” <==> “Tall Chap for Devil Worship”

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:06:46pm

re: #140 CuriousLurker

TBH, I think a good portion of the shit-stirrers may very well be right-wingers who’re trying to sow enough dissension among Dems to hobble them, with the hope that they can improve the odds for whichever shuffling abomination manages to survive the GOP dumpster fire and slither on over to the general.

…although the people that Bernie has running his own campaign have been pretty dramatic shit-stirrers. Hard to blame that on outsiders (although there’s no doubt that rat-screwers are out there).

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b.d.  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:06:53pm

re: #139 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Do I want to know what #DemocracySpring is?

No

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Jack Burton  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:07:50pm

To paraphrase Dennis Green…

Bernie Sanders is who we thought he was.

It should be apparent to anyone who isn’t a Bernie Kool Aid drinker that he really just is this:

and always has been.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:08:33pm

re: #148 Jack Burton

To paraphrase Dennis Green…

Bernie Sanders is who we thought he was.

It should be apparent to anyone who isn’t a Bernie Kool Aid drinker that he really just is this:

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and always has been.

It does come off that way and that’s coming from someone who agrees with a lot of his gripes.

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Danack  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:09:03pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

Assemblyman Fred Thiele is attending, and he’s introduced legislation in the State Legislature to open the presidential primary.

Frederick W. Thiele, Jr. (born August 8, 1953) is the Assembly member for the 1st District of the New York Assembly. He is an Independent. The district includes East Hampton, Shelter Island, Southampton and portions of Brookhaven in Suffolk County. He is a member of the Independence Party of New York, after switching from the Republican Party in October 2009.

Yeah. Thanks but no.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:09:22pm

I just think so many lefty supporters of Sanders are just seeing the voting record and not that the guy has showed little the apst 6-9 months that suggests that he’s someone you want as Presdent.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:10:35pm

I’m also unimpressed that Bernie has so little legislation passed to his name. I remember I felt the same way about Paul Ryan when Paul Ryan Was touted as a police wonk after being picked as Romney’s running mate.

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CuriousLurker  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:10:40pm

re: #146 stpaulbear

…although the people that Bernie has running his own campaign have been pretty dramatic shit-stirrers. Hard to blame that on outsiders (although there’s no doubt that rat-screwers are out there).

True. For someone who claimed he didn’t want to run an ugly campaign he sure hired the wrong people. It doesn’t exactly inspire my confidence in his ability to run the entire government (though I’d still vote for him over any of the Republicans).

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Jack Burton  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:10:42pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

It does come off that way and that’s coming from someone who agrees with a lot of his gripes.

I agree with most of his gripes more or less, but that doesn’t make an angry old kook with an ideological purity complex and no realistic plans to implement any of his solutions a good idea for President.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:11:46pm

re: #154 Jack Burton

I agree with most of his gripes more or less, but that doesn’t make an angry old kook with an ideological purity complex and no realistic plans to implement any of his solutions a good idea for President.

Agreed. He’s not presidential material and he definitely does have an ideological purity complex which is a terrible trait to have in a president.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:12:50pm

re: #153 CuriousLurker

True. For someone who claimed he didn’t want to run an ugly campaign he sure hired the wrong people. It doesn’t exactly inspire my confidence in his ability to run the entire government (though I’d still vote for him over any of the Republicans).

I think that’s what bugs me. This whole narrative that Bernie isn’t negative or doesn’t get dirty. That’s bullshit. I’m sorry Bernie diehards but your candidate is part of the same system that you despise Clinton for being a part of.

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withak  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:16:24pm

re: #138 Big Beautiful Door

You kept going back!?

I misread your first post as “nearly puked.” I never actually did, but I came close, and with all the buzz about how great that movie was, I kept going back in to wait for a payoff that never materialized.

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withak  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:20:36pm

re: #148 Jack Burton

To paraphrase Dennis Green…

Bernie Sanders is who we thought he was.

It should be apparent to anyone who isn’t a Bernie Kool Aid drinker that he really just is this:

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and always has been.

You wanna crown their ass, then crown ‘em!

One of the most epic rants in NFL history, and oh so fitting.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:20:54pm

re: #157 withak

I misread your first post as “nearly puked.” I never actually did, but I came close, and with all the buzz about how great that movie was, I kept going back in to wait for a payoff that never materialized.

I watched it at home with my wife and sister after it came out on video. I thought the concept was interesting, and the wrap up had an interesting twist, but it was really for people who cannot separate the movies from what’s going on around them. I looked suddenly a couple of times during the movie and it freaked my wife and sister out.

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Khal Wimpo (not-so-Super Tuesday's Child)  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:22:39pm

(h/t to Thanos, for his page linking to the Salon article on how the right-wing hate machine has destroyed the GOP)

These are some of the most insightful paragraphs written on the core messaging of right-wing media outlets:

The messaging consists of common themes that recur in various forms. One central theme is a fierce opposition to government, especially so-called “big government.” This reappears in various sub-forms as well, such as rage against bureaucracy, regulations, Washington, D.C., the IRS, the Environmental Protection Agency, and federal politicians.

Another big theme is fear and victimization. You had better watch out because government is gonna getcha! “They,” whoever that may be, are about to take away your rights. Your freedom is about to disappear. Your religious liberties will be stripped away. You won’t be able to make your own healthcare decisions. Free choice will be gone. Your children will suffer. Even though you are just an innocent person minding your own business, you are about to be victimized!

Another common theme is the fear of foreigners, or outsiders. We must protect our own in-group from the vague and mysterious threats posed by those who are a little bit different from us. The particular targeted group changes with the times, but the concept remains the same.

And, of course, someone from the Democratic Party, or some “liberal,” is to blame for all of this wreckage. Demonizing a specific target is powerful. If a Democrat is in the White House, then the president becomes the favorite bullseye. Otherwise the demon is some other Democratic politician, typically from Congress.

Simple-minded people need a recognizable Devil. The truth, that there are systemic problems that need complex, time-consuming solutions, just hits them like wharrrrgarrble faggyspeak in Idiocracy. Good guys and bad guys. White hats and black hats. Us vs. them. It’s worked for nearly 40 years, and the payoffs are tremendous.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:24:06pm

re: #150 Danack

Yeah. Independents can run their “primary” however they want. He’s not a Dem, so he doesn’t get to decide for them.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:26:14pm

re: #147 b.d.

No

it just sounded eerily like that RWNJ, Operation American Spring from a few years ago.

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:42:09pm

re: #29 Kragar

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Is that really true? I thought they were more often from Virginia.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:48:21pm

re: #163 sagehen

Is that really true? I thought they were more often from Virginia.

“Per capita”. Fewer people in Vermont.

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:49:25pm

re: #52 FlowerPower

This. Marriage laws are based on everyone having one spouse; same-sex marriage didn’t affect those in the slightest. OTOH, poly-marriages would require throwing them all out and starting from scratch.

Poly-marriages would lead to the wealthiest men (mostly older men) having all the wives, and younger single men exploding in violence.

Actual true stat: the best predictor of a nation/culture’s violence (criminal and/or political) is what percentage of the population is single men under 30. That’s why fundamentalist muslim nations need either vicious repression or wars that kill a lot of men, and why China decided to start allowing 2-child families.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2016 • 1:51:34pm

re: #148 Jack Burton

To paraphrase Dennis Green…

Bernie Sanders is who we thought he was.

It should be apparent to anyone who isn’t a Bernie Kool Aid drinker that he really just is this:

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and always has been.

Heh…did this on Friday.

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sagehen  Apr 11, 2016 • 2:08:03pm

re: #128 Big Beautiful Door

However, let’s say that thanks to proportional representation, two or three new parties become serious players on the American political scene. For the sake of argument, lets call them the Libertarians and the Greens. Maybe in some states they even supplant the GOP and the Democrats as the largest party, and people no longer feel their vote is wasted if they vote third party. Suddenly it becomes a lot harder to get 270 electoral votes, and a lot more presidential elections get decided by Congress between the top three candidates the way the Founders intended. That will be very similar to the way parliamentary political systems work.

Or a multiple choice system — as many parties as want to can field candidates, you vote for your first choice, second choice, third choice, etc. If nobody pulls a majority (which would be frequent), then everybody who voted for the candidate who came in last has their ballots re-examined and assigned to their second choice. Still no majority, last place of who’s left gets their ballots reassigned. Do this as many time as it takes until somebody gets more than 50%.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 11, 2016 • 3:31:28pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

Non taken. I fish like a fool and wife promotes it. Therefore I am blessed.

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Shimshon  Apr 11, 2016 • 6:10:55pm

Nothing says Alpha Male like going around online telling everyone you’re an Alpha Male.


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